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To be honest I didn't bother looking. I blocked anyone I got one from immediately as that indicates qualities that would make a bad partner to me. It's either cocky, desperate or both imo, and none of those are enticing. As for the painting thing, I assume you've seen a few comments of mine mentioning art. I'm a 3D artist, though I do have a minor in concept art and do 2D on the side. A few years maybe, but it depends on how quickly you're able to improve the skill and how quality your practice …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:07 AM
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This is a generalization I see a lot. Most women who AREN'T like this don't use dating apps, because they're either not interested in men (due to bad experiences or non-het sexuality), are taken, or don't want to date at all. I tried dating apps for all of 2 minutes and my inbox was blasted with dick pics. A lot of women who just want a best friend and life partner get assaulted with this and a lot of other garbage on these apps and it turns most of us away. The standards I have are just do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:58 AM
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I'm a woman. I'm a professional artist and I'm writing a fantasy novel in my free time. I have a group of writing friends, nd all of them are writing fantasy or sci-fi, and all but 1 are female. My guess is that a lot of the spaces you inhabit as a man are hostile towards women who pose an interest in these things and put them down in one way or another. I have joined literally *dozens* of art groups, writing circles, gaming circles, etc (I am also an avid gamer, both video games and tabletops. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:34 PM
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Clearly it didn't correct your bad grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:10 PM
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You're using your anecdotal experience to make a value judgment against a whole group of people. Maybe get off the dating apps. Everyone knows they're mostly for hook-ups anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:09 PM
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Maybe you need to get off the internet and interact with some real women and realize not every woman are constantly looking for these mythical nightly cock-carousel hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:57 PM
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If she views you as subhuman, she probably wouldn't be interacting with you at all lol, much less be sleeping with you. Virtues can be scoped out as much as you like, but that doesn't mean we can sense lies 100% of the time. If men lie, that's on them, not us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:55 PM
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At least I can spell. That helps when it comes to being logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:53 PM
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As an actual woman I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:34 PM
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I don't care if men just want to score, I care about the dishonesty some men and women have in pursuing people. If a woman is explicitly looking for an LTR and not to sleep around, but a guy wine and dines her to get sex then ghosts, thats what I have an issue with. Same in reverse. But if horny men looking to score a warm fleshlight are hooking up w horny women who are looking to score a warm dildo, have at it. Go ham. I couldn't care less. Bump uglies and get your rocks off. As long as everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:42 PM
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Just stating it doesn't make it true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:55 AM
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It's not fake, its real. How is it any different from a one night stand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:23 AM
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A single "alone" women will always have access to sex and transient physical intimacy, she is rarley if ever touch or attention deprived. She can also gamble with the market and land a relationship if she's honest enough with her standards and persistent. A single "alone" man however is not going to be getting much sex if any unless he's very attractive and he's also going to struggle immensely to get a relationship when he can't even get sex or consistent enough dates. That's the bulk of OPs po…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:15 AM
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Yeah they want to be like, desired by women I guess? But also don't want to put in the work and effort to actually be competitive in this sexual marketplace thing they've made up lol. Then they say they don't want or need validation from women, but then say paying for sex is emasculated because it's not real attraction or whatever. The mental gymnastics are unreal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:03 AM
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I could go years without sex and be fine, but years without anyone to talk to about how im doing or feeling would be far, far worse. I think this is the ACTUAL issue. Sure, men have more difficulty finding relationships, I wont deny that. But Ill also say theyd cope with it a lot better if men formed friendships the way women do. The loneliness would be a lot more bearable and maybe so many men wouldnt fall down the toxic rabbit holes they do if they had better support systems. But this society …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:01 AM
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If your only concern is getting sex, prostitutes exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:53 AM
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That's just not true lol, but keep being mad about your obscure anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:58 PM
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I can't tell if you're agreeing or arguing against my post lol. But I'll go with your agreement yo save myself the time of trying to decipher your somewhat incoherent post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:57 PM
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My ex changed, though he wasn't too great from the start and there were red flags I ignoted because either was desperate for someone to love me. My mother was with my father for over 10 years and he cheated because she gained weight after having me and my sister, then left with the woman he cheated with. It's not as simple as "women make bad choices," it's more like we make what seem like good choices then people change over time. My ex didn't turn abusive until 2 years into the relationship. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:55 PM
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I dont hate men, I just refuse to take them at their word and instead let their actions speak for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:56 PM
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That's a lot of words for "not all men." It's not an assumption, it's a lived experience that ahs proven true time and time again. Men who aren't abusive deadbeats are the exception, not the norm. Of my 10 uncles, only one turned out to not be an abusive asshole to his wife. My dad cheated on my mom when I was 12 and left her for a more attractive woman, leaving my mom to care for 2 children alone. My ex was abusive. He didn't start out that way, but after he found TRP he became as such. He went…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:52 PM
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I dont need a man to pay my bills thx
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:27 PM
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Could maybe increase casual chances if they get chiseled, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:21 PM
