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Field ReportFlanneryODostoevsky/r/seduction23/12/20 02:28 AM
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-2

Quality post right here.
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:40 PM
2

Also easy to forget that rejection is the norm.
/r/seduction05/04/22 08:55 PM
0

Man hell naw I ain’t doing all that.
/r/seduction05/04/22 06:31 PM
-7

Call them a fake and unfollow them.
/r/seduction04/04/22 05:32 PM
0

Really don’t even matter anymore.
/r/seduction04/04/22 05:30 PM
2

Guys are all too easy to turn on. I’d guess that someone asking how to do it just hasn’t done it a lot which is probably a good thing but it’s just not common to hear the question asked.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:12 AM
0

Hard to believe. Guess we all somewhere different in life.
/r/seduction04/04/22 06:53 AM
2

Lol what? How old are you?
/r/seduction04/04/22 06:46 AM
22

As much as I know about boot camp, the point is to just give you tons of opportunities. From what I’ve seen, few real successes are a result even then. So I’m a smaller town with fewer opportunities the successes are gonna be fewer. I’m in la and I regularly have to remind myself that even with all these females out here, unless I’m approaching hundreds a month, or at least like 10 a day, I’m not gonna have much success here. So be patient with yourself and keep trying when you get the chance. E…
/r/seduction04/04/22 01:21 AM
1

Tell them that trauma they running from is gonna in ruin sex for them.
/r/seduction03/04/22 05:02 PM
4

Because they’re confused and ain’t shit you can do about it
/r/seduction02/04/22 09:18 PM
3

Do things you value and get better at those things so that you can also enjoy them more and more.
/r/seduction02/04/22 06:56 AM
5

Try asking them out sooner and base your idea of a date in something they mention in their profile, have in their pictures, or something that comes up in conversation. And of course don’t rely on it. If you rely on it it will fuck with your confidence and have you thinking there’s no one for you. That’s a lie.
/r/seduction30/03/22 09:25 PM
1

See that’s what’s funny too. If you never had to tell someone not to talk about your loved one, you’d never understand why a real man would stick up for his woman.
/r/seduction30/03/22 08:42 PM
1

For real. But it’s also this subwhich def has a lot of toxic dumb shit floating around.
/r/seduction30/03/22 08:41 PM
3

Wtf. They’re married and Smith grew up watching his mom be abused by his father. This why the whole simp concept is stupid. Acting like dudes being good to their woman is a sign of weakness is precisely why so many men end up mistreating women.
/r/seduction30/03/22 05:11 PM
2

Tell her she’s a flake and move on.
/r/seduction25/03/22 07:25 PM
1

The comments here got me dying https://www.instagram.com/reel/CbY5VdLAjnU/?utm_medium=copy_link “Jeff Pesos”
/r/seduction22/03/22 04:01 PM
3

I don’t find most of them interesting. I’m in la and it’s too many honestly. Conversation always dries up once something remotely deep comes up. They can’t really talk politics or meaning or philosophy. They just want to talk about things they think are fun or funny. And that gets old so fast.
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:13 AM
2

That’s the only reason to want them and the only reason they also date “hot” people. Their personalities are shit.
/r/seduction22/03/22 02:00 AM
1

He’s got money or something that makes her feel important. More importantly you have to be realistic about this. This isn’t something that’s common so it’s not worth really thinking too much about.
/r/seduction21/03/22 05:28 PM
2

Having a sex tape could very well just mean paying for Sex or both of them doing it for money in the end. And having a kid with whom? You seen the baby mama?
/r/seduction21/03/22 04:58 PM
1

Just to be clear I was agreeing with you.
/r/seduction21/03/22 04:08 AM
3

This is hilarious. Dudes are big liars and also corny as fuck. That’s why I don’t take a lot of game advice on here seriously. Nor do I take it too harshly when guys talk about getting females a lot. They’re either lying or were out there looking desperate and stupid a lot of the time. So I’m good. I’ll just eat this humble pie and be my damn self.
/r/seduction21/03/22 04:03 AM
2

Yea. I remind myself that rejection is the real normal and that I can’t control women, which means I can’t get them to see my value. So if they reject me, I’ll just keep looking for someone who actually will see my value.
/r/seduction21/03/22 03:57 AM
1

Playing guitar in a metal band
/r/seduction20/03/22 04:00 PM
2

It’s more common but it’s not necessary especially for guys that are mature. I’m 33 and I’m real tired of all this kink shit. A lot of these couples are just gonna end up alone or married but unhappy in either case because they got sick thinking sex is about pleasure.
/r/seduction20/03/22 02:20 AM
2

You might need to try getting into different social circles. I’m in Los Angeles and people really do love just talking about pop culture or their diet or working out sports and I get bored by it all. I will say I have grown to like sports a little but not enough to good a conversation about whoever is playing currently.
/r/seduction20/03/22 12:49 AM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction19/03/22 08:33 PM
1

You might be overthinking it a bit. Just go out and try to interact with any girl you find interesting. Hell. Any person also. That way you get out of your head and open yourself up to interacting with strangers.
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:37 PM
1

They don’t have anything else that’s really interesting in their lives.
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:29 PM
3

Bro both those things work together. Part of the solution is dudes supporting each other and seeing we all deal with the same frustrations. Guys as a community need solutions/feedback as wel as sympathy.
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:57 AM
1

Man what
/r/seduction18/03/22 01:47 AM
0

I’m just hoping there’s a draft and most dudes gotta go to war cuz I ain’t fighting for America. I’m gonna get nothing but bitches.
/r/seduction18/03/22 01:29 AM
34

When I say it that’s what I mean. If she seems like she might not be interested, give an ultimatum so you can know whether to move on or not. If they’re interested, take an interest and curiosity in them. It’s not about matching energy tit for tat. It’s about not spending energy somewhere it won’t grow and be reciprocated.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:08 AM
1

Putting yourself in the position more often would help you open up the social part of your mind. The repetition teaches you to be comfortable but it also helps you develop responses or conversation that’s natural.
/r/seduction16/03/22 03:28 AM
11

Just approach more, try to have conversation that is genuinely interesting, pay attention to her language whether physical or nonverbal, and if she seems uninterested then leave that female alone.
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:49 AM
9

Too easy? That’s most dudes and probably most women too. There’s nothing natural about enjoying a conversation and then leaving a person high and dry. If anything, take that shit as a red flag because someone who loses interest that easily probably isn’t very interesting or worth the time.
/r/seduction16/03/22 01:01 AM
1

If you and her are vibing in the conversation say just that and also ask her out for a drink or whatever else you were thinking of doing.
/r/seduction16/03/22 12:51 AM
2

Because dating is in the woman’s favor and they know it. So they just wait and wait until someone perfect in their mind comes along.
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:53 PM
1

Nope. They don’t care either because they don’t have to.
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:52 PM
3

Don’t acknowledge her. That’s what I would do.
/r/seduction14/03/22 01:04 AM
1

The looks don’t even matter that much. When you vibe with someone and find them cute rather than insanely beautiful like a mode or some shit, it’s a bigger turn in in every way to see them happy.
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:40 AM
2

True. That’s why it’s vital for guys to learn to match a girls energy. If she is going to deny the value of your friendship as a key ingredient to a romantic relationship, then walk away from it. Women defend these kinds of decisions a lot but in the long term learn that they’ve missed out on someone who really thought they were special. They waste their time with guys who just want to use them. So be it. There’s a woman out there who needs to be appreciated and will appreciate a nice guy. Go fi…
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:39 AM
5

Be up front with her and tell her your intentions. Ask her what she wants to do.
/r/seduction11/03/22 02:18 AM
1

I’m at the age when I’m just out here matching energy. Oh you not sure? Well fuck it. I’m not sure I even remember your fucking name. Goodbye and have a nice night or day or whatever.
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:46 AM
1

Bro. I don’t even give a fuck anymore. Unless it’s a really solid connection and we really vibe, I don’t wanna pursue a friendship. Those fizzle and disappoint just like relationships so I’d rather just let that person go.
/r/seduction08/03/22 10:46 PM
3

Not in Los Angeles. Lame ass overpopulated city.
/r/seduction07/03/22 08:50 AM
1

I just feel like it’s more that needed to be said. Wasn’t necessarily trying to take away from what you said. Both guys and girls don’t really understand each other especially when it comes to dating.
/r/seduction07/03/22 08:22 AM
4

Big cities are trash. People move there following dreams and only want to be with people who make those dreams seem real. It’s depressing honestly. I’m in la and have had great interactions, made women laugh, had real thoughtful conversations with women who ended up rejecting me for one reason or another, some just taking a break, some dating someone, some dating someone for years and years tho they ain’t married. But good for you. Hopefully it works out there.
/r/seduction07/03/22 02:28 AM
0

I think that's important to remember but it doesn't really change anything for us. This is why rejection just doesn't affect us, once we get to a certain point honestly. There's too many reasons we could feel like a fuck up so we just check out of that process mentally and say whatever. As I've said before, yall are a conundrum. The only hope is if more and more women start approaching us -- otherwise a post like this won't really change much for us.
/r/seduction07/03/22 02:02 AM
10

A mixture of both sexes.
/r/seduction04/03/22 07:12 AM
131

What is this signaling shit? Not being condescending but both y’all have mouths. Why not ask him something? It’s weird to me that women also talk about how hard it is to get guys to approach them. If you’re also not doing the approaching then assume they’re thinking exactly the same thing you are which is stopping you from initiating.
/r/seduction04/03/22 12:33 AM
2

Girls like her look back like former athletes look back. They park and then it’s a shit show when they fall. Plenty of girls like her around. Just let that shit go and remember she ain’t got shit to do with how you feel about you.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:40 AM
0

That’s the point when I just ask them if they wanna meet or fuck if I’m feeling spicy
/r/seduction01/03/22 08:02 PM
1

Suicide is the way to let all those people who took advantage of or disrespected you go on thinking they’re right. Think about how to live your life in a way you want to live it. The world needs every single person who feels like giving up completely. The toxic narcissists that use people — those are the ones the word doesn’t need.
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:07 AM
1

I more so mean horny. But in general if a girl reaches out to a guy she’s more likely to get attention, fuck, or get a date than if a guy is reaching out. You’re confirming this by saying that guys being needy is unattractive.
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:05 AM
1

Still. That ain’t it chief. A guy has to show some kind of vulnerability and the idea is to show the right amount rather than just not caring at all. Moreover the dating game is the way it is because guys are still needy even if they don’t show it. This whole subreddit is about how to get women. Tell me that ain’t needy.
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:04 AM
1

Stop talking like this. When a woman is needy she can get whatever she wants. When a guys need it’s supposed to mean it’s something wrong with him. That’s part of why dudes come in here with fucked up thinking as well
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:33 AM
2

Exactly. Best thing dudes can do is learn to accept the rejection much faster and remember it ain’t got shit to do with you. It’s just a woman who rushed to a conclusion that she decided independently of you.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:32 AM
3

Maybe what you should be doing is saying women need to get better at approaching or initiating conversation with men. You expect us to not be upset? The whole responsibility for initiating everything is on us. Of course we’re upset. We’re tired as hell of having to be so fucking perfect. Also it’s social media. Don’t be surprised when people disagree with you about being social. Put your shot in private and don’t accept random followers like a responsible adult.
/r/seduction26/02/22 02:44 AM
1

