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Surprisingly, I found my psych classes to be pretty unbiased! Otherwise, yeah... every class I took on my second run through college that had a female professor was quietly sexist. The male professors, strangely enough, did not do the same. Gee, wonder why.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 03:18 AM
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When I was fifteen I had to tell dad that mom and I were moving out, because she didn't have the guts to do it without my taking the initiative. Man was doing, buying, and selling drugs, and had become insufferable to be around due to diving deep into conspiracy theories and shit, as well as being generally bitter and angry about everything. The last straw was when he cussed and screamed at me for taking the last Snickers bar in the fridge. Doesn't sound that wild, but dealing with that level of…
/r/MenSupportMen03/05/23 06:29 PM
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I wear comfortable pants everywhere. Fuck jeans, man. I only wear them shits if I have work to do or I'm going on a date or something - why tf would I want a damn belt digging into me every time I sit down?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:13 AM
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Eh. As usual, the generalizations don't really stick. I can firmly say that if I ever had a girl I thought was 'marriage material', and she showed literally ANY interest in going the distance, I would have moved heaven and earth lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:50 AM
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My good lad, this sub should not be taken very seriously. It's a place full of really bitter people where, on occasion, a good conversation is had. It is a good place to see challenging views; it is NOT a good place to get your ideas of how the real world is. There are some truths on here. For example, most people who date are in some ways jaded, and very self-interested. Thing is, that doesn't make them evil or problematic - that's just human nature. The sooner you get invovled with the people …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:11 PM
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Apparently I'm Easy To Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:20 PM
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You're aware that 'men' refers to multiple people with different thoughts and values, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:23 AM
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It isn't about men having access to them, it's about me not liking them. I don't like people who are shallow and narcissistic, and most other people don't either, man or woman. The fact that you are bending so far backwards to try and make this a men-vs-women discussion speaks to your immature and un-nuanced perspective. Here you mentioned men having to be with said women due to a lack of other options. No, men don't HAVE to be with them, they CHOOSE to be with them. I don't think men are someho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:52 AM
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I have not said a single one of those things. I hold the same disdain for vain and shallow men. If you want to be mad at me for shit I didn't say feel free though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:36 PM
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Frankly it's because I don't like shallowness and wasting my time, but go off. I know it's easier to hit a strawman, so knock yourself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:16 PM
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No, I'm saying that shallowness is a flaw and we should all strive for character growth–the enabling of such behavior also makes it so that many do not learn this, and they keep inflicting their narcissism on others. Try again, chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:32 PM
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If it makes you feel better, it's not quite as awful and dystopian as OP's post would indicate if you can filter out the shallow people, which isn't hard. The hard part is that men don't usually have a lot of options, so many will stick it out to try, which effectively validates the shallow women in question, ruining it for the rest of us because nobody calls them on their shit and they don't grow as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:26 PM
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Wow. Seeing it all laid out like this is... kinda wild. It's all stuff that you do notice, but in small doses, which lessens the impact of it. This is a very thorough write-up, and it really clarifies just how screwed up the constant focus on feminism is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/23 03:36 PM
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Notice that "opening doors for men" isn't actually "opening doors for people" in that argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 08:32 PM
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Exactly. We've got to gain common ground and focus on the shit that matters, not purity-test people and push them away. That's no way to make friends or allies.
/r/MenSupportMen12/02/23 04:10 PM
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Man, I just read your comment and I have to ask: Are we the same person? lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 03:52 PM
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I'm happy you're eyes are clear, but I'm sorry you have to see it. It's really disheartening how much people dismiss others based purely on identity politics, rather than having a conversation. People wonder why the "alt-right pipeline" is so effective–this is why. If men try to do the right thing, and don't necessarily agree with everything certain folks say, they get shit on, called misogynists or incels, and their opinion is no longer valid. It's the same with anything involving LGBT issues; …
/r/MenSupportMen12/02/23 03:46 PM
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I would say you absolutely are in the right here. Y'all weren't exclusive yet, that's it. And regardless, vandalism isn't the appropriate response to infidelity crazy people think it is anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 12:56 AM
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I don't think it's exclusively unattractive for women, but for me the top flags are: Unmanaged Obesity (meaning they aren't even trying) Dramatic Hateful (including misandry!) Victim Complex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:04 PM
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Damn relevant username
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:40 PM
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Fr I ain't a fan of obesity but thick and tatted is a VIBE
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 06:41 PM
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I'm not particularly old and wise, and I have issues myself, so take this with a grain of salt. I was a late bloomer. Kissless until 22. It sucked. Aside from utilizing the apps, which did net me a few successes but mostly mental health struggles, what I changed is my perspective. I still flicker back to old thought patterns here and there, but overall I try to remember a few things. Women are different, but they aren't THAT different. They are attracted to your body, yes, but what really catche…
/r/MenSupportMen23/01/23 03:53 AM
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I wasn't referring to the people, but rather the relationships 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:50 PM
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You can simultaneously want a serious relationship and enjoy fucking around when that relationship is nowhere in sight. They aren't mutually exclusive. I say this as a man who does the same thing. You don't just throw a perfectly good burger in the trash because your heart wants lasagna, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 07:49 PM
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I feel you. My first girlfriend was the sweetest woman I've been with. No one kisses as well as her. No one makes me feel like a man as much as she did. I fucked that up, and while I try not to talk or think about it often, I regret what I did every time it comes up in my mind. I take small comfort in the fact that I was young and stupid, and that I knew no better. But she has no reason to believe that, and she moved on years ago. I've been desperately hanging on to the hope that she's not the o…
/r/MenSupportMen14/01/23 06:45 PM
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Oh god don't even try with this one, you'll get nowhere lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:01 AM
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I highly recommend it. Reframing fuck-ups as mistakes and learning experiences has not only changed my mindset to be more productive, but also improved my self-worth and made me more pleasant to be around.
/r/MenSupportMen02/01/23 05:15 AM
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I feel you 100%. I've had to work at it pretty consistently over the last two years and I still slip if I'm not vigilant, but that's the only way I could keep moving forward without medicating. When the reward center of your brain just doesn't work the same way as it does for others... You have to improvise.
/r/MenSupportMen02/01/23 04:57 AM
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Oh look, human refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:48 AM
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As someone in the field who also struggles with depression, there's another way to look at it that I find more palatable. I call it 'self-talk'. You know how, throughout your day, you'll occasionally just say shit to yourself? You sleep through your alarm, "Damn it I'm going to be late again–why can't I just wake on time" You mess up while making breakfast, "Ugh, I'm so stupid, why do I always do this" You can't find your keys, "Where did I leave them? I'm such an idiot, I should have put them o…
/r/MenSupportMen02/01/23 04:21 AM
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Sounds to me like your parents are way out of line, but here's the truth: as long as you live under their roof and under their grace you can't really do anything unless they agree to it or you're willing to strike out on your own. It sucks, but that is life.