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Your perception doesn't reflect my reality. In my life, women have sacrificed immensely for men who betrayed them and left them in the dirt. The daughters of those women saw how men treated their mothers and are leaving men behind in favor of their own happiness. You can pretend that's not the case all you want but until men realize that their behavior and treatment of women is the cause of this, then the current trend won't change. Women aren't going to shack up with a man unless he is a net im…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:15 PM
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I don't really see any solutions to this though, aside from these unsatisfied men to improve themselves to the point they can acquire those thigs. Even with self-improvement though, they're probably not going to be ONS material for most women, even if they might have other great relationship qualities. If you want sex delivered, hookers are an option yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:57 PM
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It's not about not wanting "plain, boring, unexciting," its about not wanting "toxic, controlling, manchild, abusive" etc. There is nothing wrong with average and plain men and women getting together, that's most often not what women are dodging. After my last relationship, which was abusive, I swore off dating cishet men. They're just not worth the risk and trouble they bring to women's lives. They want a mommy, a bangmaid, and someone who serves them hand and foot, gives them sex on demand, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:54 PM
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Agree. I don't disagree w the basic principles of MGTOW, just the misogyny that seems to permeate it. But if being single is working for you and you're happy then by all means, live your best life!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:44 PM
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My thoughts exactly. People should find someone they love and who loves them back. Love is love, regardless if theyre 10/10 or 2/10. As long as they're happy, that's what matters. I don't get why so many people are hung up on things that don't really matter outside that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:55 AM
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A lot of the men here are clearly just upset that they aren't walking into a room and panties just drop. There's more to a relationship than ravenous sex 24/7. As a demi, sex is only somewhat appealing under the exact perfect circumstances. Men here also seem to be very, very insecure that they aren't the "best" looking man a woman has had. If a man wants to be the hottest a woman has had, but refuses to accept a woman who is their looksmatch or slightly below and demand a 7+/10, that's a formul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 01:39 AM
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I don't, but what I DO enjoy is being left alone and not approached by men in random public places. Also, I said I wouldn't be mean, just curt unless I was pushed. Those two aren't the same thing. If men push me after I say no, they don't deserve my politeness or respect, since they clearly don't respect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:42 PM
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I would say "when men can stop being creepy assholes and approach women politely and respect us when we say no, maybe we wouldn't be "rude bitches." I'm not unnecessarily mean, that's not what firm and curt means, but if you're going to be a creep, I'm not going to be polite. This is often what men interpret as "bitchiness," and frankly I'd rather be seen as a rude bitch by low-value and unworthy men than give them the grace of a 10-minute + conversation explaining why I'm not interested in them…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:39 PM
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No, but if I stop being "nice" and switch to being curt and to-the-point, it saves my time and effort. There's no point in having a 10-minute conversation when I could get my point across in a sentence or two and walk away. Men are not entitled to my time, politeness, or energy. Especially if they're going to be weird or creepy. If a man approaches me and is like "nice bag/makeup/skirt" etc other non-objectifying compliment, and I say, "I'm not interested, thank you." That's what I mean by curt.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:34 PM
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Men are not entitled to our politeness if they are going to badger us after we've tried giving a polite no. Maybe you would move on, but hundreds of others have pushed it and we're frankly tired of being told to be polite and then men pushing our boundaries. So you get firm and curt. When you can learn to respect that no means no maybe you'll start to get polite answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:00 AM
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That's not true but keep living in your world. Must be tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:39 AM
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If it's for specifically an ONS, it's more than likely not gonna lead to a relationship. The question/debate is centered around dates with the expectation from both parties that they re interested in a relationship, not a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:11 AM
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And yet I wouldn't be able to find a woman who had sex on the first date anywhere in my sphere of friends who was looking for something other than a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:58 AM
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It could ve maybe she's changed her mind on what she wants for herself and her views on sex and relationships? The reasons he do3snt put out on the first date with you now but had in the past probably has nothing to do with you and more to do with her maturing and growing as a person and realizing what's best for herself. Would you still have a problem in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:56 AM
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The most is implied to carry through the rest of the post lmfao And I would stand by the statement that most women aren't interested in casual sex with strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:11 AM
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Read it again. I said most women, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:07 AM
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I never said they couldn't lmfao, but imo the risks vs positives just aren't worth it. Im also demisexual, so casual sex holds absolutely zero appeal. Other women can do as they will but it's not for me. Also, birth control isn't 100% effective. I still think the overall risk for reward isn't worth it for women, but if other women enjoy sex more they're free to do what they want. As I said, this is my experience/opinion and isn't universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:03 AM
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That's just in my opinion but having casual sex on the first date is a great way to get pump and dumped. If the guy is interested in sex and he gets right away and ghosts after you put out then that's really disappointing. And that's assuming the sex wasnt bad and that he wasn't a psycho murderer. Edit: forgot to include all the risks of sex that are unique to women. Pregnancy etc. Yeah just not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:54 AM
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Yall greatly overestimate how often a lot of women go on dates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:51 AM
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Yeah the more I read this sub the more I realize the men/RPs on here are completely unhinghed from reality and have zero actual understanding of women and how we think/ act. Of course there are individual differences/outliers, but overall women don't bang men on a first date unless its specifically for a hookup date through tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:18 AM
