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DiscussionFondacey/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:28 PM
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You don't want to identify as a whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:16 PM
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Pretty easy. Meet someone who's personality turns you on, and tahdah - that is one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:08 PM
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For some of these 'incels-R-us' they can't understand the concept of women and men having sex with the same sex they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:10 PM
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It's a bitter pill thing - grumpy and whiney
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:02 PM
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That's what I think and know from every straight woman I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:01 PM
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I would imagine that women who don't want to have sex with men will choose to have sex with women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:01 PM
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What do you think 'achieved' means to women when they won't 'settle for less'? I won't settle for less and it's about character and world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:21 AM
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Who are the losers in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:33 AM
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I define a friend the same if a man or a woman. Why would a friend be different by sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:39 PM
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It is. My comment is about our not separated parenting where we both worked and our kids, like all kids, start preschool at min 1yr old (often 14-20 months depending on which month they were born.) That's what I mean by outsourcing 'child rearing' - even though it's not actually outsourcing, but it was great that our kids were able to be in preschool/child care for much of the working day. They had organized play, creativity and lots of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:50 AM
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It's an equal argument to saying there is no need for anything credible to establish is is true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:46 PM
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I live in Sweden and it’s the norm. I love ❤️ it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:16 AM
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Ok Francis. The lack of serious effort to engage with members here means this subreddit is out of your league. What is the purpose of your spew?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:09 AM
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You make men sound so insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:03 AM
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You hopefully are intelligent enough to understand that a few examples are not an exhaustive list.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:08 PM
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If you think that’s all you need you are clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:29 PM
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A power imbalance doesn’t require strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:35 PM
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Which still leave the less powerful person vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:34 PM
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As long as you can walk away with no loss beyond the relationship, then it doesn’t matter. Relationships usually add more complexity like housing and children and independence. Then a power imbalance adds vulnerability for the less powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:07 PM
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A woman and how she chooses to engage with you is never “insulting”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:52 PM
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Even if “less” doesn’t mean “not at all”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:29 AM
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That would make men terrible employees, managers, negotiators and diplomats along with terrible military leaders and medical professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:28 AM
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No sweetheart, all women, forever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:27 AM
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Ikr!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:56 AM
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Manosphere math?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:54 AM
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You are criticizing “men” solely in the context of romantic relationships. Men accept responsibility, are emotionally resilient and are good at communication in every other aspect of life equally to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:54 AM
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Real men are just being. The red pill brigade are ranting about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:52 AM
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Not for the keepers of the manophere
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:51 AM
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All women have been doing what you are assigning to “masculinity” forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:50 AM
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You are a teen who idolizes the manosphere bros right? It helps put your post into perspective if that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:46 AM
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So you can never be friends with a woman? Only friend zoned?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:53 PM
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Are you friend zoned with your male friends? When you become friends with a woman you are not interested in are you already friend zoned?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:50 PM
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Being able to? Why do you need to be able to? If you become friends earnestly with no romantic intentions you don’t need to be able to see a friend as a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:41 PM
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Huh? A woman views a male and female friendship as a friendship. Why would anyone not view friends as friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:07 PM
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If they are treating the friendship as a losing endeavor. A friend not reciprocating romantic feelings is normal. The only normal response is “bummer” and a. Sorry cannot remain friends or b. I am glad to remain friends but understand it will never be more than our original friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:20 PM
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It’s not unimaginable that a friend might develop feelings. When the recipient makes it clear she’s not interested, since they were friends from the beginning there is no “being friend zoned”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:09 PM
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That’s a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:07 PM
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So men friend zone men since they are friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:09 AM
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Why are friends not friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:09 AM
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So men are friend zoned with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:03 PM
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Friendship isn’t a sexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:00 PM
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You don’t get friend zoned when you are a friend first and then catch feelings. You began as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:59 PM
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There is no “getting friend zoned”. You are either a real friend or a creep posing as a friend to get with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:39 PM
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What entitled bitches not settling for shitty men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:34 PM
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The number of hoops men jump through and the stuff they put with for sex and validation from basic women is actually amazing You mean it's not about sex that men jump through hoops for just to get sex from basic women and this is just an aside to your message?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:33 PM
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If you don't do 50% of the work, you're slagging
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:41 PM
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What is considered a “clean” home is completely arbitrary While it might be selective in terms of to what degree, "clean" is not arbitrary in the same way 'dirty' isn't. You might want to argue that the degree of 'tidy' can be argued, using 'clean' as a catch all term for proper amount of basic and daily housekeeping. Men’s tolerance is compared to women, lower on average This is very true. Men are more content to accept unhygienic conditions and very ok with what a lot of people could be made t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:16 PM
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And despite 'gettin' some' they don't like what they have to do in order to do that. It's like they're such victims
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:42 AM
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Nah, it provides some entertainment. You're here for the same reason I am
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:39 AM
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This sounds like a question for men - "Why are you simps and making it difficult for the rest of us who don't want to be simps to get laid"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:29 AM
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Using included 'putting up with nonsense' - Just love it when I find that catch of a man!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:28 AM
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Can we be besties and go out of drinks? I live your style!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:25 AM
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Do you want every to agree so we can move on? Or do you want some recognition and bro-solidarity on a day you're feeling down? (and then we can move on?)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:24 AM
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Are you saying that human man (the predator)stalks and hunts and kills human woman (the prey) literally? or figuratively? That men act like the many non-human animals with instinctive behavior not in their human control to stalk and kill their prey - in this case, not the non-human animal like a rabbit, but a human woman, who won't actually be killed and eaten like a non human, but 'taken down' in some other aspect of being caught and the prize for the human man. Hmm - if you mean the first one …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:35 AM
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He literally is a model and used modeling photos. Women don't want models?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:02 PM
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Would you pair up for life with someone who is good enough or even great - but on paper only. You don't feel any real connection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:57 PM
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It take time to find a match since matching with someone for a longterm relationship is significantly more involved that 'this one checks all the fundamentals" - you know that right? or is dating about not caring about any meaningful connection for you/men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:40 PM
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Sheesh, you need to tell the women who are not finding someone off the dating apps that they 're matched and in great relationships. They need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:31 PM
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Yeah, cuz every woman who doesn't find someone to match her is living her best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:26 PM
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Doesn't this go against the idea that women only go for profiles like his?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:17 PM
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The OP's 'double standards' are not measured equally, so are they actually double standards (as per OP's examples?) "If a man’s gf/wife likes another man’s Instagram picture or follows another man (even if its a celebrity or someone like that), glances at another man in public, or even stares too hard at an attractive man in a movie or tv show, it’s considered totally socially acceptable for him to be upset." Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:07 PM
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Europeans measure height in metric
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:30 PM
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Another in general conversation? Or just for women or just for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:53 PM
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So the question is in general then, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:50 PM
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Which European woman 'talks about height so much"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:50 PM
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"When you’re in the Category of being a pursuer you often do things that can be uncomfortable to the general public like cold approaching, asking for personal information like their social media or phone number, breaking the touch barrier ...Being the pursued means..." OMG - by virtue of being a woman she becomes the prey by the predator and somehow the predator is complaining. Forget about the dehumanization of women - which is such a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:49 PM
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Why is the question for us women? You are mad because you think society in general treats women differently. Women have no influence on that. Why do you perceive it to be that women get more leeway? Why does that make you angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:43 PM
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Most men in the world - measured by women or men, are never any feet tall. Kinda makes it obvious that the fixation that all women want a 6' man is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:38 PM
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You said that 100% unconditional love had a condition attached. That’s just dumb math. Called out on the oversimplification of how little you claim men want and expect in comparison to how much women are supposed to benefit and you flip out. Maybe you’re not only unrealistic but also potentially hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:32 AM
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Women have realistic standards. Men think realistic standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:46 AM
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A hashtag isn’t an opinion. Writing about it constitutes one of the numbers of usages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:18 PM
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Reading more about the hashtag, its origins, its criticisms, it’s hardly a bellwether for a preponderance of women hating men. So anything else to validate the wild assertion of widespread women hating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:34 PM
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I have literally never read a poster say she is a misandrist in the years of reading/posting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:21 PM
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And not 30M unique visitors nor why they are ther
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:31 AM
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Racism isn’t “hatred” it’s race-based bias
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:15 AM
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I have no clue if there even is some generalization let alone what it might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:13 AM
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How to know which percentage is male and bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:08 AM
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When asked to defend a sweeping generalization (the entirety of the global female population prefer…) the response cannot be a “well make a different generalization to try to prove me wrong “ If someone makes a racist statement it’s racist. Is that really too much to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:55 AM
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Men complaining about younger men means they are anti-male?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:36 AM
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How are Republicans anti-male?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:01 AM
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What is hate other than being highly negative emotionally? Literally has the same meaning. Where are these giant presumptive leaps coming from? If you have a negative view you don't hate. No they are not nor ever negatives. There is still not a thing presented in this thread of 'dislike' or 'hate' Western men are also the most (or some of the most) desirable men in the world to NON-western women who do like western men. So why do you think that is and how western men compare to other groups of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:57 AM
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Is there something concrete that substantiates that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:52 AM
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How did you get to "women are snowflakes" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:51 AM
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Yeah. Heck, we can run with it as the new normal in this sub and let's state a new 'fact' that all red pill men are just AI bots paid for by Putin to create discord and disharmoney and ask men how they feel about being demonized by the Russians.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:50 AM
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laugh at jokes that are sexist, racist, homophobic; they don’t care about political issues… I don’t think they like women a lot This 'negative attitude' isn't hate. It's disappointment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:47 AM
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And while OP is at it, please cite that women earn more than men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:45 AM