Sounds like bad luck mostly. I’d say try to set a day and time instead of asking them but then again I’m currently talking to someone with whom the conversation has been about setting a day and time for like 2 weeks. Granted she wants a relationship but still when they’re interested they just are.
/r/seduction26/02/22 01:47 AM
1

How you know they were down?
/r/seduction25/02/22 05:05 PM
1

Rejection is the first thing we gotta get used to.
/r/seduction25/02/22 04:49 PM
2

Any game that isn’t fun to play don’t need to be played
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:25 AM
-6

Yes. Any dude who says no is trash. Garbage. Basura. Throw the motherfucker away.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:01 AM
2

Assume she’s interested and act accordingly.
/r/seduction25/02/22 06:14 AM
2

You have to understand most ain’t worth your time so reserve your energy for one who is.
/r/seduction25/02/22 05:12 AM
15

If a girl likes you she likes you. You can double text say dumb shit or whatever and she will still be interested. If she suddenly stops talking to you because of one simple thing you did then she ain’t worth your time.
/r/seduction25/02/22 05:10 AM
2

Why wouldn’t you?
/r/seduction25/02/22 03:44 AM
2

Does she stop you while you’re doing it? Mix it into the rest of your time fucking and don’t always ask her or make a comment on it. Just do it. And probably don’t do it every time because you might get burned out by it too. I’d spoil my girl with good head if I had one tho so I know you prolly won’t listen to me.
/r/seduction25/02/22 02:48 AM
1

No. But damn. Why even fuck a guy like that? Damn. Y’all are a conundrum. Some guys would do anything to fuck you knowing you could care that much.
/r/seduction24/02/22 08:53 PM
1

I don’t mean you specifically. It’s just amazing how quickly a man breaks down. Also your original post sounded like you were cold to him. If that wasn’t the case so be it and he doesn’t deserve you but it didn’t sound like that originally. But my only point was that we go through a lot all the time and it can only come out in little moments like this.
/r/seduction24/02/22 08:52 PM
1

Lol women really don’t care what dudes be going through.
/r/seduction24/02/22 04:24 AM
2

Nah bruh. The majority of them women ain’t fucking with the average dude.
/r/seduction24/02/22 03:44 AM
36

That’s partly true. But you don’t get the current dating game where assholes have the most success without women feeding them attention and fucking them. Truth be told it doesn’t always work but now and then it does work for those guys and it’s like gambling. If it’s worked just a few times out of hundreds, it’s hard to tell them they’re not successful. Women need this advice as much as guys. They need to ask guys about who we are, what we enjoy doing, why we enjoy doing it, how we treat our mot…
/r/seduction24/02/22 01:51 AM
1

Nah bruh. That ain’t it. A lot happens. Some marry nice guys that make them happy and some don’t make them happy. Some marry chad types that make them happy and others that don’t make them happy. Divorce can be a mistake as well as an attempt to get out of an abusive situation, and chads are the culprits there, not nice guys. So it’s not simple but it’s not just a series of chad dudes coming away happily after leaving nuts in women.
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:24 PM
1

You got it fucked up if you think women don’t marry chad types and divorce them.
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:11 PM
1

You mean the chad she married and realizes is a dumbass?
/r/seduction20/02/22 06:25 PM
1

Nah not really. What happened is they end up alone and depressed as they age.
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:42 PM
1

She will after she gets tired of toxic mfs running through her.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:33 AM
1

I think weight is the same for guys and girls. Some get weird and extreme but most just want someone who is proportional. I suggest getting some kettlebells and looking at r/kettlebell for workouts. You’ll see a lot of guys in there aren’t necessary sporting a six pack and huge arms or whatever. But they’re in shape because working out with kettlebells helps you acquire gains in functional strength.
/r/seduction19/02/22 10:03 PM
2

Funny that sounds like la too. I mean. I haven’t ventured to bars alone but the general vibe where I’m at is the indie kind of thing while I know exactly where to find all the stuck up females at.
/r/seduction19/02/22 01:36 AM
1

For real. I wish there were women like that here. I managed to get the ig from 2 girls yesterday but neither was American. But both were cute and one had a body dudes in la wild slobber over. Really makes me think about leaving this bitch ass town.
/r/seduction19/02/22 01:20 AM
1

This is partly why I keep thinking about just moving out of la. It’s a hub for women and guys with that kind of thinking. Everyone just thinks they deserve the best of everything. Truth is a lot of these supposedly attractive people have shorty or banal and average personalities that aren’t worth engaging at all. So while social media has built up their egos and even those who aren’t as “attractive” they ain’t all that either. If you look at the women high status guys actually marry, they tend t…
/r/seduction18/02/22 10:23 PM
2

Work on being toxic and in shape
/r/seduction18/02/22 10:06 PM
1

She also dated Travis barker. She’s probably just on a white boy kick. Only thing to learn from him is that women you think are hot will sometimes date a certain kind of guy just out of curiosity. But he’s also probably laying pipe the way she wants it.
/r/seduction18/02/22 07:57 PM
4

Any sport you like, getting involved in your local community with volunteer opportunities, working out or doing yoga, joining any kind of club, going out just to walk and maybe taking up photography so you can take pictures while you do it.
/r/seduction16/02/22 06:11 AM
6

Just keep trying to interact with women in daily activities or while you’re doing your hobbies. The truth is you have had to deal with a lot of rejection (it sounds like) so you just have to focus your energy when rejected and let go of the women that don’t appreciate you.
/r/seduction16/02/22 04:51 AM
1

Mfs be like what do I say when someone asks how I’m doing???
/r/seduction14/02/22 01:13 AM
2

Man if you don’t get the fuck out of here
/r/seduction13/02/22 10:01 PM
2

Life your life. Fuck the bullshit just life it.
/r/seduction13/02/22 06:36 AM
2

Tell her that she seems like a flake and you don’t want to get involved with someone who just disappears like that.
/r/seduction12/02/22 09:34 PM
1

Man it’s alright. Failure is always part of the process. Try to focus on doing things you enjoy and things that are healthy for you. I ain’t even start having success dating til 2018 and I’m 33 now. Don’t let the toxic and idiotic females make you give up. There are girls that want your attention. You have to keep that in mind and leave behind any that disrespect you.
/r/seduction09/02/22 04:03 AM
0

Yea that’s booty but them females are wack too. They don’t realize game is perfected by guys highly unlikely to even appreciate them, so let them learn the hard way.
/r/seduction05/02/22 09:31 PM
1

Reminding myself I really have no choice
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:11 PM
2

You start with something you’re interested in or something you enjoyed before. No one is interested in nothing, you have to start somewhere and as you try things you’ll see which ones you like more than others.
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:10 AM
3

You do. You just have to take time trying things and figure out what you wanna keep doing.
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:30 AM
13

Get involved in certain hobbies you enjoy. You have to spend your time enjoying things to get out of your own head but also to build your knowledge of things.
/r/seduction04/02/22 10:31 PM
1

The whole idea of a scale of attraction is often muddled. Supposedly attractive people will often date, fuck, or even marry supposedly less attractive people. I current obsession with physical attraction is unhealthy and leading a lot of people to unhappy lives.
/r/seduction01/02/22 01:09 AM
1

Because dating isn’t about psychical attraction alone?
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:37 AM
1

Yea but certain guys are more likely to be able to with most women. Y’all like to think you’re being selective but then many of you end up pursuing the same guys. Or letting the same guys convince yyou to tuck or date them.
/r/seduction31/01/22 08:17 PM
1

All that is cool until I have a hard day and don’t feel like some game of who can be more dominating. What many confident women don’t get is that guys aren’t intimidated so much as annoyed. All that shit might have a time and a place but both men and women struggle to learn that life isn’t about overpowering or dominating others. It’s about exchanging between equals and building one another up.
/r/seduction21/01/22 08:32 PM
2

It is when you come from a culture that has struggled to overcome so much and still has a way of life that brings them joy and helps them persevere. Only people with no culture say race isn’t something to be proud of. Race and culture usually go hand in hand but those without any culture don’t see anything to be proud of about their race. I am black and used to be the same way until I realized culture helps us hand down knowledge and habits that help make us better people while acknowledging and…
/r/seduction21/01/22 08:29 PM
22

Dude said he is a brown guy. Say your race dammit and proudly.
/r/seduction20/01/22 03:30 AM
1

Depends on the girl. It rarely turns up to anything but I did just text a girl a few days after no response saying I’m over covid and will see what my schedule is later this week.
/r/seduction20/01/22 01:26 AM
5

Good job my guy.
/r/seduction05/01/22 06:37 AM
8

Was this job market looking this ain’t even a bad idea
/r/seduction05/01/22 04:39 AM
6

Bro dot lose that part of you. Just detach from women who don’t appreciate it.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:19 AM
1

It could work. Or at least starting off that directly and then continuing a conversation to see if these female specimen is worth your time.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:12 AM
29

Lol these fucking questions.
/r/seduction03/01/22 03:57 AM
2

American women yea
/r/seduction31/12/21 11:34 PM
2

Yea I really wonder if I can even possibly find a woman who is comfortable with herself and could be into me in America. Women here are their own worst enemy and they are stuck in their ways.
/r/seduction31/12/21 09:32 PM
2

You can’t. That’s why you have to take your time trying to know him. Think about what is important to you about a guy and ask him questions that help reveal that side of him.
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:54 AM
0

Nope and they don’t care. Partly because they get too much attention and it’s hard for them too but also because they don’t think guys really suffer in any real sense.
/r/seduction28/12/21 10:35 PM
1

Word
/r/seduction28/12/21 08:39 PM
3

You wanted to but didn’t. Instead you just tried to make him look like he’s nothing more than an addict.
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:48 PM
3

Then give your expert advice to him in private instead of acting like he’s a liar for trying to believe in himself. That’s some bullshit.
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:43 PM
5

The fuck is this supposed to mean? Someone with a history of addiction can’t leave that behind? Motherfucker you are trash.
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:39 PM
4

Start by not telling yourself you’re a loser.
/r/seduction28/12/21 05:46 PM
1

Moods stay sleep in this section
/r/seduction23/12/21 07:00 PM
2

The trying gets easier the more you do it. Remember that.
/r/seduction23/12/21 06:34 PM
2

My boy you are 15. Don’t think I’m saying your view of the situation doesn’t matter. Instead try to understand that at your age people are still learning a hell of a lot of things. This is an experience that can teach you somethings like when is a girl into you, what about her do you really like, and how to deal with feeling like there is no one else for you because there is. Right now just focus on other shot you gotta do and try to take an interest in other girls that might have shit in common…
/r/seduction23/12/21 06:19 PM
1

Only here.
/r/seduction18/12/21 10:55 PM
2

No it ain’t. Stop talking shit about dudes getting friendzoned when there are toxic and abusive dudes out here who are way more active and doing way more and worse
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:04 PM
1

Maybe just keep dating him. Maybe guys like that aren’t flirty because they don’t time it right and maybe girls should be more patient and encouraging. Both guys and girls regularly let go of promising relationships just because it doesn’t seem perfect right away
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:00 AM
2

