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Money does not equal status. It's the application of money that leads to status. I don't understand this. Please explain? Take one example: a pastor might have higher status for some people than a finance guy, despite having far less money Talk me through which of those two has objectively higher status?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 04:00 AM
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So … someone can't smell nice? Have a beautiful voice? Feel warm and soft to the touch? Taste good when you kiss them? You experience the world entirely through your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:37 AM
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Status is objective? To give a couple of examples: a pastor might have higher status for some people than a finance guy, despite having far less money an indie film maker might have higher status for some people than Michael Bay, because Michael Bay's films are critically panned almost any published author has higher status than Dan Brown
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:35 AM
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I need to align what you're saying about attractiveness with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:20 AM
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You are correct because there is only one type of celebrity and they all look alike. Oh, wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:19 AM
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I know what they are. I want to make you think for a second, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:09 AM
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Do me a favour? List for me the five senses we were all taught about in elementary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:05 AM
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First of all, I'm not posting my views. I'm posting the views of one of the world's most famous and popular psychologists. Secondly I'm not sure you've really read the quoted text. The argument is that there are irrational factors in human relationships, and they're not outlying factors or statistical anomalies, they are fundamental. Human romantic relationships need to be irrational, in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 12:48 AM
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People here talk a lot about the marketplace, and specifically talk about it as if it were rational and the criteria were objective. I've literally been told in the last 24 hours that human interpersonal attractiveness is objective, not subjective. Pinker, via Frank, is making a strong case that not only is it not rational, that the irrational aspects of it are fundamental, not peripheral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 12:18 AM
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The most attractive men Once again, we're taking "attractive visually" as the whole of "attractive". The women in that study looked at still photos of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:36 PM
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I don't know how to respond to that, because it's so obviously wrong. How do you objectively judge attractiveness? With software? A tape measure? OP's question essentially asks "how does the human race survive?". People keep reproducing, despite the fact that the average person is supposedly "unattractive". Clearly there are other factors involved, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:25 PM
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Nobody knows what you're thinking of by "obesity", of course, but in many countries and cultures even within the USA, clinically-defined obesity is absolutely more attractive than a slim figure. It even makes sense in an evolutionary psychology context. Child-bearing hips and so on. Five seconds looking at porn websites will demonstrate this if you don't want to take my word for it. But even if we assume you're right, someone can still have a romantic relationship with someone obese because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:01 AM
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You must be replying to someone else's post. My post makes some detailed points and you don't appear to be responding to them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:38 AM
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You are making a fundamental, categorical mistake which a lot of people make. You are focusing your ideas of what's "attractive" on visual characteristics only. And also making some bizarre miscalculations about what proportion of people are "attractive", and also making some strange assumptions about what "attractive" means. To sum up: People aren't only attracted physically to each other: they are attracted in multiple ways Physical attractiveness is highly subjective: what's attractive to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 04:01 AM
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social status is affected by how good you are with girls What about people who don't see "being good with girls" as a skill and who just naturally interact with both boys and girls in a friendly and positive way? Interacting with girls isn't a sport or a game. It's part of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 03:38 AM
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Often, yes. Or she owns her own small bookshop, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 05:08 AM
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The clumsiness this is often talked about. Becky must be likeable, right? But she must also be competent and high achieving. She's a graphic designer or something and she's successful. Lots of people in the audience who work in Walmart or whatever wouldn't like Becky so much if she were perfect, because she would then have a better life/higher social standing than them. So you have to give her a flaw. It's not going to be any serious medical or mental condition, too sad. So she's clumsy. This al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:39 AM
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If her parents are happily married, your risk of divorce decreases significantly, and I'd bet her risk of infidelity decreases accordingly as well. You took a big leap in the middle of that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:50 AM
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I think you mean /r/badhumananatomy/ although bad-human-autonomy would be an interesting sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:34 AM
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Obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:49 AM
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Well what do you expect the defense in a crime to do not defend him? There are different ways to defend someone. Some count as "rape culture", some don't. This isn't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:17 AM
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People sometimes do use the metaphor of someone who leaves their purse on a bench, or walks at night in a "bad area". Leaves their car unlocked with the keys in it. I guess anywhere there are men is a "bad area"? But seriously, to talk like that about economic crime and crimes of sexual violence as equivalent is really wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:13 AM
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Let's say we agree with you. He made bad decisions, she made bad decisions. He paid for his bad decisions, obviously. OK, so we wave our magic wand, and now the world works the way you think it should work. You're the judge. How should she pay, or be made to pay, for her bad decisions? Hand down the verdict for us. She should be made to __________ ? She should be prevented from doing __________ ? How does her "taking responsibility for her actions" actually work, in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:53 AM
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Do people always have to take responsibility for crimes committed against them? Give us an example of a victim of rape/sexual assault who doesn't bear any responsibility, just for comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:49 AM
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No idea what you mean by "That's your reaction, not the reaction of the media and culture.". If he had committed his crime, admitted guilt, been sentenced all without incident, it wouldn't be under discussion. But the defence/mitigation hearing stuff was prime rape-culture. He's not normally like that, he's a good boy, he has a great career ahead of him, this was a momentary lapse which shouldn't ruin his life. All that is rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:47 AM
