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I dunno, served me well 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:21 PM
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I'm in an almost 2 year relationship with one. The other one wanted to get married but I declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:07 PM
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This is stupid. I unknowingly used FDS and have gotten HVMs. The basic tenants are generally accurate. What's the saying, listen to the fisherman, not the fish? Guys can say it doesn't work but you don't listen to the fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:03 PM
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Man, I bet you're popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:42 PM
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That's irrelevant to the fact you are blatantly wrong in that men have less sex than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:10 AM
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https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure1final-w640.png Maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:14 AM
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Classic correlation equals causation logical fallacy. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:22 PM
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Actually I'm not and men overestimate women's ability to read social cues. But please, continue to use your anecdotal narrative to form your world view of women. Men are always in the wrong until they either stop or make it explicitly known.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:21 PM
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Go for it, if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:56 AM
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What?? The guy is in the wrong until he tells her EXPLICITLY how he really feels, not these bullshit "signs". The girl is NOT in the wrong until she realizes what is going on and doesn't stop taking advantage of it, if she even is taking advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:09 AM
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Yeah, they can't possibly both be in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:17 AM
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I think the "poor sap" knows it's not a friendship too and just want to orbit on the off chance she'll give him a chance, and then complain about it on Reddit like he has no agency to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 12:21 AM
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This is not friendship. Kinda obvious given she was laughing at them. Female/male friendships don't have to work that way. When they do work that way, you know something's off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:31 PM
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Or they want to die more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:23 AM
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Response strength is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:33 AM
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People can be wrong on both sides? Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:44 AM
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Yeah, couldn't be because of inflation, stagnant wages, economic recessions, sky rocketing school debt, information overload, threats of climate change, falling socialization, unemployment, drug addiction, childhood trauma, etc etc etc. Must be because feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:24 PM
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How about totally dropping this talking point because it's dumb and has very little to do with dating and hook up culture. Anecdote but relevant to my point: I had a guy tell me he wanted to kill himself because he had a small dick and no one wanted to date him. He later admitted that his mother beat him in his childhood and his parents abandoned him at 16. He didn't want to kill himself because no one would date him, he had extreme trauma. If someone wants to die because of "hook up culture" or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:15 PM
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My point is hook up culture is a non issue in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:23 PM
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No, but I'd say those who kill themselves are the most unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:54 PM
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Oh I don't know, inflation, stagnant wages, economic recessions, sky rocketing debt, information overload, threats of climate change, falling socialization, unemployment, drug addiction, I could go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:50 PM
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I don't have those stats. All I know is that men are 3x more likely to die by suicide. Women are more likely to ask for help. We're both miserable, and chalking it all up to hook up culture is irresponsible and just plan wrong (correlation as causation fallacy)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:25 PM
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Depression is a precursor to suicide. Depression doesn't always lead to suicide by suicide is almost always caused by depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:54 PM
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I'm not doing a competition. I'm saying that both genders are miserable and men and dying at far higher rates than women because of it. You are connecting it to feminism thus making the problem an invisible enemy, which is EXTREMELY irresponsible to do and you should be ashamed of pushing these kind of statistics to simply fit your narrative. It is ignoring the true sources of dissatisfaction among people and not focusing on how it can be amended (news flash, it's not putting women back in the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:58 PM
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Men kill themselves 3x the rate as women (2019 stat), so I don't think we're the most miserable gender dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:36 PM
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No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:49 PM
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??? Why are people acting like I am only talking about males? I have used gender neutral terms this whole time, because yes, both the male and female in situations like this are shitty. I'm not making a gendered point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:32 PM
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Show me the data that feminism fucks up kids as much as horrible marriages do and then we can have this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:10 PM
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I agree, leaving the bad relationship helps the child the most. I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about divorce, I was talking about shitty relationships with children where they haven't divorced. Studies show that a child's wellbeing is measured to be worse in troubled marriages than it is in divorced parents. But both are worse for the child than happy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:46 PM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:38 PM