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Most women I know won't have sex until they're fairly certain they want to be with the person they're dating. Sex for women is a net loss for women unless its with someone we care about and who cares about us. I don't see how this is insulting unless the woman is sleeping around with others while dating a man. If a woman is clearly going to wait for sex until she's comfortable, and is not seeing other guys or screwing around, I don't see how its a bad thing to be called husband or boyfriend mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:12 AM
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Thats not true. As long as the contributions are equal then it is equal. You can contribute in ways other than financial. If this isnt true, then what value do housewives provide? Do you not see them as equal human beings with valuable labor that contributes to the household?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:51 PM
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Yeah engineering and math are definitely the ones lagging the most but that doesn't mean progress isn't being made. Women are entering high-pying careers in higher numbers than ever, and I personally see no issue with programs to help get more women with interest getting involved. We have a long way to go, but it's getting better and will hopefully continue to trend more and more towards this in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:17 PM
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Here's one article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/business/dealbook/women-college-economy.html Here's an excerpt: Women have also edged ahead in prestigious programs like medicine, law, and masters and doctoral degrees. While men still hold the lead in business schools, women are gaining ground. And so the usual hothouses that grow captains of industry and political leaders are now dominated by women — though men are still a majority of students in some of the highest paying fields like bus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:15 PM
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The data I'm looking at contradicts the data you say youre looing at, but time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:37 PM
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I could say the same of your point. All the women I know are in tech, engineering, programming etc. I dont know anybody in gender studies or philosophy except for a straight white dude XD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:36 PM
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That's not true lol. I make 6 figures and I know lots of other women who outearn their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:38 PM
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That's not really something that can be proven outside of the anecdotal experiences of men and women collectively, which is largely what this sub's discussions are centered around. From a woman's point of view, it seems to me this issue is clear and well proven. All it take sis a look at TwoXChromosomes, relationship-advice, etc and its clear the majority of women posting in these subs dont have partners who are doing their fair share. That said, women who DO have supportive partners arent posti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:50 PM
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The only part about my post thats addressed is that women are the gatekeepers to relationships and sex, but none of the reasoning was provided. I did read it, but thought it lacked insight or reasoning. If men know what needs to be fixed from women's point of view, then they might have a shot at improving their luck. No need to be rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:45 AM
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And why do you propose women aren't interested? It really comes down to the fact that women are outperforming men in almost every way on average, at least in my age group (late 20s) and younger. Women go to college and get degrees in higher numbers, are earning more, and tend to take much better care of themselves in terms of appearance. Women are more "put together," while a lot of men are still asking their mom how to do their laundry and expecting a 1950s housewife after marriage, which is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:03 AM
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My expectations for modern men are: Strive to be the best they can be at whatever life path they've chosen. They don't go out of their way to be assholes to others, but also have a spine and can stand up for themselves and their beliefs. Have some hobbies and passions. Treat people with respect, kindness, and equity unless they do something that warrants otherwise. Do their fair share in the relationship (housework, planning dates, planning trips, errands, mental load etc). Good at communicating…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:16 PM
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Kay, clearly you have no interest in having an actual conversation and instead choose to run away. Bet you're just confused again and don't know how to reply. Either way, I'll take the W. Peace ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:38 PM
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Also true, but I gotta say though that some women consider a guy asking for their numbers or just saying ''hey'' to them as catcalling or harassment. Thats a minority, not a majority. More likely, women just think "hey" is a weak approach with zero creativity or charm. There needs to be a pretense. "Hey! You dropped this!" etc. If youre cold approaching irl, women want to be charmed, not hit up like theyre a tinder match lol Even though they make zero attempts themselves, so they don't even know…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:27 PM
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Depends on the circumstances. If a guy hits on me and I clearly show disinterest or ask him to stop and he continues, that's harassment. I also consider it harassment if it happens on the street (catcalling) or if it's an inapropriate comment. Most people don't call the cops unless there's perceived danger. Cops barely do anything when sexual assault happens so calling them about harassment is a waste of time. Now, getting HR involved, if possible/warranted, is much more effective. Also, most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:31 PM
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So is your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:01 AM
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Then how is this any different from FDS? Different approach, different methods, but similar goals. A lot of men HATE FDS, but TRP gets a pass... why? They're essentially two sides of the same coin, only men worry about being used. Women worry about being beat and murdered. Men who subscribe to TRP are pretty obvious, even if they think they're being sly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:01 AM
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Generally speaking regular, normal women irl don't really give a shit about the opinions of men they dont know or barely know. I think this is why so many men are angry. Your post is something women learned decades ago and men are just now catching up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:40 AM
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I disagree, I'm in a male dominated field and the amount of passive-aggressive bullshit I see from grown ass men is astonishing. All of the women are chill, get their shit done, and vibe (with one exception). I wouldn't make generalized statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:38 AM
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Or maybe we just don't like being harassed? Not all of us want or care about male attention lol. there are better things I can spend my time doing. Maybe we don't generalize and make blanket statements yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:55 PM
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I'm mak8ng the assumption there are small children/babies involved
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:11 PM
