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5

No. You did not explain anything. None of your links support your opening sentence "There is a common misconception that man are hornier than women".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:34 PM
11

Are you insane?!? Countless scientific research based studies have proven beyond reproach that YES men are hornier than women. I won't bother posting links you can easily google this and there is literally an ENDLESS sea of proof this is true. Conversely, there has NEVER been even a SINGLE scientific study to show the opposite. As for the Deadbedroom forum: that's the single solitary place on planet earth that you will ever find women complaining they cannot get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:51 PM
5

While I absolutely will concede that many new fathers utterly FAIL to properly support the mother and baby, I have also witnessed (and experienced) the SuperMom Syndrome as a major component. For those unfamiliar, a SuperMom is the complete transformation from wife/mother/human into some other worldly child focused creature who provides absurdly excessive attention to every unnecessary detail about the child even to her own peril. No matter how supportive the father (or even a staff of nanny’s) …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:47 PM
3

That forum is literally the only place on planet earth with any measurable population of women unhappy about not getting laid. Do not be confused by a few hundred vocal women posters over there: the universally understood stereotype of a horny husband with uninterested wife remains by FAR the global norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:20 AM
10

An ongoing commitment to monogamy necessitates an ongoing commitment to actually meeting sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:04 PM
3

No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:59 AM
7

Yes all over Reddit, basic obvious facts like this are challenged, because it means men and women are NOT 100% equal in every single way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:11 PM
1

Losing weight is MUCH easier than making bank. What could be easier than doing LESS of something (eating junk)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:20 PM
3

It’s irrelevant whatever your partner “used to do” in past relationships. If your legitimate needs are not being met, make this a deal breaker and be ready to end the relationship if he is unwilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:10 PM
10

So the tactics of PUA are either totally expected and normal … IF he is hot … or creepy red pill if he’s normal looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:28 PM
2

The human species would go extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:59 AM
1

I don’t know why she would ask this. But IF she did, yes I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:37 AM
5

Yes I like and love and respect my wife. Why would I remain married if I didn’t like her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:04 AM
1

I love my wife. If you’re asking me do I value my marriage enough to go a whole month without sex, the answer is Yes. But this is a stupid theoretical question because I can’t really think of any legit scenarios where my wife would just “want to take a break from sex for a month”. About as likely as me wanting “to take a break from monogamy for a month”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:59 AM
1

Given that women never approach men, it is our duty to always approach women. The survival of species is hanging in the balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:43 PM
23

Anyone (man or woman) wanting sex with a man has it on easy mode. Anyone (man or woman) wanting sex with a woman has 1000 times harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:54 PM
1

This is the consequence of men having 100 times stronger sex drive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:15 AM
2

And I will reply that more women invent unnecessary “chores” and then blame their husbands for not doing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:50 AM
0

What you’re doing wrong is choosing to be being 100% absorbed as a mum. That leaves 0% as a person and 0% as a wife. Again I feel so bad for your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:36 AM
1

You are doing it wrong if you actually believe it’s not possible to separate from your baby ever. I hope you aren’t married!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:32 AM
2

All the overwhelming stuff you are doing right now … divide it into 3 categories. Things that can be outsourced = pay somebody else to do those things. Things that must be done but can’t be outsourced = split that with your partner. Things that are not actually critical = just stop doing these entirely !! Redirect all of the time saved into your marriage. Because this (your marriage, your spouse, your sexlife) is actually super important your kids well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 10:16 PM
2

Again I say this is totally avoidable and your resignation to being a victim is literally the chief problem. So long as you think it’s unsolvable, you will never escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:22 PM
0

This is only true if you allow it to be so. I would never stay in a sexless marriage. So guess what? My marriage has an active sex life. If that ever ends, my marriage ends. Meanwhile I do my part in keeping the marriage going.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:05 PM
3

This stage is entirely optional
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:01 PM
5

Lots of new moms abandon all pretense of wanting sex or prioritizing their marriage. This is obviously quite selfish and no husband should put up with this crap. Lots of new dads don’t pull their weight even in the least. So no wonder they aren’t getting any sex. In between these 2 extremes, middle ground is possible IF the new mom can simply prioritize sex AND the new dad is doing his fair share of parenting. If you can’t find the middle ground: divorce! Don’t stay sexlessly married. So new mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:46 PM
3

Cheating when young and uncommitted makes zero sense. Just break up! But with kids and a mortgage, married men in a sexless marriage often seek sex elsewhere to save their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:03 PM

On average, men have a higher sex drive than women. Because of this gender difference, men are (sexually speaking) forced into a role of pursuit. And women are forced into a role of gate keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:32 PM
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“how much time time can actually devote to staying fit” you realize this is just 100% an excuse? Remaining a healthy weight is NOT really a function of time. Technically it requires LESS time to eat fewer calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 02:13 PM
1

No deal. Male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:45 AM
1

Be a good partner, and make “sex” a deal breaker. Do those 2 simple things and you will never be in a DeadBedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:45 AM
1

I object to your portrayal that “men want sex” is anything worthy of bashing or moral inferiority. Yes: men want sex. So what? If that fact bothers you, maybe avoid men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:06 PM
2

No. This has been well studied in academia and the stereotype is 100% correct: men are waaaaaay hornier than women. It’s not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:26 AM
1

Every day and twice on Sundays. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:29 PM
5

While you are absolutely correct in asserting that lots (most?) LTRs / marriages ultimately do wind up in a de facto “maintenance sex” mode, you are incorrect to presume this is not enjoyable or somehow “bad”. Sex is not special or different from any other relationship interaction where we see this same pattern: dinner conversations, vacation planning, holiday gift giving. All these things, over time, degrade a bit into maintenance mode. So what? Just go with it! If you seriously expect your spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:59 PM
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I want (and expect) all of those with my wife: non-sexual affection, intimacy, friendship, closeness. The fact that I also require regular sex (meaning this is a complete relationship deal breaker for me) in no way means I am 1-dimensional sex fiend, or that I don’t also value those other things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:53 PM
1

I have lots of women friends. How is this even remotely controversial or worth debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:54 AM
1

Yes. Sex is a need. 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:54 AM
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Men need sex. That’s the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:57 AM
2

Ask her to think of 3 specific changes that would reduce her being “touched out”. This may well mean reprioritizing things, her doing less of certain kid things, outsourcing, you picking some things up, or even NOT doing certain kid things at all. She cannot go on constantly prioritizing the kids mean while her marriage is at grave risk. “Hope” is not a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:19 PM
3

Now tell us what specific things (actions) are YOU taking to ensure an active enjoyable sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:07 PM
3

Oh it’s much worse than just Reddit downvotes. I have been accused (in other forums) of sexual coercion (aka, rape) because my LL wife is having “unwanted sex” with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:57 PM
3

Agreed. We fixed our dead bedroom marriage with scheduled sex twice per week. My LL wife can then plan for our encounters and she can do whatever she does to get into the mood. Versus me just spontaneously initiating sex which for her is always a 100% instinctive No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:32 PM
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About 6 inches of height
/r/seduction09/10/22 12:53 PM
9

