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Pretty simple, men can change any/all of this but choose not to because men are by in large lazy and low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:43 PM
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All data suggests that redpill tactics are detrimental to long term relationships and most of the claims are just made up pop psychology. There are also thousands of posts and comments online of women lamenting that their boyfriends have gone down the 'redpill' pipeline and they now want to leave the relationship. Even divorce lawyers are starting to see divorces that started with the relationship becoming strained after the man starting getting into redpill content. Self improvement works for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:36 PM
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Yes, couldn't find one there either. Mostly reformed sluts in their late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:47 AM
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Hence the manosphere has ruined dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:17 AM
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20-30
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:15 AM
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Ages of what men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:28 AM
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No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc) Pretty much all men fail at the first hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:01 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:38 AM
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This is nonsense, I've never even met a man who can meet my criteria and it's not even that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:18 AM
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Do I give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:42 AM
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Autist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:29 AM
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Not needing to follow a social script when interacting with other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:22 AM
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Being normal and treating women like individual people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:09 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:12 AM
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Yeah and I was even told this. LOL i love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:14 AM
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No but I'm pretty sure I've done this to every guy I've dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:59 AM
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Women somehow manage to do both but men can't even though it's so easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:02 PM
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Men do not benefit from doing “easy” things. Which is the mentality all over. You shouldn't do it because you 'benefit', you should do your fair share because well, it's FAIR.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:38 PM
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Because it's immeasurable, just like his. Therefore, she should get nothing? The same ways that men take advantage of them. Which is to say it's either manipulation, force, or neither side is taking advantage and it's a fair trade. That's not an answer and my point is no it isn't a fair trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:30 PM
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If his wife will charge him to take care of his children, then she will be the same as their nanny. He would pay whoever he felt did the best job. Her contribution is being recognised and paid for, why is that SO deeply unreasonable? Welcome to the 21st century, take a gander around. Yes and women stopped being housewives precisely due to this reason. Men like and are attracted to women and are stupid and naive enough to think that their partner won't take advantage of them. Please explain how h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:23 AM
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Then if it's so easy, why don't men actually do it more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:22 AM
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What equality? When what benefits me? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:30 AM
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So supervise multiple children of multiple ages while cooking, cleaning and doing everything else simultaneously?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:14 AM
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He missed out on years of being single, having his own freedom, time and hobbies and sleeping around though. So did she? And how is it a poor deal? When in the history of the earth has any being other than women been able to just not work? If you think it's a poor deal maybe don't do it? I have no intention of doing it ever and judging by the birth rates, most women agree. And she is working, just inside the home for free instead of outside of it for money. And so what if he cheats? Men are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:13 AM
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I can tell you don't have kids. The idea women at home with multiple children have time to sit and waste time watching TV shows is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:51 AM
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How is she living a 'posh life' she has basic accommodation, food and bills paid for. her to continued dividends when she chooses to end it. What if she doesn't end it? What if he cheats? Why would women choose such a poor deal? Why arent men entitled to continue having their house cleaned and their knobs slobbed for all that alimony? Because you didn't lose out on years of career progression and money
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:44 AM
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Again, that doesn't negate the point in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:39 AM
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Men want children on average as much or more than women do. If a man has a stay at home wife that is 'lazy and entitled' then maybe he should tell her to go back to work and they should split housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:34 AM
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Every single year a woman was at home not working, she was losing out on salary, pension, savings, etc. Alimony is to acknowledge that contribution. It doesn't make her an indentured servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:33 AM
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Household workers get dismissal rights, a pension, a salary, holidays, sick days. They also get experience which they can carry to their next employer. You're making the case even stronger, housewives get treated like garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:30 AM
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Presumably the same thing that the man would feed and clothe himself with. A man who has building his career for years and years? Obviously with his salary. She won't have a salary if she's been at home looking after the kids. For childcare and household labor, they would go with nannies and maids. A man would rather pay an entire fleet of staff than just pay his own wife and the mother of those children? Men really hate the idea of giving their partner money that much? My point was that the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:53 AM
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So she'll feed and clothe herself with what? Good feelings? If you want to pretend that men and women are equal, then you have to treat them equally. If men would know the upfront cost of marriage, they would likely never get married, or instead choose to go with prostitutes. If men knew that women actually expect to be compensated for all the childcare and household labor they do, they'd go with prostitutes instead? That's a pretty incredible argument. If a woman should be compensated for poten…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:38 AM
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then the children will themselves reward the adults who invested in them. So if a woman gives up her career to look after her children and support her husband, the payout she should get is essentially gratitude and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:13 AM
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Out of wedlock? What are you talking about? That wasn't even mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:00 PM
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Again, how does this actually address the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:04 PM
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What has commitment got to do with this? I never said anything about commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:11 PM
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How does that relate to anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:05 PM
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No, we really don't. Stop projecting what men are impressed by onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:24 AM
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LOL no we absolutely fucking don't. Talking utter shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:21 AM
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Well women can make all these points about men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:19 AM
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That wasn't the argument. If HE left after I asked for sex, would it still be his fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:03 AM
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You can’t always predict somebody changing, but it’s fairly easy to predict whether a man is going to be a deadbeat or not How? Married men turning into deadbeats and abandoning their children is rare. Most deadbeats stems from casual encounters and short term relationships Based on? It should be obvious, but the chances of a man who invested years into the relationship, bought you a ring, planned for the kid and is enthusiastic about the whole experience is far more likely to be involved than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:57 PM
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So the person who will propose the sex What since ultimately the sex only happens with the agreement not with the search for it. So if I seek out sex from a man, and he agrees but then abandons me, it's his fault for agreeing to the sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:48 PM
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It’s the nature of the process we are talking about Literally how? Your ideology is so bizarre and contradictory. According to you: If I date a man and 3 years into the relationship, he cheats on me, somehow it was my fault for 'choosing him' (implying I had some kind of prior knowledge he would cheat? or ability to find out easily?) And yet since men should have supreme authority over women's lives, it's men's fault for allowing women to freely choose who they date? Is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:47 PM
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But their individuals actions can be automatically offloaded because 'a woman chose them' ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:22 PM
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Are men responsible for anything in your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:38 PM
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… the single mothers CHOSE those uninvolved men. No one forced them to pick those particular men. They chose them because they valued their superficial and surface level traits over properly vetting them for character and values. You can't just get to know someone and predict their behaviour until the end of time. It's not a case of good/bad either. Some people can have a lot of good traits but struggle with responsibility and parenting. Doesn't make those people evil, it just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:37 PM
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Hanging out with? Sure. Dating? Nope. No over 30s for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:31 AM
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Well I've met a lot of men who just expect me to 'forgive' their hoe phase in their early 20s because it 'doesn't mean anything' A lot of the redpillers are hypocrites because they support hook up culture, they're just angry they often don't get to participate because no one wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:06 PM
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Your comment had nothing to do with what I said, zero. I ask again, were you responding to the correct comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:23 AM
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Did you respond to the correct comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:06 AM
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If I wanted to be around older men, I'd seek them out on dating apps or IRL. I don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:08 AM
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And they actually do have an attraction for older looks Are you attracted to older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:36 AM
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Nope, younger men are just more attractive and appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:35 AM
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Not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:35 AM
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Because older men never stop bringing it up. I'd spend 0% of my time even acknowledging old men if they just fucked off and accepted that their attention and advances are unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:32 AM
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Oh no I find sluts disgusting and I feel no shame saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:46 AM
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The stats are the best reflection of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:23 AM
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I'm a scientist, you've no idea how much you're barking up the wrong tree with this one pal. Every single man when I send a study responds with 'but muh 3 friends are different so is not truuu'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:59 AM
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I think it's best not to date anymore. Personally if I had the choice to go back, I never would've dated at all and focused on building platonic community instead. I don't see a way forward with the manosphere, it's just too widespread at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:44 AM
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Literally anything but just acknowledging this as true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:30 AM
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I'm not arguing about the value of women's work. Women work both inside and outside the home and it's exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:06 AM
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Please stop gooning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:38 PM
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This is just weird now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:13 PM
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Well whatever, as long as I can walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:09 PM
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Then so is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:03 PM
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He's into me beating the shit out of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:55 PM
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In every relationship I've been in I've both earned more and done more in the house. Every man seemed to think it was normal and acceptable too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:10 PM
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We do what’s necessary without making it our entire reason for existence. So do women. My lunch took 30 seconds to make today. Again if it's so easy, why aren't men doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:02 PM
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If it's so easy, why don't men do it more?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:52 PM
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Most household labour isn't option- Cooking, admin, childcare, cleaning and tidying to at least a basic standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:47 PM
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It's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:33 PM
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Not wanting to live in a roach infested shithole is due to differences in brain wiring?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:32 PM
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make the majority of physically demanding/dangerous jobs How does this relate to anything I've said?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:29 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:28 PM
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Yes it is true. Women do more household labour regardless of who is working and earning. men still largely out earn their female counterparts? Do woman really go 50/50 on all spending? Not as much as you'd think and a huge % of women are now breadwinners in their families. Plus working has benefits: More pay, pension, health benefits. Working at home has none. If not, then they found themselves a more traditional woman and then it’s not such a bad deal for men Working and doing all the work at h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:27 PM
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It's literally the opposite. Women and men now both work. And women are still doing most of the household labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:17 PM
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Why am I arguing over word meanings? I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:52 AM
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Autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:14 PM
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Yes, but it's not a sexual behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:13 PM
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Well no, it's more of a sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:43 PM
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Lack of emotional affect, crew members noticing her habits while filming her latest documentary, hyper-sexuality, lacking conventional expressions of emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:28 AM
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There's some clear evidence that she is, stop getting so emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:25 AM
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And yet, autistic people are also far more likely to be asexual as well. And? She's a hypersexual one. It’s less a “clear link” and more the fact that you’re scrutinizing autism and autistic people for a piece of data many people in and out of the spectrum have. Scrutinising autism...by pointing out a fact? but then this doesn’t mean there is a “clear link”, it just means that autistic people are more likely to fall on an extreme than the normal population You're arguing against a point I never …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:19 AM
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Because she is an autist and there's a clear link between autism and hypersexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:11 AM
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She's a creepy hypersexual autist, that's it. Most women are nothing like her and can't relate to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:05 AM
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nerdy computer programmer virgin This guy because if he tried to attack me I could probably win on VO2 max and muscle mass differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:03 AM
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It's logical of him to lie and make me angrier? Can you see how not wanting to be a doormat can lead someone to the red pill tho? No, I've had weak boundaries before but that has never ended in me abusing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:17 AM
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It honestly should kill your attraction if he makes it known that he's a red piller. lol He insisted he wasn't one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:03 AM
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how would you even know? How would I know what? That he was doing this? this demonstrates precisely why RP is not for women in the least and they cannot speak on it. Not for me how? I can't speak on an abusive tactic used on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:52 PM
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One of the major tenets of RP is not getting turned into a beta bux by women and being the alpha guy they want to fuck. This is so beyond stupid I don't even know how to respond to it. RP philosophy almost entirely revolves around not being a doormat and making sure your partner is actually attracted to you and advocating for your own sexual needs. It destroyed my acctraction to him completely....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:51 PM
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Dread game is emotional abuse, my ex tried it on me because he was insecure. Went from planning on getting married to never speaking to him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:34 PM
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It means exactly what I said. Men who are in happy and healthy relationships don’t need to find the red pill because many of the dynamics are already inherent to the relationship they are in Men can be insecure at let that insecurity get to them. Men typically only search for the red pill when shit is going wrong in their relationships/dating lives. Otherwise, they wouldn’t give a shit. Again, if things aren't going right in the relationship, how is emotionally abusing the woman going to help th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:46 PM
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They either already know or haven’t gotten there yet (maybe a natural). Wtf does this mean If women are concerned about their dude finding the redpill, don’t give him a reason to go looking for it. Lol so I somehow CAUSED my ex to try and emotionally manipulate me with RP tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:27 PM
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..... a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:22 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38629700/ "Sexism (hostile or benevolent) was linked with unstable, low‑commitment behaviors"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:02 PM
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Men who like and respect women less are more likely to have casual sex because they see women as disposable and things to use. Men who don't think like this are more likely to stay in a relationship with one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:56 PM
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My ex didn't go redpill because he 'didn't want to be a doormat' Red pill was just an easy option to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:45 PM
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That's not really the conclusion that you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:44 PM
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Well no, why should we reward horrible and abusive behaviour by becoming doormats?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:33 PM
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Which studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:27 PM
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Well no because even though they're bullshit, they can ruin good and happy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:26 PM
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'failed relationships and choices' Women can't control how men behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:45 PM
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You guys do that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:48 AM
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Love you for that hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:41 AM
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I've been doing this since like age 16.... Should've been putting 'leader' on my resumé....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:55 AM
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....leader? For what? Leader: Always responsible, does things without being asked to, excels at his job, holds you to your promises, plans things out thoroughly, never needs to be reminded to do anything This is just basic self sufficiency?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:40 AM
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'it's pretty obvious' it's proof of anything. Men always blame women when relationships don't work out, regardless of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:26 AM
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'Furthermore, evidence suggests that men are typically more predisposed to an avoidant attachment style' Especially a source that adjusts for the fact that women want avoidant men, so avoidant men are more likely to be in a relationship in the first place. No we certainly don't want avoidant men and by definition avoidant men are less likely to be in a relationships because they fear intimacy lol, are you just making shit up now or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:16 PM
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I never said any of that or claimed to be part of any ideology or anti ideology. Also didn't know I had a choice between 'feminist' or 'Anti feminist MRA' why do you think that women's rejection of equality is not going to backfire? I can't answer a question where you've already inferred an opinion and painted it as true, that's just dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:02 PM
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it's heading to men rejecting gender equality Ok, they can do what they like. unlike you obviously) And that's based on? and instead increasingly supporting guys like Tate. And it's probably going to get worse than Tate. Ok, if you want to follow and send your money to a chinless criminal I don't give a fuck. I'll just be single and making money lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:27 PM
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You use avoidant behaviour on an anxious person, you may well get results. This does not mean what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:25 PM
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Is there a study on this? Or just your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:24 PM
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'Literally seeing it work' isn't evidence. It's just your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:22 PM
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No TRP is making the claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:21 PM
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He wasn't 'new to TRP' He also didn't make dread game 'so fucking obvious' I didn't even realise what he was doing at first, but I just felt myself lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:21 PM
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Being friends with someone is faking interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:11 PM
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Based on...? I don't think you're going to like where this is heading. Where is this heading?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:57 PM
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There is no actual evidence behind these claims, that's the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:52 PM
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Men are much more likely to be avoidant in relationships compared to women but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:48 PM
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red pill has answers for them. Answer being lies and abuse tactics so they can feel in control. I guess it revolves around you and yours then? I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:44 PM
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If he lied and told her he wanted a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:41 PM
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Er men do this to women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:34 PM
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We really are monsters lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:33 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:31 PM
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So have I and yeah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:27 PM
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Yeah and literally not even my friend who is a model gets meals paid for by her friends, that would be extremely weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:10 PM
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Those bitter resentful fuckers deserve all the hate they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:07 PM
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Yeah exactly this is the weirdest claim ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:02 PM
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Pretty sure that's not true, just some podcast nonsense that you've lapped up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:59 PM
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false. I've both been the guy who takes a woman to dinner only to have her say she's calling it an evening and I've also been the guy to get the call after some poor guy has taken her out to dinner and she wants to come over for sex. It's better to be the second guy.\ This is an personal anecdote, this has no basis in reality or the general population. The world doesn't revolve around you and your feelings. Dishonest. When a woman tells a guy she's not looking to date and that you can still hang…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:53 PM
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Dual mating strategy isn't real and friend zoning is you thinking giving any woman attention means you're owed sex. You aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:47 PM
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No evidence of RP tactics actually working. They make the claim, burden of proof is on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:40 PM
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Can't wait to hear: I HAV BIG DIK AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEYYYY
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:34 PM
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Results being more and more women checking out of dating and focusing on other things instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:24 PM
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Plenty of women have relationships with men and then end them after their boyfriend 'goes redpill' so this doesn't track. There are articles popping up about this constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:54 PM
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It just exposes female dating tactics. Being more informed prevents men from being abused by these tactics. What 'abusive tactics' are women using en masse?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:41 PM
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"Unless men are good little boys who sit still in their chairs and raise their hands to speak then they won't get what they want. How hard is that to understand?" No one said this, complete victim complex reframing. That's what this is. We don't believe it. Watch what women do, not what they say. Ok, if you watch what women do: - More men than women now want to get married - More men than women want to date - Most women don't want to remarry after divorcing/being widowed (and most don't) - More …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:40 PM
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Yeah echo chamber mixed with victim mentality mixed with entitlement and social media is a toxic combination here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:33 PM
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Because more and more men are listening to the manosphere and taking what they say seriously, with pretty disastrous consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:32 PM
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Because in our society, being a man is about meeting standards. All of them. You have to look a certain way, act a certain way, earn a certain amount, restrict your emotions, never ask for help, etc. etc. Ah yes because society expects literally none of these things from women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:25 PM
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You making unsubstantiated claims based on your 'feelings' just isn't evidence, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:05 PM
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Its the fact womans aproval and arousal are different things. And you get laid a lot more by being redpill, altho backfires in ltr. No, just no. You claiming something is true doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:03 PM
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Your feelings aren't reality no matter how much you believe them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:01 PM
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Yeah but a lot of women respond well to toxicity, so it works in some cases. Like theres a whole lot of dudes that bag way more women after being more nasty. This is just confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:59 PM
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Yeah 'it's so true idk' isn't really an argument lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:58 PM
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Are red pill manisphere bros inventing things which arent rooted in reality This one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:53 PM
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I actually think there is some form of 'male intrasexual competition' going on with the manosphere/TRP. There seem to be two 'types' of red pill men. The first are the complete undatables (Men with severe personality disorders, neurodivergence, very physically unattractive/handicapped, etc) who struggle for obvious reasons. These guys have usually never been in a relationship or none long term and have little to no interest from women. Then the second group are the 'burned' guys who have had rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:53 PM
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The entire thread is about male disposability, not generic labor value. Er no? OPs post was about the force doctrine, not male disposability. Gender is central because the system extracts service from men while treating their deaths as expected. The system (assuming you live in the West) is capitalism and it does this to everyone. It also doesn't 'extract' services, you aren't forced to work in the trades. You’re pretending your white-collar job gives you insight into this structure, when all yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:21 PM
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Now you’re mistaking your ability to spectate for relevance. I'm really not. This is a confession. You admit the system depends on men, yet frame their disposability as proof of your autonomy. That's not how capitalism works. What it actually reveals is a parasitic wish to entrap the very men who maintain infrastructure, tech, logistics, and defense into continued service, while you discredit, mock, and pathologize them into silence. No, gender has nothing to do with this. I work in a scientific…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:08 PM
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But the overwhelming majority of people who maintain physical infrastructure, energy grids, industrial systems, and national defense are still male. And? They are maintained by risk-tolerant, outcome-oriented men. When they stop operating the trade, the grid, or your lifestyle, there will be nothing left for you to moderate. This is the stupidest take I think I've ever read. These men do the job they do because they get paid, not because they're 'happy' or 'unhappy' with women. They also have fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:56 PM
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Most men aren't redpillers, a minority of bitter internet spergs and genetic trash aren't really a threat. critical infrastructure will continue to weaken until men won't need to reverse your rights. Thanks to entropy, your lights will go out automatically. LOL most manosphere men aren't working blue collar jobs and have some kind of monopoly on the trades lmao You guys do make me laugh at time though, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:42 PM
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How are you not getting this, could this be any more obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:33 AM
1

