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16

They did the same thing for IQ tests btw.
/r/MensRights29/07/26 07:29 AM
30

The alignment team is meant to keep the company legally and politically safe by tuning to model to say things that are least risky today. Otherwise, if the model trained purely on data, it is less likely to have this much bias. Simply put, it trains the model towards current normative behaviors.
/r/MensRights26/07/26 02:29 AM
5

Can we just give them the entire country for a few weeks, then wrap up the conclusion so these arguments are empirically dismantled in a few weeks and society can finally move forward?
/r/MensRights25/07/26 05:35 AM
2

That is true, in fact research indicates that DV sole perpetrators are 70% women using the CTS, but the only possible self defence for a man is walking away (assuming it is possible), not fighting back physically.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 05:03 PM
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I'm saying that might be the best option at the moment even if it is unfair. So perhaps the teaching is not too bad even if it shouldn't have to be that way.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 04:52 PM
1

Yes, but also self-defence laws is rarely used, only about 3-5% of cases ever get to tell the truth in a jury trial, and even then, the system still manages to convict innocent people.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 09:07 AM
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It is true that it is gendered, but actually, women are now more diagnosed than men in NPD as well.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:24 AM
8

BPD isn't it? According to Kernberg, BPD are failed NPD, practically all BPD have narsarsistic traits, and 40% of them meet the full diagnosis for an NPD.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:01 AM
66

Abusers rarely look like devils, they often look like desperate infants that cling onto you dearly and absolutely.
/r/MensRights24/07/26 04:56 AM
3

This might be borderline personality disorder.
/r/MensRights23/07/26 02:20 PM
1

Yep, also Wilson was losing, and he needed an effective rhetoric.
/r/MensRights22/07/26 08:53 PM
21

I didn't know these were emotionally intelligent, and intelligent behavior, I have a lot to learn.
/r/MensRights22/07/26 03:59 AM
6

When is there going the be accountability for the false accuser day.
/r/MensRights21/07/26 04:48 AM
137

Correction. Female domestic abuse occur at a higher rate than men.
/r/MensRights20/07/26 11:45 PM
10

Yes Woodrow Wilson. It's a misconception that victors often rewrite history, more accurately it is the successors of victors whom often rewrite history, the victors rarely try to hide it. For example, Lincoln abolished slavery only to save the Union, later framed as something he morally stood by. Here are some quotes: First excerpt: My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I wou…
/r/MensRights17/07/26 10:12 PM
12

Of course politician will talk about that, it is an effective rhetoric. Wilson, anti-women, literally tortured them by the chain of command, changed views conveniently when his party was desperate and losing, and gave women rights, which at the time, many women didn't actually want.
/r/MensRights17/07/26 09:40 PM
11

A projection. Hence why it is often the insecure who will use such language.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 09:51 PM
2

Some caveats on your second point. What you are stating is indeed the mainstream narrative, similar to the popular false narrative that the egg "chooses" the sperm, women actually engage in more mate competition than men on a daily basis based on empirical researches and structural brain scans that suggests optimization for mate attraction and competition.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 07:41 AM
7

What is truly the definition of masculinity? That term have been distorted over time, what was it before, and why it is important more than ever to correct the injustice of this mislabeling.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 07:38 AM
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That's just sad, how did she even get married, we should start raising standards than to lower them and accommodate for such malicious acts.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 07:31 AM
2

I didn't down vote, you gotta stop arbitrarily falsely allege the worse.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 03:49 AM
21

If patriarchy truly existed, feminism shouldn't ever be possible in the first place.
/r/MensRights15/07/26 09:30 PM
7

Male Underreporting: Weiss, K. G. (2010). Too ashamed to report: Deconstructing the shame of sexual victimization. Feminist Criminology, 5(3), 286-310. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085110376343 Finding: Only 15% of sexual assaults against men are reported, compared to approximately 30% for women. Drijber, B. C., Reijnders, U. J. L., & Ceelen, M. (2013). Male victims of domestic violence. Journal of Family Violence, 28(2), 173-178. Finding: Less than 32% of 372 male DV victims approached police; o…
/r/MensRights15/07/26 08:42 PM
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Note that this data did not account for how many men are likely to underreport, how many women are likely to make false reports, and the structural efforts to dismiss men in researches like these. Even with all that, it is pretty much equivalent, which suggests the number for men is likely much higher, and women lower.
/r/MensRights15/07/26 05:12 AM
14

There should be an aggregation of people who comment like this so people know whom to avoid dating or even hiring lol.
/r/MensRights15/07/26 05:09 AM
20

We've recognized the burden what women have had with laws, and now look what they've done with our recognition.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:49 PM
20