There is no equivalent because men don’t have nearly as much opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:53 PM
1

Your reason then is people change, lose interest in sex, nothing personal just get over it? Ok well some spouses lose interest in sex, other spouses lose interest in monogamy. No big deal, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:55 AM
5

2 reasons: 1) women in general are lower libido than men in general 2) much of women’s libido is “responsive” and after 5 years together he is no longer the exciting new guy, and she does not respond to the stable boring partner
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:50 AM
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DB forum is literally the only place on planet earth with any measurable number of women who want sex but aren’t getting it. No: there are NOT an equal number of women suffering from an uninterested spouse. At least 10 or 20 men for every one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:45 AM
0

Because video games are a boring waste of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:55 AM
0

No
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:12 AM
1

Did you really just ask “how are women getting laid”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:01 PM
1

I fully support divorce laws that spilt assets 50/50. I fully support divorce laws that impose child support based on formulas around custody and income gap. I totally REJECT divorce laws with any form of alimony … except for (in extreme cases only) a possible short period of “rehabilitation” as a non working spouse gets back into the workforce. Alimony is an archaic system that has no place in today’s society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:59 AM
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Men have a perpetual need for regular sex. Whereas most women seem able to take it or leave it, going long stretches without sex. And if the need ever does arise women can easily (within minutes or hours) have some interested guy in her bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:53 PM
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Because men (in general) want sex much more than women. So men will actively pursue and find sex, despite the fact it is so much harder. In fact, this wide gender libido gap is the exact reason WHY it’s so easy for women to “find” sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:00 PM
2

Speaking for myself (but also the handful of close male friends who have shared such info) this is my answer. So long as a wife / partner remains sexually enthusiastic for her husband, AND does not gain a bunch of weight, his attraction for her will likewise be strong. True that men generally would find a beautiful young woman to be … beautiful. But that does NOT mean any loss of attraction for an (older) spouse / long term partner (again IF she stays active and interested in him sexually AND do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:59 AM
3

Agreed. Sex is precisely the same importance as monogamy. Either both are important, or neither can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:11 PM
2

I’m equally certain that a normal libido person would NEVER enter a relationship with an asexual who never wants sex. So the sudden change is this partner no longer wants sex. The abnormal non sexual one who changed should be the one to end things. It’s not cheating to inform your sexless partner the relationship is now open.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:27 AM
3

By opening the marriage, the partner who wants sex IS getting what they want. The burden of breaking up should fall on the abnormal asexual partner.. but like OP says what’s the big deal since they don’t value sex why break up just because your partner is doing some unimportant thing (sex) that you don’t even want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:08 PM
3

The sex rejecting partner has this same option available.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:41 PM
3

If one partner unilaterally declares no more sex, the other can unilaterally declare the marriage is open.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:04 PM
1

It’s 2022 and alimony is exceptionally rare and almost never deserved. These are archaic laws that are being reformed and and can’t come fast enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:03 PM
5

That forum is the ONLY place on planet earth with any number of HL women. The general population is definitely NOT a 50/50 split more like 90/10 split.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:59 PM
1

Agree 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:54 PM
1

It’s absurdly easy to be a desirable woman. JDBF (just don’t be fat).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:30 PM
2

Maybe 4 dates max.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:04 AM
1

Indisputably true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:21 AM
2

You must not have read the OP or my response. All things that require time and energy and priority are part of this same negotiation. How long YOU been married?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:35 PM
6

If a couple is negotiating about SuperMom chores but NOT discussing sex, then I agree the relationship is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:23 PM
1

OP is on here posting about negotiations. Redirect your yelling to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:03 PM
7

Like all things in relationship (not all of which are “chores”) sex is something that needs to be prioritized against every other activity that takes time and energy. Absolutely sex is entirely relevant to this thread!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:02 PM
5

Go ahead and bake away!! I would never oppose you taking on Glinda. Just don’t claim these over-the-top gestures are part of the shared duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:37 PM
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I’ve witnessed plenty of SUPERMOMs exhausting all of her energy trying to out-do the other super moms. Anything these husbands might do to assist with her impossible high standards, she moves the goal posts and adds MORE onto both plates. Meanwhile sex becomes her lowest priority in life. Sorry but if you are going to post about negotiating fair distribution of domestic duties, you have to put ALL the cards on the table and only THEN can a fair split happen where both his and priorities do not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:16 PM
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This negotiation must also include mutual agreement on exactly what are REASONABLE domestic duties vs some extreme SuperMom-of-the-year candidate. If she wants to bake cupcakes and craft personalized cards for the neighborhood, that is entirely on HER (nor is he picking up her share of duties to cover while she bakes).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:39 AM
1

Older men continue to need sex but women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:29 PM
3

Yes sex once or even twice a month is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:19 AM
44

Your friend has been dating somebody for 9 months and no sex? Absolutely he should break up (8 months ago).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:45 PM
3

Older man here. Single digit body fat and elite level cardio fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:21 PM
2

A 10% success rate is exceptionally good. Any woman should be proud that her man is at the very top with only 90% rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:52 PM
2

Men on average have MUCH higher sex drive than women (on average). This is why men pursue women, and why men pay for sex, and women do NOT pay for sex. Simple biological gap in sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:57 AM
1

But there are fertile women all over the place at all times. Why would my sexual needs be limited to the fertility cycle of a single woman? That’s not how biology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:51 PM
1

Only within the confines of an exclusive monogamous relationship which not a natural construct rather is a (quite recent, relative to human species timeline) social/societal construct. My biological sex drive is completely unrelated to my partner’s fertility cycle. I’m always looking for sex. This is a basic need which (for men) is perpetual not cyclical. My fertility window is 24/7/365.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:30 PM
1

For a woman, maybe. But men can reproduce without any such limits. So the natural state for men is to always need sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 05:45 PM
1

The first half of your reply is true BUT an individual’s success (or failure) to reproduce is not a reflection of the basic needs of the species. As a human, I am born with the basic biological needs of my human species which compels me to seek out sex. The fact that it also feels good is a bonus. Why don’t you relax, unclench, go have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:41 PM
1

It absolutely does! My needs are defined by my biology. I can’t deny what nature intends for me, that would be unnatural and unhealthy for me as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:21 PM
2

Lookup “biological imperative”. Yes, sex absolutely is a basic human need.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:53 PM
2

Worse than just me dying, without sex our entire species would go extinct! This really is our most basic biological imperative: to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:32 PM
2

Sex is a need in the same way that human relations of any kind are a need. The statement “You won’t die without conversion and contact with other humans” does not mean it’s not a basic need.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:12 PM
2

Just because you (like most women) are low drive doesn’t prove that sex is not a need. Because it is a NEED.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:06 AM
2

Sex absolutely IS a biological need. Without it our entire species would go extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:17 AM
2

What’s wrong with you!? Stop throwing around baseless accusations of rape. I need sex. I structure my life and relationship to ensure my sexual needs are met. In other words, I am a normal healthy male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:29 PM
2

