FrontierPsycho Archive

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1	women, Please list 5 positive attributes of your male SO and 5 flaws I only reacted to my incorrect impression that this person didn't want to pay taxes at all while they were being paid behind his back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/18 08:02 AM
3	women, Please list 5 positive attributes of your male SO and 5 flaws Yeah, I think my days of looking for logic here have come to an end :-P	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/18 05:39 PM
3	women, Please list 5 positive attributes of your male SO and 5 flaws Okay, that's a fair point. Heh, doing his taxes without his knowledge sounds like a time bomb, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/18 05:32 PM
14	women, Please list 5 positive attributes of your male SO and 5 flaws How does this person listen to communist podcasts but avoids taxes? How does he reconcile the two?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/18 05:28 PM
2	Q4All: How to be more dominant and interesting in a relationship? Unfortunately some people have a lower sex drive than others. Is it the case that you are unsatisfied with the amount of sex in your life? Ie, you want to have sex more often than her but she doesn't want to? My advice is: ditch dominance. Consider how much pleasure she gets, and try to treat her every now and then, focus on her a lot (if she wants to). Perhaps she'll like it, and see sex as something she wants more often. On the other hand, you also have to be prepared for the possibility that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/18 09:02 PM
3	Why do many people (mostly women) not seem to understand that a man doesn't want to raise another man's child. In that case, the problem is the infidelity. A man might get together with a woman who already has a very small child, and they might raise it together. There are men who wouldn't have a problem with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/18 06:10 AM
-3	Why do many people (mostly women) not seem to understand that a man doesn't want to raise another man's child. Why do many people think that everybody else wants the same as they do? There are men who don't mind raising another man's child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/18 05:03 PM
1	Feminism and motherhood are still at odds I was under the impression it was more respectable than that. Thanks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/18 05:52 AM
1	Henry Cavill says he's worried he'll be called a rapist for approaching women because of #MeToo, and then has to apologise Sorry, btw, I was being ironic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/18 01:16 PM
2	[Q4All] [NSFW] Is there anything wrong with a topless father-daughter discussion like this? Perhaps regular people go to nudist beaches and get naked because there they expect people to be more body positive and not berate them like you do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/18 08:46 PM
1	Q4Men: Do you maintain friendships with women only to bang her or her friends? Absolutely not. I maintain friendships with people I like. Some of them are women. I am friends with people who understand me, my humour, who share my values, and so on. So that's why I am friends with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/18 08:38 PM
10	Feminism and motherhood are still at odds I live in Sweden, and the excerpt of the article makes me very very skeptical about its claims. First, the anecdote about the woman who was berated about having her 2 year old in the park. It is an anecdote that seems to imply that it exemplifies a general sentiment in the country. I see women with children outside during working hours often, and I've never heard anyone get berated for it. I firmly believe that most Swedish women would find that event as extraordinary as the article writer. Not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/18 08:32 PM
4	Henry Cavill says he's worried he'll be called a rapist for approaching women because of #MeToo, and then has to apologise Hard data, right there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/18 08:09 PM
1	Is it wrong for a short guy to approach a tall woman? I bet there's misrepresented studies about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/18 09:09 AM
4	Is it wrong for a short guy to approach a tall woman? No, they don't. Quite a lot do. Definitely most of them, even. But also, people have complicated preferences: they might like and value many different things at the same time. Just because tall and physically dominant is the most popular doesn't mean anything for this specific woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/18 06:41 AM
0	Is it wrong for a short guy to approach a tall woman? If I understood you correctly, you said that since her preference is to not like shorter men, it would be unreasonable to consider her crazy for rejecting a shorter man. My comment was a response to that. Did I misunderstand your comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/18 02:05 PM
2	Is it wrong for a short guy to approach a tall woman? How do you know her preferences? Perhaps her preferences are "someone who can tell a good dad joke" which is orthogonal to height.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/18 01:52 PM
1	Q4ALL: What does everyone think about polyamory? Which one are you asking about? Polyamory means you accept that your partners meeting other people too, barring exceptional circumstances and special arrangements. Anything else is unfair. Also, what's worth considering differs between people. I wouldn't even consider your suggestion, for example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/18 09:51 PM
1	Q4ALL: What does everyone think about polyamory? That is not polyamory. Also you're generalizing awfully.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/18 11:37 AM
1	Q4ALL: What does everyone think about polyamory? That sounds awfully prescriptive for a therapist. Were they talking about you or people in general?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/18 11:37 AM
1	Q4ALL: What does everyone think about polyamory? Never thought I'd say something like that, but I completely agree, dicklord, airplane! :-P	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/18 11:35 AM
1	Q4ALL: What does everyone think about polyamory? I'm polyamorous. The most important thing that polyamory adds over "casual dating", "fuck buddies" etc., is that those terms imply that the relationships in question are frivolous in some way. That is, you're waiting for the real relationship to come along, and in the meantime you're just having fun, without attachment. Also, they're usually mostly sexual in nature. In polyamorous relationships, on one hand, as you said, the emotional element is added, but also, relationships, even though parall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/18 08:09 AM
8	Single Motherhood is one of the worst things to happen to society. They're obese because they're poor and crappy food is the cheapest to eat, the easiest to obtain and the fastest to consume.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/18 07:39 PM
6	CMV: Men want women that are masculine brained but have a hyperfeminine appearance. View successfully challenged.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/18 04:06 PM
0	Blue pillers often say traditional measures masculinity of masculinity are toxic but their go to ways of insulting people are traditional measures of masculinity. Yup, it does defeat the purpose. That's why many people on this side criticize it and don't do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/18 07:48 PM
1	CMV - Open relationships are always a raw deal for a dude That's a sad situation, I'm sorry. He should have been more careful to not do things you weren't okay with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/18 11:41 AM
3	CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid. Now that's funny. You didn't make any jokes, for me to exhibit my lack of sense of humour. I think you chose the wrong stock response. Care to give it another shot?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/18 11:01 PM
