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| 3 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsThe OP even mentions that dead bedrooms don’t happen to the top 1%. That dead set validates what the red and purple sides have been saying for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 05:31 PM |
| 9 | Men need to start leaving women alone.If it’s not hell yes, it’s hell no. If you’re a man who’s been through a breakup or rough patch and suddenly a very attractive woman is giving you attention but wants you to do things for her and strings you along, it’s far too easy to get caught up in rationalizing the sunk cost. If she’s not about ready to jump you after the first date - OR isn’t bringing little random presents like cookies or buns she cooked, she’s probably luke warm and meh about you which means it’s time to move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 11:04 AM |
| 10 | Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad.We will see a dichotomy in men in the US and greater western hemisphere. Some will go 10X Clavicular and others will withdraw into comfort pod life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:24 PM |
| 11 | Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad.I suspect cultural influence will moderate what happens. Machismo and individualism is a larger driving force in Latino and US men. Historically eastern culture tended to emphasize conforming and keeping peace with the family, so “disappearing and coping” to some extent makes sense for men in the East. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 06:22 PM |
| 4 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?There are always exceptions and your anecdote is really awesome. This should give more people more hope. I think the kind of women the most people are referring to here are the ones who were major party girls, and baddies who typically went for the most masculine, tall, hottest bros they saw at the bar or in the club in college, and then pivoted towards responsible, stable, nice guy who checked the stable husband and good father checkboxes, after failing to lockdown the guy that could make her m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:52 PM |
| 3 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?True unless you have a lot and you can pay for company | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:40 PM |
| 10 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?As long as I can see an hourglass and the belly isn’t hanging loose, I would much rather be with a traditionally mid or lower 4 woman who is supportive and easy going than a neurotic, complaining hot baddie. But I admit I was probably more looks focused in high school and in my early 20s which is unfortunate because you miss a lot of actual good women being that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 12:59 PM |
| 3 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Status can also come from being popular, notorious, and interesting which happens all the time in poor neighborhoods. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 12:55 PM |
| 7 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Strawman. They actually do want successful men later in life, but only for marriage and for stability. Most mid or lower but successful men who are nice and accommodating and the opposite in demeanor from “baddies” will end up in dead bedrooms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 12:51 PM |
| 3 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?That’s sad and it makes me wonder where girls who become women learn these patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 12:45 PM |
| 3 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Money and looks are just one part of the equation. For some women, mostly less educated or shallow women, social clout and standing is attractive. Looking masculine and potentially dangerous, as opposed to pretty, is also attractive to some women. These hood bros are probably just aggressive, go for it and then the women are probably just standing around saying “why not”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?I came here to say the same things but you nailed it. I wished I knew all of this when I was first getting into serious relationships. If only three was a way to tease these traits out early on with shit tests. In my experience many women in that Cluster B zone are good at hiding it until you’ve committed a lot of time and are invested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 04:59 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: what makes a woman not marriage material?Peaceful, fit and fun sounds perfect! Overall though men prefer to feel at peace and will choose that over hyperbolic shifts on an emotional roller coaster. If I were advising young men about finding a longterm partner I would tell them to avoid a woman who over reacts to being put in an awkward situation, one who is the wet blanket out on public and one who never seems content or satisfied. In short, women high in neuroticism and low in agreeableness and openness. I discovered these late but so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 04:43 AM |
| 4 | 20 year old women don't want middle aged or geriatric men the way these men want themIs there an oddly specific motivation for this post? Seems like most people understand the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Female written romantic literature is insanely patriarchalExcellent post. I’m just going to get my popcorn ready for the mental gymnastics that will of course provide a perfectly sensible explaining away of your observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/25 04:52 AM |
| 1 | Men are shallow as wellOf course a lot of men are shallow but by and large most men are honest about it. That’s the differences that many men here see and talk about. The most central and often repeated theme here from men is that women want to say one thing but then act differently in their life choices when it comes to men or at least when they think they want to “settle down” and get married. It seems a lot of women want to preserve feelings so they will say what they think they should say about the qualities of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Is it worth it to have sex with a woman if your not that attracted to her?Absolutely no. Even if there is a question about anything whether it’s personality or something about her appearance that stops you a moment, just don’t. | /r/seduction | 24/07/25 11:52 AM |
| 11 | In order for men to be successful in dating, they must transform into a commodityThose are valuable if they are additions to your self and not as a replacement for your true authentic self. That’s not what the OP is getting at. The OP is also addressing the fact that men can’t authentically display vulnerability without losing sexual marketability. When was the last time any of your girlfriends said they really adored how you felt about your favorite music, movies or games or other interests that at one time were very dear to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?I just used the google ai search for man flu and now I’m just effin’ flabbergasted? What a bunch of hypocritical bs. I am still interested in your perspective though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/25 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?I get where you’re ultimately going but most men have been conditioned not to recognize letting sadness well up and outward so rapidly. The ability to let go and let down your guard takes a level of outcome independence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/25 02:13 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?I got busy but I will get back to this soon. RemindMe! Two days “Respond to this comment” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/25 02:07 AM |
| 3 | Millennial males (and older) had it easier.This here is the difference. My social skills were not great at all but every weekend I was out of the house at the mall or young adult club somewhere else where I could meet new girls when I was a teen and young adult. Unfortunately there are too many zoomers in my family tree who are content to stay at home and never go out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Millennial males (and older) had it easier.I’m a Xennial and started using early dating apps and chats as a young adult but pretty much did the IRL cold approach until I was around 23 but even though I didn’t always have self confidence I was pretty enough to slide by on better than my local average but not Chad decent looks. I don’t envy Zoomers but eventually Gen Z men should get comfortable with dating being a numbers game and a 9:10 rejection rate is par the course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 12:59 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?Insightful comment. This dissociation between ideal and real experience episode is why many women insist that there is a correct way to show vulnerability. Many of them realize they miscalculated so they move the goal post and then tell men they need to learn to do it the right way so that they don’t feel the instant ick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 01:27 PM |
| 14 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?You made the claim that there was a correct way to show vulnerability so you must have an example you could provide that would help educate others on how men are supposed to be authentic and show vulnerability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 01:17 PM |
| 11 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?Can you give a detailed example of a man appropriately showing vulnerability? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?It’s not even crying. Me getting sick from a cold virus or COVID was enough to see a change in the way she looked at me. The same thing happens to men who were injured in active duty. He’s damaged == he’s weaker == he is not as attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 12:36 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?That’s your progressive rational brain talking. The next time you see a man you think is “hot” in a way that makes you steam up the mirror, pause and register what is it about him that is making you feel lust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying?Stoicism helped me put things in perspective for a while but then one young woman’s vibe and my irrational crush unraveled it and then I learned that I was using it as a crutch. It didn’t sink in until I learned to let go of yet another outcome. I don’t think many men will benefit from stoicism if they are not at first comfortable with being uncomfortable with their feelings. Furthermore, we shouldn’t point men towards stoicism as a way of disciplining men into making their inner feelings someth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Women's ability to attract men anywhere they are gives them way more freedom to do and live wherever they want.Finally a more nuanced topic. I think this could get interesting although I disagree when it comes to living in strongly religiously conservative cultures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Women's advice to men here is to keep them guessing, single, guilt tripped until they're so old they'll get creepshamed anywayActual unsolicited advice I got on messenger from a girl I dated a couple of times in high school. “That’s the kind of stuff that makes people wonder if you’re into aliens and crap so don’t ever say that on a date. You should just be you. That’s great just as it is. You don’t have to wonder if time travel exists. You’re amazing the way you are.” I didn’t take it toooo seriously but I’ve heard light advice so many times that seems to me contradictory. It usually starts with advice on not talking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 04:27 AM |
| 10 | Most men who date a younger woman are not doing it for nefarious reasonsThis right here is what’s wrong with people. We think we had to conform to some life prescription. If you’re doing a job and making enough money to enjoy your life then so be it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Most men who date a younger woman are not doing it for nefarious reasonsI haven’t posted here in a long time but stuff like this is why I bothered doing it later. The double standards are a mile long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Who else failed in their self-improvement journey?The frustration is real, but I guess in my phase I cheated by using OLD and working up from being catfished by someone who appeared 50 pounds less in her picture to some decent OLD and moving from there to meeting friends of women I knew. The self improvement works for you and it may actually be more worth it for getting positive male attention from guys who want to be bros with you. And being fit and on fleek will get you more respect in the workplace regardless of what your dating life is like… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/25 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Where to find “good girls”If you’re not in college already enroll in a course or two or go to grad school. Try CMB and maybe join a book club or something else social. If you don’t want to meet party and club girls, stay away from those places. | /r/seduction | 23/03/25 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?Most people don’t wait until abuse to justify divorce. Sometimes it’s just “I’m not happy now”. In the later cases, they have a major responsibility to the children to get over themselves and work on it because it’s not the children’s fault that the adults never learned to act like adults, hold themselves accountable and take responsibility. However, if verifiable provable abuse has occurred, then it seems that on average everyone is better off with the parents split up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/25 05:35 PM |
| 5 | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?The halo effect works in relationships too as long as trust and communication and connection are maintained. A lot of couples who married young stayed married because even though they started to age, they often still ride that halo effect of how it first felt and how they looked when they first dated. It’s too late for me now but it might can be recaptured if you meet up again with someone who knew you back when. It’s not just looks but the intensity of feelings too. I hate to say this but the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/25 02:12 AM |
| 8 | What do you think about the idea that women may put men into two groups- those who are “hookup/ONS” material and those who are “relationship/husband” material?I think some women eventually get marriage fever and fool themselves into believing they are attracted to the guy who is relentlessly after her hand, because sometimes attraction alone is attractive. They are probably in love with the idea of love and the guy is nice and a good friend but he is not what she would jump on immediately is she saw him at a party. Then one day she finds it harder and harder to get aroused with this “best friend” husband material man and then the sex declines and they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 02:42 AM |
| 0 | If in today's society, sex is not expected in a relationship, then faithfulness should not be expectedIf you don’t want to have sex with your spouse then leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 04:40 AM |
| 1 | If in today's society, sex is not expected in a relationship, then faithfulness should not be expectedYesh I’ve long suspected the huge rise in alleged “ace” dispositions to simply be people who choose their friends for relationships and talked themselves out of trying for those who actually make them wet between the legs. I’m sure true sexuality exists but I imagine most of those people rarely bother to date anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 04:38 AM |
| 5 | Feminists call for "vulva diversity" but shame small dicks in mainstream mediaEverything I listed above I’ve seen on Reddit or from female friends on Instagram. Reverse the gender on everything above and outage erupts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Feminists call for "vulva diversity" but shame small dicks in mainstream mediaNo but enough well known women do it and no one cancels them for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:02 AM |
| 8 | Feminists call for "vulva diversity" but shame small dicks in mainstream mediaThe relentless double standards are why I give a shot about posting here. Women can be Pervy and make comments about their friend’s teenage son being so handsome, proudly stalk men half their age for sex, and body shame men, but no one cares. “You go girl” lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 02:59 AM |
| 1 | If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps.Depends on your intent and the app audience. At the time I started Tinder (maybe 2018-2020) it was a dumpster fire and I rarely matched with someone I was consistently attracted to. Maybe one time that worked out in a date and more. I consider myself average but at the time I was working out more, running so I almost had a 4 pack, and was very on fleek about clothing I looks maxed myself to maybe 6-7 depending on her taste. Still, I swiped right probably 100s of times for women that truly peaked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/24 10:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue?Unless you join a league sport, martial arts or DnD, even all male groups are hard to find, but even when they’re available it’s just easier to fall into a new social group when you’re young and or probably because people are more likely to look a lot a single and lonely loner middle age male more negatively and give the middle aged divorced woman more benefit of doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 09:34 PM |
| 5 | Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue?I think social acceptance from others is harder for men over a certain age. When you’re in your 20s up to early 30s people give you a lot of benefit of a doubt as the new guy on the block when you open a new situation. When you’re older and have kids, joining new social circles is more complicated and difficult. I don’t think it’s as hard for divorced women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Women Are Having Significantly More Casual Sex Than Men, They Just Share The Men.We need to start pointing the finger at the players and through the brotherhood convince them to avoid sleeping below the LTR threshold. We need to hold more of the Chad’s and Tyrones accountable for ONS with women they wouldn’t date long term s d most men in that position know it. We all get lonely and want to prove ourselves for validation renewal. I hate to admit it but I’m one of those guys who slept with women on the first night after the beer goggles were on and I should have never let tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 01:38 AM |
| 10 | Men need to stop believing and spreading the idea that having sex with a lot of women is more ideal than just having sex with women you can find through your passionsFirst of all, if you’re in grad school, you are warned against dating in the department or your group. Second, many of the women in my science grad program had boyfriends or finances who were working on something sensible and lucrative. Its funny because these women even had guys move in with them or help buy a home for them so very few of them ever had the poor starving grad school student experience, but men in the program seldom had that experience and if they did they had family support wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?That means you were here type of love means showing physical affection. My argument allows for individual taste in what she would desire. All that matters is whether she genuinely is physically attracted to you and wants to wake you up with sex every now and then or show obvious signs of physical attraction. If she’s making excuses to avoid physical contact, she’s not States and is with her partner to be with a best friend for comfort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Submission is earned.I agree. When I rarely use the word submissive exactly because of the conflations you stated, and instead prefer to use ‘agreeable’ from the Big 5 psychology traits. Someone who is very agreeable and very open and but not overly extroverted or conscientious to obsession. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 02:46 AM |
| 2 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?Yes but we would be transparent about it probably - many top tier men can live that life and are up front about no promises | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 01:46 PM |
| 3 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?I could respect that if women were up front with it and honest about this, but many women will say anything and feign attraction to a guy who looks good to her parents and maybe others and fits the “husband material” category but will then behave differently once they are hitched. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?Your synopsis makes sense but it may be too binary and tidy. It’s possible to have been a mid tier guy one and still be settled for because you just don’t tick all the boxes but she recognizes that you are a decent option. The safe option beta option is not defined by your past experiences but is more relational to and moderated by what she is actually attracted to and how well you match that requirement - if you don’t match her attraction requirement more than 80% but you offer company and reso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 01:07 PM |
| 5 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?Go visit the r/deadbedroom sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/24 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?That sounds nice and I would love to believe that the majority of women are like that now. However I suspect that you are describing a noble minority of women. Attraction matters and if it isn’t there, the pair should not pair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/24 02:27 PM |
| 6 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?Why no one over 25 or maybe 30 ever sees this is beyond me. Sure, women decide that stability is important and they start looking for more provider traits but if they want to be accountable for their own happiness and actually stay happy, they will choose to only get in LTRs with men that keep the tingles flowing. Otherwise, they don’t respect the men they settle with and eventually resent them and then claim the guy isn’t trying hard enough to keep her or she will manufacture an emergency like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/24 02:25 PM |
| 2 | If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction.You just loved the goalposts. Men aren’t saying that women like to be abused. They’re saying that women are attracted to attractive men with resources who also exhibit dark triad traits like minor psychopathy. They are drawn to men who are experts at hiding their real vulnerabilities and who are geniuses and Machiavellian at performing fake vulnerability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 06:00 PM |
| 2 | If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction.50 Shades was successful with a primarily female audience so those women must be the ones who made the most personal connections to that work of fiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 05:55 PM |
| 2 | If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction.The fact that 50 shades was so successful tells us all we need to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Normalize saying you have a big vagina instead of "size queen"You’ve earned your white knight armor. Where it well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 05:46 AM |
| 2 | Normalize saying you have a big vagina instead of "size queen"On Reddit all the time. I think you know better that most women don’t openly share that in public except with very few good friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 05:42 AM |
| 3 | If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player?I would take an average woman who is agreeable, and open over an 8-10 that is entitled and disagreeable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/24 04:08 AM |
| 1 | If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player?This doesn’t look like anything to me. Seriously though, the next best thing is meeting someone with those qualities and values early enough to start a family and enjoy vacations together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 12:23 PM |
| 3 | If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player?This is the way. Many times though the highest value may mean a woman who is average or slightly above, but is smart, educated, has good family values and her behavior with kids and adversity indicates that she would make a great mom. I would get my Chad pill, go back in time and find the best home town girl out of high school and settle early. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 05:58 PM |
| 13 | If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player?I would do it for a month just to see how it works but I suspect I would start to feel soulless and guilty after that. The number one reason to increase your attractiveness as a man is not to be a player but to increase your the doors your can open, your romantic options and your ability to be more discerning about your options and escape the scarcity mindset that keeps many average guys in relationships where they are only there as a placeholder source of comfort and resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 05:55 PM |
| 3 | Are there certain sex acts you'd perform with some men but not others due to how hot you find them?I should not have read this before bed. Crikey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Most men are what Esther Vilar called 'The Manipulated Man'.“It can be rewarding if you find a good partner”. It “CAN” be is a big if. How many men think they have someone easy going and agreeable only to find out later that after the chase and courting they are left tending duty to a disagreeable neurotic mess who never knew what she really wanted and revokes all the interesting sexual rewards she offered daily in the beginning and maybe will allow 1-2 positions that please her 2-3 times a month? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Women ask men to improve emotionally, yet their dating preferences often incentivize men to focus on material success and physical appearanceA woman thinking she’s a “finished product” - sounds like a serious red flag to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 03:25 AM |
| 0 | The idea of men needing to be "nice" really needs to die alreadyThis 💯 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 09:36 PM |
| 2 | Women ask men to improve emotionally, yet their dating preferences often incentivize men to focus on material success and physical appearanceThe women overseas are already over here. When I started using Coffee Meets Bagel by success with OLD elevated. That and expanding a social circle via another girl I dated or wanted to date helped. There are a lot of Asian and non Western women on CMB which is where I had the most success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Women ask men to improve emotionally, yet their dating preferences often incentivize men to focus on material success and physical appearanceThis realization is what makes me a deep purple man (red and blue darkened with black) and not a red piller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Women ask men to improve emotionally, yet their dating preferences often incentivize men to focus on material success and physical appearanceThey want the finished product. They politely turn away from someone that has to still work on their mental, physical and financial wellness. Blessed is the man who can find a woman early in life who loves him for his thoughts, imperfect features and personality, who will journey with him through the ups and downs of life. Don’t waste time asking women what they like or want because they will probably self censor and tell you something that sounds nice and won’t hurt your feelings. Spend more ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 07:49 PM |
| 4 | Women are poor communicatorsWhy take so long and oblique a path to - can you all shut it or turn the volume up!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/24 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Women are poor communicatorsI hope that more women see the difference between assertive problem solving and nagging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/24 03:42 AM |
| 26 | Women are poor communicatorsI’m not sure if it’s poor communication or intentionally oblique defensive gymnastics to remain in a position of plausible deniability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/24 03:29 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys stay positive and avoid things like insecurity and self-esteem issues in the face of rejection?Being able to be openly and publicly sad or vulnerable about anything other than the death of a family member or close friend is a woman’s privilege. I even got some concerned, I can’t believe you’re doing that in public, when I cried at my dad’s funeral a few years back. Despite what should be or what people say, being emotionally vulnerable as a man is a no go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 04:56 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys stay positive and avoid things like insecurity and self-esteem issues in the face of rejection?Sometimes in the past. If you’re talking older men, he probably married her young and was good looking. Past generations ages harder than people now. Also, male attractiveness does not always mean BTS pretty boy. Many women after they turn 21 or so like the men who are very masculine but maybe not very pretty in the face. Anytime I hear about a pretty girl with an ugly guy, I instantly think she’s probably not more than a 6 and he’s probably a 5 or maybe a 4 in the face, but he’s well endowed or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 04:48 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys stay positive and avoid things like insecurity and self-esteem issues in the face of rejection?And that’s the tragedy. Someone needs to interview the lucky guys who end up marrying a decent looking, fun but sweet hometown girl early in life. This will get downvoted but if I had a young son I would be sure to get him out away from the suburbs and into a smaller but not desolate town, expose him to everything a boy should know and encourage him to try to date early and marry early. If couples are decent looking, have fun and marry young, the halo effect and a higher value system will carry … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 04:42 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys stay positive and avoid things like insecurity and self-esteem issues in the face of rejection?Some of the most beautiful inside and out women seem to be those hometown girls and that’s what Josh Turner captured in his song “Hometown Girl”. “She couldn’t hide her beauty with a baseball cap Couldn’t help but shine with a heart like that New York called when she turned 21 But she never forgot where she came from I need a pretty little homegrown hometown girl With a ribbon tying back those waterfall curls I’ve been looking all over, all over the world For a pretty little homegrown hometown g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 04:36 AM |
| 4 | How do you guys stay positive and avoid things like insecurity and self-esteem issues in the face of rejection?If you’re male you have to learn to accept that 95 or more times out of 100 you will not get the outcome you wanted when it comes to women you’re attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Sam Bankman-Fried's girlfriend Caroline. Um, what?That may work if she’s a freak with her main partner too. I just don’t understand the guys who stick around with a dead bedroom knowing she’s getting it on the side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 05:55 PM |
| – | I DON'T buy that men who date a younger woman do it because they're easier to manipulateI think there’s more to it than not wanting to be a step dad but you’re right, it’s not because men are Machiavellian SOBs who want to manipulate younger women. For me it was more about attitude and openness and maybe less neuroticism. The women I befriended and dated under 27 or so cared less about checking off lists for financial stability and material nesting and whatever other lists women almost 30 to 40 start. No that does not mean we aren’t responsible. We just want to talk about and hear … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 02:24 PM |
| 3 | Men should approach less and reject moreI flaired myself “purple pill man” because I accept some RP type social heuristics (lift, fashion, work on mission, she’s not yours - it’s only your turn, minor hypergamy and dual mating strategy of women), but believe that much of the detailed RP prescriptions are too extreme and potentially toxic to all genders. That said I completely agree with this and there were many times when I let things progress when I should not have done so - because I knew I was not open to a relationship and may hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:54 PM |
| 15 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Agreed. Women may mean that but we often read or hear that personality and character matter more then physical appearance. When pressed for how much appearance still matters many women will say it matters but is moderated by other factors - while downplaying the actual importance of appearance. It’s almost like they are split minded on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:20 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: What goes through your mind when you hear "The sexiest thing a man can do is XYZ"?I think men have to perform a lot more than men just to be in the game and keep a partner. Women simply have to have basic hygiene, wear cute clothes and nice expressions, not be obese and not be over neurotic and disagreeable and that’s really about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 02:30 PM |
| 2 | If most men followed the "look for implicit attraction signals / read the room / make sure there is some interest" advice that is given, most men would have minimal opportunities💯 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 01:49 PM |
| 1 | If most men followed the "look for implicit attraction signals / read the room / make sure there is some interest" advice that is given, most men would have minimal opportunitiesI’ve asked women here multiple times how they let a man know that she is interested and almost every time they say some variation of “oh, he will know”…. Some specifics would be nice but o suppose they like to keep their secrets. But if they want more men to approach them in the post #MeToo age they will reconsider the coy act and take the initiative more and share with men what behaviors actually indicate romantic interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 01:48 PM |
| 1 | If most men followed the "look for implicit attraction signals / read the room / make sure there is some interest" advice that is given, most men would have minimal opportunitiesDespite what I say here i think both the TRPers and PUA types oversimplify things in regards to attraction. They probably do that at first to make the principles easier to internalize. Try making eye contact first but don’t stare. See if she then returns the eye contact in a friendly sort of way with a slight smile. If she starts staring a hole through your head, walk away lol. If she gives you a playful look, repeat the process and then see if you can start a conversation. Honestly, I’ve had mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 01:36 PM |
| – | What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution?Men want to feel valued for who they are and not for the status and benefits they bestow upon others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 08:53 PM |
| – | What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution?And your anecdote. I think most men here are thinking of a bigger societal issue and not individual experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 08:51 PM |
| – | What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution?Thank you for your amazing words because this captures perfectly the main pressures that inhibit men from taking themselves forward and not of the grind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 08:45 PM |
| – | What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution?And allow men to have their safe spaces where they can let their guard down and stop performing for everyone’s approval. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 08:31 PM |
| – | What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution?Amen brother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 08:30 PM |
| – | What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution?Your question feels like a loaded question that glosses over the modern barriers to entry for modern 21st century men. There are a number of reasons men are now in this lonely place and most of them are social and structural and not the direct fault of women. Men more than ever feel objectified but not objectified in the same women complained about feeling like they are not sexual objects to men. Men carry the burden of being a product that promises benefits to women and if they can’t sell that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 08:30 PM |
| 5 | If a lady is not being intimate with you, it means you are not attractive enough or not trust worthy enoughCan you unpack this a little more. For men sex is intimacy and desire is proof of attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 12:53 PM |
| 9 | If a lady is not being intimate with you, it means you are not attractive enough or not trust worthy enoughThis. You don’t have to go all the way before you know that desire is there. Some of my favorite moments were long sessions of naked kissing and edging that never quite got there. But I was young and stupid and eventually wanted an easier option than the genuinely good Christian girl who was into me but showing amazing restraint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 12:35 PM |
| 12 | If a lady is not being intimate with you, it means you are not attractive enough or not trust worthy enoughNo one is shaming women for this behavior when they’re honest about it. What frustrates the men more is when women deny this strategy and say that they truly are attracted to “safety guys” when they are truly not attracted to them. We simply want guys to know when they are fighting a losing battle and therefore when to walk away and find someone truly, physically attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 12:32 PM |
| 27 | If a lady is not being intimate with you, it means you are not attractive enough or not trust worthy enoughI’ll add that I wouldn’t require sex on the 1st or 2nd date but I would want to see her desire for it. If she’s not anticipating a kiss and meeting you halfway there, she’s not physically attracted to you and if that’s true it means she’s just dating you for comfort and support. That means you were settled for as a smart choice backup plan. Attraction can’t be negotiated - seek and show attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 12:27 PM |
| – | Would you rather be with a man who’s very good looking but is reserved and quiet or a mid looking/ugly man who is very charismatic and outgoing?Do you ever go to clubs or bars? Maybe this is relevant because the guys that go there and fail might be better off going where the girls who don’t like that go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 12:34 PM |
| 3 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.This is gold and this is what I would change about my “taste the world of women tour 2018-2021” lol. Men are much better off staying off OLD and using friend groups to meet more women, staying on their path and mission for the career, and being who they are. That doesn’t mean that they can’t be themselves but in better shape with more interesting experiences, but you shouldn’t change your interests for the sake of validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 03:10 PM |
| 2 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.You didn’t refute what I have seen. Instead you equate conference attending to casual deep conversation about topics outside of professional settings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 02:08 PM |
| 2 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.Looking back on my own experience, I think this helped me a lot. Once I built up a few new female friends it made talking to new ones and potential dates feel more natural. Getting to know some female peers from school or work should be a prerequisite for any cis man who wants to date women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 06:49 AM |
| 2 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.Since you brought it up, there are a lot of smart and capable women out there and the ones in stem or even social science at the graduate school level seem to pursue their degrees or life’s work more for achievement and how it makes them feel to “be smart”. They talks about loving it but don’t seem to love talking at depth about any of their mind pursuits. On the other hand, many men from all education levels, given they are above a certain intelligence threshold, love to analyze and dig deeper … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 06:41 AM |
| 2 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.Thank you! Love the username. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 06:35 AM |
| 3 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.It’s truly sucks that some advice out there tells you that you need to change your interests and become some imitation of another guy to get anywhere. Plus if you find the girl that actually goes along with your talk about your true interests than you know you have a keeper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 06:04 AM |
| – | Why is it so common for young women to not want kids ?There are plenty of hot in shape moms and plenty of out of shape childless women over 35 with what might as well be “wrecked bodies”. How do we quantify this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 03:02 AM |
| – | Why is it so common for young women to not want kids ?This was the most insightful, thoughtful, wise beyond years and most well written comment I’ve read on Reddit in a long, long time. Thank you for restoring some of my faith in humanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 02:55 AM |
| – | Why is it so common for young women to not want kids ?And that is where I think it started as propaganda to halt birth rates in the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 02:49 AM |
| – | Average guys are made to feel "dirty" for having a sexual desire💯 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:06 PM |
| – | Average guys are made to feel "dirty" for having a sexual desireI did not “allow” I that one sided way at all. When I read allow I take it to mean the person has agency and is willingly choosing to engage in such behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Since I've lost most of my muscles, I've also lost a lot of respect from people, specially attractive women and young men (the jacked ones).This hit hard. Work and other factors hit my lift and running routines hard the last two years. I was probably in the best shape in 2018-2019 and 2021-2022 before and after COVID. In those times I often noticed that a lot of guys would give me space and open up a berth around me so I rarely had to say pardon me to get around in a crowded room. Since my lift and fashion game has slacked I feel either more invisible or less respected. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/07/24 04:32 AM |
