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Right? It's an extremely manipulative and opportunistic term
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 07:31 AM
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The real issue is that men take personally the opinion of shallow women, men internalize insecurity about height, looks, hair, money instead of framing these women as shallow.
/r/MensRights10/09/25 10:03 AM
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Not sure what you mean by the "nature of women", most women like most men are nice people, and even then they're prone to being "evil", it's a human thing. OP, don't give a whole gender power of your life.
/r/MensRights06/09/25 04:58 PM
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You're right but also you can't deny the strong push for female empowerment, one that use men as a milestone.
/r/MensRights06/09/25 02:17 PM
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Caring too much about relationships, having it occupy so much of your mind, is a symptom of psychological struggle, no relationship will fix that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/25 10:10 AM
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Wait I'm confused, what does stopping working have to do with breaking gender roles?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 12:29 PM
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Is that all there is to your life? Getting loved by a woman? So what? What happens if you have no partner?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 11:51 AM
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It's because men know no other lifestyle than being an expendable sacrificer, traditional masculinity is so rigid and deep rooted that men feel threatened when you suggest another path.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 09:55 AM
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Completely agreed, the lengths some men go through just to fuck and get female approval is concerning.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 05:06 PM
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The world's headed towards a misandrist future
/r/MensRights25/08/25 05:31 PM
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Abuse towards men is so deep rooted and prevalent in society even humour is contaminated by it "he'll be sleeping in the couch tonight" "You don't win an argument against your wife" Men should give backlash to it
/r/MensRights15/08/25 12:01 PM
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This has nothing to do with men's right, I really don't want this movement to be taken over by misogynists? Why? Cause it's not about women.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 09:21 PM
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See? You're trying too hard to paint them as evil and that's why I love it. Just so we're clear, advocating for traditional gender roles is totally acceptable and not immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:35 AM
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Nah it's not even that, just Red Pillers giving dating advice gets people riled up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:54 AM
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I see more people talking about Red pillers than actual red pillers, even when I try to look up red pill content. It's fascinating how such small group, through words alone, get people on the internet so pissed, especially women. I don't agree with the red pill, but I love its existence, keeps things spicy, if you're a red piller, never stop pushing your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:35 AM
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So a bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:29 AM
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Because women are humans, and humans aren't purely logical, emotions such as insecurity, naivety, unworthiness shape our choices more than we'd like to admit, and who knows who the right is anyway. OP, stop thinking that we live in a meritocratic, fair, reasonable world.
/r/MensRights12/08/25 01:56 PM
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Discrimination against men is too deep rooted into us that no one can spot it, it has something to do with men being the "dominant" gender therefore having to take the discrimination otherwise they're "fragile"
/r/MensRights10/08/25 06:34 PM
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Too petty, I'd rather focus on helping men
/r/MensRights05/08/25 12:04 PM
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r/psychology for me
/r/MensRights27/07/25 01:56 PM
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Humans generally like females more
/r/MensRights24/07/25 11:03 AM
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I guess assertiveness is one of many ways to manipulate, what I'm trying to say is it's difficult to distinguish the charming from the confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:30 PM
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The average male redditor is a male feminist, in that they say they're feminists but really just want to fuck every female that's hopefully alive and over age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:29 PM
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You're using insecurity as an umbrella term, it's not exclusive to assertiveness and dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:25 PM
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Real
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:05 PM
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Do we all agree that boys are parented much worse than girls? It's not easy raising boys, you're just a shit parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:57 PM
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Bullcrap If it were true, virgin and incel wouldn't be an insult, same with slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:35 PM
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What's remembered about them doesn't matter nearly as much as how they're treated in their lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:17 PM
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... people on here never fail to amaze me with their stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:16 PM
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Literally is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:10 PM
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Men's value is based on how many women he attracts, in order to live up to it, he's going to fuck as many women as possible without any emotional investment. Men are encouraged to treat women like pieces of meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:26 PM
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If a man's social worth is intimately tied to his ability to attract women then don't blame him for treating women as objects
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:59 PM
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God that quote is so cringe
/r/MensRights12/07/25 09:29 AM
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It just baffles me how quick people are to generalize one man's behaviour to all men
/r/MensRights12/07/25 08:01 AM
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Not caring is better
/r/MensRights10/07/25 07:56 PM
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The idea that we're in full control of our actions is outdated, it's why depressed people don't just think happy thoughts, societal conditioning plays a huge part, emotional well being too. You may shrug this off as "feeling sorry for yourself", but that'd be very short sighted and anti progress.