3	CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid. Offensive people without senses of empathy cannot see that offensive or insulting viewpoints are not funny. This statement about male sexual is a gross simplification. Male sexual desire, just like female sexual desire, can exist on many levels, for many reasons. Sexual desire can be any amount of visual, and even if it's visual, it can still be done with respect. Just because you've found a reason to explain to yourself why you can forego respect doesn't mean other people can't be respectful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/18 10:49 PM
1	What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women? No, I meant that you can't win neither as a man or as a woman. And to be honest, I was being dramatic. You can win if you find people who don't think like that. Who won't criticize you as a man if you choose to spend time with your kids. Or who won't criticize you as a woman if you don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/18 08:53 PM
2	What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women? Well, you seem to be talking about a specific case, heh. In specific cases, a lot can happen that isn't necessarily common. Tough situation, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/18 08:51 PM
12	CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid. As a man (and a feminist), I don't think so. Male sexual desire that only proposes and doesn't push, that seeks reciprocity or even simply responds to female interest, is not vilified by feminism. Respect is not vilified. I think the issue with your post is vagueness. You write: "one joke too many and you're cringe". It really depends on what kind of jokes you make. Sexist, insulting ones will often get you a cringe. They give away what you think about sexual relationships on the inside. The thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/18 06:06 PM
2	What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women? What? Who?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/18 04:52 PM
1	What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women? Dunno, depends on the job. If you make a lot more money than your family can spend, by having a job that takes you away from them most of the time, I'd be unhappy too. Also, not sure about how often what you say happens. I can imagine that a lot of wives supported by their husband's salaries will be grateful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/18 04:52 PM
7	What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women? An instance where sexism hurts both sexes. A father is more often expected to spend time away from his kids, making money to support the family. A mother who chooses to do the same, is also criticized. You can't win.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/18 08:26 AM
1	Q4ALL: Would you call yourself "sex-positive"? Why or why not? Yes. I believe in all of these things. I think we would have a much healthier relationship to our bodies and to sexuality if we were more sex positive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/18 01:20 PM
1	Q4ALL: Would you call yourself "sex-positive"? Why or why not? This is not why we fought the Cold War. Definitely not. This is completely unrelated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/18 01:18 PM
2	Why A Woman's Sexual Past Matters Mostly the second. He can dislike sluts all he likes, as long as he doesn't try to pass it as objective truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/18 10:15 PM
12	Why A Woman's Sexual Past Matters Oh, I'm a sex positive man and would definitely shame you for this "analysis". It is based on a bunch of arbitrary value judgements that are very subjective, and boil down to the aforementioned "sluts are nasty", which is definitely not an objective fact, just your own, I presume, gut response to sluts. Sure, it's widespread, but that doesn't give it any concrete validity. There's no objective way to convince me that sluts are inherently nasty or that promiscuity is inherently bad. And please st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/18 12:14 PM
2	Q4BP: Do you think that women are inherently more moral than men? No, I don't think women are more moral than men. I don't see a reason for there to be a difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/18 06:40 PM
1	Being Anti-Blue Pill is not being Anti-Women. It is the Blue Pill which harms men. Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/18 11:36 AM
2	Being Anti-Blue Pill is not being Anti-Women. It is the Blue Pill which harms men. This. All of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/18 06:59 PM
1	Being Anti-Blue Pill is not being Anti-Women. It is the Blue Pill which harms men. Why do you assume feminists are women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/18 06:59 PM
5	CMV: Overt kindness in men is not attractive because it embodies feminine nature. I am a very kind man, and my partner would not have me otherwise. In fact, I wouldn't have her, if she wanted me to be less kind. "Women" aren't a uniform body, and none of this is written in stone. In my extended circle of friends and acquaintances, a significant portion is like us. I know it's not that common, but the point is: you can't make generalizations like your view does. There's many different kinds of people with different tastes and values. If you and your people are like what you de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/18 08:00 PM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation What are you talking about? Where is the trick? For me this entire issue is about feelings, which is evident when I say: Recreational divorce? Do you think that people dissolve their marriages for the lulz or something? As opposed to what? Staying in unhappy relationships for the rest of your life, growing bitter and resentful? You seem to care more about the vows, so we fundamentally disagree. But there's no trick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/18 09:27 AM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation I would beg to differ. You began really early on by saying "life is as unhappy as you let it be". That's the whole reason I went on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/18 06:50 AM
2	There is nothing wrong with manipulation Uhm, no, I'm not going to engage with that if you're not going to engage with my wall of text, thank you very much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/18 11:26 PM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation I don't care what the vows say, though. I think the whole idea is outdated. You're basically rules lawyering marriage: "it says here it's forever!". I'm saying: okay, the vows may say that. Why is that more important than people being happy? I don't accept that, because it makes a lot of people miserable. The vows represent a worldview and an opinion i reject, so no amount of reminding me the vows will convince me. What I would like to hear is: why do you think it's so important that people stay…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/18 11:24 PM
2	There is nothing wrong with manipulation I don't see why they're awful. Definitions are hard, and it's all subjective, but I think you understand the difference between any old action that has an effect on others (ie, any action), and one that is defined as being done with malicious or egotistical intent. Furthermore, I think it would be pretty easy for you to defend manipulation, but you'd probably only convince yourself, not me. That second part is conjecture, of course, but so was your statement. You see where I'm going with this. S…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/18 01:21 PM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation No, I'm not. Human agency doesn't have complete control over feelings. Also, feelings are the goal here, if it doesn't ultimately make you feel good, what's the point? Also, how am I ignoring that marriage takes work? I earlier wrote "even after a few years of trying". If you try to make a marriage work for years, and it still doesn't, I'd say you tried enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/18 10:40 AM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation We are, though. You said life is as unhappy as you let it be. I think being unhappy is cause enough to end a marriage. What else should we be talking about?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/18 01:09 AM
