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But even if it were true, why should what is natural be considered "right?" This is an is-ought fallacy. Pointing something out doesn't mean you believe it's "right" in a moral sense. Morality and veracity are two different things, and need to be treated as such in a debate. When TRP looks to evolutionary psych, it's usually as a justification for their own observations; e.g. women tend to go for guys that are wealthy, good looking, muscular, have status, etc. whereas men don't display the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 04:02 AM
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Not at all, I was just postulating what could drive a man to run away after a night with the OP ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 03:25 PM
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Her blowjobs felt like an actual wolf was going to town on their junk, all teeth and tongue. One night with chompy was probably enough unless you're really into that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 02:09 AM
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The elephant man gets ridden harder than Rosie O'Donnell's pony.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 11:42 PM
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Law tends to lag behind social moral norms. Why would you think the law is a good moral arbiter? Especially from a progressive view, considering that homosexuals still aren't allowed to marry in most western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 01:57 AM
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Fair enough, to each their own. Her proportions look a bit off to me, but then I've always been after petite girls anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:35 PM
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This is true. it's like kinematics; the rate of change of dicks is important as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:51 PM
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That's not a thigh gap, that's a camel toe. And I will never understand guys who want a chick with an ass that you could physically rest a beer on. My girl's certainly got back, but there are limits -- I prefer quality to quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:15 AM
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Most responses in here are acknowledging that 2 is the hottest, and 3 is a contender. I mean, for me personally, 3 looks like a man, but she's still hotter than 1, who looks like a bar fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:58 AM
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And yet multiple guys are here telling you that they've known Chads, so he's definitely real. And I never accused you of saying that, only that your underlying argument is the same -- you attacked the woman in the anecdote as if that somehow changes the reality, when it very clearly doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 01:56 PM
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This isn't an argument, it's just you making a moral judgement on other people because their behavior doesn't fit your world view. Some guys are attractive to many women, and they have sex with many women. Whether or not you think those women are creepy, damaged, or sad is irrelevant. It's just another form of the "only damaged girls fall for Chad" argument, which is to say, it's not an argument at all, merely an attempt at deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:44 AM
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This just isn't true. I have two cousins who, at the age of 15, were regularly being approached by women in their early 20s. One of them lost his virginity at the age of 12 to a girl 3 years older than him. Some guys are strong, some are fast, some can recite pi to the thousandth decimal place, and some have an innate ability to get pussy that is probably the result of a combination of genetic and learned factors. You can believe what you like, but I've seen it with my own eyes. Can they get any…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:16 AM
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It's not the fact that women have standards, it's the fact that men are often lied to about what those standards are. You can't play the game if you don't know the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:43 PM
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TRP doesn't advocate lying to get laid. In fact, they're fairly explicit in advocating for the opposite, so I don't know where you're getting this from. The whole concept of spinning plates and dread game requires that you be honest, so that the girl/s know that you have other options available to you. Don't project your own bad experiences onto TRP. The Red Pill certainly has many sins, but advocating for lying isn't one of them. Blatantly making shit up won't present your own cause in a favora…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:46 AM
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Say you can only have a few kids in your lifetime, and you want them to have the best possible chance of surviving to procreate -- the biggest threats to their survival are likely to be things like diseases, other people, and famine. You have a few very obvious solutions to this: Have kids with the local wunderkind. This is the guy who had a sixpack at age 3, and was grooming his facial hair by the age of 8. He killed his first lion at the age of 10, and has never been sick a day in his life. Gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 02:53 AM
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The left has historically aligned itself with the working class, but nowadays it's more associated with the elite. Kids coming out of Stanford talking about racism don't really have any experience actually dealing with racism and oppression, but they've been brainwashed their whole lives by a largely left-wing education system, and media that presents left-wing ideals as the correct moral position. It's a smart move, because the establishment can now take the moral high ground as it fucks you. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 09:33 AM
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I think we're in violent agreement here. When Luke Hugedick tells her he's gonna stuff his rod down her potato masher, he's hilarious, but when John the tech guy asks her out on a date, he should know that there are boundaries, and that she just doesn't see him that way. It was disrespectful because it put her in an uncomfortable position. She's a person, not an object. In fact, if John wasn't a misogynist who objectified women, maybe he would actually get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 07:00 AM
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The backlash against feminism is conflated with a culture of misogyny. I think assuming that nerds hate women once they become disillusioned is simplistic, lazy thinking. You can recognize that problems exist without hating a group. The issue is that pointing out issues in gender dynamics (and particularly against women) is often conflated with hating women. They aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 04:08 AM