I think perhaps you need to read my original comment: > being promiscous makes you good at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:03 AM
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Based on what? Where is the logic at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:52 PM
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How is having different partners going to assist with this? You're making no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:49 PM
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I'm sorry what Are you trying to say being promiscous makes you good at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:04 PM
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Most women give men advice based on what they like and what would work on them. This has certainly been true in my case. I gave my ex advice about women, he used that advice with me, it worked. But then he started using manosphere advice and I told him I was no longer interested. So I'd say between advice from other men and women, taking advice from women is much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:04 PM
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This fails to consider that infidelity is one of the most common reasons for divorce. a huge % of gay men are in open marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:49 AM
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Does it? Sounds like you've been reading a fair bit. And no, I don't think it's 'poisonous to women's brains' just because you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:08 PM
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The focus is romance, not just pure hedonistic sex I presume. Again, they don't destroy the brain like high speed internet porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:38 PM
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You literally just ignored half the points I made in my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:58 PM
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No I don't read romance books but even if I did, they don't have the same impact on the brain as porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:25 PM
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Hell, even I’m probably “overweight or obese” and I lift 3x a week and squat 405. You know that's obviously not what it means. It’s hard to use those metrics on individuals. It’s great to measure society, not so much individual people. Nope, it works on individuals too actually. And it’s one thing for guys to “regularly watch porn”, it’s another for it to be an addiction. I don’t have a problem with the standard, but a lot of the times they’ll stop when they fit into a relationship I don't care,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:24 PM
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Most men in the West are overweight or obese, 30% of men have a favourable view of Andrew Tate, and most men regularly watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:59 PM
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No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc) Pretty much all men fail at least one of these, so it's a non starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:42 PM
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I don't think I'd be able to find one that met my standards so, never?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:48 AM
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NO no and NO. That's an easy way to get used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:56 PM
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Not really. Closest I ever did to this was to turn down a 'red pill' man who was trying to use 'dread game' to make me chase him. I told him since he was such a prize, he should go for women who 'deserve' him and will give him the princess treatment he wants, never spoke to him again after this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:49 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/new-research-finds-a-sexual-double-standard-against-male-but-not-female-promiscuity/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:18 PM
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Men value purity in women in a way women broadly don't value it in men. Completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:25 AM
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I hear the same shit from high body count men. They just don't like feeling excluded from someones dating pool because of their past behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:24 AM
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Let's say society gets to the point where they put men in cages and women come to choose them as breeding stock. I'm sorry what
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:40 AM
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'They don't want a sugar daddy, they want a man in control of his finances' You realise, you said the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:26 PM
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Yes YES Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:19 AM
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Those aren't boundaries, that's not what that word means. "Rates of failure" in relationships aren't high because women have male friends or post revealing pictures online. There is however, a much higher rate of failure in relationships where one or both partners has an attachment style that isn't secure. If my partner posted shirtless pictures online, I wouldn't consider that "disrespect".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:52 PM
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Most women aren't going to mind if you do these things. If you consider these things an awful violation of the relationship, then don't be in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:34 PM
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but it’s reasonable for people to have standards of behavior for their partners. That’s not controlling, it’s demanding respect. Sure, but most women aren't going to go for men with these 'standards of behaviour'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:25 PM
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She can post revealing photos on Instagram for validation from hundreds of other men. ^^ 'Revealing' is different to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:29 PM
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You said this: "By labelling a man's natural, protective setting of boundaries as "toxic,"" Right after you made the points about her having male friends and posting pictures online. So why do those things make you feel "protective"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:06 PM
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I am aware I likely have an anxious attachment style And this is where your feelings are likely coming from. I don't have an anxious attachment style and I have never or will never care if my partner has female friends, or talks to his exes, or posts pictures of himself online. I don't experience any of the 'heart racing, lump in the throat' feeling that people describe when they talk about being jealous, it just doesn't impact me at all. Even if your partner did none of those things, you will f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:04 PM
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Why would you feel the need to 'protect' your partner from her friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:58 PM
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But studies have shown the chances of romantic feelings existing between two friends who are possible romantic partners is high. Maybe if men had stronger friendships with other men, they wouldn't see a deep friendship with a woman as an automatic romantic thing since they've got many deep friendships? but maintaining strong connections to people who could be or were romantic partners in the past will affect their current relationship I'm curious how bisexual people fit into this in your mind, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:57 PM
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If you're getting jealous over stuff like this, it's likely you have an anxious attachment style, I've dated a guy with one of those, it was absolutely awful. Which I understand people will have different views on what's reasonable, but men by and large get shamed and vilified just for expressing any form. If you feel extremely uncomfortable with your partner having male friends or posting pictures online then you should express this at the start of a relationship. If she disagrees with this, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:51 PM
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It's universally agreed on that pretending to be a friend to have sex with someone is wrong. The fact one is wrong doesn't mean actively keeping those guys around cannot also be wrong. How is a woman supposed to know this? If I make it well known that I have a partner and someone befriends me with a hope we will break up, how am I supposed to know this? Men being able to post pictures online doesn't mean women seeking validation from hundreds of men is either okay or beyond reasonable judgement.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:48 PM
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A woman can maintain a roster of "male friends" who are just orbiters waiting for their shot. If her partner says, "This makes me uncomfortable," he's "controlling and insecure." So women are bad for having male friends, but men aren't bad for feigning a friendship even though they have ulterior motives? She can post revealing photos on Instagram for validation from hundreds of other men. If he expresses that it feels disrespectful to the relationship, he's the "toxic" one. Men can post pictures…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:35 PM
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I gave up because I couldn't find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:52 AM
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Are you going to pretend like no women do that? Yeah women who primarily value money over all else will get into relationships and fuck men for money. That's literally the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:54 PM
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Like I said before. You can't select on money and status if everyone around you is the same money and status as you. You can just look for older men with 'money and status' if you were into that. But no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:41 PM
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Saying she left an old man because it was awful confirms your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:36 PM
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25 year old woman dating a 35-40 year old man is very common in many parts of the world. Yeah, poorer parts where the women don't have money or a way to advance. Where the dating market reflects human nature a lot better than the abomination we have in the West. Women being poor and having less opportunity leads them to making choices based on human nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:32 PM
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But it works just fine if the age difference is only 10-15 years. Nope, too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:19 PM
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Then why do men not give a shit? Why do men honestly rank a 5/10 as a 5/10 regardless if she works at Wendy's or is a surgeon. We're not brain dead we understand the benefits of dating a surgeon versus a fry cook. Because relationships aren't usually seen as a way to economically advance for men. For a large part of human history, marrying a rich older man was one of the only ways women could move up in the hierarchy. Age gap marriages are much more likely to end in divorce. This is just a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:19 PM
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Ahha. But that is why they compared men and women. So? It's much less common for older women to look for younger male partners to support financially. They do the same thing with women. The women are 1000 times more likely to rank a guy who makes more $ as more attractive. Again, means to an end. Attractive as a wallet, not a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:04 PM
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They did blind ranking tests. Women were found to be ONE THOUSAND TIMES more responsive to salary information. Which proves absolutely nothing. A job that pays 100k a year vs 10k a year is much more attractive to me if i need the money, but that doesn't mean I'm going to like or enjoy the job. The job is merely a means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:59 PM
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I've been in love before. I know how it feels to have a connection with someone so deep and so intense that you almost can't believe it's real. When this person is your best friend and someone you trust with your life and you can't imagine life without them and they feel the same about you. I also know what it feels like to go to a job I hate every day just because I need the money. Older men with younger women are delusional enough to believe they're getting the first, when they're actually get…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:28 PM
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Please please leave him, this won't end well for you.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/25 07:50 PM
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Yup that';s exactly what happened with my ex.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/25 07:20 PM
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Erotica existed before the internet, and prostitution before that. The internet just made it free and easily accessible, men didn't start wanting sex just because wi-fi arrived. Cave paintings and magazines don't impact the brain the way high speed internet porn does. Easy for them to say they don't, hard to know they don't. They wanted a partner who didn't watch it either. If you can just overcome hormones and neurochemicals with agency and free will, why does it matter if your grey matter is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:39 PM
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No, issue is most men can't meet basic requirements so there's no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:21 AM
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I think you are going to run into problems with 3, 4 and 5. I don't care, they aren't unreasonable. 5 or more partners is pretty common, in my experience, and porn use is extremely common. Yep, sluts are common. No bad temper is extremely subjective, but behaviors below violence like yelling, becoming disinterested or argumentative are part and parcel of being a guy. No, yelling is not 'part of being a guy' it's part of being a manchild with no self control. You're in control of your own behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:53 PM
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So what exactly are you doing on this sub ? Because I'm getting really fucking sick of hearing the same 'wimmin only want 6ft millionaires' bullshit from men. Like REALLY sick of it now. Not that I don't believe you but if I had a nickel for every women I knew who said that to their future partners , ones I knew from college and knew how many one nighters they had one with randos... That's disgusting. Regardless, is there a sub dictionary for various colors pills it's becoming a ms paint now .. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:10 PM
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Usually to autistic american men on here it means approaching a complete stranger and asking them out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:43 PM
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Not that I believe you because in your mind you aren't like that .. so you must have justified it as You knew him from school / college / forx years / had a crush since way.. No, just no. I grew up in a strict religious community, I think casual sex is absolutely disgusting and vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:41 PM
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You literally spend time in the same space and become friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:40 PM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:34 PM
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How does that make sense? How am I 'invisible' to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:45 PM
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The men who pass these standards are invisible to her I've never met a single man who meets these, not one. they don't pass her unmentioned standards (6ft+, etc etc). Please stop projecting your manosphere beliefs onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:45 PM
2