/r/MenSupportMen30/12/22 08:51 PM
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Well, tbf, a lot of dudes are judging them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:58 PM
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I'm a straight guy, but I've definitely seen my fill of misandry too. The weird thing is, other men I know absolutely don't see it at all unless I literally walk them through it. The programming is soooo deep. Hell, my best friend is what one would call, "a man's man," and he's a well-informed leftist, but even he recoils any time I mention the topic. He's coming around, but it's taken a LOT of uncomfortable conversations. Now anytime the ladies in our friend group (including his fiance) start t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/22 06:15 AM
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Gracias. One can hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:42 PM
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I think it's fair to call it abuse IF the partner is specifically withholding intimacy with the sole intention to hurt the other person or manipulate them. In just about every single other circumstance, it is not abuse, it is incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:45 AM
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Huh. Well, now I know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:42 PM
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I don't think they were alluding to either of those things. It looked to me like dude was talking about dating in general. That is to say, summarizing very briefly, "women don't like it when men leave the 'marketplace' and get what they want from a different one." In other words, what he's saying is that women do not like for men to leave the dating pool they are socially assigned (by dating younger women, women in foreign countries, escorts who exchange sex for money, etc), because that leads t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:12 AM
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Dating apps aren't real life. Believe it or not, many people date without the screen in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:33 AM
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Say it with me: It's not coercive if she's into it. You are conflating the real, genuine issues of sex trafficking, abusive relationships, and power-structure coercion with relationships that many people the world over find happiness in. Just as one anecdotal example, my late-40's sister has been with a man 13 years older than her since her early twenties. They had two children together. He is a gentle soul, and he would NEVER hurt her. If anything, she wears the pants in that house. He should n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:31 AM
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...I'mma need an explanation on that one, because men do not outnumber women 10-1 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:16 AM
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Well I appreciate it regardless. Always wanted a castle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:30 AM
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Ah. Well, I do appreciate the sentiment. I'm not hideous or anything, but perhaps I would have more luck with someone demisexual. Got a high libido though, so maybe not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:29 AM
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Don't feel like a king, it must be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:45 PM
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I'm not sure why I would specifically want to find a demisexual tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:12 PM
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Given up? Not exactly. I've stopped putting so much energy into it though, because I've come to the realization that I'm not what most women are looking for, and unless there's clear interest I'm better served by simply spending time alone or with my friends. I don't play games, I'm pretty average-looking, and I don't like to be treated as an option, which means that the amount of ladies who are compatible with me is not particularly impressive. I consider myself a hopeful romantic. One of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:01 AM
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The south ain't the world, chief. Hate to break it to ya, but most people prefer to be with someone who takes care of themself. Plenty of chubby-chasers the world over, but that is not the norm. You are deluding yourself if you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:32 PM
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Before I tried to explain a damn thing, I'd ask where you got your number, because it sure isn't based in reality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:21 PM
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You'll have to forgive me, I don't have as much practice as you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:16 PM
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Hey, congrats dude/dudette! That's huge, and this internet stranger is proud of you :) And yeah, those people are soooo full of shit. The amount of interest you get when you get fit is LEAPS AND BOUNDS beyond the amount you will get when you can't run a block without wheezing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:09 PM
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Look out OP, this is some baseless ad-hominem, which you are categorically against xD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:51 PM
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I rebutted plenty in other comments; you just lack the perspective to take any of it on-board.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:48 PM
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Probably because their boundaries aren't about you. Boundaries are for protection, because giving strangers highly sensitive information about you can be dangerous and/or foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:43 PM
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Says the one calling everyone else 'parasites'
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:42 PM
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Yeah, as demonstrated by your clearly stable and positive comments here, you're CLEARLY completely divorced from trauma lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:41 PM
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Insanity lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:34 PM
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This dude is positively high on his own supply; he doesn't listen to anything he doesn't already agree with lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:29 PM
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It's wild to me how many people try and act like being obese isn't a huge fucking handicap. Like... You aren't able to do as many things physically, you don't look as good, and your life expectancy goes down. There are not many upsides, and I say that as someone who struggles with weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:27 PM
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Yikes buddy. Good luck with all that I guess; some of us prefer to not give our life story to strangers. I suppose I'm basically Hannibal Lector though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:38 PM
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THANK YOU. OP is doing too much lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:17 PM
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Just as I suspected. You wanna get them attached to some extent to cloud their judgment. It is not "clouding their judgment" to let someone learn about you over time. You can do this from the start. Sure, you could do that from the start if you want really depressing first dates. Odd. I think I'm pretty emotionally intelligent. What makes you think that? I think you aren't emotionally intelligent because every comment makes it seem like you're looking for a fight, not a conversation. That, added…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:13 PM
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Most people will not react well if you tell them, "I have depression and I've attempted suicide five times," on the first date. It's not the appropriate time for that discussion, because the first date is supposed to be fun, it's supposed to show the other person why you might make a good partner. However, if you tell them that after a date or two, before things get 'serious', but after they begin to see what makes you 'special', and you explain to them why it happened and what you've been doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:56 PM
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People are flawed, and it's very easy to be judgmental about someone you don't know. However, when you know them, and you have some context of their life and how/why they are the way they are, it can turn something scary into something endearing. This isn't rocket refrigerators. Have you ever been in a relationship before?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:07 PM
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There's a difference between, "I'm a spiritual person and I really value honesty and purpose in a partner," and, "Here's a list of all my traumatic experiences that turned me into the mess you see before you." Self-disclosure is super-important, but even people who would grow to appreciate your flaws will not see a reason to stay if that's what you lead with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:27 PM
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Block button exists for a reason, sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:25 PM
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Yeahhhh I'm good chief. That level of intensity requires groundwork. You don't build a house on a muddy slope, you have to establish a firm foundation of trust first. If you don't, you WILL scare off potential partners, and it WILL be your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:23 PM
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Right. Who gives a fuck about other people, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:33 PM
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Seems to me like you just want to take the coward's way out, instead of simply communicating to someone like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:27 PM
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For real. Some people are so afraid of conflict they can't even stomach a message.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:26 PM
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"No," is even more obvious, as it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:25 AM
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Idk if it's an unpopular take per se, but it's become very clear that contemporary dating advice is all pretty much bullshit. People like different things, but the majority of women like a guy with his shit together who takes no guff, and the majority of men like a girl who looks good and has an easygoing attitude. It ain't hard to see, and it makes sense; yin needs yang and yang needs yin. Of course, there are plenty of couples that flip the norm or defy it entirely, but that's how things gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:22 AM
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Yeah, but instead of slowly letting someone come to the realization of "no" over a shitty week of waiting for a message, how about we just nut up and say "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:18 AM
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Sounds to me like you don't have equality, chief. Neither do I. World would be better if we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:25 PM
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Don't 'you guys' me, I don't even prefer girls with less experience. I'm explaining the perspective because there are many presumptions being made in this thread just because some people disagree. Get over yourself, people can have whatever standards they want, so long as they can deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:39 AM
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...which means it's more efficient to screen them out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:37 AM
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Could be kids, could be trauma, could be trust issues, etc etc. Different people handle life differently. For some, damage develops healthy boundaries. For others, that same damage develops risky or unwanted behavior. It ain't that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 11:02 PM
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I like a girl with some experience, but this is not an accurate take at all. Girls with less experience are also girls with less baggage, generally. Some men do not want to deal with that baggage, and that is their perogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:08 PM
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This. This is the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:16 PM
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And what makes you think that is ubiquitous, or close to ubiquitous?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:18 AM
0

What behavior would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:10 AM
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Men get attacked for the harmful behavior that some other men participate in. It boggles the mind that anyone can just standardize the behavior of a whole gender like that, yet I see it pretty much constantly, even when I specifically curate it out of what shows up in my feeds. "Men" aren't some cabal of douches that get together on Sundays and choose 'asshole'. "Men" is a widely disparate group of people, all with very different lives, circumstances and values. To say that "Men" are responsible…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:06 AM
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You've gotta watch what you consume and subscribe to. Stay away from redpillers on youtube, tiktok, any visual media basically, because they are incentivized to publish what gets them views, which is negative shit. If you're going to look at redpill content, you need to look at it critically, and realize that there are good ideas associated with it and bad ones–for your own good and sanity, discard the bad ones. I define 'bad' as stuff that I feel in my gut is wrong. While it's not infallible, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:01 AM
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Well there's your problem; all that content is ragebait. That's not representative of the whole shebang though. I say this as someone who doesn't completely subscribe to the red pill, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:56 AM
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There's a lot of misandry on the internet too, don't worry. We all get beat with the shit-stick. It's just that when women do it it's not discrimination... for some reason. Definitely some wild shit coming out of redpillers (especially content creators), but it's not like that behavior is isolated to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:54 AM
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You right, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:41 AM
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I guarantee they don't want a bitch either, yet here you are
