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I have said this over and over again in this sub but the women hate the idea. Women divorce more not because men are or aren't xy or z. Women do it because as a group they are less happy by every single metric. Yet when they are in relationships, they will blame the other person for any and all unhappiness, and find the most ludicrous reasons to excuse that unhappiness, like having to do the dishes more often than they would if they were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:31 PM
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No. Women know how few men they find attractive. That blackpills them. Men start thinking women are like them, care about looks but not to an extreme degree. They are proven wrong very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:43 PM
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Women are black pilled before men. If men are the ones who only cared about looks, they would be blackpilled first. Also why would they be surprised? Men have a much lower standard for looks. 80% of women are acceptable to men. 20% of men are acceptable to women. So who cares more about looks? Women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:20 PM
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A “cross eyed narwhal” gets Chad all the time, male thirst and the reality that life is not a simple game of putting everything into boxes dictates as much. She gets used by chad which women claim they don't like. Women should all go for guys they want and take the risk since they are harder on themselves about their own league than you can imagine. If they were it would reflect in their actions. They don't act like they don't think they are hot, therefore them saying they think that way is nons…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:05 PM
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Us as in you need someone there to admire you so you feel sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:55 PM
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So turned inward. Your attraction is to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:26 PM
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Women are blackpilled because they are by nature blackpilled. They don't come to the realization, they only care about looks and they project that on men, which is why they mock men who don't just get it. Men don't black pill women their own looks based attraction does. This is turn blackpills men. I don't necessarily agree with black pill but if you're going to claim it's guys fault I think you need to put the blame where it belongs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:07 PM
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That doesn’t mean women can’t tell that a hot guy is hot. Oh they seem to be able to tell if guys are hot, but not themselves. Half of why some reject the scale is there are personal tastes for what is hot, but that doesn’t mean people are blind. Scales are not 100% accurate and will have some variation. And we are also discussing women’s OWN self image here not what they think about men rating. The 1-10 scale is just a meme from recent years and yet somehow through all of history people have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:58 PM
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It's not that they don't like to they flat out say they can't, and that it doesn't make sense to them. If you were aware you'd be able to easily use the number system it's not weaponized autism it's just a simple scale, there's no reason to be so afraid of it, it's just numbers. Let's be real, if they could use the scale they would. There's no valid reason to not. Having a good grasp on what you look like necessitates making dating choices based on that knowledge. Actions, not words
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:32 PM
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So how can you argue they are aware of their appearance, if they can't even fathom putting themselves on a scale of 1 to 10? And women always say that their appearance is not taken into account when they pursue men. They pursue who they are attracted (chad) to regardless. So they can't put themselves on a scale of 1 to 10 and refuse to take their own appearance into account in dating so in what way do they show they are aware of their looks? Sure they can claim they are but that's just lip servi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:26 PM
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Why is it that you think men can and should learn to adapt to the way women desire to be comforted and why is it women can't and should not be expected to adapt to the man's natural desires? That seems to be the bottom of this. Women? Great, no need to change, perhaps even incapable of appreciating men, and that's just a okay men need to adjust to that. Men? Poopy bad need to change are perfectly capable of changing and women do not need to adjust at all to him. Do you see why I can't understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:22 PM
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This is a simple question. If a man asked that a woman do everything in his specific way, and tells her the way she does everything is wrong and that she needs to conform to his ideals and none of her ideals are of any importance would you not call that abusive simple yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:23 PM
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"Bleeding", not "bleeding to death". When you say bleeding in the streets people aren't going to assume papercut. I imagine that's how women feel when we (men) problem solve instead of "listen" and give empathy. "Why the fuck are you giving me cough syrup when I'm bleeding?" Except men's form of problem solving works for 50% of the population, men. Cough syrup would work for 0% of the population. It's a bad analogy. A better one would be he offers a bandage but not the one she prefers so she get…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:22 PM
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Women are the ones who always claim there is no number scale for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:01 AM
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In what way am I doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:31 AM
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Jesus christ. Your not addressing how she's not abusive. You didn't even say she wasn't. You're just saying that's my stance. Well in what way is that stance incorrect? The reason I keep repeating it is your not actually addressing any of my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:59 AM
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Yes but the issue is women are less happy in general. Report less happiness being single or in marriage. So it should be no surprise they are more unhappy than men, since they are more unhappy in every aspect regardless. The mistake you're making is that unhappiness always has an outward cause. A person being unhappy in a relationship can just as easily reflect negatively on them as in their partner, yet you and women don't even consider that possibility. So she's unhappy and instead of being in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:54 AM
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You won't respond honestly because you know you have no argument to defeat mine. These women are abusive. If only her opinions and standards matter in a relationship, that is abuse, doesn't matter which sex is the one being unreasonable. All these accusations of the man not being able to compromise and not one mention of what she is compromising on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:49 AM
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Again, please respond honestly. A man says he will divorce a woman if she ever leaves a sock on the floor. Is that reasonable? A man says she must conform to every one of his standards and her standards or opinions don't matter, is that abuse? The one partner was clueless because the other was never honest. If you're thinking about leaving the marriage, the first time you get that inkling, you should be talking to your partner, not springing it on him after secretly contemplating it for months o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:47 AM
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"Perfect" wasn't referenced by me or any of the sources that I provided. Perfection isn't the topic of this conversation by any means. How else is one to interpret the idea that he was divorced because he left a drinking glass next to the sink. ALSO I've asked this question 4 times now, WHAT WAS SHE COMPROMISING ON? Answer. Tell me what it is she is compromising. There's not a word on it here, you don't think it's odd? Do you just assume she was compromising? Typically people wouldn't and don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:43 AM
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From your perspective, it's not that he isn't doing the dishes they're simply not done to her standards. That falls under the umbrellas of both lying and exaggerating. The quote you provided was that the woman got so sick of having to explain how to do the dishes she would just do them herself. These are her words. I'm not saying anything she isn't saying. You're also claiming that women aren't communicating with their male partners, and if they are it's to demand exactly what they want via abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:33 AM
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You're literally ignoring all my points that don't conform to that opinion. Typically the problem in heterosexual relationships is that men don't make any compromises, because as you've said repeatedly, women are always lying or overexaggerating. Or what women are asking for in relationships is apprently deemed abuse from your perspective. What compromises did she make? Apparently she divorced him for dishes. How is that a compromise. Please explain. "She wanted to be my partner, and she wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:30 AM
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No it wasn't i made several points beyond that you are completely ignoring. Here's the bottom of this discussion. She's desperate for understanding supposedly right? Where is her understanding for him? He can't even do the damn dishes the way he wants to. The way he's been doing dishes his whole life, is suddenly not good enough, and why? Because it's not exactly the way she wants. Let's reverse this. The man is continually getting mad at his gf who is trying to please him but she's not doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:10 AM
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Women are more likely to consider leaving a relationship when men don't participate enough No. They are more likely to leave and CLAIM it was due to x y or z. How many of those women already had an eye on another man? We don't know, I'd wager several to most. You see what I'm saying? The reason I think this is, why is it suddenly a problem after the years of being with him? He didn't do chores when you met him (supposedly) and you stayed with him, agreed to marry him, and then years down the roa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:09 AM
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You're not explaining why you ignored my points
