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Or... hear me out... Maybe she's saying that she made something of herself without him and has zero interest in getting back together with him. I should just block this toxic-ass sub.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/10/21 04:27 AM
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I'm not a centrist. I absolutely agree with one of the people in this conversation. But both people have poisoned the thread so thoroughly that absolutely no good can possibly come from continuing to discuss the core point.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/06/21 12:32 AM
3

Yup, just found the context. https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1079689981541543936 It is a bit weird how she threw in Anderson Cooper's annual salary, because it's comparing apples and oranges, but she literally says in the next tweet that she knows it's a good paycheck for one gig. It's also very likely that Cooper was paid some amount to host the NYE show separately from his annual salary. Personally I'm going to chalk this up to a stream-of-consciousness twitter thread, and agree that G…
/r/PussyPassDenied22/06/21 06:03 PM
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Everybody in this unnecessarily insult-filled thread looks painfully dumb. Including me.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/06/21 05:44 PM
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Same. I honestly think next time I fly I'll get one of those straps like in the pic, just so that my muscles aren't constantly straining to keep my legs together.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/21 04:35 AM
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I'm fairly sure it has more to do with the shape of the pelvis and the connecting muscles/tendons. But no doubt there is also the external genitalia issue, as well as the factor that some people (male and female) are absolute assholes and feel more important when they take up more space.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/21 03:26 AM
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Yup, it's there to trigger the misogynists so you'll all reveal yourselves.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 06:34 PM
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First, I didn't say it's all sexists. Second, the misogynists are very much welcome here, and it shows.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 06:34 PM
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At this moment in history, yes, public opinion falls lighter on women. I don't like that. I want equality. I'd be quite happy if both of the two subs were banned for the toxicity they tolerate and generate.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 08:09 AM
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Count the downvotes. If nobody cared, I would simply get ignored. You all care a lot. You know you are wrong, and you can't stand being called out for your flaws. Like children, you shout denials instead of examining yourselves.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 08:06 AM
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I said both are bad. What the fuck you want me to do? Look at all the downvotes because I said the truth about this sub. Y'all are toxic. Downvote all you want. It just shows your own poisoned hearts.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 08:02 AM
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Ok, what you just did there, that is whataboutism. That sub is bad, this sub is bad, I don't care which is worse, they're both bad.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 05:06 AM
-55

This some kind of whataboutism?
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 05:00 AM
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As a feminist dude who sees these on r/all occasionally, this sub is fuckin packed with misogynists. I like seeing dumb or mean people shot down, but the people in these threads are very obvious about their hate.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/04/21 04:55 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/22Ixskq.jpg It's a statement, not a deal.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/02/21 02:08 AM
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There's all kinds of dumb shit implied there. It's just dumb shit. It's unattractive people talking shit about attractive people to make themselves feel better. Because obviously if she asks her boyfriend to take lots of pictures of her, that means there can't possibly be any more levels in their relationship. It's classic sour grapes.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/11/20 10:07 AM
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This just in folks, attractive people are incapable of real relationships. The reddit experts have spoken.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/11/20 09:44 AM
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I honestly don't believe there are women who literally treat their boyfriends like tripods and nothing more. That's just dumb. Are there women who want to get their pic taken a lot for social media? Sure. So what? Everybody's got quirks and hobbies, and yeah maybe we indulge our partners more than we should. To me, the ONLY thing that matters is whether or not the ENTIRETY of the relationship is worth it. I honestly don't mind snapping pics. I even enjoy it most of the time. So if that's true, p…
/r/PussyPassDenied30/11/20 09:35 AM
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Possibly because he found out she was cheating? My guess, anyway. Then she starts to deny cheating, and he does this to prove she's lying.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/11/20 05:58 AM
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I'll be the photographer if she's worth taking pics of. No problem.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/11/20 05:56 AM
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You can at least get audio really easy whenever you're with somebody. Any modern cell phone will be able to do a "voice memo" or similar audio recording while the screen is turned off. Even in places where it's not legal evidence, having a recording can help keep your friends and loved ones on your side, in a similar way that we all side with Depp despite courts not protecting him.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/11/20 06:35 AM
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The vast majority of people who are arrested at protests are released a few hours later. That's not to say it's ok. It's still often a violation of 1st amendment rights. Just saying most aren't really going to face serious legal consequences.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/11/20 01:23 AM
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Seen this a couple times recently, but it turns out it's more than four years old. Found this video, which adds sound but zero more information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaOIdnxIx0w Anybody got more info?
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/20 03:37 AM
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That was awesome. I'd only ever seen a partial gif before.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/20 03:32 AM
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There have been studies on this. Men, on average, are more comfortable at a different room temperature than women. I don't think clothing choices were relevant. And the temperature affected work efficiency.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/07/19 08:56 PM
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It's already illegal to falsely accuse somebody of a crime! Are you all seriously this stupid? If prosecutors don't charge false accusers right now, then this bill won't suddenly force them to. That's not how our legal system works.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/19 03:35 PM
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How? I'm all about self-improvement. Tell me exactly how I contradicted myself.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/19 03:33 PM
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That's simply not how plea bargains work. If a prosecutor wants to bring charges, they bring charges. A false accuser doesn't get to automatically plead to a lesser charge. That's the prosecutor's decision. Clearly this bill is aimed at idiots. Probably the same idiots will praise this bill and then complain about "big government" in the next breath.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/19 04:33 AM
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It's already a crime. How is it not? It's just rarely prosecuted. This is a bullshit law from a bullshit party.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/19 02:05 AM
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I fully understand how evil cheating is. I also understand how immature and broken you have to be to wallow in another person's humiliation.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/19 04:54 AM
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Yeah, I knew as soon as I hit save that you immature assholes would assume I was siding with the cheating bitch. It's beyond your limited mental capacities to think that an honest person might dislike a cringefest revenge video.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/19 04:23 AM
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This is so childish. It's sickening how many people in here are just getting off on this. Just grow up, break up with her. But no, gotta make it a social media freak show. Y'all should be ashamed.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/19 04:02 AM
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Your first comment literally put words in my mouth. You made it very clear how irrational you are right from the start. If you don't want people to come back at you with anger, then don't assume things they didn't say. That's a good start. If you honestly thought that I was an insane person who was saying "We should totally not hold bad people accountable for their actions" then you could easily have said "Wait, are you implying that..." But no, you thought you knew what I meant, because you (an…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/02/19 04:15 AM
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No, my original comment was not throwing insults. But you would be stupid enough to interpret it that way. Because you think creating rules will solve all problems, and that people shouldn't ever exercise caution because that's victim blaming. For you, it never had the possibility of being a rational conversation, because you entered it with an irrational mind, as proven by your very fist idiotic comment.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/02/19 03:46 AM
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Your literally saying it’s pointless to hold people that commit crimes accountable. Again, never said that, never even implied it, and actually said the opposite. Here it is again for the reading impaired: Intelligent people address the issue from both sides, both self-defense and law enforcement. And fuck you for all of the idiots in the world you represent, who keep putting words in the mouths of people who want to take their own safety seriously to make it look like they are victim blamers. F…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/02/19 03:31 AM
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That's the kind of rampant stupidity that makes this such a difficult conversation to have. You think punishing a criminal erases the pain that the victims live with? You think that once you've put one person in jail (or kicked them out of a concert) that nobody else will ever repeat the crime? Nobody said we shouldn't hold people accountable for their actions. But you're a complete fool if you think passing laws and punishing criminals prevents all bad people from doing bad things. Intelligent …
/r/PussyPassDenied04/02/19 03:11 AM
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I thought the same thing. But I guess this sub has it's own version of refusing sensible self-defense advice and insisting that all bad people should become good people instead. Sure, sure, go ahead and hold your breath until that happens.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/19 08:38 AM
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It's not about "background checks". Those aren't bad, but obviously there are big issues that they simply don't cover. What we are lacking is a criminal investigation, because there have been criminal complaints alleged. For criminal investigation, yes, there is absolutely a point at which I would agree that the FBI has done a thorough and sufficient investigation. From the outside we would know a few things to show it was being taken seriously. And the first sign would be that the lawyers invol…
/r/MensRights07/10/18 04:42 AM
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Not gonna waste my time, you'll just handwave it all. And you won, so there's no point.
/r/MensRights07/10/18 12:41 AM
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I think perhaps you are responding to the wrong person. I would be thrilled to have a full investigation where the alleged victims are all actually interviewed by the authorities. And I think part of the danger of confirming Kavanaugh is that he is now under investigation for a lot of shit while being a Supreme Court Justice. That is very unhealthy for the country.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 09:31 PM
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There's tons of evidence, you just don't want to hear it because he's on your political side. People like you are fucking sick. And don't think I don't realize there's people like that on both sides of politics. Every one of you partisan shitheads make me physically ill. You're robots, programmed by political talking points instead of making rational, compassionate decisions for yourself.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 09:06 PM
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This decision could break our country. It's not something to joke about. Just like they're doing now with the states fight against FCC decisions on internet neutrality, there will be massive fights when Kavanaugh tilts all the decisions in the favor of big business and against individual rights. And suddenly the Democrats will become the party of State's Rights. Mark my word, it's already begun.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 09:01 PM
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Bullshit. Bull fucking shit. Fucking false equivalency lies.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:56 PM
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No, most people aren't hated to the point where others will interfere with their life. People hate you because you're an asshole. That's pretty fucking clear from two sentences you've written, I don't even need to meet you to know that.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:53 PM
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He has gone thru 7 Fbi background checks That just means he doesn't have any confirmed criminal activity that has been covered up. It does NOT mean that allegations have been properly considered and leads pursued. Any man accuse of sexual assault would also be emotional ... Clarence Thomas, as much as I hate his politics, was cool as a fucking cucumber. That's the temperament of a judge. You probably still think women are unfit for being "too emotional", but if it's a man showing inappropriate a…
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:50 PM
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What a load of shit. You look at the evidence and it overwhelmingly supports her, while his friends lie, and that's all you need to give him a pass. I'm not even saying he should be convicted of a crime, but are you seriously telling me that Republicans can't find a judge that would go through the vetting process without turning up hundreds of people who hate the choice? It's just so fucking absurd. They're supposed to be neutral arbiters of the law. Find somebody who has lead that life.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 08:45 PM
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He wasn't really investigated Tons of accusations ongoing Tons of legal professionals saying he's unfit Tons of people who actually know him saying he's unfit History of serious partisanship Displayed emotional instability in front of the world. Planned. If you really can't see why he's an awful choice, then you're deep right partisan.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 06:27 PM
2

Counterpoint: Kavanaugh is getting confirmed today. So there's that.
/r/MensRights06/10/18 06:02 PM
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To be fair, the lips are connected to the anus via a tube that is 90% full of shit.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/18 09:02 PM
2

lol, that's the point, ding-dong.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/18 09:00 PM
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Well, it doesn't work both ways, since there are exemptions for women but not men. Not sure why you'd choose to nit-pick that point.
/r/MensRights12/07/18 12:21 AM
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It's not a good defense because there is an actual law against discriminating against women. They don't care about your logical, ethical, moral opinion. There's a law. Of course I think the law needs to be changed to allow a few men-only spaces, but until that happens, you can't discriminate against women without risking a lawsuit.
/r/MensRights11/07/18 10:24 PM
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Well, suing over it is still pretty malicious, I'm just not sure that was her intent going in.
/r/MensRights11/07/18 09:07 PM
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"The basis of the claim is that the barber shop refused to simply run the clippers through my daughter's undercut, because she was a girl," the statement said. I can see we've all go the pitchforks out here, but there's a chance she legitimately was just looking for a cheap buzz for her daughter's undercut. https://i.imgur.com/cipSZD5.jpg At a salon, that would probably cost waaaay more than a quick buzz at a barber shop. Maybe the lady was looking for a fight, I don't know. But the story is pla…
/r/MensRights11/07/18 07:36 PM
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Sounds like the lawsuits are finally penetrating some thick skulls. Glad to hear it's finally happening. Next thing I'd like to hear is how the statistics relate to off-campus, and how many "sexual assaults" are party/alcohol related hookups.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 07:48 PM
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I can't WAIT until we get a few years worth of real world data. Because some of us already know what it will say. Highest paying jobs will be the most competitive, with accordingly highest requirements, and it will be mostly men applying. The exceptions to this rule are already evident, as there are tons of women doctors and people seem to conveniently not talk about that when they rant about the "wage gap". The fields where there are still significantly fewer women are fields where women simply…
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/18 12:48 AM
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Unlikely. Men are much more strongly driven toward high risk/high reward/time-intensive careers. Women are more likely to take balanced work/life over income no matter how skewed the college graduate demographics get. That's probably the major reason why there's an income gap to begin with, and why women will probably never have equal representation in the most competitive companies. And I agree about the demographics of the wealthy. Just look at China and you won't see white people at the top.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/03/18 12:09 AM
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imho the President doesn't really count for this context, because it's a fairly complicated series of popularity votes, and also temporary. And also not as powerful as Congress, which is overwhelmingly white. It should be noted that this is changing: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/24/115th-congress-sets-new-high-for-racial-ethnic-diversity/ But if I'm honest, I still see Congress as mostly a puppet of the rich through lobbying, campaign donations, and various other tactics. Therefo…
/r/PussyPassDenied16/03/18 11:40 PM
1