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A lot of the basic core tenants of FDS (better yourself, know what youre worth and dont put up with abusive and shitty behavior, know the signs of escalating abuse etc) are good and helped me escape my abusive ex. My ex didn't physically harm me, but he was very verbally and emotionally abusive. My childhood was rough and though I had a glow-up in my early 20s (late 20s now) my self-esteem was wrecked from decades of childhood bullying then abuse. There are a lot of women that practice the basic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:15 AM
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Emotional abuse, the "privilege" of not having to get a 9-5 and instead working around the clock in the home with zero help, pay or recognition and maybe getting beat or abused if you don't meet his standards, being told you're lesser than him constantly because you're a "fragile, ignorant feeeeemale" Source: ex turned to the red pill halfway thru relationship and it was horrendous. Never doing that again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:32 PM
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Lmfao, thanks for the laughs. Only reason I'm on this sub ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:21 PM
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When did I insult you lmfao? You do realize that "you" can be used in the indirect/impersonal sense? Such a fragile ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:19 PM
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Lmfao im not offended but you clearly are. Good for you but if you think a woman wearing a bathing suit at a pool is a good excuse to harass and/or assault them you have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:16 PM
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The only responsibilities women have is to protect themselves from predatory men who can't control themselves. It's not our fault you can't keep your dick in your pants. If that's an issue you have, maybe see a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:09 PM
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I know dudes who could go a month easily as well. It just doesn't seem like something special unless there's an addiction involved. Also just saying, it shouldn't be women's responsibility to not "tempt" men. Same thing as blaming the victim. That bit of your post just seems like an excuse for society to oppress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:05 PM
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I don't get why masturbation is such a prevalent thing for men. I could easily go for 2-3 months without issue. Yeah I'd be horny but men make a single month without wanking out to be such a huge accomplishment. I find its much more productive to spend my time in other ways than masturbating/ watching porn. I really dont get how people who want sex every day/multiple times a day get anything done lol. Sex and masturbating is more a biological chore for me than anything. I get horny, I do the thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:30 PM
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I understand what you're saying lol, I just disagree with your conclusion. As I said I believe gender is a spectrum (seperate from biological sex) and anybody can be masculine or feminine. In a way gender IS something you prescribe to yourself from whatever internal perception you have of yourself and then uphold on your own terms. I don't believe in some inherent nature and that almost all of the behavioral differences between men and women are a result of social conditioning. That said, this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:15 PM
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I understand what you're saying, it just seems sad and self-destructive to put yourself into such a limiting box. This is also a very vague non answer and plays into the false dichotomy people who prescribe to pill ideology often fall into. You can self-actualize without playing the "us versus them" game that toxic people on both sides of the fence want you to play. You're trying to rail very hard against the idea of "feminism hurts men and makes us(men) victims" when the ideology has come full …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:16 PM
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Its interesting that you say you grew weary of women at a young age. Can I ask what caused this? To be honest I disagree with you quite a bit, as there's still a generalization of "the true nature of women" and the idea that women are somehow all the same. In my own personal experience, I've met women that vary far more drastically in temperament, interests, etc than men, who tend to all be pretty similar. I think this largely goes back to a lot of men still feeling like they have to meet this m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:14 PM
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If you haven't been hurt in this specific context, I'm curious as to why you're RP/MGTOW. I don't think there's anything wrong with advocating for social change around issues that harm men, but a lot of the red pill groups have devolved to echo chambers to judge women as a whole for the actions of a few women the RPs have encountered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:25 PM
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It sounds like you just really hate women by the content of your comments alone. I'm sorry you were hurt but just as men say it's not fair for women to judge a whole sex by the actions of a few, neither is it fair for men to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:50 AM
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I think the context here is "broken in relationships or by someone you wanted/ attempted a relation ship with"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:23 PM
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I care more about people in an individualist optimistic nilhistic sense. We should put ourselves and our own well being first over some antiquated sense of tribalism or even nationalism. Wanting to preserve your tradition and culture is fine for you on an individual level, but other people shouldn't be pressured into sharing or forcibly working towards your values. If you want to be a "traditional man," have a housewife and 10 kids, you do you. But realistically speaking yeah, nobody matters, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:18 PM
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True. This is why I think we should treat people like people first, and not some abstract SMV number. We have enough people on the planet, were not some starving village where every pair of hands and every child is essential. We're a massive global economy with hundreds of thousands of people coming and going every year. I think a lot of people get way too caught up in the whole pill/SM ideology and forget were all just... people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:59 PM
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This would still depend on women donating eggs, which already pays pretty damn well. I've looked into it myself but the hell you have to go through to make the eggs harvest-able put me off. This could work if it was made easier/ more accessible but the reality is, biologically speaking, women will always have more reproductive value than men due to the way gametes function between the sexes. I think a lot of redpill is just men being mad about this, and I think its a big reason society is struct…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:30 PM
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Maybe you're looking in shallow places. Shallow people attract the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:18 AM
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||| didn't understand the power of I understand it's social power, it's just not something that serves me. The only thing "feminine" power gets me are men, and that's just not something I have any use for. I wish I could dress however I want, but it just invites the attention of men which is not something I care about. To each their own. You're perfectly allowed to be attracted to traditionally feminine women. To bring positivity back, all types of people are neat and it'd be awesome if we lived…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:16 AM