You don’t know what I need
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:33 PM
3

Masturbation is NOT sex. I need sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:17 PM
2

Can’t get sex from my hands
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:47 PM
2

You don’t know what my needs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:26 PM
4

Good for you. I’m a man, so I need sex, therefore I need to be in a relationship. See that? Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:46 PM
-3

Why did you stay with a man to whom you didn’t want sex? Break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:23 AM
5

Wives stopping sex after marriage is precisely as common as husbands going outside their marriage for sex. Some lose interest in sex, others lose interest in monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:20 AM
3

It’s not taught. Men just instinctively “know” that more sex is always better than less sex. Women are just fine with less sex, without being taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:04 AM
1

I’m far from a virgin. Sex is not just another novelty to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:25 PM
3

Well yeah! The question asks about sex. That means with another person. Masturbation is not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:31 PM
4

Man here. Sex is most definitely a NEED for me. Yes: I value sexual intimacy as if my life depended on it, like oxygen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:58 PM
1

Nobody with a brain says that. Stop listening to brainless people.
/r/seduction27/11/21 07:37 PM
11

Equalize sexual libido between genders
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:19 PM
2

I was banned from DeadBedrooms because I told my wife the truth: that I wouldn’t stay faithfully married without regular sex. In fact this completely fixed my DB and we’ve stayed happily married (that was 15 years ago) with great sex 2X/week. DB mods claim my story violates “Rule 5: Advocating rape is not okay”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:14 PM
-2

“Then how about we just be friends with benefits”
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:38 AM
2

Sorry you are not a guy so you don’t know what my biology dictates. And you won’t die if your don’t get fidelity. Keeping the marriage together is best for children, which is only possible (in a sexless marriage) by having an affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:10 AM
2

I’m not the least bit surprised that women libido declines. I’m not believing their husbands just stop having sex. I would expect their husbands simply are having sex elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:07 AM
3

Biology dictates this. It’s not really a choice. Why is fidelity so important?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:21 PM
2

You are saying the men are celibate? I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:17 PM
3

Sex is NOT trivial to healthy people (most especially men) with a normal sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:23 AM
1

While each individual parameter might indeed follow a normal distribution, the combination of specific parameters is vastly different which takes on an exponential decay shape. This is basic statistics when dealing with multiple independent outcomes: probabilities are multiplied together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:06 AM
1

Fidelity isn’t possible if her libido drops.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:45 AM
4

Over time, some people lose interest in sex (with their partner). Other people lose interest in fidelity. This is not just a coincidence. Monogamy is simply not possible in the face of a libido gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:43 AM
1

Why would I leave? We are happily married and have sex twice per week. I fixed my dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:17 PM
5

A sexless marriage is unsustainable. No wife should have unwanted sex, but no husband should have unwanted celibacy. If she does not want it, the only options are open the marriage or divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:03 AM
8

Not wanting sex as often as your partner is clearly an incompatible relationship so you definitely SHOULD break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:44 AM
10

I was banned from dead bedrooms for saying pretty much this. Their mods claimed I broke a rule about advocating for sexual coercion. I never said anything remotely coercive! Just that if your sexual needs are not met, show her the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:41 AM
15

It’s perpetually appropriate. Unmet sexual needs are a legitimate reason to end any relationship. How is this even a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:35 AM
-1

Sexual withholding is very much a form of abuse. Whether or not this is “equivalent” to punching a hole in the wall is kind of a moot point. Either way this is an abusive relationship and you should quickly find the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:23 AM
2

The sexual desire gap exists because men are, on average, MUCH hornier than women (on average). Many hundreds of research based scientific studies have proven this. Not a single research based peer reviewed study has ever proven the opposite. This has nothing to do with “attractiveness”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:30 PM
1

Another non-entitlement is fidelity. Fine if you don’t want sex: your body / your choice. But I do want sex (with a willing partner). My body / my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:56 PM
0

Nobody cares about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:07 AM
6

You appear to be arguing that men ought not be monogamous in a marriage. That it takes multiple women’s libido to equal one man’s. I would agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:28 AM
2

I really would not wait too long for sex with any woman. If she “makes me wait” then I take that as a huge red flag she has some hang ups over sex, and that’s definitely not the right girl for me to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:26 AM
1

I don’t see the problem in keeping a platonic room mate wife who does her equal share of everything. Meanwhile he dates freely. Not much different than him being single, without the downsides of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:21 PM
1

A married man who doesn’t want to divorce (kids, finances, etc) can simply meet his sexual needs elsewhere. Then who really cares that his platonic room mate wife is not putting out? Her choice does not affect him greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:14 PM
1

“Leverage” is unnecessary in a world where each of us has full bodily autonomy. Nobody is entitled to sex (not even with spouse). But neither is an uninterested spouse entitled to fidelity. A man doesn’t have to leave: he is free to pursue sex elsewhere without divorcing simply by opening the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:01 PM
1

He can either open the marriage or divorce. If he chooses divorce, that would mean 50% custody and little to no child support (depends on the salary difference between him and her).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:44 AM
1

“It’s normal to lose interest in sex with marriage, just accept it” Also normal then is to lose interest in fidelity. Just accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:13 AM
3

2 per week is my standard, so 1-2 per month is firmly in divorce territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:08 AM
1

It’s up to the guy to ensure this does not happen. Just say NO to a dead bedroom marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:02 AM
1

Where are these men who want forced monogamy and more slut shaming? You are just making it all up!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:50 AM
2

There is very little SMV gap between average men and ugly men. Both groups have essentially 0 (zero) SMV. Only attractive men have an SMV>0.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:07 AM
2

Most male priests are frequently masturbating and/or having sex (with men or women or sadly girls or boys). The male sex drive is waaay more powerful than religious vows of “chastity”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:01 AM
6

“women want sex” if conditions are perfect and Chad is wooing her during her fertile 2 days of the month: Yes!!! Otherwise, meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:42 PM
1

Don’t worry. Women’s power through sexual gate keeping is alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 10:17 AM
1

To those who say sex is not a need: monogamy is not a need either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:11 AM
4

A woman might have 451 simps orbiting her, but since she is not attracted to any of them, she only wants Chad and is invisible to him. Therefore her dating life DOUBLE sucks because she has to fight off all that unwanted attention meanwhile she is denied what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:46 PM
2

I think men have a higher and more consistent baseline interest / need for sex than women. Many (research based) studies have also confirmed this. Often times the stereotype is true. This is one of those times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:12 PM
5

Thirsty people who won’t drink 80% of available water, instead going without, are not in fact all that thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:12 AM
3

Let me guess: you aren’t in sales. Maybe government or education.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:03 AM
6

Men clearly have picked: craving sex won by a landslide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:26 AM
1

Just wear a condom every time. Problem solved. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:42 AM
3

Men do get bored but have a high enough baseline sex drive that even in LTR will still want/need sex twice per week. Once a woman gets bored her hormonal baseline sex drive is more like once per month (skipped months are fine too).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:40 AM
4