This is really my only advice for guys these days. All guys https://youtu.be/t35rEpCur2E
/r/seduction06/12/21 11:31 PM
5

Leave them on read if there’s nothing to talk about or if they seem uninterested/aren’t agreeing to meeting up.
/r/seduction06/12/21 05:46 PM
1

These days I just wear earth colors. Usually brown and green but also darker shades of things.
/r/seduction05/12/21 10:43 PM
3

This is what happens in general with short term fun. It’s not as new and your ideas or fantasies about what could happen do not happen. So you get disappointed or at least develop a more realistic idea of what’s going to happen. That’s life in general though. It’s why I hate how everything is geared towards sucking the life out of the youth. We get older and all of a sudden there seems like there’s nothing to do but there is.
/r/seduction04/12/21 05:35 PM
-2

It isn’t thoroughly understood enough how confused men are.
/r/seduction03/12/21 09:42 PM
-1

Is this shit ever written by or agreed with by a woman? To my thinking a disinterested guy just doesn’t give a woman as many reasons for caution like a desperate or even interested guy might. Moreover this is not universal. Many women really want to be desired and pursued. They then act disinterested to keep the chase going and get the attention. But any girl going after uninterested guys is a confused girl and probably not gonna be happy with what she eventually gets.
/r/seduction27/11/21 09:21 PM
27

You won’t be boring if they’re interested. The thing about conversations is they’re a 2 way street. They fill in the gaps you leave and when it flows it’s beautiful. When you’re trying to force them to be interested you feel like a dumbass. Stay way from bitches making you feel like a dumbass.
/r/seduction18/11/21 06:53 AM
2

Man all of us do. Let them bitches go.
/r/seduction16/11/21 06:51 PM
25

Very important to realize. Not only does it fuck with yourself esteem but honestly the sex is much better witha girl that actually is into you. Fuck all that other shit.
/r/seduction16/11/21 08:52 AM
1

Give yourself some time. You have a goal now. I too have been too angry and upset in he past. I believe there is a value to it especially in a society which is always swinging back and forth in manic or depressive episodes. It’s hard to say enough about how unhappy people are because all they want is to be happy. But as a human being you gotta take joy seriously too. I’d say focus on being genuine and allowing yourself to look stupid because you said something you thought was funny. Keep doing i…
/r/seduction16/11/21 07:41 AM
1

Same shit different stages.
/r/seduction06/11/21 08:20 PM
0

Aint no one say there wasn't.
/r/seduction06/11/21 08:18 PM
14

Mfs is horny. Aint nothing new.
/r/seduction06/11/21 04:38 PM
5

Dudes talk about men needing to be leaders and then come up with the idea that they can lead by olaying to these weaknesses of women, these moments when they admittedly act not on logic but emotion. The reality of this is that it works so long as a woman decides youre of value yo her. But being a real man would mean not catering to this bullshit and instead being a respectdul and sincere nice guy who is still confident and confortable with rejection, himself knowing that it's probably a woman no…
/r/seduction05/11/21 07:01 AM
5

Oou reason I really stick around here is because I realized all that really matters is that us dudes feel comfortable with being ourselves and that only happens when we feel we have value and things to do
/r/seduction04/11/21 08:46 PM
8

Just enjoy the ride.
/r/seduction24/10/21 02:23 AM
1

Just tell how how she made you feel and. Girls need to hear that more often.
/r/seduction22/10/21 07:59 PM
1

Precisely why i said what i did in my first reaponse to you.
/r/seduction19/10/21 05:02 AM
1

Theres always something a guy could do, and thinking about that can drive him crazy. Maybe you should relax and start trying to understand men.
/r/seduction18/10/21 04:31 PM
0

Just walk away if unless you want to say have a nice day.
/r/seduction18/10/21 01:29 AM
1

Yall females really just come in here to interpret dudes as the worst while never being critical of girls. What if ahe got bored or was just fuckle and said to herself, eh, i dont really like him, and then decided to get her friends to leave? Maybe she was having fun but just got bored. Maybe she has poor taste. Maybe a shit ton of things. Its more helpful to let this dude know he did what he could and she just decided on leaving, so he just has to let that shit be and move on to look for someon…
/r/seduction18/10/21 01:25 AM
2

Anyone who is having shit luck on dating apps id advise to talk to 10 strangers online and then 10 in peraon. You'll see how you feel before you even get to 10 in person. You may not have much success but youll feel much more comfortable in your own skin and to me, thats really why i even look at this section. A lot of men need work on feeling more comfortable for being who we are. Full stop.
/r/seduction13/10/21 08:33 PM
1

People also dont get that sex is can get better with the right person too. Thats apart of building the connection. Thats why its called making love rather than love.
/r/seduction12/10/21 09:43 AM
3

Ho activities. Yes it can work. But mostly it won't. Someyimes you get lucky and the first or within the first few tries of something, it works, but that doesnt mean its a good rule. It means its a coincidence. If you should learn anything, its that so much of this shit ia oure coincidence and you huat gotta keep your head up after you fail.
/r/seduction10/10/21 09:29 AM
1

Whole lot of talking these days about what can happen. I'm talking about what does happen. The most successful people in oir society put their success (in anything) above people, which is why theyre so successful. This is especially true with dating since failures there can really keep you from feeling like youre a valuable person. Many men combat this by deluding themselves into believe they're the shit. And thus, women find them more entertaining. But all that is not to say that there arent ma…
/r/seduction09/10/21 01:40 AM
6

Thats why narcissists flourish in the modern dating world.
/r/seduction08/10/21 07:24 PM
2

Most don't really put in much effort unless drunk or the guy is a poster boy for athleticism. Thats why they end up dating toxic dudes. You juat gotta put in some effort and see who will return the effort with interest. See it as them weeding themselves out.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:17 PM
2

Gotta get used to that kinda bullshit.
/r/seduction05/10/21 04:42 AM
-9

Man what the fuck.
/r/seduction04/10/21 06:21 AM
2

Same. I'm tired of girls who greet away with putting no effort in and essentially having no personality.
/r/seduction03/10/21 01:47 AM
2

I dont find most beautiful women beautiful. A personality canmake a woman many think its average look irresistible to me.
/r/seduction03/10/21 01:27 AM
1

That's as true for guys as it is for women. But what ive learned is that most those who "make it" arent happy with "it." As one writer said a long time ago, nothing aucceeds like the appearence of success. With insta and all these other mediums for mass communication, people devote a lot of time to looking happy but they arent. Look at how many fucking people are poly now. Look at the divorce rate. The suicide rate. How many people cant even truat politicians to make changes in their lives. The …
/r/seduction01/10/21 10:06 PM
3

Because its not creepy to search for a connection with another human being.
/r/seduction30/09/21 06:51 AM
62

Matching their energy is a skill. Develop it. They dont chase because they dont have to and some are more concerned with avoiding danger/threats/creeps than getting to know a guy. Just the way it is. Its absolute bullshit but the only way to change that is if more guys match their energy and leave some of the work to women.
/r/seduction29/09/21 09:05 PM
1

Yes. Whts wrong with trying to understand people? Only toxic narcissists dont care about why other people do the thinga they do. Maybe thats you. If so, i cant relate.
/r/seduction28/09/21 04:51 AM
1

Thats some trashy shit. Good riddance. Any chance youll be seeing her in person? Hopedully not.
/r/seduction22/09/21 07:30 AM
1

Ita more about not seeming preoccupied with it. If you could say it casually then cool. Mpre lile "since we both aint got shit to do now, lets get lunch or coffee" rather than "i know you dont have shit to do now so lets have lunch."
/r/seduction20/09/21 11:17 PM
3

Dont twll her you know her schedule. Just ask her if shes down for lunch.
/r/seduction20/09/21 04:19 AM
1

That edit is real. Be done with someone who isnt putting the same effort into you.
/r/seduction20/09/21 04:00 AM
1

Just becaise theres so many but that also is the reason its so challenging.
/r/seduction19/09/21 01:17 AM
1

Yea but being diabetic, its hard to find substantiated evidence as well as medical advice on doing just that. My sleep is especially fucked if im not taking in some kind of insulin and then if im not eating sugar my blood sugar gets too low.
/r/seduction18/09/21 07:53 PM
3

Not in LA.
/r/seduction18/09/21 02:33 PM
2

Do shit. Have some hobbies that youre genuinely into. Not some shit you think is cool. And read or at least make sure some form of art is experienced on a regular basis. Watching movies or going to galleries or something.
/r/seduction16/09/21 09:15 PM
10

Fuck the technique. Its all about approach women likely to be into you.
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:53 AM
3

This.
/r/seduction15/09/21 07:36 AM
3

Sometimes its just like that. When people here talk about confidence, this kind of situation shows infinitely more than almpst any other situation. Its not confidence. Its comfort, feeling right in your own skin as you are supposed to.
/r/seduction11/09/21 04:23 AM
1

Emphasis on the not becoming narcissistic but still growing part. Good shit here.
/r/seduction11/09/21 01:45 AM
1

Dont really care. Usually I'm sure that I'll have nothing to talk to them about.
/r/seduction09/09/21 08:59 PM
5

Theres no reason for her to talk to you but also no reason gor her to seem excited to talk to you unless shes interrsted in you.
/r/seduction08/09/21 06:48 AM
8

Yall be having problems I wish i could have. Shes clearly still willing to hang out. Make up your mind about where you want it to go.and start taking steps to get it going in that direction.
/r/seduction08/09/21 01:07 AM
3

Yea they want the excitement and thrill of it, but also its just a fantasy and fantasies are all about getting everything you want with minimal or no suffering. I think they tend to be women without much happiness in their personal life, not much meaning. So they imagine a purpose in saving these kinds of guys. Stimulation is certainly part of what they want from that shit.
/r/seduction06/09/21 07:54 AM
14

The older I get the more confidence seems to be the wrong word for what women are attracted to. Its more likely conviction and in the case of those guys, perhaps some brokenness those women believe they could heal.
/r/seduction06/09/21 07:33 AM
7

I thibk the majority of guys who feel that let down by women tend to take it out on themselves unfortunately. The guys who end up hurting women are the ones who, as one woman friend told me, have something women want and exploit this fact. Im not blaming women but i do thibk they need to search for something deeper in men. Too many complain of narcissistic assholes for me to think all the blame falls on shitty men. Moreover, counsel these shitty men all you want. If theyre getting laid, they won…
/r/seduction06/09/21 07:32 AM
3

Their style
/r/seduction06/09/21 01:06 AM
2

As you go to parties and maybe approach or talk to girls, keep reminding yourself youre not weird and that theres a girl that is going to be attracted to you, a girl who also wants what you want. Remind yourself you have spmething to offer beyond sex and try to become better or more knowledgeable in those areas. And then just talk to girls about their interests and your interests, never exclusively one or the other.
/r/seduction05/09/21 04:26 PM
1

Someone said its more about wearing things that fit well. Thats pretty much right. Tshirts that are loose or look like they were bought from a thrift shop tend to make one look like they just threw shit on.
/r/seduction05/09/21 02:47 AM
8

The older I get the more I wonder how women could eant any dude at all. Its toxic females here too but dudes stay on some toxic shit. Its fucking pitiful.
/r/seduction03/09/21 09:47 PM
5