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What are your reasons for believing that nerds as a subgroup of the male population are somehow more misogynistic than the male population as a whole? If anything, my experience suggests the opposite -- nerds and geeks are often inexperienced and naive, so they buy into the whole women are wonderful crap. I think the big backlash against feminism online is largely due to the fact that nerds and nerd culture have been unfairly targeted by the left establishment, when historically nerds have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:40 AM
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My condolences for your family's loss. I had a read through your brother's post history, and it's obvious that he was a bright spark who lived his life the way that he wanted. I hope that -- as well as mourning for your loss -- your family can celebrate a life that was well lived.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 12:08 AM
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So it turns out she had a dating profile on OKCupid. I feel bad for the poor girl. She was failed by those who were meant to guide her, and activism has become her coping mechanism (i.e. it's a way for her to belong to something). Even so, there's no excuse for an adult to act like a child. If a point can't be made without resorting to screaming and shouting, it probably isn't that good to begin with.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/16 12:32 PM
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Sure, there are jobs like that, but for the most part programmers are expected to know how to implement basic logic and data structures, and that's what they're hired on. It's a professional industry, and most people who go to uni and learn programming come out with those skills. The women you're referring to did not have those skills. They might have picked them up over time, but that's not what they were hired for. Can you see the difference? As for tech being a sausage fest because of social …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 01:59 PM
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To be fair, back then it was glorified secretary work. Those women were doing data entry, whereas the actual logic and data structures were designed by scientists and engineers (primarily men). Typing someone else's logic doesn't make one a programmer any more than assembling a piece of Ikea furniture makes them an engineer. Women disappeared from the industry once programmers became more specialized, and began designing logic, data structures and algorithms themselves. But hey, let's shift the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:51 AM
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Here's a question for him: Why are there no male groupies? Male musicians are infamous for their sexual appetites, and yet female musicians rarely -- if ever -- sleep with male fans (they tend to have sex with the band members instead). What is the cause of this? My own theory is that men are driven to compete because the rewards for them are much greater, as evidenced by how they tend to behave once they achieve success. Rock stars, actors, presidents, sports stars, and even CEOs are notorious …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:02 PM
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If you're married, or have ever had a boyfriend, it's clearly not a useless skill. Their desire to fuck you is probably what got you together in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:34 AM
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Ever heard the expression "gay for pay"? Some guys do do this. Again, just because something is not immediately useful to you, doesn't mean it has no value. If you earn more than your living costs every month, do you throw the rest away? I also think it's disingenuous conflate heterosexual women not wanting to have sex with a guy to heterosexual men not wanting to have sex with a guy. Heterosexual women are attracted to men and receive direct benefit from having those options available. Heterose…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:14 AM
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An option that doesn't benefit you in any way, or that would definitely negatively affect you if you took it, isn't worth counting. If there are two identical paths to the same destination, or I find one that's harder to traverse than the first, it doesn't benefit me in the slightest to have that extra option. Of course it does. If you travel the easier road every day, and one day it's blocked, you can use your second option. An option doesn't need to have immediate value in order for it to be w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:03 AM
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Of course it's a material gain. By definition it's an option, which -- versus the alternative of no options (which a lot of equivalent guys have) -- is something rather than nothing. Whether or not someone chooses to capitalize on a gain doesn't make it any less of a gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 03:14 AM
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No doubt being a fat rich guy is better than being a fat woman. But I tend to think that for an average fat guy, the average fat girl still has an easier time getting sex (or rather, she will get more opportunities for sex even if she doesn't necessarily act on those opportunities). Fat guys might get less opportunities, but they may take every one that they get. My 2c on the matter. It's not surprising to me that some overweight guys would do well with women since the ugly rich guy with the tro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 02:34 AM
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It's definitely not just bodybuilders -- George W. Bush's BMI would have put him into the overweight category when he was in office, but I doubt anyone here would seriously consider him to be fat or unhealthy. It's quite common for men who play sports and go to the gym to have BMIs in the overweight categority, which is why other methods of measuring healthy weight were devised (pinch tests etc.). Hell, if you take BMI seriously, I was overweight when I was boxing and going to the gym twice a we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 12:39 AM
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It's not relevant to the point that is being made. The points being argued are: male sexual preferences are culturally determined men exercise these preferences through the cultural objectification of women The OP has argued that: Gay culture was largely invisible to mainstream society until fairly recently; Because gay culture was invisible, young gay men wouldn't have been openly exposed to it (certainly not easily -- it was probably something you needed to look for in order to find); The sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 01:33 AM