Wouldn't it be amazing if a part of every class that involved references, such as history or research papers, included an emphasis on systematically separating evidence from implication, deduction, and emotion? Perhaps include an examination of the author's bio to identify likely biases? Holy shit, what a world we would have with a generation or two of young people who tear political bullshit apart as if it was second nature.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 11:38 PM
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This is exactly why we need to teach bias resistance in all levels of school. You're not smart if you don't recognize and correct for your own personal biases. In fact, failure to do so is practically the definition of ignorance.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 08:30 PM
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Because we all "know" that no man has ever gotten away with rape because the police fucked up. Nah, that hasn't happened.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 06:46 PM
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MFW I say something true that goes agaisnt the circle-jerk
/r/MensRights15/12/17 11:12 PM
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Looks to me more like "I'm going to stay calm even though he totally overreacted like an asshole." edit: You seriously think she's going to accept responsibility? Whatever.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/12/17 12:41 AM
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Transparently biased, honestly.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 07:39 PM
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Yeah, it would be nice if the article included research about the supposed trolls that supposedly weren't banned.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 07:29 PM
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The article claims that people harassing them are not receiving bans. This is the only aspect I find troubling. I don't like hypocrisy on either side. Ban women for saying sexist shit, that's great. But facebook and other platforms also need to ban the people attacking them. It's got to be equal to be any kind of solution.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 06:10 PM
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Are you saying that the problem is not getting the infant's consent? Because I think it's safe to assume the researches had the consent of the parents.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 06:04 PM
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Sure, let's set aside your sexual preference for pre-pubescent boys and have a respectful discussion. Bullshit statements like that make it very hard to take you seriously. But let's go ahead and set that aside so that we can destroy your other implicit claim. so that women's purchasing power is brought up to the same as men's You want to share some of that "empiric data"? Women control more than 60% of all personal wealth in the U.S. (Source: Federal Reserve, MassMutual Financial Group, Busines…
/r/MensRights22/10/17 11:42 PM
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Oh, the second great avoider on reddit! "I can't argue with your current comment, so I will dig through your comment history!" 2 for 2 now. You got any other classic "I am wrong and won't admit it" strategies?
/r/MensRights22/10/17 06:57 PM
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Haha! Yeah, don't have a good response? Just throw insults! Misogynist! Nazi! I take it as a sign of forfeiture.
/r/MensRights22/10/17 04:40 PM
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No, you're bending over backwards to justify the argument, when the truth is that it's a false political talking point. Politicians and activists say it with the intention of misleading the uneducated masses into believing that women are paid less than men for the same work, and that's flat out not true (within a margin of error). Once you learn about the topic enough to realize that women choose to focus less on their careers, that they choose lower paying jobs, that they choose to take the eas…
/r/MensRights22/10/17 01:47 AM
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Multi-tasking is a way to do several things poorly.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/10/17 11:21 PM
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"I hear that's like really bad for you." - Archer
/r/PussyPassDenied16/10/17 11:08 PM
1

I say wash them when they smell bad.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/10/17 04:10 PM
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Wash them when you feel like it, but you should know that lots of people who know clothing say that you don't have to wash them often, maybe ever. One manufacturer CEO says he only ever spot cleans them, never wash. I think that's a bit extreme and maybe he was just trolling. I say wash them when they smell bad. Not very often.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/10/17 05:02 AM
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Fair enough. Still, they were exemplifying the behavior racists latch on to. I mean, if I act like trailer trash should people get upset when somebody calls me trailer trash? There's no defending the behavior of these women, that's all I'm saying. If they were all being mature, upstanding citizens, I could get upset at somebody hurling an epithet. But as it stands, I can't say they don't deserve it.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/17 06:57 AM
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I really, really don't want to look like I'm defending racism. But those women were acting sub-human.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/17 06:34 AM
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I kinda wish I could have watched this trial. It really sounds absurd. Because according to reports, two things happened in that bedroom, and both parties acknowledged them: 1) The man said he wanted to break up with her, and 2) they had sex. Is it theoretically possible that the man raped the woman after saying he wanted to break up? Sure, but it doesn't sound likely to me. Then how is her behavior explained? Very, very easily. She fucked him in an attempt to change his mind, then became enrage…
/r/MensRights27/07/16 10:21 PM
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It can get confusing. I avoid referring to "thread starters" as OP. It used to be pretty common, but now most people reserve that term for the person who actually submitted the post to the subreddit.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 10:12 PM
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Holy shit. I read it wrong. I thought she was the one who said she wanted to break up just before the sex. But it was him. Ururyar told the court the two arrived at his home, got undressed and got into bed. He said he wanted to end the relationship. Gray said that's when he put his penis in her mouth and raped her. Fuuuuck. I feel sick now. It's such an obvious lie.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 10:05 PM
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Retreat is not a strategy. You've said this a number of times, and I'm not sure if your intention is to be insulting, and if so, to who? Retreat is a tactic that is incredibly important when encountering a failure, and might even be a part of an intentional strategy for victory. In the context of a man new to RP, it might be very beneficial to exit the SMP and spend some time focusing on self-improvement and finding who he is outside of relationships, outside of the chase to impress potential li…
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 09:09 PM
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There are, but you shouldn't wait for signals. Go for what you want, and talk to her to find out if she's up to your standards. Do not allow yourself to live in the frame of "I'll only talk to women if I think they'll probably like me." You are putting too much emphasis on what they think before they've even met you, and you will be lowering your standards to the point that you'll go for anything that breathes and shows interest.
/r/seduction16/10/13 11:57 PM
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Best thing to do is recognize your mistakes and work to not repeat them!
/r/seduction16/10/13 11:53 PM
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And in return she'll do more to keep you happy!
/r/seduction16/10/13 11:51 PM
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There are so many idiots like that in the world that I no longer match pace with anyone. In this situation I would have kept slowing down until she stopped looking. I don't need some idiot freaking out and flagging down a cop. I have places I'd rather be.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/13 11:16 PM
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Your lack of explanation is as good as admitting you are wrong.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/13 03:16 AM
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Maybe go try this theory on /r/LegalAdvice. Post a comment saying, "I am not a lawyer, and I think the law is bad on this topic because..." and see how fast you get "ostracized". The guys here, especially the mods, have a lot of experience with what they are talking about and there is little tolerance for nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 11:30 PM
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Plus men tend to grow more attractive as they age and mature. And of course guys should always be working on improving themselves, so the next time around he might have become the kind of guy she's looking for.
/r/seduction25/09/13 10:21 PM
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This is an excellent example of what guys should be doing. That guy didn't just transfix on the one girl he wanted. He kept dating other women, playing the field, and when the opportunity arose, he tried again.
/r/seduction25/09/13 10:03 PM
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I've looked at a lot of different PUA techniques, and I really agree with you there. I think direct, relaxed, confident, playful is hands down the most mature and respectable pickup method. Indirect can work, but the more I look at it the more I believe it is primarily for picking up low self-respect women, whereas direct works with high quality women. Of course it relies on a man living the life of a high quality man, but that's why I say it is the most "mature" method. It's for guys who have t…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/13 07:08 PM
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Then you are a fool shouting into the void. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing and accomplishing less. Why are you here? I came to learn, and one of the things I'm learning is that right wingers are a bunch of ignorant heartless assholes who are completely incapable of thinking a problem (or political system) through to logical conclusions.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/13 05:49 PM
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The problem is you are not hurting them. You are hurting this community. There is so much hate for the left wing in this community already that I often feel unwelcome. If you want those extremists marginalized instead of embraced, you need people like me. So yes, fighting dirty hurts you. This is a nearly universal truth. Short term, fighting dirty helps. Long term, it hurts. And this is not a short term problem.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/13 05:08 PM
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The problem is that it has the word "left" as the primary root. It makes it look like you are talking about everybody on the left, just as if I was to say "right-tard". Oh, I'm only talking about the idiots who deny global warming and think invading foreign countries will end terrorism. Please, just stick to "radical feminists" if you are talking about radical feminists. There are plenty of feminists on the right wing as well.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/13 04:29 PM
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I believe that certain subs can forbid linking from certain other subs. Not as general as you are thinking.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/13 06:40 PM
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You know, there are some left leaning people here on TRP. Please don't lump us in with those nutbars in TBP. In return, I won't call you a tea-bagger.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/13 06:39 PM
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Apparently you have to wait a few days after making a new account before you can post here. I understand why, but that makes it a bit awkward to advise people to make an alt account.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/13 06:32 PM
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Did you read to the end? "I see the burqa on the streets of Paris and New York and feel that Afghanistan has followed me back to America." Paranoid much?
/r/TheRedPill23/09/13 05:43 PM
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You've gotten some good advice from others here, but I just want to remind you of one thing. Women use nice guys for validation the way men use sluts for sex. If you are not getting anything from her for the validation she is getting from you, then she is using you like an attention slut, and you are giving it up to her whenever she wants. Either get something out of the relationship, or cut it off.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/13 05:53 AM
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What she's saying is correct for women with self-esteem. Petty women are only interested in what a guy has, quality women are interested in what a guy is. While those two qualities often overlap, they don't always. And high self-esteem women will be on the lookout for "fake" guys who have a lot (often because they have rich parents) but are always on the verge of losing it due to stupidity and laziness. Yes, you can still interpret it as a woman wanting a man who will have resources for her futu…
/r/seduction20/09/13 05:17 PM
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What is awesome is seeing how simple (though not necessarily "easy") it is to differentiate yourself. Cool, calm, collected, in the moment. Humor. Listening to her and responding appropriately instead of trying to steer the conversation to things you can brag about. I especially liked how she mentioned eye contact. "Like he can’t take his focus off me. It grabs you." This is a great reminder of how human beings tend to mirror each other. If she is entrancing to you, and you can keep your cool en…
/r/seduction20/09/13 05:09 PM
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Not that it's impossible, but I always question how she interprets "approach". Some beautiful women say they never get approached, and some say it's 10 times a day. To me that means they are interpreting interactions differently. For example, if a guy smiles and says "Hi" is that an approach, or is it just somebody being friendly? If a guy doesn't ask her to come with him for a drink or meal or other activity, or at least for her number, does it count as an approach or not? I suspect some women …
/r/seduction20/09/13 05:05 PM
2

It's certainly an option, but it means more work and more risk than I care for. My only point was that you don't necessarily need to be sleeping with multiple women to be spinning plates and ready to move on at a moment's notice.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 02:01 AM
12

I see how you are interpreting his statements, but I think he's referring to "spinning plates", which doesn't necessarily mean you are actually sleeping with multiple women. Just that you are in contact with multiple women and keeping your social skills sharp so that when the woman you are sleeping with drops out of play you can transition fairly quickly to another high quality woman. And even knowing that you can do it will solve many problems with the woman you are currently with, as she will …
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 11:26 PM
1

Yes, that's one option.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/13 03:52 AM
4

That doesn't work for me at all. I just wound up with a lot of female friends. I have to push the sexual undertones more than I would with regular friends. And since that's not in my comfort zone, it's challenging. But necessary.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/13 11:56 PM
3

If it were me, I think I'd be going through the same process. It's important not to make that phone call with an agenda or prejudice. Let him say what he will, take it with a grain of salt whatever he says, then try to let it go.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 08:09 PM
5

I would call him and ask his side of the story before trusting rumors. Any man that would shoot his dog like that is a psychopath, plain and simple. And if that really is the story, stay the hell away. Just hang up the phone and forget you ever knew him. But I suspect there's a different story there.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 07:59 PM
5

Mystery Method explains the surface traits, while Models explains how to live a life that naturally leads a man to have those surface traits plus the reality to back them up. Yes, for a comprehensive understanding of pickup, I would say a guy should read both. But MM quickly becomes unnecessary when you start adjusting to going after what you really want instead of trying to bed every cute girl you meet.
/r/seduction10/09/13 07:06 PM
14

Exactly. It's like a series of "That's so obvious now that somebody has said it. Why isn't everybody just taught this in school?" I mean, take out the stuff about picking up chicks and it's basically "How To Live A Healthy, Happy Life". It makes every other pickup guide look like "How To Be A Sad, Fake, Try-hard".
/r/seduction10/09/13 07:00 PM
1

Source?
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 05:11 PM
4

Because weight lifters never have strokes? Come on, son.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 02:24 AM
10

Always more, but they get less frequent.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/13 05:02 PM
5

I agree, it is possible. And for lesser cheating offenses, I have even argued recently that the couple should go to counseling before divorcing. But it is absolutely absurd for this level of betrayal that anybody should expect her to stay with the guy. That is what I am arguing here. The idea that she shouldn't file for divorce and deserves to be alone because she did? Ridiculous. There are plenty of other things to mock this person about, but that is not one of them.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 08:29 PM
19

This is nonsense. The man impregnated another woman. The marriage is kaput. Now if you want to argue that her usurpation of the male role in the marriage is partially at fault for pushing him away from their relationship, that's reasonable. But I've never bought that "she filed for divorce, so she's in the wrong" argument that goes around this sub. It's absolute bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 02:56 PM
19

Her husband cheated. Why shouldn't she file?
/r/TheRedPill04/09/13 01:40 PM
31

She should just tell employers that she spent the last 6-8 years in a coma.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 10:04 PM
2

I would kill to be able to go back in time and advise myself to do that. I got NO advice when I was choosing a major, and I was horribly naive.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 10:03 PM
3

This discussion has made me think the government should stop guaranteeing useless degrees. I wish this had happened to me, honestly. I would have been heartbroken to not be able to major in acting in college, but my second choice would have gotten me a job, and a minor in acting would have been just as fun. If I could only go back 20 years and advise myself...
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 10:02 PM
2

I'm fairly sure the US guarantees student loans as well, though they don't get expunged if she were to declare bankruptcy. So she'll just be paying for it until she dies.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 09:59 PM
1

