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Or just don't be "dead weight?" If you bring love, appreciation, respect, caring, companionship, freindship, joy to a relationship, that isn't "dead weight." In fact, it is awesome and beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:28 PM
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So, not much for love and you're not a romantic, I take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:26 PM
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Yes, thankyou for pointing out my typo. That was the point I was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:29 PM
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And marriage * /=/ marriage. Furthermore, the cost and planning of a wedding are traditionally born almost entirely by the bride's familiy (except for the tuxedo, ring, and rehearsal dinner). EDIT: *I meant "wedding"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:58 PM
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Brilliant, outside the box, thinking!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:54 PM
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Why are you caring what they say in the first place? It's about whether you are strong and can handle responsibility. Stop with the self-abasement; why are you letting them decide for you? You just don't want the responsibility bruh. 'Bruh," I'm a veteran and a woman. I did take responsibility and serve. I would not do so today with the current SOW and CinC because they don't want women, don't respect women, and don't promote women. Although, if a draft were necessary and it was Trump eligible f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:37 PM
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In regards to the draft applying only to men - This is always such an odd argument, particularly now with the current culture being groomed by the SOW (US). Men who are pro military or pro masculine image, do not want women in the military let alone equal numbers of women serving. I would argue that, at least when TFR is crashing, women's equivalent service to a nation is having babies. It requires a similar amount of time (at a minimum) as a draft requirement of 18 months, is also a physical ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:55 PM
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I have, too. That said, though, I am amazed at how many men (in the US) are pro circucision and women who aren't. The issue of conscription is all over the place for men and partially dependent on political views, though not entirely. (love your flair)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:45 PM
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I choose to do that despite knowing better otherwise because these people on here are crazy. I have to match their energy. I have to take a side because I know absolutely nothing will change their minds. This is a wild statement. "I have to be crazy because other people (on the internet!) are crazy even though it changes nothing and just makes everybody crazier." Maybe, be your own person you can be proud of and stop being a reactionary who adds only negative energy to the world? But, upvote for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:12 PM
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You: "No, I won't" In response to a suggestion to not phrase negative attritbutes as an "all women" statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:06 AM
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By treating women as all one (bad) thing rather than acknowledging their humanity and therefore individuality - that some are "good" and some are "bad" and most bop back and forth (just like men!) - you perpetuate the impressions that men are "all" the bad thing. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:56 AM
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Women Sometimes Do Bad and Anti-Social Things towards Men and Boys. This is a Radical Idea to Women Here. Change it to "Some Women" and I doubt you'd even get a comment because, no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:24 AM
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No, I do not see the "constant" claims. I do, howver, see the occassional claims. Reddit pushes this sub to all kinds of people because conflict generates interest but you have to learn to take that in stride and realize wackos will pass through.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:23 AM
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Ironically, I read this post while listening to Raye's song "Where the hell is my husband," I'm sure it depends on the woman but an awful lot of them are thinking about men and why they can't find one who suits them regularly. That said, thinking about men and wanting a relationship is not necessarily driven by a tngle and restlessness in the genital area and a need to get laid (maybe because women's sex toys are more effective and useful then men's so, they can get the high quality "O" regularl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:30 PM
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That would depend on the feminist, but why limit it to feminist? Not everyone who hates you is necessarily a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:03 AM
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That was the "but" stuff. Also, I, too, am confused by the rash of "bisexuals" who have never experienced or felt desire for anyone of the same sex. I presume it is a vision of self more aspirational then actual. Or, perhaps, just a statement that they will not be held to labels and constraints in future choices by, paradoxically adopting a label.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:34 PM
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Nah. You have needs, too. Address them safely and with joy. You'll be a better partner to any worthy future husband type.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:31 PM
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Agree. Looking back on it, grad school is a great time to be married and have a family. This doesn't really apply to most people though. Also agreed, we have all, somehow, been conditioned to expect something closer to perfection in a relationship than was commonly expected in the past. That is partly because nobody has to settle and partner up before their shelf life expires, which was the understanding and the horrible pressure of past generations. I would argue it is also because we have smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:29 PM
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The discussion was about an objection to the term "high quality." I find it pedantic (the objection). Yes, the term is potentially insulting but the idea behind it is reality. Most of us, you included, would not want to date most of the opposite sex and for defensible reasons. If people were wired to just be a decent match with anyone from the opposite sex, would we have "pair bonding" and would long term relationships exist or would it just be endless revolving "love the one your with?" We are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:22 PM
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Precious little except that the "feminists" probably aren't desperate for dick. Given all the manipulations and algorithmic encouragement to stir up hate and dissatisfaction that are pushing a gender war, I'm really not that surprised so many men hate women - if you can't have what you want, so much easier to despise it and feel vindicated. What is bizarre is not the hate but the hate layered with the extreme desire for what is hated. That should be maddening and self correcting at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:07 PM
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It's a fact, women have egos just as fragile as men and probably more self doubt. "Girl Boss" persona's are mostly performative and/or aspirational, "fake it till you make it." And, sometimes, they are just knowingly or tellingly naively ironic. All those songs and comments about "I can buy myself flowers" etc are all too often bravado covering up hurt. It's not like they don't want someone special who loves them and will buy them flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:01 PM
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I don't know about you but, I and what I could see of most fellow students, were not sufficiently "grown up" and ready and able to choose and do well at a life time commitment before 21. In fact, it wasn't till 27 that I had grown past the natural and healthy narcissism of youth sufficiently to routinely be capable of putting the needs and wants of others or even truly noticing such things, before my own. There are many reasons why men and women are getting married later than they did in grandma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:59 PM
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I agree yet, if you were a woman, would you want to date most of the men you have seen/know? There are conflicting messages being drummed. Women should not "settle" and should be more discerning. But that seems more like what is meant is "women should settle for my average or below self but be deluded into thinking I'm a prize."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:53 PM
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Every study shows that currently men desire women more than women desire men. Right now, it is extremely fashionable to say so but my experience is that all but the most traumatized women or those who are lesbians want a man even if it isn't convenient timing wise and wonder "where are they and why can't I find one?" Similarly, these men who desire women "more" seem mostly to be desiring sex, not actual real people and, in fact, sure sound like they actively despise and loathe women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:50 PM
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Apparently, regular and enthusiastic sex but also be "low n-count." Also, must make sammich and pick up dirty laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:01 PM
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This sub is strong evidence many men hate and resent women bitterly. (But would sure love some pussy, plz.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:59 PM
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A power imbalance that gets in the way of a mature and abiding adult relationship where each feels valued and allowed to grow and allowed to have needful autonomy is indeed, harmful, even when both parties think it is what they want. It is like parent and child if the child is never encouraged and allowed to be their own person and to grow. The child may like to be pampered and have things done for them foreven but it is not good for them. Does this mean every aspect of differential power is "ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:42 PM
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They certainly are vulnerable to exploitation. But the entire point of parents and children is to raise them up safely beyond the point of the inherent power imbalance. When two adults enter into a romantic and sexual long term relatinship with a notable power imbalance, there is always the issue of why one stays, if one can leave, is one taken advantage of, wil either tire of that dynamic, etc. It is not a parent with a child who will grow and mature. WIll the dominant even want the other to gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:37 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. If that kind of dynamic isn't something that you can function in, would you not struggle to function in the even more complex dynamic of long term close relationship with sex and romance added?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:51 PM
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Good in that a romantic or sexual connection is not the same as friendship or companionship. That said, OP's suggestion has some application for "male loneliness" unless that is just code for "not having sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:50 PM
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And you just might if your operative, I mean partner, is a Russian or CIA sex spy!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:35 PM
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And not just a representatively average woman of the culture they are being extrapolated to, either. I'm going to embrace this logic today and indulge in a lot of "russian sex spy does/is 'X'" and that proves all women _____________. How about "Russian sex spy outsmarts her mark and that proves all women are smarter than all men."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:32 PM
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Using the example of a "russian sex spy" as a definer of all women is, objectively, hilarious. OP should take baby steps and try out "all russian" or "all spys" before jumping to the big dumb conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:28 PM
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At the least, consider getting a dog. In addition to love, affection and companionship, you get exercise and a good pup can be a chick magnet, as well as demonstrate your ability to take care of yourself and another and commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:09 PM
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Yes, I agree that being loved is generally better than not being loved for most people. But the comparison is more like having money. Poverty sucks. Life without a comfortable amount of money actively sucks, every day and is worse than a life without financial worries and stress. Other people have money and seeing that exacerbates the frustration of not having it. Ah, well. One makes do and does one's best, regardless, and even if one cannot find a way to achieve romantic partnership or financia…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:01 PM
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I doubt he can say because he is too busy focusing on his asserted need and how overwheliming it is. One does wonder, if some woman who "needs" to feel a man desperately needs her in order to feel loved should find him and recognize that match, would that "fix" and fulfill him? Or would he discover he doesn't actually like women or the particular woman he is with and feel disappointed and cheated because he placed so much energy in his immediate grown "need" and filling it. My guess (from experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:48 PM
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This perceived level of need sounds pathological. If you should fnd a girlfriend, do you imagine that will fix you or your life? That is a hell of a load to dump on someone and doomed to dissappoint. Women and partnering up are nothing like needing food or shelter and if you believe you are miserable without a relationship (and it is clear you do and you are) it is nothing, nothing, like being homeless or starving levels of need. There probably is a biological drive to mate and it probably is st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:39 PM
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Why would not dating not be an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:28 PM
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That's not my take at all. More like, if you feel like you do (i.e. "the entirety of women will never make a single compromise or lift a finger") then it's clear you don't like women, think of them en masse and not as individuals, and one wonders why you would want to date them when you feel this way (and why any would want to date you).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:27 PM
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I'm in agreement with you that (a) it was odd for this woman you really had not relationship with to ask for you to help her and (b) you don't owe her your labot. What is weird is calling your labor a "bodily autonomy" issue as if she whas asking you to bear her child or give her a kidney. If labor is a bodily autnomy issue, then we already give it up to employers and the gov't regularly and we'll need another term for the more invasive and debilitating acts of organ doantion and pregnancy. I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:10 PM
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Love this conspiracy theory of gender - women secretly and cleverly controlling men since Eve made ditzy Adam eat an apple and thus trapped men forever into being the slave provider while she sits home, files her nails, and watches soap operas popping out the occassional kid. Women are brilliant and powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:38 PM
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Definitely. I met my spouse through my sister's husband. My other sister's partner was a coworker and friend of mine. I have several friends who are in relationships with people they met through a friend's partner. But then, we are a social group that gets together and does things and enjoys it. I don't even really understand what this "third space" thing is. We all met through having barbecues, going to the beach, parties, game nights, study groups, and every holiday is always "grab a friend an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:29 PM
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I think you need to understand that you can only legitimately speak for yourself and certainly not most women. If you have never experienced a woman sexually desiring you, then ok. But extrapolating that to women only feel desire for a few Chads is a painfully telling cope and not reality. My partner is no Chad and my three previous boyfriends were short (under 5ft6"), awkward, and not conventionally attractive. And yet, desire occurs. Go figure. Sex feels good and they have all been good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:28 PM
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Actually, that does happen occassionally, doesn't it? I suppose that is what he is asking? It might be more useful to ask how often women get horny for their partner, though. Weird that he seems to think that is "never" for most women partnered to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:22 PM
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Is this what men said when women were societally repressed? Do you want equality or for everyone to be as miserable as you. When women were repressed, they asked for the franchise, they asked for equal access to jobs and college, they asked for the right to control their body. What is it you are asking for? Women to stop going to college and improving themselves? No one keeps you from going to college or says you should not go because you have a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:46 AM
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And of course, there are no draw backs, biological or societal, to being a woman. /s The victim Olympics is a waste of time. Focusing on it does not make you better or stronger or more successful or get you laid. It's just wallowing. For your own mental health, find another hobby and stop obsessing about how green the grass appears to be elsewhere or go get a sex change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:42 AM
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Please cite. And if they do, is that because they choose higher education and higher paying jobs that they work to get? Is this a privelege or a consequence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:39 AM
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With so much actual devastation in the world, you choose ridiculous melodrama?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:38 AM
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Also should show any evidence that women are the "priveleged gender."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:28 AM
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I was a "late bloomer" in that I was still in that self centered and immature mode that children have and should have. I was aware of it and when I felt I had grown up enough and matured enough to be in a mature relationship as an equally contributing partner and perhaps in the, frankly slightly terrifying role as parent, only then did I start actually being open to a relationship. I would have thought that was the norm but, apparently not. Do guys here really think they are all grown up and mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:34 AM
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Though the kernal of truth in "boys are made for" is in the "making" as in, who is doing the making. So, yes indeed, some societies at some points have raised and trained boys for all that shit and girls for subservient brood mares. Times and needs change and societies adapt or die and are replaced, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:11 PM
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Growing and birthin a child is truly heroic and a miracle of the body but, yes, you do pay for it. Some people actually find the overall experience very positive and "no big deal" but some of us have a pretty miserable time, too. Even so, I'd say, terrifying, painful, uncomfortable, and life changing as it was, I adore my two and nothing I have ever done is as meaningful nor have I ever felt or received such love. So, I get it if you don't think it is for you. I definitely get it if you are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:39 AM
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A perineal tear may not be life threatening but it is no fun nor is the rest of child birth. The only really fun thing about it is the endorphins when it is finally over and holding your baby, a whole tiny person you just created through your literal blood, sweat, and tears (and perineal tears!).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:35 AM
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Who is declaring the bare minimum to be parenting? And if you find them, perhaps you should shout at them about it, not the rest of us who are saying the "bare minimum" is being an adult who is not looking for someone else to off load "adulting" upon. One would think you would realize our words, at least, are in agreement. To be clear, since you seem to need it, I do not approve of or respect either a woman or a man wanting or needing a mommy or daddy figure in a LTR. (Outside of a kink fantasy …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:58 PM
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I think men "won" in the consequence game of sex and procreation. Financial implications are much less devastating, IMO, than the, frankly, horrifying burden of pregnancy and labor complicated currently in the US by the fear of not being allowed to make choices about how to deal with it. This last aspect, the fear of l loss of control, is also the frightening part for men and it is a remarkable naivete of pretending they are not actually taking such a chance that amazes me when I see men take no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:52 PM
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You are being obtuse and transparently so. I want a partner, not a child. Are all non children adults your father or mother???
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:45 PM
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I want my partner to be an adult. There may be men out there who find a helpless grown woman charming but that is not a kink widely shared by women, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:42 PM
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I know a lot of men think that way but, IMO, the idea of getting a woman pregnant and then having no control of the outcome would be terrifying. I have no idea why more men are not like OP and use protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:28 AM
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I would guess it has to do more with mental aspects then physical as my understanding is many women orgasm easily from masturbation but not sex with men. Part of this might be that intercourse isn't as central to female orgasm as many men would prefer but my impression is it's more about concentration and distraction. Do women find it harder to split their focus and/or concentrate on their own pleasures with a partner? Stats from lesbians suggest otherwise, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:25 AM
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Yes, he thinks multiple women will raise the kid ... multiple women who aren't the actual mother and may not even be related, meanwhile, the kid has been removed from the custody of their actual mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:45 AM
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Nothing to do with income, of course, /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:42 AM
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You think men have access to multiple women who will raise their kids but women do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:00 PM
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Wishful thinking and weirdass "logic." You are arguing that men should get primary custudy because they are incompetent parents and so some woman will step in and do it because they are better parents? Why not just argue women should get primary custody and save all these convoluted steps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:40 PM
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And you see men making up the parenting deficit by doing the majority of Parent/Teacher conferences, sports events, etc for their teen kids? Yeah, No, I don't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:17 PM
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With more women going to college than men, that seems increasingly possible.,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:21 PM
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you cannot seriously be taking scripted behavior in porn created by men and for men as evidence of what fantasies women have an suppress
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:26 AM
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I'm not naive about sugar coating past history to please a listener. My stance was the details shouldn't be shared at all. It is largely irrelevant and most people neither need or want to hear about it. What is relevant is relative experience to the extent it communicates something useful to a potential partner. So, yes, it is potentially relevant to mention that one has an ex wife but no one needs to hear specifics about your sex life with her and certainly not complaints. That's just tacky. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:18 AM
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Then why are you asking "So all your sexual fantasies you have fulfilled?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:37 PM
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Hmmm. I'm trying to imagine the reverse. I'm sure it would be very flattering to a woman for her partner to say "I've never wanted to go down on another woman but I want to with you." OTOH, I guess you hope they make up for lack of technique by enthusiasm, then? Most of us, though, "save" the little something of promises of a lifetime, thru sickness and health, and perhaps a willingness to bear their children for our husbands. If that isn't enough, they can get off. Women aren't as interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:32 PM
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Really? You believe most women would lie to a partner about whether they were virgins, had some experience, or had a lot of experience? Are these women in their fifties or twenties?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:18 PM
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Hit it and quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:10 PM
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If it was easy, it wouldn't be as special, maybe. It has always been hard. There have always been songs and movies made about how hard it is to find someone special. People are each special little snowflakes and finding another special snowflake to match up in a sea of humanity? Well, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:17 PM
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My post does not at all imply women or men are inherently deceitful. And flat out telling someone you've just met about your past sex life is weird. First of all, it assumes you think it is the most important aspect of yourself and that you think they think so as well. Gross. That said, yes, when it looks like a meeting could lead to something physical, I do think people shoud share their relative experience to avoid misunderstandings more than anything else. A virgin should not allow a partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:08 PM
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I find people who make frivolous and absolute "preferences" like "must be >6ft" or "must have low n-counts" to be far to shallow and uninteresting and what they really need is an AI doll to have their artificial and incredibly boring relationship with. People are much more complicated and interesting. Dolls get traded in every time a new model comes out and no real relationship ever develops. I want to know someone, like what I know about them, and grow together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:04 PM
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Yes, I would be concerned if you could not restrain your physical impulses based on your own better judgement. However, that isn't how you phrased your original question. Did you mean to ask if women had trouble restraining their impulses despite their better judgement and were they concerned about how a future ideal partner might be lost because they could not exorcise control? Because, yes, that should be a concern to anyone looking for someone who can make a commitment and keept it despite po…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:57 PM
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Well, maybe not for your husband but some of us had no trouble finding that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:54 PM
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From reading posts in r/askmen it seems most men rather resent the "gift" of sexual restraint as it is often tied to sexual repression or disinterest and causes them to have to work too hard for crumbs or live in a sexually limited relationship which, apparently, is the worst thing possible. Or did you mean "restraints" in the sexy sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:53 PM
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Let's check it: I like them short but fit little gymnast types with pretty hands and dark hair and some demonstrated mastery at anything at all to fill my "competence kink." You?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:50 PM
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Ah, I think I get the questions, now. You are concerned that a woman who has had sex before will have "used up" all of her sexual fantasies and have nothing left for you? Is that how it works for men? I mean, like you have a fantasy of her being all naughty and hot for you and desperate for your sweet sweet cock but, once you get that experience checked off after one try you don't want that anymore? That would be so very strange, to most of us. I don't think you should concern yourself too deepl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:48 PM
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Do you speak from experience because all the women I know have a very different experience. I suppose it is different if the "all men" you reference is modified to "almost all men OLD."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:38 PM
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If you mean faking being non judgemental, that is counter productive. If one actually has a hard preference and hides it, what purpose does that serve? Better to be clear early on and not waste time with someone unsuitable. The irony here is women objecting to being judged and men objecting to being judged for being judged. It is what it is. Dating is a process of searching for compatibility and if people aren't transparent enough to be judged fairly, it just complicates things, adds delay and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:36 PM
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I'd be more concerned with how he treated previous relationships and sexual encounters than the absolute number. For instance was he a "cheater?" Did he practice safe sex? Did he "hit it and quit it?" Was the previous "slutting" an indicator of alcohol or drug issues or bad friends and peer pressure? Does he "kiss and tell" particularly disrespectfully? Or was he enjoying and exploring his sexuality treating partners with respect and having a good time until he was ready to settle down and commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:30 PM
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No man I would actually want would be judgemental about reasonable sexual exploration prior to meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:27 PM
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Which also means, when one actually runs into a man who does spark significant sexual interest, they are a real temptation and, for someo of us, why not (if we are not currently in a relationship)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:25 PM
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Sure, just as women must realize the scullery maid who is saved by the dashing (and rich) prince and they live happily ever after isn't real. And both men and women need to realize sex is important, great sex is amazing, but matched libidos that stay matched effortlessly forever is extremely unlikely and leaving someone because you are out of synch is not love, it is transactional and makes very clear that what is wanted is not a partner, someone to love, or someone to end loneliness but a dispo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:46 PM
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If being decent and doing all the right things ensured finding love, there would not be so many songs written about trying to find love and "where the hell is my husband" (hilarious song, btw), or fairytales where even the prince has to throw a ball and invite 100s of women to fall for only one (because of a foot fetish of all things). Are you looking for someone, anyone or someone to love? Because most people are looking for someone special who thinks they are special. That connection doesn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:14 PM
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The good news is (for certain definitions of "good") this is very easy to fake and keep your guy happy. If you can talk yourself into having fun with role play, top from the bottom and it might even be rather enjoyable in it's own absurd way. Ladies, you know what to do (or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:09 PM
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Oh, dear. If that is what you are holding out for and anythinge else will dissappoint and make you feel cheated and like your partner is being transactional you have set yourself up for endless unneccessary greif.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:05 PM
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LMAO. Men choose women overwhelmingly based on the idea that they will get regular sex from them and the hope she hasn't offered that deal to others, at least that is the clear message in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:00 PM
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This is a difference in the intent of using the word "parenting." As in, creating a child vs raising a child. A man (or woman) who fathers (mothers) a child is called a parent regardless of how many diapers he (she) changes or toys he picks up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:31 PM
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Literally, the words should mean the same thing but "attractive" has diverged from "something that attracts" to "looks good." There are lots of people who look good but I don't find it pings the "sexy" meter. I presume this varies from person to person. An obvious example would be an older man who looks "distinguished" and attractive but I wouldn't fantasize about sleeping with them. There are others that I couldn't even explain why they don't hit as "sexy" and there are some who hit as "sexy" b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:12 PM
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I think they would revise their opinion the first time they tried to participate as an equal in a conversation with a group of men who dismiss everything they say as unworthy of listening to because they have a vagina. (Note, not all men, of course but it's such a common experience socially and professionally).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:42 PM
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These are the narrow observations of an outside observer with prior bias who likely doesn't even know any actual women well enough to get any insight into their experiences. The brain latches on to what it wants to see that confirms priors and makes them feel better. This is, of course, true for both men and women which is why we need to communicate more in good faith instead of living in our own worlds and building up walls between each other that make our fears and complaints actual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:40 PM
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learn to argue without getting emotional. I am looking forward to seeing you use this quote to respond to other redditors regardless of gender. Otherwise, shame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:33 PM
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A fit 41 yr old can still be in the range of physically attractive but I do wonder what the plan is in ten years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:00 AM
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But are the women physically desiring the older man or is the attraction about something else? For instance, competence and self confidence are very attractive but a six pack is sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:59 AM
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Yes, women are advantaged by having scholarships for women but, a woman getting a scholarship in no way denies men anything. If these scholarships for women were disallowed, would men somehow reap anything or be less "disadvantaged?" No, it would be the same for men, they wouldn't get the scholarship. It isn't the scholarships that are "disadvantaging" men. There are scholarships for athletes for instance, does this disadvantage non athletes? No. Now your point that having access to fewer schola…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:56 PM
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I presume it is just a psuedo scientific "manly" way of talking about falling in love which, I note, no one here ever seems to do. Everyone wants to find a partner and access to sex comes up a lot as well as things like loyalty and compatibility but never love or "matters of the heart" - just this "pair bonding" which is something we are to understand that women do more than men and less than they should if they aren't near virginal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:22 PM
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coherently?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:18 PM
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Yes. This is a very strong argument for there to be scholarships for men to encourage men to go to college. It is not, though, a good argument to not have scholarships for women or that having scholarships for women somehow disadvantages men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:58 PM
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The point still stands. Someone else getting a scholarship is not a disadvantage to you. It takes nothing away from you. It has nothing to do with you. To the extent you were disadvantaged, it could only be in that men do not fund scholarships for men. Which is a pretty vague disadvantage and nothing to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:56 PM
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It is pitiful if it is more about "someone had an advantage I didn't have." Do you believe there was harm done to you because someone else got a scholarship? Did them getting that scholarship deny you a scholarship? No, it didn't, if it was available to women only. If it was a scholarship available to anyone but you later found out they favored women, then maybe but that wasn't what you said. Presumably, you got into college or the scholarship question is moot. Women getting scholarships does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:51 PM
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I would agree. This applies to men who seem to keep ending up with shitty women. Choose better and stop pretending all women are shitty "biologically" or because of "radical feminism."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:38 PM
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I would imagine people who are involved with an abusive partner very much are "sorry they did that." So, yay, "accountability" requirement solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:35 PM
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Yes, small minded women will complain about it just as small minded men complain about women's only scholarships. It is pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:46 PM
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What are men, protozoa? They have brains and free will and can choose as well as modify behavior. If men being competitive is a problem (and women being more social is a threat to men - wtf?) then their behavior is no longer a survival benefit. Change or suffer. Or, I guess, just blame women for it and beg for them to fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:43 PM
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but performance was specified as something not to be included in the evaluation. WTF? Then what is the evaluation based on? Fashion sense? Sense of humor?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:02 PM
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I would wonder if a multinational construction company had only 15% women, those women might have been pretty impressive and pretty committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:13 PM
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Education colleges also target men and offer scholarships and advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:08 PM
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Most, if not all, of these gender restricted scholarships are privately funded and awarded. Men need to get together and fund scholarships targeted to men, also. When I went to college, one of the best acceptance and scholarship bullet points was being an Eagle Scout. It really pissed me off that there was no equivalently weighted value to any level of being a Girl Scout. So, I get the frustration. On the bright side, though, there are sooooooo many scholarships available and so many of them are…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:07 PM
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Pretty sure the general consensus among women is the draft should not exist but if men don't actively want to fight it, not sure what you want women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:59 PM
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Not sure what you mean. Thanks to feminism, women can vote, own property, go to college, work, not consent to marital rape, get a divorce, open a bank account, join the military, run for office and get elected (except, so far, the highest office), marry or not marry as is their choice, choose when to start a family and what size that family should be, etc. Those are pretty specific improvements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:57 PM
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I took that redditors comments about relationship status to relate more to the fact they cannot comment on the current state of dating and whether feminist influences have or have not impacted that. As for perception of disadvantages, that the redditor has a close relationship and communications with someone of the other sex who is in the same career field and can therefor make comparisons based on more information is very useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:49 PM
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No, they answered the question as asked - what are there experiences not their understanding of experiences for men as a whole or what reddit says is the general experience. Try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:46 PM
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I wish it worked like this but "find out if your libidos match early on," good advice as it is, doesn' guarantee they will stay matched up at all. Pregnancy and children change things. Work pressures change things. Medications change things. Life changes things. I would suggest, "communicate early on what you both intend to do when life inevitably fucks up your well matched libidos."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:48 AM
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Maybe, but the conservative solution is "dont be poor?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:28 PM
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Have you ever met a woman who "fantasizes that men will die en mass on front?" I think you are making that up out of an excess of hate and frustration. But, if there is a woman out there like that (or a man), yes, they are dumb and ignorant. I would add that, at least in the US, joining the military is and has been the best and most successful social mobility program (and socialist system) we have ever put into place. I speak from experience - two college degress, great training, world travel, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:27 PM
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By "demographic problems" are you referring to declining total fertility rates that lead to a demographic age pyramid that increasingly is top heavy in old people compared to young (productive) people? The simplest fix (mathematically, maybe not culturally) to TFR rates (how many children a woman has on average) of below 2 children per woman is to have twice as many women as men and get rid of all barriers and stigma to single motherhood so that women are willing to have the number of kids they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:21 PM
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Now add in the stat that 90% of jobs since 2020 have gone to women and foreign born people, WTF, you just made that crazy "statistic" up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:59 PM
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Haven't many of the mass shootings in the last several years been incel acts? They weirdly think it makes them look powerful, strong, and manly, finally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:50 PM
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It is a regular occurrence right here on this sub to see men suggesting the gov't should issue a woman to every man in the interest of "fairness" or stopping possible incel violence or just beause they wnat sex. Occassionally they come right out and say it but commonly they coyly talk all around it defining thier point by the shape of the absense of what they do not say or respond to. I cannot understand how you have missed these posts and comments. Mind you, I do get the impression a few of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:48 PM
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Junior officers, maybe but in sheer numbers, it's the grunts traditionally. (Not including the AF where the fighters are the pilots and they are all officers in the US, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:37 PM
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I think the usual expectation of the flow is: Societal unrest driven by angsty young men Leader who wants to stay in power starts a war defining some hyped up outside threat and or lots of access to glory and treasure, and, of course, the manliness of patriotism and military service Military draft implemented with exceptions for the rich ("bone spurs"), those pursuing advanced degrees, those in "critical" jobs, and those married with families. (Which is to say, not the young, blue collar, poor, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:33 PM
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Helped "worse" than what those conservatives suggest which is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:23 PM
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I believe the traditional path is not to send the left over men to labor camps but to draft them and kill them off in war. The "high value" men are the ones exempt either through wealth (and "bone spurs"), enrolled in college, in "essential" jobs, or married and making babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:20 PM
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"Enjoy?" Nope. "minority groups?" Which? Do you mean men who cannot or do not want to find a partner? I don't think that is a group to which the term "instinct" (extinct?) can apply. But I feel the same way about women who are too unattractive, ornery, or uninterested to find a partner not reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:45 PM