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:59 AM
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I also find it very interesting that you are doing exactly what you're accusing men of doing, ignoring every point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:19 AM
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This is an opinion piece written by a woman not some piece of hard data or evidence of anything except one woman's opinion. Women have an in group bias 4x stronger than men. Of course they aren't going to blame the woman for anything. I made several points in my last post all of which you ignored. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:14 AM
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These complaints are hardly the norm, and would seem to be completely exaggerated or fabricated. Men have a different standard of cleaning, but they do clean. It is never easier to do something than there is to explain it. If someone says that they are lying. Why would you have to explain how to do the dishes unless you have a very anal and specific way of doing dishes which is very much a problem with you, not with the man. Let the man do the dishes the way he wants and quit micromanaging Here'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:04 PM
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Imagine someone is bleeding on the road. Hysterical. You run up to help and give them cough medicine. Why on earth? "But I'm helping!" That's not the kind of help they need, so is it helpful? How do they know what kind of help they need? What are they comparing your help to? Why don't they ask for what they specifically need? Imagine standing your ground defending that you're better at giving drugs so that's all you're going to do and they don't appreciate how helpful you are, while they keep bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:50 PM
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Because women here literally say that. That they want a man who provides them the same support as their friends. Also it's the only thing that makes sense. What are their comparing men to and finding them lacking if not their friendships with women? Makes zero sense to suggest they are comparing men to some imaginary ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:25 PM
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I mean it's highly contextual as to what the issue is. I can't just say men do x because if y is occurring they might do z
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:31 PM
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No I said there is such a thing as objectivity. That doesn't mean people are not subjective just that if you could step out of your own biases your ratings for people would change. There's a large gap between saying "there's such a thing as being objective" and "everyone is objective, or even can be"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:29 PM
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No not a homosexual relationship. I'm saying they expect the same level of EMOTIONAL intimacy that they have with their friends but with a man. But they are friends with women. They want men to replicate the emotional aspect of their friendships with women. They are default saying men are bad because men don't have the same form of emotional intimacy as women do. Why can it not be that the sexes are different? What are men doing in heterosexual relationships from your perspective that meets wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:12 PM
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Men are saying "We've always brought home the paycheck, we don't do any of that other shit because we're men". Yeah no, that's not at all the case. Women are saying what they want, As influenced by the current culture. Men are saying that they never had to do any of those things before, No. nor were they required to do it socially or culturally in order to get women and they're not going to change or consider any other type of heterosexual relationship dynamic No. This is projection. That's how …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:56 PM
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I never claimed otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:46 PM
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You're kind of contradicting yourself here. Heterosexual women are saying what they want from men in order to enter and maintain relationships with them. If men aren't capable of doing what women find valuable or worth the pursuit of a relationship, then women are going to continue to remain unattached to men. This contradicts with People are married to their cultural expectations. You don't know what men and women are "wired" to do relationally. You know what you've been programed to believe vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:59 PM
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If you believe that women don't just go for looks, yes it often can. If you're one of them black pills then no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:55 PM
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Usually there is a positive correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:41 PM
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How you are treated isn't necessarily a true reflection of value
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:30 PM
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If you want to pretend men are broken women you're on the right track. Men don't relationship the same way women do. Default assuming the amount of support etc you get from a woman friend would be exactly replicated by a male female friendship is what is causing this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:03 PM
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You're really not understanding what I'm saying here. If all men decided to group together and treat all women like 1s it doesn't actually change their rating from 5 or 10 to 1. All that has changed is the treatment they are receiving. Objectively they have not changed. If nothing has changed how could they all be 1s now? The answer is, they are not. It's that simple. Men are not as undesirable as women are treating them, women are simply suffering from mass delusion.. Paradox of choice, halo ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:48 PM
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And I've already pointed out that's wrong. Objectivity exists. I didn't delete any comment must have been the mods because you reported meto them over some nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:32 PM
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I don't see how we are agreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:29 PM
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Yes just like your source says nothing about hypergamy. And yes he got a settlement but he was still fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:27 PM
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I'm shocked that you haven't heard of this. I suspect you know exactly what I'm talking about and are simply source trolling https://dailyangle.com/articles/math-professor-fired-after-refusing-woke-reeducation-so-judge-strips-crucial-protection-from-his-persecutors
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:19 PM
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Jesus fucking christ you're being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:16 PM
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No it is not professors are being fired for saying men can't give birth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:14 PM
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"Should"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:12 PM
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And yet it says nothing about hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:06 PM
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What do you mean by academic freedom? You're yet to provide any arguments other than "I said so" You asked for a source not an argument. The burden of proof lies with the one that says a phenomenon exists But not everything can be explicitly proven, like you being unable to produce a source saying people won't get cancelled for suggesting hypergamy is real. Your failing by your own criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:59 PM
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You don't have any source that says you can study hypergamy without being canceled. In order to reach that conclusion you used critical thinking. We should be debating the merit of that thought process not just repeatedly asking for sources
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:46 PM
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Ah so I'm gonna need to fill in the blanks. Weird. Just like with hypergamy!?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:42 PM
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I'm not seeing anything related to scientists having free range to study hypergamy without being canceled
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:35 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:26 PM
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Because modern scientists etc would be cancelled for even suggesting hypergamy was real let alone studying it. This is not evidence that hypergamy isn't real. You need to use critical thinking which isn't just demanding a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:06 PM
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There's plenty of proof just none that explicitly is going to hold your hand and spell it out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:01 PM
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How could you prove hypergamy definitively? Don't ask for sources when you know you'll just reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:25 AM
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It's a group delusion. That's the only way it can BE maintained.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:18 AM
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It doesn't matter if they agree though. They are delusional whether they agree or not. That's how delusion works. Most delusional people don't know or won't agree they are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:59 AM
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So no, it does not make them 10s Just like women who are 5s refusing 5s doesn't make them better than 5s. So not getting a 5 as a 5 man doesn't prove you aren't a 5. It proves that women are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:17 AM
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I've asked you several questions when you answer mine I'll answer yours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:33 PM
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So the less successful women are the ones who use dating apps yet find 80% of men below average? I am in a long term relationship not that it makes any difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:32 PM
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Yes but when you date you're going to want someone attractive, which means mate choice imitation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:30 PM
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Jesus christ can you not infer anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:29 PM