I agree. She got defensive, too, but at least she kept her cool. He just looks like an ape man pounding his chest yelling "you're not my mommy!" I think there's a clear rift between guys who think this is ok behavior and those who prefer men to be a little classier. Probably neither is really wrong, we just have different preferences. Some prefer low brow, some prefer high brow.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/13 01:20 PM
9

It's a shallow article, but it's suggestions are mostly just the flip side of the points you are making. 1) Be confident - Can be translated as not ever being afraid to speak your mind, expressing your opinions, even if that insults her or contradicts something she just said. 2) Be engaging - Last minute plans keep things exciting and mysterious, and being vague about what you do with other people enhances this feeling for her 3) Have a strong mindset of self-worth and abundance - You have many …
/r/seduction30/08/13 06:12 PM
-1

I'm not sure what misunderstanding you're talking about. Some people do better in group situations, and some do better getting to 1 on 1 as soon as possible. Saying that "Everybody does better 1 on 1" is nonsense. Many people find playing on group dynamics gets them further faster, so that by the time they isolate the seduction is done and it becomes all physical.
/r/seduction27/08/13 05:21 PM
3

Most people would say "Models" is about inner game, though the author says it's much bigger than that. It's about setting yourself up to be somebody you are proud of, who attracts quality people into his life naturally by living well by your own standards. When you are comfortable with yourself and proud of who you are, and you have established exactly what you are looking for out of each social interaction, then it becomes much more natural to meet women during the course of a normal day instea…
/r/seduction27/08/13 05:16 PM
0

True, but some people are better at one on one from the start, avoiding the group dynamics part. Others are good at group dynamics, and will do almost all the work in a set, then as soon as they isolate go straight to making out. It would make sense that the best are good at both, but it's no surprise that many are better in one setting than the other.
/r/seduction27/08/13 04:58 PM
2

Several people have mentioned "Models" by Mark Manson over the past couple of months. It's about creating a life for yourself that naturally attracts women. I haven't finished the book yet, but so far I think it's the ideal "game" for introverts.
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:17 PM
6

Not true. A lot of the advice given from master PUAs is about group dynamics. It's expected that the bulk of the attraction work is done in groups settings.
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:12 PM
4

That's still a lot of empty calories. If one felt it was necessary to have alcohol in the evenings, I would switch to a glass of wine, or better yet, sip a single serving of scotch as the evening reward.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/13 07:32 PM
1

That's pretty hardcore. I don't think I would want to interrupt a typical social gathering with such a display. But then again, would such a dominance display be more attractive to women who witness it, or would it be interpreted as petty? Something to think about.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/13 01:09 AM
7

And about shaming men for liking sex.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/13 11:32 PM
2

Agreed. For the smaller truth-twists, I would smile and say "That's not the way I remember it, but whatever." That calls out the lie, but also shows it's not that important. And for the more serious ones my instinct is to smile and lightly say, "Hey, I thought we were all here to have a good time. Why are you making up lies?" With a little adjustment the first sentence should be able to fit most contexts, and makes it clear that she is the one ruining the mood while you remain unfazed. The secon…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/13 10:19 PM
3

Sampling bias. Tons of guys are into mystical shit too. All humans mis-percieve reality to one degree or another. Don't be one of those guys who thinks all guys are savvy and all girls are gullible. It makes you look stupid. And you'll only ever date women who are gullible, because that is what you expect, and women who are not will be turned off by your expectations. Select for higher quality women and you'll find them. But of course that means you have to be a higher quality man. That's what I…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 10:07 PM
21

And never take their advice. I think this is stated too much around here. Just remember that any advice a woman gives comes from a woman's point of view, and so it must be treated as suspect. But that doesn't mean it can't be interesting or helpful sometimes.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 11:40 PM
2

Pivots are great.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 11:38 PM
6

zen motherfucker qft
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 07:10 PM
5

There is too much angry and bitter. Better to get on the side that is benefiting from the way the world works. Easier said than done, but possible.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 06:37 PM
3

Depends on how you define "hit on". If they walk past a guy and he smiles at them, they might define that as being hit on. There needs to be a distinction between "recognized as attractive" and "approached for social interaction". But just knowing that women are getting "attention" that many times a day is interesting, if not particularly useful.
/r/seduction16/08/13 04:44 PM
1

Yeah, it's best to only "remember" the common interests you have, not what her favorite boy band is or the fact that she was wearing sling-backs. If she likes one of your favorite bands or types of food, then certainly don't forget that.
/r/seduction16/08/13 04:35 PM
2

I doubt it. Girls are more likely to be open about personal stuff in a group setting where everybody is being open and honest. They tend to clam up in one-on-one settings, at least from my experience.
/r/seduction16/08/13 01:42 PM
1

Theater.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 01:02 PM
11

Theater. Fucking fantastic major for being around fun outrageous people, everybody dating each other all the time, playing around on stage and enjoying applause. After graduating... crickets. Sadly, this is something I realized partway through college, but I couldn't get the funding to switch majors. They said I was too close to graduating, so I had to finish up and get out or drop out. And any degree is better than no degree.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 10:05 PM
1

No, I'm trying to point out that you are spending a lot of money on something that will never make you any money. Cash down the drain.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:59 PM
1

I'm not going to deny that work ethic is a very important aspect to increasing your odds of career success, but there are some damn hard working janitors and day laborers out there. Those people are not going to climb the corporate ladder. Hard work is NOT the end-all-be-all of success. It also takes luck and foresight. Making a plan five or ten years into the future is going to help a lot more than working 12 hour shifts in a dead end job.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:43 PM
4

Just wondering how much money you're spending on that useless major.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:39 PM
10

This is it right here. I hit the male version of the wall when I graduated from college with a degree in something I loved, but had zero fucking job prospects. Not only is a guy with no career have low SMV, he also is likely to have no self confidence or anything else that could make him appealing.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:36 PM
2

Absolutely. It's all tied into that bullshit mentality of "You can do anything if you really try!" Well, maybe, but you can also fall flat on your face and die in the gutter despite really trying.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:30 PM
1

And I know some kick ass musicians, actors, and artists who are dirt poor, scraping by on low paying part time jobs, and hating life. The ones I know who are happiest have regular jobs, and do their art on the side. Sure, if you succeed in an artistic career, life can be great! But that's maybe 5% of everybody who wants to succeed in an artistic career. If I knew then what I know now, I'd sure as hell take the path more likely to earn a decent wage. Fuck you for calling it the pussy way out. It'…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:28 PM
19

What job market are you dreaming of? These days if you don't have a degree, some places won't even look at the rest of your resume. Because they'll have applicants with everything that you have PLUS a degree.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:22 PM
0

There's a full summary of the book in one of the reviews.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:20 PM
27

40 years old and still paying for my stupid fucking major choice. I should have gone into computer programming, but I was dumb and thought it would be "boring". I'm telling you 90% of job satisfaction is fitting in with your workplace's culture, not the actual work you do. If you wind up not liking your job, you don't change careers, you change your employer. Instead of that bullshit about "Do what you love and figure out how to make money doing it" (which can be absurdly hard and lead to a life…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:16 PM
10

Let's be honest. The kid from Twilight was skinny. But that other dude in the movie was pretty built. I think they had one of each so the girls could have their preference.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 12:29 AM
5

Quite true. I'm more interested in the studies where they have brain scans and vaginal sensors recording while showing pictures. Those studies are very interesting. I don't recall at the moment if they said anything about ideal male bodies. But I do recall that women were turned on by photos of lesbians even if they didn't consciously think they were.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 12:19 AM
0

I've always said that my goal is to have a body like a pro beach volleyball player. Lean but strong, ready for just about any sporting competition. And that's because I believe that an active life is the happiest life, and lean strength enables the most successful activeness. It would be true whether women liked it or not, but I think we'd all agree that biologically speaking, that's what women want the most whether they know it or not. A guy like that is going to be telegraphing that he can do …
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 12:13 AM
15

Amazing that they could even consider saying "mind your own business" to someone they are planning on being lifelong mates with.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/13 10:44 PM
6

She is holding out because there is no attraction. Ding! This is something that TRP helped me realize. There are men who women want to use and abuse them (Alphas) and then there are men that women are just "using" for a relationship (Betas) because of the benefits relationships give them. If you have any doubts as to whether you are an alpha in your woman's eyes, take a good hard look at your sex life.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/13 10:41 PM
5

Vulnerability, courage. Yep, it's tough.
/r/seduction08/08/13 06:22 PM
7

There are women who think shyness is cute. It gives them a mental space to imagine their dream man underneath. They will expect you to overcome it before too long, but this minority of women will give you a second chance to break out of your shell.
/r/seduction08/08/13 06:20 PM
56

I'm fairly sure it's a metaphor for the man's life and relationship with his wife, who he regrets not making a deeper connection with. The key line is But no, you were gone. And I realized most likely I would never see you again. And I thought about how amazing it is that you can know somebody for sixty years and yet still not really know that person at all. It's only approach anxiety on the surface. This is about the fear of true intimacy.
/r/seduction08/08/13 06:17 PM
1

Meh, it was just a poor attempt at humor. There have been too many lunatics coming through here that think any physical touching is rape.
/r/seduction08/08/13 02:57 PM
-1

its important to touch people in a way that doesn't violate them Ah, the new seddit code... (wink)... I totally agree!
/r/seduction08/08/13 12:13 AM
16

I wonder how these same people would react if this technique was suggested from the woman's point of view (like I'm sure has happened in Cosmo): Take an opportunity to whisper something in his ear. When you lean in, let your breast brush against his arm or chest, preferably on some exposed skin. It will catapult his desire for you into the stratosphere! Oh my god! I feel violated just thinking about it! What if I don't want a women touching me with her boob? Where's the respect for my wishes?? M…
/r/seduction05/08/13 08:58 PM
9

Never take advice from a fish on how to catch fish. Listen to an experienced fisherman.
/r/seduction05/08/13 08:55 PM
4

So true! This is the part that is so frustrating about people who critique pickup all the time. Seduction is about pushing the envelope! If you want everybody to be perfectly comfortable all the time, you are going to end up in the friendzone 99.9% of the time, and the times you are successful will be veeeerrrry slow.
/r/seduction05/08/13 08:53 PM
5

I am of the opinion that most of the opinions held against women on this sub are equally valid against men. But the design of this sub is as much for venting as it is for learning, so there's not much use in being equitable around here. It can be quite frustrating sifting through the negativity to find the gems of wisdom. But for the moment, it's all we've got. If I had more experience and knowledge in the subject, I'd probably start my own blog and sub, but that probably won't be a reasonable p…
/r/TheRedPill03/08/13 02:16 AM
4

But in a good way!
/r/TheRedPill02/08/13 04:42 PM
4

I feel like TRP was a serious eye-opener, but it didn't really change the trajectory of my life so much. I've been in "what the fuck am I supposed to do now" mode for about a year, and I haven't quite figured it out. Too much theory, not enough action plan. I'm currently reading Models by Mark Manson, which looks very promising. I'm planning on checking out /r/becomeaman after that. Best of luck to you.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/13 12:03 AM
6

40 and 10, myself. Trying to turn it around, but fuck, it's not easy.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 11:13 PM
1

I really don't understand what you are saying with this post, Costafarian. She seems to be sincere, and I can honestly say what she is saying makes sense. Women sometimes feel unsafe when people they don't know seem to be objectifying them. Actually, let's put it another way. Women are reminded that they are vulnerable to attack when objectified by a stranger. She says right in the post "I'm not saying all men are awful. I'm saying that decent men should be the norm, but there are a lot of men w…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/13 03:43 AM
13

I'm not saying false rape allegations are rare, but using the armed services as a reference is really, really unhelpful. There is tremendous pressure for the victim to reverse her position for the stability of the unit. This is a serious problem that the armed forces continues to deal with to this day. I can't imagine it would have been better back in 1985.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/13 01:53 PM
1

This is so fundamental to seduction that it is easily overlooked, and then when some kid "discovers" it for himself, he thinks he's a genius. Well, you are smarter than many, so I'll give you that. Think about it for a second. Every seduction tactic and piece of advice (that is not some form of deception) comes from a place of value giving. It is foundational to being a self-assured guy, and everything you want to do while interacting with a woman is either value giving or an indication that you…
/r/seduction30/07/13 05:20 AM
1

Negging is the single most misunderstood tactic in the seduction community. This is from the man who coined the term (I think) or at least did the most to popularize it, Mystery: you are sincerely being funny and not insulting. You are pleasant but disinterested in her beauty. (source) It's not to hurt her, or knock her down a peg, lower her self esteem or any of that malicious bullshit. It's to get a hot girl to drop her bitch shields by making her curious about you. It's a self-disqualifier co…
/r/seduction30/07/13 05:15 AM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1ja8tp/be_a_fucking_value_giver/cbcu2zt
/r/seduction30/07/13 04:59 AM
1

Heh, I think I'd prefer to call it The Matterhorn, but to each their own!
/r/seduction30/07/13 04:50 AM
2

Yes, that.
/r/seduction27/07/13 06:19 PM
16

Umm.... Yeah they do. At least sometimes. Especially if you are a ghost that turns into a tomato.
/r/seduction26/07/13 11:52 PM
6

Not that late in the game, anyway.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/13 08:48 PM
6

I absolutely agree, but it should go both ways. Both parents, when faced with a request from a kid should ask if they already asked their other parent. You can probably already sense it has happened much of the time. ALWAYS back up your partner. If you disagree, have the debate away from the child, then present the conclusion together. If you are overturning your wife's decisions all the time, the children will not respect the mother, and that is very bad.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/13 08:38 PM
3

That only kicks in after the rebellious teen years. But it's better than nothing.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/13 08:35 PM
1