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A. Pansexuality is real. So is demisexuality - it shouldn't be controversial at this point that some people are only sexually attracted if there's an emotional connection, we have several participating here. Sexual novelty also attracts some people. Femdom will continue to exist regardless of whether or not you approve. AWALT isn't taken seriously, outside of the manosphere. This is an emotional rant, and an irrelevant one at that. TRP primarily caters to heterosexual men pursuing heterosexual w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:15 PM
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I'm a realist. Even assuming you're correct (and I would still say that those girls are sexually attracted by the guy's other traits, they're just unwilling to act on that sexual attraction without some kind of display of vulnerability or consistency -- the maxim that true strength is somehow the ability to be vulnerable without fear) I've met more women who aren't like that than women who are. Why pursue a strategy that is likely to be detrimental in getting the majority of women purely to focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 02:23 AM
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Meanwhile, Chyna and Sable were some of Playboy's best selling issues. And Ronda Rousey's fanbase skews male. This is probably the same effect bodybuilders experience; the number of men attracted to masculine women is a minority of the total male population, but it's still larger than the population of truly masculine women. Given that these men have few outlets for their preferences, they probably get focused on the few avenues available. Face it, some men, more confident than others, simply li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 01:42 AM
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Okay, so now you need to explain the popularity of women who can kick ass and men who employ the more subtle feminine strengths. These are tropes designed to appeal to a female audience. The female kick ass character is a power fantasy that has been pushed by a feminist agenda in media (i.e. every film and TV show nowadays has to have a strong female character, to show that women can be strong too). Most guys find it laughable that someone like Scarlet Johanssen can take out 5 Russian hitmen, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:57 AM
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Pussy and kids. In a world with no social safety net, you need to have kids who will look after you in your old age. They're your pension, so-to-speak. Without kids, if you work in a physically demanding job, you're effectively dead once you're too old to keep working (or your body breaks down from labor). Edit: importantly, you probably needed sons, as they would carry on the family business. Daughters may look after you, but they may not have been able to perpetuate the family income stream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:52 AM
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I assume that culture is driven by biology, not the other way around. Masculine men are given the good lines and roles because they're more popular with both women and men, and their movies sell better accordingly. Same reason why girl groups are almost always hot young things who shake their tits and ass whilst being "artists". A few minutes of that, and they could sell me sand in a desert. It doesn't surprise me that masculinity is perceived as nasty by a statistically significant portion of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:44 AM
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My ass-pull hypothesis would be that it's for the same reason that there's an inverse correlation between measures of gender equality, and the number of female scientists/mathematicians/engineers that are produced by a society. In western countries women are more liberated, and so: Don't suffer from as much social and/or religious pressure to be with a certain type of guy (i.e. more traditional societies may place more emphasis on cultivating and rewarding 'nice' guys, or avoiding 'bad' guys); D…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:50 PM
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What are you even going on about here? Some of the specifics I am talking about: the view that women are biologically "less", the view that women are only good for sex, I've never seen anyone on TRP openly believe that women are biologically "less". I mean, in what context are you talking about? Again, be specific. As for women only being good for sex, I can't blame men for wanting to avoid serious relationships. I think it's a rational response when a serious relationship could see you lose hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:32 PM
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Something being offensive to you or other people is not an argument against it. Neither is morality for that matter; something being immoral has no bearing on its truth. The truth is still the truth, no matter how it's delivered, who supplies it, or how it makes us feel. The word toxic as it pertains to this discussion is rarely used in any context other than masculinity. Toxic femininity, for example, is only a relatively recent concept that has come out of the push-back against third wave femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 03:32 PM
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Casual conversation among guys is often highly offensive to women. Furthermore, what does toxic even mean in this context? It's a weasel word that has no specific meaning here, other than to shame masculine discourse. And who made you the moral police? Why do you care so much what a few guys on the internet say to one another, and who are you to judge if what they say is "toxic" or not? There are far worse places online than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:52 AM
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my response to the OP: I think the fact that most people read your points and then go "...yes but women..." is probably some of the best evidence for your post that you could possibly ask for. Most people here have a pretty simplistic view of TRP, and take it as antagonistic woman-hating, or a judgement of women in general, when really it's just a bunch of guys pointing out behaviors that they observe, and comparing notes with other guys. Sometimes science gets brought up, and sometimes it's eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 02:29 AM
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Those jobs aren't welcoming to anybody. When you work in predominantly male groups like that, you're expected to pull your weight; the group will assume you're incompetent from the outset, and it's up to you to prove to them that you're not. Affirmative action actually works against women in this regard, because the men will assume that she got the job because she's a woman, and so is even more incompetent than the average new hire. I've worked with ex-military guys who would barely acknowledge …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 08:31 AM
