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Self reported data of women who don’t want to be viewed as hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:56 PM
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You can always count on the usual white knighters valiantly defending women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:50 PM
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And what exact parts about the RP do you think are wrong? When I see women on here talking about most men or supposed “undesirable” men - to which whom apparently they think most men fall into - they say the most black pill shit ever. But like to call themselves blue pill and still believe in being wined and dined and all the sappy romance stuff. So which is it? Men see this conspire nonsensical flip flopping and you wonder why guys on this sub might be a little wary and unwilling to engage in d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:48 PM
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Nope, no one is entitled to anything remember
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:49 AM
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I don’t think he was taking credit for anything. He was saying there was a very vocal minority in the US and Europe that thought slavery was abhorrent and wanted it banned. A lot of them happened to be white christian men. It’s the same logic ( which i agree with) white men today can’t be held responsible for slavery or take credit for those who died to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:46 AM
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More like lying prince charming whom they continue to chase and they feel they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:42 AM
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Well, in general it depends on the issues each group of people are facing. I’m aware people on this sub are not representative of the average jane and joe, but also the vast majority of men that are choosing not to date just simply silently quit looking because they don’t think it’s worth the trouble anymore. No idea for the women or what their particular gripes are, although I could guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:29 AM
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some men. Most are content with porn and their jobs. They complain about as much as women when they find out chad isn’t going to date her after fucking her for 3 weeks 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:11 AM
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Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:13 AM
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They don’t actually read any linked articles, you should expect that by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:12 AM
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And hence why men clearly no longer think women are worth any sort of effort lol. Most aren’t let’s be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:07 AM
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Juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Most women aren’t even worth dating and more men realize that and don’t care to put effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:06 AM
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Yup, all on them. No possibility women could be at fault too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:05 AM
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Yeah. As they say, juice simply is not worth the squeeze at this point in a lot of cases for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:02 AM
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I really appreciate that a woman is around to say it on this sub. Surprised you haven’t gotten pounced on by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:02 AM
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Plenty of gen z men have like literally no options and one partner in like 25 years of life. Not even a comparison. Women of every generation having dating on tutorial mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:01 AM
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Porn is better than an unsatisfying relationship tbh. The effort it takes to win over a mid woman for most guys just to get mediocre sex is why porn is so popular lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:00 AM
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I love how the women on this sub NEVER respond to well thought out posts like this. Must be a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:47 PM
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Women don’t work on these things either, difference is it’s expected that they don’t have to, since they want to just sit there and wait for men to come to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:13 PM
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Damn, it’s sad you choose to be around such low value men. Any man that puts that much value on women is only going to end up disappointed and resentful. Vast majority of women are not worth a $10,000 plus diamond. Plus a lot of this effort is to get laid, and then once they know they have her they’ll get bored and realize she’s not all that interesting. It’s happened to me and very many guys I know. Just loses its value because most of the value most women have to offer is their pussy, and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:38 AM
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Oh my completely calm PM telling you to stop the biased moderating or i’ll report you for using a slur? Yeah i’ll go ahead and do that now rq too!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:37 AM
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Nope, just told numerous people to report your comments threatening to shoot people so we don’t have to deal with terrible and biased moderating 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:35 AM
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Multiple people have reported you for threatening violence. If we’re lucky your account is gone :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:33 AM
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Just report her to reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:21 AM
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Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:21 AM
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How about you stop abusing your moderator powers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:03 AM
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Nothing, it’s just nonsensical how on this sub women act shocked that the manosphere is growing and keep screeching about how men hate women. More like they are resentful seeing how easy women have it. Really not a hard concept to understand. The have nots have always resented the haves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:56 AM
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Okay. There will never be an organized uprising. Just more men that turn to crime, rope themselves, drop out of society, and get addicted to drugs. There’s no secret that women and the desire to be with a woman and have a family is the motivator of very many men. It’s how we are hardwired. Take away any possibility of that there’s going to be a lot of men that do the above things. Not all of them, but a sizeable minority
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:47 AM
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Completely untrue. Chadopolies are in full effect 😔 For most women it’s chad or bust until they are mid 30s and decide they want stability and a family
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:42 AM
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Yes it is actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:41 AM
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They’ll make their discontent known one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:40 AM
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That will only increase in the coming years unfortunately. Just a natural consequence of how society is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:39 AM
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As more and more struggle to date there will be spill over effects on other aspects of society. It’s all spectrums of men struggling to date, not just “nerds”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:38 AM
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If men were actually uprising against feminism there’s legitimately jack shit you’d be able to do lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:37 AM
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They’re completely fucking delusional it’s funny to see these comments 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:35 AM
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Literally no one is threatening you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:33 AM
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WOW, sound familiar. Men just not trying hard enough to “self improve”. Of course you’re hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:31 AM
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Betas and incels who pedastalize women and stew in their resentment are not men. They have valid complaints but everything they do is cope to avoid facing reality. They are as bad as simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:28 AM
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Such bullshit cope lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:33 PM
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Only women can hop on online dating and pick from prospects of men any time they don’t want to be single or want attention. I mean it’s like stupid how you guys don’t see why many men might be a little bitter how they get to just be alone and have zero dating prospects while women get to play it on tutorial mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:29 PM
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Gen Xers is when they soy kowtowing to women really started tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:27 PM
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Boomers fucked up. Should’ve put the foot down a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:24 PM
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It’s delusional cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:08 PM
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Oh, i mean if you care about generations who eventually will have no knowledge of you sure. Always found it strange people care so much about that when it will not have any ultimate effect on them. But monkey brain takes over i suppose and tells you to procreate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:31 PM
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Uh, no? I don’t want to pay child support and be responsible for kids I don’t want… Having kids is a quick way to ruin your life. You planning on knocking up a bunch of chicks or something? Trust me you’re going to regret having kids, especially if you aren’t married. Marriage and kids are a losing game for men my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:26 PM
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That… doesn’t make any sense lol. I still have sex, actually with different women. Getting married will actually prevent that….
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:23 PM
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Damn, it kind of is over for a lot of dudes. Although as a guy who has been in relationships and had sex, i’m not sure i ever want to get married tbh. Too much to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:05 PM
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First if you’re 28 you’re not gen z, and second college is relatively easier to meet people, but still you see it all the time, people keep coming and going from apps. College is still the place to find and meet people your own age but this generation is far more anti social than any generation prior. Once you’re done with college is really where you’re fucked as the average dude because dating apps aren’t going to work for you and it’s hard to meet new women outside your social circle. Hate to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:03 PM
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Honestly at this point it’s in most men’s best interest to do exactly what you described lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:28 PM
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Yeah it’s called being a chad, and most men are aware the game is different in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:47 PM
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Yeah approaching in person with a girl you don’t know is increasingly being frowned upon. Unless you’re very conventionally attractive of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:46 PM
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Must be nice to have such privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:44 PM
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Youre just a clown trying to tell other dudes how it is for average men IF what you’re saying is true. And again, if you take TRT to build muscle you’re soy. I reached sub 15% bf and 255 bench by busting my ass for years and hard work, not cheating by taking anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:40 PM
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Then are you owed a decent society?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:36 PM
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At least you admit it. Doesn’t look so unreasonable why so many men are not happy with this system now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:22 PM
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Must be nice to have such privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:13 PM
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Swipe data points being white as giving you a decent advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:09 PM
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If this is true you’re actually retarded in that case. I see you spouting your blue pill bullshit on PPD constantly, and if you’re telling me you apparently look like a hollywood star and have 14% body fat please shut the fuck up about how dating for 99% of men goes. Also if you take TRT you’re a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:58 PM
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Yes the disdain that women have for non chads is quite pathetic at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:52 PM
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Wow, the disdain for men on this sub is palpable. No wonder why men are starting to not like women lmao. Improve for yourselves boys, don’t subject yourself to being treated like this by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:39 PM
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Assuming you can pull a top guy that other women also want. I’m not saying you specifically, just women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:37 PM
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Uh, every single guy I know, myself included, doesn’t want a Stacy. We want someone who is looksmatched and takes care of their body (we’re all fit and go to the gym 5 days a week so it’s not unreasonable) and we are compatible. I don’t even waste my time with super attractive girls bc they love validation and attention and i’m not dealing with it. Never had an only fans sub, never will. Most guys aren’t waiting for someone hotter to come along because we don’t have an abundance of options like …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:02 PM
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Nah, most men are fine with their looksmatch. Women are the ones that it’s chad or bust for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:47 PM
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If men are milling themselves because of TRP, it’s because they realize how hopelessly their situation most likely is. I don’t think it’s a reason to kill yourself but I can see why some would want to give in to despair, it’s a depressing reality. Not everything in trp is right, but once you’ve seen some shit with women and how they act, you can never unsee it and even in a relationship it’ll be imprinted that there’s always a possibility of what could happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:46 PM
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Part of the advantage women have is men have an out group bias- like your self. In no circumstance have I seen 80% of the given male population in any sample not grooming themselves and dressed like retards. Same talking point as women, pretty sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:36 PM
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Real life lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:33 PM
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Okay simp boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:32 PM
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It comes from those dating app studies, but more importantly - and depressingly - in everyday IRL interactions, especially in places like bars or activity/friend groups that have both men and women. Self improvement may put you in the minority of the range that is considered “hawt” by women, but most men literally can’t get there. As the saying goes, there’s no gym for your face. It’s a depressing reality, it actually just is kind of fucking over for a lot of the younger generations of men. Dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:15 PM