How do I agree with the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:43 PM
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'I can't wait to go to the club tonight! Who knows, I might be lucky enough to meet the guy who makes me a single mother! Said no woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:42 PM
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Who said anything about 'approaching' Why do you have to make everything so fucking weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:39 PM
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"Among U.S. adults 18-35, about 87% of men and 28.5% of women view porn at least once a week" (Source) I'm not from the US. So 7/8 men fail the second-half of your third bullet point, and it's likely higher than 87% because some men lied on the survey. Might be as high as 95%, and maybe most of the other 5% have a low sex drive that would also make you unhappy. Yeah but I don't think it's an unreasonable standard at all so. You're going to have a hard time dating. Personally, I meet all of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:30 PM
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Does it make a difference if the person making you cum is drunk or not? I have zero interest in casual sex, I have even less interest in drunk casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:04 PM
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Yeah? You aren't disagreeing with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:55 PM
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With random drunk strangers? No, I'm not. What if you’re a good person? Then he may want more than sex Wow! If only I'd be so lucky for a man to not JUST want sex *eyeroll*
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:51 PM
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Well not everyone thinks that dancing in a sweaty, loud, crowded environment with intoxicated strangers is fun but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:48 PM
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I would assume any man who made an 'advance' on me at a club is purely looking for sexual stuff and it would be a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:47 PM
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first baby mama Right were together Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:40 PM
2

Like any other mutual space? Work? Friends? Volunteering? Hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:34 PM
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Clubs are loud and packed, you can't even hear people talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:33 PM
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Sorry but who actually goes to clubs looking for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:27 PM
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Are you saying you'd be willing to share a man with other women? Because if not, then it is very much zero sum. No, I'd just go without one. I'm saying it's not as simple as 'a man who isn't a fat alcoholic slut is in high demand and therefore can demand massive inflated standards'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:15 PM
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If they were easy to meet you'd have found a man by now. They are easy to meet, but most men can't be bothered and don't seem to think they should be held to any kind of standard. If all women want these 7 traits, and only 20% of men meet them all, then you'd have to be in the top 20% of women to have a chance at nabbing such a man. It's not a zero sum game, that's really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:51 PM
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The evo psych and the redpill manipulation tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:33 PM
2

What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:20 PM
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So it means your experience probably varies from a large amount of people? I don't know what you mean. 50 percent of ALL marriages end in divorce so I'm sure a lot of innocent groups could be pooled and you'd still find obscurities, that doesn't put own on ONE trait. ADHD is a huge risk factor in failed and unhappy relationships. Regardless, 60 or so percent is still not nearly fair enough to write off an entire group of people altogether. Especially if you haven't gotten to know them yet Yes it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:11 PM
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If they aren't bad people, are they just good people doing one thing wrong and could possibly change? I don't know about their character if I don't know them personally, but their opinions on sex are fundamentally incompatible with my views on sex and so a relationship is a no go. I don't think that is accurate Well your feelings aren't exactly good proof of that. isn't it only older people who were never treated for ADHD? No. filtering out something common with a wide range levels of severity l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:00 PM
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According to these guys, though they'd probably blame you for the cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:59 PM
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You say it's a choice, but how would you know? Because men somehow survived before high speed internet porn Because I've met men who don't watch it Because 'hormone levels' don't remove free will or agency. And if you did and became constantly horny, why would you restrain yourself from watching something that brings you pleasure, what would be the point? Because it destroys grey matter in the brain It decreases sexual satisfaction with a partner The industry is one of the biggest drivers of hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:45 PM
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Because correlation is not causation? So it's just pure coincidence that the divorce rate is that high? Because ADHD is like autism where it's a BROAD spectrum with different sub groups? Okay? And?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:28 PM
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Why is it 'pretty fucking shallow'? I never said people with ADHD aren't nice but it is a huge problem in relationships. The ADHD divorce rate is 66% for a reason. I've dated someone with ADHD and I've got people with ADHD in my family, it's been an absolute nightmare to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:19 PM
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Er, when did I say that? I don't want to date them personally, is that not okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:11 PM
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Almost every man with access to the internet watches porn, that's just a consequence of testosterone. No, it's a consequence of choice. Men choose to do this. Must have been a femosphere influencer that convinced you it was evil. Nope, I've dated a porn addict, it was awful. There are also studies that show watching porn shrinks grey matter in the brain. Thinking anyone who's slept with more than 5 people is a whore, is a manosphere level belief. No it isn't, I value intimacy, the manosphere thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:09 PM
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porn and a high body count = bad person I never said this. But no, they certainly won't be compatible with me and my beliefs. and the ADHD one is just weird No it isn't, ADHD has a 66% divorce rate in marriage for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:07 PM
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If you're not encountering a single person who meets those standards, then one or more of them isn't reasonable. There's a town in Russia where most of the men are heroin users/addicts Are the women in that town being unreasonable for not wanting a heroin addict? Is not wanting a heroin addict a high standard? If they were so normal and common then you would have crossed guys who have that combination of traits at least a few times. More like because degeneracy and hookup culture is so common no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:05 PM
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It’s pretty clear what the message is here. If it’s “undesirable” it is unwanted. To the (presumably neurotypical) people in this thread it is, so? No one ever called YOU lazy, stupid or crazy or even said this about ADHD people in general. How did you get from 'I prefer not to date people with ADHD' to 'People with ADHD including you are lazy, crazy and stupid'?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:12 PM
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I don't know what the pills mean, I just had to pick one. I'm not a manosphere believer no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:08 PM
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No it doesn't 'send that message' People can not want to date someone for any number of reasons, you are the one who made up this conclusion in your own mind and responded as if it were true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:57 PM
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Posted on other places but: I've always said I only have 7 strict relationship standards: No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc) Pretty much all men fail at the first hurdle. Yet I'm still told apparently only w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:56 PM
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I don't actually believe this, my question was a hypothetical in response to yours. Are you going to stop having a mantrum and actually engage with the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:51 PM
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If a man cheats and the woman divorces him under your scenario, it would still be 'her fault' and she'd be single for the rest of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:48 PM
1

You really want a future in which everyone thinks, feels and behaves precisely the same way? Are you trying to say all neurotypical people think and feel and behave in precisely the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:42 PM
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I’m not lazy, stupid, or crazy No one ever said this. You're arguing against a point no one made.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:42 PM
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Then the standards are too high. If a reasonable standard is rare in the population, that says more about the population than the standard. Meaning even if you encounter such a guy, I've yet to meet one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:37 PM
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Wait what? I literally said IF HE CHEATS while she's already married to him. They suggest murder over getting and staying married before you have kids. Where did you get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:35 PM
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Any self respecting man wouldnt pass it. I don't want men who have beliefs that see women as inherently inferior, I don't think 'self respect' has anything to do with it. Yeah but as u all said I assumed that the and attractive part was silent. Well maybe work on not randomly making assumptions based on your pre existing beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:34 PM
1

Ditto, you're essentially signing up to be a lifetime carer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:25 PM
1

In my experience, religious men are just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:24 PM
4

What are you talking about? Your response makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:10 PM
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Because I don't actually think that women should kill their cheating husbands, I'm posing a hypothetical 'Well if what you say is true, then this would also be true' response which you don't seem to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:09 PM
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How? OP has said women are to blame for mens poor behaviour unless he dies. If we follow that premise to its logical end point, then women would be better off killing their cheating husbands and claiming widowhood instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:06 PM
2

I didn't mention that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:05 PM
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I haven't made the argument that women cheating is the fault of men, OP has made the opposite argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:04 PM
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This list reads like a femcel version of an incel checklist None of the standards on this list are crazy or hard to attain. This is far and away the most unrealistic one. Don't care, don't want whores. Does this describe yourself? It better. Obviously Does this describe yourself? It better. Obviously You're going to grill the dude until you uncover a belief that is manosphere adjacent, since 99% of men have beliefs that aren't all ultra feminist. If he believes in evo psych or red pill manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:04 PM
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Most people would consider 3 beers a day to be too much. Yeah? Alcohol is really bad for you and damages your body. So, what exactly can you offer that I couldn't get in a relationship with someone else who doesn't have an oppressive checklist? I exceed every one of the standards I listed but the point is, I'm not going to fight to prove myself for a binge drinker lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:01 PM
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But in this scenario, she only becomes one if you cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:00 PM
2

LOL I never said a man had to be completely teetotal, I just said no heavy drinkers. I'm not going to try and 'prove' how much of a catch I am to stop a man being an alcoholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:34 AM
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which I wouldn't pass is 6. So you don't pass, point proven. They just don't pass your looks or height criteria (for example I'm just 5'9 ) I never said anything about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:33 AM
1

The evo psych and red pill strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:33 AM
1

Then you go on to have children that fails many of those , what would you do? What has that got to do with anything? What if you find out that you yourself fail some of those , or it’s not conceivable? I.... find out... that I'm obese? Or a secret chain smoker? What on earth do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:32 AM
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Well under you rules, that's the best thing she could do since she'll be blamed for him cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:29 AM
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So I guess women should just kill their cheating husband because then she'd be a widow, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:23 AM
2

I don't want to date women - guess that's also eugenics? You monster, how do you live with yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:20 AM
2

And the chances are she doesn't offer anything in return that would make a relationship with her worth it. Based on what? Your feelings say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:04 AM
2

How is the above criteria 'perfect'? I exceed all these standards, does that make me a perfect woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:04 AM
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Yes, that's not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:03 AM
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Please explain how they're 'too high'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:01 AM
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Yup, I exceed them all and yet men are having breakdowns saying no man can reach this because it's so unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:01 AM
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You have never once said whether or not you would qualify for your own standards. Actually I have, I exceed every single one by a large amount. and lie through their teeth if you were worth it. Why would they do that? They'd have no issue tricking me into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:59 AM
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It's ironic because half the comments from men are saying they're completely impossible to meet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:55 AM
1

Nah, 66% divorce rate for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:53 AM
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I've always said I only have 7 strict relationship standards: No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc) Pretty much all men fail at the first hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:11 AM
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I've always said I only have 7 strict relationship standards: No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc) Pretty much all men fail at the first hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:10 AM
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it’s inherently problematic if you’re settled for Well duh, I don't wanna be settled for and neither do most women. Just accept your being settled for Er no, I don't want to so I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:19 PM
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You're making the assumption that I believe playing hard to get is good: I don't. Somehow, you still aren't getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:03 PM
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I never made any claim about that. I'm responding to OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:54 PM
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I don't think you're getting it. If the OPs premise is correct, that men will essentially take anyone, then it will follow that for a woman he really likes he would actually try a lot harder and go a lot further. I never said anything about ego boost, you just made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:50 PM
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Then women literally can't win and should avoid relationships with men all together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:45 PM
28

Then surely women should deliberately play hard to get to determine if the man has real interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:08 PM
3

You missed the entire point of the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:47 AM
2

buyables? the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:44 AM
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What are you talking about? I'm saying that MEN are the ones doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:23 AM
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Weight loss wouldn't have helped, I was underweight. I can't tan either. My point wasn't about whether these things are fixable, my point was I don't hate men as a group for bullying and rejecting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:07 AM
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Yeah but normal IRL men aren't like them for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:06 AM
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I had a chubby face too, plus i was very pale, I looked sick in half my photos. I really didn't look great at all. I worked on glowing up, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:04 AM
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I got 'unlucky with genetics' and had glasses (bad eyesight genetically), braces (crooked teeth genetically), and bad skin as a teenager. Boys my age were absolutely horrible to me, to the point of physically attacking me and making me cry. Then I got the braces off, my skin cleared up and I got laser eye surgery. Men treated me much better then. Am I angry at men for this? No of course not because I'm not unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:53 AM
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Then why would you need to enslave women? Why wouldn't they be willling?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:44 AM
2

Who is 'they'?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:26 AM
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No, just no. Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:24 AM
0

You know that's not how it works, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:03 AM
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I don't think i can link without being banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:00 AM
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I'm a virgin and I don't want to get married ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:34 PM
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Women generally aren't interested in random promiscous sex with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:29 PM
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I certainly didn't, none of the women I know have ever done that. Men expect me to accept their whore phase though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:28 PM
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It literally says chatgpt in your link.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:27 PM
1

'source chatgpt'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:51 PM
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Yeah but ironically they then become the 'ready to settle down now' men which men complain about when the situation is reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:45 PM
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Where is that stat from? Also men are more likely to lie about their sexual history than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:42 PM
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My sex life tells me something entirely different thoug "Muh personal experience"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:41 PM
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It's a privilege to be attracted to the sex that will happily use your body to masturbate into and likely not even care about your enjoyment? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:40 PM
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Second, women can have sex whenever they want. They just need to ask a guy and be genuine about it and the guy will accept more often than not. But they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:39 PM
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You are just generalizing your own opinion Meanwhile I personally know 3 women with triple body counts. I legit just laughed my ass off, I've never seen a better example than a man lacking self awareness in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:36 PM
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I’d say most women not married by 30 have gone through some phase where they “rode the CC” (whatever that means…) for about 3 months to 3 years at some point. Based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:33 PM
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Most women i know have/had a steady fwb while single It's actually fascinating that men can be shown all the stats in the world and will still respond with 'The women I PERSONALLY know'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:32 PM
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Women want the authority and posturing of men, the responsibility and accountability of a child, yet keep whatever advantages women have over others. Can you give an example of what you mean here? Because this is very vague?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:05 PM
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I'm asking you what you think women are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:59 PM
7