The only part you got wrong was when you said “women crave sex” because literally everything else you said about women’s selectivity for men is at odds with that. Those who crave cannot simultaneously be selective. Pick one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:18 AM
1

Women are NOT vilified for finding 90% of guys sexually unattractive!!! Any such “vilification” stems from women complaining how they can’t find any desirable guys to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:12 PM
1

Your subject talks about “mutable” so how can you ignore genetics (vs not)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:43 PM
28

Man: be > 6’ tall Woman: just don’t be fat The difference here is the one is 100% NOT within his control, the second is 100% within her control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 12:06 AM
1

Agreed. Frequent outsourcing of lots of low value things (not just housekeeping, but mowing the lawn, various repairs, etc) was instrumental in saving my marriage from DeadBedroom back when the kids were young and time/energy were legitimate cock blockers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:32 AM
2

A lot of cheating men feel like they “deserve it” too. Doesn’t mean they, or your best friend, are right in their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:00 AM
2

Spot on, end thread. Women have low libido, men have high libido, THAT is the economic reality we all live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:30 PM
12

So let her go casually date guys that she has chemistry with. Meanwhile dude find a new girl !!! This one isn’t for you. There are 3.5 Billion other girls on earth, go find one of them.
/r/seduction03/08/21 11:37 AM
13

It means she does not want sex with you. Game over, move on.
/r/seduction03/08/21 11:05 AM
2

Baumeister certainly writes the truth about male and female libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:52 AM
1

I have a similar deal with my wife: sex twice per week. And for the same reason as you, she is low libido and would otherwise “forget” all about sex. This discussion was key to fixing our dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:15 AM
5

I’m not excusing this but I am explaining that because you NEVER would initiate, a logical consequence is that men may not know your boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:13 AM
6

See the downside of you/women being unwilling to ever initiate, always expecting men to approach, is this will not always happen on your preferred terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:06 AM
7

I’m not talking about catcalls or disrespect. Even just being approached often is cause for complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:55 AM
-1

I’ve never heard any credible person or source make that claim about virginity. You are just plain wrong! Any normal person knows virginity is a big red flag, run the other way, sexual dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:21 AM
6

See this is exactly why men are constantly coming on to women left and right, no matter what she’s doing, how busy or uninterested she might seem. Many women (even average attractive types) complain about this, how men are always trying to get into their pants. Yes. We are! Because what she ^ said. If WE don’t, you never will, and our human species goes extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:19 AM
6

I disagree. I hate makeup and couldn’t care less about fancy clothes or hair styles. Just good hygiene and don’t be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:24 AM
3

Because being a cumrag for countless guys is the only alternative to total abstinence before marriage. /s Maybe try this. Have sex with the guy you are dating and see if you two are sexually compatible. If not, break up and find a different guy to date. This avoids a big mistake winding up married to a sexual dud.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:28 PM
1

I’m not promoting “promiscuity” rather I advocate for responsible sex between responsible adults. As to irresponsible people, well I don’t worry about the consequences they will suffer, and they won’t take any advice from me anyway so why are you bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:04 PM
1

Yes. Negative consequences come to irresponsible people. That’s exactly my point! Don’t have sex without contraception. And don’t “wait for marriage” before validating sexual compatibility with your partner for life. Or face the consequences of being irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:11 PM
3

Google “contraception”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:57 PM
6

It’s terribly irresponsible to leave something so crucial as sexual compatibility up to chance AFTER marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:15 PM
2

I would give up all my money before I would give up all sex. Normal healthy men cannot survive without sex. But the government will support poor men without money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:42 PM
2

You make an excellent point where OP failed entirely. And I also failed to follow the link and read the (deleted) thread to come away with this idea about the “definition” as key issue. My failure is more forgivable than OPs. And my reply may have been different otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:51 AM
4

That’s terrible. I shared my own personal experience. Yours is obviously different than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:50 AM
6

Man here and I have never once in my life been sexually assaulted or harassed by a woman. Conversely, many if not most of the women I know have been harassed, multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:32 AM
1

But people who don’t even use BC are such idiots what makes you think “just wait” is the fix for that? Those people should not have sex ever! This isn’t a thread about the merits of BC. We must assume sex in this context involves birth control. So there is no good reason for “women to make men wait”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:03 PM
1

You have hand waved and conflated to a completely different question. The topic is not “how long to make men wait for unprotected sex” so we must assume that birth control is being used. (Had it been asked about unprotected sex, my answer would be “forever: do not have unprotected sex period”). So birth control is a given. At which point if it’s condoms or nothing, there is not a man alive choosing “no sex” over condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:56 PM
1

All of those are easily addressed by birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:03 PM
-4

Wrong. There is no benefit in “waiting” for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:38 AM
10

I 100% agree it’s better NOT to have any girlfriend or wife than it is to be an undesired simp in a dead bedroom relationship. Men: if she’s not interested, NEXT her please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 10:54 AM
1

JDBF (just don’t be fat)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:29 AM
1

I sincerely hope you never marry a normal healthy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:06 AM
1

Google “why do married men cheat” answer “unmet sexual needs”. Married women cheat most often for different reasons, rarely is it because her spouse is an unwilling sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:37 AM
1

Agree one should always clearly state their needs. And I believe most (men) who cheat are simply meeting unmet sexual needs elsewhere in order to save the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:10 AM
2

How many days to orbit the sun on your planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:08 AM
2

Normal healthy people cannot remain celibate in a sexless marriage. Do not marry someone who’s last priority is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:06 AM
2

You want to be partners for life? This includes a normal active sex life with your spouse ... and ONLY your spouse. That’s the whole idea behind marriage, with respect to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:17 PM
4

Those marital vows are bidirectional. The whole point of those vows IS to meet your partners needs! So yeah, sexless is 100% equivalent to going elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 11:07 AM
3

I agree that “open” is more honorable, but regardless, a sexless marriage cannot last so yeah the man getting sex elsewhere is saving that marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:14 AM
4

Well for starters, only the top couple percentile of men are nearly attractive enough ... as a married man with nothing else to offer. Then further split that down by “getting frequent sex at home”. Now further split it down by “still isn’t enough and has no scruples so gonna cheat anyway”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:34 AM
1

Casually leave open your Net Worth dashboard on Mint or Personal Capital so that she can see all of these figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:26 AM
1

There is definitely a tiny minuscule fraction of people (let’s be honest: men) who get frequent sex at home AND cheat. That is such a small number that is barely worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:11 AM
0

Cheating is precisely equivalent to sexless marriage. Cheating is neither better nor worse. Cheating is usually a consequence of sexless marriage, and in fact is the only non rapey way to save a sexless marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:56 AM
1

As a normal healthy man, I need sex multiple times per week, in perpetuity. So I would say that makes it worth quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:51 AM
2

So what? You think women with large boobs and thigh gap are “upset” that men find that attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 12:27 PM
3

As a guy with money, this being considered “attractive” sure doesn’t bother me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 01:00 AM
3