3	There is nothing wrong with manipulation You're defining manipulation as "any action that affects other people". That's not what manipulation means. Even looking at Merriam Webster online (and excluding literal meanings), you get: to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage Once you see that actions are varied in intent, you see that there can be actions that are honest and genuine. Then you can also separate those from manipulation, which is often egoistic and insidious. It's treatin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/18 10:13 PM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation Oh yeah, if you define traditional marriage based on that, I would say it makes no sense. That's directly what I'm saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/18 09:58 PM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation a) how? I think marriage makes sense as long as it does, and I think many marriages are good up to a point. That can last the spouses' entire lives, or a shorter time. b) even if it means traditional marriage doesn't make sense, how is that a valid reason not to agree? Why does traditional marriage have to make sense no matter what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/18 12:24 PM
1	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation Saying that marriage should be terminated only by either abuse or cheating, is, to me, a huge simplification of how people's feeling work. Marriage definitely is work, I don't disagree at all. And sometimes that work feels worth it, because the marriage makes you happy, or gives you comfort, or safety, or whatever you feel you need. And other times, even though you work on it, you feel hollow, or resentful, and unhappy. You seem to imagine that in the second case, you can always "work on it" and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/18 08:14 AM
8	The failure of traditional courtship in the #metoo era proves why prostitution is the best system for sex and intimacy allocation Recreational divorce? Do you think that people dissolve their marriages for the lulz or something? As opposed to what? Staying in unhappy relationships for the rest of your life, growing bitter and resentful?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/18 05:56 PM
1	Encouraging men to be more open about their feelings As always, I would not say something about all millennials. There sure are some people who like those as well, and I think, as I said, that it's an increasing number.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/18 07:58 PM
1	Encouraging men to be more open about their feelings I'm confused. What are you asking or saying?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/18 07:13 PM
2	Encouraging men to be more open about their feelings I should start by saying I agree with the comic. I disagree with you in a few points: sure, to many women's eyes, being less toxicly masculine will make them like you less. They have grown up with the same stereotypes, they've been told the same things about men, they've seen their mothers tell their fathers to toughen up and so on. But not everyone is like that: many women will appreciate you being more aware and accepting of your feelings. It's probably not a majority, but they're not few. Wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/18 07:34 AM
1	Encouraging men to be more open about their feelings As a feminist, and briggen surrounded by feminists, I've seen many people in loving relationships being tender to each other, saying I love you, even being angry, without it breaking the relationship. Also, even though I think it's in poor taste, the Male Tears joke isn't meant to make fun of men being vulnerable. It's made to disparage men who ask us to sympathize with them for losing the effects of patriarchy, for example that their word isn't the final word at home, etc. Not sure what you mea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/18 07:24 AM
1	CMV: If every variation of "that won't work on everyone" is removed from debate. TRP is iron clad. Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that, though. I think sometimes red pillers in general are alone, and then TRP is offering them an explanation that provides the comfort I described above. Not sure how it comes out that I mean that the people who formulated it were alone, but that wasn't what I meant to say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/18 07:26 AM
1	CMV: If every variation of "that won't work on everyone" is removed from debate. TRP is iron clad. Well, alright then. Thank you for recognizing it as such! To be exact, I don't believe it's "rational choice of completely free will". People's motivations can come from feelings, rational or irrational ideas or whatever else. I just think people's feelings are complicated and trying to explain them with the simple narratives of TRP is just a way for its proponents to feel safe by giving them the illusion that they can easily explain people's behaviour and their own lack of partner. Bitterness, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/18 04:05 PM
1	CMV: If every variation of "that won't work on everyone" is removed from debate. TRP is iron clad. It's not about whether things "work" on everyone or not. The way TRP approaches the sexes and people's motivations is toxic and wrong. It interprets people's actions from a toxic point of view that ignores what people feel and what their actual motivations are (even though some times they coincide with what TRP says they are) and instead paints everyone in a childish, malicious light that is damaging to those who believe it. Whether or not a red piller thinks "it works" is irrelevant to me, as e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/18 02:53 PM
3	Why do men react better when I'm a bitch? There are men out there who would respond well to you being sweet and caring. Do you really like the people who respond to you being a bitch, like you say? I guess a related and important question is: what do you want to be like in your relationship? If you want to be sweet, you should be clear about it and then only people who like that will stick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/18 09:42 AM
1	CMV: Most reds here believe Men are Magnificent and Betas are Better. What is there to challenge, you're right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/18 03:23 PM
2	CMV: dual-income couples should split the expenses 50/50 In my household (even though we're not married, because we don't want to at this point), we share groceries etc about 50/50 (I pay a bit more because I consume more expensive stuff, like meat), but I make a non negligible amount more money, so we split the rent according to our salary ratio. That mainly comes from both of us agreeing that me making more money is more the result of patriarchal norms, and the inequities of capitalism, rather than me deserving that much more or working that much ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/17 12:47 PM
1	CMV: Male cheating is worse and more hypocritical than female cheating Thank you. You explained TRP simply and accurately, in my view.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/17 08:35 PM
1	Q4MEN: Would you rather have a stereotypically feminine or a stereotypically masculine woman? Both of those people are uninteresting to me. I want a woman who is both cute and lifts weights, who has perhaps studied computer engineering (although that doesn't matter much, just picking from what you said) but isn't competitive, especially about meaningless things, who has compatible morals to myself and who is smart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/17 09:13 PM
1	What is your opinion on asexuality [AskTRP] Of course I believe in asexuality. To feel that asexual people would be elevated in society because they can't be lured or corrupted by sex, I'd have to think that sex is only to lure or corrupt people, while I think it's a means of pleasure and communication.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/17 05:23 AM