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Show me one survey that establishes that most women hate men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:23 AM
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The condition of sex makes it conditional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:20 AM
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women generally (Whether you like it or not) haven't been deep thinkers who question things What are you basing this on? Your personal observations, analyses and conclusions? Or something backed by anything beyond opinion? Why wouldn't women understand high school science in the 1970s/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:29 AM
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Women are in constant pursuit of gender equality and rejection of gender roles. When that is achieved women can enjoy the same gender privilege as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:05 AM
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Women are not thinking creatures nor understand female reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:59 AM
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The two quotes I already cited. Or do you agree with her conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:34 PM
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What does “going about her normal day” mean to you? A. Doing everyday activities and tasks B. Dancing in clubs and going out to bars
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:32 PM
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How do you isolate gender when the engagement questions are entirely different? “I need help” vs “anyone for a literary discussion” is already wildly different asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:16 PM
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since Esther Vilar wasn't an idiot incapable of making basic observations of human behaviour I would argue she was an idiot. Not specifically incapable of making basic observations, but of interpreting her observations, analyzing them and then drawing some realistic and reasonable conclusions. The published work is moronic and should be ridiculed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:21 AM
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If you would like to use Esther Vilar and her wild book then you must stand by the rest of what she writes? including "Man, unlike woman, is beautiful, because man, unlike woman, is a thinking creature" "It is a fact that most women — mothers included — have no idea how the human fetus is formed, how it develops in the womb, what stages it passes through before birth." "A woman with feelings would have to think and work, to take on responsibilities, and to learn to do without all the things whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:58 AM
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yeah, when I say 'going about her normal day' that includes bars - yep - you're single without telling us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:14 AM
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You know what a bar/club is? What about dating apps? In those cases everyone says, “I voluntarily announce my interest in the dating game” If a woman is at the gym, in the park reading, food shopping don’t hit on her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:25 PM
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Sparking conversation with a random stranger in public is always fine. I do it all the time. I welcome it all the time. Trying to engage me in conversation because you want to meet a stranger, perhaps for a potential romantic or friendship interest, is not ok. There's a difference. Women don't want to be 'pursued' when they're going about their normal day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:14 PM
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Heck, I would never marry a man without a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:49 PM
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When men ascribe an anecdote about women as if they are the itemized meal and drinks check, you understand that they are not men any woman should ever consider as a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:13 AM
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90% of manosphere and everything on here and online everywhere men talk what women like all time and try to say what women like? then they go change because of it? people (men and women) keep trying to point out the obvious that this mindset is nuts - Women who are secure in themselves do not wan to appease the insecurities of the manosphere. I am sad that any women want to at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:22 AM
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These fatalists don't get that. We want to match with a man that matches with us. Not be attractive to the idealized incel fantasy of what a man is supposed to think a woman is supposed to care about for their sake. It's so nuts that there are men who are so detached from the human experience that they don't actually think it's about two people and not all men and all women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:19 AM
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They think women need to do them some favor so they don't have to care if they are not desirable since they just want women to want them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:16 AM
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People 'on line' are a selective group of people who might speak or behave differently than men and women you meet IRL. There are bots and there are shitposters. If I went by what 'men' say based on what I read on social media I would think men are pretty much all insecure assholes. Knowing and talking to real men IRL I know those assholes don't represent anything other than a weird selection of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:11 PM
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Your PhD empirical data driven 'knowledge' is based on you dating app experience? If women were to base men on their dating app experience what do you think the 'truth' would be about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:32 PM
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How many deep conversations have you had with men that you know how a lot of the average men (discounting all the non-average men you have deep conversations with)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:30 PM
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Its just a feeling. You have a feeling about a man's wife's desire for her husband based on how that man described his physical features on social media? Is it your Spidey senses?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:28 PM
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you know that his wife doesn't truly desire him? Really? (you neeed to change your flair to red)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:27 PM
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every man can be loved on their own merit. And no, it's not required to be more dominant than his female counterpart - that's just some incel speak
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:26 PM
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Women complain about the disproportionate amount of labor they perform in a relationship, which is back by empirical data and - "This is what happens when women complain" - is that a way of saying they deserve it? Not understanding what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:42 PM
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Yes, it would make your interaction with women reciprocal. You could have meaningful, nuanced conversation. What you just said you see all the time is a 2- dimensional, superficial observation. It's like telling us you know what it's like to be a soldier in a war because you've watched movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:40 PM
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You are talking to women? Or reading social media posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:18 AM
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You spend too much time reading whiney comments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:41 AM
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#notallmen #notallwomen The answer to your question doesn't exist. It isn't: what do I as a woman bring to a relationship, it's what do I want a man to bring to our relationship and what does he want me to bring. When those things align people find lifetime partners. I know what I have to offer. I also know what my husband has to offer. We've been together for 34 years and we are really happy with the partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:44 PM
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No, women don't want to 'settle' but that's based on finding a good partner, not a checklist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:15 PM
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They eat-in instead of take-out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:33 PM
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the militant fight to validate the victim mentality of AH men persists. It's as if no short, unattractive, average income man can ever partner with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:45 PM
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These are human relationships. You don't want to get stuck with a dud
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:39 AM
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Women are sheep who follow social norms. (men are sheep as well, but there is a bit more variation in men) I just love this facetious form of criticism: X group is terrible, disclaimer we Y group are also terrible but X is more terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:29 AM
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Heck the men are the thirsty ones for this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:27 AM
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there is a diff between honor killing and jahaur what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:27 AM
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What kind of men base their daily lives and value system on: 1. Women hate short men (OP's flair) 2. "What kind of men let women fight and die for their nation?" - bait 3. Glorifying the 'honor killing' mentality. I agree that some women are more loyal than some men just like some men are more loyal than some men [to their nation]. On the other hand - nationalism isn't a great thing to be loyal to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:18 AM
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We ate the apple 🍎 and lured unsuspecting Adam to sin with us!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:18 PM
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considering the number of times men complain themselves about the filth of the men's restrooms knowing that men are so much better are tolerating filth, I'm not buying into the suggestion that women's restrooms are dirtier than men's
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:11 AM
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Poignant data for people to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:20 PM
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My “man” is my partner, my confidant, my “second self”. I would never have chosen someone who is a negative trade off. No one should
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:25 AM
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I live in a country where both men and women have equal duty to serve
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:16 PM
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Codifying the duty of a citizen of a nation state to serve is not violating body autonomy in the same way requiring children to be educated or incarcerating a convicted criminal is also not a violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:01 PM
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Conscription is a call of duty to serve your country. There is a legal requirement to educate children (also not a violation of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:58 PM
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cuz it's not a violation of a human's bodily autonomy. Forcing you to get the covid vax is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:25 PM
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Conscription is not a violation of bodily autonomy in the same way incarcerating criminals isn't either. Requiring a soldier or a prisoner to donate a kidney, or even just blood, to a person in need, would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:25 PM
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Men should understand that fundamental problem is the right to body autonomy, which is not gendered. If the power people can restrict a woman's right to her bodily autonomy, then it can go after a man's bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:35 AM
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I know tradwives exist (in the US). It’s not a universal “life goal” in the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:42 PM
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What is this source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:40 PM
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You think men remain equally sexually attractive as they age that isn't the same for women? Dude, get a fucking grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:21 PM
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Maybe women in your sphere, not in mine. Definitely not any women I know or have ever known in my life. Wasn't my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:19 PM
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Men think they don't pass their prime yet women can find them attractive. There's a reason women reject these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:10 PM
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What makes you think she's willing to settle for a guy who demands 50/50? This thinking is the crux of the problem. Women are not out to be taken care of. Women want to live a fulfilling and rewarding life. They want to be the boss of their choices, their bodies, their futures.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:51 PM
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"facially attractive Latino" ? WTAF - this is deranged to identify characteristics and then swap some out with 'exceptions'
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:10 AM
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Your understanding demonstrates your intentional manipulation by using your “hypothesis” as empty bait. This is just a shit post ain’t it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:18 PM
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I obviously missed the examples given to defend or exemplify your “all men/women do exactly the opposite of the other all the time “ statement. Could you provide examples here please?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:14 PM
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Except that isn’t even a real thing. Exaggeration requires something to be real at the very least
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:48 PM
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You seem to make it clear that your statement is value-neutral, am I right to understand that? and if so, what is the point of assigning an all or nothing to what men and women do, especially when you're deliberately vaugue?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:44 PM
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Confusing women makes things easier, clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:42 PM
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All men do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:41 PM
1

So “easier” is equally good and bad, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:40 PM
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people who murder and molest are not 'pathetic' - they are other adjectives that do not include the ability to merely scoff at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:42 PM
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So by your OP statement, women always making things harder for men can just as well be a good thing as a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:31 PM
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Sorry, not getting the undertone message you're sending. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:30 PM
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I think men have it too, even if I can sympathize that it's more likely something 'on the surface' of women more readily than men (gross generalization) We're not as quick witted to react in situations I fully disagree with this as a gender bias. Being quick witted is a wiring thing. Most anyone with ADHD is significantly more quick witted than someone neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:29 PM
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Like natural instincts are the ability to read the room?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:21 PM
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Ah, so making something hard for men can therefore be a good thing, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:08 PM
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What are these 'natural instincts' that are exclusive to women that are not to men? And if you suggest reversing them would be good, are you saying that men's natural instincts are already the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:07 PM
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you being nice or do you think there are actual examples that could be valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:47 PM
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OMG - anyone who really thinks 'women' as a 50% subset of humans - are by de factor nature of belonging to that 50% - out to do something 'bad' to the other half of humanity - is, hands down, the most fragile, pathetic human specimen on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:46 PM
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No one actually thinks that "personality" is important in dating. No one. There is literally not ONE physically amazing man - perfect in every possible physical attribute - that I would even kiss, let along fuck, if his personality wasn't something I found appealing. A shitty personality is so much more a turn off than any physical attribute you could present me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:43 PM
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The concept of a hypothetical allows for the stretch that could be considered fantasy - you have to work with it or opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:41 PM
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Why ask if the person doesn’t express anything against wanting to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:06 PM
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The men think so. The women are setting for some rp ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:10 PM
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Where did I criticize fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:09 PM
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But the men that want a bangmaid but sanitize the name still have no regard for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:09 PM