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This right here. I'd rather age alone and live my best life than be stuck with some raging pornsick manchild (read: my ex). Women are finally free enough to not put up with men's shit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:05 AM
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Probably the aloof nerdy creative. I was really horribly bullied and am just now trying to move past that trauma, I've never really had anything you could call a best friend. I can count on two hands the number of times I've eaten out at a restaurant with people outside my family. I play a lot of video games and don't really care for parties, drinking or sex. I write in my free time and do a lot of art, and my only real friends are all online. I'd also say semi-goth? I like darker things and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:49 AM
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I'm just really exhausted, even in this thread there's so much harmful generalization about women. It's depressing. It's like women have to be some perfect incarnation of femininity instead of being a person first. Idk maybe it's because I really detest the box of femininity but I didn't mean to be mean or rude. I'm just... so tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:34 AM
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Men have been telling women they're weak and insignificant for all of time. Femininity has been demonized by men, and now men are surprised when women want to pull away from the gender binary or gender roles. Everyone would be a lot happier fi they werent obsessed with sex and gender and just did what they wanted and left everyone else alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:14 AM
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All of my relationships started out as friendships first. My current BF started off as a friend of a friend that I reconnected with through a D&D group. I hung out w him and his friends more because my ex best friend was in that group too, and they were all fun to play games with. Fast forward about a year. I had just broken up w my shitty ex (who I had been planning on leaving due to emotional abuse and had to slowly extract myself for safety reasons) and I had been living on my own for about f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:05 AM
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As a survivor of abuse, that's just objectively untrue. Dead bedrooms happen for all sorts of reasons, but it starts with men treating women poorly or inequitably. Women stop caring because men stop being what we were promised when we married - kind, loving partners. Instead, we get this: https://www.thehotline.org/stakeholders/domestic-violence-statistics/ Your refusal to hold men accountable for any sort of negative action tells me you're not worth conversing with. I sincerely hope whatever wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:16 AM
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If someone dropped a big giant bomb on patriarchy tomorrow, the day after women would be desperately trying to reinstitute it or turn into lesbians. The patriarchy is a reflection of female sexuality, and it really has little to do with men. Women initiate divorces largely because the men become absent or abusive, or there is a mismanagement of money somewhere. Also, infidelity, which goes both ways but men cheat more often than women after marriage (https://comparecamp.com/cheating-statistics/#…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:53 AM
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You have a really skewed worldview my dude. Thats not reality at all, and if a woman's promotion is such a threat to a man's perceived inner value of himself then thats on him, not her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:36 AM
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I don't give a shit if my partner makes less than I do. I made twice what my ex made and one reason we split up was because HE was upset that I made more than him. I didn't care, but eh insisted he wasn't manly because he didnt make more than me. That was on no one but himself. I'd be fine with a childfree marriage with a house husband to do all the chores tbh, and most of my female friends feel the same. Times are changing. Its up to you if youw ant to keep up with them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:28 AM
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Maybe some women but generally I see men be more toxic to other men, calling each other weak for expressing emotion and seeking help. That's not on women. You guys enforce that on yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:24 AM
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It exists because men perpetuate it through enforcing toxic masculinity on each other. Women are starting to break free of it and not put up with it anymore. Its why so many women are doing the single forever and childfree thing. Men cant meet our standards because theyre forcing each other into toxic emotional mindsets that make them incapable of being loving, caring partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:34 AM
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Im literally saying that men need to work for it if they want it, and that this situation of men being unable to express emotion is due to toxic masculinity. How and where was my comment shameful and where did I say that men aren't people? Did you even read my full comment? Men are people who, like all people, deserve love and support, but its something that is earned through cultivating relationships. Where do you disagree with me here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:30 AM
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Women have larger support groups in general because we are socially conditioned to be emotional caretakers and foster relationships. Men, generally speaking, turn inward and don't have that same level of emotional programming and tend to let relationships wither more frequently than women do, on average. This is a result of toxic machismo that paints the universal human need for emotional support as weak or feminine, and results in emotionally castrated men who are both unable to reach out for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:12 PM
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My ex fiance was radicalized by the far right. He had always been kinda edgy but he went from making just the occassional edgy joke when with his bros to full blown neonazi. Yeah sometimes you can see it before hand, but also people change, and you don't always know what will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:25 PM
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Also people change over time. Men who once put in effort stop doing so etc. Because they feel like they don't have to anymore. Women do this too, but you see it more often with men. They say theyll do their share of the housework or raising the kids then nope! They stop because it's "women's work". Why should they? They're married!! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 08:06 AM
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I didnt marry him though lmao, we were engaged but never married and this is one of the reasons why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 08:03 AM
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My ex made half what I made but because I started working from home during covid, he stopped doing ANY chores at all and expected me to do everything. Like, I was still working!!!! Wtf? I would have been fine doing a bit more because i no longer commuted 2hrs/ day but I am NOT a housewife, and thats really what he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:55 AM