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Wow you are so off the mark and i’m not even trying to be combative. The state of dating is a sad situation for many men these days. I’m going to leave it here because i’m tired of getting into pointless back and forths on PPD, but dating is a grim prospect for the younger generations of men at this point unless they settle for someone they are barely attracted to well outside of their looksmatch range.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:57 PM
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Yes, it is a privilege. I appreciate that you acknowledge it as such. Now that we have acknowledged that there is unearned privilege in society based on immutable characteristics, we must strive to eliminate it in the name of equality like everything else right? None of you have any right to complain about how dating is compared to men lmao. It’s literally easy mode. I’m not jealous of fat women. Most men who bat under their league are using these women or are going to cheat on them. You sound p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:39 PM
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An overweight woman is not attractive. But thanks for proving why more and more men are getting pissed at women’s ridiculous entitlement. Manosphere grows, more men have disdain for women, less likely to see them as good etc. It’s long over due. There will be obvious effects of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:22 PM
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That’s the reality of very many men. If you’re bottom 60% there’s very little hope as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:20 PM
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There’s small variations that total to about 30% of all men if i had to guess. Women aren’t that varied in their taste. They want chad and won’t settle for anything less, they’ve made that clear
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:47 PM
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Chasing the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:37 PM
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I mean, your own insinuation would mean that a minority of men whom are increasingly getting locked out of the dating market will simply turn to committing crime to get what they want if they have no self control. If they’re going to be locked out of dating and are in no way content i’m guessing the likelihood that they commit a crime goes up significantly. Either way, women are really not worth that much effort. Speaking as someone who has gotten laid plenty of times it’s not that special. Half…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:12 PM
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It’s bevevolent sexism and the fact that the onus is on men to initiate and approach women, which is why so many guys who aren’t chad are desperate for female attention. Women love beveloent sexism. It like I keep saying, women want the good parts of the old way of dating without any of the unfavorable parts. I am in great shape, pretty good job, and average face (5-6). If a not overweight 5-6 doesn’t want her looks match and would rather chad chase and get pumped and dumped i’d rather be alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:59 PM
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No, it’s simpery and sexism actually. Most women are average looking, especially if you take the make up away. And most women are a degree of overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:23 PM
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Except we all know that’s not how it works. It’s far from every woman alive, but it’s obvious women think they deserve top tier men in multiple categories even if they are average themselves. I’m in pretty great shape, more than at least 90% of guys my age range i’d guess, pretty good job (i’m not going to larp like some dudes on here do and pretend i make multiple 6 figures, i’d highly doubt the vast majority of anyone on this sub does) but the key is my face is average (5-6) and while by no me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:52 PM
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Any answer she doesn’t like she’ll immediately remove, this sub is a joke lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:44 AM
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Can you explain why you made a thread when you’ve clearly been trying to extract an answer out of people you’ve already believed? The entire discussion appears to not be in good faith when the only conclusion you seem to be agreeing with is “women better, men scary”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:35 AM
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So sexism, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:32 AM
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Women regardless of who they are only want chad. It could be a guy the same age as you, in decent shape, and average (not ugly in the face but not super handsome) and you would still be insulted. We get it. You think you deserve a chad and when any guy below the 10% you want tries with you, you get insulted and can barely hide your disdain and resentment for them. The only value men have in the eyes of most women is their utility or if they are chad. That’s why women give average gehts within ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:07 PM
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Well seeing as how that’s how things were done for pretty much all of recorded history across very diverse civilizations shows you that clearly leaving things up to women apparently is not a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:22 AM
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Pretty much, there’s a reason why for pretty much all of recorded human history women have not been given free reign over their own sexuality because they inherently make things unstable, they just can’t help themselves, and it does not make for consistent and stable societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:21 AM
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A lot of women are incompetent diversity hires.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:19 AM
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Yeah just so happens now women are only attracted to the same small minority of men. Honestly at this point just let society collapse and nature take its course and leave people to their fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:58 AM
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I don’t even know why you’re arguing with this retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:56 AM
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Full darwin is the strongest men get to reproduce because they just forcibly take what they want. You want to go down that route?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:45 AM
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Actually it’s quite obvious. The internet has laid bare people’s worst behaviors. The internet has simultaneously exposed the worst aspect of women and their disdains for any man that she can’t use or isn’t in the top 20% that she wants, while also fueling her ever increasing delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:44 AM
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I mean really, why should they invest in society if they literally have very little reason to? Not much to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:41 AM
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Okay, let’s apply that to everything else then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:40 AM
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No one gives a fuck about what you think. A system in which more and more men get locked out of the dating market is a system that is going to become unstable, and no amount of your made up “manipulation skills” will make that good for you. I can tell now you’d be vindictive as fuck if you got no romantic/love. You sound extremely bitter yourself. No one is getting institutionalized seeing as you don’t make the rules, not that you ever would seeing as how much of a fucking idiot you seem like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:37 AM
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How realistic is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:09 AM
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Uh, no. Old men have zero chance with younger men. If they fault with young women that’s their own fault for being delusional enough to stand a chance. I’m talking about men who are in the same age range and are relatively looksmatched are still pretty much cooked because these women think they deserve better than their looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:08 AM
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Not precisely, but yes large numbers of men that are effectively shut out of dating doesn’t necessarily lead to stable societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:07 AM
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No inequality anything needs to be fixed then bud. If you happen to be fortunate to have success of COURSE you don’t think it needs to be fixed, you are not most men lmao. Get over yourself lmao. If you want extreme inequality in multiple facets it’s time for society to fail and start over in a more equalized system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:48 AM
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What do you propose specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:46 AM
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That definitely was not the argument. Women’s hypergamy and tendencies to continually chase and get used by men out of their league is so well known at this point it really doesn’t need that much of an explanation lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:44 AM
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Needs to happen at this point tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:43 AM
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It boils down to hypergamy and women’s chad chasing tendencies will ensure dating will never be equal, this is well known at this point, youre the one trying to add complexity to a general rule of thumb. of course exceptions always exist, but the 80/20 rule has been a well known phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:41 AM
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If youre a 6/10 or below no women is going to be sexually excited lmao. Massive cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:39 AM
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If women want to chad chase than the rest of the 90% should just vote to ahem women’s issues and outlaw abortion etc. No love lost, who cares if you’re hurting people who are already delusional and find you undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:46 PM
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Or men should try to harm those who have made their lives measurably worse by locking them out of dating in societally acceptable ways like voting against women issues and voting for banning abortion. Might as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:21 AM
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Nah, women have proved that they are actually harming most men’s ability to find fulfilling relationships. Many are not accepting this status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:19 AM
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Yeah, it really is cancerous for people for are actually involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:04 AM
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why not? fuck other people if you are never going to get what you want out of life because other people are shallow as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:03 AM
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You’ll just be called out in your bullshit then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:35 PM
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Difference is vast majority of men don’t get to pick and choose what they do and don’t like and don’t get to be hypocritical and still be successful in dating. Most Women really are not that much better than most men, it’s just there is a desire disparity. Women hate accountability and acknowledgement of their privileges. That’s why thankfully the pendulum will swing back the other day and culturally enforced monogamy will make a come back, the men dating today won’t be able to benefit from it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:32 PM
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Many Women are increasingly a net negative on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:54 PM
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Cry about it more, just like you tell men when they have issues and voice them on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:36 PM
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Because it’s not true unless you have insane amounts of charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:40 AM
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No, it’s just the experience of very many men that try to date and interact with women. Women’s hypocrisy and shallowness has been out of full display since the internet and they don’t like being perceived this way, so the resort to the incel insult whenever they feel like they aren’t being shown in a good light
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:16 PM
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What society deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:33 PM
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It doesn’t change the fact that you are low value to many men. Men with options do not want a woman who has been ran through for the most part. Sure, there’s always exceptions, but women who give it up to anyone are not marriage material, recreational use only.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:54 PM
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Sorry the dating dynamics are not typically favorable to promiscuous women. I’m not saying they won’t be able to find anyone, just not high quality guys usually. Stg you guys are fine with the majority of saying it is what it is when men complain more and more men are single, but then when the reality that HVM typically will not go for promiscuous women for a long term relationship you all get so miffed. It’s just the reality. Promiscuous women give the majority of men the ick i’d bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:22 PM
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I said a minority of men who have the ability to be promiscuous don’t care, and the rest are mostly soys and betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:13 PM
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Where did I say life hasn’t treated me kindly or said that it was your fault? Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:50 PM
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Sorry, low quality woman. Uber promiscuous women are not worth committing to. Mostly betas and soys will, but a minority of promiscuous men won’t care either I suppose, but usually promiscuous men have more options anyway and won’t go after someone who is ran through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:37 PM
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As is typical is chad chaser. Does your bf know he has chad scraps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:27 PM
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Oh no women have it so bad in dating. Except they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:15 PM
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Men bad woman good. The women on this sub lack any sort of self awareness that they accuse incels of not having and it’s hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:14 PM
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You can think what you want. You said if they were masculine they wouldn’t have these problems. More men will become radicalized and seek to cause problems in a society that does not benefit them. You can rationalize the consequences however you want though, as i know you will. You calling something a fantasy does not change the reality lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:49 PM
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Plenty of men are masculine and don’t meet the hypergamy is standards of women. You can think that men en masse that are locked out of dating will accept the status quo, but many won’t. There won’t be an sort of incel revolution, just political instability, increased crime, rollback of things like abortion and contraceptive regulation because these men aren’t going to vote for things that help women in any way lmao, why would they.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:44 PM
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I know you’d like to believe that and diminish what the suffering of large numbers of men who are pushed out of the dating market due to women’s hypergamy, but you’re honestly stupid if you believe some men won’t lash out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:38 PM
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uhh, not true. Being masculine doesn’t inherently have anything to do with women’s high standards and hypergamy. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:37 PM
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Unfortunately that’s not how humans work. Some will ok kill themselves but some will take it out on those they perceived have cause their situation. Having temporary no romantic prospects and being perpetually single because of women’s chad chasing and hypergamy is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:05 PM