/r/MensRights10/07/25 11:35 AM
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Naive
/r/MensRights10/07/25 05:55 AM
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And get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:58 PM
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Anyone else notice women don't take criticism well? Matter of fact, they don't take it all. They say men get defensive when they're criticised, well yeah, they actually consider the fact they're in the wrong, most of them aren't (most men aren't sexually impulsive) and obviously have to defend themselves from false accusations Women hear criticism and they're like "yes, women need to do better" what they mean is "yes, other women should do better", it doesn't even cross their mind that they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:33 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:13 PM
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God, women are stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:12 PM
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"no u"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:40 PM
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Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:29 PM
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DAMN Tiktok is so misandrist, I thought Reddit was misandrist but Tiktok is on another level Why do y'all think social media turned misandrist all of a sudden
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:15 PM
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Aww
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:30 AM
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Does anyone else notice the disparity between how much men and women complain? And I think I understand it Women bitch and moan all the fucking time, it makes up most of their dialogue, they're such an emotional burden, far from being "wonderful" as the narrative is pushed Men on the other hand are pretty chill, rarely complain and shove it down, unfortunately, to not burden others, yet they say women are the emotional backbone, laughable It's simply because of how people react to them, a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:58 AM
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Deeply rooted misandry
/r/MensRights06/07/25 07:30 AM
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Cause most people are immature and shallow, why think deeply when you can win the conversation throwing insults. The male ego is also a deeply rooted social norm, and people love to damage it, moreover women are the protected, vulnerable gender, they get to be emotionally offended.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 02:14 PM
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Nah that doesn't work anymore, women want to hijack all attention and resources that a movement for men is "oppositional'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:26 PM
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Menslib gives a "let's tame men so they don't bother women anymore" vibe Only MRA truly cares for men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:12 PM
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Fuck menslib
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:09 PM
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You're seriously seriously stupid if you think MRA is misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:06 PM
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Wrong, wrong, and idiots like you are the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:30 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:04 PM
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Let me guess, this only applies to conservative subs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:56 PM
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Apparently commenting on the MRA sub gets you banned in certain subs lol, if one more bitch says Reddit is misogynistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:50 PM
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I got perma banned from r/psychology because I pointed out the misandry of a comment, it's nice to know how fragile minded and cowardly Redditors and mods are, but the problem is I can't spread awareness of misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:16 AM
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This is borderline ragebaiting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:35 PM
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I love Reddit, or the idea of it, a forum for discussion of various topics, it's just that I wish it was less gynocentric and misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:23 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:19 PM
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The lowest of the scum of men, the most desparate basement dwelling loser gooners Ayy, you got a shout-out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:03 PM
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On reddit, women can do no wrong and shall never be insulted. If she does something bad, she's a victim of the patriarchy If you point out a woman's wrongdoing, you "have a chip on your shoulder".....ok? lol If you complain about the women you dated, you're the "common denominator", never heard such a thing said for women If you complain about not dating, then women don't owe you anything, men should be better and more generous at dating tho If you post something making fun of women (fat, high b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:19 PM
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That...that was your idea of beautiful lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:58 PM
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And the rest are "men are such an ugly creature"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:37 AM
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Women are an incredibly emotional and irrational creature, they're not really mature as people say, they will resort to insults when their ego gets hurt. You're fine, marry whoever fits your standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:02 AM
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Do we all agree that this thread was just an opportunity for misandrists to spout sexist stuff, every "women are more attractive" thread leads to "men are so ugly and ignorant", not to mention that talking openly about male superiority in any field would get you in big trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:15 AM
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That page shows how privileged women are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:03 AM
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Straight women, what do you think of this man He's a very good looking man, your type and actively tries to dress and groom for you (you decide what he does with the beard, how much muscle and leanness he has, clothing..etc) He's a stay at home husband, he does an incredible job at maintaining the house, he's an excellent cook. He's a great conversationalist, he's very kind and caring, very emotional intelligent and overall intelligent, he helps you navigate your emotions when you need to, he li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:00 AM
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Do you mean naturally good looking? You can't improve that. I take it a job is the only reason to dress well, otherwise dress like an average Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:06 PM
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Exactly, so men should only dress well when they wanna ask out someone, it doesn't get them attention, compliments or anything, hence it's ridiculous to participate in such endeavour
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:14 PM
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So men should dress some women can pick em? Sounds like the exact thing society is trying to rid women of
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:02 PM
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That's not the sentiment most women share, and most men don't care that you dress different, dressing good as a man only in anticipation for the time you want to ask out someone is nothing short of laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:24 PM
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Not what I asked, I asked if you'd approach
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:18 PM
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The fashionable man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:16 PM
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Will you approach this man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:13 PM
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My whole point is that you won't stand out much, the only men who stand out are tall men and men with good facial features, you will literally not gain anything by dressing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:02 PM
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Why should the average man do any more effort than average?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:56 PM
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Is this gonna be a case where you cling to the extreme to make an argument? Are all haircuts and shoes fashionable or goofy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:51 PM
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Then you're too deep in the whole to realise there's an escape
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:46 PM