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How are we on to proving what they are laughing about when you said it doesn't even occur?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:26 PM
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I have to prove to you the very concept of objectivity? You literally don’t know bc you are not part of the conversation nor can you read minds. You are assuming that these women are even still thinking about what just happened. And you're just assuming I'm wrong. Everything you’re saying is stuff you’ve made up in your head. You have no objective scale. You have no proof How exactly would you like me to prove this? There is a literal post on this very sub if you take a second and breathe you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:25 PM
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Why do you believe these things? Because they are true https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.businessinsider.com/women-are-more-attracted-to-men-when-other-women-like-them-2018-1%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjf55q2_cb3AhVeHjQIHSA1AjUQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3moBCG7w0tbA5kmss0-g7K Women more attracted to men other women rate highly. So men other women want because they are highly desirable https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:22 PM
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How would you know what they are laughing at but simultaneously don't believe it even happens? Did you not see where I said usually?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:14 PM
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Also what does “on his level” mean? Similar levels of income and or attractiveness. When men had their way you had assortive mating. You married young and for good so you ended up with your match by default. That is how men liked it. You can’t decide who is on someone’s level??? This isn't a decisionI'm making When two people date they’re dating each other bc they like each other. Sorry if you don’t think two people fit together but WHY DO YOU CARE. Again, I'm not talking about on an individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:13 PM
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Men want their equals women want their betters. The money thing was an example of them wanting better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:05 PM
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Men don't usually like to share their embarrassments. And yes it's just a coincidence women are laughing at something entirely unrelated directly after the guy walks away
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:04 PM
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So if all men say they are 10s that makes it reality yes or no. There is no objectivity only projection of what youfeel?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:58 PM
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Again, when a guy approaches a woman on his level and why would a guy tell you this happened to him? And again, it's not always right in his face it's often when he walks away
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:58 PM
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Analyze womens behavior for what??? Also do I not count as a woman??? I talk to my friends and they love their boyfriends and are super happy. I’m super happy. What is there to analyze??? You're simultaneously admitting you don't analyze and claiming you do. You genuinely believe this is the case for every man and woman? Outliers exist obviously, but not in great enough numbers to matter. So all the relationships out there are filled with women who suck and men who are better than them. Not what…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:57 PM
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You've never been an average guy asking women out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:52 PM
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Yes. The majority of women now will laugh in the face of a man they don't think it's on their level, but the issue is they have an inflated opinion of what their level is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:43 PM
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Most people marry/date the person they love. That's not in conflict with my analysis it's simply a more pleasant sounding way to phrase it. That’s what my friends are doing. That’s what I’m doing. You don't have any reason to actually analyze women's behavior. No one is with “Chad”. Like who tf is Chad? Chad is just a sexually desirable man Ok be in the relationship you want! Men can't do this because women want their betters. Men literally cannot be with a woman who does not consider him better…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:42 PM
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They aren't boyfriends, just the guy fucking his way through her friend group. One guy at my high school slept with almost half the gurls there, ive seen it first hand. All the girls knew and all took their opportunity when they had it. Many cheated on their boyfriends for him, knowing he just fucked her friend the week before. If you opened your eyes you would see. You've just never had any reason to actually analyze women's behavior. And most women report having casual sex at least once. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:40 PM
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It has happened in front of me, never directly to me. But yes the way it works is some average gut asks her out and she laughs at him with her friends either directly in his face or after he walks away
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:38 PM
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It isn't about being in relationships it's about being in relationships you want. Around 35 women start to understand chad will never commit so they get some poor sap to marry them, take care of chads kids and promptly dead bedroom and divorce them because they can't be satisfied by mere mortals on their level anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:36 PM
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Most women have casual sex at least once. When they do its with that same guy all their friends did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:34 PM
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Women file the papers 80% of the time. Why would you think they don’t do it in response to what the husband does or is doing? Don’t you think an abuser would stay in the marriage to have access to a victim? We can't assume anything other than what we know. We know they file 80% of the time. We can't assume this is because they are hopeless victims. Women don’t need to be shamed into sleeping with men they don’t want. Yet another bad faith argument. It's not shaming to dissuade women from their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:31 PM
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The women don't care when they make a man who would be a good match for them ugly by laughing in his face like Jabba the Hutt. I don't want them to feel ugly I want them to live in reality. All women in modern times have inflated egos
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:30 PM
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Chad is much more than an attractive man. He apparently bangs and dumps all women and commits to none, and I’ve also heard he commands a harem and groups of women “pass him around”. Yes all that happens. 20% of men get 80% of the casual sex. Also, somehow he has some magic power that allows him to have no personality or even be abusive and mean but still have sex with any and all women. The halo effect is a well known and studied paradigm. Also somehow Chad has no standards himself, because all …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:29 PM
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If every woman who is not a 10 thinks they are a 10 who are you to date? Not women, they all think they deserve chad. I'm sure you can see the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:27 PM
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It's not an issue on an individual level it becomes one when it's at societal levels
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:26 PM
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Women initiate 80% of divorces. You cannot blame anyone but them lmfao The divorce rate is higher than 50 years ago. The only way to change it is to restrict women from being able to make decisions. Or for women to wise up or just social pressure there's many ways besides your hysterical assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:26 PM
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Women have a mass psychosis in regards to how attractive they are thanks to easy access to being used sexually by chad. This inflates their egos to unreasonable levels. And I never said anyone should stop chad from hooking up with the narwhal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:23 PM
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Not at all, that is your bad faith interpretation. Women usually figure out they aren't all that around 35. Then they settle. By then they have had sex with men far out of their league and they can't be satisfied by the man they settle with, hence the insane divorce rate. Ifwomen could figure it out before 35, preferably around 20, everyone, including themselves would be happier. Now show me where in this explanation I imply women shouldn't be allowed to make decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:22 PM
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This is supposing that there is a way dating is "supposed" to be, the other user suggested there was a supposed to, I'm just suggesting that IF there is a supposed to, it shouldn't be mass psychosis from women. And what are you talking about two people and consensual choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:20 PM
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I didn't say it upset me. And on an individual level it isn't an issue. When the vast majority of women that are ugly think they are hot it starts to cause issues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:18 PM
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Chad is just a different way of saying very desired physically attractive man, are you sincerely suggesting that doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:14 PM
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That's a strawman. Nobody said anything about sleeping with everyone who wanted to bang them. My point is about understanding how attractive they are as objectively as possible. They are not even trying to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:13 PM
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Yeah women are living in a fantasy land. Easy access to being used by chad has warped their perception
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:12 PM
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Men don't currently agree with women, doesn't seem to matter to them, so what is the point of this question
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:08 PM
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So if all men decided they were 10s that would be the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:52 PM