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They want to say it but not be assholes - but that's the way it works
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:26 PM
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Sure does
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:10 PM
1

Red pill marriage perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:10 PM
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Women are happy being someone's bangmaid?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:09 PM
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You want a long term sexual relationship with someone who trades sex for money/laqbor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:43 PM
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No women should be forced to pair with any men and no men should be forced to pair with any women. You can't believe this without 'proof'?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:13 PM
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"hmmm should i end a relationship just becuz he doesnt support hating all white people?" you think this is every woman's basic demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:11 PM
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If only the people frequenting this sub could take this as fundamental truth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:38 PM
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It’s a dumb metric that means nothing but tries to justify incel, anti woman rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:36 PM
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The patriarchy is also a problem for men, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:39 AM
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Any rich, tall, educated and muscular woman already has a vast field of men who can be interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:37 AM
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As a woman he is not attracted to men? But his 'game' was learned as being a man? If he acts like a man (learned) to attract a man - his behavior is regarded as masculine, which many men resent in their female partners. The woman being stronger, smarter, richer, better than the man is always something difficult for the average man to accept since modern society leans and promotes that men are supposed to be the 'bigger,stronger, faster, richer"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:33 AM
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In the link you provided it demonstrated that men spent more on food and alcohol (eating out/consumerist). Men spend more on cars (that's consumerism over pragmatism). Men definitely spend more on watches than women (not specifically mention in your article, but you probably agree) It also showed that women spend more on pragmatic things like insurance. From what these article demonstrate saying "spend money on hobby (noble spend in your opinion) and still dress at Walmart (not sure where that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:19 AM
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single women spend more of their income on typical consumerist things, Your link doesn't confirm this assertion either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:12 AM
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Women tend to spend larger percentage of income on consumption, men save more. The link you provided does not support this statement. Is the link intended to support it or to provide other information to contribute to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:06 AM
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"getting with them" - do you mean hooking up and having a sexual relationship or do you mean having a meaningful relationship (regardless of the marriage paperwork?)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:57 AM
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How does this comment relate to men not caring about a woman's income and the position OP is positing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:55 AM
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Sounds like these men don't want relationships, they want items that demonstrate their 'success' and 'status' - meaning - women are not 'real people' - they are objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:52 AM
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They weren't paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:54 AM
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Yes, I think that if a sex worker could guaranty his/her working conditions and environment, it would become a service providing job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:54 AM
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Self respect and value is preserved in traditional labor work. Sex work removes the ability to control that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:17 AM
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Does the doctor ejaculate when you get it done?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:06 AM
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What if it were a woman with a strap-on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:04 AM
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Do you feel your sense of self-respect and value is important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:02 AM
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Sounds like your integrity would be vital to be protected, why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:01 AM
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You didn't know prostitution was a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:00 AM
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Why do you regard providing a service 'unearned' ? Doctors, lawyers, first responders, wait staff - none of them 'earn' their income?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:56 AM
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Ok fair enough, you haven't noted the preponderance of this view. I have. Two lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:06 PM
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are you new to this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:56 PM
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like 51%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:29 PM
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All women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:01 PM
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Who, me? I'm lying or being a hypocrite?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:48 PM
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Lots of RP men blame women for prioritizing and not settling on men - and by doing so, contributing at the very least, to male loneliness (if not directly blamed for it)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:19 PM
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Thank you for being the grownup. And lookie lookie- no response. Not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:02 AM
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Oh we didn’t know that you are the big boss of how everything works! Thanks for splaining
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:12 PM
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He is just feeling unnecessary because women dismiss the fabric of the world as he sees it (and fits into it in a significant way). And doesn’t like when women don’t give a shit about his self-centered world perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:02 PM
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I think telling me that what I think is not in tune with what women think is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:03 PM
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I think men should be offended by your generalization of calling all men shallow. I don't find men to be shallow at all. Not sure what it says about you that you think being shallow is something that is ok. as a woman if you seek to maximize your sexual market value. You really only need to focus on your appearance. Everything else is in a distant 2nd place to that. That might be 'dating advice' you feel you can offer women, but I assure you, women do not this this way as a whole. Your thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:01 PM
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I'm going to call bullshit on the generalization of 'women' and let you fall back to your own anecdotal evidence as "your unique experience" that means no more or less than 'opinion'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:57 PM
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With men it's very simple. Is she pretty or not? Any male with 2 functioning brain cells can easily figure out what he likes in women. You're implying that men are shallow and not interested in a partner when seeking a relationship, just sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:35 PM
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Is that your empirical data talking or you 'gut'?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:34 PM
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Women are often not fully honest with themselves about their own feelings and desires How do you figure that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:32 PM
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Most women don't need any introspection whatsoever to find viable mates How do you figure that? Women don't want to find men who match them so they don't bother to figure out who they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:31 PM
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Falls completely into the mansplaining tendency. Too often men feel they know what women think better than the women think themselves. And they get so upset when we say that this pisses us off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:04 PM
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The same as women shouldn't apologize for prioritizing whatever they want to prioritize and not settle for less. Are we all finally in agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:13 AM
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Eh, it’s literally not possible to figure it’s not your native language. It’s mine 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:51 PM
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I blitzed on what amoral is and was confusing it with immoral. Sorry - brain fart
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:52 PM
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I think it's my own vocabulary confusion - immoral vs amoral - I take it all back. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:51 PM
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That's a mystery to the average intelligence person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:11 PM
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Attraction is amoral. You think attraction is amoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:04 PM
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Women constantly tell men that attraction is amoral. Huh? No woman or man says that attraction is amoral. Religious nuts, maybe but no, "women" as a group do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:01 PM
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In conclusion, the two studies presented here provide evidence consistent with the selection view of health and wellbeing differences between married and unmarried individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:07 PM
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Read all of the 1st link
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:02 PM
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I found a handful by googling Here's 2 still open in my browser https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8888778/ https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/effects-marriage-health-synthesis-recent-research-evidence-research-brief
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:48 PM
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No one claims that the marriage itself is what benefits men. Being married/not married simply puts people into those with stable, long-term relationships and those who are not. Many studies include couples who are not married but are in stable, supportive relationships. The studies show that these conditions benefit women and men since being in a partnership makes everything easier as long as the partnership is regarded as healthy (partnerships can be regarded as healthy by one but not the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:53 PM
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The studies have included many of these variations, including longitudinal where the effects were measured prior, leading up to, and after becoming married. They largely are consistent with the general findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:47 PM
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My point is that no1 has nothing to do with the 2nd point Asking why is 2 “true” if 1 is, provides nothing since they do not correlate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:13 PM
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Your two points are not in direct correlation to one another. Women claim that men benefit from marriage This isn't a 'claim' nor is it made by women. This is catch phrase for the metric that sums up collected data mostly related to health and life longevity, which you provided yourself. It's also well founded in a number of academic disciplines. If 1 is true, why 2 is so common? Because no. 1 is research based on large data sets especially after years of marriage and no. 2 is related to the soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:16 AM
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and a Subaru
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:05 AM
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Considering the indictment numbers for rapists are dismal and the conviction rates are worse and the wrist slapping sentencing cases are infuriating-indicates,no those men are too infrequently held accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:04 PM
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No idea. Don’t even think there’s something to blame anyone about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:32 PM
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I think you are blaming the wrong people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:18 PM
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Do you think short, non muscular men are equally male as tall, fit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:03 PM
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*woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:02 PM
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You don’t know the average woman or man. Read more. Get a creative hobby. Do something for the good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:34 PM
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OP said, "Mostly a myth" allows for your personal experience to have happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:38 AM
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What is your objection to OP? Do you refute the stats? Or the interpretation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:58 PM
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I watch/have watched porn. I agree that no woman I know would say, "I'm so happy my man watches porn" Response to that statement without addressing the commentators experience watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:04 AM
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Thank you for mansplaining our lived experiences. We didn't know that when we experience threats of violence, which we literally do regularly, it is not actually a thing. Additionally, we must endeavor to center the more important risk threat, i.e. the high risk men face of being rejected. This can be so devastating our species is currently at risk. It's our duty to improve our rate of accessibility to all men. It's on us to save mankind and thus, we must strive to make the male experience a mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:13 AM
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Is he still with the mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:06 AM
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By whom and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:11 PM
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What was done easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:45 PM
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I’m for children getting support from their parents. However, if those parents give up the child should be kept safe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:41 PM
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Wait now, you are querying someone’s understanding of themself and her peer group?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:38 PM
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Did you conduct a research study to get your findings?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:36 PM
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A living breathing baby is at risk of being neglected or killed therefore men should not be forced to be fathers when they don't want to, and so a paper abortion is an alternative that provides a way to keep the baby safe If the bio mom continues the pregnancy and a child is born, then the child needs care and support. When the bio dad does the minimum (pays a fair share of the cost of his child) that alleviates the burden on the bio mom. Maybe fewer 'drop off box babies' will be the result when…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:20 PM
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I guess I lied, I do want to call you out some more - your feelings are not my responsibility. If a man cheats on his wife or leaves his wife because of sex, he is well within his rights to do so. No dude. You do not ever have a right to lie, defraud, cheat, blah blah. You're not happy with the amount of sex you have in your marriage, then be a man and get a divorce. Don't hide behind some 'rights' you have because you've been fuck-scorned. How is this not just plainly obvious? No happy, then en…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:58 PM
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Who's offended. I'm just speaking frankly - don't get your knickers in a twist. I guess you think speaking plainly about the bottom line is someone a 'tactic'? But if it makes you feel uncomfortable to be called out on the bare bones of the stuff you say, then ok. I don't want to make you feel 'emasculated' because I talk about fucking and consent and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:54 PM
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No, it's not about respect. Really? A woman not wanting to fuck you and you think they should be raped if it were legal but it's not so there has to be another way to fuck, is not about respect? Edit: I should say - you're right, you have no respect for your wife if this is your attitude. Hence - divorce the woman you don't want to be married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:44 PM
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Radical acceptance that you can do every thing right and your wife still won't fuck you That's not radical. That's respecting each other and agreeing that a marriage is more than fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:37 PM
