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| 1 | Women have problems. Men are problems.Women aren't always the victim, that's the point, toxic masculinity hurts men too. And internalised misogyny is explicitly not giving women the moral high ground, but exposes the ways in which women contribute to a social system that hurts other women, and ultimately themselves. And of course this analytical framework doesn't explain everything that happens all the time, just broad social attitudes, just as OPs examples tried to capture. There are always plenty of exceptions and deviations. And … | /r/MensRights | 15/09/24 11:58 PM |
| 0 | Women have problems. Men are problems.So was the first wave when they asked for the equal right to vote a hideous fraud about hating men? How about the second wave where they asked to have the equal right to employment, fair pay and conditions? What about the third wave where they asked for sexual liberation, to not be subject to violence, maternity pay, and reproductive rights? What about the fourth wave, where they are still somehow asking not to be discriminated against in the workplace,have their reproductive rights taken away, … | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 11:11 AM |
| -1 | Women have problems. Men are problems.This is a terrible argument, internalized misogynistic statements are negative about self, and others of the same gender. Meanwhile toxic masculinity does have some negative externalities, such as how stoicism can cause men to neglect their emotions, but supports male power and notions of superiority. Like in your example you cite "I should be submissive" as an example of internalized misogyny and "I should be in charge" as an example of toxic masculinity, which I agree with. But those statement… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 11:00 AM |
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