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Dude, if you don't like being a plumber, don't be a plumber. Go sit in a soft office and deall with societies problems. Also, just wait a minute or too. Your stats are about to be outdated as the demographics switch to more women earning more money than men and paying more in taxes that go to support all the poor men. Clearly, the only "fair" thing for you to support then will be that all men should be forced into unwanted sexual relationships, house cleaning, and child care for these tax paying…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:43 PM
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Are you suggesting men die without sex? Big if true and the whole situation should be self correcting then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:37 PM
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It is not moral that the state purse gun to a man's head and takes money from him to give it to women. I see this complaint here regularly. You do understand the state takes money from those who have it and gives it to those who do not including men? You do understand, to the extent many women get aid from the state it is because of children they are raising? More importantly, you do understand the state takes this money from women also to give to the less fortunate? And that, with more women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:35 PM
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This sub is sure an interesting window into a strange micro culture. Mind you, the feminist subs are equally strange and in similar ways. I say this as a feminist supporter but the internet brings out the extreme, the angry, and the weird.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:24 PM
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So how do we fix education for boys? (BTW, my father is an elementary educator, half of my highschool and a third of my elem teachers were male, and half of my daughters were male teachers. No one was considered "creepy" or accused of anything. I think men are more afraid than they should be. I do know of one male teacher who was accused. he was dating one of his students, though, so righteous.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:22 PM
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So if we can't get men to go into education, how do we fix it for boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:20 PM
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I think you are missing the point of the above redditor. Not long ago at all, young women were perceived to be on the hunt for marriage and children and young men were perceived to be dodging and weaving to avoid it in the interest of sowing wild oats, postponing responsibility, shopping around, and concentrating on their careers. At least on line, those desires seem to have switched. (In the real world, I think both young men and young women want to settle down later or not at all and have kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:09 PM
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I'm good with that. I'm not sure what you are specifically suggesting though - scholarships for men or DEI quotas?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:05 PM
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ATTENTION: Subredditors note, this is a man arguing women SHOULD be transactional and exchange sex they don't want for goods and money and they should be dependents of men. Honestly, I don't think this is what most men actually want nor would it make them feel loved or less lonely. It would also not solve anything for men who have no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:03 PM
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I cannot imagine pressuring women into pretending they aren't faking interest is a "solution" to the issue. Sure, if you could wave a magic wand and have women suddenly find all men so attractive they desired to mate with them for eternity, then "male loneliness" might not be an issue. Might as well wave a magic wand and make all men beautiful, interesting, wealthy, dependable, and great at sex so they can all get "CHAD priveleges."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:01 PM
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Using that reasoning, men should fake lower libido until they achieve it and get some peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:57 PM
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Seriously, you are going to need to convince women, collectively, that it is good for them, collectively, to have sex and be in relationships with men they are not attracted to. And then you are going to have to convince the bulk of men also because most men do not want to be trapped in a relationship with someone who doesn't desire or even like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:34 PM
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I think most people realize there is a problem. It's the presented or implied solutions that turn people away. Women have brothers and sons. They care about them and their happiness. But implying the only solution is force women into unwanted sexual relaions is repulsive. More ethical, by far, to suggest people make peace with the idea that they can survive and thrive with or without a sex partner. Absurd that this is not commonly understood (on the internet) despite whole communities and plenty…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:31 PM
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That's happening already with women choosing higher education and men opting out. Just let the trend continue and you'll get your wish. But then, how will this make men less lonely or more sexed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:26 PM
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I think it's a natural reaction to step away from the crazy. The black pill is a black hole that sucks people into despair and they seek to take others down into misery, too. No one enthralled actually seems to want to get better and all offers of sympathy or help are slapped away. I'm concerned but if I can't help because someone is enjoying their "oppression" and wallowing in their victimhood, I won't offer help or sympathy that actions show is not actually wanted. Company in misery is the goa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:23 PM
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Yes, this is interesting if the desire for marriage and kids has switched from young women to young men but I'm not sure it isn't just a phenomena that gets magnified on the internet. At least all the college men I know are very much "I'm too young to marry and just want to sow wild oats and concentrate on building a career."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:16 PM
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We actually do encourage men to get into women dominated fields like nursing and education. It's working fairly well in nursing, not well at all in education. Frankly, only naive people who love kids go into education and it's shit pay and low prestige.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:12 PM
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What would "removing the bumpers from their lane" mean in regards to addressing disparities in education? Are you talking DEI and quotas for men to get into college or more recess in elementary school?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:10 PM
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Your take is women should fake desire for men including undesirable men or they are "destroying men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:07 PM
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The absurdity is in assuming there is no self interest in keeping a functioning society. Chaos is good for no one. Craving it is the natural reaction of a tantrum throwing immature child. Instead of destruction, consider working to make the imperfect better. People respect those who create and make life better. Those are the strong and the effective. "Burn it all down" is the mantra of the weak, the unimaginative, the foolish and the lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:00 PM
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The V line iliac furrows on a very cut man that lead from his hps to his dick. Also known as the Adonis belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:31 AM
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Equality! Most men also "settle" and most of their relationships end, also. Learn to dance and your sex game will improve it will also improve your opportunities, your options for what to do on a date, and her desire for you. But go on obsessing about small dick which cannot be changed and somehow blaming that on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:43 PM
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Far more likely that men just like to engage in competitve dick measuring contests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:41 PM
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Same. One of these redditors is convinced every woman wants and has had and still yearns for that big dick they had once. I remember a dude who was unusually large. The sex sucked and was eminently forgetable (nice guy though). To the extent I remember and "yearn," it was for the guy with the beautiful abs and cum gutters and round tight ass. He could also fuck. It mattered not at all that he was 5'6" and had a smallish dick. I also remember the one who had a voice that could melt a pussy from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:22 PM
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Most women prefer a six pack, broad shoulders, a tight round ass, a man who can cook, doesn't look like a fool on the dance floor, and someone who can fuck like a god. Funny, they don't get that yet most people end up partnered. Of all things to obsess about, instead of worrying that your dick is too small, go get that six pack, learn to cook, and learn to dance. All those things matter more because those are things she and her friends can see and gain public status about. Ask that on line dude …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:15 PM
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I think it starts much much earlier than that. Pre pubescent boys start comparing and joking and obsessing about dick size and that is when girls are still thinking boys have kooties, dicks are silly, balls are bizarre, and the thought of sex (if they even know what it is) is like imagining getting peed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:11 PM
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I would add that a 7 in dick on a guy with a gut is not as impressive or sexy as a 5 in dick on a guy without. And anything within a normal range (5-7in) on a guy with a six pack and cum gutters is hotter than a donkey dick on a guy without those earned and beautiful attributes. A guy who can pick a girl up, hold her against the wall, and rail her into the next room - doesn't matter what size his dick is, he's a god.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:07 PM
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That doesn't make it not transactional or entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:53 PM
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Child care and parenting duties including custody in the event of a divorce. Health care disparities including bodily autonomy and access to aborttion. Parental leave. Why are boys falling behind in school. Why are women not going into engineering fields. In our modern world, why does anyone give a flying fuck about gender/sex unless they are trying to make a baby? Why is the online community working so hard to stir up a gender war? And also, the most difficult to solve but probably most impactf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:46 PM
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There are but maybe we should start with something relatively easy. Social norms about who should pay when dating seems like an easy one to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:29 PM
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They should clear that up early. I am not a fan of mandatory sharing of "n count" or divulging personal and private details of previous sex partners (that is so tacky) but I do think people should share their relative experience levels and what they are looking for and do so fairly early. If you have one person who is not interested in experimenting and exploring for whatever reason (previous negative experience or just a more prudish preference) and another who wants to go wild and get their ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:28 PM
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THAT is the point. It leaves it open to interpretation and insecurities. The first statement makes it clear she doesn't like anal and doesn't want to do it. It isn't about the new guy, it might not be about the old guy. It's about the act. She doesn't like it. The end. If it is that unclear, I woudl suggest the man should try getting pegged first. That usually ends the discussion. For the most part, he just won't want to and that is regardless of whether he confirmed that dislike with prior expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:23 PM
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Why would he "settle down" if he felt he had experimenting to get out of his system? Understand, a partner noping out of certain sexual acts happens whether that person has had previous partners or not and is valid. Many people are repulsed by ass eating and it isn't because they've tried it before. As a partner, you need to accept this. They can decline things and so can you. If your preference and your needs are for someone who is extremely experimental and willing to try anything, then specif…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:15 PM
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That's a catch 22 for the woman. She should feel obligated to perform for the new guy too because if she doesn't, then she doesn't want to keep him? Add that if she never tried the anal sex (or whatever) would his coercive argument not be "try it, you might like it?" So basically, a woman can't refuse any sex act a man wants to try? This is all so weird. If a man tried pegging to be agreeable with a former partner or because he thought he might enjoy it but decided he didn't, is that not enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:02 PM
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If she implies she never tried it before, would he not try to convince her she might like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:56 PM
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Add that she may have been immature and uncertain before and now she is grown and knows her mind and/or she may have been insecure and fearful with a previous relationship and afraid to assert her boundaries because she didn't trust him to honor them but she is now with you so presumably, she has "chosen better."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:55 PM
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If it "sounds like" that but objectively isn't, work on your self esteem. If it sounds like that because that is what she is saying, move on from this self absorbed bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:52 PM
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Theoretically, there is spanking, choking, role play, bondage, public sex, threesomes, and so many other possibilities, but, yeah, when it comes up, chances are it's about butt sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:49 PM
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An anecdote I always recall with a smirk was a guy I dated who was obsessed with it. We parted ways and he started dating my friend. On a camping trip, he thought he'd live the dream. She had an explosive shit mid act all over him, the tent, the sleeping bags, etc. No showers. They had to hike out like that. Not sure if he still is obsessed with anal or not but damn sure she isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:47 PM
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Time to leave before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:42 PM
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I get it, some women are self centered manipulative bitches. Same with some men. It's not really a controversial take. Everyone should understand that doesn't mean "all women" or "all women" and should not phrase it that way, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:35 PM
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Which is why framing matters. "I tried anal and didn't like it" hits a lot different than "I let my left boyfriend fuck my ass but I don't want you to." Make it about yourself and your choices. Don't introduce third wheels into the relationship particularly when the third wheel can be perceived as having been preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:32 PM
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I don't actually disagree with anything in the post but, for funsies, I switched all the references from men <-> women and it read just as true. Men seem to not really like women that much to begin with. Trying to date men often feels like pushing a boulder up hill. Long term relationships with men tend to turn into deals women didn't sign up for. My conclusion is that most people just don't like other people and finding someone compatible to love is difficult and succcess is not guaranteed. BTW…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:08 PM
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You are veering way off topic unless you are assuming on the first date they are going to have sex and therefore the man should pay because the woman is risking pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:58 PM
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Because that has been the norm and the cultural expectation. Does that mean it should always be the cultural expectation? Times are changing, Women are going to college and earning as much as men, if not more. Age gaps of older man, young woman are not as common. Women (and men) are not societally channeled into a single path of "find someone to marry, pop out kids, man supports woman while she house keeps and raises the kids." Should a woman with a decent job and ability to support themselves e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:53 PM
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You pay for my stuff -> I'll spend time with you, be your girlfriend, sex you. You don't pay for my stuff -> I won't. This is a transaction and quid pro quo. It is not affection or respect or loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:40 PM
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I'm not a fan of "should" and I can think of no good reason why "the man *should* be courting the woman not the other way around." To the extent anyone is "courting" it should be mutual interest and effort. These takes here are so wildly Victorian.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:33 PM
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The point of a first date is to evaluate the guy as a future husband. Yikes. No it isn't. Not everyone is shopping for an M.R.S. and sugar daddy sitch. This is trad wife territory. Most of us just date because we like men (or women, depending) and want to have fun. Maybe that person can turn into something serious, lifelong even and include having children but the odds are pretty slim on that and using that as a reason to leach off of someone's hard earnings is cold and calculating and, yes, ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:17 PM
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The fact you confuse the effects (the need for more to give the same effect) indicates there might be some confusion in your mind about these two.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:00 PM
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Men were not that happy with it, either. Being trapped, forever, in a marriage to someone you barely knew and married because you were horny and there was no other condoned outlet for it (not even masturbation or porn) and having the sole responsibility of providing for that person and all the children you might not even want was not as great a deal as some seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:04 PM
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Define "worked."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:01 PM
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It is the legal bond. "Pair bonding" as used by yourself and others appears to imply an emotional connection. Something akin to "falling in love" with connotations of "your one, true, soul mate" or something. Reality suggests if such a thing exists, it is rare and subject to all kinds possible self delusion and the weatherings of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:00 PM
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I haven't even ever heard of anyone who experienced such a thing unless it is just a pseudo scientific way of saying "falling in love" and my experience has been that people who "fall in love" early and often are prone to do that more, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:57 PM
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Yikes. Oxycotin /=/ oxytocin. At all. Oxycotin is a powerful, addictive opiode. Oxytocin is a hormone the body produces. Whereas a tolerance for opiodes can be built up requiring higher doses to achieve the same effect, I've never heard such a claim for hormones, and, if anything, I'd suspect the more "happy hormones" you produce the easier it is to produce and get the effect not the opposite of the harder it is to get the effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:55 PM
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This is a good argument for why husbands, probably fiances, and maybe boyfriends should pay more as their contribution to the financial burdens of parenting. But dates? What are the odds some guy on a first time date with someone met through OLD is going to father children with that woman? Is this some kind of socialism of the future cost of child bearing and raising? It's not like the money from the date is put into a hope chest and reserved for that eventuality. It's not like the woman would d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:11 PM
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Weird, I thought the point of first dates was to get to know someone to see if you liked them. If that "liking" on the first date is dependent on him being a potential cash cow for future children and to support a spouse who isn't working, then the frequent argument men make here, that women are transactional and hypergamous would be correct. Luckily, I don't think all or even most women are running these calculations on first meets with dudes nor do I think most women are hypergamous. And, surv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:07 PM
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I would just like to make clear that not all women, not even most, are as transactional and hypergamous as this reddit user. That said, if some here keep running into this type, I can see where some of the gender hate is coming from. Yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:58 PM
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If having you as a partner is expensive, and you are not actively bearing and raising his children, then what you have is not a romantic partnership, it is a sugar daddy arrangement. I hope any man involved in this kind of relatinship has the money for that and understands the terms of the transaction. I hope any woman involved in this type of transaction understand they come with an expiration date for whenever he finds something he likes better for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:57 PM
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So any guy who dates has to pay for the expense of the girl's future children almost certainly to be fathered by someone else? This is, literally, an entitlement argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:54 PM
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And the expense of that should be born by every first date? There point is not "moot" it is just ridiculously premature. The financial burdens of having and raising a child should fall upon those contemplating having the child. These first dates are a bit premature for that and the odds are strongly that the dude from a few texts on OLD is going to be or is interested in being any eventual baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:53 PM
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Do you consider yourself someone who values gender equality? Do you consider women the weaker, submissive sex that needs to be taken care of and can't take care of themselves? Do you believe men should be paid more than women because they are the "providers?" Do you consider all of this genetic and the "natural order" and inevitable or social norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:48 PM
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Here's a thought, go on a date with a man because he seems interesting and you are interested in him? If you want a sugar daddy not a partner, just be clear and don't waste anyone else's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:41 PM
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Agreed but how is it meaningfully wrong? At it's best and most justifiable, expecting a man to pay is testing for financial stability that can support a woman who might have to be without income while she has their children. What other possible reason could there be for this outdated tradition? OP maybe should have said "womb" instead of "vagina" but that is quibbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:40 PM
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Fancy dinners for a first date is awkward as hell particularly if they've only "met" through on line dating. The worst is if the woman gets the impression the man isn't used to that type of venue and/or might be struggling to pay. Better to be poor (esp if there is a temp reason like being a college student) and go for ice cream and a walk in the park than to put on ill fitting dress clothes and awkwardly try to figure out the manners of a fancy dinner while looking pale at the bill but insistin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:38 PM
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I think everyone would agree that, historically, men paying was the social expectation. Do you think that expectation is in flux now, though? The posts here indicate it is and the women I talk to (admittedly, all college grads and professionals) don't expect or even want it at all (on the first date, though long term partners tend to divide it up based on comparative earnings or whomever chooses the venue and price point). In fact, many insist on splitting the bill (each pays for what was ordere…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:33 PM
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Because dating isn't about money it's about getting to know someone? If you don't want to go out with someone unless they pay you then your approach is grossly mercenery and indicates your approach is transactional and you value the man for his wallet primarily. That should be a red flag unless the man is looking for a trad wife and you demonstrate those qualities of subservience and submission as well as have skills as a good cook, housekeeper, and have good breeding genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:01 PM
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Women get paid less than men. Is this your experience in actual jobs? I have flipped burgers, worked retail, construction, engineering, the military, and teaching and can guarantee, in all of those jobs, there was no difference in pay between the genders. Was their a difference in lifetime earnings? Sure, if the woman took time off to raise kids and missed out on years of promotion, but that's not a pay difference. In fact, the only time I've seen that was the difference in pay between house cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:58 PM
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For initiating, yeah, you're probably right but after that, if it went well, I find women often suggest getting together at place xyz or to do abc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:15 PM
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Agreed. I find many women prefer these low stakes first meets, also because there isn't the impression that they must put out, after and the daytime and public venue feels safer. Also less awkward to converse when you can move and comment on things around. I like street fairs, mutual interest gallery/museum dates, rock climbing gym dates, zoo, ice or roller skating dates, bowling, etc also.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:13 PM
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I've always worked on the model that whomever chooses the venue (and is aware of the price point) pays with the expectation that turns are taken, for fairness. Yes, this means many will default to the historical norm of man asks, man chooses venue, man pays. And given how many dates don't lead to a second, this is financially unfair. But then, I much prefer very light first encounters - walks on the beach with vendor food, coffee dates, picnic hikes, etc. I find it much easier to converse natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:06 PM
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I agree that "looks" and "attraction" can develop and are not static or are tied to societal verdicts on what is good looking. I know for a fact my dad and mom still find each other beautiful. Gray hair, wrinkles, pot bellies, and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:54 PM
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It is ideal that long term partners be physically and emotionally compatible, love each other, and have similar life goals. If you can max out all of that, you've found your unicorn. That said, it is naive as hell to imagine tose compatibilities will stay in lock step throughout a long term relaionship. Expect variance. Commitment involves work, communication, understanding, and, yes, compromise. If it was easy, it wouldn't be called "commitment."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:30 PM
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That's fine if that is your choice but advocating that others do so is taking it quite a bit farther than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:24 PM
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Absolutes are invariably ridiculous statements. They are naive and, in this case, grossly misandrist. All men are not the same. Just as all women are not the same. I like men. I like women. Some are good, some are not. All are different. Simple minds crave simple black and white generalities, I get it. But step outside. That aint life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:22 PM
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I have to confess, physical characteristics played a large part of what I found attractive both from the perspective of eliciting a libido response but also in considering someone as a long term partner. I wanted children and I wanted them to have all the physical positives I could give them or find in a partner. So, yes, good hair, even features, appealing musculature, weight, height, good eyesight, etc, was a definite plus and, in some cases, an over riding consideration. I actually dated a dw…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:16 PM
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Wanting both beauty and character isn't shallow. It's what most people are looking for. Yes? Is there something surprising that people (not just men, not just women) are attracted to beauty and pleasing character? Does the term "attractive" not make that apparent. "Attractive" people attract people? It's in the word. The nuance is in what individuals find attractive. And the rub is in what one finds attractive doesn't always find ones own self similarly attractive. C'est la vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:04 PM
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Maybe you should walk around and look at western culture pairing. Shockingly, there are a lot of not 6ft4in guys out there with indiffernt jaw lines who are paired up. Not at all shockingly is how often lust does not play a strong role for women looking for partners. Maybe don't get your world view from tiktok?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:02 PM
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I am still looking for all these posts claiming women don't care about looks. Please, point these elusive posts out. Of course women are attracted to good looks. Of course women who want to have children (and men too) care about the genes of potential co parents. Of course women care about other attributes, also.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:00 PM
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Never have I seen a "just be nice" post here. I have seen "be nice" as one component of attractiveness but it's more like, "don't be an asshole" and it is only a component along with "learn how to hold a conversation," and, of course, "do what you can to improve your looks," and actually get outside and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:52 PM
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Nobody says "just be nice" and you'll get laid. Nobody. If being attractive was simply "being nice" we wouldn't have invented a seperate word for "attractive" we'd just say "nice." What is attractive depends on the viewer and involves multiple traits. You can not be seriously suggesting you have ever heard anyone say that they find a nice guy sufficient for them to feel horny and attracted to that guy. Why do people search so hard for a reason to be angry at "feminists" and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:45 PM
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Feminists don't have any stated policy for men on how to get laid. I'm sure trad wife type women would also recommend being a nice person, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:25 PM
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Perhaps they were frustrated with the sex in the relationship and, since owning their share of responsibility for why it might not have been satisfying would be a mature but difficult thing to do, they off loaded it all on you and your perceived lack of satisfaction or interest must be because you were secretly yearning for lots of (in the words of an above redditor) "big dick." Hence, you were a "slut."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:58 PM
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Women don't "inately" know, they know they know because society tells them, repeatedly and then gets all sad or angry at women because they don't have sex with men or have learned to decenter and suppress their own sexuality and aren't meeting men's needs or have learned to use sex transactionally instead of as an act of mutual pleasure. Pick a lane and live with the ridiculously predictable consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:54 PM
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I blame multiple choice tests where there is always a short answer, Free response tests force people to compose their thoughts and think more complexly. Simple minds crave simple answers. (Also, "gotcha" culture which is all about winning, not understanding, learning, or even communicating.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:37 PM
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Dude, nobody here knows you to give you specific advice. You are asking for general advice that generally works at least compared to the opposite of the advice. If you want specific advice, ask your friends. If you don't have friends than, the answer to your problem of not getting laid is very secondary to the problem of your inability or unwillingness to make connections with other humans. Get busy with that, first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:07 AM
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You have to give someone something to like. Can you not come up with anything at all, yourself? Would you have sex with you? Would you like you? Do you like yourself? If not, how the hell do you think someone else can give you some magic suggestion that will miraculously flip a switch and pussy will rain down upon you? Frankly, the only thing I've seen that has good results and isn't as difficult as "learn to be a great conversationalist" or "get good looking" is learn to dance, get better than …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:03 AM
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"someone" said it so its just a representative of the group? Someone HERE said it. In fact more than one someone and they were upvoted. So, no, I would not assume they represent all of the sub (they were also downvoted) but they show a not uncommon opinion so they do represent a certain population. Is that population "all men?" Fuck no. Not even close. This sub just attracts a niche and weird population. I actually appreciate that part of that weirdness is being willing to share and educate the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:55 PM
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Your entire post uses terms like "moral" and "moralize" in regards to attraction. BTW, it appears you are looking for a blanket generalization. A particular man might be unattractive to a particular woman for reasons of physical attraction, or it could be about personality, or their own actions, or any combination. But, if you are insisting on generalizations, I would say, generally, that hating someone doesn't tend to lead to them liking you and trying to pull of hating someone without them twe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:42 PM
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Ah, I see the confusion. I am not talking about feminism or equality or equal pay, or even abortion access (though I cannot understand why men who complain about child support aren't avid supporters of abortion access). I am talking about freedom and choice. We routinely see here on this sub and in other spaces, someone asserting some version of their "right" to get laid and have sex and that, if they are not getting that right fulfilled, society or gov't should be obligated to do something abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:34 PM
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I can't think of a more effective way to generate attraction than dancing. We used to understand this and events were hosted for young people "coming out" that specifically centered around dancing to break the ice and get people interested in each other. I'm not saying men need to be good enough to join a K-pop boy band, or whatever (though, hell yeah that would be like instant "Chad" status regardless of height or penis size or whatever men think women insist on). Just a sense of rhythm and wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:47 PM
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moralizing incels unsucess. its not because of what he said, his beliefs, or any of that. its just that he was short and/or unnatractive. what is the moral issue inherent in this? A moral issue would be "I don't want to date person X because they are promiscuous and I think that is immoral." How is "I find body hair unattractive" moralizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:43 PM
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It literally is making the problem someone elses. The problem: man can't get laid His solution: to off load his problem of not getting laid to making a problem for women (losing their bodily autonomy) so that he gets laid (no more problem for him).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:39 PM
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It is very difficult to believe this for real needs to be explained. I know for a fact, men go through the same process, though they tend to be willing to fuck the attractive person anyway, at least once, while wishing she would not speak and demonstrate her unattractive personality traits. I would add, for women, at least, it can work the other way where a man who does not immediately register as "attractive" can move into the "attractive" category usually with time, exposure and demonstrating …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:23 PM
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The irony that OP thinks it is women who "moralize" attraction when men, here, are repulsed by a woman who likes sex ... until they marry and then they "moralize" that she doesn't want to have sex. Whip lash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:13 PM
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Anything along the lines of "I can't get any traction with OLD and that isn't fair so women's rights should be ignored so I can get some pussy as god intended."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:07 PM
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None of this is a moral issue. What does attraction have to do with morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:02 PM
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Not sure what you mean by that so I'm not sure how to answer. Are you saying that statements to the effect "All men [something negative inserted here]" are insults? My issue with absolute statements is that there are virtually no absolutes when it comes to humanity short of things like "all men/women die." It's just lazy argumenting and invariably incorrect. Logically, all that is needed is to counteract an absolute is one example that does so. That said, if someone posted a more possible qualif…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:48 PM
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Second this statement. Anyone with this attitude is not a keeper, throw him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:39 PM
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Could it be you because I haven't seen men treated like that here, either unless you mean women saying some version of "men aren't worth it" or "no good men" is treating men as subhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:38 PM
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Yes, a single perceived insult can totally derail a conversation. Gee, what a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:25 PM
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No, it isn't. The fact that so many use the term "females" for humans and not the corresponding term "males" indicates something more than a dictionary definition is intended. You can use the term "negro" to refer to black people conversationally, also and be "precise" in your language. But, i don't recommend that, either. Let me know when you see a post about "males" having to pay for dates, and "males" prefer virgins, and "males" are underrepresented in college, and "I like to hang out with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:21 PM
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The issue with using word "female" outside of a scientific paper instead of the more commonly used "women" is that it is associated with red pillers, incels, and misogynists and widely taken to be intended to be a low grade insult and demeaning. I doubt that anyone here grew up generally using "females" instead of "women" or "girls" and that means they picked it up somewhere. And, the fact this is being discussed at all makes it pretty clear that it is understood to be offensive. So, if anyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:14 PM
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Men are people. Now, if you start seeing women refer to men as "males" then your claim has some real evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:03 PM
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Explain this take in the context of men who easily get what they want from women yet are misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:08 PM
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Fair enough, but the complaints we see here tend not to be worded as complaints but as attacks with a very strong suggestion of "all women blah, blah." We don't see a lot of "I get frustrated that, as a man I seem to be expected to pay for first dates when I thought we were working towards an egalitarian and non-patriarchical society?" Instead we see "Women are all gold diggers and view men transacationally." Then we get bogged down in the endless yet deserved rebuttal of "not all women," "choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:06 PM
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1st para, I agree, personally though I do not think there should be a legal or criminal restriction for many reasons including practical ones like not wanting the gov't to decide what is a reason of "convenience" and what isn't. It is very convenient to not suffer months of nausea and exhaustion, not get hemmerhoids, not rip from vagina to anus, not have your belly cut open, not go into medical debt, not have your job put at risk, not have to buy a new wardrobe for a changing body, etc etc. As f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:10 PM
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What does it matter who they had casual sex with??? If it was casual, then those people didn't matter they were just experimentation, or masturbation with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:41 PM
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I think it is more a case of not wanting to carry a man (without getting something of value from it like the friend who wants a house daddy so she can work her crazy hour job). Nobody wants someone in debt or with no ambition for anything. Of those who consider having kids (me included) factoring in the advantages of the partners genes plays some role. (I wanted someone with a family history of good hair and good eyesight, for instance, to counter balance my family genes).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:12 PM
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"Love" has always been confused with or made complicated by horniness. In the past, stifling ones libidio till marriage must have made that so much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:57 PM
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You said "So they marry for security." The "so they" implies it follows logically from my statement which is defintiely does not. And, no, I do not think they marry for security or that I said any such thing unless, by "security," you mean the comfort of being loved and committed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:54 PM
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I can only speak for the women I know most of which are in grad school so I don't know how representative they are of women in general. That said, four of the women are with boyfriends/partners that they do and will massively outearn. They like them as friends who are fun and clever and do not add to their stress. One of the couples is saying he will be a house husband and primary care giver while she is a lawyer. The others aren't looking to have kids ever and so care less about his earnings an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:38 PM
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How do you read that? Do you not think children are better raised with two parents in their life and being able to form a lifetime bond with both of them? More like I said that women marry because they like someone and if they want children, they want the best for their future children. But, go on and make it manipulative and ugly and women = bad, men are their poor helpless victims, if you must. That's what we do here, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:21 PM
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I don't either. It certainly isn't romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:11 PM
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Sure it is. Women who find a man they want for a lifetime monogamously marry. Often this may involve a desire to have a child with that man which argues for more of a legal time than a casual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:10 PM
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I am missing the connection to "women don't need men anymore?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:08 PM
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I've noticed a tendency to read the worst interpretations into lots of slogans - "Believe Women" does not imply "Don't believe men" or "Women are never wrong" or "Men are always rapists." "Black lives matter" doesn't mean "White lives don't matter." "Defund Police" doesn't mean "Abolish police." I always took "Women don't need men any more" to be a very positive statement that women can now choose men and choose based on actually liking them. That seems really positive for developing relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:02 PM
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Or not. But if they don't need to lock him down for resources or emotional needs and aren't possessive, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:58 PM
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Nah. If a new development allowed humans to get energy solely from the sun, then humans would no longer need food. That doesn't mean humans valued food solely for the energy it gave nor does it mean that food would no longer be tasty and worth eating ... if it was actually really good and suited the person's taste pallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:56 PM
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Would this not have the benefit that relationships no longer have to be transactional? I would not want to be in a relationship based on a person's need to find financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:46 PM