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Yeah this is pretty much it. Women are out for security primarily, which is why you get the alpha fucks beta bucks split. The alpha guy can win a fight and protect you and your offspring, whereas the beta bucks guy has enough resources to help ensure survival. Regarding physically attractive individuals, it's generally an indication that they have good immune systems, so again, security.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 11:22 AM
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Stating the averages of large groups is incredibly useful. It's the single most useful means of categorizing large populations, and is a foundation of modern medicine, banking, insurance, engineering etc. etc. etc. How do you think insurance companies even turn a profit? They operate almost purely on statistical models of risk that happen to earn them a tonne of money. Regarding average height distribution of males and females, you can infer that men are likely to be heavier, probably stronger. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 08:30 PM
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I don't recall the name of the charity; I remember her showing it to me and thinking it was a good cause, so I helped by donating and spreading word to friends. It was dedicated towards educating young women on sexual health, and providing sanitation in 3rd world countries (no access to tampons and other amenities). She was a lot more involved than I was, but I was happy to support. Profession-wise, I'm an aerospace engineer. Most of what I know about nuclear power has been through my own resear…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 08:46 PM
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Or you infer the absolute position when it's not necessarily implied in the text, which is a mistake you've made several times now. In any case, I'm off to bed, have a good evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:41 PM
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You need to read more carefully: If they turn down genuinely decent guys and sleep with fucksticks, they obviously care about sex over being respected. I never implied that all FWBs are fucksticks. Some are, some aren't. Same way that some sex is degrading and some isn't. Why do you constantly default to the absolute position?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 08:30 PM
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You missed my point: If a woman sleeps with a guy who plainly doesn't respect her (or women in general), she is demonstrating that she cares more for sex than respect; this is especially the case since most women likely turn down several men for each one they sleep with. If they turn down genuinely decent guys and sleep with fucksticks, they obviously care about sex over being respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 08:13 PM
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And if getting bent over and fucked is the only way she knows of "enjoying being single", she's probably not someone I'd want to have a relationship with anyway. If the only way she knows how to experience being single is on her back with a series of strangers, that seems pretty one-dimensional and shallow does it not? This also holds true for guys as well; men who define their single life by fucking an endless string of women have a few issues of their own. The difference is that to get women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 07:41 PM
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My most recent ex-girlfriend was a pretty staunch feminist. I donated money and helped her fundraise for a charity helping young women in 3rd world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:46 PM
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Some sex is degrading, some isn't. From what I've observed, casual hookups by their nature often lend themselves to degrading sex. What part of that are you struggling with? The instance I described was an instance of degrading casual sex. This doesn't mean all casual sexual encounters are degrading, but it does mean some are. The more partners a woman has, the more likely she is to have made those poor choices, or let herself be degraded. That's her choice. She might be a wonderful person, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:42 PM
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You're being obtuse if you think sex can't be degrading. I once knew a guy who fucked a girl for a bet; she wasn't that attractive and had a lazy eye, and he intentionally positioned her so that her head bounced off the wall while he fucked her. His mates all laughed about it afterwards and bought him a carton of beer for winning the bet. Was this guy a piece of shit? Sure. But she's equally culpable, because she knew what he was like and still decided to sleep with him. More so, both parties re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:51 PM
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Some sex is degrading, some isn't. From what I've observed, casual hookups by their nature often lend themselves to degrading sex. And how is this even relevant to the topic at hand? The points I made aren't contingent on how graphic my language was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 10:48 PM
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I was responding to this part: Besides, anybody who actually thinks promiscuity affects her likelihood of cheating needs to read up on the correlation-causation fallacy. There are much more proximate causes of infidelity. I.e. one factor doesn't need to be causative of the other in order to make avoiding it useful. Furthermore, I didn't even state that it was what I believed, only why the logic is still useful. Just realize that the more absurd the standards you hold people to, the more incentiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 04:29 PM
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This is one of those myths that I see a lot. A lot of people have the idea that because a statistic doesn't necessarily imply cause -- or can't be shown to be causative in itself -- means that it has no value or impact on the outcome. If women who cheat generally have a higher partner count, but not all women with high partner counts cheat, you can still avoid most women who cheat by avoiding women with high partner counts. It's still useful. Maybe there are plenty of wonderful women with high p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 12:23 PM
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The truth is the truth, no matter who provides it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:47 PM