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Men that are perpetually single with no prospects of settling down or starting a family. An excess of single males has been a concern in every society as they tend to be more radical and have the ability to cause more problems/harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:59 PM
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A society that is inherently less politically stable, men far more likely to commit crimes and be socially deviant, men voting in large droves to limit women’s sexual power/voting against women’s interests, men more willing to vote in trumpesque political figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:54 PM
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I don’t think you’d like the consequences of a lot of men who are single and have no prospects for starting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:44 PM
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Good luck with that lol. Women would return to enforced monogamy before that can happen and we all know it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:43 PM
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Except women don’t admit their shallowness and pretend it’s mostly personality. When women have ridiculous standards and only chase a minority of men, don’t be surprised when the majority of men that struggle start to take issue with that and vote against women’s issues and be more likely to be socially deviant. Really not much stake in society if you’re not gonna have a family. Any society where men en masse are excluded from dating isn’t a society that’s worth existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:24 PM
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That’s many men’s personally preferences bc promiscuous women are an ick
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:11 PM
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Because no men should have to settle for chad scraps after she’s had her fun when he couldn’t until his late 20s/early 30s when women decide to stop being hoes and prioritize stability and healthy relationships. men and women aren’t the same, low N counts are valued more in women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:54 PM
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I don’t care, but good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:51 PM
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It’s pretty cringeworthy but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:49 PM
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Yeah that’s kind of sad of him that he feels he needs to stoop that low. But some men will do anything for stable sex. Simp behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:48 PM
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Nah, recreational use only.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:45 PM
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Women who hook up are not wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:30 PM
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Well, at least a solid amount of men who have options aren’t going to settle for hoes or ex hoes, especially not chad scraps. Promiscuous women are a well known ick for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:29 PM
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Absolutely not, exceptions don’t make the rule. Men should never settle for former hoe phase chad scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:28 PM
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Maybe where alcohol is involved. Most women are not going to hook up with men except extremely attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:27 PM
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Slut behavior. Men should never subject themselves to be settled by a chad chaser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:24 PM
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No man should commit to a woman like that, it’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:23 PM
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I sincerely hope i am not like this at 44, embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:21 PM
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Jfc no one cares about your boyfriend lady, EVERY single comment you have to mention it, we get it! Get off reddit and go spend time with him if you feel the need to talk about him every comment you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:19 PM
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Nah, men were far more likely to die. That’s been debunked bed. Keep with the eugenic copes, but the fact is organized society can’t function with mass amounts of disgruntled and perpetually single men. They’ll vote, commit crime, and stop contributing to the economy. A society like that doesn’t deserve to exist :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:22 AM
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Yes, women’s hypergamy and delusional presence to be used by HVM rather than be in stable relationships has been put on full blast for men everywhere to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:44 AM
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Are the extreme minority and exception. Most women are chad chasing and know it, and most choose to turn a blind eye and choose to believe they aren’t, some will turn to these groups to try to get revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:42 AM
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A lot of women do need reality checks to be fair. They’d rather get used by chad than be in healthy relationships, seems pretty self defeating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:34 AM
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Because women even know on some level they chase the same dudes. It’s pathetic and hilarious how this isn’t self evident based on these groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:31 AM
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Increasing numbers of men somehow don’t have luck with women. Women’s hypergamy is completely unchecked and ruining dating for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:26 AM
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Nah, more men wills imply turn to crime and vote to harm women’s causes however they can. No reason why most men should accept the current trends. You guys are delusional if you think large numbers of men who can’t date will just accept that gleefully, a lot of you are really stupid in the way you refuse simple cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:23 AM
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Unfortunately that’s not a stable way for society to function bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:16 AM
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Yeah that’s completely untrue as women have not had the ability to choose the best male based on genes for most of human history. There were very few men available for women to reproduce with in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:14 AM
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If you think young women are in the trenches, you have zero fucking clue about how it’s like to date as a guy so everything you’re saying now has to be taken with a massive grain of salt. Women complain because they can’t get the five star meal, guys complain because they go hungry. Honestly the only consolation is that women get used and have to experience being treated like fleshlight when they chad chase. At least there’s some karma. Also most post wall women aren’t able to lock down a guy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:53 PM
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Culturally enforced monogamy. Controlling women’s hypergamy, restricting their ability to chad chase. There’s a reason why this was always done and we’re seeing the reason why now. Women will actively destroy society because they think they deserve a 10/10 man and won’t settle for anything less, it’s disgusting and if that means “forcing women to be realistic and not delusional” then yes, i am for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:17 PM
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Nah, not at all. The majority of men i know don’t want a hoe or former hoe, cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:07 PM
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No, modern day has increased women’s delusional standards to a point to where they’d rather chad chase than be in a fulfilling relationship with someone who is their looksmatch. Stop the “being forced into a relationship don’t fair bullshit”. If women were so delusional there wouldn’t be forcing anyone into anything. This is why i support enforced monogamy making a come back, and i think it will. I don’t care what you think is fair, i know what isn’t fair to men, it’s the current dating market. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:06 PM
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Nothing about dating dynamics right now is fair or good for men. Why should they not want the massively disadvantaged system they have to partake in if they want to find anyone to change? Women are extremely privileged and advantaged in dating right now, it only makes sense men would want this to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:48 PM
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Young women complain about not being able to lock down chad FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:35 AM
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Actually, karma would be someone being done wrong by a person or group of people. Plenty of men are done wrong by women and dating in general today. It’s not a fair system at all. Thankfully, socially enforced monogamy will make a comeback eventually once the number of single men and declining demographics reach a tipping point. The current system does not make for a stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:12 PM
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Because it’s infuriating because it’s the same exact thing younger women do today. Men want relationships and partners, but when women chad chase and do the same things that leave them burnt and most men out of the dating market, it’s a direct reflection of what these women did as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:10 PM
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No, before women were turned loose and encouraged to by hypergamous, the dating market was not asininely difficult for most men like it is today. Women kept the advantages of the old system and lost the disadvantages, so now most men are at a constant disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:55 PM
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You’re right. The dating market has irrevocably been tilted in women’s favor due to feminism and social media while they get to keep all of the parts of dating that were good for them, like being courted and chased. More and more men are not able to keep up with what women think they deserve in a partner even though these men wouldn’t necessarily even make bad partners, just not tall enough, hot enough, or rich enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:11 PM
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That is laughably not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:30 PM
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Just the fact you equate it to slavery is amusing, but tell yourself whatever you like to continue your misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:52 PM
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I mean it is what it is. Most women would not light themselves on fire having to not be delusional when it comes to dating. I love how you assume any guy you’d marry would be a loser, that says more about you, as even in a society with culturally enforced monogamy, especially in the west, women were not “forced” to marry someone they did not want to marry. Arranged marriages have not been a thing in the west well before feminism in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:34 PM
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I didn’t say a man was owed a wife. But feminism is ultimately self limiting, as men are biologically programmed to seek women and start families. The fact that more and more women are choosing to be single because the vast majority of men can’t meet their delusional standards, and the ones that do won’t commit to them, will create actual problems instead society, and no, it’s not some incel revenge fantasy. There are going to be real consequences for this trend, and really the only answer is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:30 PM
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It’s a hope for justice or karma. I don’t think men are realistically trying to scare anyone, as that won’t work. They are just describing the consequences of the actions women often let refuse to take accountability for. It’s not that surprising that a group of people want justice for something that’s insanely unfair for most of them. Like a lot of things in life, dating is extremely unfair, particularly for most men. But unlike many other things, women get very libertarian when it comes to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:27 PM
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I don’t see why it’s so shocking that people who are severely disadvantaged in certain aspects of life want to believe that a form of karma exists. Like with a lot of things in life, dating is insanely unfair, particularly for your average man. What miffs a lot of us when making things “fair” is the priority of society in so many other areas, particularly when it comes to problems women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:24 PM
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Women still want the benefits of the old way of men courting women but they don’t want the disadvantages it’s comes with. They made an entire movement to get rid of the bad parts, but if you ever say if you want equality you have to get rid of the parts that benefit them too, they’ll just go on about how you hate women and you’ll never attract women with that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:20 PM
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Right, which is going to create actually serious issues down the line. A system like this is not sustainable and won’t make for a stable society. Men are putting in more work than ever to be attractive to women. And because of women’s delusional mindset about what they deserve they get used a few times and then complain about “no good men” and proclaim they’d rather be alone because of the consequences of their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:16 PM
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I guess my comment was a little off topic, because i don’t personally believe most men mock older women or mid 30s single women. They just see some older women complaining about “no good men” and they extrapolate - not with complete accuracy but there’s definitely some truth - that this is in essence what is happening with the women their age. I’m in my mid 20s and to see women make poor choices again and again and again because she can’t seem to screen past how attractive a guy is and gets in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:13 PM
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Yes, it’s clear culturally enforced monogamy is a much better deal for most men, regardless if it’s for women. Men should advocate for what’s best for them, women’s sexual liberation and ability to be hypergamy is in the extreme has come at the cost of men big time. Very, very many men struggle to find a woman to even go on a date with, and no, i’m not talking about basement dwelling incels. What third wave feminism and social media has done to women’s ability to date has done the exact opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:05 PM
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Because the increasing amount of men that are having a ridiculously hard time trying to date because of women’s delusion about what they deserve are getting resentful and bitter. Women do not experience the same thing because something they can get relatively easily doesn’t occupy their mind. Like with most things in life, things that that are much more difficult or harder to get preoccupy more of your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:58 PM
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Or maybe they’re unhappy because they constantly run the bullshit self improvement treadmill women spout only to fail because women have delusional standards? No one said anything about a prospective partner being responsible for them as well. See, women often don’t understand this concept because they can date at any time they choose, so it’s just unfathomable that i guy can be somewhat unhappy bc he has his life in order and what’s a partner but because of ever increasing standards he can’t fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:39 PM
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She’s a terrible human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:58 PM
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For you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:57 PM
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Oh please. More just world nonsense. Never expected a genuine good faith arguement from women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:56 PM
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At what point did i say these guys weren’t functional? Maybe a fulfilling relationship is what they lack? I stg you come on here specifically just to shit on men who have trouble dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:50 PM
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Because maybe having a spouse and a family is a really large part of life and a lot of guys long for that, not just sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:40 PM