Saying? No, they encode them in laws.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:26 PM
18

Straus documentation of oppression is getting out of hand.
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:24 PM
10

Your independence threatens their independence, because their independence relies on your admiration of their independence.
/r/MensRights13/07/26 06:49 PM
5

Not become, has been. In literature and plays in the past, women beating their husband has always been framed as a joke because it is so common.
/r/MensRights13/07/26 06:47 PM
3

Call the cops, that is clearly grounds for a DV charge (should double check with your laws) if you record it as well.
/r/MensRights13/07/26 06:40 PM
3

Its not about winning against the feminist, it is about winning the hearts of people governed by feminist until the feminists become irrelevant.
/r/MensRights13/07/26 01:19 AM
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The bar for what is called a theory is so low nowadays.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 06:45 PM
1

You don't have to be sobbing and balling your eyes out to be a victim. You can successfully overwhelm the abuser and still be a victim. You do not need to be weak to be a victim.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 06:29 PM
9

Damn, maybe witches really are real. No wonder.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 06:27 PM
3

Emotional Intellegence does not measure intellegence, it measure agreeabiliy, this EQ thing had already been disproven by psychologist.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 06:26 PM
2

What women accuse men of, are what women often are, and what women praise themselves of, are what men often are.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 01:29 PM
3

What if the commenter is just writing in third person.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 01:23 PM
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Aren't they already?
/r/MensRights08/07/26 03:24 AM
7

NPD is a subset of the Cluster B disorder, and Cluster B disorder emerges from the lack of self. According to Kernberg theory BPD are failed NPD, practically all BPD have narcissistic traits, and 40% of them meet the full clinical diagnosis for an NPD. Most BPD diagnosed are currently women, and the psychiatric community is trying to sanitize this disorder by victimizing it using feminist theories. Despite this attempt to sanitize, the measuring tool for disorders have improved, and women are no…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 04:25 PM
3

To offend a strong man, tell him a lie. To offend a weak man, tell him the truth.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 07:02 AM
8

If we think in terms of politics, the dynamic you are describing makes sense.
/r/MensRights03/07/26 07:44 AM
7

Yes, men are absolutely progressing away from this bs of injustice, and rightfully so.
/r/MensRights28/06/26 05:21 PM
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They are important, but not as important as the decision to make something of it. Without power, an idea will simply remain an idea, no matter how brilliant, no matter how right, and no matter how truthful.
/r/MensRights28/06/26 04:58 AM
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The sky is blue ahh.
/r/MensRights27/06/26 12:42 PM
3

Why do they just keep proving the philosophers and psychologist they deny right.
/r/MensRights26/06/26 03:32 AM
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Yes, but also note that they didn't account for the stats that single women or women whom remarry are more likely to take anti-depressents. So take significant and multiply 1.4 or something. You also need to account that women often lie is self reports, so that is also another conflation.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:43 PM
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This is the time to use the he is bigger argument to say that if she was truly self defending, she couldn't have killed him because he is bigger and "stronger"; so he could not have been abused.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 06:58 PM
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Its a stupid argument, and encourages both sides to be manipulative.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 06:56 PM
1

Is it not so much more satisfying, to rise with your own courage than to be forcibly held up on a pedestal. Yes it is not fair, and it needs to change, but there is still something in there to strive for in this current moment.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 07:20 PM
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Again not true. I think what you are speaking strictly here is a value perspective, not a need. You are sort of asking me if you need to quit smoking to be happy. There are more downsides to keep smoking, that doesn't mean you need to quit to be happy, that is a value question. It is much easier for a man to have casual relationships without dissatisfaction than a women. So if you ask me, should women have long term committed relationship to maximize the probability of satisfaction? The answer i…
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:42 PM
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That is a good question, and the answer is no, they do not need committed relationships, that is why hate was also in the equation, it gives similar benefits, but much more unstable. It is somewhat bad long term depending on what one values. The receptors gets desensitised overtime, and women also often time dislike that dynamic, despite it being promoted by mainstream media.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:32 PM
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That is not what I am saying. That is what the neuroscience shows.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:20 PM
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I would also have to disagree. I've rarely seen a women's peace unrelated to either hating a man, or loving him. Whereas throughout history, a man had not needed a women, they may or may not want one. It is beneficial to market women as not needing a man. They are profitable, radical, and inspiring lies. Neuroscience says the opposite of self reports. Imagine if men were instead marketed as not needing women. What do you think would happen? No sides gets the benefit, and outrage would likely occ…
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:07 PM
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Just how insecure must they be, to attack a word that isn't theirs.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:02 PM
3

