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So as long as we equally criticize men's and women's preferences, it's okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:02 PM
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Did you just ignore my entire SOURCED comment referencing book sales?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:01 PM
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You cannot blame women for having their sexual preferences Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:02 PM
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Moderation needs to get a grip on my piece
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:00 PM
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I might have a bread later
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:57 PM
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https://gridalternatives.org/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:54 PM
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Of course they're PHYSICALLY attractive, but having to listen to them try to articulate a thought is so painful that it's actually difficult to find them attractive overall. Teenagers are just so goddamn stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:52 PM
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I also believe that any sex worker who doesn't have a pimp is extremely likely to enjoy their job. If you really liked sex, and sex was super easy to get, AND you could get paid for it...like why not? Of the 3 sex workers I've known, 2 really enjoyed it. They chose their johns and liked them. The 3rd had really bad mental issues and drug issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:49 PM
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It's difficult to get precise numbers because the kind of smut we're talking about often hides itself as "romance", "fantasy", or "romantasy". In reality the line is about as blurry as possible between garden-variety sex scenes and the kind of stuff that would get you put on a list if you talked about it outside of the container of a romance novel. I think it's fair to assume that 90% of romance books have sex scenes. I also think it's reasonable though somewhat arbitrary to assume about 50% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:38 PM
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Women are just as awful as men. Men and women just typically have different opportunities to be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:20 PM
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super niche community It's way, WAY more common than you think. And growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:02 PM
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Yeah. That would be sweet and thoughtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:51 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:45 PM
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Agreed - I just don't limit it to men. There are a lot of shitty people in the world, and that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:40 PM
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Yes, and I don't think that's unreasonable. Jesus, how entitled can you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:37 PM
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My conclusion is that you're drawn to shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:44 PM
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Things I recently did for my female friends: put up and take down Christmas lights cut down a Christmas tree removed and threw out a mattress fixed a pool pump took bags of trash down a hill to a street collection took groceries down from the top shelf at the market drove her car at night on wet roads because she was scared built a fire To be fair, they are very grateful and do express appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:42 PM
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Absolutely. Chicks dig a nice butt. Plus more cushion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:02 AM
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I have no idea what Justin Bieber's personality is like
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:35 AM
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That's fair but you started this conversation talking about crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:12 AM
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True, I'm just saying it's not the fault of the local government. It's the fault of the citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:39 PM
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Assuming our personalities meshed and the only reason I didn't date her is because of her weight, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:54 PM
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Where I live, we LITERALLY can't afford to keep criminals, because voters keep saying on the one hand "lock up the criminals" but on the other hand "no, I am not willing to accept a tax hike to pay for another jail" So now the cops are like, we can't arrest this guy, we have nowhere to put him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:52 PM
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Still think you're lying, but if you're not lying, you're insane. A 30 year old being preyed upon? Get the fuck out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:49 PM
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Sounds bloody
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:41 AM
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I love having money. I can just buy things. Would I like to open a tab? Sure! First class flight? Why not! Oh these shoes are on sale? I don't care!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:40 AM
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Noice! 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:59 PM
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Thatsthejoke.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:49 PM
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There's a point where you just give up and keep a lint roller in your car or backpack or purse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:45 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen a 10 foot tall woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:42 PM
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Yeah, but I'm not willing to put in any effort to find a girl. Eventually one will fall into my lap. This is a brilliant plan that has no potential downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:41 PM
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She's a hot muscle mommy 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:32 PM
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Have you never met ANY rednecks? Holy privilege lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:26 PM
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By that definition, almost everything everyone ever does is via coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:23 PM
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I want a podcast where a woman with a British accent talks about random things. I just love that accent. I don't really care about the subject matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:24 AM
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Possibly because most people have few or no friends in their 30s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:22 AM
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That's ridiculous. You think all these young men, despite openly being overjoyed at having sex, are secretly traumatized or something? That's just repackaged slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:21 AM
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You said sea instead of SEA so I got all excited to hear an update about what the ocean was like today 🙁
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:32 AM
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The white girls all get wifed up at like 15 and start pumping out kids and by the time they're 28 they're fat and constantly shouting at children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:30 AM
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Ivory tower feminist intellectuals are meaningless. They do not control, direct, or inspire modern feminism. Most modern feminists have no idea their work exists. Examining men exclusively through the lens of how they're harmed by the patriarchy has a limited range. None of the great mass of modern TikTok feminists would even KNOW ABOUT the male suicide rate if the manosphere wasn't constantly talking about it. I'm not a red piller, I know the manosphere is mostly lies and grift. But I also know…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:01 AM
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These young men are not being exploited, fuck off. Adults can have consensual sex with other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:55 AM
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Bullshit. No one gives a fuck if it's a "rough time", you're a grown ass adult and there is nothing wrong with you having consensual sex with other grown adults. Just to make it abundantly clear, I think you are lying when you claim that you think she's being predatory. I don't think you care about these precious innocent chaste angelic 18 year old men. I think you hate that she's violating gender norms and you are, consciously or subconsciously, grasping at something to justify your hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:48 AM
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Because women & feminism cares more about boys & young men HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'll believe that when feminism starts talking about the male suicide rate. This is such an obvious lie, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:02 PM
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I’m not into casual nonsense. That's EXTREMELY clear, but don't let your anti-sex bias cause you to spew hatred at women who do like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:01 PM
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Similar effect: anyone who shouts PEDO PEDO PEDO probably knows they have no argument and is just trying to scare you into silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:00 PM
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This isn't a debate, it's just a rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:01 AM
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Anyone anywhere, who ever shouts any variation of "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!" is almost inevitably a fucking liar, doesn't give a shit about children, and just wants to restrict someone else's freedom. This issue included.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:54 AM
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anti sexualization and suppression of women FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:52 AM
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Then why is the hate towards her coming from women, and not the men she's (rofl) "exploiting"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:48 AM
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18 year olds are legally men. Stop infantilising men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:47 AM
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Why did you stop dancing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:06 PM
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Men's fantasy is a best friend who also fucks them a lot Women's fantasy is...idk, werewolves or something? I don't read romantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:03 PM
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The women here are FUN. I'd share a beer with them, if they weren't too busy throwing it in my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:00 PM
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Girl on the left looks like she keeps a ball gag and a pair of handcuffs in her purse just in case. Barbies and sorority clones are boring. The worse the bangs, the better she bangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:58 PM
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You've got my ok too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:43 PM
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It's when a woman's power level goes over 5,000 and she starts glowing and gains the ability to fly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:41 PM
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Christ, is that what we're calling ugly now? Those women look solidly mid to me. Healthy weight, smiling, nerdy, I'd give em a shot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:40 PM
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Maybe. I haven't seen any data, just a loooot of anecdotes like the one that prompted this conversation. But yeah, maybe it's selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:09 PM
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Ooooof, someone went down TOO MANY youtube rabbit holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:26 PM
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That's fair, it can go too far in that extreme. But a healthy middle ground is much closer to western Europe than the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:16 AM