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Literally specified that I'm not talking about basic hygiene, you know you can look average, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:46 PM
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Your circle sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:41 PM
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Why would a man take care of the way he looks? I'm not talking about basic hygiene, I'm talking a great wardrobe, high level grooming and the whole nine. Men don't get rewarded the same for looking good as women, many people consider these men either gay or overcompensating (tf?), men don't get the same feedback for grooming so it's unlikely that it forms a habit or create a personal value. And please don't say "they should do it for themselves" most men aren't interested in looking good, they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:36 PM
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I mean they are the committers of crime. The things you mentioned causes certain men to commit more crime as opposed to other men Test causes men to commit more crime as opposed to women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:23 PM
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These cause more crime amongst men, test causes more crimes amongst genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:17 PM
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The shocking revelation is that test is the driver of many crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:06 PM
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Brother, I'm pinching the bridge of my nose reading this, it's not about you, it's not about me, it's about men who can't manage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:02 PM
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20 to 30 times less, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:35 PM
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Testosterone is the primary driver of sex drive, aggression and emotional bluntness, stuff that most women don't struggle with. Yeah, they were cool in the past but it doesn't seem to be compatible with the modern world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:32 PM
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Look brother, I didn't intend to threaten your manlihood, but you're ignoring all the damage it does to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:24 PM
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Why not? If it causes such bad things how is it not an evolutionary imperfection?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:13 PM
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Even at healthy amount it still seems to have the mentioned negative results
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:03 PM
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Is testosterone a curse? It increases threat sensitivity, anger, lowers verbal expression, increases aggression and irritability, and blunts empathy, it also increases libido, which is not necessarily a good thing. It's quite incompatible with the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:54 PM
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You only spoke of hormones, if hormones were equalised would attraction also equalise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:34 PM
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Checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:26 PM
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What about the whole egg vs sperm thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:22 PM
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What school did you study biology at?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:18 PM
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I feel like this thread was made by OP to cope with the misery that is female life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:41 PM
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My thought exactly, female Redditors have extremely uncommon and niche "types"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:59 AM
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It would indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:58 PM
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It would indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:58 PM
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What kind of man would say no to the woman you described?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:44 PM
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If you're whole shtick is putting things in my mouth then talk to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:19 PM
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Doesn't that mean women's standards are too high? if youre making less than 250k a year, im sorry honey, but thats poor. Fuck outta here Are you saying poor men are entitled to women? cause thats not how it works. People can marry whoever the hell they want, no one's entitled to anyone, though your definition of poor is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:41 PM
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Your false dichotomy is stupid, youth and fertility are achieved by most women and are usually provided by men too, financial stability (rich) isn't achieved by most men. That being said, we're both speaking from experience here, but I see people frown more about men expressing their standards than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:35 PM
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Jealousy is very difficult to admit to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:25 AM
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No it isn't? Are you stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:39 AM
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This is about as smart and nuanced as you can get on this sub, embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:25 AM
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There's no way you think this is usable reliable data 💀😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:22 AM
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A Red piller?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:28 PM
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Gay jokes? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:53 PM
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😯
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:49 PM
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Women don't get support just from their "support system", you're naive if you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:49 PM
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That you seemed to think building a clique answers the question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:46 PM
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And are you arguing against having friends?! No? You get that someone who is considering to your girlFRIEND might wanna be sure you are friendship material in the first place, right?! I'm not talking about relationships at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:44 PM
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Yep, there's the "it's just you" crowd missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:36 PM
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Oof here comes the "it's just you" crowd “every guy outside our crew is competition” Yeah, there's the problem. It's still so primitively tribal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:35 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:07 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:53 PM
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Innate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:46 PM
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Pretty relevant actually, I don't build my point on a minority of people who built an online community
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:45 PM
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Yeah, let's have some awareness in realising that the manosphere isn't how men act irl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:41 PM
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What you said doesn't really warrant a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:40 PM
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You seem to track down every gender related problem to the ✨patriarchy✨
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:37 PM
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Only in fanfics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:35 PM
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You're all awesome, girls, have a very lovely day with lots of sunshine Yup, just about proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:33 PM
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How did this make you feel weird when quicker than men do. Women have a victim narrative they can bond over. You're being perfectly described here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:31 PM
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Well when men are wrong, usually men don't support them but women do in case of women. That's true (I guess) but only if you limit it to ethical dilemmas, you won't see men protecting a man the same way women protect women. But all of that leaves out the strength of female bonding outside of ethical dilemmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:29 PM
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And men have a higher tendency to punch eachother in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:23 PM