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Yes, birth control can fail though it is extremely rare when both parties are using birth control. Yes, men get raped. Yes, women can change their mind, by which I presume you mean promise to get an abortion and then not do so. Men also can change their minds, by which I mean, promise to support an unexpected pregnancy and then choose not to do so. Consent to sex IS consent to possibly starting a pregnancy (assuming PIV, not oral or othr non reproductive sex). Women have the risk of the pregancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:29 PM
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This depends on the country you are in or apparently, even the state you are in. In the case of adoption, adopting parents very, very much do not want a surprise biological dad to show up and assert their rights, neither do judges. State agencies can and have contacted the biological father even against the mother's wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:22 PM
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Wow, you completely misread my post. I was agreeing with you that a woman who doesn't want to get pregnant should use birth control (as should a man) and that to not do so and then choose abortion (barring a choice based on health, not convenience) is an ignorant and asshole move. My point was that being an asshole is not justification for removal of bodily autonomy rights whether I personally disagree with the choice or not. This is not a gendered take. The man denying his kidney to his child i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:15 PM
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I can't speak for wherever yo live but where I live, the biological father gets first option in adoption and must sign away his parental rights for the child to be adopted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:01 AM
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Yes, of course my personal feeling is a woman who doesn't want to get pregnant should take active precautions to not get pregnant. However, as a matter of legality, bodily autonomy is sacrosanct. A father whose child needs a kidney can not be compelled to give the kid a kidney, legally. Do I think he is a shit father if he doesn't? Absolutely. But legally, his kidney is his kidney and neither the gov't, his kid or the kid's mom should be able to force him to accept the violation of physical auto…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:00 AM
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Woman can choose to abort even if the man wants it -> he has no control over the fate of his child her body Woman chooses not to abort even if the man doesn't want to become a father -> he has no control over his life they are both financially liable for the child they created together Woman doesn't want to become a mother, she can abort -> she is in control of her life her body Woman wants to become a mother and does not abort -> also in control of her body and financially liable for the child …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:03 PM
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If a single mother gives the child up for adoption, and the biological father also has waived his parental rights and then they are both "off the hook" for child support payments. The adopting couple (usually) are the legal parents and responsible financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:56 PM
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A man who doesn't want a pregnancy just needs to put on a condom. To not do so is tacit agreement to a pregnancy that is beyond his control. I agree that anyone in engaging in sex should first have a conversation about what their intent is if a pregnancy arises so that each can decide whether they can live with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:49 PM
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Hell, we can't even get every man to put on a condom if they don't want a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:46 PM
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Good distinction. "Deserve" implies a karmic balance or some type of real or implied contract. There is no contract or understanding that "if I'm a good person, someone will love me." That said, though I love the nuance of meaning inherent in the complicated English language, this is all probably a case of most of us in potential agreement but understanding of words getting in the way. If above redditors were suggesting they were "worthy" of love because they are nice and decent and have value, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:05 AM
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Or that those women don't want to pair up? Or that many of those unmarried women are divorced for all kinds of reasons? Or that some of them are lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:59 AM
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Except they demonstrably DO engage with the dissatisfaction by asking what the complainer wants or thinks can be done about it and the rare attempt at a suggestions offered is always some form of force women to ignore Chad and fuck them instead. But mostly, there is no suggestion, just a complaint that it is all women's fault. What is there to engage with? "Deeply sad about those who are ugly and unsuccessful in the dating market?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:54 AM
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There was a long discussion earlier this week with OP stating that the dating market is unfair and if women and feminists weren't so dishonest, they would admit it and should fix it. No plan offered as to what "fixing it" looked like but the logical implication was women should be made to lower their standards and partner up for the good of the country and to be "fair."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:50 AM
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Ah. Is it "comphet" that most men want to have sex with women? If not what is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:07 AM
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the prostate gonna prostate Is a sensitive prostate gay? I wouldn't have thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:02 AM
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By being a dick, you absollutely confirm the "feminist narrative" that boys are emotional, aggrssive, bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:16 PM
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You must be fun at partiesl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:15 PM
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You do understand that all the normal people seeing you act like this is going to find the feminist argument very convincing after such performance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:40 PM
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Win what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:37 PM
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Diabolical!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:31 PM
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It's all in the "men should react in kind" and in the reactionary nature of it. It screams "that'll show 'em!" when, in fact, it would be giving the "them" exactly what they are asking for. If your comment suggested men should "de-center women" because it is exhausting and demoralizing to focus on them so it would be better for men's health but that isn't how it is coming across. It's coming across "THEY STARTED IT!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:56 PM
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Great post. No notes. Thankyou.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:51 PM
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I would like info on those who identify as "Ace." Also, I see a lot more people around me just not being interested in sex. Was it always like that, I wonder?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:28 PM
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Men are the net highest tax payers Because they are still the highest earners. This data is changing real time. men being disadvantaged by society In the logic of this sub, it is biology disadvantaging men whereas society has, at least until very, very recently, very much advantaged men by imposing heteronormative pair bonding with male dominance physically, religiously, and legally imposed. Sex demographics for humans are basically equal and women and men need each other to make the next genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:06 PM
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society as we know it doesn’t function when women are this free. Are you seriously suggesting we should preserve a society that can only function if half of it is denied their freedom and autonomy so the other half can fuck them? Or are you arguing that we better get busy and find a solution that supports freedom and yet can thrive? I'm for the second. If the natural order is for functioning social groups and society to be built from a sex ratio of more women than men, and the unchosen men who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:52 PM
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Are you saying that women will not tolerate a "taboo" solution meaning one that requires them to give up their freedom and autonomy to coerce them to partner up with men they do not want to and bear children they do not want and women say they would rather let society die than do so, and that they do not trust police and those in power to wield that power? And your take is that they can't see the negative outcomes? Dude, wouldn't you refuse that "deal" and say "fuck society" also? Also, a note, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:41 PM
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Are these male Brazilian Bikini Waxers hot? Because, I think there could be a market for it. Alternatively, is the implication that 50% of the qualified applicants for Brazilian Bikini Waxer openings are men but they aren't getting 50% of the jobs so DEI had to save them and impose legal quotas? Because, damn, Fox is really off the rails with this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:05 PM
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Who is forcing women to take their pants off and get a Brazilian????? This sounds like Geneva Convention shit, if true!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:02 PM
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Not sure how that makes dating "fair" for men. This seems more like "how can society pay to make unattractive people more physically attractive." Banning PDA so single people don't feel bad sure is a proposal of some sort. Probably good to ban love songs, romantic movies, cohabitation, tables for two at restaurants, dancing in a partnered configuration, etc, while you are at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:57 PM
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OP wants to have a conversation about BP and feminists not wanting to have a conversation about things that are destructive to society. He doesn't want to propose solutions and have conversations about solutions to things that are destructive to society. And yes, that sure sounds like a long winded way to say he has no solutions why won't women and BP'ers fix this for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:49 PM
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Hard to get to the date level and demonstrating the personality if you are stuck on smelly and can't dress. But, yeah, if you are clean, groomed, and dressed to a socially minimum attactiveness level and particularly if you are average or above in fitness and still not getting dates, then it is time to consider what is or isn't attractive about your personality and authenticity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:15 PM
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Even if one feels looks aren't that important, if the majority of young people date via OLD, what else is there other than looks to go on? Its the medium that is really driving looks as the most important factor. That said, when it comes to considerations of having a family with someone, it would be stupid not to consider genes. This is why all of my athletic guy friends looked for athletic girlfriends. It wasn't because they wanted to shoot hoops with a future wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:10 PM
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Not to mention, "I've seen you around quite a few times, it seems like we have a similar interest/schedule/job/etc" is a hella better opening line than the equivalent of "Hi stranger, you make my dick interested and your breasts look great, wanna go have an awkward dinner together just the two of us and then come back to my basement and let me fuck you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:34 PM
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How very tit for tat of you. I'm sure that will get men exactly what they want. See, the difference is, the militanat feminists who push this don't want men. They don't like them, don't need them, and their pussy don't crave cock. OTOH, the men seem to be desperate for pussy. Telling them to give women what the feminists supposedly give men is not going to get them pussy, quiet their sex drive, or soothe their loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:31 PM
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OP claims men want to "lock down women to pass on their genes." I think I know one guy who actually wants kids (but he isn't going to have them because of money). OP also claims women don't want "sexual exclusivity" but men do. Honestly, makes me wonder who he hanging around with to get this world view. It sounds like a viewpoint taken solely from tiktok hoes and religious incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:28 PM
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But isn't that how we got where we are - women (feminists) turning away from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:15 PM
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I've never heard anyone else claim "women are the 'ho' gender" before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:11 PM
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I understand that meeting people and establishing a connection is difficult and the "rules" are not clear and often conflicting. I understand times are changing and people want different things and there is frustration. I do not understand what purpose it serves to place blame or to continually react as if there is a "gender war" and piss off the very people one wants to like you. Cold approaching never worked well particularly if copious amounts of alcohol were not involved. Short of match make…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:36 PM
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They are not. "Cold Approach" implies strangers with no connection. Asking someone out when you have attended classes with them or whatever is only a "cold approach" if you do it the first time you've met and seen each other. The difference is having something in common already established and some sort of bona fides and situational background already established. That person you meet in college is known to almost certainly be in a certain age range with certain common goals and a likely range o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:23 PM
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I'm a feminist who never heard of this Rose person. If feminism is a cult, they missed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:35 PM
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No? Are you the dude who keeps equating "submission" with bottoming? There is a reason there are different terms for D/s and topping/bottoming. And, in this convo, OP was not speaking about sexual positins or sex and neither is anybody else except you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:21 PM
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Equating sexual postions with dominant and submissive personality outside of sex is weird and not very aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:14 PM
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If people submit to power, it is likely a fear response. That isn't healthy in a romantic or familial relationship. Submission is better based on respect than fear. I'm sure we can all imagine someone powerful that we do not respect and would not submit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:10 PM
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If a woman has to make themselves smaller in order to "elevate" the man then the submission is artificial and mismatched and the man does not deserve it. Consider a boss that makes shitty decisions, is erratic, unfair, and never gives a deserved raise to employees. Do they deserve respect, deference, and submission? Nope, the position might deserve those things but only for so long as an employee needs to find a better work environment and a boss worthy of working for. If one is going to embrace…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:07 PM
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"Work" can be more difficult but it is M-F, and 9-5. SAHM is 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:38 PM
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This is very fair of you. I know I would love to have someone cook and clean and be the one to do the bulk of raising family but I'd hate the full responsibility of and stress of financing that all on my own with no backup. It sure stressed my father out and they only found late in life that mom loved working and was very good at it while he was a much better cook. I sure wish he had been in my life more as a parent, too, instead of working long hours to support six people all by himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:36 PM
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OP should also posit the question: If it were found that men who did all the household chores lived longer, would they do them? Oh, oh, heres another one: If it were found that men who partnered with women with more sexual experience had better sex lives and were less likely to get a divorce, would men choose women with experience? Or, if it were found that exercising regularly and eating healthy leads to longer life would everyone do it? Geez, people like what they like and long term rewards fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:36 AM
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It wasn't a "general comment" it was a "generalizing comment." If it was a "general comment" it would have been phrased like "generally speaking ..." or "some women ..." Let's test this out, be fair and serious: I post a comment that says "Men are wannabe rapists because they suck at convincing women to sleep with them probably because they have small penis' and are bad in bed." OBVIOUSLY, I mean just some men, amiright? SURELY no men would be offended when I clearly was speaking generally and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:17 PM
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Yes, yes I really would. Not because it shouldn't be allowed. Each to his own. But I'd wonder if the woman was a fool, insecure, lazy, short sighted, and transactional. Not anything I'm going to admire or encourage. Mind you, different rules apply under the circumstance of making and raising babies. Given one partner has the physical load and that can't be shifted, it would be unwise to go on such a journey with a man who could not or would not take on the temporary extra burden of providing whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:12 PM
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Because communication, well, communicates and what you communicated was an "all women = bad thing" and suggested they'd be better if they'd "submit to what I want." Dude, that's offensive worse than a Gillete Ad or the term "masculine toxicity." But "why can't you just assume what I really meant was a nice, helpful, fair thing?" As someone who often sticks my foot in it unintentionally, may I suggest that if one doesn't want people to take offense, try to learn diplomacy, don't say things rudely…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:55 PM
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Given that my preferred lifestyle is the norm and default in the modern western world, I don't think it is technically correct to call it a kink but if you want to suggest that modern partnerships between equals consented to by both partners is an aberration ("kink') compared to say, the Taliban influenced cultures, then, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:50 PM
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Submission is about 1) accepting what comes along with your role within the relationship, and 2) being willing to put someone else ahead of yourself. Oh, don't misunderstand, I get that, but you negotiate your D/s kink lifestyle contract between yourself and your consenting sub, dude. Don't project that on all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:42 PM
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Agreed. Everyone should clean up their own specific messes. The split should be 50/50 for the maintenance routine chores, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:35 PM
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What if you could negotiate an every other week thing. Wouldn't that be interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:31 PM
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"lets her" be a person and talk to people like ... she's a person WTF? Is this some taliban shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:29 PM
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Your logic is crap. He said "if she always did what he asked" and you come up with some absurd "what if she did this one, universally understood to be unacceptable thing and you asked her not to" like it's a mastermind come back is weird. Dude was saying he wants a woman with a sense of self, a mind, a personality, not a robot who obsequiously does whatever they are told. A woman who has an opinion and can think for herself instead of dumping it all on him doesn't scare him and is his preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:28 PM
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Dude, if she just laughed at you, you are lucky she has a sense of humor. Frankly, you keep that shit up acting like you're her slave master and she is a child allowed no will of her own and "your woman" is gonna find a lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:18 PM
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This is some sharia shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:13 PM
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Ah, your mistake is the "all women" fallacy. If you have a lazy ass wife who just sits on her ass complaining about chores while you slave a way on your riding mower, and you get no benefit from your relationship other than sex, in the words of the sub: "choose better."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:10 PM
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They also wanted sex and homecooked meals. Cooks and hookers are expensive and he already has to pay a cleaning lady. A girl friend would be so much cheaper if she'd just learn to be quiet and submit to his superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:06 PM
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Or cook but the being alone and sexing himself? Yeah, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:59 PM
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giving their husbands what they really want (homecooked meals a few times a week, sex a few times a week, and silence/being left alone, submission in terms of doing what he asks her to do) OPs take is women should make a sandwich, be a bang maid, shut up, and do as they are told. And your take is "can someone explain why this post offended them?" Gosh, I can't imagine why. Dude, the post is rage bait, clumsily and/or stupidly done. Probably by some child man who is missing mommy doing all the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:59 PM
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This really isn't, or shouldn't be, a gendered issue. In fact, THAT is part of the problem. When you live with somebody, there are chores to do and how, when and by whom they are done must be negotiated. Fairness suggests, one of the people involved shouldn't get shafted with doing the majority of the work particularly if the other makes more of the messes and particularly if the other dumps very personal chores anyone should do by themselves onto the other. If there is a perception of unfairnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:50 PM
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To be frank, most men are not this weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:39 PM
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I would feel similarly to, say a selfish father very legally choosing not to donate his kidney to his child in need. Understand, if the dad would die if he donated it, I would still think the dad is an asshole and sorry excuse for a father. But that is only if I believe the fetus is the same as a child. But it isn't, in much the same way as a foundation and a floorplan are not a house. There is a lot of work and resources and sustained effort that go into building a house. It is societal overrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:18 PM
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No need to be a dick, "buddy." I was pointing out the logical contradiction of men in this sub and sure as hell not arguing that women should be clueless virgins to stroke the ego of men who then bitch that they don't enjoy sex and that must be all the woman's fault, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:21 PM
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I'm curious, does it take you a long time to get off when masturbating or only when having partnered sex? Is it specifically partnered sex with a man, you think or would it be different with a woman. Is it the PIV, the distractions of another person "fumbling around" because they can't know exactly what to do and how, or is it "getting out of your head" and not worrying about how you are being perceived, or needing to focus on someone else and their pleasure, too? If anything, the longer partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:18 PM
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The problem tends to be more that, once they get their's, they are done and all but asleep and if the woman has seemed to enjoy it, that's good enough, why does she keep bothering him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:10 AM
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And with a lot of experimentation and practice which this sub finds extremely unappealing and a "red flag."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:15 PM
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But, but, then how can we have our gender warz?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:12 PM
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Oh, god. Love this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:10 PM
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I think the above redditor is pretty clear that she doesn't agree with that assessment. But, if you are meeting women who "love dick" but can't get off from them, either the dick isn't the magic wand they and you think it is or it's an operator error on either or both's part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:09 PM
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I didn't get this either. Knee integrity and stamina is for kneeling submissive BJs not well known for leading a woman to orgasm. Perhaps he meant glutes and hams and is under the assumption the most likely path to a woman's orgasm is riding dick vigorously? More like a quicker path would be for her to just rub one out on a firm thigh, a face, or pillow for that matter. Is this the sex he really wants? It seems more like he wants someone to bounce on his dick so he can take a break and then swoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:04 PM
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which I believe to be the main field of erotic expertise for people who write posts like this. Damn. A hit, a veritable hit. As for the orgasm gap, as someone whose refractory period is about 3 min max and once I get started, I want to go again ... and again, the gap is real and there are those who find it intimidating and immasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:54 PM
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It probably is the same for women. Many women who can get themselves off predictably and quickly (and multiple times) still like to have partnered sex. But, for some reason, men are more likely to orgasm during partnered sex than women. I have no idea why and I disagree with OP that it is all women's fault for not trying just as I disagree with any woman who claims it's all men's fault for not being interested in their partner's pleasure or any good at sex. There is some truth in both claims som…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:46 PM
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I think even men eventually come to this conclusion. If they have a dead fish for a sex partner, masturbation becomes the better option. OP could have written an amazing post if he had just said, a good partner is one who is enthusiastically participatory, knows what makes her feel good and doesn't expect her partner to figure it out on his own and take full responsibility for it. But then, that would fly in the face of all the posts here that claim they want a young, low n-count lover and anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:32 PM
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There are definitely men who love to give oral sex, but, across the population, my money is on men definitely expecting oral (whether they get it regularly or not) and considering giving it to be "extra" and praise worthy. That said, of the men who give oral compared to the women, I bet a higher percentage of them men truly enjoy it while many women are doing what is expected and could do without it. I'm for enthusiastic consent and anyone who doesn't like to give (or receive, for that matter) c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:25 PM
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That thing? Does it rhyme with "More say?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:14 PM
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Try activities that result in repeated meetings of people (clubs, hobbies, church, political participation etc). Cold approaching a stranger who has never even seen you before and with no introduction of mutual aquaintenc is likely to be considered "creepy" and risky by the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:05 PM
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This is the most reasonable and practical RP advice I think I've ever seen. People who are unhappy in a relationship and do not want to bring up the exact complaint (or do not understand what their exact complaint might be) will often translate that frustration into the immediate and often less important irritant. Oddly this is probably even more likely if they want to make the relationship work. It is very challenging to, say, bring up ones lack of fullfillment in sex, but so, so easy and "fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:41 PM
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The reality is people are different and want and need different things. I submit, there are some women who want this RP vision and some men who also prefer this kind of a relationship and can deliver it. Similarly, there are some women and men for whom this Red Pill world view or personas is a bad fit and OP's version of successful partners is superior. In fact, I'm sure there is a wide variety of compatibility models and quirks. Thats one of the things that makes and has always made finding lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:22 PM
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On the rape/domestic abuse issue, I had been convinced by this sub that women/dems/libs/whatever never acknowledge that men get abused, too. Yet, listening to NPR today, I hear about a drive to support domestic abuse victims and it explicitly nods to the 1:7 men who are in or have been in abusive situations so, I'm going to take claims of disinterest or lack of support as the usual hyperbolic whining from now on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:55 PM
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Funny, I was hoping he's old, very old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:18 PM
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And then, there is always pegging. I get the impression redditor above is a bit constrained and limited in his repertoire and strictly limited to "dick gets hard, dick pushes in and out of vagina." It's work, and it's hard work, and its a man's work as god so ordained. (eyeroll)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:06 PM
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because they have to depend on the other person to do anything or to make it happen. If you're not depending on your sex partner to do anything, then I can see where you got your attitude about women and sex as something done to them. However, most of us, of either sex, want a participatory partner. It is actually possible to rub one off on my partner while they just lay there and, I'll admit, it was a fun teasy game once or twice, so, it's not like your statement has any truth in it at all. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:02 PM
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And often, we are "topping from the bottom."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:18 PM
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based on the fact that you mostly recieve and are passive I find it hysterical that, for instance, in the case of oral sex, a woman who gives it to a man is considered to be engaged in a submisive act of receiving but also, a woman who gets it is also considered to be engaged in a submissive act of receiving. Makes me think it's a matter of perception not actuality. One might, for instance, percieve a man engaged in PIV to be losing himself inside her body, or to be getting swallowed up by her m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:16 PM
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but all women are desired and valued to some extent That extent being their willingness to be a more or less consenting warm wet hole? Oh, yay? Double yay when allowing yourself to be the receiver of such attention makes you, in fact, less valued and desired. I know men think this is a great and unfair deal for women but if men could get fucked by numerous partners including a few above their "looks match" and reasonable "pull" sphere, but the sex would almost certainly be guaranteed to be non o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:23 PM
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I'm sure there must be tens of women who are "confident in their inherent value and desirability" Perhaps there are hundreds who say so publicly on the premise that "fake it till you make it." But the rest worry often to incessentaly and are normal insecure to neurotically insecure about their value and desirability. At your next session, you are correct that it would be weird and lacking in appropriate self awareness to discuss your concern that women who watch lesbian porn appear unaware they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:14 PM
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Not to mention, it's hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:01 PM
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Women aren't attracted to feminist men, they are attracted to hot men? All the women I know are attracted to hot feminist men and not so much by hot misogynists, though, a few drinks can lead to an occassional short term exception if he is extra hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:18 AM
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So, the common thread is "attractive?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:16 AM
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They will see him and see that everything he says works, Except his dick and his balls? Dude admits his "looksmaxing" efforts have made him impotent. Now, maybe some women out there are looking for a pretty boy who can't shag but I would think that would get old and pitiful in about 3 dates max. If young boys think shriveling their "manhood" is what it takes to be an attractive man, who very, very ironic that they will be solving the crisis of too many women chasing too few "Chads" by making the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:49 PM
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This dude admittedly "looksmaxed" himself into impotence. So what was the point? He seems to prioritize the attention of young men far more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:43 PM
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Didn't Clavical say he can't get it up anymore because of the drugs he uses?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:39 PM
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Insightful identification of a gender "grass is greener on the other side" issue. Unattractive men want the "easy mode" of being gorgeous and not having to work to get sexual attention. Women, particularly unattractive women, want an opportunity to be noticed for someting other than the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:38 PM
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Hate to break it to you but I hear "The Warriors Dynasty" and it's either a juvenile fic about anthropomorphised cats or a C-drama with Chinese warriors in long wigs and bad special effects, probably B-L.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:53 AM
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Never heard of him till OP's weirdo rant. Cannot believe OP is using the example of rich famous person and some guy to extrapolate proof for RP. Yeah, like I'm Megan D. S. or he is Klay what's his name whom I've never heard of but he must have had something going for him to be dating Megan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:51 AM
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Does it need to be exactly the same? The point of the comparison is what circumstances constitute a charge of "using." And it works for that, does it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:27 PM
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This has been my experience, also. However, men on this sub routinely complain about it and women using them for a free meal so It makes a good comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:25 PM
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This statement is incorrect. Proof, me. A woman who goes on a date just to get a free meal is using the person paying. There, you go. Revise your world view and carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:58 PM
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If the man voluntarily pays for the date, she isn't using him for a free meal even if that is all she wanted and she has no interest in him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:23 PM
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Worst vs worst, the red pill guy says women are hypergamous, manipulative, and men should not be naive. You have some decent points but your example of the worst of the red and black pills is nothing like the worst or most extreme. You are comparing the most milquetoast concepts of those communities an their philosophies to the worst of feminism. What you are correct about is that, in the recent past, some of feminism's extreme takes (the men = bad shit) have gained some traction and visibility …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:54 AM
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Yeah, "females" should be grateful we don't rape 'em all the time and shut up about this equality thing. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:03 PM
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I assure you, marrying someone is utterly life changing and 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:57 AM
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Devout Catholics get divorced less than the national divorce rate, so do married gay men. You gonna become a devout Catholic and/or gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:47 AM
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"feminist ideology" = belief women should should be able to get a job and an education and use contraception? Yep, I'm all for it, then. If humanity can't figure out how to thrive with treating women as human beings than, fuck it. Time for the next species to give it a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:46 AM
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Manliest man take that ever took!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:38 AM
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Refine your initial post then, please. You asked "why do women ..." not "why do short women ..."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:58 PM
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Short women mating with short men make short children. I would say, if height is inherently higher value, then short women should mate tall men and short men should mate tall men. Biological programming for the improvement of the gene line.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:57 PM
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What is there to like? Attractive, nope. Intelligent, nope. Kind, nope. Financially comfortable, nope. Interesting, nope. Your schtick is "I'm short and I hate women." That's what you got and that's a dime a dozen, also not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:52 PM
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Those women over 30 are married to men over 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:33 PM
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When women are looking to date, they're going to date the guys who make moves, who make them feel a certain way. The guys who flirt. The guys who tease them occasionally, but signal interest. Not the wallflower who silently goes home and fantasizes about marrying her, but is too afraid to talk to her IRL, or only has basic polite conversation with her and becomes her "friend." THIS. You date the ones you can find, the ones who are available. It matters not if there is a better option if you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:23 PM
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Competence is extremely sexy. Lack of competence is a libido killer. It is much easier to be horny for someone you admire than someone you do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:19 PM
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The obvious solution to your "Secondly" point is to have a gender switching sex bot for satisfactory joint use. It isn't "my bot" it's "our bot."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:23 PM
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Nah. More likely to keep chasing the illusive "O" under the hope that the previous ONS just wasn't that good at it. That's also the danger of marrying a virgin and not making sure the sex is as good as she has been led to believe it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:57 PM
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There have been multiple women here who work in education arguing that boys don't get discriminated against in education. ...They did not give a shit. It has nothing to do with people whining about getting laid. They just don't care about men/boys. "They" maybe just don't care but it is quite a stretch to say women in general do not. As the parent of both a boy and a girl, you better believe I give a shit as do all mothers. As a former highschool teacher, you better believe I give a shit as do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:32 PM
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Dude, your outlook on life is unneccessarily grim. If you get a perverse pleasure out of that kind of melodrama and dooming, you do you but if it's bringing you down, in the most positive way, reach out and find help. It doesn't have to be like that and you are living in a prison of your own making.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:16 PM
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No fucking way am I diving deeper into the brain or post history of someone who thinks god is telling him to subjugate women. If I don't pace myself, I start getting jaded and having to fight harder against the illogic of "all men = bad." Dude is a mess and god bless any woman who gets stuck with him but he isn't all men or even most, thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:52 PM
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Of course it is! If it supports your own superiority, it is godly and logical! Anything else is the devil's work, for sure, for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:49 PM
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if boys knew how to build their case and whine to adults that they were being shafted Yes, plz. Many people would listen if the case for being shafted was explained and wasn't drowned by the drumbeat message: "I'm not getting laid and it's women's fault, now fix it." Of the few clearly explained complaints I have heard: On line dating sucks, particularly for men. This is because on line dating emphasizes looks as the primary value, and promotes sex over relationships. More men use OLD than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:47 PM
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Fascinating. And if your god should publish a new memo telling you the way to have a funcitioning society is for you to subjugate yourself to women, you gonna bow twice and comply because it isn't too holy to only go along with your religion because it benefits you and your self importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:21 PM
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Nah, I'm pretty sure dude is just making up shit and has sipped too much of the religious koolaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:18 PM
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If you are going to be a fringe religious paternalistic nutter, OP is absolutely correct, go find your match amongst fringe submissive nutters. Why keep dissappointing yourself and turning your dates off men, entirely, then coming to reddit and whining about "all women" while pretending to speak for "all men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:15 PM
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Redditor above extremely ironically underscored OP's point. If you are a weirdo looking for weird shit, date a similarly inclined weirdo instead of whining about all women or making sweeping statements that all men want the same weird shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:13 PM
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trying make women understand that being a virgin and taking care of your husband is the holy thing to do. Do it for Jesus, ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:58 PM
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"majority" means > 50% not 80% and you need to reread your quote, you missed the "when fathers actually push for custody" part. That shared custudy is currently 30-35% isn't meaningful without knowing how many fathers who didn't get shared custudy were asking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:19 PM
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Do most men think women are just born with the knowledge of how to pick up their underware, do laundry, make a meal, and wash dishes? Personally, I have every confidence that men can figure out these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:14 PM
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And the same are paranoid and pissed that when you divorce them, you will take "most of their assets" and they will have to pay child support to you (because they didn't want primary custudy and having to struggle to do both a job and raise the kids).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:12 PM
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Obvious solution to this problem is for most men to take up the role of primarily raising their children from the moment they are born, and for men to work as a collective (hive-mind) to program the children in a way that benefits men as a whole. I support this effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:08 PM
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Let me try your technique: If men won't defend women, why should women feel sorry for men where "feel sorry for" means "give them pussy."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:59 PM
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If it's no alimony, it's child support or having most of you assets taken from you It isn't alimony it is a division of marital assets of both parties. It is not and cannot be "most of you assets" unless, I guess, you agree to that for some reason. Community property is half, not "most." As for child support, if you don't want to have children, don't have them. If you don't want to raise them, then you'll have to pay someone else to do so. If you don't want to pay someone else, then you will hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:55 PM