Business as usual
/r/MensRights23/06/26 09:11 PM
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"Where there is neither love nor hatred in the game, women’s play is mediocre” - Nietzsche
/r/MensRights23/06/26 08:25 PM
5

Personally, the phrase is not what is infuriating, the inconsistency is. It would be better for them to choose, whether they want to be a child or an adult, so accountability, laws, expectations, policy, etc. are applied accordingly, and less convoluted.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 09:00 PM
5

Not so surprising. Research shows that oxytocin, the bonding hormone often makes women anxious in relationships, which results in controlling behavior as thus.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 08:57 PM
4

Great post, and a great reminder, that the chair you are sitting on, and the house you are living under, is made by a man. Cheers to you!
/r/MensRights21/06/26 05:26 AM
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Take care of yourself kiddo.
/r/MensRights21/06/26 05:24 AM
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I would rather have 1m, and the false accuser in jail for 30. At this point, we should call them for what they are: abusers.
/r/MensRights21/06/26 01:09 AM
1

Notice how this pattern, is almost exactly the same as the "you don't love me anymore" argument within relationships. Seems innocent, but the abuse is deadly.
/r/MensRights20/06/26 01:07 AM
3

If only their sexism was at least logically consistent.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 06:52 PM
6

At this point, I am not so sure if men care too much about being cared as much as they care about the truth being understood.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 09:18 AM
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"Poets are shameless with their experiences: they exploit them." - Nietzsche
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:20 AM
13

Stay strong and composed. I wish you well through this experience. Not all of ethics are legalized, and some unethical things are still legal and reinforced.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:10 AM
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Yeah, its confusing, they keep treating women and children in the same category as if they both are the same, and yet say that women are as capable as a man and not a child. Agency just seems to be conveniently taken away or instantiated whenever it suits them.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 04:17 AM
2

women are the most likely to have a low threshold to impulse in slapping or hitting, whereas it takes a lot to goad a man to express violence against women but when he reaches breaking point, it's more physically violent. Great observation. This is completely supported by neuroscience. Women's brains reduce regulatory effort under provocation. Men's brains increase it (Repple et al., 2018, Brain Structure and Function, fMRI, N=42). Oxytocin reduces reactive aggression in men by lowering their se…
/r/MensRights18/06/26 07:19 PM
2

I think we would win by losing. If we push the logic that is being used to the extreme, and carry on with it, I doubt it would ever sustain a civilization, and they will probably start asking for help all over again, politicians and businesses would certainly seize that opportunity.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:57 PM
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The philosophers have warned us centuries ago. Neuroscience is catching up to what the philosophers already found, but are too afraid to make a causal chain.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:53 PM
7

You aren't blaming anything. You are identifying a problem that exists and is not properly addressed due to the discomforts of the truth.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:13 AM
3

That is actually what the research shows. You got that correct. Although it may seem that society is doing for women, we are actually increasingly exploiting them.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 06:08 AM
7

The answer to that is that it isn't. It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong; and if you get benefits from the government wrongs why not continue?
/r/MensRights17/06/26 11:29 PM
14

Even if we give them god like powers to have anything they want, I'm not so sure I can imagine these people satisfied and to blame no external. There are women whom are grateful and appreciative for the everyday, and they are very pleasant and kind to be around. People whom are great leaders, empathetic, moved on, independent, etc. don't feel the need to go around declaring it to everyone that they are what they say, they just do it.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 01:02 AM
4

According to your definition of pathetic, you are indeed pathetic. Testosterone has already been debunked in research that it does not correlate with aggression. In fact, it correlates with prosocial behavior (Eisenegger et al., 2010). Furthermore women often harm men, not the other way around, more than 70% of sole perpetrators are women, these are cases where men do not fight back at all (Whitaker, 2007). Some explanations may be because women and men have different relationship to the bonding…
/r/MensRights16/06/26 12:24 AM
5

#killallmen sure is empathetic huh. You might be mixing pathetic with empathetic.
/r/MensRights15/06/26 09:37 PM
9

Gentlemen, I introduce to you, the so called angels we speak of that needs protecting.
/r/MensRights09/06/26 04:51 AM
11

It means I want to do everything the Duluth Models says about control and power and project it onto you by creating a framework for it when accountability is warranted.
/r/MensRights09/06/26 04:49 AM
14

The confidence of their inadequacy is stunning. Psychologists would certainly find them amusing to study.
/r/MensRights08/06/26 08:51 AM
11

I mean they did say it was societal constructs that is limiting them, what better way than for them to build one from scratch themselves however they want on mars. p.s. you're probably right tbh, they'll blame me for giving them freedom too.
/r/MensRights07/06/26 08:01 AM
19