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Your wife can do what she wants and there is nothing you can do about it. That's a pretty creepy way of saying that a woman is not a sex doll and as a human, has autonomy over her body and therefore must consent to sex or it's rape, so just accept it -ewww. It's whether she is adding value to your life? That's not a new concept. The only point of being married to someone is if that person, as your partner, adds value. If a woman's husband only wants to fuck her, then she's being used for sex - s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:17 PM
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Redpill advice seems to be, "get a divorce and start over"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:26 PM
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No one is complaining. Women are explaining that women don't have sex privilege. You agree. I guess we've settled that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:22 PM
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No there is no such thing as female privilege. Saying there is again and again does not make it so
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:03 PM
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Don't have sex. Keep away from hazard That's what women do. This is addressing the non-existent concept that incel men insist must exist - that women have a 'sex privilege' Glad that you agree it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:49 AM
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that women are desired does not equal women have privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:47 AM
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what the hell is social agency? agency pertaining to social interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:45 AM
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its reality. No it's not . Yes, I just said that the average man has the agency and options to get relationships and sex. No one has options to get all they want re: relationships and sex - all women included.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:37 AM
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what about it? That's in the US (unless you mean that the generalized women means exclusively American women?) regardless, men are overrepresented getting athletic scholarships. Are we going to debate a concept by picking one metric of thousands at a time ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:35 AM
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Unless your a tall attractive man, you dont have the options to back up your agency. That's a victim's mentality. Every man has social agency unless he's incarcerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:05 AM
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What 'ease'? Access to sex is a minefield for women. Access to something that comes with great risk isn't a privilege, it's a different norm. There is no such thing as 'easy sex' for women unless each woman has access to a panic button with a 'matter of seconds' response and each man she has sex with can be made 100% infertile for any ejaculation, and is signed on to a mutual orgasm outcome. Until those real life 'risks' women face are 100% in her power, 'sex' is hazardous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:02 AM
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The crux of it, as I read it, is that there is no female privilege. That's an incel's construction to counter his feeling of 'failure'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:54 AM
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Yes - but because they feel so haunted by something they feel they cannot attain - instead of feeling like they are losers - they turn it into they are normal and women are privileged. Sounds like you agree with OP that there is no female privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:53 AM
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all of what i said proves female privilege. agency with the options to back it up. It proved nothing, unless you're saying 'agency with the options to back it up' is the privilege. Which men don't have agency with options to back it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:50 AM
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Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:47 AM
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OP is pretty much saying, "There is no female privilege because what is claimed to be privilege isn't for a woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:38 AM
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Besides writing a generalized commentary, is there anything else relevant to the OP's post?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:33 AM
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This ought to be good to hear how they refute this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:08 AM
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its literally the same as a paper abortion It is not at all. A living and breathing baby is at risk of being neglected or even killed, and this alternative provides a way to keep the baby safe and a pathway to adoption with parents who can care for and love the child. That child grows up in a safe, secure and loving family. You just made that up. You said that yourself: "This way it encourages women simply not to fuck around with guys." Either you don't know what you're saying, don't mean what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:20 AM
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Are you against women being able to give up their children in those baby boxes? Why would anyone who prioritizes the best interest of the child be against a program expressly originated with the best interest of the child in mind? it encourages women simply not to fuck around with guys there unsure about, Wait - the main purpose of the fatherhood responsibility waiver; is to police women's decisions? One final question: Women who get pregnant and live somewhere where their bodies aren't locked u…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:27 PM
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The alluring part is that it's grounded in reality. You say that not understanding somebody is the only possible way to love that person. Sorry, no. That's not reality. That's not even fantasy. That's still idiotic. And that's truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:10 PM
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or in a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:28 AM
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those eyes and ears gave you the 'sensations' that most women are lesbians. They're broken. Or rather, defective and have probably been you whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:03 AM
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How do you figure that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:02 AM
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You don't. It's a dumb thing to say but sounds 'alluring'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:01 AM
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I've known my husband for 34 years. We are still romantic. You are romanticizing about 'allure' and 'mystery' - buy a ticket to a murder mystery dinner or read some books.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:00 AM
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So if she signs and some time down the road his feelings change, but he keeps the document 'active' - and he impregnates her but by now he's changed his mind about wanting to be a father. She decides he doesn't want him involved. Would he have a case to fight for custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:08 PM
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Full disclosure, I'm 100% against anything that would be considered a paper abortion and that's entirely because you can never dismiss the need of a child. But to keep out that ethical debate for now, and consider sign a paper abortion even before conception and have it registered. That way a woman can be fully informed before even having sex. what would be a reasonable length of duration of validity for each 'opt out'? Per ejaculation, sex encounter, ovulation period - for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:48 AM
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It hasn’t worked well enough yet. Men still won’t “read the room “ and leave you the fuck alone when it’s clear that they want to be left the fuck alone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:53 PM
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I’m sorry, what? The birth rate in Sweden, while lower than the UK and US (presumably you are from one of those?) isn’t any more affected by falling global rates than other countries. But I agree that lower birth rates in all countries is good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:51 PM
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The study/report you link blamed it on 'traditional conceptions of gender' - you know, like it's not ok for boys to cry, wear pink, play with dolls - do anything 'real men' find girly. Are you saying that women were forcing these norms on their sons disproportionately to men on their sons? C'on now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:33 AM
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You mean behavioral science isn't aligned on innate or learned? Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:10 AM
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In this sub, what should be obvious, isn't. Stating my 'obvious' is now a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:08 PM
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But they are 2nd in privilege to women who can get dates easier. That's what actually counts in the real world /sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:02 PM
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Good ole toxic masculinity negatively affects men yet again. one central misconception fuelled by traditional conceptions of gender; that the occupation is unsuitable for men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:19 AM
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The state (especially if we're talking the US) is overwhelmingly dominated disproportionately by men. Congress is 28% women (higher than before, though not the past few congresses) and the key players in the Trump administration is are 75-80% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:57 PM
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Women share ownership of men with men? Or wait, are you saying women own the men who run the state, so women are actually the true rulers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:09 PM
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Manosphere scifi is pretty much porn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:04 PM
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Best answer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:02 PM
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As a woman I cannot fathom how you think this question is actually a question you expect women to be able to answer with more authority than a man. Do I think men would do what you posit? Yes, I think the men that think this hypothetical situation reflects reality would do exactly the unrealistic thing that the unrealistic scenario sets up. Why do women or individuals say one thing but do another? Human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:46 PM
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Tell me you don’t understand intellectual/academic discourse without telling me you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:37 PM
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“Get to” is not removing the reality you recognize; men run the government, men own men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:11 PM
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The poorer you are the less tax you pay. #winning ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:10 PM
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Yep- we get so easily fucked. Literally and figuratively. I understand why incels are so angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:08 PM
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Unsustainable depletion of resources without responsible population management is failure not “flourishing”. At least from a logical perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:03 PM
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When you use an academic term yet change the parameters of the definition and cherry pick the data you don’t remove the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:00 PM
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The “state” is governed by white men. You are owned by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:55 PM
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But they can get dates. You are entirely negating the only metric any of the incel club find justifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:54 PM
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To leave a committed relationship because you lose your control over her body is by definition, controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:46 AM
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Is there any evidence of this beyond conjecture?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:42 AM
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In what contexts are men used as tools? I guess you mean in general? That would mean that men are used by men since it’s men who dominate the socio-political power dynamic and decide the general distribution of resources (men).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:41 AM
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Are you classifying women specifically in this sub or women across the board?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:27 AM
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Rights and privileges are never zero sum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:24 AM
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This is why feminism benefits men by addressing the 'norm' of toxic masculinity. It is constantly part of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:54 PM
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Men do the work for their orgasm. That's the problem. When you think going into sex with another person is I do what I need you do what you need you end up with a man who had an orgasm and a woman who is disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:26 PM
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Men - by nature and as a rule - are already semi-isolated. Do you have a source for "by nature/rule" that men are 'semi-isolated'? There are whole cultures where men only socialize/dance/philosophize with men and their wives are not social partners at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:17 PM
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Reality is always a bitch. That's why when people cannot control themselves within the norms of a society they are incarcerated or otherwise controlled by society. Tell me in dinner conversation terms why anyone in society except for behavioral scientists and criminal sociologists should even discuss the sexuality success and failures of men? Because I personally don't give a royal fuckall about any man's sexual exploits whether they be successes or failures. It's LITERALLY not my fucking proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:22 PM
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Losers think their sex troubles are to be blamed on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:10 PM
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And too many of these sorry assed men think 'attractive' is exclusively model looks and athletic bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:08 PM
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this is really weird thinking: Unless one basically feels that it is inevitable for pairing rates to keep declining and declining as women become more free, economically and otherwise, it's weird because you can actually conceive a reality where the more 'free' [from oppression, discrimination, inequitable opportunities] women become the more irrational this trend should be allowed to continue and women must be brought back to 'sustainable' rates of 'freedom'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:07 PM
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Appreciate your message. I only want to make a point that if a man isn't getting the sexual gratification he feel he 'needs' isn't anyone's fault. And to rectify the 'problem' is not the woman's responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:02 PM
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It's utterly infuriating that any man can conceive that a man's inability to control himself would be solved in any other way than imprisonment for the men who cause problems. I can't control myself, I am hungry, I steal = jail I can't control myself, I am horny, I rape/go berserk = sex slaves provided
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:58 PM
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I'm saying that too many unpaired men have always been an existential threat to a society[...]How we want to deal with these fundamental truths in a 2026 context is an open question. If men are unable to mange themselves in society and the 'cause' is their urges they cannot control, then the solution is to police the man's body. Physical restraints, chemical castration, whatever. In 2026 the ONLY way a civil, democratic society 'deals' with men who cannot control themselves is to find ways to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:53 PM
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wait, wuh? Are you making a literally interpreted argument that women must provide sex for men for the good of all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:56 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:08 AM
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Asexual means not wanting to have sex. This is wanting sex with the right conditions. People can be skiing enthusiasts but only want to ski with enough snow and won’t if it’s icy or even hate it if there’s virtually no visibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:11 PM
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How do we know this “critical mass of sexually repressed men” 101 truth exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:28 PM
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That hour is time to hang out and do things with a friend. I think finding out why the aliens abducted you would be pretty deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:50 AM
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I would interpret that (correct me where I am wrong or off) as if you felt 'lonely' you could hook up with random men but only in the hopes that the encounters could or would eventually evolve into something more meaningful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:42 AM
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"if forced" - this is an alien abduction, scifi, hypothetical. It's purposefully unrealistic to remove the distraction of the multitude of variables that could come into potential consideration. It's singularly binary on purpose. I'm not suggesting that humans naturally favor one over the other. I'm curious when in isolation, all or nothing, which all would you choose and which nothing would you throw away. There is no timeline where a sufficiently large number of sexually excluded men are not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:39 AM