0	What is your opinion on asexuality [AskTRP] I don't think the point of the sub is sexual strategy. That's TRP. Here TRP and those who disagree with its worldview debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/17 05:19 AM
4	[Q4A] Creepy or BP Failure? That guy didn't "follow BP rules". When the other person said she's seeing somebody else, he became passive aggressive and subtly insulted her, by implying her behaviour is slutty and reprehensible. I also want to note that I don't think sluttiness or promiscuity are reprehensible, but this person seems to think so, I'd say. All in all, I don't think anything was proven here besides the fact that this guy felt hurt and sad by that girl not liking him, and tried to pass it as a sign of the times …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/17 12:35 PM
2	When you learn that a guy you know is pursuing a girl way out of his league, do you judge him for it? Personally I don't think much of this league business. Sometimes people who are considered hot just like people who aren't, because the "scales" are based on what's most popular, but that specific person might have different tastes. Just pursue whoever you like, and if they like you back then you have no reason to think anything about leagues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/17 10:00 PM
1	Discussion: Why do all the men on PPD seem to have such a negative attitude toward women? I don't. I consider women completely equal to men, and treat them as such, while also trying to recognize the different stereotypes that have plagued us both. I think TRP is built around ideas of inferior women, so it's only natural that they express negative views about women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/17 11:51 PM
2	Discussion for all: Would you allow yourself to become an ONS or a "plate"? I don't think a ONS is insulting, if it's a conscious choice by consenting adults, who happened to be in a situation where sex felt like it would be a fun thing to do. I'd have a ONS if it felt good with someone. Especially someone I met in circumstances that couldn't repeat themselves, like a trip, a visit or something like that. I don't know much about being a plate, and I'm polyamorous, so I don't mind people being with other people while they are also seeing me, as long as they are open and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/17 05:19 PM
1	I pity men who insist on always paying I'm a man, and I'm completely with you. There should be no connection between sex and who pays the bill. On the other hand, why do you pity them? To me their behaviour seem cringey and somewhat obnoxious, but I don't pity them. I'm asking to perhaps understand a reasoning I hadn't thought of. I let people treat me, although it doesn't happen very often because I am often better paid than the people close to me, and it's a shame to let them spend on my behalf. My default setting is that everyone …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/17 01:48 PM
1	CMV: Consent awareness campaigns are important because most rapists don't think that they are rapists. Well, when you say "feminism does" (which you did in this thread) and so on, it's good to make the distinction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/17 09:33 AM
3	CMV: Consent awareness campaigns are important because most rapists don't think that they are rapists. In my social circle (where most everyone is a feminist) this was debated. Some people did say that. Others thought it was wrong (me included). So, feminism doesn't unanimously say that. And no, I'm not trying to say #notallfeminists or something, implying that the people who said this are bad feminists or whatever. I do think some people misunderstand feminism and say things that paint it badly, but in this case I think it's actually very debatable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/17 03:31 PM
1	Q4Men: do you hate monogamy and long for polygyny? Do men resent having only one partner? Well, the entire polyamorous community is built on the idea, and it seems to work. It works for me anyway. Notice, though, that I didn't mention time, that one is limited, but people make it work in various ways. Some don't need that much time together because they need a lot of time alone. Others spend time with multiple partners at the same time if possible. Others just plan meticulously so that they have as much time with partners as possible. But it's all based on the idea that you can love …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/17 07:11 AM
1	People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed? How clever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/17 07:07 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? It really isn't, though. It's a movement that works against oppression of many kinds. I'm a man, and a feminist, it's definitely a movement for me too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/17 07:07 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? No, I'm just trying to describe a different view of the world, which I'm experiencing. Don't tell me what I care about, man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/17 07:04 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? Feminism has always criticized the narrative of the damsel in distress, you cannot say what it is the embodiment of it. What male issues does feminism bash?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 08:01 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? Sure, it won't get you laid. But being a person who can connect emotionally and with honesty, might help meeting people that you genuinely like. It might not happen, sure. But what is the alternative? Tricking and manipulating people into sex? Isn't that hollow?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 07:57 AM
1	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? On one hand, you're right that the arguments I've talked about are somewhat optimistic, and I realize that unfortunately, some people will still be unlucky enough that finding people to have sex with will be hard for them. My hope is that we gradually move away from pure lookism, that as you said Tinder promotes for example. On the other hand, I do think that becoming more empathetic, can help people form better connections, and feel better. I also see it as essential, to avoid being hurtful and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 07:54 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? Manipulation isn't empathy. Giving someone else "what they want" is only one tactic of manipulation, and it's not given because you care about or understand the other person. And it leads to an exchange where the other person gives you back, on false premises (since, if you're manipulating them, you're obviously only giving them what they want to get something back). But most importantly, doesn't manipulation make the things they give you, hollow? Even though they don't know that, you know that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 07:45 AM
1	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? I'm really sorry this has been your experience. Believing that all women find you disgusting and dangerous must be hard. That's not what I see around me, as a feminist. I see women who have and are been treated badly, lashing out and speaking out. I sincerely hope you'll find people to love you, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 07:38 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? Why is that a problem? It mostly matters if they're taught by competent people, who also don't try to force them into gender stereotypes, regardless of their gender. And yes, I really believe this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 07:23 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? "Women" are not attracted to anything universally. Also, you're kidding yourself if you believe any significant amount of people is "attracted to dishonesty". People want someone to make them feel good, mostly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 07:03 AM