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Women being delusional about reality doesn't actually alter reality. That's nonsense. If all men insisted they were 10s tomorrow would that make it true? Of course not and it's the same for what women are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:38 PM
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Yes but you're not actually the rating you believe you are. Women have a collective delusion, a 5 man not being able to get a 5 woman isn't evidence he isn't a 5, it's just evidence of the mass psychosis women inflict on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:30 PM
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I was simply correcting your false assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:16 PM
2

Good to have hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:36 PM
1

People sometimes die as a result of others trying to make money but it's not direct
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:30 PM
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Not really sure what you mean here other than agreeing with the warped perception of a barnacled beast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:25 PM
1

Sockets and sandals are a faux pa
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:24 PM
2

Well in nature there is murder and rape and all sorts of other heinous shit and we tell people not to do that, or we put them in jail. Do you not believe this has somewhat altered our nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:24 PM
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Monetary value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:22 PM
1

I know they are called thongs and it can get confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:17 PM
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It can be both entitlement and biology. That which is natural is not necessarily good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:16 PM
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Its funny because they will claim they think they are ugly but behave as though they are peak Tyra banks. Gives them both the sympathy they desire and plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:16 PM
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Well it certainly shouldn't go "I'm a dumpster troll who chad fucked once you aren't fit to kiss the warts on the pontoons I call my goblin feet"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:13 PM
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They are for your feet not your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:12 PM
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I'm just saying what I see on the forums i read.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:11 PM
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You're missing my point. My point is the main complaint is visual and only when that's countered do women seem to bring up invisible issues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:08 PM
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The argument doesn't seem to be reasonable or consistent. It ruins your body supposedly but then when I point out that it makes some women look better, sudden it's not about your body being ruined but some invisible discomfort
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:24 PM
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Reasonable in terms of attractiveness to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:23 PM
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Permanent damage? Also who is forced to be pregnant other than those who are raped which is a tiny fraction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:21 PM
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I'm just saying women act like being pregnant is always a detriment to their bodies when I've seen bodies improve
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:43 AM
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How? The incidence of mortality shouldn't change relative to the incidence of birth. Births will be higher but it should still be the same-ish percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:35 AM
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There's a huge difference in saying "I should be as picky as possible because I'm risking death!!!" And "Well I won't ever be the same." Anything you do changes you, the argument women usually make here is the former not the latter I've seen women who look better after pregnancy. Their hips went from narrowish to reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:29 AM
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Women always wanna excuse their entitled behavior with some nonsense about death being a possibility in childbirth Looked it up, less than 30 in 100k. Less than a 1% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:08 AM
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Ah yes, the old women are children defense. The only way a man can cum in you is if you let him. Kinda silly to let a man's unfettered penis in you and blame him for the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:03 AM
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Or, verbatim: the Nice GuyTM was just never nice to begin with unless he thought he would get what he wanted; it's just a front. This straight up says he was never nice to begin with if he reacts negatively to rejection. Point out the part where I'm saying that someone who is nice can never be rude or upset, please. It is inherent to the argument above. If you believe someone was never nice to begin with if they react negatively to rejection you are saying they cannot have one single moment of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:23 AM
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What did I say that was so preposterous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:10 AM
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You don't understand why women value attractiveness over loyalty, I don't understand why they claim to want loyalty but they don't select for it. I just want women to openly admit that attractiveness is valued more than loyalty. I don't understand why you even think we have to choose between the two. "What" just about sums it up. I didn't say you had to, this entire conversation stemmed from you asking me why a woman would ever choose a nice guy over an attractive one, I gave you a possible reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:54 AM
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For example I said What And you said. My feelings exactly. I said It was a simple yes or no question. Is that man nice or is he not? You completely ignored that. You're I'm asking you questions and giving hypotheticals, I'm not putting words in your mouth. Please give me an example of me putting words in your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:24 AM
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You're literally not responding to anything I'm saying. Every time I point something out and ask you your thoughts you just ask me something else. I answer and ask again, and you just ask something else. I'd love to continue talking if you can agree to actually address what's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:02 AM
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I don't blame him for being rude to someone being rude to him, but no, it's not very nice of him; he's stooping to her level. Yes, nice people will inevitably do some not nice things, but one not nice thing doesn't mean you're not a nice person To exaggerate my example like you are, if it turns out he's strangling puppies in his free time he could be be as saintly as he ever would like every other moment, he still wouldn't be considered a nice guy. It was a simple yes or no question. Is that man…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:59 PM
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Not ever rejection is that simple. Your telling me there's a guy, he's true to his friends a hard worker donates to children's hospitals takes care of his ailing father zero criminal record volunteers his time at homeless shelters. He does all this but once when a chick laughed in his face after politely asking her out he called her a bitch. This man isn't nice? Every single nice thing he does at every other moment doesn't matter? The only measure of what's nice is never once being rude to a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:40 PM
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The issue here being you think someone who is nice can never be rude or upset which is just ridiculous. The attractive guy is more likely to cheat just based on opportunities alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:05 PM
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The analogy here is in the way the info is being presented not the relationship between cigarettes and cancer being compared to sex and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:03 PM
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It's not contradictory at all. It's the equivalent of saying not smoking cigarettes prevents cancer. That is true but it doesn't mean you will not get cancer no mature what if you don't smoke cigarettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:17 PM
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No. That post said more sex can prevent cheating not lack of sex is the reason for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:30 PM
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I don't think you understand. They didn't say it's THE number one reason. They didn't say guaranteed. They simply said it can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:12 PM
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No it isn't trying to shift blame its just stating a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:47 PM
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They don't though. They say men will cheat if they don't get enough sex not that it is morally right or should be viewed as okay there's a huge difference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:44 PM
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Wanting any form of physical intimacy is selfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:12 PM
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I don't see how the two conflict. How specifically is whatever vague undefined trauma keeping her from sucking dick? How would it be a detriment to her mental health?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:18 PM
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Obviously but we also must acknowledge the reality that what people say isn't always in line with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:21 PM
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How is finding her special equivalent to being low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:03 PM
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How is that relevant to the topic at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:42 PM
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Ah so no evidence. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:57 PM
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It's only insecurity if it's not true. Being scared fire will burn you isn't insecurity because fire will in fact burn you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:50 PM
