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You are conflating positive alpha and negative beta, and negative alpha and positive beta traits when replying to me, and that’s why you’re misunderstanding my premise. Honestly I dont agree with how you defined all of the traits. Being a provider is not a beta trait. You’re beta if your only use to a woman is being a provider. -Sigmas are not “Chad”… I meant in terms of looks but I feel like you’re reading a horoscope to me lol. People dont fit neatly into these defined boxes. Decent looks clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:20 PM
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Men can appear to be beta to other men, yet actively come across as alpha to women. Generally these men tend to be characterized as sigma and it’s attractive as hell. Attractive sigmas clean up if they’re high on beta traits. I dont think the kind of guys I’m talking about are seen as alpha. They’re the rare genuine nice guy Chad. Pretty much the disney prince that most women want. Looks are not going to keep a woman happy if he’s insecure, neurotic, afraid of his own shadow, incapable of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:22 PM
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Contrary to what this sub thinks as a group, women do adjust their standards over time (and so do men) based on feedback they receive from the opposite sex, life goals, bio timeline, and desperation. People settle. I dont think that’s anything new. The ones that dont tend to end up as incels and femcels. A physically attractive “beta” (to mean low alpha/high beta) can still have a dull/awkward personality, fail to build attraction, and not seal the deal - in which case a woman will choose an alp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:51 PM
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Men are shallow and superficial when it comes to choosing a partner. Their standards arent high when they want to use a woman for sex. I’m sorry you’ve had that experience and there are a lot of assholes out there. I will never defend the ways I’ve seen men treat good women. I just wish as a collective we could all agree humans are a bunch of shallow selfish assholes. Not 100% of us but enough that it should be expected when trying to date. I’m just tired of the bs Disney fantasies being pushed.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:35 PM
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I truly dont think that matters As long she finds you attractive you can act however you want A physically attractive “beta” would be the dream man for a lot of women. A physically attractive “alpha” is a traditional woman’s dream man. The common denominator is the physical attractiveness. The rest varies per woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:26 PM
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This is why the “tale of the tape” doesn’t include height or reach stats Oh wait, it does That doesnt nullify or counter my argument. Height and reach CAN help. Weight is what consistently gives a competitive advantage hence weight classes being separated. Look up reification and map-territory error Ugh more attempts at pseudo intellectualism. You’re pretending you have a more objective view of the world. Do you even have combat training? I think what bugs me most about modern libs is your smugn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:24 PM
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Again, it matters, but only if you are able to attract her in the first place. It does not, by itself, build atraction. Which is my point and why ultimately it doesnt matter It’s ancillary to attraction Having those qualities without attraction just makes you a friend. Like you said a woman may eventually settle but that’s not what she actually wants. That’s how you end up in deadbedrooms or in my situation where my wife wants someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:10 PM
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Miss I’m in my 30s. I tried since I was 18. I’ve been turned down due to my height and humiliated for my dick size. I thought I found a woman that didnt care about either and ended up marrying her. I’ve now learned she’s not attracted to me and what she actually wants is a redpill guy with a big dick. There’s nothing left for me to try. I truly dont mind if women are picky or superficial. I just dont like the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:45 PM
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And the vast majority of people are saying she is in the wrong. The vast majority of comments agree with Joey. You’re not listening to me. I DO NOT CARE IF PEOPLE AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH HER. I DO NOT WANT TO GO VIRAL FOR BEING NEAR A WOMAN AT THE GYM. Another key point is that she is a Stacy. Maybe don’t pursue women who look like fitness models. That guy wasnt even pursuing her. I’ve seen countless videos of guys doing normal gym stuff. There was one with a plain looking woman insinuating a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:04 PM
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Yes you need social skills and to know how to interact with women But stuff like being a good person or kind or honest doesnt really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:52 PM
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Do you not realize how Joey Swoll gets wind of the videos in the first place? They go viral from the woman posting it on tiktok while playing victim. My point isnt even about the consensus. I wouldnt want to go viral at all because a woman decided to post me for being in her vicinity. And how do you think most small talk begins? Usually you look at a person before walking up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:50 PM
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In combat sports we use weight classes exist instead of height classes for a reason. All you’re doing is making it clear you have 0 knowledge of how fighting works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:46 PM
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https://x.com/TheJoeySwoll/status/1799176520860373210 There’s one but he has a bunch of them if you go through his videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:38 PM
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I dunno Y’all seem to want good looking men just as much as men want good looking women Being redpill is just accepting people are shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:18 PM
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No I dont think most women are like FDS I think FDS was just brutally honest about desires but they were completely delusional about expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:08 PM
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It’s all over social media too Unless you’re really attractive you’ll just be labeled a creep for talking to her. Women have been pretty open about the “ick”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:09 AM
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You laugh but im not trying to go viral for even breathing in a woman’s direction at the gym I’ve seen way too many videos of men being called creeps for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:07 AM
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Go on the twoXchromosome subreddit to see what women think of men They treat all cold approaches like harassment Men have finally listened
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:55 AM