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Am I understanding you right? Due to your very difficult circumstances, now with socializing back to normal, you're less interested in non-sexual human interactions than before?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:21 AM
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I think your visceral reaction is one many women would share. This is the part that seems to be ignored by men who whine about women supposedly having it easy to date. It's hard to get through to some that while women get attention easily, the attention is often the wrong form, or useless since most women would rather forego sex altogether if there is no intimate connection. I read too often about how women only want "the most attractive" men - which is only true if you define what is "attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:18 AM
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Could be the wisest choice given the circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:06 AM
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These creatures abducted you and are keeping you hostage. They might just wonder what you would answer without actually even supplying the choice. And then they probe ya. #believe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:14 AM
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Aliens aren’t real either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:07 AM
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I can't say that the aliens would supply anything but choices A and B and the sexual partner will not remember your preferences. It's a new hook up each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:36 PM
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the implications of isolation make it suck, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:59 PM
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It's A or B. Neither is a great option so just looking for the better of two evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:51 PM
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That they need to constantly be in this alert state to not do anything wrong around women. The genuinely quality guys out there have never wanted to make women uncomfortable and so they haven't. They're are paranoid. It's the ones who know what they do is likely to make women uncomfortable but they are too indignant to make an effort who complain about 'fear' of being cancelled. It's a neon sign saying - I don't give a fuck about what women experience or care about. Are you one of the guys who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:50 PM
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Here we go again. The amount of power women have should mean they rule the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:45 PM
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I agree. If the choices were A or nothing, I'd take A but between a real connection and a spicy hook up - it's easy for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:43 PM
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Neither your bestie nor MJ are options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:31 PM
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how does that explain the choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:30 PM
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I think non-sexual affection is entirely plausible. We feel affection for people IRL we have no sexual interest in, like older and younger generations. We hold their hands and hug them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:10 PM
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You're a captive, it's not a desert island 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:06 PM
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Thank you again. I like how you come at the question. I am more interested in the why, than the choice since I can only make assumptions for why if people don't tell us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:05 PM
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I think a lot in the same way you do. Loneliness is real and so is the nagging desire to combine meaningful connection with sexual acts. But we also know that making connections with others, especially non-sexual connections, is easier for women. If we could make it easier for men to find and value meaningful connection (utterly non sexual with zero hope for sexual connection) it would make them more 'attractive' to potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:01 PM
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hahaha - I found the optimist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:50 PM
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I am fan of humans - I like people and I believe in "us" as a species (I'm realistic too and our ability to suck and fuck things up is real) - so I am curious what is the either/or choice, no in between. I actually expect more men and women to choose B (which supports my 'faith in humanity') but the 'why' to A or B can be super interesting too and add nuance to something that I might be super lopsided about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:49 PM
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The answer I am interested in is what do men and women want or prefer if it's either or. And I am also interested in the why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:38 PM
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You've been abducted. They are you captors. YOu have no negotiation leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:36 PM
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Are there any good aliens? I mean they abducted you, so this is probably better than getting prodded LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:43 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:23 PM
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Yeah, neither is ideal but thanks for understanding the simplicity to isolate the either/or choices. I also appreciate your explanation; food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:23 PM
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Not at all (it's entirely contrived and utterly absurd but asks to weigh in on what's more important when neither choice is great)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:20 PM
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Well ok - I didn't leave out the possibility of hyped up sex toys LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:12 PM
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You will be there alone, hubby stays on Earth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:10 PM
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Well, to be fair, the aliens won't abduct your fiancé with you 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:09 PM
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Didn't say you can't feel lonely without a sexually intimate partner. I said that the absence of a partner is not the definition of feeling lonely since loneliness means a lack of connection to another human. In fact, The American Psychological Association (APA) defines loneliness as the “affective and cognitive discomfort or uneasiness from being or perceiving oneself to be alone or otherwise solitary.” There is ZERO requirement of sex to be able to find connection and address loneliness. In fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:50 PM
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Can speak from experience that European men are so much more desirable (it is not ubiquitous and it's a bit progressive from south to north)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:23 PM
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Not dating doesn't make someone lonely just like fucking someone doesn't take away loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:45 PM
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That means you're not in a relationship, or alone, but not lonely. Lonely means you have lack deep connections. Getting laid doesn't remove loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:36 PM
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Loneliness is lack of deep connection with someone. Someone can include friends and family. Do men who are lonely have an inability to have deep connections with friends and family, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:58 PM
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You're pointing out the thing these men don't want to admit - to them, those OTT men are 'cream of the crop'. The message "women have it so easy" seems to be the presumption that women just want to get a man's attention. Most of us are literally trying to NOT get a man's attention most of the time, or to get away when a man gets you in his 'sights' when it's not 'socializing' time - at the gym, out on a run, sitting and reading a book, spending time with a friend out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:12 PM
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Thats why the whole "everyone is lonely" doesnt make sense. Is this, "I have no friends" or "I don't have access to a sexual partner" lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:42 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:17 PM
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How many women are into you isn’t evidence for or to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:39 PM
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When I was in college and just after for a few years I clubbed a lot. With or without a boyfriend and literally never hooked up with anyone from the clubs. That is where I would go to dance and socialize with my friends - it was a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:34 PM
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Women are into men at the same rate men are into women - but women are perhaps less led by their sexual urges than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:28 PM
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Thank goodness the men I slept with and my husband have rescued me from lesbianism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:27 PM
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They just not into you as much as the boys are. Doesn't mean women aren't into men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:41 PM
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There are so many ugly men with women who love and desire them. Stop this nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:32 PM
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Women aren’t into men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:30 PM
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It’s not common to expect men to pay for a woman’s beauty treatments , sorry. There may be some groups of society where this is a norm but by no means universal even within the same country/culture. The norm of a man paying for a first date is significantly more common and that’s not even close to 100%. Making it seem futile to accept finding compatibility is why men like you feel you can blame women for your own abandonment of your own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:05 PM
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Men and women have the choice to accept or reject being in a relationship with a partner. If that partner is demanding of material attention then the person who feels compelled to spend and doesn't want to should stop spending. As a woman I would not want to be in a relationship with a man who is a fool to spend on frivolous things, ESPECIALLY if he thinks they are things he is trying to use to woo me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:41 PM
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If men are looking for women who are not materialistic then they should choose better. Don't blame the women you choose
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:09 PM
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And if OP encounters men making these decisions, why is any of this commentary on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:12 PM
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Women only come up to the absolute 0.1% of men Such a weird anomaly that as a woman not only have I never only approached a very tiny sliver of the selection of men that make up that tiny fraction, none of my friends have been so restrictive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:24 AM
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I didn't get that memo and approach the men I approached who ranged in looks, physiques, professional backgrounds, countries and cultures. So weird that they still were all the same small group. What are the odds!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:34 AM
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It's a weird statistical anomaly that I only ever approached the small specific group of men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:41 AM
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Women come on to men all the time and get rejected. Or do you feel it's not rejection unless you ask someone out and they say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:32 AM
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Why in this comparison are men merely the objects to be picked or not picked? Do men say yes to every woman who picks him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:12 AM
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YOu can own up to the fact that no one is to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:09 PM
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Not if there's no blame to be assigned. It means owning up for your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:01 PM
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I'm asking another based on your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:49 AM
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Great answer. I think the going consensus is that kids need equal access to both parents so 50/50 is what is best for them. Of course that presumes both parents are stable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:39 AM
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The only correct answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:37 AM
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You don't want your kids to have access to both parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:36 AM
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You hold men responsible for not wanting to date ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:27 AM
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I think we can all agree that if you're an asshole you're not going to be attractive to someone you hope will want to date you. The problem is usually that which makes you an asshole comes with the likelihood you will blame others for what is not their fault even if it's not necessarily yours either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:27 PM
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If he hasn’t succeeded he’s accountable for his own failures. Or do you think every man deserves a participation award?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:17 AM
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Contentless rhetoric = concocted poppy cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:12 AM
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Yes, you asked me to notice that there is at least one unkind woman commenting on every social media post by a man as if it is a great shock that a man can so regularly receive negative comments. As a woman who experiences this and recognizes these unkind comments for women at such a rate it’s a norm I don’t need to be reminded these comments exist. But as a man you are oblivious to the normative woman’s experience as evidenced by your presumption women cannot recognize that men regularly, thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:10 AM
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I didn’t dismiss the experience of some men. I lined it up against the experience of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:25 PM
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It didn’t deserve the attempt to sanesplaine it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:22 PM
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It’s so true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:21 PM
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And men wonder why they repel women when they concoct this poppycock.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:20 PM
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Oh darling, the reality for women is when we succeed or when we fail there are several to many, at times most, men who make very unkind assumptions of her. Not going to join your pity party when you don't even grasp the reality for women in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:10 PM
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Now men who are not getting the girl of their dreams is a victim? This gets both worse and worse and more and more comical
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:03 PM
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You want someone else to take responsibility for him? Wow, I am guess he's unemployable also. I will always reject someone that pathetic and unwilling to adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:02 PM
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Accountability is no longer applicable if a man does his best and fails in getting the attention of women? Are you fucking serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:00 PM
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women are blameless. same as men are blameless. Issues require people to be accountable and self-aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:20 PM
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It feels like the moment a guy expresses sadness or frustration about dating If that's all they were saying, then it would be criticizable for women for presuming these men were bad people or that they are saying they think women are obligated to date men. But in this subreddit, those statements are usually the build up to why it's women's fault or that women don't understand the same sadness and/or frustration with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:59 PM
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And for that on an individual case by case, I can feel sympathy and even empathy. But the new trend is that this experience is generalized, then polarized and becomes fodder for the "all men" vs "all women" blame game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:05 PM
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So men think they are the prize too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:27 AM
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*not all men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:34 AM
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power dynamic of who has more leverage or desire in the relationship more leverage is nearly aways on the man's side. More physical strength, usually more capital and earnings. Social norms lift men to higher levels of credibility so easier to get loans, jobs, opportunities. Women have as much desire as men, or do you think men desire relationships more than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:52 PM