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:46 PM
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So she slates women online and does the whole 'I'm not like the other girls teehee' thing in the hopes that men give her a reward. She's even said she'd rather be a 'pick me than a skip me'. So then say that. Namecalling people you don't even know ain't a good look though That said, I don't see the problem with catering to the people you want to be with - that's kinda how dating works. Y'all calling ladies "pick-me's" is the ultimate example of the crab-in-the-bucket mentality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:19 PM
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Men can be and often are responsible for many of their own problems, but it is not that simple at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:28 PM
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I disagree with her on a lot, but you calling her ugly over all this says more about you than it does about her. Food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:26 PM
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I don't think the majority of dudes having success are bullshitters, but I've ABSOLUTELY seen women fall over themselves for a few bullshitters. One of my childhood friends, for one. Dude grew up in a broken home, middle child, short, black (in a mostly white small town), total nerd. But around highschool he realized if he treated his nerdy friends like strangers, dressed in the same brands the popular people dressed in, and pretended he didn't care what anybody thought, girls would flock to him…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:20 PM
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In that case, yeah I agree. Plenty of people can get with the opposite sex by playing games and being foolish, but that shit doesn't last - there needs to be a foundation before you can build a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:21 PM
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I think it's important to be friends with your partner, in that you should share some activities, but it is not the primary component in my opinion. You can befriend the opposite sex all you want, but without attraction it's just that: friendship. If he doesn't give you the warm fuzzies and make you feel safe and taken care of, it won't last. If she doesn't make you feel like the luckiest badass in town, it won't last. At least, that's what I've observed. I'm fully willing to admit I'm not the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:39 PM
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Ehhh I see where you're coming from, but not all women are like that. I will say for certain that I prefer male friends for the most part, but that is largely because they share my interests and think the same way I do–not because women make shitty friends. I always keep a few female friends as well, because they can offer me different perspectives and a couple of them give really good advice. That said, I will admit I have never had a woman offer to fix my toilet so you've got 'em there lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:30 AM
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I wish I could disagree with you, but that's kinda where we're at, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:13 PM
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Question for clarification so I don't do it again: it was removed for containing the word 'cope'?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:15 PM
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In the words of Michael Jordan: Stop it. Get some help. In all seriousness though, women aren't responsible for your mental health any more than you are for theirs–get that through your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:17 AM
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Yeah, that's pretty common. Most people do not jive with their first therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:59 AM
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LOL. As a guy in the field, therapy for free would be hell. Imagine hearing all the negative shit someone thinks but doesn't say for a whole hour, coming up with some strategies and ideas to help them cope with all that negative shit, and, while actively listening to them and making them feel safe even when they're saying truly WILD stuff, working towards a diagnosis and some med recommendations for a dude with a doctorate to review. Not to mention working to unravel any mental disorders that pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:57 AM
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Says you. Two of my friends got married, and their lives got much easier after that, aside from the interpersonal conflict that comes from moving in together. They were both living with their parents to save on bills, now they've pooled their resources, and own their own trailer. And that's just temporary until they fix it up (they're mostly done, actually) and finish their schooling so they can both get high-paying work. Neither of them could have done that alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:47 AM
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There should be equality though. Equality of opportunity, at least. It's still a good thing to strive for. Unfortunately, that would mean some organized class action, and we're too drunk off the teat of modern living to buckle down and make sacrifices to hurt the higher-ups until they finally treat us as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:54 AM
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I'm not 'all in' on the redpill stuff, but one thing that really pissed me off was when I realized I objectified women and put them on a pedestal, instead of seeing them as fundamentally flawed people just like men. So many things clicked for me in that moment–my anxiety with women, the fact I couldn't read them well, the shitty treatment I got from some of them. It didn't feel good to realize that. I felt like an asshole, and in some sense, I was one. Boys are taught, through media and through …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:32 AM
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Cops shouldn't be cops if they're on a hair-trigger, and men shouldn't treat every woman as if her betrayal is inevitable. It's fine to be vigilant, but there is no excuse for popping off before you know the situation. I say this as an average-looking guy. You absolutely WILL NOT be successful if you treat all women like gold-diggers or emotional vampires. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:53 PM
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A family unit... made up of two separate people/entities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:04 PM
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Yeahhhh. While I'm not one to jump the gun and scream, "DUMP 'EM!" at the first sight of difficulty, that's definitely one of those behaviors I've found I can't tolerate. Some venting is fine, a lot of venting is acceptable maybe a couple times a week, max. It's okay when someone needs help processing their emotions! It's not okay when they take no responsibility for dealing with them. To be clear, I don't think you were saying otherwise, I was just continuing that thread of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:21 PM
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Have seen. It is indeed a brilliant video lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:15 PM
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Ayy no problem. I think it's important to clarify one's terms in these sorts of conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:11 PM
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No, I am saying that poor behavior is still poor if you have reasons for it. If someone gives you reason to be suspicious, then sure, don't be a doormat - better for you that way. But the way I read your previous comment was that men who've been burned have an excuse to treat ALL women with suspicion. That's kinda fucked if so, but maybe I misinterpreted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:09 PM
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There is a difference between having a reason and having an excuse. Excuse implies you aren't responsible. Assholes can have reasons, but they don't get the luxury of excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:39 AM
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Having a reason for being an asshole doesn't excuse you being an asshole. Not even making a statement on my opinion here, just making a very obvious observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:53 AM
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Hey you too, distant internet homie
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:31 AM
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I think it's more that men don't often talk about the shit part of their days unless there's something you can do about it, or if they want another perspective. Thus, they usually expect the same from somebody who talks about that shit with them. "Okay she has a problem. Shit, well let's go down the list..." This isn't to say that men never vent, but usually there's a problem-solving aspect to it, at least. I don't know if this part is true of all other men, but I feel as if me venting to someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:49 AM
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YES. Call out the women in your life like you call out the men. Few people are capable of self-improvement without some feedback. And if they are incapable of self-improvement or accepting feedback, why tf would you want them in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:29 AM
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This isn't me disagreeing with you, I just thought this was a funny comment and wanted to respond. It clears our thoughts. Weird, but it does. It is probably the strongest source of validation men have. It's fun. I can see an argument that venting helps to clear thoughts, and contributes to feelings of validation, but damn is it unfun lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:26 AM
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I'mma keep it real with you, chief. I'm a peer support specialist, so active listening is literally my job, but I'll be damned if I shack up with someone who can't handle a, "Honey, that's rough, but I'm kinda tapped out right now. Can we just watch a movie for now?" And I'm sure as hell not going to agree with completely unreasonable crap, or gas her up for bitching about her coworker Sarah, who probably didn't even realize there was a problem. If it goes on for too long, I'm gonna say, "That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:20 AM
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Hey man, I wish that people wouldn't treat you that way, but I suppose them's the breaks. Just remember that people who behave that way are miserable deep down – those comments are a reflection of their ego, not your worth. For some positive masculine content, if you're interested, I highly recommend the JustGuysBeingDudes subreddit. But as for personal stories... My friends and I say 'I love you' with no shame or guff. We also look out for each other in every way that matters (we keep each othe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/22 04:04 AM
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To self-focus does not mean to end society. It means to look inward and reflect upon oneself. In the words of Socrates, because we are all nerds here, "The unexamined life is not worth living."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:44 AM
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Ehhhh this ain't it, chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:24 AM
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There is a difference between keeping a bit of mystery and being a dick. Not being honest about your intentions is indisputably dick behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:05 AM
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As someone who lives independently with a roommate, my best friend has been living with his dad his whole life so far (we're both 27 years old, btw), and I'll give you one guess who just closed on a very nice house with his fiance. Hint: It's not the one who's been throwing his money away on rent for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:00 AM
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It is common. I don't think the vast majority of college-aged women are sleeping through the football team or anything, but college is about the time most people start truly dabbling. Like, you may not be able to find many virginal women at that age, but there are plenty of gals who aren't going buck wild, and treat relationships with care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:18 AM
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I absolutely agree with you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 01:42 AM
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Please, go ahead and demonstrate. What are the rules and laws that give men power over women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:58 PM
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"Openly" does not necessarily mean "in public". What I mean is someone being disrespectful to their partner, without even an attempt at pretense. I am not talking about women in general, I am talking about potential romantic interests. When people get agitated, their kindness and politeness is often strained. In relationships, partners get agitated with each other sometimes. What I am saying, is if a woman is terrible at arguing in a constructive fashion, I'm going to lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:08 AM
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I'mma keep it real witchu, chief. I don't give a flying fuck about anybody's body count. What I care about is maturity, passion, and loyalty. I see a high body count as a flag, sure. I'm going to be more vigilant with someone who's ran through a bunch of guys, and I might want to get assurances where sexual health is concerned, but ultimately it is not that big of a factor. Now, some bigger factors for me are if she dismisses things I say, disrespects me openly (same for friends, it's not a sexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 08:07 PM
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There's a lot of emotion involved in this subject, so naturally the two groups of people who are opposite each other tend to carry a lot of unnecessary vitriol. I've certainly made a few regrettable comments in this sub, and I'm sure most PPD users have–that's the price of letting everybody speak on roughly the same level. Tensions get high, people stop putting themselves in other people's shoes, and it becomes a, "nuh-uh!" contest. Real talk though, I wish people in this sub would try a bit har…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:57 PM
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We're talking about what currently exists Such as domestic violence of and against both genders? No worries, I'm all caught up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 10:06 PM
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Men who say that women and men are abused at similar rates are familiar with statistics. That says nothing about them as a person, or how they treat their partner. Anyone who says otherwise is projecting hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:07 PM