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I agree, both the mother and the father are shitty parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:38 PM
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Fucking up your kid is a shitty parent. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:30 PM
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Asking and kissing will do the job, yeah. Won't know for sure she likes you until you ask. I've def been situation where guys misread my intentions and ask to kiss me and I say "no". Thank fucking god they asked. I think the bigger suggestion is never ask a girl you like to hang out. Always ask her out on a date. That was the guy's mistake I had to say "no" to. Then you're just rejected to go on a date, not a rejection for a kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:24 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:14 PM
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I didn't bring up experience, you did. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:14 PM
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I probably have just as much dating experience with women as they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:59 PM
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You can adopt. Then you wouldn't have to worry about a partner at all. But yeah, if you want a biological child you're going to have to partner with a woman and be a good partner, or your child is going to be, if we're going by statistics, fucked up. And fucking up your child because you refuse to be a good partner is being a shitty dad and you should absolutely not have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:55 PM
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You know the wellbeing of the child is directly correlated with the relationship strength of the parents, right? Being a shitty partner is being a shitty dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:46 PM
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He mentioned hanging out and a date. A date is not platonic. But hanging out is way fuzzier and very well may be platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:37 PM
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It's def a thing, but it isn't a gender thing. Just because you haven't experienced doesn't mean it doesn't happen: youre feeling a vibe, go on a date, and find out the person is not who you thought. Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:04 PM
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Just because a women hangs out with a guy doesn't mean she's open to be kissed, because she might just like him as a friend. Anyone who has been in a platonic friendship with the opposite sex knows that hanging out alone is a thing and is not weird, but is also not an invitation to be kissed. A date is also not automatically an invitation to be kissed, because you are gauging if you like someone, and you might arrive half way through it with the conclusion that you don't like them. How awkward i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:55 PM
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If she likes you I guarantee it won't kill the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:46 PM
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I mean, we've been exclusive for nearly two years. We became bf/gf after a month of dating. I use dating and exclusiveness interchangeably.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:44 PM
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Oh yeah? Well there's two of us that are saying that asking first is amazing, so that's at least twice the evidence that you have for the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:20 PM
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Yes, it is recommended. I have said both yes and no to this question and respect the men who asked 100% more than the men in my life who didn't ask. Fellas, don't listen to this person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:12 PM
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My SO is a DJ as a side hustle and hosts events and dance parties around the area. I went to one of his events, thought he looked hot up there doing his thing, slid in his DMs and we've been dating for nearly two years. Basically I know what I want and I tend to be the pursuer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:04 PM
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that is a "fat girl" BMI category, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:43 PM
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I think it's impossible to have a child and have freedom. No matter how many incentives, you need to accept you will not be free for a long time when you have them. I think the willing parents mostly accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:11 PM
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Let's be honest, there's always a reason for divorces. But I admire your forthcomingness in establishing expectations from the get go. I think a fault in many relationships is NOT establishing expectations of either party even though everyone has them. The status quo method of "figuring them out" as the relationship progresses is a recipe for disaster. It's not seen as romantic or whatever. When I noticed my SO was gaining weight and not taking care of himself I told him he either needs to lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:44 PM
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How is your incentive structure different than marriage's "perverse" incentive structure?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:35 PM
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Like I said, women aren't nearly as desperate as people on here paint them as, and your friends are a testament to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:15 PM
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Thinking some one must be either ugly or a bad personality because they can't get a LTR is not a just world fallacy, it are two very real reasons why someone might be bad at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:08 PM
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I was responding to a comment that literally said they knew those kinds of guys and that they had "no options". So I don't know what point you're trying to make here, or why you care so much to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:06 PM
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If they were that desperate we wouldn't have single 30 something old guys making 6 figures who have "no options". And yet...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:58 PM
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The joke was they say they're not ugly but they're actually ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:55 PM
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Sounds like they're either ugly or awful personalities. Few women in their 30s are that desperate. I turned 30 this year and I have gained that "don't give a fuck" quality where I would rather be single than be with one I was settling for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:17 AM