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No, access to options, cultural power to dictate the terms of engaging with them and the power to punish people who deviate from whatever norms they set. That's power. That's power over themselves. No one is required to be a part of 'her power' - which means it's not real power to affect others who are not able to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:48 PM
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Seeking power and "all women inherently believe they should be the prize in date" are not the same. Since humans are equal seekers of power, what is your distinction between men and women seeking power?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:34 PM
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and the next part? How do you come to such a sweeping assumption that any rational person would dismiss just at this first line?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:00 PM
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What does power have to do with it? Seems to be 'the right of refusal' - it's insane how much power we women possess by just saying no (even though our no is most commonly violated, often violently - but then the courts give the power back to the victim ? - such an unfair world for men not getting things without permission and every now and again being held accountable)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:56 PM
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I never would have believed so many men spend so many hours thinking they are somehow disenfranchised by their own ability to attract, relate to, communicate with and become viable partners with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:53 PM
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"power" - you mean the right of refusal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:52 PM
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Women across the board inherently believe that they should be the prize in dating this is clearly your opinion, but you write it as if it were universally accepted fact. How do you come to such a sweeping assumption that any rational person would dismiss just at this first line?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:50 PM
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Weird question to be prompted by my comment. What made you wonder that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:26 PM
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And thus choice to not spend any money and do without is merely a wise decision even if the assessment is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:12 AM
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Why is an informed and discerning “customer “ to blame for not buying subpar products?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:00 AM
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Arguably the toxic conservatism/populism (more nationalist than sexist) was already on the rise from the late 80s in Europe. The current US normal is largely modeled after Orban/Hungary. The US reactionary/fascist normalization is now infusing the “right” across other areas once solidly “egalitarian” and political efforts have come swiftly and decidedly to enshrine the rights of women in legislation. This could be why Orban was ousted since the fundamental cultural norms of Europe are not as ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:59 AM
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In that women are increasingly unwilling to settle for less and are prepared to remain single? Ok. But you don’t “blame” them for that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:45 AM
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Amen. Happily married nearly 29 years. To a man who wants to be with an equal partner without gender assigned roles. Where we fall out is always over partnership disputes and never because of wife/husband issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:16 AM
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Indeed. And now women aren’t even settling for 2nd tier “placeholders”. And the manosphere are blaming us for choosing to stay single rather than settle for meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:12 AM
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Hey woman, I put the toilet seat down now and might even babysit my kids more often. What the fuck more do you want radical feminist bitch?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:08 AM
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If previous women were hopeless to hope for better than shitty and now not only are there some amazing men but good and great men who would be satisfied with less shitty but still shitty enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:06 AM
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I keep reading that GenZ are more and not less assholish and that is bumming me out. My son and his social peers are GenZ and from that happy bubble I have been more optimistic about the future. It could also be regional (I am hoping) since he was raised in Europe. His experience in a US university is that too many of his classmates are dicks but I have chalked that up to his being on the football 🏈 team.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:03 AM
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Omg, will you be my sister wife? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:59 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:58 AM
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“Becoming better” is a progressive improvement. If “good enough” is 60% and men have shifted from 30% to approaching or just over, yet below good, great and excellent, all women are not expected to settle for “passing” are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:56 AM
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Yet shifting the blame to women is the only logical explanation? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:52 AM
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What is 'masculinity'? Being male or being the Marvel Universe version of male?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:21 AM
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SERIOUS QUESTION: why in the world would we legislate dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:19 AM
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How do you experience this phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:11 PM
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And it’s their fault the incels don’t get any because they choose the chads
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:43 PM
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I may or may not have taken this test before (I just did it now, I'm a 7). My 30+ year partner has never taken the test and I don't honestly know if he'd score much differently though I guess I would expect he would? I have always found my husband to be like a 'second self' even though I don't think we're as much the same person. Not sure he'd take test but if he will it will be interesting to find out which type he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:07 AM
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not veiled at all, straight out, run of the mill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:34 AM
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And somehow they think that is just fair. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:17 PM
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I'm always fascinated by how they can spin it to come out that way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:52 PM
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Men, being the privileged group for eons, cannot accept that women have risen to enjoy much of the same privilege. Too many reactionary "manospherists" spend a lot of energy in whipping up the anger towards women to explain the reality that being male and horny just means you are male and horny and not discriminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:42 PM
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He said, “are more accepted into many social circles” Where is the connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:42 AM
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Why is social and societal contact reduced to fucking? People fuck people they connect with. No connection, no fucking. Work on the connection
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:33 PM
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I agree. I am wondering where this “basic knowledge about women’s sexuality “ stems from
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:04 PM
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But you're afraid and do give a fuck about what a random woman might be thinking of you (and probably isn't)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:27 PM
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Why do you think you're being judged by women? What about by men? Do you think you're masculine enough according to the 'norm' by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:07 PM
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Perhaps it's more about you than women? You seem to be insecure and should address that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:06 PM
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Why would men need 'men only spaces'? Serious question
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:51 PM
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Everyone faces problems. So I don't feel that men, who are dominant in modern culture, have problems that need to be given 'grace' for. Those issues that are negative for men are mostly 'solved' by eliminating toxic masculinity. More men should want to fix this for men and not wait for women to fix it for them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:40 PM
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Thank you. The culture that supports the continued sexual violence towards women is something every man and woman can positively contribute to. Men, you do not need to be passive - you can be active in just speaking against the messaging that legitimizes and normalizes violence towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:31 PM
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I don't understand how you decided to pit loyalty against social competence
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:05 PM
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Loyalty is not defined by social competence. Should men who want loyalty from women get together with socially awkward women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:10 PM
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You mean you're attractive enough to pass the thickest beer google filter. That's a pretty low bar. Personally, I would rather be fugly but be attractive to someone who sees me for more than just my superficial, temporary 'aura'. I've definitely been attracted to men in a moment but sober and/or the next day been pretty mortified by what I had thought was attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:12 PM
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Or it means you'll do with what there is available
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:08 PM
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You think women are against their own rights to be equal in the US ? Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:19 PM
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Women were not allowed to be active combat duty until only a decade ago. The current administration is trying to reverse much of the progress for women in the US military including blocking well earned and deserved promotions for women. Let’s also remember that there is rampant sexual harassment and assault by male servicemen which is not prioritized and often ignored. Women want to serve but men keep blocking them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:33 AM
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But she would be limited in what she might want to do and how she would want to serve
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:33 AM
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Why are active servicewomen being removed from their duties?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:37 PM
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Women constantly 'help' - we're caregivers by nature and we're taught that it's our 'job' to take care of family and loved ones. So the aversion to 'being a sex donation' is because it's adverse to human integrity. I think it's biological for more women than men to reserve intimacy to people we care about. Men seems to have an easier time to 'give away sex' because it's more like masturbation with a partner. It cost less to get more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:34 PM
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Not sure how the act of slutshaming - i.e. the person doing it- is playing the victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:08 AM
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Slutshaming is a form of attack. Attacks are harm causing. Not sure what you are referring to re: disagreement
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:44 PM
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I arranged for my own engagement ring which my husband insisted wasn’t applicable until he proposed (even though we were already shopping for venues) We’re a team. The traditions are only important if you agree on them as a team.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:40 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:44 PM
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Women don’t like kids or men? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:38 PM
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You think women today are in a better in society than men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:33 PM
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Women are not the rescuers of society especially when society has not distributed fairly to women. If people want to improve the quality of the future, smaller generations, fix today’s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:17 PM
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Indoctrination and ideology are the motivations to identify as a Trump supporter. That has nothing to do with intelligence and aptitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:06 PM
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Sorry but what? A woman not wanting children is the start of “idiocracy”. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:53 AM
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This should be so flatly, DUH.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:49 AM
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Are we qualifying the amount of harm so that we can dismiss the actual harm as an inconvenience if it’s not harmful enough in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:45 AM
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Of course if you remove the harmful element (a digression?) it is a similar thing. But the fact that you have a harmful element means the hypothetical (requiring the inclusion of the inconvenient “digression”) is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:44 AM
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It’s as if the Red Pill brigade live to normalize their self inflicted victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:50 AM
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Here's a question. What 'guidance' issues do you think should always go to a male figure (for a woman)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:05 AM
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My father and my husband are just two people with lived experience, opinions and ability to offer advice. Both might have great advice (which could even contradict each other ) and neither might have valid advice. I would think my husband was an idiot if he "always" took mine or my MIL's advice over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:04 AM
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I know, right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:01 AM
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It affects it a few percent. Who is deflecting? OP wants a pity party because his premise is that all women only want 10% of the male population - which is BS. Pew shows that of 100% of all men and women , the single stat is exactly the same. Since OP is clearly equating being in a relationship with having sex - which is likely to be more testosterone afflicted in the 'most extreme' demographic - 20-29. But we KNOW that sexually active and in a committed, stable relationship are NOT the same - o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:35 AM
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Pew gives men and women an equal 31% single. In the 20-29 age demographic men are at 51% to women at 29% Meanwhile gay men are also overwhelmingly single which might affect the men (in general) statistic https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/psdt_08-19-20_dating-relationships-015-png/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:31 AM
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This “postulation” has a very strong incel energy. This is the 10% Chad thing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:22 AM
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Big ick energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:33 PM
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Victim mentality. Loser
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:28 PM
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Dude if you're ugly on the outside or the inside or both - you are rejected. Hard truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:20 PM
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Find me one law which claims that these are human rights, the truth is there is nothing called human rights in nature and most of these so called human rights are just modern inventions created to control the masses from rebelling. Besides the dizzying contradictions bouncing off of one another, yes, all laws are 'inventions' and nearly everyone in the world fundamentally believes that each human should be free and on equal footing to pursue a life of happiness, liberty and healthy lives. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:18 PM
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Not sure how that's not clear. Aggression is not ever to be 'dismissed' by 'get over it'
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:58 PM
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Already did since I am taller
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:11 PM
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So why won’t you know who your kid’s teacher is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:10 PM
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Knowing fundamentals, like your child’s teacher, isn’t arbitrary. Fathers who make no effort to learn the daily lives of their children are willingly incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:26 AM
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Hallelujah. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:23 AM
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They all always channel their inner Spock
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:01 AM
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NOW doesn’t agree with mandatory 50/50 custody (I disagree with them) not that they are against shared custody