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Definitely not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:04 PM
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Here's a fuckin' wild idea, how about nobody hits anybody and we all go home
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:01 PM
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She had her moments
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:50 PM
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For sure. The reason men on here talk about it so much is because many of us have been socially conditioned since we were children not to show emotions, except for very specific circumstances. Then when we grew up, we were told that we should show our emotions more, then we get punished for it by losing relationships and such. I don't think it's better or worse than what women go through, it's just different, and it feels like people don't take men's problems seriously unless we make a big stink…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:18 AM
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I don't think that's true of all or even most women. I'm just saying it's a pretty common experience among men to (at some point) have partners who do that mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:54 AM
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Is it so hard to believe that sometimes it isn't the man's fault? Just like there are some shit men out there, there are some shit women. As for the mental illness romanticization... Yeah, I've seen that too (I work at a crisis center) and it ain't pretty. I'm unmedicated, but I have pretty strong supports and coping skills so it's very manageable. There are a lot of people who just can't understand that stuff, and that's fine by me–I see it as saving me more pain down the line. It's hard to kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:19 AM
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Yeah, that's fair enough. I haven't had a super-long-term relationship, so I doubt the pain I've felt is comparable tbh. Wish you well, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:13 AM
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Tbh I'm just being vague to respect privacy. To give you a slightly more specific idea, I've had a friend whose SO left him because he was grieving and he wasn't doing well (which, if it's a short relationship or abuse was involved I get it, but that definitely wasn't the case), and I've personally seen the light leave a couple women's eyes once I tell them what living with my depression is really like. To be clear, they asked, it wasn't something I thrust upon them out of the blue. Agreed thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:05 AM
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I would personally recommend you keep trying, because I think it is worth it, but there is definitely nothing wrong with being guarded and slow to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:00 AM
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Oh certainly, same here. But, I don't begrudge them their caution either. I'm perfectly friendly with people, but people (men or women) definitely have to earn my trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:58 AM
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Probably because: a. Many lack the social support that (most) women have. b. When we express ourselves in that way, we often see it as a big deal, and we expect our emotions to be taken seriously. When a man opens up like that, he's showing a lot of trust, and most of us don't do betrayal. It makes the relationship not worth it, because if you can't trust your partner with your feelings, what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:48 AM
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What are these inner thoughts, the real shit? "I'm trying so hard, why can't I get ahead?" "I feel overwhelmed because I've got x, y, z going on." "I'm having bad thoughts / making bad decisions, I think I need help." "I'm insecure about x, y, z." Or, in a couple cases, any inner thoughts which might imply their partner needs to change their behavior for the relationship. And examples where your friends girlfriends left them and why? I mean, you don't know my friends so regardless of my specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:42 AM
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That's a very honest answer lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:31 AM
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What's odd to me is the constant fall back to "turn off". The greatest fear men have in opening up is women will be less likely to fuck them? Is that... it? It's certainly a big part of it. Breaking news, men generally like fucking their SOs. It's not just that, though. Many men have experiences where they open up about Real Shittm , and their partner begins to distance themself, until they fade out of love. This is because many people can't handle those inner thoughts, the ones that actually ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:18 AM
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Did you ever consider that it is both possible for some men to express themselves destructively, and for some women to put down men who express themselves in a non-destructive way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:11 AM
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Do you expect people to tell you about specific people in their lives when you don't know them? Here, I'll give you a specific example (I fully expect it to be dismissed as an anecdote.) It's a simple one. Early in one of my relationships, I told my ex, who we'll call Brie, that I get insecure when communication is only going one way (e.g., when I'm the only one texting), or when she is glued to her phone while we are hanging out. After that point, when she was upset with me she would stop respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:06 AM
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The fellow doth protest too much, methinks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:02 PM
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Not talking about me, but you seem fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:06 PM
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There is such a thing as "wrong place, wrong time"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:20 AM
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You're gonna make me cry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:03 PM
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My bad, made the faulty assumption that you weren't aromantic. Having an arrangement like that, for someone like me, is like... Eating pizza without cheese or toppings. Like, sure, it's something edible, but it's really disappointing and bland–it doesn't have all the things that make pizza, well, pizza. That is, of course, not to mention how incredibly hard it would be to find a compatible woman who would be interested in such an arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:35 AM
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Oh no worries, I've gathered that you don't much care for logical consistency at all. Maybe you should go hang out in Double X, where baseless claims are the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:26 AM
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Because physical and emotional intimacy doesn't get that deep with a roommate. I can't have children with my roommate and carve out a life for myself. I'm sure as shit not going to have sex with my roommate, or revel in the pleasure I see in their eyes. I'm not going to share romantic evenings with my roommate, or receive cute little gifts that remind me of how we met and make my heart flutter. Don't be obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:23 AM
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Dude isn't even talking about himself, you are projecting SO HARD my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:14 AM
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Of course, because all men are the same don't you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:10 AM
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I'm a man who interacts with others, has a number of rich friendships, and I'm pretty charismatic overall, though not really pursuing romance at the moment due to life circumstances. Newsflash, none of that shit replaces having a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:58 AM
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Totally fair
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:08 AM
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I feel you, but you can identify with the ideals of leftism without partaking in the BS identity politics. I wouldn't deign to tell you what's best, but that's how I roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:57 PM
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See, I've never seen people blame one person for the patriarchy, but rather generalize, ya know, a whole gender, and blame them. People who blame shit on whole demographics are dumb as hell, always have been. People who blame black folks? Dumb af People who blame women for shit? Dumb af People who blame white people? Dumb af People who blame men? You guessed it, Dumb af
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:55 PM
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So let me get this straight... you want poor folks, who are in roughly the same boat as you, to turn down jobs because the hiring manager might be racist and they are white? You want other poor people, who happen to be white, to start unions for you? You want other poor people, who are struggling to get by, to NOT negotiate their wage so that it's more equal with yours? That is fantasy. The system would have to change drastically for us commoners to do a damn thing, outside of organizing, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:46 PM
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That doesn't surprise me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:23 PM
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Yup. I don't agree with right-wing ideologies in general, but I don't blame people who lean that way. Just another side of the coin, but people act like it defines who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:22 PM
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Yes, but I'm talking about the common use of the word. People use it incorrectly all the time, and it's poisoned the whole conversation outside of academics. I do not often hear people say, "the patriarchy is a small subset of the population that oppresses everyone," however I do often hear that the patriarchy was made by men to benefit men, and that today's men (rich and poor) derive privilege from that institution. That's because literally, "the patriarchy" is a term that puts the blame on men…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:45 PM
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Trust me brother, I do not disagree. I am a leftist after all. But the language and perspective of many leftists is gross is all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:15 PM
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Oh, at the end of the day the right absolutely treats men as pawns - I just meant that their rhetoric isn't as outright toxic to men as the left's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:09 PM
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Ah, so it is fine for me to say that "women are too emotional." After all, it's true! Some women are emotional! If a woman has any kind of reaction to that, it's because she's hiding behind the assurance that she is not one of those overly-emotional women. So it's fine for me to say that "black people are criminals," because it's true! Some black people are criminals! If they have a problem with me saying that, it's because they are in their fee-fees, not because it's a gross over-generalization…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:05 PM
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For sure, and my expectations have changed and will continue to change over the years as I have other relationships no doubt :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:38 AM
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Well, right. That's my point–I just don't trust that easily, so I have to know someone VERY well before I would marry them, much less let them make big decisions in my life. Thus far I haven't met anyone I would trust that much, aside from my best friend who is a dude. It's less about power-struggling and more about me feeling safe and grounded with someone. Point being, that doesn't stem from misogyny or anything, but rather my personal baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:28 AM
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It's more like: I trust myself to know when I don't know something, so I would defer to my partner when they know more than me, but I would have the final yes/no, if that makes sense. I'm the type of person to let other people make their own choices, and in that family dynamic, I would probably let my partner make loads of decisions. Possibly more than me. I just want to decide who decides, because I think I'm a better judge of merit and character than most. If I deemed my partner to be more com…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:56 AM
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So what you're saying is that you expected to have power over women and realized that it wasn't an accurate perception of relationships afterwards and handled it like an adult. Not as such... I still expect to have final decision-power in a family dynamic. It just has little to do with gender (would have the same perspective if I was gay), but rather that I trust myself and know I'm pretty smart about most things, whereas most people I've met... not so much. That said, I definitely agree that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:31 AM
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Is that so? In my limited experience, it's more that loads of men were raised to put women on a pedestal, and then when they grew up they realized most women don't actually like that shit in a partner and grew bitter and hateful about it. Hence why you hear so many "niceguys" complaining about all the "Chads" getting girls. Ngl, I even went through a stage where I thought like that, but I never fell into the hate and whatnot, I just realized people are into all sorts of shit and you just have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:17 AM
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As a center-leaning leftist man, I'll tell you what I've observed that might be contributing. A lot of "leftist" (and I use that term loosely) rhetoric has been all about shaming people for shit their ancestors did, or blaming everyday people for shit like "the patriarchy," which is such a nebulous fucking concept you can apply it to anything you want if you try hard enough, and the shutting-down of debate. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people get shouted down or completely ignored j…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:07 AM
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Ah yes, because most guys are shit, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:26 AM