Tom Waits?
/r/seduction02/09/21 01:49 AM
2

Some girls respect that. Others don't care. Match their energy. If she aint responding. Move on and know that you dont deserve that.
/r/seduction30/08/21 03:04 AM
4

Either y'all are enough for each other or not. Going down a rabbit hole of kinks and shit, possibly even becoming nonmonogamous, is just turning the sex into masturbation rather than an exchange between each other.
/r/seduction27/08/21 11:06 PM
6

Lol damn thats true.
/r/seduction26/08/21 07:14 PM
1

Just read W.B. Yeats' when you are old
/r/seduction26/08/21 07:11 AM
0

Dont know about the dont give her a gift part. Ive had some girls say they would have liked a flower once I brought up how I wanted to bring them.
/r/seduction26/08/21 06:46 AM
4

Just say fuck it and dont talk to her anymore.
/r/seduction26/08/21 01:10 AM
2

Buncha lames. Don't listen to them
/r/seduction25/08/21 08:20 PM
1

I dont understand what your goal is then. To tease him? To feel some kind of control? Y'all are a trip. Nvm. Do you.
/r/seduction25/08/21 08:15 AM
1

Perfectly said
/r/seduction25/08/21 07:21 AM
1

Its toxic to fuck a person you cant really stand otherwise.
/r/seduction25/08/21 07:19 AM
4

Sounds like something toxic in the formation.
/r/seduction24/08/21 08:08 PM
1

Seduction isnt something that's sustainable. Commitment is but theres much more to that than sex.
/r/seduction24/08/21 08:01 PM
6

Point out where he disrespected them. He went out looking to make a connection. He talked to some for longer lengths of times than I've enjoyed talking to some people I've known. If you read this and thpught all he wanted was sexual gratification, then you like most women dont really understand men and instead resign yourself to pithy twaddle that will only further the desire many men have to use women for sexual gratification. A recent thread asked why men are so persistent, and another asked w…
/r/seduction24/08/21 04:18 PM
3

Anything can work if a girl is feeling you.
/r/seduction24/08/21 04:05 AM
1

Exactly. Women dont rralize how much power they have. There is no equivalent to this section for women. Show some cleavage, wink, hold eye contact, he'll -- stand in front of a guy and stare. Viola. Hes seduced. But guys have a lot of extra steps. The only chance we have is have the kind of mentality we have here. Well, some of the mentality spoken of here.
/r/seduction24/08/21 04:02 AM
5

Lol who gives a fuck. Game is overrated. You develop game and then dont know how to be yourself
/r/seduction23/08/21 10:28 PM
1

Always feels good to let something go that isn't matching your energy. No sense in having your energy drained like that. One thing i like to point out in many situations is that the Latin root of the word decide means to cut off. So any decision we make, we gotta cut aome shit off. Might as well cut off the ahit that aint giving you what you deserve.
/r/seduction23/08/21 08:13 AM
4

Be genuine in your approach and honest about what you're doing. Just today a woman I approached told me her husband also approached her after she got atood up for a date. Another woman whose hair and clothingni complimented told me she liked my approach. And another told me to that its how people ahould meet instead of dating apps. Basically. Remind youraelf it aint creepy, keep doing it deapite the lames, and eventually youll have enpugh good experiences to remind you of how natural and sometim…
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:22 AM
3

Aleays remember it's a perfectly human thing to want to make a connection with someone else. Youre not a weirdo or creep. Youre being proactive instead of resorting to self hate, violence, helplessness, depression, etc. If someone tries to say you are weird or a creep, point out to them that you're just hoping to meet someone and enjoy their conpany. Also call them a little bee I itch for saying some stupid shit.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:17 AM
1

Just substitute her name in the lyrics of Eminem's "Stan" or "Kill You."
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:10 AM
1

Precisely this.
/r/seduction23/08/21 05:39 AM
128

Because we aren't being pursued.
/r/seduction22/08/21 07:54 PM
1

Ah that sucks. Shows that arent metal then. I was at a punk/post hardcore show last night and there was a decent amount. Shit maybe even try jazz. I think im brainstorming for you as much as me.
/r/seduction21/08/21 06:49 PM
1

I havent really been yo any in la. It makes more sense to just go to a show honestly.
/r/seduction21/08/21 04:10 PM
1

Same. Maybe a metal bar.
/r/seduction21/08/21 03:51 PM
2

So.....they prefer jerk vibes but not jerka.
/r/seduction21/08/21 04:59 AM
2

This is decent advice. Some stuff a lot of guys should read, the emphasis on growth and time this takes is what is really important to take in.
/r/seduction18/08/21 09:27 PM
2

You juat have to work on reminding yourself not to be hurt by people qho dont give a shit about you.
/r/seduction17/08/21 03:11 AM
0

Stop being a little bitch
/r/seduction15/08/21 10:06 PM
11

It can happen but its one of those things likely not to happen. Even the people who respond on here are a minority in a minority.
/r/seduction15/08/21 02:35 AM
2

Theres another side to all of these. A narcissistic side which is the real common factor behind all those that arte most successful inn either area.
/r/seduction14/08/21 09:34 PM
1

Good advice but hard as hell to do work this unending pandemic.
/r/seduction14/08/21 07:51 AM
1

Lol i dont know about 90 but definitely most the time. Its the good interactions that give motivation to keep going tho.
/r/seduction14/08/21 07:47 AM
41

Match her energy. If she seems to be losing interest then move on. Youll get better and it'll get easier as you go.
/r/seduction14/08/21 07:36 AM
4

Hell. Maybe it's just the wrong fish too. You have a point about women being polite and usually receptive to daygame approaches. Ive had the same experience where some have thanked me, been happy to return compliments, tell me to continue doing it, and one said its how people should meet rather than dating apps.
/r/seduction14/08/21 07:35 AM
13

That bullshit finds its way on this sub too
/r/seduction14/08/21 06:58 AM
-1

Your choice of metaphor is telling. Neither do you comprehend the importance of honesty and actually trying to get to know a girl before going on a date with her.
/r/seduction14/08/21 03:13 AM
-1

Why? So your fragile pride wont get hurt?
/r/seduction14/08/21 02:23 AM
3

Goddamn. Some terrible advice. Just what everyone needs to hear.
/r/seduction14/08/21 02:17 AM
3

Damn I dont miss being young
/r/seduction13/08/21 11:47 PM
1

Damn I dont miss being young
/r/seduction13/08/21 11:46 PM
5

A younger Jordan Peterson might have said this.
/r/seduction12/08/21 04:30 PM
3

Word. Keep that energy.
/r/seduction12/08/21 05:49 AM
2

Maybe somewhere in Colorado. Ive heard San Diego is good too. Ive been but only did a few approaches that went alright but didnt turn into anything.
/r/seduction11/08/21 10:41 PM
2

I think it's a big city thing for sure for those commonalities. Ive however heard the Pacific northwest isnt bad at all. I remember a guy here saying it was much easier than la.
/r/seduction11/08/21 04:53 PM
2

Only really been in LA and its absurd. Most women are either stuck up or in a relationship. I find natives are usually more chill but the whole Hollywood and bougie personality trends still find their way into those girls' lives. Ive literally thought of moving just to be around more down to earth women.
/r/seduction11/08/21 04:39 PM
1

Sure. But to go on for like a whole minute...nah. That's not an art. I suppose you were only doing that to show how it can be done tho.
/r/seduction10/08/21 04:52 PM
1

Damn. I really dont want to turn into THAT guy
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:52 AM
2

I approached one woman in a store and she basically told me she was married and me approaching was a waste of her time. Later outside, I saw a girl and approached her but this cockbloxking Karen pops up and says "wow you must be up to something, he did that to me." The hood in me wanted to tell her to shut the fuck up but I resisted. Basically, before you even do it, know youre not a creep. Ive had women tell me to keep doing it and one say its the way people should meet. So know its them being …
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:51 AM
2

I told a girl she was cute and as she laughed she said thank you "but how do you know?" I told her it was a whole vibe basically. You do that and you can start complimenting how theyre dressed and the energy tjey give off. That's more interesting to a lot pf women than simply whether they're physically attractive.
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:45 AM
1

Feel like a group chat here might be easier. I know a few times I was thinking about posting. Im by dtla and been hitting up areas in the SGV or SFV but been avoiding downtown because the smell of urine and paying for parking. But yea, good idea. Npt sure meetup is the beat option tho.
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:42 AM
2

Yea man. Set aome shit up. She might not be reaponsing because you havent asked her to do anything yet
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:39 AM
1

Yea its happened a few times. Its one reason why now I'm just on some shit where I try to match their energy. If theyre intereated in interested. If they are barely saying anything or saying nothing then fuck em.
/r/seduction07/08/21 01:52 AM
6

Not sure if this is trolling orrrrrrr
/r/seduction04/08/21 04:20 PM
1

Excuse my french
/r/seduction04/08/21 02:44 AM
5

Lol man. It aint THAT seriois
/r/seduction03/08/21 08:08 PM
5

Forget her
/r/seduction03/08/21 03:40 PM
1

Yea that's good advice. Personally I'd cut her off and wish a plague upon hervand her first born but eh, different strokes for different folks.
/r/seduction03/08/21 02:37 AM
2

Yes but then again it's a microcosm for the whole dating scene. Women know they have tons of choices and imagine they can get the exact guy they dream of. Whether that means an athletic in shape dude or one with money or one who is ready to start a family, the sheer surplus of guys available lends credence to these fantasies. Guys suffer from fantasies when they use the apps as well but never have them affirmed because were competing with so many other dudes.
/r/seduction02/08/21 07:05 PM
1

All good things take time. I've definitely been doing things differently since i turned 30. Don't let age concern you. Think about what you want to do and make decisive steps towards that.
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:18 PM
1

It makes dudes think they need to put all this effort into themselves for the sake of just becoming more attractive to women.
/r/seduction31/07/21 09:40 AM
1

If ibsee a girl with flowers we're gonna talk about them because I love flowers. Ask her what her favorite flowers are and why. Talk to her to figure out if she's even worth talking to.
/r/seduction31/07/21 01:25 AM
-1

Man this kind of thinking is destructive
/r/seduction31/07/21 01:17 AM
3

Shes not going to stick around long. Im not sure if you're expecting her to. The truth about hookupd is the best you can really hope for is fucking a few times. People tend to ghost or make up some dumb shit after that. Just because its not a hookup one and one yime only doesnt mean its a relationship.
/r/seduction30/07/21 04:41 PM
2

Fax
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:47 AM
4

See how she is on the date. If shes interested on the date then bring it up. If not, forget her.
/r/seduction30/07/21 12:30 AM
2

Im a metalhead too and in my experience most metalheads may be awkward but not mean or arrogant. Dont let that fear stop you, just approach some and you'll see you have nothing to fear.
/r/seduction19/07/21 05:11 PM
1

Why so you fear them?
/r/seduction19/07/21 03:53 PM
1

Guys can be just as if not.more insecure than women. That's ehy I would say.
/r/seduction18/07/21 11:28 PM
1

Yea. I have a friends thats like that and I swear its unbearable. But then again I've input recently gotten decent at noticing it quickly. It's a trip that some guys here will say you shouldn't just accept that and shpuld keep pushing. I'll push now and then but most the time i just let them be of they seem to not be interested.
/r/seduction18/07/21 07:50 PM
1