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No, not "by my logic", men aren't the victims or at least don't see themselves that away. Not everyone shares feminist's hatred for the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:22 PM
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Can you elaborate on how exactly being logical comes in the why if stronger same-sex bonds? Sounds like a smart thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:20 PM
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Not necessarily, it's the fact that when a man is dangerous, it's actually danger, women are physically harmless for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:17 PM
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How the man thinks of himself, if he's a perfect person who thinks he'll be treated like a loser, if he's a bum who thinks highly of himself he'll be treated like the perfect person
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:33 PM
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You should draw the distinction between appealing to your wife and appealing to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:42 AM
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Men who torture themselves to appeal to the opposite gender are lost causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:32 AM
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Men don't have the EI required for the modern women, working ok EI to get a relationship seems disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:28 AM
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As I said, you don't work hard for strangers to be courteous to you, to take your side during confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:25 AM
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By judging them for body count? Men get judged too for being virgins, even harsher By paying them less? Women have more spending power By devaluing home duties and having children? Women can choose not to have children, no one is forcing them By stopping / disrespecting them from having autonomy over their bodies? At least they're not dying in wars Or by judging them for being “weaker”? Who judged women for being weaker? If anything, that's an advantage in today's world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:20 AM
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I do, equally that is. I don't favour women like society does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:15 AM
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Point it out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:14 AM
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The fuck? Who said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:13 AM
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Well whatever courtesy you've received from either, men receive lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:11 AM
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Nope, women don't really work for the extra courteousness they receive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:09 AM
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Yes we should, unfortunately people are more courteous to women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:08 AM
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Which reminds me, people still think talking to women is some sort of achievement or arbitrator of success and value 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:55 AM
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Strangers, friends, family, everyone? Not like it's unexpected, but it's difficult for y'all to acknowledge and admit to your privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:43 AM
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Thanks for the history lesson, but Chivalry: courteous behaviour, especially that of a man towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:42 AM
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Embrace women being shamed for their body count?! Men are shamed for low body account, if you wanna be fair then either stop the former or embrace the latter If your feelings aren’t being taken into account, then get new friends. Because any person, no matter how they identify, deserves respect! It's not about friends, it's about strangers, relationship dynamics And “lady killer” is most definitely not a compliment! Lady killer: an attractive, charming man who habitually seduces women. 🤷🏻‍♂️ It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:41 AM
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Then why go long term? Why not exploit a loser for a few months then dip? None of this would happen if losers weren't losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 01:37 PM
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Men are easy, why would women stop exploiting them? Hell, it's not even women exploiting them, men themselves put themselves in such positions.' That being said, it's not men's fault, women are so often validated while men are not. Men have no other options that to think they're unworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 09:21 AM
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Well this throw away is gonna be entertaining for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:45 AM
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A lot of women's privilege comes from them being the weaker gender that should be protected. It's why people often side with them during conflict, people will acknowledge their opression but not privilege, they will intervene more if a woman is the victim rather than the man. It's not just about privilege, it's about the acknowledgement of said privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:47 AM
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Sounds petty and insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:38 AM
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I would love for men to collectively think this, it will be a net positive, not for society but for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:48 AM
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You're invalidating women who complain about being getting pumped and dumped and being used as sex objects
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:42 AM
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Is this my excuse to invalidate women complaining about being pumped and dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:03 PM
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Women are previliged when it comes to dating, that much is obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:02 PM
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I'm encouraging men to do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:59 PM
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Uhh it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:46 PM
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A man who talks to a woman as a friend will almost always be a friend. No? They talk as friends because they want to stay friends. The can take a different approach if their goal isn't friendship. Men (and women) still need to learn how to flirt. People do not become attracted to each other because they’re nice. Game is literally just flirting so I would not call that useless or pointless Don't know where you got it from that flirting is an absolute necessity in relationships, cause it most cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:46 PM
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Cause maintaining friends is more worthwhile than trying to appeal to the opposite (or desired) gender, the equivalent would be making effort in an already going relationship, not a potential one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:40 PM
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It is because of society judges men by how much they're getting laid (and their status)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:27 PM
8

Who....said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:25 PM
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But it won’t work unless he learns how to approach women and talk to them, and that’s part of the issue. Well clearly we have different views on relationships cause I don't you should learn how to talk to someone you'd bond well with. A man can always work on their social skills and public speaking, learning "game" seems like a childish and pointless endeavour. And this brings me back to my original point. Most men do not want to decenter relationships because most women do not approach, and mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:23 PM
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but the men who need to decenter women also tend to be the men who need the most practice when it comes to talking to women Says who? Why "practice" talking to women? The whole reason they obsess over it is because they don’t have those things. And in order to get it they need those skills. And that requires putting time and effort into developing those skills. So the idea of decentering women, but also learning how to talk to and appeal to women is inherently at odds. You really miss the point …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:10 PM
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Men can also focus on other aspects then ask our a woman they like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:02 PM
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True, and I hope people got that instead of thinking decentering women means boycotting them. That being said, women, a good portion of them, made the decision not to be in a relationship and stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:59 PM