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Please provide an example of a man saying it's just fine for men to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:39 PM
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You have to keep your points straight. You asked me if I thought trauma was healed in a day. Then I said it hasn't been a day, it's been longer. Then you gloss over your weird trauma heals in a day strawman and go back to pointing out she supposedly has trauma. Yes, she should be seeking help. Sex is an important part of a relationship and her vague allusion to some kind of trauma doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:22 PM
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I don't see how that logic follows at all. And I don't see where I suggested everyone cheats either. Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:19 PM
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Strawman the men on this sub don't say it's okay for men to cheat. There's a difference between giving a reason and saying it's okay women in this sub seem to have trouble grasping that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:18 PM
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It hasn't been one day since she's supposedly had that supposed trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:14 PM
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Yes your study where they don't blame themselves and men do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:12 PM
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If she's that traumatized she should be seeking help but wallowing in self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:59 PM
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I think there's an important distinction between lots of sex making a man less apt to cheat and cheating happens due to lack of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:57 PM
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Tldr: men bad wemmin gewd
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:56 PM
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Surveys depend on honesty from both the person and the person to themselves. Women are more likely to blame others than men. A man will just honestly say they cheated because they could. Women are hyperfocused on self image so they aren't gonna be honest even to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:54 PM
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Yes idiots exist and what do you mean sympathize?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:02 PM
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No I wouldn't because I'm not an infant and I know correlation doesn't equal causation. There's no evidence these subs caused any of these crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:47 PM
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If fhe red pill and mgtow subs weren't supporting and openly advocating for male murderers, they wouldn't have been banned. Then they shouldn't have been banned because that shit didn't happen there with any more frequency than any other sub and you were banned if you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:58 AM
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I never implied otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:41 AM
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Sexually successful men treat women like cum rags. I've been that guy. I've lived with a guy who would bring home a different girl every time he went to the bar and never see them again. He and other sexually successful men see women's true behavior, willingness to cheat and be sluts and they are extremely disgusted by it. It was not an incel that wrote "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" it's the less sexually successful men, perhaps not full incels but men who aren't able to point at a gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:46 PM
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Dirt but I guess to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:38 PM
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Yeah my dick can't taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:37 PM
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Conversation, body language, .. very different depending on the man's appreance and social aptitude. Or based on how women treat them. All I'm saying is that a player and a virgin default are the same. If women treated all men the same, there'd be no difference. My only qualm is that you keep seeming to imply it's something innate inside the man where he's just organically more x when in reality its all based on women's behavior. Women create incels and their hatred through their actions then cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:38 PM
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It's not that he's more relaxed around women though. His behavior is exactly the same and women just give him what he wants because they want it. Virgin says "let's have sex" you say no so he presses. Player says "let's have sex" and you say yes so no need to press. What is different isn't the player being more relaxed it's that it never gets to the point where he would have to pressure. Women's behavior is the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:46 PM
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Virgins have to push the boundaries (not referring to rape just generally have to be the sexual aggressors). Players don't have to push because women simply give them what they want You're not morally superior because you get given everything you want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:15 PM
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That's just silly, there's far more and superior ways to control someone outside of putting your penis in them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:50 PM
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Despite having zero evidence that heard was ever abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:20 PM
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Haven't seen that but being mad isn't evidence of anything. She lied about the make up she supposedly used to cover up her injuries. We actually have physical evidence for injuries caused by heard. Heard has zero actual evidence of any injuries caused by Depp. Him throwing a glass and her fucking with him till she hits record is just bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:10 PM
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Apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:06 PM
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I don't know what this is supposed to mean? That he was asking for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:06 PM
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Good thing we don't just have to take his word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:06 PM
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It is absolutely venting. He's using colorful language because he's an actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:30 PM
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If you have watched any of the trial it is quite clear Depp was the victim either wholly or mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:28 PM
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Ah yes, venting to a friend about the piece of shit who abused you makes you the bad guy. Classic women. Men need to shut up and take their abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:27 PM
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Are women just economic currency then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:26 PM
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Everything worth having takes work. If you think love will always be a walk in the park you're in for a bad time. Ask people with point successful marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:25 PM
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I'm confused as to the nature of the comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:24 PM
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They want honesty but people are often very bad at giving honest opinions in a digestible manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:23 PM
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Any woman who sides with amber heard is a psycho 100% guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:22 PM
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Property maintenence. Different stuff every day, fixing drywall or plumbing replacing bulbs and pressure washing for a medium sized strip mall that opens at 9am so I gotta get my shit done before 9 every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:49 AM
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Bro I wake up at 3am shit is the most steaming hot garbage ever to be left in the summer sun
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:36 AM
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I don't understand how women don't get the very simple concept that men cannot hook up with anyone they want like women can
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:30 AM
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Hey at least you can sleep till a decent hour and hit the gym when it's dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:29 AM
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What kind of job do you have where you can spend the hours of 7 to 11 at the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:25 AM
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They aren't more sexually repressed in marriage than they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:24 AM
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Brief stints of monogamy is exactly women's sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:23 AM
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What point are you trying to make her and do you really believe people are honest on these surveys let alone to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:52 PM
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More. Their standards for what is hot is much higher therefore they are more looks oriented than men. The misconception is that men are more looks oriented when the reality is women are, they just also are very picky in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:39 PM
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I never said my opinion was science. The experts don't disagree with anything I've said, you're behaving as if I'm telling you I know the real reason people are breaking up. I didn't say that. What I said was that people lie. Are you disputing that? Is this what you're referring to as me calling my opinion science? No scientist or psychologist or rational minded human would dispute that, so why do you keep behaving as though some expert debunked that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:26 PM
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I think many women believe this about themselves but larger data sets show women prefer men who are better looking and more successful than themselves. It seems a lot of women consider themselves to be like minded and have similar goals with men who are superior to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:15 PM