For sure. I would also suggest thinking about approaching women that at least appear to be interesting to you too
/r/seduction18/07/21 06:11 PM
2

Dont. You and everyone else have qualities about you that another person would enjoy. Try to do just one a day and youll eventually see that some women dI respect and are interested in you.
/r/seduction18/07/21 02:44 PM
1

For real. That's so true. Eiyher yheyrr interested from the jump and its clear or theyre just annoyed/uninterested and thats also pretty clear.
/r/seduction18/07/21 02:42 PM
4

I really just need to do this every day beyond the 7 days of next week. I'm going to a show tonight and wont know anyone so im gonna try it there
/r/seduction17/07/21 11:03 PM
3

Im in la as well. There's some standoffish types but many that are chill too.
/r/seduction17/07/21 11:02 PM
1

Dudes do one thing one time and really think its the key to every thing. Sometimes you accept the rejection and sometimea you push. But telling dudes to just keep pushing because a girl has the wrong idea is gonna send some dudes into a spiral of what ifs.
/r/seduction15/07/21 03:22 AM
3

Ive had multiple women twll me to keep doing it as well as one saying its how people should meet. The ones saying don't do it are tripping. As a guy youll always be this close to being called a creep so dont be weird but dont feel guilty about approaching either.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:16 PM
2

That's what its all about. Experiences like that help deal with future rejections.
/r/seduction11/07/21 05:23 PM
1

No.
/r/seduction11/07/21 12:27 AM
6

This really proves its all about just taking shots over and over. A numbers game and the only skill you can really have is being open to talking to new people as youre being yourself.
/r/seduction10/07/21 11:22 PM
1

Man its high school. Dont no one know what they doing. Just be honest and you'll stand out. Also dont trip over lame females that waste your time. If I could go back to high school, I know id be good. Its just much easier than everything after it.
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:32 AM
1

I dont know if thidnis a joke because it's worked....even without going for a drive.
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:31 AM
0

Depends on what connection you had while you spoke prior and how many followers she has. As a rule of thumb, it ain't really worth it.
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:30 AM
0

More or less. The biggest benefit may be seeing that some women you may like actually don't deserve you. Its one thing to kbow that but its another to know why that's the case.
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:28 AM
2

Yea but so many people also put little effort in and let others control their lives.
/r/seduction03/07/21 03:14 PM
5

This is clearly a case showing just how much power and control women really have. You really disnt do anything much at all.
/r/seduction03/07/21 02:59 PM
3

If you tgink people having a problwm with being and expressing themselves isnt a problem, then you don't really get anything. The whole dating game now is brimful with toxic mfs who don't know how to be themselves. They have luck with everything except becoming a better person.
/r/seduction02/07/21 02:12 PM
2

Do you know what simping is?
/r/seduction28/06/21 02:06 PM
12

I felt that way before. I still feel that way. Best advice is to match their energy. If they arwnt putting in any effort, leave them to whatever toxic ass mf is gonna play that bullshit with them. And then move on and look for a woman that treats you with respect. One that ahows you appreciation and interest. Today I approached a woman who i was pretty sure was gonna shoot me down and eventually ahe took my number after tlking with me so long ahe forgot ahe had to go home to her cousin and help …
/r/seduction27/06/21 07:53 AM
2

You good.
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:20 AM
13

This the kinda shit i be talking about. If a girl is interested she just is. All this overstrategizing shit is extra as fuck.
/r/seduction11/06/21 06:09 AM
0

That shit aint what you think. Pwoole who look like theyre having a good time all the time are struggling when no one is looking.
/r/seduction11/06/21 05:57 AM
1

A third choice ought to be added which is a guy that isnt a player or incel, takes the opinions of women in stride but tempers them against their own judgement, and learns that rejection or a female making a decision quickly indicates she isnt likely to be capable of a level of respect he deserves. Also, he matches their energy, instead of chasing them and hooing to convince them to like him. Thats a dude that respects himself and females enough to puraue only those women that want to apend aome…
/r/seduction11/06/21 04:03 AM
2

Of course ita fine to disagree. Its more important to understand how things could be better however.
/r/seduction06/06/21 04:29 AM
1

If you match with a person and unmatch once they say where they're from, unless that conversation had been going on for a whole, its not likely they got a real sense of the negatove aspects associated with that place.
/r/seduction05/06/21 11:30 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:12 PM
0

I could have the same hang ups about black women who have been born and raised in the suburbs as opposed to the hood. Or I can give them a chance to let them reveal to me who they are. I could also have those hang ups as an LA native in a dating scene where so many people are from the Midwest and thus may be more conservative in ways that aren't immediately obvious.
/r/seduction05/06/21 07:10 PM
18

That's basically just getting to know them before you want to fuck them. This is more revolutionary.
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:27 PM
0

Too often women dont give a guy a shot because of some minor detail, and when a guy expresses any kind of frustration over this, we auddenly have to talk about being entiyled. Its absurd. If you're attracted to someone, give them a chance and learn about their character. Theres so many toxic relationships and unhappiness in the dating world because shit like this. For a while I wasn't trying to date a certain type of girl til i opened myaelf to the possibility theyre just like everyone else and …
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:01 PM
0

This is absurd.
/r/seduction05/06/21 05:17 PM
1

Thus is how You learn and grow. Don't trip.
/r/seduction03/06/21 05:31 AM
1

Lol wtf. Ive never heard of anyone doing that.
/r/seduction03/06/21 12:29 AM
1

Whats the gay lie?
/r/seduction03/06/21 12:22 AM
1

We got to talking for a while. I only continued because the conversation flowed smoothly. I dont care for forcing a girl to talk to me. Eventually after she talked about how much she cooks I said she should cook for me. Then she said she is married. Her and this other woman another time really like apologize for it too. Its possible one of these married women i could sleep with but honestly, one married woman off tinder hit me up and she didnt tell me she was married until she was back at my pla…
/r/seduction03/06/21 12:07 AM
1

Well. That's bout it. Altho juat yesterday i started off by making a girl laugh and saying shes really cute so i had to talk to her....only to find out way into the conversation shes married. She still said she appreciated me coning up and talking to her.
/r/seduction02/06/21 12:34 PM
8

Word. Youve done more than you realize. Getting a compliment out the way lets her know youre not just a rando making conversation and also gives her a reason to say shes got a bf if ahe got one. No sense in laughing and connecting with a girl who has a bf.
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:31 AM
2

Im not in college anymore but i now realize that next to high school, its the easiest place to approach women. Dont hear that and feel overwhelmed by it, just know that you have the perfect time and place to grow in becoming comfortable with approaching them.
/r/seduction31/05/21 06:29 AM
1

Its not one or the other. Both matter. Thats why you're offering what you think of others here, what you think they should do.
/r/seduction19/05/21 03:58 AM
3

We're all ugly to someone.
/r/seduction16/05/21 03:06 PM
2

Word up
/r/seduction16/05/21 03:05 PM
1

Its even more important to remember that when shit dont go right.
/r/seduction15/05/21 06:01 PM
131

Thats weird to go from i forgot about a girl to i fucked a girl.
/r/seduction13/05/21 05:35 AM
12

Yea. Move on and go back to doing something productive, something that builds on or reminds you of your own value. Work out, write, play an instrument, etc. Have some hobbies that get you out of your head, and look somewhere else for the girl you want. Also I laughed a little at the "best thing for you and society" part.
/r/seduction12/05/21 10:34 PM
9

This was like a little tale on why you shouldn't talk to girls that own coffee shopsnor something.
/r/seduction12/05/21 12:54 AM
1

Ive been there before. My advice is dont go back on your word. You made a decision to move on, stand by that. Youll grow from this experience and be more prepared to cut someone off who doesnt value you, and also better at recognizing when someone does.
/r/seduction11/05/21 05:25 PM
6

Yes. Contrary to popular opinion, guys need respect and deserve it as well. A woman who isn't showing that doesn't deserve the effort we put in. I was thinking of making a post about how as a guy, you really gotta know this when approaching in person. I talked to a few females last saturday night and they were very nonchalant and careless. On the opposite end, I talked to a girl yesterday and she asked me plenty of questions and even told me her age (been approaching aince last summer and this n…
/r/seduction11/05/21 05:13 PM
1

Should have told her to just give the guy money.
/r/seduction10/05/21 09:27 PM
-4

Should have told her to just give the guy money.
/r/seduction10/05/21 09:27 PM
10

Remember this in the moment when you start telling yourself you shouldn't.
/r/seduction10/05/21 05:05 AM
1

Honestly I just started approaching women out the blue and did it during the pandemic. So only masks. Ive just been doing it naturally, starting up a conversation and asking them out if we seem like we might have something to talk about later.
/r/seduction09/05/21 11:50 PM
208

Lol bro.
/r/seduction09/05/21 07:06 AM
2

Repetition.
/r/seduction09/05/21 03:31 AM
2

If she's not inside a circle and you can talk to her directly, do so. Same rules apply:she can eother talk or ignore you, just like any girl. A friend may also jump in and cockblock or just see if youre an asshole, but in my few times doing it, i haven't had that experience.
/r/seduction09/05/21 12:55 AM
2

Those types of females and dudes experience so many highs and lows.
/r/seduction08/05/21 04:50 AM
1

Agreed
/r/seduction08/05/21 04:48 AM
4

Depends on the women, things like age and their own life experience affect things. But I've had some success in situations with less communication as well as constant communication. Its fucked up by I dont believe we are better off by not holding qomen to any real standard. If they don't want a guy pursuing them and showing interest, then fuck em. And if a guy is showing interest and flirting constantly, then he just needs to focus more in getting to know her and seeing if ahe is even worth his …
/r/seduction08/05/21 12:34 AM
1

What current scenario?
/r/seduction07/05/21 11:51 PM
3

Sure but selling that by telling them their get laid in the thousands (i know ita exagerration) or achieve "limitless" dating seems to me unfair.
/r/seduction07/05/21 11:39 PM
1

Is there real advice here? It mostly sounds like "go out and approach women and here's some reasons to feel good about it".
/r/seduction07/05/21 11:25 PM
5

I would accept this if women who say this kind of shit were not in toxic relationships getting mistreated, cheated on, or ignored by men who have gotten so good at not being needy that they don't even need their gf. Most women want a man thats passionate about them. But they want it in due time, once trust and other things have been built. This is more grade a advice on how to become a narcissist. "Fill your own cup" -- yea, that's what relayionships are: 2 people independently filling their own…
/r/seduction07/05/21 11:19 PM
1

Yea. Thats the problem.
/r/seduction07/05/21 07:41 PM
1

Indeed you said new lovers but I'm not calling fwb's lovers.
/r/seduction07/05/21 07:39 PM
0

Hiding shit from your lover isnt a way to get closer.
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:27 PM
1

What is better? The mpst common advice in this sub is towards having better game, whoch no one needs if theyre being themselves. Im not running a marketing campaign for my dick or my personality. Many of you sound like you are. So if better means becoming "better" at presenting youraelf as a certain type of person, it means being a better actor. If by better you mean getting better at recognizing a real desire to talk and communicate or a kind of peraonality you will get along better with, then …
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:25 PM
1