So if you're shadow banned, nobody votes on your comments or replies, right? Seems like an easy way to know, at least if you're an active user.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 03:57 PM
2

I guess I was too subtle for you. Different people have different tastes. I'm not attracted to black women, and it really doesn't matter what your reasons are for liking them. That won't change my mind. So asking why somebody likes Asian women is stupid, because their reasons won't change your mind. Either you like them or don't.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 02:48 PM
3

Let's not have this discussion again. All it does is generate hate.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 05:11 AM
3

but why?
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 05:09 AM
2

Asian porn ruined my yellow fever. *shudder*
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 05:08 AM
1

ESPECIALLY women who are from conservative areas that are currently OUTSIDE of their conservative area!
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 05:07 AM
5

Don't forget that a lot of people on this board are quite happy with dump and pump. For them, it's just riding a relationship into the ground because that's all they want. From that perspective, getting the pussy is the hard part, because there's literally no effort put in after that.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 05:05 AM
9

hehe, I have different nicknames for every Heather I know. Usually a reference to some name from a tv show or book character that they remind me of. Some are not very complimentary, but it's not in plain language, so nobody would ever see "Crazy" on an incoming call.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/13 04:56 AM
1

That makes no sense. What is Alpha except an ideal to strive toward? My main argument is this: Even though it is easy to label certain behaviors as alpha or beta, the underlying frame that a person is operating from can turn some typical alpha behaviors into beta, and the reverse.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 09:50 PM
4

I usually agree with you, but I think that definition of Alpha Prima is not helpful or healthy. In my opinion, an Alpha is a person who thoughtfully decides what they want in life and then takes the steps necessary to accomplish it. It often requires taking a leadership position and always requires maintaining solid self confidence in the face of adversity. But it says nothing about fucking women. That just happens to be something that most hetero men want to do a lot of. If I decide that what I…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 09:31 PM
6

Stop assuming facts that are not in evidence.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 08:43 PM
5

Carousel riding is multiple short term sexual relationships. That doesn't apply here.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 08:34 PM
2

I might do this with a particularly fascinating woman, but it's generally a bad policy. Especially early on in the relationship, women can smell if you are more into it than them, and it can come across as desperation. If it works for you, great! But I would not advise it for others. I believe in getting more relationship satisfaction out of learning to spin multiple plates.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 08:31 PM
7

We always stay too long when the sex is goo.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 08:26 PM
6

I think using "beta traits" in this context is a misnomer. Beta means coming from a place of neediness and insecurity. A traditional "beta" behavior from a place of confidence is not a beta trait. For example, do you provide for your wife because she is the boss, or because you have made the decision to take responsibility for her well-being, as you do for all of your family?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/13 08:19 PM
2

Depends on how picky you are. If you are not really picky, just hit up some dive bars between 11pm and 1am. Then just be friendly and chat with the cougars. Many of them will happily take charge, and all they need from you is a smile and a welcoming attitude.
/r/seduction16/07/13 11:34 PM
3

No, that's generally used sarcastically.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/13 11:09 PM
0

Naked Gun full body condoms.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 08:29 PM
3

Yes, that's absolutely a possibility. I'm just saying that you shouldn't dismiss the official explanation just because it is official.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 06:18 PM
2

Still, it's reasonable. Women in their early 30's hear that biological clock pounding in their ears, then one day they finally realize that George is NOT going to give them babies.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 06:04 PM
15

Hugh has got a few other things going for him, though. That guy really set himself up well. His entire business model is a filter for the kind of women who are willing to bang an old dude for modeling exposure, which costs him almost nothing. Most old guys, even when reasonably wealthy, don't have what it takes to get the 20 somethings, and even then they have to fork out real cash to make it happen.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 06:00 PM
1

If anything, people are not cynical enough to account for reality.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 05:59 PM
0

I'm actually quite good at it. You just have to get into the frame that what you are saying is reality, and you are simply acting normally for the reality you have chosen internally. But it makes me feel sick afterward.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 02:35 AM
-2

I can't be a liar. I have to be honest about my opinions. BUT, I think I can learn to stay quiet and not engage. Like you say, just sit back and smile. No need to be deceitful.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/13 10:00 PM
3

Probably saw a comment that was RES tagged with a bunch of downvotes and traced it back here. White Knight Patrol.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/13 04:40 AM
2

I've heard similar statements from a number of people. I think it has been referred to as "buying temperature". Keeping that going from one day to the next is very difficult, since you are traversing from "heat-of-the-moment fling" to "relationship prospect", whether you want to or not. Strike while the iron is hot, as they say. Turning a fling into a relationship, if that is what you want, is more likely than the opposite.
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:26 PM
6

Doesn't HB stand for Hot Babe? Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I die a little when I see people put HB5 or HB6. Hello? If you are rating a girl at a 5 or 6 then she's not that hot. It doesn't even make sense unless you would rate them a 9 or 10. The only thing that really matters is if she falls into the "yes I would" or "no I wouldn't" categories. Otherwise I think it matters much more what the girl's attitude is. Friendly? Stuck up? This actually affects the interaction and makes the story more u…
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:17 PM
2

And I would love to develop mechanisms to correct those poor decisions, and make sure they're not abusing the system. Also, re:trillions in debt, if that money had been properly spent instead of going to the bazillionaire bankers then we'd be out the other side of this recession and on our way to paying it off, like we did in the 90s. That's what I'm talking about when I say lean and efficient. The money needs to go where it is needed, not where the cheaters wait with open gullets. I just wish p…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 04:56 AM
4

Thanks for not listening at all to what I just said. You can't have a lean low budget government and a welfare state at the same time. That depends entirely on how you define "low budget".
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 04:33 AM
5

It doesn't lower her value as a human being, but it certainly lowers her SMV. Men are programed to see promiscuous women as dirty. Women are programed to see promiscuous men as high value. Of course it depends on what you want out of a relationship. If you're after bedpost notches, then sluts are awesome! If you want a woman who will be satisfied with one man for the rest of her life, it seems obvious that a promiscuous woman is going to be a less likely candidate.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 02:49 AM
3

And now you tell me that you're having my baby I'll tell you that I'm happy if you want me to But one step further and my back will break If my best isn't good enough then how can it be good enough for two?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 02:37 AM
6

Of all the things that annoy me on TRP, I think it's the times when guys say something about women that actually applies to all human beings. Admitting our similarities doesn't hurt us in any way, but ignoring them makes us look like arrogant assholes.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 02:35 AM
8

Thank you. I really hate when that phrase is used incorrectly. "All quarters have clowns on their faces." "Strange, mine don't." "Well, the exception proves the rule." Wrong. "Parking is free on Sundays." "Oh, so parking must cost money on the other days of the week!" "Yup. Exception proves the rule." Correct!
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 02:30 AM
6

"Big government" tends to be used to mean bloated, inefficient, and wasteful. Nobody wants big government. Everybody wants a government that is lean and efficient, with only the programs that they deem important. Liberals tend to want social programs such as health care, safety nets, social security and such. Conservatives tend to want military and other protectionist and expansionist programs. Libertarians tend to want only "essential" services, however they define that. Still libertarians are …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 02:24 AM
6

Maybe she was trying to be playful and it just doesn't translate very well through a re-telling of events.
/r/seduction04/07/13 08:13 PM
-3

Strange that it's every person you've met, and nobody that I've ever met. We must be from different realities. I've only ever heard of these fat defenders on the internet. In real life it's always complaints about how hard dieting is, and how hard it is to not procrastinate dieting.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/13 09:37 AM
7

MARYLAND Is that some sort of theme park? Like Disneyland?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 01:25 PM
6

I would agree with that.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/13 01:37 AM
5

Yes, but a woman telling the truth in this situation could easily resort to the same hysterics. Any "guess" about how dramatic they should be getting or not is just that, a guess.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/13 09:45 PM
17

Agreed. It's impossible to tell whether a person is lying or not if they need to believe what they are saying.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/13 05:20 PM
3

I kind of like that idea. "If you don't ask her out, I'm gonna fuck her and then tell you all about it." Depends on how strong their friendship is. I've had friends I could have done that to without ruining our friendship, but it's not common.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 11:00 PM
2

On a related note, I recall reading that nobody would have even noticed the "relationship" between them if he had not used his political power to get her out of trouble for stealing. He should have let her take her lumps for stealing.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/13 10:26 PM
10

Three months uncommitted and no sex? That's not a relationship at all.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/13 07:46 PM
2

Nah, it's the same as chatting up a woman you won't be able to bed that night. Ask if he's interested in joining you for a mutual interest. "Oh you like bowling? I've been looking for someone to hit the lanes with! You interested in a few frames and a few beer sometime?" Since you have kids, that's a good hook, but any mutual interest will probably do. "Oh, you like online gaming? What's your username?" "You're into board games? I've been trying to set up a bi-monthly group, you interested?"
/r/TheRedPill24/06/13 05:48 PM
3

Thread from Kickstarter sub: http://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/comments/1gsrlh/we_were_wrong_the_kickstarter_blog/ I am so pissed about this. These people have no idea what they are talking about.
/r/seduction21/06/13 06:40 PM
6

Mods seem to be killing all these posts. Where are we supposed to complain about this? Is there a kickstarter sub?
/r/seduction21/06/13 06:33 PM
1

At this point, FUCK KICKSTARTER for having no balls! I want my e-book, TofuTofu!
/r/seduction21/06/13 06:30 PM
1

"Offensive material" maybe? If they're horrible prudes. This just baffles me. Article says it glorifies violence??? FUCKING MORONS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. Oh my god, this is such a headdesk moment.
/r/seduction21/06/13 06:25 PM
3

She says she's not into dating at the moment No, she's just not into dating you. Sorry. Move on. Get busy getting with other girls, and maybe after a while she'll realize you're not a beta orbiter and maybe she'll start thinking of you differently and it could happen. Probably not. But the way you are going now is just guaranteeing that at some point you will contact her and she'll suddenly have a boyfriend, and you'll be like "I thought you weren't into dating!" And she'll say "Oh that changed …
/r/seduction19/06/13 08:33 PM
-2

There are 197 people in it for the digital book, including myself. I have no intention of cancelling my pledge no matter what the outcome, but I certainly can't speak for the other 196 people at that level. I think it would be better to offer another chapter on a different subject.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:04 PM
1

This whole conversation has my head spinning. If I am reading her right, she has a lot of basic concepts correct, even if she isn't saying them quite right. 1) The top attractive factor of a man is confidence. If he is confident, conversation will flow easily. She focuses on conversation, but that is a symptom. Essentially, though, she is correct. The number one factor making a 20-something loser undateable is lack of confidence. 2) If you are not a male model, you will have much better luck wit…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 12:10 AM
4

If you have multiple guitars, keep one of those acoustics on Dolly Parton tuning.
/r/seduction13/06/13 07:54 PM
5

I tend to agree with the others that say you should not have opted out of the family reunion. Family is an extension of who she is, so saying you are not interested in her family is pretty much saying that you are not interested in her on a deeper level. My thinking is that it's fine to opt out of big events only if you have a damn good reason. Say, for example, you have serious personality clashes with some of the people who are going to be there. Maybe that would be a decent reason, maybe not.…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 07:04 PM
9

Just like with any other issue, you need to find a counselor that fits your needs. Don't be afraid to shop around. I've heard too many people say "Yeah, I tried counseling, but I didn't like her so I stopped going." What the hell? Find a different one!
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 06:46 PM
1

Slavery for the giver? I enjoy the hell out of spending money. I'd rather give presents than receive them. So I cannot relate to what you are saying at all.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 02:53 PM
1

I been there. Girl didn't give me a second chance. Lesson learned. When they're DTF early, you either do them or lose them. Agree and escalate, agree and escalate, agree and escalate...
/r/seduction11/06/13 10:28 PM
4

Meh. "Whore" is too emotionally charged. Women trade on their sexuality, men throw their money around. What's the difference, really?
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:28 PM
1

Just curious, can you point out the big beta aspects? I'm not familiar with this man.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/13 10:20 PM
1

And if I ever find a girl that I want to be exclusive with, then the lines of communication will be open and equal. The whole thing with PUA techniques is that you can lighten up on them once a real relationship has started. Not that you'll want to abandon them completely... a guy still has to have an attitude of abundance, or he'll start seeming clingy to the girl he is exclusive with. But certainly once you are exclusive with someone, you shouldn't be ignoring them for days at a time. That is …
/r/seduction06/06/13 07:47 PM
0

Seriously, what you are saying is that I shouldn't sleep with this girl tonight, because there is ...maybe... a 1 in 10,000 chance that I might get an STD. That is stupid. I'm going to enjoy my life, not sit in a corner shaking because there are so many dangers in the world. Furthermore, let's look at that "sleeping with strangers" statement. Does it change the risk of catching an STD if I wait a month to get to know someone before sleeping with them? No. Not unless I demand that every one of my…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/13 04:01 PM
2

The possible outcome from sex is death. The possible outcome from crossing the road is death. I already told people to wear condoms. Do you really want to look at the statistics to see how likely it is that you will catch HPV from a stranger and die from cancer? Dollars to donuts it is miniscule, and not worth changing your lifestyle over. Risk is inherent to life. If you deny yourself the pleasures of life based on risk, there is no point to living. Just be smart, take the simple precautions li…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/13 02:59 PM
3

Then live your life like a monk. Safer that way. It's not what I will choose.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/13 02:34 PM
0

For the most part, seduction is about fucking somebody. But that's beside the point. Women are attracted to men with an attitude of abundance. That's the opposite of desperation, which should be obvious to everybody as a bad thing. Responding to a woman's communication attempts on your own schedule is the behavior of somebody who lives in abundance. If a girl cuts me off because I don't reply within a day or two, then good for her. I respect that. If she freaks out and gets depressed, then she's…
/r/seduction06/06/13 02:30 PM
5