2	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? It's traditional gender stereotypes that shame men for feeling pain. Feminism doesn't reinforce that. People might still do that sometimes, and they're wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/17 06:56 AM
1	Discussion: Women in computer science Great writeup, thanks! And thanks for the links to the articles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 10:30 PM
4	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? I'm sorry you feel that way. It has been that way for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 10:27 PM
4	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? You're exaggerating. Lots of people care. Feminism, cares, even, but in ways that aren't compatible with male stereotypes, and this its help is discarded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 10:26 PM
4	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? I can understand it to an extent, but I think there is a clear solution. The solution is to become more empathetic, to reject the notions that ask you to become a douchebag, and to treat people (women included) as complete human beings with desires and insecurities, and to listen to what they have to say. The solution is to understand that the stereotypes that tell you what "a man" should be like are outdated and oppressive, and you should reject them, and anyone who forces them upon you. The so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 10:25 PM
6	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? As I was saying in another thread around here, I care about those men's plight. I think a lot of people do. But caring about their plight, is not the same as justifying their methods and their worldview. In fact, I still care about their plight, and think their methods and worldview are damaging both to themselves and the women they target. My way of helping men who are frustrated by the lack of the sexual life they crave, would be mostly feminism. If they treat women as full human beings, with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 09:48 PM
3	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? When reading about TRP, I keep reading about women being stereotyped and vilified, and treated as less than, or treated as children who have to be manipulated. Also, dishonesty is advocated by the entire PUA culture, which unless I'm really misled, is very connected to TRP. The same causes men to harass women, by trying to manipulate them, by treating them as solely sexual objects etc. This is a short writeup, but I hope it gets my point across.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 09:40 PM
7	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? I didn't get the distinction between your two options. I don't think douchebaggery and dishonesty are justified, especially in sex and dating. How is it not obviously desirable to have a voluntary, honest exchange with anyone you are sexually or romantically involved with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 09:34 PM
5	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? Many of the problems that feminism highlights, even though they aren't devised by most men (but rather by a system of thinking and perpetuating stereotypes), they are actually enacted by men. It makes a lot of sense that men should understand how they are oppressing, and stop doing it. It's not about helping other people with their problems, it's more about realizing how men contribute to other people's problems, and stopping to do so. As for men's problems: feminism is concerned with many of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 09:31 PM
10	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? I don't think feminism is dishonest, or actually demonizing. I do think that some feminists either miss the subtleties or are not careful, and do end up demonizing and antagonizing men to an extent. That isn't to say there isn't quite a lot of valid criticism of men in general that comes from feminism, though. I guess if you're not prepared to hear it, you'd take all of it as demonizing. Besides that, though, I really don't think it follows from anything feminism says that men should game women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 09:25 PM
1	[Question For All] Are You Not Aware of Red Pills Value? Hm, it sure is. I just didn't really see that as a central tenet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 09:17 PM
2	How does "the Patriarchy" hurt men and how are feminists trying to help men by eliminating it? As a man, I completely disagree. It's hard to quantify how it helps, and also, it is just beginning. Yes, it started in the 90s, but until most men grow up with at least some semblance of rejection of traditional make stereotypes, it's not going to be prevalent, simply because there's too many of us who grew up before (or during) that time and we have the old stereotypes internalized. But it helps a lot. The most important way it helps is that it makes relationships better: if you feel more free…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 07:42 PM
9	QForRPMen: what is supposed to happen if people start to care about or understand the male “problems” in the sexual marketplace? I'm a man, I'm staunchly against TRP and all of its ideas, but I do care about the problems many men face with their sexual life. It's very hard to see that people care, on a societal level. Also, it doesn't help when the people who have these problems, start devising "solutions" and worldviews that are degrading to women, and which advocate dishonesty, douchebaggery, and sexual harassment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:40 PM
2	Q4Men: do you hate monogamy and long for polygyny? Do men resent having only one partner? Oh, I'm pretty sure many cheaters are selfish and dishonest and want to have their cake and eat it too. And then there are people who are non monogamous, which is not the same thing. But we can only know how many they are if we don't heavily discourage and criticize it. Embracing non monogamy means you recognize that you can feel attraction or love for one person without it detracting from the love or attraction you feel about other people, btw. Not controlling yourself doesn't qualify as non mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:34 PM
1	What women want in their romantic relationships with men. I'm a man, but I feel that most people of any gender want these things out of a relationship. Funny thing, though: just by reading the lines you quoted, my immediate thought was that she wants those things from her partner, rather that in her partner. Ie that she wants a partner that trusts her, that lusts for her, etc. Could just be me, though, haven't read the rest of the lyrics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:29 PM
1	People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed? The concept is needed because if it's true, our culture encourages men to be disrespectful, dismissive, unpleasant and even dangerous towards women, and to stifle their own feelings, and the parts of themselves that don't agree with the norm, making them more emotionally numb and unhappy. It's needed because if all of the above is true, we really need to dissect the phenomenon, explain it, and find ways for people to break out of it. I believe it's true, so for me it's really important that we t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:26 PM
2	Q4Men: do you hate monogamy and long for polygyny? Do men resent having only one partner? Because anyone who doesn't fit the norm (ie isn't monogamous in this case), and isn't sure enough about it (or bold enough) to break out of it, will live a life with problems that would have been avoided if they were encouraged to embrace who they are. For example, some people who cheat (some, not all), are probably non monogamous, and trying to fit into a mould that doesn't suit them. They're hurting their partners and themselves by not embracing who they are. I believe this is how it works for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:22 PM