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Bingo. Like most of the women on here. Arguing in poor faith. I have very very seldom seen anyone say women should be sex slaves on here. I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with me, i wouldn’t accept some “government mandated wife” like some of you seem to think we would be happy with. Most men don’t want that at all. We want partners who are happy to share their lives with us, and we are just told we aren’t entitled to anything and we should just suck it up and get over it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:40 PM
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It’s funny, whenever I or another guy says that the immediate response is “YOU WANT TO MAKE WOMEN SEX INTO SLAVES” where there was not even the slightest implication of that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:36 PM
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I’ve seen you say numerous things that are border line “shut up incel” on this sub. And no i’m not going to go dig through your comment history to find it. Most of the women on this sub I truly don’t know why they bother coming on here other than because they enjoy seeing men in despair and hopeless about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:35 PM
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Until it comes to dating right? A HUGE, fundamental aspect of finding a partner to share your life with, then it’s go fuck yourself some people are meant to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:34 PM
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Women in this sub routinely mock men who lament not being good looking enough to find a partner or have a relationship or about hard it is for them to find a woman to give them a chance. They’re just gaslit, told all they want is to use women for sex and that they are uncles because they dare complain about how difficult it is dating for men bc they have zero options. It is an unchangeable law of nature. There’s only so much acceptance and therapy that can change the fact that you’re not deemed …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:33 PM
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RP is the result of women telling men most of them are no longer good enough for companionship, relationships, and love. There’s a reason why men flock to that bs. When you’re separate for answers you’ll turn just about anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:28 PM
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There is no waking up and feeling better about being born unlucky with the wrong genetics and being undesirable or not good enough. Stop acting like NOW you care that large portions of men are deemed not good enough for companionship or fulfilling relationships. Not much is going to fix that knowledge, other the RP c*pe, and i suppose a few guys who may just be mentally ill or isolated but aren’t genuinely bad looking but think they must be bc of lack of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:26 PM
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Nah, just like the dating market life isn’t fair right? Nothing needs to be fair. Let’s just extend women logic about dating to all aspects of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:24 PM
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You’re right, physical attraction can’t be controlled and that is why women chase only the top guys. It’s been pretty much proven at this point women keep going for guys with similar sets of characteristics and that are considered conventionally very attractive, as there are most definitely objective beauty standards for both sexes. The only problem is these guys have plenty of options because all of the other women also want them. Settling for an average guy or even slightly above average guy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:45 PM
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Girls partying is usually just chad chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:39 PM
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Nah, we’ll see the new stats but more young men now that ever can’t find relationships and partners because women create chadopolies and chad chase and won’t think of average men at all until she hits her 30s and decides clocks running out, she’s had her fun and now she wants a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:45 PM
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Currently outside, your insults don’t affect me. I’m not an incel by definition but i’m average so i do struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:01 PM
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Nah, it’s because there are chadopolies forming and if you’re not a top man getting anything with women is a lot harder. If you keep downvoting i’m going to report.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:59 PM
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Where did i say looks are the only thing i look for? You just assumed that because we weren’t talking about i or anyone i know prefer in a woman. Kind, loyal, not too promiscuous, not obese, willing to try new things and travel, that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:58 PM
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Nah, it has to do with women’s pickiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:55 PM
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Of older age groups. More young men can’t find relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:47 PM
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Mid 20 something’s trying to find relationships isn’t unreasonable. Most guys can’t go fuck around or have extensive options
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:37 AM
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The majority of young men being single isn’t a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:31 AM
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Hardly, it’s hopeless for most average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:25 AM
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I think the evidence showing 60% of young men are single is proof enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:21 AM
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Average women do not love average men. What a joke. They 100% are looking for average women, just as i am. None of us go for the hottest girl in the room
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:20 AM
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Yes, they are strictly trying to find a looksmatch. They have decent jobs, are genuine, not trying to sleep around, have hobbies, but women aren’t open to getting to know average men. They want to chad chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:15 AM
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More and more young men are without relationships and sex. It’s literally a recipe for disaster. Young women chase the same top men and create chadopolies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:13 AM
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Interesting that women are increasingly spurning this to chad chase. I see average men with decent careers that want fulfilling relationships that are spurned all the time bc they aren’t chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:12 AM
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And this is out of reach for a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:11 AM
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Really? Stop downvoting. And it is. I know so many decent average men with careers and that want a fulfilling relationship and they are constantly overlooked because they are average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:11 AM
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All the more sad that this is out of reach for many men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:09 AM
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We just won’t accept the status quo. It’s absolutely reasonable to be bitter and resentful of a situation in which women always have options and a minority of men can horde all of the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:18 AM
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I disagree. By your definition a lot of guys are incels. A LOT. Pushing for culturally enforced monogamy to be reinstated is the only solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:13 PM
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Most men don’t have these options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:01 PM
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Nah, most men don’t have options for relationships with their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:58 PM
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The vast majority of men don’t have options like women do for dating or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:56 PM
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Incorrect, it is not the vast majority of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:53 PM
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Oh well, men will vote to make their discontent known. If women are going to lock large numbers of men out if sex and relationships we don’t have to happily accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:51 PM
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They can’t lol. They get used by the men they want until they decide they want families then average joe seems to do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:02 PM
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The data indicates more young men now than ever are sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:12 PM
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a minority of men have option, the majority of men have to drop out of dating or get settled for in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:07 PM
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Yes we all know the minority of men women chase can behave however they’d like. That’s the entire point. You don’t seem very blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:01 PM
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This is the thing i don’t get. They always say women are less picky for relationships but how does that work if you can’t even get your foot in the door? Really does not make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:55 PM
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It won’t. Well, maybe it will in some ways. Casuals sex in general will go down as the consequences aren’t as easily dismissed. Most men don’t get casual sex anyway, why would i vote for things that allow women to do even more of what most of us can’t with zero consequences? If most men have to suffer, i don’t see why it shouldn’t be paid forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:19 PM
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Mhm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:16 PM
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Men with no options (average men) rarely pump and dump. not saying it doesn’t happen, but men with more options are far, far more likely to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:16 PM
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I didn’t say you have to condone anything i feel. Women have a much, much easier time finding relationships and companionship and it’s perfectly valid to me to be resentful about it. I’ll do what satisfies my resentment of the situation i’m in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:15 PM
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Nah. Average men don’t get the chance to pump and dump. So many of us want fulfilling relationships but are always over looked. I’ve NEVER gone for a super hot girl but even for average girls, average guys aren’t good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:16 PM
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Women wants chads love but get pumped and dumped, not average joes love
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:57 PM
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Think what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:59 PM
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This is where things stand. If a lot of men have to suffer in the current dating market, i don’t see why we should just shut up and be complacent. Nah, this already isn’t leading to anything good. I just want it to be paid forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:46 PM
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I’m not advocating for anything illegal to be done or women to be forced to be with men they don’t want to be with, i don’t see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:19 PM
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Seek retribution through voting. It will never redistribute casual sex, but there’s a good chance it will stop a lot of it from happening. This is a valid strategy for average men. The current arrangement is quite detrimental so a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:03 PM
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Still won’t happen, but tell yourself what you want 😌 the large number of men who have no prospects and have been pushed out of dating and relationships by women’s unfettered hypergamy won’t accept the status quo. They’ll just vote to harm women’s issues on the ballot. Eventually culturally enforced monogamy will make a comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:58 PM
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You think it’s evil because you’ve never had to face the modern dating market like men do. It’s only natural to do unto others what is not fair to you. I don’t care whether you think that’s evil or not, must be evil that women are so picky and deprive men of the ability to have fulfilling relationships and sex and fulfill one of life’s most basic biological imperatives. No? Then i don’t think what you described is evil either. Life isn’t fair, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:53 PM
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Yes because talking to someone who is white knighting on reddit tells you i’ve never talked to women. Whatever you want to tell yourself bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:12 PM
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More and more men have dropped out of dating because it’s failure after failure. 60% of younger guys are single and a good portion of them gave up or literally can’t find anything. Average man is the new sub 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:30 PM
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It’s obnoxious having “no pill” on my flair? How so exactly? I don’t hate women and most of the guys on here i don’t think hate women. Do i resent the fuck out of my situation? Absolutely. I’m an average guy so i’m never going to be anyone’s pick. I think you somewhat understand but still don’t truly get how it’s like trying to date an an average guy and you mistake that bitterness and resentment at this situation as hatred for women when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:29 PM
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I think you responded to the wrong person mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:06 PM
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“Im locked out of a fundamental aspect of being a human so im going to make my discontent known” You can call it childish if you’d like, it doesn’t change the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:39 PM
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It won’t make things better for them, but why should they care? Pay it forward. If all of these men have no prospects for starting families or sex or relationships than fuck it. The resentment is palpable, and it’s very valid. Humans aren’t entirely logical. These guys don’t have to simply accept the status quo and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:35 PM
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No, not at all. I’d love a strictly monogamous girl that wants me for me, but like many guys that’s pretty much not an option at least for now for me, as the only women willing to consider me are obese (i’m very much in shape so for obvious reasons i value fitness). That’s why i’ve been saying once in your 30s if women are looking to settle men need to be careful about being with women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:32 PM
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They don’t want to fuck them anyway so, not sure how’s that’s relevant. It’s about paying it forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:29 PM
0

Culturally enforced monogamy is not the same as rape. It does matter actually. Hurting women’s causes in any way you can legally is a valid strategy if you are locked out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:27 PM
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Right let’s just ignore the suffering of a large number of men that are locked out of dating because women only want to chase chad until they are in their mid 30s. This why men flock to red pill. Women have the most progressive views until it comes to men and their ability to find partners and start families.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:22 PM
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Liberal and progressive societies birth rates are falling and women’s preference to only aim higher and higher when they have unrestrained sexuality means most men are left out. Again, why exactly would these men be for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:52 PM