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I think it's a more general issue than you realize. Whether nature or nurture or both, women tend to want a very clean household (though in my experience, it's almost exclusively partnered women who want this - most single women live in a chaos cave). Funny anecdote from my life: every single woman who has lived with me except my mother has complained that I didn't clean enough. Then those who went on to live by themselves had a household much much messier than the one we lived in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:52 AM
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You cannot expect business to pay people not to work for extended periods of time. I respectfully disagree. This works just fine in many companies (like tech giants) who offer generous parental leave, and in many countries (like western European nations) where long vacations are the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:49 AM
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I called this ten years ago. Feminists were always talking about the number of male politicians and CEOs etc. But then they were using that as an argument to boost women in college, especially in high-earning degrees. We're going to see more and more women earning more and more because feminists have been using solutions that pay off in 50 years to try to solve today's problems. 30 more women entering college will not spontaneously generate a single female CEO. 50 years from now, if this trend d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:44 AM
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The reason the rule is unspoken is because it's illegal. Under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA or the Act), employees have the right to communicate with their coworkers about their wages, as well as with labor organizations, worker centers, the media, and the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:41 AM
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Right, but no matter the size or the skill, the guy needs to get in bed with her at least once first. That's the biggest hurdle for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:11 AM
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I left. Tried to stick it out for a year longer than I should have though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:08 AM
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No, that's...the entire point? Of what I posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:04 AM
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I need sex. I would get resentful if we're living together, saying "I love you", cuddling, but she doesn't desire me physically. As for other partners...I don't know. She seems to have no interest in finding anyone else ever. She's got her life together. I've been avoiding the question by focusing on work, but at some point I'll need to get back in the dating game and I don't know how she'll take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:29 AM
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I'm not looking to date right now, but you're right. When I do refocus from work to finding a partner, it won't be her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:34 AM
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Thinking about it more, it wouldn't work. I still want to be with other women. I couldn't do monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:20 AM
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Late 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:16 AM
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I'm in a situationship with a woman. We previously dated, and are absolutely truly in love, but she lost her sex drive (at least towards me, but honestly I think in general). I have a high sex drive. She refuses to try to change it, says she's happier without it (fair enough). If she matched my sex drive, I'd probably marry her. Like we're not perfectly compatible but we can work through everything else. When we broke up it was half the sex thing and half money (she made 2x as much as me and I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:57 AM
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TIL I am some women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:50 AM
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I'm saying, women expect you to just know before talking to them about it. Before even talking to them at all, in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:58 AM
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It literally does not. It changes the context for that woman, in her own mind, which I am not privy to but from my perspective as the man it is literally EXACTLY the same scenario in a freaky magic time warp way, just with 3 different women. God what is so impossible for you people to grasp here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:18 PM
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Same👏exact👏social👏cues👏in👏each👏scenario. What are you not understanding about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:16 PM
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Don't take my word for it, ask the vast majority of men who have ever tried dating women. You're a grown up, look around the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:13 PM
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I don't see how you can possibly come to that conclusion when I'm saying the context is the same all 3 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:24 PM
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Here we go again with the "if you just try hard enough, you can read her mind". I'm saying the exact same scenario with the exact same actions down to the facial microexpressions can mean 3 different things from 3 different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:24 PM
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Lemme specify: same exact situation. Same location, same context, same conversation. Same man. 3 different women. 3 different meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:57 PM
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Bingo. That's why the resolution to this problem is to ignore what women say until you're in a relationship with one individual woman, and you get a chance to hear what she says. Until that point, just do whatever you want and make whatever assumptions you want and if she gets mad you couldn't read her mind, sucks to be her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:48 PM
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Almost every woman thinks this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:07 PM
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I repeat: But each woman expects you to know what it means to her, and if you just started dating that's impossible. Women absolutely do expect you to know ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:33 PM
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ooooh that's a spicy take, Zoomers are gonna bury you so far down you'll feel the magma You're right though and it makes them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:38 PM
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Off the top of my head, touch. One woman touching you on the arm means "I'm dtf RIGHT NOW" and another woman touching you on the arm means "I'm really interested in what we're talking about" and another woman touching you on the arm means "I'm feeling anxious and need some security". Which is fine, whatever. But each woman expects you to know what it means to her, and if you just started dating that's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:34 PM
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I've known 3 women who did it. One eventually went full-on prostitute, one found a man and married him, and one is still single (mostly happily) and occasionally goes on dating sprints.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:36 AM
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There are MILLIONS of women obsessed with serial killers. It's a huge thing. I can't believe those other women arguing with me have never heard of it. Y'all live under a rock? Women are freaky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:39 AM
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Perfect weather. Begone, flaming ball of cancer!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:38 AM
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Noice, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:34 AM
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Q4A: do you think you'll ever be able to afford to retire?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:07 AM
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I would like to be there when she has her next date. I wouldn't want to BE her date, I just want to observe the next shitshow
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:02 AM
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I don't even really remember the girl I lost my virginity to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:47 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sagg08DrO5U&list=RDSagg08DrO5U&start_radio=1
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:28 AM
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free speech And who and is guaranteeing that freedom? And how are they guaranteeing it? Have empathy or I'll fuck you up is never going to produce true empathy. Then you've been warned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:24 AM
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Trump personally is a walking pile of dementia. It's the Federalist Society and Turning Point USA who can influence things, and they are doing so. Trump was the vehicle to get them into power. They're still in the consolidation phase, and their main focus is on "immigrants", but women are in their crosshairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:14 AM
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always kowtowing in fear to men threatening violence That is simply existence in a world with governments. It's about ensuring degrees of freedom within that paradigm. But ALL of it is backed by whoever has the power of physical violence. And, I'd like to emphasize, it's not some ridiculous thing being suggested here. Just empathy. Should be a basic requirement for human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:11 AM
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Well, since we're on reddit, I was mainly thinking about reddit comments. I don't know what other media you're on, but you're definitely here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:05 AM
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Well you can start to understand why men voted for Trump as a backlash against feminism when you realize that Trump voters are fundamentally some of the dumbest humans to crawl upon the earth. Trump very obviously hates women and sees them as tools. The whole conservative movement has making women second class citizens as one of its primary goals. It's not about dating life, you're thinking too small. It's about a broad, society-wide, systemic suppression of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:02 AM
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You're insane if you think getting in shape doesn't improve your chances with women. Mental self-improvement, okay, I'll give you that one, it doesn't affect your chances. But physical self-improvement? Chicks dig a low body fat man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:54 AM
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Is this a threat? Yes. You have a way to make it certain? Not me personally, but men in general. And it's really really awful. I'm saying if you take the "lol sucks to be you, idgaf" route it can horrifically backfire. Ideally, you would in fact gaf because it's the right thing to do, but even barring that, you should gaf because if you don't it can lead men to say "well fuck it we'll do it the hard way". It's a huge part of why Trump got re-elected. So if you can't have empathy, please at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:50 AM
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"Deal with it" is a very dangerous can of worms to open up in a society that is still largely patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:27 AM
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I don't really care so please don't get into it, but fyi no one knows what the hell a "kundlis" is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:26 AM
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It's a really normal and slightly flirty question. Again it's got a whole background and subtext which you're clearly not getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:40 AM
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They would be like "remember that time when you were 1 year old and you reached for a ball and it was super cute? So I've found you a WNBA player"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:58 AM
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I would NOT trust my family to find me a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:50 AM
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The real broad approach is getting a job as a bartender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:48 AM
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PC Pamela Pritchard, 29, thrust her hand into a male colleague's groin twice and later sat on his knee and kissed him, after drinking at a leaving do at Caernarfon Rugby Club, Gwynedd, in March 2024. . a leaving do at Caernarfon Rugby Club, Gwynedd Wales is a ridiculous place