1	[Question For All] Are You Not Aware of Red Pills Value? You're committing a "no true Scotsman" fallacy. You pick out all the parts of TRP that make sense to you and declare the rest non-TRP, and shit. Even though I haven't read so much on TRP, it seems to have a lot more ideas to it, and a lot of it is insulting to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:04 PM
2	Q4Men: do you hate monogamy and long for polygyny? Do men resent having only one partner? I'm a man, and polyamorous. I'd like to have more than one relationship if I happen to find multiple people to love, and I'm completely fine with them having other relationships as well. Anything else would be dishonest, unfair and childish of me. On the other hand, not every man hates monogamy. I know monogamous people who feel comfortable being in one relationship, feeling jealous and having their partner feel jealous and protective of them, too. So, my answer is: men fall in a spectrum. I bel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 06:01 PM
8	Is women's growing sexual freedom positive or negative for humanity? I completely agree with you, it's definitely positive. I shudder at the thought of people believing in the arguments you quoted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/17 05:47 PM
1	The SMP does not include every living person in a given region You're basically, again, saying "look, there's exceptions, but most people believe in the SMV, so we can ignore the rest". What I'm saying is, first, the exceptions you think are rare, are far from it. Being a nerd, which I saw mentioned as a -1 in SMV is a group that has become large and is getting larger. Quite a lot of nerds think being a nerd is a plus. Also, LGTBQ people often have completely different criteria for attraction, and these are a non-negligible amount of the population (I'm see…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/17 09:34 AM
1	The SMP does not include every living person in a given region Mostly that I think it relies on two interconnected notions that are false, in my opinion: that attractiveness is more or less objective, and also that it is based on distinct elements of someone's body or personality that one can quantify and rank. For example, if I look up SMV, I see elements like height, or age, or style. There are statements like, a tall man is attractive, or an old man is not. A businessman is attractive, a nerd is not. All of these things are highly subjective, and are ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 11:30 PM
2	The SMP does not include every living person in a given region As a poly person who doesn't believe in the SMP, I'm curious why you say poly people are outside it. How does it work for them (us) in your view?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 06:05 PM
0	The SMP does not include every living person in a given region Your final statement doesn't make you less mean, I'm not sure how you thought that would work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 06:03 PM
3	CMV: When a woman suddenly employs a vetting process, it indicates a terrible investment for men I think you're generalizing what happened to you and your interpretation of it into a grand rule about how all relationships work. You don't need to do that. People work in different ways. Perhaps there are people who actually engage in the male and female strategies you describe, but there's also people who feel very differently about this. For example, there's men who would also not have sex on first dates because they'd like to get a feel of the other person and how much they want them. Or me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/17 08:46 PM
1	Let's face it, there is no perfect formula for success in sex/love/relationships Nope. I'm doing just fine. I like how you're trying to make me feel bad, though. Ever think about why you would do that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 11:37 PM
1	Let's face it, there is no perfect formula for success in sex/love/relationships Ah, trying to prove the inexistence of a group with good ol' anecdotal evidence. Well done, you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 03:49 PM
1	Let's face it, there is no perfect formula for success in sex/love/relationships I completely agree with you. You're right. Not only that, but I think the narrative that attributes being single to anything but luck, is linked with an idea that people (especially men in the case of TRP) need to conquer their spouse, as if it's a competition, or a challenge, rather than mutual interest and genuine connection. Because in a competition, you can get better (since it's based on skill). You can also lie to your adversary, as the ultimate goal is to defeat them. It all ties in with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/17 09:45 PM
2	Let's face it, there is no perfect formula for success in sex/love/relationships Yes, but it's still chance, and the result can go either way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/17 09:39 PM
5	Let's face it, there is no perfect formula for success in sex/love/relationships You can affect the odds, but there's always luck remaining. You might only meet people who you don't click with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/17 09:38 PM
1	Why don't red pillers just use normal words? I think that the Red Pill point of view is completely wrong and damaging, but your post makes no sense. You are basically saying that subcultures shouldn't use specialized vocabulary, and basing it on that it sounds strange to you. Well, every subculture has their own vocabulary, because normal terms don't mean what they want to say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/17 07:43 PM
3	If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of? This.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/17 02:57 PM
1	The purge is fantastic if you wish to know which posters are worthless A quality post in a sea of shitposting. Kudos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/17 04:51 PM
1	CMV: Having daughters is the ultimate cuckoldry This is exactly it. And it's so far fetched that I think it's a troll.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/17 10:47 AM
7	Q4All: Masculine women vs. feminine men Well, while we're throwing about our unfounded impressions, I can tell you there's plenty of men who find masculine women unappealing (not me, though). And also, this dramatic illustration of how women don't like feminine men is offensive and most probably inaccurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/17 04:31 PM
1	Do you think men committing more crime = men are more likely to be bad people? I agree with the notion that committing a crime isnt necessarily a bad action, but it's still not a reason to conclude that crime stats are meaningless. Sure, perhaps I can imagine a situation where murder is somewhat reasonable, to an extent, but it's extremely rare. Crime stats about murder are somewhat unambiguous, most murders will be malicious or unjustified. The same goes for enough crimes, that I wouldn't discredit the stats presented in the question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/17 07:53 PM
2	Discussion: "opening up" and loss of women's attraction I think any view of women (or men) as a cohesive group with universal characteristics is nonsense. So, I believe there's women out there who would find you less attractive if you revealed that you're a person, with emotional stuff like everyone else. But I also think there's other kinds of women, who would even be the opposite: they could not come close to you unless you opened up. And of course, many variants in between. I can only form close relationships with people who are closer to the seco…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/17 07:31 AM
1	[Q4ALL]Whats the modern version of Brad Pitt test? This seems more like a TRP thread than a cross-community debate thread. How come it's here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/17 03:45 PM
1	How well does the porn you choose to watch fit with your pill position? How are you disagreeing with me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/17 01:26 PM