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Liberal and progressive societies birth rates are falling and women’s preference to only aim higher and higher when they have unrestrained sexuality means most men are left out. Again, why exactly would these men be for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:52 PM
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So what? Sour grapes is valid. Humans are not devoid of any emotion, and that includes men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:50 PM
3

The more unrestrained women’s sexuality is, the more and more men are left out of casual sex. There’s no reason for the majority of men to support this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:49 PM
3

And why is that bad? If most men are locked out of dating and casual sex why would they vote for any of this? Why would they do what is not in their best interest? Allowing more sexual freedom and unrestricted hypergamy will only make the situation worse for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:48 PM
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I’m surprised a woman is saying this, but based.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:47 PM
3

It’s insane that they want the majority male tax revenue to go to what they want it to and it’s somehow none of our business, can’t make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:44 PM
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You’re a despicable person. This is exactly why more men are hating women lmao. When the gloves come off women always make their disdain for any non chad known.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:42 PM
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Yes they would choose chad so this is clearly not in the bottom 80% of men’s interests. If you ban abortion women might be a little more selective to not just pick fuck boys bc “hawt”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:40 PM
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This is what i’ve been saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:39 PM
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This is hilarious. Why would men vote for things that are favorable to women when they are only losing out from this. So now you want men to go against their own interests. Most men are not going to be okay with women fucking only top 10% guys and they are going to make that discontent known. That’s human nature bud. We don’t have to duly accept that and vote for things that disadvantage use even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:21 PM
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This is the only correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:17 PM
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You men most men are losing the ability to date and have relationships altogether so of course they are going to support culturally enforced monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:17 PM
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Which is why no man outside the top 10% should support this. Casual sex won’t be more freely distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:15 PM
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This is it. All of the arguments of stopping slut shaming and fully embracing women’s sexual liberation will lead to more sex for all is patently a lie and we see that now. All it’s done is crimes chadopolies, so there’s not much reason for most men to support feminism and women’s full unrestrained sexual freedom, it’s hurts them much more than it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:10 PM
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Women will absolutely compete for the most attractive men. The only issue for them is they are not likely to be chosen, so she accepts being a side piece in hopes she can convince him she’s gf material. But chad is only going to hit. So you end up with situations in which a small number of men are taking quite a large number of the available women and leaving more men locked out altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:07 PM
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That’s why this entire post is stupid. Women aren’t going to have more casual sex with average men if they have more sexual freedom, they’re showing this now lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:01 PM
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Most men are not going to get more casual sex regardless of what happens, so there is no disincentive to vote against women’s issues if you are invisible anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:00 PM
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Because right away it’s warning me you’re obnoxious and pretentious and come on here to flaunt. It really is detrimental to any good faith discussion before you type a word and makes it seem like you’re on here to troll on dudes you don’t agree with. Men absolutely have had to use the apps in my experience. The decline of third spaces and lack of organic places to meet people coupled with rampant hypergamy means more younger men are struggling hard to even get a date let alone get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:57 PM
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More young men are struggling now more than ever. I know you refuse to believe that, but it’s not just incels that struggle. Women’s rampant hypergamy has left many men out of sex and dating. Continue to white knight though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:53 PM
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Like banning abortion, regulating contraceptive use, defunding initiatives for women, scrapping DEI programs. Of course anything that isn’t wholesale in favor of women is scary to you, we know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:50 PM
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If it became much more wide spread it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:49 PM
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Sigh, the revolution thing is getting old. I’m not going to bother replying in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:49 PM
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no, other animals don’t attack the rapist because in the wild that’s primarily how males mate. Men do rape, but that’s not primarily how humans mate is is very small compared to the amount of consensual sex had.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:48 PM
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Women prove my own points for me. You’ve never been around me. You think you know me because of my reddit post. Resentment at what others get with little no effort for what you’ve worked hard for is fairly common. Every girl i’ve been with i’ve treated well. I don’t hate women, i’m just aware of the reality of dating for most men and women hate being called out and taking responsibility. By the way, misogyny or terrible attitudes are acceptable if you’re attractive, or you could have the best at…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:26 AM
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Okay… did not counter my point at all, but have a good night i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:02 AM
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And yet most animal species have zero issues reproducing and more often than not don’t kill their offspring so i’m not sure what your point was?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:53 AM
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They overwhelmingly do not, as per the survival of any species ever, as much as i know you wish that were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:38 AM
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There’s no manifesto, it was trial and error for tens of thousands of years, and it got us here, so it must work pretty well 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:31 AM
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Actually, organized societies is pretty uniquely human. Women’s sexuality being controlled was a prominent feature because due to the biological differences between men and women, women would gladly destabilize society for the sake of their own hypergamy and self obsessed natures.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:24 AM
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It’s just women wanting to have their cake and eat it too. These are the same women who think men should gladly accept chad scraps by the time they want families in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:22 AM
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Well i mean, most human societies before now recognized the danger women’s hypergamy and how de stabilizing it was, so enforced monogamy was a thing. Weird how that was prominent feature in just about every organized society in recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:20 AM
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First step is recognizing you’re just another casualty of modern day dating. Women’s standards have never been higher and more and more men are locked out of dating entirely if you don’t meet an arbitrary set of requirements. It’s normal to resent these situations and even women, but that will only hurt you in the end. Instead, focus on your life and career, visit prostitutes if you need to, and when you’re in your 30s, women will be looking to find someone that will be your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:19 AM
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Demographic collapse is inevitable in societies that choose to let women’s hypergamy run rampant, thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:16 AM
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They love using that argument until someone brings up the not so pleasant side of it. “tHaTs HoW eVoLuTiOn InTeNdEd iT, ThAtS wHaT aNiMaLs dO”. Yeah, males in other species don’t care about consent so… 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:10 AM
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I just don’t understand the issue with acknowledging this is what made for stable societies and is a direct result of evolution for both men and women. I’ve been saying societies that fully embrace women’s sexual freedom are ultimately self limiting. They’ll just be outbreed by cultures that restrict or more authoritarian measures will be taken to enforce monogamy to stop compete population collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:06 AM
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Like i said, most societies knew the inherent issue with women and their sexuality. Human nature requires compromise in order for societies to function well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:02 AM
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They don’t “all move here”. But it won’t matter, societies that fully embrace women’s hypergamy and promiscuity are ultimately self limiting, it has little to do with what is right or wrong. Most men get the raw end of the deal with how things are now, is that right? No, but it doesn’t really matter, that’s just how things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:55 AM
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Good for you, doesn’t change the reality and has little to do with what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:51 AM
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In most societies women’s sexuality was repressed for precisely the reason it makes for unstable societies when women are let loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:34 AM
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Societies in which women’s hypergamy runs rampant are ultimately self limiting. By their own choices the sexual liberation of women is limited to a few generations of women and then back to enforced monogamy, spurred by necessity due to population collapse or overtaken by conservative cultures that outbreed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:33 AM
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Because men are biologically programmed to seek out mates and reproduce. It’s the same reason why dating in modern day society is lopsided. Men do the chasing and pursuing, women just have to sit there and wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:28 AM
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Women are very shallow, lesson learned my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:27 AM
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Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:24 AM
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Yes, and more men will vote for things that then bring back enforced monogamy. It’s human nature to resent what others get unearned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:24 AM
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Younger men aren’t going to be complacent when they have no prospects for dating or sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:23 AM
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Women’s sexual liberation is ultimately self limiting and societies that’s go this route are out breed by more conservative cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:22 AM
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Women’s sexuality has always been controlled because organized societies realized that societies will de stabilize in any other situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:21 AM
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Do you want to do that comparison? Do you know male animals also just force themselves on females as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:19 AM
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Women will do anything to avoid accountability and responsibility for their actions, that much has been made abundantly clear. Just look how they say they’d rather society collapse than be with an average guy. Funny thing is, if law and order break down, well… that will be immeasurably worse for them for obvious reasons…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:18 AM
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Nah it’s fair game. Women who consensually have sex are responsible for their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:17 AM
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Pumped and dumped because she chad chases?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:16 AM
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Ehhh, not gonna happen, but you can pretend that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:16 AM
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Thankfully cultures with enforced monogamy outbreed societies where women’s hypergamy runs unchecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:15 AM
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Legalize prostitution and most men will quickly decide the juice of trying to date and dealing with women isn’t worthy the squeeze. This is women’s greatest fear, it’ll take away their sexual monopoly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:15 AM
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The fact that you think large numbers of men will just accept the status quo as dating is right now is telling. And no, i’m not threatening anything. Vote to ban abortion, vote to regulate contraception, vote to defund women’s initiatives, vote to scrap DEI programs. The way things are going is not tolerable for a large number of men, thankfully feminism is self limiting and enforced monogamy will make a come back or the current society will simply be overtaken by something else due to men’s opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:14 AM
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They’ll never understand how bad shit would get if men stopped doing stuff for them. Sadly it’ll never happen, but if more men started demanding functional relationships/families for their contributions to society, the current dating market as we know it would be radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:10 AM
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See how long society stays stable like this for long. For the same reason men want/desire women more than vice versa, larger numbers of young men who have no prospects for dating/relationships won’t stay complacent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:09 AM
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That’s not what you said. You said men who aren’t conventionally very attractive (most men” are bitter and desperate, basically insinuating they are losers. It’s okay, more men are starting to understand this is how women react to men calling them out and how they think of most men. Pretty deplorable. The fact that you call any man that isn’t your type bitter and desperate is telling. More evidence the juice is not worth the squeeze in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:59 PM
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The stats are grim because the situation in dating is grim for a lot of guys. More men use the apps because they have to, women are extremely privileged in dating and in many aspects in society currently. Also i can already tell you’re extremely pretentious with that flair, so i don’t expect much out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:52 PM
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Just another example of women shitting on men not in the top 20% attractiveness. Just world fallacy. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:33 PM
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Ehh not really, since most men aren’t chosen for this “fun” chad harems then right off the bat you’re excluding most men. Men don’t want women that were a booty call because she refused to go after guys on her own level until her 30s. I’d rather be single or just use prostitutes than be with a woman like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:52 PM