| 0 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?Your best bet as a young man is to work on yourself, craft, and career first, and maintain a solid core group of friends. Then when you increase your own personal qualities learn about the red flags to watch out for when dating women. Increasing your value will increase your independence and increase your dating options and allow you the freedom to walk away from toxic women without concern for validation or living single. Getting ahead and learning to avoid toxic women you can’t fix will save y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?They are in relationships but are these good relationships where the men are valued and seen as attractive or is there any data on that? Men just don’t want to be a friend for monetary and emotional support. They want attraction and devotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 03:49 PM |
| 13 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?Some women will respond to this with an army of strawmen chanting “we can’t change what we find attractive in a partner” - missing the point that working on themselves and taking accountability for their behavior will improve their chances in keeping a partner that will be happy and fulfilled committing to a LTR. It’s not all about looks. There are plenty of women in the arbitrary 4-9 range of physical attractiveness who have toxic behavior traits that drive people away or make those that have c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellAgreed. It’s the whole “when I was your age I was older” phenomenon. However, when I see old black and whites of past generations of men I feel like I see more testosterone and ruggedness, but people loved hard and aged hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 01:39 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age well💯 and no one here is accounting for that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 06:02 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellBoth Henry Cavil and Hugh Jackman got better looking after 30 but that was probably a product of their workout regimens and fitness and nutrition coaching. Sure if men and women both let themselves go, they age just about as poorly. However, if both keep themselves in shape and get hormone replacement when needed, then men probably have a little more mileage and some like Brad Pitt and Idris Elba could push the wall back to their early 50s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 06:01 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellIf that’s the case then we should question whether those under 25 should be eligible for the draft, eligible to buy alcohol or eligible to vote. But that’s not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:53 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellI mean early 40s and mostly late 20s but she looked younger than 27. A couple of dates when 39 and early 20s but that became more of a friends situation due to mutual indecision lol which sounds like cope I admit. But I also included the being out and about part because sometimes it was just grad school friends and if it was just me and 1-2 females I would get the occasional stare and glare or head shaking from women in their mid 30s and beyond. I’ve also had male and female friends that older t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:43 PM |
| -1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellA lot of people let themselves go after marriage probably. That’s said, if an average or above man goes hardcore into working out, learns how to dress and groom well for his features, he will probably have more mileage than his female peers the same age. Think of how many male celebrities at or over 40 who still get lots of positive attention from women and actually looked good for a while through middle age versus how many female celebrities continued to look as good as their younger days and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 04:48 AM |
| -4 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellI’ve dated almost exclusively younger in general by accident and it’s almost always women my age (40s) or older who acted weird when it was obvious I was out with a woman in her 20s. Men rarely batted an eye unless it was for approval, and younger women hardly ever said anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 04:38 AM |
| 22 | Do you think women can just passively exist and still get relationships?This is a really good argument nowadays. I think past generations pressured women to do more to maintain their looks and maintain their reputation, but it seems like most young women today are mostly free from men or elders proffering SMV advice. Sure they can feel a little bad comparing themselves to an Instagram model, but for the most part they can get by with an average, slightly overweight or skinny fat body, dress however they want, drive any old car and live messy and it doesn’t diminish … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 04:55 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?This response hits right. I’ve lived through that transition and something happens that I can’t quite explain when you live through some experiences but come back in shape enough to go again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:47 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Chad also has to have minimum game. This guys friend describes the friend as “handsome” but the friend is biased. If he is as good looking as they say and is not extremely socially awkward or has some other disorder that makes him never want to go out from school or home, then he should have women dropping him flirts enough. Apparently he does get attention but he’s not attracted to those women. There’s something missing here that the OP doesn’t see or is leaving out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:38 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?You say he’s handsome and has a low body fat percentage but you don’t give us enough details to let us know if he actually is what most women would call “hot”. Some men can be “nice looking” but not cross over into the hot category. Is he noticeably jacked? Does he have a six pack? Does he have a face and style that will make women look twice? Does he have a slightly bad boy witty charm that will get women interested in talking more or does he talk like he’s just one of the women? The expectatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:31 AM |
| 38 | Social media hasn't just raised standards through access, it's also exposed us to the awful realities of male and female behaviorI suspect that the inflation in looks standards arising out of social media insta models and reality TV over time increased shallow tendencies among the most attraction privileged in western society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 01:50 PM |
| 1 | In response to the "why are promiscuous women undesirable but doesn't necessarily apply to promiscuous men"The key that opens many different doors demonstrates more value than the door that is unlocked by many different keys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 09:42 AM |
| 3 | In response to the "why are promiscuous women undesirable but doesn't necessarily apply to promiscuous men"That was oddly specific lol. Why did she leave D1 - or did he leave her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 09:39 AM |
| 1 | In response to the "why are promiscuous women undesirable but doesn't necessarily apply to promiscuous men"Settling is the road to a dead bedroom and likely divorce. Perhaps women would rather be miserable than alone, and men would rather be alone than miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 09:36 AM |
| – | Does Agreeableness Actually Matter?Leaving this here for the actual research based definition of “agreeableness”. This definition is what I suspect the original RP writers/bloggers were working from. “Agreeableness refers to how people tend to treat relationships with others. Unlike extraversion which consists of the pursuit of relationships, agreeableness focuses on people’s orientation and interactions with others (Ackerman, 2017).” Those high in agreeableness (and presumably low in neuroticism) will demonstrate a high level of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 12:43 PM |
| – | Does Agreeableness Actually Matter?She’s not naturally agreeable. She act is feigned deference. You don’t fake core personality traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 03:27 AM |
| – | Does Agreeableness Actually Matter?I ended up preferring an easy to get along with and go with the flow “agreeable” 5 over a 6 (7 body) who was definitely low in agreeability and would often times be the wet blanket in a group. Over the long haul, men over 25 or so would much rather be with an agreeable plain Jane who bakes for him and always has good vibes to bring than a malcontent who may be more toned and attractive but is always picky and complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 03:23 AM |
| 16 | Chasing women is a huge waste of time.Personally experiencing this, knowing it and learning from it with eyes wide open is the real red pill moment for most men. If it doesn't taste bitter at first, it wasn't a real RP moment. Waking up to reality and then getting proactive about it with what they got is how most men recover and avoid going "black pill". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Chasing women is a huge waste of time.I agree but "chasing women" for a while built up my self-efficacy, helped me understand my value, and endowed me with valuable experience in how to read women for personal qualities that would make them great partners or mothers. The ideal is for every young man to be mentored by older men and some trustworthy honest older women, spend some time dating for experience, then focus on his career mission and hobbies and spend minimal time looking for "misses right". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 02:47 PM |
| 6 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.I think most men are more easily pleased and happy with far less than women think they require and far less than women require to be content and happy. Most men would be delighted to partner with an average looking chill woman who is high in agreeableness, but low in neuroticism and in the middle with everything else, who shows sexual interest in him, and likes to surprise him from time to time with something she made or wrote. Most lower 80% men (those who can't get scores of dates on Tinder wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 02:23 PM |
| 1 | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?My thoughts now that I am in my early 40s. I dated in high school and had sex then too, but I had no idea what I was doing and the nascent internet had little to offer in the way of advice and self-help. I always thought I was falling in love and fell hard and felt rejection hard from the girls I pursued, but then I would on the other hand meet girls from another school at a party every now and then and make out and almost hook up, but I didn't know how to close the deal as much, and rarely saw … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 04:02 PM |
| 2 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSIt's like they don't even notice that what they are attracted to is hardly surprising. Pete Davidson is 6'3" and lean. Adam Driver is 6'2" and jacked lol. They don't have the most perfect model faces, but their faces are no less than average. It's just that height, body and status weights attraction in their favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThe difference is men don't deny their preferences when someone points them out. Worse, men will be told they are insensitive and shallow if they don't find unhealthy looking women attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:48 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Love and romance is dead by the time people are in their 30sThis may not change your view but it’s my experience. I’m a male in his early 4th decade and I have taken in love madly after 30 and then on, had better sex in my 30s and starting 40s probably due to experience and learning yoga and body control. However the times I fell madly for a girl (they were both younger) they were interested in something short term but the madly in love was not in them. So I agree that the “Romeo and Juliet” experience was mostly gone and replaced with more mature apprec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 06:49 AM |
| 3 | What Metrics “Should” Women be attracted to?You can’t force attraction. That said, the nicest thing to do is to be completely honest with yourself and potential mates about what you find attractive and never settle for a guy who looks decent on paper and to the family, but doesn’t give you the tingles. One of the major relationship issues men over 30 talk about here and elsewhere is that it’s much worse as a man to discover you were the safety choice, the stable settled for choice, than to be rejected outright by a woman who is self-aware… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 08:46 PM |
| 0 | This is very anecdotal, but as a man, i miss the attention, do others also?Why people don’t see that most of a man’s life among strangers is dog eat dog is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 03:50 AM |
| 1 | This is very anecdotal, but as a man, i miss the attention, do others also?Men get a lot of criticism for exaggerating and overstating their confidence, but this right here is one of the many reasons why we have to. If we don’t we lose and many lose to the rope unfortunately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 03:41 AM |
| 2 | Many men only want women for sex and validation, because that is the only thing they cannot get on their ownThis is reality. Needs are also socially and culturally constructed. While the socially awkward introverted scientist or inventor may not “need” physically confirmed sexual touch by another to maintain a pulse and brain activity, the lack of it is felt as not living a full life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 01:18 PM |
| 0 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?I dated women 10-15 years younger than me from around 32 to 39 then COVID hit and 40s too lol. It’s possible if you’re in shape and on fleek until maybe your 40s. Maybe longer if you have status and looks. I don’t want that TRP life though. I just want someone who’s attractive to me, somewhat in shape, and easy going and agreeable and maybe somewhat nerdy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:58 AM |
| 0 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?Good example but I would call wife goggles halo effect. But attitude is a big determinant. Most men probably don’t stray on looks alone unless she just totally transforms into Jabba the Hut. Rather, men probably stray more when their wives become more malcontent, less fun and easy going, and expect more and more while offering less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:38 AM |
| 0 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?Most men understand that some parts of looks fade but they can accept it so long as she stays fun and agreeable. Nagging bitchy bitterness or possessive clinging did more to derail my attraction than any slight downgrade in some aspect of appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?The halo effect. The few higher social status people who dated in high school or undergraduate years in college then married early are probably more likely to stay together if things go smoothly the first 5 years or so. I don’t have the research but I read a statistic somewhere that second marriages or more likely to fail than first marriages. The advantage for those who marry early and have a smooth start is the halo effect. Even though your partner ages a big part of you still connects to and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:32 AM |
| 4 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDIt’s not a rare event. The general consensus is a range of 2-30% and that’s a huge range. Once you limit the pool to those contesting custody the incidence is around 2-3 out every 10 cases. I asked the Bing AI chat and this is what I got which seems to be a decent starting point for the discussion. “Paternity fraud is when a man is incorrectly identified as the biological father of a child. It can be intentional or accidental. According to different sources, the incidence of paternity fraud vari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 01:22 PM |
| 9 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDBased. This is the way. If people can accept prenuptial agreements about debt and assets they can accept this if they are forthright and honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 01:19 PM |
| 13 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDThere is no good reason. I fully support paternity testing at birth or before. The vehement opposition is a tell and men should take notice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:59 PM |
| 1 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.I agree. I mean I got signs early on from the 2 ladies from 5 then 4 years ago, but I was over cautious at first because the signs were mostly in expression and laughter and not overt and obviously obvious like having say “I really like you” or “take me now” lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 03:21 PM |
| 1 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.” 1) I think what's so painful about the friendzone is you guys were a good match, you just sucked at making moves was all and now your chance is up. If I get rejected by a hot girl who never liked me, I don't really care. But if I get rejected by a woman I like who was initially super into me, it hurts sooooo much more. It's like that feeling of having something good slip between your fingers. “ This really drove the stake point home for me again. I met someone, crikey, about 5.25 years ago and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single?My dating life took off again between 2018 and early 2020 right before and in the beginning of Covid. The reason I preferred to be single and on the lookout instead of in a LTR is because I am not very good at providing validation and ensuring comfort or I don’t have much much patience for it. I don’t like taking “comfort test” nor do I like having to prove myself. Hanging out and having a good time? Sure. Being someone’s foundation mirror and emotional tampon? Not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 12:19 AM |
| 3 | Passport Bros prove that Women’s Hypergamy isn’t the issue but the fact that some men can’t do the same.That’s an extreme income disparity example that is very unlikely to happen. I think the 50 year old guy might have some fun with the 21 year old but not think seriously about marrying her - maybe if he was 40ish and she was a little older. If the guy was making that much, he wouldn’t have much attraction for the wealth of an overweight women making $300. A better scenario would be a guy in his 40s making ~120k - a fit, slightly above average (6-7) woman early 20s making less than 40k and an aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:37 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Whats your thoughts on men dating younger women? 6+ years age differenceI agree and same perspective change here. Now I still it find it cringe when older men or women who are not keeping themselves up still try and flirt with younger in-shape and in fashion people. If you’re not really where you need to be to play the game, don’t come up to bat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 02:06 PM |
| 1 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guyI wouldn’t now. If it was a trend that was trying to that she tried to rationalize, I would explain that I’m not looking for competition anymore, and I would bow out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guyIt’s not just being sullen. It was accompanied by withdrawing attention in the form of no talking and no touching. No ‘dread’ advice I read said to do it just to keep her on her toes. It was always in response to some behavior like flirting too much with other men (if the relationship is defined) or when she withdraws affection or shows disdain. I never said I supported it wholesale but the concept is an algorithmic shorthand for avoiding becoming someone’s doormat - in a language that’s direct … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 05:12 AM |
| 3 | Bar is too Low for men .They dont even do bare minimumThat’s been my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 10:34 PM |
| 2 | Bar is too Low for men .They dont even do bare minimumThat just sounds like prep school people problems. People will find anything to complain about. It’s ridiculous and laughable. Just grow up already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Bar is too Low for men .They dont even do bare minimumI thought having someone in your contacts with their maiden name would be viewed as very respectful and thoughtful? Just goes to show you that you never know and you really can never win unless you look like a Hemsworth or Idris Elba lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 10:31 PM |
| 1 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guyYou may be looking only at yourself but almost every woman I’ve dated has played some sort of dread at some point. If I did something like show up late or not act excited enough about her new dress, she would act sullen and withdraw affection. Sometimes if I was seeming to take things for granted, she would suddenly be more receptive to other men flirting. It’s the same behaviors except this time it’s men learning to okay that same game that women have been playing for a long time. The mistake m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 07:35 PM |
| 1 | The Wall For MenAgreed. I think the responses address the issue and should be all the correction that is needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | The Wall For MenI don’t think a “the wall” is NOT the best analogy here. I think what you are describing, with the OP is describing, is the bitter taste of the red pill when you first accept it. When it dawns on you that there are some things that you cannot change, that unfairly determines attraction for women, and when you learned that women are just as shallow, if not more shallow and more fickle about attractions in men, that’s when the red pill begins to descend, and you experience its bitter taste. But wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 01:52 PM |
| 1 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guyYour example is hardcore dread. I don’t really know the range of what is in the dread playbook, but I was thinking of more low key ways of demonstrating worth like playing it up when another woman flirts and pulling back on the attention as light dread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 05:53 AM |
| 6 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guyThis is the sober accurate perspective. You know they say one thing and then when some guy comes back to them and says “we’ll I dropped some ‘dread’ and withheld attention and comfort but then she yelled at me and stormed off” they will turn around and say “bro, you didn’t read the comfort signals correctly. You need to show her you care” and proceed to say the opposite of the advice they normally give on Reddit and then claim the other person was autistic and didn’t know how to calibrate. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:13 PM |
| 1 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guyThis is the 4D chess move I suspected in the back of my mind. Adapting some of the female preference directed self-improvement advice and outcome independence reinforcement helped me improve my dating scene, but I could only scale up so far starting from slightly below average and moving to a 6-7 depending on how buff and defined I was at the time (2018-2019) and how well I was dressed. You’re right OP. Many of the men who preach “enjoy the decline” are the ones that know or delusionally think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 01:59 PM |
| 3 | As a leftist man, I believe that men are better off not pursuing progressive/feminist/leftist women for long-term relationships.Don’t circle jerk lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 04:46 AM |
| 6 | As a leftist man, I believe that men are better off not pursuing progressive/feminist/leftist women for long-term relationships.Great post brother. I think this is why I’ve tended to do better with Asian women from more conservative countries than with liberal US women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to one type of men - those out of their leagueI agree with this. Past me didn’t want to, because I was that guy who slept down sometimes, but I really see now that men who do this are much of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to one type of men - those out of their leagueThis concern is legit but most of the privelege is for younger women under 32 (arbitrary line) - and is more pronounced for girls 18-23. When a young woman is 18-23 she can be medically overweight but the weight will really sit well and enhance the right places (breasts, butt) and she will have a youthful face and vibe. But the women I know who are over 35 and overweight don’t really have the same privilege and if she wants to compete she usually has to try harder and workout. There are other is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 03:03 PM |
| 1 | 30 Years is not old at all and stop listening to so much bad adviceAwesome analogy. But then again there is a lot more variation among humans than ants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 03:22 PM |
| 1 | 30 Years is not old at all and stop listening to so much bad adviceHear hear! I had some of the dating best experiences of my life after crossing over the 30 year mark. Yes I could get horny all day at the slightest breeze in my supposed sexual peak of 17-22, but I also didn’t know or care enough how to touch a woman, and I did not or could not control the “ascent and descent” as well. Quality experience trumps quantity. I also probably did things when I had had too much to drink so there’s that. Sometime in my late 20s and early 30s I learned more about techni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.How do you operationally define “emotionally available”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Your partner should be your best friend. Everything else is just details.But bffs that have sex often. I have zero interest in a marriage primarily defined as taking the role of best friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?I appreciate the attempt, but there is a fundamental issue with the way this question is presented. The problem here is that many women probably have no idea that guys are simping on them unless the guy is not really desired and he’s not a doing her a lot of favors and volunteer labor. Fact is, guys going over and above to contact and call them and drop messages and offer favors is normalized to the point that women don’t really notice it as sexual interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 02:17 PM |
| 1 | The existence of a concept such as "Madonna/whore complex" shows that society demonizes male sexuality.Man here and I would not marry someone that didn’t interest me sexually nor could I exist long term like that. She would also have to want to jump me every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | The existence of a concept such as "Madonna/whore complex" shows that society demonizes male sexuality.This idea doesn’t really exist for women, even though they kind of want the same thing. Women simply want a hot, very masculine and sexual guy, who is tough towards others, maybe even assertive and aggressive towards others, but a sweet, nice and caring Chad with a heart of gold to them. This is by no means the only double standard where something is socially sanctioned for women but demonized and shamed for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.This is great advice. All male family members and male role models need to make this their mission for all young men they mentor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 02:02 PM |
| 3 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.Words of wisdom. All the teens and guys under 25 or so should follow your example. Work on yourself first and keep your eye on the mission of building a life of inner and material wealth. The tang will come later. The more you are free and can provide, the less effort it takes to bring in the honey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 01:59 PM |
| 2 | What Are The Weirdest/Most Random Reasons You’ve Lost Interest In Someone?I lost libido interest when one ex would say “oh [my name] my love” during sex. It just sounded too sweetly restrained. I was thinking I would rather hear her moaning loud and making a lot of noise and talking dirty. The next isn’t weird but is not a good reason. We had only met 3 weeks prior and had only gone on 2-3 dates and she was just love bomb texting me more than I could handle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 02:03 PM |
| 1 | What do women gain from having relationships with red-pilled men vs. blue-pilled men?They get men who are more self-assured with women and validation independent, and probably men who are actively trying to max out. From bluepill guys and BP white knights, women probably get someone willing to give more comfort and who are willing to give up their own time to build up resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat’s why I wish abortion protesters would instead donate time and money to a charity that helped with adoption services and monetary support during the pregnancy and the first few years until pre-K if the mother did not give up the pregnancy and child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 04:33 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen don’t even use fatphobic when women are putting down men for being overweight. When they put down overweight men, it’s usually viewed as justified because the man was middle aged, had a gut but still admired youthful women - or because of the wrong politics, or they say the guy should “work on himself” if he is complaining about getting dates. I don’t have a problem getting dates myself, but I have to speak up about the double standards and double talk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 11:29 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadShould be interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 11:26 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI’m asking in good faith. Do you have sources for those statistics? Or at least a suggested search string? If those numbers are true, and less than 1% is due to rate, then the other 80 to 90% just being because people were careless is appalling. And when I said how is it possible that people still get pregnant after using condoms and female birth-control, I was assuming that most people were being idiots or selfish hedonists and not even attempting to use protection or any kind of birth control … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think what would be more enlightening than that statistic is percentages for the reasons why women wanted to get an abortion, as in how is it possible that after safe sex using birth control and so on, a pregnancy occurred outside of a serious relationship or marriage? I will go on the record as pro choice but I do not like the idea of abortions at all. I think that’s an OK stance but not one I could be openly public about too much. That said I believe we do have the science and the birth cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 09:14 PM |
| 0 | some say men are having less sex than ever some say the same others say way more than ever so whose right?Ok buddy. I’m not an incel. I was doing fairly well before COVID and a year after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | some say men are having less sex than ever some say the same others say way more than ever so whose right?Maybe you can go look and post it here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 12:14 PM |
| 4 | some say men are having less sex than ever some say the same others say way more than ever so whose right?Do you think anyone would do a modern study on fluid intelligence and race these days? Just stating the topic would be enough to have the review board disapprove and for the researcher to be banned from all research institutions. I don’t support my example but I think this topic that seems in line with the “incel doctrine” is just as controversial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 12:02 PM |
| 2 | some say men are having less sex than ever some say the same others say way more than ever so whose right?I think COVID helped the rich get richer. I was conscientious about COVID and subsequently stopped OLD for about a year or more. Meanwhile the fbois, Chad and Tyrone didn’t give a shite about COVID and kept on plowing through the field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 11:59 AM |
| 2 | some say men are having less sex than ever some say the same others say way more than ever so whose right?What did they write? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 11:46 AM |
| 7 | some say men are having less sex than ever some say the same others say way more than ever so whose right?I came here to say this. The effect is not linear. The top 10% of men are having a lot more sex because of OLD and hookup culture, the next 10% may be having more sex but are probably just keeping the current observed amount up with the expected amount. The men in the 60-80th percentile may be having the same amount of sexual activity or slightly less than in the past. The men around 60th percentile and lower are probably having less sex than past generation men at the same tier level. And male … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 11:44 AM |
| 1 | You’re not good enough to be averageTrue. The previous comment would come off as more accurate if it said “women rarely go through the same process of approach and rejection”. I assume most near average women (4-5) have at least one person approaching them at all times, so asking someone out who may be more ideal is not really an opportunity to reinforce scarcity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:27 PM |
| 1 | You’re not good enough to be averageExactly. It’s amazing how much you can think about the experiences of others when you escape solipsism. Ever notice how many of the females here simply cite their own anecdotal experience as evidence that men’s aggregate experiences are wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 11:43 AM |
| 1 | You’re not good enough to be averageThey won’t care so long as there are enough Chads, Tyrones and white knights - and maybe some cuckable “husband material” guys to be their comfort blankets when they need support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:44 AM |
| 4 | You’re not good enough to be averageYour personal sample size of 1 proves wrong all the men who spent years of observation watching the field and taking note. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:39 AM |
| 1 | You’re not good enough to be averageAre you okay? You seem like something is really eating at you and destroying you from the inside out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve?One key insight here is that men seem to receive more harsh judgement for attempts for direct cover ups or compensations for attraction. Most people don’t shame women for wearing heels to make their legs stand out or look longer, or shame women for wearing makeup or even for wearing hair extensions. However, men who use some kind of cosmetic enhancement are all but ridiculed. And I don’t think this can be blamed on “toxic masculinity” or the “patriarchy”. Women are often the ones doing the ridic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to what they find attractiveBut women like trophy men too until they reach a certain age or lifestyle. Being good looking and extremely fit is a status element for males. Sure men usually need at least two status areas to date, but looks is one that can compensate for another (like wealth). A hot Chad or Tyrone who also has good social capital will slay for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 02:38 PM |
| 3 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.I’m talking about male role models that come from male family members who are respected, older male peers in school and work, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 02:35 PM |
| -2 | Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to what they find attractiveBe thankful they are being transparent here and learn from it what you can. I don’t think this proves they are shallow. On the other hand it does illustrate how women rationalize their choices in long term mates and shows that they requirement to prove themselves. I don’t think modern men excepting boomers and extreme redpillers require a woman to justify her fitness for a relationship the same way. Women judge on a man’s constant effort to show he’s is worthy lol, while men just expect women to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 01:43 PM |
| 0 | Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to what they find attractiveThat’s cool but there are several forms of status that most redpill men agree that women hone in on. Think about the sociological concept of multiple forms of capital. Most men include things like looks, social status (popularity/ influencing power) as well as career status and net worth when talking about status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to what they find attractiveIf you knew his net worth. But what if he saved a lot and was not ostentatious about showing his wealth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 12:41 PM |
| 5 | Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to what they find attractiveBut they hide it better, are less burlish about although most men from xenials, to millennials and Gen z are better about things like showing interest without being crude. However, women are given more of a pass and defended for their entitlement to standards. Men are called delusional and impossible for having very basic standards like asking for high agreeableness, loyalty and women who are not obese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 12:40 PM |
| 2 | The patriarchy and toxic masculinity exist, but women play a role in it too by selecting men with toxic traits.It’s not always as dastardly as selecting men on the dark triad spectrum. Most women reinforce it by rationalizing their choice to only date men who bring them extrinsic value via the man’s status as determined by the man’s career reputation, earning power, social influence (and money), or maybe because he’s model tier good looking. Women often say it’s hard to find a man that’s interesting to talk to and blame education when in reality she is selecting good looking men first who she later learn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 12:09 PM |
| 2 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.This. Women are the ones who are skewing the perception that men only like Hollywood starlet or model tier women. Most (average to slightly above average men or lower 80%) would be perfectly happy with a woman with a pleasant but average feminine face (4.5-5.5 face), a healthy weight up to an actual renaissance level ‘rubenesque’ (not obese but saying she’s rubenesque) who is agreeable and fun to be around, not overly neurotic, who is open to trying new things and initiates physical intimacy. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 11:58 AM |
| 1 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.Simps are guys who willingly go overboard wanting to be your friend and ‘like bomb’ you on social media or always validate you in school and gift far more favors for you than they would normally do for guys in their friend group. The simp dotes and drops favors all the time in order to get in your orbit in the hopes for some greater gravitational pull in the future. I’ve done it a few times in my life and vow never to again lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 11:48 AM |
| 0 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.You have simps but they may not be the ones you want. Most women want simps that are average enough so they wouldn’t be embarrassed to be seen with them in public or seen on social media, but the simp is not quite hot enough to give her the tingles. Any guy who is “just a friend” or you think of as a brother who is doing favors for you often - more so than he does favors for male fiends, is a simp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 11:43 AM |
| 9 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.You’re right. It’s only more palatable for the media to talk about the situation in Japan because they view it academically as a cultural artifact whereas in the west we just discount it as men being toxic and not seeking help before they rope out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 11:39 AM |
| 5 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.Elaborate on “becoming emotionally available”? Many guys try expressing what bothers them and then are gaslit into believing they should just shut up. So I guess it’s make the emotions she likes available and shut everything else off or go to therapy to learn right think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 04:31 AM |
| 27 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.More male figures who knew how to get a date is the only way. Many women are the worst at teaching men what women really find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 04:19 AM |
| 43 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.You either learn to adapt a slight taint of “killer instinct” and strike first, or you watch from the sidelines. Of course there’s always the option of going your own way and not gaf and just spending time making your own rules for fun times. I envy the guys that can just stop chasing and caring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 04:17 AM |
| 9 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.The situation may not get worse but some interested parties are going to try their best to indoctrinate many less masculine and less handsome men into accepting some other fate lol. I air issues here but before COVID I put in some work on myself (lifting, fashion, grooming and more social exposure ) and was enjoying my gains. I beg the most downtrodden of you gentlemen to give it a try and after at least 6 months of work and improvements try to meet anyone and just have fun. You may have to trod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 04:13 AM |
| 3 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.Sounds like good news. The thing I miss about the TRP sub is not the well known chosen contributors but the comments and advise from every day guys who were escaping the matrix. I’m seeing a little of that here now and it’s encouraging, but there is no more “safe space” for men only on Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:44 AM |
| 11 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.Why waste time accepting offers in your local circle if you can message Chad or Tyrone in any larger geographic area? I think the only people who marry people they meet in their peer groups are those who are either very rural and poor or very educated and came from privileged backgrounds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:41 AM |
| 11 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.And on top of that you also have extreme progressive women who as early social media sentiment suggests, want to severely regulate or ban AI girlfriends and sexbots, before they can merge into synthetic bot dolls that could offer some mental and emotional respite for those men who can no longer or could never compete with the top 20% of men. Legalizing prostitution could help but despite all the far left’s encouraging defense of some forms of sex work, they are in no hurry to sanction Amsterdam … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?Lol. Always a goal post moved. What happened to being authentic and showing vulnerability lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?Ha. The quickest way I’ve found to get women to distance themselves from me was to mention emotional difficulties or financial problems. They want you to go get fixed but don’t want you during the process. The only guys they like who go to therapy are the bad boys who they think have good hearts. Just read any “comments” on Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon groups about Matt Smith’s portrayal of Daemon Targaryen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?I think women don’t understand men and loyalty. Men can come to swearing words and fisticuffs yet sometime later just be bros again like nothing happened - assuming they were friends first before fighting. If (most masculine men) men were good friends but had major issues and fought we can often go back to the way things were and feel loyalty again. We’re like dogs with loyalty assuming loyalty means always returning to protect the pack. That’s what most of us men assume with women too but women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?It’s not love if you’re making plans to exit and feel no desire or loyalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 03:46 AM |