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This has roughly been my experience too, which is why I no longer try to change for other people, unless it's people I actually care about who are in my circle. I am simply me, but me also happens to be masculine. If some women don't like it, well, they don't have to. I'm past giving a shit–I wouldn't be happy with those women anyway. I'm living for me now, and if I happen to meet some fine ladies along the way who vibe with my lifestyle, I'm more than willing to share that life. I used to see r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:26 PM
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I think that was their point, brother.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/22 06:57 AM
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Unfortunately, absolutely. We are very complex meat mechs, and all our sensory systems are specifically tuned to pick up on social cues, and to recognize personal boundaries non-verbally. Most people are not well-educated when it comes to neurodivergant behaviors, and unfortunately for autistic people, the natural human gut-reaction is geared against them due to their difficulty with social cues and boundary recognition. Hell, I'm someone who goes out of his way to be a safe and accepting person…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:52 AM
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For some, it is that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:35 AM
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I will say, in fairness, that I am very selective with who I let into my life in the first place, so it's not surprising that my experience differs from other people's experiences. I simply have no wish to associate (beyond a friendly-acquaintance level, I mean) with people who don't value the things I value. I've let the wrong people in before, gotten burned, and learned. All this to say, my answer probably has some bias to it, and I'm sure that your answer is very valid as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:36 PM
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It's not scummy because non-monogamy is sinful or some ish, but because it's disrespectful and offensive to the committed relationship unless previously agreed upon. Most relationships are monogamous. It seems like men can be completely fine in their relationship but cheat when the women with nicer asses and younger faces go from merely existing around them, to giving them temptation and opportunity. I don't doubt that this is how some men operate, but there are also some of us that value loyalt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:52 PM
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Dude DEFINITELY isn't speaking for the rest of us. In my experience, in most healthy relationships (important to note that not all relationships are healthy) the man grows to appreciate his partner more and more as they age. Sure, maybe young women have nicer asses or prettier faces, but they aren't his partner, and thus they have less value in his eyes. Men who want to cheat, much like women who want to cheat, are unhappy with the relationship. In either case, if they cheat, they are scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:46 PM
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I love how they manage to take that data and come to that conclusion. Gee, it's almost like women choose LESS LETHAL forms of suicide, almost like they DON'T HAVE the same drive to die! But yeah sure, taking extra painkillers is the same as putting a revolver in your gob and making the conscious decision to pull the trigger.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/22 08:51 PM
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Fuckin... No dude. There are good people out there who won't do it, and there are unfortunately shitty people who will. There's no guidebook, just experience and, in some cases, trusting your gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:47 PM
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Fuck online dating in general, honestly. None of those apps serve anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:56 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:47 PM
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People really suck sometimes. It would appear that statistically, in this situation, men suck more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:52 AM
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You can be attracted to cuteness in grown adults without attaching that to pedophilia dude. Being in touch with your inner child is attractive to some people, that doesn't mean they want to fuck twelve-year-olds
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:23 AM
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Eh, my friends and I compliment each other. That isn't the same sort of validation though. It's like expecting that because mom says I'm a handsome boy I should feel sexy lmao That said, in reference to the OP, I think in many cases women also just have a lower sex drive and it ain't that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:01 AM
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Oh I don't keep those standards. As long as she's honest and keeps that energy with me I have no problems, no judgment here 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:11 PM
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I'm not 100% sure what you're saying, but I think I agree with it. My use of the word 'risk' was purposeful. There are many sex workers who lead positive lives I'm sure, but speaking logically, there are more risks in that case than with your average woman. Some men don't want to take those risks, because the possibility just ain't worth it to them. In other words, it's a red flag. Not necessarily something bad, but something to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:51 PM
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I... never said otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:09 PM
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Yeah like I'm an introvert too, but you've gotta get out of the house still–some people don't seem to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:35 AM
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I don't know how I can make you understand this, but every man isn't responsible for that stuff, or even approving of it. That shit is no more in men's nature than being meek and servile is in women's nature. It's social conditioning, especially in the case of religion. It's coming to something when you're arguing against common sense. Do you somehow think boys are born into this world with misogyny? Is it just baked-in at the time of baby-manufacture? Or is it more likely there are a group of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:45 AM
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Lol I could say similar awful things about women, if I was to ignore all the good things women do. I haven't been arguing against a strawman, I've been arguing against your warped ideas. You are no different from the black-pillers that say women are fickle, emotional, and disloyal by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:11 AM
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You said nothing to suggest you weren't talking about men as a whole group, so you can hardly blame me for taking you at your word. And no, we aren't going to pretend that a shitty minority of men don't come up with ways to demean women because we aren't braindead. My problem was with your generalization. Now you have specified more, and while it's delusional to think all or most men who watch porn do that shit, at least it's better than all or most men in general. A clear improvement, but still…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:25 PM
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Well your problem is that you're expecting men as a whole to think like the loudest men in this sub. It's important to remember that this is a limited community, not representative of the population at large. It's on reddit, and what's more, it's kind of a dark corner of reddit specially designed to cater to such gripes. I can't speak for everybody, but the men in my circle think sex is important and necessary, but not a first priority. It is one of many important factors in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:02 PM
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See the problem is you are generalizing 50% of the population, much like those men you disagree with might generalize women. I will say, while I don't judge sex workers, sex work is by definition a risky business to attach yourself to. Higher risk for STDs, higher risk that she has crazy admirers, higher risk it will negatively affect your reputation. Not to mention, for many sex is sacred in a relationship, and thus should not be shared with others. So you see, men can disagree with their partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:56 PM
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There are definitely some shitty dudes out there, but have you thought for a second it might be a bit dehumanizing to assume men just want you for sex, or that they think you are less valuable because you've had sex? It's true that men are usually more sex-driven, but that doesn't mean most of us think like that. We are more motivated to fuck in a lot of cases, but there are plenty of us who see that as a very wholesome part of human nature and the human experience, not the perfect opportunity t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:13 PM
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Lol people's feelings are complicated, and it takes a long time with lots of shared experiences to completely sort them out. If people have sex early in the relationship and then part ways, that doesn't necessarily mean there was a deception involved, often it just means that one of the parties did not dig it. There is no person on God's green earth that could convince me I should keep dating somebody that I completely lose attraction for. All attraction isn't physical either. I once had a gal I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:02 PM
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My boyfriend at 16 waited over 2 years... Regardless, OP isn't saying that it's a loss for women to set those boundaries, he's just saying there are pros and cons, like any other decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:55 PM
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You almost never change your mind that drastically after 1 fuck. That sounds... naive, at best. It's definitely possible for the spark to die after banging it out, and it's not anyone's fault in particular. Let me ask you this: If a woman went on a few dates with a guy and liked him enough that she wanted to take it a step further, but after having sex with him, decided she was no longer into it, would you call that a pump-and-dump? If your answer is no, you might be fostering a lovely double-st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:48 PM
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I 100% agree. As with all other decisions, dating decisions have consequences, some good, some bad. If you pay every time, you can't blame others for it–that is your choice. If you put out on the first date, you can't blame others for it–that's your choice. Whether they are good choices or bad choices depends entirely upon your own values.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:42 PM
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Dang, this really gave me some thoughts to sit with this afternoon. O_o
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 07:16 PM
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I will start by saying that I think cheating is fucked no matter who does it, and it's grounds for never seeing somebody again in my book. Many think that it's worse when a woman cheats for a few reasons. When women cheat in secret, it is not uncommon for the partner she cheated on to end up raising a kid that isn't his. However you slice it, that's some traumatic shit. When dudes cheat, it is often about the sex, and that's it. Obviously, that isn't always the case, and that doesn't mean it's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:32 PM
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My good lad, a lot of these answers are great, but I'm here to tell you that Online Dating is garbage, and it WILL fuck up your mental. Please don't feed that beast, for your own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:36 PM
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Ah yes. As we all know, all autistic guys are misogynists. Lmao I'm sorry you experienced that cause it sucks, but come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:06 PM
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No doubt. I've had the same problem in the other direction too, so many folks out here just don't even TRY to get their life right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:22 AM
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Google what? Do you even have an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:04 AM
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Your definition of fat must be different from mine, because I DEFINITELY don't think 70% of women are fat. When men say fat, we mean obese, not chunky chocolate chip. We mean popped biscuit canister, not curvy. When men say they don't want a woman to be fat, what we mean is that we need to be able to find her treasure without a map. That said, I have many standards, most of which are not low, so I don't really have a dog in this fight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:35 AM
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See this is a good, honest, clean take. No bullshit, but reasonable expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:25 AM
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If that's their only standard, they have low fucking standards. That said, much like women, dudes are all different, and so are our standards. I find it appalling what some men and women will put up with in a relationship, personally. I also find it appalling how astronomically high the standards are for some folks lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:17 AM
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Ehhh as with most things, I think TRP is a mixed bag. There is some good shit in there, namely the self-improvement stuff and the focus on accountability, but there is also an awful lot of bad shit in there. If you're discerning with the stuff you watch/read, it can be helpful. Unfortunately, most people aren't exactly what I would call, "discerning" individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:30 AM
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Yeahhhh I don't care about Jordan Peterson, but shitting on him for getting addicted to highly-addictive prescription meds isn't the own you think it is. Actually you are just being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:25 AM
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Are you somehow under the impression that good men have any control over what bad men do? My ex girlfriend treated me like garbage, how did you allow this, u/gabishes?! Like... I get that those dudes are bad, but what, pray tell, am I supposed to do about it? What those people are saying is that YOU are the one in the relationship. YOU have to set your own boundaries. There's not some Board of Directors that sets mandates for male behavior lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:34 PM
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Ahh okay I misunderstood a bit then. In that case, yeah, I wouldn't hold it against him–you are the exception rather than the rule in my experience, I've never been with a woman who has less experience than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:22 PM