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Saying women can afford to decenter relationships because men approach makes it look like women only pretend to decenter relationships while secretly hoping a man approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:50 PM
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It seems most men wanna date just out of FOMO
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:32 AM
4

Not sure why you're bringing race into this. Majority of trump voters are men, not to mention using that as an argument is stupid since said white(?) man is the president, not someone they wanna fuck. If you feel validated and needed by doing blue collar jobs then you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:12 PM
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To me a person who says they don't need relationships will not seek them, those women seek relationship. Indeed most women seek relationships. You can want something without needing it, much like indulgent foods. You're claiming fake news when over 60% of young men are single whilst only less than 35% of females are This is not the data I asked, I want data that shows men want relationships less than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:58 PM
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Is it not all about focusing on themselves being happy single? Those aren't necessarily related to one another, wanting a relationship is fine, needing a relationship is centering relationships The rest is just baseless claims with no data to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:07 PM
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1- Decentering relationships doesn't mean abstaining from them 2- It's not really a choice for young men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:58 PM
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Never met one, I'm guessing not but it may vary
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:52 AM
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If the goal was anything related to women, I would be preaching MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:45 AM
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Your argument is entirely based on "boycotting" women, which is not the goal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:36 AM
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You two are embarrasingly missing the point if you think decentering relationships is about pissing off a certain demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:36 AM
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Indeed, men are dependent on relationships, be it "social legitimacy" or emotional dependency. Men who fail miserably at finding wholeness elsewhere, and women who feel threatened by male bonding or emotional success for whatever reason, will defend it with their lives. Women are already decentering men and relationships, they don't need men and may or may not want them. Men need to be less one-dimensional in their masculinity and expand their values, perspectives and interests. I hate to use ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:32 AM
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The point is that men do a whole lot to attract woman, work out for women (afaik, working out is supposed to be healthy, some men take the health out of working out), dress for women, learn how to talk for women. It eats up from other aspects of life also rendering it insincere In western society, people simply aren't that close with their friends. That seems like a problem to be worked on rather than laying it out as a principle. It's not magical, but yes relationships do alleviate loneliness i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:29 AM
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Didn't say red pill is about men pleasing women but about desperately looking for a woman to please them. Wouldn't loners be on your side bc they already place little value on relationships? My bad, loners prefer to stay alone, I meant lonely people Has it occurred to you they may be lonely because a relationship is what they need? They're lonely because they either have no platonic relationships or their platonic relationships aren't fulfilling enough, they fail at drawing fulfillment from thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:02 AM
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Yes, every red piller + loners + men with low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:44 AM
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Decentering relationships is exactly what it sounds like, not revolving your entire effort, mental energy, life decisions towards pleasing a potential partner, see below reply for counter arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:38 AM
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.>-Men can and should also foster platonic relationships while in a relationship. Why? . Additionally, in most cases, the prominence & time spent with friends peaks in early adulthood and heavily wanes as you age. For some reason this basic truth is extremely controversial on this sub and people here insist that friendships are of greater import than a literal life partner. This is due to men centering relationships, you can't state the consequences of a system as a counter argument for the exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:34 AM
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None of these are arguments against decentering relationship but against being totally averse to getting a relationship. Furthermore, some of these are strawmen, nothing implies stopping working on yourself after getting into a relationship, quite the opposite, men who only worl on themselves for a relationship will stop working on themselves once they're in one. The fact that men don't derive as much fulfillment from platonic relationships and hobbies isn't a failure on their part but on men's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:23 AM
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Men are also seen negatively for not fucking enough, goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:47 AM
2

Sorry what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:42 AM
1

That not really an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:30 AM
1

??? Sigh I guess nvm that point, it either happens or it doesn't I think the men we're talking about start out trying the former and end up doing the latter. Not a destined path
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:36 AM
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Missed the part about deeper platonic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:34 AM
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The types of men that have to decenter relationships, aren't the type to have relationships. It's exactly why they should decenter it, no point in pursuing something you can't get. Although I don't believe this, almost anyone can get a relationship, it shouldn't be the focus of your life. They also have to rely on and be correct in every other, or a great number of men, doing the same thing they are, and are willing to give up women and form more feminine relate with other men. Not sure what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:08 AM
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I'm arguing in full faith and would love to counter with rational arguments (though I'll sleep in an hour), if you can articulate your arguments (not your feelings) well then I'll gladly respond
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:34 PM
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I'll address your point when a) they don't boil down to "mind your own business" and b) stop arguing that I'm cock blocking men when what I'm saying is men should revolve their life around relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:30 PM
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I reserve the right to preach whatever I like, if it makes sense to others then it is indeed part of their (non existent) free will to follow along
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:12 PM
2

Which is why they're already doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:05 PM
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Why do you think men hate loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:40 PM
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I don't see them as "reasons" more like outcomes. They're results Women can and should do the same, nobody should be defined by their relationship, or anyone else, or lack thereof. Women are already doing the same I am not so sure about "- Men can foster deeper platonic relationships", it is my own personal experience I actually meant man-to-man friendships I'd eliminate "- Women will be pursued less, as they claim they want" especially due to#2 in my list. It's about lowering harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:22 PM
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Feminists talk about men all the time, MRA are allowed to complain about women getting lighter sentences
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:20 PM
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This will never be erased. How do you know that? Having hook ups does not mean a person cannot control their sexual impulses, lol ?? Well, neither is masturbation yet it's seen that way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:19 PM
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At most, you would be kidding yourself if society still consider you a failure. Opinion of close ones > opinion of society Yes, but putting down social media would help more / would be more impactful Sure, curious why that in particular lol, never Totally possible, it just never happened before Sure thing, wait for your 40's and 50's, then most women would not turn your head that easily, so you can focus actually interesting women. This line of thinking sounds desperate I'm pretty sure they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:17 PM