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lol how about you worry about yourself? You're acting like getting LTR has ever been difficult for me. I assure you, I have always gotten what I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:38 PM
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Idk, I'm 30, 21 BMI and get hit on at the bar by younger men pretty reliably. Idc how most women are holding up, I only care how I'm holding up, and as long as I hold up my low BMI I know I can get a younger guy pretty easily if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:27 PM
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If my bf and I don't work out I'm def going to start aiming for younger guys. After 35 men look like shit over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:27 PM
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26% of men have a over 10 year age gap. That's not rare but not exactly common either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:02 AM
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I think the point is the majority of men do not want younger women per say, but attractive women. Youth can correlate with attractiveness, but if you take care of yourself you can look 25 at 30, 35 at 40, etc. Basically still beautiful but not necessarily young. The majority of men are receptive to that, and only 26% of men have a relationship with a women that is a 10 year age gap or above. That goes against TRP tenants that the majority men want a young, 18-25 women when they're pushing 40, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:01 AM
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30F. I'm not single, and my SO checks most of these boxes, so I consider it pretty reasonable: 1) must be taller than me (I'm 5'2, my ideal height is in the 5'8, 5,9, 5'10 range. 6' and above is way too tall and makes me feel nervous and a little scared.) 2) Must be self sufficient, financially responsible, and takes initiative to be healthy and takes care of self 3) not overweight, preferably on the leaner side 4) shares at least one or two interests as me 5) big fan of music- I like to date dj…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:24 PM
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We don't want to wait until marriage?????? And the majority of men don't want to wait either. So what are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:28 PM
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widowed, divorced, separated, or never married (Taken from article) There buddy, I helped you out with your reading, should I change your diaper for you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:43 PM
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Divorced women are literally unmarried and are directly mentioned in the article. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:42 PM
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No. The link obviously includes divorced women. You just don't like it because they are facts that go against the narrative you've created for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:18 PM
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Divorced women are the poorest demographic. But tell me again how "a commitment short of lifetime is a scam that only benefits women". If anything, a commitment short of lifetime only benefits men. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/unmarried-women-hit-hard-by-poverty/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 04:17 AM
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The stats still are in line with my numbers. If you marry at 32, you probably met at 28 or 29. Also that includes engagement. So marrying after 3 years means you were most likely engaged for a year or so, which is 2 years of dating. Give or take a year or two. You're just being pedantic at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:53 PM
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Where did I ever say they were bad? But certainly not the best things that have happened to me. Of course I still go for it because I like to fuck, but I wouldn't kill myself if I couldn't do that. That's mentally ill talk. I'm not mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:48 PM
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There's more to life than relationships. I don't feel sorry for you if you can't realize that. Relationships has been the least of my joys in 30 years and counting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:44 PM
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Most people get married at an average of 2 years after dating. You looking at meeting around 25, 26, 27, 28. That's not "young" in the manner I know the person I responded to meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:42 PM
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The 28-32 age group has the least amount of divorces, so good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:14 PM
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Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:52 AM
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Sounds like your experience is an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:28 PM
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I don't doubt that men may feel this way, but it's not getting in the way or manifesting in relationships, so there isn't much functionality in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:27 PM
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Than do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:03 PM
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Because I can't interview every gen Z or below person and ask this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:54 PM
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That's impossible to know. The large majority of the responses are "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:50 PM
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We talk about past long term relationships sure, but explicit n count, no. Why do I need to bring up a guy I casually dated for a month, had sex with, and realized I didn't want to be his girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:49 PM
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I've never asked my partners. I simply don't care enough too. I'm much more concerned of why their past partners broke up with them, but don't know how to inquire about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:40 PM
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So you're saying you should only have sex with your wife or girl friend very rarely to watch for possible decreases in oxytocin?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:11 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:55 PM
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Don't get married unless you're 100% sure of it and don't feel like you're settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:48 PM
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Sounds like you have depression. I never get tired of things that bring me joy. Also, my bf makes me cum every time we have sex. I definitely never get tired of cumming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:42 PM