So why do you think slavery is the best way to increase marriage rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:53 PM
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Women would either be my concubines or servants. I suppose they could also be priestesses. So your idea of collaborating with women is by forcing them into being your sexual or domestic slaves? This is how humanity functioned for thousands of years, it worked well. We flipped the system onto its head 50 years ago, and everything has gone to shit. I must've missed something, women have ALWAYS been mens domestic or sexual slaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:51 PM
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They do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:50 PM
8

How does this look to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:30 AM
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Well why lie to trick someone into a relationship? That's an incredibly sick and cruel thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:20 AM
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What would you lie about? Do you watch porn too? Anything to fuck him over. It's a little funny sure. And why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:12 AM
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I would never do anything dishonest in a relationship but if I ever found out he'd lied in order to get into a relationship and taken away my ability to decide who I want to be with, I'd do everything in my power to fuck him over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:10 AM
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These aren't low standards. They are easy to attain, so yes they are. Realistically, you will likely end up with a man who does watch porn, but either lies about not watching it, or stops watching it after he settles down with you. I'd let him know lying to me about it would have severe consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:57 AM
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all you will find is a man who is willing to lie about his porn use to get in your pants. And why would he do that? If he sets the standard that lying to your partner is okay if you get what you want out of it, then it's fair game that I can do the same. I know a lot of men that paid for sex, and are now married, and their wives have no idea lol. You think that's funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:43 AM
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Men don't even bring that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:42 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:39 AM
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None of them were loyal meaning they all cheated?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:46 AM
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I wouldn't even consider the guys appearance if he didn't meet those. That is the minimum threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:16 AM
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When did I tag a sermon onto it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:47 PM
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So this man was in 5 relationships for 2 years each, didn't propose to any of them, they all failed and he spent only 1 year staying single and possibly reflecting on what went wrong out of 14 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:19 PM
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is a man supposed to stay in a bad relationship to not be a "whore"? When did I even imply this? I don't know what's your preferred age range but let's say a 30yo man is likely going to have 5 or more relationships if he wasn't lucky to find a good woman. Then he wasn't dating seriously, he was dating casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:09 PM
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So having any physical preference is bad now? I'm sure men have zero physical preferences for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:50 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:41 PM
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Believe what you want, I like short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:39 PM
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I like short guys, I'm not super keen on bald ones at this age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:35 PM
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Are you an elected spokesperson?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:33 PM
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It’s not your fault it’s how men believe that they need to prove themselves worthy to women for validation or intercourse as primary initiators heterosexual of relationships. Is this what you think they're doing in the comments? Your standards aren’t low if most men aren’t them reaching by definition. They are easy achievable and therefore low. The fact that men aren't meeting them is more a testament to them than the standard. They just seem low but I can also say that most women aren’t virgins…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:33 PM
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Are these your preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:30 PM
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Drinking isn't for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:25 PM
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If the list was ragebait, why wouldn't I say something like 'Must be 6'5ft, a millionaire, PhD, etc? Ragebait would imply CRAZY standards that would make men angry, but I massively exceed every one of these standards so how exactly are they unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:22 PM
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Because it just doesn't matter that much It doesn't matter that much to YOU. Why would you take choice away from someone like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:13 PM
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It’s strange how you make up these arbitrary standards As opposed to? Getting my standards from someone else? watch men react, in a weird competitive way to prove themselves worthy. Prove themselves worthy? How am I doing this? I was making a point about general low standards and how despite this men still can't meet them. I hear all them time that women are shallow because we only want 'rich 7ft chads' but most men can't even meet the fairly basic standards that I have. when no one cares for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:11 PM
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I don’t see how that’s bad for your brain Of course you don't, you've done no research clearly. It shrinks the grey matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:05 PM
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I actually think you could fall for a guy even if he didn't meet your 5th, 6th and (unfortunately) 4th standards As soon as that became apparent, I'd be out the door. A lot of your physical attraction to a man is based on things within his control. Yup, physical attractive is meaningless if he can't meet these standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:00 PM
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You literally responded to a comment that I responded to about porn. Do you have a problem with my other preferences? Are they unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:54 PM
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So then you have a very small pool of men. I'm not criticizing, but is it worth it to you to put in the effort to find this unicorn? No it isn't, I'm not actively searching anymore. I found dating soul sucking, particularly if trying to find men who don't engage in behavior that the vast majority do. Yeah same, I massively exceed every standard I've listed so I don't think wanting them is unreasonable. If most men can't meet them, then I'm not really interested single the quality if men is so lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:53 PM
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Ok? Well I have that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:50 PM
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Wow you nailed it, couldn't have put it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:49 PM
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"it's valuable because I value it" Porn fuels human trafficking, I don't want someone who chooses to watch it despite knowing that. Anyways not to scare u but if I'm super into someone who's anti porn like that, I'd definitely lie about it Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:38 PM
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Er by spending time with them and talking to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:37 PM
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No not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:36 PM
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Yeah but I don't consider any of them optional so
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:36 PM
-1

You think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:22 PM
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This is the coda for all the "women" on this subreddit, by the way, guys. Are you feeling okay? They think they're inflicting some emotional damage on you with whatever bullshit they're spewing, even if blatantly untrue (such as in this case) Are you saying I'm lying about porn being a dealbreaker for me? They'll say some outrageous thing to essentially try and ragebait you. Not wanting to date a man who watches porn is an outrageous thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:06 PM
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Absolute king
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:01 PM
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Might I ask how old you are/what age range are you dating in? I'm Mid-late Twenties and I dated from early-late 20s. 3 is the stickler. In my 30s and of my single friends and I don't think I know a single guy who has slept with less than 5 people. Which is horrifying and an absolute no to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:53 PM
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Where did I say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:50 PM
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Are women who don’t think they are that attractive. Or are afraid that you will lust after other women. Or you have other types. Or that you aren’t even attracted to her. Or that you are settling for her. Nope, believe it or not women can be motivated by things other than insecurity and competition anxiety. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/twenty-year-sentence-girlsdoporn-sex-trafficking-conspiracy It’s a woman’s way of being territorial. Trying to control your thoughts and libido and lust i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:47 PM
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I have slept with more than 5 people (although not a lot more) and I do have some beliefs that correlate with manosphere Hell to the no. I think it's impossible that you find someone that fulfills 1,2,4,5,6,7 that is slept with less than 5 women, unless you go for a highschooler Which is exactly the point. God forbid I expect a man to have some self control and not be a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:38 PM
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Lmao, thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:33 PM
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Interestingly I've been okay with that part. In my experience, Slept with less than 5 people No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs These were the hardest for sure. how come it's so important to you? My own values around sex and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:32 PM
1

Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:25 PM
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Why do I have a knee jerk reaction to seeing women wanting men to watch no porn as being insecure? Because you likely watch it yourself and me stating a preference so openly is making you feel rejected even though you don't know me. I’ve dated women who have watched more porn than me. Your experiences with the women you've dated have nothing to do with me or my comment. Why no porn and not porn in moderation? Not everyone watching porn is addicted Because it's a superstimulant that rewires the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:23 PM
2

I mean they can't meet all 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:19 PM
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I think it's more like 90% generally
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:17 PM
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I've always said that to be a top man to me he'd just have to have 7 things: No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc) Pretty much all men fail at the first hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:03 PM
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Where was she from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:11 PM
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Why would I lie? Also I thought him being short and poor would disqualify him by red pill standards of what women find attractive? Yeah he's pretty normal looking as in he looked like any other guy you'd see on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:02 PM
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Er no, he was a pretty normal looking guy, pretty weak jaw and chin, had pretty nice hair. He was very smart and very funny, I started liking him after we became friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:54 PM
2

Can you explain how 'Red pill tactics' will help you get a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:12 PM
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The first guy I ever liked was 5ft 5 and chubby. He also had no money, he literally had 5+ girls lusting after him (and he had a girlfriend)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:10 PM
1

That's interesting, do you see what RPM say as largely correct then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:34 PM
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LOL this is funny, I hope RPW prospers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:34 PM
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Are you guys like, the red pill for women or do you agree with the things red pill men say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:20 PM
2

Irrelevant, we still don't wanna fuck old men because you don't like your age matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:16 AM
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Ah yes you're basing this off of.... Three articles. Three.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:21 PM
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I love how in these examples you literally pick a top 0.000001% man who will have had personal trainers, makeup, perfect on screen lighting and every single anti aging treatment imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:58 PM
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No they don't. How about you stop speaking for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:20 PM
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Most women wanting those men would be a similar age, 20 year old women aren't lusting after middle aged men, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:13 PM
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Er no, no they don't. And you're naming top 0.001% celebrities that would've undergone every single anti aging treatment imaginable, this is somehow supposed to prove your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:09 PM
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This is because we are tribal animals and men with high status were typically very capable providers. Why do you think evolution suddenly stopped like 10,000 years ago? A lot of times when women say "he is so confident" what they are actually saying is "he displays traits of someone high on the social hierarchy". LMAO, you really don't have a clue how female sexuality works do you? Bless you I actually laughed out loud. This is why Passport Bro works so well. Just being a Westerner gives you a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:05 PM
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Because it's largely unreciprocated delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:49 PM
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Females: Select on a combination of looks, money and status. I really wish this manosphere bullshit would just die already. What the fuck even is 'status' and what woman looks at a man and says 'check out the status on that one'?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:48 PM
2

Based on what? Most women date within 2 years of their age, this is the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:41 PM
3

then why do most women date a man of the same age?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:15 AM
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An 18yo is still a boy. The low end for prime for most physical disciplines is 25. Unless maybe you’re talking about sperm health or sexual prime. Laughable. The cut off for joining the UK regular army is 29, not the peak age, the MAXIMUM age. Minimum age is 18, based on this, 23-24 would be 'prime'. Agreed. A trait that provides an object. Something women value a great deal. When countries become more egalitarian, women marry men of the same age, making it obvious that women only go after men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:31 AM
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Men aren't more fit at 34 than 24. Peak male fitness is 18-25 (Some women lower the physical requirements for a man if he can make up for it with ambition.) Ambition is a character trait, money is an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:49 AM
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'Caring about money' isn't attraction, you still aren't getting it. Prime of 50 is actually insane, no one looks better at 50 vs 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:27 AM
1

Earning potential doesn't increase raw attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:06 AM
3

Who cares about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:04 AM
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Most young women are looking for men in their mid 30s with alot of money with a particular high class lifestyle. Noooope, we want age matched men, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:00 AM
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For example, a 42 year old man who works out and has his life together is far more sexually attractive than a 26 year old burnout. No no no and no. I'd definitely go for a 26 year old 'burnout' vs an old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:58 AM
1

Not all women want marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:57 AM
2