You might be missing that one tactic used by PUAs is to keep women interested by not responding to them as much as they want. Women who can keep the "clingy" behavior in check, either naturally or with a little self restraint, are kept in the rotation. Others are cut loose. If you don't want to be with a PUA, then you need to bring up the topic of commitment and see if it's something that the guy is interested in, either in that moment or the near future. That should clear things up, then you ca…
/r/seduction06/06/13 12:29 AM
-2

I didn't "fall for" anything. We didn't get back together, it was just a conversation. I like to remain friends with my exes when possible, and I strive to be the kind of man who lifts up everybody around me. It's one of the tenets of my own personal definition of alpha. So I count it as a personal failure when I fail to support people around me to be the best they can be. Not something to beat myself up about, just something to learn from and do better next time.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 09:47 PM
1

you can be an authentic man or you can be a coward. So true. Every man is going to have to decide what "authentic" means for himself, but I guarantee you it will be difficult, painful, and you'll have to expurgate quite a bit of denial before it is accomplished. I would wager it is a lifetime's worth of effort.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 09:40 PM
0

I agree with you, but each person has to make their own decisions based on their own preferences. I prefer to say "Having a long-term female partner can be rewarding and satisfying, for the man who wants that." The point is that we as a society should stop pushing that as a goal that every single man should have or else be considered a deviant. Everybody has a right to decide for themselves what is right and fulfilling. I have fond memories of my last long term girlfriend, but I had to break it …
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 07:58 PM
5

Wrap your willy, dude. Prevents pregnancies and pretty much all the dangerous STDs. Be smart and cautious with a girl you just met, and if you want to see her long-term, go get tested together. Tell her it's a bonding experience. You'll probably still want to wear a condom anyway because you'll never know if she goes off her birth control. Follow those guidelines, and you're more likely to die in a car crash than from an STD.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 07:51 PM
-3

Manipulative has too much negative connotation. Women are often unhappy with themselves after sleeping with low value men. I once ran into an ex and she just started dumping on me how she got depressed after I broke up with her and she slept with three guys over the course of two weeks or so. She was not happy about what she had done. If I was better with break-ups, I might have been able to encourage her to keep seeking good men that she would be proud of spending time with. She was a good pers…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 07:06 PM
1

So far, I've found that two years pretty much my maximum for committed relationships. I've been hoping to find a woman who will hold my interest for longer, but I think it's about time I accepted that I simply need to move on when that feeling starts to come up. Try to stay friends, but cut free.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 10:27 PM
12

If you want verbal consent at every stage, you won't get it. Simple as that.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/13 09:18 PM
7

I'm fairly sure they already did the MFF. We're both quite adventurous, so decided to try out a threesome, this time with another guy. It's only a six month old relationship. I think he needs to learn the lesson and gtfo.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/13 11:53 PM
1

I've heard some experts say that most of seduction is just getting out of your own way and letting her seduce herself for her. I have not had much success with that method, but when she's hot to trot, that's some advice to remember.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/13 09:05 PM
4

Every field involves physics.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/13 09:03 PM
4

thought you were really cute interesting
/r/seduction24/05/13 06:58 PM
63

Correct answer. Make friends with everybody, or be cock-blocked later.
/r/seduction24/05/13 06:57 PM
16

He saw a repeat.
/r/seduction24/05/13 06:56 PM
7

The collective term for all of the blogs and forums that reject feminism and critique the hypocrisy of telling men to be polite, compassionate gentlemen while rewarding alpha dogs. See: blogs linked in sidebar and the other blogs those link to.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 05:42 PM
23

This actually looks like a troll. You're a completely new badass in two weeks? Sure, sure. Keep it up for a year or two and see how far this mindset lasts while exploring new relationships.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 04:20 PM
18

It was so thick with manosphere buzz words that it was actually painful to read.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 04:15 PM
5

Perfect! It's easier to project confidence when you are on "home turf", so setting up a semi-planned circuit is ideal for making you feel secure and for her to experience newness while you are totally at ease.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/13 10:52 PM
5

As many have said in other threads, having an excellent physique is often more impressive to other men than women. But it plays into the long game of being a leader and having others defer to you naturally, which is definitely something that is enhanced by being in near-peak physical condition.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/13 04:59 AM
34

Are we overexaggerating in this thread? Because for me a good personality can definitely add two points to a woman's sexual appeal for me. It won't turn a fat beast into a ten, but it can certainly turn a seven into a nine. And I've seen enough of my friends fall in love with plain women to know that I'm not the only one.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/13 04:57 AM
6

I was thinking I'd lick my thumb before sticking it in there. Ya know, for conductivity.
/r/seduction21/05/13 04:46 AM
2

Sure, we should try out stuff that makes sense. Borderline stuff I'm going to want second opinions about. I'm not just going to do something weird because some guy on a forum said it works.
/r/seduction21/05/13 04:36 AM
2

I'm not really doubting that it functions, just that girls are ok with random guys stick a thumb in their ear.
/r/seduction20/05/13 10:30 PM
6

I think I need a diagram. How does covering her ear with your thumb help her hear??
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:30 PM
1

I think this is a very good idea for preventing flame wars.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/13 05:00 PM
6

Ditto. I can only have good conversations with women who click with my particular conversational style. Pickup artists who use the above style, which seems to be most of them, are the kind of people who are never at a loss for words. Perhaps that comes through practice, but it is a skill that is necessary nevertheless. I really think more threads need to be about building conversational leadership skills.
/r/seduction15/05/13 11:23 PM
1

Maybe this is yet another reason to add to my list for not getting married. I simply don't trust human beings to be 100% faithful. It's not in our nature to be perfect at anything. All it takes is the right person walking into your life as your marriage is in a slump. I've never cheated on a girlfriend, but if the right person had come along at the right time, who knows? And I'm certainly not going to hold people to some standard that I don't believe is possible. I know too much about human natu…
/r/seduction15/05/13 10:31 PM
4

This advice always assumes that any guy can master conversation of any kind. It's all useless without the verbal skills, and those can't be summed up in a few paragraphs.
/r/seduction15/05/13 07:19 PM
6

I don't want to know. I don't want to know how many men she's slept with, either. I live for the moment, as far as relationships. If we're having fun, if we are comfortable around each other, adding benefits to each other's lives... I'm gonna flush that down the drain because she hooked up with somebody once a year ago? Hell no. If she was out having unprotected sex all the time, then sure, because that affects me right now and my future (STDs). But otherwise, why? People and their fucking egos,…
/r/seduction15/05/13 07:13 PM
48

It's not just that quality women exist. Surely they do. But in these conversations, there always seems to be the guy "realizing" that women are emotionally driven, and that once you learn to play on these emotions you can get them to do anything you want 80% or more of the time. What they fail to acknowledge is that men are exactly the same. In movies, we laud the heroes and their loyalty because deep down we know we might not be as loyal in the same situation, so we admire seeing somebody actua…
/r/seduction15/05/13 06:53 PM
8

And now we're talking like 13-year-olds. Ok.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/13 10:33 PM
7

This isn't a journal, and we're not peer reviewing. You have every right to say "this is not peer reviewed scientific publishable rigor". It is, however, theory.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/13 09:51 PM
2

As long as your social circle is open and not closed, you should be fine by anybody's standards. By "open", I mean that you occasionally meet friends of friends who add fresh opportunities for socializing. If your social circle is closed, it means that none of you ever hang out with anybody new, and will have a hard time growing as individuals or experiencing new and interesting things.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/13 08:46 PM
6

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory Even by the strictest definition of scientific theory, you will find many here who believe that much of their information is substantiated by repeated observation and experiment. Perhaps you doubt the validity of their evidence, but that doesn't change the fact that the word "theory" applies.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/13 08:38 PM
12

I'm a little bit country, and a little bit rock n roll.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/13 08:37 PM
4

I'm not intimidated by social groups. I'm just so very bored by them. But it's true, I've been trying to find a new way to develop friends. It's painful for a mid-life transplant.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/13 08:35 PM
1

And they need the money for... SURVIVAL! Yay! "Survival of the fittest." Nothing to do with evolution... /s
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 04:50 AM
1

Yes, but those are not things that the men are actually giving to the women. They are perhaps potential benefits from being with the man, because of WHO HE IS. I'm not talking about people falling in love willy-nilly. There are purposes and motivations and beliefs underlying it all, such as the potential for future benefit. What I'm talking about is that some people think that in order to win the heart of the person they want, they must give them something. And that's not the case. They must be …
/r/TheRedPill10/05/13 11:06 PM
1

Yes, but what causes them to get some sort of satisfaction? I'm not sure how you can even discuss this topic without touching on some form of evopsych. People have motivations that are caused by needs and beliefs. If you can't identify what those are, you are just going to flounder pointlessly.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/13 03:47 PM
1

How does that explain women falling in love with celebrities, musicians, and serial killers? The materialistic view does have some validity, but it's a shallow view. You can't convince a woman to love you by buying her things. But you can absolutely score chicks while touring with your band and living out of your van. But perhaps I should be generous and interpret "what you can do for them" to include inspiring feelings. But that is circular reasoning: They love you for inspiring feelings of lov…
/r/TheRedPill10/05/13 03:38 PM
2

No matter what feminism says, women are programmed to see men as either sources of genetic material or financial support (it's buried under all the romance stuff). It's completely possible for women to support themselves these days, but the vast majority of women who are capable of hooking up with a guy for financial stability will do so, whether they are bringing home paychecks or not. Men, on the other hand, will be satisfied with regular sex and are not compelled towards long term commitment …
/r/TheRedPill10/05/13 03:21 PM
10

One of the things that I am reminded of a lot lately is that somebody doesn't love you for what you give them, but for what you are. When you change who you are to be with somebody, you destroy the person they wanted. However, I disagree with the idea that getting married is going to destroy your relationship. Only if you allow the commitment to change the person you are. If you are solid in yourself and have a good grip on who you truly are, the marriage won't change a thing, and your wife will…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 11:43 PM
5

I think you are making huge assumptions about the cause of divorce. Yes, the majority of divorce filing is women, but that has been true since back before feminism even took over, all the way back through the 19th century, and that's despite clear evidence that women's standard of living decreases after divorce. It strikes me as more plausible (though I admit I have only my experience of the world to back up my assumptions) that men are more likely to get frustrated with a failing marriage, walk…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 06:13 PM
0

While I agree with several of your points, I'm sick of the repeated factoid that more women file for divorce than men. That has absolutely no bearing on the facts of the cause of divorce. For example, if the husband repeatedly cheats on a woman despite her actually trying to fix the marriage, how can you blame her for filing for divorce? Or what if the man simply walks out and doesn't come back? She'd have to file. Now if there were statistics indicating that more men pushed for marriage counsel…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 05:33 PM
1

You are alpha, the leader. You decide what rewards should be given for compliance, and what punishments should be meted for resistance. You lead the family unit in fitness activities and expectations. You decide what food should be kept in the home. Initiative is a masculine trait. Is that really what you want in your spouse, or are you just using that as an excuse to be lazy and not do anything about the problem yourself?
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 12:23 AM
12

Thank you! These "calorie is a calorie" people are fucking ignorant. And bizarrely hard to talk to.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 12:08 AM
2

It sounds to me like it's a hobby that aligns with a fundamental human drive. For many of us who are not naturally social, we find the process of going out to meet people as painful drudgery, something we must force ourselves to do if we want the rewards of companionship and sex. But if you enjoyed going out and meeting people (and found it fun, rewarding, and stimulating as opposed to draining) then it's very easy to see how somebody might do it multiple times per week. At that point it is not …
/r/TheRedPill06/05/13 06:13 PM
3

Having good hygiene and trying to be your best self around other people isn't seduction. It's fundamental social behavior. If you're a total pig and you're comfortable with that, then you try to use PUA techniques to score women, you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction02/05/13 07:00 PM
8

And girls complain that all this seductions stuff is manipulative and deceitful. What bullshit! Real seduction is completely honest, and more effective that way.
/r/seduction01/05/13 07:54 PM
5

There is only one time when I think it is appropriate to not tell somebody that you cheated on them (male or female), and that is when you immediately end the relationship. There is simply no benefit to anybody to tell them at that point. It only causes pain, and is not constructive. When you cheat, it should be a huge sign that you are not getting what you need from the relationship, and you should move on and re-thing the way you relate to the opposite sex. Even though I never cheated, I felt …
/r/TheRedPill28/04/13 08:33 PM
0

Finally a shit test that I would naturally pass. I hate pierced nipples.
/r/seduction20/04/13 07:41 PM
14

It is only evidence that women think about relationships as much or more than men do. And since women are conditioned to appear passive whereas men are conditioned to be active (in approaching new people to start relationships) it is natural that different questions would be asked. Both lists include "make the other love me or want me", both include make them jealous, both include make them laugh, both include make them come. They're practically identical! Perhaps somebody needs to point out whe…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 07:50 PM
22

It's interesting but it's not proof of anything. I can't stand this kind of hyperbole.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 06:34 PM
3

Prexactly. I kinda feel sorry for these women. They're basically ruining themselves for normal men. This is gonna be the guy they talk about when they're 90 and feeling like their lives were empty without him.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 06:17 PM
9

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSWomen/comments/1cgu42/how_do_you_react_to_womanizers/c9h4ydb Genius indeed. I can't believe this kind of man actually exists, but if he does it's no wonder he has triple digits without trying!
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:10 PM
2