11	How well does the porn you choose to watch fit with your pill position? Discovering what you like is fine, but trying to tell other people what the natural order is and what they should or shouldn't like is pure nonsense. Some men and some women like to be dominated. Others don't. It's all acceptable and natural, as long as it happens between consenting adults. The OPs fantasies are perfectly fine, they seem to enjoy them, and that's all that matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/17 11:35 AM
3	Q4MEN After seeing female nature, how do you find yourself loving women differently, if at all? You seem to have serious issues with both self esteem and connection to others :-( Just as a tiny token of how other people live, I only have sex with people I respect and who respect me back. That makes it mutually pleasurable, peaceful and rewarding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/17 12:47 AM
1	Lack of empathy and understanding towards the male experience is part of why guys flock to RP/manosphere. But I talked about this in my reply. I'd rather not waste my life trying to please those people, and find others who will not treat me like that. Sure, it's not as simple as that, but the first step to stop being affected by the people who expect you to be a traditional man, and who will deride you if you're not, is to stop paying attention to them and be however you prefer to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/17 06:04 AM
1	Lack of empathy and understanding towards the male experience is part of why guys flock to RP/manosphere. I disagree with most of the top answers here. In my first contact with feminism, me and my new feminist friends would often talk about how the patriarchy is also bad for men, and that it cares a lot about their troubles, never mind what TRP or MRAs say. For example, you state that men are expected to be stoic and withstand hardships. As a man, I've very often gotten from my feminist friends, the idea that men don't have to be these stoic rocks that can take anything without a blink. They can be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/17 08:25 PM
1	Who benefits from polyamory more, men or women? I can't speak for others, but what I mean is that I think people are compatible in different ways, there is no objective sexual value. The stereotype is that women like big, fit men, but some women like bodybuilders, others don't. Some women like pudgy men with bellies and a big smile. Value is subjective in general, and even more so in relationships and sex. Sure, there's a lot of consensus on how attractive some people are, but it's very far from universal, I think.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/17 05:16 PM
1	Single / teenage motherhood - what is your stance? I really don't, but it feels like one of those things that is extremely tricky to measure. Why do you say that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/17 04:51 PM
1	Who benefits from polyamory more, men or women? You're generalizing. I'm polyamorous myself and I know many people who are poly in my city's community. There's a lot of men who have several partners. It depends on the couple, it's inaccurate to speak about everyone with one sentence. Also, polyamorous people seem, to me, to be more often more holistic in their choice of partners, and not to think of people in terms of SMV which this subreddit seems to love (and which I don't believe in at all).	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/17 11:41 AM
1	Single / teenage motherhood - what is your stance? I don't know any teen moms, no. I also think it's possible for teen moms to be good parents. I just don't believe it's common, for various reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/17 11:25 AM
1	Single / teenage motherhood - what is your stance? Indeed, but I would guess it's hard for them. It all depends on her age, the context, the culture, but I would guess that especially in the early teens, a mother cannot legally work to support herself, and even with the support of her family, she is still young and often in emotional turmoil. Of course, all this gradually disappears as the person gets close to 18-19. But a 14 year old mother? In such a case I would stand by my original statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/17 06:09 PM
1	Single / teenage motherhood - what is your stance? I think teenage parenthood is very difficult and probably bad, because the parent is almost certain to not be able to raise a child, being in a highly unstable period of their life, and also being very likely to have gotten pregnant unintentionally. I don't see why you're putting it together with single parenthood, though. Single parenthood can be many things, but I think it's mostly like couple parenthood, only harder on the parent. It's harder for one person to earn enough to take care of a ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/17 04:58 PM
2	[Q4ALL] What assumptions, if any, do you make when a person says they do not want to be exclusive with you? I'm polyamorous. When someone tells me they don't want to be exclusive with me, I think "phew", because otherwise I wouldn't date them. I fall snugly under the "they have relationship beliefs that are completely different than [yours]" category. I think your categories are somewhat accurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/17 04:51 PM
1	Why Are Weak Men Undesirable? Is this a CMV or what? It seems you're just expounding. I'll treat it as a CMV anyway. I disagree strongly that weak men are undesirable. I'm a weak man myself, just so you know. I'll explain why below. weak men don't value themselves and they dont value anyone else. This seems to be your basic premise, which comes out of nowhere, and I believe is false. The reason, I think, is that you don't really understand weak men. Weak men are a very diverse group that are weak for different reasons. Some …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/17 04:42 PM
1	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? Some of them are cuddly and there are times I might hold their hand, either to greet them, or to console them if they're talking about something sad that happened to them. I more often will give them a hug, but holding hands has happened sometimes as well. Not walking down the street, more like when communicating. Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/17 09:11 PM
1	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? Well, this "every other guy" argument is pretty baseless, really. I'm a guy, I sometimes hold my friends' hand for various reasons, and so do a lot of people I know. They're a minority, sure, but not negligible. Perhaps you want to offer more empirical evidence that I don't exist, and neither do my friends?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/17 07:24 PM
2	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? Yes, I do. Even in monogamy I can see people being okay with displays of friendship, and holding hands occasionally can just be a sign of friendship and nothing more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/17 03:53 AM
1	People are reluctant to accept biological differences between the genders because they don't want people to use them to justify discrimination. How would you address this issue? I feel the same. Basically, a lot of current systems are there to shield privileged people from losing their privilege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:57 PM
2	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? Polyamorous here, there are entire communities of people for whom this (or similar setups) works. I know scores of them. It's all based on consent, honesty and tailoring your relationships to what you want, instead of doing what society prescribes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:56 PM
1	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? It sounds like either a) you're romanticizing polyamory or b) you actually want to explore it but feel intimidated by it. If (b), keep in mind that if you want to, there are books, communities etc. that can help you deal with issues of jealousy and insecurity that come with becoming non monogamous. It might not work for you in the end, but it's worth a shot if you find it intriguing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:52 PM