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They do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:11 PM
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I'm not talking about those, I'm talking about straight men with healthy libidos actively not desperately wanting relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:10 PM
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So you want lots of sex to be the sign of a loser in a man? You want to fundamentally change the way human nature is? Never said that? But it is heavily praised and if you hung out with men as much as I do, you'd men worship sex. Getting rid of that will at least offer versatility to men's interests. That also does not mean lack of control over sexual impulse is not already encouraged. Depends on what kind of sexual impulses, flapping? Frowned upon. Hook ups? You're a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:09 PM
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Conditioning isn't just religious neutering
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:06 PM
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Porn is hated for being escapism and a sign of a loser, having lots of sex is praised.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:05 PM
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Biologist here: nah. 😂 unless you mean growing taller at the age of 70 or growing wings, I'm pretty sure conditioning plays a massive role in human behaviour most humans obey and appreciate the perks of coupling and copulation. Which doesn't exclude decentering romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:59 PM
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Tried it. Doesn't work. Plenty of men are able to do it, you failing doesn't make it impossible. Those don't make me less likely to kiss a moving train. How do you what having a deep friendship gives if you've never had one? They build their success in the back of the men that did have a relationship as a goal. No? Scientists, inventors, doctors aren't leeching off of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:56 PM
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That's because conditioning goes the exact opposite of this happening. Men are praised for controlling their impulses, if sex is on that list of impulses, adding other factors, then men will be on board
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:52 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:51 PM
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We shouldn't care when that happens, a movement that budges at the slightest bit of criticism is doomed from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:48 PM
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Bringing value to society, being a good son/brother/friend, plenty of great things a man can do to feel worthy, as a matter of fact, those make you objectively worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:47 PM
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There is no such thing as self worth. The only value is the one others give to you. Fair, I believe that too. Part of decentering romantic relationships is drawing more fulfillment from platonic ones, you can receive said self worth from friends and family. And the motivation is to do that is to get a relationship. Not necessarily, but I understand you saying that of that's what you believed your entire life. I can. Those do nothing to me. I'm not sure your relationships are deep and fulfilling …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:45 PM
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Men will never balance out the dating market based on biology alone. Some lonely -cel gets one shot (…one opportunity to seize everything he ever wanted in one moment) and he will take it. And he’ll orbit and simp for the pussy too. You're severely underestimating the deep growth people can go through, I believe every person can somewhat transcend their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:32 PM
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I hope men do this but if we did it wouldn't be for y'all, otherwise it'll just be MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:27 PM
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Depends on who you're talking to. Feminists are obsessed with asking "but who did XYZ/?" And women certainly don't take statistics against them with an open mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:13 PM
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They are happier with their......quality of their sex lives This is a big part of it, the average man has to kill their libido to be satisfied with their sex lives, women have an easier time finding sex. Men should really consider going solo more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:29 AM
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*Young men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:27 AM
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Go ahead and provide data
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:13 AM
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It's not really about what they think, it's about what's objectively correct, if a woman believes she should serve her husband she's inferior, no one commands their superiors or equals. And as I said, it's not men that believe this, saying that is just as ignorant as the statement itself, not sure why women think they can say statements about men but get offended when men do it. So really, women are exploiting men by wanting them to be dominant This is the saddest cope I've heard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:58 PM
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I'm talking about technological and medical advancement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:58 PM
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Isn't that specific to the old era rather than the type of relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:33 PM
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Right. And it’s not internalized misogyny if they think that they’re equal or superior for doing so, it’s rationalization. How delusional do you have to be to think you're equal to the one you serve, clearly the man is superior in this scenario. Thinking of oneself as a mindless fucking machine is certainly not a good self image and is pushed down their throats by society. I'll give you credit, you managed to swerve the conversation swiftly. No, in fact, more women think of men as sex wanting be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:30 PM
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Some women think they're being good wives by being their husband's servant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:02 PM
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Men say and believe that Isn't it then internalised misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:58 PM
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Actually just edited it in honour of this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:24 PM
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Saying men will fuck anything is just a prejudiced, sexist and idiotic as saying women don't enjoy sex yet doesn't get nearly the same push back.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:17 AM
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5'6, balding, perhaps not White, below average wage/profession You certainly didn't hold back on shaming men, did you? I hope (and I know I'll be disappointed) that you keep the same energy for unattractive women that want top percent guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:07 PM
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Did Jordan Peterson ever say he's an alpha male?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:31 AM
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Both aren't wrong, but women *really* make a fuss about the former
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:34 PM
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Nice whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:20 PM
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As wrong as not dating a man for being bi
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:19 PM
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Women hiding behind "conditioning" for their wrongdoings is a classic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:12 PM
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Right, I guess we should close the sub since we can just "work" on problems, even if they're societal. There's nothing to be done about "women having it easy", what can you do? Ruin their lives? And no, working on yourself doesn't tackle the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:10 PM
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If it's really a debate forum then maybe the conversation shouldn't boil down to "deal with it", what point did Original commenter even try to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:23 PM
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May not have been your intention, but you've definitely ruffled a few feathers, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:43 AM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:29 AM
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I'm curious what would happen if it does alleviate loneliness and men don't pursue women nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:10 AM