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:44 AM
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well well well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:41 AM
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I think you might have some unintended blinders about an issue that doesn't really affect you, which is normal. I see it all the time. But on the other hand, I'm probably hyper aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:38 AM
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Let us imagine a scenario where jahejwjsnsna hshsb nakakan nzkzksk ma. Jsbajaizn jzjan kalwlwpsjn jsjau. Nakkaman ksjusb sjzkklal jz sjsj jzisis nzn. Jzjsjsb jzj jzjwb nkski znzj ms kzozokwk. 👆That scenario bears about as much resemblance to reality as whatever Gilead fantasy OP is spewing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:35 AM
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Women have consistently asked me really insulting questions on dates and acted like it was a completely normal thing to say. You might be autistic. There's a whole social subtext behind the "are you a serial killer" question which most people understand but sounds exactly like the kind of thing someone neurospicy would fail to pick up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:31 AM
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Advice (on any subject) from anyone who is religious can always be immediately disregarded. On top of that, almost every parent gives terrible advice to their children, so you can ignore that too. Given that context, I think our view of women as paranoid makes a little more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:57 AM
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I am BEGGING the medical community to make a pill that gives women reliable orgasms from piv sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:45 AM
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I feel like I've been hitting this theme a lot lately, but I would have women clearly and honestly state what they want in a guy, and stop pretending that what they want is what all women want (and the converse, what they find unattractive is universally unattractive). I think a lot of men's problems in the dating world is because we feel lied to. Women told us to never approach, to work on ourselves, that the right relationship would come along. Women told us to be in tune with our emotions, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:38 AM
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Top 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:29 AM
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Dear neurodivergent people: please stop assuming literally everything is about neurodivergent vs neurotypical
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:10 PM
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Yeah, I would love to go to 3rd spaces but I work such long hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:53 PM
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You think that's perverse, check out romantasy Women are FREAKS and they're too scared to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:45 AM
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I dated a single mother who was just very attractive, rather than "ridiculous supermodel level" attractive. As long as it's clear I have no intention of being a dad, and we're keeping it relatively casual, it's all good. However, I have one friend who has 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a kid, and I've stopped talking or hanging out with her much because she's always shouting at one of them to stop doing something. Shit's super annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:43 AM
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Men are not entitled to women. I'm at the point where if anyone says this, I know the whole comment will probably lower my iq if I read it, so thanks for the heads up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:50 AM
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Better to be ugly than "toxic" or "creepy" or whatever. Ugly is just a physical condition and maybe we can work on it. Women are out here casting moral judgment and that's so much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:49 AM
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If you're suggesting that women should have uniform preferences when dating Absolutely not. I'm saying you CANNOT, logically: keep silent (give tacit approval) when another woman says what men should do, and be pissed off when men do that instead of whatever it is you want If women were going around saying "Here's what I, an individual, would like, but other women may differ" then there would be no issue. The problem is women are going around saying "here's what WOMEN like" and the rest of you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:41 AM
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I want women to be stronger than men Pick me up and carry me home babe🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:11 PM
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Cincinnatus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:08 PM
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You're both idiots. Misogynists believe women can do no wrong because of the whole Madonna-whore thing. Feminists believe women can do no wrong because girl power. Stop blaming each other and recognize that you're both part of the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:05 PM
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In the Year of Our Lord 2025, everything is rape
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:02 PM
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Offer her the chance to be your Cavalier
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:00 PM
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Unequal in other areas?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:56 PM
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I think part of the problem that you're experiencing is collapsing all women into one voice. We are individuals with individual preferences. If women would call each other out more, that would be easier. When one group of women is telling us one thing, the other group who wants us to do something completely different is totally silent. Men argue with each other all the time, it's really clear we're not a monolith. But women who want thing A will be silent while other women tell us to do thing B.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:32 PM
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It's impossible to keep up because we're being told to run in opposite directions simultaneously. Be in tune with your emotions, but it makes me uncomfortable when you display emotion. Be respectful and don't approach, but also I'll go home with you if you're a jerk to me. Build community and don't be so solitary, but keep your problems out of my life. The fundamental problem is that women are LYING when they say WHICH skills they are looking for. The truth is, women by and large want male frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:16 AM
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It makes me think that someone is gay and in denial🤣 "Men are so perfect, so much better than women, women are gross, men are so strong and brave and tall and handsome🥺"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:10 AM
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Everyone should pay reparations to me, specifically, because I'm cute and I deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:04 AM
2

Until they're not lol. Historically, revolutions start when there's a lot of single, sexless, broke, and poorly educated men. Ring any bells?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:02 AM
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Blurst
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:24 AM
5

Thanks for asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:41 AM
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The message needs to be clear and understandable. What was your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:41 AM
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Recognize that the struggles which men face are not a men's problem but a societal problem and one that we need to fix together. The vast majority of the time, when men bring up systemic issues the response from women is "that's not my problem, men should figure their own shit out". Just a complete lack of empathy or concern. We can't get into the specifics of how women should help when the vast majority of women have no interest in helping. That's what I mean by giving a shit. Just show concern…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:39 AM
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I strongly disagree. Women here are willing to engage. Try dropping a truth bomb anywhere else and you'll get blocked and/or banned in a heartbeat. Whether they agree or disagree, the first step is actually having the conversation, and you can't get that elsewhere on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:55 AM
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I keep saying this. Don't hate the women. Hate the system. Women in the dating market are just doing what any man would do if the situation was reversed. Women are not evil, they're just fortunate (in that respect, specifically, not life in general necessarily). This is why red pill is and always will be stupid. It correctly identifies the symptoms (which blue pill refuses to see), but totally fucks up the diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:52 AM
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Statistically, you should have a neutral opinion of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:49 AM
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Communication requires a sender and a receiver. If the message is sent loud and clear, but you're not picking it up, well 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:46 AM
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If a person is unhappy with their dating life And their standards are objectively unrealistically high It's really really obvious that they'd almost certainly be happier if they had more realistic standards. You don't need to personally know someone to deduce that. It's not rocket surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:36 AM
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Bravo. Perfect. No notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:32 AM
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That gap is there and I don't know how to close it. The only thing I can think of is that women have to start giving a shit about men. Men in Western nations spent about 20 years giving a shit about women's issues and putting in work to reduce inequality. Not all men, but it was absolutely the dominant cultural zeitgeist in the 90s and 2000s and the early 2010s. Women never reciprocated. So in the mid 2010s men stopped giving a shit about women's issues, and it's just been getting worse ever sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:30 AM
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The problem is the outsize focus on attraction vs compatibility. It's why so many women end up with men they were initially attracted to but have grown to resent. And it's why "settling" exists, older women realize they should have de-prioritized attraction amd focused more on compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:19 AM
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Shaming women has been fantastically successful for religion for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:17 AM
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There's a ton of them when you get away from incel spaces. Might even be a majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:15 AM
1

I haven't seen these posts? Got any links?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:37 PM
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Specifically the "where were they when I was in school" type comments. Also sometimes the "I'd risk it" type comments. I think the fantasy is, he's a dark and dangerous man but he's kind and respectful to her specifically while still being dominant in bed. Pretty common, despite what Zoomers claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:33 PM
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It's interesting conversation 🤷 I don't believe women are naturally more moral than men. Women get horny for hot dudes, predator or no. Especially young hormonal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:22 PM
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I have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:38 AM
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I think you misunderstand. I don't care if she wants to do the homemaker thing. If she does, it's solely for her benefit and I won't contribute much. I'd probably be a better fit with a messy woman who doesn't care about keeping a traditional picture perfect home. And I'm not looking for a partner because I'm choosing to not spend my energy on that right now. I have close friends who give me emotional validation, mainly what's missing from my life right now is sex. The additional income of a fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:30 AM
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It varies so much depending on location, it's difficult to say. $300k is successful almost anywhere, but $100k is successful in Idaho and $50k is successful in India.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:55 AM