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Surveys aren't science. And your personal opinions don't have more weight or credibility than areas of studies that are decades long. Surveys. People lie on surveys people lie to themselves people will paint themselves as the victim because protagonist syndrome all of these things are actually proven by science not just shit people say. I'm sorry if that's upsetting to you. There's no objective way to figure out why people broke up. You can't just say the word science when you mean surveys those…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:13 PM
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The fact that they choose to stay in their relationship proves that being single doesn't ALWAYS look more appealing when you're in a relationship. No it means that they don't react to knee jerk feelings of fomo. The saying itself is meant to teach you to not react emotionally to that type of feeling. You're basically arguing that people don't have the ability to assess whether any situation is better than any other. I'm saying 99% of the time its not an objective assessment. Most of the time its…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:08 PM
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I never said I was immune to protagonist syndrome I'm fully aware I'm effected by it, are you? SURVEYS aren't facts. The only facts the survey provides is what people say. So the only way you could presume these to be facts is if you believe people never lie, on surveys or to themselves, and they can overcome their protagonist syndrome to even know the reality of why they wanted to break up and not just the excuse they made. We know humans aren't 100% honest or objective so to presume survey dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:03 PM
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I never said I wasn't able to do that. I'm trying to speak generally not make things personal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:59 PM
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I never said it was hard to understand that women want to feel special. I said that maybe the reason they can't get that is they are statistically speaking not special. Why is that hard for you to understand? If you must do it in order to date women they expect it and demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:55 PM
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People have protagonist syndrome. Have you ever heard the term "there's three versions of every story, hers, his, and the truth"? Expecting people to be truthful on surveys is already unrealistic. Expecting people to be honest with themselves is completely unreasonable. As I said, compatibility is just another term for attraction. You feel attracted to people's life styles job etc. This is especially true because women prefer men more attractive and successful than them. So it's not that they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:52 PM
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What are you talking about? If empathy isn't owed why do women expect it? Nobody said anything about bending over backwards to validate people's opinions. Do you actually have an argument here? Or is your whole purpose to tell everyone they lack empathy unless they think exactly how you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:48 PM
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Or you're simply not being realistic or your feelings are irrational etc It's silly to suggest every feeling someone has is true and should be adhered to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:43 PM
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Just world fallacy. Everyone has fomo. Everyone let's perfect be the enemy of good to some extent. Humans simply aren't built in a way to truly appreciatewhat they have, especially women. Hence the existence of terms like fomo and "the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side" note how the saying doesn't allow for exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:42 PM
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Yes then you get a relationship, now you're a boyfriend or girlfriend. Suddenly the single life appears more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:37 PM
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Because grass always appears greener on the other side, have you not heard that before?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:25 PM
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Two people who are compatible on paper will not be together if they don't have attraction to each other It's unlikely a sober person will be attracted to a tweaker, and the same goes for your other examples. If two people have opposite genitals they should just pair bond and run off into the sunset with ZERO consideration to any other tangible measures that people use in real life to choose partners such as temperament, compatibility, and life goals. None of these are considered at all until att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:25 PM
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So anything that doesn't align exactly with your opinion is lacking basic empathy. But how does you telling everyone who disagrees they are broken people with zero empathy show that you have any empathy? Why can't you use your supposed empathy as a tool for understanding instead of an insult cudgel to insult everyone who has a thought you don't like? Empathy must be given to you but not by you, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:23 PM
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Ah so feelings over facts huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:16 PM
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No it's not the bare minimum. Compatibility is a feel good term to describe attraction. Women don't want like minded men with like minded goals they want men who are more successful attractive and motivated than they themselves. They are to the men exactly what they don't want in a man. A less motivated less attractive less successful partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:15 PM
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Women are more alike than men are by every metric we can calculate. Height weight hobbies iq, you name it women are more bunched in the center of the graph and men are farther apart with more on the extreme ends. So maybe this want to be seen as unique is not being satisfied not because men are limited in their perception and empathy but simply because women ARE much less unique than they believe themselves to be
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:12 PM
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I mean how do you even measure how much work is more than being alone? A feeling? Grass is always greener on The other side
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:08 PM
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Yes even when anonymous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:16 AM
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Well that seems very counterintuitive since women generally have a stigma in favor of lying down in terms of n count vs men who told the truth much more frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:07 PM
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Yes but again, it's a new development. Never before have women admitted to cheating more. So we can't assume they won't continue to admit to cheating more. Since it's a new phenomenon we have to assume that the apps and social media Era have made women either cheat more or admit to cheating more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:28 PM
5

How is knowing they are in a relationship vetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:57 PM
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Men will still hit on a taken woman, but it doesn't increase their interest as it does for women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:55 PM
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Sex is a form of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:42 PM
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Nah it's a reflection of his current financial situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:38 PM
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The type of man that would own those types of things is the man with money. That's the only significant difference between him and other men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:54 PM
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All women seem to insist that there is a difference but I agree that you are your body and mind together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:50 PM
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I mean, that seems like a cop out. He is not his money car house etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:49 PM
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That isn't relevant to the point. If women expect effort in relationships than men get to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:44 PM
1

So how is that any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:42 PM
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Do women not expect effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:15 PM
0

Who said anything about guaranteed results
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:59 PM
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That's what being a man is. Did you even read what i wrote. I said women pick winners. You're acting like any man a woman actually chooses overcame some herculean hurtle and bettered the worst aspects of himself. No. Women pick guys and by the nature of being chosen they have won. Overcoming your circumstances and becoming a winner. Sure. The reward of embracing this is choosing whatever woman you want. No. Not at all. Not by a long shot. The punishment for not doing it is a life of misery and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:21 AM
1

Why was it so difficult to just get you to say what you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:45 AM
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I don't see what that has to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:45 AM
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If men thought that they were being equally compensated then they'd continue putting in effort. The fact that men stop putting in effort (I don't agree with that, it's just the argument from women we hear endlessly) only proves the juice isn't worth the squeeze. So women can either keep bitching or git gud
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:37 AM
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He's not saying anything about himself why do you assume he's in this situation and it isn't just something he observed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:35 AM
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Or are you just saying they need to stop whining when the top tier guys won’t settle down with them? Sure and stop trying to use sex to get commitment from guys out of their league. Any you kind of realize your league by shooting your shot and seeing what sticks. Or you can look in the mirror and be honest with yourself. Guys realize their pecking order when women keep rejecting them. Kinda but also kinda not. These women don't know their own value. All it proves is the delusion of women. That’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:01 PM