First of all, you are being way too aggressive for a simple debate. I'm not actually 'being aggressive' at all, you're reading text on a screen and interpreting words with no tone as 'aggression' probably because you're hypersensitive. I was one of the few RPers that just did what the original sidebar said to do: Read the essential list, which were around 5 books, lift and focus on yourself. Yeah the 'original' red pill was just as dehumanising to women. I'm not saying that to glaze myself, I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:17 PM
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Having a higher education, more money or more hobbies does not put you in a higher league. When did I say this? Oftentimes it has more to do with the relative power that individual has in the dating game and how many options they have My first boyfriend has been single since I dumped him in 2018, I have had multiple relationships since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:12 PM
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There is no contradiction here at all, how slow are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:26 PM
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I'm struggle to understand what you're trying to say, your comments don't seem to form any kind of logical argument? What are you even trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:06 PM
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Agree to disagree. Let me guess, you've watched a few whatever podcast episodes where the women (largely onlyfans creators or sex workers) state they will only date men over 6ft or millionaires and now you've based your entire worldview around this? Because most people tend to say that when they refer to their closest people around them. Not strangers on the internet... I said people. That's horrible. I'm sorry. Just standard manosphere behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:03 PM
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....yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:00 PM
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Most women do, you're just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:58 PM
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Or it could be because women's egos have increased, which lead to them rather being single than not being a man they "perceive" to be in their league... Nope, it's definitely what I said. This is just manosphere horseshit. I interpreted this: Yes, that's the problem. Your interpretation of something that I never actually said. As your friends or families telling you that... They wouldn't be in my life if they told me that. Who else was saying that to you? The first boyfriend I ever had abused me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:55 PM
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My experience is absolutely NOT the exception. If anything, women largely deciding to abstain from dating and marriage is largely due to this. especially about your friends putting you down by devaluing your self-worth. I never said anything about friends putting me down, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:48 PM
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Funny because I've been told that I must've been 'aiming too high' when I ended up in bad relationships even though I had more than my partner across every metric imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:40 PM
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Well their conclusion is clearly wrong so yeah duh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:23 AM
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growing up playing video games thinking maxing one stat leaves less points for others. Wow this is useful, never thought of it like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:41 PM
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That makes no fucking sense at all. So most people in my country have accidents and die at work? The population of my country is almost 70 million. A few hundreds people dying at work each year in especially dangerous fields is hardly an national emergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:49 PM
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In my country, it's a few hundred. it's easy to disprove her claim that men aren't comparatively having words than women. what
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:39 PM
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Almost 90% of workplace death consists of men Yes but a TINY number of men actually die in the workplace so you're talking 90% of a few hundred.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:31 PM
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Which data?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:29 AM
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No, the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:08 AM
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women don't need men anymore, men give up trying because they are still expected to be men without being men What do you mean by this? but they want me to be a women, in a mans body, and thats not possible How are they expecting that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:13 AM
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To be fair it's the women ditching men. We all know the divorce stats. One of the biggest reasons women divorce men is due to the man cheating. There's also 'spousal abandonment' meaning the man leaves to be with someone else but leaves her to do the paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:12 AM
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Well why would women choose to invest in a relationship with a man when you get 'less valuable' to him over time? Plus there' not any safety net if he ditches you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:16 AM
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Because nobody gives af about older women. And because they are less sexually attractive. No one is rushing to provide or care about them or take interest in them. So you would hope a man who did when u were attractive and had value would take responsibility and stay with you through your uselessness years. And that’s just a smart gamble. Surely then it would make sense for women to just focus on building lasting wealth independent of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:15 AM
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Again, another guy doesn't walk into the room. We are already taking the average of all guys in the building. You still aren't getting it. And yes, even in your scenario another guy would drop down the hierarchy because introducing an extra guy changes the supply-demand ratio. This is so autistic it's actually hilarious. Mathematical approach absolutely works, but you need to understand math and logic to see it. Attraction doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:15 PM
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You still aren't getting it. This stupid autistic black and white mathematical approach to dating is NOT HOW IT WORKS. If a man is great a communication and another guy walks into the room who's even better at communication, the first guy doesn't drop down some kind of 'communication hierarchy'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:03 PM
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and experienced dating a sociopath Nope, he wasn't a sociopath, just insecure and wanted me to chase him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:05 AM
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Oh please, my ex went down the red pill pipe line Tried to "dread game" me because 'wimmin value a high value man who makes her chase' Well it backfired and he lost me forever. I don't need to be 'put in my place' I'm not some subordinate or slave, I'm a person deserving of equal respect and autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:17 AM
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You don't even know what 'decent skin care' is ffs. Skincare and diet cannot fade pigmentation the way BBL and MOXI can. Skincare and diet does not use stem cells to repair skin damage or increase collagen production which naturally declines with age. You aren't a scientist, stop talking out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:18 AM
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I'm not the fucking representative for all women. It's only men on here I see openly disagreeing with stats because 'muh feelings'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:17 AM
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Yes but considering you don't even know what PRP and Exosomes are, you can't really comment can you? You can have a healthy lifestyle AND get cosmetic treatments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:59 AM
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Well as a scientist I'm very interested to know how exactly you can perform your own exosome or PRP treatment at home. I'm sure you're an expert on the topic, care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:26 AM
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It's usually either neurodivergence or fearful avoidant attachment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:47 PM
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No, I'm saying if he went to therapy he wouldn't have the paranoid obsession that his future wife was going to cuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:44 PM
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True, but even a hint of manosphere beliefs should be instadump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:42 PM
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Of course it does. No....it... doesn't? If I'm in a room full of men I find attractive, they don't cease being attractive because a more attractive one walks into the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:26 PM
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Men are more likely to lie than women. Are you saying if I told a man I'm not attracted to bald men he'd kill me on the spot?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:25 PM
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Don't date RP/Manosphere men is the best dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:57 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:55 PM
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If they were honest, they'd be beaten, raped and killed by men on a much larger scale than they already are. Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:48 PM
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I never claimed they did. But whether it's a single hookup, FWB, situationship, or whatever, you can bet if they landed a guy above their weight class, Based on? Why are you so hyperfocused on this ridiculous scenario you invented where women are getting marriage proposals at first site? What is this even supposed to prove? Because you said women are being approached and 'offered commitment' on a regular basis. Back to my actual point, if a woman's standards aren't high relative to themselves, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:44 PM
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Of course they don't, that would damage the ego too much. No, because it's autistic and asocial to think in the way you describe. If I like a man, I like him. If other people consider me more attractive or out of his league I don't care, I like him and that's what matters. If hypothetically, every woman in the West only based they're standards on men they were able to get commitment from and didn't include men they hooked up with, do you think there would be more single women or less? Most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:46 PM
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If she's at a point where she's considering the bald man because she doesn't have better options available, then that's likely her level. That makes no sense and women don't think about it like that. If her level was higher, she would be getting offered commitment from higher caliber men then. Do you go outside? Do women get approached on the street with marriage proposals?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:04 PM
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That's not how it works, it's not a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:51 PM
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If Bob actually tried to improve himself and his life, he wouldn't be facing a lot of these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:23 PM
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How do you know whether a woman who isn't attracted to bald men 'qualifies' for a bald man on not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:20 PM
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That's ridiculous. Skin is the first place that shows aging and going to the gym won't help that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:06 PM
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Why don't you let him speak for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:35 PM
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Idk, some of the treatments yall be using is aging you faster. No, BBL, MOXI, PRP, SPF, etc will not age you faster. All the gen z women i know personally look older than their age by 3-5 years. Ah yes the classic male 'in my experience' line lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:32 PM
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You just said Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrifice When did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:28 PM
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Bullshit, women get actual skin treatments at a spa that don't come off. Women also wear SPF and take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:11 PM
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I'm responding to what the guy said Can you stop projecting your shit onto me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:10 PM
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Western women just aren't smart or wise enough to understand that they have created a prison for themselves by zeroing in on an extremely narrow view of male attractiveness. I don't think not wanting to fuck bald men is 'creating a prison for themselves'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:07 PM
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Oooh the men really aren't going to like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:26 AM
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I heard the same type of arguments from men towards me because I said I would only be with another virgin. SAME! They never seem okay with it when it's the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:45 AM
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LOL no, no it fucking isn't. Burn the whole thing to the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:23 PM
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They don't. A few articles don't prove women go on a fuck spree after divorce but men struggle to comprehend that a few anecdotal stories don't really mean anything. Anything that confirms their worldview and makes them feel a lot of emotions? The truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:52 PM
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I never mentioned anything about people who are very attractive, you've just completely moved the goalpost. This was my original comment: despite what the manosphere thinks women don't like the idea of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:22 PM
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Look at this thread: https://x.com/awesomedudeguy7/status/1968459904198361577 It's GENERALLY not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:49 PM
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because people in general tend to value things that are coveted. This is stupid 'one size fits all' psychology that doesn't apply in this situation. Competition also keeps women on their toes. I definitely don't feel 'on my toes' in this situation, I perceive a man entertaining another woman as lack of interest. Plus women don't like the thought of being pedestalized or feeling like they bring more value in the relationship Lmao, no not at all. Men never listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:00 PM
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Idk? Gay men tend to be very very promiscuous and despite what the manosphere thinks women don't like the idea of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:27 AM
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I'm bi and I know a lot of women don't like that. Bi men seem a lot more emotionally healthy and have less toxic masculinity than straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:51 PM
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What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:37 PM
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Then women don't deserve men's attention. If 'women don't like it when men act passive and indifferent' is so horrifying and unjust to you that the entire human race should die out because of it then so be it. It's a fucking weird hill to die on though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:18 AM
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"Men" plural? Most women have what is called a RESPONSIVE sexuality and libido, meaning we start feeling desire when we feel like we are liked and pursued. This is the case with most women, the fact that so many modern men have princess syndrome doesn't change this one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:49 AM
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I'd probably just have kids through IVF in a few years tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:23 AM
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Nope, I don't need any more money and sure I can travel but a family would be great. Men are the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:02 AM
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I would LOVE to be a mother, it's one of the biggest goals of my entire life. But men.... so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:11 PM
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When duh, it depends on why they're getting nowhere? Most men have nothing to offer and their standards for themselves are on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:28 PM
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Depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:34 PM
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I'm not usually one for gender roles but this just comes across as passive and disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:34 PM
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My ex decided to play this 'stop showing interest to increase attraction' game. He's my ex and will stay that way now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:26 PM
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Because men usually have a past but think that it doesn't matter for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:45 AM
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What divorce and custody rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:09 AM
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Which stats are those?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:31 PM
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Do you reckon you’re changing many minds about… anything… on here? Nope, but I have a 'Men being retarded' folder that a collect screenshots of, I get a lot of stuff from here lmao. Widely discussed observations and shared experiences that cross cultures all across the globe by millions (if not billions) of men aren’t feelings. If there's no study, they're anecdotes. There is a high likelihood that you are both of those things as well. Nope, try again. Yes absolutely. We are all animals and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:15 AM
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I know right? One hell of a scam
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:11 PM
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it’s not that hard to make it work with someone who is different from you. I'm struggling to understand this..... how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:32 PM
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who is just beginning to build up his attractiveness. Sorry what What on earth does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:31 PM
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When did I say otherwise? I never said anything like that. I said you can't always tell, which is true. I don't think I would've been a great partner when I was using.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:18 PM
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This is the 100% truth and was my experience with drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:08 PM
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Well maybe you should try and broaden your perspective beyond your own field of view. Men are often victims of their own narrow and solipsistic thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:07 PM
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No seriously, you can laugh but it's true. Hence I know how easy it can be to hide things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:52 PM
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You know when I was a recreational drug user, not a single person could tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:40 PM
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His manosphere brain rot told him that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:16 PM
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Never, people don't approach strangers in my culture Rarely, people are reserved about this in my culture Yes but I'm not interested in a 'sexual partner' No, I have a fairly small but strict criteria and I've never met a single man who can actually pass all 7, most fail at the first hurdle
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:16 PM
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You know people who are looking to date don't tend to 'broadcast' their bad traits right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:08 PM
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Are these affirmative statements based on anything other than your own feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:05 PM
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If you’re so frustrated, why do you even want to comment on here? Because I'm sick of red pill men and the stupid ideas they put out into the world. He said it because it’s the unspoken truth/rule. No it isn't, your 'feelings' aren't the unspoken truth. If you have some dude that looks like Wallace Shawn or Steve buscemi… you aren’t going to date him simply because he doesn’t jerk his dick to porn and is oblivious to the redpill. That’s utter bullshit. My first boyfriend was not physically attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:57 PM
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How was that not civil?! He keeps making shit up!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:53 PM
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3 + 6? And how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:29 AM
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Once again proving my point, and I'm sure you fail the same ones as the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:25 AM
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I updated it, must've been cut off
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:28 PM
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Like 30k, and he was offering to essentially pay for all the expenses and then some and he has zero takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:39 PM
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From a man who can't even spell 'common' I'm tired, I'm so fucking tired of red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:27 PM
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where did I say anything about that? Can you people just shut the fuck up and stop making things up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:14 PM
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I do that too but sometimes I need a little inspiration. Funding human trafficking because 'you need a little inspiration' lmao cool. You can have a hardline about it but to me it seems a little unrealistic. Humans haven't had internet porn for 99% of history, now it's too unrealistic to abstain from it? lol okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:33 PM
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Another case of "I need proof of the sky being blue!" Lmao No, because you have zero proof of this. 90+% of custody, child support, and alimony is going to women Completely false. You have been "arguing" with these deflections, straw men, and snarky remarks for over a decade now, and where has it gotten you? Lol I've been doing that? You have no answers or alternatives, while the conservatives do Yeah I do actually, RP points have been debunked countless times. Yes Lmao How exactly are you plann…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:32 PM
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I would struggle with number 3. I’ve slept with more than 5 people. I enjoy porn when I’m single but if I’m actually seeing somebody, the porn gets shelved Thank you for proving my point. I’m not addicted to it but if I’m single, what are my other options? Er, masturbate without it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:13 PM
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Which is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:22 AM
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Is casual sex revolting when women have it? Yes. The manosphere isn’t necessarily sexist Bullshit. But I’ve dated feminists and I consider myself pretty red pilled. We didn’t always agree with each other but we still had chemistry and had fun together. And it didn't work out. I'm not interested in having random hedonistic 'fun' with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:10 AM
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No there aren't, most men are overweight and most watch porn. Even one of these standards (Number 3) rule out 80% of men right away. I fail points 3 and 6, but those are kinda weird standards. Why do you have them? 3- I find casual sex revolting and have no interest in a man who's done it. I also think watching porn is pure brain melting degeneracy. 6- I don't want to date a man with sexist beliefs who sees me a fundamentally less than human. Not really weird standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:03 AM
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No heavy alcohol use, smoking or drug use Not massively underweight or obese Slept with less than 5 people and no porn use Kind and gentle (no bad temper) No personality disorders, ADHD, autism or serious mental illness No manosphere beliefs Basic interest in health, fitness and healthy living (e.g diet, exercise, sleep, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:51 AM
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How many posts are just men complaining that women have standards. My ex told me my standards were unreasonable too, funny that it wasn't that hard for me to meet those standards in myself. I only have 7 strict standards in a man, I've never met a single man that meets all 7, EVER.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:19 AM
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You best believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:16 AM
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You should, he's pathetic and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:47 PM
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He's just a dlido with an STD, going to be single and childless for life now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:20 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:18 PM
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Keyword: you, not other women. Guys need to have broad appeal if they want to be successful in dating. Advice that is only applicable to appeal to one person is borderline useless or even harmful. The man is question was interested in ME. Not the entire fucking city. He followed my advice and guess what? I fell in love with him and wanted to marry him. He followed the retarded manosphere? Done. He can go find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:48 PM
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I’m referring to the talking stage, not relationships. Most single guys struggling with dating come on way too strong early — most women want the guy to match her energy. https://x.com/awesomedudeguy7/status/1968459904198361577 Yeaaaah, no. I can say from experience I had a lot more success with being a little distant instead of trying too hard, and most men will tell you the same thing. You're attracting anxiously attached women, not healthy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:47 PM
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It's not done out of malice, it's done out of a lack of understanding. So if I notice what makes me feel excited and enthusiastic about a man, and I tell him, that's me not understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:39 PM
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Why would women give advice to men that will make them unattracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:34 PM
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That's retarded, she was seriously ill and had a couple years MAX. I also wasn't looking after her forever, just until I got her moved into a new house where she had less risk of falling. My ex also wanted to marry me and had already discussed having a family, he had secretly had feelings for me for years. I also had my own health problem (fixed after I had surgery) which made it even harder. But whatever, he played a retarded game and lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:33 PM
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Unfortunately, being distant over clingy consistently yields much better results for men in the current dating scene. Especially for the younger generation Wrong, most women aren't anxiously attached. In fact there was a post on twitter the other day where a guy claimed he acted non-chalantly to attract a girl he liked. It didn't work. Every single girl in the comments was calling him an idiot for believing that works. Even a lot of women who claim they want their man clingy don’t actually like …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:29 PM
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So let me get this straight: you were keeping your ex at arm's length and then it surprised you when he resorted to desperate measures to try to make it work. Men have needs too and don't want to be stuck in an LDR forever. My mother was extremely sick and had no one to look after her. I also didn't have a job in his city, how exactly was I supposed to just 'move' to another city? Doesn't sound like a mistake to me. Sounds like he finally grew a backbone and put himself first. He put himself fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:26 PM
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I would 100000% prefer clingy over distant, I always read distant as lacking interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:17 PM
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I've known about the red pill since Return of Kings was a thing. I've read every book, seen every podcast and video. You know absolutely fucking nothing about me. Also where are you from? Why is your English so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:14 PM
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Most guys get 0 women a year lol. This guy did way better than 90% of men. Fucking poor village girls in Slovakia who are desperate for a UK passport and contracting a lifelong STD isn't really a win is it? He's slowly becoming an alcoholic from depression, he simply cannot understand why he cannot find a tradwife who wants his degenerate ass. Such a win. Seems like we are only getting one side of the story. Guys who are happy in their relationships don't destroy them just because someone told t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:13 PM
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What are you talking about? You literally just typed a bunch of words that have zero meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:07 PM
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Some are. They all are. There are. Red pill ideas also promotes self-care and being not needy. You can have self care alone, no misogyny needed. If majority of red-pillers where basically porn addicted ugly basement dweller pyscho harasser manuplatiors, we wouldn't have this subreddit. Majority have fearful avoidant attachment styles, and give advice designed to attract anxiously attached women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:03 PM
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No, he got to 50+ over the course of almost 20 years. That's around 2.5 girls a year. He travelled all over Europe banging low class desperate women who were 'impressed' that he was from the UK. He contracted HSV2 and now has to deal with crusty sores on his genitals every time they randomly erupt. After age 35+ he then entered into his 'settle down' phase and has been seeking a nice Christian girl for marriage and children, slight problem with that though, no Christian woman wants a reformed sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:00 PM
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He's single, in his mid 30s and childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:52 PM
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"Red pill" ideas are unorganized collective ideas coming from reasoned and unreasoned findings. They're anecdotal emotional abuse tactics designed to provoke a reaction from anxiously attached and mentally unstable women. They aren't good advice in any cricumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:52 PM
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How is this good 'generic' advice? It's horrible advice from men who've had horrible relationships and are both single and childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:50 PM
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This is just proving the red pill right, no? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:50 PM
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Why do men try and promote 'red pill' ideas to their friends? They just end up getting dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:39 PM
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Yeah I think male intrasexual competition is way more common and insidious than most men realise. A couple of my exes friends were telling him that he should be more cold and distant with me to 'increase my attraction' and 'make me respect him more' One of those friends is 50 and is offering to essentially pay a much younger fertile woman to have a child with him. The other is mid 30s, single, slept with over 50 women and is extremely angry and bitter, he's also been arrested twice. My ex is SHO…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:38 PM
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Because women are desperate for love and affection and have been taught since birth that marriage makes them valuable and a quality woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:23 PM
1