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Same comment essentially that you just sent me on the other thread. Yes she’s the scraps of the other dudes she tried to get commitment from but was delusional shooting out of her league with. Honestly not much as most guys aren’t chosen for sex. I’ll say it until the day i die, never settle for these ladies gentleman. Get sex from them as they try to convince you to settle down with them and bounce unless she didn’t have a hoe phase. There’s No problem with any dude choosing not to commit to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:43 PM
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Holy projection. No, most guys do in fact want families. They don’t want families with women who have been ran through in her 20’s, and that’s a valid preference. We get, women only “naturally” want a small number of very attractive men. And once a woman decides to get real and understands that most of those men are out of her league guys just should be happy they are getting settled for? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:39 PM
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No arguement, got it. Dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:41 PM
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Source? Nah, even men who know nothing of the red pill seems like are more aware of what’s going on. Men are just becoming aware of the reality and seeking answers on their own. Women are the biggest feeder to andrew tate and other manosphere grifters, all one has to do is try to dare an an average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:41 PM
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Women haven’t “fled” from me as much as you want that to be true. I treat the women i’m with fairly well. Exposing the truth about how dating works for me =! hating women. I know you conflate the two because you’re so reluctant any criticism or responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:40 PM
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Oh it has everything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:38 PM
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If exposing the reality is misogyny that’s quite a stretch from the original definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:38 PM
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That’s funny, i’m talking to several women right now, they somehow haven’t magically spotted this indiscernible trait you say i have. Could it be a. that i don’t talk to them like this and/or b. they are actually decent women whose company i enjoy and they enjoy mine? Just world at it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:37 PM
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The vast majority of men are not abusive. Most men would not abuse their pregnant partners. Women will overlook blatant red flags if a guy is very attractive, we know this now, no point in gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:35 PM
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Actually, the vast majority of men, incel or not, are not violent and would not physically harm a woman in any way sooo, nice try on that one. Red pill wouldn’t exist if large numbers of men were unsuccessful because women are chad chasing. Women date violent and misogynistic men all the time. The difference is “hawt” and tingles. You know the usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:34 PM
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I’m not an incel. I know you guys love to shame men’s sexuality and their lack of success with women based on perceived criticism but it’s mostly unfounded sadly for you. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:30 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:26 PM
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I’m not an incel, nice try loser. Just because you hate yourself because you’re a loser doesn’t mean you have to project onto others weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:25 PM
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Actually your experiences do, because your experiences shape your ideology. The red pill is getting popular because of the way women act and how dating is for men, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:24 PM
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Ohhh okay, where are the “i didn’t know he was abusive until after and it was hard to leave then” arguements then huh? It’s almost like it has nothing to do with attitude and much more so on something else, maybe… how attractive said man is? shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:23 PM
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Why does it matter if they aren’t successful in the first place? Women and their ever increasing standards are the ones pushing men towards the red pill, hate to break it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:22 PM
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Just because you hated your self and figured the answer was full soy mode doesn’t really disprove what the OP is saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:21 PM
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Right, it’s misogyny for men to expose the truth about how women really act and their ridiculous hypocrisy and delusional standards. No, that’s actually called not sitting down and accepting a situation that is highly unfavorable to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:19 PM
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They are more likely to justifiably vent frustrations online rather than do it in person? Of course they are, no one talks like this IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:18 PM
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Yup, just more privilege you have as a woman. No i don’t go after a woman with no options. I find women with whom i can see myself having a future with and i get along with. If i find out she’s talking to a bunch of other men, i drop her. I don’t have time to play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:16 PM
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They’d never actually be able to tell and it’s so amusing watching them pretend they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:06 PM
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They never will. Anything that digs at the privilege most women have in modern dating they won’t tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:05 PM
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No, they wouldn’t get them anyway. Women go after looks, not attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:45 PM
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Sure, sounds like you’re just going after men that have options. Laughably predictable. More just world nonsense, shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:06 PM
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Like i said, go be used as a cum dumpster if that’s gratifying. All the more reason this isn’t a game men should be invested in at all. Thankfully things will turn around for futures generations of men. Until then, prostitutes, porn, and going overseas. It’ll be amusing to watch the girls that decide they are done chad chasing and want to settle, these men they try to settle with should extract all of the sexual favors they can when this woman is trying convince them to settle, that way it’s fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:05 PM
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Just world nonsense. You equate unattractive with bad. Stop trying to excuse your shallow chad chasing, it’s getting boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:03 PM
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Hey, if women want to get used as cum dumpsters by attractive men, by all means go for it. All the more reason juice is not worth the squeeze, many women are truly reprehensible in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:40 PM
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Trust me, men are waking up to the fact that women aren’t worth the trouble as well. Prostitutes, going overseas, and porn will fill the gaps until enforced monogamy eventually has to make a comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:39 PM
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Oh yes it has. The whole trope of women being the “fairer sex”. Women being treated with chivalry? It’s all nonsense. Women deserve nothing more than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:36 PM
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Wow, what a leap of logic. So now i’m making “threats” because i said men should make their discontent known through politically legitimate means i.e. not illegal means? Do you understand how much you just twisted my argument so you could have a point? Shouldn’t expect anything less from the women on this sub i suppose, they just love the “HES THREATENING AN INCEL REVOLUTION” line where absolutely no one said that at all. Also, the vast, vast majority of incel are not a physical threat to women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:31 PM
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Oh i’ve talked to plenty of women. Too many. That is part of the reason why I became deeply red pilled. Women are actually fairly disgusting when it comes to the most desirable men in what they’re willing to do and the way they’ll degrade themselves, it’s sad, but thankfully the illusion that women are the fairer and more moral sex is rapidly deteriorating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:23 PM
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Struggling with friendships and dating. Social media is making it abundantly clear what women want, and it has nothing to with the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:17 PM
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And this is why the increasing number of men who women essentially lock out of dating need to make their discontent known through legitimate means. Vote against women’s issues, ally with evangelicals on abortion and contraceptives. If they have to suffer being locked out of relationships and sex because delusional chad chasing women, inflicting that suffering back through politically legitimate means is a valid line of logic. Go ahead and keep gambling on throwing sex at chad, if that makes you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:16 PM
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It’s just more just world bullshit. Every time i see it i can’t help but chuckle. The very same argument goes out the window when they choose poorly and claim they couldn’t tell “he was an abuser”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:13 PM
1

Men who aren’t conventionally very attractive tend to appreciate women they get into relationships more because they don’t have unlimited options, nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:12 PM
1

Absolutely not. Hire prostitutes or go over seas. If a women is trying to lock a guy down for stability and financial reasons, use her for sex and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:09 PM
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Right, the men they genuinely want don’t want most women either for anything but sex. Feminism has led to female delusion and entitlement. The result is that these women (and consequently men) will constantly be under financial strain due to the costs of living alone until they expect a guy to settle for chad scraps. Nothing about that sounds appealing to me or many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:08 PM
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Great so we’re in agreement. If the majority of men won’t be able to experience lust they should A. Stop trying to date B. Get rich or C. go overseas. That’s literally the options. What a sad state of affairs for men. Thankfully feminism is self limiting and demographic decline means enforced monogamy will make a comeback. At least future generations of men won’t have to face these bleak prospects of delusional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:07 PM
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The minority that can improve to become chad should, the majority who can’t should forget about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:04 PM
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Men couldn’t simply choose any woman they wanted. What a load of shit. They’d have to choose a woman that was more or less in a similar socio-economic background as him and there were few women to choose from, not every guy could get the “most attractive girl”. Women chad chasing will have its own set of political consequences as more and more men are simply going to make their discontent known by voting. You guys always saying prefer men they are “physically attracted to” = chad chasing and sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:51 PM
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Women’s preference for men that behave poorly and use them for sex because they are very attractive perpetuates bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:48 PM
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They wouldn’t. It’s the same bullshit the spout time and time again. “No women will want you because your attitude is HORRIBLE, they’ll be able to tell”. Meanwhile “Uhh he didn’t act like that when i first got with him, i wasn’t able to tell he was abusive.” The only thing it really has to do with is how “hawt” the guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:30 PM
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Actually it’s just made it clear women’s disdain for anyone but the best of looking men. The fact that men are becoming aware of that reality and either choosing to drop out of dating or trying to level up so they can have women throw themselves at them is proof enough that the red pill is only articulating the frustration that many young men have experienced trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:27 PM
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Exactly, it’s not an ideology, it’s an observation. There’s always going to be grifters in and sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:09 PM
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Voting against women’s issues, voting to ban abortion, allying with conservative evangelicals to regulate contraception, defunding women’s programs, ending economic subsidies for women and DEI initiatives. And before you say, if these men had no prospect of having families of their own, why shouldn’t they use the little power they have to show discontent? You’d be bitter as well. Sure life isn’t fair, doesn’t mean they just have to accept it gleefully and not make their discontent known.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:06 PM
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Yup. Women are the biggest proponents of toxic masculinity whether they believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:05 PM
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Do you realize why men go to this stuff in the first place. More and more younger men are struggling to find relationships because women’s standards just keep going up, and up, and up. They want only very conventionally attractive men or high status men. Social media and dating apps have made it even worse. These women weren’t “turned on” to these guys in the first place and that’s why they went to RP and manischere to figure out how to get what they want. Women are extremely shallow and chad ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:03 PM
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Hasn’t been what i’ve observed. Younger men are struggling more than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:59 PM
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Which happens to be the same traits and characteristics that composes what only the very physically attractive men compose, which the vast majority of men are not, if you don’t want to use percentages then. Again, if women’s choices are going to exclude a majority of men from prospects of starting families or having relationships because they’d rather chase the same men most women want rather than be in functional relationships with non chads, there’s going to be political and economic consequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:54 PM
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Yes women wanting to reap the benefits of being seen as the fairer sex and more moral while that patently not being true. More men being left out of the dating market will have political and economic consequences. It’s not some incel revolution or whatever bullshit narrative you guys think is implied, when a large group of people in society are discontent largely because of the choices of another group, why would they want what’s best for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:53 PM
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A one trick pony for pointing out how men most men are getting an absolutely raw deal out of trying to date today? If that’s the case then that’s fine. We’re not even talking about sex, even dating most men apparently aren’t good enough. More men need to wake up and walk away from it and use their frustration when it comes time to vote to make their discontent known. I mean, they should do what’s in their best interests, and it’s clearly not what women want that’s in their best interests. Oh and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:47 PM
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youre superficial. Women’s delusion never fails. Women will single because they chad chase, men will be single because they have zero options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:11 PM
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Women are the biggest proponents of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:59 PM