Women who continue dating men-who-suck-in-bed, instead of breaking up right away, do not care about orgasms, so Yes they deserve sexual boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:52 AM
7

Then it sounds like women deserve to become sexually bored with their male partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:46 AM
2

And you did the right thing and broke up long before boredom. So I don’t buy the whole “bored ... because he sucks in bed” theory
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:52 PM
1

We almost never fight. Married a looong time!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:59 AM
3

Lesbian bed death is the answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:57 AM
14

Why would women ever stay beyond 4 dates with a man who sucks in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:56 AM
5

Why then would women stay in a pleasureless relationship for more than a few dates? That relationship should not last long enough for either to get bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:53 AM
1

Sexual availability. Men are always DTF. Women are rarely DTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 12:27 AM
3

She wants to meet more guys? Nothing prevents her approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 12:24 AM
3

Yes. The world would be an entirely different place if not for the gender libido imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:57 AM
20

Consider that 50% of marriages end in divorce. Plus 20% are sexless marriages. So it seems healthy LTRs are quite rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:00 PM
0

The main reason so many husbands cheat on their wives is sexless marriage. So long as you aren’t low libido and don’t lose sexual interest in your husband, the chances of him cheating are incredibly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:34 AM
1

Man here. I’ve never had a single low libido moment in my life. The day of my vasectomy, with massive swelling from surgery, I was DTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 12:51 AM
1

Sure what’s the big deal? Most things in life evolve towards greater convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:21 AM
1

As a normal man with a normal libido, my dating experience was way worse than yours. Lucky you I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:42 PM
8

I don’t typically see mismatch where the guy is hotter. It’s always a hot woman with an ugly man. And my 2 thoughts are he must be rich and he ain’t getting any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:38 AM
0

Men have a higher sex drive. So during a relationship, the guy is more likely to pursue sex outside that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:38 PM
1

I think men most want sex, but in return are willing to “be a provider.” I think women want a provider, but in return are willing to have sex. These key fundamentals of this economy still exist, giving me hope for our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 06:14 PM
1

I have zero sympathy for a man who permits his marriage to become a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:41 PM
0

We don’t care about N count. I’d much rather my son marry a sex positive woman with a high N count, versus a woman with sexual hang ups that result in a dead bedroom (which naturally leads to divorce).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:39 AM
1

Well since I already have regular sex, my answer is 0%. But if I weren’t having regular sex, then 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:48 AM
1

So long as my wife and I have a normal active sex life, I have zero interest in casual sex elsewhere. But if my wife lost interest, I’d be dating within a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:44 AM
1

Loud mouthed incels who don’t know any better. Trust me normal men LOVE women who enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:31 PM
2

Ridiculous. There have been dozens and dozens and dozens of scientific studies done on this subject and every single one of these has concluded that (on average) men’s sexual drive far exceeds women’s. I have never seen a single legit scientific study say the opposite. Sorry but You are just plain wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:12 AM
1

She’s NOT shamed by men. Men love women who have lots of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:07 AM
2

In other news, water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:50 AM
1

Where is the deceit in immediately walking away from the No to find the Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:27 AM
1

Of course he will leave No-girl alone! Why would a man waste time “pressuring” an uninterested woman when there is a Yes-girl right over there?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:50 AM
1

No means she is the wrong woman and he needs to move on to a different woman who is receptive to his “pressure”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:36 AM
0

Women are responsive desire which means a baseline of having zero sexual interest. It takes the actions of a horny man to elicit her desire in response to his stimulation. Google this is you are confused. What you call “man pressuring woman for sex” is literally the only way our species survives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:02 AM
2

Simply break up with guys who want sex more frequently than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:53 AM
1

Ok fine whatever. It’s more an integrity question vs morality. Not a big deal to take 12 seconds (as a 1 time thing) to inform the sexless wife their marriage is open. But hey if that’s too hard for you whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:10 PM
1

No they aren’t!!! A wife has bodily autonomous and can refuse sex all she wants. The husband however need not live without sex, his recourse is to pack her bags or to declare the marriage open.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:07 PM
1

The rules now are that a real man doesn’t stay celibate in a sexless marriage and he is man enough to be honest that he’s getting his sex elsewhere. This isn’t a debate or a negotiation, it takes him 12 seconds to declare to his sexless wife the marriage is now open. A weak dishonest man cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:44 PM
1

Right. Don’t own a dog if you are opposed to going for walks. Don’t have plants if you hate watering. Regular sex is table stakes for being in a monogamous relationship with a hetero man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:37 PM
1

I despise cheating. Society also hates a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:15 PM
2

Your overly strict definition of “wanting” to do something is going to cause problems in a long term relationship. Do I “want” to hear about my wife’s latest work-drama story? To be honest I would rather watch SportsCenter. But I do it because I love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:51 AM
1

Foreplay is an abstract concept that is unique from woman to woman and no man could ever consistently get this right with zero input from her. Sadly I think you are destined to a life of sexual frustration. Use your words! Don’t women LOVE to talk? You are now the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:44 AM
3

Get over that. Ask for what you want/need. Too many women just expect men to read their minds. Maybe this is why my marriage has lasted 20+ years. We communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:34 AM
2

We’ve got some kinky stuff and toys that help balance out otherwise incompatible pace. If a woman isn’t getting the foreplay she needs, I say it’s equally on her to inform her clueless dude. He will catch on, if he wants more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:30 AM
5

She would tell me if she weren’t fine. She orgasms. She enjoys our sex. My hope is most wives are like mine with highly responsive libido. Rarely ever think of sex, and when presented with the idea her initial thought is No!!! But if we go slow, she usually warms up and soon is 100% into it. Also we have a regular sex schedule, same 2 days every week. It helps us both; for different reasons. She can anticipate sex instead of wondering will I initiate tonite?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:21 AM
7

Men cheat to fill in the gap. This is how it’s been for millennia. In my own case, my lower libido wife is fine having lots more sex than she would otherwise (biologically) want. I think most wives in lasting marriages do this, to keep the peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:09 AM
0

Yeah I agree but those “denied” women are an aggressive bunch who INSIST that female sex drive is equal to men’s. Any post on DB which even hints that maybe just maybe men have a greater thirst ... gets trashed and sometimes even deleted by the woke mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:05 AM
0

Agreed. Imagine a relationship where your partner wants to fuck twice per day every day, and not have to “talk” in between fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:44 AM
2

Start posting over on DB and all those supposed HLFs with supposed LLMs will down vote and ban you into oblivion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:32 AM
13

Option 2 then is sexless wife gives husband a hall pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:28 AM
2

Agree that low drive men are quite rare, but just go to /r/DeadBedrooms and read about all the HLF with a so called LLM. Find one of those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:26 AM
14

Easily solved: woman immediately breaks up with a man she no longer desires sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:15 AM
5

I certainly hope you advise such friends to immediately leave any man they don’t want sex with. If you are concerned about declining sex drive, only date low drive men: there are men who literally never want sex, just find such a guy and never worry about unwanted sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:12 AM
7