1

I don't get the logic you're using. It's not up to men to reject women. It's up to women to be smart. It's nobodies job to treat women like children
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:23 PM
1

So the general happiness stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:59 PM
1

What stat? See this is what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:42 PM
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Honestly what is your problem? If you'd like some stats linked why not just ask? You don't even seem to understand what I'm saying to begin with yet you're behaving as if me trying to get you to be clear is somehow trying to make things up. Argue in good faith or why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:35 PM
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Why does it matter? Theoretical bad behavior doesn't justify real bad behavior. Saying others would do it to if they could is just deferring responsibility for your actions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:26 PM
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Which is why I said I referred to them not linked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:22 PM
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Cyclical logic. Women fuck men who are hot, these men are now winners. Correlation not causation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:20 PM
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The men women don't want would put in mountains of effort. The men in high demand rightly perceive that they don't need to put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:17 PM
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Chad isn't doing anything wrong. Why would men be mad at chad? Is it up to men to make women realize their league? They are adults aren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:11 PM
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Or just a reaction to modern women's behavior but no could never be that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:02 PM
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Yes as I said I referred to them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:12 PM
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Are you under the impression that the happiness statistics i have been referring to are marriage related? I think that might be the miscommunication here. I'm talking about general happiness stats not marital
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:58 PM
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What is this nonsense? I asked for proof that all the men in this sub say the happiness rates are lies. If you think one of those links proves that statement, please quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:36 PM
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No they do not lmfao provide proof please
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:02 PM
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Look at the happiness rates I mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:39 PM
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Of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:11 PM
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Complaining about things doesn't mean they aren't more happy with less though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:59 PM
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All good points
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:45 PM
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Who said they weren't? The point is not that men are completely zen and have overcome their emotions, just that it seems to be less of an issue. A man can satisfy his urge for sex and relationships with a less than ideal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:43 PM
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That’s because you are looking at it as though women want what men want. Women don’t look at “I want to fuck you but not like you” as a prize I already acknowledged that this wasn't the ideal. I think it should be “women are wonderful when” ….. they fuck me, don’t fuck the wrong guy, don’t fuck too many guys, etc. There are plenty of ways women can fall or be pushed off the pedestal and be hated. Wow effect is more about how you're treated by strangers. The theories behind women are wonderful in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:39 PM
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Unless you believe that lust and desire (and anger, rage) aren’t feelings or motivators But not all men or even a majority of men make any of the excuses you listed. Whereas the majority of women claim happiness is an externalities. And this conversation is specifically about happiness not anger. That's a different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:30 PM
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You're really trying to pervert this conversation into something it isn't. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:23 PM
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In relation to men, they get much not of what they want. They get soft rejections such as only the offer of physical relationships with who they want whereas men get neither physical or emotional relationships from their ideal women. Women are wonderful effect is well documented, so people are more likely to be generous and helpful to women, and punish them less for any transgressions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:21 PM
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Jesus christ. Yes men want sex. My point is they are less picky about who they want sex with. They could claim anything less than the best or maximum feel good chemicals is not enough, as do women. They do not. They may due. They settle. They recognize that chasing maximum happiness is not a way to live their life. Women do not. I explained this already
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:18 PM
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It seems like women do more so. Do you disagree women place more importance in their feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:11 PM
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Yes the post does not claim varying levels of happiness are not possible so I'm not sure how that's relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:08 PM
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Yes and?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:05 PM
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Are you trying to deny the biological reality that there is a limit to the amount of feel good chemicals your brain can produce?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:01 PM
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Your statement is not relevant. They are aware they have the right to not marry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:56 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding the question. I'm not asking if the mechanism is different rather if men recognize the mechanism for what it is more than women. Women seem to place much more importance on their chemicals than do men. I'm asking if that's something not only I observed and if it is true that women place more importance on their feelings why is that true and could that paradoxically be responsible for the happiness gap in men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:54 PM
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Is there a significant difference in the way men and women feel happiness? Your maximum happiness is biological in nature due to chemical secretions in your body. Winning the lotto can only produce x amount of happiness, x being whatever level of happiness your chemicals can induce. This means some people are just less happy. Person A could hit a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 on happiness, while the same event could only produce a 7 out of 10 with person B whose brain secretes less maximum chemicals …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:45 PM
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This isn't a post about individuals and this whole giving permission to him to not get married is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:16 PM
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Are 80% of women losers too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:45 PM
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Any given woman will recieve 10x the amount of attention of her male counterpart. I like a pinwheel hat, gives you something to do. Like a fidget spinner but on your head
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:11 PM
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And they recieve plenty of attention because if it!. But let's get to the real point, what kind of funny hat are we talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:20 PM
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I mean, women can't really oppress men, so it's kind of a default thing. It's kind of like saying the strong always oppressed the weak. That is true but it doesn't imply the weak are more moral, only less able.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:21 AM
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Yeah I'm not saying he's right necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 02:56 AM
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I think he's trying to illustrate that women have been taught or have evolved to adapt to any environment or they would be killed. This would make them less likely to rock the boat so to speak
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 02:38 AM
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Yeah the vagina or even implied vagina should work for that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:23 PM
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I'm willing to add a silly hat step
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:15 PM
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Should I edit in a silly hat step?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:35 PM
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Yes I agree, the point though is that they can read it, but they aren't going to assume they are right There's a certain amount of narcissism inherent in the assumption that you can read every tone flawlessly and tell someone's true motivations through tone alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:29 PM
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Step one: Exist Step two: Go in public or online There is no step 3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:57 PM
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It's not about the ability or lacking. It's about application. Men don't bother to try to hear tone unless it's obvious because it's not how they communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:48 PM
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What I'm suggesting is that men can easily tell tone. Women as well. The difference is men will default to meaning when tone is ambiguous. If they can't hear or aren't sure about the tone, they revert to the meaning of the words. I'm saying women don't EVER just go back to the words. If they aren't sure what tone was given, they assume the worst. This can be beneficial or detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:46 PM