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Then it is not about sex at all, it's about validation and ego. Yes! Absolutely! You get it! Don't you think that's sad? Kind of yeah, but that's humanity for you. Most people are like that. It's almost impossible to develop a healthy sense of self esteem from scratch. You need a measure of external validation, which men are SEVERELY lacking in, and women have in such abundance they barely notice it's even a need. No one tells men they're pretty. No one tells men they're desirable. It absolutely…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:53 AM
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I'm not looking for a partner, does that count? I suppose if I had to pick, I'd want someone who can contribute financially - not at the same level as me per se but someone who is financially adding to the household instead of being another person to split my income with. So for example, I make over $200k, I'd be looking for a partner who makes around $100k and up. EDIT: I'm fine if she makes as much or more than me, I've just got a lower bound. I have no interest in children, so I'd want a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:47 AM
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But why the fuck would I? If you're starving, you'll eat anything. People's emotional needs aren't met by having sex. Sex is nice and physically feels good (or at least it should if your partner is any good). But the emotional need is met by having access to sex. Knowing someone desires you. Even if it's not anyone you know personally. Even if you never actually have sex. Just knowing that you could, if you wanted to, changes the entire dynamic. You can see this when you talk to truly ugly undes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:30 AM
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I moved around a lot, went to 3 different middle and high schools. It was happening in each of those, and in every high school all of my friends went to. People's sexual desire doesn't magically appear at age 21, teenagers are horny mofos. And once they become adults, they still remember the teenage crushes they had on older people. Every single one of my friends, male or female, remembers lusting after an older person when they were teens. We went through a period of discussing them a couple ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:00 AM
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There's not a lot of them, or at least not a lot who get caught. When you were in school, weren't there a couple of male teachers all the girls were thirsting after? I feel like that's pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:50 AM
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Very trusted friends, verbally, in person. Usually women will put feelers out. Show them a pic of a hot male sex offender and instead of going "oh my god that's disgusting" they'll say something neutral like "wow" or "he reminds me of so-and-so" and if the response is also neutral or slightly suggestive then they'll start getting thirsty. Or on anonymous media, but there's not much of that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:38 AM
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I think it probably was a thing in the 80s, and then it just became a trope that feminists trot out long after it died.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:33 AM
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Girls say that shit too about hot male predators, they just keep it quiet. Usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:32 AM
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I always have the ‘option’ of letting some guy try to live out his porn fantasy without being terribly concerned about me. Yes, you do, and if you didn't then you'd be much more stressed out about not having it. Like men are. Since it's always available to you, you take it for granted, and raise your standards. But if sex was really difficult for you to get at all, you'd lower your standards from "I want good, meaningful sex" to "I'll take whatever I can get".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:07 AM
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Well, first of all there are things that my female friends ask which my male friends don't. Men don't ask for help as much as women. And there's the strength/height stuff that some of my female friends just aren't able to do. Aside from that, platonic physical touch. I'll cuddle with female friends, sleep in the same bed, etc when it would feel weird to do that with a guy. I won't do something for a friend (male or female) that they're perfectly capable of doing themselves. I'm not your butler. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:19 AM
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Unless the women are religious, which globally is most women. Religion is extremely sexually repressive. Most women in rural places are not walking around with big body counts. I understand most red pillers don't even think about those women, but it's important to remember they're actually the majority, even if they are completely out of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:53 AM
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But most of them have the option, which drastically changes the dynamic. It's always there if you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:48 AM
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Men should get better at giving women good sexual experiences. Unfortunately, the only real way to do this is to have more sex, which women aren't jazzed about because the experience isn't all that great for them. It's a self-reinforcing negative cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:42 AM
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So lesbian sex with a strapon is actually straight sex? I've got some very confused women to talk to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:53 PM
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Sure it is. Poor people mad because some people are born into rich families. Disabled people mad because they're not healthy. The world is unfair, and it's natural to be frustrated about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:34 PM
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I mean...yeah. It's not helpful, it's not even really her fault, she was just born with a pussy. But it's still reasonable to be angry that someone else is easily able to achieve what you have to work really hard for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:12 AM
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I live in California, where most women end up with brown guys. Because there's more brown guys than white guys. It's just population statistics. I think non white dudes have an inferiority complex when it comes to dating that isn't really justified by what I see from women's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:58 AM
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Man who won the lottery claiming that poor people choose to be poor. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:58 AM
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Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:54 PM
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Most men WOULD if they COULD.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:48 PM
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I've never tried🤷 I'll report back tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:01 PM
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Widely available and socially accepted drugs that ensure women receive an orgasm as easily as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:56 PM
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If your central philosophy is that women are terrible, sexual assault tends to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:52 PM
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I've failed at getting any work done, but I'm at least getting schoolwork done. So, meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:51 PM
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Grabbing someone's ass is inherently sexual and it's crazy to suggest otherwise. It's a gendered thing in that for the majority of female friend groups, touching is ok, and for the majority of male friend groups, touching is not ok, and in almost every single friend group, men touching women is not ok. So it's a social dynamics thing but given the consistent trends across most groups, it's also a gender thing in aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:49 PM
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Maybe they're just moving too quickly into "hey, wanna fuck?" I dunno, every time I've approached, if she's not into it she'll find a way to subtly let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:45 PM
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I think y'all are talking past each other. You said it's easier for you to find sex on a dating app than it is for you to find sex irl. They thought you meant it's easier for you to find sex on a dating app than it is for a man to find sex on a dating app. So now they're bitching about how a lot of women claim that it's equally difficult for men and women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:43 PM
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This is an excellent and succinct way of putting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:36 PM
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If she doesn't say anything she's in the wrong, not the group. This is assuming you're ok with the default paradigm that it's ok when women do it. I'm undecided personally, but OP's stance that no one, male or female, should ever sexually touch someone without enthusiastic consent is a reasonable take.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:33 PM
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Pretending that slapping a woman's ass is completely devoid of sexual context and therefore perfectly ok is a disingenuous defense of a double standard. It's obviously ridiculous. Just own the double standard, women. OP, the reality is that it's seen as ok when women do it. Yes, that's a double standard. But you can't expect people to all of a sudden act differently from everyone around them. It's unrealistic to expect that every random woman will respect consent. They've never had to before, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:28 PM
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Listen, you're being reasonable here. But it's NOT UNREASONABLE for a woman to look around her, see that women touching other women is generally ok, and assume it's generally ok for her to touch other women. That's the reality of society now. If you're not cool with it, you have to speak up. If enough people speak up, society changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:15 PM
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She does take offense. She's just too timid to say anything in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:10 PM
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He said in a comment that his gf didn't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:04 PM
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US west coast here. I've got a friend who used to be full time Uber driver. She said Men are the scariest, because of the implication (what they say and how they act) Women are the touchiest She never had a man actually violate her physical space, but women would touch her and grab her all the time. Always drunk women. But it was more annoying than scary. The men were scary because if they ever DID violate her personal space, she wasn't sure she could get them to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:23 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:13 PM
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I don't mind if the anxiety is directed at something other than me. I dated a girl for a while who is fairly socially anxious (genX so we just call this "shy"). But I didn't make her anxious, I was a comfort to her when whatever she was working herself up about got to be too much. She could trust me to steady her. That was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:12 PM
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You should be nice to people because it's the right thing to do, wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:09 PM
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I keep telling all these redpill dudes - if you had hundreds of random women ready and willing to offer you sex from the time you were 14, would you really act any differently than these women you so hate? You'd fuck around, a lot. You'd get frustrated and resentful at all these women demanding sex from you when there's only so much dick to go around. You'd get scared at the women stalking you and threatening you. Eventually you'd decide you want a relationship, not just a series of quick fucks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:07 PM
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Not quite. Redpill theory says that women have this evil master life plan to fuck a ton of guys when young and then find a betabux to leech off of when she gets older. Redpill is correct that this is the typical outcome. Redpill is wrong in assuming this was planned by the woman all along. Women don't do this on purpose. It's human nature when presented with infinite choice of something you really like - you gorge yourself until you learn the side effects aren't worth it to keep doing it forever…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:03 PM