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First for them any girl with a high n-count is a slut. I think her personal history and stance on (casual) sex matters more than just the number. Well... that is the definition of the word slut. Maybe she had some shitty LTRs with guys that pretented to be nice, but turned out to be assholes 2 months into the relationship. All the sex she had was in relationships and she never cheated, but she is still thrown together with girls that have a much more liberal attitude towards casual sex, sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:16 PM
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Male, INTP, moderate Red
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 09:29 PM
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Sometimes, depends on the person. But that doesn't preclude someone from also drawing confidence from the things they've already achieved, because no-one can take those achievements away from them. It's entirely possible to do both at the same time. A guy in his mid-thirties has probably hit his stride in his career and is comfortable with his job. He probably has enough experience and network that if he were made redundant, he could find another position fairly quickly. If he's single, he's pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:17 PM
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They probably start playing chess at a later age than the typical professional athlete starts playing sport. Even then, it may take longer for them to gain confidence in their abilities due to the nature of the game. Either way, the answer is irrelevant, because 31 is well after most geniuses have produced their most prodigious work. John Nash invented Game Theory at the age of 22, and Einstein was also in his 20s when he invented special relativity. However, as scientists and individuals, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:24 PM
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Confidence is built on achievement. The 25 year old guy doesn't know what he's really capable of, because he's never truly been tested. The 35 year old guy has likely been pushed to his limits, and so knows what he's capable of. And your examples bear out what I'm saying. Anyone who plays sports at a high level has probably been practicing for more than a decade (maybe up to two in some cases); for all intents and purposes, if you start athletics at six, peak at 24-25, and retire around 30, your…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:17 PM
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Like velocity and time, small is a relative concept. I just need to find a girl with baby hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:17 PM
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I'm gonna go buy some stocks in Trojan. Thanks for the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:06 PM
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Okay. But that still doesn't change the point. Hopefully there are a few Churches out there that can spare a prayer or two for our short-dicked brethren. On the plus side, if men with small cocks don't breed any more due to the feminine conspiracy, it means that our sons will all be tripods. The three-legged future of mankind is looking bright indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:48 PM
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My my, this hypothetical chat turned personal pretty quick, didn't it? You just went so far down the rabbit hole that you sounded like you were straight out of TRP. Yes indeed, the feminine conspiracy will prevent me from getting laid, and bitches will straight up dump me for Chad. All because I have an average cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:36 PM
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Oooor... he could bang slags for practice and fun because they're easy, find a nice girl that isn't drawn to Rick the Schlong like a moth to a flame, and live a good life? Yeah, I think that sounds a lot more rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:25 PM
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It might be an honest assessment of his own abilities. Some women are size queens, and sluts love variety (otherwise they could just have lots of sex with the same guy). Why waste your efforts when there are plenty of non-sluts out there? And if a toilet needs to think of itself as the user in order to cope, then maybe that's just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:14 PM
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Thanks mum. I think I'll stick to maintaining my own standards and looking out for myself, and I'd expect others to do the same. If a woman feels insecure because she got passed around like a dog toy and now some bloke doesn't want her, maybe she makes objectively poor decisions and should be bothered by her own poor judgement? Just a thought. I mean, how do you evolve as a human being without some kind of introspection? News flash, a lot of self-reflection isn't pretty, because by its very natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:45 PM
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But then isn't that just shifting insecurity around? Why do women need to be protected from feeling insecure about their poor choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:05 PM
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And what will that achieve, exactly? To what end are you working towards? I mean fuck it, let's test this out: I'm insecure that if I date a girl who's been with an arbitrarily large number of guys before me, I won't be special to her. I'm an average guy with an average cock, and it would bother me if she'd been fucked by college athletes, tag teamed (or any group sex, really), or had wild monkey pornstar sex with alpha males whose balls dropped when they were eight. It would bother me because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:39 PM
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You wrote: They sugar coat it in AFBB or alpha widows or whatever crap they spew just to keep from admitting they're insecure and don't want to be seen as crap in bed and a girl would only know if they're crap if she's had other partners. How is that not an attempt at shaming? I merely pointed out that the guy's desire to be a hero in bed is equally valid as a girl's desire to be with a guy who genuinely wants her. I mean, how would you feel if your guy was secretly a red piller? Now, if -- as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:14 PM
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The implication is generally one of shaming though, otherwise why bring it up? You were attempting to frame the issue of guys not liking high partner count women as them being insecure, but if it's a neutral point (i.e. who cares if they're insecure or not?) then it's irrelevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:59 PM
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Is it insecurity to want to feel attractive to your partner? I mean, how would you feel if your husband or boyfriend secretly thought you were a bit dumpy and had a fat ass, but you have a nice personality (or worse, he couldn't do any better)? Guys feel attached to our sexual performance; it makes us feel attractive to a woman in the same way that women feel attractive when their boyfriend gets tongue-tied after seeing them in a nice dress. Chances are, if your girl got around, she probably doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:17 PM