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Part of the reason there was such a strong reaction in the Brock Turner case were remarks to the effect that a promising athlete shouldn't have his future compromised for "a few minutes misjudgement" or whatever it was. So, not encouraging, but without question condoning and excusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:59 AM
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why would any girl choose to give me a chance? Human attraction isn't rational. Neither women or men think like robots, assessing mates on objective criteria. There might be a little of that, but there's still a huge irrational, subjective component. In other words, you're thinking about this all wrong, and it's probably affecting your confidence so much you've made yourself unattractive for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:17 AM
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Show us an example of a woman who says she "hates men because they're more likely to commit crime"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:44 AM
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Just to be clear, every online community for lonely men gets taken over by feminists who prevent them from discussing their loneliness? Or just on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:32 AM
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Slut-shaming is about condemning women for having casual sex, ever. It's a weird binary view of the world. Someone is either a slut or they're not and once they behave like a slut they're "fallen" in some bizarre Christian-derived view of the world. People are allowed to have casual sex. People are allowed to have long-term committed relationships. Most people have phases of one, then the other. Slut shaming and nice-guy syndrome are two sides of the same coin. They're both about men telling wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:27 AM
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My point is that even if she did those fairly unlikely but not impossible things, OP would still be disappointed because of the sex thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 06:40 AM
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You're not OP, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 06:39 AM
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So, women's only value to you is their sexual value, even if it's your own daughter? You regard your investment in a female child as wasted the moment she has sex, because she has no more value after that point? She could cure cancer, bring peace to the middle east, be president, but you're at home sulking because the fact that she also had sex has reduced your standing in the world as her father?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 06:30 AM
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If such a shift in the gaming industry, which is beyond Google's control, results in such a downtick in women entering computer science, that shows that there are fundamental differences between men and women How, exactly, does it show that? Show your working, in other words. Follow that line of thought in more detail. When there are differences in outcome for men and women doing a certain thing, "fundamental differences" is certainly one explanation, but there are about a thousand other explana…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 01:23 AM
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Full article can be read here. Uh, where?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:41 AM
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So … not "only 20% of men have offspring", now it's 40%?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:20 AM
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All these match almost perfectly: 20% of men have 80% of sex/offspring. Source? This has varied very widely throughout history, and sex and fathering children don't match up either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:04 AM
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… to the detriment of their own interests? Because people nearly always have some motivations in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:11 PM
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Thanks, that's very interesting. The blue pill is just "what all the other people believe"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:10 PM
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Actually that's an obscure, ambiguous and metaphorical way to describe it. Do we mean the lyrics of the national anthem, or "Every Breath You Take"? Those are vastly different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:08 PM
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Would you walk around a high crime rate area at 11:00 PM alone covered in clearly expensive clothing, accessories etc? If you do get robbed, it is not your fault entirely, but you need to take some partial blame for it. If this were true, this would actually be a defence in a court of law. The guy who pulled a gun on you, threatened your life and punched you in the face because you took too long getting your wallet out would be able to get a reduced sentence, based on your being in that place at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:45 PM
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I'm seeing a lot of upvotes for more complex psychological explanations, but here's mine: for fear of violence. Women are afraid that a man will physically attack them if they reject their advances that directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:23 PM
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Any story in the Daily Mail should be inadmissible, sorry. You may not know this but it's essentially a supermarket tabloid and they just plain make stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:24 PM
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How does this question even come up unless you go around telling people you get off on degrading sexual images of women? Which I guess you just did by posting this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:41 PM
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One obvious reason why men in that situation are disrespected is, if a literal sexual marketplace becomes a possibility, it changes the value of everything and everyone in the figurative sexual marketplace completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 12:03 PM
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If you don't want to date a woman who's been a bit promiscuous, that's fine. Although "riding the cock carousel" is both gross and ridiculous. But the Nice Guy doesn't reject women on that basis. The women have already rejected him. Nice Guys sit on the sidelines judging the women who don't want them, and telling them they they should want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:52 PM
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Nice Guy Syndrome is a form of slut-shaming. Nice Guys think that women should want intense, obsessive relationships with guys who "treat them like a princess". But in fact women, just like men, sometimes and at some stages in their lives, want shallow, sexy relationships with men they don't particularly care about, and who don't particularly care about them. Women don't "like assholes". They choose to date a variety of men in a variety of ways and they have the right to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:24 AM
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I live in a place where prostitution is legal, and I can tell you that many women do it because they need a job with flexible hours where they can earn money quickly. If you had the choice of working 6 days a week in McDonald's, or one day a week in the sex industry, and both paid the same, which would you choose? So they may not earn big money doing sex work full time, they might make a living wage, doing it one or two days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 01:03 AM
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This is the correct answer. It doesn't actually happen. Not sure why this isn't the top answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 05:40 AM
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he has a big social circle of both genders Then he should ask them. They know him in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:25 AM
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OK, I'll go along with the joke, why do you believe that gay bars serve stronger drinks? Is this something you think is generally known? Something you've determined for yourself?
/r/seduction18/02/17 08:30 PM
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Why are drinks stronger in gay bars than in straight bars?
/r/seduction18/02/17 12:58 PM
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