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When you were in college and you slept with an 18 year old, were you arrested for pedophilia? Did your employer get arrested for child labor violations? Were you arrested for driving a car while underage since there’s literally no difference between an 18 year old and a 5 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:09 PM
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So removing all their power and allowing politicians to safely ignore their voices in favor of exploiting them in ways that benefit older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:48 PM
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Because they’re irresponsible and unable to make proper decisions about costs and benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:33 PM
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A 30 year old with no parental supervision and an established credit history? Much more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:27 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. Should the minimum age to attend university, vote, or join the military be 30 so tomorrow’s 30 year olds can have just as little life experience as today’s 18 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:20 PM
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So you think the solution to young people being exploited is to remove their ability to vote and place all political power in the hands of an even older demographic than now? And that young people should be locked out of education and employment that would allow them to secure better futures for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:50 PM
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For the ones who disagree with any of these morally, what do they think the appropriate age is for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:31 PM
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Not old enough to date someone older, but old enough to join the military and kill someone older. Also old enough to incur six-figure debt for a university degree, and vote for political leadership at all levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:17 PM
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You’re allowed to drink at 18 in a lot of places that aren’t the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:15 PM
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This is an entirely cultural thing. Incestuous relationships are already the norm in much of the muslim world. In Pakistan it’s actually considered weird if you don’t marry a blood relative, as 65% of their marriages are between first cousins.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:46 PM
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Why aren’t men responsible for how they choose to have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:40 AM
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I only highlighted two really famous ones off I knew off the top of my head. There are lots more. Allen Iverson was like 5’10”. I don’t think you know how biology works, dude. Short parents have tall kids all the time. Short moms especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:36 AM
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A fair amount. Muggsy Bogues was 5’3” and he was good enough to be in the first Space Jam movie. Isaiah Thomas was one of the greatest players of all time, and he was 5’9”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:23 AM
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What should men do to be strong, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:04 PM
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Then why would they be “posting about their amazing situationships”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:52 PM
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Who expects exclusivity in a ‘situationship’? That’s what a relationship is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:41 PM
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To paraphrase a certain former president, “if you vote conservative you ain’t a woman”, right OP? This totally isn’t islamophobia or any other sort of religious discrimination though, since that sort of thing would be ‘punching down against marginalized people’. Everyone knows all those women in hijabs and other religious wear in all the commercials and on all the posters are as liberal as you can get. Latinas also famously never hold conservative beliefs or date conservative men ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:02 AM
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Most people stick with their middle school and high school mindsets their whole lives without ever really maturing. Unless they have to change their behavior and lifestyle be more mature, they won’t, and most people never have to. It’s strange that you presumably live in America and are exposed to political talking heads every day spouting elementary school level nonsense, yet you think age somehow makes people more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:23 AM
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I’d say it’s extremely strange that women get offended by men not caring about what a woman’s job is the same way they don’t care about what her race is, but we know women care far more than men do about what race their partner is just as much as what his job is. Society pushes men to be tolerant of women and women to be intolerant of men. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that men have fewer filters than women, and that a woman’s job isn’t a factor in their attraction to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:23 PM
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The level of hatred the OP must have for international relationships probably puts Trump to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:23 PM
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Why exactly isn’t it reasonable to do the only things he can do to avoid the situation if the woman refuses to do anything she can do to avoid the situation? Explain that point in detail, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:52 PM
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What examples do you have of men married to millionaire wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:06 PM
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Let’s go through the stages: No birth control pills, injection, implant, IUD, whatever before the act No condom during the act No morning after pill after the act No abortion way after the act Multiple choices over an extremely large window of time led her to where she is as a single mother. She chose to have an elective and dangerous pregnancy knowing the situation she was in and the options available to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:00 PM
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It’s this one user who’s still allowed to troll here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:51 PM
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That’s something they actively chose to do though, usually against the will of the guy unfortunate enough to sleep with a woman who managed to have a baby out of wedlock despite every birth control method in the world before and after conception being available to her. They were entirely in control of their fate every step of the way. All the guy could do is sit back and watch helplessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:47 PM
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Yes, but he still married her after finding out she was a commoner without needing to have the laws changed by the head of the kingdom. Fictional stories aside, that's how it works in the real world. Diana was able to become a princess by marrying prince Charles, but princesses Sayako and Mako of Japan had to give up their royal titles and become commoners for marrying regular guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:54 PM
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He had guards literally trying to murder him for most of the movie, and was only able to meet her and hold her interest by pretending to be a prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:28 PM
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The moral of the story is the poor peasant girl gets a very real chance to marry the prince and become royalty just like the upper class ladies, but the poor peasant boy gets to die alone in the mud.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:19 PM
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In Canada there's an actual rape culture of organized human traffickers who view it as a way of life. However, people (mostly women) defend these men and oppose real punishments for them because they're not white. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/north-prestons-finest-gang-edward-downey-taliyah-marsman-1.3688239 https://www.ctvnews.ca/windsor/article/police-say-gangs-involved-in-alleged-sex-trafficking-ring/ The gang is called 'North Preston's Finest', based out of a town called North Pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:55 PM
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Random bears have been attacking people in Japan all year long, to the point they've deployed the military to stop them. If you think the average man is worse than the average bear you're too far gone and there's no reason for any normal man to interact with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:45 PM
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You can have lots of standards without needing to speak like a drunk frat boy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:44 PM
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Your problem is hanging around men who call people sluts. They tend to end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:27 PM
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How many times have you been arrested for pimping, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:36 PM
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What else have I shown you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:14 PM
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“The old people in my life are acting like old people. Somehow this is the fault of all men everywhere”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:03 AM
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I've been saying from the start that if this was a male driver uploading video of a drunk woman with her pants off there would be no question that he would be in the wrong. This woman not only uploaded pictures of this guy, she made sure she showed his house and street address. She was 100% in the wrong from her own video alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:29 PM
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I think she’s just one of those women that likes to perpetuate the Madonna/whore complex. Her mind follows Victorian English morality where there are ‘good people’ who don’t want sex and whose relationships are ‘pure’, and ‘bad people’ who are prostitutes and johns because they have sex. It’s very likely that she’s from an extremely religious environment where this type of thinking is still common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:49 PM
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Her stance is ‘any man who wants sex from his partner is an evil playboy who’s only out for a hookup and literally nothing else. If a guy wants a relationship he should only expect a sexless one’. The idea that guys want to sleep with their long-term partners just like they would a short term partner is completely alien to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:45 PM
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As I’ve said many times before, OP, just get an arranged marriage already. Then we can stop seeing your Victorian-era “any man who wants to sleep with his partner is just out for sex and literally nothing else” views blasted all over this subreddit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:21 PM
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Jesus, just get an arranged marriage already and stop spamming this same Victorian-era nonsense over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:18 PM
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Why did you need an SVU episode to realize this, OP? Just look at the recent ‘DoorDash girl’ video as a real life example. A drunk guy is passed out with his pants down in front of an open door and he got a video of him, his name, and his house that included his address broadcast all over the internet labeling him as a ‘sexual assaulter’ because a woman came across his open door. People are actually defending her and claiming she’s in the right. Can you imagine what would happen if the sexes wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:18 PM
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You can wear a bikini to a beach or public pool though, right? A man wearing a speedo to either of those places in North America has a real possibility of having the cops called on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:39 PM
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In the gym there’s no stigma. At the beach or a public pool though there’s a clear line men aren’t allowed to cross without making people (mainly women) uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:34 PM
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Women can work too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:30 PM
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Married men who want to cheat have to pay sex workers. Women who want to cheat simply have to go to any guy they know would be down to sleep with them, or go to a bar, or make a tinder profile, or even become a sex worker for the night and make money cheating. When they get STDs and infect their husbands they can just say it’s because the husband is cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:02 PM
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How much of that sex is rape though, OP? Or coercion? Or prostitution? I don’t see Brazilian women being overly sexually open or aggressive towards men from other cultures, especially the cultures that don’t slut shame, so it’s probably not related to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:40 PM
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OP, is it a man’s fault if he’s only attracted to a small subset of women? Or should all of society launch coordinated social engineering campaigns to get that man to think all women are equally beautiful and he’s wrong for only being attracted to that small subset?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:50 PM
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Women operate under the assumption that you're an uncontrollable rape monster who will act like Pepe Le Pew and be constantly sexually harassing them at all times. That's who they have in mind when they say they 'make it obvious'. They assume that just not actively shutting you down is a clear sign of interest that you should take as a cue to hit on them. If you're just a regular guy who can control yourself and needs a woman to show active interest before you do anything that will get you blast…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:08 PM
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OP, have you never slept with any woman more attractive than your partner? Not in high school, not in college, not in your 20s, never? If she's not the most physically attractive person you've been with, why are you worried about being the most physically attractive she's ever been with? Everyone had a life before they met their long term partner. The past is the past and doesn't matter in the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:15 PM
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What she needed to truly connect with the American people was an even bigger ‘squad’ of muslim women attacking core American values. Just like how Hilary Clinton definitely achieved great success by having an old muslim man and his wife in traditional foreign clothing wagging his finger at people during an election campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:43 PM
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OP, what goes through your mind when you see teen movies with all the nerds pining after the hot cheerleaders and not any of the other less attractive girls? Do you think it’s an unrealistic fantasy? Or a good demonstration of what should happen under ideal conditions? When companies put ‘real women’ in ads, do you feel it’s wrong because it will clearly harm the successful marketing of the product to men who are simply attracted to who they’re attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:29 AM
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You hear that, men? Fuck all the guys you want safe in the knowledge the women you date in the future can’t judge you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:11 AM
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The tone of this comment is really strange for someone agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:09 PM
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Sure they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:51 PM
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Ah yes, addressing your attempted derail head on is totally a distraction. Since women’s complaints about their romantic relationships are obviously indicative of them staying to fix the relationship, that totally means their complaints about their platonic friendships are also indicative of them trying to fix those.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:08 PM
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Are women in romantic relationships with their female friends they also complain about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:51 PM
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How is any of that relevant to this discussion? The simple fact of the matter is that women have endless options available to them at a moment’s notice and no incentive to stick around in any relationship that isn’t easy, so they don’t. They literally sing songs about it with lyrics saying things like “I could have another you in a minute”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:30 PM
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No, I’m one of those guys that’s dated enough women to know ‘in sickness and in health’ only exists after marriage, maybe. Boyfriends are fair weather relationships only.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:56 PM
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Sure, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:49 PM
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‘Whataboutism’ applies to derailing from collective action. It doesn’t apply to individuals in their personal lives. As I said before, guys these days have simply adopted the behaviors that women have always displayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:43 PM
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As opposed to women, who are famous for sticking around to solve problems in a relationship instead of immediately cutting ties and finding another guy, right? Guys these days are simply mirroring the behavior they’ve always been on the receiving end of from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:58 AM
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Skyrim is a single player game that people play in private. It harms nobody. Why are adult mods relevant? There’s a mod that turns all the dragons into Thomas the Tank Engine. Is that harmful to the train industry too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:57 PM
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Work in an office with older women. The shit they get away with is only possible because HR departments are staffed exclusively by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:09 PM
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I wonder which one is more accurate, all the women in real life pursuing casual sex because they get something out of it, or some flawed study pushing an agenda? Published in India of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:22 PM
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Where did I say anyone should be fine with it? The only thing I’ve said all along is that you already know the answers to that question when it’s men being expected to pursue women with princess syndrome, so you pretending you don’t know the answers and can’t apply them to women being expected to pursue men with prince syndrome is very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:21 PM
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Why does any woman have sex with any man then if they don’t orgasm? It’s obvious that the women seeking casual sex are the ones who don’t have trouble orgasming from it, so that question didn’t even need to be asked. The dating question is the real mystery here, as the OP already knows why she expects men to put in effort pursuing women who just show up and receive princess treatment. All she needs to do is apply those same answers to women who date men who just show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:52 PM
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I thought age gap relationships with adults 18-28 were basically pedophilia these days. Why should men 18-28 worry about competition from older men who are obviously all abusive pedophile groomers? Are the women 18-28 allowing those men to compete with the men their age?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:41 PM
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So you’re just actively trying to avoid finding any actual answers. As I said before, you as a woman already know the answers to why you think men should date women who hold the attitude that they are the prize and only need to show up to be wooed by men. The fact that you won’t apply those same answers to the question of why women should date men with that attitude says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:36 PM
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It’s not though. As I said, that attitude has always been held by women, yet men date them anyway. Ask yourself why men date women with that attitude and you’ll have your answer as to why women should date men with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:26 PM
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I genuinely can’t tell if you’re referring to men or women in this sentence, because that attitude has always been held by women: Then I asked a question recently about paying on dates, and i got enough answers that showed that men don't really enjoy dating women, they come with an attitude that "i spend a lot of effort on myself while you did nothing so i can spare time if you throw yourself at me but no more than than".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:17 PM
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Why should men treat you like a princess? Why should anyone treat the people they’re attracted to like they’re actually attracted to them? The most successful relationships are the ones where both partners treat each other like a resentful old married boomer couple, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:14 PM
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When a guy sends a dick pic girls share it too. How is that not a sign that boys are just like girls when it comes to that issue? Women will also SA guys they’re attracted to, but the difference is that nobody will ever hold them accountable for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:17 PM
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How much food did your salary buy 10 years ago vs a week ago? What level of car could you afford ten years ago vs this year? How much house could you buy back then vs now? Answer those questions and you’ll have the answer to the question you asked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:17 AM
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Shouldn’t you be picking potatoes for your landlord? How do you have time to post here when you need to work three jobs to make rent on your 200 square foot shared basement?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:15 AM
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The complete avoidance of my question is all the answer I needed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:10 AM
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How much money have you personally made while you’re busy simping for the people who are making money off you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:08 AM
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I’ve never seen someone simp this hard to turn himself into a medieval peasant who’s forced to suck up to a king that has all the money and power. In your own country, where is all that growth going? Is it being distributed fairly among the population? Or is it all going to the 1% while the rest of you fall even further behind as you cheer for people who look down on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:05 AM
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The OP asked two questions. She even mentioned the previous question from a few days ago in this post. Pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:29 PM
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Child support, too. The most hardcore pro-choice women turn into Baptist preachers who take joy in telling people to keep abstinent if they don’t want a kid, as long as those people are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:01 PM
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You’re seriously asking why men aren’t putting effort into pursuing women who clearly don’t like them? How many times have you been arrested for sexual harassment, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:10 PM
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OP, describe a business partnership in your own words. When two people go into business together, which one submits to the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:35 PM
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Once again the OP comes on here preaching the gospel of the Madonna/whore complex. “Why don’t you guys want to be chaste Madonnas who aren’t interested in sex? The fact that you want sex at all means you’re exactly like those whores she slept with in the past that meant nothing to her!”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:03 PM
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Too much competition from bears. Not worth the effort. If women like you, they’ll make the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:41 PM
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Sure it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:05 PM
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You seem extremely sheltered. There’s a reason the Tea app hit the top of the App Store so quickly, and it’s not because of men being inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:54 PM
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You understand that any man who does that these days is going to end up posted on a Facebook cyberbullying group or cyberbullying app at best and plastered all over TikTok at worst, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:43 PM
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Are men allowed to have baggage because of women, OP? Or does that make them incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:24 PM
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They do though. That’s why Jeremy Meeks had women throwing themselves at him based on only a mug shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:29 AM
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Men are assholes because it works to get women. If it didn’t work to get women, men wouldn’t be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:17 AM
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The left stopped having anything to offer me when it openly embraced fundamentalist islam and continually defends it at every opportunity. I’m not teaching my kids to accept that shit, and neither are millions of other parents. Boys can find their own path that best represents their values, because the left no longer does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:14 AM
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Women were only getting discounts because of men’s behavior. Why do you think those discounts should continue after the men’s behavior has changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:14 PM
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What if you’re asexual? What are you exchanging for sexual access then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:08 PM
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So which one is it when I hang out with my brothers and just do random stuff unrelated to ‘protecting’ anything? When I’m interacting with my coworkers who are 5 years from retirement, which one of them am I trying to procreate with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:06 PM
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“I believe things work like this these days, which is why my examples are all senior citizens”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:11 PM
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I’m asking you to google them and link them for me. If they’re all over the place and just as frequent as when it happens to girls you should be able to find them quickly and post them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:47 AM
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But where are the articles? Can you link some?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:39 AM
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Sure, but where are the news articles about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:29 AM
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Every week there’s another headline of some woman or underage teenage girl getting forced into sex work by violent pimps the government here refuses to lock up. Why are you encouraging people to contribute to the sex trafficking industry, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:21 PM
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OP, would you rather be unemployed, or actively headhunted by every company out there for jobs at every level of the economy? Both dead end low-paying ones as well as high-end executive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:31 AM
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Intersex is someone who’s genetically in between sexes. Hence the ‘inter’. People off to the extreme ends of male and female don’t fall under that definition because they’re off in the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:29 PM
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Jacob’s syndrome and XXX are literally the opposite of being intersex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:38 PM
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Why would someone get married to someone who simply wants to have kids and not work when alimony exists? Why commit to that sort of liability? The lesser earning partner isn’t giving anything up because they’d never earn that much on their own. Your autism example is the perfect test case for this. You say yourself the higher standard of living came exclusively from the spouse and the lower earner could have never achieved that alone. Why are they owed anything for leaving their spouse then? Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:38 AM
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So no women at all want sex too, eh OP? Why are women who get everything from their friends and vibrators even looking to date in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:32 AM
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I know when I see Melania Trump, the first thing that comes to my kind is that she loves her husband and he loves her. No other thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:14 PM
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This is, of course, why Michael Cera constantly has dates and Leonardo Dicaprio is always single. New women are definitely not lined up to constantly date Leo until they’re 25 the way they’re lined up to date Michael Cera.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:57 PM
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And plenty more serial killers, rapists, etc get victims because of how outgoing and unapologetic they are. Everyone who knows them, including their surviving victims, describes them as outgoing and personable. As I’ve said and keep saying, it’s harder for someone who’s genuinely nice and respectful of others to display these traits because they have to actively work to do so and work hard to respect the line and not be considered bad guys. For genuine sociopaths and bad people the traits come n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:28 PM
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No, but do you understand that bad people who genuinely don’t care about others are naturally more outgoing and unapologetic than people who are respectful of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:02 PM
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One type of guy automatically does the less apologetic stuff because he is actually a bad guy, the other has to work to do it because it goes against his nature as a good, respectful guy. Usually women go for the one it comes naturally to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:35 PM
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This completely ignores the fact that men who deliberately try acting more assholish get more dates and more sex. It even worked with me, and is how I ended up with my wife instead of all the other guys who were after her. When I met her I had made the deliberate choice to be less of a nice guy who was afraid of offending women, and it paid off. Same men, same women, different behavior, better results. Being Johnny Bravo gets much better results than being Hugh Grant in his 90s movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:16 PM
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I know if I had to ask about a girl's reputation, literally the only source I would consult is a bunch of incels in a cyberstalking echo chamber designed to attack women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:21 PM
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Ah yes, a bunch of random apps nobody has ever heard of are totally the same as the single most downloaded app on the App Store. You can tell by the massive coordinated defense of the apps you've mentioned by every media outlet in the world. Anyone criticizing them in any way is obviously a right wing extremist who wants men to be victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:46 PM
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Take your pick. For all we know she’s heavily opposed to the entire concept of racial equality because the government not actively practising structural racism is against ‘equity’. Maybe she really hates the concept of freedom from religion and secular schools because she feels certain fundamentalist Abrahamic religions should be able to steamroll any opposition and take precedence everywhere at all times no matter what the rules are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:52 PM
6