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Google says: Less then 10 percent of divorces involve alimony. It is only a factor when the two have vastly different income/wealth (your Robin Williams of many years ago), for marriages of consideraly duration, and usually negotiated (rather than, say half of all marital property) NOT court ordered. It is also noteworthy that the number of women who outearn husbands is contributing to the rise of women paying men (alimony or half of marital assets and also child support) is on the rise. Now, un…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:28 PM
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What I say outlines a general principle men should apply to women as a demographic despite their personal relationships This is why you would be (rightly) labeled a misogynist. Advocating a general principle advocating of not "harboring even general goodwill" towards an entire gender because, well, frankly because you're butt hurt, I guess, and "despite" literallly knowing and living with women for whom you know that general principle doesn't and shouldn't apply is just adding to the hate and di…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:17 PM
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How fast is Japan falling apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:07 PM
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Thankyou for such a good response. The temperature definitely needs to be turned down but it seems unlikely that insisting on just one gender to stop being a dick/bitch is going to have any effect at all. All of the algorithms of modern online communication are powerfully arrayed against detente. The only solution is for individuals to get fucking tired of it and realize they are being played into extremism not by the opposite sex but by the worst of both sexes stirring the pot and being elevate…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:06 PM
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I also would like to know what would demonstrate women caring about men's problems. The only specifics I have seen mentioned are: - the draft (which all the women I know think should be abolished and if not abolished that women should serve the nation equally and I know that Dems have proposed both of those things repeatedly) - the imbalance in the dating market which I don't know how to fix short of abandoning OLD which is used by more men then women so I would guess more women would support di…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:56 PM
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if women have shown they don't care about men's problems when they are given authority, Unestablished "If." It appears to rest solely and ridiculously on the premise that, if women I want won't ride my dick, fuck all women. Cartoonishly selfish and immature. As for why men should care, because women aren't some unrelated species. They are our mothers, grandmothers, spouses, sisters, and daughters. If you don't care about them and that the world is a fair and safe place for them to live as human …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:39 PM
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You are so locked in your own head, being your own island. The rest of us have mothers/fathers, sisters/brothers, daughters/sons, and friends. YOU may have no reason to care about anyone but yourself and your cold and warped idenitification with your demographic but the rest of us do not live in a cell of our own making.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:29 PM
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Alimony? For real? When was the last time you saw an actual case of it and not a whine on reddit? Back in grandpa's day when a man married an 18 yr old who never went to college, never held a job and spent her life pregnant, raising kids, cooking and cleaning for him, yeah, if he divorced her 40 yrs later for the young fresh secretary, he paid alimony support. As for "ihalf of the things you worked your whole life for," no, it's half of marital property, that is half of the things you both aquir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:49 PM
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I think you have a (weak) grasp of something that is often true - that women may struggle to feel desire if they do not feel desirous. A woman who feels "sexy" may slip in to attraction more easily (this would explain the responsive desire). So, yes, to some extent, a woman's sexual focus is on the female form... her own and often, her own as judged against other female forms she understands to be considered desirable. That doesn't mean women get hot FOR other women though. When women watch "Mag…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:01 PM
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Nonchalant? Hell, men on this sub are chalant as fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:05 PM
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But then it is the money they are attracted to, not the age. Do you really think Melania preferred Donald Trump if, say Trudeau had been equally available?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:20 PM
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Creepy Religious Man heard an odd sermon this Sunday morn. The 11th Commandment: Thine women shall not be allowed equality in the work place if they do not fuck the ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:57 PM
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This is absurd. Sex bots would be far more like a sex toy than a prostitute. Women's use of prostitutes is not "the only" or even a very good comparison. It is also ridiculous you pretending to understnd women's motivations when their revealed behavior to sex toys is actually something that can be verified. The answer is inherent, also in WHY men want sex bots themselves - because women don't want them or average and below men, in general. Understand, women don't want men not because they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:11 PM
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A sex bot is a sex toy. Do women or men use more sex toys? Comparing sex toys to prostitutes doesn't work. Women will have the same issues with a male prostitute as they do with a boyfriend - PIV sex rarely resulting in orgasm. Women who rarely orgasm with men often orgasm with sex toys. The weird fact of it is that a penis just doesn't hit the right spots the right ways. It's a bummer but it's nature and it goes way beyond size preferences. I cannot think of a single woman under 50 who does not…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:42 PM
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Must be an unnatural definition for femininity then if it only exists in a society where women's choices are removed. (Coincidentally, also an artificial version of 'masculinity' when it is more inherent in suppressing women than allowing men to be themselves.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:54 PM
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Good point in regards to black women in America but OP's take is still garbage with white women. No, white women did not desire their husband's more in the past and that is not why they had "7 kids."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:49 PM
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Women only wanting ambitious high earners and also prioritizing looks should indeed impact the gene pool (if true).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:48 PM
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My grandmothers and great aunts didn't hate their spouses. But they all sure hated sex - literally told me it was a duty women had to just "endure" and there was nothing to done about it. A few told me "cuddling" could be nice but that they were shocked that the "lie" was being spread that women could enjoy sex and younger people were buying into it. OP's mistake is saying women used to be more horny for sex with men. Does that really seem likely to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:35 PM
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Sexbots are more likely to be attractive and satisfying to women than men, judging by the evolution and use of sex toys. Men don't vibrate of have clitoral"rabbits," can't go all night through a woman's multiple orgasms, and always run the risk of an unwanted pregnancy and having to use painful, unappealing, or health impacting birth control options. A sex robot that is ready when a woman is, for as long as she is, and doesn't bother her when she isn't? Gold! If they can make a good cup of tea, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:29 PM
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Marital rape was also not a crime and women were societally conditioned to do "their marital duties." I'd love to know where OP got their fantasy that women were more horny for/liked men more back in the day. What a cute day dream. Maybe they should talk to grandma and great grandma and hear them tell about women being told before their wedding to "just endure it" and the jokes about looking at the ceiling and "beige, I think I'll paint the ceiling beige." My great grandmother swore it was a new…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:17 PM
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Ah. I see. So this was about taking away women's choice in who to mate with and distributing them and their ovaries to the "right" kind of men ... in order to save the world, of course. Got it. Very sane, normal, and ... paternal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:37 PM
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You'd have to shift a lot more in the culture than just axing social security. Nobody makes kids support their parents in their infirm years. And if people are having kids for that main purpose, I don't think the kids are going to be loving their parents enough to choose to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:29 PM
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Doesn't it? But, apparently, we must craft it into some absurd take about women destroying the world and never mind, men don't want to marry young and support big families either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:27 PM
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This argument is not women specific at all, though. Why not say "men have the power to destroy society" (because they control all the levers of violence and war, sure) but also because they could all go get vasectomies and refuse to create the next generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:25 PM
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Any left overs esp stir fry or noodle dish will do but my preference for breakfast is northern cuisine (less spice) or north eastern (more sour, love acidic flavors). Regular favorites are green or yellow curry for comfort, pad kra pao moo, som tum, laab, and mango sticky rice for sweet tooth,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:07 PM
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LMAO, very independent thought there. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:35 PM
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Yep, that's proper mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:33 PM
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But, but, he has a sister! And she, like does stuff!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:33 PM
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"Lack of original thought," my ass. I like Thai and I like it for breakfast. I pay for it myself with money I earned, drive the car and everything to get it! Taught myself how to cook it because my man can't cook a damn box of Kraft Mac and Cheese. And that money I earned? Well, I earned it as a military officer with a degree in Elec Engineering and a grad degree in math. (His is in History, but that is fine because, useless as that degree is, it makes for good convos). and "victimhood?" OP's si…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:32 PM
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If the argument is the women voting block could be the most powerful, why frame it as "destroy the world?" Couldn't it also be, "end war" or "save the environment" or whatever? Oh, wait, women must be blamed for everything even in advance of the bad thing happening. As old as Eve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:44 PM
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Not having children is one of them. By that argument, men all getting vasectomies or refusing to have more than two children could end society, too. Which, sure, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:42 PM
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I never heard it either but some red pill and a few other purple pill types commenting here confirm it as a (weird) thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:40 PM
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Oh, stop. It isn't only women choosing not to pop out huge families. It's men also who are noping right out of supporting a repeatedly pregnant wife and a brood of children. If that's what you want, go find it but, good luck. Frankly, if feminism is responsible for telling men, as well as women, they don't have to marry at 21 and be the sole bread winner and financial support to a pregnant and barefoot wife and a brood of continuous kids, then, thank god for feminism, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:39 PM
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Yes, they do. They just don't want to have more than two and they want help and financial stability to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:35 PM
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Your conclusion is this would motivate young people to bear the expense of child rearing???? It would definitely not. Hell, it wouldn't even much motivate people to save much more. Assisted suicide (and "assisted suicide" helped along) might jump tremendously, though. (Not enough to offset the debacle of elder care with no one to care for them, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:34 PM
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Why is this framed as "if women don't want to birth anymore?" UAE has a fertility rate below Japan and well below replacement rate. I doubt it is women making that decision, solely. It is women and men deciding not to get married till later and both deciding to prioritize housing and life style over big families. Frankly, almost all the women I know want to have a child or two but very few want more (and that's what would be needed to reach replacement levels of population). But with men, I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:32 PM
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Are you suggesting that a combination roomba, Hitachi Magic Wand, chair massage, best friend/therapist chat bot, personal cook, thats built like a comic book super hero and happily gives mani/pedis and never leaves a wet spot or it's laundry on the floor, can't give them a disease or get them unwanted pregnant, and will tell them beautiful no matter how mid or worse they look won't be like cat nip to women???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:52 PM
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Oh, god. Imagine the cleaning and sterilization requirements. [shudder] There's going to be all new and rampant health issues, aren't there?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:41 PM
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It's going to finally free them from the orgasm gap and having to share "chads." Sex toys for women have always been so much more successful than those for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:39 PM
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Way too expensive for society though, perhaps some kind of charity AI brothel might work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:37 PM
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But the catch is that women use these bots as much if not more than men. Men seem to want sexbots because it will give them a shot at having sex of a sort. Women, though, already are addicted to vibrators with rabbits and what not and such toys help them get the orgasms they aren't getting from PIV and real men. I think your prediction is absolutely correct. When and if these bots are released and at all affordable, imagine being a man and trying to compete with a "Chad" custum designed, sized a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:36 PM
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I suspect also that more women then men will be into an AI lover/housekeeper/conversationalist friend. Why share a disease carrying and relationship averse "Chad," "settle for less," risk pregnancy and cheating, etc when you can commission your very own Chad with the rabbit feature and he does all the housework, never nags for sex, never "flags" and makes brownies for after care?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:26 PM
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They sure aren't going to be affordable for the average person! Hell, a roomba, chatbot, and fleshlight combo held together with duct tape would be more than most can afford!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:18 PM
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From an engineering and hygiene perspective, it may even be easier to manufacture a robotic sex god than a sex goddess and I am not sure why men even need the AI aspect since intimacy, conversation, and therapy are reputed to be more of a draw in a relationship for women, then men. Men who just want to fuck don't need AI, they just need a suitably constructed hole that is affordable and available. I don't think it takes AI to also make a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:13 PM
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The only thing more bizarre to me than the red pilled incel types who post about longing for a sex robot is the women who keep talking to them complaining about their tedious attention. If it is really so awful to be desired by men, why in the world do you come here to agitate yourself about it? These strange unhappy creatures are not all men and not even most. You don't have to actively seek them out unless the draw is tormenting yourself and them also. But why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:08 PM
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If it helps, you will age out of that discomfort before their AI dream girl becomes a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:05 PM
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Thank god! Its the only answer to the precipitously declining birth rate that isn't dystopian as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:02 PM
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Even more women, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:00 PM
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Not likely. A non "smart" sex toy that is of any quality already costs hundreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:59 PM
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I'd place a bet that you are partially correct - the narcissitic and wealthy "chad types" will rent the sex bots because they will be the only one's who can afford to and are also so narcissistic that what they have been looking for is something that tells them they are the best and puts no claims on them and requires no effort. This will leave the "unwanted" men broke from paying for sex from a toy which makes them even less desirable and the women will spurn them while hypocritically chatting …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:54 PM
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Agreed. But determining strengths based on genital configuration and old stereotypes is ignorant. My dad is an amazing cook. He loves to cook and hates paperwork and finances. My mom is a truly indifferent cook and amazing manager of paper and finances. Yet, we all had to endure mom's tuna casserole and dry roast beef and Dad had to endure the drudgery of paperwork because of gender roles and expectations. Dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:43 PM
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For sure, if we could pick and choose the best of both worlds, wouldn't we all? Imagine being able to almost always orgasm from sex AND to do so multiple times. Gotta say, I'd still prefer being a man and not having to worry about getting pregnant or ever having to be pregnant and deliver, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:07 PM
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It's quite the conundrum, I agree. Sadly, your on the surface reasonable solution probably isn't any more satisfying for most couples or at least men. Obviously, the biggest issue is trust and communication. It is assumed and generally understood that monogamy and sexual exclusiveness are the norm and anything outside of that is "cheating," "hurtful," and "disgraceful." But, lets pretend we can wave a magic wand and reimagine that. You suggest part of the contract to explicity require sexual nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:49 PM
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May I ask if you would rather be a woman, than?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:43 PM
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You would think we were past it in the US but then, every election, we hear how "America isn't ready for a female president;" we see a "Secretary of War" who is a full blown warrior for the patriarchy and proud of it, we see a VP and others arguing women shouldn't have the vote and their husbands should vote for them, we see churchs splitting because of the intolerance of women as clergy, and, of course, we see women doing most of the household work and child rearing in families and it still bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:42 PM
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Nuance? For shame, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:26 PM
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What in the world do you think dating is for??? Dating is the process of getting to know someone for vetting as a possible partner, not for sex. "On LIne Dating" is not actually "dating." It is connecting people who are looking to date. If all you want is sex, who gives a shit what their "character" is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:49 PM
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As to the topic, and the "real issue" - who gives a shit about this "man/bear" meme? That there are misandrist women with extreme views is a given but they are a minority and are clearly balanced in energy and emotion by the men who waste their time obsessing about them and their perceived influence. This sub loves to elevate both groups but outside the sub? No one gives a shit or even notices except for the memes and the snickers at the absurdity of both groups. The legit concern is not whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:04 PM
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I'm not following this logic, either. Do men want their women to feel sexy and want to have sex with them or do they not? I am picturing OP having a fight with his wife who is struggling to keep her passion alive and their marriage physically fulfilling and he reacts by shaming her and accusing her of wanna be infidelity and being a whore. YIkes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:34 PM
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"know exactly what these girls are doing" Yes, those women are looking good, and that is perfectly fine but their partner is off the market and not the target so, yeah, get "protective" or maybe remind him he has his own sexy thang right there? Frankly, wouldn't it be more strange to be sexy and beautiful and then stop and tone that down once you had someone you want to appreciate it???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:31 PM
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When I get dressed, frankly, I am almost only ever thinking of what do I want to wear today (for whatever reasons and they are many and varied). Every once in awhile, I will be thinking of my partner in that consideration, usually because we are going out together and I want to not have clashes in colors and formality levels but sometimes for them to appreciate how I look. Never do I consider "other men" or "other women." It just has never occured to me before except in the most vague and genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:28 PM
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Maybe he married a sexy woman, wants her to feel sexy, and, yeah, wants to have sex with her and wants her to want to have sex with him? Maybe OP is very up tight about sex and women and owning one?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:24 PM
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This explains why some men just quit trying to look good, to romance, after they lock a woman down. (Yes, and some women too, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:21 PM
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The irony of labeling women as sensationalist and over dramatic ... from a red pilled perspective. It's like arguing Hillary Clinton shouldn't be president because woman = emotional and electing Donald Trump instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:44 PM
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also half the debt is never shared This is not accurate. Generally, assets and debt aquired DURING THE MARRIAGE are split. (Those aquired prior to the marriage are not). Perhaps you are thinking of alimony which is not very common now adays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:06 PM
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You are framing divorce settlement as a karma settling bandaid. It is not, it is the allocation of marital assets aquired during the contracted marriage. Regardless of whomever wronged whom, the assets wer acquired by the contracted entity (the husband and wife). If a wronged husband or wife wants to get revenge for being wronged, they should seek it through a different mechanism. I would tentatively suggest a clear marital contract that states, from the beginning, financial consequences of brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:59 PM
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And the value of motherhood becomes somewhat quantifiable as "nanny plus" level only, make it live in nanny, cook, housekeeper, etc and as appropriate. The average salary is $69k, and for nannies alone, it is $59k. So, basically, a SAHM is worth quite a bit more than half the average salary. If the man does a significant portion of the house keeping and child rearing, he maaaaaybe could bring SAHM value down to half his income. For comparison, daycare averages $6500 - $15.6k per child, and must …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:50 PM
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This is what I wonder about so many fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:42 PM
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Just reading that makes me desperate for a nap. And a bourbon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:41 PM
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Yes, we need more men to certify and teach. My understanding is the shit pay is the biggest barrier. It isn't women (or leftists, or Dems) who keep the pay low that keeps men away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:29 PM
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It isn't really a gender war. It's an online (mostly) endless argument between those who embrace misogyny and blame women for their life not being what they want it to be and those push back against that. Yes, there are a few "radical feminist misandrists" and, of course there are shitty people, who, say, like to go out on a date with a guy solely to get a free meal. But, without a doubt the vast majority of men and women are not embroiled in a gender greivance argument and when we seee this "ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:15 AM
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Win what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:54 PM
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"online resentment economy" Good term
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:43 PM
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It's like some of you never had a mother or a sister. Geez. Women exist. Men exist. Even in the same families and, gasp, under the same roof. The other gender is hardly some alien species with kooties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:07 AM
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justify raising women's valid fears of rape, stalking, harassment, and murder. Jesus. These are "valid fears" in the same sense as sharks in the ocean do, occassionally, snack on a swimmer. If the "valid fear" means you never stick your toe in the ocean, you are crippled by a paranoia. Get out of the water when you see a fin, sure. Maybe even avoid playing in the ocean on a vacay to Australia. But, when the fear cripples you from flying over oceans, swimming in lakes, or taking a shower, seek he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:05 AM
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That will produce nothing. Literally nothing. In one generation, society will begin the rapid decline into nonexistence. You guys are all very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:00 AM
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This is pathological and deeply weird. Unless you are unbeliedvably hot, single, and young, I can conceive that you are so overwhelmed with men interacting with you that you must demand they all stop and imply they should stop doing that for all women, even the ones not as hot and attractive as you apparently must be. If you really feel it is necessary for your well being to have men, en masse, stop engaging with women, maybe you should withdraw yourself from society rather than insist men stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:59 AM
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I was going to give an answer for this (along the lines of "assume competency, maturity, and capability until demonstrated otherwise, treat with respect, allow yourself to lean on them when you need to, etc) and then realized, waaaaaaaiiiiiiit a minute. That's how I think any adult, regardless of gender should be treated. So, got me? Maybe all of the above plus touch and admire his dick from time to time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:25 PM
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? No group "deserves" fantasy sex. How did you get that take? I'm saying the culture primes young people to believe sex is fabulous. Reality, particularly for women who often don't even orgasm during PIV or even during partnered sex with an attentive partner, often doesn't meet the hype. Do you disagree? If an activity doesn't bring the results you were conditioned to expect, it is natural to consider the issue could be a matter of technique, partner, circumstance, not finding your "soul mate" o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:37 PM
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Why in the world would you want to establish and judge what I have read for kinkiness or popularity??? Why in the world would I have any interest in allowing you to do so? Or are you asking for me to find you a recommended list of kinky material? Certainly you aren't contesting that there is everything under sun out there to be read? Perhaps you are suggesting it isn't popular, though? I'm not sure how that could be well established given the majority of readers read the most hard core material …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:54 PM
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You can find anything you want to read about and search for it in "tags." Start with what you are interested in, move on to what you are curious about, take an educational look at Dead Dove (Do Not Eat)s to establish your parameters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:55 PM
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More like younger women are searching for the fantasy sex they feel they were promised - the kind that makes you burn with passion too great to resist and swoon in ecstasy. Instead, most early sex tends to be somewhere between "nice" and "is that all there is" with some down right "ughhhh." Young women, like young men, are convinced by the culture that they are supposed to be creatures of passion and raging libidos and sex is supposed to be worth dying for it's so great. And so they may go throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:38 PM
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Look for stuff published online not published on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:26 PM
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Wait a minute ... you want virgins but just to get laid? So, not only are you not a virgin yourself, you are running around "deflowering" and "sullying" virgins casually and in your mind, devaluing them because thanks to you, they are no longer virgins? That is kinda gross, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:43 PM
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I thought Pokemon was a Pikachu or something and now they tell me this is some on line feminist who is supposedly speaking for all of us and not a little yellow cartoon thingy with a ziggy tail?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:22 AM
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The pertinent point is that extrapolation of "relationship material" by "n-count" is a terrible metric. Men claim their issue with a woman who has had multiple lovers is that she cannot "pair bond" and will be more likely to cheat on them and be immoral. Yet they also want a woman who is horny and wants to fuck, but fuck only them. Maybe they should seek more reliable data than "n-count" to get that. Like, maybe talk to her and get to know her? Ask what she wants in a relationship? Judge her cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:28 AM
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Have you considered mentioning this to the head SOW, Pete Hegseth?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:05 PM
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Only when combined with the catalyst of male rage for profit internet creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:47 PM
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When even Kiev apartments, schools and hospitals are being bombed, don't you want mothers and children to leave the war zone? Or, do you want them to sit around and get bombed to make you feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:43 PM
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LMAO, so did many men. You obviously haven't been to a European or asian country since Putin started his stupid war. They have been awash in Russian and some Ukrainian men avoiding the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:42 PM
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Thanks, already done so, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:25 PM
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I would like to see OLD required to have an initial screening with no pictures, just personality descriptions and "looking for ..." If OLD is photo driven, men, who supposedly have a broader range of what they would swipe right on vs women's range will always drive mismatched supply and demand while many men and women just get no action because they are not photogenic or attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:16 PM
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Good take. I guess, if it is true that there are fewer women who desire a male partner than men who desire a female partner, another possibility is to produce more girl babies. Sure, this is medium/long term and does no good for men today but I doubt there are any solutions at all that work quicker for future gens. Mind you, I don't know that I am convinced of the premise despite supposed studies and statistics. There sure are a lot of women around complaining about how they can't find a partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:13 PM
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Long term? We raise our sons better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:09 PM
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Also, up his tongue game and back/foot rub skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:01 AM
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and he aims for women who have strong careers or are socially impressive in some way, ambition, noticeably fit, good looking, and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:00 AM
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Yeah. That's how I read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:58 PM
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Until you are older, then you know enough to arrange marriages for your daughter's own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:56 PM
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/s I trust. Elsewise, I give your chances of a successful marriage lasting at least 3 years about 7 percent. Chances it ends because you try and find sex outside the marriage and strike out but she takes that kitchen pass and scores a better dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:48 PM
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That sounds fair enough ... if he was clear before the marriage that in the event of imbalanced sex drives, the higher libido spouse would be understood to be able to seek sex outside the marriage. If there was an understanding (and definitely if there was a vow) of fidelity, then the announcement of intended infidelity is a renogiation and grounds for dissolving the marriage contract. This is pretty much what we call an "open marriage" BTW. Not sure most men would be into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:34 PM
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This attitude fails to acknowledge sexual exploration and learning what works sexually. If a man wants to know what their partner likes and leads to mutual enthusiastic pleasure, then it presumes she has thought about that and tried a few things. It also implies a flip side - that she has figured out what doesn't work for her. For instance, If a partner has tried "butt stuff" before and found it uncomfortable or unpleasant, then why in the world would one feel entitled to nag her into doint it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:16 PM
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do you honestly think that guys with a lot of options Wait, my understanding was only Chads have options. Could this be wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:24 PM
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Are you ok with this? There is some truth in "women should choose better" but there is also a lot of truth in women and men should not tolerate the bad behavior of their own gender that helps contribute to a shitty dating and relationship market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:05 PM
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How is this "biased grading?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:33 PM
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Biased grading in their favor? Proof of that wild claim, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:22 PM
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On a survey? Hell yes people would say "yes" just to be trolls and for the LOLs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:13 PM
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maybe they don’t need extra help mogging men in education and clean/safe/white collar work What extra help do they get?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:48 PM
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You pay money to do something that disgusts you? That's fucked up. How much of it is self disgust? And do you assume the majority of "Johns" feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:01 PM
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I did not. He went on to moon after my roomate convinced she was a virgin (she was not) and "pure" because she did not like to dance, I guess. She was actually the least sexually moral woman I have ever known literally cheating on her brand new husband on their honeymoon. He then did marry a woman who did seem to be utterly inexperienced (and very young). Last I heard, they had a very messy divorce where he accused her of being "frigid" (very possible) and she posted about how inadequate their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:57 PM
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Once again, if men were "biologically" disgusted with women who have sex with multiple men, then prostitution would not be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:50 PM
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I'd say it's more an emotional response and, given that STDs are viscerally awful, "disgust" seems somewhat reasonable if applied to both sexes who indiscriminantly and incautiously fuck around.. However, the disgust is definitely more on women then men and probably has more to do with fear of getting cucked or unfavorably compared. If men actually were disgusted by women who fuck multiple men, the "oldest profession" would be hunting, not prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:45 PM
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If you don't have enough time, it is always, everyone for themselves. And the only one "spinning" is you who has yet to give a single example not out of a Hollywood movie that is "women and children first" as a policy or tradition in regular practice. You are making yourself upset over something that doesn't play a role in your life. Relax, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:18 PM
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when they are actuallt super bothered. There are actually people out there mature enough and not shackled by religion or poor self image and fear to not give a shit and many who appreciate a woman who likes sex and knows how to find pleasure in it. And, yes, there are women not take in by performative lies just as there are men who are not. You are making yourself unhappy by your perception of reality and morality and women and the saddest part is, it is completely a choice and a choice not inev…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:16 PM
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You learn to spot the ones that would have issues and avoid them so it rarely comes to a negative reaction. That said, I think it is very important to have a convo early about what one wants and expects in a potential partner and that includes relative experience (none, some, lots, epic level - actual numbers though are unnecessary and keeping track of one's own numbers is weird and very sex gamer.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:16 PM
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Alas, no. My first "lover" assumed I was not a virgin and was experienced because I had heard of oral sex and wanted to do that instead of PIV. He also took my request for using a condom as evidence I had an STD from all my imagined sex having, but, bizarrly, was absolutely convinced that, therefore, I should be "on the pill" so he didn't need to use a condom and telling him I was not was a "ploy" to convince of my innocence not actual evidence that I did not have sex before then. I have known m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:07 PM
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the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. It is the best predictor but not really that great particularly when misapplied. For instance, someone who "sowed their wild oats" in their youth is not necessarily a bad risk for faithlessness and infidelity. Whereas someone who has had one partner in the past and cheated on that partner probably is. Someone who has never had sex before actually has no data for evaluating their faithfullness but may have good data for evaluating their libi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:54 PM
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The title phrasing "Women ... [do bad thing]" implies "all" or "most" or that it is rare for them to not do "bad thing." It is appropriate to counter with, " I, a woman, do not do this bad thing. Please add this to your narrow reality and modify your world view." If someone makes a post here that "men don't care about their partners sexual satisfaction" it is also appropriate to respond, "not so fast, I (M) make sure my partner has a good time!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:47 PM
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LIke what? Sinking of a cruise ship doesn't apply anymore because they are required to have enough boats and vests, now. Evacuating the Trade Centers at 9-11 (they really didn't think they would collapse so there was "time")? Nope, it was everyone for the exits. The only place I can think of it applying (at least for previous admins that planned for things) is in an immenent warzone where the embassies put out an evacuation notice. They prioritize children (and rightly so) and non-essentials. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:50 PM
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Dude, your complaint was no "feminists" here were agreeing with OP that women (and children) should not be prioritized first. I GAVE YOU WHAT YOU ASKED FOR!!!! But now you want me to find you even more (rather than reread the posts and find them for yourself) AND acknowledge history that supposedly prioritized women and children over men historically. Please read the other posts explaining it is not a particularly strong historical precedent and is mostly attributed to the Titanic where it speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:13 PM
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So mainstream nobody but red pillers on reddit have heard of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:18 PM
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I am not pointing out the flaws in men or in women?!?!? I am pointing out that not wanting to date a "high n-count woman" and/or a bisexual man is a dating preference. If one wants to call the second a phobia, then surely the other is too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:08 PM
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Red Pill Man (you): "I notice something conspicuously missing from the replies here, feminists agreeing with op because they believe that feminism should be about equality." Feminist (Me): "not what I have read here but let me try and help you out: " I beleive adults should sacrifice for and protect the children. After that, if people need to be saved, it should be by age (younger), not gender." RPM (you): "Maybe some good feminists commented after I made my post, can you link to them? Me: See a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:04 PM
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Why do you think I think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:58 PM
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It is not obfuscated because the "push" for gynocentrism is niche not mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:31 PM
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What does that imply then, if a man's interest in a woman disappears simply because he learns she has an n-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:27 PM
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Maybe some good feminists commented after I made my post, can you link to them? Yes, yes I can. My post ... that you just read? I did not forget about registering for Selective Service which is archaic and kept in place mostly because of Congressional atrophy and inability to do anything. Dems have proposed that it extend to women, BTW. As a vet, myself, I support that with the exception that it is an equivalent service to the country, so long as fertility rates are well below replacement level …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:15 PM
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You very much just demonstrated that, yes, you were completely intending to troll and "win." And yes, you were expecting it. Congratulations for playing silly games and winning no prize at all. You have learned nothing, won over no one to your POV who wasn't already with you and also rooting for you and against women. And even those who agree with you know exactly the internet troll game you are playing (and yes, many women are playing right back at you). Good job! Also, you sound angry and trig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:06 AM
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The word "incel" wasn't invented by women to shame men, though. It was invented by men who were involuntarily celibate to describe themselves. Women use it not to describe virgins but to describe misogynists who blame women for there inability to have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:01 AM
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Where is this "women and children first" narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:57 AM
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Weird, and not what I have read here but let me try and help you out: Woman here, I beleive adults should sacrifice for and protect the children. After that, if people need to be saved, it should be by age (younger), not gender. But, I don't see this being as much of a rule as an imagined from Hollywood dramatic and noble claim. When you are on a plane that crashes into the Potomac and needs to be evacuated, nobody says "women and children first.' As for the draft, in the US, there isn't one and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:54 AM