Spot on. Remember her name, then later make a joke out of not remembering it. Sets you apart from the guys who have her name carved on their hearts before they even get to know her. Shows playfulness and outcome independence. "Well, hi again, Teri... Tina... Tiffany!"
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:59 PM
6

He was a total dirtbag! I can't believe you would just write off all the shit he did. You think he's alpha or something? Bullshit. Previous run-ins with the cops? An alpha keeps his head in shit situations, so even if the cops and judge didn't like the look of him, they would have no reason to remember him as an asshole who deserved max sentencing. And getting caught dealing? Getting caught smoking in the park? Fucking moron. I don't give a shit if selling bread to the starving is illegal! Don't…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/13 01:17 AM
2

It's painful to read, mostly because I can't see anything described that men don't also do. Maybe the second half was more about female specific traits, but I couldn't force myself to get there.
/r/askTRP16/04/13 11:25 PM
14

How would you know she's not interested? Ask her? If that's what you were thinking, you are missing the point.
/r/seduction16/04/13 10:23 PM
3

Same thing all the way through sex. Lead the encounter. Make your intentions clear. Do what you want to do. Be gracious and playful if she stops you. Maybe try again later.
/r/seduction16/04/13 10:22 PM
1

Lots of good suggestions here, but you might also want to look into "day game" books like "Day Bang" by RooshV. There are a shit ton of day game books.
/r/seduction15/04/13 11:00 PM
54

I don't use canned material.
/r/seduction15/04/13 10:57 PM
1

Forget about your hand. Just look at her pretty face and smile a little, say hi, nice to meet you, whatever.
/r/seduction15/04/13 10:56 PM
3

Nope. I'm Californian and I was taught the same thing. Shake a guy's hand. For ladies, only shake if they offer first.
/r/seduction15/04/13 10:55 PM
2

I got my rules mixed up. The point is that bacteria doesn't transfer immediately.
/r/seduction15/04/13 04:19 PM
3

Ok.
/r/seduction15/04/13 02:56 PM
12

5-second rule. Doesn't matter if she's looking at you or yawning. Go talk to her.
/r/seduction15/04/13 04:48 AM
1

Ah, that makes sense, thanks!
/r/TheRedPill11/04/13 08:30 PM
1

So he could be saying that after a cut cycle he has no energy and has lost weight. Makes sense. Still, he shouldn't "look like crap" after cutting. He should look awesome! Also, what is "natty" in this context? There's so much jargon to learn... I could be interpreting everything wrong.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/13 03:56 PM
1

Are we talking about steroids? That's the only thing relating to body building that has a cycle that I have heard of.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/13 01:56 PM
2

What is "off cycle"? And why would you look like crap while training?
/r/TheRedPill11/04/13 03:16 AM
-4

Seek therapy.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 04:45 AM
-1

Absolutely. But she hasn't broken the contract yet. And even if she did screw some other guy, why the hell would you want to still see her? Find some other women who haven't turned you into a cuckold.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 04:35 AM
11

If you don't intend to be exclusive, don't make the commitment! If you have game, you don't need to be promising anything to get the pussy. Cheating is for honorless scum. Sorry, but nothing else need be said. You don't respect yourself, and you don't trust anybody else. It's a pathetic way to live.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 01:19 AM
5

Whatever. Use it wrong if you want to. Just makes you look like an idiot.
/r/seduction10/04/13 12:53 AM
8

Real men honor their commitments. If they are exclusive, he should break it off before seeing other women. It's seriously low behavior to cheat on women. Not because of the need to respect them, but the need to respect yourself, and have your word mean something more than empty air.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 12:51 AM
12

"Stay with me honey! I'll be the best doormat ever!"
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 12:49 AM
18

I've been trying to say that, too. People need to be called out on their negativity. Bashing women is not helpful. Men and women are different, and the point of this whole topic is to help both be more happy by offering an explanation as to why gender roles makes sense, right? Not saying women are inferior, but that women don't fulfill male roles ideally, and men don't fulfill female roles ideally. That doesn't have to come off as hatred toward women.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 12:37 AM
15

It's an echo chamber.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 12:19 AM
10

I just found out I'm not self-aware!
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 12:17 AM
6

No. It's not. White knighting is exactly what Chumbaniya said. Riding in on a figurative white horse to try to defend a perceived female from a perceived attack. If I prefer a woman's opinion to a man's, that may be an attempt at appeasement or something like that, but it's not white knighting. I don't understand why people are trying to change the definition of white knighting. I've seen this in multiple places.
/r/seduction09/04/13 11:49 PM
4

I'm not necessarily saying that it should be censored, aside from some vulgar comments that you already seem to be attending to. I'm saying that letting some of the extreme statements go unchallenged or unrefined is a huge invitation for the community to be misunderstood. For example, the post "Women Have No Value Beyond Their Pussies". You certainly engaged people who came on raging against the post, but wouldn't it have been more valuable to the community and visitors to post a mod comment sta…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 10:45 PM
2

You have to look at the full discussion on responsibility and maturity expectations placed differently on the different genders. It's not just about intelligence and ability to reason. It's about what women are expected to contribute to society and what they end up bearing the responsibility for. In the opinion of some people (NOT all of theredpill) women do not bear the brunt of the fallout of their voting decisions, since they are not raised with the expectation to be the primary breadwinners …
/r/MensRights09/04/13 07:48 PM
0

Nailed it. There is a lot of anger and misogyny over in theredpill, so I see what all these people are misunderstanding, but you really captured what I believe is the mature view of these two separate but related issues. The anger and misogyny does not spring from Red Pill Theory, but rather the frustration and humiliation that comes from not understanding Red Pill Theory until after being scarred by numerous painful romantic disasters. If I were in charge of that sub, I would shut down that kin…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 06:48 PM
7

Even if he didn't have the skills to "take charge and inspire her to attraction and lust" (as I am still struggling myself), he should have at least kept dating other girls. That probably would have accomplished the same thing.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 11:39 PM
0

And thus endeth every attempt at reasonable discussion. Fuck ethics, I'm hungry!
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 06:03 PM
0

What circles? It's fairly easy to see that big agro is evil, but I presented an argument against local animal products as well two posts ago. They are both morally wrong, considering that we would absolutely never approve of doing the same thing to humans. So yes, eating animal products is cruel because it is supporting an institution that is fundamentally based on cruelty. I see no circular logic (or any other kind of circles) here. If I don't want it done to me, and they don't want it done to …
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 05:15 PM
1

And that would be fine if it took place in nature. Even though I believe it is unnecessary to eat meat, I don't find it quite as absurd to hunt wild animals if that's the only way you know how to feed yourself, which was the case for many thousands of years. Modern man does not have that excuse. Now we work in cubicles and pay somebody else to be cruel to animals so that we can have a cheeseburger on our lunch breaks, clog up our arteries, and die of heart disease in our late 50s. It's a fucking…
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 06:49 AM
-1

Imagine an alien civilization takes over the planet and corrals all the humans, but gives them a nice comfortable life. For most of the day you can wander around a small zone that vaguely resembles a suburban neighborhood. Most of the men have their testicles chopped off. The women are forced to have babies somewhere in their teens, and they get their mammary glands expressed once or twice a day. And they probably get their babies taken away just after birth. Few if any live to see 40 before the…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/13 06:13 PM
0

You know, there are a lot of health benefits to veganism. Are we as men supposed to not care about our health? Are we supposed to not care about cruelty to animals? This just seems to be knee-jerk caveman mentality. Do I have to be a hunter to be a real man?
/r/TheRedPill06/04/13 05:42 PM
1

I called out women in their early 30s because that's when they start getting desperate. Yes, the right kind of guy (like we aspire to be here) can date girls of all ages, but girls in their early 30s are the ones who are desperate enough to start picking up the single AFCs in their late 30s and early 40s. That's why these desperate women in their 40s can't find men their age. Even average guys can score much younger women than them.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/13 02:01 AM
6

It's a nice biting comment, just not quite right. It's not about moral standards, it's about power. Single men with any kind of social value in their late 30s and 40s are in high demand by women in their early 30s who hit the wall and realized their fuckaround time is over. Ladies in their early 30s can still be pretty darn attractive, so why would any of these high value guys waste time on women their own age? Answer: they don't. These women, like every other woman, need to look to older men, n…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 11:46 PM
0

You know, when you make an edit, you're allowed to actually fix the text that was missing or wrong. Just sayin.
/r/seduction04/04/13 08:11 PM
3

It's ok to be shot down if you can maintain a lighthearted and playful frame. Keep trying. It's ridiculous how many times I've heard stories about how "He asked me out five times before I said yes." Not that "asking a girl out" is what we talk about here, it just goes to the fact that persistence without neediness is an attractive trait.
/r/seduction04/04/13 03:02 PM
13

Lean back and relax. You are probably being too intense and dominating the conversation. If you establish the conversation as "I'm going to talk and you're going to listen" at the beginning, it's very hard to change that. So right from the start, encourage their participation. Ask short, open questions. "Oh, you're a stylist? What's that like?" "You like classic rock? That's cool. What got you into that?" Talk slower. Talk slower. Talk slower. If you can master the art of short bursts of intense…
/r/seduction02/04/13 11:34 PM
1

Teasing is not negging. Sorry, pet peeve.
/r/seduction02/04/13 11:12 PM
4

Wow, I haven't heard of any of these. I'm not as up on my reading as I thought I was, I guess. That last part of your list was a little confusing. Do you mean those sources will teach what you think guys should know about kino, or that they should be learning kino in addition to those sources?
/r/seduction31/03/13 09:47 PM
3

I'm not really into girls with tattoos, but they're so common these days that I almost always mention them early in the conversation. "That's pretty! How far down does it go?" (waggle eyebrows)
/r/seduction29/03/13 11:57 PM
3

I wonder if women find the multi-orgasmic male intriguing or odd.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 08:13 PM
7

I'm trying so hard to be consistent with this frame. Once I heard somebody talk about it this way (I think Tofu over at seddit) it just clicked so much that I knew it was right. Found it: You are on an eternal journey towards greatness. When you meet a beautiful woman, you gladly welcome her to come along for the ride, but you are unwavering on your commitment to your journey. You understand the fundamental truth that women don't want to be the adventure - they want to be taken on an adventure b…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 08:11 PM
-1

A girl I knew had a two year relationship like that. Though they did oral. I never did figure out why they never had sex, but I think it was something like once the frame is established that way, it stayed that way. The next guy she was with she really made an effort to make sex part of the relationship. Yes, the girl made sex a priority, because she saw how failing to do that left her without sex for two years. People learn sometimes.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 08:05 PM
13

Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.
/r/seduction27/03/13 04:39 PM
5

Sounds like Kate kinda liked him from the beginning, but was having pre-relationship jitters. Pretty common if you don't trigger their alpha cravings fully. So she pulled in a friend, and that started a domino effect. There were a couple of really fortunate coincidences going on in this story, but that's exactly the kind of thing we are trying to learn to capitalize on. And OP certainly did.
/r/seduction27/03/13 04:38 PM
8

Yeah, he had me worried that he'd go for the easy score.
/r/seduction27/03/13 04:34 PM
3

Seriously buried the grand finale. I thought it was going to end with a couple phone numbers.
/r/seduction27/03/13 04:33 PM
-1

I think countering their sweeping generalizations with sweeping generalizations of your own is a failing tactic. Point out the logical failures, but don't speak as if every workplace is accepting of females, because some certainly aren't. I see this same problem in so much of the manosphere. It's not all one way or another. It's a mix. It's a prevalence of one thing over the other. It's "most of the time" and "for most people", not "all the time" or "for everybody". Word choice is important if y…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 12:38 AM
0

And it could easily be a crazy girl setting up a "Let's you and him fight" scenario. In which case the meat head will not back down.
/r/seduction26/03/13 04:06 AM
2

This seems to contradict the "Don't interview" rule. I mean, it's ok every once in a while, but if your conversation consists of nothing but you asking her questions, you're sunk. That's where I tend to land. I've asked her three questions in a row, and now we're both staring around the room. Time to eject. I think a useful way to rephrase this might be "A friend of mine asked me this funny question the other day. (Tell her the question.) I think ... (tell her a short version of your answer) Wha…
/r/seduction22/03/13 11:25 PM
3

No, I get what you are saying. But as soon as that girl you "save" from her situation gets comfortable with your reliability, she will start to lose attraction to you. Referring to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, a woman in that position will conflate Safety with Love. That shit doesn't last. Just ask all the guys who are giving half their paychecks to their ex-wives. And even if you don't keep her around long enough for marriage to happen, who wants to go looking for the next needy girl? There are…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/13 07:50 PM
2

I hope you're joking. For your sake. Women are bored by reliability. Women like mystery, thrill, and drama. Even when they hit the wall and realize they need a man to fund their life and pay for their babies, being reliable is one of the things that gives them "permission" to wander. A woman will never tell you in bed about how much your reliability turns her on.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/13 05:39 PM
1

I nod and tell you to hang in there, you'll find someone right for you someday, don't give up hope man. That hit so hard. Damn wasted years of waiting for a mature girl to come along.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/13 12:15 AM
3

Exactly. They're not getting it at home. They can let loose with someone else. So the lesson is, if you don't want your girl to cheat on you, keep her fucking satisfied. Create a safe place for her to let her freak flag fly. Encourage it. Start shit. Sure there are a few girls who really prefer simple boring sex, but you never know where she'll go unless you lead her to interesting places.
/r/seduction19/03/13 11:56 PM
5

Social proof is king. It's like cheating. Sounds like every other guy there was being too try-hard (and needy) and you were relaxed and enjoying the group dynamic. It's the ideal Phase 1 to most any seduction.
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:38 PM
2