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:00 AM
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I’m glad that you recognize men’s and women’s issues are real. What do you think the most serious men’s issue is that is made worse by women caring about women’s issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:52 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:48 PM
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manosphere “logic” is a misnomer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:48 PM
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You don’t understand that the reason someone attacks you is irrelevant when it’s a norm. And attacking is never as trivial as “insulting “ even if the attack is also intended to insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:45 PM
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Why do people care about being treated like worthless garbage that can be used and discarded? You really don’t understand why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:29 PM
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Saying harmful things about women isn’t taboo so you get pushback. You want to dismiss the harm that stereotypes and negative generalizations cause women as frivolous. But I am sure you are going to feel victimized by my response and chalk it up to the silliness women perform. Off you go and play
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:07 PM
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I pushed back on your dismissing judgmental generalisation as 'taboo' when it's real world problematic not touchy feely emotional. Is your example of 'taboo' is "saying 'unflattering' things to women"? If so, and you don't care to address my challenge to your self annointed 'axiom', then the crossroads is where we stand and I'm moving on. Or is there another taboo you've listed that I missed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:54 PM
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you aren't supposed to say things which are unflattering to women as a group Unflattering can be interpreted to apply to an inordinate number of interpretations. Usually unflattering is based on superficial judgement, like, those glasses are unflattering on your face because it does not harmonize with your face shape. Or you chew with your mouth open when you eat. When you criticize groups using 'unflattering' generalization, open based on stereotypes and tropes, you will always get pushback. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:59 AM
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Can you give us something tangible as an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:48 PM
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I’m not on tik tok so how about another reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:46 PM
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So without that, not “fat” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:44 PM
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That’s your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:43 PM
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Define a “fat woman “
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:30 PM
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All fat women say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:28 PM
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It's how they break shit and blame others
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:02 PM
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A woman is never not ready for a relationship, if the right guy comes along they will give themselves up to him. That is such moronic nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:49 AM
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Dismissing the misconception that moving towards equality must be a zero sum is not empty rhetoric. Unless you don't understand the relevance. Then it's your go to retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:16 AM
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It’s an insult? To a man’s intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:42 PM
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https://www.breakthecycle.org/domestic-violence-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:19 PM
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1 of 2 women report being the victim of domestic violence. They manage to affect 50% of the female population in a violent way in what should be a safe place with the 'protector'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:06 PM
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willingly causing mental or physical harm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:35 PM
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A great representation of men are abusive, violent, harassers (just look at the men in the current administration and in the GOP in Congress - local government, police enforcement)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:29 PM
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Exactly - it's like the same MO as the Mafia protection
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:26 PM
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How do you combat this rise in Christian Sharia in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:25 PM
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Does that include the version that is dressed up in Christianity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:08 PM
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Excellent question. The only 'evidence' of it is in your OP statement. That quote is directly from it. Maybe you can tell me what your quote is doing for your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 06:47 AM
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that's your argument in your OP. If that is an example of how you establish the validity of your statement, well...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:24 AM
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It's one of those "Women aren't smart enough to know what best for them, which is men telling them what's best for them and their not understanding is proof that only men know what's best - which is actually genuinely better than anything they could come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:55 PM
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Because of course they do. is this an example of the "timelessly valid" arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:52 PM
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In that it's the same thing with a different author and a few different choices of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:39 PM
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I’m wondering when these benefits begin. It’s taking awfully long. One of the easiest to quantify is the first case RBG brought before the supreme court. A man who was caring for his dying mom was denied the benefits that were reserved for women to care for family. That was a LOOOOOONG time ago women could pick up arms today and overthrow everything. Huh? Do you think that women feel they are enslaved and unable to be independent if they choose? Men and women would love to rise up against the Ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:38 PM
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Feminism is about removing the fundamental 'truths' of what is gendered - which is why men benefit from feminism too. If women and men are not superior to each other. Women don't get a better position, they get an equal one - men don't lose anything, they only gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:51 PM
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This is a slightly redecorated version of the same Red Pill ideology isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:48 PM
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Feminism isn't zero sum. And feminism isn't to benefit women - it's to remove the male superiority fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:37 AM
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Is this a debate? Sounds like something that you want and will be happy with. What’s to disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:34 PM
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So no one tells you, you just know. Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:39 PM
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Same reason they randomly tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:06 PM
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I agree there are men who think this way, but I don't think these men represent a large percentage of men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:05 PM
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And in my experience I don't know a single man or woman who confirm that if a man doesn't pay on a first date they won't be interested. Anecdotal evidence is only as true as your own anecdotal range
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:20 PM
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Or the "it's my way or the highway" and no woman wants that without a trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:16 PM
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But it's not 'true' regardless whether you're a man or woman. Women do not think this is true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:15 PM
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The irony is that as a woman, you can be honest about only wanting a guy to buy you a drink with no promises for anything in return, and it works probably more often than men being dishonest to try for sex. A favorite quote: “Eaten up with guilt, shame, fears and insecurities and obtaining, if he's lucky, a barely perceptible physical feeling, the male is, nonetheless, obsessed with screwing; he'll swim a river of snot, wade nostril-deep through a mile of vomit, if he thinks there'll be a friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:07 PM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:57 PM
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RPers are too stuck in some bruh psychology thinking they are among the chosen few who are even capable of seeing the world as it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:56 PM
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The “hearing” part implies the unwillingness to comprehend, process, reflect and expand your thoughts beyond the limits you allow to constrain yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:36 PM
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I'm confused, are we speaking in general or about your own current/past/potentially future relationship? Personally, I am speaking generically about the concept of partnering, creating a child together and then deciding to not being partners anymore. You also say it wasn't the agreement but that's why it's important to not have an agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:00 PM
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That is the value. Calculated on a monetary way which is the best way to calculate value humans came up with. If you go the surrogate route, that is the value. If you go the partnership route (with or without calling it marriage) then you enter the partnership in agreement that what you build while together is common assets. If you come into the partnership and avoid kids entirely, then it's easier to assign the percentage of dividend/asset distribution. . If actual love was there then she would…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:43 PM
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Most of the moms/dads I know share work and child care pretty equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:40 AM
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I believe it is not worth half of everything I own. It's half of everything you BOTH own. You began a partnership together as a marriage. If the 'value' of the exwife/mother of children is equal to what you would pay a caregiver and even a surrogate, then that would have been a more honest contract to enter. 100% of the responsibility for the upbringing, health, care, welfare of the children would be only on you (since it would not be beyond the contractual duties of an employee). The benefits y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:31 AM
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But you keep your 401K and all income you are entitled to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:24 AM
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No, that's just the current 'theory' of the manosphere / red pill cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:17 AM
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What people don't understand, mostly because in society we emphasize the 'breadwinner' as the key person to a family that survives. But that's only because we changed the fundamental structure of the nuclear family. We need to get people to see each nuclear family as the mom&pop farmer family. They both live and work on the farm. They have kids together. How do they 'survive'? Well - they manage the farm and life on the farm. What needs to be done everyday? Basic stuff - making sure everyone sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:46 AM
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It's like they don't even hear it themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:20 AM
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Maybe he's saying if he cheats, he gets nothing - nah, he means it the way you described it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:09 AM
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Better yet, you work at a company, you have your salary and you pay into your 401K. You give notice to change jobs. They don't ask for your salary back and they don't take your 401K - unless you're a married. woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:07 AM
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"manager" - eh, yeah you do. You have your husband, you MIL, your mother/family, the neighbors and society. "set schedule" - do you realize what a luxury that is? "performance reviews" see above, add kids' opinion "raised kids with no clue" is equal to "not hard" - don't know where to begin on that most clueless, ignorant and arrogant statement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:03 AM
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I have no definitions beyond the OP's
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:35 PM
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According to me isn't worth much here. I'm not the OP and I'm not fully versed in any of the definitions But I understood the OP to mean there is Red Pill Ideology Everything outside of red pill ideology = blue pill - but only as a "not red pill" Red Pill = Men's singles tennis per rules 2026 Blue Pill = Women's singles tennis, men's doubles, mixed doubles AND every other sport INCLUDING men's singles tennis per rules 2020 and before (give a little margin). So according to me (and my understandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:23 PM
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Thank you for providing the clarification, I'm not fully in tune with the 'nuances' of Red Pill ideology. 1. Yes. Just applied to another day and age. 2. Advice for men on how to 'get the girl' is centered on devised tactics rather on improving or tweaking how someone is already naturally. It's a form of manipulation. But so is marketing. Hopefully the product the woman is buying is not a lemon .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:13 PM
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ANY dating advice for (straight) men is based on how to behave so that the man will get the romantic/sexual connection that he wants. does that include all red pill advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:04 AM
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I think your Romeo narrative is cut from the same mentality as the modern red pill mentality - it bases itself on how to manipulate women to doing what the man wants. That is why the 'shower her with romantic gestures' is largely akin to stalking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:17 AM
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Like ethnic English, ethnic Irish, ethnic Italian, ethnic, German, ethnic Pacific Islander?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:54 PM
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There are no Americans abroad who get to choose to live on a military base. Housing on bases is reserved for military. The US immigrants in these countries just foreigners who migrated to that country to live permanently - if they have the right authority to stay that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:25 PM
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And? The culture he best represents is the US and the wealthy and powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:23 PM
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What is a 'dangerous' country? People without authorization to stay in the countries they want to migrate to already are not allowed to stay. My female friends, of which sadly most of us have experienced some form of SA, experience it from men that are part of our culture. The problem we have comes from within in. Trying to deflect the problem to fearing outsiders doesn't help women stop the SA from the people that are our family, friends, neighbors, teachers, coaches, politicians, police etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:22 PM
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Good comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:31 AM
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Ah, that's how you reduce it. Seeing your flair, I understand better, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:24 AM
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there's a social movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:45 AM
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By all means, call women “man child “ when they get angry and pout when they don’t get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:39 AM
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It’s nice to reminisce. Sounds you are a bit jealous of Bezos
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:33 AM
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Would you take your ball and go home if you didn't like the rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:53 PM
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How is OP right from "an anthropological point of view."?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:51 PM
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Act like a child can be something like get angry and pout when you don't get your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:45 PM
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That would be an incredibly mature child. Most mature than these Man Babies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:11 PM
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I don’t associate either of those things as petulant childish behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:02 PM
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Does Jeff Bezos act like a child? I don’t know him. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:54 PM
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For me a 'man child' is a man who behaves like a child. How much money he makes isn't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:05 PM