| 2 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?Just wait for some post hoc harkening emotional rationalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?I never understood why they would stay on so long past the point where they have no desire? Why not move on as soon as you realize you’re not invested? Perhaps it’s as simple as needing a new ship to sail on or branch to swing to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Why is it harder for average man to move on from a relationship ?I love the question but the framing of suggested answer choices is toxic af and presupposes some defect in the male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 02:02 AM |
| 2 | Why are you trying to shame "women" into lowering their standards?That’s accurate in my mind and reasonable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Why are you trying to shame "women" into lowering their standards?Thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 02:48 PM |
| 3 | Why are you trying to shame "women" into lowering their standards?Why did some people create a cultural zeitgeist for shaming men into accepting obese female body types? You can’t deny there has been a huge push for (female) body acceptance. Whenever I visit Target, half of the female body mannequins are ‘plus-sized’ yet all of the male mannequins are lean and muscular and none of the male mannequin are shorter than average (I’m 5’10 and around average for the west). Edits: spelling for mannequin and correcting typos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.If I make a non-racist or non-sexist joke to tease someone (I don’t do teas often nor do I intentionally make sexist or bigoted comments) or disagree with their opinion on something and they lose their shit at me, I note that event as a serious red flag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.I would argue that we should separate the symptom from the cause and expose false bravura without condemning the underlying insecurity. Sometimes though I think some people (family make I know) are some combination of delusional and narcissistic and not actually aware of insecurities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 01:24 PM |
| 2 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.Fooling a whole family is probably a rare event, but I feel for those who had a hard time with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 01:22 PM |
| 3 | What is the worst thing about being a man?That’s a crap policy and tells me that sub has been co-opted. There is no safe space for men anymore except in secret bar meetings among friends perhaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 03:51 AM |
| 53 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.I agree with this. I’ve known males who were controlling and possessive and I’ve been with women who were all milk and honey at first then o said one thing wrong (usually something benign but maybe slightly sarcastic) and they snapped and would yell or push or hit. So watch for people who put a lot of effort into always “keeping appearances” with their demeanor and charm. Look for people who seem very natural in any circumstance. This is one reason why I believe “shite tests” are in fact integri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 11:58 AM |
| 11 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.You don’t want the answer but here it is. Trust your elder family members who are upstanding members of society to vet any potential mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 11:41 AM |
| 1 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationAnother great explanation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:17 PM |
| 7 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationBased | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:16 PM |
| 7 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationThis says it all. I would also add situations where men start talking to their SO about worries about their job or finances, or issues of feeling inadequate in some area, or when they are downright frustrated about something in life. Men can show slight sadness which can be endearing, anger only if it’s in defense of the SO or a pet issue of hers (Will Smith and white knighting) or joy and confidence which does the work of lifting her mood for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:15 PM |
| 1 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationLol it’s not just me I see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:12 PM |
| 14 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationThe OP is glossing over this issue. 9/10 when I start talking to someone I’m dating about real troubles(like deeper insecurities or financial concerns) and not just what I felt in the moment, they started to retreat and create distance. Attention dropped and attraction as indicated by sexual interest declined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Ladies, if you feel like you’ve dropped enough “hints,” but your man still isn’t making the move, then you need to be more direct. Many guys are gun-shy about misinterpreting “hints” due to getting burned/shamed/humiliated in the past.It’s so funny because when women here have claimed to make it obvious, I would respond asking what actions they took and all I got in response was “oh, he will definitely know if I’m interested” lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:47 AM |
| 2 | College men are increasingly shifting right, while college women are shifting left. Why do you think that is?Well said. The potential rewards hypothesis distills this down well. I see the same dynamic in hidden conservatives, mainly some Latinx and Asians that are already established and don’t need promises from the left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 10:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV Either sex is presumptively inherently degrading to women OR pumping and dumping a woman is just fine/not immoralYou’re reading into it too much. It simply is a goofy way of saying hookup. Making up language | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV Either sex is presumptively inherently degrading to women OR pumping and dumping a woman is just fine/not immoralBoom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV Either sex is presumptively inherently degrading to women OR pumping and dumping a woman is just fine/not immoralPnD was just a silly way of saying “hook up”. It never required lying. Do some pos people lie? Occasionally. My approach is to simply not make promises and make no assumptions because in the moment I can’t predict how things will develop. I can’t predict her actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Treating your partner differentWho hurt you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Treating your partner differentExactly. It’s like they know they can’t keep the 10 so they impulsively jump on his D like they couldn’t control themselves and then rationalize it later. They are spelling out AFBB and proving one of TRP’s maim pillars of truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Treating your partner differentLol. Rationalized answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Treating your partner differentEverything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Treating your partner differentIt’s just AFBB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:30 AM |
| 3 | Treating your partner differentShe pretty much spelled out and corroborated the AFBB phenomenon. Several women in this thread have already admitted that they may just jump in bed with a guy because they think he’s hot and aren’t worried about his personality. That tells guys everything they need to know. If she’s not getting hot and bothered with you very soon after dating then she’s just not into you. Cut your loss and move on. Don’t be a comfort guy sucker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Treating your partner differentI agree completely. But women want their choices praised yet demand men accept their terms and stay or else they’re jerks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:21 AM |
| 3 | Treating your partner differentThat’s not usually how it happens and that’s not what the OP is talking about. I wish women would just answer in good faith. What the OP is talking about and we’ve all seen it, is when Stacie meets Chad or Tyrone at the club and then grinds on them all night and then goes to a cookout party the next day and goes right to bed with no second thoughts. Later after Chad and Tyrone stop texting for hookups, Stacie gets on Bumble and sees Billy’s profile and sees that he’s an engineer and says “oh he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Treating your partner differentGlad you said it. Next time I will try to talk about it then move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:07 AM |
| 2 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Good point. I’m not trying to paint the past as all good but cultures of the past had social rules and rites of passage that made the transition less confusing. Men in the mixed up western cultures are probably the most confused because their past cultural parameters have been systematically eroded and their families have been fragmented. Far fewer men today had respected, experienced males around in their childhood than when they may have had 30, 40, 50 years ago. Many of these men who grew up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4M fidelity testingExactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4M fidelity testingI no came here to say this. The OP’s analogy doesn’t work. She sounds defensive about the possibility of any women taking a paternity test. If a couple cheats and no child involved, they split and move on. Paternity fraud is a lifelong financial and emotional toll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:21 AM |
| 3 | The Man She Casually Sleeps With Versus The Man She Wants Kids With?I’m not sure if the OP was clear enough, but this this topic requires a clear distinction between someone who is the whole package, that is someone that she wants to have sex with often and someone she wants to share children with, versus the guy who was hot enough and in the right place and sexy enough for casual sex — and thirdly, what we normally refer to as the Beta provider, who is someone she may respect for his ability to provide resources but she doesn’t want to have sex with often. Most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 12:34 PM |
| 4 | Mommy’s Little Secret: a Discussion on Paternity FraudThat’s why paternity testing should be done preterm or at birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 02:46 PM |
| 0 | Mommy’s Little Secret: a Discussion on Paternity FraudThe paternity of any child should be standard procedure whenever a hospital wants to add the father’s name to a birth certificate and make him legally accountable. There should be no question about maternity given the science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 02:43 PM |
| 12 | Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest?Thank you. The leaps in logic and tendency towards logical fallacies run deep here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 04:33 AM |
| 1 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"Not people who go their own way. Maybe they slow settle one day. All in all, more women than men probably settle since most men are fine with an all around (4-5.5) so long as she’s sexually interested, agreeable and not obese. Women often have much more demanding standards but settle for guys who are generous and good husband material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Does unconditional love truly exist?I don’t know. I think most western notions of “unconditional love” is based on extreme infatuation Romeo and Juliet fantasies. There have been a couple of girls, one just 3.5 years ago, that lit my mind up and had me daydreaming on cloud nine. Was it some sort of unreachable thing where they seemed interested, then I moved to slow and they wanted to be friends, but everything I imagined became reality and I was that much more attached as a result? I don’t know. After reading some redpill methods… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:12 PM |
| 1 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"Sad boy type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 01:07 AM |
| 5 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"No the women are perfect apparently and not at all harpies or shaped like Janna the Hut | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:28 AM |
| 2 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"What kind of guys are these women interested in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:20 AM |
| 3 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"They have sex easily with men that they find attractive, yes. The argument is that women will still date less attractive guys if she needs a safe option but makes them compensate and makes them wait longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:11 AM |
| 2 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"Spot on mate. This is it but the deniers will deflect and hamster this into a thousand different forms of mental gymnastics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:09 AM |
| 2 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"The women who know they have options have different rules of engagement for different men. Guys should figure this out fast and value their time more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 11:06 AM |
| 9 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"How will you know you’re not settling? That’s the question all straight guys need to answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 10:53 AM |
| 8 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"Many of the guys here are experienced but like me are in the middle ground and veterans of many frustrating experiences and betrayals and gaslighting. Calling a guy an ‘incel’ and insecure is just desperate deflection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 10:48 AM |
| 3 | No guy wants to be "husband material" over "hookup material"This is what AFBB is all about. The sooner guys learn this the less time they will waste in their youth. The fact that your post is triggering some harsh responses suggests that you managed to strike into an important vein of truth that many western women would prefer not to admit. Why is is so hard for these women to just own it and admit that many of them fell into kissing or hooking up with some random guy shortly after meeting yet expected a longer wait time and more time and money commitmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 10:45 AM |
| 5 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Yes. A lot of men waste time with the wrong approach or thinking that their partner loves them for what they do for her. She appreciates a provider that’s a good family man, but that’s not what keeps her tingles going. Armed with self-awareness of where a man stands, he can make the best decision for life fulfillment. I truly believe a lot more men would want to stay single if they had complete transparent access to the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Has any body had a hard time getting back out and dating since Covid?I was doing well and meeting new people until COVID. I was able to go out and meet new CMB matches and had somewhat regular dates with about 2-3 women then I got used to shutting down and not going to the gym as much. I started to get fit again by the end of summer 2020 but it was slow and I didn’t get back into shape until 2021. By then my going out life was for the most part much more limited than 2018-2019. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleI strongly suggest rethinking that. The last time I did something like that with someone just too over the boundary for what I would accept she started getting hyper emotional possessive and scary. Before anyone gets the wrong idea or thinks I was lying, I never made promises and it was her idea. Besides, I was talking about a woman who’s more pleasingly juicy like Ariel Winter a few years ago, and not someone who is medically obese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleYou didn’t say you wouldn’t sleep with the very attractive guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menNo strings attached (NSA). I believe you’re right about everything else. You know you’re alpha in her eyes if she’s mostly agreeable with you and willing to give physical affection. Most women can fake that for their security catch but then start going cold later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:29 AM |
| 4 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleIf you’re not in the top 20% of men you will end up in a beta comfort role and she may be lusty with you for a year and then after that she expects you to be the provider, the emotional battery recharger and constantly impress to show that you have utility value otherwise she’s gone. The top 20% don’t have to do the same dance monkey dance routine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 01:08 AM |
| 10 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleWomen can be short, slightly chubby, plain and introverted and plenty of men would still date her , and love her but those men won’t be Chad or Tyrone. I don’t think women can really get excited to make sweet love to a man with the same attributes. Maybe if he’s tall or has a lot of status | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 12:57 AM |
| 0 | I think we need to relook at what the “ average man” actually isWhatever you do gentlemen, do not use tinder to to measure your self-worth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:51 PM |
| 21 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menI know it’s AFBB but some women really want their alphas to stick around hence the “alpha widow” scenario. Why are some men only NSA? Do they know he’s a top Chad who won’t stick around but they want their shot anyway? Is it a dude of a different race or culture and she knows he won’t gel with friends and family? But to your point, no man likes to be the guy that has to abide the new rules for waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 03:38 AM |
| 20 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menYou have to keep in mind that some men became legit hesitant to make a first move without her meeting you more than half way after MeToo. But gentlemen, you have to use light touch and kino. Then just lean in and see what she does. If she doesn’t gravitate toward a kiss then finish the night and move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menFor me it’s not so much about the end count, but more about the gaslighting in the actual lying about her past. Oh yeah and the double standards where the same girl makes some men wait yet Chad and Tyrone get to hit it within 30 minutes of meeting up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Women claim all guys, even below average men, struggle because they all want "hot supermodel stacies" and yet they defend women who have delusional, unrealistic standardsI agree that preferences and attraction to niche features intermixed with personality are not the same thing as actual objective physical beauty in terms of symmetry of features, feature proportion harmony and evenness of skin tone. It’s entirely possible to recognize that someone is near perfect in every body feature yet they don’t really get your attention and you find yourself developing a personal niche for girls who wear glasses, have noses slightly too large for their faces and have some o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 06:48 AM |
| 3 | Women claim all guys, even below average men, struggle because they all want "hot supermodel stacies" and yet they defend women who have delusional, unrealistic standardsMost mature men over 23 or so don’t expect women to be above 7 really. Most of us guys under 6’0 and not Chads are fine with an agreeable 5 who is all around average (not obese with a nice face) who can be fun and acts like they would be a good parent. What men complain about however is when women have unrealistic standards for men that actually skew the scale so that “average” men to them are in reality a 6-7 who is over 6’ —- yet they call any woman beautiful and above average if she can dress… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 05:55 AM |
| 3 | Women claim all guys, even below average men, struggle because they all want "hot supermodel stacies" and yet they defend women who have delusional, unrealistic standardsI think it may be possible that some people here are underestimating what it takes to be in the realm of a 9 to 10. A few people mentioned Rihanna. I would rate her an 8 maybe 8.5 Max. That’s where I would put most female stars including Taylor Swift (8). Aaliyah (back in the day) was definitely 8.5-9, younger Ming Na Wen an 8.5, Audrey Hepburn a solid 9, and Gal Gadot is probably closest to 9-9.5. I can’t think of any technical 10s at the moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 01:03 AM |
| 3 | Women claim all guys, even below average men, struggle because they all want "hot supermodel stacies" and yet they defend women who have delusional, unrealistic standardsThe two out of 10 would not bang meme is troll fodder that you cannot take seriously. Please tell me you don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menI definitely disagree with that notion that cheating is OK for men. I’ve never really listened to the gurus on YouTube. I never heard cheating advocated on the TRP sub Reddit and that’s the only place I read TRP content except for Mark Manson on Facebook. But now r/TRP, probably the most helpful and least offensive group is censored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Women claim all guys, even below average men, struggle because they all want "hot supermodel stacies" and yet they defend women who have delusional, unrealistic standardsWho is saying this. Good hamster deflection though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menLinks? Sources? I thought r/TRP was banished by the Reddit thought police. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Women hate the manosphere because it's the only thing actually helping menCome ok gentlemen. Keep upvoting. I’m seeing the votes change in real time and it’s obvious by the fight to downvote this that this post touched some sensitive nerves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 09:49 AM |
| 3 | Women only play hard to get with men who have no options, dating her is easy when she's actually interestedI’ve actually been on first or second dates where in retrospect I could tell she was not interested in me. There are situations that actually make it legit confusing for guys. For some reason brother, some women will accept the date invitation and then go on the date but still show no physical enthusiasm. But I’ve learned and now I don’t bother unless she shows she’s invested whether that’s her reaction when she sees or hears me or something else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Women only play hard to get with men who have no options, dating her is easy when she's actually interested“If it’s not hell yes, it’s hell no”. Simplify your algorithm gentleman. There’s no need to waste time on someone who may be only lukewarm at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterIt was more obvious that Brad hit the wall in the Ad Astra movie, but he’s still an above average handsome man. He was 39-40 in Troy and looked like a peak male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterGoogle is your friend friend. Frank Grillo is pushing 60 and has looks that many younger guys could only dream of. I realize older Brad Pitt doesn’t look as good as younger Brad Pitt, but IMHO he looked his best in the movie Troy when he was about 40. I think he grew into a more manly look from around 35-40. Pitt looked a little too boyish in his 20s and early films. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterI like seriously educated women but only expect an occupation and accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Men dont age betterThis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterExactly. They protest too much about this but men who care can age well. Aging well is much harder for women unless they are the Mulan actress Ming Na Wen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterDon’t try to convince the mad cool wine aunts and cat ladies with science about male vs female aging! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:47 AM |
| 3 | Men dont age betterSomeone is hurt and this post feeds into the wishful revenge thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Men dont age betterThere’s lower wage and broke. Broke is dangerous, and more so if she’s coming on very strong and wants to mark you with her scent and claim you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterLate blooming has been my experience. Girls I couldn’t even approach seriously in my 20s became afterthoughts as I passed my early 30s I think I still had too much baby fat on my face in my 20s and was late too looking more hard and masculine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterLaughably reductionist premise that sounds like someone’s hurt. Regarding women vs men, look at actors in Hollywood. Compare some guys like Frank Grillo and Brad Pitt who are now in their late 50s to female actresses around the same age like Daryl Hannah or Jamie Lee Curtis who are just over 60 but hit that wall harder and earlier. True, many men just let themselves go, and therefore most of the complainers here say that all men over 30 are paunchy and gross, but a man who can work out, dress we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Men dont age betterMany hurt women seem to forget this. Some people are simply late bloomers. Our new HS track coach thought I was a freshman when I was a senior. And as for women vs men, look at actors in Hollywood. Compare some guys like Frank Grillo and Brad Pitt who are now in their late 50s to female actresses around the same age like Daryl Hannah or Jamie Lee Curtis who are just over 60 but hit that wall harder and earlier. True, many men just let themselves go, and therefore most of the complainers here say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | No "issues" presented by TRP are solvable without also compromising the idea that women deserve equal rights to men.🐹 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 05:52 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?Coffee Meets Bagel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 04:17 AM |
| 0 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?I’m just the messenger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Men and women here, how many actual options do you have?Agree. Or at the very least be open about not defining the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:16 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?You’re response is solid but it won’t stop the gaslighting here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?Our anecdotes are only anecdotes until they all add up. You’re not alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:12 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?Keep up the hard work and try non-western women on CMB. Plenty of those women will appreciate what you have to offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?Heard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:07 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?I agree that it can change. The most you can do is work hard on yourself and keep aiming upwards. Don’t settle too soon unless you’ve been dry and new a few scrimmage dates to warmup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:06 PM |
| 0 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?Exactly. Many of us have a lot of real world experience and put effort into our appearance and game yet 8 out of 10 of our matches on Tinder will be obese with not much else to offer. That said, I had much better luck finding average size non-US women on CMB. Tinder is junk now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Would you prefer to just sleep around with multiple women instead of a relationship?Depends on the woman and what she brings to the relationship and how vested she is in the relationship. I’m not against relationships but I’ve been slow to define any recently, so for now it’s just dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Men and women here, how many actual options do you have?It’s interesting because if anyone here were talking about women in their 40s seeking hookups with men in their 20s the crowd would all call her “sex positive” and give her a few “you go girl” hoorays, but if you switch the genders all of the sudden a consensual situation is bad and predatory. Ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Men and women here, how many actual options do you have?Respect I hope but love is up to each person to decide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 06:17 PM |
| 4 | Men and women here, how many actual options do you have?“Preyed upon”? Are you serious? Perhaps your narrative demands that in order for situations like his to make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Men and women here, how many actual options do you have?Logically speaking what we choose for our lives should not concern them, but somehow they allow it to concern them. By the way the username checks out lol. I have missed your content indeed. It’s a sad shame that plain honest discussions between men helping other men had to be banned on Reddit. The Vanhammer action on red it alone to tell you all you need to know about the expected narrative and who is really in control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:57 PM |
| 5 | Men and women here, how many actual options do you have?If that’s what you want, then more power to you. Seriously I don’t know why women get so upset when men choose this. Why can’t they just live and let live and do their own thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coin??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:21 PM |
| 4 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinThey don’t see the average guy that actually likes her. They only see men who are above average in a couple of key areas (looks or status) and then go figure why they can’t tell if he’s serious or not. If they truly can’t tell I suspect they are only going for the best looking guys who have loads of options and just play the game with a poker face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinSeveral of my relationships started with hotter sex in the beginning and then the sex dropped in frequency after reality set in and I had to focus on work and school and couldn’t always be “on” like time was unlimited. But if women want to keep the man hooked, she needs to be agreeable and initiate sex more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinFrom a pure numbers perspective women will always have a clear advantage to finding a relationship and that ability to get one grants other economic advantages over single men. If a woman gets on OLD she may get 100s of bad attempts at casual sex but she will also get some serious intention guys if she looks beyond just the hottest Chads. Why do I say that? Because any Chad that happens to be on OLD and is not already in a LTR is probably just trolling for hook ups. Almost all the females in my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.Men are banned from certain subs because they follow subs like TRP and TRP the sub where men give other men advice about how to become better at manning up is banned, yet women talking about real or depicted beastiality with the family dog is just fun entertainment and depicted as “sex positive”. We really are in the upside down world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Is it stupid for young guys (18-25) to be in a relationship if they can easily find casual sex? (Sowing wild oats)Men 18-25 should date but not get serious, but start looking to nail down a LTR by 25-30 but only if she is marriage minded and marriage material. Whatever you do, don’t just fall into a relationship because it’s “comfortable”. Be intentional | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 09:22 PM |
| 2 | The state is the problem between men and women.The most true take home in this thesis is that women over time began to value “stability” and “work ethics” in men less as they themselves gained more independence financially. Now women first go for looks and tingles, then settle on a guy who is “good husband material”. Women don’t just drop their job status expectations yet add that to her shopping list. While many women may go to a working class Chad or Tyrone for some side action, the chances she chooses someone who makes 10-20% less than he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Almost like it’s for entertainment and if you don’t want to read it or agree with it you should stay away? So there’s no need to ban anything then if that’s how we should handle content we don’t like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?It’s possible for sure. I’m usually more laid back and light hearted when I’m not outraging here lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Almost a million subscribed to that sub. It’s not the random hookups, but the frequency of random cheating and beastiality posts that raise alarms. Even if the percentage is small, how do you recognize their tells and steer clear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 12:42 PM |
| 3 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.They are trying to judge us by women’s rules and then claim that RP influencers can’t be successful or worthy of reading if they are not 10/10 giga Chads which pretty much plays into some of the RP and to some extent the BP messages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 11:14 AM |
| 2 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.Isn’t it funny that r/TRP is all but shut down by Reddit but r/SluttyConfessions has posts about bestiality (search for knotted or knotting in that sub) yet that group is probably protected as a “safe space” by Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 11:06 AM |
| 1 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.Exactly. Every logical fallacy is scatter gunned out to trash talk what used to be TRP. The things these people cite are so off base from what I used to read on TRP. It’s telling that TRP was banned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 07:07 AM |
| -1 | I never knew how bad the obesity epidemic has gotten until I lurked the 18-22 age demographic on Tinder today vs 5 years agoI haven’t searched for men as I’m straight, but I doubt legit obese men post much on Tinder. Obese women on the other hand lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?Have you checked out what’s up at r/SluttyConfessions? Good luck with all of that. Seriously I just stumbled across a ‘knotting’ story - all the crazy stuff you will never hear about if she wants to date but know that what she says and what she does are often very different things. God speed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 06:49 AM |
| 3 | Is it really this complicated?Thanks for pointing this out. And “just be yourself” is the worst advice to give someone who may not be ready for prime time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Is it really this complicated?Your second paragraph is exactly the kind of advice young men get from serious TRP authors. It’s mostly about becoming bigger than the problems and improving yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Is it really this complicated?It’s not about getting into a relationship but keeping one. Or for many men the choice may be how to keep dating without having to define a relationship and be someone’s emotional support system 24/7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksI’m honest with myself and probably won’t get married. I’ve dated a lot the last few years but didn’t have anything long term. I’m fine with it. I’m just honestly surprised with these old ideas about how men are pig abusers that never do housework and drive women to divorce. Like the women never ever share any accountability for the relationship. Just blame the man lol. Maybe in future generations men will decide they want to be parents, but will forgo marriage and instead enter into some sort o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:28 AM |
| -1 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksYour one anecdote sets the facts. I feel bad for her but most men I knew who went through divorce suffered more financially and emotionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:10 AM |
| 4 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksEvidence women care about kids in measurable numbers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:08 AM |
| 4 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksThis is the inconvenient truth in most cases for most non-wealthy men that upsets the 3rd wave feminist narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksThis has been the reality since at least the 1990s. Sure women really needed support in the early days like my parents in the 1980s, but for post boomer generations the woman just saw other women doing it when they felt dissatisfied with their not so tingles filled life because you know, kids and responsibilities and normal life, and they did some mental gymnastics to blame their husband who may have taken for granted that they had a solid base and didn’t need to always act like they were on hon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:56 AM |
| 0 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksYou can’t tell me that at a divorce rate of 45-50% in the US with an adult population of around 258 million that around 65 million men are abusive or cheated. Most men I know were actually the divorce victims of a cheater. She gets bored, wants a higher price lifestyle lol, or more contestant attention, she claims she’s “emotionally neglected” or worse “emotionally abused” then hamsters into a monkey branch closeness with another male then eventually starts cheating. This narrative that men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Dating apps make misogynist menI agree to that and admit it although in some cases I found girls who would continue to chat but moved away or live to far away when I tried “global”. I may try it out again for curiosity though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps make misogynist menGo to a nightclub just before midnight and you will see the 80/20 rule of male odds in action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:31 PM |
| 4 | Dating apps make misogynist menThis is good stuff. Blog material. We need more reading like this and less of the extremes of TRP and PUA vs virtue signaling white knighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps make misogynist menSo many people forget that flirting with real intent is easy prey for people looking for a way to ostracize your from peer groups and for people looking for reasons to terminate employment. In a way I think women made it inadvertently harder on themselves by making the conscientious males more cautious about this without realizing that the most aggressive nothing to lose males will keep pursuing no matter the consequences— or maybe that’s what they want. Who knows anymore right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:08 PM |
| 3 | Dating apps make misogynist menPlus you massively extend your pool of potentials if you use OLD. The ole “social circle” way really only brings you into 2-3 potentials and if you try hitting them up one by one but fail the word gets out. Even if proximity to the circle leads to meeting new people you will still end up doing something like a cold approach anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:55 PM |
| 2 | Dating apps make misogynist menIf you have a demanding job or grad school program, OLD is a way to save time meeting new people when otherwise you would have to spend time on social engagements which is not bad but actually takes time and emotional mental energy to pursue. However, social groups are ideal but sometimes OLD can be a shortcut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:50 PM |
| 8 | Dating apps make misogynist menYup. I’ve had women match me and then unmatch as soon as I send a simple hello message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:08 AM |
| 5 | Dating apps make misogynist menI haven’t been on tinder in a while but I will try to remember this when I go back. The OP is right about how males have to put all the effort into keeping a conversation going and taking the next steps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Girls can be completely attracted to and interested in a guy but still reject himIncompatibility as seen by the person declaring incompatibility is strongly and positively correlated with the number of options that person can act on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 06:59 PM |
| 7 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?I think I’m sick now. Wtf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?That’s ducked up. But don’t ever critique another non-West or non-white western culture. Someone I worked with shunned me and I think it was after he may have overheard me talking to another westerner about the US political system and something something about “becoming like X country”. I was never saying that all people from X country were problematic, but mainly talking about the ruler and political system of that country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Why is the physical act of cheating so devastating to men?This. I could care less if someone I was dating casually had a physical encounter with another man so long as safe sex was practiced. I was in that situation before and even though it was her idea to not be exclusive she was the one who was a little put off by the fact that I actually went on a date with someone else. As long as everyone is open, honest and safe I have no concerns about what they do when they are away from me. What usually hurts people is when she makes false promises and tells … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Why is the physical act of cheating so devastating to men?I agree with this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Why is the physical act of cheating so devastating to men?To the OP. Why do you think men are more preoccupied with cheating than women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 01:43 PM |
| 6 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?I suspect there is a socioeconomic and education interaction with relationships. The income brackets above working class who are also I have a post secondary school education are probably who the OT is talking about. Those will be the ones who are in dismay over the current state of dating and relationships. Most of the four who are pumping out kids probably have limited exposure to other places in the world or even interstate and most likely stay in the same town and work the same kind of jobs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 12:25 PM |
| 2 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?We need to operationally define what it means to be an “average man “. The prototype of a “average man” means one thing to women and something completely different to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Why is the physical act of cheating so devastating to men?Women are still very upset and unforgiving with a man who has a one time or short fling with no emotional strings attached. This is not my story personally, but I know some women who are very upset with their significant others for wanking to cam girls or pictures of women on social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 11:11 AM |