I had this exact argument with some tool who said it was unethical to flirt with girls who had boyfriends. I'm not a party to their commitment. Why the hell would it be unethical for me to flirt with her? Of course he did nothing but repeat himself and insult my relationship experience. Whatever.
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:32 PM
8

I have a problem differentiating between "outcome independence" and "not trying at all". It has not been working for me.
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:28 PM
3

This is a question about personality types, not seduction or "Alpha" behavior. You have come across a girl who is an extrovert and is very aware of her own desire to spend time with her complement, which is an introvert. I'm not talking about some shy, beta wimp. I mean the "strong silent type". That's a bit of an exaggeration, probably, but what this type of woman is looking for is a guy who doesn't vomit every thought that crosses his mind into the conversation. This type of girl is not impres…
/r/seduction14/03/13 05:59 PM
2

I could watch that over and over. And I did.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/13 02:22 AM
5

It depends on the person. It was less than a year that I stayed with relatives, but I couldn't live like that once I'd squared away my finances. I was in a situation much like yours, but I was getting depressed (more than usual) because I felt like I was less of a man. I was suffocating. And passing on girls I could have brought home didn't help. I'm all for saving up nest eggs and paying off debt, just monitor your mood and think about what is causing any negativity in your life. Ask yourself i…
/r/TheRedPill10/03/13 01:59 AM
6

Yeah, it's not an opener, it's compliance testing and kino initiation/escalation.
/r/seduction09/03/13 06:46 PM
1

Does the aboriginal community in Canada have strong social expectations for courtship and marriage?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/13 04:18 PM
5

True. It's the checklist mentality that really makes them look shallow.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/13 08:29 PM
3

I would take it as a given that members of the most disadvantaged groups would be the most persistent in maximizing their hypergamy. Just makes sense that if they feel like they have nothing and no hope of making a life for themselves by themselves, then they would be the most eager to get what they could from others.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/13 08:24 PM
14

Why can't people just all accept that women are looking for a man who can better her position? It's one of the oldest stereotypes, it's true for most, and honestly I don't think it's something to be ashamed of. It's natural. The only problem is if she's looking to step up too many levels. That's avarice. But I don't think it's unreasonable for a decent looking girl (assuming that she was thinner back then) to want her guy to have a car. It's the same as me looking for a girl who is in good shape…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/13 04:04 AM
2

No, they get cut because it's a major expense. Jeez, I'm not even going to bother, you're not going to listen.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/13 03:17 AM
2

I have a college degree and I'm working on computers, just I have been for ten years. Please don't treat me like an idiot. You have no clue what you're talking about. And if you think health care has anything to do with the current world economic situation, you are truly ignorant.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 06:56 PM
2

Bullshit. Every developed nation in the world has universal healthcare. It's only the US that ties health insurance to employment, and practically forces employers like Walmart and many, many others to keep people working at "part-time" so that they don't have to pay for it. I had great health care when I was a kid because my parents had traditional full time jobs. As a 40-year old adult, I can count the number of years I've held a traditional full time job on one hand. It SUCKS to be without he…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 05:57 PM
2

You're misunderstanding me. Obamacare is a horrible compromise that makes sure nobody gets what they want except for sound bites like "Universal Coverage". Obamacare is a gift to the health insurance oligarchy, forcing people like me to eat less so that we can pay outrageous monthly fees for shit service. I'm pretty sure you're wrong about medicaid, but I haven't really examined that program too much. I'm not quite that poor. The only real solution is single payer, which would absolutely drive p…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 05:28 PM
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I guess I can see where you are coming from (despite how truly awful that youtube video was). The two ideas parallel in many ways. But I can easily imagine (and in fact there are many examples) women who become leaders of enterprise and are not at all interested in the rise of socialism or communism. They just want equal treatment and opportunity. Now personally I believe that is a self-destructive ideal for the vast majority of women, but I don't see any reason to forbid it. Now on the other ha…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 02:32 AM
4

Let's be realistic. How is a guy supposed to be authentically confident without financial stability?
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 01:56 AM
0

No, it is selfishness, pure and simple. It is women wanting all the benefits of being women as well as the powers and freedoms that go to men. I don't see it especially tied to any fiscal policies at all. While it's true that many women abuse the welfare program and push for benefits for women who want to be independent of men, that's not a philosophical movement. It's just women pushing for benefits for themselves. It's exactly the same as rich conservatives pushing for lower taxes.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 12:44 AM
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...when you really look at how quickly men disregard women of a certain weight, look or attitude not even as inhuman, but invisible, non-participants in the world to be ignored, you realize what a complete psychological hell that is, for all women. I don't know about you guys, but when I'm around a woman who is overweight or unattractive in some other way, I basically treat her like a man. Professional, polite, and easily forgotten. Perhaps what they are really complaining about is that they don…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 12:31 AM
5

I'm a liberal and I believe in gender roles and sexual honesty. Not all liberals are feminists, and not all feminists are liberals.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 12:23 AM
11

Well said. It's amazing how they think they should be able to dictate our tastes. I like my women lean, and I don't apologize for it! Lean women with flat stomachs and a little bit of inward curve at the waist are the best!
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 12:14 AM
2

Your girlfriend must be a sexist dinosaur. /s
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 12:11 AM
3

Most smart phones have a built in recording app. Experiment with yours to make sure it keeps recording after you turn off the screen, and there you go. I know it works with the iphone.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 12:02 AM
4

Well said. These guys are trippin'.
/r/seduction27/02/13 10:51 PM
1

That's going to depend on your successes with other groups. If you are engaging and girls are responding positively everywhere you go, that can hardly be a bad thing. But if you're bouncing around the room and everybody is looking at you like they don't know you, that's going to be noticed, too. On the other hand, there will always be a certain number of women who are more into the strong, silent men. They won't be impressed by social butterflies, even if every other group is worshipping the gro…
/r/seduction25/02/13 10:22 PM
1

Forgive me, but I don't see how that's a win unless the rest of the date was equally bad. At least give the girl a chance to learn where you are coming from with the non-traditional behavior. Remember girls are being brought up programmed, too.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 10:12 PM
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Yes. If you are average or bad looking, you have to (according to some schools of thought) use techniques to display high value (DHVs). If you are already good looking, wearing expensive or fashionable clothes, getting out of an expensive car... these are already high value symbols. If you do anything more to make yourself high value, you can blow yourself out and she will think you're out of her league (or simply a try-hard douche). For really good looking guys, sports stars, actors, musicians,…
/r/seduction25/02/13 07:42 AM
3

Now I'm thinking about hiring a prostitute.
/r/seduction25/02/13 03:09 AM
1

Just change the end or OP's statement to "... relationship is the reward." How far you want to take your game, and in what direction you want to lead your woman is completely up to you. Just because guys around here are looking for sex doesn't mean that these techniques aren't applicable to what you are looking for.
/r/seduction25/02/13 03:07 AM
3

Points 2 and 3 are fairly self-explanatory, but what does "Raise your value" mean in real world terms? Get a better job? Work out more? Don't let her talk down to you?
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 09:52 PM
5

Could somebody maybe give their idea of what the Red Pill advice would be? With all the talk around here about hypergamy, I can't recall seeing any advice on how to combat it. In 'advice column' style, what would you tell him to do?
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 08:32 PM
2

I think it all boils down to this: You're not going to find a place where men are discussing the problems with modern gender expectations without finding a lot of angry, frustrated men. They will be vulgar, they will be spiteful, they will be misogynistic. But they are not talking about vulgarity and spite and misogyny. If you can't find a way to see past that into the heart of the real discussion, then this is not the place to find what you seem to be looking for. Except for speaking directly t…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 08:08 PM
2

I agree. A lot of the men here are coming from a place of anger, frustration, and hurt. I also agree that respect is essential for a happy marriage. It's just not the kind of respect that we see feminists demanding. It's not the respect of an equal. It's the respect of a complimentary piece. It's the acknowledgement that you are not ideally suited for what I do, and I am not ideally suited for what you do. Yin and Yang. Sure there is some shared responsibility. There is some back and forth of du…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 06:43 AM
3

You're absolutely right. The best way we've been able to quantify that kind of thing is with polls, and those really aren't very reliable. But anyway I was being theoretical. More likely women will be attracted to that kind of movement because they are looking for answers as to why they are already unhappy with their relationships, the same way men are attracted to this kind of subreddit because they are unhappy and seeking answers. The real test won't be in whether they find "scientific evidenc…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 05:19 AM
2

Because we are men. We are the ones who are seeing that our gender role is being taken over by women at the behest of feminists. I believe that women are being harmed by it as well; at least, I've seen some compelling arguments that connect the dots between feminism and an increasing number of women who are unhappy in their marriages or lack thereof. But I have not seen a concerted women's movement to reject the damaging aspects of feminism. The closest I've seen is the backlash when a recent fe…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 04:15 AM
2

It's superior only to men. Because men understand it. We live it. It gives us the ability to plan our lives because we know what to emphasize and what to ignore. We are being told by feminists that our scale is nonsense. That we shouldn't use it because it is demeaning to women. Well, no shit it's demeaning to women, it's not meant for judging women on. But feminists have been slowly, methodically warping it for decades to the point that the new scale doesn't make sense any more. It's not useful…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 01:04 AM
1

Human being scale? That is the entire point of this subreddit! There is no human being scale to judge people on. Women are looking for men who are strong, who are leaders, who are providers. Men are looking for women who are curvy and healthy. Those scales don't match! Everything else that is discussed here are the ramifications of those scales being fundamentally incompatible. All of the bitterness and insulting language is a result of men trying to judge women on by the same standards they jud…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 12:02 AM
2

I really think you can respect a woman, and be an asshole so she'll sleep with you, if that's all your after. A man cannot authentically be an asshole to someone he considers an equal. He must perceive himself to be a leader, with superior judgement to those around him, and have at least some disregard for their feelings. This is exactly why so many men are failing so badly in the dating game. We have been raised to respect women as equals, and it just isn't attractive. She's not less valuable a…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/13 08:09 PM
4

I have to agree with her on this point. Way too many posts imply that all women display X behavior trait, when the truth is much more nuanced. Many posts also fail to acknowledge to obvious reciprocal negative traits in men, which makes it appear like we are talking about men as being perfect. I know on an intellectual level that this is not usually intended, but for somebody who has not yet swallowed the pill, it is extremely off-putting.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/13 07:41 PM
1

This is a very interesting discussion because I see both sides and have been struggling with much of what you are talking about. Perhaps this weekend I will take the time to write more of my experience learning about this men's movement. But briefly to this post's point, I think you have to stop looking at these things and saying "that's not true." It's true from the point of view of the man who is saying it, and from the point of view of the men who resonate with it. Obviously women are much mo…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/13 07:01 PM
4

I'm still fairly new to the manosphere, but I've come to the conclusion that a huge part of it is finding explanations for why women have hurt the writer so badly. They take their experiences and generalize them to all women. In many ways it works, but in others it doesn't. I think it serves a very good purpose in that the psychology of a woman who hurts men is acting on impulses that many women have but suppress. And if we can learn to avoid or counteract bad behavior from women, we will be hap…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/13 01:47 AM
10

I was in the same boat at your age. It sucks when it seems like everybody around you is hooking up. But it's totally normal to be awkward in your teens. Some of the most beautiful women in the world will admit that they were totally alone in their teens, so that really says something. Just try not to think about that. Focus on self-improvement, keep reading and thinking, and take small risks occasionally.
/r/seduction21/02/13 11:19 PM
4

Apparently none of those people ever heard the phrase "No means no!" I heard that a lot growing up. We have certainly been taught that rape is bad. But more importantly, like one of those guys said, it shouldn't even need to be singled out because anyone who is brought up to respect other people should know it instinctively. The failure is clearly when their entire role-model system is fucked up from birth, or when people have mental problems and can't control themselves. Neither of these groups…
/r/MensRights21/02/13 12:29 AM
10

Oh my god you've just solved all problems forever! Just teach people to be nice! Why didn't we think of this before?
/r/MensRights21/02/13 12:22 AM
4

I have heard it said as sexual assault. I'm kinda new around here so if you have evidence to the contrary, please share.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 12:21 AM
5

In my opinion, this is a big red flag that they don't assign any value to you. I can specifically remember the times when I actually had deep, thoughtful discussions with women, and it was when they were smitten with me. In the workplace, I suspect if you had some kind of authority (and the alpha behavior to match) you'd get similar treatment. I haven't had any direct experience with that, so I couldn't say for sure.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/13 05:14 PM
1

Actually, I'm referring to women's complaints about how there are so few real men in the world. The ones who see that problem will probably be more accepting of a relationship with a real alpha who won't turn into a doormat for her.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/13 03:46 PM
3

I still think I'm going to get married someday, but this community has given me a lot to think about in terms of how it will function. I used to believe in the equal partnership, but after reading a lot of red pill theory, I can see how that probably won't work. I see the wisdom in the old vows when a woman promises to obey her husband. There can only be one leader in any group, and biology dictates that it will almost always be the man. Of course the wife should be able to contribute to any dis…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/13 05:11 AM
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I had that relationship. I used to pick my girlfriend up after work, and while I drove her home she would bitch about her day. Every day the same damn thing. She didn't give a shit about my advice for how to improve her situations. All the stereotypical male/female talking past each other shit. Then when we got to her place, I'd have to go through the entire ordeal all over again while she talked to her mom. It drove me crazy, but I didn't know any better because my mom did the same thing when s…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/13 05:00 AM
3

Can you pay my bills? Can you pay my telephone bills? Do you pay my automo' bills? If you did then maybe we could chill I don't think you do So, you and me are through
/r/askTRP11/02/13 11:14 PM
21