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OP means attractive men I guess The rest of us dont count
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:53 AM
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I knew many men that said that They only cared about having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:50 AM
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Being a good man doesn’t hurt your chances with everyone. In fact, it’ll inspire your chances of meeting good people over bad people. Nope In my experience it just increases the odds of finding someone to take advantage of you. The world isnt fair. There’s no karma, there’s no god making sure you’re rewarded for being a good person. And, if all else fails, there is a certain integrity and self esteem thing in knowing you evaluated your morals and made responsible decisions, a pleasure quite comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:34 AM
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Name me anyone that has told you the opposite Men have never hid those facts I think the other poster hit the nail on the head Im neurodivergent I trusted what I was told. I feel frustrated after being gaslit and lied to for so long. Hell I’ve lived my life on both sides. When I was redpill I attracted women way easier. When i stopped being redpill that attraction left. My current wife doesnt even want me anymore despite me being a good husband according to her. She’s attracted to a big dick red…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:27 AM
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Who specifically lied to you? Did you live in a media free bubble while home schooled? How do people not learn really young that being attractive outgoing and fun is the best way to get dates? My family, tv, movies, female friends Women probably aren’t lying about what they want. Someone stating what they want doesn’t mean that this turns them on. Like i can want a nice, funny, down to earth guy but that doesn’t mean anyone that fits that criteria is getting in my pants. The problem is that’s al…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:22 AM
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Yup No one is entitled to anything There’s just a lot of frustration from men who’ve been lied to for generations about men being “visual creatures” and women being different They’re just as visual if not more than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:13 AM
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Not that The fact that women are just as shallow (if not more) as men when it comes to looks We get lied to that being a good person makes us a good man For women that doesnt matter and they’ll choose the attractive asshole over you 11/10 times
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:45 AM
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YES The entire reason redpill is so popular is because bluepill society and women constantly lie to us about what women actually want It’s a gut punch when you learn the hard way you’ve been lied to your entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:28 AM
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I dunno that movie but if she’s hot + crazy then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:22 AM
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The “connection” is manufactured based on how attractive she finds you The halo effect is a real phenomena. If you’re ugly then you’ll give her the ick for the exact same behavior of an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:21 AM
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At the end of the day, your personality and the way you treat people (women in this case) are going to be your best asset. LMAO Neither of those things matter at all when it comes to attracting women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:18 AM
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A “bad woman” is your stereotypical woman with BPD but she’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:15 AM
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No need for the pseudo intellectualism I dont care for your hypotheticals when discussing the real world. Two men a foot apart in height literally cannot be equal physically. It’s a meaningless example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:00 AM
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Yet there’s no statistic to prove that, not to mention it will only validate physical standards, not material standards. Large dick and beauty are not synonymous Is this not about sex and attraction? The point here is that women only want sex with men they find attractive. Will they sleep with men if they’re rich enough? Sure but it’s for the benefits they get outside of the bedroom. According to you, a large dick would do, not necessarily beauty. You have to be attractive enough to get to the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:13 PM
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It’s impossible for them to be completely equal due to proportions A 150 lb 6 foot guy is skinny A 150 lb 5 foot guy could be jacked
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:03 PM
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You’re saying women will 100% orgasm with men they find attractive? Cause otherwise it would be just as much a gamble. No but it’ll be more likely if they’re turned on by him and his larger dick. They get literally nothing out of an experience by sleeping with someone they dont find attractive. No, he still would, he’d just rely on imagination to finish … That would still be him finishing. I’m saying imagine a scenario where the repulsive women came easily and then didnt want to do anything else…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:24 PM
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Again… Because he can still orgasm with them If those repulsive women also left him unsatisfied he wouldnt do it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:09 PM
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Correct But we’re talking specifically about the abortion issues and the main high profile politicians speaking against it are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:44 PM
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Because he could also orgasm from the tree If he couldnt then he’d stick to his hand
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:43 PM
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Typo I meant the majority are pro abortion. Those male politicians are not operating in the best interest of the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:52 PM
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Thanks for proving my point, for men masturbation is not enough nor is it fulfilling, but it is for women cause your sex drive is far lower. Look up the orgasm gap and you’ll understand why you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:49 PM
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Same way you cant imagine what it’s like to be on the bad side of the orgasm gap If you were left unsatisfied by women in most sexual encounters you’d be less willing to sleep with random ones
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:46 PM
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No they arent because the majority are *pro abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:10 PM