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Marriage was historically only about business transactions and familial bonds to foster business, ESPECIALLY when you get into nobility but even the lower class maneuvered this way. Marrying for love is a fairly recent concept. Where both people are high earners is the grey area. I'd be fine with introducing something that would be a universal basic income that maintains lifestyle of the person receiving alimony (house, car, etc). That would be more incremental based, and if the person who would…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:53 AM
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To your first point, I already said the majority is from men to women, so thanks for the redundancy. No, women (or homemakers male or female) should not be forced to do unpaid labor for an ex, because alimony exists to protect people who gave up their lives and careers so that the high earner could work. Homemakers have virtually no way to earn money aside from poverty-wage jobs. This is literally the entire point of alimony, to protect people who have no marketable skills because they gave up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:47 AM
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...you do realize that if the woman was the primary earner she would also have to pay alimony/ child support? Alimony isn't really gendered. You can argue that men typically earn more sure, but then if men dont want to worry about alimony (which if youre thinking this way outside of the necessity of a prenup why are you even getting married?) as a possibility then men need to find themselves career women who make more. Pool is smaller but it does exist. I am one of those women. I make over doubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 01:11 AM
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That's great! But also, this is sort of an example of what I'm talking about. A 4/10 man not wanting anything below a 7/10 woman and only "considering" looks matches (5/10) is an example of the double standard a lot of women have to deal with. It's maddening. Again though, I'm glad it worked out for you, seriously. Looks aren't everything and I guess that's sort of what drives me nuts about this whole lookism stuff. A lot more people would be happier if they gave people who have other good trait…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:55 PM
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It's the unfortunate truth but I dont fault men for wanting attractive women. So long as you're also in that range (7/10) I don't think having a baseline is unreasonable, and even then other things can honestly boost you up a point or so, like personality and compatibility etc. What I fault them for is the double-standards women have to deal with, and also the men who are below 5/10 whining about wanting women who are 7/10 or higher and not doing anything to better themselves to get the girl of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:41 PM
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I can attest to this. I'm 5'8", used to be close to 200lbs. Was diagnosed diabetic and got my shit together, lost 50lbs and am now well within the average BMI for my height/ build. I fit women's small but used to have to wear large. Men didn't give a shit about me until I lost the weight. It didn't matter that I graduated from a prestigious art university and am talented in various creative crafts and have a good, well-paying job. It didn't matter that I have a good sense of humor or enjoy a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:22 PM
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Yeah I guess that my beef with red pill- it's being used to turn otherwise pretty normal men into these hateful people who are shadows of themselves, not because of the original thing red pill stands for (male self improvement and leveling the playing field a bit in dating), but everything that has forcibly conscripted it. QAnon, incels, nazis, hateful MGTOWs, other extreme right wing ideas and groups. For my ex it started with just the red pill but it certainly didn't end there, and it ruined a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:51 PM
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As a woman I don't feel threatened by male self-improvement or for men looking out for their own self-interests so long as it doesnt fall into abusive or manipulative territory, but im just so, so very tired. Its become a haven for incels and other misogynists. My ex fell into the red pill/ bitchute/ parler hole and within three months we went from being engaged to broken up. I miss who he was before that. I miss the kind, loving person he was before he found this hate, but the person he became …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:02 AM
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So long as they're not hating on women who have lots of casual sex while they themselves are having lots of casual sex and lots of partners, i have no issues. Just don't be a hypocrite yknow? Don't go around and say women who sleep around a lot are sluts while you're also sleeping around a lot and think its perfectly fine/ "different cos ur a man" (using ambiguous indirect you, not you specifically just to be clear)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:02 AM
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Fair. Doesnt mean its not hypocritical though. I hate hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 02:04 AM
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True enough I suppose. I dont have an issue for men who simply ask, but the ones who actively hate on women who have lots of partners while they themselves have lots of partners are the worst. I hate hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 02:03 AM
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Never said they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:39 PM
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Men only have a right to ask for low n count women if they are also low n count men. Man hoes do not get to sit there while touting a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:34 PM
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Dude who hurt you lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:17 PM
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Do you live in the real world? Because it sounds more like you live on incels.me and red pill forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:08 PM
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Yeah forget all us women who have high paying jobs and are in a stable relationship with men who make less than we do. I literally bought my fiance a car. I pay most of our bills but he contributes what he can. Apparently we don't exist looool
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 08:16 PM
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Tbh this guy just sounds like he wants an excuse to do the exact same thing he DOESNT want in a woman. Men: I can have a hugh n count and demand a low n count woman at age 30!!! Woman: I also want a low n count man because I've waited for the right one for me! Men: Wow, what a Karen cunt!!!!! This is exactly what TRP and men like this want. They set standards they themselves don't want to follow. The hypocrisy is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:49 PM
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I never said it was, only that it would help, moreso for a relationship than casual sex. I'm not going to date an asshole. Incels have this idea that women date assholes, and a lot of them do, especially younger, because we have our own problems to work through. A lot of us go through mental and emotional abuse, look for people who feel "familiar" and treat us the way we're used to being treated or feel that we deserve the abuse for whatever reason. It's a massive problem, especially against you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:34 PM
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You live in a "fairy world" if you think it won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:32 AM
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Not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:31 AM