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Women. Guys and gals don't always respond to the same things. Most guys want their girl to find them masculine, hot, dominant etc., but women often select partners based on nurturing characteristics. Honestly, marrying a woman isn't exactly a prize for a man, and it's something we tend to do for women, not ourselves. The idea of "but I chose to marry you!" makes me feel like I had no say in the matter, like I'm some kind of beggar. To a woman that's a genuine compliment, but to a man it leaves y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:06 PM
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Most guys that I've spoken to don't want to end up with someone like that. Easy girls are good for having fun and getting some practice in, but they're not the ones most men want to keep. Sure, there are guys out there who find it hot, and guys with higher counts who might not be fussed, but I wouldn't say it's common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:50 PM
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The effectiveness of therapy seems dubious at best (and I say that as someone whose father was a counsellor, and who has been to counselling himself). A regular exercise regimen is probably better for most people with mild to moderate depression. Any depressed guy going to TRP can do a hell of a lot worse than going to the gym and getting fit, even if it's just for the purposes of getting laid. I also agree with /u/squidracer. Maybe a depressed guy needs to get therapy, but maybe he just needs s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:36 PM
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You're looking for excuses. If you get divorced, you still won't be happy, because the problem isn't the marriage, it's you. The marriage is just a convenient scapegoat for you to rationalize why you're unhappy. Actually, I take that back: you might be happy for a little while and feel like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders, but sooner or later, that feeling of anxiety and self-doubt will creep back into your heart, and you'll find yourself depressed again. I think you already know thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:17 PM
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Used to be very left, now more centrist, if not slightly right. Honestly, I don't recognize the left any more. They have the smug moral certainty that I used to associate with the right; they've moved towards shutting down open discussion, shaming tactics, and propaganda. Feminism is their religion, and if you don't like its new face, they'll dox you, call your employer and try to get you fired for having the temerity to stand up for your beliefs. They don't seem to realize that destroying someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 06:01 PM
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I can't answer for the other guy, but I definitely prefer working with men. Why do you assume that a "gender diverse environment" functions better than a mostly single-sex one, or that it's even something desirable to a lot of people? Shit, I know plenty of women who don't want to work with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 12:11 AM
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My history is fine, and I'm happy to let my comments speak to that. I'd also like to point out that I've not once attacked your own educational grounding in this whole debate, when it's rather clear to me that you're only capable of seeing things through one lens. You're focusing on the Victorian era -- a period of some 150 years in the grand scheme of things -- because it supports your narrative of the oppressed woman, when I've pointed out that 1) most people were uneducated during this time p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:49 PM
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1) Women weren't allowed to fight because of basic biology. They didn't get the privileges that came with it, but they weren't expected to risk death or disability in the name of politics. Seems fair to me. 2) Women could get a loan, but they needed a husband's signature to ratify the agreement. That's not the same as being barred outright from starting your own business, and it makes sense in a time where houses generally only had a single source of income (the man). There was also nothing stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 10:24 PM
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This doesn't really explain it either, since many of the men who left a mark on society in the ways we're talking about were autodidacts. You don't need equality to be an innovator, which is why there are notable examples of women making great contributions to science and mathematics even before female suffrage. In fact, evidence suggests that the number of women going into STEM fields decreases with measures of equality, which is why you have more female mathematicians coming out of China and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:52 PM
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Those differences definitely matter. If men are more cooperative in situations that are conducive to, say, invention of new technology, then you'll see more men inventing new technologies. The same is true for statecraft; men tend to cooperate in the formation and organization of armies and states, and exercise power accordingly. Women have historically become leaders, but how many of them did so through parties or at the head of an army? Vanishingly few. Most became leaders through inheritance …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:41 PM
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Seriously? The answers in this thread are a joke. A person can have the same amount of sex with a single person as with multiple partners, so at the very least, the number of new partners they sleep with can tell you the extent to which they enjoy having sex with new people (this is more true for girls than guys, as guys need to invest more in actually finding a partner). If men are driven enough to get it, they'll rack up a high count (assuming they're successful, either through high enough sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:33 PM
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Men are more violent than women, just pull up the incarceration stats. Your problem lies in your narrow definition of masculinity. Yes, men are more violent than women, but that's not the only form of masculinity. Power and dominance are typically considered masculine traits, and a hallmark of the truly powerful is that they don't have to use violence to get what they desire; rather, they command it. Use of violence is typically associated with a lack of power, whereas powerful central governanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:34 PM