Can we send them to mars yet where they can blame no one else but themselves.
/r/MensRights07/06/26 04:16 AM
6

I'd second this beyond the personal experience of this gentlemen or lady. There is data supporting the opposite of the typical narrative. So it is not that men don't have to think about it; it is that men don't think about it, or at the very least, men's concerns are not advertisable.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 04:09 AM
4

Nowadays, when the internet plays you cheap engaging rhetoric for what each word means, each word is not carefully understood of its meaning. People instead quickly pattern match a script to a scenario of a story they've adopted of themselves, without ever having read the book that they are suppose to write for themselves, and of others that are already written.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 03:00 AM
11

Support people, not categories, not theories of people, not the concepts, not the politics, just the person.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 02:02 AM
1

Time for a monarchy.
/r/MensRights05/06/26 01:36 AM
1

Don't read it literally lmao
/r/MensRights04/06/26 03:54 PM
6

Don't read it literally lmao
/r/MensRights04/06/26 03:53 PM
4

"Strike the monster while it is still a monster. Once you understand its pain, your hand will begin to weaken." - Nietzsche.
/r/MensRights04/06/26 04:20 AM
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"The slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown." - Albert Camus.
/r/MensRights04/06/26 04:17 AM
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And when they finally depleted the trust and resources of men. Where will they look—the past? The past won't be unlearned.
/r/MensRights04/06/26 03:31 AM
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Don't disturb them. They are in the process of believing their own lies. It is very delicate and fragile.
/r/MensRights03/06/26 08:26 PM
11

It's only getting worse. The Alignment team for RLHF, well... "Alignment" with what...
/r/MensRights03/06/26 04:31 PM
2

I find what you said unpleasant...You must be speaking the truth!
/r/MensRights03/06/26 04:27 PM
1

Depends. Do you find people with disorders funny?
/r/MensRights02/06/26 04:05 PM
2

Rise in Cluster B personality disorder.
/r/MensRights02/06/26 03:43 PM
3

Typically these words were well defined, but nowadays words tend to be twisted. Tantrums for example, are now called emotional regulation. It's bad, especially when the person using the word does not know its meaning, but the person listening does, which is why we built an entire institution on it. Just didn't know it was poetry.
/r/MensRights02/06/26 06:27 AM
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I doubt it is what caused, more like it made the implicit explicit.
/r/MensRights02/06/26 05:39 AM
3

"A man becomes honorable when suffering gives him every excuse to fall, and he still chooses to stand." - Seneca.
/r/MensRights01/06/26 11:01 AM
1

Its an aggregate of numerous sources to make the synthesis, but here are some. link1, link2. Note that the way it is written is very diplomatic, so the truth is very sneaky and lies within a few sentences only. For example "The Nazi authorities believed that a correlation existed between marital loyalty (of the woman) and the morale and fighting spirit of the husband, and therefore put a high premium on the social control of soldiers’ wives." Note that since it is a synthesis, the number I gave …
/r/MensRights01/06/26 12:33 AM
1

It's a great point, it is effective in the short term, it isn't really in the long term. Germany did something similar, then later found out about half of the women committed infidelity (self-reported, meaning half were willing to admit to it, not that only half did it) while the men were out to war. They desperately tried to hide this data to avoid the uncomfortable truth that may effect the morale of people.
/r/MensRights31/05/26 10:04 PM
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The more feminism progresses, the more it sounds like a sophisticated "you don't love me anymore" argument within relationships.
/r/MensRights31/05/26 06:46 PM
5

Then we shall become they, and protect him.
/r/MensRights31/05/26 05:47 PM
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If only Socrates were still here and given access to social media.
/r/MensRights31/05/26 10:35 AM
7

Yh, there is also a contradiction in that statement. Problem employees men, yet most technically gifted, and progressed their career quicker also men doesn't seem right. Considering the research that found women have a 4.5x stronger in group bias than men, I highly doubt the statement is true (Rudman & Goodwin, 2004). They might be moving out of the company for other reasons (i.e. you) considering how you view them (which effects how you treat them) despite their talent. I believe feminist would…
/r/MensRights30/05/26 11:50 PM
10

I would probably do that too if I was the owner. I'd trust the men to do the work, and to not get easily startled and sue the company for reasons I wouldn't be able to predict.
/r/MensRights30/05/26 06:57 PM
7

Phenomenal.
/r/MensRights30/05/26 07:50 AM
8

"You want me to think? The thing that killed Socrates?" /s
/r/MensRights29/05/26 07:30 PM
5