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I didnt disprove myself. Just pointing out the mindset some of these men have. Relationships aren't the end all, be all of life, but they seem to think it is. Like life has no value without one. They don't know how to live for themselves and think having a gf will make their problems go away. It won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:30 AM
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These types of men care. I couldn't care less about getting laid. Thats exactly the issue - men put way too much value on getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:28 AM
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Considering almost all of the women I know are in long-term relationships, I don't see how its only a "small proportion of men" who get into relationships. If there are roughly the same number of men and women, then the majority of men must also be in relationships if the majority of women are, no? To me, all this 80/20 stuff seems to come from inexperienced edgy highschool kids who are angry they can't get laid by Stacy. Incel mindsets are toxic and get otherwise fine young men stuck in a negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:43 PM
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I get the anger some of these guys feel. Its the same kind of anger feminists feel. The difference is, his biggest problem is that he can't get laid. For women, we don't even have basic human rights or safety. We aren't seen as human beings, were seen as walking fleshlights and props in the lives of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:23 AM
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Thanks friend. Some of these guys are a complete lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:26 PM
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The only person I had was my mom. I didnt have friends. This is what i mean. All these guys coming here and telling me I had it easy when I didnt. You don't want to accept that women can suffer too. You see our lives through rose tinted glasses. Even with my now fiance, I still struggle with depression and anxiety. I still have bad thoughts. A relationship won't magically solve all your problems, but i can say it does make things a little easier. Maybe if you guys weren't so bitter towards women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:14 PM
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Yeah, because it feels so great to be seen as an object and not as a person. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:26 PM
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Relationships aren't the end all, be all of life lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:25 PM
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Your inability to sympathize with women as human beings is why you'll be alone forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:51 PM
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You're still not listening. I was SUICIDAL. How much worse does it get than that? I had to do more than just lose weight. I had to learn how to care for my fine, frizzy hair. I had to learn fashion and how to dress. How to style and present myself. The only thing I dknt have in your list of requirements is muscles. I had to learn to be social, had to work for a good job, had to work to not be an awkward and weird twat, I earned my money and my status. I went from dirt poor to upper middle class …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:50 PM
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Maybe the popular and pretty girls, but you just proved my point by ignoring everything I said in my post. My life was hell. But you don't listen because I'm a woman. Before college I was maybe a 3/10. Post college, I've lost weight and learned how to take care of myself, So im maybe a 7/10 on a good day now. Men didn't give a shit about me until after I put work into myself and became a better, healthier person. Also, financial support from men is no longer needed. I make my own money thanks. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:30 PM
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I didnt have a boyfriend until I was 22 years old. I was the weird kid, the artsy girl who liked yugioh more than makeup or dolls. The girl who just wanted to have fun with video games. I was bullied to the point of suicidal ideation. I still have mental problems that I'm working through with a therapist. I still sometimes have dark thoughts. It seems like men have more because women's pain is ignored by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 05:04 PM
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My life is great thanks. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:30 PM
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Unfortunately I dont have much of a choice. I didnt choose my lived experience, but my lived experience has told me that this is how it is. I'm sure not all women feel this way but I do because the amount of times I've been threatened or harassed in public is uncountable, where the amount of times a guy has been genuinely nice I can count on one hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:30 PM
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Because there isnt one. Ooooh, your feefees got a little hurt because a lady you wanted to fuck on the street ignored you? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:37 PM
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Good for you bud. Congrats. You're not a piece of human garbage. But I value my safety more than I care about mens feelings being hurt. Am I cynical and jaded? Yeah. But the old saying goes better safe than sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:35 PM
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I dont see the issue here. Mens feelings do not take precedence over my time or safety, it's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:38 AM
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Fine w me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:37 AM
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In our world, there isn't anything better. I wish there were, but there isn't. I'd rather not be approached at all, at least not until we have that better world. But until then, no thanks. The men who want to get their dicks wet are the only ones I've ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:03 PM
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The effective way to deal with it is to assume the worst out of every approach and conceal carry. Ive never met a man in public who didnt have ulterior motives when approaching me. Even if it took thirty minutes and i dared to inulge in a conversation, it always ends in "can I have your number". The only thing men care about is getting their dicks wet. I'm not a piece of meat and a gun is more reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:22 PM
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The fact that you keep talking like women aren't human and deserving of respect tells me a lot. Bye incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:10 PM
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I'd love to be able to go on a stroll late at night without feeling like I'm in danger yeah? But creeps dont care about what is socially acceptable. They never will. Even if the "nice" men respected it, there will always be a portion who won't. I dont have the answer, but I wish I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:09 PM
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If you won't leave us alone, dont be surprised when you get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:00 PM
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Ideally, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:59 PM
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"You girls" Calm down ER. On a serious note yeah I get it. It's hard for men. You might get your egos bruised. But at least you won't get raped and murdered for saying no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:58 PM