| 4 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?This is my view as well. There are some very sweet older women but it’s those who had positive views of males and other people in general throughout their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:44 AM |
| 1 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?Acceptance and saying “it’s okay” are not the same thing. At least it is for people who aren’t LARPing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:36 AM |
| 2 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?Surely that was a troll account or the very least just one sick person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:13 AM |
| 2 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?Lol. Again no. It means she’s less likely to lose her shit over stupid small stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:06 AM |
| 0 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?Ha no. I think for him and me it’s someone who is alpha widowed and will never get over that Chad they once had and you’ll be the guy she convinces herself she should like instead. It also means she’s more likely to be shrill and bitter about life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:05 AM |
| 13 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?Agree so long as the wisdom was real wisdom that shows in her becoming someone more patient, less fickle and more likely to hold herself more accountable for her decisions. I would run like mad if what she had instead was years of bitterness that she mistook for “life smarts” leading to becoming a shrill shrew. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 09:51 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhy can’t we post pictures or links in topics? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 09:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overHave my upvote. I agree and I tend to not like rail thin as much and appreciate someone around average to maybe a little more. There is a looks threshold, probably from 4.5-5.5 assuming she’s not obese, but after that it’s uniqueness, sexiness and her mind and agreeable personality that matters most. Often times I will find someone very interesting that others would not say is the most perfect. The way I see it, men don’t really settle. We just have a broader range of looks we consider GF or wid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 09:52 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Agreed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 01:28 PM |
| 2 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......I don’t think your experiences sums up those of all other men here. A lot of this depends on the demographics, your appearance (size, demeanor, race, etc) and where I’m a city you roam in terms of feeling safe walking alone at night. Yes I can do some things at night without worrying too much, but I’m never carefree and I’m always checking my surroundings. I’m always situationally aware. Still, there are some places I would never walk alone at night in certain US urban areas without being armed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 01:26 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overWe use average to denote the central tendency as in the 1-10 scale where a 5.5 is the central value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 04:10 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overIn past generations. I guarantee it get worse with millennials and younger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 04:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control over🐹 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 04:03 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overThe average guys that are decent remain single now in their teens and 20s but may get some women interested in settling when they are in their 30s. Chad and Tyrone have women chasing after them and being their baby mommas from early on. It’s not rocket science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overThey settle for “stability” factors like good jobs, nice demeanor and other traits they think would make a good “partner” but not the man they get tingles from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:55 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control over”guys just want a girl to be somewhat cute and not be overweight. Look at how many relatively normal looking women are making a living off of their appearance on social media, they're a dime a dozen.“ No matter how many times we say this women still think that ‘most’ men want women who look like Hollywood leading actresses or runway models. I think by most men they mean the men they actually care to notice which are the top 10% who are more selective because it’s a completion for them. I’ve fall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?I agree with this as this has been my experience as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?I started out somewhat above average in high school and then got more nerdy and slightly overweight in my 20s, then got back in shape and paid attention to fashion more in my mid to late 30s and turned my game around again. I have been happy for the results but I noticed that the younger women cared less about my career path so long as I was doing something - while I had a 40 year old just kind of stop responding after revealing I make just over 6 figures - when I think she’s been with guys maki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 08:47 PM |
| 10 | Older guys are not dating young girlsI’ve done that a lot (dating 10-12 years younger) and think it’s more common when women are 25 and older and less common when women are 18-23ish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Older guys are not dating young girlsI think many (older millennial to xennial) beg to differ. I’ve dated several women in their 20s in my 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 08:33 PM |
| 0 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?I never quite had a grasp on “emotionally unavailable” and “emotional labor” and it’s funny that women seem to talk a lot about both but I never hear men complain about emotionally unavailable women or women who won’t share their stress over something they decided to do and execute (like planning a party). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?What do most women mean when they say a man is “emotionally unavailable”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 04:19 AM |
| 4 | What is the appeal of submission in women?I interpret most men’s statements about female submission to be simply describing women who are not contrarian or who always like to argue. Being submissive does not necessarily translate to being subservient or submitting to every wish of the other person. For me it would be more accurate to say that I prefer a woman who is high in agreeableness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 09:36 PM |
| 2 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyHa ha. I’m not one of them, but I went through a dry spell and prefer honesty over gaslighting. Also, I happen to have this thing called empathy for my other brothers out there and recognize that some decent upstanding guys are truly going without. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?The average woman, assuming average means she doesn’t have a body like Jabba the Hutt, can monkey branch or leave one situation and have another guy on her doorstep a few days later if she is aware and social. Most average guys on the other hand may take months or maybe even a year or so to find someone new unless they are actively pursuing multiple women on OLD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:55 PM |
| 2 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyMore liberal societies need legalized prostitution and legalization for sexbots. But that will offend women’s comfort interests because beta bill will no longer need to take a BB support role but instead do his own thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 09:56 PM |
| 5 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyThe worst catch all insult for any male that is deeply critical of extreme feminist narratives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 09:54 PM |
| 7 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyIt’s so bad in some circles that some progressive academics are writing articles defending Amber Heard. The Heard v. Depp Trial is Finally Over—The Biggest Winner Was Misogyny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Women LOVE to throw out the classic “it’s not your ____ it’s because you’re a misogynistic asshole” yet misogynistic assholes are consistently the ones getting laid. This alone proves that women are unable to have an honest conversation about dating and discredits anything else they have to say.Did you revise your comment? Because the way it reads now is different. Ironically though, I was the least successful when I was the most emotionally invested. But the gist of the OP here is that Chad and Tyrone and sexual marketplace alpha guys can get laid no matter what they do or no matter how they act really. That’s fine, but everyone needs to be honest about that and own up to it instead of gaslighting young men when they are growing up. It’s the beta guys, the guys that women take in for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:33 PM |
| 5 | Women LOVE to throw out the classic “it’s not your ____ it’s because you’re a misogynistic asshole” yet misogynistic assholes are consistently the ones getting laid. This alone proves that women are unable to have an honest conversation about dating and discredits anything else they have to say.Yep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:52 AM |
| 8 | Women LOVE to throw out the classic “it’s not your ____ it’s because you’re a misogynistic asshole” yet misogynistic assholes are consistently the ones getting laid. This alone proves that women are unable to have an honest conversation about dating and discredits anything else they have to say.AFBB right here folks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Women LOVE to throw out the classic “it’s not your ____ it’s because you’re a misogynistic asshole” yet misogynistic assholes are consistently the ones getting laid. This alone proves that women are unable to have an honest conversation about dating and discredits anything else they have to say.This all day long | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:49 AM |
| 3 | Women LOVE to throw out the classic “it’s not your ____ it’s because you’re a misogynistic asshole” yet misogynistic assholes are consistently the ones getting laid. This alone proves that women are unable to have an honest conversation about dating and discredits anything else they have to say.Dear. That is the premise. The premise is that women blame character traits when in fact it’s either attraction or some misguided post Weinstein assumption about a guy who acts slightly awkward and is not in the top 20% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Is hiring a hooker really the end goal for sexless men?Do you want me to follow or ask her something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 03:46 AM |
| 46 | For generations a women’s only worth was her looks. Now it’s mens turn.Most guys just can’t “up their looks” especially when it comes to things like height or hair loss. I agree with your assessment about men and attraction because I am that guy who can see something in all but the most obese or most shriveled. Men allow for a far greater range of looks features from women than women allow for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 03:31 AM |
| 11 | Is hiring a hooker really the end goal for sexless men?Most men are not dissatisfied with women gaining more income status than men. The issue is that these ladder climbing women don’t want men who have the same or less level of income or status. Then they say “where have all the good men gone?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?I wasn’t ugly in my 20s but I didn’t have work out discipline and I had some anxiety about approaching women. In my 30s I believe in my success more, I work out, and most importantly I think, I lost my baby face look and my face looked more masculine and my body frame became more masculine. Perhaps I was a late bloomer. My high school track coach thought I was a freshman when I was a senior lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?My apologies. I can’t assume to know. Unfortunately people sometimes just change their minds and hearts before the other person had a chance to notice and adjust. I’ve always said that I was open either way but I would sometimes get alarmed if she suddenly started assuming we were exclusive too soon and became more demanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 10:57 AM |
| 0 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Respect. Keep flying high | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?This. It all depends on the man. Attaining more options as a man post 30 only happens when average guys began to take more command over their lives and their potential. Most of my improvements came from becoming more established and accomplished, getting more disciplined in working out and diet, choosing smart clothes and not meme teen clothes, and becoming more socially calibrated around women and different age groups, and more confident and assertive with approaching women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Lol ok. That’s classic for they chase the apex men, men who have too many options to commit, by throwing them sex the first date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Exactly. Many men in the armed forces and law enforcement don’t make 6 figures but I wouldn’t call them losers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Lots of travel pictures from exotic far away places and pictures of their flashy car outside and exclusive night club. Women who are looking for extra insurance from a man wrhincome will advertise it discreetly in their profiles saying they want someone to travel with and they will post pictures of the kinds of places they expect their matches to have been to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:20 AM |
| -1 | Q4W - would you rather date a good looking guy who's very health conscious or a good looking guy that doesn't careMost guys here feel women would pick man 2 minus the smoking. Women seem to want the finished product and the born natural guy more than the guy who worked his ass off to get better looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/22 04:43 AM |
| 1 | 90 percent of open relationships are destined to fail.Fascinating info. Thanks for the input | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 10:25 PM |
| 2 | What’s one (or more) piece of advice you’d give to young people when it comes to dating?Good advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 10:20 PM |
| 2 | What’s one (or more) piece of advice you’d give to young people when it comes to dating?This. Don’t just read TRP or something similar. Live and apply ideas in the field. Start at what you consider a 3 or 4 on the 1-10 scale to build confidence and work your way to where you want to hang a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 10:19 PM |
| 2 | What’s one (or more) piece of advice you’d give to young people when it comes to dating?I don’t know. In between the back biting comments there is a lot of useful information from all sides of any dating and mating debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 10:16 PM |
| 1 | 90 percent of open relationships are destined to fail.I consider myself about average maybe I was slightly above average a couple years ago before Covid when I was working out more and paying attention to fashion. I was never dating multiple Stacies but the dates were average but smart grad students or young professionals, and one was thicc thicc but top heavy and had amazing bronze skin and almond eyes and all around pretty face and hair. It took up too much of my time at a time when I should have been focusing on my career mission. I’m only seein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 09:10 PM |
| 7 | 90 percent of open relationships are destined to fail.Does anyone just stay single and date multiple people at the same time? That’s what I have been doing, but it seems so few do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 05:45 PM |
| 8 | 90 percent of open relationships are destined to fail.I think one of the reasons this will never work in straight relationships is because while plenty of guys who will gladly have sex with a girl who is already with a boyfriend or husband, women are not so keen on entering into a relationship with a guy knowing that it’s an open relationship and he’s already with someone else, that is unless he is a high profile Chad or the guy has a lot of resources and is compensating the external female in someway. The benefits of open relationships if you see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Why sugar mommas are pretty rare but sugar daddies are quite popular?There is that. True. Support and green card chasers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 05:02 PM |
| 1 | What speaks to you about the situation of modern society when it comes to Kevin Samuels Death?I thought the same thing when Ginsberg passed. But the nasty responses about Ginsberg seemed far fewer and were far less accepted and socially sanctioned than what we’re seeing on social media the last two days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 05:01 PM |
| 1 | What speaks to you about the situation of modern society when it comes to Kevin Samuels Death?This. You don’t have to offer praise. People who didn’t like the person can realize that he left behind a family and respectfully say nothing when someone’s death is announced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 12:27 PM |
| 1 | What speaks to you about the situation of modern society when it comes to Kevin Samuels Death?NPR posted a bait piece about Samuel’s death to Facebook and the comments celebrating his death were sickening. Some people called attention to this behavior but then the Brownshirt mob quickly replied claiming that Samuel’s life had no worth. The far left is treating people like Samuels like they are murderers and rapists. It’s sick and they are showing their moral hollowing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | What speaks to you about the situation of modern society when it comes to Kevin Samuels Death?“If you are not with me, then you’re my enemy.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 04:03 AM |
| 4 | The “Limp D-ck” male wall counter argumentI would not go nowhere near that high. However men who take care of themselves can probably stretch an active single life until their 50s or early 60s. Asian women can too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 04:01 AM |
| 3 | The “Limp D-ck” male wall counter argumentExactly. I’m not going to talk man nor woman out of choosing to remain single. Why do some women care so much that men over a certain age are choosing not to settle? I may say that some women who complain about not finding anyone may have rejected the wrong guys early in their journey but I won’t say a word if they accept and willingly choose living alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 03:58 AM |
| 15 | How to tell a girl I like her?Show don’t tell. Made that mistake many times and won’t make it again. | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 03:46 AM |
| 1 | WHERE THE FUCK DO I LOOK AT WHEN A GIRL IS WALKING PAST ME?I think many men have become a lot more vigilant about not giving the wrong signals since #MeToo. | /r/seduction | 27/04/22 11:15 AM |
| 1 | WHERE THE FUCK DO I LOOK AT WHEN A GIRL IS WALKING PAST ME?I had the same question but about cleavage. How do you avoid looking at well exposed cleavage when someone comes your way from near point blank range and you didn’t spot them first from a distance. I instinctively gaze down then catch myself and try to keep my eyes on her face or anywhere but the half exposed boobs. | /r/seduction | 27/04/22 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Paying for sex, am I a loser?How was it? | /r/seduction | 27/04/22 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasyThat happens I admit. You think things are all okay but she’s silently keeping score on something until one day when she needs to use it against you. I drifted away from someone - didn’t ghost , but she got so offended and won’t even talk to me as a friend acquaintance whereas guys can cuss each other out or come to blows and then pal around a year later like nothing happened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 03:26 AM |
| 17 | Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasyI agree with this assessment. I don’t think all marriages are BB situations but it’s not like many women are absolutely settling whether they see it that way or not. It’s up to the guy to decide whether he’s fine not lighting her fire on primal attraction alone or if he wants his mate to be that hot for him and into him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 02:05 AM |
| 8 | Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasyAgreed. The metric is how long did the hook up have to wait and how quick was her attraction for the bad body hookup and how long did the relationship guy wait and how much inner dialog did she engage in before she decided that relationship guy was good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Why sugar mommas are pretty rare but sugar daddies are quite popular?Women may momentarily be turned on by men with no financial prospects but not usually for long. Therefore even if a woman has money or makes good money, she will more than likely still seek out men with an equal or greater net worth. Men care less about a females net worth unless they are royals or elites it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | which advice changed youre whole gameGreat advice all of it. I was surprised with the effect of speaking slower with one girl - versus when I was trying to “entertain” and speak fast and witty. Granted I let myself get too calm and lost some of the thirst you need to escalate. | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Men are basically treated as an employee in relation to women, most of the time.I agree with you but there seems to be this in the zone state for some guys where they are the playing the game for women but they project a DGAF air. Granted, to pull this off you need to be above average in at least one key area like looks, social status or money. But I agree. What you put forth here is exactly why I start walking away as soon as women start asking too many questions about my job or where I live, etc - or if I get the sense they are measuring me up somehow instead of enjoying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 01:56 PM |
| 1 | What makes men date women with mental illnessess?Or maybe - why doesn’t she have a lot of friends vying for her time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/22 12:53 PM |
| 3 | What makes men date women with mental illnessess?This hook line and sinker routine is the real “catfishing”. I wish I could go back in time and somehow learn to test for and recognize red flags - and keep that knowledge because I’m not really certain I know how to recognize red flag women now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/22 11:46 AM |
| 1 | What makes men date women with mental illnessess?Subscribing because this describes most of my somewhat long term exes lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/22 11:38 AM |
| 2 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.As a man with average options shooting for near misses with Stacy, I’d say you can probably tell after the first date but it’s better to wait until the third date to gauge how much she is into you. If there is nothing physical happening after that, she’s probably not into you - assuming you already know that she has had past sexual relationships and is not a religious conservative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 11:27 PM |
| 9 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.I could tell when I was that guy and it was cringe to think about. I knew she was going out to parties where there were other men and staying out all night - but when it came to me she wanted to know I could be nice and be a provider and would kiss me 20 seconds max. That was 2-3 years ago. She’s also the person I know who insists the guy she dates is a “nice guy” and makes good money (lawyers or engineers) but would grind with guys on the dance floor. One time after I dated her and we were frie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 10:38 PM |
| 7 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.I wouldn’t call it oneitis but women know very quickly if the guy is one that gets a check for all items on their pick list. So she may not and seldom has oneitis, she’s into the guy enough to court the idea of trying to keep him an please him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 10:29 PM |
| 2 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.Honestly, I would tell most guys to give it two or three dates to measure sexual chemistry and eagerness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 10:14 PM |
| 9 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.My bad. I read through the post too quickly and glossed over the part about a single date. I read it as “after dating you” not “after going on a date”. My hasty generalization made your response look like a strawmen to me. I swear though, it’s possible this is a false flag iand the OP changer their post to make it look like everybody else didn’t read it lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 10:00 PM |
| 10 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.I agree completely. This is the most pragmatic algorithm for men to operate on. Redpill men know this or learn it; BP betas insist on waiting it out for their top pick then seldom get picked - or they somehow win that waiting game only to spend years always rushing to keep her pleased enough with comfort to stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 09:32 PM |
| 9 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.Nice strawman—- I mean straw person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 09:23 PM |
| 3 | If a woman continues to multi-date after going on a date with you, she's not into you.I’m down with multi dating so long as it is mutual and it doesn’t appear that she’s making me wait for anything beyond kissing, yet going down on random guys she just met at the bar or club. The treatment has to be mutual and equal. But I prefer agreeing that we can see other people then go by a “don’t ask don’t tell” policy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Regarding the post about women being “paranoid” about assault, what are things that women do in this regard that upset you?I was just reported for promoting hate. Check my comment history and tell me if I promoted hate and explain how. Lol ridiculous. This right here just proves what many men here are talking about with double standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Regarding the post about women being “paranoid” about assault, what are things that women do in this regard that upset you?I was just reported for promoting hate. Check my comment history and tell me if I promoted hate and explain how. Lol ridiculous. This right here just proves what many men here are talking about with double standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Regarding the post about women being “paranoid” about assault, what are things that women do in this regard that upset you?This. Women will allow moderately handsome and aggressive strangers in a club grope or grind on her but heavens forbid some homely guy makes an awkward glance or small talk or even just happens to be in the same que. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think this makes sense and could generate good discussion. They are not the make love not war liberals of yesterday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHasty generalization? I’m a moderate Democrat- maybe centrist but voted democrat 95% of the time. Perhaps it’s not politics dividing this issue. The consensus on the FB group Star Trek Shitposting is support for Will Smith standing up to a cruel joke. Notice I said super woke and not woke. My family members who are solidly conservative think I’m woke because I have basic respect for others life choices but I’m more “live and let live” and generally don’t care for making everything about identity… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadJada has Will Smith to hiss for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 11:41 AM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhite nights in the super woke; why does it go so well together? Why do super woke progressives applaud Will Smith resorting to violence to defend his wife’s “honor”? I think anyone believing in true equality among genders would believe that Jada could take care of herself it doesn’t need some man to stand up for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 11:39 AM |
| 1 | Women. What percentage of men do you meet in your regular day to day basis that you are attracted to?This pretty much sums up AFBB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?Or even thin or average. Just don’t be fat or more accurate, don’t be obese. Most lower 80% or men don’t really ask for much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?I was willing to love and marry at age 21 and stay for life — and comfortable with that monogamy idea by age 17 or 18. I imagine most men except the Biebers, Chads and Tyrones are willing to marry early. Those men probably outnumber ready to marry women 10 to 1. So what do we do? We enjoy the decline and forget the idea of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?This | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 02:48 AM |
| 2 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?Most men here are not angry about hypergamy. They are frustrated with the denial and subsequent cultural gaslighting. The double standard is something that is the burden of males and something women deny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 02:48 AM |
| 10 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.You should elevate this to a blog entry - using a pseudonym of course so you don’t face the long term downstream consequences of your free speech at the hands of the thought police. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveI could totally get behind that average if you know what I mean LOL. The 5 foot four and 145 in the right places would be a nice average indeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveBreak that down for me blue pill woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 12:35 PM |
| 1 | What brings a rise in wishing for a more trad lifestyle?Agreed. I wish there was a centrist party that catered to Blue Dog Democrats and moderate centrist Republicans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:36 AM |
| 2 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveSame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:28 AM |
| 4 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveI thought it was 5’4 and 145… but that average is not what is most typical. It’s a numerical average because there are some very heavy outliers raising the average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:27 AM |
| 4 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveWomen condition each other to care about validation for their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Women claim they wear makeup “for themselves” but they clearly do it to increase their SMV, which affords them immense privilege and attention they would not otherwise receiveI think it’s a hive mind link where many women do it because they believe it makes them more physically attractive and en masse they created a social expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:24 AM |
| 1 | What brings a rise in wishing for a more trad lifestyle?What was your major and what do you do for work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 04:50 AM |
| 1 | What brings a rise in wishing for a more trad lifestyle?Back in your father’s days men could work factory and blue collar jobs and still have enough money for a modest home, a wife at home and 1-2 vacations per year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 04:45 AM |
| 1 | What brings a rise in wishing for a more trad lifestyle?Grade inflation in some schools is a real issue. That leads to everyone thinking they are smart if they never attended a truly rigorous school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 01:14 AM |
| – | What brings a rise in wishing for a more trad lifestyle?It’s projection for sure lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/22 06:59 AM |
| – | What brings a rise in wishing for a more trad lifestyle?What did your black neighbors think about the changing demographics and influx of latinX immigrants? I’ve heard from some black ex military who are really upset by some open border practices. White progressives also seem to not notice that many blacks are religious and majority Christian. If the US had a centrist third party that was pro social services but more to the right with defense and immigration issues, the black caucus would move there and so would many other frustrated centrist democra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/22 06:53 AM |
| 1 | If men are the problem in western dating then why aren't women leaving the country to find other men?They’re not leaving the country; they are importing men from elsewhere or traveling for romance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Men are better off not watching and avoiding porn altogether.I used status broadly. For many younger men status can mean the size and appeal of their social circle, and the car they drive etc. That sort of status may not be lasting but it’s the kind of status many young men may be judged by and that status takes time and social investment and maybe a side hustle to afford the supe-d up Dodge Charger. I don’t think general wealth building status is a waste of time, but some guys may prioritize their time differently. It depends on their goals at the moment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Men are better off not watching and avoiding porn altogether.I don’t think you appreciate or understand how much time most men put into building attraction and status that would make them worthy enough of even getting a date, much less getting a date who is physically attracted to them enough to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Men are better off not watching and avoiding porn altogether.What has been the argument all along in this thread starting with the person before me? If you remember, one of the responders mentioned that instead of spending months, weeks, days and hours themselves better through working out, buying new fashion, going to parties and spending time on online dating and setting up dates, they may just spend 10 to 15 minutes looking up some porn To take care of the physical side of desire and then move on to spending their time on other things like their busine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Men are better off not watching and avoiding porn altogether.I stay away from full on porn but I do follow some women on OF and IG that are “inspiring”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Men are better off not watching and avoiding porn altogether.Im willing to be the vast majority of average looking (4-5 out of 10) women who don’t have personality disorders and are not obese (obesity would lower their rating below average ) can get boyfriend offers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Men are better off not watching and avoiding porn altogether.Many men fall in love with the woman they can’t have. They learn to grow attached to the women they can get. I can get dates and then a few of those will lead to sex but I also had to put some time into marking myself more attractive and then learning some game. However that time in self-improvement and OLD swiping and loads of first date OLD: took away from my grad school studies and my school performance suffered. It wasn’t the main reason but the time all of that took didn’t help. Some men ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:16 AM |
| 2 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about it”But I want a partner who's alive on purpose. Who makes decisions and choices on purpose. Who sleeps soundly because their decisions remain the right ones.” Unfortunately many people do sleep soundly because of some hamster justification. Where legal and morally provable, I do care about rights and wrongs, but I am far from perfect. ”I don't like the disconnect between "he's my one and only" and "the guys I chased in college could still get it". “ I need you to unpack this a bit more for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 06:21 PM |
| 3 | Is Male sexuality broken ?I don’t own any sex toys and can get sex if I devote time to it (texting, talking catching up or going below ideal on Tinder). However I can’t help but notice that the idea of men owning realistic sex dolls or female robots is academically demonized but women with mechanical duck-machines and sexbots if available would be celebrated as a way for ignored women to express their sexuality lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:44 PM |
| 5 | Is Male sexuality broken ?That’s golden and there is no retort that can touch it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Is Male sexuality broken ?Not broken but subverted and somewhat controlled. That’s OK, we are used to double standards in almost every category you can think of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Women are biologically more selective than menCan you dm the link to me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Women are biologically more selective than menNice essay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:18 AM |
| 1 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?Women always say they want men to see them for their brains and personality but then many women fish for validation on TikTok and IG by posting pictures of themselves in sexy or cute poses where they are the subject of the post and not their work or art or music, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:19 AM |
| 2 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itMost men over 25 don’t expect a virgin but most probably don’t want a woman with 5-10x their n count. A man who’s only been with 5-10 women would probably feel oddly about committing to a women who has been with 50 men or more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:11 AM |
| -1 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itHey girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:01 AM |
| 4 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itDems facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 03:00 AM |
| 7 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itI’ve actually caught women changing their story about past sexual events they told me about early in the dating or when we were friends. In general one girl was talking loose about party times and started telling me about some random guy she met in her past. They had met only recently and they started to mess around in his car. She made a big deal about it because he was tall and they were in a small car. A year or so later when we were committed (I was a very naïve blue pill then) I asked her a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.Yep. That’s been my experience and maybe some of us are outliers but we dare to try and sometimes succeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.If you have yourself together and stay in shape and practice good grooming you can get a lot of mileage out of life as a single male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 05:09 AM |
| 7 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.You get it. It seems like the women here protest too much about age gaps and now they are denying them wholesale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.This reads like FDS denial wish fulfillment. Don’t worry lads. I date younger by 10 years (xenial) and so do other men I know in their 30s and early 40s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?Yep I would take that as wanting to avoid me. Since I’m not pushy enough I would just give you your distance. Makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?What message is she or other social media darlings sending anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:54 AM |
| 2 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?Here it is gents. There are multiple ways to be a protector or provider and she’s spelling out the most literal kind, the rough tough guy. I suppose you could also possibly show this with wealth and possessions. It really depends on the age of the girl though. Women 18-25 probably want the prettier Chad with social proof and women approaching 30 and beyond are more attracted to a man who reeks masculinity instead of the man who is beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?What do women mean when they use “bad boy” to describe a man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Question for TRP: What type of man do you consider a "Top" man or High Value Man?You can cultivate them. What activities do you enjoy and what school subjects did you enjoy the most? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Question for TRP: What type of man do you consider a "Top" man or High Value Man?Find your strengths and what you can hyper focus on and find a way to monetize them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 05:29 AM |
| 3 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?What is your type and what have you done to pursue it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 05:26 AM |
| 2 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?Seconded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 05:20 AM |
| 3 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?Thank you. And is it possible for a girl to be shy with attraction yet more outward when it comes to other social encounters? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 05:17 AM |
| 7 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?This changed my view on this today. I may go back and amend my other comment. It’s hard to comment without seeing the source so I just assumed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 05:13 AM |
| 14 | Are there any women that really believe they attract the wrong kind of men?She’s choosing those that most excite her (masculine good looking but dark triad men) then is shocked (gasp) when they either want to control her or pump and move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 05:10 AM |
| 4 | Question for TRP: What type of man do you consider a "Top" man or High Value Man?This is probably the most straight forward redpilled response. Financial stability and usefulness alone is only the bare minimum to become a comfort husband. The guy who has most of the above list walks into any party or situation and walks out with at least a handful of women wanting to drop their clothes on the spot for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Question for TRP: What type of man do you consider a "Top" man or High Value Man?You can always compensate in some other area. Become hella useful or extremely skilled in a valued trade. Have class and build wealth for what you do but not how you say things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 04:42 AM |