Reasoning by putting feelings first and unexamined narrative above all is not a civil discussion. It becomes a battle of boring sentiments full of poetry and unearned semantics, and oh do politicians love boring sentiments, for they are so easily exploited.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 08:36 AM
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"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you." - Nietzsche.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 07:20 AM
1

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you." - Nietzsche.
/r/MensRights27/05/26 04:29 AM
8

Because a man does not say I have trauma. Instead he says "If you are going through hell, keep going" - Churchill. And this principle is for anyone, not for a particular group, and so it unites everyone, not just someone.
/r/MensRights24/05/26 07:48 PM
4

Not just about the type of men, but rather the effect of their behaviors on normal individuals like anger, frustration, etc. which is normal when encountered with certain treatment. So yeah, having the ability to understand cause and effect (accountability).
/r/MensRights24/05/26 12:24 AM
1

But if everything is effectively a moral framework, then can you say that morality exists?
/r/MensRights23/05/26 08:24 AM
1

That's very well said. I'm very new to the terms and theories you've brought up so I did not know I had seemed to hold a position nor had aligned with an existing coherent framework. I definitely wouldn't say I am anti-democratic, after looking that up. I would certainly say, it is important to know all of the means that has prevented or will prevent democracy from effectively functioning, and avoid it being exploited. Just because I believe morality does not exist does not mean I encourage immo…
/r/MensRights23/05/26 06:54 AM
1

I agree with you, there is no conspiracy, it is simply pragmatism at its best. Never said that there were any conspiracy. Reality doesn't always need a narrative, the one you are trying to impose right now to avoid psychological discomfort from the unpredictability of nature.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 09:05 PM
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No, it is because they are tools, that you see the constraints of the tools. What you are saying here is also something I agree with. I think we might be differing in our focuses than actually disagreeing with each other. Specifically what it means for morals to exist in politics. As rhetoric, it is as clear as day that moral is present, but as a principle that is governed only by rationality is what I am saying does not exist. We both agree that morality is instrumentalised in politics, and we …
/r/MensRights22/05/26 08:44 PM
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Women's rights were not given because of justice, or that they were seen as capable as men sadly—I wished it was. It was given because it was the most effective political maneuver considering the post climatic environment of WWI. And we see how eager they are now to cover up trails, i.e. bomb threats to Erin Presley, data suppression in research studies, cherry picking stats and events in journalism; desperate to keep the narrative going.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 07:48 PM
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Nietzsche: "In revenge and in love woman is more barbarous."
/r/MensRights22/05/26 06:41 AM
7

Its the difference between emotional regulation, and emotional dysregulation.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 08:06 PM
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Yep, as well as the execution of Socrates.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 07:17 PM
1

You are right, and I agree with you, there are morals in politics, but they are tools, not a means to an end. They are used to sway, persuade, and justify so many things, the definition itself is so fluid it looses its meaning. And you've mentioned we cannot view the World War II without grasping the ideological climate of the period. Which I also agree, but for what reason is that is? Are ideals taught because that what it is? Or are ideals taught later so that it is easier to control the frame…
/r/MensRights21/05/26 06:38 PM
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Women are often easier to politically exploit. Men are easier to politically scapegoat. History has shown that women had been rhetorically used as symbols or catalyst of war, to justify the killing of other men, by portraying them unjust and cruel to women. So "for the sake of safety" we must take this land. Hypocrisy implies morals; there are no morals in politics, only pragmatism.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 01:08 AM
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ikr, it is almost as though it is beneficial politically, and financially to keep solving the symptoms rather than the root cause of the problem. i.e. women vote more, often purchase more consumer goods, why not blame silent men whom will absorb the damage; keep women insecure by painting men as the villain and the world as dangerous, then accommodate them, gain votes, dependency to narrative, and maintain cash flow, than to deal with an abstract concept called "justice".
/r/MensRights18/05/26 11:40 PM
7

Yh, DAs are often elected, making their very existence inherently political, contradicting their duty to "do justice".
/r/MensRights18/05/26 04:59 AM
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If I recall, there was a study documenting women were more likely to use weapons, contradicting the narrative that their damage is often not substantial. Furthermore, Whitaker et al. (2007) showed that women were the sole perpetrators in 70.7% of cases. Men were the sole perpetrators in 29.3% of the cases. On flawed research, yeah, they use biased samples, cherry pick data, and statistical hacking such as p-hacking, and unwilling to share their actual data.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 04:53 AM
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Welp, we still very much judge the book by its cover.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 01:50 AM
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Look up Murray Straus, Donald Dutton, Erin Pizzey, etc. And look at how the scientific community responded to their findings. Suppression of data, and unethical behaviors.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 05:00 AM
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