You are saying that “no man is entitled to sex” which of course is true. A woman or wife is free to reject sex at any time. Also true is that a woman who does not want sex is not “entitled” to fidelity or to a continued relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:09 AM
0

In college, most girls have exactly as much sex as they want. Whether than means once per semester, once per week, or 4 times per day with different guys, all the sex any college girl wants she will get. For guys, the Top 20% are having 80% of the sex, bottom 80% get the remaining 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:14 AM
3

Splitting marital assets is fine. Stealing income from an ex spouse via spousal support aka alimony is not at all fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:49 AM
2

Maybe this will help you understand: without sex, men feel UN-loved in a relationship. Sex is possible without a relationship. A relationship is NOT possible without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 12:19 AM
1

You’re not disproven that men feel love through sex. You’ve simply proven that men have higher libido than women, meaning that men want/need sex regardless of relationship status. Well done, next prove that water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 12:06 AM
5

I’m a big fan of sex toys. What’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:01 PM
2

If (god forbid) I do wind up divorcing, well there are 3.5 billion other women on the planet so I’ll probably be just fine, and probably have these same benefits again (remarried or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:03 PM
1

I think most men would be sufficiently happy just to have a female partner who desires them. And by having regular sex with this one partner, any other qualities like objective attractiveness and broad sexual desirability are not essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:01 PM
2

No way. Sex is a need, like food water shelter and sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:54 PM
19

Married man here, can confirm all the benefits listed above ^
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:35 AM
2

No. Prostitution should be legal everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 02:38 AM
1

Just follow these simple rules: 1. Be attractive. 2. Don’t be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:13 PM
2

Women who abstain don’t have dating issues because they don’t get any dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:12 AM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:11 AM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:10 AM
2

A handful of idiots who make lots of noise but don’t represent “men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:27 PM
1

Him wearing a condom counts as YOUR effort? Also this thread is about marital sex: is pregnancy such a great risk that you still consider this counts as your side of the effort equation? Also: enthusiasm DURING sex is not the kind of “effort” that you posted about here Men put in effort and then stop
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:58 PM
1

The very fact that sex is contingent upon effort from men, but zero effort from women, is a core part of this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:42 PM
1

Most women have passive form of sex drive known as “responsive desire”. Over time, a woman’s “response” to the same stimuli (meaning the same man with same looks and same game) goes down. This is the phenomenon of conditioning which applies to much of human psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:29 PM
4

No: men don’t care about virginity or N count. Men like women who like sex. Most men simply want a women who is non-fat, sex positive, and low drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:21 PM
1

I agree that an uninterested partner should not have sex. But if sex is off the table, then so too must monogamy be off the table. A relationship can have both, or neither. To be clear, I’m not talking about the normal situation where one might be uninterested on any given day. I’m talking about sustained periods of sexless ness or disinterest, for example when one spouse (typically a wife/mother) chooses to put all their efforts into parenting, and is consistently “too tired” for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:15 AM
1

Maybe then, in addition to your suggestion to “take sex off the table for a long time” such couples should also take monogamy off the table. This would eliminate any chance the woman is having painful sex (including all of the thousand other forms of physical intimacy).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 08:55 PM
0

Why are you so focused on some bizarre extreme case of permanent genital mutilation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 07:37 PM
-1

I think your definition of sex is unnecessarily limited. Also I’m not talking about the first few weeks post partum, I’m talking about your statement to take sex off the table for a long time. That’s not a good plan, it risks the baby having divorced parents, and there is no legit reason to suggest that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 07:07 PM
-6

What’s best for a new born is to have parents that stay (happily, monogamously) married. And putting ALL forms of “sex off the table for a long time” is a formula for trouble and frankly I have a hard time imaging any scenario where zero physical intimacy was possible without pain. Again this sounds like a case of different priorities which comes from choices and comes with consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 06:24 PM
-3

To an extent this makes sense. But the extent that you choose not to prioritize your spousal relationship (sex) well as with all things in life there are consequences of our choices. Looking at you, SuperMoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:55 PM
0

We chose how to spend our time and energy. Unless you consider yourself a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:50 PM
1