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Look honestly, if a dude is THAT concerned about your body count and won't believe you when you tell him the truth, that is entirely a him problem. I do think it's the, "women are dragging you down with them," conclusion, but also it really shouldn't matter that much. What will really scare off the good men is un-managed baggage, lack of accountability, and a bad attitude. To me, it sounds like you have none of those things, so I'd just chalk up any failures due to your perceived body count as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:07 PM
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Oh yeah, we pretty much have the same outlook then. I've been working to cut the ties between my happiness and my dating success gor a while now - just takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:48 PM
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Well good for them dude, maybe you're more privileged than you think if everyone you know is doing well. I didn't start from the bottom, but I started damn close. I'm not saying you're spoiled or anything, but you and I have had very different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:06 AM
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Pairing up once in your lifetime is not really success sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:53 AM
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I'm not going to bother listing the expectations, I'll just say that we're usually expected to do all the masculine shit we've always done, but also to do the shit women have traditionally done, while we don't really expect women to do all the traditionally masculine shit. This is fine if it's divided somewhat equally, but in my (limited) experience it rarely is. As for being successful... Are you blind to the world around you? It's damn near impossible to get property, decent work that doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:52 AM
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What are you on about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:34 AM
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Who are "most men" to you? Something tells me you don't actually know the "most men" that you are referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:33 AM
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Ehhh I get tired of the ceaseless bitching in this sub, but it isn't coming from nowhere. If the bar was that low, it would be easier for men to date. For a great big swathe of men, it is not even approaching easy. It's barely doable at all with the advent of online dating, unless you're a natural socialite, which most people on this sub (and on reddit as a whole) are not. I'm not here to bitch about it, but if you had the same experiences I've had you'd realize introspection only takes you so f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:30 AM
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I'm poor too, that's why I give a shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:20 PM
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Idk about you, but I don't know or associate with anybody who thinks that stuff is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:05 AM
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Okay, so here's my question. What can be done about it? Should men who convince women to sleep with them, but have zero intent to commit, be charged with a crime? If that's the case, would it not be fair to charge women similarly when they do that? Should cheaters be charged with a crime? The problem is, there is no way to solve this problem. It will always be there, unless the people who keep getting into these situations stop getting into them. That means those women are responsible for themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:29 PM
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I can't speak for other men, but for me... The standards for relationship-material change every time I come out of a relationship. For example, I've learned that if she's always on social media and her phone, we probably aren't going to get along. I love nerdy shit and electronics, but when I am with someone I expect them to live in the moment with me sometimes. I've learned that I have very little tolerance for people who refuse to admit they are wrong or take accountability for their actions. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:43 PM
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What does you list look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:24 PM
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I agree that liars and cheats are despicable, but man if someone keeps ending up with liars and cheats they need to sort themselves out. Gotta look within themselves and find out why they attract those people, why they're attracted to those people, and why they tolerate those behaviors. Then they need to change the way they approach dating. If somebody keeps sunbathing without sunscreen and then bitching about the sunburn, most people are not going to have much sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:16 PM
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Says you! The more she's got, the less I need to worry about my own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:11 PM
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Yuuuuup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:31 PM
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For sure, I feel ya. That frustrates me too - my problem is that not all women do that, just like not all men do the shit feminists bitch about, yet many people in this sub completely ignore that fact. (To be clear, I am in no way arguing with you, just talking lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:29 PM
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Look, I'm all for calling out BS, but a lot of these fools are just projecting and generalizing. Men and women aren't separate species, they are both people, with all the complicated crap that brings. There are trends and there are tendencies, but some dudes will literally bitch NON-STOP about how women are so superficial, women just want giga-chad with the giga-chin and pectoral muscles the size of watermelons, then when women turn around and say, "okay you know what, personality matters a lot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:09 AM
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I love how shit loads of dudes in this sub just completely contradict the actual words of actual women answering the question. Can y'all shut the fuck up dude? We get it, you don't trust women. Please go yell it into a pillow or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:20 AM
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It means dude has no life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:21 PM
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Pretty sure that's patently false but aight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:12 AM
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I'm only my way to 30 (27), so not quite the demographic you're asking for, but I think my mentality is probably similar. I've gotten less picky about looks, much, MUCH more picky about brains, values, and attitude. I used to think I could date an idiot, until I tried it. Sucks the soul right out of me to talk about the same mundane shit every day–I'm sorry but you've got to have some interesting thoughts now and then. I thought I could compromise on my values. Turns out, I can only compromise a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:18 AM
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Ehh. There's a difference between "overweight" and "obese". I refuse to date someone who's obese if they don't want to do anything about it. Like, I'm obese too, but I have the good sense to be ashamed of myself–anyone who is proud of that shit is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:42 PM
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That is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:14 AM
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You are free to think so. If you'll notice, she didn't just say yes. She said that I dismissed what she said. That's patently false. I'm not really upset, I just don't leave things unclarified when people decide I was saying something I wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:13 AM
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This post isn't about "car accidents", it's about "motorcycle accidents". This whole post is literally about men's issues in dating, and the fact that so many women push back against them. So you came in and talked about it from a woman's perspective, and then I talked about it from a man's perspective. I literally just asked if you knew what it felt like to be unwanted, and you decided to take that personally, as if I was dismissing your own struggle, when I definitively wasn't. I wasn't trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:10 AM
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Well sure, but online dating is ass in general. You've got to find dates in real life, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:46 AM
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The double standard I was speaking on is that you can sit here, bitch and moan about your issues, yet when I do exactly the same thing (and more succinctly, I might add), I'm "dismissing women's problems." You made all that shit up yourself. I didn't dismiss women's problems. In fact, I acknowledged them. But they weren't what my comment was about. I can't talk about men having issues without you bitching that you have it worse. That's the double-standard. I never said women did anything to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:45 AM
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Some women do take the initiative, and I'm living proof that they don't always go for the most attractive dudes out there because I've been approached before. I'm telling you if more women did take the initiative, women and men would both be a bit happier. Instead we usually get head games and periods of silence so women don't seem "too easy". Also, rather than have some indication of who does and doesn't like us, we get to embarrass ourselves over and over trying to find out. I'm resigned to it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:58 AM
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I literally didn't dismiss it. I didn't SPEAK on it, because I'm not a woman. I spoke on MY experience as a man. I never said you didn't experience sexual assault, or that you didn't experience the same shit men do. And you're out here calling me upset, when all I did was speak on an issue men face. I don't appreciate people putting words in my mouth, and I don't appreciate your stupid fucking double-standard. Don't get all up in your feelings just because I didn't bow to your infinite wisdom ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:53 AM
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100% agree, that's why I don't mess with OLD. Thing is, when I was doing OLD back shortly after Tinder's heyday, I actually had some fun. Some came from OLD, some came from IRL connections. But now? Sheeeeit. It's gotten way harder. Ultimately that doesn't matter so much to me because I'm pretty well calloused at this point, but it's wild seeing so many people claim that the genders are equal on this issue when it is INCREDIBLY skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:45 AM
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MOSTLY shit options. You still have good options, you just have to find them. I don't have good options. See how that works?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:41 AM
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THAT'S a hoot lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:37 AM
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My sister in Christ, I haven't been on a date in three years. I'm pretty average, on balance, aside from the fact I'm not very fashionable and I'm pretty introverted. You are living in a fantasy if you think dozens of mostly-shit options isn't better than 0 options of any sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:33 AM
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Most men would be positively THRILLED if women took the initiative. We're tired of doing all the early work, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:28 AM
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Ah yes, men are dogs lest we forget. Give us something to hump and leave us to our own devices and we'll be happy, that's why we ask women out on dates after all!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:25 AM
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Some of us actually want a connection. Lots of horndogs on this sub, but there be SOME normal dudes lol Trust me when I say y'all have the upper hand on dating too. We have very different problems, and I don't necessarily envy yours, but having to sort through dozens of options to find someone worth your time is vastly superior to finding literally nobody for months or years that is attracted to you (or at least someone who shows/says as much). Most men don't get to have standards, unless they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:17 AM
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I definitely get the thing about negative attention. Really, I do. I imagine it must be absolutely awful, especially when you're young and it's hella inappropriate. That said, have you ever gone four years without a single compliment, date, kiss, or flirty text? It's a very different, very desolate kind of personal hell, I can attest–and lots of men go without for FAR longer than that. You start to wonder if there's something wrong with you, or if you have no redeeming qualities. And god forbid …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:12 AM
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You just woke up this morning and chose 'truth' and frankly I'm here for it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:05 AM
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As a dude, that's kinda bullshit. Out of 10 or 20 women I see one will catch the eye in particular, but I can tell you that for every 10 women (of the right age), I would probably be willing to give it a shot with at least 5 of them. Most of the 5 I wouldn't is simply because they are too overweight for me, they smell, or they have some look or style that turns me off, like caking makeup, or having a face I really don't like. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just not my vibe. I'm not h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:01 AM
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When I hear 'male privilege' without qualifiers, I assume people are talking about our perceived competence in the workplace. People have never assumed I had no idea what I was doing just because I'm a man. There are definitely female privileges too, and I would wager there are probably many more than men have, but to say there is no male privilege is fucking silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:52 PM
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Either way it's absolute bullshit. Women are not a monolith, just like men aren't. Is it so damn hard to see women as unique people with their own thoughts and feelings? Of course there are SOME women that do that shit, but if you think all or even most women do that... yikes buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:06 PM