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One study? Obviously you're not in academia. One study doesn't mean shit. It has to be replicated multiple times to be accepted into the cannon of science. If you go off of that logic riding a bike will affect my ability to pair bond because I love riding bikes and it raises my oxytocin levels considerably. Oxytocin is connected to anything enjoyable. Guess we should stop doing all things pleasurable so we can tolerate mediocre sex 😂😂 If you can't find someone you are sexually compatible and emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:40 PM
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Yeah asking for my body count would be a deal breaker for me. I've never asked any of my partner's n count either, and have only discussed last LTRs with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:31 PM
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The general consensus of this thread shows you are correct :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:23 PM
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That's what my partners and I have done. We've talked about past long term relationships, but we don't get into the nitty gritty of every person we've ever dated and had sex with. That's just tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:22 PM
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lol that's why you date and marry someone you have good sex with. My current bf is the best lover I've ever had, out of 11 other men. The number of partners doesn't mean anything. I've never been more sexually compatible with anyone else. That is just dumb pseudoscience. If you date or marry someone who you don't have great sex with that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:19 PM
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I definitely lean towards more left leaning, liberal men. I would never date a religious or conservative man. So this is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:13 PM
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lol I can only hope that's the reason I've never been asked for mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:09 PM
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Yeah, I knew that most men didn't care enough to ask, but had to challenge the status quo of the vomit you see spewed on PPD to confirm what happens in the real world. I hope young women see this for their mental and sexual heath. (And of course talk about possible diseases/get checked before sex and all of that. But that never requires n count to discuss. :) )
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:03 PM
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Yeah for real. No one cares in the real world. PPD is such a warped representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:59 PM
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Yeah, I've never asked anyone's body count either. I just don't care. We've talked about past relationships, but not everyone we've ever had sex with. To me that's tacky and unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:58 PM
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I have had sex with 12 men and have been in 3 LTR, including my current relationship. Never in my 12 years of being on the dating scene has body count EVER come up. Men didn't/don't know my "value", so your point of me losing value is moot because it is a non issue, and never caused any trouble in getting men I wanted. What's the point of "value" if it's never displayed or known?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:06 PM
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I didn't make a theory. Nice job ignoring the fact that 84% of men think that "having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in life". My experiences correlate what we already know to be true. Most men want LTR and marriage. But go ahead, deny deny when it's staring at you in the fucking face just because you don't want LTR or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:01 PM
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84% of men want to get married, statistically. I've rejected 3 men in my dating time who wanted to marry me. The majority of men don't want to "fuck bitches casually". You are living in ignorance if you think that's the case. Don't be so solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:21 PM
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You think I wanted a relationship with all the men I fucked? How then, am I being used? I don't even think of it as me using them. I think of it as fun for both parties. But by the way they acted they sure seemed upset about me rejecting them for a LTR. Most men want to get married. Those are the stats. To get married you have to look for LTRs. Thus, most men want a LTR. Just because you don't give a shit doesn't mean you can project it to guys that you have never met and that I have fucked and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:04 PM
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I think courage, assertiveness, and independence should be inculcated into everyone. And I'm skeptical that masculinity is being attacked. Toxic masculinity is being attacked, and that's a good thing. "Good" masculinity isn't being attacked. Can you give me an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:34 PM
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I don't doubt that, but it being a direct result of liberalism and lack of manhood, whatever that means, is what I am skeptical about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:12 PM
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Where did I say that video games and porn was the direct cause? lol talk about reading comprehension issues. I said that he's claiming porn and video games are correlated and result from it, which he does say. Result and causation means the same thing. They are a RESULT of something, in this case, liberalism (LOL)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:38 PM
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Which is ANOTHER correlation without causation. And even more dubious of a claim. I'm not going to hold your hand and point to you where he directly states that men are reverting to porn and video games instead of "manning up" (LOL). Even though they are not mutually exclusive in the least. Liberalism and manhood aren't mutually exclusive either. Get fucking real. People just love to be mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:21 PM
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How am I villainizing you? I'm just saying you're an outlier and I've never met your kind in the wild. Doubting your ability to attract low n count woman without being a low n count man yourself is not villainizing you. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:08 PM
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That senator is literally equating holding degrees and having money to masculinity (even though both men and women do it) but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:42 PM
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He isn't saying that something's not happening, he's challenging the correlation it has with porn and video games. As he should, because anyone who isn't a dumbass knows that correlation does not equal causation and we should ALWAYS be skeptical about relationships that appear like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:41 PM