Geez. Makes me remember the times when a girl said that and I didn't even think of kissing her. Seems so obvious now.
/r/seduction07/02/13 08:01 PM
4

NEXT - Terminate pursuit of a specific woman due to red flags or other signs that she will require more effort than she is worth.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/13 03:38 PM
2

I usually hear AMOG used in the context of a male cockblocker who uses aggressive macho tactics. Is there any other context where that acronym is used?
/r/TheRedPill05/02/13 11:19 PM
7

There's a part of me that REALLY wants to set up hidden cameras (with sound for recording verbal consent) in my apartment for this reason.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/13 09:46 PM
1

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that's true. People's natural tendency is to do what they want and then rationalize it later. It's part of the human condition, not just one of the genders. Polls on infidelity range all over the spectrum (from 22% to over 50% admitting to cheating) but in each poll the men and women are only a few percentage points away from each other. The difference is men will rationalize it as "I couldn't help myself; she meant nothing" whereas women will rationalize it as "I'…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/13 09:27 PM
1

I'm good at that. Then I don't talk to women because I don't give a fuck. Doesn't work for me. At some level I have to care about something or I will be nothing but a passive observer, which is not attractive at all. I just haven't solidified that foundation yet.
/r/seduction04/02/13 09:13 PM
2

This relates to this article on NO MA'AM. I'm not sure if I buy it, but it's an interesting read.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/13 09:09 PM
6

I'm glad you brought this up. It's one of the things that's been bugging me about the manosphere. Articles tend to be written as if men don't do the same thing. The point should always be made that men and women do the same things but for different reasons, and with different justifications and rationalizations afterward. They can also be anticipated and sometimes prevented by different kinds of preemptive action by their partners. I suspect that most authors aren't doing it on purpose, but it g…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/13 09:05 PM
2

I'm good with chill. Working on the confidence/assertive without coming off as desperate. I stall out too much. I can fake my body language, but if I don't talk, it pretty much ruins the effect. Still trying.
/r/seduction04/02/13 08:27 PM
1

If I had more game I could have used her as a pivot. But also if I had more game she wouldn't have ended the relationship in the first place... ugh, I am a mess.
/r/seduction04/02/13 07:57 PM
8

I think the myth that OP is referring to is the idea that it is difficult/impossible to escape the friend zone. I think that idea persists only because so many guys don't know what the fuck they're doing. So in that sense, foolish/beta behavior puts a guy in the friend zone, and wise/alpha behavior gets them out. But it's the man's responsibility either way, women just respond to male behavior. Their conscious decision making is minimal.
/r/seduction04/02/13 06:29 PM
3

I've twice experienced the "he's cool and dating was ok but I wasn't getting what I wanted from it so I moved on, but still want to be friends". Is that the back burner one? Sounds close. It happened to me twice, once where we were in the same social circle so it was better to stay friends, and once where I just stopped returning her calls because I wasn't interested in having lunch with a cute girl that wouldn't let me touch her.
/r/seduction04/02/13 06:22 PM
3

I've found a couple great conversationalists. But they weren't attractive enough to keep me interested long-term. I wonder if that's a common correlation...
/r/TheRedPill02/02/13 01:37 AM
1

While I like a woman who is educated enough to carry on a good conversation, being a doctor carries with it so many other attributes that are very unappealing. Such as being busy and tired all the time, and stressed out. No thanks.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/13 01:34 AM
1

Nope. I've been rebuilding after the recession took everything I built, which admittedly wasn't much. Finally got my own place again and am beginning to get back the confidence and motivation to start my journey toward Alpha. Getting into this community is helping get my mind right, but the effects will probably take a while. I know this year will be a turning point for the better.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/13 10:47 PM
2

Great image of a nursing home with a bunch of 90 year old ladies in belly shirts and tramp stamps with half sleeves.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/13 02:06 AM
2

I agree. I think tattoos on women are a sign that they are "brave" and "tough", which are masculine traits I'm not attracted to. There are a couple tatt'd up girls that I like, but like you said it's despite their tats, not because of them. They're pretty fashionable right now, and I have no doubt that it's a sign of feminism run rampant.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/13 01:58 AM
2

Ok, it'll take a while to digest that second one, but perhaps I should clarify what I said and see if it makes more sense. Leading vs Controlling: In the context of relationships, real men "lead", and scared men "control". Leading means setting expectations, setting goals, setting boundaries, rewarding good behavior and punishing bad behavior. Controlling, to me, means micromanaging, bullying, deceiving, manipulating. I believe that a man who has seen negative effects from his SO due to supplica…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 09:24 PM
0

As long as you haven't yet set the correct tone for the relationship (as the man in the original story hadn't), who's to say whether her behavior will continue to be objectionable? Of course there are times you have to cut your losses and move on. But if you see any of your own actions might have created a poor relationship environment, why not correct your behavior (man up, as it were) and see how she responds? Of course I don't know your story, I'm just going off the original story which it so…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 09:14 PM
1

I don't believe in shaping people. I'd rather create a space where people feel safe to be themselves around me. Girls are into some kinky shit, and that's awesome! But if you let shame permeate your life, that kind of freedom is going to be suppressed.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 07:06 PM
1

If there's something I said that you feel is "blue pill", I'd love to hear it. I've only recently discovered this subreddit and the associated blogs, but most of my convictions seem to be aligned with what I'm reading, and I love it.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 07:04 PM
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Who are you to say that he wouldn't be happy? He stated that he doesn't have a problem with his past. Strong men lead relationships, that's not necessarily "controlling" in a bad way as you imply. He's not happy that she has been a secret hypocrite. But they could get past that and it could turn into a very open, happy, sexually fulfilling relationship. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but I don't see any reason to declare the relationship dead until they've tried to work it out with this new revelat…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 05:29 PM
2

I disagree. I think this would be the time for him (if he knew what he was doing) to take control of the relationship. He knows her past now, and she'll have no way to act like she's better than him anymore.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 05:11 PM
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Technically, it is a technique to cause cognitive dissonance and possibly profit from the subconscious need to have it resolved. It is not, in and of itself, cognitive dissonance.
/r/seduction29/01/13 03:13 AM
0

Are you referring to the only item on the list with no citation? But yes, I could see how subconsciously choosing to improve your opinion of somebody after doing them a favor would relieve any cognitive dissonance you might have. "Why did I do that favor for him? I must like him."
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:38 AM
1

She cooks like my mother,
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:30 AM
5

Bad timing. But if she doesn't believe that a friend kissed your cheek earlier, then she's the crazy jealous type. You dodged a bullet.
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:30 AM
4

Only compliment her actions or aspects of her personality, not her appearance. On the other hand, never ever tell a girl that she has a nice personality. Also, it's ok to compliment her looks while your penis is inside her. But only then.
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:27 AM
1

!
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:21 AM
6

Shit. This pretty much confirms how I blew my chances with a girl once. We were doing pretty well, then she tells me she doesn't feel well one weekend. The next week the relationship was completely flat and never recovered. I should have offered to bring soup and tissues or something.
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:19 AM
3

Umm... that's completely wrong. Cognitive dissonance is the uncomfortable feeling of holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance It's why certain political beliefs have extremely popular radio shows giving their listeners daily reassurance that their nonsense is correct.
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:16 AM
1

I guess I'm a little luckier than you. My "nice guy" personality got me a couple decent relationships in college, but I have been lost in he wilderness since then. I just turned 40. Stumbled on this sub a few weeks ago and finally discovered the manosphere. Even though I still strongly disagree with certain assumptions some writers make (like women are dumb and want to destroy all men), it feels like I've finally discovered a community that can explain what I've been missing all these years. IMH…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/13 10:42 PM
2

... but you don't care about the bar staff? They make stuff you put in your mouth!
/r/seduction20/01/13 03:00 AM
3

The staff's attitude toward you can make or break you. Of course it doesn't matter if it's the first time you are in a bar, but if you plan to keep coming back, make sure they are happy. It doesn't take much, just a tip here and there.
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:58 AM
0

Um, that's assault. They can ask you to leave and call the police if you refuse, but they can't grab you by the neck and throw you out unless they are defending themselves or others against violence. (Specifics will vary by area, I assume.) Maybe bring this up politely if you speak to the GM.
/r/seduction20/01/13 01:54 AM
2

What is frivorce? I did a search, but all I can find is people complaining about women giving up on marriages. Is it frivolous divorce or something like that? Is there a guide to the jargon in this subreddit? It's hard to read around here.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/13 07:32 PM
2

What does the English Premier League have to do with women snapping?
/r/TheRedPill16/01/13 05:30 AM
1

Why would you want to walk in this landmine zone? If she asks, say "I was brought up..." whatever, then change the fucking subject. If she's super religious and you claim to be religious, you'll reinforce her anti-slut behavior. If she sees atheists as evil incarnate and you tell her you're one of them, she'll shut down. If she's not religious, then the subject shouldn't even come up. Keep the topics fun, light, and borderline sexual until she's comfortable enough to be open with real sexual top…
/r/TheRedPill12/01/13 06:28 PM
10

Depends on the touching. There is a variety of ways to touch but it is all very context dependent. Messing up the context is how people become creepy.
/r/seduction12/01/13 06:12 PM
8

I would be busy.
/r/seduction29/12/12 12:37 AM
6

So how often have you gotten a guy's number this way? And how many times have you called? For most girls I believe the answers are "often" and "never". The vast majority of girls want to feel pursued but in control. If you get the number, you are likely going to satisfy the "in control" part but completely kill the feeling of being pursued. Hence, you never end up calling him. This is why people who know how to treat a lady will try not to let you go without setting up another time to see you. O…
/r/seduction29/12/12 12:37 AM
10

I really hope you are joking. For your sake.
/r/seduction27/12/12 08:56 PM
8

It's not even supposed to make a woman feel bad. It's only purpose is to bring down that "I'm too good for you" shield that some beautiful women build up. It says "I'm not here to worship you. You're just a human being like everybody else, and we both know it." It's a frame changer.
/r/seduction27/12/12 08:34 PM
5

Exactly. Negs are only supposed to be for super hot women. The point is to get them off the pedestal that other guys have put them on so that you can communicate like real humans. If you are already communicating with a woman as an equal, then negs aren't even necessary. It's only when she's acting like she's too good for anybody in the room that they should even make an appearance.
/r/seduction27/12/12 08:29 PM
3

Random chick stabbed you for responding positively to her flirtations?
/r/seduction19/12/12 09:43 PM
5

If you don't understand it, don't blame the technology.
/r/seduction14/12/12 08:07 PM
2

I lost a really awesome girl in college because I wouldn't commit. It's one of my big regrets. It's fine if you don't want a committed relationship right now, just remember some girls will kick you to the curb if they don't get relationship escalation. After a few weeks of dating a girl, you've got to seriously ask yourself if you are ok with her suddenly dating some other guy.
/r/seduction09/12/12 09:16 AM
0

Good policy. I find it hard to resist replying. Maybe that's a confidence issue. I should set it as a goal to stop responding to negativity.
/r/seduction08/12/12 01:37 AM
7

Agreed! What good is it to look good if your demeanor turns women off? Much better to look average and have a compelling character.
/r/seduction08/12/12 01:32 AM
1

Have you tried Reddit Enhancement Suite? You can bookmark comments.
/r/seduction04/12/12 10:20 PM
7

For some reason, people have come to equate "asshole" and "abrasive" with "alpha". While the terms are not mutually exclusive, they are an inadequate representation. But that's what stereotypes are all about: narrow definitions of a more deep and broad thing. It is frustrating, especially for those of us who believe that the best type of alpha is not abrasive, but cool and calm. Sadly, assholes are sometimes alpha, and give the whole terminology a bad connotation for many.
/r/seduction04/12/12 12:19 AM
2

Exactly. People throw that word around too much. A gentleman is polite and gracious but not gullible or obsequious.
/r/seduction03/12/12 10:25 PM
6

I was there. To dig yourself out, you have to start establishing your life apart from women, and establishing boundaries that some "new girl" isn't allowed to disrupt. Just be careful that your boundaries are reasonable and in line with the life you want to create for yourself. In essence, respect yourself and your life, and look for women who are interested into fitting into that life. You'll find a lot more women are. (Jeez, I cringe at the memory of myself thinking that I need to find a girl …
/r/seduction03/12/12 10:20 PM
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Fucking giraffes. Somebody ought to pass a law.
/r/seduction28/11/12 04:55 AM
9

I met a girl who tweets a lot. Hot stripper. The other day she tweets that she misses watching her guy play RPG video games. She's not alone. Tons of girls play them, too. It's not 1990 anymore. This generation of chicks grew up with gaming. There is value in that guideline, though. Find out what she is interested in. If you love something that she isn't interested in, be very cautious about how much you talk about it. A little is cool; it's a part of your life after all. But don't ever go on an…
/r/seduction28/11/12 04:54 AM
2

lml
/r/seduction28/11/12 04:47 AM
5

I cringe every time I see a really fit, athletic guy in a suit that is too big. So sad. Such a waste.
/r/seduction28/11/12 04:46 AM
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Be cautious with cologne. It can do more harm than good if used improperly. I get complemented on my smell by women all the time. Why? Because I bathe daily. With shampoo, and soap. And I wear clean clothes. No cologne needed.
/r/seduction28/11/12 04:44 AM
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Exactly. This means I've been reading her wrong. I just stay positive, party mood, energetic, joke about it, and eject. I'd love to be able to stay in and recover, but I am nowhere near that level yet. But at least this way you haven't killed every other possibility in the room. All anybody else would see is somebody laughing and ending a conversation.
/r/seduction24/11/12 11:17 PM
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