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What situation would it even apply to? The closest correlation is a plane crash or emergency landing and they sure don't "women and children" those evacuations. What about a school active shooter - the men stayed safe outside the perimeter with their guns and the women and children just were shot and died. Yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:15 AM
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anything you say that we perceive may make us wrong or look bad Particularly if it is a generalized statement ("women" rather than "some women") that doesn't apply personally or even, perhaps generally doesn’t feel good, nope, it, in fact, feels like an unjustified attack where one is the whipping boy for someone else's bad behavior or, worse, a made up boogie man to justify someone's hate and anger of an entire sex so we derail to try to make you look bad/wrong, or dumb. Is "right back at ya" r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:04 PM
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Damn. I was going to just quote your key points and remark on the eloquence and clear articulation but found I was highlighting the whole thing. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:39 PM
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Answering for myself, if you propose a discussion couched in emotional phrasing, particularly insulting and judgemental phrasing and particularly if I am a member of the group being insulted and judged, yes, I am going to focus on responding to the insult and judgement before even attempting to address the topic because having a rational conversation with someone on a topic they are irrational and emotional about is invariably a waste of time. So, yes, if you propose a conversation with the star…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:35 PM
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LMAO. In this sub, it's more like, "Luke, I'm your father, but I want a paternity test to prove it because all women suck."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:03 PM
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This argument falls apart because most women have no interest in criminals at all and, in fact, find criminality a major red flag. That some small group of women have a fetish about it is proof of nothing other than diferrent people like different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:01 PM
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Well, yes. I only see men shaming each other about being virgins. Women aren't going to know if you are a virgin or not, unless you tell them. To the extent women definitely do not like "incels" it is not their lack of sexual activity that is what women object to. It is the incel toxic hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:27 PM
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You see a contradiction there?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:25 PM
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Huh, all the mother's I know are very different than the ones you know. Same for fathers. Of those who had demonstrable bias, it was definitely, overwhelmingly in favor of boys and men, at least once the kids were post cute to dress up stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:50 PM
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Sorry, are you responding to the right comment or is small penis size a trait only incels have so that they are synonymous? And, once again, it begs the question how a woman would know about the size of the penis of an "incel?" Regardless, it still has nothing to do with the threads topic which is sexual satisfaction not "common insults" in regards to penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:49 PM
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LMAO, no, not at all. I've been using the internet since it was invented by Al Gore (/s on that claim). I'd say you are the noob and a naive consumer if you assume the whiny corners of the internet represent the entire or a majority population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:46 PM
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women still routinely virgin shame men. It's women who do this? And "routinely?" I've only seen guys do this to other guys and strictly a high school behavior. How would women even know this about a man in order to "routinely" shame them about it? Are there hordes of virgin men somewhere running around and meeting women with the introduction, "Hi, my name is Ralph, I'm a virgin?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:05 AM
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>Men get brainwashed from birth that women are perfect princesses and they need to be their slaves, otherwise they're not "real men/gentlemen" How did I miss this? Perhaps I'm in a different generation or culture because, I never saw this. Not even a little bit. Who was doing this brainwashing? Moms? Dads? Schools? Religion? Media?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:01 AM
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We seem to be talking in adjacent but different conversations. It, indeed, does not matter who created or who uses the term because the term indicates nothing about actual dick size and less about sexual enjoyment with said person. THAT is what the conversation is about. So, that there exists a term about dick size indicating someone is over compensating for a perceived failure only supports the idea that it is men who care more, and that is the only connection to the topic. Do women prefer over…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:09 PM
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Oops. Thanks. I thought I had done that and didn't proof it. Will change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:01 PM
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I don't believe I implied that. What I did say is "small dick energy," etc are insults society has created, not women and that men seem to care much more about it then women. It is a label handed out regardless of the size of a man's dick because, usually, the person giving the insult doesn't have any knowledge of the size of the dick in question. The insult really doesn't accurately shed much light on what OP is asking which is a performance and real experience question. Do women, specifically,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:38 PM
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I won't try to simulate oral sex in some fucked up way, by for example, asking her to hold some kind of toy that is supposed to feel like mouth/throat, so i can imagine it. On the one hand, I get it. If it squicks you out, it is what it is, and everyone has a right to say "no." OTOH, no toys, no kink, no play sounds potentially like a dead bedroom in the context of long term monogamy. And that, sounds like a bad play for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:25 PM
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But there's still the risk of her actually liking it. Then either she leaves you (better outcome), or you are just the human machine powering up some dildo. Understand, you take that risk no matter what. Society has brainwashed both men and women that big dicks mean better man and better sex and the only answer to that is to not care (risky) or prove otherwise. If you are not substantially endowed, yes, odds are a partner may wonder and fantasize. If you have an attitude that your partner's plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:54 PM
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It's more about being able to satisfy my partner to the fullest Then, you'd get better answers by asking your partner, not reddit. If you meant satisfying some non-specific woman in the future that you might partner and so you are looking for an average take, then just go to an adult toy store and ask what the popular sellers are for women? They will be happy to tell you honestly and you can rule out the reddit agenda'd bias. You can confirm for yourself by just looking at what they stock the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:38 PM
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For that kind of data, just go to an "adult store" and ask what the main sellers are for the looking to use not give away as a gag gift consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:33 PM
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Nah, you care because other men care. "Dick measuring contests" are not a contest women established. To the extent women do care, they care because they also grew up adjacent to a society that holds that bigger must be better and more manly. If OP and anyone else really want hard evidence of what women care for in actual sex (not just aesthetics) go to your local adult "marital aid" store and ask what toys are the most popular for women to buy. Or, if that is too embarrassing, just go and look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:30 PM
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>I have never heard a woman mention penis size as something relevant to her enjoyment during sex. I have heard many women complain about uncomfortably too big. I have heard many women jokingly or as an insult comment on "too small" but none complain about that in terms of sexual enjoyment in their own experience. This sub suggests there are far more men who prefer big dicks then women who care (within a range of "normal"). I would also suggest, for consumers of this sub, who seem to have specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:22 PM
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OTOH, it could be quite affirming to indulge someone's fantasy of being a "size queen" and then see them face the reality that doesn't live up to the fantasy, couldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:15 PM
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No argument from me on that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:53 PM
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I agree, a woman agreeeing to have PIV without condom/vasectomy is also consenting to possible impregnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:53 PM
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should he just start assuming every girl is a dumbass ABSOLUTELY. Or at least, absolutely if he doesn't know her well. Unprotected sex when you don't want to make a baby is evidence of "dumbassery" on the part of both parties. Best to assume the person who agrees to it is ok with making a baby (or getting an STD) and protect oneself accordingly because it is stupid to have unprotected sex with casual partners (or even long term partners) if a person cannot accept the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:27 PM
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That's just extreme illiteracy Agreed, for both partners. OP is arguing about proving intent. Why couldn't the woman argue the man's intent was to impregnate if he had PIV without protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:23 PM
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And could easily avoid being so if they don't wish to be. I'll accept that a man who wears condoms during PIV sex or has a vasectomy has justification for being being suspicious when told he is a dad but for the rest, dude's, when you ejaculate in the baby-maker, why the surprise Pikachu face? Anyone who believes they are being cucked very much should not have unprotected sex, for god's sake and shouldn't even be in any kind of relationship with that partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:18 PM
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Of course but your "solution" impinges on everyone's rights, massively just to soothe your fear for something incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:14 PM
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"just to solve a problem" that is almost non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:12 PM
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Literally. The best cure for this createdproblem and fantasy solution would be for these guys to actually get what they claim to want - attention from average women and some typically average sex as women experience it. Then, an intelligent person would think "is that all there is? I mean it is nice and all but not worth giong crazy over."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:26 AM
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It used to be a guilt trip that their blue balls would explode from too much semen if they didn't get access to a vagina, stat! Since the obvious treatment for such a terrifying condition is to rub one out and their aint no shame in it anymore, I guess, now we have to guilt women into sympathy fucks to save men from imminent drug addiction and going crazy. Anyone think that tactic will have any success? Yeah, me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:33 AM
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What are you saying? Women have mental health issues because they are hypergamous where hypergamous means they won't date mentally ill drug addicts?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:16 AM
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Did he? His sister doesn't seem to say so. She certainly didn't say he turned to drugs and developed mental illness because dhe couln't get a girlfriend. It sounds like he wasn't a terribly stable to begin with and stubborn also. But, sure, blame society and, of course women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:12 AM
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Sounds like if he was a woman he would be just fine. But because the bar is higher for men in the sexual market place, he failed. The problem is women have standards too high and don't want to date a drug addicted man with mental health issues? I thought women were supposed to "choose better?" Or, is choosing someone who isn't a drug addict with mental health issues being "hypergamous" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:52 PM
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I read the post twice and didn't see any suggestion that his issues were related to dating or there being higher standards for men then for women, though. And if men "self destruct" if they don't get sexual attention than a think we have a real surprise contender for wh is the weaker sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:48 PM
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Well articulated and very interesting history. Applying this to modern times is ridiculous but it is still interesting. Just off the top of my head, as someone else mentioned, what about the implied power when, regardless of sex, the divide is more along the lines of "boomers" vs younger gens? But, mostly, what about the implication of widespread access to guns and "leveling the playing field of violence?" Once again, thanks for your explanation without the usual reddit and PPD aggression and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:31 PM
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I thought it was the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:14 PM
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You know what you find attractive w/o having the sex. Yes and no. Depends on how you define "attractive." If you mean "not off putting physically" then, yes. But on this sub, it tends to mean, "makes my panties wet." Appearance will have some play in that but, in support of what the redditor above was saying, finding out that someone who is "mid" is a great and compatible lover might be the bigger player. I think, for at least some people, they nailed it. Others here (women) have mentioned havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:23 PM
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Millionaires should only date millionairs? Starving artists should only date hamburger flippers? Teachers should only date janitors?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:27 AM
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Well, at least adults who don't want to lose, financially, in the event it doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:39 PM
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"Upper hand" Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:38 PM
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Any man approaching a woman from my family for whatever reason would give me a motive for violence and for a fight Just to be clear, you would start a fight with someone who told your sister they seem nice and would she like to have a coffee some time? God bless your poor sisters. Everyone knows that the only reason why a man would approach a woman is because he ultimately wants to get intimate. God forbid a man want to date, get to know someone and maybe have a relationship. Third, you run grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:04 AM
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I live in a country where only men have to register for draft I bet you live in a country with an unsustainably low fertility rate, too. Although it is theoretically possible that your country might end up in an existential crisis that requires activating a draft, it is a certainty that it will end up in an existential crisis if the fertily rate continues to decline below replacement rate. Only women can make babies. It requires physical labor, health risk, energy, and resources for more than tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:43 AM
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Dude, you just proved OPs point. By your logic - women and your judgement of them cannot change. Then a woman who is not "hookup material" is not in the "hookuip material category" even if her behavior changes? Or is it only women who have hooked up some time in the past who are forever branded as "hookup material?" You understand, this is where people hearing you come to the conclusion that your world view is dick ruins women and women shouldn't have sex with those who think like this, either c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:51 PM
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You are on to something here and, surprise, surprise, it isn't just a gender specific thing. Sometimes what makes a sexual encounter great is primarily the excitement, whether it is generated by super hot looks, alcohol, the buildup of grinding on the dance floor, engaging in "the forbidden," "chemistry," or some magical mixture of the vibes of the moment. Sometimes, it's more due to the skills of the partner. And blessed is the man or woman who can find both ... and even more lucky when it is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:45 PM
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All I have seen ... This one is easy. Let me fix that for you. Best sex I have ever had is with my long term partner. (That's a part of why he is my long term partner because why would I have chosen dissappointment?)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:33 PM
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You are suggesting that using sex as a reward for, say a husband doing the dishes or whatever is a 'fundamental aspect" of women's nature? I disagree. It is just behavior employed because it is assumed to work. If it is shown not to work, it stops and something else is adopted. What makes sense to do fifty years ago doesn't always apply now adays because the environment is different and it has changed the way we behave. You see, we are thinking beings that learn and adjust very, very quickly, ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:38 PM
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Wow. So, the assumption is the world, women, and men don't change in half a century? In that case, what is all this "go back to the good old days" vibe about? For that matter, I guess OLD didn't change how women and men behave, either?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:06 PM
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Is this connected to my comment? If so, is it in support or a counter? It seems like we are both saying men and women want to decouple marriage from the start of their libido acting up and it has consequences, like having sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:02 PM
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I think that is some very smart insight on the emotional safety issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:53 PM
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I don't know who this Esther is, but, maybe don't date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:52 PM
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It's like you were writing my life, here. I would add it IS possible to get past this slump though, and getting through it can lead to something much more balanced and comforting with deeper understanding and acceptance. The attitude that "if the sex isn't frequent and good, leave" is common and part of the problem, and, no, I don't know what the fix is in general but I'm sympathetic to both sides. Good sex is fucking amazing and I crave it but so much impacts desire and guilt, frustration, inse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:51 PM
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I would add, 20 min of begging does not constitute foreplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:40 PM
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Fucked bare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:56 PM
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the fact that many dicks will impact you differently than 1 dick is still true. Honestly don't know what you are trying to say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:34 PM
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So you aren't opposed to gender-based criticisms when they're boiled down to a single derogatory phrase, is that right? What an odd assumption. No, the dislike of insults has to do with the intent (to anger, abuse, disrespect, and provoke not communicate and understand) not the number of words involved. An insult is throwing a verbal punch. In some cases it is understandable to do so. But often, it's just being an asshole (hey, look, an ungendered insult) and in the case of gendered insults, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:31 PM
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Sure, but progress is in acknowledging the difference between want, even obsessively want, and need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:18 PM
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I know this is weird to accept but some people, apparently, just aren't particularly horny ever, not even as teens. It is said to be a growing phenomena and, as I am routinely around teens and young adults, I've seen some evidence of that though I can't say whether it is just OK now to be "ACE." As someone who had sex on the brain from the age of 13 when I didn't even understand what sex was, I also find it mind blowing that some people don't go through at least a stage of that when hormones hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:17 PM
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A problem with it? Well, it is generally used to provoke not lead to better communication and understanding so, low key, yes? That said, if a person regularly talks down to and lectures women based on some conscious or unconscious assumption that all women are stupid and he, having a penis, is smarter, then he is earning the insult and should consider reflecting on why it was awarded. Similarly, women who "women-splain" should be made aware of their annoying behavior and prejudice. Thankfully, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:11 PM
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Derogatory terms are intended to insult, so, yeah, it's kind of shitty but derogatory insults that are hypocritical and/or expose a prejudice are a special kind of shitty because they not only insult an individual who may actually deserve the attack but they insult an entire demographic. To call someone a "jerk" is one thing, to call someone a "pussy" insults not just that person but all women because of the inherent assertion that having a vagina = being a coward and weak. Calling a woman "bitc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:59 PM
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On the bright side, have we then moved on from all men "need" sex so women (who one infers do not need sex) should just give it to them charitably and dutifully to, oh no, women choose to have sex for funsies too and all the men out there saving themselves for marriage only have "run through" sluts to choose from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:23 AM
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Sex is good and healthy. Responsible sex is, I agree. Relationships are fraught with psychological baggage, though. And most of that baggage gets dumped onto and expressed in the sex part. If we can't grow up and do better about our attitudes and relationship to sex, maybe we should just all masturbate and cultivate friendships with curated cuddling and hugs at least until we can deprogram all the shit in our culture and our heads about partnered sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:19 AM
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The disconnect is in assoiciating a social activity of pleasure with immorality. Yes, cheating on a partner one is in a monogamus relationship with is immoral but why is sex itself the immorality absent those conditions? As OP said, here is an activity for giving and sharing pleasure that can be conducted in a healthy way. Why is sex "bad?" Even fighting isn't so hampered by moral judgement - boxing is celebrated, martial arts are considered almost a religious experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:10 AM
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And insecurity - wondering how they compare to all the formers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:54 PM
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Spread a little more of this around and the world would be a better place. Thankyou for being a decent human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:36 PM
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It isn't a threat, it's a consequence. A woman may have interest in a man and then hear this kind of shit and change her mind and move on to someone less unpleasant, less angry at women, and with a healthier happier attitude. Hearing a man out himself like this is the clearest red flag possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:32 PM
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That's not the problem. Most people understand and at least idealistically agree to committing to someone and being loyal to them when they are ready to commit to a forever relationship. But, most of us don't want to do the "till death do us part" thing when we first start feeling sexual urges and interest. Even those who might be ok with committing to one and only dick/pussy young are likely not to meet suitable suitors for years. Women are just supposed to shut down their libido hard until the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:23 PM
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I think "mansplaining" is fine so long as the equivalent "womansplaining" is also allowed. They are similar behaviors but slightly different because the first is condescending from a man to a woman and the second is the opposite. This is a useful distinction and can be very insightful. If some one is regularly and exclusively didactic and condescending to only one gender, it is indicative of habits and thought patterns that are telling Similarly, "toxic masculinity" as originally defined (not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:14 PM
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Yes, or insecure, or proprietary, or religious. These are not positive qualities in an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:01 PM
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And they don't thik of men as "run through." They think of men who have lots of sex much more positively and enviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:57 PM
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Can confirm something similar in LA, DC (Georgetown), and New Orleans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:36 AM
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Men shouldn't have to got out and meet other people and network to improve dating success? This is just one way and, I agree, it is the simplest, most natural way. There is a reason why the college years are often the most successful years for dating - it's because they concentrate a bunch of young single people in one area so that meeting each other is easy. Roomates and apartments populated by those groups are the same. You don't have to live in a group home but maybe think of living where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:36 AM
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I'm gonna guess that if I, a person on the internet, tell you otherwise and get upvoted and "yes, queened," are you going to call that "anecdotal" and/or lying? If so, once again, how do you come to the conclusion "most women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:58 PM
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I support you in this endeavor. The other thing where you seem to assume most women want that kind of relationship is wild,. though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:55 PM
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Using OPs own vocab, women should not be able to "dictate" their choices and there should be "consequences" if they do? Hmmmmm. Sounds shitty and creepy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:49 PM
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Apparently there should be "consequences" to correct her "dictator"ing (i.e. making her own choices).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:46 PM
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Most women say they would not have hooked up with their husbands or boyfriends, or that their husbands are not as hot as their hookups, Do they really,?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:41 PM
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Find a grown up maybe? Bonus if you find a grown up who likes to have sex with you and doesn't think of it as "servicing." Mind you, if you are negotiating a full time D/S lifestyle, so long as it is consensual, then, enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:16 PM
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put too many characters in for inclusion Only white males need role models?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:46 PM
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Could be, of course, but it is coming from the same source (this sub). Added to that, I have yet to see anyone say "I want to have sex on the first date AND I don't care what my partners 'n-count' is." Let's face it, step outside one's own gender blinders and the amalgamated message that each gender receives from the other is pretty dissonant and contradictory. That, logically, is because there is a big range of preferences and desires for each gender and no one carricature represents even a sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:24 PM
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There is "cognitive disssonance" a plenty but not where he is looking for it. The message from men is still "n counts" and "run through" and that sex devalues women but also, "why won't the femalez sex me?" and why are they offended that a stranger approaches them thinking he has a shot at "devaluing" her with his sexing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:25 PM
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No, it's half the marital assets. That's the assets of BOTH partners. It's also half of nothing if they never aquire assets which is a ridiculous percentage of Americans. Sure, in mom and grandma's time when they were socially guided out of having a "real" job and making real money, splitting marital assets meant the woman got a half share of money she didn't "earn" (which is also BS as she "earned" it by being unpaid home and child care labor as well as a personal assistant and social secretary…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:09 PM
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Cool. This "leftist" (not really, but this sub would label me such) thinks a man who isn't manly enough to take responsibility for his own actions hasn't even grown to the rank of "beta" because he is stuck in the childish and immature stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:46 PM
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Half the "marital assets" i.e. assets gained since marriage. This is not "half the assets" for most people who don't marry super young. It is also not, "half the man's assets." Anything the woman earns during the course of the marriage is part of the marital assets that are split between them, also. Yes, traditionally, the man has earned more but that is less and less so one sided with more women working and more women with college educations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:43 PM
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I thought "leftist" did support the idea of the state supporting socialized healthcare, childcare, education, child support etc? That it was conservatives who do not support those kinds of programs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:14 PM
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Make smarter choices, or you are on the hook for the child you created. Isn't this the entire point for both sexes? Are we going to pretend men don't know how babies are made and that it involves putting a penis in a vagina and ejaculating? Are we going to pretend there isn't a cheap, readily available, easy, and no side effect option for men to do this activity without actually risking creating a baby they don't want? Are we going to pretend men can't say "no" to having risky sex with a partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:11 PM
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What if the tax payer reserves the right to sterilize any man who can afford to support his own children but chooses to make the tax payer do it? Surely OP would see the fairness in that, right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:07 PM
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One would think any real conservative and any real "alpha male" would insist on supporting their progeny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:05 PM
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From what I've seen here, t's all: believe this obscure, wacko quasi science evo psych hand wavey "study" that validates my victimhood and anger, not the evidence of your "lying" eyes,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:43 PM
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if a guy was introduced to someone and it didn't work out, he has a long cooldown time to pick another and life is too short for that. Either this is just an excuse and a cop out to not network or people are planning and expecting to do some really horrid stuff while dating. Worst case, remember in middle school when friends would be so rdiculously dramatic in their friendships breaking up and making up and cliqueing and just general soap opera shit? Maybe adults should at least attempt to do be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:58 PM
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Agree completely. My only addition is this is a side effect of OLD which showcases and puts even more emphasis on a photo. BTW, it's a problem for men and women both. We filter by looks because looks is all we have to go on. Men here clearly (and wisely) want honesty, respect, integrity, and support. How do you judge that from a picture and a few text messages? The obvious solution is to meet real people face to face and get to know them. Even better if they are not total strangers and come part…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:15 PM
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No, actually, this is something that has always fascinated me for both sexes (enjoying erotica/porn of lesbians or gay men). With men, when asked "why?" the response was invariably " I love lesbians, every many should have two!" Implying, somewhat ironically that they had a fantasy of joining them in sex. Do you think women do not look at it in a similar way when they consume M/M? I am quite certain that many who consume, say Cdrama fanfic of M/M characters very much fantasize about self inserts…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:58 PM
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This take seems reasonable to me yet we see a lot of posts from guys saying they'd leave their significan't others if their interest in sex drops because they need sex and the unspoken deal was they'd get it in a relationship, otherwise, why else would they be in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:52 PM
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But does your wife know? Did she "shop around" as her momma told her and find the best guy or the first guy? Did she "kiss the frogs" and realize they were frogs until she found her "prince" and realized he was a prince not just a sufficiently not ugly, sufficiently financially established, dude who thinks he's hot stuff in bed but she is wondering "is this all there is?" while they fuck while kindly being sure to make the right noises and pretend it was great? They say most guys are surprised w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:50 PM
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I agree and so, I take "the stories we hear" with a big grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:39 PM
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And why do they "enjoy" it? Is it a voyeurism thing or a self insert thing? I think it depends very much what the M/M media is. For instance, watching "Brokeback Mountain" probably elicits a different response than consuming M/M smut fanfic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:38 PM
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Apparently, nobody who marries someone who isn't that into sex is living his best life, either. I'd go for the honorable "slut" who loves sex and is ready to commit to monogamy. The very happy sweet spot. But you "enjoy" your wife who may perform her "wifely duties" at least for a little while and just hope she doesn't have regrets and questions about whether the grass, and the dick, is better on the other side of the "fence."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:03 PM
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It's also mutual. Men don't usually age well, either. If both men and women are going to be less turned on by their aging partners, no wonder "dead bedrooms" are so common. If the relationship is based on the premise that sexual attraction is necessary, and we accept that sexual attraction will decline, why does anyone pretend to wanting a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:58 PM
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Could the prevalence of the pressure that "The clock is ticking, hurry up and settle" be why more women seek divorce then men? Did they settle early and realize later, they didn't want to be stuck forever with what they settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:54 PM
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I wonder. Women's consumption of M/M media is one of the biggest growing "fetishes" all over the world. The presumed explanation is that the side step from gender roles and power dynamics/conflicts is a relief and, hey, twice the hot guys! It's like guys who love to watch lesbians (presumably) with the understanding they are self inserting to join the fun or at least watch. I don't know many women who would tolerate anything but monogamy, but of the ones who might, at least as a fantasy, they se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:04 PM
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Agreed. A hard wired sub man would not be a good fit for me but, frankly, same for a hard wired top. I'm in it for a long relationship and variety is a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:55 PM
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I request a list of "evidence" (apparently on this sub, "evidence" = reddit stories, dubiously) from you suggesting that, of the two, it is more common for women in a monogamous relationship to request an open one, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:52 PM
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Yes, "these are the stories we hear." BTW, do you think it is a common occurrence that a woman proposes an open relationship in a formerly monogamous one? Is it almost entirely stories or is it a phenomena sufficiently common that most of us could personally verify knowing someone in this sitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:48 PM
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There is more than one "game" being played. Your's is a treasure hunt, others are in a competition, others are in it just for fun. And those games are fluid - a player can prefer one sport at one point in their lives or with one partner but a differnt one at a different time or with a different player. Sometimes they can be fluid with the same partner even. Those who want to restrict others to play only one game, only one way, and only with one person are controlling, stunted, and boring, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:52 PM
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Done. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:13 AM
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But how the hell would they know that or is it just assumed that all women have had sex with someone else on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:12 AM
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God, I feel so bad for todays young adults. I don't know if they have it harder or not but they sure think they do. With perspective, so much of it looks like just making it harder for oneself (both men and women) or maybe just an on-line twisted view of reality. I hope the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:11 AM
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Lucky you. Ask around and learn the magnificent variety that is women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:09 AM
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This isn't anything new or surprising, surely? Are you really surprised that hormones effect libido??? Given how many meds do and the entire point of hormones, it would be stranger if they did not impact some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:08 AM
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Love this Option C person. If only more men and women were like that. Wait, they are. Except here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:05 AM
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if you heavily judge her for it and care a lot about it It may come as some surprise depending on your information silo, but lots of people don't give a flying n-count and actually are thrilled to find someone who likes to fuck and isn't burdened by all kinds of artificial morality about a natural and fun act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:02 AM
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If a woman thinks a man who obsessed with "n-counts" is a potential "red flag" then this is a fast way to rule them out, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:59 AM
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So you want woman b2, which, in order to get women like her, you'd have to adopt a dark triad type of personality and then hope to get to a young women/teen like her before anybody else does and therefore before she matures out of falling for those tricks. How very Epstein of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:56 AM
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This is ridiculous. If men argue that OLD sucks women definitely would agree with them. It's the OLD sucks and that is because women are bad that gets push back. Just as men push back when women say "dating sucks and that is because men are bad." I know we all would love a world that was simple and easy to understand so that following steps 1-2-3 would get the desired results predictably but, sorry, that is not and has never been reality. The world and humans are complex and frustrating and succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:56 PM
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Apparently rather than pushing back against that nonsense, the majority here prefer to claim "women = bad." Which is annoying and childish particularly when coupled with the complaint "why wont they sex me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:51 PM
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I understand it can be an ego blow but it is only one data point and the idea that one rejection represents all women should mitigate that. I would add that it is much, much easier for a stranger to reject someone either because of their own situation (they have a boyfriend, they aren't interested in dating at all, they are busy, whatever) or for shallow reasons (where "shallow" does not mean the person is shallow but that the only thing a stranger can base their decision on are shallow things l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:19 PM
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Given TRP is based on logical tautolgies (statements that are considered always true) like "AWALT," all that is needed to logically refute them are a single example that contradicts the claim. I will grant that anecdotes on social media are unreliable and unverifiable, but, luckily the world is full of real life easily verifiable countradictions of TRP tautologies and any layman can conduct those experiments and verify those findings all on their own by ... going outside and looking around. I su…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:09 PM
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When stating a logical tautology (which TRP does with its AWALT claims) all that is needed to disprove it is a single counter example. Go out side and see a multitude of counterexamples you can verify yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:02 PM
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Is the "absudly low rate of orgasm for women" solely attributable to men (being bad at sex or selfish or whatever)? I would want to know if women are, say easily and readily orgasmic via masturbation before I blamed men for the deficiency. I know my personal experience which is that, yes, orgasm is very easy (repeatedly and multiply) via masturbation and very difficult with a partner regardless of how attentive, unselfish and accomplished the partner. The "fault" for the orgasm gap, cannot be la…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:21 AM
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But where does that state economic support come from? Presumably it comes from male drones who just work but have no reproductive options or companionship to compensate them. Why would they comply with such an arrangement? (Note: I cannot believe I am cooperating in this distopian weird exercise. I blame the wine).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:03 AM
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factors to consider: First of all, "factors" implies "facts" and though I am sure one can find "examples" of these "factors" one would have to establish these behaviors are the norm in order to extrapolate to a large group like "women" women on social media and dating apps will openly explain this dynamic of them wanting to leave their wild days behind and settle down. I thought we all at least understood that extrapolating from "some people on social media do/say" to those few people performing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:21 PM
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Is there anything to back up this theory? I can imagine women who pretend to a conservative view of a "good girl" and finding a conservative view of a "good man" concealing her wild explorations but a more liberated woman would be motivated to find a man they could trust to "let their wild thing out."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:15 AM
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Given the choice between always passively waiting to be asked out and getting frustrated when the ones who ask aren't the ones I might want, I'd choose to put my big girl pants on and ask a dude if he wanted to go get a coffee some time. Everyone here acts like this is some monumentally difficult and dangerous task. If one doesn't have the low level ego required, fake it till you make it, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:42 PM
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Of course there are crazy women. You are suggesting a crazy woman, crazy witnesses, crazy bouncers and bar staff all at once. Of course it is possible but it seems not likely to be a normal experience, you know? It would be paranoid (like women never talking to men because a rare shithead is a rapist).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:38 PM
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I don't think OP meant it felt "hot" for the guy but that people watching it awarded him cool points for effort or something like. And, no, it isn't usually what I woud call "hot" to observe, generally. That said, once or twice, I've seen a guy do it well and gracefully and still get turned down and, yeah, it was kind of impressive that he was chill, mature, and not a sad sack about it. It's pretty sad that that is the impressive rarity and not the norm. BTW, I think women should approach guys a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:48 PM