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You sound masculine, but not toxic. Good on you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:39 PM
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It's impossible to say what would have worked and what would have no worked when it comes to the past. Ruminating on that will kill you. There is no perfect way to go about love in life, and the only thing you can be sure of is that you will be burned by someone, if not multiple. Being a woman does not make that any different. However, I find it disrespectful to talk about your sexual past with your SO. If a man asked that of me it would be a huge red flag. But it might be a cultural thing. Luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:55 PM
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I'm not talking about how it effects men themselves, I'm talking about how it effects the relationships they're in. If it is more common to NOT talk about body count, which I argue it is, at least in my country, then the subconscious effects do not manifest into the relationship. It might be a culture thing, but here, in my liberal USA bubble, body count has literally never come up, and I've been in the dating scene for 11 years. Women here don't ask, and, to my knowledge, men don't ask either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:38 PM
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It doesn't matter how they operate on a subconscious level, all that matters is how it functions in today's real world. And it's arguable that this "subconscious" desire (which I don't deny is there) just doesn't manifest in today's typical relationships. And if it does not have an effect on today's relationships, then the question to your analysis is: so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:20 PM
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Guys admire you, women don't. We never talk positively about men who sleep around. However, most people don't even talk about body count, so you never will know unless you're dating the town whore (male or female). I'm 30, in a LTR, had 2 past serious relationships, and have had sex with 12 men total. Body count has never come up. Not even once. With anyone. Normal people don't talk about that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:42 PM
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So don't be surprised when low count women aren't interested in you and you only attract sluts. Honestly though, you are an outlier. I am 30 and have had 3 serious, long term boyfriends and have had sex with 12 men total. Body count has NEVER come up in my time of dating. Ever. I guess I date normal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:38 PM
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I'm autistic as well and have had auditory hallucinations for almost ten years now. I've never told anyone about it, and simply account for it by saying it must be my wild imagination. I read a book about women with Asperger's (I'm level one autism, so that's Asperger's) and the author wrote about multiple accounts of women on the spectrum claiming "sixth sense" and hearing voices. My senses and what I've heard in my head have come true. They aren't paranoid delusions and don't disrupt my daily …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:04 PM
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Oh my god it was a joke. Obviously I would remain loyal even if he didn't have a great dick. My other bfs didn't have great dicks but I loved them and never cheated during our time together. But big dick is a huge plus and it contributes to me thinking he's the one haha. If you don't think sexual compatibility makes or breaks a relationship I got news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:37 PM
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Yeah well it's better to be honest. Sex is meant to be pleasurable and bigger dicks (girth rather than length) are simply more pleasurable for most vaginas (but not all). It's just a fact, and you might FEEL like it's awful but it's not awful for women to desire pleasurable sex with their partners. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:28 PM
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Exactly. My life is valued the same as everyone else's. That's a win. I am not put on a pedestal. I am not measured more valuable for my breeding capabilities. I am a person. Exactly how it's supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:06 AM
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It's hardly a cost. Women have been assaulted and rape before and after feminism. I love how that was your example out of anything. It shows the nitpicking involved in terms of "cost".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:45 AM
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Lol if that's the thing you think we've lost most from feminism we're doing pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:34 AM
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How do you know they did? How do you know they did it more than they did now? That's quite a claim without living a 1000 years and seeing every possible assault take place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:12 AM
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This is a thread about what cocks women like. You get out of here if you don't care. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:21 PM
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What? Most men don't have satisfying dicks. I'm 30 and have had sex with 12 different men. They were fine, but I know my chances of finding a great dick is small so as long as he's keeping me happy outside the bedroom too I don't want to go any where. I look at guys and think "he probably has a small dick". That's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:16 PM
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I can see this. There's nothing better than a girthy penis. Women who say size doesn't matter are either lying, never had a girthy dick, or have a shallow tunnel that's easily hurt. Before my bf and I had sex for the first time we were messing around and I reached down and was shocked at the girth. I couldn't stop thinking about it until we had sex the first time the next week. Sure, guys can survive without girth. But damn it's nice for your girl. I feel so incredibly lucky I found one with a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:44 PM
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Christianity isn't the original "humanism". That is complete and utter bullshit. Have you ever read eastern philosophy? And Paul ruined any humanism real quick by ordering women to remain silent in the church and hold no leadership roles. Feminism and traditional Christianity are diametrically opposites. Jesus was a Humanist, the religion Christianity is not. A certainly not the original. Theologists have even wondered if Jesus took ideas from eastern philosophy to develop his lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:52 AM
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Male solipsism is thinking just because you don't care about LTR, most men don't want LTR. Most ppl want to get married and have kids. It's been proven with stats time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:17 PM