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It's called puberty lol After puberty most people get sexual desire. Some of these people have a high libido. Some of these high libido people act on it. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:08 AM
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Maybe but with Trump in charge it certainly wouldn't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:07 AM
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either Russian women are truly desperate because of certain reasons Maybe because of the recent losses of a large amount of the male population? At least a million men killed/deployed right now in Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:02 AM
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We're talking about putting effort into conversation, please read the context of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:09 AM
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"Up front" doesn't mean "literally the first thing you say to a stranger". That's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:00 PM
2

Same shit, don't care I'd pick the rich working girl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:58 PM
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-Explains that their financial situation can't really accommodate a baby Fine -Says he's just too busy for a baby Fine -Implies that taking time off on maternity leave will hurt her career Fine -Convinces her friends and family to pressure her to abort Not cool. Definitely manipulation. -Attempts to make her feel guilty and that it will "ruin his life" Manipulation if done on purpose. Fine if he truly does believe it will ruin his life. -Threatens to move away and go completely non-contact if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:33 PM
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It's fun to read about when women become betabux occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:25 PM
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He meant bring a gun
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:24 PM
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I'm not Indian so idgaf about caste or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:23 PM
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Also, there's a difference between your answer in a random scenario and what you'd actually pick if I put a bear and some random dude in front of you. Which again, goes back to the loss of respect due to stupidity... I didn't see any women defending choosing the man. If that's an algorithm, that's one HELL of an algorithm. Almost every single woman I've ever seen make a choice chooses the bear. If it was just a few screeching randos, it wouldn't be a problem. It was the breadth of the anti-male …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:12 PM
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Realizing that women are willing to insult all of men despite knowing that the great majority of men are not rapists and abusers. That's what made me lose respect. Especially because when called out, they double down on their sexist generalizations. Plus of course the side knowledge of how absolutely stupid it is if you take the scenario literally to pick the bear. That lost respect from me because I didn't think that many women were that dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:06 AM
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If I were to tell a woman "all women are gold-digging whores", even if what I actually meant was that I feel like there's an unfair expectation placed on men to be providers, it would still be an objectively sexist and insulting thing to say. You can't insult an entire gender and then excuse it by saying you don't mean it literally. I know what women mean when they say they pick the bear. It's still incredibly insulting and sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:02 AM
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I don't. I'm only on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:59 AM
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The man vs bear thing really exposed that it wasn't just a vocal minority, it was a large proportion of women (probably a majority) who are both sexist and stupid. It significantly lowered my respect for women. That being said, are you really surprised that women who bash men online are toxic and sexist? People are assholes, and that's not limited to men. These women and redpill men are two sides of the same shitty coin. I'm not disagreeing with your conclusions, just disagreeing that there's an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:26 AM
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Social media is full of toxic PEOPLE. They all suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:15 AM
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that’s simply me ripping the consequences of my own actions and learning the price of not being honest. Very few women will ever accept the consequences of this kind of action. They will usually blame the man for not knowing what she really wants. That is due to the type of conditioning women receive whether they realize it or not, where it’s about being subservient Agreed, and it sucks and I hate that we as a society mentally fuck with girls so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:59 AM
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Yeah I think that's the majority. I feel the same way sometimes, but I know it's unfair to blame women for the way society works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:37 PM
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From what I've seen, they are. They dislike high count men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:18 PM
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I think it's a mix. Trad men are more likely to dislike high body count due to morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:59 PM
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I think it's perfectly fine for them to go on dates. You shouldn't have to be a monk until you've figured out your whole life. Dating might give you the perspective you need to find out what you want. But I agree that it's also fair for people to reject them for not knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:52 PM
2

Same, nothing worse than a giant monowall of text.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:16 PM
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I disagree. Some people don't know, and that's fine. Maybe we'll figure it out together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:14 PM
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Might be autocorrect, but it's "bearer of bad news", not burden
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:12 PM
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I didn't say anything about morality, I was just explaining why women fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:52 PM
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Wouldn't everyone, if such a thing existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:43 PM
2

What did you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:34 PM
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Would that be such a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:33 PM
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Yes but it's still not relevant to the non-college world. Hookups are easy, relationships are rare, it's bizarro land.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:31 PM
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Some of them were. I've had hookups, fwb, committed relationships, platonic female friends, the whole gamut.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:29 PM
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Usually we split 50/50. Sometimes I pay. A long time ago, when I was much more attractive and much more broke, the women would usually pay. More recently, when I was in a relationship, we usually traded off paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:53 PM
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Why would women be interested in that? For generations, feminism alone, without substantial male help, has solved female problems. Why change what works? Many of the biggest challenges women face now can still be solved with legislation. Feminists have spent a VERY long time without any men at the table, and with a fair amount of bitterness at their absence. Why should feminism entertain men now? Men are the absent father strolling into town after 15 years of no child support, demanding parental…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:50 PM
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Sure and that's fine. I was just giving my criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:28 PM
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True, but also, women should be honest with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:44 AM
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I have a theory that if men had the same opportunities for multiple hookups when young, men would be more willing to enter relationships when older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:32 AM
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Gross, touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:30 AM
2

Affect and effect are sneaky like that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:20 AM
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They tend to find relationships, and are thus not in the dating mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:19 AM
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I guess the point OP was making is that if women have zero sympathy for men who want to live out porn fantasies, men should have zero sympathy for women who want to live out romance fantasies. So everyone just lies to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:43 AM
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I haven't dated in like 5 years, but in my experience it's the rare woman who puts any sort of effort in, either on apps or irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:58 AM
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For average women, while it's much much easier to sleep with a hot guy than it is for an average guy to sleep with a hot girl, it's definitely not a done deal. Sometimes, average guys are all that's available. More importantly, women do want relationships. So sometimes they'll fall for the lie that a guy is really into her when all he wants is sex, because she's desperate for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:46 AM
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Man wants sex. Woman wants relationship. Man lies about commitment to get sex. Woman lies about attraction to get relationship. Tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:43 AM
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Statistically, most women don't have casual sex. They're just usually not part of these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:42 AM
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Effect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:40 AM
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I feel like we should exempt college from all discussions about casual sex. The whole environment is so anomalous compared to the literal rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:39 AM
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Vanishingly small proportion of single women though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:23 AM
1

I don't use other social media. But I'll frequently see screenshots of tumblr or Instagram or whatever where women are complaining about men approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:18 AM
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It's an occurrence pretty frequently posted by men. Next time I see one, I'll link it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:16 AM
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That's just everyone all the time, with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:47 AM
3

You make a good point about policy. Tiktokers rarely dictate actual policy changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:47 AM
4

Low likelihood, high consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:46 AM
0

Men they're not interested in approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:01 AM
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They’re speaking for themselves, not issuing some universal commandment. That's not remotely true. Women couch their personal preferences as universal rules all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:58 AM
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That's what men need to learn: whenever a woman tells you what she wants or what her preferences are, just tune her out. Women lie, a lot, especially to themselves, even in anonymous forums. Don't bother listening. Approach when it's appropriate, respect the "no", and accept the risk of some unhinged bitch trying to ruin your life for tiktok views
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:32 AM
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Impotent frustrated noises in the soundproof walls of ivory towers aren't helping much. You want to reclaim feminism, you gotta go loud. I think and hope we're building towards a fracturing of mainstream feminism which will allow feminists to criticize other feminists in public. The 2024 election should have been a come-to-Jesus moment for all leftist spaces about the dangers of alienating men, but so far there hasn't really been any serious self-reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:28 AM