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No actually it’s pretty insulting actually. Get to get settled for by chad scraps, what an honor 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:50 PM
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Okay if dating is not going to be equal and only going to get worse for most guys, then guys best strategy without a doubt is to just vote against any and all women’s issues/problems in society and avoid doing anything that benefits women. The most ardent social liberal turns full darwin when it comes to dating, interesting to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:28 PM
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Actually it’s the fact that women are delusional enough to convince themselves that 90% of men are somehow unattractive, and it’s become clear looks are pretty much one of like 3 things women only care about. I’m in the gym 5 days a week as well, but i’m not obviously self obsessed like you and your fiancée are. Sounds like a really healthy relationship built on fear of losing attraction, i’m sure that’ll work in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:24 PM
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Women aren’t attracted to most men so there’s nothing to compromise on. They’d rather chad chase than find healthy relationships with non top tier looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:55 PM
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Yes we know only the most attractive men inspires sexual attraction in women like you. Most women actually. I don’t know why most of the dudes on this sub can’t accept that in either try to make in that top percent or forget about women and find other things in life besides being a slave to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:40 PM
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Yes the problem comes in when women apparently convince themselves 90% of guys aren’t attractive enough for them. Women in this sub tell on themselves after just getting done rage typing how looks aren’t everything. They most definitely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:39 PM
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COULDNT BE THAT, IMPOSSIBLE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:28 PM
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I think more and more men will choose this route rather than deal with the horseshit that comes with trying to date as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:09 PM
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Their own experiences maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:58 PM
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It’s just incredibly rare to see a girl on here with this level of introspection and self awareness is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:14 PM
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Bingo. It always boils down to this, don’t know why it’s so hard to understand. And women find the vast majority of guys not particularly attractive if not plain ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:03 PM
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Hold on, did you take 3 showers today and spend the little free time you have in the gym bro? Did you even find a job making over six figures bro? No? Are you even trying bro??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:02 PM
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Did you read what I wrote? It doesn’t matter if their standards are to the moon if they are going to be compelled into enforced monogamy again instead of chad chasing. Contrary to what women here think, most women would in fact accept it because women are very susceptible to societal pressure. They have in the past, and future generations most likely will too if it ends up going that way. Individualism and this asinine solipsism is why the west will fail and nations and cultures that aren’t so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:29 PM
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Because the truth is most women aren’t attracted to medium ugly men, and most women will hold out for a very attractive man despite being average herself. She’ll gladly use sex to try to convince him to be with her and then complain about it when it doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:32 AM
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How long of a process is that really though? And which do you think is more likely? I personally think that western society won’t collapse but we will see a more authoritarian turn to curb the excesses of western society and capitalism that contribute directly to its downfall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:39 PM
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Unchecked hypergamy caused by the decline of enforced monogamy and the supercharging of women’s ego via dating apps locking the majority of men out of dating could have consequences as a mass number of disenfranchised young men tend to cause issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:37 PM
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Women won’t care until it’s their brothers or sons who swallow a 9mm round because they feel and have been told they’re worthless because they are excluded from something that is very fundamental for any animal and has been throughout all of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:11 PM
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Except when a figure comes along to channel that rage and suffering onto others instead of themselves. Unfortunately a lot of men would be prone to it since they are effectively locked out of dating and one of life’s fundamental aspects is out of reach for them. A lot of them don’t have much to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:10 PM
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Nah, social media is just doing a good job laying bare what guys have been facing in their everyday life trying to date for decades now. As much they try, women can’t control their hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:58 PM
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We know, only chad will make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:50 PM
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There most likely will be political ramifications of a lot of disillusioned younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:01 PM
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They can vote, and advocate for themselves. Societies regardless of their economic systems have failed when there are an excess of men with no prospect of creating families, inevitably they are going to turn their attention on something else like politics extremism. They might become outright hostile to things that favor women in society and increasingly vote to ban abortion and any way they can chip away at women’s privilege in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:57 PM
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Do you think there will be political consequences of these younger men being locked out of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:01 PM
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Just remember, when they talk about guys being commitment phobic and assholes, they’re talking about chad, not the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:00 PM
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When enforced monogamy goes out the window, women have shown they’d rather be single or share top men rather than be with men in the bottom 60%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:59 PM
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I disagree, most men would like a relationship but modern dating and women’s delusion about what they should have in a man locks these men out of dating anyone close to their own attraction level
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:38 AM
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Oh no they are most definitely available to women, just not a good relationship with chad, which is what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:17 PM
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I have and there’s a reason why it’s science fiction/fantasy. The amount of women who go straight to handmaidens tale in hysteria is so disingenuous. Younger men are struggling dating like no generation has previously. More younger men are single now more than ever before. I know you guys like to point to late 30s millennials and say men are doing fine but it’s just not relevant to the current 20 something’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:13 PM
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Women chad chasing and being delusional on an individual level does not affect me or any other man. On a macro scale it most definitely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:26 PM
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Yes people tend to focus on things that have a direct impact on them. Because on a micro level it doesn’t, on a macro level it does. Logic, i know. I don’t care about whether you personally get used or your standards at all, im talking on a macro level, not an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:23 PM
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Women’s hypergamy is unmatched gentlemen. Take a scroll through her comments on this thread. Women can have whatever standards they want, just don’t bitch when you get used bc you’re delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:13 PM
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Oh most of us have accepted this reality which is why primarily women don’t have respect because it’s assumed she operates off of a double standard. No reason to respect someone who perpetuates a system that disadvantages you. It’ll be interesting to see politically how the consequence of women’s hypergamy and the demise of enforced monogamy plays out. I’m assuming more men will start to align with the conservative christians and vote to curb women’s ability to freely get abortions and no fault …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 10:02 PM
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Even if that’s true logically people vote with their emotions. Any perceived slight to their power they are going to vote against.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:48 PM
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Women will tolerate different things from different men. Most men know this now so we don’t have to fall for the bullshit “i demand respect” spiel. Chad doesn’t have to respect anyone and will get sex on tap. Women do this to themselves tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:33 PM
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I mean no one is taking away your autonomy. But why should most men care if they are in an unfavorable position to begin with. The current system is not working for most men. Society has always been founded on enforced monogamy, now we’re seeing western civilizations slowly die out when it’s not. It’s alright, it’ll just be replaced with cultures that abhor western values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:31 PM
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Disappointed that men don’t like a society/system where most of them are at a disadvantage? Interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:19 PM
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Good luck with that. Women aren’t going to willingly vote for things that disadvantage them. As much as they deny it they know society massively favors them right now, they are going to act against their own best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:18 PM
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I would say it’s pretty rare for a women to be considered that undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:19 PM
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Right? It’s like some impulse fueled by the just world fallacy. It never fails when it comes to the women on this sub. I would just recommend if you see any woman on here blaming lonely men’s failure at dating on them being misogynist, to just not engage. No good faith argument is going to come from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:32 PM
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Most of the women here claim to be married or in relationships, if they feel the need to come here to talk down to men whom “obviously deserve it” because they have legitimate grievances with how dating works these days, clearly they need to touch grass as much as they tell incels to lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:28 PM
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That’s exactly what I mean. If barely any men at all are down bad and struggling because of how the dating market is for guys now why is this shit getting THIS popular? People are stupid, but not that stupid. If they had zero experiences relating to what RP influencers say they wouldn’t be eating it up like a kid in a candy store. And yeah, it is amusing to me how it supposedly bothers them so much if it’s just “losers” they wouldn’t want anyway buying into this. I think the answer is simple, pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:45 AM
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I am actually kind of confused by this. It’s like in some arguements BPers and women here say “you don’t need red pill for that, it’s literally SO obvious, RP is a grift and just labeled something that everyone already knew”, while in other arguements it’s “RP is so stupid and misogynist, none of the arguements makes sense and it’s just losers trying to justify why they aren’t getting laid”. If it’s already obvious and everyone knows the truth, how are RP arguements stupid exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:55 PM
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I think this is probably true for a lot of people tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:49 PM
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I think this is probably true for a lot of people tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:49 PM
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Both the men and women here seem to avoid engaging with comments that make them look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:29 PM
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When I said “go after”, i meant actively pursuing. Not just passively sending signals it’s fine to approach. If they are going to risk rejection and step out do their comfort zone, it typically is only going to be for men they deem exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:28 PM
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Well the ones going online to complain, yeah, what else do you expect? I’m talking about guys IRL that don’t even use reddit. I’ve been at that point several times myself where i’d rather not even bother looking for a girlfriend because of women’s very high standards/what they think they deserve in a guy, and not dealing with the headache and just beating off. I’d be open to a relationship now, but i’m definitely not going out of my way to look. That would be just be setting myself up for disapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:26 PM
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A lot of the drugs right now that can low libido can have sometimes significant side effects. More so they’re just choosing to use porn and their right hand lol. While good sex with a partner is always going to be better, porn can fulfill any one of a number of fantasies a man wants to see, and with AI creating new realistic videos from scratch, it will probably only go further done this road. Increasing options for men to satisfy their own sexual urges without the headache of having an actual g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:14 PM
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I’m seeing increasing numbers of men just getting up and retreating into their own lives as well. More men it seems just don’t think the high standards and chase is worth it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:24 PM
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Depends. It definitely equaled the dating playing field quite a bit. Now that men’s primary advantage is gone while women kept theirs (being the selector/courtee), dating is just significantly harder for a lot of men. Women normally have numerous options at their fingertips at any given time. Hard to compete with a lot of other men at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:13 PM
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How did you not know this…? They’re only going to risk rejection when they don’t normally have to for someone truly exceptional. I would think that would be common sense, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:12 PM
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I have my suspicions about the whole arguing that most people still get married and aren’t single that often gets repeated here. I think millennials are the last generation that is going to get married en masse, although there was a noticeable decline in marriage rates even for them compared to boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:10 PM
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Absolutely brutal example to average men how actually being desired. Some of the shit on this sub is incel fuel, regardless of how true it may or may not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:09 PM
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Most women do admittedly overwhelmingly benefit from this system. It seems they want certain parts of the old way of doing things to stay (the parts that benefit them mostly) while stripping away the advantages that men had in this system. OLD and social media has magnified this disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:46 PM