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Somehow one imagines there is more to this story than "Hi, my name is Drunk on Ramen. Would you like to dance/may I buy you a drink?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:43 PM
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wives or girlfriends do claim to love them. The issue begins when he notices that the sexual enthusiasm feels forced. How can you argue this when you state the following, also? I am 33 years old and have never had sex never been in a relationship never had a kiss. I cannot imagine what it is like. For someone who claims to avoid media references to relationship, love, and sex, because it is painful and you find it dehumanizing, you actually seem to be neck deep in second and third hand reddit co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:39 PM
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This was an interesting post and it feels honest and thoughtful, not just accusatory and angry. Thankyou. I think you are on to at least part of the issue and the changing times but I have a few comments: Do the men you love not deserve your sexual enthusiasm? You remark that the sexual enthusiasm feels forced but also that a man deserves it. That sets up inevitable conflict. Equating love to passion and libido is problematic. Your implication that women can choose to feel passion and if they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:03 PM
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But that last one isn't actally arousal. It's just getting wood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:19 PM
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Sorry dude but you are clearly implying this is a problem specific to women and that it is "every fucking time." Your prejudice is showing. Also, that is not what "non sequitur" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:53 PM
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Are you saying men don't consider a tall man to be "higher value" than a short man? Being tall comes with it's own "pretty privelege" and not just in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:52 PM
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Well, if women are mostly watching lesbian porn, then it is hardly surprising they are not as likely to be aroused (unless they are lesbians). I would recommend comparing that to m/m. I think you might be on to something in that the average woman probably would not be turned on by an average naked man whereas the reverse might work for guys. But, is the average woman turned on by a hot dude doing hot things? A lot more than seems to be acknowledged, I'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:39 PM
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"Should?" How is this a "should/not" type of conversation? In the words of the great philosopher (and grossly misapplying the wisdom) there is no "should." There is only "do" or "do not." And my guess is most people have a reflexive reaction to disliking whinging and blamegaming. But, for the sake of argument, does it matter to you if women blame men in the past (i.e. the "patriarchy") or if they blame current men, particularly implying "all men?" It matters a lot to me. I do not blame "all men"…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:34 PM
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Only a problem with women, of course. We all know men would never reflexively counter argue an unflattering opinion of men. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:23 PM
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I think the difference is when one is talking about general characteristics but then trying to paste them on to individuals. For instance, to claim most women have lower libidos than most men (probably true, right?) but then a claim suggesting an individual woman must have a lower libido because she belongs to the female demographic is quite likely to be wrong and opens up to annoying argument (annoying because it should be understood but clearly is not). And so, some women, even women in genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:22 PM
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Is this "women" or is this society in general valuing height? If there is a biological (as opposed to sociological/cultural) component of what a gender prefers as "higher value" it is because that trait either contributes to personal survival or because it is a trait desired for stronger/better offspring. For instance a short person from a short family preferring a taller mate in the hope the children will be taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:16 PM
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That is a pretty uncharitable interpretation. More like women cannot accurately imagine what the male sex drive is like. BTW, the same is obviously ture for men. There is no way to objectively compare for either sex because we are locked into our own experience. Furthermore, it is impossible to isolate out life time societal norms that actively squash women's natural sexuality much more than men's. IAdd to that there are definitely women who do, in fact have a high sex drive equivalent to men fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:54 PM
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women in general do not get aroused mentally or emotionally just by seeing someone. This is definitely not universal (I know you didn't claim it was) and I suspect it is over ascribed to. For instance, that women do not watch porn and get turned on by it as commonly as men is a fact but there could be many, many explanations for that including the fact that porn is targeted towards men and men's desires. Did women go to see "Magic Mike" for the great plot?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:44 PM
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Do you mean "unwanted" as in inconvenient arousal, arousal for someone one doesn't want to be aroused by, or hydraulic maintenance (a.k.a. not really an arousal or horniness)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:38 PM
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Like, it’s completely impossible for me to see any average woman as non-slutty Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:16 AM
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I feel empathy and sympathy for even men I don't know but it runs in inverse proportion to the amount of whinging and blaming all women for their woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:50 AM
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LMAO, I am not "falling for the PR" from anyone. Like I said, I don't know anything about this story and don't care. All I know is you think it means something that you find one attractive and not the other. I have no idea what the woman looks like and my memory of, I presume Depp (?) from the talk here, is him in a pirate get up and acting entertainginlyh annoying. Yeah, he looked dirty but maybe he cleans up good. Don't know. Don't care. These people are not at all important to me and it is la…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:55 PM
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No, I refuse to believe you are so simple that you heard someone on line say "women aren't visual and don't care about men's looks" and you actually took that as gospel. I would believe that you heard something along the lines of men are more turned on by visual porn (possible but up for some nuance given most porn is made for men and their taste). I would believe that you heard women women look for other things in a partner like "ability to provide," etc. But how can anyone have missed that gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:52 PM
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I know even less about what ever the post is referring to but clearly, if she is beautiful, and he is not, then clearly she must be the victim. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:38 PM
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Can you back that up with some statistics? Pew research has it at 52%/46% (R/D) for registered male voters. Thats a small majority and that majority disappears for unmarried men: 37%/61%. Brookings has young men at 20%/42% (R/D). I'm not saying you are wrong but I can't find any surveys for all men (as opposed to registered voters).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:33 PM
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"Go and have fun" said to women but "mind your manners creep" said to men is the worst combination for young men and that's what the left promotes. I feel like this really mixes politics with social mores and discussions. Are there really politicians and political platforms doing what you object to? Do you equate feminists with the Dem party? Yes there is cross participation but this is like equating Christians to the Republican party (at least back in a saner recent past). As for "selectively s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:14 PM
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This is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:37 PM
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Dude is so busy swiping and surfing he doesn't have time for the chatting and talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:08 PM
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I vote for that second one and would fight like hell against the first. The world has changed. Trying to impose old solutions on new conditions is not only doomed to fail and regress but also create more hate, anger and fear. We need to be brave enough, adventurous enough, and ambitious enough to find new solutions that work for the greatest number of people balancing independence and autonomy with positive cooperation. We must strive to preserve freedom, choice, justice and the pursuit of happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:02 PM
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I'm going to spit ball a theory that that data should be disaggregated for money/financial issues. My understanding is the number one reason for fights in long term relationships is money related. My bet is gay men are most likely to have relatively equal and high incomes and without the stressors of kids or future kids. Just a thought, though, I know it's fun and easy to just blame gender without any more depth to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:48 PM
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Rigid "social dynamics" are not "dynamic" and in a world that has been changing rapidly even without regard to "feminism" and equality, constructs need to be adapted. Negotiate the relationship you want. Not all women are the same and not all men are the same. How awesome that you can now find women who can be financial providers and contributors as well as "trad wives" and men who sill seek to be the "trad husband" but also men who will be a homemaker and active care giver.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:41 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:36 PM
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Caveat: no one is really prepared for the reality. Neither how amazing it can be nor how very, very much it can all just be. Kids aren't puppies you can leave in the crate for hours. But there are rewards, Incredible awards that can satisfy more than any hobby or bank balance. If a person has a lot of love to give, I highly recommend it. If one is more at a stage of loving oneself above all (I'm not condemning that, BTW) you will struggle with parenting and appreciating the wonder and miracle of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:31 PM
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The title of the thread is "The primary biological drive ..." so, yeah, I'm responding in the context of "primary." I love the idea of "happily ever after" with a romantic partner but that is not the only path to not being alone. In fact, it is not a great path to ending up not alone as someone is likely to die first. Reach out. Spouses and children are not the only connections one can or should make.,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:37 AM
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Sure, but human organisms are a bit more complex than this, dude. If it was all about survival and passing on your genes, we wouldn't smoke, play video games, invent birth control, enjoy extreme sports, do recreational drugs, refuse to pay child support, abuse spouses, get a vasectomy, etc. If human beings lived primarily to instinctively pass on their genes, we would not have below replacement fertility rates in almost every country and dropping rates even in those that arent below replacement.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:23 AM
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The life you want to live is going to be one of romantic success, you’re just a vehicle for your genes adapted to a certain niche, It is so ironic that women fighting for equality and feminism freed women from being chained to just this belief - that their only path to happiness was to find a mate and make babies - and men here are willfully embracing it at the same time. What happened to finding meaning, self worth, and rewards in other achievments and interests? As a woman, I would find a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:51 AM
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I thought the stats showed more women would refuse to date "conservatives" (MAGAzians) then those who lean politically left? What is it the right does for young men? As for the issues on this sub most complained about, the right isn't going to do away with child support or allow "financial abortions." Techbros aren't going to do away with OLD or somehow make it less of a dumpster fire. Doing away with abortion rights does not make it more likely men will get laid. And the macho culture actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:45 AM
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Do you see that it is harrassment? Do you see that someone being harrassed might reluctantly allow something just for the harrassment to end? If the person could "just say 'no'" there would be no harrassment, would there? Because, in your example, the person has "just said 'no'" ... repeatedly yet it did not work. There wishes were repeatedly ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:38 PM
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I'm not sure I understand the difficulty here? Is rape different if it was physical coercion vs verbal? Yes? Is assaul different if it is physical vs verbal? Yes? Is this a difficult concept? No. Coerced consent is not freely given consent. Harrassment in order to gain "consent" is coercion and any "agreement" achieved through coercion is not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:43 PM
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I'd say the prime biological drive is to eat and to shit. But I won't speak for you if you feel otherwise. If sex is the prime drive, I don't see what "opting out of society" does to get there and if it could do that I don't see it as a "prime biological drive" but as a "I want and if I don't get it, I quit." This idea that men have always had access to a wife and family is a rewriting of history, by the way. Didn't we just have a post about science proving only half of men have been able to pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:14 PM
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How very off putting unless your partners want to be viewed that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:45 PM
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Yeah, she's taking your dick. Other cultures found that terrifying and dominating. The whole, what if she doesn't give it back, what if she is a succubus and steals all my man juice, what if there are teeth in there? I think it isn't the act of penetrating or being penetrated but the being in charge of the act that defines the power balance. A woman who ties down and gags the man and mounts him is not "submitting" or submissive, clearly. Nor is a woman in missionary position who is telling the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:33 PM
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Is it the act though or the attitude of the partner? For instance, if a woman used you like a tissue and threw you away when she was done, would it be degrading even though she was penetrated by the dick she was riding?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:23 PM
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What if it is woman on top? Is that submissive because it is penetration?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:20 PM
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Women (and men) would both love clear communications if the truth was flattering and fantastically lovely and perfect. Since it almost always isn't, there is friction between wanting and needing truthful and honest communication in order to build trust and a real relationship and avoid someone incompatible and not wanting to hear "I'm pretty sure I just wanna fuck and, yes, that dress makes your ass look fat."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:57 PM
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Should we garnish a mother's salary to pay for the foster care system? Yes and we do. If a woman has income or wealth, the state requires child support from them if they abandon their child unless they sign away their parental rights (making the child adoptable) and even then, I'm pretty certain that does not absolve them of financial support unless the child is adoped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:07 PM
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women are advantaged and privileged. Given that women outlive men in every single country on Earth Are you arguing that a higher mortality rate in pregnancy than is necessary based on evidence from other countries shouldn't be addressed because women, overall live longer than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:59 PM
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This argument that suggests women engineer and choose polygamy is so strange to me. Why assume that? Isn't it much more likely that powerful men choose that structure and cock block weaker men? When might makes right, and women have limited agency, how is it women are the architects of mating strategy and not men? To the more timely point, if women are all riding the Chad train because they are "hypergamous," why would non-Chad men place the blame only on women for not choosing them, the <Chad, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:39 PM
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So applying that pattern over 300,000 years doesn’t prove hypergamy. It proves power and violence shaped reproduction far more than female preference ever did. Just wanted to amplify this much more obvious theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:19 PM
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I was looking into this and, apparently, either a father or mother can abaondon an infant under safe haven laws. A cursory search does not clarify how that works if both parents are not in agreement. And I wonder how that works. I also note that, according to family law, if a woman gives up her child and either the father takes custody or the child is anything but fully adopted, she must pay child support just as the father must. Taylor Swift cannot have a baby and then decide not to be a mom an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:26 AM
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Most of those kids are not adoptable, their parents have not given up their rights. For instance, if you are convicted of vehicular manslaughter and must serve some time, should your children be taken away and given to other people? There are very, very few traditional orphans (thank goodness) or women who choose to go through pregnancy and delivery but don't actually want the kid. There are, however, a lot of drug addicted parents, abusive parents, homeless parents, high maintenance special nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:11 AM
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This is a much more interesting and useful question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:01 AM
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To the extent you are correct, yes, the woman has full responsibility for dealing with the pregnancy. Once a child is born, however, it was created by two people, presumably consensually and they both have responsibilities to the child. The man neither has nor needs fairness and equality of the pregnancy. If a man were like Zeus and could carry a pregnancy in his thigh, then he would, though and if he chose to carry that child in his thigh to delivery, then the mother would have a share in respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:59 AM
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Yes, that is what I am saying. Great grandma wore long skirts and had sex in the dark. No one was seeing grannies legs or underarms. Also, her husband had no one to compare her "lack of femininity" to. Women today DO shave and wax their forearms if they are notably hairy. God bless all my Italian friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:44 PM
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Some do, many do not. It's like shaving your bikini line, most do it only if/when it is going to be exposed. But, yeah, I think you are pointing out the real reason behind why women shave at all and this is because of an impulse to exaggerate sexual dimorphism. Bodily and facail hair is associated with testosterone and masculinity. It is not "feminine." So anyone wanting to appear more feminine is more likely to remove it, at least if anyone else will see it or femininity is a big component of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:31 PM
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What an odd social circle you must have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:11 PM
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OP can relax, anyway because equality is coming! OF content and earnings generated by men is on the increase as are women consumers! Yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:10 PM
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The liklihood of success is damn close to zero, though. It's like looking at Taylor Swifts or LeBron James' careers and thinking any one could do it and make bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:06 PM
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The tend for women shaving has been going on a lot longer than women have had or chosen to have any significant access to porn. You cannot convince me that my grandma and all her church ladies ever watched porn or were influenced by anyone who did. If you want to argue women started shaving body hair as clothing trends exposed particular parts of their body, yeah, that I'd buy. Higher hem lines and silk stockings didn't work great with hairy legs, underarm hair looks weird with sleeveless tops (…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:42 PM
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I get that but I have more patience with the pace of change and how difficult that is (with good reason) for society to deal with. Women are discriminated against and oppressed in many countries and it was within living memory that women were definitely discriminated against and "oppressed" in all of our cultures and societies. It is also very clear that many are just fine with bringing back those "good ole days." That women are very sensitive, even overly sensitive to these issues seems pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:36 PM
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And the other half of the "bad faith bullshit that goes on around here" could be eliminated by men ceasing their whining? Yeah, I agree, to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:15 PM
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I think the real usefullness in that kind of data is in, I believe they call it a "horizontal" comparison. If more men in country A die of prostate cancer then in country B and health outcomes for women are similar in both countries, doesn't it suggest a possible inequality in men's health that is not related to overall health care but something else? It's a matter of disaggregating the data to shed light on whether a health outcome is due to the overall level of healthcare available or whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:55 PM
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I would think it would be useful as a comparison between countries/cultures. Obviously, it is useless as a comparison to men's pregnancy health outcomes. But if women in country A have much worse pregnancy outcomes than women in country B and particularly if health outcomes for men are equivalent in the two countries, that would be very provacative and useful information for an area that needs to be addressed, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:39 PM
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Not OP but I will barge in with my two cents. It isn't about "fault." I really don't care about that, it looks backwards not to the present or the future. For me it's about freedom to make one's own choices. If things are unequal because choices are supressed for a group of people, that, to me, is oppression and unjust and should be fixed. If groups of people are different because they freely make different choices, that is awesome. This is not a specific gender favoring stance for me, it is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:34 PM
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Women shave because of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:27 PM
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If the inequality stems from individual choices, Yes, IF. Even in the US, which is certainly more equal than many places, if a couple has kids and if there is pressure that someone stay home and take care of the children is the pressure for the father and the mother equivalent? Even if the woman has a career equally as promising as the man's? I don't think so. If there were no gendered expectations and pressure, my "feels" agree that more women would freely choose to be the parent sacrificing ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:23 PM
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That's a fact, but how does it solve any of the problems discussed here if women stop bitching? OP lost me on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:20 AM
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Dating apps are not the sum of reality, by any stretch. We already know women who use them are a minority yet you choose to define women by your perception of those on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:58 AM
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The only thing less useful than personal anecdotes is your feels and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:51 AM
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In my day to day life I meet a lot of guys who are "radicalized," super sexist, and super politically right. You are very lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:53 AM
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Goddammit. I bet women wish their sex lives were even a fraction as exciting as you pilled folks seem to fantasize they are. Where are all these millionaires, 6ft 4 male models, and pro football playing Chads an average woman gets to fuck so easily???? I have obviously moved in the wrong circles because what I saw was the six foot 2in pimply guy who was AWOL from the army and actually needed a place to hide, the pretty faced but pot bellied "model" who turned out to want to sell me insurance and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:39 AM
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LMAO, not OP but, yes and he also knows I'm with him, not with them, by choice because he was better in every way. It's a nice ego stroke for him. Does he worry I'll level up if given the opportunity? Nope. We are pretty clear on our priorities and loyalty and commitment are at the top. We are building something together that is worth more than a roll in the hay with some cute fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:34 PM
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so that you have a more secure connection with someone actually on your level, I think this is the disconnect. You assume that a woman will pine for the HVM forever more. If you meet someone who is pining for "the one that got away," then, I agree, bad bet for a relationship. BTW, this happens for even past relationships with a less than "HVM." The obvious, hyper self protective move is to date only women with very limited prior experience. But then, one should be concerned that, particularly if…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:32 PM
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Wow, dude. You have some serious anger issues. Dating you would be an absolute minefield till you work that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:26 PM
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Dating anyone high maintenance sounds like a pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:24 PM
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I had a ten year battle with the SS admin when, as a result of changing my name, they introduced an error into the records that caused the SS records to be different from the IRS records and caused an endless pain in the ass every tax season. I will not be recommending changing last names to my children particularly since they are both professionals who have reputations and history under their own name.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:14 PM
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Yet another woman assuming that all men think exactly like she does. I beg your pardon, I said "most" not "all" which was exactly in the tone YOU began the convo claiming "Most women's definition of a "good man" is what is figuratively referred to as "unicorn", So, go off with your rules for thee but not me. The key factors here are "isn't unattractive" and "has a decent job", it's telling that you tried to slip those in Telling? What is telling is that you find these standards unreasonable and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:02 PM
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I think you are referring to most women's definition of an ideal man. Yes, of course most women want a hot, wealthy, caring, and trustworthy partner who can sex them like a romance novel. TBF, most men want the same (substituting "porn star" for "romance novel" and adding "and makes a good sammich.") A "good man" is someone who treats them with respect, isn't unattractive, has a decent job, trustworthy, and is compatible sexually. That should not be a "unicorn" and if it is, then that's a real p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:43 PM
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Is this a hypothetical or are you speaking from enough repeated experience to imply an "all/most" women behavior. If all the women you meet have had sex with other guys quickly and readily but not you then it does indicate something assuming it is true and not your insecure imagination, at least. It says those women like to have sex but not with you. On the other hand, unless you are very unappealing and yet very wealthy, I cannot imagine what would explain this phenomena. May I ask, first of al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:05 AM
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Women do not have more "suitors" though. That implies men who want a longer term exclusive relationship, There are no shortage of men who are down to fuck but relatinships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:15 AM
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I think the only dysfunction is when people who want a relationship engage in early transactional sex. If what consenting adults want is no strings sex and they are responsible about it, I don't understand why that is a bad thing, even if it is harder for men to find that option then it is for women. Oh well, it is harder for women to reach the top shelf or bench press an elephant. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:21 PM
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I know of know of no woman who thinks it is at all easy to find a man for a relationship. To the extent there may be some out there, I think that the idea that is how the majority or even a significant minority of women think is way overblown and hyped in certain spaces (mostly on line spaces). Most women, in fact, seem to think the exact opposite - that finding a "good" man is almost impossible. The debate gets confused on this sub because some men are talking about a relationship while others …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:53 PM
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Are you suggesting men would quit wanting and pressing for premarital sex if women collectively said, "nope?" Haven't we been there and done that and it didn't work out? Was the current promiscuous culture really triggered more by women wanting to have sex or by men wanting to have sex? Frankly, since I believe both genders are biologically programmed to be horny starting their teens, that trying to stuff the genie back into the bottle and expect "purity" prior to marriage when we also don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:39 PM
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I love that you are responsive to your partner and inclined towards consensual. Do keep in mind your own consent is important also and to have sex without protection is to entirely sub contract your reproductive rights to your partner. If the risk doesn't bother you and your trust level is high, that is really cool but, I hope to never see you here trying to garner support for not taking responsibility of a child you may unwittingly be making.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:58 AM
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Absolutely and I don't even want redditors to represent either gender but the title is pretty ironic coming from a sub that argues for "financial abortion" because condoms are icky and men biologically "need" to nut bare in a baby maker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:24 PM
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I'm not sure what is a "male hobby" and none that women are "disgusted by" or what you are referring to unless this is a euphemism for beating your meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:03 AM
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How does someone else make ones' hobby less gendered? Is this like a fashion thing so, back when men wore high heals and women didn't, when women started wearing them in changed the fashion to a women's fashion? How does that work with hobbies? Do we do hobbies because they make us look masculine (or feminine, I guess?) or do we do them because we like them? If you're hobby is wood carving or oil painting or hiking, why does it matter who else does the same hobby and what their demographic is? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:14 PM
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You would think none of you have mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, daughters and sons, or friends for that matter, the way you talk about the opposite sex. What is coming across very loudly in every convo is that relations between the sexes are seen solely through the lens of frustration, misinformation, and confusion about dating and sex as if it is the only issue that matters and the only experience anyone has or will ever have. But, sure, men react to the frustration by being angry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:32 PM
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Are they? I cannot figure out whether the complaint is artificial aides used during sex (he doesn't want to use toys on her during sex) or he doesn't want her to use toys because than she can't come with just his own dick (the "death grip" argument.) If it's the first, it's not about masturbation. If it's the second, then he phrased it oddly and there is an inherent dismisall of women having more difficulty achieving orgasm during PIV that doesn't bode well for being this guy's lover on an even …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:10 PM
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Which kind of supports the theory - that there is less interest in being penetrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:46 PM
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I presume it would be a small sample size but it is a control that would be added data to the suggestion the issue is not gender but penetrator vs penetrate-y. Total numbers are not important if there are sufficient numbers for a reasonable sample size. I suspect there might be a good argument that, if the OP wants to "have sex" it would be easier if they were ok with assuming the "penetrate-y" and not the penetrator role and regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:45 PM
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Interesting viewpoint. I wonder if women who only want to peg have it easier than men who want to penetrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:00 PM
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Without a doubt. Case in point, every man on dating apps seems to be 6ft tall. Such an odd lie. Do they think a date wouldn't notice they are really 5ft8in? Do they think a date would see they are a liar and be like, "yeah, how attractive, I'll have sex with him?" Do women lie about sex partners in general and specifically? They must because they are also wear that prejudice against haveing any sexual experience is endemic if not epidemic. It might not even be out of evil intent. Guys here seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:26 PM
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No one makes fun of virgins. Preists, come to mind. Some do make fun of the virgin men who blame women for it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:46 AM
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If this was phrased "because they are scared and they don't really have to, anyway" then I'd say it is probably correct. Spread the word, ladies, get out there and ask for what you want, men are finally ready for it, so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:35 AM
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dude, what the fuck are you on about with this weird ass comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:17 AM
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No, this is not true. Get off the internet. Meet real women. No, this is not true. Sorry you've met so many creeps but that doesn't make it true that women don't respect cis (why specify this, btw?) men's consent any more than the fact that some women have been sexually assaulted means men are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:36 AM
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So, so tired of this "women are ... [something bad]." Becaue you have met a few who meet that criteria does not mean women meet that criteria. You see something you don't like, stop making it into some weird gender war salvo and move on to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:15 AM
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That is not transactional. Transactional is "I'll have sex with you if you buy me dinner" and "I'll buy you dinner if you have sex with me." Checking off preferences is cold, maybe, but don't pretend this doesn't happen in non-OLD and always has. Physical attributes, religion, skin color, good conversationalist, smart, can they dance? etc have always been components of attraction. Sometimes (rarely) it's just inexplicable attraction and "love at first sight" but almost never.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:13 AM
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But you're not okay with some men being misogynists, got it. Another hypocritical double standard from a woman. Ah, sorry. That was poor phrasing on my part. My intent was "I'm okay" with the statement that some feminists are misandrists and that is bad, not the loony extremists on any side. Sorry no hypocrisy to rail against in that. As for rights men have that women do not, are you suggesting that equality has always been the case? Is it likely to always be the case? Have you not seen posts on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:17 PM
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Review the title of the thread. It says "Feminism .. yada yada." There is no nuance or "some" there is just the usaul "feminsim = bad." This is a discussion about that. If you don't agree and have the basic intelligence to be skeptical of any absolute statement that implies or says "all" or "every" or "always" or "never" then, good job. Now, if you want to complain about a small group of crazy people saying crazy things, then, be clear and you'll find most people agree with you but, of course, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:54 PM
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"Perhaps?" Well, then, let me try this: Perhaps it's a vocal minority of bad faith men who hate women and remind the world how much they hate them at every turn. For one reason [do] another, they are completely shaping how modern men [are] perceived. And I don't see the "good ones" jumping in to check these misogynists. It's pretty trendy to shit on women these days. That comes from somewhere. Be one of the "good ones." It isn't hard. It looks like this: Me: Any woman who shits on all men, calls…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:43 PM
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Yes, there IS a meaningful difference between equating the bad behavior of one or a minority of men to all men. So glad you can see that. Now apply the same reasonable take to women and the majority of people who support feminism. Don't be dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:38 PM
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Cool, but the "all women" and "all feminists" is a shit take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:35 PM
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Pretty sure that "1 in 4" statistic is for sexual assault, not rape and I would think it is very possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:29 PM
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So, some extreme feminsts are misandrists and that is bad? Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm still a feminist and I believe women are human beings and deserve equal rights. I like men just fine (some more than others). I'm getting tired of seeing "feminist" be a bad word by misogynists and those brain washed by misogynists. Note: clarification on the first line - I support the statement that people who are misandrists are "bad" and some feminists are extreme and think that. I thought that would be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:22 PM
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Rooted in and absolutely committed to it, too, despite any evidence to challenge or modify it to reality. Reality which is much more varied than their simplified and over wrought views that lean in so heavily to persecution and victimhood and a manufactured gender war with calcified views and "logic" that is based on "every" and "all" fallacies and misunderstandings - where the existence and evidence of one person's or a minorities bad behavior is extrapolated to half the population gleefully an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:14 PM
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If this is the concern, why not just up your oral game and be the best she ever had? We are forever hearing that women aren't as visual as men and that arousal for them is based on much more than looks. Use that to your advantage. You giver her more and better pleasure than that selfish, drunk, oaf, "Chad" and she won't be yearning for his weak dick game.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:23 AM
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Add a heavy dose of "sex is gross and icky but I think about it all the time."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:17 AM
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Had a convo yesterday like this on the sub. After way too many back and forths, dude just outright admitted he believes all women want and have had "black cock" because it is bigger. But, yeah, he's not insecure?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:16 AM
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This is the "one true love" fantasy from generations past. The funny thing is it was girls who were socialized to believe in it back then, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:11 AM
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Is this your fantasy or reality as you see it because that is not the reality others see. Women are not, en masse, fucking porn stars or the "types of men who in porn." Are you talking about the men's looks, btw, because porn star looks are pretty variable and not always that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:10 AM
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No, this is called making an assumption. I chose a man who had shared values, was incredibly attractive to me (though my sisters don't see it, weird how women have different taste), could support himself, and fell in love with me and I him AND he was damn good in bed. There were others who were closer to par with this guy in the bedroom but didn't meet the other criteria for a long term relationship. If the sex ever gets less great, we'll still be together because of that other stuff. I recommen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:37 AM
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uh huh, sure, thing Ace
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:33 AM
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Where in the world did you get that idea? Isn't it more reasonable to read my statement and interpret (correctly) that I have had shitty, mediocre, and great sex and learned what I like choosing the man who I was compatible with (and had great sex) and don't ever have to wonder if I missed out on anything because I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:21 AM
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How in the world did you read that out of what i posted? I said that yes, I remember the most impressive man I ever fucked and I locked him down and you get "he isn't shit and I'm looking for better???" Even for reddit that is a hell of a wrong take. Not sure where you got me only valuing sex either but, like most men, I'm not going to promise 'forever' to someone who doesn't turn me on. THAT would be "settling" which this sub claims women do and blames them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:19 AM
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WTF? Who said I prefer big dicks? What a strange assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:15 AM
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There is something distasteful about a man claiming to have been with multiple virgins on a sub with so many redditors that think women who aren't are less "valuable." Please tell me you are not one of them or are you proud of yourself "sullying" virgins and then moving on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:15 PM
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Interesting response above suggests this is due to our collective repressed and limited experience heavily dominated by porn and society suggesting sex = PIV etc. It rings with some truth though I'm not sure how heavily. I have found with experience, exploration and reduced barriers, what people find they want and ask for changes so I think there is something to it. For sure we get the impression PIV is supposed to be best and yet, women struggle to orgasm through PIV as do many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:12 PM
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I think you are on to something. American sexual repression sure doesn't make Americans better at or more successful with sex. We shackle ourselves and don't even know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:07 PM
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I can't speak for all women or even all women who comment on this sub but I can reasonably assume I know more and have had more truthful and indepth conversations with women than most men posting here. So, there is that. That said, it is the nature of the sub and the very intent and design that it attracts those who have opinions on Red Pill or Blue Pill silliness. By the way, I have had a few lazy, selfish, and inept sexual partners. They are definitely out there. I have also been a disinterest…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:29 PM
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Reality will never live up to fantasy. This is even more of a danger when marrying someone who has no experience in reality and only the ideals of fantasy to measure you up against. Frankly, I have more girlfriends who are with a guy because he actually cared to and knew how to make her cum than girlfriends who say the sex was ever better with someone other than their partner. I'll grant you, it must happen, look at Melania and Trump. She isn't staying with him because his oral game is great, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:55 PM
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Is having the vagina the only part of sex that is relevant to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:47 PM