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Feminism isn't a completely unified ideology, but I think that's the majority opinion, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:20 AM
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This clearly shows there is motion on this problem. The motion is backwards. Abortion used to be available in the whole US. That's part of why feminism is still needed: the risk of losing what was previously gained.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:16 AM
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Well then you're just a bigot. What's wrong with being transgender? Why is anyone else's gender any of your business?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:08 AM
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Gender essentialism is completely at odds with feminism, so there's not much point debating it. The two ideologies disagree about fundamental truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:01 AM
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Men are labeled as allies and seen as secondary because they haven't put in the work to be equal compatriots in taking down gender norms. There's no good male counterpart to feminism, maybe the men's rights movement but it's riddled with misogynists. Men haven't put in the work like women have for generations. And then men want to show up and demand an equal spot at the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:59 AM
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For me, the failing of feminism as a movement is that it never polices its own members. Self-proclaimed feminist: says hateful, misandrist shit Other feminists: crickets A bad apple spoils the bunch. I feel like feminism has girl-powered its way into being co-opted by the most hateful elements. I will never respect feminism until feminists start calling out other feminists. Even if they're the minority, they need to be expelled. Same with the Mens Rights movement btw, though I feel men are more …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:54 AM
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It's the same branding trap as anything else. Feminism is a HUGE brand. You can't just abandon that. But the name itself is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:58 PM
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I agree with you, but to play the devil's advocate: modern feminist will say that this is feminism. Feminism comes in waves, and there is no need for a wave of women to march demanding suffrage, or the right to divorce abusive husbands. Feminism has grown to address the needs of the modern era, including dismantling harmful gender norms. The word for these gender norms and the structure that put them into place is the patriarchy. The patriarchy does not mean "men". It means the harmful social no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:40 PM
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For me, dating is a hookup that keeps going. I don't like women who categorize them differently. First and foremost I want a woman who's attracted to me. That's a baseline requirement. Not that she finds me nice or funny or smart or that she feels comfortable around me or respects my accomplishments. All of that is stuff I can get from friends. Sexual desire has to be there first and foremost in order for the relationship to become anything at all. If we then also vibe on a personal level, it ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:13 PM
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For me personally, yeah. I don't think that's universally true, but it is for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:04 PM
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...which is a vanishingly small proportion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:54 PM
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True. But I'm like, actually unaware. I'm not sure how I would learn unless I initiate that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:23 AM
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Q4M: would you let a moderately attractive woman who isn't particularly attracted to you move in with you in exchange for sexual favors, assuming she passed a background check?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:59 AM
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You just made me realize, I actually have no idea what people assume about me, because I don't really care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:56 AM
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but a lot of men have a fetish for a part of my body Ooh girl, show me them ELBOWS. Fuck yeah, I love me a good set of elbows
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:52 AM
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Women have problems with finding quality, not quantity. Men have problems with finding both quality and quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:50 AM
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Respecting women will not get you laid. However, you should do it anyway because that's what good people do. This dichotomy is what is really causing issues among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:49 AM
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Sexual desire exists in women as well. And when it becomes difficult to fulfill (even from an undesirable man), women will compete for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:13 PM
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I feel like it's a common tune, when women do something, encounter something, it's all on them, personally. Complete sidebar, if you feel like discussing it: I don't think I've ever seen society impose this attitude on women (except for incel men, who blame everything on women and can thus be ignored). I have however seen a lot of women impose this idea on themselves, even in defiance of society. It's a common trope that after a breakup, a woman goes to her friend group and says "what did I do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:37 PM
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Women don't need to compete to find a man romantically or sexually interested in her. Women DO compete for the relatively few men with a combination of desirable traits. I'm saying in this hypothetical, that system would collapse and women would begin valuing other traits and expanding what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:42 PM
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Insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:51 PM
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Asexual people who think that desire is a choice will also always be funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:49 PM
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I already covered this. Do you see her as a person who happens to be Asian? Or do you see her exclusively as an Asian - with all your chosen stereotypes about Asians? The depersonalization is what makes fetishism. Why do you like Asian women? If it's a visual preference, that's just having preferences. If it's because you believe Asian women act a certain way and have a certain set of values, that's probably fetishization.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:49 PM
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Gay people who think that being gay is a choice will always be funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:09 AM
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Bro I've been saying this for a while, media talks about AI girlfriends but I've only really seen AI boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:07 AM
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To some degree, sex is a skill. Sleep around a lot and get feedback so you can fuck better. Then you'll be more likely to be a woman's best lay. Women also want different things in bed. What one woman thinks is the greatest finishing move ever will be "meh" to another woman. So again, sleep around until you find a woman who is into what you do best. And then biology matters too. I was with a woman where the shape of my dick and the shape of her pussy just matched up perfectly, maybe I was hittin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:02 AM
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Found the guy who's never eaten a mango.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:56 AM
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It's not gaslighting, just sexism and narcissism. "What really matters is what women think matters, what men feel is irrelevant."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:55 AM
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Not just sexual appetite, but also romantic appetite. And I'm saying that all the other things will be revealed as relatively unimportant the moment women need to compete for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:22 AM
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My comment literally doesn't say anything like that, what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:20 AM
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Yeah, but that's because white women seek them out. They're not going around saying "I'm going to only date white women because they're easy". Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:13 AM
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That's just regular everyday bias about people you don't know, not fetishization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:43 PM
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Ok when I say "see" I don't mean literally with your eyeballs. I mean you mentally categorize her as a being with the label "Asian female" rather than "human person who happens to be Asian and happens to be female".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:15 PM
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That's the world's biggest "if".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:03 PM
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Eh, in OP's hypothetical scenario, if the gender demographics of the country change such that women significantly outnumber men, I think you'll see the opposite. All things being equal, women are valuable and men not. But when your entire nation is a taco party, men become valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:01 PM
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I think it's more common than you think. When you see a woman first and foremost as "Asian woman" instead of "person", that's probably fetishization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:58 PM
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I think you're referring to kink, not fetishization. But fetishizing doesn't necessarily have to have a sexual component.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:55 PM
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it paints white men in a positive, highly masculine light. No way, it's the exact opposite. White men going after Asian women is like turning down the difficulty on a game because you can't handle it on hard mode. People aren't jealous, they're contemptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:53 PM
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No, they're talking about actual fetishization, which is a big thing especially between whites and Asians. Not just a physical preference, which is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:27 PM
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That's just impractical. No one has ever solved anything by just saying "be better". But society enforces a lot of rules by saying "do this or we'll shun you".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:12 PM
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You think abusers and manipulators are going to abide by that? For it to work it needs a social shame component.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:33 PM
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I was just making a general comment about the frequent misunderstandings, not this topic in particular. I've seen similar exchanges a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:58 PM
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No, just most of the time. I guess my statement was more definitive sounding than I intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:56 PM
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I think relationships between people of different ages have so many variables it's almost impossible to say for certain that this age gap is always fine and that age gap is always bad. Ages of consent are a best-guess compromise. There will be some people above and below any arbitrary age who are or are not mature enough to be in a relationship. However, statistically, the odds increase as the gap widens, especially when one person is on the lower end. I think we should reframe the age gap argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:53 PM
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The age of consent is 16 in some places, would talking about having sex with a 16 year old really get you banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:45 PM
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Often, moral panics aren't "pushed" by anyone, they're just a form of group hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:42 PM