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Let’s assume the result is a negative outcome for most men then. Seeing as how women’s traditional advantages have stayed in place and men’s have been eliminated for the sake of equality, are large numbers of men who now can’t find dates supposed to just stop trying, or work themselves hard trying to become the best man they can and not settle for the first woman that comes along? I’m in favor of the latter, although I will admit dating is increasingly difficult today for the majority of men. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:45 PM
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I do not see that at all. I rarely see women go after any men other than the very high status or conventionally attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:42 PM
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So what do you believe the answer is for the increasing number of men who struggle due to women’s innate advantage from the older system dating still proving them advantages while men’s advantage (enforced monogamy, societal pressure) being stripped?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:56 PM
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I agree. Why open yourself up to rejection when you don’t have to? And since women rarely approach other than guys that already seem to have quite a few options, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:03 PM
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Yeah but how exactly even in your best case scenario of men finding common ground does this dynamic reverse? Men are way too horny and desperate for relationship, but even if they weren’t, how do you fix the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:43 AM
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I mean, I see average dudes that are actively miffed at the dating market and becoming aware of terms like “shit test” and “Looksmaxx” purely through shit like tiktok and social media. One thing is certain, more men by far struggle now than they did before because of the reasons I already listed out. Unfortunately, a by product of a system in which overwhelmingly favors women (mostly, very attractive men won’t have this problem of course) AND social media is that there will be outlets for this f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:07 AM
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This system doesn’t work for most men, that at least, seems to be true. I’m not sure how much can be done about it though really, other than improving yourself as an individual and becoming the best version of yourself you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:56 AM
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I mean without a doubt women want to keep some aspects of the traditional dating methodology dating back hundreds of years while stripping out the things that gave men advantages. I guess that’s just human nature at the end of the day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:55 AM
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It’s sad it’s done to this for many men. I think you’re just in a dark place. I don’t think this sub is a good place for you with where you’re at mentally brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:54 AM
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I think your argument is a little disingenuous. There is no doubt the social skill decline is on both ends of the spectrum. See, from your perspective as a woman, you think you had to give cues for a man to come talk to, but that’s all you did. Men still have to initiate, we never know when a girl is truly into us or not until we approach to be 100% sure. And i’m sorry, I know women on here say suck it up, but repeated rejections, really, really suck. They can be harmful for your self image and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:52 AM
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See, to be completely honest with you, I have to disagree. I think that applies to desirable men. Desirable men do have a degree of power. Women want desirable men, but I think the number of men that are actually considered desirable based on a number of factors (Not just looks but that plays a huge role) is actually pretty small. Women can afford to be passive and pick from guys that come to her, not to mention she can do even better if she takes initiative and tries to place herself in situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:38 AM
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I appreciate that sentiment. I really, really do. It’s nice to see a woman on here actually wish success for guys. I think my issue comes in with your first point that, myself, and many other guys see dudes struggling every single day that are not terminally online, don’t know what pills are, and objectively aren’t bad looking dudes really. Dating really has become THAT much more difficult for men. It’s a combination of factors like I said in another post of enforced monogamy ending (eroding men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:35 AM
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Enforced monogamy essentially. Note: I’m not saying any of those should be brought back, unlike some men on this sub. I don’t think women’s autonomy is inherently a bad thing at all. With that being said, there was a huge societal pressure on women to settle down and marry by their late 20’s not mentioning the financial dependence women were subject to to essentially force them to be less picky/only be with guys she thought were not going to fuck around and leave her as soon as he got what he wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:23 AM
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It kind of is a chase though because men are always initiating and trying to convince women he’s worth her time, while he gets the “privilege” of paying for the first few dates. Like i said in an above comment, modern dating is essentially the old ways of dating just with the advantageous parts to men stripped out with the advantageous parts to women left in. That is why dating is considerably difficult inherently for many men today. It completely lopsided the dating dynamic in women’s favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:03 AM
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Rather, what he should have said is this is the sort of the old dating system women like. It stripped out the advantages men had and left the advantages women had intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:00 AM
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I mean why would most men not want this to change. I mean the more women talk on this thread about how advantageous this system is for them and how they never had problems with attractive men coming to them, the more it’s clear dating is broken for most men. I mean even reading the comments on some of these threads I can see why more men fall into these spiteful echo chamber resentment holes, it essentially is confirming what they are saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:58 AM
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This is bleak as fuck, but probably not entirely untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:56 AM
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I mean… what exact laws? And do you really think the largest voting bloc (women) are going to vote for this? Maybe some will, but most definitely won’t. And cut off taxpayer funding to what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:04 AM
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I mean we can split hairs over what exactly systemic means, i wasn’t speaking in the legal sense obviously. But something that is ingrained in the culture is something general prevalent at the societal level, that’s what I mean by systemic. If a guy is good looking enough. I think i that’s wherein the problem lies. The vast majority of men are not that attractive to women. Like on top of that the fact that a lot of these very attractive guys can get away with a LOT when it comes to how they trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:58 PM
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Well I was saying more that maybe they are blue pilled because it is much easier for them than most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:54 PM
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That is where we disagree. Men disadvantages in dating are multi faceted and systemic in some ways, thought people like Black Pillers take it too far. Men are expected to approach, pay for first dates, court, and escalate, all while taking into account the woman’s comfort and feelings. Men have to actively put themselves out there and with enforced monogamy no longer a thing, there is a very very real and desperate chase among many men, whereas women just essentially wait to have men approach he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:49 PM
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Some are more openly hostile to women than others. I do think the excessive demonization of the manosphere in general is a bit ridiculous just because someone like Andrew Tate gets popular. I don’t understand how women don’t understand that when power dynamics favor one group of over the other in society, even if it’s only regarding one issue (albeit one that is very important to most men), there’s going to inevitably outlets for that frustration, just like all groups who were disadvantaged at o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:11 PM
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What if he didn’t know you were tired unhappy etc.? If he is doing lots of foreplay and oral or you participating as well or does he just have to do all of the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:15 PM
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I do find it amusing that almost all of the women on this sub are blue pilled and in relationships. As well all know correlation != causation, but it does seem to be a strong trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:53 PM
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I think that’s the key that a lot of people here don’t bring up often enough. I have almost never heard of someone going Red pill unless they had specific problems before hand. So while not all RPers are bitter or resentful, a lot of them are because of personally experience, not necessarily because of the red pill. It’s usually the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:52 PM
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Interesting. So you would pretend for his sake if you loved him? Also would thoughtful or romantic gestures make you more likely to get sexually aroused towards him/ make you want to have sex more? Just curious on some of the views here of the women when it comes to sex and relationships if you’re willing to humor me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:49 PM
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Just like everything else in life, people are far more likely to have their world views shaped by their experiences. Whether there is a correlation between men that are more unsuccessful with women from the get go and turn to red pill for answers is definitely an interesting question. Generally, if all someone has ever known is a are experiences they correlate with more blue pill views. they are going to think red pillers are toxic and hateful, and vice versa. Everyone lives in their own head, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:46 PM
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So you’re okay with there not being a high sexual attraction component in your relationship? Aside from looks is there anything a man can do to make you lust over him? Both in the context of a relationship and just a guy you’re not with but getting to know. Edit: Also would you fake this lust or desire to make him feel better? Especially if he makes you happy in other areas of your relationship and you value the relationship and like the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:40 PM
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So let’s say if a guy did some of the household for you and planned a romantic dinner after you got off work and you had no knowledge of it prior, would that be a direct like make you lustful/more likely to want to have sex with him? Note that i’m not saying that the sex is a reward in any way, just you’d be more turned on or more likely to be reactive to that in a sexual way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:49 PM
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Right, do you not agree that can go both ways even guys do have a higher sex drive? Women can also let themselves go? What exactly inspires lust from a woman when it comes to a guy she’s already with? Edit: I’m just going to reply to your other comment here so we can keep it just one comment at a time, I don’t know why that bother me, sorry 😂 Anyway, so a guy not bringing what to the table or not keeping up with what responsibilities is a turn off to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:40 PM
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You don’t think attractiveness is as important to women as it is to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:31 PM
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Right at which point the relationship is better off just ending. It would be wrong to trick a guy into thinking you are bc he buys you stuff and having sex with him occasionally to get him placated. I guess what i’m not sure is what exactly what cause the lack of lust/ what would cause you to lust over your guy more if you are at least somewhat attracted to him? Like where would this lack of lust come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:26 PM
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Well i’ve personally always strove to satisfy the woman i’m with in bed. Her pleasure is at the forefront of my mind along with mine when having sex. I was more implying that she was not ousting over the guy she was with as she didn’t not find him super attractive. And i’m sorry, I’m not sure I understand. What do you mean that proves your point? I just said I would be kind of hurt that a woman I love or care about has been faking lust and haven’t told me. If there’s something I can do to fix th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:15 PM
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Would you be okay with being with a guy you weren’t really that lustful over? How would that relationship dynamic work?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:13 PM
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I guess my question is while it would most definitely hurt me to know the girl i’m with is faking lust… is she doing so out of a genuine desire to please me and she wants me to be happy because I make her happy in other aspects of her life and she wants to be with me? And the other question is has she shown genuine, raw lust towards other men where she wanted to have sex whenever possible? That would definitely hurt to know regardless if she’s faking it because she loves or cares about me, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:12 PM
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I will admit there does seem to be a bit of a double standard from the women on this sub where they’re never responsible for marriage/dating issues and when a man isn’t doing something it’s his fault, but women a woman does something, there’s a good chance it’s also the man’s fault. However, there’s plenty of guys on here too that talk about women not taking accountability when they clearly are not doing so either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:08 PM
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You didn’t think a guy would be disappointed the woman he’s with is faking lust though? I feel like it would mess with me if I found out personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:18 PM
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Holy shit this is cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:12 PM
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I mean really what can be done. People are going to go after the people they desire whether it’s a good choice or not. The potential harm/risks to their decisions is up for every individual to decide. I agree however that making patterns of bad decisions and then blaming it on society/other people and complaining about it like it’s not your own fault shows a stark lack of accountability/mental maturity regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:04 PM
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I mean while I agree, that’s a very simplistic argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:01 PM
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I agree genetics aren’t completely irrelevant. Can you list some examples of dysgenic traits that are getting passed down to future generations because of modern society out of the same of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:56 PM
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I think in modern day society the fact that love isn’t fair upsets a lot of people because of how comfortable life has gotten in general, but life has never been fair. Yeah it sucks, but there’s not a whole lot any one individual can do to make life fair for everyone. Just work to improve themselves to get what they need/make the best life they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:55 PM
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Agree, technology getting more and more advanced simply makes the eugenics argument largely irrelevant. Also, it seems like in general women are far more likely to just be attractive regardless of how attractive her parents were, so i’m not sure women would look that much worse/undesirable in a society that goes either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:50 PM
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