Remember, ‘therapy’ is to the far left what church is to the far right. You can even directly substitute the word ‘church’ for ‘therapy’ in a lot of cases, like in all the replies to your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:33 PM
0

“I’m not a deadbeat when I abandon my own biological offspring! Only men are deadbeats when they do that, and I’m not a man so I’m not a deadbeat for doing the exact same thing!” You’ve got the art of the disingenuous conversation down. You should teach classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:30 PM
16

I guarantee that the OP’s ‘compassionate for others’ definition includes some extreme left wedge issue that cost the Democrats the past election.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:03 PM
0

So you’re just actively trying to miss the point, aren’t you? Let me reiterate: You have a frozen egg. Your genetic material. Someone takes that and adds their sperm to have a child inside a surrogate without your consent. Not another couple’s child, your child, to which you are the mother and you are responsible for. The surrogate was hired to give birth and nothing else, and has no legal responsibility or connection of any kind to the child. Do you feel you should be responsible for raising an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:45 PM
0

No, it’s not adoption. It’s your biological child. 50% you, birthed from your egg. You are the parent, not the surrogate. Both are choosing to not have a child. Why do you feel only women should get that choice though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:24 PM
-1

They’re exactly the same: choosing to not have a child. If I steal an egg you’ve frozen and birth it with a surrogate mother without your consent, do you feel you should be forced to raise it because it’s your child?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:18 PM
1

Women should be legally barred from marrying anyone with such a significant power imbalance. Is he older? Does he earn more? Does he want you to be a homemaker while he works? No marriage license, and automatic annulment of any marriage done somewhere else. If you want to marry a high earner, you need to become a high earner yourself, and stay that way. Ensuring marriage only occurs within strictly enforced castes is the only way to protect these vulnerable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:11 PM
1

If a seed from someone else’s plant takes root in my garden, I don’t get to claim plant support for my decision to grow it into a plant. I had the choice to simply not do that and remove the sprout when I saw it, and all sorts of tools available to me to help me uproot it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:01 PM
11

When an attempted baby trap fails. She never had rights to his earnings. The baby did, and the baby has already received all the money required to raise it. If the mother has already stolen $100k of the baby’s money for herself the the baby should sue her when it grows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:57 PM
-3

The minority of cases? Really? So you’re not even trying to have a serious conversation anymore. I bet you think women lose half their pensions in divorces the way men do too, right? The simple fact of the matter is that the guy always has his life ruined by divorce, and has to suffer through a relationship where he receives abuse or is simply no longer connecting to his wife because of who she’s become. He can’t simply pack up and leave the way she can. Society at every level, but especially th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:35 PM
1

Did you read the post at the top of this thread? How can a guy who only has one woman interested in him find all these prettier women interested in him to cheat on her with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:31 PM
-2

When has a woman ever lost half her stuff in a divorce? Do you believe courts will make her hand her kids over to her ex husband by default and make her pay spousal support too? Do you think they’ll make her leave the house like the absolutely will make the ex husband do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:27 PM
-4

And this proves my point. When a man marries a woman who seems normal and she ends up not understanding what a partnership is and hating him for her imagined grievances he’s not allowed to just exit the marriage consequence-free like she can. He’s going to be made to suffer for leaving an abusive situation and have his kids placed with the abuser to be kept from him and turned against him. It’s no surprise that he’d seek any escape that’s available.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:22 PM
2

No man gets married to any woman below his ideal. If he’s sticking with a woman he dislikes and cheating it’s only because he knows she’s got the divorce gun to his head so he can’t leave without his entire life being destroyed. She can thus be as immature, hateful, emotionally abusive, etc as she wants because she knows if he ever respects himself enough to actually leave her she’ll get half his stuff, his kids, and spousal support for life. The only thing he can do in that scenario is tolerate…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:11 PM
1

That’s entirely dependent on their choices in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:01 AM
1

You’re on an app where you’re presented with literally thousands of men ranked by physical appearance that are willing to meet your every social and physical need at a moment’s notice, and you think it’s only men that don’t see the value of committing to one partner only? An app that’s basically “free gigolos in your area that will definitely fulfill your every sexual fantasy in real life tonight and probably pay for your dinner too” is so much worse than porn. People aren’t having kids because …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:01 PM
5

As they should. Two guys living together as roommates would be doing equal shares of housework, so why would it be different in a romantic relationship between a man and woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:01 AM
0

Everyone is expected to cook and clean, not just women. It’s a basic part of being an adult. And if she’d changed his spark plugs she’d probably have a ring by the end of the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:49 PM
1

I’ve done that for my previous girlfriends, and now my wife. I’m not a stay at home husband. Where are you getting this ‘stay at home wife’ idea from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:45 PM
5

Why does she need to be a stay at home wife? I can take care of a house and I aim to be a good dad, but I’m not a stay at home husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:32 PM
8

OP, if a guy did that for you, how would you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:29 PM
7

Conversely, women don’t enjoy men’s brains. They’d be perfectly happy with men as lobotomized labour drones, like human bees they can be the queen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:20 PM
2

Have you ever been to Jamaica? They definitely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:45 AM
0

OP, just get an arranged marriage already. It will allow you to finally achieve the sexless relationship where the man can’t leave that you so obviously desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:36 AM
1

People knew about Weinstein for 20 years before #metoo. Family Guy was making jokes about Spacey raping guys in 2005. People absolutely knew. The concept of the casting couch in Hollywood has been common knowledge since the days of black and white movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:52 PM
3

What makes you think a 28 year old won’t think like a kid? I dated 28 year olds when I worked retail, and the 20 year olds in university who actually cared about going somewhere in life were far more mature and responsible. You live in a world where rich children in adult bodies are on the news every day, and you honestly believe age and maturity are correlated?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:59 PM
1

Looks like I really touched a nerve with your preferred brand of slavery, eh. Do you take a lot of trips to Dubai to their resorts built with slave labor while thinking you’re somehow righteous? Do you think about all the rape that led up to your last trip to Starbucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:55 PM
1

What a convenient way you’ve found to justify your preferred brand of slavery. I guess rape on a forced labor camp producing chocolate isn’t as bad as rape on a porn set.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:46 PM
1

Again, eating food of unknown origin isn’t a necessity. More than enough food is grown domestically. Eating food where you aren’t absolutely sure no slavery is involved is a choice. Chocolate isn’t a necessity. Coffee isn’t a necessity. Seafood isn’t a necessity. Avocados aren’t a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:43 PM
10

Are people who eat fish complicit in the slavery that happens in the Southeast Asian fishing industry? Are people who watch movies complicit in what Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, etc do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:04 AM
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Think Bob from Fight Club big.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:57 PM
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I don’t think you understand just how big fat guy titties can get
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:13 PM
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The biggest set of titties I ever saw was on a fat guy. I think your theory has some serious flaws, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:56 PM
15

Is the common thread rape? Because at least three of these guys are well known rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:56 PM
1

Pets are literally free a lot of the time from shelters. What was John Wick so mad about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:15 PM
2

You can easily replace your car. Do you value it? You can easily replace your pet. Do you value that? How about your friends, your job, your clothes, or any other possession you have that’s still on the market?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:10 PM
2

I have no idea what this means. I’m asking what your opinion is of guys who go to Vegas or Miami or LA to get with women who are more attractive than the ones in Calgary or Dublin or wherever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:42 PM
4

That’s like the textbook definition of an adversarial dynamic. “The only reason I’m not treating you worse is because you have options. If you didn’t, I would. I don’t actually want to treat you well.” It’s how unskilled labor jobs treat their employees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:38 PM
5

What about the guys that aren’t American and are ‘passport bro-ing’ in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:27 PM
5

It’s time for the ‘you’re sweet/human resources’ meme. We all know what separates ‘good/nice’ from ‘asshole who thinks he’s nice’.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:56 PM
6

All men can cause the same harm to women. There’s no difference between the nerd and the jock. I’m joining the other guy and asking what exactly you’re trying to communicate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:28 PM
2

I want to see them go full Indian matchmaking with these western platforms. The guy gets evaluated with all the same criteria, but the girl has information about her weight, skin color, and ability to cook added.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:44 PM
5

“Some of the boys I grew up with are trash, so every man in the world deserves to be slandered online with zero ability to defend themselves!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:43 AM
2

So we’re agreed that you’re just pushing red pill content then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:38 PM
3

Read your first paragraph to the end starting from the third sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:31 PM
4