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In my area I never see teenagers outside of the mall and college and public transit. I'd probably have to seek them out to just randomly encounter them. But it sounds like that's not the case in your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:40 PM
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Schroedingers relationship: it's either serious or not serious depending on whether it needs to be for you to win the argument At the start of all PPD debates, everyone should clarify when they're talking about a serious vs casual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:38 PM
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Guys value far less the deep spiritual intellectual connection so long as she's fun to be around and can carry a conversation Ain't no 18 year old girl able to carry a conversation. Have you ever tried talking to teenagers? It's painful. They're weird and awkward and dumb and we don't get each other's references.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:36 PM
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Women don't need to make that argument, they're already accepted for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:33 PM
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Dual-wielding shooting at both sides. Just own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:51 PM
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Bobs and vegana
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:48 PM
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Cheatception
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:47 PM
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You know what, that's a fair criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:46 PM
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What a shit set of options But that being said, to hell with Russia in any and all forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:45 PM
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Every "ask women" sub: "ask your questions of women here!" That sub, as soon as you ask a question: "how FUCKING DARE you exist in my world"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:42 PM
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Of the US. Maybe India, I have no idea what it's like there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:13 AM
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That feeling when I'm arguing with a misandrist and a misogynist tries to back me up 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:11 AM
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Move to the South
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:03 AM
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Become an alcoholic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:00 AM
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Not really More is better, but I'm okay with a lower number too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:55 AM
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You and me on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:20 AM
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Most people have no problem with amoral things in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:11 AM
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No 2nd date for you then I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:05 AM
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Why the hell would I want to pour that much time and attention to someone who is being a dick to me? I'd rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:54 AM
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the amoral nature of our own sexuality Yeah buddy you need to take about 50 steps back and figure this broken part of your psyche out before worrying about anything anyone else does
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:52 AM
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I feel like a lot of the more prolific ppd users are trauma bonded from being unable to express their extreme views anywhere else that isn't an echo chamber. It's an interesting place. Hard-core fringe opinions are more accepted from your counterparts on the opposite fringe, because they believe that secretly all men/women believe things like that. Someone can show up here and say some insane thing like "women who don't put out are a drag on society and should be deported" and will get responses…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:45 AM
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Well that's got a simple solution. Just tell your gf that maybe if she was as hot as your sister, you'd buy her a new phone, too. That should solve everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:38 AM
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You should get a bf so you can tell them everything all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:37 AM
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I need cuddles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:31 AM
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I want a woman who is attracted to me 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:29 AM
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Because they don’t hold their own accountable Every man is friends with every other man and explicitly advocates for everything every other man does, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:24 AM
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Women will almost always support the advancement of women over the advancement of equality, when the two things conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:15 AM
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On the other hand, most of us would agree that to equate a victim of violent rape and a man who engages in a drunken sexual act he wouldn’t have chosen when sober is to trivialize a terrible crime. Sounds suspiciously like the "20 minutes of action" defense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:24 PM
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If you've never seen women call a man boring but have seen a lot of violent men, that probably says more about where you are socioeconomically than anything about men and women in general. but I think there is a disconnect where women use "excitement" to mean sexual chemistry... but guys seem to think it means having "cool guy hobbies" like a motorcycle or playing in a band. 100% agreed. Women want to be sexually excited by a guy. Having cool hobbies is just window dressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:19 PM
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Women can’t give sex Willy nilly even if they wanted to, it’s somewhat biologically impossible without her damaging either her psyche or body Skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:14 PM
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I love that video. Sorry about how shit your life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:11 PM
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Yes. Lots of women would rather date a broke janitor than a rich software engineer. It's got the reputation of being one of the most repulsive careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:55 PM
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I think it's gone from bad to a different kind of bad. If all women care about is money, that's bad. If all women care about is looks, that's also bad. Note: I actually disagree with both views. Attraction is too complicated to boil it down to "women only care about x".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:54 PM
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Jesus. She ended up working harder to avoid having a job than she would have worked if she'd just got a fucking job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:38 PM
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Most of us have trouble threading the needle between "he's not going to hurt me" and "he's boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:35 PM
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Money doesn't impress poor ghetto women The hell it doesn't lol what are you smoking? Have you ever met a poor ghetto woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:33 PM
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Do you DISPLAY wealth? I make a lot of money but I live like I'm poor, so I'm just as invisible to women as average looking poor men. Women won't magically know you have money if you don't flaunt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:23 PM
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For all of Chad's many virtues, intelligence is not one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:04 PM
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Cops call me "sir"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:46 PM
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Norgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:43 PM
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Sleeeeep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:39 PM
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https://imgflip.com/i/ackxu8 I'm going to press x to doubt your blanket assertion that "rich guys love that shit" Sure, not all rich guys are like that. And I very specifically said they like that shit, not love it. It's validating. People like being validated, whether it's for looks or money or skill or anything. It's good for your mental health, in moderation. To continue your (actually very good) analogy, rich guys will get tired of gold diggers. They will complain, they will say they want no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:37 PM
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Imagine women threw themselves at you in order to gain access to your wallet. Rich guys like that shit. It's validating. No, it's not nearly as good as a woman liking you for being you, it's not even in the same ballpark. But it's nice. Men here themselves have frequently said Don't make me tap the sign
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:16 AM
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guys here literally say they only care if she's good looking and agreeable Yeah, those are the only pre-requirements to begin dating a woman. That's what guys mean when they say that. Not "she's polite, guess I'll wife her" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:02 AM
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and mark this is yet another example of women saying this out-loud as a non-sequitur but wouldn't have the BALLS to say this to their man's face Because then her piggy bank will leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:58 AM
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Might have to give girls a shot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:56 AM
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They'll lose it all on nursing care. That shit is so ridiculously expensive even boomers can't afford it. And their children won't help them, because boomers are horrendous douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:55 AM
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You acknowledge that men and women have an equally difficult time getting a relationship Well first of all, no I didn't. I actually said it's more difficult for men, overall. IT. ISN'T. SEXUAL. VALIDATION. I. Don't. Believe. You. Sure, men and women have vastly different contexts to look at sex, no argument there. But if you look at literally any part of modern life for half a second you'll see that women in general really appreciate attention and validation. Most women get plenty of it, many wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:52 AM
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Yeah, I'm just asking why not. Women will give up time and money for other causes, but won't be inconvenienced for this one. It seems strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:40 AM
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Can you give an example of what you consider a shitty dating take? The classic one is "all men are trash", ie a girl is mad at one man and decides to insult the entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:38 AM
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lol no, you really think NT men are out here getting girls that easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:35 AM
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You can add a man into that mix. My gf literally would tell me about her turkey sandwich - this conversation happened multiple times! She loves turkey sandwiches - and I was fascinated every time. Sometimes I would zone out and get stuck in a loop of "I love hearing her talk, she's so amazing" and miss the actual words she's saying, to be fair. Love does that. She could count to a thousand and she'd have my rapt attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:34 AM
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I think their skewed perspective is based on the fact that there’s a higher chance that a random, “average” guy will have to put in a lot more effort into finding both a sexual partner and someone who actively wants to be in a relationship with them. Bingo. I really have a difficult time sympathizing with women who complain about how difficult it is to find a relationship. It's just as difficult for men to find a decent woman, except a woman can test out a lot of men much more quickly than a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:27 AM