| 6 | Something I’ve noticed with the women here in terms of TRPWatch what women do and who they choose and not what they say they do or how they say they choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?True for those practices with RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?Oh yeah I agree with you on keeping frame. In TRP it’s a delicate balance between becoming what women want while keeping your integrity and frame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?If you’re spinning plates you are getting regular sex and therefore not sex starved. That helps the man make a decision about commitment based on the women’s other qualities (will she be a patient loving mom and she can talk about cool things) and not about her being the end to his sexless life. People say don’t grocery shop when you’re hungry for the same reason. You make bad decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?Nice. Super efficient | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?I’m not very versed in black pill but I think status can matter as much as looks and that blackpillers accept that when it’s privileged men born into and living in money and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 06:35 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?I agree. They say don’t become a doormat to women but they dance monkey dance if it means picking up a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: can you succinctly describe PUA, TRP, black pill, and MGTOW and how they differ?This is the summary you are looking for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 06:32 PM |
| 0 | If ww3 occured now, how do you think social norms would shift among men and women?I’d say it’s less forced wifedom and actually more about how different gender politics now would shape who and how we defend our land and places. But it may also be about women appreciating how much men have historically sacrificed over the course of written history. Men died in droves protecting their lands so that women and children would not be shipped off somewhere into slavery in some harem somewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | If ww3 occured now, how do you think social norms would shift among men and women?Another realist. It’s not pretty but I agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 05:18 PM |
| 2 | If ww3 occured now, how do you think social norms would shift among men and women?I think societies with a strong element of social identity and a decent organized military like China, Japan and Russia would succeed. The soft west and the overly tribal Middle East and Africa would fare worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 05:15 PM |
| 2 | If ww3 occured now, how do you think social norms would shift among men and women?I think I see this a lot more than I realize and have to agree. It’s that guy, if he’s decent looking enough and doesn’t look like an old homeless guy (nonn no offense to the real homeless) that will by sheer numbers game AMOG lots of other men including those that are actually stronger, better looking, smarter and more successful in careers. And unfortunate many women interpret this as “strength” and are drawn to it but many times realize this is not the guy they thought he was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isSpeaking of strawmen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isLol brah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Dunking on Legal Age-Gap Relationships is not the Flex You Think it isThank you. Good post but it would be even better to follow up with more science evidence. It benefits wine aunt cat moms to dunk on men for their preferences lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 01:09 AM |
| 2 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialI think a lot of people, mostly men I think happily find attraction in new features and soft settle. What I am mainly referring to is a “hard settle“. This may be completely biased to my experiences with myself and other men, but I think 90% of men are perfectly fine with a perfectly average woman who is pleasant and who would be a good mom. Even though they would love to have a pop idol or starlet in their bed, they have eagerly live lives with perfectly average women who may even have one or t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 12:11 PM |
| 1 | One More Condom in the LandfillIt’s the take it or leave it attitude that comes with having options. There are plenty of attractive, well groomed guys with decent jobs who are still put into the boyfriend material box because of their attitude and niceness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 09:37 PM |
| 2 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialAFBB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 08:34 PM |
| 2 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialThis although I prefer it to be the 2-4th date with clear signals of desire as early as the first date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 08:33 PM |
| 22 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialWell put and I no longer accept it. I walk away and move on. I’d rather grow old single than settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 08:20 PM |
| 1 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialThis is a most excellent way of describing this idea. I’ve heard women talk about men they instantly thought was the sexiest guy in the room and they talked and sometimes acted as if they couldn’t control their desire. Their desire was lit. When a women then tells you she saw you as “husband material” it says “I’m able to control my desire around you”. It instantly says you’re not the sexy guy she wants to go horizontal with. Men don’t want that, but many men accept it as a cope so they don’t ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.I’m adding another important one. She must actively initiate sex as much as I would do. If she doesn’t want me at least three or four times a week, she probably doesn’t want me at all. The only quality that would balance out desire is exceptional sweetness and only if she has been been a virginal good girl all her life. Barring illness or a serious disease, if she doesn’t want sex with you frequently, then she’s only in a relationship with you for security and comfort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 09:16 PM |
| 1 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.You summed up a lot of what I was thinking. I don’t like having to jump through too many comfort or shit tests or tests for jumping to the next stage. I’m don’t deal well with loaded trick questions or setups. You either enjoy time with me or you accept and move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.Agreed. Wondering about her real fidelity is not worth it. And most so-called guy friends are much more generous than a bro is to another bro, or women are to each other, which places another level of expectation that you then have to meet. It’s not worth it. Keep the ltr heuristic as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 04:08 AM |
| 1 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.I can second all of this. For attraction, just stay under the obesity level 1 line and we’re good. I expand cooperativeness into agreeableness. High agreeableness, low neuroticism and medium to high openness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 03:51 AM |
| 1 | META-ANALYSIS: Many studies show that adult virgins (and late bloomers) are unpopular, bullied, ostracized, socially isolated, have low status, etc.Now I don’t feel so bad about spending too much time seeking out social gatherings and parties in high school and undergrad. But it’s all about balance. I lost my V at 17 with a girl younger than me - and I felt late to the game then. After that I sought it out more and became more social until I saw a pattern of where I would get sullen if I was stuck in a party of strangers without my close peer group. I was always a little eccentric weird and a loner but looked good enough to get positive att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 06:34 AM |
| 5 | If dating was a subject/unit what grade would you give yourself?Wow. This. I would sometimes get a B- if everything in the universe clicked - and other times an F. Most women here. Meh. I always got attraction back so B-A++ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 01:34 AM |
| 9 | Is it really bad if, after a woman asks me what my height is, I ask her what her weight is?Dress size is a better indicator if you know her height | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:40 AM |
| 13 | Is it really bad if, after a woman asks me what my height is, I ask her what her weight is?Look for full body shots. If you don’t see at least one picture that shows all of the waist up there’s a good chance it’s intentional and she’s hiding it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:36 AM |
| 3 | Is it really bad if, after a woman asks me what my height is, I ask her what her weight is?Lol. Never gets old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | What standards are TOO high?True and I realize that now and she was truly virtuous I think. I moved across town and got a new job and all of that made it harder to see her as much as I had been when I was just doing grad school and freelance gigs. Still, I would have tried harder to see her if I had valued sensual activity as much as full on sexual activity. I know now she wasn’t just making me wait because I wasn’t good enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:24 PM |
| 3 | At what number of sexual partners would you consider somebody ‘promiscuous’?Boom. This is why looking at the number cast over units of time gives a better picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:19 PM |
| 1 | At what number of sexual partners would you consider somebody ‘promiscuous’?I think you need a rate for this so that you have a frequency per unit of time. 10 partners spread out over 20 years is a rate of 1 sexual partner every two years. 10 partners in 10 months is a rate of 1 new sexual partner every month which for that period of time I might call promiscuous. 10 partners on one month is 1 every 3 days which is very promiscuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Men: incels are poor unloved victims because their looks, why do women not like incels???? Also incels:The comment is horrible but my thoughts about authenticity extend to any social media use of an undocumented screen shot, especially the ones conspiracy theorists use. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:58 AM |
| 0 | What standards are TOO high?I made a mistake thinking she was taking me for a chump because we didn’t progress beyond kissing and petting all night. I enjoyed being with her last year but I let this RP voice get inside my head and convince me that she was taking me for a chump when in reality if I welcomed it, she would’ve been with me every night. She was from another country, and seemed to be cautious and somewhat conservative that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 04:46 AM |
| 0 | Men: incels are poor unloved victims because their looks, why do women not like incels???? Also incels:How can we prove the screenshot is real? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Men: incels are poor unloved victims because their looks, why do women not like incels???? Also incels:How can we eve verify that this is real? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Men: incels are poor unloved victims because their looks, why do women not like incels???? Also incels:An extreme anecdote that you think proves the point of the narrative you follow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Most of the time I don’t even think about this garbage. My attention to it is a function of reading the garbage here. In all I think I may at most get lost in this one day every 1-2 weeks - and usually when I’ve been up late at night lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?If you can’t beat them at the game, join them right? Do you ever wonder why everyone seems to know several biological males that wake up one day and realize they want a “she/her” pronoun but very few people know anyone moving from biological female to “him” much less a female who actually wants to transition? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:52 PM |
| 2 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Boom. That’s it and they will go to all political ends to normalize obesity (in women only) and invoke fat phobia to convince men to consider dating outside their standards. But average dweeb beta men? Just deal with it guys tee hee hee lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Great response. You should develop this into a discussion post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:38 PM |
| 4 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Yep. At the end of the day the only reason I am here at PPD is to point out the massive double standards. The fat phobia narrative is all to benefit women. Have you ever seen mens clothing posters or commercials featuring heavy set men or even shorter men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Facts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Extrapolate that some more. What things does a genetically average guy do to become above average? Is growing income and showing it part of that plan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:24 PM |
| 7 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Sympathy and maybe empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?If you cold approach in real life and you’re not preselected or in her in group you’re a creep. If you use OLD and you’re not Chad, you’re a loser. The comments speak for themselves gents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:20 PM |
| 6 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?I hope the OP noted the amazing lack of sympathy here. I’m actually shocked at the comments but I shouldn’t be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:16 PM |
| 25 | Why don't you make a dating profile of an average man?Too many women use “average” when they mean typical (out of the men they notice) but don’t look like they could be an Instagram model, music heartthrob or Hollywood leading man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 06:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: as long as women hold views like these regarding male virginity, you cannot act like male promiscuity is equivalent to female promiscuity.It would be nice if people didn’t objectify people but it’s what many do. The lock and key thing is a tired analogy though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Does TRP actually UNDER estimate just how much looks matter?I’m not here to comment on TRP but I think many here forget that male status of multiple types amps up attraction. A former date, then roommate then try again to date friend of mine spent the last 2 years single and then told me recently she has a boyfriend now. She had to mention that he’s a Lawyer and a nice guy. But when she was thumbing through Bumble in front of me one night she made comments about the men’s jobs. It’s not the first time but both women I knew that did this were from Muslim … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4W What do you think about promiscuous “slutty” women?Not at all now, but I used to fit the bill. I’m not a chump anymore but I still get frustrated about how certain arguments are framed here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Outliers, the people who supposedly don’t exist or are in the minority according to TRP, what are YOUR personal views on TRP?Yep. Now I realize I have options (or did have a lot before Covid) but I should have stayed with one or two and focused on my mission. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 03:37 PM |
| 7 | Outliers, the people who supposedly don’t exist or are in the minority according to TRP, what are YOUR personal views on TRP?That’s why the initial stage is called the rage phase and unfortunately people in that phase are the most vocal on Reddit. It really is a harsh wake up call to be shown that the nice boy your mom told you to be is not what gets you noticed or loved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Outliers, the people who supposedly don’t exist or are in the minority according to TRP, what are YOUR personal views on TRP?Perfect summation. We can blame ourselves but also lament that the game has changed because of OLD and to Covid probably. I was doing well before Covid but I think the higher quality women are more selective post Covid and willing to wait longer before trying a meet up with someone cool but not a Chad lawyer. As a result they are probably (I suspect) upping their looks, career and lifestyle standards of the men they will consider meeting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W What do you think about promiscuous “slutty” women?Lol. I think many of us are experienced but mostly AFCs who are frustrated with double standards and frustrated with the rising slope of effort required vs the return on investment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4W What do you think about promiscuous “slutty” women?Reducing the cognitive heuristics load to watch your 6 with less time wasted on deliberation of every case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 03:19 PM |
| 0 | Q4W What do you think about promiscuous “slutty” women?This is AFBB in a nutshell. Women will give it up to Chad and Tyrone in a heartbeat any way he wants it even if it’s unsafe. BB will have to wait for at least 1-100 dates and definitely won’t be given a condom pass. Not that I would want a condom pass and I have been able to go home the first night, but not with the quality of women I really wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 03:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: as long as women hold views like these regarding male virginity, you cannot act like male promiscuity is equivalent to female promiscuity.Men have to work hard to get sex. Therefore, the key that unlocks many doors is more high value than the door that unlocks for many keys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 07:21 PM |
| 2 | What happens to men who struggle in dating?A lack of a desire to focus attention and learn non-preferred material or too easily distracted that you miss key details in a demo or lecture ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 07:17 PM |
| 3 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Unless you are built like a maxed muscle super hero or are super low body fat % she will assume you don’t work out. They just assume muscular and in-shape means you’re a natural who has a responsible diet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:42 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?This inspired me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:37 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?This here explains my requirements. I factor in an agreeable open personally and interesting interests and academic interests and I’m sold. “Jfl why are we even having this conversation/ debate. Everyone knows that when it comes for your typical dude, a woman just has to be a plain Jane with a normal bmi, and she's good to go.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Another good one. I’m glad this sub had this talk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:28 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Great contrast and explanation. You can also see how this works out in Hollywood. Most of the action or sexy leading men are now 6’2 plus and some like Lee Pace are around 6’6. Male actor heights in the 2000s and before were a little shorter with exceptions (most James Bond actors were 6’-6’2” except Daniel Craig) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:27 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?This quantifies it right here. Women would see men with a BMI of 25 who is average height and average muscle as being icky. Give him more muscle and height and he can pull it off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:11 PM |
| 3 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Rubenesque women in renaissance art were not obese. Many men will tell you they like and accept women in the first couple of stages of medically overweight. But that’s not what is pushed in the narrative. Female activists are actually pushing later stage and obese women for the “love your shape” movement despite it being an overwhelmingly unhealthy weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:09 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:05 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?I didn’t realize that lifting would also enhance frame dimensions and I already had a decent base of shoulder width but running for my leg days resulted in an almost cartoonish look now where I am almost literally a cocktail 🍸 glass shape with the upside down triangle. I need to add more pulls and arm isolated and leg isolated lifts to counteract my shoulder and chest breadth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:21 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to body standards, are men's harder to meet?Thank you! Just look at any Mirror ad and you’ll see several stage 1-3 overweight women but zero and I mean zero slightly (10-20lbs) overweight men. Hell, you won’t see any average weight but not “defined” men. You’ll see lean skinny men or muscle toned men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:15 PM |
| 1 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestGood one. It helps to make your likes and dislikes known so that maybe you can give women an inside angle for angling you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 02:51 PM |
| 2 | What happens to men who struggle in dating?I would suspect ADHD or some visual or auditory processing difficulty and not actual intelligence. The fact that you have a career suggests an average IQ. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 06:27 AM |
| 5 | What happens to men who struggle in dating?This. Average men or men who are above average looks but low on charm and social game would do much more good for themselves if they got involved in the community, especially religion and church. Most conservative women are at least looking for religious men and men who hold their political values. I actually had s match on Tinder talk to me for a while but turn me down when I said I did not really like Trump. I didn’t say I hated him - just that I didn’t really support him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 06:11 AM |
| 2 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?I’m curious. What physical features do you think would make a woman below average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 01:11 AM |
| 3 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?Man here that appreciates an agreeable and nurturing feminine nature: it matters so long as the woman is at least near average in physical traits and is not obese. I made the choice for someone because they were sweeter yet not more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/21 03:23 AM |
| 4 | Women have higher standards for casual sex. This tends to demonstrate that committed relationships are the consolation prize”it causes them to pick less masculine men. Generally, people believe this is because such men are more likely to invest in their children (or whoever’s child it is).” lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 11:51 AM |
| 6 | Women have higher standards for casual sex. This tends to demonstrate that committed relationships are the consolation prizeWith women into drugs or in a low part of their life maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 11:49 AM |
| 5 | Would it still bother you if your partner was willing to do sexual acts with exes, but wouldn't with you - but the sexual acts are ones you don't want at all?Same. I honestly don’t care anymore unless I am with someone who flirted all the time with other men and talked about past encounters - but expressed a lack of interest with me. But new me wouldn’t stick around in that kind of “relationship” situation. One ex like that several years back was enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?I guess there’s always the real gamer girls who actually get into gaming but even the ones who say they are nerdy will turn fast unless you show less need first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 02:01 AM |
| 2 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?Once you are approved and a little time tested past her ick or vulnerability detectors you have some level of security. You get the bonus called the “Halo effect”. Right off the bat many average men give too many women the benefit of the Halo effect and this is where they set themselves up for destroying attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:37 PM |
| 0 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?This. Perfect explanation of the gender norm behavior double standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?I think you should provide an example to make this lesson easier to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:41 PM |
| 15 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?And women blame men for toxic masculinity lol. They are the ones that most actively and willingly incentivize it and those who benefit the most from it 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:40 PM |
| 12 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?Yep 👍 I’ve had women go from touching me in class a lot to almost ghosting me on text because of some nerdy meme or joke I shared - or something similar. The fastest way to kill attraction is by showing any vulnerability (soft spots) or genuinely being too accommodating (nice). There’s a reason that’s lesson number one in any men’s group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:36 PM |
| 15 | Just how easily can a girl be put off a guy she found attractive?Yeah but the guy singing in the car was just living in the moment and when found out was instantly demoted, not for his insecurities but because he expressed a trait that turned her off. I’m 9000% certain that’s happened to me more times than I’m aware. Short lesson: you can’t be yourself and max out with the majority of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Lol. This award worthy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I don’t think they chase as much as settle for average or near average guys with secure jobs and good comfort skills, then fantasize or maybe choose flings and high risk sex with top 10% attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:20 PM |
| 1 | The number of men not having sex within the past year tripled between 2008 and 2018. Why is that?Which is why I now look for high agreeableness and someone who is less high strung and more flexible and easy going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:34 AM |
| 2 | The number of men not having sex within the past year tripled between 2008 and 2018. Why is that?A higher prevalence of women getting mental illness can explain why there are more women by seeking help by the numbers alone. The comparison would need to be weighted or stratified by whether there was a documented concern of mental illness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:31 AM |
| 1 | The number of men not having sex within the past year tripled between 2008 and 2018. Why is that?I realized too late that you need some indirect means of vetting. Usually people with real life social circles even at school or a league sport have fewer antisocial (not introvert) personality disorders else no one would want to be around them much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:28 AM |
| 1 | People can be "looking for" more than one thing at the same time.True dat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | People can be "looking for" more than one thing at the same time.I like this a lot but it only works for people who are honest about themselves and really accept what the other person is telling them. I told a Tinder date last year that I was keeping it open and not just looking for a fwb but she took that to mean that if we got sexual that I would commit indefinitely. Listen and understand and be outcome independent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 02:30 AM |
| 32 | The number of men not having sex within the past year tripled between 2008 and 2018. Why is that?Unfortunately I think these slim pickings for average guys and below are here to stay. The only long term viable alternative is fully legalizing all physical sex work and realistic android synthetic humans. In the past three years I’ve dated about 11-12 different women, and 2-3 offered more benefit than cost and at least one of those had some BPD or extreme anxiety turned aggravated bitchiness, but the physical part was good, so maybe actually only 1 lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 04:56 AM |
| 1 | FDS really isn't that badInteresting. Thanks. I briefly scanned and saw references to leveling up but not much advice about what they work on to level up. What sorts of advice do the women there give on what to work on to level up? At TRP and seduction it was all about “just lift bro”, fitness, fashion and grooming, finances to a lesser extent, and personality-confidence-frame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/21 01:31 PM |
| 3 | FDS really isn't that badI don’t consider myself RP anymore but when I first started I read the prescriptions and worked on myself first. The most important thing in TRP is upping your value through self improvement. What self-improvement goals does FDS preach? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 09:17 PM |
| -1 | FDS really isn't that badYeah I think you can say that there is bitterness, but I don’t find any evidence of hate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 09:12 PM |
| 1 | The amount of effort men put into their female friendships is SEVERELY DISPROPORTIONATE to the amount of effort females put into their male friendshipsGood take and I am pretty sure I’ve been both types you described; the oneitis deluded guy 3.5 years ago and the later challenge guy more recently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 05:13 AM |
| 1 | If all women are attracted to a similar type of man physically...what type of personality appeals to the broadest amount of women?And then many women will bring up toxic masculinity and how men repressing their emotions may explain the higher rates of suicide among males 25-50 as compared to females of the same ages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 04:04 AM |
| 2 | If a guy is willing and able to commit to you but you are higher up the social/economic ladder than he is, does he still have a chance? and Why?Yes. It’s not the preferences. It’s the dishonesty and unwillingness to own them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 02:12 AM |
| 2 | If a guy is willing and able to commit to you but you are higher up the social/economic ladder than he is, does he still have a chance? and Why?The man has a shot if he is a manly man, hot blue collar worker, LEO or military. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 02:08 AM |
| 12 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"Very interesting post and welcome overdue nuance. I really feel like this is a thing. After the 6 month of Covid and eating like crap and not hitting the gym I was 10-15lbs overweight from ideal thanks to food shortages at the grocery store which meant I was ordering Pizza, and my new state of having an alcohol drink every day. I was not a “natural” (or on drug stimulants) where I could eat crap, not work out and stay super lean with abs and delts showing. I stated running again over the summer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 04:53 AM |
| 2 | A woman shows her true self when she’s youngI’m adding that maturity probably is not what many think it is - and it definitely isn’t a categorical switch from childlike to mature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 04:43 AM |
| 0 | A woman shows her true self when she’s youngI wouldn’t say maturity but maybe a form of wisdom for some where they learn to predict possible outcomes based on past hard knocks - and then also an acknowledgement of limits of their own capabilities and the limits of social exchange (others will shut you out if you are too obvious about abusing your social influence). None of that above erases the person’s core wants and desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 03:08 AM |
| 3 | If all women are attracted to a similar type of man physically...what type of personality appeals to the broadest amount of women?Where can we read more about the psychometrics of 1 and 2? I reached a certain point with my physical appearance and inwardly more confident, lowering neuroticism, but I am still prone to impostor syndrome and I’m always an introvert. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 02:46 AM |
| 3 | If all women are attracted to a similar type of man physically...what type of personality appeals to the broadest amount of women?That’s what you thought lol but we never quite left it. We only had more social institutions keeping a certain order for society (the patriarchy) and now we’re going backwards to the jungle but that’s an unintended consequence the feminist architects did not foresee or want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 02:43 AM |
| 4 | If all women are attracted to a similar type of man physically...what type of personality appeals to the broadest amount of women?Good point. A lot of women say they want vulnerability too but I think they mean they want something else and not actual insecurity showing from a man. No woman ever besides my mom loved a grown man who was anything but in control of life and invulnerable to external pressures. I think women are drawn to men who appear to be invulnerable so they don’t have to “always be on” and perfectly composed themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 02:40 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.In my experience, and the experience of other men I know, n counts with different people and mainly hook ups, and likelihood of infidelity are highly correlated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Do men who are obsessed with dating much younger women seriously overstate the desire that younger women might have towards them? (Kinda NSFW)This is the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Do men who are obsessed with dating much younger women seriously overstate the desire that younger women might have towards them? (Kinda NSFW)Yep. It’s worth the wait though if your effort is consistent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 04:12 AM |
| -1 | Do men who are obsessed with dating much younger women seriously overstate the desire that younger women might have towards them? (Kinda NSFW)Been there and when I (late 30s) was out with this girl in her early 20s this one older woman ( probably 55-60) in the cafe looked like her head was about to explode. Same happened on a run with a 27 year old I dated for a bit - woman in her 30s on the run looked at me like I was a being obscene and made this mad disgusted face. That wasn’t the last time either. But you have to be in the right environment and it takes some effort for me. For various reasons I blew the opportunity for a longer re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 04:10 AM |
| 3 | How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is realI agree. And you have to develop yourself enough to know that you could always have options. If you know you have options you don’t have to put up with possible cheating or disloyal (always overly flirting with other men). You can check out and leave. Don’t be too quick to marry. Show that you can have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 11:25 AM |
| 2 | How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is realAnd if you’re going to a popular bar or club then most of the lower 80% of men are staying home unless it’s a low class bar. I’ve seen this in action at a club recently. In the early hours it was mostly average men. Around midnight the Chads and Tyrones, all a little better dressed, better facial looks and over 6 feet tall showed up and started getting all the attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 11:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.That was great and what I needed to read today. This inspired me into another thought about wallet value and masculine value and how they are not always the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 05:34 AM |
| 1 | What do sexually unsuccessful people want/expect from others when they air their grievances?You have to have a hamster to understand how those seemingly identical statements are actually different lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 05:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.It’s what average men have to do if they want a love life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.I can definitely see that. However, only for a certain kind of self-respect. Women seem to like appreciate and adore what they call “big dick energy“ or at least the kind Pete Davidson shows. If BDE takes a certain level of self efficacy, what’s the difference? Does it only matter when men use their self respect to set boundaries and standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 09:40 PM |
| 26 | What do sexually unsuccessful people want/expect from others when they air their grievances?At least someone’s still human around here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:29 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAll men need to do is be over 6 feet tall, have status and humor and a 10” dong. I’m sure if men just worked hard enough they could it /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 03:39 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.I see a lot of self-professed nerdy gen Z women here mixed in with a few women over 30 who prefer strong men. This group of females are not the ones most of us talk about when we speak of women who chase after the masculine rule bender slightly dark triad guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 03:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.You can still learn to play the game but lament the sad state of human affairs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 03:18 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.Agreed. Even if I’m not Chad level I have internalized my worth, my self-efficacy in terms of dating to the point that I no longer feel fear of losing out compelled to abide bad behavior and non-agreeableness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 03:11 AM |
| 0 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.I’ll the decline. You can keep the decay lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 03:39 AM |
| 4 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.Exactly. I’m don’t care what a woman does with her body - I just have the bias that a woman who is bffs with more guys than girls is probably confusing male thirst for male friend attention and is incapable of having a committed relationship without strings attached. I don’t slut shame but I’ve heard women I’ve dated indirectly refer to other women we both know as ‘sluts. They will also point out the star female on a TV show (like You) and say she’s fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Does seeing a guy receiving interest from other women change your perception of him?This is a male answer not a woman. As an average sort of guy who was creative with his fashion and ideas, women seeing attention from other women often worked in my favor. Obviously, if you are a Chad or Tyrone you don’t need this. However, lots of guys can leverage it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 12:45 PM |
| 1 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestBeen there but I’m looking for something more longterm without the guilt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 02:46 AM |
| 2 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestChad has entered the chat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:47 PM |
| 0 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestAgreed. Assuming this behavior described above indicates sexual interest is more likely to get guys in trouble than to lead anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:45 PM |
| 2 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestAnd the consequences are dire for men when they completely misread what looks like flirty behaviors. If a woman misreads, the guy may feel awkward if he finds her unattractive, but otherwise he’ll say it’s all good and move on. If a man misreads nice or very social friendly behavior that crosses over into flirting, or he acts later on but not at the signal time, then he’s branded as a creep or worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:29 PM |
| 5 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestIt is eye-opening. And it’s all relative to your market value in her market value. I’m in an awkward place where for some women I’m perceived as being higher value and they made it fairly obvious enough for me if I hung around them enough.For the women I was more interested in, it was more complicated. I wasn’t high-value enough for them to make it very obvious for me, but I was just acceptable enough for them to have some ephemeral interest and say some things that I now realize were overly sub… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:01 PM |
| 1 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestOh. You big mad bro? LOL. Just having fun. It’s not that deep bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:52 PM |
| 3 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestThat’s enough White Knighting for one day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestThat would work for me. Many of us understand direct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:16 AM |
| 2 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestThis is the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:15 AM |
| 5 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestI’m many cases women have complained about men mistaking being nice for thinking that she’s attracted to them. There’s a reason men are sometimes slow to respond to indirect signals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:15 AM |
| 1 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestThanks for all the open answers. I hope to respond to some of them soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:10 AM |
| 2 | QfW Most Common Ways you Signal InterestI could see that an hour and some being a very obvious signal, but in my teens and early 20s I probably would’ve been too confused by the behavior to act. It’s so peculiar that you’re brain instantly begins to go into threat detection mode instead of pleasure seeking Social interaction mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 02:57 PM |
| 5 | CMV watch what women do not what they say is true… and is equally true for men.They want to be social media influencers and run YouTube gaming channels and stay at home. It’s the new sports or rock star dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 12:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV watch what women do not what they say is true… and is equally true for men.Agreed. I among others men don’t want to be used for emotional and financial support only when instead she could be well adjusted and agreeable and have some basic capacity to pay her personal bills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 12:49 PM |
| 5 | "Put your finger in the coffee, it'll make it sweeter": endearing or Harvey Weinstein?This. I mean it’s cringe but it’s not horrifying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | What's your shallowest turnoff ?The moody thing where she needs constant emotional support via using someone else as an emotional so tampon is a turn off for me too. Shallow. Perhaps but I have to live life and not suffer it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 12:04 PM |
| 1 | What's your shallowest turnoff ?Weight. I’m fine with a little extra fluff so long as she still has a waist 25% smaller than her hips and breast, doesn’t have a layer of adipose around the neck and no muffin top. Basically not medically obese. Acting entitled like standing in front of the coffee at work either moving slow or having a conversation while someone else is waiting to get coffee forcing them to say “excuse me”; Toxic positivity Women who flirt with every halfway decent male that gives them attention - and seeks vali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 11:58 AM |