The left pic looks like one of those “why are you looking in my direction when I’m at the gym doing sexy poses in front of a camera, you creep” women, whereas the right pic looks like a normal cute woman happy to see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:33 PM
5

And yet you keep making these threads that all start with “accept the fact that the hot losers get all the women and you need to work on having the perfect personality to come in second place once they’re done with the women you want”. As I said, you just keep posting red pill talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:28 PM
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They’re not doing that though. They, like you, know that women’s interests are the attractive men, and that as long as they’re attractive themselves their behavior literally doesn’t matter. They’re not lying, they’re agreeing with everything you’ve said in your opening post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:46 PM
5

This user is so committed to red pill logic she keeps spreading it in every post she makes. “Men, your behaviour literally doesn’t matter as long as you’re attractive enough! Go to the gym and focus on looksmaxxing and you can have all the women you want without having to put up with the games they make unattractive men deal with! Why focus on coming in second place when you should be focusing on being the guy so far in first place he can be a broke piece of shit and still get the woman you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:35 PM
3

You’re just a walking logical fallacy factory, aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:17 PM
2

Ah yes, now every guy in the world is Elliot Roger and should be treated exactly as if they are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:04 PM
3

Ah yes, because the problem is definitely that the douche got some women, not that every guy who isn’t the douche is being treated exactly the same as if they were. Great job not missing the point there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:31 PM
2

I know. The rest of the guys on the show didn’t behave like him though, and treating them like they did would be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:12 PM
3

“UFC fighters get to sleep with women sometimes. Therefore all men want to be UFC fighters. All of them, everywhere. We should therefore treat all men like they’re Connor McGregor or Andrew Tate. This makes total sense and definitely doesn’t only filter for Andrew Tate types while actively repelling everyone else.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:48 PM
5

Ha yes, the typical straw man. As expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:12 PM
3

“If we treat all men like criminals they’re immature and pathetic for not wanting to deal with us. This same type of profiling in any other setting is definitely not applicable to this topic in any way!”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:45 PM
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No, I replied in the right thread. As I said, you sound like someone who’s a huge fan of profiling people and treating them as criminals. After all, anyone who’s upset about being treated that way is just immature and pathetic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:40 PM
6

I take it you like being followed around stores in case you steal. It really drives you wild about those businesses and makes you want to shop there over anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:29 PM
5

Or literally any other famous rapist. Diddy? Women all over. Kobe Bryant? Ditto. Every boomer rock band who openly raped children and sang songs about it? Legions of groupies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:07 PM
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Women: “Let’s treat every guy like he’s Johnny Bravo and only out to fuck us at first sight. We’ll heavily test and shame them, but we’ll also only sleep with guys like Johnny. Every other guy gets the same initial hostility even if they’re normal and respectful and don’t try to sleep with us.” Men: “Cool, Johnny gets to sleep with women sometimes and we get all the same negative treatment he does no matter what we do. Let’s be more like Johnny if we want sex, or let’s reduce contact with these …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:04 PM
0

And most people in western society are white. That doesn’t mean a significant percentage of the population doesn’t fall outside that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:24 PM
1

No, they aren’t. It’s a well known phenomenon that women avoid marrying ‘down’, whether that’s income, age, education, whatever. A man’s actions and personality usually take a distant second to his ‘status’, which is something every boy learns in high school. Educated adult women are even worse for this, and will only marry ‘up’. There may be one off exceptions here and there, but the simple fact of the matter is that women are the ones who marry transactionally, while men marry anyone with few …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:00 PM
2

There are plenty of broke smart guys. Most scientists and teachers, for example. Plenty of smart blue collar guys too. They don’t really fit into your reductive stereotypes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:06 PM
2

Explain why no educated woman making 6 figures ever marries a man without an education and 6 figure income, but men with those things marry regular women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:44 PM
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She’s not a rich woman though. Her husband was a rich man and she’s a divorcee with his money. If you wanted to make an example of an actual wealthy woman marrying down you’d use Taylor Swift, but she’s not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:42 PM
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There are lots of men who date less attractive women. Just look at Pierce Brosnan or Hugh Jackman. And if nobody marries outside their economic class, why are the nightclubs and singles bars around Wall Street always packed? Who do professional athletes marry? Why would you be upset about ‘passport bros’ if that was even remotely true for men? We know women don’t marry below their economic class, but men don’t care about economic classes when it comes to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:40 PM
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Is that why so many rich women marry poor schmoes off the street? Matt Damon married a bartender for love, many rich men marry down for the strength of the relationship alone, but I’m just not seeing any rich women marrying down instead of engaging in transactional relationships and marrying wealthier men. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:27 PM
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OP, what’s your opinion of the women in these relationships? Why are so many of them in transactional relationships if they don’t prefer them? Why can any ‘passport bro’ get a date in countries where local men exist? Are you familiar with the phrase “it takes two to tango”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:17 PM
2

And yet all those men you’ve used as examples of men who look like bad men still have women lined up to date them. Trump, McGregor, all the rest, never single despite their actions and personalities being public record. Lots of good men who’d never behave badly are single though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:39 PM
1

Why do you care if they exist if you never see or interact with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:06 PM
1

Find women in public in Afghanistan and show me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:03 PM
1

Yes, it’s a bad thing. If you want to live without women in society these days you can always move to Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:49 AM
1

This is how you end up with Bortus and Klyden from The Orville, and the society they’re part of that has no women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:09 PM
2

Then what difference does it make if you ‘give away the milk for free’ or not? They’d break up with you either way because there’s nothing there to sustain the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:50 PM
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The correct saying is “if the only thing you have to offer is milk, why buy when you get it for free?”. As long as you bring literally anything else to your relationship you have nothing to worry about. If your relationship is only built on sex, then you should worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:40 PM
1

And far more people date without any serious intentions just enjoying dating a person until they get to really know them a few months in and develop serious intentions. I don't know why you're all so fixated on equating the act of dating someone you find attractive and want to get to know better with 'casual sex'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:14 PM
1

Who's talking about casual sex? We're talking about dating someone and having sex with them while you're dating. Not every relationship leads to marriage, so it stands to reason that the majority of the people you date will be people you sleep with and split from after a while. You and the other guy all seem to be religious types against any form of sex outside marriage, as you both view that as 'pumping and dumping'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:12 PM
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That's just you though, and you can approach a guy with serious intentions just as easily as they can approach you. Relationships take two people agreeing on the future no matter who initiates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:26 PM
2

And we're back to the puritan mindset again. Tell me, do you think every woman starts every relationship they've ever had with the expectation it'll lead to marriage and kids from the get go? Or do you think they date people they like to have a good time and get to know them well enough to see if they're right to settle down with? When you dated in college, were you picturing a house and 2.5 kids with every partner before the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:23 PM
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How does someone you're seeking sex from 'use you for sex'? You're obviously attracted to them and willing to take a chance on dating them with a risk of it not working out, so who exactly is being 'used' here? If a guy who was into Sydney Sweeney got her to go out with him because she just wanted to 'use him for sex', he wouldn't be unhappy about it because he still got a chance to date and sleep with the woman he was extremely attracted to. Other guys didn't get that chance. Do you think he'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:13 PM
7

What a weirdly puritan mindset. "If I asked out someone I found attractive and he said yes I'd lose all respect for him for being so easy, just like men would lose respect for Sofia Vergara if she said yes when they asked her out. If these men really liked me they'd act like Pepe Le Pew and relentlessly pursue me."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:02 PM
8

Why are you asking out men you find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:52 PM
6

Why would a man fake a personality if you're already asking him out based on the personality you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:40 PM
5

This is why geographic location should be a requirement to post here. It filters out all the "here in rural Pakistan this happens, so it obviously happens just as often in Manhattan or LA" type posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:39 PM
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"Men I'm attracted to will go out with me and sleep with me if I ask. Having the men I want give me a chance and get me off really sucks."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:29 PM
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https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/cons/consdoc/obligat.html
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:49 PM
1

It's not about when you pass 30, it's about when they do. And yes, I noticed significantly more attention from 28 onwards from women who'd never given me a second look before. The closest thing I'd experienced before was the last year of high school where everyone wanted to bag their childhood crush before we graduated and went our separate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:34 PM
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But he didn't have a child. He just lived with a woman who had a child from another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:59 PM
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So you think women who regularly attend church are just going "lol no I'm not religious, I'm just here to get wild with these party animals and find some dick" to acquaintances? Do you think churches are accepting of people who broadcast to acquaintances that they're not religious and only there to hook up with the congregation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:11 PM
1

Then you're known as the guy who preys on his acquaintances and no woman will ever get close to you again without assuming romantic intent on your part. It's not a good strategy, and it actively harms all your non-romantic relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:05 PM
15

And you have a way of knowing which people who regularly attend church are religious and which aren't, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:01 PM
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Tell me what you think the reaction will be when a religious woman finds out her new boyfriend isn't religious and only went to her church looking for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:57 PM
2

Because any man that asks a woman out after getting to know them is vilified for 'pretending to be a friend when he only wants sex' or 'harassing women just trying to go to work/the gym/an activity'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:52 PM
2

Who's "lazy, entitled, or lacking social skills" just for being themselves? Do you subscribe to the just world fallacy where you believe any guy who has good qualities will just fall into a relationship? Because that only works for women, not men. Men can be hard working, humble, social guys with good values and still end up alone because they don't give 'tingles'. And most of them end up that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:03 PM
2

I did read it. Did you read it before you wrote it? Men are being asked to change because who they are now isn't good enough and nobody will like them as they are. The exact same message being fed to them by the 'manosphere' with the MGTOW stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:49 PM
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Men, if you want a partner, just put on an act and maintain it the rest of your lives. Nobody will ever want the real you, so don't even try showing it to anyone in the hopes you'll be accepted. You must replace your standards and your personality entirely to conform to what society tells you that you should be. OP, why are you sending men to 'manosphere' influencers by telling them they shouldn't be themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:53 AM
3

Tate sexually traffics 'cam girls'. What platform do you think he forces them to stream on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 09:10 PM
2

You're right. The guy behind the scenes you don't see that's forcing her to do OF is the one doing that. That's Andrew Tate's whole MO.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:56 PM
1

Why don't you post this exact OP in twoxchromosomes and see if other women can recognize their 'mature' boyfriends who had reached the finish line in their 20s and recognized how mature and pretty a high school girl was. They know all the predator talking points you've written in the OP. Points 2 and 5 of your opening post may as well be in the groomer instruction manual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:56 PM
1

"Boys your age are so immature, aren't they? I was never like that a decade ago when I was 17. You're so mature for your age, and I feel so connected to you. We should go out. Come over to my place this weekend and we'll have drinks. Don't tell your parents though, they wouldn't understand."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:43 PM
1

Most women will actively defend #6 to the death if their role is ever challenged by their partner. The only thing they hate more than running their household and having to 'baby' their husband is having their husband run the household and 'baby' them. Especially around other women. Look at any discussion of who sets the standards around the house. Nothing the guy does is ever good enough, everything is criticized and attacked, and it's always the woman that gets her way no matter who does the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:26 PM
2

You've set the expectation that the party who does rhe caring shouldn't be paying bills, and the party who oays bills shouldn't be doing the caring. I'm simply running with that logic when it comes to what the expectation is of men who pay the bills when their wives get sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:00 PM
1

Right, so why do you have an issue with it if they pay the bills? You've clearly outlined the expectation that one party pays the bills and the other party does the caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:51 PM
1

I lived on a floor like that my first year, but my girlfriend at the time lived in a building that had apartment-style suites with multiple bedrooms where they had to keep the common areas clean themselves. Her bathroom was filthy, even with three girls living there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:48 PM
1

The OP writes like a 25 year old sexual predator preying on high school girls. "Girls are so much more mature than the boys your age. You should be dating an older guy who's got his life together and is mature like you."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:45 PM
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I take it you've never lived in a college dorm. Lots of 18 year old women didn't know how to do those things 20 years ago when I was in college, and with the rise of helicopter parenting since then I'm guessing even more don't these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:41 PM
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Remember men, if you pay the bills it's expected that you shouldn't take care of your wife. It's one or the other, not both. It's why all women are completely fine with it when men who pay the bills leave their wives when they get sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:39 PM
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Yet another woman actively perpetuating the Madonna/whore complex and starting a thread to argue with men who view it as a thing of the past they don't believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:48 PM
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I'm sure the other guys at the unemployment office will applaud you for this line of thinking after you've been canceled and fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:20 AM
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People set their perceived equal by who they can get into bed. What women don't realize is that men will get into bed with women they would never, ever date. The old timey term is the 'moped' that's fun to ride, but you'd never be seen with it in public. That's why women's perceptions of their equals are set way too high. Use who you can get into a public relationship with as your standard and your 'equal' will become clear to you really quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:10 PM
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But women definitely don't perpetuate Victorian-era concepts like 'duty sex' and the Madonna/whore complex at all. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:34 AM
1