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Someone needs to put them in their place. Using this structure gives you away to being exactly who you say you are not. It's quite entertaining to see the prime example present a piece that were it satirical it would be brilliant. The funniest part is that you got played, by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:06 PM
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I will apply similar simplistic dismissiveness to the “downsides” to the superior command of the “tool” Selling your body as a commodity is not always legal and even when, the risks are significant - yet the existence selling sex as a tool exists. Using violence as a commodity is not always legal but it still exists. And it can be legal as body guards, bouncers and intimidation. Women with weapons are still at a physical disadvantage to men so violence isn’t really as easy for them as for men. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:52 AM
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Thank you for making it plainer. You identify one available tool when people are desperate that you say is more accessible to all women than to all men. Men have disproportionately easier access to using physical violence (bigger and stronger) to navigate starvation. They can steal, run , break and hurt which makes their lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:30 AM
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You made it clear that you recognize that men have the same backup option but dismiss that as valid because it doesn’t argue against the ability to have sex if you’re starving. Did I get that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:17 AM
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Correct. And American immigrants are frustrated as being seen as uncivilized as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:27 AM
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Since I literally am a member of a right of center political party, that excludes me by definition from being “leftist”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:14 PM
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I'm progressive for sure. I wouldn't identify as leftist however. So the labeling thing makes it hard to debate your line of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:36 AM
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where is the line to separate left and right? In the US I am left of center, in Sweden I am right of center
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:19 AM
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Male allies who don’t reply “not all men” retorts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:48 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:37 AM
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Epstein was American 🇺🇸
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:33 AM
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Good that you are not a “not all men” guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:32 AM
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These men don't think they are either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:49 PM
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because the justification for it is that it's a male cultural thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:49 PM
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You want to ban men from any country entering every other country?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:47 PM
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Had not heard of this. I'm stunned by how depraved this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:46 PM
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Maternal mortality in the US is roughly 23 per 100,000 births. Infant mortality for boys is higher than that. The person giving birth is statistically safer than the baby boy being born. Wow, it must be horrific to consider the statistics of infant mortality rate for boys compared to maternal mortality in Switzerland which has 1.2 deaths per 100,000 births.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:22 PM
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Why lecture? Just get on with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:20 PM
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“she got consent via dubious method. She is a rapist plain and simple.” If a man says he respects her before she has sex with him but he doesn’t he’s also a rapist? Any lie contingent will given consent is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:03 PM
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Eh. No. Not what male privilege or white privilege is founded upon. If you care to educate yourself I will be happy to discuss. Not interested in trying to “convince” you so not doing that if you want to “defend” this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:36 PM
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What exactly is 'unfair' about dating for men that is blamed on women (where the 'fix' is needed - ethically)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:18 PM
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It's so strange that people find any of those things 'normal'
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:33 AM
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Are you an incel or an incel apologist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:17 PM
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the subject? of this discussion (see the title) or your own feelings of inadequacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:16 PM
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To be clear, discrimination laws apply to hiring and firing of men and women protected by the US Constitution even with privately owned companies operating in the US. Are we in agreement or do you want to continue this sad deflection from the OP's point that sad, mad men and their pity parties are pathetic? Or maybe you agree that men who are not attracting the women they want to fuck are to be pitied? Regardelss, let's just keep on topic which is the only logical way to debate. Keep your emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:15 PM
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are you a sex communist who thinks loser men have a right to fuck women cuz otherwise it's unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:05 PM
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Your company hires from the public pool of employees and must follow the laws of the US regarding hiring practices. Or do you think involuntary unemployeed people have a right to hate you because while they don't have the experience and training they have a right to be hired by you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:03 PM
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Can you understand the difference between public and private choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:40 PM
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The same reason no one should force you to eat vegetables once you're at an age of majority Or tell you who can vote for what your favorite color should be which music you want to listen to which films you are allowed to or must watch Do you think you don't have a right to choose your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:00 PM
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the black and white of OP's point that I support 100% is that no man has a right to 'access' to women from a 'fairness doctrine' argument. Can we sympathize with the role of superficial advantages/disadvantages (skin, eye, hair color, body shape, age, social and physical ability) in the sexual partnering game? Sure. But that's not on women to accommodate for men with these perceived disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:57 AM
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Life isn't fair, but the way we organize our society, the access to our collective, the legal structure put in place for everyone - that should be fair wouldn't you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:43 AM
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older generations, will tell you dating didn't use to be this hard. This is probably true, but that is largely because women were not in positions to oppose things they didn't agree with or like. The biggest development is that women no longer need marriage to legitimize and enable their existence as adults. This seems to be the central 'issue' the 'It's so unfair for men" because women want more from her potential partner than what she could expect in bygone days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:40 AM
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Why shouldn't fairness be considered in sexuality? How do you define 'fairness in sexuality'?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:34 AM
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In order for a society to function, its members need to treat each-other fairly. Fairly is applied in your sentence in a way that is generically acceptable. In that context, the broad swath, it's true. When applied to the manosphere mentality that is based largely on OP's statement, "I don’t know who promised men that they are owed a woman, whether that is a relationship, multiple partners, or something casual, simply for existing. But whoever said that was lying" If there is a finite amount of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:16 AM
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OP your statement is one that is hard for red pill advocates to disagree with so it will be interesting to see if they can manage it in a way that isn't just spouting manosphere nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:08 AM
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No. The reason I was not interested is because they were often old enough to be my father. If that’s self hate, I will take it. But your presumption is a judgy, weird in a creepy way, take on it. What makes you think you can speak to strangers that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:40 PM
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That I should be interested in people I wasn’t interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:12 PM
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The people who were most eager to date me were never my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:43 PM
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The OP wants to maintain his status as a married man AND cheat AND feel he's not an asshole. That's the part that is in debate. If he wants to be honest, he would accept his asshole cheating status and just do what he's going to do, as he said he would. He also said he doesn't care. But he DOES care. He doesn't want to be an asshole and he's trying to use logic wizzardry to sooth himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:21 PM
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That's not true even just legally, divorces take years and even the courts differentiate "separation" from "marriage contract legally dissolved". In many legal jurisdictions, legal separation is recognized as no longer bound to the marriage contract. OP has not indicated either of them has moved towards this change in their marriage. That means OP is cheating in full light, but still cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:06 PM
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There is. You have free will, you do whatever you want. You can revoke your consent at any time for anything. Then the contract is moot. But marriage contracts might not let either party dissolved the contract legally in which case, the contract is never moot. Until the contract is legally dissolved, sex outside of the marriage is cheating. The cheating can be up front, displayed, bragged about - but it remains cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:51 PM
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Certainly not. Two people in a mutually consenting agreement can choose to dissolve that agreement (which would be divorce in the case of marriage, should the legal system allow for it). Sometimes the motivating factor is breaking the originally agreed upon conditions. In the case of marriage, which is a legal contract based on legal jurisdiction of where they entered into this contract, there are different legal conditions required to stay married and dissolve the marriage. As you say, that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:38 PM
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The 'rule' that is being broken was written into an agreement between two people. Those two write the rule. If ONE person breaks the rule, they have broken the rule. If the other person does not agree that breaking the rule is ok, then you are not 'exonerated' from having broken the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:07 PM
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this isn't technically cheating if you're honest about it How do you rationalize that? if I'm honest that I'm stealing it's still stealing. if I admit I lied, I still lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:44 PM
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I mean after writing this, I realized youre probably another dull foreigner and who knows if you even make vows to be faithful "in my country", so its probably a waste of typing Foreigner? Reddit isn't a country.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:41 PM
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Yes it is. Admitting you're cheating doesn't make it less cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:18 PM
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And don't cheat. You're cheating even though you're trying to fool yourself into thinking you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:14 PM
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Yep. And if she didn't like having sex with you before you cheated you should have renegotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:13 PM
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Perhaps she is dissatisfied with her husband's sexual performance. That's a valid reason to not want to have sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:54 AM
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Your opinion is something you have a right to. You have no right to unilaterally define societal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:53 AM
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Those are two of the many ways to disrespect your partner. Cheating is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:52 AM
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Did what first? Sexual intimacy between a husband and wife is something the two of them negotiate. If either of them is dissatisfied with being married, then they need to make a decision. If he is dissatisfied with the sexual relations with his wife he has many options. Convincing himself and trying to convince us that a one-sided change of the rules is not cheating is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:51 AM
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Why would that be a standard to maintain? Age, time schedule, interest etc are all valid reasons. If either of you is dissatisfied with the frequency or conditions, then it might be time for a renegotiation of terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:49 AM
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Ok. That's a perfectly acceptable state for you to exist in. But you are arguing that you are not cheating when you are. Being honest about cheating doesn't stop it from being cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:46 AM
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which words? Words related to committing to your legal marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:44 AM
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We all agree. But you want to clear your conscience. And you can't. Because you're still cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:43 AM
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No one has any authority to 'stop' you from your choices (if not illegal or harmful). That's not in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:42 AM
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It's wrong to hide it and it's wrong to disrespect your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:40 AM
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You intend to disrespect your wife because you know you can abuse her without consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:38 AM
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Is there a timeline where not consenting to sex (for reasons neither of us know) is equal to 'breaking the agreement'?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:37 AM
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it is cheating by definition since the person who entered the relationship based on monogamy has not agreed to new terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:34 AM
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Cheating is when you go against your original agreement. As a couple you can update the conditions. But if only one side signs off, then you are still cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:32 AM
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since you unilaterally changed the original conditions of the partnership, you are in breach of the agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:31 AM
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as long as the woman you are with is ok with it, then both of you are consenting to an open relationship. Or are you arguing you don't have to be honest either?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:30 AM
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Because you have the right to have sex with anyone who consent to it, you don't need permission from your partner to do it. You just need to inform them. As long as your partner has signed off to this condition then you are not being dishonest. If your partner believes that your relationship means monogamy and exclusivity to one another, then you are cheating. Your partner cannot tell you what to do with your body, but your partner has conditions to remain your partner. If you breach those condi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:27 AM
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Which society has that as the expectation? Because even within a society there is a great variation of 'expectation'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:27 PM
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It’s important that men continue to push back against attempts to change the default. It's equally important, if not more important for women to push to establish that a first date is a split bill by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:23 PM
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Sending soldiers made up of men and women is not equal to using children as instruments of coercion. Merely equating a potential death in both cases is not logically accurate. Soldiers are participants, the child is object that receives the death sentence. In the 'war' scenario, the spoils of war would be the right to execute the baby of the losing side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:37 PM
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Because welfare of children is one of the most important motivational factor behind the behaviour of women. Children are disposable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:54 AM
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