Yea and "less attractive" females are oftwn the ones woth a real personality, who can maintain a conversation from thw jump and show interest by aaking you about who you are as a person. Its a shownl of insecurity because its not an authentic reveal of who they are as a person.
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:20 PM
1

I take all advice and measure it against my own experience. Whole lot of people sound like they know what they talking about sont be knowong.
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:18 PM
4

Truthfully you should at least listen to them. But you should also gain experience so you can compare their advice to something.
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:54 PM
45

Lol no. Casual sex is empty. People treat each other like placeholders and then drop each other when they finally wanna admit the sex wasn't everything they wanted.
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:47 PM
2

Its not all someone's fault because another peraon doesn't value the friendship and attraction they have to elevate a friendahip to a relationship. Theres some truth in this post but its not helpful to tell guys theyre in the friendzone because of themselves. They play a part, but so does the woman. I remember a girl i liked crying in the phone to me about a dude fucking her and not wanting to date her. Her getting her heart broken wasnt my fault. Me hanging on was, but the real reason to let go…
/r/seduction07/05/21 08:13 AM
1

Im not saying its not a way of showing interest. Im saying its a shitty way to show interest. A girl responding to a question about getting her number by saying "wait, what do you like to do? What are your hobbies" is far more genuine and thus alao makes the guy more genuine. Shit tests are as unhealthy for the mind as all this game people here talk about. Its a way of lying.
/r/seduction07/05/21 05:30 AM
1

Fuck a shit teat and fuck an insecure female giving dudes a shit test. Y'all let them get away with this bullshit and thats why they rely on it. Being honest, especially when a guy is respectful and attentive in his approach, would be better for all parties involved.
/r/seduction07/05/21 03:42 AM
1

Ramonas is my favorite because their green chile burrito. I cant find one like it anywhere else in LA. Next 2 are pretty luch a tie: My Taco in Highland Park and Fiesta Martin in Inglewood. Now we have to hear your top 3 (burgers or Mexican food of course).
/r/seduction06/05/21 06:35 PM
1

Good talk.
/r/seduction06/05/21 04:42 PM
0

Delusional self confidence is a fragile sumbitch. Yet its really what most guys with game have. -37 out of 10. Would bot reccommend.
/r/seduction06/05/21 06:05 AM
23

I see a few narcissists in here talking about this thread is pathetic. If you swimming in pussy why you come up for air just to shit on dudes trying to figure their own shit out? Go back to fucking your toxic fwb you empty wretched ragamuffins.
/r/seduction06/05/21 06:04 AM
3

La native here. Just chiming in yo say i hope in n out isn't in that top 3.
/r/seduction06/05/21 06:00 AM
0

You sidnt ruin their night. Calmate.
/r/seduction29/04/21 11:07 PM
-1

Only thing lame is thw hoerarchy in the dating qorld and how much like the successful ones dudes wanna be. Being an alpha is overrated and moat the asvice fiven here is about hoq to mimic them.
/r/seduction27/04/21 06:02 PM
3

Focus more on knowing and building your value to the world around you. Self love is a bottomless hole as well.
/r/seduction25/04/21 05:52 PM
3

Rejection is the norm.
/r/seduction19/04/21 05:54 PM
-2

Defibitely not true. The idea of approaching a woman should be about taking her off ger pedestal but still appreciating her for who she is. This kind of thing is basically saying she's abpve making mistakes or even doing something she isnt sure about.
/r/seduction18/04/21 09:25 PM
1

Damn. Ain't that some shit
/r/seduction15/04/21 11:49 PM
0

Bro take a look around this sub. That's what you call arrogant? Miss me with that shit
/r/seduction13/04/21 03:37 AM
2

And look where it got them. That's why i have talked about HEALTHY relationships. Not just getting into one or flirting. The rammifications of male's thinking too much of their inclination towards that kind of shit hasnt bewn good, so I see no need to refer to it unless you still hang up captain america posters on your bedroom walls or some shit. The roles are based on what people can do. You think preindustrialized societies were studying paychology today and then deciding the man will be the b…
/r/seduction11/04/21 08:14 PM
0

Gender roles don't make anyone dominant or submissive. They get shit done. In preindustrialized cultures, that's a lot more based on reality, not delusions. Alcoholic, abusive, cheating, absconding, drug addicted, despondent, angry fathers are.....what? Lot more if not just as many of those as there are overbearing mothers. And those men would sound off on all the same notes you are. Hell. You came in here talking like you had some feelings pint up inside you about feminism and now someone else …
/r/seduction11/04/21 07:33 PM
2

I said theres an overestimation of the difference in strength. Last I recall a woman's pain tolerance is higher than a man's also. Does a little deadlift record reflect that? This shit is just absurd. Theres much more to what should be recognized as strength than what men are good at and we are not as a culture seeing these qualities expressed and valued. What we are seeing is a long history of men patting themselves on the back and encouraging everyone else to appreciate them being this way. Pe…
/r/seduction11/04/21 07:20 PM
-1

Pre industrial cultures were not patriarchal in the same sense we are. There was a lot more variety and especially in cultures that didnt become highly developed. Even now there still is, especially where couples get along for decades and take care of each other. As one writer has put it, you dont need to storm a captured castle. If women really are submissive, then things like feminism, the fear of an overbearing mother in psychoanalytic theory, matriarchic cultures, and just the fucking common…
/r/seduction11/04/21 07:11 PM
-2

Those studies only find the consequences of culture. Go into pre-industrialized societies if you want to see what's "natural". I'm not drawn towards submissive women. Anyone obsessed with their own power is likely to be drawn to someone who will not contest it, and anyone who has had to put up with being controlled can also learn to see that if they're good, they can depend on the person in power. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying it doesn't sustain a healthy, balanced relationship.
/r/seduction11/04/21 06:04 PM
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Its cultural. And it isn't even across the board in this culture. Some women dont want to feel submissive, they dont want to feel dominated. And a great deal are plenty more forthright and bolder than men. Thats psrt of why the saying about a stronger woman standing behind a strong man exists. This nonsense about men needing to be dominant is an overestimstion of a man's physical strength and honestly just more narcissistic bullshit. Its why we are only now starting to understand how important e…
/r/seduction11/04/21 05:41 PM
0

Amy relationship that will last is not going to be based of those notions of dominance and submissiveness. At least the healthyones that last wont be.
/r/seduction11/04/21 04:52 PM
1

Again. Advice that could work for some women. It eould serve guys better to just learn to walk away and let go of any woman who doesnt appreciate them. Some girls wish they knew a nice guy. And I swear the only dudes pretending to be nice are some of yall toxic motherfuckers who dont know how to stop being a narcissist.
/r/seduction09/04/21 05:12 PM
1

Honestly sounds like a "lets try being ethically nonmonog" waiting to happen to me. Good sex is something that happens now and then and if the most important part isnt that its with someone you care deeply about, then nothing wlse will ever be enough.
/r/seduction06/04/21 07:47 AM
1

All that.
/r/seduction06/04/21 01:51 AM
42

That's a people thing. Thats why having game is overrated. If a girl is into a dude, she just is. All that games is for toxic people to convince other toxic people they aren't toxic.
/r/seduction01/04/21 01:11 AM
0

Early 30s more like it, but to call this corny aint about cunicism or optimism. Its about how it's something so simple.
/r/seduction31/03/21 07:18 PM
22

Lol @ this teenage existential breakthrough ass shit
/r/seduction31/03/21 05:10 AM
2

That's pretty much why this whole dominant male and macho man bullshit works and is so common. Men who havent been raised by better fathers overcompensate or overdo the masculinity thing while women who also havent been raised properly accept an inferior role in dating. Theres a lpt of sexism out there to be sure, but this is common for a reason. And tthese cycles just keep repeating themselves. At the end of the day i blame capitalism but thats me.
/r/seduction18/03/21 04:13 PM
2

Imagine coming up with this idea and then rationalizing it enough to post it.
/r/seduction15/03/21 05:24 PM
2

It depends on the girl. But I will say I've rarely barely texted a girl and it turned out she was into me.
/r/seduction04/03/21 05:06 PM
3

Man. Dont beat yourself up over that. She decided to make a shitty move. Reading this reminds me you cant force anyone to like you and you gotta just deal with that as best you can.
/r/seduction03/03/21 04:40 AM
1

Every step you take, you got to remember that it slowly changing your way of thinking and by the time you make a decent amount of progress you'll be thinking differently and also feeling differently.
/r/seduction03/03/21 02:09 AM
2

Bro just take the mask off and ask to see her without it.
/r/seduction28/02/21 07:47 PM
1

What exactly are the positive results you're talking about? Just having a positive (not rude or mean) response?
/r/seduction25/02/21 10:16 PM
13

Word. Also means shes not putting effort in and that's a sign of more to come were things to continue.
/r/seduction22/02/21 04:38 AM
1

It sounds like a waste of time. Anyone 5esting a person that much right away is just going to have a shitload more at every step after. If anything, a guy should just respond by questioning these ideas she has expressed.
/r/seduction21/02/21 11:26 PM
1

Wtf. Walking away from someone who cant wven receive a compliment is tapping out? She tapped out from the start.
/r/seduction21/02/21 06:41 PM
2

In their league. Who the fuck thinks in leagues? I havw yo restrain myself in situations like those. Women can definitely be rude and inconsiderate. It's sad. But the whole idea od a league is just for people who dont understand themselves or their own happiness. Lemme find out a girl thinks like that, if be done with the conversation. Shit is immature as hell. High school ass motherfuckers, go stand somewhere with your clique trying to look cool.
/r/seduction21/02/21 06:37 PM
39

Sounds like you had some gopd interactions. Ove found its all about demystifying strangers. I get thw notion that youre getting that. Keep it up and eventually you'll feel a lot more comfortable and even ready, and theres a big difference between the 2.
/r/seduction21/02/21 09:50 AM
2

I'm guessing you might have just gotten 2 in a row like that. Hit on a few tomorrow and get back to us. ​ I'm in LA so I have been able to go to malls or stores and approach if I wanted to, but I feel like bars have gotta have women more willing to talk or at least single. Your recent experience is making me question that.
/r/seduction21/02/21 05:56 AM
1

Aye, keep at it. I had a lesbian tell me she's with someone (didn't think to ask if they wanted a 3rd) and then thank me, another woman told me she's not single but really seemed like she wanted to continue the conversation (she also told me to keep doing it), and then another tell me its the way dating should be. Only the last one resulted in a nice few dates (so far). Point is: take the encouragement and remember it next time. ​ Also, man I fucking wish bars were open here too. I'd def have so…
/r/seduction21/02/21 04:51 AM
1

Better to just text to set something up or call her to talk if she seems pretty interested in responding.
/r/seduction18/02/21 08:33 AM
1

Well that's how i got out of the habit of overthinking. Only way to get rid of a bad habit is to create a better one.
/r/seduction17/02/21 07:01 PM
2

It's all about habit. Whatever you want to do, you'll have to force yourself to do but soon enough it'll become habit and what you naturally do. Put yourself in situations where you can be honest and sincere about something you want to be sincere, and before you know it, you'll see how earth and natural it its.
/r/seduction17/02/21 06:25 PM
1