Again, citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:07 PM
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It absolutely is an expression of that. Two clearly different standards for the 'Madonna' good LTR guy and the 'whore' hook up guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:05 PM
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It isn't an insult though. Nobody under 70 would take it as such. It's like calling a German Jerry or some other WW2 era supposed insult. It's completely meaningless and wouldn't be taken as an insult by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:04 PM
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Why would I do that? Anyone anywhere is going to react badly to some outdated old timey insult. I'd get the same reaction if I called a gay guy a h**o, but it doesn't mean it's an insult or that it's commonly used these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:47 PM
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Again, what world are you living in where 'easy' is an insult? It's not the 50s anymore. Any guy who uses the phrase 'pumping and dumping' these days doesn't respect any woman whether she makes him wait or not, so it makes no difference to those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:32 PM
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Citation needed This is yet another example of being mentally stuck in the past and not living in current-day reality. Unless you're living in some religious third world country you're not going to encounter this behavior from anyone of dating age these days if you're clear up front about your intentions. If you have deeper feelings for the guy and pretend you're only after a casual thing, then complain that he 'used you' when he was only after a casual thing instead of a deeper relationship, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:22 PM
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Because women are the ones actively perpetuating it these days. The "I'll fuck a guy I don't care about instantly, but I'll make the guy I do care about wait" behavior is a textbook example. No guy thinks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:16 PM
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My parents worked extremely long hours at jobs with long commutes, so I did all that with my brothers when I was still a kid. It wasn't easy, but I wouldn't call it super difficult either. If a 16 year old high school student can manage to feed and take care of two younger boys while also going to high school, doing homework, working a part time retail job, and doing all the household chores, a fully grown adult shouldn't have any problems with it. Especially with only one kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:27 PM
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Unless they're a man who chose to be the stay at home parent, of course. Then both society and the courts will unite to call him a lazy bum who chose to stay home on vacation and play with his kids at his wife's expense instead of getting a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:22 PM
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This woman and anyone agreeing with her are simply perpetuating toxic masculinity and encouraging harassment of other women. She's too lazy to communicate clearly, and she obviously encourages men to constantly harass women by 'shooting their shot' with women who are clearly disinterested. She wants Johnny Bravo or Pepe Le Pew, not an actual real life man who listens to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:58 PM
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Sure you don't expect that. That's why you clearly agreed with me from the start when I simply agreed with your opening argument that the key to successful relationships is to treat your new partner worse than everyone you've been with before and definitely not give the new partner what you gave others before without making the new one jump through hoops. You definitely didn't take offense to your own idea at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:09 AM
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I'm simply expressing the same views you expressed in your opening post. It's weird that you're so offended by your own ideas when you're on the other side of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:04 AM
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As I said at the start of this comment chain, you've clearly cracked the secret to successful relationships. As long as you clearly treat your partner with the open contempt you've clearly expressed for your own views here you'll be on the road to lifelong happiness and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:03 AM
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Who wants a virgin and chaste woman who sucks dick right off the bat? Are you one of these weird religious types that has to lie about your past and has been 'a virgin' for the last 8 guys you've slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:56 AM
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These men aren't broke, they're just vetting you to ensure you're not some gold digger who can't wait for them to open their wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:55 AM
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Lol okay there. As I said, you've clearly figured out the secret to successful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:51 AM
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Again asking me the questions I've asked you. As you clearly stated in your opening post, whatever those women had or however they were treated is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is you're not getting the level of trust they had and will have to wait and prove yourself before you get what they did because you're a shady character who might be a gold digger. Doesn't that just drive you crazy with attraction and make you really want to stick around with this guy over anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:51 AM
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I asked you this question. I'm not sure what you feel you're accomplishing by asking it to me instead of answering it. Again, why do you feel you deserve a guy who puts in effort, dresses well, and spends money right off the bat before he's vetted you and determined you're willing to wait and are thus worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:46 AM
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So by getting offended by the idea that men don't need to spend money on you, you're literally saying that the only value men have to you is their wallet. The concept is very simple. You're making your current partner wait for a level of intimacy you didn't make any previous partner had to wait for. That's treating them worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:41 AM
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Read your second paragraph of the original post again. What does it say? Were these other men treated with a greater level of trust than the guy you're making wait? Or were they treated the same as this guy? If a guy you're dating made you wait six months before he introduced you to any of his friends because he wanted to vet you, but introduced literally everyone he'd dated before to them right away, is he treating you the same as his previous partners? Or worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:38 AM
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Why are you entitled to the same treatment other women had? So what if a guy puts in 100% for them and flaunts money for them? Why do you think you should get what other women had before?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:36 AM
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It's strange how you opened this topic stating how you gladly treat these men worse than the men you've been with before, and made it clear you look down on them for expecting to be treated as well as the men you've been with before, but are now offended by my post stating that the key to a successful relationship is to deliberately treat your partner worse than everyone you've been with before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:35 AM
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So you're obviously irresistibly attracted to these men and definitely willing to date them until you've passed their tests and decided to start putting in effort for you, right? After all, you're a good woman and definitely not a gold digger who'd be turned away by such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:29 AM
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The real secret to a successful relationship is to treat your partner worse than everyone you've ever met before and force them to jump through hoops you've never made anyone else have to go through. Everyone knows the way to filter out bad people is to just treat everyone like a bad person and go "aha I was right about you!" when all the people who don't want to be treated like bad people don't want to be around you anymore. The ones who stay because they don't mind being treated like bad peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:12 AM
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Oh I read it correctly. Tell me why you feel 29-year-old AOC shouldn't have been elected because of the power imbalance between her and her older peers. Since they'd obviously be picturing her in diapers and never take her seriously because her frontal lobe had only been developed for four years at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:09 PM
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So a person in their 20s is responsible and mature enough to be a cop, your boss, a parent to their own child, etc, but they're not mature and responsible enough to make their own decisions on dating other adults? Please, explain this puritanism to me. I want to know why you feel someone like AOC or Zohran Mamdani is just too powerless and childish to be equal to their older peers in terms of decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:06 PM
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Again though, how does being attracted to a fully grown woman in her 20s make someone a pedophile?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:56 PM
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I was in middle school when my wife was in university. Is that weird? What's really weird is your permanent infantilization of grown adults. You seem like the type of person who'd freak out if their boss was younger than them, or if a cop in their 20s gave you a command, since you'd be picturing them in diapers and all despite them being full grown adults who possibly have children of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:55 PM
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How does being attracted to a full-grown woman in her 20s make someone a pedophile?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:57 PM
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Because birth control fails sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:48 PM
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Claimed an accident the first time, off birth control the second time, hole in condom the third time is one possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:48 PM
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It sounds exactly like she was lying about being on contraceptives though, or poked holes in his condoms because she wanted to get pregnant and he didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:14 PM
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I notice you didn't answer that last question
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:07 PM
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We don't need to go into women's spaces for that. Sex and the City showed us all these things decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:19 PM
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Does this work for men too? If a man isn't getting what he wants out of a relationship, should he be 'strategically bitchy' to his partner to pressure her into things she doesn't want to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:57 AM
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Why is your aunt bragging about baby trapping your uncle? And why are you viewing it as a good thing? If he had been the one bragging to you about how he pressured your aunt into having 3 kids she didn't want, would you have this same attitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:52 AM
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Let me guess, OP, you're not married. I am married, and I chose my wife specifically because she was actually nice to me and has always shown me respect. All the bitchy women I've dated ended up as girlfriends I broke up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:50 AM
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Then no father at all should be added until they're confirmed to actually be the father after they pay for a test themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:01 PM
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The question isn't whether paternity tests are required to catch diseases though. The question is why the OP views them as a waste of money, but doesn't consider other tests for obvious and non-fatal things like hearing to be a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:54 PM
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They can be added to the birth certificate if they're the biological father, which a paternity test would confirm. If they're not, the father should be located and added.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:49 PM
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That doesn't catch everything though. Examples of what doesn't get detected: https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/what-birth-defects-cannot-be-detected-during-pregnancy#d-iagnosis
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:45 PM
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It's a standard test that's run on babies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:43 PM
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Because they'd be registered as the legal father of a child that potentially isn't theirs at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:42 PM
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How exactly is that proving the OP's point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:39 PM
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It's literally illegal for men to go get these tests done in a lot of places. All of France, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:38 PM
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On the kids born to drug addicts and alcoholics that get seized by CPS at the hospital.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:37 PM
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Knowing a baby's true parentage is important for the health of the baby. Lots of things that aren't easily caught by blood tests are inherited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:36 PM
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Drugs, alcohol, multiple congenital diseases, developmental disabilities, hearing, and a few others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:30 PM
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Why are mandatory paternity tests a waste of money, but all the other mandatory tests on kids not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:15 PM
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Everyone should risk losing their job, friends, and freedom over 'courage' and 'social intelligence' because women don't like it when men follow the rules women told men to follow. It's clear that 'social intelligence' means the same actions always get the same reactions from all women, because all women everywhere are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:24 PM
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Your kids are always there whether you're working or not. You can spend all the money you're making in your salary paying the salary of someone else to watch them, or you can save money and watch them yourself, but they're always there and you don't get a break from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:58 AM
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How is any of that different from being a mom who doesn't stay at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:51 AM
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Are you a cartoon character from the 1920s? Do things as stereotypical as flowers actually make you happier than literally anything else that money could have been spent on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:12 AM
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"And why did you get cancelled, Fred?" "Well Ralph, I was trying to make connections without caring about offending women. Now I'm fired and lost most of my friends because of something I did on vacation in a city three hours away"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:35 PM
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That's not my experience, and I'm married to someone who I met when I was 26 and she was 32. Older women will happily date younger men as long as those men are roughly in the same mindset and place in life. University age to early 30s is when most people enjoy the most freedom and are most open to socializing, so most people in that age bracket will be open to dating anyone they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:38 PM
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This is what happens when you spend 24 years teaching kids that any criticism of islam is 'islamophobia' and grounds for being canceled. Pair that with social media enabling muslim guys like Andrew Tate to reach kids directly, and it means the kids start believing islamic teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:15 PM
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Tell me in detail how it's nothing like race.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:24 AM
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I am attracted to her because of her looks, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:24 AM
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Really? Let's try it. "The reason you don't want to do it with someone your race is the issue" Seems closed-minded as hell to me. Let's add the other common arguments with race swapped in. "Think of the power imbalance between people of such different races. You're exploiting that poor girl, and she should be dating someone her race." "What could two people of different races even have in common?" Wealth could also just as easily be substituted for age in any of these arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:19 AM
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My wife has always looked much younger than me. She's a foot shorter than I am, has a baby face, and has barely aged in the 15 years we've been together. She's 6 years older than me though. Should I not be attracted to her because she appears to be a lot younger than I am?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:18 AM
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You can just as easily substitute 'race' for 'age' in that sentence. Why are you pushing such closed-minded nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:15 AM
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How? How is it different than him having a heart attack and dying on the court tomorrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:02 AM
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Who decides that they should not proceed? And what happens if the mothers decide they should proceed anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:55 PM
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Should men who have risky jobs be allowed to have children? Military personnel, police, workers in high-risk industries, etc. They have a high risk of leaving a kid in a single-parent household, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:49 PM
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Do you think IVF treatment should be outlawed, OP? Women choosing to have a kid via a donor by themselves specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:42 PM
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Then that's not all cases, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:40 PM
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Then that's on you, isn't it? It's like guys believing they have to look like Chris Hemsworth to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:18 PM
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There isn't a single straight man on earth that cares about designer clothing or handbags. The Kardashian look also only appeals to a small subset of men, and actively repulses the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:17 PM
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What about when it's women posting here saying that, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:35 PM
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"I live in a house. Why do women who live in apartments think they have a shot at dating me? Don't they know they're too poor for the lifestyle I can afford to give myself and are thus subhumans who shouldn't even be in the same room as me?" OP, this is how you and the woman in your example come off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:26 AM
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Which is a greater sin in your eyes? Female oppression or 'islamophobia'?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:02 AM
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Everyone has a type. If I'm their type and they genuinely like me, I'm completely fine with that. If I'm just an interchangeable cog and they don't actually care about me as a person then it's an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:58 AM
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I know Gen Z is pretty socially isolated, but pretty much everyone who went through high school or college pre-lockdowns knew plenty of girls who were openly chasing guys in their mid 20s and up and completely trashing every guy their age. I know I personally experienced it. There are lots of young women who want guys with money, cars, and their own places, and they're not shy about going after those guys. They're also not shy about making it clear that they feel guys their age are broke, immatu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:00 PM
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I take it you don't actually know very many smart successful men. The most important thing by far they select for in marriage is avoiding divorce, as that would absolutely wreck their finances, family, and career. An adversarial queen bee who doesn't know how to effectively play on a team to achieve shared goals isn't a good fit when it comes to keeping a stable marriage. If they go for a professionally successful woman, she'll most likely be from a culture that discourages divorce and values go…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:08 PM
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If there was an app like this for men to leave reviews of women I bet you'd be leading the charge to get it shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:56 AM
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You, like the OP, are missing the point entirely. “Your career isn’t a factor in my decision to date you” does not mean “I won’t date anyone with a successful career” or “I don’t want anyone who earns more than me”. It means your career literally doesn’t matter when it comes to the decision to date you. You could be a doctor who owns her own practice or a janitor who mops the floors at that practice and have exactly the same chances when it comes to finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:53 AM
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The real question is why women don't just date the guy they're dating for their own reasons. Why are they so eager to surrender their autonomy and let others make decisions for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:01 PM
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Most men aren't cut. In the US and heavily muslim and jewish countries maybe, but worldwide most men are natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:11 PM
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Circumcised men have less sensitive penises, so they need to jackhammer during sex and push for things like anal to feel anything. They've all basically had death grip from infancy due to the majority of their nerve endings down there being removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:10 PM
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A woman with a bad attitude or who wants to be high maintenance is completely different from a literal criminal or an abusive cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:35 AM
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You're describing lust, not attraction. The world isn't a porn set, and most people aren't out there looking to immediately tear each other's ckothes off and fuck at first sight. Being attracted enough to show active interest and ask someone out is very common for everyone, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:39 PM
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So nobody you know has ever asked a guy out or had a crush on anyone? That is extremely strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:26 PM
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"Women don't experience immediate attraction" is complete bullshit. Women experience it just as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:55 PM
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You sound like you hang around only women and don't know any men, OP. You've only listed things that women look for in men, and you're surprised that men don't care about them? Men don't look for careers or status when they're looking for women. Men look for kindness, loyalty, and someone to be a true friend they can share their deepest thoughts with. I'm guessing you hate that though, and view it as being a 'free therapist' instead of a trusted life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:46 AM
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The only man you're going to attract with this Victorian-era mindset is one who also holds on to these ideas. Guys who live in the modern era won't deal with this nonsense and will move on to someone else who actually shows interest in them and makes that clear. You think "if he really wants me he'll chase me", but every guy younger than middle age has been raised to understand that you only chase people who are running away, and any guy who does so is about as welcome as Pepe Le Pew was chasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:39 PM
1