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Even the "nice" men come with threat. I dont want to feel threatened. I cant tell who is a creep and who isn't, and I'd rather not spend my day trying to sort them out. The most famous serial killers were classy, charismatic men who appeared "nice" right up until they started chopping limbs. So no, it's a lose lose situation for everyone involved. I dont have the answers aside from men need to be taught to leave women the fuck alone in public. Creeps aren't going to respect that, so were on our …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:56 PM
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Romantic comedies are moronic. TV doesn't equal reality, bud. Idgaf if it WAS Brad Pitt, literally dont approach me on the street. That's the last place I'd be looking for a date. I dont care how attractive or "chad" you are. Leave me tf alone. Literally that's all we want. Apparently that's far too much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:44 PM
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Nah, I just get it myself. But yeah, I'll give you that, must be annoying. At least you won't be threatened with rape if you refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:41 PM
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The reality is yes. Because women are trained to be on guard. Very rarely is a man approaching for anything other than fishing for numbers. That is going to be our first assumption because that is the reality we have to live in. Why does it have to be a "pretty young woman"? If you literally only need directions, ask someone else who won't feel threatened into speaking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:40 PM
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Or they should literally just not approach me in public. I am not obligated to care about your fragile ego that shatters from a rejection during a low effort approach on the street. Like what did you expect to happen? I swoon and fall in love from some random the street while I'm walking to work? Really? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:35 PM
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Creeps are gonna be creeps. That just means women literally cant feel safe in public. What a wonderful world. I have to tolerate being approached by "nice" men so the bad ones stay away? No thanks. The "nice" men already do jack shit when this stuff happens. I'd rather carry a gun than deal with some insufferable white night who only wants to get in my pants. Idk why it's so hard for men to literally just leave women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:33 PM
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Nah, you're just another unsympathetic asshole who doesn't understand anything about women and is probably upset about not getting his dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:27 PM
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Both. Dont approach me. But if you do, back the fuck off when I say so. But also, literally just dont. It's a low effort approach and the grocery store or the street is the absolute last place I'd want to look for a date. We want to be left alone. We are not putting ourselves in public to be harassed. We literally just want to get groceries and get out. The last thing I want when I'm picking out my zucchinis is to be hit on by some random creep in a store.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:25 PM
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Apparently he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:17 PM
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Ah, so if a man approaches me I am entrapped and have to respond kindly or else I face violence? So every man who approaches me I owe pleasantries, even if they are taking up MY time? Nah. I could just pretend I didnt hear him and go about my business. If it gets nasty well that's what conceal carry is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:17 PM
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You can sling all the insults you want but that doesn't change the reality that even an average, scrawny male could easily overpower me and the threat of violence men carry with them isn't worth me risking an interaction going south. The worst you get out of an interaction like this would be a bruised ego. The worst I'd get is being raped and or murdered. Seems pretty clear as to why most women feel the same and would respond by ignoring you and walking faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:56 PM
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You're projecting a lot of your own anger here. I just dont want to be bothered by creepy randos in public. Idgaf how attractive they are. Leave me tf alone and learn how to use google maps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:45 PM
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Sorry bud, we dont owe you our time or attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:05 PM
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In my experience, they are. Many of the other commenters here seem to have similar experience. Edit: the edit on your post is correct. Just dont, unless it is an environment in which that behavior is expected or welcomed. Also, if a woman says no, acts disinterested or says to back off, back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:00 PM
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Just dont approach us in public. No one wants to be hit on while grocery shopping or walking down the street. If you're in an environment where women are expecting to be hit on, like clubs, bars, etc, then yeah sure go for it. But not in random public spaces. Not while I'm trying to study or do work in a coffee shop. Not while I'm walking down the street. Not while I'm on the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:55 PM
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You're completely disregarding the statements I made. You dont have to believe it but that doesn't erase the truth and the things I and the vast majority of other women have experienced. Men see it, but they just dont care or see it as a problem, because the things men think are acceptable and the things women think are acceptable are different. And, it's not once. It's literally every time I've been in public alone. It's a whistle, a catcall, a whispered degrading statement made in passing. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:20 PM
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I've lived in big cities my whole life, if that gives context. You're part of the problem for asking if this is even a thing that exists. For disbelieving us and saying "well I've never seen this so idk" Just because you dont see something happen doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:05 PM
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If you need directions, use your damn google maps. In my experience (26F), the ONLY reason a man has approached me is to proposition me or make weird or uncomfortable comments under the guise of needing "help". I have been followed. I have been chased. I have been threatened. I have been harassed by all types of men. Old, young, attractive, ugly. Doesn't matter. You all do it and have been doing it since I was 13 fucking years old. It doesn't matter if I'm wearing baggy sweatpants or leggings. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:44 PM
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He doesn't want to put in the effort himself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:04 PM
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He probably likes her and is jealous so is lashing out to "knock her down a peg." A lot of men do this when they feel inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:55 AM
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It's because women don't sexualize men the same way. Men see our bodies as inherently sexual objects, whereas women want to know the person before deciding if the body is of interest. Therefore, women don't really have a sexualized lens through which we see men. A lot of people counter the sexualization of women in games with the ultra-buff male protagonist, for example. This is an unequal comparison, as the female character, often a damsel in distress for the MC to save, is not a female fantasy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:58 PM
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