No you're not. I'm someone who only last year began to see things differently. You just have to make a habit of letting some thoughts go.
/r/seduction17/02/21 06:22 PM
152

Sincerity takes no technique.
/r/seduction17/02/21 06:46 AM
4

Aint no one high value except in the eye of someone they pursue.
/r/seduction16/02/21 07:49 AM
1

I mean, people into that kind of thing definitely are pursuing the wrong things, especially when they dont wanna do them with someone that givea half a fuck about them.
/r/seduction16/02/21 03:43 AM
2

I mean. That kinda situation, it definitely just say what i feel and if they still ignore me or whatever, then id be done with them.
/r/seduction16/02/21 02:30 AM
9

A good reason to do that is to make sure you're getting energy you're giving. Dudes dont remember enpugh that they too deserve and need attention, so if someone ain't providing that, fuck em. Too many peiple, especially women, take the attention from men they receive for granted. So let them go on thinking whatever they thinking.
/r/seduction16/02/21 12:25 AM
31

Bro im in LA. If i see a gym crush shes on tinder looking like a foreign webcam model.
/r/seduction13/02/21 07:27 PM
1

If your friend ain't an asshole, they'll probably be cool with it. I would think.
/r/seduction13/02/21 06:12 AM
2

I probably would have tried to talk to them before I left so there's no pressure to make conversation. Otherwise you could open a conversation and go back to it when you want but keep talking to your company too.
/r/seduction13/02/21 05:23 AM
2

As long as you have a plan, I say go for it. If you're out in public and a girl catches your attention, it's important to remember that you may not see her again and she may be more open to talking to you than you realize. So I say wherever you are, just go for it, as long as you have some kind of idea of what to talk to her about and how long to talk to her.
/r/seduction13/02/21 04:19 AM
3

True. But then again a girl that appreciates the effort and is single is probably juat going to give you her number if you ask. That was the case for me with one woman a few weeks back.
/r/seduction11/02/21 08:06 AM
2

Women are taught to accept certain things, and a lotnof them are too young to know where their choices are leading them. So they pursue the kind of guys they see on social media and other media. It doesnt make sense but it is going to keep happening. Guys also think just because a girl looks like the populsr ones on social media, dating or fucking her will have some meaning in their life. As I recently told a friend, shes a 10 if you find her attractive and shes into you. Nothing else matters in…
/r/seduction11/02/21 07:39 AM
4

It is actually surprising how many women will thank a guy. Ive only recently atarted and 2 immediately come to mins, one a married woman that sounded like she hadnt been complimented in forever, and one wjo had a bf and still made conversation as she thanked me. Ita a good reminder theres some really nice women out there who at bare mf minimum deserve to be complimented.
/r/seduction11/02/21 03:48 AM
9

This Will never be put to rest. Ive been with older women, and frankly have much more luck with them, and one told me its a shame how girls are conditioned to accept being mistreated. She said this after I told her I was being turned on by her and I building a connection. This kind of thing, what I am saying as well as what you are saying, is not flatly true across the board. Moreover, who complains of the world being too kind? Who really feels like the world is fair or easy? What a nice guy is …
/r/seduction10/02/21 07:10 PM
14

Exactly. The narcissists and assholes are the ones seeing the most success.
/r/seduction07/02/21 07:22 PM
1

Do it bro.
/r/seduction03/02/21 10:02 PM
7

I aint met one of those yet but I suppose not.
/r/seduction03/02/21 03:11 AM
50

You self conscious ass mfs. Youre probably just fine.
/r/seduction02/02/21 11:49 PM
5

Remind yourself of all the times you had to beat your shit because no girl was hitting you up. Remind yourself of your fellows among us who have to do the same thing tonight. And suck it up and respond to her.
/r/seduction30/01/21 03:26 AM
1

It matters to some. But there's not really consensus on it which is why this is another thing that can't be predicted. This is why just saying whatever you want is all you can do. All this game and technique still requires being alright when a woman rejects you. What if that means your game shpuld have been different? It's too many variables. Dudes go crazy over this shit. Its sad.
/r/seduction27/01/21 05:45 PM
1

Its not about not giving a fuck so much as being glad you are who you are. That means realizing the things youre good at and getting better at them.
/r/seduction26/01/21 07:39 AM
1

Yes
/r/seduction24/01/21 04:22 PM
-1

I cant stand this kind of thinking. People exist for other people. Aristotle didnt say we're political/social animals because we exist to find peace in ouraelves. We help each other to find peace. You dont face youraelf, you accept youraelf and face others.
/r/seduction17/01/21 10:25 PM
3

Its alright to think but remember what you think afterwards. For me afterthoughts tend to be like, I wish I would have juat approached her so she didn't have thia power over me, or it would have been worth it just to see what she was like. Or that everyone is disliked and liked, so I should have seen of she would have liked me. And yes the way to counter overthinking is to make a habit of juat entering a social situation as you please. Post covid it should be much easier, but im talking about go…
/r/seduction17/01/21 10:29 AM
8

Only thing you need to do to be yourself is to put yourself in situations you think you may find beneficial and then grow accustomed to thinking on your feet which is really just doing as you think. Too many of us think we habe to think before we act all the time. With being social, you have to feel comfortable just being. Only way to do that is practice.
/r/seduction17/01/21 02:30 AM
3

Because in our culture the majority of appreciation is spent on women and we function in a state of a lack pf appreciation.
/r/seduction31/12/20 05:27 AM
2

You got a perception about it and I dont agree. I dont have a circle of friends into all the same shit as me so i have to look outside of it. Why are you stressing this so much? This sounds more and more like projection. If you were really fine with whatever you think, you wouldnt need to keep on pointing oit what is wrong with someone else.
/r/seduction23/12/20 08:37 AM
1

Its been the opposite for me. I feel more comfortable justvsaying whatever comes to mind. My mind is clearer in public whereas i used to be very anxious. Rejection is the first rule of this shit, its the first lesson to learn and one every guy is reminded of at one point or another. So i take it as a learning experience and get better at being myaelf.
/r/seduction23/12/20 06:23 AM
1

What am i doing thats insane? Attempting to get better at communicating naturally with women in interested in? Like I said. Im good. I asked for some perspective. I got some. Pay more attention to women that look genuinely interested. Cool. I'll do that. But I'll also approach women if I find them attractive and wanna see if theres potential for something.
/r/seduction23/12/20 05:40 AM
2

Thats how you see it. I'm getting better and more natural, saying what i wanna say. Ive been pretty introverted. And i make it a point to never be put in the category of a chad. So call it what you want, I'm good. First and most important thing to me is integrity and that means proceding with a genuine interest that can be explored over a date. Id be desperate if I went on 20 dates and made a move every time. So i thibk you got it twisted.
/r/seduction23/12/20 05:29 AM
1

Definitely. But its quarantine man. Need I really say more? I would have more success approaching more specific women, yes, and thats also part of the point of doing this. Ive never approached a woman and then and there decided to beging talking to her. I have now tho so im preparing myself for a woman that I would be far more intentional with.
/r/seduction23/12/20 05:07 AM
1

Thats reasonable. But I didn't repeat the same comments to all of them. I'm a firm believer in not reusing comments or compliments.
/r/seduction23/12/20 04:39 AM
1

All in all, its a learning process. Some are saying its a bad idea. Maybe it is. It gets me out of my head hpwever, and reminds me that just having conversation is something I'm good at. The compliments are coming naturally too. I made a girl with a bf laugh multiple times today, one of which was when I said she came to the mall looking extra cute. But ill take the feedback as perspective.
/r/seduction23/12/20 04:31 AM
1

Eh. I guess. Sounds like thatll take a hell of a lot of time and most the time there qont be any signs. Also means the ones that you approach just because youre passing by them will be ignored.
/r/seduction23/12/20 04:24 AM
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Its comments like these that feel like projecting. Maybe they did. But either way, ive been giving a fuck less lately and with most of them I was able to joke or they asked me questions. So if they sensed some insecurity, I couldn't tell. Especially when a married woman thanks you repeatedly.
/r/seduction23/12/20 04:22 AM
1

Choosing signals?
/r/seduction23/12/20 04:15 AM
0

My body language is relaxed and focused i guess. Not sure how to describe it. I don't move a whole lot. I could stand to cut my hair, recently cut the beard so theres just a little shadow, but I've been wearing my mask anyway. I sont dress up or anything. Tend to wear a band tahort and some dark blue or green panta theae last few times. Today i wore sweats and a political tshirt with a short statement. Nothing crazy tho. When I approach, the first few queations I ask tend to be how they are, wha…
/r/seduction23/12/20 03:31 AM
1

Let a few break your heart or fuck up your head. They'll fall off that pedestal
/r/seduction23/12/20 01:05 AM
1

Because you don't know it's actually easier than you think. At least you don't know that yet
/r/seduction23/12/20 01:04 AM
1

Most important thing is to first feel like you can make a girl happy. See yourself in that way. Recognize your own gifts so you can show them to others. Approaching women is then about finding someone who can appreciate what you offer.
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:07 AM
1

Bruh. You know that aint everywhere. Folks is downvoting you for real.
/r/seduction21/12/20 09:06 AM
9

Its definitely part of why shit is so fuckrd up in the dating world. Ive had a few girls say the same kind of comment. Its a good reminder to just shoot your shot and be genuine because youre not going to try to harm them.
/r/seduction19/12/20 05:57 AM
9

Good for you. Porn is a poison, its usefulness comes from us being alienated from one another.
/r/seduction12/12/20 05:26 AM
10

I will never understand this sub.
/r/seduction08/12/20 06:26 AM
7

Wholesome.
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:48 PM
1

I'm in la. Where you trying to hit up?
/r/seduction04/12/20 05:34 AM
43

Nobody: Dudes in r/seduction: Here's quantified data on my sex life.
/r/seduction02/12/20 04:35 AM
1

I dont think it's always on the wall. Girls get busy. They get annoyed with guys asking them out. It's all sorts of reasons. So to be forward and simply ask for a date means you'll be clear about whether the girl has any interest. It's better than leaving things unsaid.
/r/seduction30/11/20 11:45 PM
1

Not everyone has the same social skills. Its not something you just squire from good parenting or education. Strengths develop for lots of reasons. No one has perfect parents, some dudes may have game but still be shitting boyfriends. Some dudes with no game could make great boyfriends. Social skills is not a term that means capable of flattering strangers. Theres a lot to it. It's hardest to train when a guys strengths arent being emphasized.
/r/seduction29/11/20 04:49 PM
1

You can say that in general. That plenty of guys have done the same thing and so she has no need to respond. But I dont know how many comments shes gotten or whatever. Nor how old these people are. All that comes into play.
/r/seduction29/11/20 04:44 PM
1

I believe its best to be up front about it. To be honest. And then leave the girl to make the decision to act immaturely. If this is just some girl he doesnt really care about sure, i guess ghost her. But if hes really interested, it makes more sense to put his cards in the table and walk away if shes not concerned with him.
/r/seduction29/11/20 04:43 PM
3

Never thlught about finding a wingman online. But shit. If youre ever in LA I might be down.
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:37 AM
1