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Good, then you're already doing most of what any reasonable person could ask the average woman to do. Thank you, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:07 AM
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I know. But still, the question was asked and answered. Honest question - a lot of women will donate time and money to help oppressed peoples, the environment, education, any number of things, when it doesn't personally benefit them. Why is helping men so different? How come when it comes to men, women need to see personal benefit before helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:05 AM
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Apps are a lost cause for guys, there's no fixing that unless the apps themselves change their algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:53 AM
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Well, I guess more accurately men either care about all women or think they're all bitches. Women care about high status men and think the rest are bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:48 AM
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YAAS QUEEN
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:46 AM
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I think that if men in general had the sexual power that women do, they'd be doing the exact same thing. Women aren't shitty. People are shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:45 AM
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Well, if you're serious approach men get off dating apps and meet men in real life 3rd spaces (if you're not dating, encourage other women who are dating to do the above) call out women with shitty dating takes (no, it's not okay just because she's "venting") be open to making friends with unattractive men and trying to help them get dates, despite the fact that they probably want to fuck you speak about men's issues as though they're valid and it's something that society should be working to fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:43 AM
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I work with all straight men. We've had some "totally joking...unless" convos about marrying each other just to be able to finally afford a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:49 PM
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I think a lot of oppressed people go through that process. It's human nature. When you're oppressed, all you can think about is ending the oppression. When you're hungry, all you can think about is the next meal. When you're poor, all you can think about is getting money. It's hard to conceptualize that once the dog finally catches the car, he still won't be fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:45 PM
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The US is half a Christian ethnofascist death cult nowadays, they don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:39 PM
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Funny enough, this is why I think long-term, the US will beat the pants out of China and every other nation if it can just hold together. As a nation of immigrants, the US doesn't need to fear declining birth rates; it can easily import as many new people as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:16 PM
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Theoretically, is there a point where it would cause so much societal harm that things would change somehow? Let's say hypothetically if the mass of angry single men didn't do what masses of angry single men have always done in history. Would women be forced to change their approach eventually? Would we see a massive uptick in lesbian relationships? Would population growth drop off a clip since everyone is single now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:01 PM
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The law generally recognizes the difference between a person and a clump of cells as whether it's a viable human being outside the womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:53 PM
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If you don't know how male sexual organs work, you might not be old enough to be on this website.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:21 AM
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As God intended
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:20 AM
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Porno for Pyros - Pets
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:34 AM
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Reporting is for cowards
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:32 AM
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My mom has neuropathy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:30 AM
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But that's what I'm saying, it takes more skill to please women than it does to please men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:17 AM
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Let's go with "attractive" then. I'd argue that being attractive is more important than being good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:30 AM
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Fucking a hole is all that's needed to get off for men. Pleasing a woman is a skill that takes study and practice. They should teach it in uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:27 AM
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Yes, because I'm a slut for shrimp and guac tacos Edit: men only want one thing and it's delicious
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:09 AM
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Is that your way of conceding the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:07 AM
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Sure but then it's still not society catering to women. It's greedy women forcing a change on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:34 AM
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That's ridiculous. People without power can seize power. Or have it irrevocably granted to them. It happens all the time between different social and ethnic groups, it just didn't happen much for women until the 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:28 AM
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I'm on old reddit, I forget avatars even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:27 AM
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I've personally seen it a lot. I have no idea if it's a normal thing societally, but in my high school experience girls almost exclusively went after bad boys or much older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:22 AM
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You joke, but I used to be friends with a lot of ex-cons and this was absolutely a thing, just done via pen-pals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:21 AM
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I'm guessing it's because we never hear the danger-seeking women contradict the "all men are terrifying" women, and we never hear the "all men are terrifying" women acknowledge that the danger-seeking women exist as an appreciable fraction of women. What women say, as a whole, supports the "men are terrifying" narrative. What we see women do, as a whole, supports the "danger seeking" narrative. These may be two different groups of women but we only ever hear one thing and only ever see a differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:19 AM
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No one will know if you're good in sex if you're not hot enough for people to want sex with you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:13 AM
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Some men like me just prefer female company. Not because they might have sex with me, I just prefer them to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:05 AM
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Women, by contrast, exerted profound influence in the intimate, kinship, and cultural domains, Influence, sure. Power? Not always, probably not even most of the time. And regardless, formal power structures by definition will always have the ability to override informal social organizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:01 AM
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I agree, but I don't think it's such an unimaginable future. We may look on the "essential patriarchy argument" as a thing of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:00 AM
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I wonder if there would be a market for sperm freezing similar to egg freezing for women. Push for all men to freeze some sperm then get a vasectomy young. That way, if and when they want kids it can be done in a controlled setting with an invested partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:57 AM
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I think it's less about risk and more about pleasure. I have a pet theory that if women were guaranteed an orgasm every time they had intercourse, they'd be out there fucking any guy they could get ahold of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:52 AM
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I think the point he's making is that on the one hand, men want women to be more promiscuous in general. But on the other hand, they want the specific woman they're with to have been chaste in the past. These two things naturally conflict and it makes no sense to want both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:50 AM
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I don't think there's any real good data on how many enjoy it vs do it out of desperation vs are coerced into it. It's definitely not all of any one category. I've known two, one really enjoyed it and the other hated it and was disgusted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:47 AM
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Based and tacopilled
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:43 AM
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You can ask me! I adjust my finances a lot and I have a nerdy interest in personal finance in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:40 AM
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If you define patriarchy as any system where women either have no rights, or are dependent on men for their rights, then the patriarchy will always exist. The phrase "dependent on men for their rights" is way too vague, I think. At most, I think you could call an egalitarian society where men COULD take away women's rights a theoretical patriarchy. It doesn't mean it's a patriarchy in practice. It just means that the threat of a true patriarchy exists. And I think in the modern era of guns and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:37 AM
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Exactly what part of society doesn't explicitly cater to women? Example off the top of my head: blue collar work environments. They're massively misogynistic across the US and much of Europe, and little effort has been made to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:32 AM
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The unborn are not a person, killing them is like killing a tapeworm. I don't understand when men insist that this specific woman carry this specific fetus to term when men want to be parents. If she doesn't want it, great. The man has the opportunity to find a woman much better suited to being a parent, and he can have a child with that woman instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:30 AM
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Men have some limited options. If they know they never want kids, they can have a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:25 AM
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we have never lived in a Patriarchy Dude, have you never read a history book? Most human societies throughout the thousands of years since we invented farming have been patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:23 AM
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This whole exchange is like an autism standoff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:58 AM
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The Wave 2 data also had 2600 respondents, but it's from 1992
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:22 PM
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I was able to access the study. For this study we used data from the MARS and the NSFH2. The MARS is an Internet-based survey conducted in March and April of 2006 by Knowledge Networks using probability sam pling. Knowledge Networks provides ongoing household panelists with an Internet appliance, Internet access, Web TV, and a cash payment for completing surveys to reduce the exclu sion of members of disadvantaged backgrounds. The response rate was 80.3% (Lichter & Car malt, 2009). The MARS samp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:28 PM
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Personally, in the US, almost every woman I've ever talked to about this has had a much older man try something with them when they were in their early teens or younger. Many men too, but it doesn't seem to bother us as much because it's not as threatening I guess? Full on adult women were hitting on me when I was 14, but I was just like, "cool, but uh my dad is waiting for me in the car so...bye..."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:12 PM
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