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The truth is, most of those previous experiences were disappointing and size is interesting but not always better sex. The real danger for men is to marry someone inexperienced who has grown up hearing that sex is supposed to make you swoon and the earth shake and "true love" is only possible with unfading passion and fireworks. Anyone who has had sex before knows that is a cute fantasy but not reality. Anyone who hasn't will always, always wonder, "is this all there is? could it be better?" eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:45 PM
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Hell yeah, cuz I locked that dude DOWN! Why would I settle for shit sex for life??? I mean, if you are Bill Gates or something, maybe women are prepared to endure dissappointment but if you are a regular guy, why would a woman choose you over the others if the sex was better with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:42 PM
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80%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:38 PM
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You know, if I had a girlfriend tell me that a sexual partner told her sex with previous partners was better, I'd urge her to bail, and quickly. Same for you. As you noted, it certainly isn't "all women" so why are you fucking or attempting to fuck the shitty ones? Have more self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:37 PM
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If you are in a relationship with someone who informs you they had better sex with someone else, they the fuck are you in the relationship? Seems to me it is definitely a "you problem." Worse than that is if guys are just assuming that they are worse than some previous partner. That is downright pathological and pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:33 PM
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He's saying he doesn't want any kids and, therefore, women can't want less than him. BTW, all the men I know but one want either no kids or fewer kids than their significant others and i know several who have ended marriages over it. None are at all concerned with "legacy" and if that were an issue, I think we'd see more men wanting grandkids (and more of them) then women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:01 PM
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I'm not convinced. If you get horny and have a high libido, are you going to try and beat off and/or have sex with someone? Even if you didn't orgasm last time? Even if you almost never orgasm? Or are you just going to take a cold shower and try to ignore it ... for your whole life? I mean, that would suck but I'm thinking most of us would keep trying. Hell, it might even actually explain why some women are into casual sex at all - they are looking for someone who can help them unlock the "O" ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:38 PM
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And is she to achieve that by experimenting with sex or is she just supposed to intuit it in her virginal/low n'count purety? Because, if there are any young and "pure" girls reading this sub, God bless them, because the message is overwhelmingly and shockingly still that the men would prefer her to be "innocent" and they'll figure it out and "train her" or at least hope she never realizes the sex could be better for her. So, whereas I actually it isn't your "job" and everyone grown up enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:22 PM
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Are you saying they aren't communicating during sex in real time (the "oh, yeah, that feels good, do that more, a littel bit to the left") or that they don't give you a play book in advance listing their preferred positions, fantasies, and what not? I have found, even without specific verbal instructions, there are plenty of physical cues as to what is working and what isn't (breathing, flushed, grinding, etc). As for the response to "what do you want," though, there often isn't a specific corre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:15 PM
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It does seem like masturbation would be quicker, easier, safer, and cleaner if one isn't interested in the interaction, feedback, and partner part, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:04 PM
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I partially agree. I would add the other half, most women aren't good at it either. If a woman doesn't know how to find her own "o" and a man doesn't know how to get her there or doesn't care to take the time to figure it out (both of which require her to cooperate and get out of her own way if that is the issue) then there is gonna be an orgasm gap because most dudes have exhaustively explored how to get from here to there for themselves and adding in a second player is usually a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:02 PM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to have sex with someone if you don't orgasm with them, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:57 PM
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Maybe in the hopes it will get better with time, which, for women, apparently is the norm as they get more comfortable, find it easier to let go, and communication improves. Orgasm is great but I understand sex can still be fun even with out it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:54 PM
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You think a high libido woman who can masturbate to orgasm 3-7 times a day is less likely to orgasm during partnered sex? Maaaaaaybe if she only has one path to orgasm and it involves fucking a jack hammer, I guess? But aside from that, I think it is more likely to be the inorgasmic, not that horny, doesn't masturbate or know how to find her own pleasure type that is struggling the most. I confess, I could be wrong and have nothing to back that up but, at least with the first, she can tell you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:24 PM
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You need to be asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:19 PM
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30 seconds? Never timed them but I think I gotta up my game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:17 PM
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So, it's really a "beautiful women live life on easy mode."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:02 PM
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Weird that it is always men I hear saying that "women are not visual and are not visually turned on, they care more about other things like money and job title" so, are men also "gaslighting" on this issue? Regardless, though, what kind of idiot could hear "women don't care about looks" and believe it for even a second? Since when did the cheerleader ever go for the ugly wimpy guy in highschool? Did no one ever notice the women who flocked to see Magick Mike and all it's sequels? Did anyone actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:28 PM
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? Valium was the number one prescribed drug in the US in the 70's and it was mainly prescribed to women to alleviate anxiety and depression. Where is the myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:55 AM
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LMAO, housewives were popping valium like jelly beans back in the good old days just to deal with the boredom, depression and anxiety of their lives. If there is a lesson to be learned, it sure as hell is not that women have better mental health with no career options, no no-fault divorce, and societally expected early and mandatory marriage to whomever "takes" their "virginity."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:51 PM
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Ridiculous to blame anyone for dating someeone hot. If you are "mid" and some hot chick gives you the time of day, are you going to say "gosh, thanks but no, you are looks matched a class above me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:45 PM
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But we are arguing about "natural order" and "biology" which would be much more concerened with physical attributes to pass on genetically not whether a male is "nice." I don't think the lady lions are looking for Leo the Kind over Leo the big, muscley, swinging balls, breeding stock. (Personally, I find this over dependence on evolutionary and biological imperatives to be bollox butt I'm going with the sub's prevailing and rather questionably scientific zeitgeist.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:43 PM
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I was conditioned to believe women should be beautiful and horny for me and it is unfair because I have also been conditioned that my life has no meaning without this and it is a biological need to sow my precious seed and dominate such females. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:56 PM
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And you are "purple pilled?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:54 PM
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Clearly, then, nature's guidance is dumb and women's choice is dumb and all that leaves is for men to decide for women. It's the only logical thing. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:11 PM
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Are you honestly ok with the redditor's statement of "I'ld rather women lose their rights for ruining society?" And the response that this is why feminism was necessary seems pretty obvious to me. Women who have no rights, particularly when those rights are taken away to punish them (for "ruining" society somehow) is literally subjugating them. What is it you are on about by diverting the convo to some blah, blah about a man working 12 hours a day???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:36 PM
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To be a "wolf" you must blame women for all that is wrong in your life and the world. "Sheep" are those who don't realize that and just life their lives. Now that your eyes have been opened to this reality, you can be happier and freer. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:26 PM
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Also, "why won't women give me access to their hole?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:18 PM
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I find the delusion of "the natural order" pretty telling. If they were so committed to natural and biological imperatives, wouldn't the breeding structure look exactly like "alpha" man with harem/pride of all the women they could handle of all "tiers" and all the leftover men can slink around and be mad about it and never get to breed? Speaking of breeding, isn't it better for the human race as a whole for even the "mid" women to "leach elite seed" rather than settle for mediocre product? Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:37 PM
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Yes, women wanting sex is bad. Women wanting no sex is also bad. Basically, women = bad. Thank god for the "alpha male" who will "swing in like a wrecking ball" and fix this terrible and unnatural phenomema of diabolical women wanting sex and being attracted to hot men and also not wanting sex and "slamming their pussy shut." And, together with the beautiful, high fertility women will return us to the natural ways of Christian monogamy where fictional attractive men get fictional attractive wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:28 PM
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TL;DR: Everything is women's fault. Correction: Not the hot and "most fertile women," just the "mids," of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:20 PM
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We aren't talking about work or professional lives but personal and dating lives. And man, i begin to understand why the dating lives of the redditors on this sub are so messed up and unsatisfactory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:39 AM
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So then men hide who they are intentionally? (And imagine they are successful at it?)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:56 PM
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Are you suggesting women are more honest and less disengenuous than men? This is a fresh take for this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:55 PM
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I do not think it is the norm in society. However, it seems pretty common on this sub going by many of the questions, posts and convos and, I believe OP was addressing this little and weird subculture and not "all men."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:07 AM
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I believe the claim is "most women ..." Are you suggesting most women want to kill all men? That would be very shocking, indeed. At the very least, their family lives must be appalling to not even want to exempt fathers and brothers and sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:05 AM
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Why not? What's it cost you? Think how superior you could feel about it. And the bonus is, even if it is "most" women (probably not) it isn't "all.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:02 AM
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It is truly a relief to hear you say so. If you would be so kind as to make this same assertion to a fellow red pill adjacent redditor when they imply as much, that would be very "alpha" of you. Thankyou.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:59 AM
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Hard to say. However, if the redditors here talk in public as they do on here, then, the answer is almost certainly, "yes." It's just deeply weird and fundamentally hateful and judgemental. Kind of a downer to be around. Plus, most of us have mothers, sisters, daughters, maybe even friends who are women and when these redpill views becomes personal or clashes with someone's observed reality, well, as Trump said: "smart people don't like me."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:55 AM
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I don't think you can graft Middle East gender politics and culture onto western civilization and not see what the other redditor is describing. The women in the Middle East have lived under that kind of oppression for generations and still you see women willing to die (and kill) to fight it. It would be orders of exponential magnitude worse in a western culture. In fact, it would be much bigger than an all out war of the sexes because you would see many men who would not tolerate it either. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:35 PM
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What if the liberal woman gets pregnant and doesn't want an abortion but the conservative prick doesn't want to deal with it and wants her to get an abortion but she can't, because they live in Texas and then she finds out he voted for that shit and is such a hypocrit .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:27 PM
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Check it out all you ladies - you can spot the "nice kind empathetic and caring" dude cruising the OLD scene pretending to be a lib so he can get laid by his need to refer to you as "mentally ill," "bitch" and "evil cunt." Surprise, surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:23 PM
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For example I am not awful, I am good to everyone in my life. followed by, Its mentally ill lefty women like yourself that would call me "awful" because of basic ass politics, honestly ppl like you sicken me You gotta be trolling or stunningly lacking in self awareness. People who dislike you are not "mentally ill" they are seeing you for who you are which is, in fact, pretty awful and manipulative, never mind the politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:16 PM
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"I lie to mentally ill people to get laid because they force me to by not liking me if I am myself" is the biggest self own I think I have ever seen and peak "alpha" behavior, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:10 PM
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What a flexible code of ethics you propose! I would also add that telling someone you are not going to answer their invasive question is not lying. Volunteering your political leanings as being the exact opposite of what they are, in truth, in order to manipulate someone is definitely lying, though, you are correct, men seem to do this pretty often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:04 PM
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Having just come from a "social setting" (a big wedding) this conversation is striking quite different. All them men wore exactly the same thing (black tux, white shirt, black shoes). No two women wore the same thing or even much the same type of thing. There were long gowns, short dresses, pant suites, skirts and shirts, (and one tux). An alien observer with no preconceived notion might conslude that the male gender was the one prone to a "heard" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:40 PM
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So, kinda like the human species is emotional yet we hear about women being the emotional gender because we discount anger as an emotion. (it's just showing manly aggression?)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:30 PM
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I’ve had sex with several non-virgins. Gross. You are such a self satisfied hypocrit, man. (Also, please speak to your wife in terms of "breaking her in" and "training her." It will speed things up and she might get out before you "use her all up" and "run her through."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:28 PM
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Awesome and lucky for you. You attribute that to her being a virgin? Mind you, I'm sure it happens anecdotally but I can also name siblings, cousins, friends, and aquaintences who, somewhere between the third year and later, ended up in a divorce because the inexperienced woman was uninterested in sex and convinced it must be better out there somewhere with someone else because all the songs, all the movies, all the books etc said there should be swoonings and fireworks and PASSION, and instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:08 PM
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It is ironic that on a day where one person posts a thread that gay and trans men are hiding their G or T'ness from women and marrying them and this is somehow women's fault, we also have you saying, lets drive abnormal gayness back into the closet and encourage them to get married. It doesn't seem like that is likely to work very well for your end goal and I feel like we have tried this before. You seem to believe that "normalizing" by which I presume you mean "allowing" or "not shaming" people…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:01 PM
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I don't have a problem with gay relationships. Long as we as society acknowledge that they are abnormal. Just like OCD and ADHD it's abnormal. And yet, somehow, you must bravely carry on with not being able to dictate how other people feel. BTW, don't think I didn't notice that you still haven't explained what acknowledging that any of those are not the norm will do to contribute to children being raised by two parents. Once again, that continued dodge leads me to conclude that, either, you real…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:59 PM
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The conversation is about women married to gay men and/or "transwidows." Are you saying women should take responsibility for that because women can get pregnant???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:28 PM
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Definitely!!! What does it have to do with this specific discussion topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:52 PM
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No need at all to specify women, then. To explicitly do so implies you think this is a specific trait for women and leads to misunderstandings of your stance and annoying and unneccessary friction. Women are people. Men are people. The two have more commonalities than not, by far. This is hard for some to grasp for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:43 PM
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What planet are you on that you think hetero relationships are not normalized? And, if on that world, they are not and non-hetero relationships are normalized, why is it abnormal? That would be a contradiction. Heterosexuality has always been the norm on this planet. This leads me to understand you are not, in fact, trying to normalize it but trying to erase the minority. A minority who do not even play into what was a thread about raising children in two parent households. You have an axe to gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:41 PM
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Oh dear, extrapolating an average reddit user to an average for all of a community is guaranteed to lead to a gian "fail." I thought most of us "mature" and intelligent types on social media understood that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:39 PM
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Just women? Or is that a normal "people" type thing? I haven't noticed a gendered trait or men being comfortable with admitting when they are wrong, made a mistake etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:29 PM
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Would love to see more thoughtful posts like this (from any "side' and any angle, it's the thoughfullness that I'm loving). Thankyou.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:28 PM
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Surely OPs next post will be about how many men are blindsided when their wife turns out to be sexually disinterested in them and will confess it is all the man's fault for not realizing that his "low n-count" wife isn't into sex and has a low libido? Maybe they will also confess that men marry such women thinking "surely my dick will make her horny and only for me" because they "have been raised to believe" that women who have had sex with other men are "run through" and cannot "pair bond" but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:18 PM
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I was kinda following the post until the last paragraph. What in the world do LGBTs and asexuals have to do with having children and parenting? Are you suggesting they be coerced into heterosexual marriage and parenting? While being told they are abnormal? That's gonna be some real healthy families, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:01 PM
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Well, you tried. Nothing says "masculine" and "alpha" like defending with men cannot think logically, cannot control themselves, are governed by their penis, can't take responsibility and that women are the dominant in sexual relations. Trad wife that!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:54 PM
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The responsibility is literally and legally on both of them. And, sorry, women do not "tend" to be bad at judging character any more than men and in either case, it is not the fault of the other gender whether a partner is a bad judge of character but it IS the fault of either or both if they create a child they did not want. In your world, do men have not ability to understand cause and effect, no ability to choose whether to use or not use protection or whether their dick happens to end up in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:49 PM
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Yes, men who have PIV sex unprotected make babies. This is a long known fact. Logically, a man who does not want to make babies or be responsible for them should not have unprotected PIV sex. Are men the logical sex or is that a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:44 PM
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Bigger emotions about cuddling and hugs, too. If this psuedoscience interpretation was accurate, women would "bond" with their vibrators and men with their right hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:51 PM
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There are "radfems" pushing back because of statements like yours deluding yourselves into thinking you know women better than they know themselves and saying: "It doesn't matter what they think." When women pull that kind of stupidity, "radmascs" push back, too, and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:50 PM
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Okay, then if this is the criteria, women would be in love with their rabbit which more reliably and more spectacularly triggers an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:47 PM
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OMG, this is so silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:45 PM
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I believe I have made it very clear that I understand that point completely. But that I don't see how that leads to "financial abortion" as a remedy. Please reread my comments and attempt to release your fixation on your own imagined victimization long enough to see a bigger picture. The woman cannot wave her hands in the air and cry "unfair, unfair, I am not allowed to make him get a vasectormy as a get out of jail free card to escape the consequences of engaging in the adult activity of sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:23 AM
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This is only as relevant to the discussiion as mentioning that women can't get a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:56 PM
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I believe your argument is that only women can prevent a child being born (and the obligations it entails for the parents who created it) by the method of abortion? This is true in that men could get an abortion if they had the biology for it but they don't so the argument is semantic. That said, it is also true that only men can prevent a child being born by getting a vasectomy. Women could get a vasectomy if they had the biology for it but they do not. Are you drawing the conclusion that men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:39 PM
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There is no contradiction. Neither a woman nor a man can force another person to get an abortion. Either a woman or a man can choose to get an abortion themselves for their own body (within the laws of the state they are in).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:26 PM
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It's pretty telling that men here read that perceived dynamic as "men smart and logical, women - lizard brain, dumb." I'd say it reads exactly the opporsite. Women make smart, practical choices, men go for pujssy accesss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:17 PM
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I agree but if there wasn't a kernal of truth in it, we wouldn't have almost every fairytale, "chick flick" and trashy romance, revolving around some version of Cinderella and the handsome prince who saves her. What gets overplayed by red pill is that the status/$ is more important than that the dude is young and hot, also. By the way, my thought is it is ONLY a kernal of truth in that women are socialized not hard wired to be at least somewhat attracted to men who can provide a better standard …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:13 PM
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I don't think it's good "science," even good "reddit science" to make predictive extrapolations about that. We know more women (in the US) are going to college than men and have been for several years. Will it really continue to be "much more common occurence" that the man makes more money in a relationship? If so, it will probably only be because men are marrying much younger women or because there are fewer relationships. I think we need to quit looking backward and whining about how things us…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:53 AM
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Also He’s a heart of gold super hero who regularly risks his life for people…who the hell cares if he picks up his socks… That is exactly the kind of thinking that leads to men being surprised when she breaks up or asks for a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:10 PM
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You're almost there in realizing that the best partner is an individual preference not a generic category society or all men or all women cobble together and it applies to everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:01 PM
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Statistics are used to lie all the time. Even those not intending to lie take them out of context and nuance and come to erroneous conclusions and spread them. Fantasies of finding a virgin who will love one forever and be available for sex always when in fact she is unsatisfied and disappointed or even repulsed but she is non-confrontational and submissive so she doesn't dare clue them in and be a partner in truth and help make the sex good for both - THAT, is the fantasy based on wishful think…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:56 PM
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Is he caring as a partner? Does he pick up after himself? Does this funny, charismatic adonis wash his own socks and make his own sandwhich? Does he love and respect her and support her dreams and goals? Does he share values and life goals with her? Does he want kids? How many? Will he change diapers? Does he LIKE kids? Does he piss in the shower? Does he freak out at being asked to buy tampons? Is he an asshole when he is sick and not feeling well? Is he supportive when his partner is sick and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:11 PM
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What if I responded that that statement is bollox for a general statement? Yes, a woman who sleeps with anyone who asks because she has no self esteem and/or doesn't believe in or want commitment or is sexually dysfunctional is just as bad a bet for a long relationship than a man who is same. However, a woman who has explored her sexuality and curiousity and discovered what it is she wants and how to ask for it and give it and have a grown up sexual relationship and is now ready for commitment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:57 PM
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I've no complaint with being kind. More people should try it. That isn't the problem with OP's description of the ideal WOMAN (not, man, note). She’s agreeable, non-combative, gentle, and doesn’t push or challenge...not ambitious.. low body count This is not a woman who is submissive, weak and naive. In fact, she may not even be kind but she never causes trouble or speaks up for herself. She could be a raving, angry bitch inside but she never acts on it. Yikes. In fact, be ready for this once na…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:51 PM
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This seems like a "chick flick" movie plot not reality. I'm not seeing a lot of Kennedy's marrying the diner waittress. I do see the occassional "Beauty and the Beast" match up, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:55 PM
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Yeah, that redditor made a leap about as big as yours but they were correct that the description of ideal woman is also the ideal person most likely to become a doormat, taken for granted and of no value once their youth and beauty are gone. My hopes for my daughter is that she find health, happiness, and good friends, and hopefully a partner who cherishes her for herself, not her looks or youth or purity of her vagina. She is intelligent, funny, and strong. Any potential partner who doesn't see…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:50 PM
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Hard to say. How is he as a partner? I think what you listed as ideal for the sexes was what is considered ideal by society (for men) and what is considered ideal for the man from the perspective of the man (for women). You weren't wrong, it was just apples and oranges. Yes, women would like an attractive and successful man but they also want one who prioritizes them and their relationship just as you mentioned the man wants from the woman. You were completely correct that society does not value…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:44 PM
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It's also about respect. It's easy to respect the "Chad" described. It's easy to want the woman described, but respect her? Yeah, no. She's a doormat to be taken advantage of and forgotten when she's no longer young and pretty and the kids are grown and don't need her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:37 PM
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I know I would donate to a "I love balls" drive. Just as I did when approached for a "I love boobies" campaign. This person above has some very strange ideas and maybe needs to go out and do the fucking hard work of organizing awareness and fund raisers for their own causes intead of whine that others who have done so have succeded. What a frickin whiner and woman hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:35 PM
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I would disagree. Women have always been much more valued for their physical attributes then for their intelligence or personality. Men's physical attributes are nice but their ability to hold a job and provide has been the main attraction in the marriage market with their personality and intelligence at least as societally valued as their looks. The pool boy is nice to look at and fine for a fling but nobody marrys him. The pretty waittress, though? And, JFC, this "ncount" obsession feels so hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:31 PM
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Don't forget pheromones!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:04 PM
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What is denigrating is pretending to like the type of guy who frequents OF. Hard for someone who isn't a great actor to hide the "ick" and pretend to be aroused. Making money as a nude model for a painter might be fun, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:58 PM
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Is there anything in the stats that suggest the singlehood is driven more by one gender than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:28 AM
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I wonder if those stats included those "married" to the church.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:27 AM
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Can personally confirm those odds from my family through 4 generations, split evenly between genders and with no connection to relative attractiveness or wealth/prospects. In most cases I can confirm, it was largely by choice - "just didn't want to settle," "didn't want kids," or "seemed like a hassle" most common reasons. I am NOT asking my aunts, uncles and great aunts and uncles, nor even my cousins if they have/had low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:26 AM
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Seriously. The general view here is women place $ above looks. So why isn't the conclusion to fight against low wages and massive wealth disparity? This idea that society is going to force women to pair up with men against their will is not going to lead to what men want. They want a bed partner who wants them (for whatever reason they can).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:42 AM
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Couldn't agree more. But, the conversation keeps getting derailed by "unfairness" and it is worth it to point out, almost no man would change hands with a woman on this issue. We all understand how "unfair" it is and to whom. Hell, the Christian types revel in it as a punishment specifically and solely for Eve she and the man both did the bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:25 AM
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The answer is "no." Each person is in charge of themselves and their own bodies. The actions of one cannot negate the obligation of the other towards the third person created once that third person exists independently. Does this potentially suck? Yes. Is it unfair that one person has the sole option to end the pregnancy occuring in their own body? No. That same person is the one who takes all of the risk and burden of the pregancy which completely cancels out the "unfair" deficit. Frankly, give…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:55 PM
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Then where do the promiscuous women come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:32 PM
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Really classy and mature dudes, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:27 PM
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Dude, please understand, you are definitely making up this narrative in your head. And it is very telling. Every youngish widow I know was the wife of a normal dude. Some married men who died in accidents, some developed cancer, others were soldiers who died in the line of duty but if you blame them for that, you are truly an asshole. Maybe you "grew up in the hood" to have the world view you do but it is not an accurate portrayal of the world at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:37 PM
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What an utterly shitty assumption to make. So, a widow, or a woman who marries a man and then the man cheats or abuses her or leaves her for the secretary or whatever "deserves no sympathy" because they made shitty choices? WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:02 PM
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Very strange to assume the children of single mom's all or mostly have criminal fathers. Probably the majority of single moms are just your average (literally) divorcee. If their dad's are "criminals" the criminality is probably forgetting to pay child support. I would agree that that is a pain to get involved with, though. Still, not sure why the blame gets dumped on single mom. But, to the point, ugly and single motherhood are not the point. Stigma is the point. And, yes, both conditions are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:41 PM
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Not a useful point. Being ugly results in a lot of "sigma" in the dating market and society and yet, it's a practical truth that ugly isn't sexually attractive to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:07 PM
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It seems logical that if one chooses to marry someone much younger with no assets and limited education and income and one prefers them to stay like that and be a "trad wife", then, there is a premium to pay for that preference. In the lingo of the red pill and many on this sub, if you intend to a young, beautiful, low n-count, submissive, "high value" piece of meat and return them to the market a "run through," too old, low value piece of meat then, expect to pay for the devaluation. Epstien ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:53 PM
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When the redditn algorithm, in it's infinite mysteries, started dumping this sub onto my front page, I had flash backs and rather assumed Gor was the operating manual for some of the redditors here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:24 PM
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Men leaving their wives for the younger secretary is a damn meme that's been around forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:23 PM
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The atttractive and sure to get you laid term "run thru" comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:18 PM
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Sort of and with some logic to it if it wasn't a bodily autonomy thing. Without a doubt, women who do not want to get pregnant should take birth control precautions and not allow a man who has professed to be uninterested in kids in their vagina with out a condom. That said, there is no woman (well, maybe very young women raised in very religious households with no access to moder media) who does not understand that, even with birth control, they might get pregnant. Women have no choice but to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:18 PM
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LMAO, do a reddit survey on that, dude. If by "date" you mean "fuck" then, maybe. If by date you mean have a relationship, doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:00 PM
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And as if divorced women don't suffer the stigma of being a divorcee, particularly if they have kids and custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:20 PM
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Fair point and it will be interesting to see how this changes in the future as more women go to college and have careers and start earning on par.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:18 PM
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I would agree that would be an ideal in a world where people entered into a marriage equally and maintained equality through the marriage. If one partners job move takes precedence and the other has to make a sacrifice for that, than, no. If one person is a better care giver, has more time, has more interest in the children, etc, than, no. "Paper abortion" is just a means for men to escape the consequences of an adult activity they chose to engage in and is known to result in pregnancy. If they …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:17 PM
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One begins to think there is an agenda and an end goal. Not only is it an end goal that would be awful for women, it is an end goal that STILL won't get these guys a date, more sex, and certainly not more love. You gotta particularly love it when a redditor who admits to not being rich, powerful, or handsome somehow assumes that if we would just go "back" to the days of harems, they'd be one of the guys who had one. News flash, what they are thinking of is is a hysterically funny wishful thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:12 PM
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Damn, I must know a lot of unnatural women (and men) because almost everyone I know that is married, the woman has equivalent earning power, social status, and wealth as the man. Maybe that's because I pretty much only know the college educated crowd and don't know any men who want to marry someone ten or more years younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:08 PM
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They can also "always have one foot out the door."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:05 PM
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OP suggests both that women bear no stigma from divorce AND asserts women are advantaged and usualy get the kids. Do we need to do a survey here as to how many men are willing to date a divorced woman with kids? Yeah, it aint a lot though, I guess they'd fuck her if given half a chance. The alimony claim is a give away OP does their research from whiner subs on reddit and not in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:04 PM
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There aren't many men out there who want the sole responsibility of being the only bread winner supporting a horde of dependents either even if they would like to skip out on housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:46 PM
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Biologically designed to cook dinner and run a vacuum? What does that even mean? Although, that actually explains why my man can't load a dishwasher for shit. He's pretty good at vacuuming though and folds a mean shirt. Maybe he's a bit girly? Nah, dude is former special ops and a blacksmith. I think his man card is pretty bonafide.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:44 PM
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OMG this is so incredibly infantilizing of grown people with brains and dreams and humanity equal to yours. Do better. I also just googled your claim about the "vast majority of women going to colleges ... are being funded by their parents already." Looks like the gender that gets more of the parental help is actually men. Maybe they should forego careers and stay home with mom and dad till a woman chooses to gift him with marriage where he can stay home and make her a sammich because he is kept…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:34 PM
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This (previous post) is such a revisionist, anti-historical, fictional take. Women not working was an ideal for a very brief time in history, in a very small portion of the globe and always, always limited to the wealthier class that could afford it. My Mom worked; my Grandmas worked, my Great Grandmas worked. They didn't get paid shit because they had vaginas or something but they sure as hell worked, and raised the family, and cleaned the house, and managed the family finances, and brought sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:27 PM
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tl;dr: Women have adapted to the changes of the modern world more than men have. Women are mad about that. comment: Men are even more mad and sad about it. The implication is pretty clearly that women should devolve and go back into the kitchen and make men a sammich. Yeah, no thanks. Deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:19 PM
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No. Do men go through labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:20 PM
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A woman can decide she wants to be a stay at home Mom, how many Men can say that? Is it an equal amount, why not? What about logging, are there a lot of women doing that job? Why not? Are you really making an "equal outcomes" vs "equal opportunity" argument? Why? The answer is as many men who want to be a stay at home parent can be as women. It's a free society, now (if we can keep it). You discuss these things with your potential partner and whether or not your financial situation will allow fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:10 PM
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Yes, collective insurance works like that. If you buy insurance for your car and get in a wreck, you will very likely take out more than you put in and lots more than someone who did not have an accident. This is actually precisely an example of being responsible and accountable as well as being savvy about risk and money management. Also, no, you cannot get Social Security for "just not wanting to work." You can get it for disability and, unless it was a disability from childhood, you almost ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:59 PM
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Mostly that more women prefer to fuck Men then boys. It's not a "power" so much as a privelege. Bizarrly, many, or perhaps "boys" do not feel the same way about women and that is bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:51 PM
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That is heart breaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:49 PM
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Dude, you repeatedly asked me questions framed as individual and personal (it's in the "you.") Are you asking me to speak for all women in general? Then my point is still, not all men are predators, not even most and not all women, not even most are weak or victims or afraid. The entire premise is garbage and poor reasoning and, by OPs logic, if men, in general, share this faulty reasoning, then it is of no benefit to society and they should be disregarded. (Luckily for men, I do not believe mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:48 PM
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i think women (especially modern women) have a hard time accepting all of the biological drawbacks they were dealt. Sort of agree except it isn't an issue of "accepting" the drawbacks so much as aquiescing with an old patriarchical paradigm that says those draw backs mean they are inferior and should stay in the kitchen and make me a sammich. Women accept that a man often has more grip strength and can open the peanut butter jar easier; that men are often taller and can reach the top shelf witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:41 PM
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Social Security they pay into their entire life? How is that being not accountable? Being not accountable is refusing to pay for insurance when you can afford it and expecting everyone else to shoulder the expense when you get sick or injured and end up in the emergency room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:33 PM