9% is actually pretty tame in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:16 AM
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That's great. Everyone is happy during a bull market. How were you doing in 2022 when the market was red?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:23 PM
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Life experience. Let's use you as an example. Do you have any close friends with different political or religious views that you still get along with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:22 PM
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You sound like you'd be a terrible investor, OP. The entire concept of 'never invest more than what you'd be willing to lose' seems lost on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:19 PM
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OP, have you ever actually spoken to a woman on a regular basis? Do you have any female relatives or friends? Because you sound seriously unhinged and isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:18 PM
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Women have stronger in-group tribal bias than men, and far more hostility to tribal out-groups. This is why they'll literally bully other women to suicide and not feel any remorse about it. If you're in the clique and conform, women will care about you. If you're an outsider in any way you're an enemy who deserves every bad thing that happens to you, and they'll actively make sure bad things happen to you. Men as a group are far more empathetic to outsiders and try to treat everyone with a basel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:12 PM
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That's definitely not the fallacy in action again, right? Male criminals date regular women, and the women either don't mind or think it makes the guys more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:12 PM
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That's not how this works. If something isn't true, it's false.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:02 PM
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Which part of her statement is objectively true?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:27 PM
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When your argument relies so heavily on the 'No true Scotsman' fallacy that it needs to exclude the majority of women in existence as 'exceptions', it's an invalid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:18 PM
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I read it. Did you read the comment you replied to where I said it was objectively wrong? Because it is. Most men can clearly get away with being deeply flawed if they want, as deeply flawed men are extremely successful with women. Most men aren't deeply flawed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:07 PM
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Way to back up your argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:40 PM
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She's saying men with deep flaws can't "get away" with them, which they clearly can long enough to get the wife and kids that are completely out of reach for lots of men without deep flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:40 PM
2

So women are equal except when it comes to paying for things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:07 PM
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Tell me, do you consider anything other than an A+ to be a failing grade? Or do you understand that there are different degrees of being flawed? When it's abundantly clear to anyone with even a bit of life experience that women will gladly take a moral F student with a good body over a B or C with an average body, rants like the OP's are easily recognizable as nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:57 PM
1