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No other time in our history have we had so many alternative options that skyrockets our dopamine at similar levels as sex. Of course people at going to choose those alterative, more easily attainable and often times more enjoyable options over sex. Men and women both. Sex is great, let's not make it out to be this mind blowing thing that nothing else can compete with. A lot of things can compete with it. We've never had so many things at our disposal that can compete with it in terms of feel go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:54 PM
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He's framing it as a human issue, not a gender issue. Attractive men and women don't have trouble with LTR/kids. Ugly men and women have trouble with LTR/kids. In other news, water is wet. I think it's a good thing that ugly/undesirable people have trouble reproducing. It's the way it was always supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:44 PM
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The majority of young men also want LTR relationships. They see who is getting laid, but what they don't see is that those men who exhibit #1 features are getting rejected for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:17 PM
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Are we hugely disadvantaged? I want LTR/kids and had no trouble in my life ever to find LTR. I think only ugly people who want LTR/kids are more disadvantaged then MAYBE in the past. And that's a huge maybe. I'm extremely skeptical that the "rise" in sexlessness is a direct causation of modern dating. I think it is moreso a direct causation of the modern environment. Video games is a hell lot more fun than sex. I've chosen playing Mario kart over sex multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:04 PM
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Because those men may be getting laid like tile but they aren't being taken seriously by the women who are fucking them and are being rejected for long term relationships. I've seen it and I've done it. Women can pump and dump too. I've had sex with guys and rejected them for long term because they have red flags like #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:46 PM
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You can't tell the energy of a guy through pics. That's why OLD is not the way to go for average guys. An average guy can have amazing energy and his pics won't pick up on that. I'm dating a quote "average looking guy" but he's a dj and organizes events and I met him at one of those events. That kind of fun, creative, music loving energy would have never been conveyed through pics on OLD and I very well might have swiped left.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:32 PM
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His examples did not include shaming crying in men. I'm only going off his examples. Your example is toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:47 PM
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At the very least yeah, but most of his examples of toxic feminine expectations of men (big dick, tall, protection expectations)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:06 PM
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Demanding protection from men is literally toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:03 PM
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lol YOU don't know what those words mean. Toxic femininity is essentially a way for women to sabotage others by using her traditionally feminine qualities. All of your examples are sabotage, with the excuse of feminine nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:02 PM
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Yeah what he is describing is toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:54 PM
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Your examples are toxic femininity, not toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:52 PM
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Her understanding is the true definition https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity#:~:text=In%20the%20social%20sciences%2C%20toxic,to%20certain%20traditional%20masculine%20ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:49 PM
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Men and women suck and both play a part in the decline. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:25 PM
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Which is cultural, not biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:46 PM
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Your argument is that men cannot open up emotionally with their male friends because of biology. I countered with if there is a reason, it's cultural conditioning. This whole post is about men allegedly not a able to open up emotionally in platonic friendships, wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:32 PM
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I'm not going to waste my time educating someone who is convinced that men cannot have close friendships because of BiOlOgY and not cultural conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:52 PM
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Uh no. Eastern cultures and African cultures did not have "romantic relationships". I was not talking about roman, Greek, and spartan relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:28 PM
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That's not odd at all. Sexuality can change given the right deprivation conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:11 PM
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No, it's a cultural thing. Strong, intimate male relationships and common and encouraged in other cultures. Western culture has fucked men up big time. However, that also means men have the ability to change for the better. But most don't care enough to. And then wonder why male suicide rates are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:33 PM
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What validation? This post is so messy and vague it's impossible to decipher what he actually means. I think all very heavy subjects should be saved for therapy. Like I said earlier, my dad committed suicide 10 years ago. I think I've talked about it twice in my SO and I's two years together. No one wants trauma vomit all over them. It's not "intimate". Neither men or women want to hear heavy stuff like that on a frequent basis, and that is valid and understandable. As an adult you need to learn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:10 PM
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What are you talking about? Sexual abuse? That is DEF for a therapist. Not for a woman. My dad committed suicide 10 years ago. Yeah, my SO knows about it but we don't talk about it. I'm not about to vomit up my trauma to him. I know that's not a burden to put on a partner. I save it for my therapist. I don't see how it's so hard to see what's appropriate and what's not appropriate emotional burden to put on a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:38 PM
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"most men are not gay, so that would never work" That's exactly what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:33 PM