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And "boys" should not be allowed to play in the baby making grown up playground until they are mature enough to grasp that actions have consequences and adults do not shirk responsibility for their actions. .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:31 PM
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No, I do not. Because I don't actually live in fear. I am informed some people do but I know of none, personally. And, no, I do not think there is a [good] reason for that fear because I do not think all men or even most men are barely restrained rapists despite the shocking evidence that so many on this site think that is the natural and preferred state for men. In fact, I think any man who feels rape is justified or their due because the women won't sex him or because he is mad at society or f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:26 PM
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Arranged marriages? No. Just, no. Professional matchmakers that find and introduce people who are looking to settle down and commision their services? Yes. Rate them by their success rate as measured in marriages and longevity of marriages stats. Downsides - those with money will get the best service and the best selections. "Low value" customers will still have very few options. Upsides - Subcontracting the search would be a real time saver and cut down on the ego busting "swipe left" that is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:02 PM
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I would say that many men and women struggle with accountability, certainly not all, and certainly it is not a gender trend by even a small margin let alone your claimed but unsubstantiadted "wide margin." Case in point, if you've been on this sub for more than a minute, you've seen multiple upvoted posts about men wanting to shed the accountability for PIV sex, specifically wearing a condom and/or financial liability for any life created. The argument that women can do so (a crappy argument bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:49 PM
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Would you say that women have, by a wide margin, not had to deal with accountability because of the perception by men that it is a moral imperative that we protect women? No. I would not say that, not any part of it. It's all garbage supported by preconceptions and tortured "facts" and perceptions to fit preference. To reflect OP's (ridiculous) premise: So that begs the question, if a womans [man's] primary method of organising self and the world, rests on moment-to-moment satisfaction and buryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:23 PM
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This is funny given the most fundamental to life labor (so fundamental, it is literally called "labor") is solely done by women. But sure, opening a jar and debugging a computer is sometimes done by men so, men protect womena and are better and women should be nicer to them and give them the sex because how can they go on without them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:13 PM
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From this sub, I'd submit that men (here) seem unwilling and unable to accept they have no right to sex, no right to a partner. This is the "unoomfortable truth" of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:57 PM
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Agreed and that's a good place to start as the disconnect between how men and women interact starts there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:46 PM
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It's been my experience that when a woman doesn't see you as romantic material for herself, she doesn't really see you as romantic material for anyone. If this is the case and common, than that explains so much about male AND female loneliness currently. It also explains why most of the people I know are in a relationship or have been recently - because everyone I know does this "networking." Are your friends equally useless if you are looking for a job or is it only romantic connections they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:12 PM
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Given how many women don't do OLD, it seems foolish to only fish there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:47 PM
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If your female friends aren't helping you with networking and recommending you to other's of their friends and vice versa, they either really suck or they don't think you make a good boyfriend. Ask them why. All the mixed groups I've ever socialized with, from family to school to hobby friends can't stop trying to set up everyone in the group even when you don't want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:45 PM
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You have to be kidding me. First of all, it aint that hard to buy condoms (oh no, the shame???). It isn't that hard to have a conversation with a partner. If words are too awkward, how the hell does one get naked, stick one's dick in an oriface, make weird sounds, faces and humping motions and then make a sticky mess? I also contend if you are too mortified to buy and use a condom, you are almost certainly an impressively bad lover even by highschool standards. As for making ones life immeasurab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:29 PM
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This is why I cannot imagine choosing to go to coillege in a state like TX or FL. Never mind if you are a guy and can't get pregnant, surely you want to have sex and do not want to get a hookup pregnant with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:06 PM
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You misunderstood. I definitely do not mean "ready to have a baby." Some of us are never ready for that. I meant ready to take responsibility for sex - that includes preventing having an unwanted baby, handling STDs and checkups, but also being able to have a mature conversation with a partner (and parents if you are a minor) about what to do in the event of an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:04 PM
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Do you think that a man can just up and attract a woman with no practice as a twenty-something virgin? Yes, yes I do. Because it happens for most people that way. You do know nobody can look at you and tell if you are a virgin, right? Women don't look at you at 20 and sniff out that you got laid before. But, to address the kernal of truth in what you are alluding to. Yes, people should flirt and interact with the opposite sex and date as soon as they feel the interest. PIV sex, though, is an add…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:06 AM
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Let's be clear, the vast majority of highschoolers are not dating and not fucking. It is not "weird" to "miss out" on that. That said, it is a very good idea to practice flirting and socializing with the opposite sex just as soon as you feel any interest in doing so. Practice does improve skills and build confidence. As for having sex, though, ask yourself first if you are mature enough. Ask the question honestly and without peer pressure and judgement from the culture you swim in. This is about…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:59 PM
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Getting a girl pregnant in highschool is definitely a thing to miss out on. Having sex before you are mature enough to deal with any consequences (or she is) is sad and immature. At the very least, having sex if you are too embarrassed to buy or use condoms is a clue you aren't ready for sex. If imagining telling your parents you got a girl pregnant makes you want to piss yourself, you aren't ready for sex. If your girlfriend having a baby would ruin your life and plans, you aren't ready for sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:51 PM
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You think it would have been better if he had had those experiences in high school? Also, parents may want grandchildren but most don't want them from their high school son with some teen girl and a relationship almost guaranteed to crash and burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:46 PM
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It might be the major acitivity difference but are you saying you approach your relationships with friends the same way as with a long term romantic partner? I have long term friends and I like them but I do not love them. We hang out and have fun but I don't want to live with them and certainly not forever. I don't want to maybe raise a family with them or comingle finances. If we don't have common life goals, vacation plans, sleep habits, exactly matched ethics, or even similar political views…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:27 PM
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More like the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:29 AM
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Orrrr, maybe, there is just something atttractive about someone who has goals and drive, someone engaged in life with purpose, and can demonstrate commitment? Case in point, "ambition" does not necessarily translate to "wants to get rich." A person can have ambition to be a published author, a coach who takes their highschool team to state championships, become a fighter pilot, or make the Kona IronMan. (That last is more a formula to poverty than to wealth but it's still attractive to have that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:34 AM
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It's only about looks in OLD where, yeah, you lead with your picture. Try real life and making friends, interacting with real people so one is more than just an unattractive photo competing against guys with your weakest foot forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:24 PM
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Your fellow 25 yr old women are all "ran through?" I find that pretty hard to believe. But then, I've seen men here equate "has gone clubbing once or twice" with "ran through" which seems a bit ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:20 PM
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There have always been men and a counterculture that pushes back against the values of capitalism - that more is better and ambition and grinding is best. Billy Joel's "Movin Out" song and lyrics come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:15 PM
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Women are more ambitious than men? If so, this is certainly a change. Or is it that women have always been more ambitious but now they don't have to do it vicariously by living through their husband's ambitions and prospects? I always thought ambition was considered a "masculine" trait. If it is not, it rather makes me reconsider all the other, so called "masculine" traits and how biological vs societal they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:09 PM
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Good thing the year is not 500 BC and men and women can choose how many children to have and support. In this millenium, neither men nor women tend to want 15 kids (or 4). BTW, a harem based societal structure is actually a way to reduce birth rates not increase them as a few men take all the women out of reproductive circulation and, no, members of a harem are not likely to have 15+ children each or even 4 with the fertility rate per woman dropping in correspondence with the size of the harem. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:44 PM
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They are trying to say, "look, I had sex with someone before and it sucked and I'm really hoping, and kinda thinking, it could work out better with you." As Chemical-Low209 said, clumsy. But, they are trying to give you the benefit of the doubt if yo are up for doing better and also a hint about what went wrong and how you could sex her better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:23 AM
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and why does it require wanting a woman to "let" you be it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:20 AM
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I'm going to disagree with this one. I know to many women who like to orgasm daily, one way or another to suggest ALL women aren't horny and only have regular sex because men want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:24 PM
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Can confirm. When a woman sighs in exasperation at her horny man who wants it again, it's because they had sex yesterday. When a man sighs in exasperation at his horny woman who wants it again, it's because they just had it 20 min ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:22 PM
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I would suspect the results from Norway are about as similar to the US as the results of Spain, which is to say, not very.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:18 PM
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I'm curious what conversations you are imagining that would help narrow the "orgasm gap?" Do you mean like: "How's your tongue game?" "What's your past rate of partner's orgasming?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:13 PM
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There are services for breast milk if that is your main issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:08 AM
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Isn't this what Elon Musk does? Sort of? If not, what do you mean? How does the man have a child by himself? Are you saying if a single man adopted he'd be criticized? Weird take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:05 AM
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If you don't believe the fetus has a right to live, why should it have the right to financial support? but, but, "denying kids a second parent for financial reasons is actually insane!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:03 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:48 PM
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For some reason, I read that as "Balding." I do note they don't give their body type and fitness level but have a preference in hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:06 PM
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You get tired of having to drop everything and play chaufferur. Although, if they are economically situated to Uber everywhere, than that is fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:05 PM
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Women will read that as: middle aged and wants someone closer to legal drinking age. Tall but wants someone short. Doesn't list fitness/weight/body type so, going with the theme, the opposite of what is listed, or fat and/or not fit Similarly, no kids and low body count wanted, therefore, either is paying child support and/or has a history with a lot of gfs. No "radicalized political women" so right wing, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:03 PM
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And do you think those numbers will improve with "trad" households?" When the woman "loses the butterflies" or realizes, for whatever reason the dude or the trad life isn't what she thought it would be, will she stay because she can't afford to leave? Is that a desirable outcome, even?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:37 PM
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50SoG - the main female character clearly did NOT want someone to boss her around in her life. In the bedroom? Yeah, she decided to embrace that kink but she insisted on having her own career, was furious when he interefered to make that easier (and put her in his own pocket) and routinely stood up to him when he tended towards domineering. Not sure you are correct on the Trump thing. I don't think those who voted for him want him to boss THEM around. They want him to bully and own the libs and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:34 PM
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When the pendulum swings, it does suck to be on the losing end of the over correction, it is true. Luckily, "the pendulum" is not one thing but the collective sum of many individuals and there are plenty of individuals who are not wildly over reacting and over correcting. Go find them and quit obsessing about the effect en masse. Just as with women encountering misogyny, the best answer is to avoid it and find a healthier person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:08 PM
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Actually, that was a very good analogy. Do you imagine it supports your argument for the redditor above to see your rotten food and agree, it is indeed rotten? Does this somehow support your conclusion that all food is rotten? Will you accept the fallacy of your argument if the redditor then adds, they had a delicious filet mignon last night and quite a tasty omelette for breakfast?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:02 PM
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The obvious answer is to get out and meet real people and realize, not all women are man-haters and not all men are women-haters. If all you are hearing is the one take, that is a sign it is time to move out of the bubble for some oxygen and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:56 PM
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Indeed I do. Are you saying that the "real world" routinely asks you if you've ever fucked and you are somehow compelled to answer? In the real world outside of this (anonymous) sub, I can't say I've ever heard of such a rude and invasive thing since highschool and, in high school, almost everyone was a virgin or "low n-count." PSA: In the "real world" if you should actually stumble upon a weirdo who asks if you are a virgin, give them the response the question deserves, a skeptical look of deri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:00 PM
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"Over?" or "in addition to?" I doubt there are many guys who are going to turn down the college girl if it's on offer even if they prefer a cougar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:29 PM
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Naw. The "real world" neither knows nor cares. OTOH, if you are going around telling the "real world" you're male hymen is still intact or whatever, then the "real world" thinks you are very strange and overshare. PSA: If you are a virgin or have a low n-count and that is something you consider a shameful embarrassment, maybe don't bring it up all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:07 PM
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Ah, so you know all women? I think that is pretty unlikely. More like, you are angry at yourself for being navie and getting burned, have seen a few cases that convince you it must be everyone who checks their brain out over a man which makes you feel better, and, came here to find agreement from a bunch of incels who hate women and love to find one who agrees with them that women are awful and stupid. Your "pattern" does not apply to all women. Maybe try a different social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:03 PM
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Weird that you project your own foolishness onto all women. (And the "pick me" part is that you come HERE to make your generalities. What is it you are trying to achieve becuase if you sincerely believe "all women [insert any claim at all here]" then your naivete is not a past tense issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:55 PM
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Is this established for most men and most sexual encounters? If so, I wonder how women feel and suspect it is the opposite for them, which might explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:07 AM
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A contender? What are the other challengers 'cuz this was an easy win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:45 PM
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Women made me vegan, gay, and religious! Why won't they give me the sex??? Now I must go kill other people. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:44 PM
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Not redditor you are replying to but I do have empathy. It sucks when someone dies and it sucks when someone doesn't find love or companionship. What is absolutely non--sympathetic is a response of "lets blame women for every thing that sucks including war." That's not only non-sympathetic, it's bizarre and pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:42 PM
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I'm confused, does your girlfriend not have sex with you but has had sex with other men before? I can see how that would be confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:26 PM
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Yeah, but you are pretty sure they are voluntarily working as your Uber driver and if they are being forced to do it against their will, it is not you assaulting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:50 PM
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If more women chose prostitution ( if stigma is reduced) ands chose their clients I don't know that more women would choose prostitution if it was legal and I really doubt the stigma of prostitution would be much reduced even if it was legal. One temperature check would be asking men who support legalized prostitution if they would marry someone who had been a prostitute. If not, then, you've got some serious stigmatization. As for choosing their clients, surely that defeats your main purpose - …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:46 PM
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I think those are considered two different things - maintenance sex done solely to service the relationship with no particular expectation of enjoying it and "responsive desire" where a person doesn't feel "horny" but agrees to sex anyway because they have historically got into it once it got going. Frankly, in either case, I imagine most people of either sex is fine with it so long as that isn't the only type of sex they are having with that partner and there is genuine care and affection betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:39 PM
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Working off the assumption that you read Makuta_Servaela's post, may I ask how you feel about the idea of getting legal access to transactional sex if this is how the one selling the service actually feels about it? Frankly, I'd rather have sex with a fleshlight then fuck someone I knew was enduring it and trying to disguise how distasteful it was. In fact, they'd have to pay me ... a lot for that humiliating and unsexy experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:36 PM
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LMAO. Thankyou. That was extremely illustrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:13 PM
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"So many?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:11 PM
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Yes and no. Moving in together for those who are not compatible as roomates and not just sex partners introduces new points of possible irritation. OTHO, in a relationship (as opposed ot a hookup) where the couple does not live together, there are different irritants that can build and impact desire. For me, the ideal would be a good lover and interesting partner who lives right next door. Living across town would be a pain in the ass and the sex would have to be increasingly good to counteract …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:56 PM
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That sounds like someone who likes and appreciates their partner to me. I mean, wouldn't you love it if your partner showed the same thoughtfullness? Wouldn't it make you happy and relaxed? Isn't it easier to feel sexy and sexy feelings when you are loved, appreciated, happy and relaxed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:46 PM
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Recommend you do not marry a trad wife if you do not want to be a trad husband. Problem fixed. Note, both trad wives and trad husbands are extreme minorities currently hyped up on social media which gives the weird impression they are common. They are not unless you are thinking of Grandma and Grandpa's generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:40 PM
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IMO, yes it would. And if you feel that way, too, then surely you understand what the redditor you are replying to is saying? To the extent that some men will not agree, how much of that is due to 1950's social norms that suggest that is the only deal men have that will grant them access to women and sex? For those who argue women still insist on that, no, no they do not, as a whole or even a majority (in western non religious cultures and relationships without young children). That SOME women m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:33 PM
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You do not think financial "incompatibility" is a major conflict generator in relationships? Aren't financial issues the number one issue that leads to breakups of long term relationships? I'm sure many men can (or think they can) disregard annoyance or anger with a partner impacting their libido for that particular partner but I think it unlikely it has a neutral or positive effect on male libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:22 PM
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Probably a good assumption for any man inclined to take that advice. Relationships are hard, take work, and take commitment and communication skills. Not strengths of the immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:18 PM
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For the first, there may be an instinctive understanding to not blur the lines between mothering and sexual desire. Before that edges into "kink shaming" for those who indulge in that, I'd be curious to hear how many who like to play those fantasies actually have children, also. And if so, how do they juggle that duality? For the second, low level and frequent irritation with a partner is a libido drag. Irritation with a partner that one shares space and a lot of time with is inevitable. If it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:16 PM
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I think this is exactly the problem with the "n count" policing crowd. They don't want a woman contaminated by other men's dirty, icky, kootied, penis'. That their own penis is passing kooties along is like trying to view the back of your head, though. To the extent it is acknowledged as problematic, the "solution" put forth by a redditor above is the need for prostitution where some poor women are designated and condemned as the necessary evil of being the one to contain all penis kooties for u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:14 PM
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Also, "I fucked her." Not, "We had sex." OP needs to learn that when he is running around trying to do something to a woman that is couched in the language of assault or "winning" or an imbalanced trade where he sneaks one over on her, that, surprise, surprise, they might not be interested in participating and might go so far as to call out his creep behavior. The idea is that it will be fun for both parties and that is what should be conveyed (and delivered). "Why won't she let me have the sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:07 PM
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YES!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:02 PM
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It is demonstrably NOT "hardwired into us." It is a preference almost entirely fostered by situational realities that no longer exist. Now, it is "soft wired" at best, like a preference for Asians or someone with a sense of humor. Quit erasing human will and critical thinking. If your concern is that a woman not foist a child, not yours, onto you, that does not require some intact, semi mythical hymen. If your concern is current or future competition, virginity is not a guarantee, at all. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:58 PM
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Why, as well as when and has there been growth (or the opposite)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:52 PM
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LMAO, excellent point!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:51 PM
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BDSM - the "M" is for enjoying pain. The "S" is for enjoying inflicting pain. MMA is more likely to be dominated (hah!) by those in the "S" category. There is something more disturbing about enjoying inflicting pain on someone whe does not like pain then someone who does, I would say. You can find it odd and disturbing to imagine even the idea of someone enjoying pain (I do, too) but then, not everyone is wired the same or has the same life forming events. I have tried to find the "runner's high…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:17 PM
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No, the "M" is for enjoying pain. In MMA you have two doms either of whom may or may not be "S" or "M." And yeah, they want to win so they don't wnt to get punched but they go into the ring damnwell knowing that is part of the sport that they, presumably enjoy. Is your issue that of pursuing pain as part of specifically sexual enjoyment (i.e. a kink?) because, as with MMA, it aint my thing either but that's pretty judgey of you to shame others for what they like in a consensual situation. That p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:53 AM
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Cool, now reconcile that with boxing, football, wrestling, and martial arts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:35 AM
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There's a dude who posts regularly here who comments that any man should dump a girl who doesn't show immediate sexual interest. He gets upvoted regularly. I'll grant you that promoting dumping of girls who don't put out on the first date is not "shaming" or harrassment, per se but it certainly is a conflicting message from a male sub. Not sure what a girl is supposed to think in the catch 22 of men who wnat a virgin but also want someone who puts out early and often or she will be dumpted. Now,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:54 PM
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It's a terrible proxy. If a certain type of physical task is the core of the job, to test for anything but ability to do that physical task is ridiculous. To assume "candidate A has a penis and can therefore shoot and march with a heavy pack???" Have you looked around at "penis havers?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:13 AM
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Are you seriously suggesting girls who do not want to have sex are not mocked, shamed and harrased routinely by their dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:10 AM
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THIS is the key. Work fitness should always be determined by ... fitness for the work. Not sure why this is so hard. If being in the infantry requires trudging around with a fuckload of weight on your back and being able to shoot straight than that should be the test. Why set up some weird proxy like genital configuration as a substitute for task performance because some people are uptight and more focused on "should" and excluding others?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:53 PM
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Weird, I was recently at a sorroity party where a girl who had just "finally" had sex was baked a big penis cake and celebrated and two that were still virgins were mocked. Are you seriously suggesting girls who do not want to have sex are not mocked, shamed, and harrassed routinely by their dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:04 PM
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I think you are making some good points here though I would add, the redditor you are responding to is correct in that equating what you read on line to all or most women is very foolish given algorithms. (That said, that redditor almost certainly suffers from the down sides of algorithms, also). But, I agree, most guys are just guys and as fine and decent, blawed and of worth as most women. They are equally worthy of partnership if that is what they are looking for and if that is what the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:07 PM
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I haven't seen much evidence you need to have a job to get laid. Maybe you need a job to get married and start a family but if you are just looking to get laid, the number one thing is to get out in society where people are and to come across as worth and likely to bring a good fuck to a partner. Frankly, I'm bemused at the push back from gaming culture against welcoming like minded girls. A hobby that appeals to many non conventionally sexy boys who are also horny as fuck but don't get out much…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:30 PM
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Dumbest competition ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:17 PM
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Dude, good idea. Fat men need and deserve support too. Be the change!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:16 PM
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Women are also "shamed" for being virgins, also for not being virgins; for being unemployed and "gold diggers," also for being employed and independent; for being short and fat and unattracive all the damn time because their only value is in their looks; for being "loners" causing "male loneliness" but also for being social or, god forbid loving and having sex but also for not loving and having sex; for having children and for not having children; for being single mothers but also for sticking w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:14 PM
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The difference is in understanding and accepting the consequence of actions taken and not taken. Most of us could lose weight, be more interesting, present a more attractive package. It is a choice not to (and a valid one, I might add). But it is a choice to not maximize one's attractiveness and appeal to others for one's own reasons and that choice has ridiculously obvious costs. Ah, well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:04 PM
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That was pretty insightful. I don't worry about the nerds living at home and carrying a breifcase but fuck those who attempt to weaponize and radicalize the misfits and throw them onto the frontlines of some manufactured war shit. They traffic in unhappiness and stoke anger for their own gain, and don't give a shit about the canon fodder they create. And you are right about Luigi. People need to give a thought to what they are encouraging if murder is ok, at least if you are good looking and dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:01 PM
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Love that last paragraph. I love men, too. Not gonna throw women under the bus and advocte for forced sex, for chrissake, because any decent man would be like WTF, that doesn't help it just compounds the pain. But, I can address loneliness and social disconnection with the men I know. We have brothers and sons and classmates and neighbors. They have value and this gender war bullshit is fucking weird and artificially enhanced. Definitely time to touch, mow, and weed the grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:54 PM
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There are very conflicting "biological" and social imperatives, though. With no control over fertility, yes, a woman (and a man if he wants his progeny to survive and prosper) must be selective. That selectivity is in conflict with a powerful sex drive (yes, women generaly have one of those, and if one is unfamiliar with that, uhm, well, that's kind of sad). In a society where women AND men choose to mate long term much later than the onset of puberty and a sex drive, how is it that a woman exor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:34 PM
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Not sure why the assumption is women have to "drop all your standards" in order to have sex with a lot of different men? I thought the point was it was easy for women to have sex with men including "high quality" men? What standards would they be dropping and whyt would it indicate they were "basically a failure?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:25 PM
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So, you are all for hypergamy you are just changing the players so you are the "hyper" in the game? Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:14 AM
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I think this is it. In the past, a woman choosing to be alone was an anomaly. Most people paired up. Men who are struggling in this changing market and want to pair up (or fuck a lot) think back with nostalgia to that time when more women were likely to "settle" realistically, yet, absurdly, at least on this sub, men also complain about women getting realistic and settling for the reasonable, non-Chad. There are also frequent posts that no man should settle for a woman who isn't instantly horny …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:12 AM
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Interesting topic. BTW, I agree with the title. Yes, we should though I find several of your sources sus and/or weak. I would add that the military, since it bacame all volunteer has served exactly this function for our society which is pretty weird but it is truly the most effective social program in uplifting boys, particularly, ever implemented. It highly encourages pursuing education funding it before, during, and after active duty both in higher education and trades training providing tutor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:10 PM
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There sure as hell is if you are the woman unwillingly growing that fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:46 PM
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Human brains allow for thought and choice and the exorcise of free will. To disregard that in order to enforce physical servitude and slavery to another organisms is anathema.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:34 PM
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Not sure why you phrase it "invest in a system that doesn't appreciate me." I don't give a shit about a "system." I'm looking for a partner. That the "system" has changed a lot since dad and grandpa's day is what it is. OLD is just weird and toxic, more often than not. So, yeah, I don't "invest" in it. Meeting people through friends, activities, etc still works just fine, though and it's clear a lot of people are also looking for a partner. Many of them aren't photogenic (or self absorbed and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:26 PM
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What is it you think women shoujld accept or adapt to in this context? Accept that they do not feel lust for most men? Pretty sure most women accept that. Adapt though, seems like it would take two possible routes, either decide that relationships without lust aren't worth it and check out of the pairing up scene or decide that companionship without lust is preferable to being along and live without lusting ones partner. Don't you think that is exactly what we are seeing - some women choosing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:19 PM
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That seems sensible. But that message is a bit tortured and unclear when most who post here are clearly wanting women to sex them and not Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:11 PM
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What is the "compromise" you are looking for? Women to fuck men they aren't attracted to? Women to somehow force themselves to be attracted? How the hell does that even work?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:33 AM
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Nah, he is suggesting that, if this is reality and immutable (as is suggested here repeatedly ... that the issue is biological in nature) than maybe it makes sense to accept it and adapt in the interest of not being a cranky bitch and getting a little contentment out of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:30 AM
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? I don't demonize men who teach? WTF are you talking about???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:53 PM
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Better question is why would a woman rather be alone than with some of these guys complaining here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:20 PM
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That tracks with reality. Good job. Mind you, I don't blame men fantasize about a really hot girl falling for them because they have a great personality or whatever. This is standard fiction/fantasy for women too. What amazes me is the men seem to react to reality with "I've been lied to and cheated!" The girls, OTOH, always knew that Sleeping Beauty got kissed by the prince because she was gorgeous and if she had been "Sleeping Average Girl" he would have shrugged and gone to play rugby with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:59 PM
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Ah, so not "systemic misandry in the education system" perpetrated by female teachers? Please change your title, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:00 PM
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That the majority of teachers are women has been the case for a very long time, yet our fathers and grandfathers seemed to manage better than boys today. Why would that be if the fault is "female teachers" and, to the very small extent classrooms have changed, it is in a way that addresses how boys are different? The big differences in the classroom are more emphasis on "hands/on" and project learning vs memorization and rote learning and in the cursed standardized tests. And boys are less disad…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:51 PM
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Beautiful and stunningly healthy response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:06 AM
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Society? I don't see it. Momma's boy is always an angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:04 AM
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Damn, award for the most insightful philosopher of the day!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:04 AM
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That sounds like an accurate read but add those same men (or at least redditors here) argue that no one should tie themselves down with someone who isn't instantly attracted to them and divorce any woman who "dead bedrooms." We want women forced, by gov't or shame, to pair off with every/any man and like it, dammit! The beatings will continue until happiness achieved. I keep coming back to this sub waiting to see reconciliation or at least acknowledgement of all the conflict, not between men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:03 AM
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"... on twitter" Yeah, twitter is representative of a group but not representative of women in general. Sorry, dude. Suggest you consider women who aren't fans of twitter just for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:30 AM
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Women do not prefer "dad bods" and I challenge you to support that claim. Is there a woman or two out there who does feel more comfortable with a man in a dad bod? Yeah, probably, but that is the outlier or a woman who misunderstood the question as "do you like your guy even though he has a 'dad bod?'"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:33 PM
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Yes, and that is a problem a lot of men point out yet, guess what rxn you get when you suggest they should help solve the problem and go into teaching? But the point is, OP is blaming WOMEN teachers specifically. That suggest male teachers are not doing the same thing. I'd like to see the receipts because my experience suggests that is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:09 PM
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Are you saying male teachers do not grade boys harsher, do not punish them worse and do take into account #3?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:50 PM
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No, the problem is turning away allies against oppression because you want to be the winner of the oppression game. Jesus what a shitty thing to win. This is like the women who brush off male victims of rape because women get raped more and worse. Congratulations. Your race got fucked harder as a group than white women as a group. Clearly, white women should shut up and endure the fucking and certainly never speak out against the oppression of black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:59 PM
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Everyone knows divorce is a common thing but the ideal is "happyily ever after."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:53 PM
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I would add that in a relationship, there is time and incentive to attempt to close that "orgasm gap" by exploringing and sharing preferences. For some, part of the gap is just not having time to get comfortable with a short term partner. Getting naked can be a challenge, farting during sex can be humiliating instead of hilarious, and getting your freak on impossible. A longer term partner offers the potential of "security" (for lack of a better term) that strangers just cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:53 PM
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Logically, she should then be submissive to the boss? Is he hot, I wonder?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:42 PM
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In my partnership, it's a negotiation. Almost always someone cares more about whatever the issue is than the other and we tend to "take turns". It does depend on what you mean by "important" though. Buying a house is pretty important - I wanted smaller, less commute, and closer to town and things to do, they wanted bigger and in the country. I ended up agreeing to the latter for better schools (and resale value), a great garage, and the car I wanted from the savings to sweeten the commute. Kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:40 PM
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I don't know any woman, in fact I have never heard of a woman who has said or been unwilling to admit they think hot guys are hot. Now exactly what constitutes "hot" can vary a bit as there is a huge difference between some k-pop skinny pretty boy, buff and grungy Hugh Jackman, and cerebral and older Harrison Ford. If you are running into some who do, perhaps they are trying to be diplomatic and not hurt your feelings. Or they are saying they like them hot AND smart not a dumb jock with bulging …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:28 PM
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I'll go with the side that supports the Constitution, promotes health care, doesn't threaten our allies Canada and Greenland while supporting Putin, doesn't push religion, supports releasing the Epstein files and prosecting pedophiles of every party, doesn't encourage and then pardon a riot to storm the Capitol and threaten to hang congressmen and the VP, supports education, supports access to abortion, doesn't stand in the way of developing energy alternatives and doesn't give handouts to oil/g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:15 PM
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Ah, yes, the "Oppression Olympics." If you know white women who are equating their experience with black slavery, back away carefully and let them dring their pinot grigio without an audience. However, sorry, women, white and brown, and black and every color have been oppressed and are still being horribly oppresed and treated as subhuman in the world. But, don't worry, it's not a contest or a zero sum game. If you are a black man, no one sane thinks that marital rape being fine in grandma's day…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:05 PM
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So I’ll ask the uncomfortable question: how many women who claim to be sapiosexual are actually turned on by pure intelligence — and how many are just using it as a flex? First, let me say, the biggest error I see people making on this sub is black and white thinking. This question isn't "uncomfortable" to answer but it's worded so that it is unanswerable. Still I'll take liberties and answer what one assumes was meant: When a man says he loves big boobs, does that mean he'd never date or fall i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:11 PM
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