Insert Skinner meme here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:51 PM
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Your point is objectively wrong though. Deeply flawed men have no problem finding partners. Your local police know of hundreds of literal criminals in their division alone who keep finding new women to date, sleep with, and have kids with. The media is full of stories of deeply flawed men who women are throwing themselves at as well. The fact that single moms exist shows that men can get away with being deeply flawed long enough to reproduce, whereas tons of men with no flaws are single and chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:45 PM
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I'll shorten it for you so you can understand how disrespectful it is: "You're a guy easily within reach that I can settle for when my attempts to grab the guys out of reach that I really want don't pan out."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:39 PM
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Stop sleeping with religious men and you won't have this problem anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:50 PM
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What you don't realize, OP, is that gender roles are policed even more heavily by women than they are by men. That's why so many women won't date bisexual men even if they're progressive and okay with LGBT people in general. The red pill is a thing because it works and gets the desired results. It's that simple. If reality meshed with your viewpoint then red pill behavior wouldn't exist because it wouldn't work. Look at any female-related subreddit and you'll find insecurity and fear in spades. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:26 PM
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Are you honestly trying to tell us that if you were alone in the woods and another man tracked you down, you wouldn't be afraid? Or even a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:57 AM
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You need to learn what the 'women are wonderful' effect is and how it applies at every level of the legal system, including before arrest and before reporting so things never get recorded. Think about how often you see overt sexual harassment or violence committed by women in your day to day life where nobody ever does anything about it, then think about what would happen if a man was the one doing those actions in those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:55 AM
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So if someone is biased against muslims, is that okay? Rich and poor alike commit terrorism without anything linking them across social classes but their religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:48 AM
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Sounds like OP has seen his first hijabi thot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:56 PM
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DJ KHALEDDDD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:13 PM
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Troll harder, bro. This is way too obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:04 PM
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Do you go down on women, OP? Do you find that degrading too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:46 PM
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You seem like a party girl looking for a rich fuckboy to provide a lifestyle for you to show off on social media more than someone who's actually serious about finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:46 PM
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Feelings don't result from someone simply being 'engaging and attractive'. There's no need to overcome feelings that don't exist in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:06 PM
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So we're agreed that it's not the guy's fault that she doesn't have healthy boundaries, and that she would be in the wrong if she got upset at him not wanting a relationship. Any guy in this situation where a girl is sleeping with him in the hopes he'll catch feelings is entirely to blame, and the guys in those situations are entirely blameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:45 PM
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That's beside the point. The question is about the guy. Is he in the wrong for continuing to sleep with this person?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:39 PM
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Do you honestly believe being 'engaging and attractive' is all that's required to create feelings, with nothing preventing that? Not relationship status, not employment, not age, not blood relations, nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:36 PM
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If a woman initiates a FWB situation in the hopes of making a guy she has feelings for her boyfriend via sex, but the guy never becomes her boyfriend, is the guy at fault for continuing to sleep with her knowing she wants a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:32 PM
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So in your opinion if he develops feelings for you ten years after you meet and they're unrequited, he should just suffer in silence for your comfort? No matter how painful it is for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:03 PM
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"Anyone who ever wants to have sex with you at any point in your life never valued your friendship and was just waiting to get into your pants the whole time! The guy you've known since kindergarten was just playing the long game to get his dick wet in college! He never saw you as a friend!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:44 PM
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So how do you know he didn't do that with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:59 PM
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So how is it predatory when another girl is into it with him too? You seem pretty against it in your first post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:47 PM
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How can you say that? Think of the power imbalance between him with his experience and you without any as a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:44 PM
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But was he a virgin? Or a predator with experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:41 PM
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Who did you lose your virginity with? Another virgin? Or someone more experienced and therefore 'predatory'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:55 PM
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When I was in the dorms during my first year of college there was a girl on my floor who prided herself on being a virgin hunter. She'd find guys who'd never had sex before and sleep with them. She really had a thing for shy types especially. Women like this are rare, but they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:45 PM
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I saw another post on reddit yesterday where a friend was expressing disgust about someone in their mid 30s dating a 27 year old. They were really obsessing over the age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:05 PM
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So again you avoid simply answering the question and keep up the attempt to deflect from the age difference into "he knew her for five years and groomed her as a coach" out of nowhere. I'll ask again: If an 18 year old adult meets a 40 year old adult on Tinder for the first time and decides to meet up for sex and nothing more, is that wrong? Neither of their lives is changed in any way except they meet up some nights for sex and then leave afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:02 PM
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Troll harder
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:04 PM
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I notice you didn't answer my question about the tinder hook up. Is it wrong if an 18 year old just meets up with a 40 year old she met on tinder for sex and nothing else? Instead you're focused on some straw man that's a coach who's known your hypothetical 18 year old since age 13. Why are you deflecting from your own question?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:02 PM
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Those aren't arguments though. They're just nonsense. Nobody in any 'age cohort' has any responsibility to others their age to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:13 PM
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There's the moving of the goalposts we all were waiting for. Tell me, if an 18 year old met a 40 year old on tinder for hookups and nothing else, is that wrong? No effect at all on either one of their lives except that they meet up some nights to fuck each other and then leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:12 PM
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So what is your argument then? That young men are using their decades of experience to groom older women whose brains haven't finished developing? That older women are just incapable of making the decision to sleep with younger men casually? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:04 PM
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Are they just sleeping together as FWBs with no strings attached? Then yeah, no problems there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:03 PM
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The majority is completely fine with sex under three months, which is still 'only wanting a hookup' territory according to you. A third is fine with sex anywhere from 8 to 31 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:47 AM
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So you think younger men can outsmart older, more experienced women for sex. Do you think younger women outsmart older guys to get what they want out of relationships too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:25 AM
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The figures in that column add up to 81, not 100, and 29/81 are completely on board with sex under a month. That's over a third of people under one month, and over half under 3 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:12 AM
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You yourself spent most of the last thread about this talking about how women are completely justified sleeping with any random guy she's attracted to immediately just for sex and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:47 AM
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That really doesn't stop them from ghosting women after sex though, does it? So it's not really a factor in deciding when or if to sleep with them. In fact it's more likely that any man willing to put up with that level of distrust is far more likely to be in it just for sex and nothing else, since the rest of the relationship is so toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:28 PM
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But if he's willing to wait four months, meet your friends, probably meet your family, and jump through all your hoops just to ghost you after sex, who's to say he won't do it after clearing just a few more hurdles? It happens all the time in religious cultures where sex before marriage is taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:22 PM
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So why ever sleep with a guy? How do you know he isn't just going to ghost you and file for divorce right after your honeymoon? What's the difference between waiting four months, four days, or four years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:11 PM
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That's not really related to them sleeping with you early though, is it? It's like saying men should get to know a woman for months before ever paying for a meal because some women are just out for free meals and ghost afterwards. The problem isn't eating together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:59 PM
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I'm directly addressing it and telling you that your problem is that your massive Madonna/whore complex is fundamentally incompatible with the view men have of all women being the same. Your view that men wanting to sleep with someone they like early means they're only whores out to sleep with other whores isn't shared by anyone else who isn't brainwashed by your Victorian era mindset. Men want to sleep with women they like early, and will take that relationship as far as it'll go. All the way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:56 PM
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You didn't though. You've even quoted my posts in the original post here without learning a thing. You're still trying to convince us all that there are two classes of people: Madonnas and whores. You're still unable to comprehend that men don't think this way and only have one class of people: women they like and want to sleep with. Your posts explain nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:51 PM
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Explain in detail when the appropriate time for a guy to want to sleep with a girl is. After one date? One year? After marriage? Outline for us all when he's allowed to want sex without it being "just to get his dick wet".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:45 PM
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"I'm totally not perpetuating the Madonna/whore complex. I just believe anyone who wants sex in a relationship is a dirty whore who's only driven by lust and anyone who wants a real commitment would get their parents to arrange a marriage for them before ever touching each other. Anyone who wants to date is a filthy degenerate who only wants sex and nothing more"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:31 PM
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Yes, trying to get to know the person you like. Not just trying to have dinner with any random body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:29 PM
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No. That makes no sense. It's like saying any guy who wants to take a girl out on a date just wants to go out to dinner and doesn't care who he's with. You're really grasping at straws here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:37 PM
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You're a textbook example of exactly why men should avoid women in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:46 PM
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Is a woman in the wrong if she doesn't want to be alone mentoring a male employee?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:46 PM
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So it's not understandable to be wary of strangers and protective of your ability to feed and care for your own kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:41 PM
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I'd like to hear your thoughts on male coaches mentoring female athletes, OP. Is it sexist if the athlete or her parents are leery of a male coach after all the news in recent years? Can you understand why men at work would be unwilling to risk being seen in that light?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:29 PM
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His point is that boys are taught not to hit, but girls aren't, so girls don't control themselves and hit more. You can see the results of this with how often adult women physically strike their male partners because they think their hits are weak and therefore acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:40 PM
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That's not true though. Men in straight relationships are the least likely to report being abused by their partners. There are actual laws in place which state that the man gets arrested every time there's a domestic violence call whether he's the perpetrator or victim, and those laws heavily skew the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:38 PM
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I've been a serial monogamist my whole life and everything I've done was in relationships at various stages with people I cared about. I hope my kids have experiences like that. I don't regret any of mine, and I don't want them to regret any of theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:49 AM
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Jesus Christ, just get an arranged marriage already. You can avoid all the evil modern guys who see sex and attraction as important parts of a relationship that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:17 PM
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You seem like you're actively trying not to understand that most men have one setting when it comes to sex: "I like this girl and I'd like to sleep with her early and try to build a long term relationship from there". You have two settings when it comes to sex: "I'm going to act like a woman from the Victorian era and make this man I'm not interested in sleeping with wait as long as possible so I can vet his job, assets, and social standing before giving him obligation sex" And "I'm going to jum…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:14 PM
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Except that specifically isn't what they want. They want to be treated like Chad the same way all the other Chads you slept with were. What they don't want is for you to treat every guy except them like Chad, then use the excuse that you just care too much about them to treat them like you're actually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:48 PM
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So in your view, men should actively deny sex and all signs of attraction to women they're interested in long term relationships with? They should reserve those things exclusively for the women they only want to hook up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:46 PM
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So again, why do you think long term relationships should be sexless? Why is having sex early reserved for hookups and denied in long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:43 PM
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Because he wants a relationship. What's your reaction to him wanting sex in a relationship like everyone else in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:41 PM
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Tell me what your reaction is when a guy who wants a long term relationship with you expects that you'll sleep with him the way you sleep with guys you hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:30 PM
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So you believe that anyone who thinks sex is a part of a long-term relationship only wants sex and thinks "sex is everything"? Why do you think long-term relationships should be sexless?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:53 PM
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"I don't trust you enough to do everything with you so I'll make you wait months while I vet you, but I immediately trust this random guy off Tinder enough to do everything with him. Why would you ever be turned off by that?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:00 PM
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You just keep reinforcing that Madonna/whore complex with every post you make, with zero irony. What else should guys who want a real relationship not expect? Is it wrong for them to kiss you until six months into the relationship? After all, any guy who expects his girlfriend to kiss him in a long term relationship like she kissed other guys she liked is obviously just out for sex and nothing else, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:41 PM
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Why do you assume a guy who wants to sleep with a girl he likes in a long term relationship "just wants to hook up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:34 PM
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So it's exactly as I said in my second paragraph. You look down on the men you're in relationships with because they're less attractive than the Tinder guys who'll fuck you but not start a relationship with you. You think the only way the long term relationship guy can get sex is by lying about wanting a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:27 PM
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I understand the working definition. She views sex as dirty behavior only whores can indulge in with people they don't care about, and she views 'relationship material' as sexless clergymen. It's like she grew up in the Victorian era and wants to return to it. Just look at the original post here where she tells 'relationship material' who wants sex in a relationship to just leave and go get a hook up (whore) if they want sex in a relationship on equal terms to the other guys she's slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:24 PM
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So the relationship she wants is one without sex? She wants just sex, so she'll sleep with someone immediately. She wants a relationship, of which sex is an important factor, so she won't have sex with the person in the relationship and tells them to just leave if they want it? Make it make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:21 PM
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"All men are the same everywhere, just like all women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:39 PM
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So, again, actively perpetuating the Madonna/whore complex by holding different standards for different guys based on your conservative mindset around relationships. Why would any guy who doesn't hold this mindset and who simply wants to sleep with a woman he likes in a long term relationship not be upset about this? You're showing him you like him less than other men by making him wait, and you're even actively telling him to leave you with the original post of this thread, so why wouldn't he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:37 PM
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That doesn't really make sense. Why is she sleeping with someone who she fears would look down on her for it in the first place? The more likely explanation is that she's used to sleeping with really physically attractive guys off Tinder that she knows she has no chance of a long term relationship with, but looks down on the guys who would date her long term because they're not as physically attractive as those men. She thinks they're so unattractive they need to lie about wanting a long term re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:31 PM
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You really don't understand that the guys you hook up with and the guys you want relationships with hold the same values about sex whether they're in relationships or not? They don't hold this weird conservative mindset you do. They just want to sleep with women they like as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:27 PM
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This is nothing but a straw man to beat to justify her own behavior. It's clear all the guys she meets hold the same standard for sex, relationship or not. It's her that's acting differently based on how she assigns value to these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:26 PM
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Nothing you're saying here challenges my initial point that you're actively perpetuating the Madonna/whore complex. You're actually reinforcing that point with every comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:16 PM
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But you'll gladly sleep with men who only want sex with hookups because they can't get it any other way? Or are you telling me you view the men you have feelings for as so unattractive they can't get sex any way other than pretending to be interested in long term relationships? And that the guys you find physically attractive enough to sleep with immediately aren't worthy of long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:15 PM
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Unless, of course, they're 'just a hook up'. Then it's off to the chapel to get married by an Elvis impersonator. No vetting needed. Any guy who'd be upset you need years to vet him before marriage when it's clearly not an issue for you with anyone else is obviously clueless and should just leave to find a girl in her whore phase he can marry that night in front of Elvis, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:09 PM
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It's truly amazing how many women like to perpetuate the Madonna/whore complex by thinking like this. Not guys, who would all like to sleep with the girl they like as soon as possible, but you, the women, who clearly hold different Madonna and whore standards based on how you feel about the guys. It doesn't even make sense. You like a guy so much you won't have sex with him for months, but you'll immediately jump into bed with guys you don't like? What else do you apply this ridiculous concept t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:55 PM
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You must not know many women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:07 PM
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So if it's the norm for women to have deep self esteem and confidence issues, it's okay then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:04 PM
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And women who want dominant men don't have deep self esteem and confidence issues? Traditional women don't expect men to listen to them talk about their day and their issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 01:53 PM
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That's definitely what first comes to mind when someone thinks 'husband material'. How hot they are and nothing else. Like Brad Pitt. Perfect husband to all his wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:40 PM
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Lots of celebrities are only popular and sought after because they have money and status, not because of who they really are. That's why they get divorced so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:09 PM
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Tell me your views on 'death grip' and if you feel men with it are good in bed and have lots of self control. Can they finish from light stimulation in less than a minute?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:45 PM
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You really don't think cutting away the nerve endings responsible for most of a guy's sexual pleasure is a primary reason why that guy would be too rough in bed his entire life? What would a primary reason be, if not that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:23 PM
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Of course it's not the only cause, but it is a major one. Circumcision in the US is largely done because of Dr Kellogg and his drive to stop boys from masturbating. The large-scale deliberate reduction of male sensitivity is definitely related to the lack of female pleasure during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:15 PM
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Circumcision essentially gives a guy deathgrip for life. They'll never recover the sensitivity they've lost. Uncircumcised guys can take it easier and slower in bed and match their rhythm to the woman much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:53 PM
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I think it's primarily women from countries where guys are circumcised and have lost most of the sensitivity in their penises. They have to jackhammer these women to feel anything, which isn't fun for the women. Because the women also hold the cultural bias towards circumcision and have likely never slept with an uncircumcised man, they think all sex with all men is the unenjoyable jackhammering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:46 PM
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So your indicator of 'real personality' is how two professional actors present themselves at work events facing the media? Do you think Brad Pitt shows his real personality in interviews too? Can you tell me why you believe status and money have less to do with attraction than personality? We can both see what status and money gets you when it comes to attraction from the opposite sex, and every person on earth knows what it's like to be around unattractive people with 'good personalities'. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:06 PM
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When women look at those two, are they attracted to their real personalities? Or are they attracted to the superficial presentation and bodies of those two professional actors?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:52 PM
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"My wife never looked at me twice, but society swung the discourse and now we're together" is a very valid phenomenon. Just look at how Asian men fared in the dating market 20 years ago vs in the last few years after Korean media got big.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:49 PM
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Men emulate the men they see having success with women. Women choose which men have success, and by extension what traits are emulated by men at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:42 PM
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It doesn't have any factor in making people attracted to you though. It's an afterthought once the hurdle of attraction is crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:37 PM
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Donald Trump is described by those who know him as having all of those traits. Does he have a good personality? A lot of rapists and serial killers also possess those traits. Are their personalities good?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:56 PM
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This is just reinforcing my point that the presentation is what's important, not what's behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:54 PM
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So we're agreed that personality doesn't make you attractive, and is only a secondary consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:53 PM
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None of that is relevant if they're getting laid and you aren't. It's actually just a great lesson that attraction lies in the performance, not the real personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:39 PM
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I don't misunderstand. I understand quite well that the personality isn't relevant to the attraction. The other qualities women are actually attracted to are what's relevant, and the personality is secondary and unrelated to the actual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:38 PM
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If a 'shitty personality' was actually an obstacle to getting laid, guys wouldn't have shitty personalities. That's obviously not reflective of reality though, is it? We all have eyes and ears and can see who manages to get partners and who doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:27 PM
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In this very thread the phrase 'toxic masculinity' has already been mentioned as something unattractive, when in reality the things described as 'toxic masculinity' only exist because they work and women are attracted to them. Even in this very discussion the lies persist. If women were honest about what they found attractive, men would actually know what to do to be attractive and women would have far more men they're actually attracted to around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:23 PM
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Then society needs to stop lying to people that attraction isn't important. Specifically women, who often say they're attracted to one thing when they're actually attracted to the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:13 PM
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But you're asking them to go back and act like they did 70 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:21 PM
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What do you mean 'starting' to date older? Women have always trashed young guys and pursued older ones. Always. It's why "ooh college boys are so hot" is a common trope for high school girls in all western media that depicts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:50 AM
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Surprisingly, men don't want to be friends or more than friends with people who think them choosing to be around people they like is 'cowardly behavior'. If women want modern equality brought about by feminism achieving its goals, they should be just as willing as men to "to woo, to approach, to make a move, to plan dates, to impress, etc". If they'd rather have regressive sexism where it's entirely on the men and nobody else to do those things then they can also go international and seek out me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:17 AM
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OP, you know women get friend zoned too, right? And they get angry when a guy they've friend zoned just stays friends when the woman decides she finally wants a relationship with someone she considered a backup option who would always carry a flame for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:49 AM
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Remember, when a woman has a problem in the bedroom it's the man's fault. When a man has a problem in the bedroom it's also the man's fault. This is the double standard society holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:00 PM
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'Modest women' are usually brainwashed by religious nonsense and hate the world because of it. They hold the same level of hatred for modern women that incel men do. Men are right to avoid them, because not only are they bad in bed, they're extremely likely to have regressive social and political values as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:56 PM
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You didn't answer the question. Should only women lose the ability to vote until they're 25? Or men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:04 PM
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So do you think only women are children until the age of 25, OP? Or are men children until that age too? Which sex should lose the ability to vote for 7 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:13 AM
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a tall woman who demanded 'short women date short kings' because the short women were taking the tall men who... 'belonged' to HER This same phenomenon applies to the sudden widespread opposition to age gap relationships from older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:46 PM
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Mt relationship with my wife stayed hot and heavy and very porn-ish for ten years up until covid, but it's more relaxed now. Maybe we just got old, or we were stuck inside together for too long with no time apart. It is possible to sustain the 'honeymoon' sex for a long time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 08:03 PM
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In such societies polygamy becomes the norm, which ends up creating the same outcome with even less equal distributions. Women living in sexually free societies aren't locked into marriages without the option of divorce, or into legally defined harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:59 PM