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Lower testosterone levels among more civilized societies could also be an economic effect, as civilization requires the ruling party monopolizes the use of violence. Anti-social men that are unable to control their aggression or use of violence get executed by the state. Over time, less aggressive men have more reproductive success, because the most aggressive individuals are removed from the gene pool. Given the link between testosterone and aggression, this would suggest that long periods of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:18 PM
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If anything, it's the opposite. Barring the redneck Christian right within TRP, a lot of the guys on there have already been through the thought process of questioning their own beliefs; TRP is essentially a last resort. Their experiences of reality didn't mesh with how they thought reality was (or rather, how they were taught), and taking the red pill was a reaction to that, because it provided a world view that more correctly aligned with their observations and experiences. They've already bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:05 PM
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Good video, always good to listen to someone with a genuine passion for this kind of stuff give a talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 08:38 PM
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You missed a third (correct) option: I've read most of these (or similar) papers previously. If you're really strapped for time, skip the intro and lit review, read the abstract, discussion and conclusion. If you want specific numbers or want to do your own analysis, go to the results. You can read the methodology if you really want, but generally any good paper will outline its own methodological flaws in the discussion. As for Sex at Dawn, like I said, it's not taken very seriously since it ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 06:21 PM
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Honestly? I think you're a coward who hides behind the thin veil of sarcasm, because it's easier to make fun of others than it is to provide something of substance that contributes to a discussion. If you did that, you might actually be proven wrong and be forced to evaluate your own position, rather than relying on smug ideological assertion and moral masturbation. You aren't secure enough for that. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that you provided actual refutation to what I wrote…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:46 PM
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"Pffft you only skimmed those articles, you shitlord. Gimme a sec to quickly skim those articles so I can tell you why you're wrong." Great argument there kemosabe, we're off to a fine start. First two links: not a criticism. In fact, not even relevant. Third, fourth links: Yep, you can, and it does a better job of explaining things like women being more likely to cheat on less attractive partners, and less attractive women being easier to sleep with (yes, I did read the conclusion to that artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:55 PM
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Sex at Dawn is pop-psych that has been heavily criticised by academics in the field because it pushes an agenda. It's not taken seriously as an example of actual evolutionary psychology. Your first link is actually very much in line with what TRP discusses; i.e. a) you shouldn't draw a moral conclusion from human nature (though the anger-phasers do, because they're still getting over it), b) generalizations are not absolute, but they do provide a worthwhile predictive tool (since generalizations…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 10:11 PM
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Language is a poor example, since the capability for language is clearly genetic. This should be fairly obvious given that every single culture on Earth has produced language. How the language sounds, and the vocabulary are social, but again, the underlying component that allows it to exist in the first place is purely genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:17 PM
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It's not a radical concept that drugs and alcohol can alter your mental state and produce a predictable set of behaviors, so I don't understand why it's so radical that hormone production in humans (which is largely -- though not entirely -- genetic, both the amount you produce and how your body reacts) can produce similarly predictable changes in behavior. I also struggle to see why the idea that women like masculine men is also so difficult to grasp. Frankly, I thought it was fairly self evide…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 07:22 PM
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This is retarded. Generalizations don't need to fully apply in order to be useful, they only need to apply enough. F = ma is a generalization, and yet it's good enough to build skyscrapers and take us to the moon (the actual law is F = d(mv)/dt, and even then you can only generalize it for low fractions of the speed of light, beyond which relativity takes over). Your bank applies generalizations regarding your ability to repay credit, and your doctor applies generalizations when it comes to your…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:33 PM
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They do: Our results indicate that women receive more lenient sentences even after controlling for circumstances such as the severity of the offense and past criminal history. From this paper, after a 20 second Google search. Someone arguing the same for blacks and Mexicans would be arguing against the evidence, since it's fairly well established that both of those groups suffer harsher sentences than white criminals. TLDR: Do some reading and get an education.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:06 PM
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I wouldn't say TRP hates mentally ill women, they just don't want to date them. Quite frankly, I think mentally ill women have the potential to fuck your life, no different than mentally ill men. Why would I willingly want to be in a relationship with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:58 PM
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This is a good question. I'm not so much bothered by the idea of mentally ill women (if the warning signs are there, I get out), but I am fascinated by the idea of female psycopathy/anti-social personality disorder. My pet theory is that BPD is actually just female psychopathy (or ASD or narcissistic personality disorder, depending on what's in vogue nowadays), and that we -- as a society -- are not good at identifying the damage caused by women with these disorders. Consider that for a male psy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:49 PM