Women just have much lower sex drives: sex isn’t worth paying for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 11:59 AM
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What’s wrong with just the basic fact average man NEEDS sex in a way that average woman does not? Contrary to feminist beliefs, not everything is equal by gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 11:57 AM
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Plus, of course, bald or not, must be Top 13% height = over 6 feet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 11:45 AM
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Men need sex, not relationships. If a relationship gets sex, then I’ll take both. But men don’t need relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 12:38 AM
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Yes because men NEED sex while most women don’t (sex is just a “want”)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 12:05 AM
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Married men cheat because their wives lose interest in sex (with husband) after a few years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:36 AM
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Instantly it would mean no more Incels, only Volcels. Because any man who wants sex, but can’t otherwise “get” sex, can simply purchase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:01 PM
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Physical attraction and sexual needs are pretty low on most women’s priority list for a husband. Which means the very definition of “satisfied” is also different for women, again sexual needs are low on the list. So, to answer the subject question: Yes (woman can be satisfied).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:57 PM
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Legalized prostitution would be a good move.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 04:57 AM
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I’m not currently doing anything to get sex, and it’s not something that I really crave And HERE we have the fundamental difference between genders. Mars vs Venus is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:10 PM
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Men can’t act like women when it comes to dating. We have a much stronger sex drive and this compels us to act like idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:23 AM
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You are fortunate to have little to zero sex drive. What a luxury that must be when it comes to dating!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:19 AM
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Don’t conflate a woman’s attraction with a man’s attractiveness. Monogamy (or rather the fact monogamy cooccurs only in longer term relationships) indeed causes women to lose attraction (for her man). But objectively the man’s attractiveness remains same or might even increase. I certainly don’t take it personally that my wife is less attracted to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:38 PM
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No dissonance here. Any man who “who wants a virgin” deserves his crappy sex life. Dunno how you pulled that tangential reply from my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:00 PM
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Women like sex. Women have no sex drive. Because both of these statements are true, the burden of making sex happen falls entirely onto men. Can you see how that can get exhausting?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:56 PM
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Even though men SAY they don’t like sluts I don’t hear men say that. I hear other women saying that. Most men LOVE sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:46 PM
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Male here. It’s like breathing. Right after inhaling, I’m good ... for a few seconds or so. But then this urge to breathe again builds up until I literally MUST breath or I will perish. I’d say 98% of my days on earth past 40 years have involved sex or masturbation. The other 2% was some medical or logistical blocker which prevented me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 08:56 AM
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Nobody cares about N count
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:31 PM
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Sex IS a need for men. Men pay for sex all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:35 AM
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That DB forum is the only place on planet earth where women gather to complain about sexual rejection. Do not mistake that as any reflection on society as a whole. Every other place on earth (including every other Reddit forum) when it comes to sexual interest or rejection there are 20 guys for every girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:26 AM
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I don’t resent you (women, as a gender) for having such a low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 07:56 AM
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In a sexless marriage, cheating need not lead to divorce. Only if the abnormal no libido is hypocritical and unloving would that happen. “Sex is not important (hence we are not having any) but I will divorce if you do that unimportant thing with anyone else”. Such a person is in no position to vote on how the normal libido solves the problem which they created.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 11:45 AM
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There are lots of toys that can penetrate better than any working dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 11:12 AM
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ED does not mean sexless. There are a hundred ways to work around ED and still have a sexually active marriage. If a man with ED chooses to be sexless, then of course is wife should be expected to have sex elsewhere. No spouse should have unwanted celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:26 AM
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Why would getting “caught” lead to divorce though? It’s just sex and we know that’s not important in a sexless marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:21 AM
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Sexless marriage is equally bad. Having sex elsewhere is a completely reasonable answer to having your spouse decide they no longer want much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 03:49 AM
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Divorce is inconvenient and expensive (kids, house, etc) so it’s better to just meet those needs elsewhere. Problem solved, marriage saved, no divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 03:44 AM
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By your logic, infidelity is NOT the ultimate cause. It’s the sexless wife’s hypocritical inability to accept the infidelity which causes divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:30 PM
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This isn’t a new idea. Plenty of DB members have done this, thereby saving their sexless marriage from certain divorce. The LL does not get to vote on this so who cares what they argue?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:26 PM
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If it wasn’t a negotiated sexless marriage, why would opening it need negotiation? At most he should declare it open.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 05:30 PM
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Very very few married men with a good sex life cheat. Conversely, almost 100% of men in sexless marriages will cheat or divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 05:29 PM
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But WHY would he divorce? He is getting his sexual needs met elsewhere. His sexless wife is also happy with no sex. If SHE wanted to divorce then she already would have done so. Again: why ruin this happy marriage with a divorce? Especially over something unimportant like sex (if that were important t the married couple would be having it)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 05:20 PM
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Those are exactly the marriages (sex declined) where infidelity most likely occurs. You are validating my point. If you don’t want to accept the risk that loss of libido would lead to Infidelity, do not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 05:17 PM
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If one party isn’t will to leave, it is NOT on the other party who may be equally unwilling to leave. A sexless marriage is an equal betrayal of the relationship. You cannot hold fidelity as sacred while claiming that intimacy is optional. Either BOTH are very important, or NEITHER can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 05:15 PM
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Marriage is also supposed to be a sexual relationship. A sexless marriage therefore has different rules. This broken state precedes the so called cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 05:01 PM
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If you’re not happy with your partner to not have sex, then leave them: divorce. A sexless marriage obviously sex is unimportant so infidelity can not be any big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 04:59 PM
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One should get divorced first if you don’t want sex AND object to your partner having sex elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 04:10 PM
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If you are fine being married with no sex then why is infidelity even a big deal? Who cares if he does that unimportant thing (sex) with another woman? It is hypocritical to say sex is unimportant ... but then shriek about his infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 03:42 PM
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It’s hypocritical to divorce over something unimportant like infidelity in a sexless marriage. If sex were so darned important, then you would be having it together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 03:40 PM
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Very few men chose porn over a willing female partner. An uninterested wife is responsible for most porn use.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 03:37 PM
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Then you agree that his infidelity is not actually the cause for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 03:35 PM
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Right she would stay sexlessly for a very long time. But then her SHOCK when he gets caught “cheating” is what inspires her to divorce, and in her mind his infidelity is to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 03:34 PM
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Sexless marriage isn’t even a choice. Pretty bogus survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:38 PM
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You cannot trust a paper which cites infidelity as the cause of divorce but does not bother to determine if the married couple was actually having sex with one another. In other words, sexless marriage is quite likely the cause of those divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:38 PM
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You left out the key ingredient of these divorces: the sexless spiral. Goes like this: wife loses interest, sex declines, husband pulls away and (filled with testosterone) acts unattractive, leads to even less sex, repeat cycle, crash and burn. I tell you sexless marriage is like 90% of the reason for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:30 PM
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If men and women had anything even remotely close to similar sex drives there would be no colored Pills and people here would not speak about “male thirst”. Sad that you refuse to acknowledge this basic biological truth that is at the core of most male/female relationship difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 03:23 PM
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The good ones rely on credible scientific methods and are peer reviewed. Guess what THOSE show? The same story! Because it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 02:57 PM
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There are countless research based studies on this topic. The common stereotype is absolutely true. Just do some basic googling on female libido vs male. Married men are far FAR more often the rejected partner. In my friend group 10 out of 10 men want sex more than wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:03 PM
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Then you’ve not tried it. So I guess we will never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:48 AM
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That forum is literally the only place on planet earth where women complain about an unwilling male partner. Women are over represented in dead bedrooms by a factor of 10 versus the general population. Any place other than dead bedrooms if you hear a wife discuss sex it’s to complain that her husband wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:46 AM
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Contact Shawn Mendez and suggest having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 03:42 AM
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Legalized prostitution and improvements in sex robots would solve the “female as sexual gatekeeper” problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 12:59 PM
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Most married men who cheat do so because of infrequent sex caused by an uninterested wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:28 AM
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85% of American men are undateable based on just this one criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:59 AM
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Even while bottoming, Chad still Chading
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:31 PM