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I'm wondering what a therapist would have to say about you thinking guys telling their bros they had a bad day is "gay".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:26 PM
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I'd say to my son or nephew that they need therapy. It is not a woman's job to fulfill the emotional needs of men completely. If they need something like that so badly and don't want to seem gay (lol what?) they need a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:20 PM
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so you're saying men who like small breasts are illogical. got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:29 PM
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Ok? That's still quite an illogical jump to assume that carries over to doing nice things for someone you love and have been dating for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:19 PM
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They love what makes them mad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:14 PM
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no, a pick me is a woman who drops all her personal convictions, standards, and morals in the hopes of landing a guy. Caring for your SO isn't a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:00 PM
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Definitely doesn't help him, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:40 PM
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yeah I had a sit down with him in January. And for a while he stopped drinking and started working out. But now he's gone back into his old habits. So I dunno whether I want to talk about it with him or not again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:20 PM
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Highly unlikely. Men care about economic status of women. A rich man marrying a poor woman only happens if she is a 10/10. That is to say, hardly ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:12 AM
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This is true. I'm seriously considering whether I should break it off with my boyfriend or not because he's getting a beer gut. He outperforms on one or two other areas of my criteria, but underperforming on looks, which is a huge factor for me, doesn't get "averaged out" by the one or two outperformances. My point being, that's a pretty spot on analysis of how it truly works. It's extremely complex, and it's not about averages at all. I think that that misunderstanding men have of women is how …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:09 AM
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Yeah, like your average looking woman who grew up in poverty can just "go after men who are rich". What a delusional comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:53 AM
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I think it certainly plays a part in it. I also think socio economic/education plays with it as well. You can see that the lowest rated states in education also have the highest divorce rates. There is something called death from despair, and you see that in higher amounts in states like Oklahoma, Alaska, New Mexico, Arkansas, and other states that rank lowly on quality of life and education. I think logically that extends to divorce because of despair; it's hard to be married when you are so de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:55 AM
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I think the story would end as the consultation of the oracle directly causing any predicted downfall to happen. some things are better left unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:55 AM
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This can be true, but the way he puts it it sounds like a very obvious chain of events. If that is the case, he should be breaking up with her, not the other way around. Not respecting your partner's emotional vulnerability (granted, not dumping like you would a therapist, because that's above a partner's paygrade) is a red flag. However, it is also important for everyone (men and women) learn what healthy emotional expression is. I'm prone to depression and anxiety, but I don't dump that on my …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:24 PM
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Maybe you shouldn't ask a question of a highly individualized experience to a broad audience, especially when no context is given. What exactly did he say to them? What if his "emotionally opened up" was telling her he wants to fuck his dog? We have no clue what happened to have them react negatively, so yeah, I think asking a vague question like this is kind of dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:07 PM
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I'm going to say the same thing to you as I said to another guy because you seem young and I've been in the game a lot longer than you: If a woman asks you to open up emotionally, do it. Honestly, that should be YOUR shit test. You think relationships that aren't vulnerable last? Hell to the fucking no. Get some standards and dump her ass if she disrespects you for acting like a goddamn human being. Don't enable shitty women. Good ones are out there. Maintain your self respect and find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:03 PM
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If a woman asks you to open up emotionally, do it. Honestly, that should be YOUR shit test. You think relationships that aren't vulnerable last? Hell to the fucking no. Get some standards and dump her ass if she disrespects you for acting like a goddamn human being. Don't enable shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:59 PM
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You're dating women who don't like being opened up to. Not all women think that way. I didn't dodge your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:54 PM
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Some women like men who open up emotionally. They're the ones who are saying they want men to open up emotionally. Women are not a monolith and want different things. The end. Next!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:45 PM
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Debate isn't a conversation. Here's a quick run down: https://www.sdstate.edu/students-association/keys-successful-debate Oh look there: "Provide proofs and credible data instead of just solely your own opinion". You're only giving your opinion. That's why you're being laughed out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:56 PM
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Yeah but you didn't post a debate. You posted an opinion. Debate 101 mate: opinions are off the table. If you tried to debate with an opinion in any respectable circle they'd laugh you out the door. That's what's happening now: they are laughing you out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:49 PM
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I am a woman and this is not true. Sit the fuck down. Honestly the audacity of some men who try to explain what women want without even respecting us as human beings. We aren't a monolith. We all want different things. There. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:38 PM
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