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We never disagreed on that. You just assumed that me pointing out that attraction involves many things besides looks means looks don’t matter, which is the source of the red pill claim that women claim looks don’t matter even though they don’t actually say this. This is the point. Morality is irrelevant to attraction. BPers like yourself lie to everyone when you pretend qualities that make you a good person (like honest or kindness) have anything to do with attraction for women. I’m not. You fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:37 PM
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That looks matter for men and women. We finally agree! You literally just said they were lying. See how you can’t even keep your own nonsense straight? Stop being obtuse. Same way we are two men that arent saying the same thing there are different groups of women. Bluepillers like yourself that lie to make themselves feel better and everybody else. Attraction is not only looks. Agreed, I gave you the list. Social skills matter but not morality. Incorrect. Denial
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:17 PM
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Tell that to all the thin, large breasted blondes with a nice ass who can get any man they want. How is that relevant? Did I ever pretend men arent also shallow? People in general are. The difference is men don’t pretend otherwise. Gee, either women are all secretly lying about the same thing, or you’re just wrong. Or women were forced to settle for centuries and now that they dont need men financially they’re becoming more honest. The bad boy trope has always been a thing but a lot of women tod…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:01 PM
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How does you being above average in those areas mean women dont care? I’m short with a small dick. I’ve been turned down due to height. I’ve been humiliated by women due to my dick size. You’re a middle class man telling poor people that money doesnt matter because you’re not rich
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:19 PM
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Tell that to all the great looking men that can get any woman they want Women will lie and say it matters because they dont want people to know how shallow they are. Kindness and honesty without looks just makes you a friend. Looks without kindness and honesty makes you husband material
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:18 PM
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Kindness and honesty are completely irrelevant to most women. It’s a cherry on top but doesnt make you anymore attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:09 AM
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So you’re above average in height and depending on girth either average-big in dick size Is this a humble brag?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:04 AM
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Are you tall, have money, a nice size dick, or really good looking? Having any combo of the above criteria means you’re still attractive no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:02 AM
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Yet women still care about height because they incorrectly attribute protection and masculinity to it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:59 AM
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Im not backing you up You’re pretending it has anything to do with “identity” or “pathology”. It literally just boils down to attraction. The guy can have those same issues and still attract women. If he looks like a Chad he can be anything or treat women anyway he wants. If he isnt attractive enough it literally wont matter what kind of man he is because he doesnt exist to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:32 PM
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Nah They flock to it because they learn all the blue pill stuff is a lie. It doesnt matter how nice you are or how good of a man you are. Are you attractive to her? Yes? You’re good No? You’re an incel or “nice guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:18 PM
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No offense taken because you’re right I’ve noticed on reddit people are obsessed with being perfect for their partners Disney lied to us and very few are looked at as a 10/10 for their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:30 PM
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I believe it’s true that men and women can find love outside the boundaries of their typical sexual standards. In my opinion the rate with which this happens is far greater with women than with men. Yes because women only find a small number of men hot. So they settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:41 PM
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Only dudes not interested in LTRs at the age are the ones with a lot of options You were ignored because you only wanted LTRs with Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:06 PM
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This is such cap Women love and want sex from men they’re attracted to They dont care when they’re settling for men they’re not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:53 PM
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The deadbedroom sub disagrees with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:48 PM
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You can definitely find someone for whom you are reliable and also sexy. Not really Most people arent attractive enough to be sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:28 PM
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AWALT is saying you should behave as if they have the potential to behave that way. That’s why it’s similar to the precautions women take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:36 AM
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They said it’s different because of X. You said “There is no difference” which is just dismissive and not an explanation. You didnt address anything they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:56 PM
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The other poster took the time to explain the difference and in 2 responses you 1) Ignored what they said 2) Dismissed what they said If you disagree why not explain why instead of just pretending their explanation is meaningless? You appear to be discussing this in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:47 PM
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You dont “assume” the worst. You prepare for the worst. Women do the same when they take precautions against potential rape/assault/ and kidnapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:42 PM
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Please point me to the successful small dick porn not involving any type of humiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:21 PM
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Yup You can tell this subreddit knows nothin about black culture lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:33 PM
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They may not use that term but black and carribean women in the US will not hide the fact that they want big dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:25 PM
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Because it’s literally impossible for all men to be 6 feet tall, have 6 inch + dicks, and make atleast 6 figures in income
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:18 PM
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