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What color is your hijab? And what punishment will you receive from your family for wearing clothes that show your legs? Since these are things all women also have to deal with, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:30 PM
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Do these claims constitute some sort of response to me confirming I'd call out a guy for making ridiculous claims that supposedly apply to all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:30 PM
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You're asking me to point to something I'd do in the future in my comment history? Do you think that's possible? You seem to have a really traditional view of sex that's out of step with most modern women, and you seem to be offended by being asked if you think most women these days actually agree with your views. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:26 PM
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If a guy posted a claim like this about men, yeah, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:18 PM
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Have you floated this theory in any woman-oriented subreddit to gauge their responses vs yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:06 PM
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OP, why do you think the majority of women don't also view sexual compatibility as important? Your own preferences and views are not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:57 PM
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Women heavily police other women, so that's why you don't see any posts about it. If you want to see it in action though, look at women's behavior around male strippers at bachelorette parties, look at women who go to Jamaica for sex tourism, go to cougar bars, etc. The desire is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:53 PM
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Every man on earth has seen the women he grew up with talk shit about guys their age all through their teens and twenties, and only date older men with money, fancy clothes, cars, and houses. This is nothing new, no matter what culture you're in, and it has nothing to do with 'predatory men'. It's always been about women seeking lifestyles better than they can get with guys their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:08 PM
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Again, he changed his mind after more time spent getting to know her after they both appeared on a reality show that encouraged quick commitment. Why is he 'manipulative' for that? He didn’t empty her bank accounts and take her house. He just decided to end an engagement like a lot of people who get engaged do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:28 PM
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So he's a bad man and 'manipulative' because he changed his mind after getting to know her better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:15 PM
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Adults do chores. Both adults in the relationship should do chores. Paying someone to do your basic responsibilities for you is too lazy for me, and I'd definitely end a relationship with anyone who did that if they weren't in some super high end career where they were raking in so much money that their hourly rate was higher than the cost of the cleaners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:17 PM
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Statistical averages are just that, averages. That means there are enough women who prefer relationships with partners significantly older to drag up the mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:40 PM
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Not having things like this happen? https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/queens-child-rape-suspect-admits-recorded-kissena-park-attack-drug-problem/5522349/ https://abc13.com/post/houston-12-year-old-girl-murdered-jocelyn-nungaray-body-found-creek-rankin-road/15015796/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Marrisa_Shen
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:36 PM
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They won't stick around with them, but they will cheat on you with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:49 PM
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"Not all women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:39 PM
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This has to be a rage bait video, right? She hit just about every stereotypical talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:44 PM
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The OP is religious, and this type of weirdness around sex is common with the deeply religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:56 PM
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Some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:54 PM
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Because single dads have to be extremely upstanding individuals worthy of custody to even have a chance of getting it, while single moms get it by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:57 PM
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I didn't say there weren't plenty that didn't do it. What I said was your assumptions that most have never done it are wrong. The majority of women are just as horny as men and partake in a lot of the same behavior, but women hide it because of the social stigmas attached. I've been happily married for a long time, but I have a lot of memories of hooking up with unassuming nerdy girls and religious types when I was younger that have never told anyone about their past behaviour, and I was good fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:43 PM
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Again though, you're relying only on them voluntarily telling you information about themselves that would make them lose face if you're not close enough to them to be trusted with it. You're most likely basing your assumptions on inaccurate information.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:35 PM
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What proof do you have that "they often don't work"? A lot of us have seen multiple real world examples of them working.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:56 PM
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Not all women talk about it with anyone but their closest friends, you mean. Lots of women pursue casual sex. I'm betting far more than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:43 PM
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I remember back in high school hearing girls openly talking about a fit new teacher in his late 20s. They went into loud details about how they'd like to tie him to a chair and have their way with him. Locker room talk out in the open at lunchtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:15 PM
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I don't know what world you lived in back then, OP, but I'm 40 and was made keenly aware by the girls I knew 20 years ago that they'd never date anyone their own age. The majority of them wanted older guys with cars, money, nice clothes, and their own places. They didn't want broke students like me or the other guys their age anymore after the first year of university when they stopped living in the dorms. I was personally witness to a group of girls stating clearly that they were all after guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:03 PM
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Women do more housework than men in every scenario, including when both are single. Single women still spend twice as much time as single men on housework, even when nobody is 'forcing them to'. Women tend to be more high strung than men, and more focused on the home, while men get the home 'good enough' and then focus more on things outside of it. This is the result of individual choices and preferences, not some supposed 'deficiency' in men because they choose to not be as high strung about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:17 PM
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My wife went to "Thunder From Down Under" when she was in Vegas with her cousins. Was that wrong too? She told me about it, we had a laugh, and I don't care at all. Should neither of us ever go to pools or beaches because there are people there in swimsuits we can look at?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:22 PM
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I've had enough girls trying to pressure me into sex with their fat friend I wasn't into at all to know how coercion works. It's not something anyone should go through for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:46 AM
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This is behavior that comes entirely from women feeling they have exclusive say over how the house is run. The people going on about 'weaponized incompetence' are showing the same behavior that the mothers of their partners did, micromanaging and setting extremely high standards that inevitably result in the woman 'having to do everything' because she wants to be in charge of the house. There's never any ceding responsibilities to their partner and accepting their partner's standards and how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:22 AM
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So being a single mom is preferable to ever signing a pre-nup. Got it. Interesting set of values you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:49 PM
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Most people would count level 2 on this scale as the minimum for 'speaking a language': https://www.cia.gov/careers/language-opportunities/foreign-language-proficiency-scale/ And level 3 as native proficiency. The OP seems to consider only levels 4 and 5 as 'fluent', which is too high a bar for most people who only speak one language.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:06 PM
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I'm asking you what happens when the husband is ambivalent about kids and gets pressured into having them by the woman. He wants a partner only and she wants to be a stay at home mom without a career. She's simply looking for someone to pay for it all. Why does she need compensation for her 'sacrificed career' if she never planned on having a career in the first place? I know more than one woman that's baby trapped a guy into marriage, and I'm betting you know of at least one as well. Why can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:50 PM
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I'm talking about two 27-year-olds dating each other, one who started dating people at 16 and the other who started dating at 26. 11 years of experience vs 1. Who's dating a child? So if I understand your point correctly, any guy who hasn't been trying to be Johnny Bravo since he started high school is just a loser who's at fault for missing out on life and should just give up since he'll never find someone his age with the same level of experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:53 PM
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When someone starts dating at 16 and the other starts dating at 26 because they're a late bloomer, which one has a decade more experience than the other if they're both 27?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:01 PM
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How are you in the same stage of life if your partner has a decade more experience at relationships than you do? You're just making your first attempts at learning, while they're probably looking at the end of their journey and seeking entirely different goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:42 PM
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Putting yourself into a relationship with someone your age that's vastly more experienced than you are makes you the partner that's easier to influence. Why is that acceptable? Because you think men can't be abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:23 PM
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So all the women going home with guys from bars and nightclubs are just on dates? Tinder is only used for dates and relationships? How about on university campuses, cruise ships, resorts, hostels, and everywhere else people go to hook up? Are all the people there just on dates or in relationships? So Kyle isn't allowed to have friends with common interests who call him whenever they want to do those common interests together? He's being exploited when he's called to hang out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:05 PM
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So men who act like assholes to get sex are completely okay as long as they recognize that the women they're having sex with enjoy having sex with men who act like assholes? Or is that not okay? In your example, is it Kyle that's being exploited? Because Kyle obviously wants to go to the club and chat up women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:27 PM
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Is anything people do to be liked 'dehumanizing' to the people they're trying to get to like them? If I see close friendships as rewards of being a good person, am I dehumanizing my friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:06 PM
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Do you get more comments about it from men or from women? Who shames you for it more? Because I seriously doubt it's the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:32 PM
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Are the men on this forum the average man? Or are they 'red pilled'? Go ask on r/dating, r/sex, or just any guy in real life instead of deliberately picking spaces where you'll hear answers from right wingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:25 PM
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They exist, but those are the religious right wing types, not the average man. Slut shaming is done far more by women than by men. The only men who do it are the aforementioned religious right. The average man believes a woman has just as much right to sleep around as he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:22 PM
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Men don't want that. Women believe men want that, but it's not a thing except with extremely religious types. Women perpetuate those beliefs more than any man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:17 PM
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Who? She only dated Macaulay Culkin. They were never married.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:34 PM
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She was 40, on her third marriage, and with 3 kids. She chose to marry him, and given her track record on relationships she was the one who made it not work. He's been in a successful marriage with Mila and has had no problems making that work, so it definitely wasn't him that wasted anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:45 PM
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He had agency, which is why he left. You know, the whole thing you have a problem with. What point are you actually trying to make here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:03 PM
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Demi Moore started dating Ashton less than two years after the woman he was dating was murdered, when he was 25 and she was 40. He's her third husband. When someone is 15 years younger than you and in a bad place when you met, and you've been married twice before, you don't get to pretend to be a victim when the relationship doesn't work out. She wasn't a 'starter wife', she was someone much older and far more experienced who obviously was unable to maintain stable relationships with anyone. Kut…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:14 PM
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You think otherwise. That's what your entire first reply to me was about, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:02 AM
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What a strange, drawn out way to say it's a mandatory requirement and not a personal choice at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:54 AM
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You don't see the issue with islamic holy sites, which are governed under islamic law, requiring hijabs when you just told me islamic law doesn't require hijabs? Really? If it's a personal choice, why can't a woman visit without one?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:38 AM
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Explain what the Iranian government is doing then. And why wearing a hijab is required to visit islamic holy sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:30 AM
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OP, you realize Demi Moore broke off her engagement with Emilio Estevez right after meeting Bruce Willis, then married Bruce 4 months later, right? Then she divorced Bruce Willis and married Ashton Kutcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:24 AM
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Hijabs worn in western countries are one of two things: 1) A symbol of oppression the woman is being forced to wear by her family under threat of violence or shunning, or 2) The muslim equivalent of a MAGA hat Neither should be accepted or viewed with respect
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:17 AM
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How many women and girls have been murdered for wearing a hijab in western countries? Because I can cite multiple cases of girls that have been murdered by their families for not wearing one in my province alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:15 AM
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same way that if western women go to muslim countries and dress or act the same, they will be criticized. They won't be 'criticized', they'll be arrested, given lashes, and most likely will be sexually abused by the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:13 AM
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OP, you seem to not understand that what women say they do and what they actually do are two very different things. Women will absolutely have casual sex with men they just met, but they don't go around telling people about it unless you're one of their closest, most trusted friends. That is if they tell anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:09 AM
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Your premise is wrong. It has been from the start, and even your own posts in this thread about how guys who aren't toxic assholes are too boring to be attractive show how it's wrong. Just look at the post I'm replying to here. Obviously there has to be something else unspoken that's wrong with the guy even though the woman dating him says he's great in every way except his good-natured attitude. Definitely no way your premise could be wrong and the thing she says is turning her off is actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:10 AM
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So there's just no way at all for any guy to be nice or kind, right? Nothing good in any way about it because they're all secret misogynists with literally no way these words mean their literal meanings. It's a real mystery why Gen Z guys are all turning conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:04 AM
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I'm not the only one who's found this, and there are far more examples than this. Just look at the men in this thread acknowledging it. As I said before, the men who want to sleep with these women have learned this and have become the men they know these women like. Because it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:51 PM
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And these women are specifically attracted to guys who act like assholes and turned off by good guys. Men know this, but you seem to find it hard to accept. Men who want to sleep with these women become who these women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:34 PM
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From one of the first posts that came up when I searched twox: With the previous guys I've been with, it's mainly been with emotionally unavailable guys and the chemistry I felt with them was intense! This guy seems like a happy go-lucky guy and it's just not sitting well with me and I feel a huge mental block from my end. She is specifically not attracted to him because he isn't toxic. She's far from the only woman who displays this behavior, and guys are very aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:26 PM
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I'm not talking about guys who are complaining they can't get girls. I'm talking about posts from women who have been on dates with these guys that they described as 'amazing'. Women who really want to be attracted to these guys, but aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:13 PM
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OP, search "he's a genuinely good guy but I'm just not attracted to him" in twox or any other woman-oriented sub. Let me know how you interpret the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:29 PM
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I've noticed women hold this belief far more than men do. With men it's usually religious types, but with women it seems to be universal. That's the source of the ridiculous "I like him so I won't sleep with him for a few months, but I'll fuck all these guys I don't care about immediately" trope. An internalized Madonna/whore complex they live by and then project onto guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:45 PM
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Which men are talking about women this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:25 PM
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All her posts in this thread are just complaining about guys not being able to do housework to her satisfaction while wanting to just have a relationship with a woman. The way she talks about sex shows that she holds the worldview of a woman from the 1930s and thinks women don't enjoy sex with their male partners. The 'hole to use' phrase in her opening post is especially telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:37 PM
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What makes you think they don't like women? Does needing help to learn how to do things women heavily gatekeep mean they dislike you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:29 AM
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Do you even like men, OP? Do any of your fellow women? Men like women just fine, but it seems like women have nothing but hate for men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:07 AM
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The fact that guys like that have women about 95% of the time shows your views aren't anywhere near universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:33 PM
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Every man in the world has had crushes on girls his age in school and has seen them mock and belittle guys their age while actively seeking older guys to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:47 PM
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Playing Pepe Le Pew and chasing someone who doesn't show reciprocal interest is exactly the sort of behavior that'll get you put in a video.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:10 AM
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Men argue if they show more interest than the woman they'll end up in a social media video about 'creepy men' and be fired and blacklisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:54 AM
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The OP is making the fallacious assumption that 'men' are some sort of hive mind that all think and act the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:29 PM
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I suppose if guys aren't chasing pussy and acting like fratboys since the second they passed the legal age of consent they're just insufferable prudes who just aren't taking advantage of their chances to have sex the way women are, right? And anyone who didn't do this is just jealous of the ones who did? Is that how you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:41 PM
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Having FWBs is a major red flag by itself, and that's also sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:31 PM
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No one is expecting zero sexual experience. Expecting someone who has never had fwbs, group sex, sex videos on the internet, etc is normal. Someone who believes that every guy should have been acting like Johnny Bravo since he was a teenager since "he had the same opportunities to have sex" and has no self control is also someone to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:29 PM
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STD exposure is her sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:26 PM
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So your reply is really "men shouldn't be allowed to deny me consent based on my history"? Really? Anyone can deny consent for any reason, including the history of their partner. Especially the history of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:22 PM
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Then how is anyone 'using' you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:21 PM
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You're really sleeping with people you know nothing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:20 PM
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How many women hide their number of previous sexual partners or the types of sex acts they've done before, and why? Does doing that respect the ability to consent of the new guys they're lying to in order to sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:49 PM
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Men for whom "looking to score" includes deception, coercion, force, threats, guilt, etc. and then proceeding to use a woman's body for his own sexual gratification would rightly be considered a predator. What would a woman doing those things be considered?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:45 PM
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I'm 40 and married now, but I had far more women in their 20s actively hitting on me in my 30s than I ever did during my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:32 PM
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Act like a real person with her own goals and the ability to lead instead of a mindless servant with an external locus of control and men will be interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:07 PM
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Sure they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:55 PM
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My settings returned a 40% chance of finding the person I want, so I'd say I'm doing pretty well. I'm pretty sure they coded it wrong though. When you lower one of the filters the probability should get higher, not lower. Their calculator does exactly that though. When you lower the minimum height, for instance, your results decrease instead of increase due to the larger pool of results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:52 PM
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You're wrong. Men know they're going to be paying for everything anyway, so why does her job matter? Men care about looks, personality, loyalty, and the ability to hold a conversation far more than her employment status or paper educational credentials.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:51 PM
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I used to live in an apartment building a girl worked out of, and she stunk up the entire building smoking some kind of drug in her apartment. She was straight trash through and through. I'd never date someone in that line of work knowing what their day to day life is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:22 AM
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Literally "my friend likes you" from middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:51 AM
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Why would anyone, especially a rich guy, want to date an influencer? Literally the only reason would be money, and the guys she's after already have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:08 AM
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Failure causes resentment. If they knew how to have functional relationships with men they wouldn't be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:59 PM
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I don't have female friends because women have different friendship dynamics than men, and I don't have enough time to maintain friendships with women. I can go without speaking with my guy friends for a year and pick right up where we left off with no hard feelings. Can't do that with women. That, and female friends cause a lot of trouble with women you're dating. Even if you're purely platonic, the woman you're dating absolutely will have a problem with it on some level, especially when you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:56 PM
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The video was created by an anti-harassment organization Hollaback! and Rob Bliss Creative, an ad agency. Rosin says that Bliss apologized on reddit — in a post that's now deleted — for editing out white men. Bliss wrote "We got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera." That's why Bliss said he had to edit them out. (Serious question: Weren't most of the street harassers in the video interacting "in passing"?) This isn't the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:12 PM
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Aziz Ansari comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:01 PM
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That's because it was a white guy who made it, and he deliberately edited out all the white guys: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/11/01/360422087/hollaback-video-calls-out-catcallers-but-cuts-out-white-men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:56 PM
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I'll fill you in on a basic fact you don't seem to understand. When you're seen as a threat since you went through puberty, you don't get the same chances to be socialized that women get. What you get is a decades-long education on how high the consequences are of you ever making someone uncomfortable for any reason. "It depends" is a hard no for the overwhelming majority of guys, because we don't get the benefit of the doubt or have our mistakes forgiven like women do. We get fired, social medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:48 AM
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You keep arguing with the other guy when he tells you that it's far too variable to ever be sure, then your first sentence to me is literally "it all depends". There is no constant, so 95% of guys aren't ever going to approach because of how high the chances are the woman will take offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:40 AM
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What's an 'appropriate place' and 'appropriate situation'?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:29 AM
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Did you read the 'abducted' section of the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:00 AM
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Extrapolation from thr cases that have come to light. https://www.news24.com/news24/children-held-captive-previous-infamous-cases-20180116
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:26 PM
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That you hear of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:20 PM
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Random women get kidnapped and locked in basements for decades more often than you think. It absolutely does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:10 PM
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Both asked me out, but I turned them down because I was already in a relationship at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:13 PM
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Tom Brady is single and in Miami right now. Anywhere he goes he'll most likely be getting swarmed by women of all ages. Ditto Joe Manganiello. As for the average guy, I took adult swimming lessons back in 2018 when I was 34 and had active interest from a 21 year old and a 26 year old who were also taking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:12 AM
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Seriously. All this guy is doing is showing how desperate he is to the point he has zero standards or preferences for women he'll sleep with. He'll take whatever he can get. I'm a guy and I also have 10/10 female friends that I'd never sleep with. They've got no shortage of guys after them, but they're not my type physically so I've never felt any urge to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:01 AM
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Men, you too can get women to ignore your looks if you're rich and famous enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:06 AM
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But you're denying the multiple lived experiences you're hearing about here of women internalizing and acting on the madonna/whore complex. If they're not in relationships they go out and be the whore, but as soon as they're interested in a guy they turn into chaste madonna and act surprised when he (who hasn't done this) has a problem with variable sexual morals in relation to his unchanging sexual morals. He acts one way with every woman he sleeps with, whereas these women act very differently…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:17 AM
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I've been cheated on by women with this mentality when I was relationship guy in my younger years. I was also in school and starting my career so I wasn't living up to her idea of what she wanted from relationship guy, and instead of talking to me and trying to fix things she went out and slept with two "I'd never get in a relationship with him" guys who were fitter than I was back then. Two separate women did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:05 AM
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Yes, an experience between two people she's obviously more willing to have with the other guys, but not willing to have with you unless you jump through hoops first. That's one of the clearest ways to show she doesn't feel a connection with you the way she felt with the other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 03:54 AM
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It's important to remember that the white guy who made the video also edited out the white guys who catcalled her and made it seem like it was all non-white guys doing it. https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/11/01/360422087/hollaback-video-calls-out-catcallers-but-cuts-out-white-men https://metro.co.uk/2014/10/30/100-catcalls-video-director-admits-editing-out-white-people-4928473/ l
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:02 AM
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That's always been the strategy that succeeds though. It's the entire reason men have been pushy and aggressive throughout history. Because it works. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:12 PM
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I'm talking about regular 18 year old woman from anywhere. Not in the military. The guy is the one not hanging out with 18 year olds since his coworkers are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:46 AM
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What if an 18 year old has no 18 year old friends? If he's only hanging around with men and women in their mid 20s and above like a lot of enlisted folks are? Is he allowed to date 18 year olds then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:08 PM
3