2	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? What does this even mean? I genuinely don't get it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:48 PM
1	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? I genuinely think all men are different on this. I feel love like you describe, I just think of people I feel it for without having sex, close friends. On the other hand, I don't think I would love any person I'd have sex with. I could have sex just for the pleasure of it, with a person I like, that doesn't mean I love them. There are of course, men that are the way you describe, and it sometimes feels that this subreddit only acknowledges those men, but there are all sorts of men, who interact …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:46 PM
2	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? How about human contact, friendship, empathy, you know, #justhumanthings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:32 PM
2	How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity? I am polyamorous. That means that I want neither emotional nor sexual exclusivity. I want my partners to have the freedom to like and be with anyone they want and can fit into their lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/17 09:28 PM
0	People are reluctant to accept biological differences between the genders because they don't want people to use them to justify discrimination. How would you address this issue? Right, business over everything. Property rules over everything else, fuck lives, fuck empathy, fuck anyone else, money should just rule. Brilliant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/17 06:22 PM
2	On Wedding Costs I'm a person who finds expensive weddings frivolous and silly, but I wouldn't blame women (or call them Bridezilla). I would blame stereotypes, and culture. I actually think it's great if your family and friends offer to help with one's wedding, as long as one doesn't dictate what they do, but they become part of the creative process. And sure, people will need to cooperate to prepare, to clean, and so on, bit I find that kind of beautiful, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/17 03:42 PM
1	CMV: Male sexuality is inherently oppressive. I'm humbled to have helped in softening your opinion. I think it's very important. Thanks for saying this! And thanks for the discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/17 08:48 AM
3	Have you seen other women come to this realization? What provocative horseshit. Feminism doesn't advocate being promiscuous and single forever. That's the stupid, Playboy-style co-opting of feminism (Female Chauvinist Pigs is a nice read to understand this co-opting). Feminism advocates that there's nothing wrong with being promiscuous and single forever, if that's what you want. Some people never want to have families, and are perfectly content with that. Other people do want to have families, and thus should try to form them as early as they wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/17 09:30 PM
5	Have you seen other women come to this realization? No, it didn't "work" for the previous generations. They often remained in relationships with people they didn't like, and felt "content" because "that's as good as it gets" and because they knew no better. Having the choice to remain single or look for more satisfying relationships is obviously better. You're not forced into a pattern that might not work for you. The people who want to choose someone at 25 and make it work are still free to do so, and if it works for them, then good. But a bunch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/17 09:09 PM
1	CMV: Male sexuality is inherently oppressive. A sidenote to begin with: the study only looks at students of a university that work out. Many people don't, though. Plus, the age sample is very limited and I would say, misleading in terms of the general population. But it doesn't matter. So, I keep trying to zero in the discussion on our different view on whether all the things you talk about are inherent (which was your original view under challenge), and how universal they are. You don't seem to want to talk about that. Why? I agree that so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/17 04:06 PM
1	CMV: Male sexuality is inherently oppressive. I would argue that a) men having greater strength is common, but not even close to universal. Men, if I'm not mistaken, have higher maximum potential for strength on average (as evidenced by the Olympics and so on), but in the everyday case, I'd posit its very often that a regular man and woman don't really differ in terms of strength, not in a significant way b) that in at least most civilized societies, it is not necessary to be afraid of people stronger than you, it isn't necessary to be inti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/17 02:25 PM
1	Is this RP field report real? Does it sound believable? To be honest, I can see them saying the same thing about other groups. But yeah, I agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/17 02:31 PM
2	Is this RP field report real? Does it sound believable? Quite sensible to wear an apron, then :-)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/17 02:21 PM
1	Is this RP field report real? Does it sound believable? The first comment says exactly that, that feminism is only a big shit test.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/17 02:21 PM
2	Is this RP field report real? Does it sound believable? This one sounds reasonable, though. As in, that's how people often behave in real life. At least if you ignore all the TRP commentary and perspective, which, I would say, is completely disconnected from the reality of what was going on. My point is: if a red piller was going to make up a story to brag, it would seem more plausible to me that the characters and events would be more consistent with the red piller view of the world, and would probably be more flamboyant. In other words: I don't bel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/17 02:20 PM
1	Is this RP field report real? Does it sound believable? This report sounds very plausible to me. What I find incomprehensible, is both these people's misunderstanding of feminism, to think that any of the events described are against feminism somehow. Making breakfast for someone you had sex with is a nice thing, anyone can do it. Everything leading up to that sounds like two independent people who got together because they liked each other. All this red pill posturing and interpretation sounds completely misplaced to me. My question to OP is: why ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/17 02:13 PM
1	CMV: Male sexuality is inherently oppressive. Let's start with saying that all that about a) how men have an imperative to mate with as many women as humanly possible and b) that men would go to obscene lengths to have sex are completely false. There's great variance in men's sexual desire: some are like what you describe, others want to mate some, others are asexual, etc. Also, there's, I'd argue, even more variance in what men would do for sex: some would kill, rape, etc, but quite a lot would only go up to lying about themselves to attra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/17 08:37 PM
1	Q4men: pick just 2 of the following in an SO: sane, hot, or smart Why would I do that, though? Can't I just look for smart, sane people that I'm attracted to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/17 08:27 PM
1	CMV: People with high n counts should not be shamed or judged. Instead they should be revered and celebrated for their achievements. I would argue that your statement lacks nuance. Having a high count isn't a good or a bad thing on its own. One can get a high count by engaging in sex compulsively, in ways that don't make them happy, or that are self damaging. They can also do it healthily, with openness and joy for all parties. I'd say it's not an achievement. It shouldn't be shamed, either. It should be treated just like any other complicated stat of a person's life: as if on its own, it can't tell us enough about that perso…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/17 08:16 PM