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It's a matter of scale. You're comparing a super handsome underpants model with Joe Average who has nice shoes and a watch. Of course the average dude isn't gonna pull. A more apt comparison would be a billionaire, since we're talking about apex men here; men in the top percentage of looks versus the top percentage of earnings or status. In all cases, they'll slay. You think women are attracted to Tiger Woods because of his looks? How about James Packer or Mick Jagger? Also, why the moral postur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:51 PM
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This post is asinine. If you have enough status or money to be attractive to women (let's assume for the moment that your face looks like a pocket full of arseholes), who cares why they're attracted to you? The end result is still the same, if they're chasing money, status, or looks, they'll still go to bed with you. Don't marry them, don't have a relationship with them, and when some young stud comes along and mesmerizes them with his 6-pack, next them and move onto the next one. You can't be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:34 PM
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Define doomed. Frankly, I think the west will decline for two reasons: Corporations undermining government, and ripping the guts out of the majority of the population. They've moved to a post-nationalist model while the rest of us are still stuck with the downsides of nationalism (fixed borders, restrictions on easy movement between countries) and none of the upsides (protection against corruption and economic cronyism, for example). We're all in a race to the bottom as companies figure out new …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 11:49 AM
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It is self-evident, which is why these topics are ridiculous. I think the issue is caused by a difference in what men and women find attractive -- women see a doctor and think he's an amazing catch because he has status, wealth, and the associated character traits that got him there. Men aren't typically attracted to status and wealth in a woman; they don't hurt, but as someone who has dated very wealthy women, for most men the response is generally ambivalence. The only real reason for a guy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:24 PM
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I think I touch on most of your questions here I'm not attracted to lawyers, but I am attracted to women who work hard and overcome obstacles, because those are good traits for an LTR. A good lawyer may have those traits, or she may not, but if she does, it isn't the fact that she's a lawyer that makes me interested. If you're looking for an ONS or FB, a woman's talent and success have exactly zero effect on her attractiveness. Mark Zuckerberg and Sergey Brin are looking for life partners, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:57 PM
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NAWALT. Treating a woman like AWALT is the safest option given the current risks in divorce, child support etc. Best not to take a girl seriously as relationship material until she actually demonstrates that she isn't Like That. If you meet a girl who seems like she isn't a "crazy, unfaithful, gold digging whore", enough to want a relationship with her, her sexual history will reveal to you whether or not she is, in fact, Like That. Alternatively, it's a quick way of sorting which women are Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:07 PM
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Success at anything should always be lauded, talented people are always needed. You seem to be trapped by the ragebait on TRP, when really it's the product of tradcon morons whose deductive skills are roughly on par with the dim bulbs over at TBP. Since this seems to be a recurring theme on here, I'll break it down for you one step at a time. RP isn't without logic; it's a solution to a set of problems. That is, divorce rape, lack of male reproductive rights, and the sexual liberation of women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:48 AM
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So don't get married? Where did I advocate for men committing to gold diggers? I think any guy who gets married in this day and age is asking for trouble, especially in over-feminized, English-speaking western countries. Wealth and status are both attractive, end of story. Any guy with half a clue and a bit of wealth or status should use that to his advantage, and fuck to his heart's content. Maybe the girl will run off with some hotter guy because that's who she really wants, but who cares? Eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 09:00 PM
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You need to define your terms. If you're saying that money doesn't make someone more physically attractive, that's axiomatic. If you're saying that money doesn't make men more attractive to women, you're flat out wrong. Women chasing status and cash are no different to women chasing looks -- at the end of the day the result is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:22 PM
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You missed my point entirely. You stated that if a woman isn't initially attracted to you, no amount of PUA will ever help you. My point was that attraction is something that can be built even if the girl is not necessarily attracted to the way you look, because women are also attracted to things other than looks. You've still dodged the question on guys like Neil Strauss and Tyler Durden, and we can probably add Willie Beck and a few other PUAs to that list. There are also plenty of ugly movie …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:58 PM
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So women are purely physical, and if you're not hot, you aren't getting laid? Yeah, I think we both know that's bullshit. Being hot makes it easier to pick up, but there are plenty of guys who aren't conventionally good looking who still manage to slap ass and get laid. It also depends on what kind of relationship you're after. For ONS/FWB, physical looks are more important than for a relationship in which you need to be able to stand the person in the morning. Keep in mind that's not an excuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:16 PM
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The OKCupid data is fine; to neglect it, you would need to prove that there are significant differences between people who use OKCupid and the wider population, and that those differences somehow cause skewed sexual attractiveness ratings within the sampling population. The first is relatively easy to do (self-selection bias, though this becomes less true every day in the age of Tinder), but the second is much more tenuous, because there's no evidence to suggest that people who use online dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 09:05 AM
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