Exactly the same if two months is the minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:25 AM
4

You really should talk to more women if you really believe that guys won't wait that long just to hit it and quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:18 AM
4

How does your method guarantee that? How does anything, even marriage and children, guarantee that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:15 AM
2

The same way any first date works. Do it, see if you both had fun and want to see each other again, start a relationship if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:12 AM
2

"Men: Lead women on for months if you just want to get laid." A better strategy would be for women to just sleep with guys on the first date to weed out the guys who aren't serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:07 AM
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Women are doing far worse in the name of 'vetting' you, so keep at it. You're not stalking them or discussing them secretly via public Facebook groups where you'll believe anything any guy says about them, but they're doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:50 AM
2

I'm 39, my partner is 45. We've been together for 13 years and don't have kids. We used to have sex about three times a week up until the lockdowns in 2020. We both put on some weight during them and I guess being around each other 24/7 for over a year changed the dynamic a bit, so it's dropped to about once a week with her just blowing me every day or two. Things have been getting back to normal over the past year though, and we're working out more together, so we're starting to do it more freq…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:13 PM
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Women date for status, which is why women worldwide trash guys their own age and actively hate the idea of ever dating younger (especially in their teens and early 20s). Notice how every age gap discussion is always focused entirely on the guy, and never on the younger woman who chose to date the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:08 PM
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Women get empty platitudes all the time from their friends who want them to stay fat and never try to better themselves so they can't compete for the same guys. They're more used to it than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:53 AM
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Misogynists get laid a lot more than guys who aren't misogynist, so your core arguments are wrong right off the bat. You can go to any bar, nightclub, sporting event, beach, etc and see how women actively choose the disrespectful misogynist guys who are clearly only after one thing over the more respectful less aggressive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:31 PM
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It shows that you have such poor social skills that you can't read the room. Nothing turns a woman off like inexperienced men that need her to take the lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:14 PM
1

So why didn't you tell these girls they should only date guys their own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:56 PM
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It's amazing that she's somehow focusing this on men instead of telling the young women around her they're only allowed to date guys their age and in their 'life stage'. I'm sure that would be received well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:45 AM
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OP, do you live in the UK or somewhere like it where it's literally not possible in the legal system for a woman to rape a man or a child on her own? Where the system itself skews the stats by making it effectively legal for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:30 AM
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Yes. The same way they use every other male only institution and service.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:04 PM
1

And yet you still oppose the very idea of having these cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:59 PM
0

They are getting assaulted like women are, and the problems with getting them are because of people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:45 PM
0

And yet here you are opposing male only cars for absolutely no reason. Why are you so supportive of men getting assaulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:40 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:30 PM
0

Women grope men all the time because nobody does anything about it. Head to any nightclub and you'll see multiple instances of it happening out in the open with nobody doing anything about it. Even in the most locked-down corporate offices with strict sexual harassment policies it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:59 PM
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As long as there's a men only car too I have no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:32 PM
0

Why don't you tell your sorority mates that they're dead to you if they ever date anyone but a guy their age and let me know what reaction you get. No dating anyone older than them with anything they want. Only guys their age. I'm sure you'll get nothing but agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:39 PM
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If that's what you want to believe, sure. Every single man on earth has seen the women his age put older men on a pedestal and trash guys their age and knows the score. Women actively avoid dating younger men and actively judge other women who do, but sure, you know better than everyone's direct experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:33 PM
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Older dudes aren't chasing younger women. Younger women are chasing older dudes and the dudes are just going along with it. I had far more women in their early 20s asking me out in my early 30s than I ever did when I was in my early 20s. Women that age dislike men their age and actively throw themselves at guys who are established and have resources like a car and a home. I knew it when I was young and broke and I keep getting reminded of it now that I'm older and prosperous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:27 PM
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Most of them won't, but enough of them hook up with guys that age for 40 year old women to be bitter about it. Most women fall under the bell curve of dating guys who are only slightly older, but there are more women who will date guys significantly older than there are ones who will date guys even one year younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:13 PM
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Except they are passionately arguing for it. That's part of the 'actively mean to guys their age'. High school girls actively lust after college guys, college girls actively lust after guys in their 20s (including professors and TAs), clubs, bars, sports leagues, Crossfit groups, and wherever else adults socialize are full of adult women actively lusting after high status guys. It's how the world works. You seem to have blinders on focusing on the low status guys who seek out younger women, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:04 PM
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I'm not arguing anything. I'm simply stating a fact that every guy on earth knows from multiple direct experiences. Girls in their late teens and women in their early 20s are drawn to men in their late 20s and beyond as long as the man displays status symbols like wealth, fitness, or prestige. It's why Leo has models lining up to date him for a few years until they turn 25, and why every boy band and rock star has legions of fans. Guys in their late teens and early 20s don't have status or wealt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:57 PM
2

Yeah, but what kind of wife is she going to be? Like Melania? Or like Helen Mirren?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:23 PM
2

The people that argue most passionately for them are actually teenage girls and women in their early 20s. Every guy on earth knows this because he's seen the girls he grew up with and had crushes on talk shit about everyone his age (their own age) and go for older guys with cars and houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:21 PM
3

I've heard liking short women (short being around 5'2", literally the global mean height for adult women) makes a guy a pedophile because women that height have "children's bodies". To this day nobody has given me an answer when I asked what height a woman has to be to have an adult's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:03 AM
3

Then when the lies are eventually found out and the relationship ends: "Why did that insecure asshole break up with me when he found out that I lied to him about something that would have made him never date me in the first place if I'd told the truth?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:32 AM
2

What exact height is "what a fully grown woman usually is"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 09:55 PM
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I'm a guy, so of course I've done this. Women don't take sexual rejection well at all, and it's easy to fake an orgasm with a condom on and throw it away without her looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:58 PM
2

Are those stats from the jurisdictions where female-on-male rape literally isn't a crime in their legal system? Like how rape can only be committed by a man in UK law, and it's literally impossible for any woman to be prosecuted for raping a man or another woman? https://www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/sexual-offences#:~:text=Legally%2C%20a%20person%20without%20a,body%20or%20with%20an%20object. A rape is when a person uses their penis without consent to penetrate the vagina, mouth, or anus of another …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:47 PM
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I'm not making an argument. I'm pointing out how eager you are to depict grown women as children. Can you tell me what height a woman has to be to no longer have "a child's body"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:39 PM
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What's "small enough to pass as a child's body" when half the adult women in the world are under 5'3"? Are porn directors hiring 3 foot tall women? Or are you just trying to infantilize the majority of women outside the tall minority by calling them children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:58 PM
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The average height of an adult woman worldwide is 5 foot 3. That's average height, as in half of the adult women in the world are shorter than that. What's a "small 18 year old"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:47 PM
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Ah yes, do hard work on a dating site or at a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:58 PM
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The fact that you even need to ask that question just proves my point. I'm talking a genuine catch. Someone who just wants a friend to spend his life with and doesn't fit into whatever 'incel pretending to be nice' image you're thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:46 PM
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Women don't like nice guys because they've been hearing all their lives how "all guys are misogynistic sex-obsessed assholes", so that's what they expect and that's what they seek out. When they see a genuinely nice guy they just assume he's a misogynistic sex-obsessed asshole that's only pretending to be nice, so they trash him and go for the misogynistic sex-obsessed assholes that are overt about it. It's why all the women-oriented media is "I tamed the bad boy", not "I found a nice guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:35 PM
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So basically Taylor Swift less the height. Do you know just how many women out there fit this profile? A lot of women have no curves. Saying that men should purposely shun them to go chase T&A just objectifies women with curves even more. Why are you pushing so hard to reduce women to just their bodies and regress to 1950s style stereotypical beauty standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:43 AM
1

It's definitely a problem because anyone who prefers tall people has definitely been molested as a child and liked it. 100% indisputable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:37 AM
1

I'll leave you to your obvious confusion then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:57 PM
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I suppose this is why women famously go after short guys and don't like tall ones. Because there are no hard requirements at all, right? After all, you're speaking from a position of such expertise the world must definitely match your statements. There's no chance at all you're being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:56 PM
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See, everyone here knows you're lying. We can go to places like twox or literally any other woman-centric subreddit and see ourselves how you're lying, yet you continue to lie about this. What exactly are you hoping to achieve with this weak gaslighting attempt?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:41 PM
2

I didn't say every man was. I said if every man came out with hard requirements like that women wouldn't react anywhere near as nicely as men have reacted to hearing their hard requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:40 PM
0

Then you're hopelessly naive. Listen to what's said about those guys when they're not around, or about them online. Women are indirect, and usually share their true feelings when it's in a setting where they can dogpile someone with their friends instead of getting into direct conflicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:22 PM
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If every guy out there came out and said he wanted a nice slim 5'7" woman with great legs and a pretty face he'd be called far, far worse than 'shallow' by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:16 PM
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I've slept with a fat girl before, from when she was 22 to 25, and I've been in a relationship with a fit woman for the past 13 years who's currently 45. I'd take the fit 50 year old in this scenario easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:21 PM
3

In a lot of places if you live with your partner for more than two years the government automatically considers you in a common-law marriage and you start splitting ownership of assets. It's done that way to prevent exactly this sort of exploitation of the (usually female) partner that doesn't own the property.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:30 PM
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High school students are girls, not women. I'm saying you're not very experienced with women if you've never seen this happen with them and a guy they all want. I suppose you think no women never seek out married men for any reason, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:07 PM
2

So what happens when a self-assured younger woman actively goes after a guy she wants because he's more impressive to her than guys her age? Musicians, athletes, higher level business people, professors, etc. Is she being abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:04 PM
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Really doesn't seem that way if you've never seen women competing for a guy they all want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:00 PM
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Have you ever met a woman in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:49 PM
1

You're just reinforcing my point. Of course a divorced woman is less likely to remarry when she has all the income and resources she had as a married woman provided to her due to the divorce. The divorced man who has to pay for it all is the one who needs a partner's help to survive under the conditions the courts impose. A divorce is a jump forward to retirement for women. For men it's being reduced to the income of a 25 year old single father.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:56 PM
7

Assume a child free couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:53 PM
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Because they benefit from divorce far more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:52 PM
3

My girlfriend's parents live on opposite sides of the planet and haven't spoken to each other in 30 years. They're still married though. Is that the kind of longevity you're looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:49 PM
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There's an influx of single motherhood due to women not exercising any of the multiple birth control options they have for whatever reason when they know the guy they're with doesn't want a kid. Religion, trying to trap a guy, peer pressure, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:48 PM
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You're indulging in the fallacy of assuming all men want casual sex. That's not the case at all. There's nothing that says these guys would choose to do that even if they'd never played a game in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:32 AM
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This explains why lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic violence of any pairing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:21 PM
1

What if they don't misrepresent their intentions? When both parties come out from the beginning saying they're only interested in sex, how is one 'using' the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:48 AM
7

I never thought I'd see an actual example of "double plus ungood" in real life, but here we are. Do kids not read "1984" in school anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:32 AM
2

I think the Andrew Tate worship is just people drawing attention to how absurd the left's obsession with defending islam is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:44 PM
2

It's not a lie: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-january-14-2019-1.4976950/polygamy-is-happening-in-canada-s-muslim-community-but-convictions-are-rare-says-reporter-1.4976984 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/polygamy-canadian-muslim-community-1.4971971 These examples are from Canada, where it's literally a crime. In the countries where it's legal it's far more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:33 PM
1

Women without money or status or education who also immigrate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:10 PM
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People are less religious than ever before. This will change over time though. The governments in the west are importing lots of religious folks from third world countries, and they have large age gaps as the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:31 PM
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You being faced with your own disingenuous question and not having an answer doesn't really reflect on anything I'm doing. You should post a thread seeking answers from women only about what an older woman has to offer besides money that a woman 15 years younger doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:55 PM
1

No man deliberately chooses to have kids with a fling only to run off cackling and twirling his moustache. The almost certain sequence of events is that he had a one night stand or a fling with a woman he would sleep with but not date, she tried to baby trap him to get him to stay, amd when he didn't she went around destroying his reputation by omitting the fact that she tried to baby trap him and claiming that he's some villainous predator for not sticking around after she chose to get pregnant…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:12 PM
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If your partner intentionally goes off birth control without your knowledge they're choosing to intentionally have a child against your will. Your only option in that case if you don't want to be locked into a life you don't want is to leave and pay child support. Your only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:32 PM
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But I'm not the one asking the question. You are. I'm simply asking women exactly what you're asking men. Why are you so offended by your own question? And I'm not asking what they offer in a vacuum. Like you, I'm asking what they offer that women 15 years younger don't also offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:31 PM
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You seem to be the only one acting hostile and demanding here. In fact the opening statement in this very thread can be directed towards women the same age as these men. What do they offer that a woman 15 years younger can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:15 AM
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Trusting your partner to stay on the pill and not lie to you is selfish? If a guy stealths a woman in an anti-abortion state, do you feel the same way about the woman that trusted him to wear a condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:18 AM
1

Okay, but how does that actually provide any information to you about this topic? You should be asking the young women that seek out these men why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:02 AM
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Why are you looking for answers only from men and not from the younger women actively pursuing these men? You'd get better answers from men about what an older woman has to offer except money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:58 PM
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