| 10 | Is it really true that women will reject a guy if he looks too good?This is the truth for most men lol. This example is far too obvious. Sure, I’ve had some (average) women be very direct but it’s rare and they were more into me than I was into them. Even then 9 times out of 10 I still had to initiate the final steps to a hook up. It’s different with women who have lots of options and or they are above average in looks. Most of the time you get some kind of ‘signaling’ but then some like me have probably messed up the timing and the messaging of the signaling ga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 09:55 AM |
| 1 | What makes a man " intimidating"I learned my lessons and learned to accept playing at the game on some level but it’s still a sad reality that I feel safe airing out on Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 03:27 AM |
| 3 | What makes a man " intimidating"Yep. The person who sings hello to everyone was the one who threw me under the bus for telling a retired part time 70 year old woman poc (high risk group) what I knew about my director’s exposure to COVID - months before the vaccine was available. The person who I didn’t think liked me actually turned out to be the person I could trust most - because her opinions were real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 10:09 AM |
| 9 | What makes a man " intimidating"I’m glad someone else sees the work demeanor thing for what it is. My work place drips saccharine “Barney the dinosaur” glee and toxic positivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 04:38 AM |
| 2 | Men are generally more romantic than womenI was most creative when I was down about love or alternately hyped up about some novel idea. I’m just trying to wrap my head around the idea that I may sabotage relationships before I can pair bond. I just don’t get that same feeling I did 3 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Men are generally more romantic than womenSame. What is this love and why does it have to work like that? The one I was gonzo crazy about was never actually realized and I don’t think she would have made me jump through those proving hoops. The ones that made me dance the dance were ones I thought were attractive and saw as a challenge. I never quiet felt the same way about them as I did with my last blue pill crush a little over 3 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 07:21 AM |
| 4 | Men are generally more romantic than womenI’m probably all wrong. Who knows. I just kind of know from my own personal experience. When I was dating a woman who may have perceived herself to be slightly below or below me in looks match for me I got a lot more treats and favors. I also noticed it when I dated Asian women they would give me a little gifts more than US women. They usually did things like bring me snacks they made. If I was shooting for a western woman who was about a 7.5 or higher, I was expected to take more of the lead in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/21 10:58 PM |
| 13 | Men are generally more romantic than womenI’ve known some women who have made great gestures, but they usually stop sooner than men when the gestures are not reciprocated. Their window for making gestures is much narrower and ephemeral. Also, women do more and make more gestures when they are dating up than when they are dating on looks and status level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/21 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Do most women prefer to share their attractive male partner rather than to settle with average or below average partner?Got It. I read way too much into that comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 03:45 AM |
| 3 | Do most women prefer to share their attractive male partner rather than to settle with average or below average partner?Because they flirt with illegal dealings? Or they are dark triad business leaders? Break it down for me some more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 03:57 AM |
| 2 | if you're a young woman that only dates men who earn 80k+, then you can't complain about older men dating young women.That’s works. Usually it’s logistics, peer groups and life experiences that make age gap relationships less likely. Hive mind shaming need not be part of the equation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 03:20 AM |
| 5 | if you're a young woman that only dates men who earn 80k+, then you can't complain about older men dating young women.I would push the age threshold to 21. If the legal drinking age in the US is 21 and we supposedly say that young adult brains are fully formed by the early 20s, then age gaps should not matter and decisions should be up to individual preference and the shame train should stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 02:21 AM |
| 4 | If women don’t prefer abusive men, why are they more lenient with them than shy/introverted men?I could see this as a bias that confounds some psychometric test. Because status is something that men are more dependent on and concerned about, men may be more prone to risk taking than risk aversion and part of that may include puffing up their strengths more and concealing their weaknesses more than reality would dictate. You see this all the time in business. Men gamble more and men also win the gamble more as a result. The men I knew in graduate school tended towards taking the novel appro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 12:26 AM |
| 2 | If women don’t prefer abusive men, why are they more lenient with them than shy/introverted men?Brave comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 09:07 PM |
| 2 | If women don’t prefer abusive men, why are they more lenient with them than shy/introverted men?Brave comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t like men that look YOUNGER than themOr make it much less of an issue. If OP has a Bieber face best not go with a Bieber cut circa 2017 (assuming he’s white). If your face is too feminine and your not going for the goth emo scene, go with a more metal or rap look - long hair or very short or shaved. Don’t do something too pretty in the middle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 11:45 PM |
| 8 | Women don’t like men that look YOUNGER than themSame. There are some wonderfully beautiful women living in rural areas that haven’t ventured out too much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t like men that look YOUNGER than themIt depends. I would say they want a man to look more mature and masculine - until she’s 35-40 and undeniably can’t pass for under 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to not acknowledge the sheer amount of power they hold over straight men?Missed the party | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 11:33 PM |
| – | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessSmart take. It’s hard when they flirt with you like they just don’t care, but to play you have to be damn certain you know when they are still attracted and they change their mind about attraction. If you do find yourself in a party situation, document every communication. A woman’s change in attraction is something I don’t quite understand. If I am attracted to a woman in body and mind, that attraction doesn’t go away after a week or so. It would take a nasty personality or bad encounter to dou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 10:18 PM |
| – | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessI’m hoping a woman will chime in with what she overtly does to indicate attraction and interest. No offense bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 10:09 PM |
| – | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessThat’s what I thought before and I’ve had all that happen before, but I’ve also followed up with women who’ve done that for not to have misjudged. Maybe I only had the moment and since I waited a week or two to decide that those were safe signs of attraction she closed that window of opportunity and then was no longer interested. I don’t think windows close for Chad and I know I’m not a Chad but I have had a decent amount of success but never with the women I was most interested in lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessWhat would you consider a typical plainly obvious indicator? Would it be overly obvious like touching? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessI think most average men realize that it takes hard work to keep a relationship going, and most relationships don’t last. Therefore, the goal is to rebound as quick as possible and find your next best match. The problem is, for a lot of men it takes a while for them to rebound. Women on the other hand can find a guy the next day or maybe 90 days before she breaks up with the current one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 10:35 PM |
| 4 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessThank you for the more accurate breakdown. Now I think I will actually read the study instead of taking OP’s word for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessHe's good looking and has the natural Chad traits, but he's also very famous. I doubt he would have the stalker in the bushes women thing going on if he were not rich and famous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessI consider myself more in the middle which makes life a lot more confusing. Sometimes in the right circumstances women have made it known they were staying over and that something was going down (if we're to the Netflix and chill level of comfort) and other times I've been invited over but then IOIs became confusing and escalation of IOIs did not seem to work. So from my perspective there are still plenty of IOIs from women are not obvious to me (too ambiguous to gamble) or are not IOIs at all. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 10:39 AM |
| 8 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessIs this black pill day? So to be blunt and over simplify this, you believe that no females are subtle? If you’re a male and a girl isn’t making it painfully obvious to you that she wants to sleep with you, then you must not be attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 03:46 AM |
| – | Masculinity is not toxic, the lack of masculinity is.I don’t have time to dive deep but it seems to me that the root of masculinity that leads to toxicity is the culture of masculinity. It’s like a perpetuating cycle of bad ideas and faulty conceptualizing to the self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/21 10:26 AM |
| – | Masculinity is not toxic, the lack of masculinity is.Toxic masculinity is when a male’s beliefs about what it means to be masculine leads to maladaptive behavior. Examples could include believing that you can never be shown up or admit you’re wrong, or keep your female partner from working because you are afraid she will make more money. It has nothing to do with casual male traits or cis behavior like being competitive in work (good natured ) or making comments to your friends about women you find hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/21 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.Thank you for taking the time to explain the dynamics that arise when a man knows his smv worth (good, average or bad). I have no idea why people here conflate self-defense against emotional manipulation with building high walls and hiding “the real you”. Some even claim our defenses against manipulation is actually manipulation. I was the same way in my teens and early 20s. I shapeshifted into whatever form I thought a girl wanted and thought that bending over backwards and doing all the heavy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.You edited your post to add that in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 12:15 PM |
| 6 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.If she settles you are much more likely to lose her or spend your life being her comfort servant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 05:11 AM |
| 7 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.Nice straw man. The people talking about the 80/20 theory are not taking about getting Stacey to date them. They are talking about guys who are 5-6 settling and dating down. I don’t really care either way but I will call out inaccurate accusations when I see them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 05:10 AM |
| – | Female submission. What is it? How is it different from an equal partnership? Can you provide real-world examples of it? Do you want it?I suspect its something else. But even asking gets a downvote. I honestly believe that nagging increases with and is preceded by a loss of attraction but not because the man isn't doing things. It's just loss of attraction because he was someone she settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 10:44 AM |
| – | Female submission. What is it? How is it different from an equal partnership? Can you provide real-world examples of it? Do you want it?So what do women feel they have to nag about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 03:37 AM |
| – | Female submission. What is it? How is it different from an equal partnership? Can you provide real-world examples of it? Do you want it?To me submissive does not mean lower than. I think many of us use it to offset what we see as a movement that demands that women sweet themselves and become the one “wearing the pants”. To me submissive means having high agreeableness and being very easy going and not offended by anything you say that isn’t validation. Someone that is rock solid strong inside and sweet feminine charm on the outside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 03:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV. The Bar for men is not set low for relationships or sex, despite what women tell you.I agree. I see a lot of men young in a little bit older but apparently have no clue how to dress themselves. Not many of them are natural chads , but they can upgrade their results by learning to dress and practicing some basic grooming habits. I am going to the gym. It’s hard to dress up a gut lol. Some taller guys over 6 feet tall can get away with the gut but not many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/21 10:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV. The Bar for men is not set low for relationships or sex, despite what women tell you.Some people confuse or purposely conflate ugly with masculine rough looking dudes. Jay z and Vin Diesel are masculine looking guys with style and charisma but no one is calling them beautiful. At least one woman I know makes a distinction between ‘beautiful’ and handsome. One time seeing a young Bieber hipster looking guy cross the street she said “gay guys are always beautiful”. She had no way of knowing this person’s orientation but she assumed he was gay. On the other hand, she’s used the wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/21 09:50 AM |
| 25 | CMV. The Bar for men is not set low for relationships or sex, despite what women tell you.Efforful men spend at least 6 months or years working out to build the kind of physique they can proud of if they go to a club. Then they may spend some time every couple of months picking the right attire. Some men wax and spend some effort on skin care and beard shaping and frequent barber visits if they have high maintenance mid length hair. The guys who spend no prior time looks maxing aren’t getting anywhere at the club and won’t go back to the club. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/21 03:33 AM |
| 5 | CMV. The Bar for men is not set low for relationships or sex, despite what women tell you.I agree with this. Many average men stumble at those first few trials because winning her over with a show or display is all they got. Chad and Tyrone just show up to the party and stare at a woman and that’s it. So there is probably an inverse relationship between natural attractiveness and the amount attention getting work a man must do. The average guys who won women who are looks matched or above did it with a lot of appeasement effort and must continue that appeasement for as long as they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/21 03:27 AM |
| 1 | FDS in mainstream media (The Guardian article)Fair enough. But why all the effort on going straight to husband material? My approach for now is have fun until you’ve spent enough time together to know you jive and mesh and work together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/21 03:15 AM |
| 2 | Dating sucks because single people are like real estate - the best ones taken off the market quicklyAgain I ask. What happened to casual dating? Why do most posts here revolve around a LTR as the holy grail? I mean it is nice for those that can maintain it and enjoy it, but there is so much more to life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 02:46 AM |
| 10 | FDS in mainstream media (The Guardian article)Women. Just be kind, fun and agreeable. A little extra weight is fine and average traits are fine. Just look like someone who works on themselves and doesn’t complain all the time. Don’t be that wet blanket person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/21 09:50 PM |
| 14 | FDS in mainstream media (The Guardian article)What Campbell did was smart and I think her strategy is a good one if a woman wants to take a business approach to dating to find a husband. Does FDS really advise women not to split the bill and only do dinner dates? Unless I know we both like the same food and we’re going as “foodies” I think dinner dates are not the most exciting and generally can tank chemistry if the dinner experience goes wrong. Instead, go out for drinks, sit at the bar and order snacks if you’re hungry. Otherwise, plan s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/21 09:46 PM |
| 8 | Is attraction loss in a relationship alwsys inevitable?This sounds healthy, and fun and realistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/21 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Is attraction loss in a relationship alwsys inevitable?I would not claim so with the right technical match of experiences and looks matching. I suspect that imbalances in status, confidence, and looks in a pairing creates the conditions for attraction loss or depreciation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/21 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Empaths and narcissists tend to pair up, which is why people think women like bad boys and actual nice guys get treated badlyYesh but machismo doesn’t work if you don’t have some kind of real status vis a vis money or clout or something. Not to be classist but there are plenty of penniless bums and lower class types who think they are gods gift to women but get shut down over and over and over. Perhaps there was a time when they could impress but despite their age they never matured past their teen mentalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Empaths and narcissists tend to pair up, which is why people think women like bad boys and actual nice guys get treated badlyIf they are good at dealing they probably have bling and a nice car and flash around cash. Lower class but attractive women lap that up in gulps probably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Empaths and narcissists tend to pair up, which is why people think women like bad boys and actual nice guys get treated badlyI wish I had found this years ago. I’m making this my guiding principle now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Empaths and narcissists tend to pair up, which is why people think women like bad boys and actual nice guys get treated badlyThis seems like a viable starter theory. We can assume that all other couples that don’t fit this pairing are probably more or less stable until something drastic happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 11:53 PM |
| – | Women would prefer for men to make SUB-OPTIMAL dating choices that ONLY benefits them but RARELY do the same for menI’m not fully red, more purple, but I used to visit TRP and lying about intentions was never advised. They suggested being quite and not making promises if you didn’t want a LTR, but never lying about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 05:03 AM |
| – | Women would prefer for men to make SUB-OPTIMAL dating choices that ONLY benefits them but RARELY do the same for menI never lied; just never made promises and never decided against anything. What happened to casual dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 01:46 AM |
| – | Women would prefer for men to make SUB-OPTIMAL dating choices that ONLY benefits them but RARELY do the same for menI made no promises in the past 2-3 years and still had some that were down for the 1st or second date. They were usually suboptimal for me and no offense, I suspect they knew I could have more options, but there was no intention to string anyone along. That part of they felt it was created in their own heads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 10:38 PM |
| 2 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?Seriously? If he’s not entitled to her fidelity then women like her shouldn’t be entitled to commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 04:34 AM |
| 1 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?Same. The closest I get is crime shows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Dunking on Legal Age Gaps Really Needs to DieMore power to you two but beware of the evil glare you will get from some older women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 01:12 AM |
| 4 | Dunking on Legal Age Gaps Really Needs to DieI agree. I think past 20 or 21 the age differences of 10 or more years should not matter for casual dating or maybe more assuming there is mutual attraction and respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 01:03 AM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitIf I know I’m on a date it’s easy. What’s more murky is when you start out casual as friends or through some other way of meeting besides OLD. Then when you start doing things together when can things turn to more than friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 11:02 PM |
| 13 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?Haha friend. Okay. But it takes a little red and blue mixed together to make purple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 10:34 PM |
| 6 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?I always liked adventures or sci-fi with true love connections. I never liked the love triangle trope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 09:09 PM |
| 13 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?But who is the primary audience of Tiger King? No male friends or work associates I know talked about it but a lot of female friends went on and on about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 08:49 PM |
| 121 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?Remember gentlemen, it’s always the guy’s fault. Cooper must’ve done something bad like support the patriarchy via his career choice and work hours or neglected to shoulder more of her emotional labor. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitThanks brother for taking time to respond. I think it’s back to Kino basics for me. Start with proximity, and then proceed to light Kino and then slowly escalate and pull back or push forward as needed. I’ve been punishing myself for about three years for a cringe moment when I completely misread signals. If I had chosen a better setting and vibe, and followed the guidelines for escalation. The escalation has to progress very smoothly and slowly in the right environment. That’s why OLD dates wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?I noticed probably a super clever comment, but you can you break this down for me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 08:14 PM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitWhat do you recognize as your tell signs? I’m just curious what signals women give off they think men actually recognize. After reading a lot of purple pill mill comments here it seems that a lot of the signs or not it’s obvious to men as women think. On the not so frequent occasion that I meet up with someone I met through OLD, we both know why we are there and I don’t hesitate as much — it’s only an issue with me if I meet someone at work or through friends and I’m trying to tell if a few flir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 09:22 PM |
| 3 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitNot the most informative answer but thanks for your input. How do you communicate that? How does a male know or can safely assume that options are open - or know the difference between someone having fun with us and vibing that could lead to casual? Men often get criticized and labeled as being incel for assuming more when she’s just having fun. Escalate at the wrong time and you’re a creep and add to the metoo statistic; don’t escalate fast enough and she writes you off as not confident or some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitIf they have good experience and learned from past experience and they think the girl is relationship material, and they want an ltr, they will wait. But if guy is just not looking for investment, then probably not. Why not vet all guys first? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:48 PM |
| 2 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitBut why not make all men wait? How can you know of a man is relationship material after 1 date and a few conversations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:37 PM |
| 2 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitBut how does she know he is relationship material after a few conversations and 1-2 dates? Why not make all men wait at least 3 dates then accept whatever happens? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:36 PM |
| 3 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitWhat about those of us in the middle or who don’t have the dark triad mindset to leverage situations in their favor? Sometimes it seems more confusing to be in the middle or transition zone on the sex capable logistic s-curve. If you’re top af life is simpler. Women are there anytime you want; you just do the basics to not duck it up. If you’re at the bottom of the s-curve and can accept it, you grind away at your pursuits and maybe make a lot of money and find fulfillment elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?How do you let a male friend know that you are open to dating or down for sex one time? What kinds of things do you say or do to let a man know you’re open? (And why do you close the door so fast if he doesn’t pick up the subliminal indicators the first time?) I’m one of those guys that heard way too many MeToo stories and am now a lot more cautious about transitioning into full flirting with light touching and definitely cautious about escalating. I know some women will make the moves for you y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Men can’t help losing hair. It’s not something we just let go like getting fat lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 03:40 AM |
| 6 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?This. I’ll add too that many overly aggressive controlling or abusing types start out very gregarious and charming. They may even love bomb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 03:05 AM |
| 0 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Women are led by feelings and many men are led by a sense of duty? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Don’t waste your time. That said I feel like I made a mistake with a couple of women the past year or two who seemed to be making me wait. They were sweet and touchy and spent the night but I couldn’t seal the deal so to speak. So I let them drift and then kind of regretted it. If the girl is just like that and she’s not out clubbing or going on Bumble dates, give her a shot for a couple of months. Unless she’s a virgin waiting for marriage or shouldn’t take months on end. If you know right away… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 02:56 AM |
| 3 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?I was thinking of a different kind of switching off. I understand that after you’ve dated a while or after a relationship is running its course, that there may be a history of issues that lead to the demise of the relationship. She’s never really yours; it’s just your turn is something that I have internalized , So that I can manage my expectations and know that the end may come or will come some day. I am referring to the situation where you may have become friends with someone or you meet some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:31 AM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Anyone who thinks being taller makes you automatically a better protector needs to watch the Jake Paul and Floyd Mayweather fight. Or any old Mike Tyson fight for that matter. Mike Tyson was usually shorter than the other heavy weights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 10:00 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?This. She thinks being an aggressive jerk is a sign of strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 09:40 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Your explanation explains why some jerks think that approach will work with everyone lol I’m sure redpillers know this and will tell you to escalate and push pull the boundary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 09:36 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?The middle ground for me is casual dating. What’s wrong with that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 09:24 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?But why not tell us when you hit that wall? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 09:19 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Wow. I came here to ask the same thing. I wonder if maybe it’s because we’re good enough to be a tide-me-over, but not high value enough to always command attraction 24/7. I find it hard to believe that Mr. Gray, the Hemsworth brothers or Idris Elba season if ever have that problem with oscillator attraction. That is the red pill part of me that makes old blue me purple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 09:03 PM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?I’m glad you asked. I suppose one of the reasons we “theorize” is because we seldom get a straight or genuine answer from women. Why do some women only want to make last minute plans- and ditch if you can’t do what they thought up that same day? So at least two different women are all excited to get a message and make plans - if one day ahead. But if I suggest making plans a few days something comes up. And then I text a day or so before plans and don’t get a response. I realize I made the mista… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 08:37 PM |
| 6 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?This | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/21 08:41 PM |
| 1 | New research: College women value physical attractiveness in their sexual partners just as much as men do.This is why now my assumption is that both males and females and non-binaries all value looks equally. I think regardless of whether a guy is blue pill or red pill, they all at some level know this. What makes a guy bitter is when women keep telling him it’s not true and he takes it all too seriously. Work on yourself, know your value and increase your value and don’t be a doormat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doI wholeheartedly agree with this. Sometimes it may sound like I don’t, but that’s just because I’m a pragmatist who likes to call call it like I see it. However, I think many men here do in fact weight in a woman’s personality. Many man appreciate it when a woman is easy-going, agreeable, inwardly confident and at ease with her self. I do in fact admire a woman a lot more when she does things to overcome obstacles instead of complaining and being a wet blanket about things that are getting in he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doHow many hours a week do you think the above average men spend in the gym? How much time do you think they spend planning their diet in order to look muscular with low body fat %? You should go check out the brogress and lean gains subs for an idea. I can tell you right now that it’s at least 15 hours a week and that’s not counting the time and money above average men spend on fashionable clothes and their cars which guys do get judged for more than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doCache me ousside? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doMale age can also increase mutation risk, but the risk for pregnancy and the health of the child is much more determined by the mothers age. Many utopia seekers seem to forget that actual biology exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:50 PM |
| 8 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doHow are women more flexible with their looks requirements? Most women have a checklist of features like height or niche appearance types that restricts what they find attractive. Men do not have a height requirement with women, but we do have a a basic weight threshold. Just don’t enter obesity. Most men I know and that’s easily several hundred men in my sample,would have a long-term relationship with a woman was average in appearance but not overly overweight, and who had an agreeable easy-goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:46 PM |
| 0 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doThis. The women I know do more to cut down or criticize other women for what they wear or how they present themselves than any man I ever knew except one bpd male family member. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:30 AM |
| 13 | Women would be better people if they had to compete in dating like men doI came here to say this but I think they’re not competing for average and below. Women only compete for above average men while men will compete for average looking women all day long or even below average women with bad personalities and income but average looks who is dtf. A competition worthy man has to be a few notches above average in at least 1 of the following three areas: social status, financial status or resource capacity, or genetic resources (wanted genes like above average height, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:23 AM |
| – | Q4W : Woman, If you were a 5’5 average build male with an extremely average face, how would you go along finding a girlfriend/wife, especially if you were already struggling? What would your dating strategy be?It depends on your lifestyle. I’m working on a cut and I currently want to lose about 4 to 5 pounds or better overall definition and low body fat percentage. I track my calories in with the Fitbit app and the Fitbit app captures my steps and aerobic activity. I currently eat at a deficit of 200 to 400 cal per day. When I reach my goalI will use it to track to stay at maintenance making exceptions for cheat days. But most likely, anytime I have a cheat day, I’ll probably hit the weights or get on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 08:23 PM |
| – | Q4W : Woman, If you were a 5’5 average build male with an extremely average face, how would you go along finding a girlfriend/wife, especially if you were already struggling? What would your dating strategy be?Six months to a year of serious diet and exercise is enough for most women. By the way, most men need to do that too if they want to be in the game. Honestly I’d say men probably need to spend longer on diet and exercise than women these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 11:43 AM |
| 1 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingMy bad. Carry on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:16 PM |
| 1 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingNSA check into this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 08:16 PM |
| 1 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingThis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 08:15 PM |
| 5 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingMales who don’t want to play the new game and don’t want to be a comfort and support partner, won’t riot or anything sensational like that. I don’t know where the OP got that — it seems like in insinuated strawman, but we already know that assertive aggressive actions that displease most women and others they support are inherently not part of the beta people pleaser nature. Instead, more of these men, let’s call them beaters, we’ll just peace out. They will just go there on way as MGTOW 2.0 has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 08:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedI don’t really like myself for it and not proud. It’s just my own self-reflection. I actually value compatibility and agreeableness over looks now but I still have a threshold for looks - which is mostly just a medically healthy weight and good style. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Men need to take a woman's income into consideration because when there's a big income gap, the woman will most likely see you as a markSame. I don’t keep how much a woman makes on a checklist. I only care about education when the subject she studied is intriguing - or when it helps with compatible interests and shared experiences. I also would have no problem being a stay at home dad so long as other family members in her family didn’t put me down or shame me for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 09:52 AM |
| 2 | Men need to take a woman's income into consideration because when there's a big income gap, the woman will most likely see you as a markAre you in the US? I wish i knew more women like you in the US. I have unfortunately I was judged on net worth a few times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 02:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedTruth. It feels good to flex even if she's just playing you for company. Being in public with a very stylish smokeshow woman made me feel glowing proud which in retrospect seems shallow and empty. On the other hand, the one that was very adoring of me but more homely felt very comfortable and that's something to be missed too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 03:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedGuilty as charged here. I wonder if we allow ourselves too many choices to try and juggle- yet none of them what we think we want on the HB scale - leaves us a little mad in the hat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Men are overly criticized in society compared to womenI really have no desire to mess with a woman like that, but I find it very hard to ignore all the double standards. That’s the only reason I comment here. Double standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Men are overly criticized in society compared to womenThat is indeed a long list. However, it seems to me though that men who use those words against women are shamed to oblivion. No one shames a woman for calling a guy an incel, a neck beard, littledick, or creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Men are overly criticized in society compared to womenContext | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Men are overly criticized in society compared to womenI see that expression all the time on Facebook groups especially the Star Trek shitposting group. Imagine going on that same group and using the expression “big tits energy” to describe a cis female character LOL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Men are overly criticized in society compared to womenNone of those are as mainstream accepted or as widely used for shaming as being called a neck beard or an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Men are overly criticized in society compared to womenRemindMe! 1 day I’m popping some popcorn and brewing up a response LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 08:44 PM |
| 2 | The average woman is more attractive than the average man, but NOT because she’s actually more attractiveI will add some nuance here. I think the key word and timeframe is woman and young adulthood. I suspect that average teen girls that may not be the most popular or interesting, may not fare as well as they will later when they start college. On the other side of young adulthood, middle age women who are average start a slope down decline in SMV. If the middle age woman takes care of herself, doesn’t smoke and stays at a medically ideal weight, she may do fine but not as well as she did when she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem that men appreciate/respect a muscular or fit man more than women ?Thanks! The Blackpill guys here need to know that their will be better if they just keep grinding and working on self-improvement. I started getting more serious about my body and threads around early 2018 and kick started it with an extreme cut to get lean - keto+IF+cardio+body weight exercises. That’s the only reason I was able to see some traction with women after only about six months. I started seriously and consistently lifting after the cut. I’ve been going through cycles of bulking and c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 11:09 PM |
| 5 | Why does it seem that men appreciate/respect a muscular or fit man more than women ?So many of us are here saying this and I’m glad. I’m glad men respect hard work and dedication. I got a lot less direct (almost none) at me bad attitude from other men once I started showing gains - random glances from women. The key to success though is learning how to recognize and leverage positive attention. I still have impostor syndrome too much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Why does it seem that men appreciate/respect a muscular or fit man more than women ?This and congrats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Why does it seem that men appreciate/respect a muscular or fit man more than women ?DYEL Bro? Lol. Seriously, if you’ve ever lifted or did something that requires physical fitness you’ll know just how much effort and self discipline it takes for most people to achieve a fit muscular look. Women can look desirable just by being of average fitness and not being obese if she’s relatively young (some women keep shape a long time) and not sagging. Men have to either be muscular, or rockstar lean; or maybe a little bit dad bod but only if they are taller than average. Go read the Bro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:56 AM |
| 2 | 84% of working women told ForbesWoman that staying home to raise children is a financial luxury they aspire to...more than 1 in 3 resent their partner for not earning enough to make that dream a reality.This kind of thing matters and this topic should be discussed here or somewhere. Many, not all, of the females in graduate school who have partners or boyfriends, don’t have to experience the financial stressors that male graduate students face. The most females, unless they are single mothers, don’t worry about picking a career path that is possible or attractive to a potential mate. Women more so than men get to pick careers that satisfy them emotionally and fulfill their dreams. Men are under… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedI think you’re confused about what incel actually means. If I had to write a paper and operationally define the term I would go with the literal origin which is ‘involuntarily celibate’. Whatever informal use came later is just a byproduct; a cultural idiom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 11:19 PM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedI know the definition of incel. Do you? So if someone was born with unfortunate facial features or maybe even a slight deformity, or unusually short or tall stature, and that resulted in an inability to find a sexual partner by 25, is it still fair to used the term “incel” as an insult for them? What about people with mental health issues which prevent them from entering the sexual marketplace? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedWe really need to stop using ‘incel’ as an insult. I know it’s fun for some to weaponize that term and what it means and blame all actual incels for the actions of less than the actual less than .10% that did something horrendous. Throwing incel around as an insult probably does more harm by ostracizing and radicalizing others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Assuming you are an attractive guy, what are places to look for long lasting relationships?Sometimes I don't know what I am; perhaps stuck in the middle because its feast or famine these days. I'm not 'Chad' who gets tons of high value matches willing to do anything to please him, but I get matches and dates when I want them. I started getting good matches on CMB but then they fade out after a couple of days of messaging. I know my message game has probably gone to crap but at the time I was on the fence and didn't really care that much. With all of that said, I have only found 2 situ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?I agree. I didn't know the name but after a google search I agree that he looks like any other dude that you would see at work. He's not awkwardly odd looking or unfortunate looking, but he's also not who I would suspect is slaying new coochie every weekend. Ed is the basic everyman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?Only in the US LOL. Although that pick of Seth is probably at his heaviest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 03:10 AM |