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So you are a RedPill advocate?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:49 AM
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I’m still a virgin. This is going to cause some big challenges when you date men. Be upfront about this and maybe still to highly religious low libido men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:47 AM
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Thank you for listing even more things that women need which men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:05 AM
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Q: Why don’t men need tampons? A: Men and women have some different needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:50 AM
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It’s like oxygen: those who aren’t lacking appear not to think about it at all. But if you aren’t getting it then it becomes life or death.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:46 AM
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No I’m talking about SEX which is a true legit need for normal healthy men. I realize this may not be true for most women: in fact this difference is the root of most gender issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:35 AM
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I agree with everything you said EXCEPT “sex is not a need”. Sex is absolutely 100% a need for any normal healthy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:24 PM
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Sex most certainly IS a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:29 AM
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Older dad here. Kids don’t make you fat. Kids don’t make you stop taking care of self. Know what kids need? A parent who is healthy and a good example for diet and exercise. I’m still running sub 3 hour marathons. Just don’t lose yourself upon becoming a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:19 PM
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Let me guess: his marriage is sexless, his wife lost her libido
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:05 PM
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What is his height
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:04 PM
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No girl be walking out of the bedroom in the middle of sex due to Chad’s penis size. And Chad does not need FWB he can get a new girl each week. What kind of reputation are you even talking about? Nobody is comparing notes on penis size. You seem to have insecurities in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:50 PM
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On Tinder profile, micro dick Chad appears 100% equal to big dick Chad. Both get same swipes Right. Are you getting this? Initial external appearances are all that matters to be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:29 PM
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You miss the main point of being Chad. It’s 100% external appearances. Chad might be a total asshole who can’t speak English and sucks in bed with ED and a 3” micro penis ... does not matter he still gets laid with zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:19 PM
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dick size isn’t part of the Chad equation. Chad’s entire appeal is all about external (visible) characteristics: he’s already N count +1 before dick size even shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:06 AM
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They smell nice and (most of them) are absurdly kind, generous people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:28 AM
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Perfectly matched female sex drives: every 7 weeks or so (if the stars align, otherwise no worries next month is Ok too)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:27 PM
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As a general rule, most men want sex. And if a man is chatting you up, asking you out, assume that he wants sex with YOU. Seems like you already understand this concept? So here is an easy solution to your complaint. If you don’t want sex with one of these guys, tell him No/block him/ignore him/stay away from him. Problem solved, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:21 PM
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You are an anomaly though. Just Read this forum. All those posts about “male thirst”? That is the male sex DRIVE. Few women have a DRIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:39 PM
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You are but 1 data point. I’m happy for you and for your boyfriend. You are NOT the average woman. Very few men ever get to experience what your boyfriend apparently gets: a female sex DRIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:30 PM
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Top 5% men maybe have felt actual female DRIVE, assuming it falls on the right 2 or 3 days per month for her, and only in early relationship. The rest of us men stay busy trying to get her responsive desire to respond. I get plenty of sex by the way. It’s just takes a metric TON of work (on my part) to elicit any shred of responsive desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:18 PM
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That’s correct. Few men ever have. Because it’s such a rare event. Thanks for confirming my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:03 PM
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As long as SHE is able to reliably get herself off, and SHE communicates how she needs it, and SHE also remains invested in her own orgasm .... then I agree: selfish male lovers deserve nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:50 PM
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Man here. Women need an actual sex DRIVE. That responsive desire thing is soooo passive, tedious, and dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:36 PM
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Irrelevant to this thread... but that is an amusing story about an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:27 PM
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Agree 100%. These are platonic room mate sexless marriages. Nothing wrong with a sexless wife wanting to “stay together for the kids” that is a legit choice. But that ONLY works when the man get his sexual needs met elsewhere. This is exactly my point. The husband must declare their marriage open in order to prevent divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 02:41 PM
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The sexless wife has unilaterally decided that sex isn’t important to their marriage. She can’t force him to comply with celibacy. So it is no big deal when the husband goes and does that unimportant thing with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:58 AM
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The only unhappiness is lack of sex. But that’s easily solved (by outsourcing) and allows the happy marriage to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:47 AM
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But a sexless wife would never stay married to a man baby whom she resents, is a terrible partner, doesn’t pull his weight around the house, and she does not want to fuck. The sexless wife would obviously divorce that jerk face lazy azzhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:13 AM
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Yep, dishes and vacuuming gets ALL the panties wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:55 AM
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Sexless wives are cowards who should divorce their husband (whom they don’t even love or want sex with) but instead they stay sexlessly married and enjoy the convenience of marriage. If the wife is entitled to stay married (for whatever reason) then so is the husband (for whatever reason). His sex on the side is what enables the sexless wife to retain her sexless marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:51 AM
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A sexless wife COULD spontaneously resume a normal active sex life, thereby avoiding divorce. But that kind of “hit the lottery” event is not within the husband’s power so he needs a different strategy. Hence, opening the marriage is the only way HE can avoid divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:43 AM
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A woman “pursues” by reading through her 2000 messages from dirt ball creeps per day, most of those from 3 states away, or 75 years old, or a bunch of disgusting dick pics. All this nasty business takes time and effort!!! And then she finally finds a non-creepy guy and he promptly ghosts her. Then after 7 minutes of this tedious screening process most women just get bored, forget all about sex, and return to scrolling Reddit /r/earthporn. Their libido is too low even to weed out their overflowin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:20 AM
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Who said anything about not wanting to be married? If the marriage were so bad, surely the sexless wife would divorce. All that’s missing from this perfect marriage is sex, and that can easily be outsourced.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 02:21 AM
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In theory, sure. Any wife COULD do better than a man. But she won’t. Few women actually take any proactive steps to go out and pursue sex. Especially a sexless wife. Just not enough libido for her to bother. But the horny man? Will always find sex, no matter how much more effort it might be. Man’s higher libido will ensure that he gets way more sex than she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 02:17 AM
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Yes but those men are getting sex someplace! (And it is not self love in the power room). Surely you agree an uninterested wife shouldn't have unwanted sex? Surely you agree he should not manipulate her into sex she does not want? WELL there is but one possible way to prevent divorce: their marriage is open.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:53 PM
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That route works for a few weeks or months at most. But that’s not a sustainable cure for sexless marriage. Guess again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:55 PM
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That’s exactly what makes him a cheater! And I agree it’s wrong of him to skip this step. Having said that, it is disingenuous of you to claim a sexless wife is uninformed: clearly she knows she is not having sex, so what other possibility is there besides he’s getting that elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:16 PM
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Here is another way of seeing that. A wife is never obligated to have sex... even with her husband. Agreed? But consider the VERY common case of a persistent sexless marriage. Just as the wife is not obligated to have sex, a husband is not obligated to be celibate. He simply declares the marriage open, and then finds a woman who is interested in sex with him. I would never condone cheating but this is not cheating: open marriage is a lifestyle choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:34 PM
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Marriage is (by definition) a chronic case of oneitis. In terms of male sexual strategy (where novelty reigns supreme) this presents a considerable challenge! RP (correctly) calls oneitis a disease to be avoided at all costs: if Girl 1 is not interested, quickly move on to Girl 2. Makes perfect sense in a dating context, agree? But marital bonds (by design) makes it not-so-quick and rather expensive to just "move on." Along with oneitis, marriage (usually) comes with expectation of sexual fideli…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:21 PM
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Legalized prostitution makes an absolute ton of sense here. I don’t think the government needs to be involved but should just get out of the way and let the sex market sort itself out. Men benefit from a more efficient direct way of dealing with our perpetual horniness. Women benefit from no longer being surrounded by a sea of unwanted erect dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 10:31 AM
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Women are (mostly) responsive desire. A large component of that is novelty based. After being together for some time, that becomes an increasingly lower “response” because of conditioning to the same inputs from ... the same guy. But bring in a different guy and she would again respond. Men, don’t take it personally if your partner has lost interest. Simply move right on to a new partner, and suddenly you become the exciting new guy who elicits desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 10:40 PM
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A more accurate title would be: Spontaneous desire people need sex to thrive, responsive desire people do not. Notice mine is not a gendered statement at all. Yes it is true that most men are spontaneous / most women are responsive, so I can see how you might combine these into the title statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 01:11 PM
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There are a handful of fringe lunatics who care about virginity or N counts and make lots of noise. But normal people (men and women) are like whatever so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:53 AM
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I am an average looking male. I have a million other things going for me (education, income, status, pedigree, accomplishments, etc) which make me a lot higher value “on paper” but in regard to pure looks alone ... I get the exact same amount of female attention as all average looking men: about zero. Like most men, any attention I do get comes as a result of actions initiated by me. Therefore when a woman DOES (unprompted) take notice, Yes I certainly do value this highly. I suspect 98% of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:08 PM
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