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What logic is flawed, and how exactly did he point it out? Dude just suggested that it's in women's nature to shelf husband material. There was no flaw mentioned, and no objective indication that he was right. Come on bro, and least try to talk some sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:44 AM
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You realize you are literally showing yourself to be the guy they're talking about right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:17 AM
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If you find a partner through casual sex, it seems pretty fulfilling to me. Not judging folks that aren't interested in it - just disputing that casual sex has no real value. It's a trade-off, as with most things in life. I've talked to plenty of people, men and women, who enjoyed it a lot 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:47 PM
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It can be. The world isn't so black and white, my dude. Many couples started with casual sex ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:07 PM
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Some people fucking suck, man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:30 PM
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Certainly not all men, you're right. I usually avoid generalizing. I've been used as a stiff dick by women before too, though... and while I much prefer proper intimacy, I wasn't complaining. And if my options were no sex or casual sex, I'd take the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:07 PM
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I didn't mean that women hold men down necessarily, I was more using the analogy as a point of comparison. Robber barons usually have no problem getting chicken, while Mr. Gutters gets chicken rarely, if ever. It's not a perfect analogy 😂 Women definitely have dating struggles too, I'm just pointing out that, on the average, they aren't even close to the same crap men experience in dating. It ain't the misery olympics though, just trying to offer my perspective on it. Thankfully, while I haven't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:00 PM
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I don't get why people are like this. Is it so hard to just appreciate and cherish your partner? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:16 PM
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Fair enough. You've got to realize something, though. While for you, separating the wheat from the chaff is a full-time job, many men (in this analogy) have been unemployed for years despite putting in applications all over town. So while I commiserate, it's like hearing a robber-baron complain that their roast chicken is too tough while you're dying in a gutter and nobody will even look you in the eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:14 PM
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That's because men usually see sex as the purest form of intimacy. We also just don't get much intimacy outside of sex. Not all sex is intimate, but our maximum potential for intimacy is during sex, if that makes sense. So I definitely agree that there is such a thing as unfulfilling sex. However, as men we derive most of our value from what women think of us. It's not a perfect system. It's messy, sometimes very unhealthy. But it's how we're wired/conditioned. As a man, just about the worst thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:08 PM
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Out of curiosity, do you think the men who barely get dates are somehow always going on those few dates with women who care about them in any way, shape, or form? I can tell you from personal experience that women pull that shit too. I was in a relationship with a woman for 3 months before I realized she didn't actually want me, but rather wanted someone who will make out with her, do her chores, buy her pretty things, and listen to all her problems without complaint. When it came to my problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:28 AM
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As a guy who has been with a few women, but was a virgin until 24... STRONG disagree. I'm not getting any these days, but at least I have some memories, and some internal evidence that I'm not worthless to the opposite sex. Before that I never even kissed a woman, and bro honestly that shit was enough to almost drive me suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:18 AM
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Ayyy it's this one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:14 AM
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You know what, that's a great point. The economic burden of dating falls almost wholly on the shoulders of men, so it really should be no surprise that they are struggling. But also... Even when you meet all of the requirements in your comment it do be hard to get dates. It's even harder to get a date that doesn't have the personality of a brick wall with a notepad and zero fucks to give lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:06 AM
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Men generally aren't interested in dating their male friends...? It ain't that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:59 PM
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Idk if you've never seen a straight biological male interact with other straight biological males in your life or what, but romance really isn't part of the 'friends' package, chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:50 PM
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To be 'assertive' is to have or show a forceful or confident personality - in other words, to 'assert' your will. So being assertive means doing what you want / what you deem necessary, without worrying what others think too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:25 PM
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I didn't read it as feminine people are weak, insecure, and incapable. Speaking in generalization (which is inherently flawed, but that's the manner in which y'all are discussing the issue), he is saying that women find assertiveness attractive. Which, tbh, pretty much tends to be the case. He is implying that because women tend to be attracted to masculine traits, and they select for assertiveness and confidence, that assertiveness and confidence must be masculine traits. It's not that wild of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:07 AM
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As a dude, that mentality is hilarious to me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:19 PM
1

And yet "the bar is on the floor" O_o
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:13 PM
1

I'm not ugly. I'm probably about average, maaaaaybe slightly more handsome than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:52 AM
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See, people like to think they aren't capable of evil and toxic shit, but the truth is that we are self-interested creatures, and if circumstances lined up right, the vast majority of us are weak enough to succumb to it. The Qultists, for example, have been primed by years and years and years of propoganda and crappy news to believe just about anything if it comes from the right people. Most of them aren't genuine idiots, they are astray The same is true of misogynists. Sure, there are "true bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:42 PM
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Not a red-piller but you're kinda missing the point. It wouldn't wound them so if their heart wasn't in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:22 AM
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Thirding "the little things." Literally if a girl just reminds me that she wants me, that she respects me, and that she cares about me, I am putty in her hands. I have a married coworker who treats me like this (but in an entirely platonic fashion), and I struggle to stay appropriate sometimes because I've literally never received that kind of treatment from a woman I've dated, so it's very moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:17 AM
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I think we have different ideas of what romance is. I couldn't give less of a shit about an arbitrary date on the calendar–I want daily romance. The little things. Reassuring squeezes, my favorite cheeseburger from my favorite spot, compliments, time spent together, passionate sex, fun days out. Who needs a frickin' anniversary when you treat each other in a nauseatingly romantic fashion every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:13 AM
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I can't speak for other men of this sub, but the only thing that matches me here is that I do prefer for my partner to be fit and pretty, and I really don't give a shit about calendar dates. Why? Because they're arbitrary. I barely find it in me to care about Christmas, and the only reason I do is because it's a cultural thing and one of the few times my family has ever been able to get along. To me, romance is love shown intentionally, all the time, not once a year. I cannot tell you how much i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:01 AM
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I can't speak for other men, but my (27M) experience is that a lot of ladies, even exceptionally kind ones, tend to be very passive in the dating phase. They never message first, or if they do it's something really low-effort in an attempt to get me to start the real conversation. They expect me to entertain them on a date and take all initiative in the conversation. Somehow, they expect us to have "chemistry" when getting them to engage without explicit prompting is like drawing blood from a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:42 AM
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I understand why the question is being asked, as there are plenty of shit men out there, but ngl it kinda feels insulting. To answer your question... Obviously. I admire my late grandma, my mom, my sisters, my boss, and hell, most of my coworkers. I don't know what kind of jackass limits their admiration to one gender, but they sure ain't my kind of jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:40 AM
1

You're welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:18 PM
1

Do I indeed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:08 PM
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An offensively imperfect one at best, though I didn't even like the OG post so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:52 AM
3

That's bait
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:44 PM
1

Did I touch a nerve?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:02 PM
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I'm literally on reddit. If I were looking to pick up chicks, this would hardly be the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:40 PM
1

Whatever floats your boat I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:26 PM
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Nah, they aren't my type 🤷‍♂️ Just because you'll fuck anything that moves and you're incapable of seeing women as people, that does not mean other men are like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:24 PM
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While I don't COMPLETELY disagree, I think the problem is a bit different for most people, especially on this sub. Let's be real, most of us are nerds, and we probably don't get out much. As such, we get lonely, breed shitty attitudes, let it fester, develop more serious personality issues, and many of us, at least on the men's side of things, become so thirsty it's hard to even make friends with pretty girls because we're so hopped up on testosterone and desperation. So while I agree that self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:59 PM
2

Your life sounds fucking depressing dude xD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:30 PM
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Sure yeah, that's why my female friends hang out with me–not because we like to watch anime and eat good food. That would be inconceivable because we have to stay in our boxes, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:29 PM
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That still isn't true. There have been a great many relationships where one or both parties were not interested at the start, but the dynamic changes. Maybe the girl whispers something totally innocent in his ear and it flips a switch. Maybe he unintentionally bumps into her and she smells his cologne, and now she sees him differently. Relationships are organic, you can't stuff everything into neat little boxes because that's not how people work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:53 AM
0

I don't know what men you're listening to, but you gotta find some new ones cause they're defective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:49 AM
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It is not a "waste of time" to get to know other people. If you genuinely feel that way, I'd imagine you're going to have a very hard time dating. Or, you know, making female friends at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:42 AM
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As a dude, you are absolutely full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:33 AM
3

Yeah I know, you're actively avoiding the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:53 AM
3

It was not a brag, ding-dong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:57 AM
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Yes. Are you approaching a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:33 AM
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are you saying rape victims are responsible for being raped? Nope. I have no earthly idea how you managed to twist that shit in your head. I said that I've managed thus far to isolate myself from that sort of behavior. That wasn't blaming victims, but rather showing that not everyone is out to get you. There are plenty of people, hell, A MAJORITY of people who do not tolerate that shit in their presence. Most people aren't raping each other. It's a huge problem, but it is not everyone. do you me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:15 AM
1

Yikes. Ngl homie you sound ugly on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:13 AM
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Imagine, if you will, that you really, REALLY love chocolate. Maybe you already do, doesn't matter. Imagine that every time you see chocolate, or at least every time you see a yummy candy bar, you are filled with a longing to eat it. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Imagine that you are told from a young age that you are supposed to love chocolate, and that the main reason to get a job, clean yourself, and otherwise eat right is so that you can afford to eat candy all the time. Literally, your entire life h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:12 PM
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I mean, speaking from a "biological imperative" perspective, yes. Thankfully we as humans are a bit more complicated than that, but the vast majority of dudes are literally down at all times with most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:53 PM