| 4 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?Men rate linearly and women seem to rate on a logistic curve | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:47 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?This | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?Google this “University graduate students neuroscience” or search for the string below (I don’t want to direct link to that page because disrespect lol) urmc.rochester.edu/education/graduate/phd/neurosciences/faculty-students/student-perspectives.aspx Not very many males, especially US males, in the program or grad schools anymore, but there are a few males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?It’s an aggregate average considering all factors. If he had a less pleasant face and no hair on his head he would be below average. Females in the US are just as overweight and there are more obese women than men. Average is what you don’t notice. Most people only notice the ones outside of the normal curve — the better looking people and those that catch your attention because they are below average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?I was in the gym Thursday and on this day I was one of two dudes vs 4 females. Four of those girls were already toned and slender. They ran (not walked) on the treadmills and followed up their cardio with some dumbbell and kettle bell light weight CrossFit lifts. They knew what they were doing because they did their homework and then put in the actual physical work. The excuse that she’s just skinny or doesn’t have to try is rubbish. Most girls can do this if the pit in the work and so can men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Can you post examples of photos of an average guy?This may seem mean but I did a random Google search for “university graduate students neuroscience” and picked the second choice. Scroll to the bottom and you will see several male grad students who all appear about average looks to me. Not ugly but not Chad or movie star romantic lead either. https://www.neuroscience.pitt.edu/people/graduate-students | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Are men upset that having money is considered an attractive feature?RemindMe! 2 days | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Are men upset that having money is considered an attractive feature?The 'stressed about being able to survive' argument is exaggerated. More likely there is a social factor where women become ashamed of their man when he's average and doesn't have a cool sounding job and isn't buying the house, the car, etc. But is he contributing and understanding and make efforts? That's how we men should be judged, but it's more about 'what are we doing for her' and how do we elevate her social capital. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Are men upset that having money is considered an attractive feature?Perhaps women could turn a page in history and be the ones who are primarily setting up the nest and nest egg. With most married het couples I know, the husband or BF was the one who sacrificed to get the house or sacrificed their career path to do something that is very secure (accountant, IT, attorney) while the female was allowed to be more free to chase her dreams in a PhD program or take up writing as a "freelancer". Also, most females in grad programs have male partners with good jobs to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn't there be a shortage of men in the dating market?The fact that most men are not in the top 10-20% women consider the total package creates the real shortage. Other factors compound the attraction and partnering dilemma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Most people marry after they "hit the wall" and it's a very bad idea to marry when you're young and "in your prime"."Exactly, she wouldn’t be perfect and the relationship wouldn’t be perfect." Can you break this down for me some more? I'm not sure I follow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 11:46 PM |
| 6 | Most people marry after they "hit the wall" and it's a very bad idea to marry when you're young and "in your prime".Imagine being able to marry that girl you felt star crossed for and not feeling like you had to spend all adulthood looking for mates and playing the game? Except for hot 8-10 Chads driven to have variety, most average men would love to fall in love and marry early. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Most people marry after they "hit the wall" and it's a very bad idea to marry when you're young and "in your prime".Many men will tell you they were at their most attached and heartbroken over break ups as a teen. If they started dating early. Something powerful must have happened or maybe males pair bond hard but women slip out of that easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Most people marry after they "hit the wall" and it's a very bad idea to marry when you're young and "in your prime".Twerk consensus? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:05 AM |
| 3 | Most people marry after they "hit the wall" and it's a very bad idea to marry when you're young and "in your prime".That sounds reasonable to me. At work its weight gain I see as the main delineating factor between still eligible (even above 45) and not in the game. Only the very young 18-22 year old girls can wear extra weight and still have it seem to not sag and still look cute. There is this one woman I can't stop looking at who works in the legal dept and is definitely over 40 (dress style and fine lines tell). But her combined features of dark red hair, porcelain skin, pale eyes and Kate Moss facial str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:04 AM |
| 3 | Most people marry after they "hit the wall" and it's a very bad idea to marry when you're young and "in your prime".Yep I noticed it. It's probably explained by the tendency for trim good looking women over 35 being highly valued in relationships and already taken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 02:57 AM |
| 1 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)I agree and this effect is invisible to most women, except maybe those women who are very forward, transparent and cognizant of the fact that they are attracted to height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 10:45 AM |
| 0 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)Yep. Have my upvote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 02:36 AM |
| 5 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)This. I’m here to say this. I’m not 6’7 but I am guilty of not being aware of my potential and wasted a lot of opportunities because of it. I also made a cringe misinterpretation move that had me feeling creepy after - so after that I was afraid to assume too much and would not act on ladies flirting with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Found a piece of a condom in my plate's vaginaNext LOL | /r/askTRP | 08/05/21 02:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: In regards to the bottom 90% of people, women are the gatekeepers of both casual sex and relationshipsDid your great aunt embrace celibacy later in life or do you think she had options somehow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 12:16 PM |
| 7 | Women of this sub, would you be okay with your bf not finding you pretty but being attracted to your personality and character?Women who actually settle because the guy is a good guy, provides comfort and is a good provider - but not because she finds him very attractive physically. I think what most women do when they reach a certain age is retcon convince themselves in their head that they are actually attracted to him but the decision to be with him was more based on a shopping list of things that would make him a good father our provider for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Women of this sub, would you be okay with your bf not finding you pretty but being attracted to your personality and character?Same and won't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Women of this sub, would you be okay with your bf not finding you pretty but being attracted to your personality and character?Expect a lot of deflection and post hoc rationalizing. We know it's true that many women and men are with someone they don't find as attractive as they would want. I've had that but she was difficult and a very picky eater and sometimes a wet blanket. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 03:12 AM |
| 20 | Women of this sub, would you be okay with your bf not finding you pretty but being attracted to your personality and character?If we embrace honesty here, there are a lot of people in that situation and women often settle for men later that they would say the same thing about to the good provider guy they settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 03:05 AM |
| 1 | New York Times article discussing a new trend in marriages: "From Best Friends to Platonic Spouses"It’s gonna be ruff ruff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Study: Children of older fathers are less attractive. Maternal age has no effect on attractiveness.For CEOs and high power sales or business pros, that is true. But in newer growth fields like IT and Biotech and Engineering, there are likely more average or homelike looking men who only become more marriageable after they have proven they can provide. The 6’3 Chad in college can find any number of women to marry him before he proves his potential assuming he had a basic bachelors degree and shows up. Lower income chads, not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/21 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Do you think we overanalyze sex relations too much?Great response. The provider and protector myth without the looks or status is just traditionalist wish fulfillment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 12:45 PM |
| 5 | I’ve been a follower of the Red pill for a couple years but my experience with my GF does not align with a lot of the theory hereThe red pill isn’t meant to serve as a manual to describe all women. The red pill is a set of heuristics for a male dating strategy. It’s a toolset and nothing more. Many critics of TRP take some of the things terpers say here too literally. Interestingly, your second paragraph validates some trp concepts like how your relative SMV predicts her behavior towards you. She does sound like a valid unicorn, so I wouldn’t cut her loose anytime soon. I think she’s a keeper, unless she just doesn’t do i… | /r/askTRP | 28/04/21 08:58 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Why are men supposed to be responsible for both their own sexual response (getting hard), as well as their partner's (getting wet)If she complains about not being wet enough, and she doesn't have a medical issues it means she just doesn't get thr tingles from looking at you or making out with you. One possible exception is if sex is going on for more than an hour. If it happens before sex, take it as a warning or red flag that the relationship is on the ropes. I've never had it happened at the beginning of a relationship but when a LTR was failing it would happen some. 9.5/10 if she was into me, she was drowning in juices … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 11:34 PM |
| 6 | [Q4All]How often do you see ugly people of the opposite gender?If they are dirt poor and really are modern day hillbillies in the sticks, hills and hollers of Appalachia or the wilderness of Alaska, they probably thin. It's the 'sub-rural' growing pain in between suburbs and rural that are growing more overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 06:58 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All]How often do you see ugly people of the opposite gender?Refreshing honesty. I used to get the tired thing because of mild hay fever allergies but mask wearing during Covid made it much less noticeable lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 03:33 PM |
| 18 | [Q4All]How often do you see ugly people of the opposite gender?Conservative golf cart communities eventually tend toward the rotund. It's almost as if Wal-E is prophecy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 03:30 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]How often do you see ugly people of the opposite gender?About the same as you. For me its excess weight past 20% over bmi that weighs a females attraction level down. Most younger women have a regression to the mean norm pleasant face. I only see harsh looking faces in older women, and its usually when the face has become over-masculinzed due to falling estrogen and progesterone levels. Men's faces however, no matter the age, are allover the distribution, much like how male IQ has all kinds of outliers at both extremes. More men than women have unfor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.Which comments in particular? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Why is it more socially acceptable for women to want stereotypical men than vice versa?Dad bod was always just a little bit overweight. Fat Thor from Avengers End Game is about the absolute extreme of dad bod if not well over the dad bod build. Many men already like and accept women who are maybe 10-15% over medical doctor prescribed ideal BMI or body fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 12:27 PM |
| 13 | Why is it more socially acceptable for women to want stereotypical men than vice versa?Dad bod was defined by what happened to Gerard Butler after he stopped working out hours a day for the film “300” where he played Leonidus. All it means is a good looking guy who used to be in top percentile shape who lost definition in the abs lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 07:10 PM |
| 4 | Why is it more socially acceptable for women to want stereotypical men than vice versa?Prepare to be gaslit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Are a lot of mental health issue due to the way society associates worth with physical attractiveness?Attractiveness hire he’s are just one part. Social status, which is affected by other things like physical attractiveness and resources, but I’m primarily thinking charm and the ability to be a social butterfly, and access to financial capital, all contribute to mental health issues. I’m primarily referring to the west. The west may not appear to have an caste system but it does nurture a powerful social stratification caste system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 12:16 PM |
| 0 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?No harsh feelings beratna but you are kind of being stubborn here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?I literally feel dumber for having read your response above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?Lol. Did you read beyond the abstract??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?The Halo Effect is a real and well studied social psychology phenomenon. Trust us. There are a lot of resources out there on the Halo Effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?I am going to go out on a limb and say that overall attractiveness is negatively correlated with creepy or clingy behavior but unattractiveness is not the cause. Ove been on the other side now thanks to a woman who was very suffocating clingy after only 2-3 weeks of going out with me. I understand better what women feel now when a guy is too clingy even before a relationship exists. Someone would text me and she would ask if I was seeing anybody else. She told me several times that she was afrai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 02:58 AM |
| 6 | Just found condoms in my LTR purse. WE DON’T USE CONDOMS.I agree now. I didn't read the last bit after the second paragraph. Replied too soon. | /r/askTRP | 14/04/21 09:54 PM |
| 7 | Just found condoms in my LTR purse. WE DON’T USE CONDOMS.If the sex is good, why not fade back and slowly demote to plate. The OP shouldn’t have any major expectations at this point. If this really is an LTR and she’s not in constant contact with him through text or with him every night, then it’s not really an LTR and she’s probably hitting the bars or going out. If she’s not available and going out. | /r/askTRP | 14/04/21 09:18 PM |
| 1 | I (25M) switched my tinder preferences to 30-45 and WOWI’ve seen plenty of free faces in the 30 to 35 range. But I do see a little bit of what you see after the late 30s onward. I suspect that a lot of the more attractive and content women who are between 30 and 40 already taken and married and not on tinder. Deletions to a few more left over in the lower 30s. That and most quality women have moved to coffee meets bagel and bumble. Tinder is mostly a garbage app now. | /r/askTRP | 13/04/21 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Why asian parents dropped the biggest redpillsAbout 10 years ago a family friend showed me this future map of the former US online. The source of the map explained that Russia would work with China and other nations to disrupt and fracture the US into several polities that would be proxy controlled by Russia mostly and some by China. Have you ever heard of that conspiracy theory? | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/21 02:12 AM |
| 1 | As a man with low libido, my dating experience is way better than a normal man's.Lol bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 11:37 PM |
| 1 | As a man with low libido, my dating experience is way better than a normal man's.Flexing as many of my mid and lower leg muscles works to redirect an inopportune boner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 11:36 PM |
| 1 | As a man with low libido, my dating experience is way better than a normal man's.Does your d respond on command or in the situation? I'm not exactly sure if low libido is defined by a lack or willful thinking about sex and therefore motivation to seek it, or by slow physical arousal or both. I'm unfortunately the other way. I've even begun tenting just talking to someone looking at nothing but her eyes and enjoying the conversation and not even actively thinking about sex. That's definitely a problem and leads to great potential for embarrassing and misunderstood situations … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 11:33 PM |
| 3 | People in the manosphere don't understand status, attraction, af/bb because they socialize too littleI've mostly seen the Chad effect in real life at clubs. That's probably where most other men who are awake see it. I went to a club as friends with a girl I tried to date previously, and she brought her roommate and we met a guy there that paid my friend's way in. He was a cool guy but average looking yet dressed decently and was trim. Early on she got attention. A try hard guy about 5'7 or 5'8 walked up to her ' confidently' and started dancing in front of her and was inviting her to dance. She… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 11:50 AM |
| 1 | People in the manosphere don't understand status, attraction, af/bb because they socialize too littleI agree and many men would agree that one should be something you do. However, a lot of people still get caught up in passion and tingles and think that should define love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 08:31 AM |
| 2 | People in the manosphere don't understand status, attraction, af/bb because they socialize too littleMany men start the trp for that reason but then after some success they realize that working out and self improvement for themselves is enough. I'm seasoned now but have been looking back at some lost opportunities too much lately and hoping to step up my game again and level up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 08:19 AM |
| 4 | People in the manosphere don't understand status, attraction, af/bb because they socialize too littleBest comment here. This is my view of the RP heuristics that ring with truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 08:03 AM |
| 7 | Social circles/groups to find dates are not that reliable because most have already established members and don’t consistently invite newcomersNo groups mind when a decent looking rando woman shows up and starts chatting but groups do mind if a random male just shows up. I don’t think women understand that mixed groups are easier on inviting new females in then they are inviting new males in, unless that male is very high status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 07:21 AM |
| 9 | Social circles/groups to find dates are not that reliable because most have already established members and don’t consistently invite newcomersWomen can have lots of entourages or simply be invited to parties by men and women they know kind of like how dance clubs like to have lots of women around because it’s good for the scene. However, few of those types of women have had the type of ‘got your back’ I’d fight for or with you friend that many men have in young adulthood. That probably explains a lot about relationship problems. Women expect to be entertained and socializing while men expect the same kind of loyalty and devotion they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 07:02 AM |
| 11 | Social circles/groups to find dates are not that reliable because most have already established members and don’t consistently invite newcomersMany people, mostly males that I know, value quality and closeness more than quantity. Many women and men with strong social drives are fine talking with people they really don’t like or value as a close friend. I’ve known women who would even go out with other girls that they trash talk later while men would rather not be around people they don’t truly respect and like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 06:59 AM |
| 1 | My dad always says if a guy is single at 35+, there usually a reason, and it’s usually baggage. How true is this statement?100% agree. As long as the person is happy or truly content and accepting of their single life, we shouldn't pretend to understand or judge. Now if someone is involuntarily single and jaded or whining about it with "where are all the good men" (or good women) posts, then you have a red flag that points to something sus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 10:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Cat ladies and older male bachelors are often not who people thinkNow I'm responding to the second paragraph lol. You're so right about the internet and scene culture now. However, I feel like I still like I can find it on Reddit. Reddit and Discord are the only modern substitutes for all the chatrooms and forums of the 2000s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 09:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Cat ladies and older male bachelors are often not who people thinkThe actress who played Mulan in the 1990s is in the Mandalorian (Ming-Na Wen) and she's in her 50s or maybe 60 and she's smoking hot. Btw, one of the cat women I met was in her 30s and had 3 cats (that I saw) so she's getting close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 09:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Cat ladies and older male bachelors are often not who people thinkThis keeps it real. Most men who accept the red pill become more self aware and wake up to their true worth. Those that continue work on themselves to max out what they can, but know their limits. Blackpillers on the other hand get all depressed or nihilistic and overthink and often way undercut their potential for SMV worth. Neither group is delusional though about their worth. There is no fat acceptance, mental health acceptance or low status acceptance for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Cat ladies and older male bachelors are often not who people thinkThis is the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:03 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Cat ladies and older male bachelors are often not who people thinkI think your anti-stereotype is reifying the stereotype of Stacey. Also, the pretty party girls that escape the party girl life did so early and got a husband that they respected and who had resources. Some future cat women I know were not Stacies in their teens and 20s but were comely enough in their 20s to get attention as part of an 'alternative' culture scene. Think of the typical Avril Lavigne fan if the early 2000s and early emo crowd of the 2000s. Young girls then (my demographic of older… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?Thank you. I am putting more effort into mindfulness about what I am doing and what I am communicating. Wrong or not, I had previously mentioned to her that I wanted to slow things down and go slow, but it didn’t seem to get through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?Also, it wasn’t “I’m excited to be around you clingy”. I like attraction. She was literally saying things like “I’m still afraid that you are going to do something to hurt me” and make a sad face. It made me feel like she was emotionally unstable and that I was completely responsible for her feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 10:56 AM |
| 2 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?Well she wasn’t texting me either after a certain point. If she had, I would have responded to explain my perspective. I’m not proud that’s for sure, and I won’t handle things like that again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?I only ghosted recently because she got extremely attached and clingy and demanding after only knowing me 2-3 weeks and that many dates. I hadn't ready for more after that little time. I tried not to ghost but fade back, but every time I texted after a period of days or a week she would get real needy and start guilt tripping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.How many hours would you say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.What was the shortest amount of social gathering time it took for a man to get your attention and help the environment to get you aroused? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.And got downvoted lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.I still believe that a base level of attractiveness gets you in the door to play. A lot of men here probably feel like that part is being severely downplayed. I can see your points though because although it pains me to admit it, a man’s ability to be social, have social proof, and be there at the right time matters. The man that has the social endurance enough to start at a brunch party and follow the same gang all day until a bar scene at night will earn the booty. But for an introvert (not si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.The OP provided evidence of the dual mating strategy but in terms expressed by women that women understand. When men boil and distill this thought process down to a simpler "good enough" heuristic, they disbelieve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.I'm with you bro. Maybe a coffee date for the first OLD meeting but after that its only a social outing with alcohol, a night party or club. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.I believe you and have been there before not because I am a minority in the US, but because I'm not the most naturally charismatic or talkative person. It's something I have to work at and I used to sound cheesey all the time. The OP touched a nerve but I still do not buy there argument that the casual sex determinant was all circumstances of environment. FWIW, in my grad school it was the most charismatic and charming guys were always the ones talked to or consulted with for plans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 01:01 AM |
| 20 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.Great story bro. I think a lot of the women here who minimize the men's bad experiences here don't really want to understand how much we have already done and tried and how much effort and thought we put into trying to move ahead with women. Replace all the mentions of 'circumstances' and 'fun environment' with sexy handsome guy and you have complete confirmation of the dual mating strategy. I've been both guys but it takes a lot of emotional energy to be the fun guy at a party or club. But I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.Sounds like an ex post facto rationalization and defense of the dual mating strategy. She would 9/10 be quick to sleep with the same guys in other circumstances and she would 9/10 not sleep with the comfort beta bucks guy she chose for comfort and future nest building. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 12:21 AM |
| 3 | if you shame women (not men) with high body counts, you shouldn't complain about 80% of women sleeping with the 20% of men.I can agree with this. Higher smv men should have standards and not break them. But I think sometimes there are Chad-lites who for various reasons had trouble starting out due to trauma, general anxiety, social awkwardness, class and culture, whatever, and didn’t know their value in SMV terms and were happy for anything when a lower smv woman made it easy for him. Then those lower smv women think that awkward uncalibrated Chad-lite were “average”. I’m fairly sure now that I am guilty of what I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 01:47 PM |
| 5 | if you shame women (not men) with high body counts, you shouldn't complain about 80% of women sleeping with the 20% of men.Are you sure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 01:44 PM |
| 2 | if you shame women (not men) with high body counts, you shouldn't complain about 80% of women sleeping with the 20% of men.There are some top-tier mental gymnastics on display here. RemindMe! 2 days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 01:37 PM |
| 2 | If you give her the best D she’s ever had, she will never leave youThey exist but they are usually not Stacies. The one I knew most recently was average in looks, was in decent shape and not fat, but dressed nice and a PhD student so smarter than most basic Stacies. | /r/askTRP | 05/04/21 07:05 AM |
| 15 | She's not yours, it's just ...This is the way. True abundance is resting easy that you could move on if the relationship dissolves. If you over-invested in all the usual ways and let yourself get overly comfortable being a boorish slob and let yourself go physically and mentally, you won’t be ready to move on. | /r/askTRP | 01/04/21 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Is it just me, or is a "top 20% male" simply a self-respecting, normal, healthy man with his life together?I reread your comment and I think you changed my mind. I failed on a couple of oneitises but when I was most active pre-Covid I was on the way to having more dates than I knew what to do with and I don’t see my looks as top tier, but I had been lifting a while and was dressing better. | /r/askTRP | 28/03/21 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Is it just me, or is a "top 20% male" simply a self-respecting, normal, healthy man with his life together?This is more the reality | /r/askTRP | 27/03/21 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Is it just me, or is a "top 20% male" simply a self-respecting, normal, healthy man with his life together?This will at least put you in the top 45%. Looks, social status and resources will let you dwell a while in the top 15-10%. | /r/askTRP | 27/03/21 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it just me, or is a "top 20% male" simply a self-respecting, normal, healthy man with his life together?No. The top 20% of men are fit, above 5’11 or 6’ and have good disposable income. Now most people can start lifting and doing cardio, but not everyone can grow and “get their shit together” and grow to be above 6’. Growing income or being born poor is also something that isn’t as easy to accomplish as getting fit. Now I took the red pill and accepted it and because of that i made peace with it, but it doesn’t change the facts. | /r/askTRP | 27/03/21 07:32 PM |
| 1 | "Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishismThis is the way. Again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 05:43 PM |
| 2 | "Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishismhttps://images.app.goo.gl/2NVr7z7mHp81dzDd8 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 05:39 PM |
| 3 | "Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishismThis is the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 05:19 PM |
| 1 | "Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishismHas anyone here been in a US Target store lately and seen the manikins? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 05:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Trying to improve your personality is even harder, more pointless than trying to improve your looksHow did you find the right CBT? I’m interested and think I need laces too much importance on external validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 12:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Trying to improve your personality is even harder, more pointless than trying to improve your looksOnce you get any attention you can build upon it and start leveling up. I am an introvert but was able to still be interesting to women I was interested in. I improved looks enough to have them agree to be with me then learned enough frame control, some PUA game basics and Dale Carnegie bs to keep them talking. I think you dichotomized too much with this post. I agree to a certain extent. I’ve had a harder time transferring personality growth to all audiences men alike than I have with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Interesting at FDS there’s a trending post about a woman having to give her boyfriend the card to pay so that he wouldn’t feel insecure.I never directed it at myself but a few months ago my date offered to pay from the start because I had paid for something else recently and when she handed her card to the server, who was the older family business owner of the joint, looked at her and then looked at me with this puzzled look. He then sort of didn't acknowledge me the last 5-10 minutes we were there That said, I do feel guilty sometimes. But my with PhD student date, I paid since I had more income, but I wish she would have offer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Men who don’t value friendships with women also don’t value relationships. They just want sex.A relationship requires both attraction/sexual chemistry and interest in the person because you value you them as interesting and you feel connected. I’ve had times where we had one or the other. I had a wonderful attraction situation with someone about a year ago, but it felt like there were times when I got on her nerves - and I thought she was too negative. The I’ve had situations where it was clear I liked the girl’s company, and realized I valued the friendship more and was less physically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?🤦♂️ I read it that way in instant processing but then started over analyzing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?Thanks for the boost. I'm not sure what 'v modern' is though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 12:37 AM |
| 1 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"After I wrote this I realized that I've been 1, but mostly a 2 or 2.5 and a few times I've been 3 at the entry Chad-lite level because first night/meeting action did happen. It's all proportional to my perception of her attractiveness and maybe that's where the rule of dgaf rings true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 12:36 AM |
| 2 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"While true for some men, men with options don't settle unless she really makes them feel like a king. Men will see a plain Jane with Rose tinted lenses if she's really generous in bed, had good vibe energy, and dotes on him. A lot of men will talk about hot women, but those that are calibrated will know if they are on her smv level. If they aren't, it's just game talk that they don't take seriously. Men tend to mesh attractiveness into a continuum. The only behavior of a man that changes based o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 12:14 AM |
| 7 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"It's the denial, solipsism and the straight up lying and hypocrisy that gets on my nerves. Men just don't get to do that without being called a pig or ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 10:43 PM |
| 2 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"Most men here would say that those men offered comfort, resources or both and their wife more or less 'settled'. It is consistent with the dual mating strategy. The guy the woman settles for is not often the random guy she would fawn over at a party and PDA allover him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 10:41 PM |
| 7 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"Preselection sometimes works magic and it can be a force multiplier for average and Chad-lite guys who don't naturally have women waiting to be in his harem. I've experienced it and it turned women who were "maybe" about me into being willing to get down with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 10:17 PM |
| 1 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"I wouldn't commit down now and I don't because I have options and know that I'm comfortable being single and I'm okay with casual dating. Three years ago after a bad break up and some cringe bluepill episodes, I would have possibly committed down. It all depends on where you're at in your options. A man with some options that satisfy, that is he isn't embarrassed to be seen with them, will not commit down. A down and out man who is lonely and whose self esteem has plunged through the floor and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 10:13 PM |
| 2 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"The nerd like Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock Holmes, lol? I get it, and I'm just messing with you, but I legit know some women who all say they're "Sherlocked" and say they like nerdy guys, but come on, its Benedict Cumberbatch and regardless of what some people say about taste and that maybe he looks quirky, he's still more attractive than 75-85% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 10:07 PM |
| 4 | RedPillers, what would you say was your "RedPill moment?"I've been the "tide-me-over" guy before about 4 times or so and didn't find out until I was hooked (BP style). I never found it satisfying and was never comfortable playing the side piece lol. It always made me feel like a small time Himbo. I would be okay with a perfectly chill FWB situation assuming neither of us has someone else calling us their boyfriend or girlfriend. That's different. I don't support cheating at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?I'm seeing a move in my future after I document and prevail with a big machine learning and data analysis project I'm working on. My small team is very friendly and nice but there's not much of a modern data culture there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?I realize it has been a while but I stressed a little over this and thought adding context would help. I was mainly thinking of one particular person who is a power player, and ladder climber who uses her over emoted hellos as a form of control. This person has used her charm to ingratiate herself to the upper echelon and receives two promotions in a year despite the fact that says promotions are against company policy. She is a ladder climber, and hence I think someone who will launch control a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 06:23 PM |
| 7 | [Q4W] If your own son turns out to be short, doesn’t make a lot of money, and has a small johnson, what are you going to tell him when it comes to dating?Now women are going to take note and only seek out men who are 6’3 or over. It’s time to update the rule of six lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | The Sexual Revolution Was a Complete FailureAnd that's the big irony here. Many men have decided that perhaps serial monogamy is not in their best interests and a lot of women here have confirmed that they no longer support "casual dating" saying that women don't get anything out of casual dating. So women no longer want open dating unless they are in control, i.e they have a commitment with a cuckold and then they get to sleep around or have a harem of cucks but commitment in some form is always a requirement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 05:51 AM |
| 2 | The Sexual Revolution Was a Complete FailureInteresting response. What other nations do you think are leaning nationalist now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 05:38 AM |
| 2 | If you "can't help who you're attracted to", then the opposite gender also can't help who they're attracted to either.I say it fairly because it worked for me. About 3 years ago I got super motivated and started working out doing body weight exercises at first, then weights later, I did mild cardio 5 days a week at the least and went Keto for about 2-3 months and did intermittent fasting. I lost 20-25 lbs (my overweight margin), bought better clothes. That alone was enough to put me solidly back in the game. For social calibration all I did was learn outcome independence and how not to be too dependent on valid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 10:47 AM |
| 1 | If you "can't help who you're attracted to", then the opposite gender also can't help who they're attracted to either.Notice I said obese and not just slightly overweight. I like thicc in the range of Ariel Winter 2018 or later years Gina Carano (more muscle fit) but more than that doesn't work for me. I've made great friends with some women with not so tapered mid sections but never once questioned becoming more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 03:28 AM |
| 1 | If you "can't help who you're attracted to", then the opposite gender also can't help who they're attracted to either.I can respect that and I have met very few women so ambitious in that many areas. Respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 01:07 AM |
| 5 | If you "can't help who you're attracted to", then the opposite gender also can't help who they're attracted to either.As a man I like this simple heuristic. A woman who also gives us a brain boner is a plus which takes an average woman and elevates her to very attractive. One last one. Don't be obese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Women are just as upset being friend-zoned as men are. I can attest to that from personal experience. And both sexes are right. If one person is in love and attracted sexually, the other person can't ask him or her to rewrite their feelings just so he or she could have a longer list of friends.I appreciate the honesty. But I was also as concerned about hurting her as a friend because I knew then that I was on the field and not looking to get serious. I enjoy talking so I could see enjoying something down the road but I couldn't make any promises and I was too busy to be a good enough boyfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/21 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Women are just as upset being friend-zoned as men are. I can attest to that from personal experience. And both sexes are right. If one person is in love and attracted sexually, the other person can't ask him or her to rewrite their feelings just so he or she could have a longer list of friends.What do you call it when you meet up with an old friend from HS and you and she go out, have a few drinks then kiss and spend the night, refraining from more than kissing, then you wake up the next day and decide that you really think this person is a cool person and prioritizing their friendship over dating and then suffering a falling out where you can’t be friends anymore? Lol. That’s what I did recently but I did it after one time going beyond the friend zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/21 10:40 PM |