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We are pretty far down the chain here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:44 PM
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How is it a dig? Unless I say women are inherently correct in their every tonal interpretation it's not worth responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:44 PM
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Why you downvote
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:43 PM
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That seems likely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 07:42 PM
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Did you see the least charitable interpretation bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:44 PM
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Yes the other user suggested that you are the common denominator in this scenario. But no I agree even if you were the trigger they weren't as in control as they thought
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:43 PM
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Only thing that won't drive you insane
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:29 PM
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You misunderstand. How can you be sure they weren't always in control of themselves except with you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:29 PM
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I honestly don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:13 PM
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How are you sure that's the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:13 PM
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Do you think there can be objectivity on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:12 PM
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No only tone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:08 PM
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In this example the meaning is very blatant and hard to misinterpret. Usually the tone etc is far more ambiguous and women seem to take the least charitable interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:08 PM
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Are they bad at handling them or are you egging them on or triggering them purposely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:03 PM
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I don't agree that it is relevant that less men prefer oral to piv just for the sake of argument, and I'm aware of the OP I only took issue with the use of the word sex specifically in the comment I responded to, sorry if I didn't make that clear
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:40 PM
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You're suggesting I don't understand secondary definitions. Why? I understand them fine, in most cases there's a logical case for them to exist. Shadow for example can be the occlusion of light or to follow. You see how those are two very distinct definitions, which is why it makes logical sense for there to be two distinct definitions? Secondary definitions are never like "apple means a red green or gold fruit" and then secondary definition of "apple also means bananas" That would make no logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:59 PM
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You don't seem to be listening. If anal and oral sex are just sex why is there a secondary definition needed? Couldn't one definition exist and be "the act of sexual penetration of any orifice in the body"? Why is that not the case? The second definition is just saying that you can use the terns anal and oral in conjuction with the term sex not that you can simply use the term sex to describe anal or oral the definition specifically says "such as anal or oral sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:43 PM
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The second definition went on to specify oral or anal as well. The second definition as it stands serves no logical purpose you or i can figure out. Therefore it can be ignored. The first definition is obviously the original and coherent definition that serves a logical purpose as a descriptor. The second definition does not serve that purpose, or any purpose. It's likely just trying to point out that anal and oral are types of sex, not that sex is anal oral or vaginal or else it would not need …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:36 PM
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Anal sex is a kind of sex. Just like apples and grapes are fruits but that doesn't mean you can can grapes apples. What you're doing is the equivalent of saying your favorite food is a suppository. The question you're asking is too vague. I'm just insisting words have definitions. If you're asking if I believe all words have specific individual meanings, then yes, I am. I do not believe the feelings of an individual is sufficient to alter a word definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:25 PM
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You're ignoring the question. Would it not be logical to specify to a doctor that you were harmed during anal sex? Why would you force them to tease it out of you by being vague? What purpose would it serve to just say sex when you mean oral or anal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:13 PM
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Why not guess why these terms exist? Logically speaking it would be because it is useful to be able to give more detailed accounts would it not? Like if you went to a doctor and said you hurt from having sex, and you meant anal sex, would it not be logical to say anal sex immediately?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:49 PM
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Okay let's try this a different way. Why do the terms "anal sex" and "oral sex" exist if they are simply sex as well? intercourse (such as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Even in the secondary definition it specifies anal and oral as separate categories
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:37 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:20 AM
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Sexual relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:19 AM
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I don't see how that is in any way in conflict with what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:45 AM
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The most counter intuitive thing I've ever experienced with women is telling them a guy is bad news increases her attraction to him and diminishes her opinion of you. Then they say they were manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:43 AM
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How is it not cheaper when the spouse going to work instead of saying at home can pay for the nanny, thus freeing up any income the man would have spent on it. Nobody said they shouldn't expect less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:58 PM
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Yes but that's beneficial to the FAMILY UNIT. The man is not the family unit, he is the man. It would be cheaper to pay for a nanny for 8 hours than to fund your wife's entire existence. Heck if she worked she could pay for the nanny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:14 PM
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I don't see how the two are related
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:21 PM
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She's not serving him though? She's taking care of both of their kids, that's not a favor to him. But funding her entire existence so she can stay home with the kids is a favor directly from him to her. Which is why unless she's doing other things for him, he's getting a bad deal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:20 PM
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I mean, it's a more concrete measurement than asking them how they feel
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:32 PM
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Surely not but if it were so superior surely they wouldn't feel the need to attempt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:17 PM
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She's just illustrated that she did not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:41 AM
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Women attempt suicide more so apparently it's not working remarkably better if better at all. But the point is the reason men claim to feel lonely is a result of the way women treat relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:40 AM
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Since forever, it is women who have been pressured to only have sex within committed relationships. Absolutely not. Men were always held to the same if not more rigorous standards
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 09:32 PM
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To be on the same page as men about how special a relationship is vs a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:32 PM
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Nobody suggested women date men they didn't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:36 PM
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Why do you think it is that men are encouraged to be more like women to solve the issue of men's loneliness when women valuing relationships in the same way as men would also solve the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:12 PM
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I think both your and my pov can coexist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:05 PM
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I mean I said most and desperation or lack thereof isn't really what's being discussed because it isn't relevant to the amount of options you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:54 PM
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Romantic relationships are irreplaceable. No amount of friends or platonic intimacy is going to replace romantic relationships. The fact that women can't seem to wrap their brains around this is puzzling to me. Seems to indicate they don't find romantic relationships to be any more special than a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:53 PM
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Romantic relationships are fulfilling in a different way for men than are platonic friendships. It is troubling women don't think that same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:47 PM
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It can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:45 PM
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Messaging someone isn't equivalent to actually having them as an option
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 06:06 PM
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Most men don't have the luxury of choosing types.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 05:50 PM
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