I mean. Thats just conversation. G. K. Chesterton said guys talk to the ideas they are talking about, and women talk to each other. So theres something to that but its also important to dig deeper into an emotional state or memory or belief when the time calls.
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:36 AM
1

I disagree with you ruining anything. Girls reject guys regularly. Even the ones that compliment them. So calling her beautiful probably flatters her but if it does anything more will require further action. Ask her out on a date.
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:33 AM
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Tell her she doesnt seem as interested as you are and that you'd like to take her out on a date. Have a date in mind (date, time, and place) but also be aware she could just ghost you. Either she'll say yes and you can set something up even if it means a delay -- ot she will say no or ghost you. Take the response to this to determine the next step. If she ghosts you, yea, shes a flake. Delete her out your phone and go find someone that deserves your attention and time.
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:30 AM
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This is why I often make comments on how this seduction inner fame convoluted military regimen for picking up females shit is overrated. It always comes down to being yourself for me. I think thats most important. And I thibk thats what youre missing. The idea of having game is the idea of pretending and having a role to play. True, the consequences of games mat be satisfying but we are meant to grow as people and to grow together. You fant grow when you're pretending. No matter how succeasful y…
/r/seduction29/11/20 08:27 AM
1

We all want approval. That's a human need.
/r/seduction28/11/20 08:27 PM
2

All bad habits have to be replaced by good ones.
/r/seduction26/11/20 10:32 PM
1

Ok dude. Write us the world's longest pick up artist manual when you're done. Thanks.
/r/seduction25/11/20 10:26 PM
0

The equation of this much effort and dating is an error. You feeling attacked as you defend it just shows that even more.
/r/seduction25/11/20 10:08 PM
2

This aint getting healthy. Stop being hyperbolic.
/r/seduction25/11/20 08:33 PM
-1

This aint a religion. Calm down.
/r/seduction25/11/20 08:14 PM
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I mean yea. If it takes THIS much, hopelessness is a much more logical perspective. But hopelessness always works that way. Honestly the only reason i post here is to try to help dudes become more comfortable with who they are and not overthink this shit.
/r/seduction25/11/20 06:50 PM
179

Bruh. Thats too much.
/r/seduction25/11/20 11:22 AM
2

Develop interests and skills and hobbies. As you do that, try to be open to dating. If you see a girl that gives you reason to be interested (you can tell shes into the same music or something, she seems interested in you) then just approach her and speak naturally. Dont act like anyone else. Aleays good to remember that sometimes a girl isnt good enough for you or shes not your type no matter how cute she is. Yoire looking. Sometimes that means not finding anything.
/r/seduction25/11/20 09:26 AM
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I doubt the guys who give their all are the ones who get everything a woman offers in return. For both sexes the correlation between inveatment and return tends to be negative, meaning one gives more and the pther gives far less, perhaps increasingly less. Thats why we have subreddits like these. People want to know how to get more out of their relationships or simply have more to compensate for lackluster ones.
/r/seduction24/11/20 11:30 PM
39

"Every dude's main is just another dude"s sideline." -- Boogie
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:39 PM
21

Morr advice that just works sometimes. Ive had plenty good convo with females thru text. Plenty flirting. Plenty long ass texts that made ME not feel like responding back. In general, id rather hang out in person, but shit, im bored in the house and in the house bored. So i text back when I get some time. Not keeping a convo going van be a bad sign too.
/r/seduction23/11/20 08:02 AM
3

In one way or another we always live for other people. The hope is to find a proper balance.
/r/seduction23/11/20 05:15 AM
0

I feel like men struggle deeply with this question if not more, at least in a way women do not. All i can say is as human beings we are always meant to grow no matter what. As Bob Dylan put it, life isnt about discovering yourself, its about creating yourself. I am not one to say "oh just do it for yourself" but at the end of the day, you do have to make sure the person you offer someone else is a person you want to be. Hopefully youre not being too critical of yourself and as a consequence over…
/r/seduction23/11/20 05:14 AM
1

Yea. You have to be on the constant lookout. And who knows how many dont even look like a metalhead.
/r/seduction22/11/20 01:21 AM
1

Preciaelu. Only trouble is that rarely happens. At least now. If I couls go to the movies or a show or something maybe. Perhaps farmer's markets would be a good choice.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:38 AM
2

I appreciate your perspective. I think i share it too. I was at the gym yesterday and this girl had a short aith a death metal looking logo on it. I dont usually like to talk to a girl at rhe gym just because it kind of puts them on the spot in a way, being surrounded by guys. But I did because i love metal. And it was easy as hell. Im more a fan of approaching a woman with intention.
/r/seduction21/11/20 08:48 PM
1

It's not that hes wrong. Not necessarily. It's just that women arent wrong to accuse us of not caring about them if we do that.
/r/seduction21/11/20 04:51 PM
13

These posts always remind me of that time Bobby is taken under the wing of Boomhauer as the latter shows how to pick up women in a women's shoe department. Boomhauer literally walks up to every single girl in sight saying the same shit until some random girl flirta back with him. I realize the shit works but fuck man. That shit is demeaning to me, as a dude. Just feels like I'm even more a ho than anyone.
/r/seduction21/11/20 08:49 AM
1

I've thought about going to blacks beach. Where else would you recommend?
/r/seduction20/11/20 07:36 PM
1

Probably is. But everything is difficult in la. I've considered driving from here to practice. Been out to Palm Springs and bakersfield.
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:57 PM
1

I understand that. Im not saying nothing happens. I'm saying look at the hoops we have to jump through for women.
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:44 PM
1

Man. It shouldnt have to be that way.
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:01 PM
5

This mf said sonny
/r/seduction20/11/20 08:12 AM
1

10 miles? The fuck? Walk 10 miles running game on females? Is that what that's about?
/r/seduction20/11/20 07:07 AM
36

Sometimes I wonder if we dudes just overanalyze what we do when shit works out. Like, how many other times did you do this that day? How many other girls responded the same way to the same game?
/r/seduction19/11/20 02:10 AM
6

More should be said. This is like some fortune cookie written by soneone's parents.
/r/seduction17/11/20 02:53 AM
3

I was joking but your comment confirmed what i said.
/r/seduction13/11/20 10:10 PM
2

See a woman would never make this post. Dudes really 've celebrating this while females can grt it easily. Fuck this shit. I quit.
/r/seduction13/11/20 08:43 PM
1

I dont have the part of the brain that says "this is dumb, say it instead of that unfunny bullshit you were about to say".
/r/seduction12/11/20 12:40 PM
1

Not in my opinion. Thats only one kind of humor. Not every dude is gonna be Mitch Hedburg. Im just saying. This kind of advice can rob a guy of his personality. Being awkard is fine if you can accept it and even roll with it. Being unfunny is fine if you can show your interest and ability to have a good time in other ways.
/r/seduction12/11/20 06:56 AM
2

That aint true tho. How much of getting laid is accepting rejection? That means that perhaps your unfunny approach led to rejection in some cases. Humor is just natural. We want to laugh. Plus, some guys are funny and might be able to learn how to be funny by spending some time being unfunny. Its all apart of just being theirselves.
/r/seduction12/11/20 06:21 AM
1

No i mean comedians in regular conversation. My point was everyone "tries" to be funny.
/r/seduction12/11/20 06:10 AM
4

Thats part of it too. Letting your guard down together.
/r/seduction12/11/20 05:37 AM
2

In conversation comedians try over and over to be funny.
/r/seduction12/11/20 05:37 AM
1

No i mean in conversation.
/r/seduction12/11/20 03:08 AM
6

But what does it even mean to not try to new funny? Even comedians try. Especially in regular conversation. They're convinced of their own humor and major so many unnecessary jokes. You gotta take a shot if only to see if you and her have the same sense of humor
/r/seduction12/11/20 01:44 AM
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Eh. But this can create a hyper awareness of the mood to joke and what not. And on top of this, some girls appreciate a guy sticking his kneck out to make an obviously dumb joke. Making stupid jokes can always turn into a vulnerable moment that a girl thinks is cute and appreciates.
/r/seduction12/11/20 12:10 AM
2

Hugging when meeting for a date is a good start. The rest depends on how well things are going. If they're awkward and she's not laughing, not interested in the conversation, not really making eye contact, then physical touch isn't a good idea. But if she is, then it just depends on where you're at. Generally, the more public you are, the more playful it should be (I wouldn't just go right in for her knee or thigh in public).
/r/seduction11/11/20 08:02 PM
247

"Stop trying..." is more like it. If a joke arises, say it. This "stop trying to be funny" thinking can easily lead to the avoidance of humor which is equally unnatural.
/r/seduction11/11/20 07:23 PM
2

This is more advice that would work with some people but not with others.
/r/seduction10/11/20 06:45 PM
1

Lol yooooo
/r/seduction10/11/20 03:27 AM
2

I'm guessing in a downtown or shopping area.
/r/seduction09/11/20 09:26 PM
3

Where are you approaching them?
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:18 PM
13

Yea thats real. A lot of us havent had the role models that could have given us all the little things and habita of mind that amount to what looks like confidence. So we have to retrain ourselves slowly.
/r/seduction09/11/20 01:53 PM
1

Do not give a fuck. Fuck with the people, women and dudes, who fuck with you. Rejection is apart of all things in life so let it hit you but remember you deserve more than a door slammed in your face. So keep your head up and move on. But also remember sometimes you have to let yourself hurt. The hurt isnt permanent abd ita not final, but it is real and ignoring it is exactly what most the happy/successful people in the world do. So be real with yourself and others.
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:40 AM
5

This is more of what ive come to realize is bullshit. If a person is interested and likes you, you can make a whole lot of mistakes. Certain women who are comfortable with their attraction to a guy will also tell him what they dont like and still like him anyway. This kind of advice is just meant to help people play games and trick themselves and others into being interested. What happens in reality is that people who are talking to multiple people (especially guys talking to many women) dont ha…
/r/seduction08/11/20 01:42 AM
2

Word. For not wanting that id say you have decent standards. I matched with this lady on bumble and she was from mf Iowa saying guys there just want sex on the app. So i guess its just a thing. But i think being upfront as a female is good. I personally have looked for sex or an fwb but let a girl tell me she wants a relationship. Ill put in even more work. But at the end of the day, we all want someone who treats us right. A lot of the other stuff blocks our vision of how we are treated. I'm su…
/r/seduction07/11/20 04:04 AM
2

Ive approaches some at grocery stores or the mall. I'd say it's good to get used to being places where theres a lot to do. Malls or downtown areas with a lot of walking. Just have to be ready to strike up a conversation within seconds of seeing a girl which i find hard to do.
/r/seduction07/11/20 03:00 AM
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The older I get, the more I feel that rejection is the number one rule. Number 2 is that a girl will like you for just beinf yourself. Guys dont hear it enough but we fet judged quickly and wrongly too, but anyone who does so prolly aint worth your time. Plus any girl interested either wont mind or will like that you call her cute.
/r/seduction07/11/20 02:58 AM
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Depends on what areas the high standards are in. Some women have been treated horribly and thus have high standards for respect. Others dont likw watching a guy stagnate and not being overtly successful so they avoid those who dont live a certain lifestyle. Either way, dont ask for perfection because it is not perfection which you offer.
/r/seduction07/11/20 02:56 AM
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