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Men have nearly as much negotiating power in dating as in applying for a job
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:30 AM
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Just so I'm getting it clear, no mentally healthy woman marries a poor man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:45 PM
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As you said, you experience it more intensely than other women. You seem androphobic, perhaps seek therapy? Men have to ask women out for society to keep going, it's counterproductive to demonize approaching. You're projecting quite a lot, cautiousness is valid but you're blowing it out of proportion, but hey, you're not harming anyone so you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:57 PM
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There's no chance in hell women admit to having an advantage over men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:45 PM
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For the last time I don't give a fuck about my fuckability, it's the stupid "women have periods" retort is idiotic and is just a one up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 11:16 AM
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1- yes 2- you don't have to be affected by an issue to be against it 4- typo 5- no they fucking don't, it's cause men fuck anything and everything. Objectively, the average woman isn't more attractive than the average man. Who said anything about being handed a wife? You do realise nothing stops you from having your period so why bring up? You women say women lose value as they age and have the audacity to blame men for it. Idgaf what makes me fuckable or not when expressing my points, only a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 11:04 AM
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Not sure what this unsympathetic answer is supposed to prove
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:50 AM
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As I said, it's not really suicide attempts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:38 AM
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1- Why even bring up advantages that we can't do anything about? isn't the point of bringing up unfairness to change society in a way that's more fair? 2- Gonna have to check some stats on the disparity between war deaths and crime deaths 4- Typ, replace man with creep 5- Means the average man isn't considered as attractive as the average woman, why say 'women lose value as they age' when don't even possess that value unless they work their asses off
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:36 AM
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Definitely way more than men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:08 AM
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1- not a society issue. 2- fair enough I guess 3- and you're more like to be killed if you're a man 4- and you have to be treated as a man 5- men don't have intrinsic value 6- same as 1 7- considering men have a harder time getting sex than women, their orgasm is more deserved
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:03 AM
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Women attempt suicide more as a cry for help and to gain sympathy, not a true attempt to end their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:59 AM
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Sooo how much of this was pure delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:54 PM
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And how rare are these types of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:55 PM
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What else could be the reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:22 AM
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I'm pretty neither care what the other thinks but just want the money/sex. The only reason they care is because they fear they might lose the money/sex, not because of emotional attachment or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:41 AM
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I don't think said girls care what these men think, they just want the good treatment, why would any of them want to be someone's dream girl if they get treated well? Just exploit the provider role and you're good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:33 AM
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I'm pretty sure entitled women are entitled because they want free good treatment, not because men said so and so, but hey, anything to put the blame on men 💁🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:25 AM
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This lacks self awareness so much it's concerning and hilarious Men's expectations: be a virgin Women's expectations: worship me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:22 AM
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There are so many factors playing into men chasing women, testosterone, social conditioning, deeply engrained traditional gender roles, that's not happening any time soon. Although I'd love for it to happen one day, if not for personal interest, just out of pure curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:17 AM
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Why would you assume the gender ratio here necessarily plays a role in the type of content posted, how about we talk about the ratio of men siding with women vs women siding with men. Are said comments common and upvoted enough to not be shrugged off as a few deviant aggressive men? Considering the nonsense sliding with women that gets upvoted here, it's safe to say women (and men siding with them) upvote way more or are way more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure the average sane women would appreciate all of these (bar the sidewalk rule), the two extremes on the other hand: an entitled woman would think you treating her like a child is the bare minimum, a woman insecure about her gender would hate these and think you're enforcing traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:04 AM
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Men definitely don't think highly of other men, I've seen men say they didn't care for compliments from other men, just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:58 AM
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I definitely agree, no one is absolved from cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:45 AM
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You're quite insensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:37 PM
0

It's still a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:35 PM
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boo hoo Am I allowed to say that the next time a woman complains about societal pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:34 PM
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Cause in this hypothetical scenario they'd be the random women. Let's not act like women aren't above benign manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:04 PM
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Are women in thread saying they'd be proud just to encourage men to protect them? Seems like it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:56 AM
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Not only are you looked down upon by most people, men and women alike, being labelled insecure and having trust issues. Also you're dating pool gets way way tighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:52 AM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:58 AM
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What ultimatums? Trust??? "Have full blind faith in me or we're done" I'm not even going to explain how this comes off as gaslighting causes explaining that cheaters and non cheaters act the same is beating a dead horse. If a man thinks anything like you or OP, I pray that he will reject me. Lucky for me, not all men or even majority of men, think like you. Sigh you think this matters to me in anyway? Try to separate facts from your feelings when debating
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:45 AM
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Yeah, it's better to be abused
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:38 AM
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You're quite naive, no one "acts untrustworthy" before cheating, and you can relax my point is not to force you to stay or smth, you can do whatever you want. My point is to show that the exact things you're saying "if you don't blindly trust me then I will not be with you" no matter how pure you think you are, is the same thing said by gaslighting (yes, perfect usage of this word) cheaters. Don't expect men or anyone to commit if you're posing these ultimatums.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:28 AM
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Is it limited to that area? Are men 'ot labelled as insecure for wanting a virgin wife? I mean, men are labelled insecure for anything so 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:40 AM
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Must be nice to live unapologetically, if only men didn't get actual objective consequences for their standards, not just internet strangers being mad at them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:34 AM
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That's not the point 🤦🏻‍♂️ the point is some of them go for above average + doesn't treat them well over average + treats them well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:33 AM