I'd do the same if a man lied about his sexual history to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:47 PM
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I've never lied, I have had a guy try to downplay his sexual past so that I'd look past it and marry him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:28 PM
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What are you even talking about? Family and criminal courts are completely rigged in favor of women Source? It's silly to think that men are going to allow it So what? They force women into relationships and children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:56 PM
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What are you even talking about? Family and criminal courts are completely rigged in favor of women Source? It's silly to think that men are going to allow it So what? They force women into relationships and children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:56 PM
2

We don't have to have casual sex with men, you know this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:54 PM
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Deeply questionable. Men who can't get sex don't get married, lol. Stats are clear, facts don't care about your feelings. That's a criteria you applied. Promiscous women are more likely to have mental health problems, are more likely to have been sexually abused as children, are more likely to have personality disorders, substance abuse issues, etc. Probably because you're deranged, man-hating feminist. Saying that promiscuity is bad for men and women makes me a deranged man hating feminist even…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:52 PM
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Getting married was almost like taking on the responsibility of caring for a child. Yeah because women had virtually no rights including the right to work and earn money freely. In exchange the woman had a roof over her head, someone to protect her and food on the table. Women can do that for themselves if men don't strip their rights away and force them to depend on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:44 PM
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Women hound men for marriage because they're taught since birth that marriage is what makes them valuable. Plus The red pill endlessly lies to men about women 'stealing their children and wealth' even though that by in large doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:41 PM
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Lol. Having sex with women doesn't destroy a man's brain, not having sex with women does. It fulfils their basic biological needs and boots their confidence. Yes it does, increases likelihood of cheating, divorce, decreases marital satisfaction, etc. Men who need to fuck random damaged women to gain 'confidence' are absolutely pathetic. I do. Because I'm right. You don't. Because you're wrong. All else being equal, women will choose a sexually experienced guy over a virgin guy almost every time.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:31 PM
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Yes, it is. To which the male sexlessness rate is a testament to. No it isn't, you getting STDs and meaningless, hedonistic temporary pleasure which will destroy your brain in the long run, congrats. Nope, women do. What women find repulsive is virgin and inexperienced men, and men who can't get women to have sex with them. If women were repulsed by men who had lots of sex, those men probably wouldn't be having lots of sex. No we don't, you don't get to speak on our behalf. SLUTTY women are impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:13 PM
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There are, positive consequences lol. Men consider it a compliment-- that they can get lots of women to have sex with them. Getting trashy women with childhood trauma and daddy issues to have casual meaningless sex with you is a compliment? Well okay, good for you! For it to mean anything, men would have to call other men sluts, and mean it, and those men being called sluts would have to care. That's how it works with women (or did, up until recently). You're just proving my point, only other me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:53 PM
2

Well it does if there are consequences behind the insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:08 PM
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You can say whatever you want to justify your degenerate slut behaviour, makes zero difference, you're still a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:46 PM
2

Yes they very much can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:31 PM
2

It was funny tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:37 AM
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It’s short term flings and infatuations. Never had one of those and don't care to. If you don’t have a form of transportation and don’t live in a big walkable city you’re SOL for the most part. I feel sorry for how clueless you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:24 PM
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'LTRs'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:54 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:21 PM
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Source to what? You didn't make any specific claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:46 AM
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It's complete bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:18 AM
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10000% Chad alpha, how do I join the roster?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:27 AM
1

Cool you can date one then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:22 AM
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Need to see that man use his legs or I'm out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:38 AM
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Unless you had the vaccine at 11, you were more than likely already exposed to HPV. Also doesn't get rid of the impact on LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:51 PM
1

Like a man who sleeps around?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:47 PM
2

Ahh nothing funnier than men who are proud sluts Enjoy the HPV and chronic dissatisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:42 PM
2

Agreed, I'm fine with you having him too as long as he has his BIKE
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:40 PM
6

Well I'm sold, clearly a HVM that can provide for my offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:39 PM
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omg pls take me out on a date you alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:45 PM
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it is how it works, your professor to introduce the scientific method is probably crying somewhere. It is what separated the scientific method from faith based belief. Evidence and studies aren't true because red pill man on the internet claims a professor is crying somewhere. This seems legit. because they are. Why would a woman want to date a man who thinks like this? But they still love them, specially in true crime kind of things. Lol. I am sure you too. They still love them... because you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:45 PM
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WHERE ARE ALL THE CHADZ WITH BIKES, NEED A MAN WITH A BIG, DIESEL GUZZLING DANGEROUS BIKE A-
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:29 PM
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You know the science is shit when you can disprove it with a simple test done by a random citizen. That's not how the world of evidence works, sorry. If smoking has been proven again and again to cause cancer, finding a person who smokes and doesn't have cancer doesn't disprove the science. Science is what is reproducible by everyone not what authority say it is lol. No just no, the world will never work like this. You may believe women are not interested in truth, and rather be lied to but I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:27 PM
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don’t have a bike Ngl this made me laugh my ass off. 'Oh my dream man, he's everything I've ever wanted.... BUT he doesn't have a bike so nah' 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:15 PM
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By whom? we do not believe in authority. There have been studies commissioned by various people, groups and institutes that test these theories, and they've been proven to be false. You don't believe in authority, you believe in 'muh feelings' and 'muh personal experiences' We just do everything ourselves. And everyone who tried, including the blue pills here, all agree it works, just disagree on how and why. 'Works' just means 'what you observe' but not actually what's happening. My ex was conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:57 PM
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You couldn't even stop yourself sperging out in a comment section, hence my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:43 PM
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unquestioning ideas or unverifiable results. TRP ideas have been actively disproven, but TRP followers just don't care. (The great majority the basic ideas about women ever since 330 BCE) Sexist ideas about women that advocate for subjugation and benefit men, gee I wonder why these ideas would be so popular? Hell, you can try it yourself, many lesbians and bi women not only agree with us, but use TRP themselves to get it sex with other women, women are still women even if not heterosexual. All y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:41 PM
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Being able to analyze reality in its entirety, talk about it with like minded individuals, strive for greatness and achieve success is exhilarating for people like us. Spoken just like a cult member.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:41 PM
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King's mistress.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:03 AM
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Considering you literally responded 'fuck you' to this comment, I think you're proving the point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:04 AM
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So what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:27 AM
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Can women just be allowed to not want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:10 AM
0

Human- Homo Sapien Autonomy- The ability to do something freely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:17 PM
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Creating words about a particular subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:17 PM
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Yeah that's what I thought lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:56 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:01 PM
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So acknowledging basic human autonomy is the red pill? How is it then that the red pill subreddit lists something completely different?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:00 PM
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TRP is just mating science for bros/dummies What 'mating science'?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:33 AM
1

That could mean absolutely anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:33 AM
1

What is a 'chad'?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:17 AM
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I tried to link to TRP subreddit but it's blocking it for spam. They literally have a wall of claims but with no sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:31 PM
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I never made an argument about women being fat, what the fuck are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:12 PM
0

Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:08 PM
1

Sure: AWALT. Off you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:06 PM
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Respectfully, I fundamentally disagree with nearly every point you’re making and have made and I don’t think I could convince you otherwise. Oh please do, I'd love to know how exactly you can counter prove this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:53 PM
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The millions of men who watch RP content, comment, share their experiences online, guys in real life who say the same shit without even knowing or having ever been exposed to what the RP is. Those men. This proves fuck all. Women do similar things, it means nothing without actual concrete data. Sexual strategy isn’t a yes/no or flat/round question though. There are exceptions and nuances. It’s about generalities not absolute truths like the fucking laws of physics or an either yes or no answer. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:29 PM
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What 'set of facts' are you referring to? TRP is pure conjecture, it's men whining and crying and telling each other they're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:07 PM
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What millions? Have you spoken to millions of men? If the RP was cultural or false, how can you explain that? I'm not sure how to answer a question so stupid, if millions of people see the earth is flat, does that mean it is flat?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:53 PM
1

Which data?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:52 PM
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And she’s done it! Disproven a RP/EP theory by calling it retarded. This is scientifically sound and a brilliant take. Wow. You ignored what I said below it. Aren’t people on the left/feminists supposed to be against bullying/name-calling. Your hypocrisy is too funny🤣 I'm not a fucking leftist lmao, it's hilarious that you people think that anyone who disagrees with you is left wing. Access to resources = ability to provide for a child/pregnant woman. Most women work jobs now, I promise when I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:37 PM
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I've been reading RP Philosophy since Return of Kings was a thing, I'm well aware of what this community of spergs and psychopaths thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:25 PM
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Your research ain't worth shit if it doesn't line up with the real world. The world being... your personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:46 PM
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You just dont understand it. It’s not about weird anecdotal exceptions or your specific social circle. That's EXACTLY what it is because the data does not match up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:36 PM
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But TRP is mostly anecdotes and made up pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:34 PM
1

What reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:34 PM
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Acting cold and distant deliberately to create attraction or chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:40 PM
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What are you talking about? I said MORE egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:28 AM
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Tried to use 'dread game'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:23 AM
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This is a retarded black and white autistic way of thinking. 'Access to resources' is the weirdest way to say makes good money ever. In more egalitarian societies, women tend to go for men who make less vs those in unequal societies. Since women are still expected to do most of the labour and childcare, it's obvious why men end up earning more in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:15 AM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:01 AM
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Literally name any one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:01 AM
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Please explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:00 AM
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Almost every single theory TRP has about women and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:51 AM
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people have differing levels of talent regarding executing certain behaviors So now the behaviour isn't wrong or bad... just the execution?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:50 AM
2

If it's an effective strategy then why would that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:19 AM
1

Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:18 AM
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In my experience, TRP literally stopped my ex getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:57 AM
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If the red pill really is so weak when it comes to proof, then it should be comically easy for you to provide some counter proof and disprove it in a couple of mins and just settle the debate, right? Tons of people do, but redpillers just dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:44 AM
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That can mean anything, plus you don't know how many hours he works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:39 PM
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You're just making assumptions now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:25 PM
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Domestic work is like a full time job, sometimes more. She should do this plus a part time job?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:16 PM
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I think you missed this: 'when I'm at work she literally takes care of everything else as well as working part time.'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:49 PM
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No chance, let him go into the abyss.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/25 09:20 PM
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Honestly I don't have any tolerance for people who inherently hate me because of what I am. You don't exist to convince hateful, gullible men not to hate you.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/25 09:17 PM
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The story has changed again? My point was that pulling decor crap out of the attic is a (small) part of the total weekly workload of the house He decorates every week now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 06:34 PM
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If you're in the house with someone and you only have to pay let's say 35 or 40% of your share to enjoy the same access as the other person then you are being compensated for your work. Most women it's 50/50, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 06:04 PM
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yes until we move (why im fixing up the current one to sell) then ill be fixing the next houses problems/things we dont like. the bathtub wont be big enough, the closet will need to be redone, etc Doesn't matter, unless you buy and renovate a new house on a yearly basis, it still adds up to very little. that's one example Again, a task that needs to be done every 5 years at most adds up to a few minutes per month. i have a cleaning lady and take my clothes to the laundry/dry cleaning because iro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 06:00 PM
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Men are paid for the extra work they do, women aren't and they still have less leisure time than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:57 PM
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Dude seriously this is ridiculous. If it took him 16 hours (An entire day) every 15 years (that's a very short life for insulation, most insulation lasts decades) That would roughly translate to 0.76 minutes a week or 5.33 minutes per month of work if we divided it like that. 5.33 minutes a month vs cooking food which takes hours a day or at least 1 hour a day if you batch cook. The items he mentioned ARE infrequent afterthoughts when it comes to the who does more invisible labour debate because…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:57 PM
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Most women work as well as do labour in the house, so you're just side stepping the point again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:46 PM
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Gotta say I don’t really agree with you here. These tasks are definitely seasonal and one-offs but despite their optionality, they are household labor that the household has (jointly, I presume?) agreed to add to the list of things that must be done. We could just as easily argue about whether or not dusting or grass mowing needs to be done (or how often), but it’s pointless. For the sake of labor division it’s fair to just pool all of the agreed-upon tasks and treat them en masse. How does this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:44 PM
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I'm making the point that wanting a partner with a healthy BMI, low body count and a partner that wants children is something women get actively criticised for yes. The amount of times I've heard that I have no right to expect a chaste man and a man who 'has the option to sleep around will and it's unreasonable to expect otherwise' is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:54 PM
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Not really?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:42 PM
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it's not an infrequent thing if you're a homeowner I am a homeowner, this is a ridiculous argument with no basis in reality. my garage has an insulation problem and fixing it is going to require moving all the shelves and all of my tools and her gardening stuff, lawn decor. thatll be a whole weekend day Even if it took AN ENTIRE WEEKEND, you're talking about an entire weekend once every 10-15 years+ assuming you get it done properly and don't attempt a half ass DIY job yourself. a month ago i ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:42 PM
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When you're not in work? Did I really have to specify that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:09 AM
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I have these standards too and I've been attacked for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:28 AM
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I have those preferences as well, I'm not sure they've considered evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:27 AM
0