| – | "Tinder will soon let you run a background check on a potential date" - Is this seen as good or bad from a dating perspective?When you meet someone IRL at a bar, concert or anywhere else do you instantly ask for their private info so you can run a background check before you go out with them? If so I’m out. As soon as Tinder announces this feature, I’m out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/21 03:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Unattractive men should not befriend women if they want sex, they should befriend ChadI know what you mean because I took the pill that was harder to accept. Bros still plugged in and girls holding out on whatever acceptance movement is trending don't internalize the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/21 04:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Unattractive men should not befriend women if they want sex, they should befriend ChadThis was me too to some extent but I was somewhat unconscious to it and not calibrated. My hard work was working on social calibration and awareness, developing more muscle definition but had a good base already, and focusing on fashion and some basic PUA and RP principles yo keep me from coming off as needy when I did more of the approach work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/21 02:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Unattractive men should not befriend women if they want sex, they should befriend ChadTo make this less disparaging I would substitute 'low smv' for "unattractive". There is a difference. Low smv speaks to the reality that there are external forces determining smv and makes it less personal and more about what you have to do to be marketable and raise your smv. Unattractive is just disparaging and demeaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/21 02:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Unattractive men should not befriend women if they want sex, they should befriend ChadI wish there was a way we could discuss what actions people could take to increase their romantic options without talking about them in a disparaging lookism lens. I also wish there was a way to convince everyone that has normal physical and mental functioning that working on oneself and being aware of reality (your own red pill whatever that is) in a non self-deprecating way can bring them results and more fulfillment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/21 02:45 PM |
| 1 | FUTURISTIC: Average men blatantly covering their shortcomings with sugar may become a new trend in traditional dating.Okay so maybe the second half of my statement was crass. I know that there is a historic gender wage gap. However, statistics on the subject including the li ked article below show that an opposite wage gap is growing among millenials and gen z. I have a graduate degree and prior to Covid was working on a doctoral degree. Women outnumbered men almost 2 to one in both grad programs. The only grad programs where that may not hold are probably materials sciences, computer sciences, and maybe busine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/21 12:01 AM |
| 1 | FUTURISTIC: Average men blatantly covering their shortcomings with sugar may become a new trend in traditional dating.The comment above provided a source for an income measure. What is your source ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/21 10:11 PM |
| 9 | FUTURISTIC: Average men blatantly covering their shortcomings with sugar may become a new trend in traditional dating.The gap has probably grown since then but the narrative probably insists that no one talk about men earning less because then feminism loses a crisis to talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/21 02:11 AM |
| 1 | FUTURISTIC: Average men blatantly covering their shortcomings with sugar may become a new trend in traditional dating.I see no problem with sugaring so long as everyone is up front and transparent. Why does it need to be stopped? At least you know what you are getting into. Men who don't want to get serious anytime soon despite hitting middle age, and can don't mind parting with sugar income. I haven't been serious with anyone in 3 years but have been dating casual; sometimes intimate and sometimes almost intimate lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/21 02:07 AM |
| 2 | Would women consider a man with a low N-Count more desirable?Exactly. Men don't get comfortable talking with women as more than friends if they haven't put in the work of aggressively pursuing women to talk to for the aim of becoming more than friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/21 04:27 AM |
| 1 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.Yep. And I need to stop commenting on PPD in the middle of the night when I can’t go back to sleep lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 01:42 PM |
| 1 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."Was there a way to subpoena Tinder data and mobile data? This sounds like a revenge setup from an ex of some sorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 07:06 AM |
| 0 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."Increasing my options help me to understand higher value females who have options. It helped me understand why they would break away and ghost someone who is smothering you with their neediness and their clinging desperation for you to make their dream of being lonely go away. Seriously, this one female I met on OLD wanted me to call her to say good night almost every night the second week after meeting me in person. I wanted to still talk and maybe even go out but I wasn’t ready to be serious. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 03:53 AM |
| 1 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.I wonder if a lot of what people observe is also moderated by culture and generational group, in addition to Gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 02:28 PM |
| 1 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.I'm doing fine now. I wasn't 3 years ago. I was happy with the change but sometimes I look back at how much work I did vs how much work the women I dated since then or know who get offers upon offers did, and the level of work doesn't sit right with me. If you are in a club or party then I can understand why some men with high smv are going after who they find most attractive. OTOH, average men (not the ones you refer to probably but you don't realize it because they are invisible) will approach… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 01:33 PM |
| 2 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.Many not obese women under 35 that get approached all the time and have men do all the pursuit and logistics probably don’t need a strategy, therefore they assume that men don’t either. We know that men do need strategies and work unless you are trust fund Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 08:08 AM |
| 3 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.Lol. Okay. A woman putting herself out there is opening an Instagram account and posting a few duckface pictures. Average but not unhealthy women. The average man has to use a strategy and a lot of work to even get his foot in the door. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 07:54 AM |
| 1 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.Men have to be interesting and pass a looks threshold and have a threshold for their career before a woman will actually be visible as a potential mate to average women who are not overweight. Men have to work for those things and many do it for the explicit purpose of getting female attention. Women don’t have to do those things to get male attention, but we won’t turn her down if she is half way interesting and has a decent job and is not overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 07:49 AM |
| 2 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.I suspect you’re right. But I would like to witness it first hand. Ok also curious how many men of higher smv match with a very average woman who is not overweight. I do fine but I am still in disbelief with how many women deny the disparity between averag women and average men in regards to easy access to dating and casual sex or just don’t see it. This thread even had numerous examples of women (probably those under 35-39) saying they don’t ’do all they can’ or use a strategy to get Chad every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 07:37 AM |
| 1 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.I really want to try this one day simultaneously so I don't end up with seasonal or order bias. I'll have to add another phone number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 02:42 AM |
| 0 | There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value.Yes I agree. However, the redpill wake up tonic was realizing what the other gender really values and how much change and work was needed to even be in the game as a man. For men to play the game, they need to be good looking enough, charming enough (not boring), at least a certain height for most women, have a decent job or upward mobility, and work out enough to make up for falling short in any of the areas above. Womens entry requirements for the game: Dont be overweight, at least be able to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 01:49 AM |
| 1 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.Which well known famous person did your 'unattractive' bf look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.My bad. It was late and one of the last phone comments I sashes off before falling asleep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 01:38 AM |
| 4 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.Which well known famous person did your 'unattractive' bf look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 01:21 AM |
| 5 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.Yep. I've never heard any of my friends disqualify a woman over height. I've been with women around 4'11 and women 5'8-6'2 (the one who was over 6' once in HS lol on a blind date that got hot ... I wish I had kept in touch with her though. She was a basketball player and great Viking Valkyrie. ) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 01:12 AM |
| 4 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.Because many traits aren't comparable. You can't change or 'improve' height but someone can change their body composition and weight. Facial structure is hard to change but most people can change or replace hair (maybe). Fashion and style help too. You almost never find men critiquing a woman over height. Most of us are just attracted to women who are 4'11 or 5'11. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.Good call. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 01:01 AM |
| 1 | The reason why some women claim looks don't matter that much is because they subconsciously characterize certain physiological traits as a man's personality rather than a part of his looks.Being tall and fit looking is automatically transferred to the perception that the man is competent, confident and charming (if he plays it safe). Halo effect 101. The same happens to females in regards to body shape, fitness and facial attractiveness and fashion style. Women get to skip the good and the bad of traits being subconsciously inferred from height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 12:59 AM |
| 2 | The most important thing for a man in a relationship is to know that it isn't transactional. If a man believes the woman sees the relationship as transactional, he'll treat it as transactional too and do as little as possible to get laid.Well said. Agreed. But neither man nor woman should every come off as too needy and clingy and dependent on the other. Still, desire needs to be real and vetted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 04:30 AM |
| 2 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?Women with lots of options (fit, pretty, cultured and educated ) or low SMV women with so so or no options? That’s the difference in the take on this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?Perfect relationships are probably very rare. What most people see and think is a perfect relationship is really just two reasonable people who are self-disciplined and committed to working things out together. It’s not all down to the man, and it’s not all his fault when relationships fail. It’s up to two people working together in a commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 12:36 AM |
| 5 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?The ugly but gets laid guy is probably kind of rough looking in the face, maybe looks like a thug or maybe a little dangerous, but probably has a muscular masculine body and is very dominant. Because the guy doesn’t have a pretty face, they think that that means he’s ugly, you’re being very masculine muscular gets him the win. This thread really needs a thorough, complete operational definition of what makes a man ugly. Maybe a few pictures that people actually know our looks like they go they k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 10:33 PM |
| 1 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?Unless you are socially awkward, and women’s subtle clues are lost or invisible to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 10:05 PM |
| 13 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?A lot of men and women wrongly assume that a pretty face should be attractive. But that is many times not really the case. I guarantee Vin Diesel in his prime pulled HBs as much or more than a modern Disney star boy band member does now. And many men and women assume that a guy who doesn’t have a pretty face is maybe average or below average, and even ugly. Vin Diesel is definitely not a pretty boy, but I would hardly call him ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 10:00 PM |
| 3 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?Only with really low SMV women and for a woman to be low SMV there must be a few things seriously wrong, like mental health, drug abuse, and obesity, and maybe just a really bad unfortunate facial feature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 09:55 PM |
| 0 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?Up there with "just be yourself" lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?I mean he doesn't look great now because he's in his 70s, carrying more weight than he should, and he has probably lost almost 2 inches in height from age and from poor spinal alignment and posture. But look at multi-millionaire Donald Trump in 1980 in his 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?I don't necessarily prioritize it but it does signal to men that she finds you physically attractive and she not just picking you for comfort or something else you can provide for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 11:30 PM |
| 24 | 84% of working women told ForbesWoman that staying home to raise children is a financial luxury they aspire to...more than 1 in 3 resent their partner for not earning enough to make that dream a reality.Many if not most of the female counterparts in my PhD program had boyfriends or fiancées who are accountants, or programmers, or other professionals making bank that can cohabitate with them and help the women in the PhD program live a good lifestyle that allowed them more time and reduced stress so they could devote a lot of time to study. Most of the guys in the PhD program had to support themselves and live poor unless they had family money. Edit: bad phone typos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?I’ve seen that too. It’s almost like some women don’t realize when they have the animal attraction for a very masculine male. Some women figure it out and that’s why they make the distinction between a cute or beautiful guy or a handsome guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 05:04 AM |
| 0 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?Not with attractive women and probably only with women with extreme mental health issues, overweight women or using drugs to attract an addict. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 04:49 AM |
| 5 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?That is pretty much the red pill right there. The rest is just heuristics gleaned from war stories and case studies from the field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 04:36 AM |
| 4 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?Not around here. A HVM is Chad who can go to any bar or any party and get casual sex that same night from a woman he just met. I can date and get action but I have had to work for it and work out and stay sharp on watching fashion. I’m probably a reformed average guy who strived to edge out to be above average in my OLD prospects, but I’m not a natural Chad and know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 04:32 AM |
| 5 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?Agreed. There is a difference between the guy a woman thinks makes good husband material and gives her comfort and the guy that makes her tingle. Sometimes they can overlap but after a certain age it seems a lot of women think they want comfort and then get disillusioned and maybe low key resentful that they “settled”. Then they monkey branch. I respect the hell out of women who have the self awareness to know when they just don’t feel it and decide to be forthright with you and move on before t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 04:30 AM |
| 13 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?Donald Trump has always had money and has had celebutant status since the 80s. He was also better looking when he was younger and is 6’3 or was when he was younger. All of that right there despite how big of a boorish asshole he is, is a huge lead on 90% of other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?I agree to some extent but I don’t think everyone stays motivated to that degree after the initial drive. I still have the need to feel useful and important but I sometimes wonder if I would actually be more content ‘settling’ for comfort and enjoying my time off just doing fun trivial things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?Yes, all of this. Thank you for explaining it for me. I don’t resent people being happy. That’s not the issue. When I hear them literally singing hello good morning like they’re in a musical, I feel like it puts pressure on me to act the same way regardless of how I actually feel about that day. For what it’s worth, the men don’t do that but they do perk up when saying hello to the senior women. It’s only the women, but they are the majority of our office staff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?I didn't mean it seriously literally bothers me. It just feels forced and like everyone is supposed to be like that. I mean I suspect it's a case if they feel like they are expected to be sing songy or else they are not in a positive mood. I suspect mild toxic positivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 07:52 PM |
| 35 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?This. The culture in white collar work is more female now which comes with higher expectations of reciprocal social grace use and complimenting each other and saying hello every morning in a sing song voice (several women in my office literally sing when they are greeting). I can't stand it. The new corporate and academic culture is all about pleasing committees and seeking approval and permisson, which girls learn early on and boys care less about until later. The only way to be a male maverick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 05:24 AM |
| 5 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?Reverse that. Young men can have a lot of desire to date but no outlet so why bother? I'm not talking about myself btw. I just get the idea that the game is stacked against young men now so why not just do enough to support what you enjoy and opt out of living to earn the right to impress a woman who may or may not want to stay with you longer than a year unless you are chasing gold and raising her standard of living? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:56 AM |
| 3 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?Those articles started a few years ago. Its amazing how with one side of the mouth they can say income doesn't matter (if you're Chad) but it does matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:41 AM |
| 6 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?Good point. If younger guys starting out look at how much men actually have to do to get sexual attraction (looks or charm, job prospect, make more money than female peers) and the divorce rate is over 50% why not opt out and slum it and play games and do things you enjoy that don't lead to immediate reinforcement of failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:31 AM |
| 3 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?RemindMe! 2 Days | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:25 AM |
| 6 | Why are so many young men falling behind on the dating market (and just life in general)?It's so easy to fall into that when you are surrounded by so many beautiful and smart women every day. But for men you're better off going into monk mode and using your undergrad years to study and find a career path. You'll have more fun and muck with women when you're a little older and have a solid paycheck and work status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Chick showed me a slide show of every dude she’s dated/fucked. I’m on it, don’t know how to reactI'm not sure what you mean? There are several ways she could handle the situation. I'll start with what I would do if someone I was casually dating seemed to withdraw. First, I would chill out and not get top excited and pretend that we have a relationship or a promise to eachother. I would not rapid fire text replies back saying I miss your voice, it's been too long or the hurt entitled "I wasn't sure you wanted me to text you again after your last reply". I would just be be chill and casual li… | /r/askTRP | 22/02/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Chick showed me a slide show of every dude she’s dated/fucked. I’m on it, don’t know how to reactDo you see her stalking you on FB? An ex encounter from December is at the top of my suggested friends on FB and it’s starting to stress me out seeing her there every time I open FB. I tried to be nice and be friends but she wants to be “entitled hurt” and either stalks or starts saying awkward hurt stuff anytime I text. Blocking may be the only answer. | /r/askTRP | 21/02/21 10:31 PM |
| 1 | How do men want women to behave?Yes sign me up. I’m wondering if something similar happened to me this past summer. LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 10:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't care about women's careers. But class definitely plays a role when it comes to datingThis is it. It's like how language barriers and not culture alone might explain why some groups don't marry outside the group often. The language is the linguistic proximity that binds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 05:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't care about women's careers. But class definitely plays a role when it comes to datingTrue. Too many people think of a 9 as just someone they subjectively find very attractive. No. You have to rate based on features alone. A nine is even rare among celebrity actors and dancers but maybe not high profile models. When guys on trp brag about landing a "HB9" I instantly doubt it and translate it to a very well oiled and manicured 7 or 8 tops or maybe a 6 with a smokeshow body and sexy club outfit. I was watching Vikings and thought that Ragnar's wife Lagertha is pretty yet realistic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 05:04 AM |
| 1 | How do men want women to behave?It’s this. It’s easy for most not horrible looking women to get casual non-committed sex therefore it’s a cheap good. Most average men though have to work for it. Only the top 10% probably find it easy to get lots of casual sex without paying for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 03:36 AM |
| 7 | How do men want women to behave?Consistency in how she treats you in comparison to any privilege she gave other guys in the past is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 03:31 AM |
| 10 | How do men want women to behave?What kind of deranged hamster thinking was that? No guy wants to be ‘that guy’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 03:30 AM |
| 12 | How do men want women to behave?Submissive usually translates into agreeable and emotionally low maintenance. It means she looks up to you and trusts your judgment and doesn’t try to undermine everything you set out to do. Submissive does not equate to subservience. Being submissive also has nothing to do with a woman being a stay at home wife. The N count issue. I believe you set up a straw man saying that high n-count men aren’t looked upon with suspicion. Women can get sex much easier and don’t have to put much effort into … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 03:25 AM |
| 1 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"I was getting carried away joking but many people in the US put a lot of energy into rationalizing away dealing with weight. Unfortunately I know many women in extended family and friends on social media (FB mainly) who are overweight but then post cute meme stuff about "eating their feelings" or raising the icecream and cake at 2am in the morning. Then later post about being unwanted and then later about accepting that they are overweight and have "curves" smh. Then later post about male actors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 01:44 PM |
| 1 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 06:27 AM |
| 2 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Lol ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 06:25 AM |
| 3 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Very good points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 06:24 AM |
| 2 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Then why are the ranks of the overweight cat mom wine aunts growing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 06:20 AM |
| 2 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"I learned that the hard way - she was easily 30 lbs heavier than her expert angle manipulation photos let on. Then had a string of good luck and forgot that lesson and had to learn it again this fall after laying off OLD for a year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 06:08 AM |
| 6 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Lol and the women here are saying that height is as valid of a preference as a woman's size. I accept that everyone can have their preferences but they will never admit that weight is something that can be changed -- without enough self-discipline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 06:04 AM |
| 4 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Facts. If they put as much physical energy into exercise and eating clean as they put into mental gymnastics for body acceptance and anti-fatshaming soap boxing they wouldn't be overweight anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 05:45 AM |
| 1 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Many couples put on weight after they have been dating a while or after getting married. Single people that want to date or mand a committment should not let themselves go like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 05:42 AM |
| 4 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"You're not harassing him with your put downs? It's easy to see behind the edgy exterior that something about his post touched a nerve. His whole post seems like an earnest question. Fat women are more abundant now even though women can change their weight with discipline, but height can't change with the same discipline. Believe it or not, many men like those on workout and brogress subs put in aot of work on their bodies but are still expected to accept fatter women as looks matches because of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 05:26 AM |
| 1 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"What was the big deal about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 04:44 AM |
| 2 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Thin skin. Any comment that is offensive to their ego is deemed as the hugest disrespect. If you were an actor saying this on Twitter or IG you would be ‘canceled’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 04:32 AM |
| 1 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Lol 😆 👌 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 04:29 AM |
| 1 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"So sad and so true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 04:26 AM |
| 2 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Lol. This have me a great laugh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 04:14 AM |
| 5 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Women come right out and say it on OLD. I’ve seen all variations of the following: “I’m (x height ... usually over 5’8) so no shorties” “I’m (x height) and I like to wear heels, so... “ or they just list their height unprovoked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 04:02 AM |
| 4 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Yes it is borderline asking too much lol. If I connect with a moderate weight (not thin but not overweight) woman on OLD or IRL and she has a good attitude and likes me, she’s a keeper and will have no problem with commitment. So overweight is average but not normalized for attraction. I didn’t know the average adult female weight was 171 lbs. Wow. I assume that’s in the US. The whole fluffy empty body acceptance movement did an extreme disservice to the ‘average’ American woman. Women were told… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 12:06 AM |
| 3 | The widespread opinion that men do not carry their weight in marriage is a good reason for men not to marry.It’s almost like there may be more advantages than disadvantages to getting married and starting a family young. I don’t think it’s the career that makes people wait — it’s the capitalism culture of always wanting more and making everything disposable including relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/21 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?Fair enough. I actually just came to this thread to eat popcorn and watch the show. I should pay more attention to the topic. I respect at all the women I’ve met recently. It’s just it for one reason or another it didn’t work out. However, I will go on record as disagreeing with the premise of the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?“And if you personally, as you said, “are here because of our experiences in the real world, LOL. I’ve been out with about 12 different women in the past two years,” yet you still believe women are worthless trash unworthy of respect.... well, that tells me something about the quality of people you spend time with or about what kind of dreck you listen to... “ Where do you get that I ever said “women are worthless trash unworthy of respect“? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?The 12 different situations I referred to are all different. About three maybe four were first dates with two or three ending nicely and escalating. The rest were casual situations with differing levels of expectations and I wasn’t quite ready for an LTR. I brought it up for context. I brought it up because the assumption is, your assumption and your comment, is that many of us here don’t get out and don’t go on dates, and are probably incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?You read a lot into my comment. I didn't say anything about my experience with these women recently except for one that was giving me anxiety because she was extra clingy-demanding-entitled. More later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 03:15 PM |
| 5 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?A lot of us are here because of our experiences in the real world, LOL. I’ve been out with about 12 different women in the past two years. We come here to discuss and debate a lot of different issues and not just one single worldview. Your generalization seems to imply that all the males here are low value or incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 11:55 AM |
| 4 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.Facts is facts. Men can't change height without extreme surgery but women can change their weight over time by managing stress, eating less and cleaner foods, and getting moderate exercise. As for thigh gaps or other female obsessions, I dgaf about a thigh gap. Show me a nice athletically toned leg though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 02:28 AM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.And yet someone will strawman this into "unrealistic expectations" and "men expect thin women" lol. I find this female BMI chart accurate for what most men consider to be overweight and not as attractive. It's sad that there are more categories for what's overweight (D-J) compared to 'normal' healthy weight (A-C). I see women all the way up to J on Tinder. I bet no male equivalent to H-J would even try to get on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:06 AM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.It means that women I know and am friends with say that they can’t help what they find attractive and that usually includes physical attributes as well as other things they think a man should provide like security. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:56 PM |
| 6 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.So true. It’s like a logistic curve for women anymore and that’s including average face women where if they’re not fat they are on the upper part of the s curve and if they are fat it’s the lower base s curve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:49 PM |
| 9 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.I agree with all of that. I would choose the girl with the less pretty face because she’s all of that and is fun to be around and doesn’t complain, but she isn’t overweight. Just don’t be fat. Turns on Tinder and sees half the women are overweight and still entitled lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:46 PM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.This is legit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:43 PM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.Women all the time say “you can’t negotiate attraction” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:43 PM |
| 6 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.Very few men over age 21 I know have ever actually mocked a woman for being too slim. Now if the woman looks anorexic then they may worry for her health but you all know we’re not talking about underweight women here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:39 PM |
| 3 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.A butterface will always give me that diamond hardness much more than a butterbody. Still the face has to pass a minimal not too high threshold. Different strokes, no pun intended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:36 PM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.I would like to know how the OP is defining “hotties”. If the OP defines a hottie as a woman with , With the face of a model who has good fashion sense, is not overweight and has a very well-defined waistline, then I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 10:18 PM |
| 1 | How do you actually go for the kiss?I don’t always consciously think of this, but I think of it as the most creep safe way. Only do this after you have established consistent Kino. This meaning she is touching you back or initiating touch on your arm or leg or anywhere else. If you are saying goodbye or are already close just lean in a little bit and look straight into her eyes and hold her gaze and then lean almost close enough to kiss and see if she follows your lead. | /r/askTRP | 05/02/21 10:21 PM |
| 10 | Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationshipsThis is the way I would prefer to do it too. If the woman takes an active part it relieves any doubt in my mind that I’m going to be a creep throwing out unwanted advances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/21 10:35 PM |
| 6 | What is your ideal ONS?This is the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/21 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?Yet many here deny that force fed insistence as the end conclusion for the inclusivity movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Why does everyone assume that I can't get a women or a girlfriend when I said I plan to be single and not get married at all?I took a break for a couple of weeks to relax and enjoy doing me things and taking on extra side work projects. I read more, worked out more, watched a movie I wanted to watch, played music, and just enjoyed chilling. My last date was about 2 weeks ago and she was becoming very clingy, demanding in a clingy victim way, and just scary sappy. I enjoy my alone time. I would break it up with hanging with my bros but I do not have much more time for anything serious with a woman. And for dating and s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/01/21 01:37 AM |
| 1 | What is the psychology of women who lust after serial killers?RemindMe! 24 hours | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | What is the psychology of women who lust after serial killers?God tier hamster | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 01:20 AM |
| -1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?So how do you define “starting a movement” or doing something about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?Maybe the market for average sized women. Saying that men want skinny Victoria's Secret models is a strawman (or strawwoman). I don't think there are obese women in the middle of the bell curve for what men find attractive. Lower tail or outlier is more likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?Homer et al were the objects of jokes. Is that what everyone wants for women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 12:24 AM |
| 0 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?Why doesn't someone in academia or the media start it for me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?It doesn't bother me personally but it bothers me in principle. I don't like that the double standard is rarely acknowledged. The woman in the pic looks like the American average which makes the claim that she is a victim of body shaming seem even more sensationalized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?I agree. It's not about her but about the idea of body inclusivity. People can't help what they find attractive so if its attractive it will be featured. No need for a forced fed movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 11:57 PM |
| 3 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?Those men in those sitcoms were never seen as attractive. That was set up for comedic effect and lame jokes about the men. Why no one gets this, I haven't a clue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Is the body inclusivity movement one-sided hypocrisy or double standard?What about men getting blasted and ignite for their height? I'm average and don't suffer too much from it but I see height being an issue allover OLD dating apps. The most subtle allusion to height requirements come in the form of women posting their height like "5'8 and I like wearing heels, so ..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Neither gender really wants sex. What they really want is desire from the opposite sex.The OP is assuming prostitution is legal and safe and ethical (no trafficking slaves) and available. If paying for sex work was no more difficult than getting a dram of liquor or sexbots were another option, this game we play would undergo a major paradigm shift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 04:23 AM |
| 1 | Women feel the same way about men they’re not attracted to as men feel about gay men.A lot of people can turn it around. We all have to work with what we got and max what we can. The average but well educated woman is more accessible and understanding than most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/21 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.How do you define "Branch swinging"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/21 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.We need 100 bros to document their experiences with at least 10 different women. That would be a decent sample size that would be hard to ignore or gaslight as anecdotal, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.It did before. But it’s disrespectful, cheating, and whole bunch of other things. Some guys waste a lot of time trying to change their behavior or bank account in order to please someone who has already jumped ship anyway. At least be a halfway decent human and let someone know so they don’t waste their time trying to fix something that can’t be fixed. It used to bother me more in the past, maybe 3 years ago, but now I have no expectations and know that it’s probably “just my turn”. I think I am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.Based. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.Anecdotes are actually notes from field observations. Document them well enough and they can be analyzed statistically or at the very least using what sociologists call quantitative data analysis. Eventually it's possible to curate enough field observations to test statistically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 12:45 PM |
| 2 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.Scruples and principles. Men get criticized for only wanting sex and for not committing, but a lot of higher smv women will branch swing and then rewrite the relationship history to make the last guy the bad guy when in reality she just thought she found a better option. Many married or engaged women will do this instead of just leaving. Why not leave when you know it's not working and then find another person later? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 12:29 PM |
| 3 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.We own it when we do it, we get blamed for hurting a woman, and we get called bad names for it. Women get excused for it and it's never their fault. That's why its different. But I personally have never branch swinged once I committed. What I will do now is leave a date situation if I see red flags or I won't give or expect a commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.Women who have good bodies and pursue interesting careers have options and will act on maximizing their options until they can't anymore because their looks hit the wall. It's amazing how many of the commenters here, probably the PPD women, will try to gaslight you and say that your experience really didn't happen to that the normal but attractive women you knew were just bad person outliers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.You can sus out whether someone is genuinely kind and easy going over time if you are lucky enough to befriend them before dating. I moved in that direction from someone who was an 8 in my book but was just very uptight, complained about everything and everyone and was possessive and demanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 11:58 AM |
| 8 | Even if men admit that they over-prioritize sexual attraction and promiscuity, they don't recognize the consequences of doing that.You said this much better than I attempted to in the past. Some women may be aware of the dissociation between what a man sees in SMV and RMV but they still think they can use sex as a means to buy there way in to a commitment. When it doesn't work they say that the man behaved badly and hurt them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Women feel the same way about men they’re not attracted to as men feel about gay men.Your definition for “friends” is definitely broader. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/21 02:48 AM |
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