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True but it's also stupid that some prefer the entertainment part over being a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:30 AM
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You did see it as problematic although it isn't, funnily enough you weren't capable of understanding the first part of my comment, cheaters don't look like cheaters and you're not exempt from it, other than "feeling untrusted" what objective problem comes out it? Are men (and women) supposed to act naive about the potential of their partners cheating just so they don't hurt their feelings? Seems like classic gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:28 AM
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You woulda probably been called a red flag if you were a man saying this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:25 AM
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The fact is some women cheat, those women also look faithful enough and also exhibit frustration at their husband's distrust. You shouldn't feel entitled to being seen as one of the pure ones, you just like everyone else are prone to cheating. It doesn't matter if your feelings are hurt, he's entitled to a test.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:19 AM
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This sounds like it would make a soulless relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:10 PM
1

Should men be paid higher if they should provide. Although I agree that men should do more for kids and pregnancy, you coming from this odd angle of of petty accountability and revenge instead of what's good for kids makes you look horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:14 PM
2

This is BS, no one is stupid enough to make such a huge decision out of pettiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:11 PM
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Not really, other people in the comments argued OP's points and didn't feel the need to distract from it by one upping
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:45 AM
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I can observe, you didn't Makeba single point related to OP's post and just one upped them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:29 AM
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I'm not OP, your loaded question implies men are the only ones pulling the string, do you genuinely think women don't condition others?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:28 AM
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You didn't provide anything significant to the conversation, what does your comment have to do with OP's post other than "men too"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:21 AM
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People like you act like women can't possibly condition others negatively and it's just men pulling the strings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:35 AM
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Is this supposed to be one upping OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:31 AM
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Makes OP more of a feminist than the average feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:19 AM
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My problem is how it's used to shift the blame, when a man does a negative traditional thing he has toxic masculinity, if a woman does it she's a poor victim of the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:42 PM
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You didn't answer my question, why do they blame the man for it, I thought people can't control what they're attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:28 PM
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Meant the husbands don't find the women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:38 PM
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How come some women straight up blame their husbands because they don't find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:15 PM
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I asked for the why
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:44 PM
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Why do people want to have ONSs with good looking people? If sex is what you're after, shouldn't you just be looking for someone who's good at sex so long as they're safe people. It's not like you're going to spend a long time with them so why do looks matter? I understand a hot body but the face too? And no this isn't a rant lol, sex culture isn't even a thing where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:13 AM
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Biology fanatics can't possibly fathom what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:08 PM
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Why would you assume introverts necessarily want to be with introverts? Why would you assume neurodivergent people want to be with fellow neurodivergent people instead of neurotypicals who will "fix them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:42 AM
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Pretty sure toxic femininity is using your society-given victim position to manipulate others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:16 PM
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It absolutely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:57 PM
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It is objectifying if you think women are exclusively for fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:54 PM
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Sexualising is a subset of objectifying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:54 AM
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There's a difference between finding someone sexy and sexualising them, sexualising means strictly viewing women as sex dolls
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:19 AM
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Bonus points if you're a vampire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:17 AM
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No, it's because women are deemed more important, on a scenario where either a man or a woman should sacrifice their life for the other, many people will choose the man, but why? Does that have to do with fighting? I don't think so since death is certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:29 AM
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Fixed it, you asked for female privilege and I provided
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:30 PM
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Great, at least got you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:27 PM
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It's not some talk, It IS proven. Here and here and here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure the cultural perception is that women are more important than men, not weaker or dumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:07 PM
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Are you ready to give your female privilege or are you blindly in love with the idea of equality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:32 PM
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Some country force military service on men. If I were a woman, I would not want my personal merit to be so easily written off. What? You think this proves something? No one would to give up their privilege, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:30 PM
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Some countries, like men, forces men and only men to serve in the military. We're all aware both gender benefit in different ways, the problem is in the huge disparity in which one is called out and demonised while the other is still celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:27 PM
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Isn't dominance a traditional gender roles associated with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:16 PM
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They have?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:12 PM
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So you want to disassociate a man's value from his ability to find mates?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:10 PM
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I honestly have no idea what you're on about. Mainstream tried to stomp out the media? What social framework?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:06 PM
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Perhaps discard the value associated with finding a mate instead of using girlfriends as a temporary bandaid?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:55 AM
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"social legitimacy" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:34 AM
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The women are delusional lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:34 AM
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Why? Why isn't that just called delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:18 AM
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The responses on the first thread were disgusting and manipulative, and that's how it goes from men usually "you don't have to do X, but it tells a lot about you that you don't want to do it"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:17 AM
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