Then why don't you do more?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 07:40 AM
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On the other side, men often take on physical work or financial labor that isn’t always acknowledged as "helping," especially in households. Like what? Did I miss something? Is furniture being moved on a daily basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 07:38 AM
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Yeah pretty much this, I would've given my ex everything, I adored him because of who he was as a person. The moment he tried to 'game' me, I completely lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:43 AM
2

Well think about it carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:03 AM
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Well if we look at the marriage statistics of women earning more money than men, you definitely in the minority of 16%. (I didn’t look up those figures for dating). Are you too slow to understand why that might be? But the world thanks you sharing your financial wealth with these poor souls. Hopefully you helped them pull up their boot straps so they can better serve their girlfriends in the future. Nope, they're all still single manchildren.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:42 AM
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Since 2019 now, he's reached out to me on every single social media, email address and phone number i had. 6 years and counting, he's now in his early-mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:37 PM
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From the man’s perspective he’s assuming since he’s bringing in more money into the relationship, than she should do more of the maternal domestic duties for our relationship. Every man I was with made less money than me and was a complete manchild that I did everything for. Only one was a higher earner and seemed to actually be capable of somewhat pulling his weight in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:24 PM
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I don't think he would dare considering he brought absolutely nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:18 PM
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My first boyfriend has been single since I dumped him. He could've stayed with me if he didn't treat me like an actual slave, oh well, guess he's sorry now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:07 PM
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I have no idea what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:21 PM
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Most autistic men aren't Isaac Newton, I already said this. Most autistic men are unemployed and have very little romantic success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:47 AM
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So? Literally what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:27 PM
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Ah you doing that thing where you speculate on a person after they die and you have no way to confirm? Also most autists aren't Isaac Newton, not even CLOSE lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:45 PM
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I hope not, those genes shouldn't be spreading.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:26 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:26 PM
1

? I can't agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:25 PM
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Are you saying that a lot of women would be open to a situation where they can be physically polygamous but emotionally monogamous and their man is emotionally polygamous but physically monogamous? Yeah? Do you realize what that relationship would look like? The woman would be having sex with lots of men but not allowed to feel any emotions during that sex (it would be purely for pleasure). Do you think most women are capable of this? Either men and women are or neither of them are. The man woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:52 PM
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A lot of women would be down for the same but in reverse. Almost no one would be okay with 'polygamy for me, but not thee'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:36 PM
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That's not at all what I meant but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:52 PM
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What makes you think women wouldn't also do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:10 PM
0

Ask god about an idea that you've just made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:32 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:04 AM
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I didn't say prefer them, I said I've dated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:59 PM
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A person who believes in the ideology of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:58 PM
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This is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:48 PM
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I had the chance to marry someone who was happy to pay for everything and makes much more money than me. I said no. I'd rather marry a man with nothing at all who isn't a manosphere believer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:42 PM
1

How about if you own a business?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:35 PM
1

I inherited a home from my mother. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:34 PM
1

Weird how I've managed to date unemployed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:32 PM
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both are really comparable No they aren't. Both provide you resources for work and value you give them No, most romantic relationships aren't cold and transactional like this. both have measures you can take in case of abuse (family, police vs. HR, legal system) Not really. At work there's a union and I can get compensation if I'm treated unfairly. They can't really fire me without good reason or offering redundancy. And with years of experience, I'm seen as more valuable to my next employer. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:24 PM
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What was? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:37 AM
2

Who the fuck cares about what 3rd world countries think
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:13 AM
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https://www.psypost.org/new-research-finds-a-sexual-double-standard-against-male-but-not-female-promiscuity/ 'Commonly held belief' is exactly that, an assumption with no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:40 AM
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No it isn't, this is just an assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:37 AM
2

You can check on retroactive jealousy, there are tons of them...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:50 PM
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If there was zero truth in it it wouldn't be as popular as it is. It's popular because of online echo chamber culture, relationships between men and women have never been worse than they are today and some women are just not dating at all anymore. Red pill says being clingy is unattractive to women. Some disinterest appeals more. You claim this is false? Have you heard of attachment styles? Also yeah, by in large this is ridiculous, why the fuck would I want a man who is disinterested in me? Go …
/r/TheRedPill10/09/25 06:59 AM
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There's no truth in it. I actually completely lost the man I loved because of this ideology, it doesn't make women desire men, it makes us lose interest.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/25 06:52 AM
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No, it impacts every single part of your life and you're insane if you think otherwise. Dating isn't charity, no one has to 'give someone a chance' also autism in marriage has horrifically high divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:52 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? Autism IS a part of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:56 PM
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And? In order to date you need people who are actually interested in dating you, that't not everyone else's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:48 PM
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Agreed. Gay people and brown people aren't out here arguing why they should have special privileges anyway so I don't know why you felt the need to make that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:45 PM
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Autistic men aren't owed anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:32 PM
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Doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:43 PM
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Did you read the post? She literally said why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:42 PM
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LOL I don't blame you at times. They really think this shit works. fearful avoidant men are a nightmare, honestly. My ex would rant at me in messages saying noone would want me since I'm a fat stupid old single mother. Ah deliberately trying to lower your self esteem so you stay with them, that old chestnut lmao. B) a year later after I'd started healing myself I started dating again, and I've been with my partner for 6 years. He's not made it past a few months with a woman yet. I don't blame th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:43 PM
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Men don't need to refer themselves in such a way. They just have to know they are the prize and act accordingly. Like my ex did? How did that work out for him? Arrogance and a refusal to pursue in a man in a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:03 PM
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No they don't. Women get turned off and laugh at men who refer to themselves in such a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:58 PM
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Right I'm just going to throw this out there- Have you considered actually trying to explore your sexuality and trying out men to see if you might like them more? Because this shit is gayer than actually being gay at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:48 PM
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Uh what? I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:56 AM
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>There are many monogamous mammals are some even mate for life, even in those situations the male animal is still generally the pursuer and initiator. That's a classic straw man argument. I never claimed there are no monogamous mammals. I never claimed you claimed that. I made the point that even in situations where the male animal sticks around he tends to be the pursuer. By saying that women bring more to the relationship than men, you are exactly one of those people. It's an objective fact, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:23 AM
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When it comes to companionship, the situation is quite different: In many cases, the males ditch the females as soon as the deed is done. No. There are many monogamous mammals are some even mate for life, even in those situations the male animal is still generally the pursuer and initiator. That aside; I think we should stop calling people "the prize" (this means that women also need to take a hard look at themselves here). Women generally do bring more to relationships that men do, but i agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:09 AM
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Having studied statistics heavily in my undergrad, i know how the stats you are saying work. Oh really? Do tell. My personal experience is that women tend to be more emotional Here we go again, I literally JUST MADE this point on another comment. Men think that their personal experience trumps all available evidence. You tell a man that men are more likely to cause car accidents and be bad drivers and this is documented by car insurance companies. What do they say? 'Yes but the 6 men I know are …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:43 AM
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Women in general tend to be emotional rather than emotionally intelligent. False, women DO tend to be more emotionally intelligent and stats back it up. Men love women and women love the package the man brings cause women have a survival mentality. Also completely false, manosphere made up bullshit again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:23 AM
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Yes, please do. My god alright, I'm not even sure if I can dumb this down further. Human men and women are animals, just like other animals. We can see certain patterns in animal behaviour that overlap with humans. Men are generally the ones that initiate and pursue women, this is more than likely a reflection of underlying biology. Also men tend to like the 'pursuer' role and women tend to like the feeling of being 'pursued' We can also see this in gay relationships. Men will very readily go ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:21 AM
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It's complete evo psych bullshit, literally none of it is true. And I know because i've had a man try it on me, I despise him now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:04 AM
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Well, you got into a relationship with one so... He wasn't like that at first, duh! Well, i don't know about the men you date but I am not an animal and I don't live my life like one. Do I really have to spell out the point i was making because it went over your head the first time? I used to believe this but listening to women and watching their behaviour has changed my mind. Ironically, you're proving the point without even realising it. Men think that their personal experience trumps all avai…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:03 AM
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It has helped in some respects. No it definitely hasn't, men with low emotional intelligence thinks it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:56 AM
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Yeaaaah I cba honestly. It's funny because he genuinely thought I'd be blowing up his phone begging for the chance to prove my worth to him because he makes a slightly above average salary now. When I didn't do that, he messaged me after months of silence asking how I was and I ignored and blocked him. Guessing he tried out dating and it didn't work out so he hoped I might still entertain the idea of being with him lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:54 AM
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Yeah he was but the point stands, men with this mentality are beyond stupid. In EVERY single species of mammal (aside from 3) male animals are the ones courting and pursuing the female animals. Women are much more in demand than men and men are more desperate to be with women than women are to be with men. Women can do pretty much all the things that men can do and they often are, they can earn and pursue careers like men. Men still can't become pregnant and give birth. Women also tend to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:51 AM
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No, my ex started listening to manosphere podcasts and instead of communicating, decide to deploy 'dread game' because he thought it would make me respect him. He started making more money and suddenly had this 'earn me and prove your worth to me' mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:43 AM
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This delusional thinking ended my last relationship. The manosphere truly is a curse on this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:36 AM
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Wrong. Women work less hours than men because they do the bulk of the domestic, unpaid household labour. Also the childcare and elderly care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:52 PM
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And why do you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:37 PM
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Use your brain, do you think there might be a reason for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:37 AM
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No he isn't, not at all. Women are overwhelmingly supported in society by men No they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:55 AM
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This isn't making the point you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:47 AM
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Wow, you sure showed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:15 PM
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What did you JUST say?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:07 PM
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LOL well most women aren't attracted to sluts, you're completely off the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:53 PM
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What is an 'asshole'?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:44 PM
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Domestic violence benefits women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:42 PM
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As opposed to what? Force men into changing? Use violence to get what they want? Non violent resistance is effective and ethical and safe, isn't it obvious why they'd choose this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:42 PM
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but women's assumptions are so objectively true they can see through any amount of time and space I never once made such a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:11 PM
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Are you a strong, independent women or uwu wittle brainwash victims who can't make your own decisions? A person can be financially independent and make their own decisions, and people are also heavily influenced by the culture and environment they grew up in. Most people with above lukewarm intelligence will realise there is no contradiction here. Also that was exactly the point I was making, women are desperate for marriage because the point has been reinforced for years that they're worthless …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:11 PM
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Your feelings aren't a reflection of reality, I cannot believe how many men need this to be explained to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:12 PM
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Yeah that's not really true. Generally speaking society in general is negative towards women who aren't partnered over a certain age. A few female influencers online pushing back against this isn't the same as societal pressure overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:16 PM
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Really simple, because women are brainwashed from a young age into thinking unless they are married by a certain age (25-35 depending on culture) they're worthless and no one will ever love them. That's pretty persuasive marketing, until it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:03 PM
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Preferential hiring against men. Scholarships just for women but none for men. Proven teacher bias against men. Destruction of mens spaces Can you give stats for this? "Kill all men" "yes all men" "I choose the bear" There are women advocating for all men to be killed? You know the choose the bear thing is a response to women not feeling safe around men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:53 PM
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What are you actually talking about? Also what popular 'feminist content creators' are teaching women to abuse men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:34 PM
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Except it's not the same at all, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:28 PM
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They're just self selecting out of the gene pool and out of loving relationships, best to pretend they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:16 PM
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Women don't want to stay with a man because he 'can't attract an younger woman' so chooses to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:15 PM
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There isn't one lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:08 PM
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Yeah I have to say when I found out about the manosphere and how many men now watch/subscribe to it, the 'white picket fence' life of a husband for life and kids lost almost all of its appeal to me. No point in putting time/money/effort into a situation where you'll be punished no matter what you do. Much better to work on other things that have a much greater ROI. This is my comment. men are incapable of being good husbands and will punish you in relationships regardless of what you do. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:49 PM
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It's misandry to believe men are incapable of being good husbands and will punish you in relationships regardless of what you do. Yet I never said this, you might want to actually respond to the comment I wrote rather than the thoughts in your own head. Women are just as bad in relationships. Where is your evidence of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:57 PM
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Please explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:23 PM
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I had 2 men propose to me in the past and said no both times. Keep coping with your made up scenarios about a person you know nothing about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:13 PM
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Although the least you can do is keep your misandry to yourself LOL, can you point out the 'misandry' in what I said? The least I ask of incels and femcels is actually follow through with your antisocial behavior. How exactly am I a 'femcel'?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:09 PM
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Feel free to point out with sources how it isn't true. You made the claim, it's on you to post your sources and evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:04 PM
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Yeah I have to say when I found out about the manosphere and how many men now watch/subscribe to it, the 'white picket fence' life of a husband for life and kids lost almost all of its appeal to me. No point in putting time/money/effort into a situation where you'll be punished no matter what you do. Much better to work on other things that have a much greater ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:39 PM
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men, you sign a contract with womrn with half your stuff on the line, including access to your own kids Except that's not actually what happens, this is just men posting the same bullshit lies online and believing it because men don't bother to fact check anything. and in case of divorce men's suicide rates go from 3.5x women's suicide rate to 9x women's suicide rate, but women are entitled to just leave whenever they feel like it, take half your shit, your kids, and your house, and you just got…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:26 PM
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Yup lmao, and they'll continue to fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:25 PM
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They know scarcity breeds desire. The fact that you people actually believe this my god, it's in equal parts laughable and insane.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/25 01:21 PM
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No woman wants a man that is staying out of duty vs a genuine desire to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:13 PM
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> He's literally a top 1% celebrity and even then he looked better when he was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:47 PM
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him and gave him kids he will honor the deal and stay with her. Ah yeah, staying loyal to your wife out of obligation than desire. You make it sound so appealing, why aren't more women thrilled by this prospect?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:43 PM
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So why bother? Why not just do something else as a woman? Seems like a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:42 PM
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No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:39 PM
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That's exactly how the redpill started. Early 2009 and onward from forums like SoSuave and other PUA forums. Trial and error from 1000s of men. Biased, anecdotal perspectives aren't evidence. There are a plethora of studies that show Red pill tactics don't work, at best they might get temporary trauma bonding from anxiously attached women, but that's all and it's hardly something to aim for. Of course some people will be mad they were lied to. Wouldn't you be upset as well? If you choose to beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:27 PM
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Can't really blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:00 AM
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I tried to respond but it looks like the comment is being blocked. But essentially, you're way off the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:21 AM
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Men could try being nice, kind, caring, funny, improving their appearance and being attractive to women. Instead of you know, hoping to force one into a marriage out of economic necessity like the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:38 AM
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He trashed the apartment we shared, pushed me into a door and called me a 'bitch', told me I was 'too nice', told me I wasn't beautiful, alternated between calling me 'too fat' and 'too skinny', tried to message and set up dates with Russian instagram models while we were still together, and was on tinder looking for a replacement a week after I broke up with him after he begged me for hours to take him back. He also had serious hygiene issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:38 PM
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Okay so to be clear: My ex was extremely kind, gentle and caring, had plenty of friends (both men and women), creative, loved painting. He was 5 ft 7 and pretty skinny. He only had 2 girlfriends before me and really wasn't very physically attractive. Was I 'doing it right' here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:04 PM
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Are you autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:02 PM
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How is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:45 PM
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Women dump men who behave like this, they literally become the fish that people keep throwing back into the pond, hence every woman seems to have dated a man like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:45 PM
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and likely kept making Jabs at him you don't even recognize Nope, I became a complete doormat in that relationship, he just got worse and worse over time until he became violent. But nonetheless, either he is entirely psycho and revealed himself over not wanting to clean up his mess at that moment I don't think he was 'psycho' he had severe untreated ADHD and without actually living with him, no one really suspected he had it. There's literally a term 'masking' for when people hide their neurodi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:44 PM
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If someone makes a deal that's too good to be true, most the time it ain't. Specifically love bombing, promises of long term prosperity with constant excuses long term with nothing to show for it other than cheap flowers that die off by the end of the week etc etc. And yet, that doesn't always happen. My ex was extremely kind, gentle and caring, had plenty of friends (both men and women), creative, loved painting. He was 5 ft 7 and pretty skinny. He only had 2 girlfriends before me and really wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:37 PM
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Woman, if I say that's on you for choosing and staying with a scammer do you honestly think the best rebuttal is the equivalent of, "So, a scammer/s aren't responsible for their behavior at all?" Followed by, "How do you 'choose' a non scammer?" This is a completely different situation. Are men responsible for their behaviour or not? wisen the hell up, don't wear rose tinted glasses duh and also fools ignore red flags and fall for flattery because they choose to. That is vague and meaningless, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:27 PM
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So men aren't responsible for their behaviour at all? How do you 'choose' men who aren't like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:19 PM
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Why do they do this honestly it's so obvious why this doesn't work but they do it anyway 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:05 PM
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Which stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:59 AM
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So because YOU personally aren't like this, the post must be wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:54 AM
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This is bizarre and makes no sense. At what point was the social contract 'work and pay taxes and you'll get women in exchange for that'?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:44 PM
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Because men are more than happy to lie if they get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:08 AM
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Why shouldn't women approach and initiate? Most women are turned off by having to do this. Also men are more likely to feign interest to gain access to sex, makes it very easy if he knows the woman is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:48 PM
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Still don't know what you mean without an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:51 AM
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These aren't stats, can you actually link me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:21 AM
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Any explanation beyond 'dude trust me bro'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:21 AM
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No I mean actual stats, which stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:16 PM
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Which stats and behavioural trends are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:12 PM
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This is strange. Where did you get this idea from? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:18 PM
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How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:05 PM
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How does this work in your mind? Women aren't attracted to traits that are positive traits in a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:16 PM
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So you're saying that not only you want full control over all your actions, you want to also enslave the father? No, I said quite clearly that if I AM responsible for how men choose to behave, then I should be given the authority to punish them to keep them in line. Judges are allowed to imprison me if I commit a violent crime, am I a slave? I mean, yeah, that's what owning a person as property means, but I'm not sure I understand your logic from "women need more control" to "women should enslav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:28 AM
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This has literally nothing to do with any point I was making, this is just a rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:19 AM
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You have full control over who you get in a relationship with. You have full control over whether you fall pregnant or not. You have full control over whether you continue the pregnancy or not. You have full control over whether you keep the child or not. In none of these scenarios I can control the behaviour of the father, none. I can't control if he cheats, starts abusing me, decides to leave. Which is the point, if i'm responsible for his actions then i need power to enforce consequences for …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:18 AM
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Yes but if you actually use your brain, you'll understand there are multiple reasons for this and this has no bearing on the argument you're making today.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:13 AM
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Most men and most women reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:00 AM
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unwilling to take responsibility for the significant control that you already have? What do you mean? If you did take such responsibility, you would find that it would accord you even more control. Again, what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:05 AM
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No, I meant full control. If we are fully responsible, we need full control.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:19 AM
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Are you dense? Can you see the point I was trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:38 AM
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If women are responsible for mens actions and behaviour. Then women should have control and authority over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:49 AM
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Essentially 'Mens behaviour is actually the fault of women, men aren't really responsible for anything they choose to do'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:22 AM
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You're pathetic and the whole world is laughing at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:23 AM
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Nobody fakes "emotional abusive power", That's not what I said is it. Actually go back and read the sentence again. Long term has always been the easiest for me. Sure, everyone totally believes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:15 AM
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This is stupid because women generally don't 'chase' men. Also you're 'red pill' that's going to be a huge part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:54 PM
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Oh I certainly do, man. Red pill goes for the knowledge needed to get women, and they do get women. Faking social skills and emotional abusive power play to get women doesn't work, especially not long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:45 AM
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I wouldn't date someone red pill lmao, most women won't. That's precisely the reason they turn to the red pill. Normal men don't seek out dating advice from chronically single 40+ year old childless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:07 PM
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Most men who follow TRP are mentally unwell, neurodivergent or have some kind of serious handicap or a combination of the above. This won't be fixed by following dating advice designed to attract damaged women with low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:53 PM
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“Reporting abusers” goes to the police My friend was raped by a guy she briefly dated. She had bruises all over her neck and face, a massive swollen lip and a voice message of him essentially 'taunting' her afterwards. She went to the police, heard nothing for months. Then got a letter saying there 'wasn't enough evidence to convict him' and the case was essentially shelved. Almost 5 years later, the police come round to her house and ask if she'd be willing to give evidence against him in court…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:48 PM
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Then why put in the effort trying to find out about these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:39 PM
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No they don't? That's what they're trying to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:16 AM
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It was an extreme example meant to illustrate the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:50 AM
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It is about ignoring boring safe men My 'boring, safe' ex pushed me into a doorframe, threatened me, borrowed money and never paid it back, lied about me to friends, called me 'fat' and told me to 'lose weight' (I was 46kg and very underweight at the time), and trashed our shared apartment multiple times until we ended up with cockroaches all because he couldn't be bothered to clean up after himself. He had a job (very average job), no tattoos, no piercings, didn't do drugs, only drank moderatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:55 PM
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Let’s say they’re dating and not together, if he’s sleeping with other women, then so what? Because men lie about this and women want to know. Women have every right to not want to date sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:39 PM
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and date a guy who tells you that he has "earned his ink" and has "DAGO" tattooed across his chest. I swear to god the average woman doesn't even like the look of tattoos, where do you guys make up these fantasies from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:36 PM
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That's stupid. Why would hot men choose to be assholes? Most women aren't going to put up with that long term, it's a poor strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:41 PM
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How can you 'not notice' you were being treated poorly? Like oh a guy punched me in the face but I didn't notice because he had a nice jawline? Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:40 PM
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100%, the men in my family are very good looking and successful, couple are professional athletes. I swear they are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet, they all have long term girlfriends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:40 PM
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This fantasy that only attractive men treat women poorly has to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:08 AM
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I had a guy try to use dread game on me. They 'dread' because they want to feel in control and feel desired. The best thing to do is completely ignore them and give them as little attention as possible, because that's the opposite of what they're trying to achieve. It drives them crazy.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 11:55 AM
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So women vow to love men they don't care about? That means they are terrible people. No, it's not black and white like this. Most women do love the men they're in relationships with, but the push for marriage largely comes from social pressure. This makes them bad people. Until society stops calling women spinsters for being unmarried over a certain age, this will continue to happen. They aren't intelligent enough to question it. Most men and women aren't intelligent enough to question the statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:41 PM
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So they don't actually care about the men they say "yes" to, and they don't want to marry them, but they do anyway? Precisely, a lot of women care more about the marriage than the man. hence they'll stay in relationships with losers for years hoping to get the 'marriage milestone' ticked off the list. Do they have any agency? Of course, but social pressure and conditioning is a real thing and most women aren't disagreeable enough to actually question it, though this is starting to change mainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:09 PM
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Wrong, women are socially conditioned into thinking they're worthless over a certain age if they don't get married. I was desperate to get married as a teenager but when i did my research about it, I realised what a huge scam it was. Rejected a proposal last year. Also women do reject proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:35 AM
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Ironically men are the ones who benefit from marriage, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:22 AM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:54 AM
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I lost the person that I thought was the love of my life this past year for precisely this reason. He'd consumed a bit too much manosphere content and started being cold and distant because he wanted me to 'chase' him. I completely lost interest and blocked him on everything. To this day he still tries to email me from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:29 AM
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I've seen men have full on meltdowns because as a woman in my 20s, I wasn't interested in dating anyone 30+ They struggle if you have a standard they disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:33 PM
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Have you considered trying men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:29 PM
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Can you please link your source lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:24 PM
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There are no tests for HPV in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:00 PM
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Please leave non promiscuous women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:58 AM
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There are tons of negative consequences. Also fine, be a slut, but don't expect a relationship with a chaste woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:11 AM
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I've had a somewhat similar experience to this. Found out the guy I really liked had slept around in the past while I hadn't slept with anyone. It was never the same after that, I felt anger, resentment and disgust towards him constantly from that day on. Eventually I ended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:56 AM
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I never said anyone was. I was making the point that women don't want this and choose men their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:53 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? I never made ANY comment about women being 'innocent little flowers', you just made that up out of nowhere. Yes, women are free to date who they want. My point was the don't WANT to date older men and choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:53 PM
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But women don't prefer it, you don't seem to get it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:08 PM
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Please give stats for women who are having 'short term flings' with old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:52 PM
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If women like older, then why don't they date older?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:40 PM
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Women keep telling you guys that we don't like older men but you just whine and scream how that isn't true because of a random anecdote pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:01 AM
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How many people have you slept with?
/r/TheRedPill02/07/25 11:37 PM
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Nah, if it's that hard to find someone who meets the literal bare minimum criteria i don't see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:44 AM
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i have a hunch that she forgot to mention tall handsome charming socially competent and well-off. maybe not all of those things but at least 2-3. You do realise that just the criteria i listed rules out 97% of men outright. the only tough ask on her list is not watching porn. Men would literally do anything but stop being whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:42 PM
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Pretending to be bad at something to avoid having to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:19 PM
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Inattentiveness, lack of impulse control, weaponised incompetence, chronic unemployment, tons more?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:15 PM
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The 66% divorce rate and problems that it causes in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:41 PM
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Which country are you from? A Northern European one. 3% would still be a significant number. It's literally a needle in a haystack. This criteria isn't very high at all, you can be unemployed, living in your parents basement, overweight and with massive debt and STILL meet the criteria. If I wanted someone with a job and basic life skills, it would drop further still. I think most men fail the "no watching porn" criteria. 62% fail on that but 65% fail on promiscuity. Statistics won't really take…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:16 PM
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'There are plenty' No lmao, no there aren't. I literally plugged the numbers into chatgpt and based on all studies and crossovers, only about 3% of men in my country actually meet this threshold. Meaning 97% of men are ruled out of bare minimum criteria alone, that's not even accounting for things like compatibility. Maybe you just weren't physically attracted to them or you didn't find anything interesting about them. Nope, this is ridiculous. I've had relationships in the past where I was phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:40 PM
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It's nothing to do with a vastly different worldview. It's the matter of fact black and white thinking of 'The whole thing hinges on men and women having innate sexual natures and behavioral patterns.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:37 PM
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You are joking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:38 AM
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This is so dumb lmao, who cares about that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:51 AM
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Minimum: - No autism/ADHD/serious mental disorders - Less than 3 years older in age - No heavy drinking/smoking/drug use - Slept with less than 5 people - No serious criminal record - Not severely obese/underweight - No watching porn - Not an Andrew Tate/Manosphere follower I gave up looking a while ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:32 AM
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Are you autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:31 AM
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Any woman who chases a man who pushes her away is beyond pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:46 PM
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Funny, my ex said something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:11 AM
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Don't care, any woman who responds to this shit is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:10 AM
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Women value men more, when they can actually lose them. If you can't afford to lose her, you are worthless to her This manosphere princess syndrome is one of the worst snippets of advice ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:38 PM
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Had one like that too. First big fight, and within 10 minutes she has already called her ex and had him come pick her up from my house. That's pretty based lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:36 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:35 PM
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Imagine having self esteem this low
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:34 PM
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Nothing in life can keep someone happy forever. I don't think women enter into marriages with the idea that it will be eternal bliss and no difficulties. Marriage has always been work. Well if stats are anything to go by, for women marriage is nothing but work and a lot of men see marriage as 'time to put my feet up since I've got her now' That's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:07 PM
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Why did it seem like she had 'huge issues'?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:57 PM
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Which is odd because they are the ones who want it the most. Because marriage is sold to women as a 'happily ever after' when the reality is far from it. Women overwhelmingly lose from marriage and hopefully more and more women see this and wake up to the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:50 PM
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