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I don't think we're talking about the same thing. What I'm saying is that ideally a couple should be able to get together, be intimate, be sweet, be sexy, and progress the relationship, with good enough communication to work through the hangups. Most of the men I know (which is anecdotal, can't speak for everyone) just want an attractive woman that they can trust, be 100% themselves around, and who plays with their junk because they want to, not because they feel obligated to. They don't want dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:24 AM
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Honestly I think it's a shame. The expectations of other people shape us so much that sometimes we act against what's best for us. It'd be cool if people could just meet somewhere in the middle. Stop sleeping around with any ol' person, and be sweet to each other without being stuffy old people about it. But alas, the world's more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:56 PM
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Here's my thing. If a woman wants to do that, cool. Good for her. I don't. Now I'm not saying I couldn't wait a month or two to get to know each other, or if she's a friend maybe longer because we might have a lot of complications to navigate. But man, sex is such an important part of a relationship for me, and I'm not getting younger. I'm not going to spend a whole six months of my life or longer with perpetual frustration and insecurity like that. And trust me, after six months (except in very…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:35 PM
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Ehhhh it really depends my guy. I think that most people are damaged in some fashion, and most damaged folks had a poor family model growing up. Most of us, consciously or subconsciously, try to recreate that family we were brought up in, because that's what's comfortable and "normal" to us. It's not surprising that so many women chase assholes when their fathers were/are assholes, or that so many men chase manipulative women when their mothers were/are manipulative. Obviously some people active…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:25 PM
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Idk about "pick of the litter," but it is certainly easier for women to find somebody, especially on online platforms because men tend to outnumber them a lot, but alas... It ain't that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:34 AM
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Sure, and I've spoken to a few women who whine about men being pigs then turn around and sleep through entire friend groups, what's your point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:32 AM
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The same. Nobody gets a free pass for shitty behavior around me. You might want to challenge whatever assumptions you entered this comment chain with, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:35 AM
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You bet! Ya boi hates double-standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:08 AM
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That's very kind of you to say, though experience would say otherwise. Probably just haven't met the right gals, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:10 PM
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It's not that unbelievable. There are plenty of women who only seem to run into shitty dudes–as such, there are also plenty of dudes who only seem to run into shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:30 AM
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None of that "they" business, don't lump me in with King Dickhead over there xD
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:27 AM
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I think it's idiotic to think all the blame, or even the lion's share of the blame, rests on a single gender's shoulders in a society filled with literally millions/billions of people. There is a large grouping of shitty male behavior that contributes to the problem, and there is a large grouping of shitty female behavior that contributes to the problem. However, in general, I agree with most of what you're saying. Men SHOULD raise their standards. That said, it ain't gonna happen for everyone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:21 AM
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Can't speak for all men, as we aren't a monolith, but literally none of my friends do that. We give each other a solid, "Fuck yeah," when we brag about good dates or, sure, when we brag about getting laid, but we also don't just sleep around. On the rare occasion that I have slept around, I didn't keep it a secret. The girls I was with knew the score, and we usually had a great time. Idk, I haven't associated with men that idolize shitty behavior like that since highschool, and I don't think I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:13 AM
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Look, I feel you, but the men who listen to you are not in those positions of power and have no control over what other men do, outside of their little circles. Many of us are also angry that other men get away with that shit, but what exactly can we do? I know that personally, if I have a friend who harasses women, I give them a single chance to straighten up before I ghost them. If I have a friend that assaults a woman (non-consentually grabs, gropes, or worse), they get that talk and if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:03 AM
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Women are not a monolith, and all of our experiences, while sometimes shared, are our own. Don't get it twisted, "all women" are no particular way. My bad experiences haven't so much been of dehumanization as they were a total lack of decency and respect. Ghosting for one. I get it, some dudes are awful and they say mean things if you reject them, yadda yadda yadda. The block button is there for a reason, use it. It's not an excuse. I've grown out of taking it personally, but it took a lot of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:18 PM
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As a fellow funny-man, there is a 0% chance I would have lost my virginity when I did without being a jokey self-destructive mess lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:52 PM
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I think the point was that women see men as NPCs, not that women are NPCs. Not stating agreement either way, just clarifying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:45 PM
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No. But, when they take care of themselves their attractiveness depreciates less than those around them, and in comparison to the other dues their age, they will stand out. Think of it like this, and forgive the objectification. Your busted old car breaks down, and you're back on the market. Is a 2012 Ford Escape in good condition more valuable than a 2020 Ford Escape in good condition? Hell no. But it's a lot better than a beat-up 2012 Ford Escape, and people shopping for 2012 Ford Escapes like…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:52 AM
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Dating can be incredibly fun. Unfortunately, I am something of a homebody so I suck at coming up with spontaneous date ideas, and I'm much better company in an intimate setting like my apartment... But you can't just ask ladies to hang out at your home for the first date, so they end up seeing my awkward side quite often instead of my confident side. Also, you'd never believe how many flaky women are out here. I realize that they've probably been cussed out, debated with, and insulted when they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:24 PM
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Something I keep hearing is that many women operate off of social proofs. "She's dating him, so he must be pretty great." I can't say if it's true or not, but that kinda tracks with my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:23 AM
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Man that's a whole barrel of yikes. If anything, I'd see it as, "okay cool, this person doesn't have baggage from a bunch of failed relationships."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:24 PM
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Yeah... I was saying that as long as you aren't saying misogynist shit, it's totally reasonable. We agree my guy, chill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:33 PM
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I agree. But, I also understand that the conversation was specifically in reference to women, so I don't really hold it against anybody to speak in a gendered way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:45 PM
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I think you might have responded to the wrong comment, chief
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:53 PM
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So then... many do not bring quality companionship, and that is likely when the other poster is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:51 PM
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I think the point here is that many women don't bring quality companionship. To use one of my past relationships as an example, I was with a gal who I was really into, and I would surprise her with little gifts, do her dishes, and generally show her affection in every way I could. In response, once she "had me," she would dick around on her phone while we cuddled on the couch, give me terse, one-word responses, and generally take zero initiative when it came to affection, be it physical, emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:50 AM
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Idk, once I've talked to someone for a decent amount of time I definitely ask about her values, what she wants in a partner, and what she brings to a relationship. I think that's a necessary conversation to have. But I certainly wouldn't frame it the way the other person did, so I suppose that's a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:30 AM
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Idk, why should someone who wants sex accept your idea of "interest"? If desires aren't aligning, there's nothing wrong with keeping it moving–sans any misogynist rhetoric, that's just being an adult about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:27 AM
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I don't think this is true for all men, but certainly for some. There's an immense social pressure for men to NOT be virgins. People can hug it out and encourage them and deny it all they want, but when a man is a virgin past a certain age, people start to wonder what's wrong with him, which makes dating and especially sex much more difficult. That, combined with the feeling of missing out, makes for a very compelling motivation to bang it out with some woman, ANY woman. I can say from experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:14 AM
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Not gonna lie, as an introverted man with primarily masculine interests... I'm pretty much fumbling in the dark these days. I try not to gripe about it, but as someone that tries not to blow money on foolish stuff, it seems damn-near impossible to get to know anybody that I don't already have some sort of relationship with. My main hobbies are writing (socialization is primarily online), videogames/anime (second verse same as the first), and martial arts (EXPENSIVE). I'm open to ideas, but that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:34 PM
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Tutor for local community college, soon a Peer Support Specialist for the local state-funded mental health organization
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:33 AM
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Isn't that wild? The way some people place expectations on potential partners that they themselves cannot meet is just silly to me. AT THE VERY LEAST you should be able to meet your own standards, or you shouldn't be dating until you can. You're right, it's totally common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:51 AM
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Ehhhh I see what you're saying, but men (with standards) do this too. Man or woman, you don't want to be the person somebody, "settled for," unless you are a very sad, unfulfilled person. I do think women do it more, but that's probably because there are dudes throwing themselves at them all the time, whereas men rarely get approached, and have to "make their own opportunities," and are thus more incentivized to not waste them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:13 AM
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I'm ashamed to admit I stuck with an emotionally manipulative/abusive partner for almost five months. It was literally only five months, and by the end of it I was emotionally wrecked. I can't imagine getting MARRIED to someone like that. I would probably be broken if I were in his position.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:00 AM
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Hol' up, this doesn't confirm my preconceived notions of how people work!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:33 AM
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As a dude, can we PLEASE talk about SOMETHING else? Just for a couple days? Fuck me, man, it's every god damn day with this shit. Yes, it's unfair. No, it's not going to change any time soon. Please, for the love of God, get over it and realize that looks aren't everything, and if they are everything to the people you're chasing, you're chasing the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:38 PM
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That is entirely your perogative, nothing wrong with that - but don't be surprised when you're getting with dudes who are traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:59 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean to be honest. In your other comment it sounded like you didn't trust men that accept it when you say you want to split the bill, which seems backwards if you ask me. That's just respecting someone's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:19 AM
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That sounds like a "you" problem. I would offer to pay on the first date every time, but if a woman wants to go half-n-half, I'm not playing games so I'll just shrug and accept that. I'll probably gain respect for her too if she follows through without giving me any shit later. If my date is too immature to set aside the BS and focus on connecting with me, I'm not interested anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:49 AM
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Man, I can't imagine turning down halfsies. That's the greenest flag of all, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:30 AM
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If they are asexual, that's just an incompatibility for me. I've got a high libido, so it's just a recipe for disaster. If they struggle with past trauma... They've got to be a very alluring person to me, but for the right person I'd absolutely be willing to wait and work through that stuff with her. I'd probably cap it at half a year or so though. I would never use the word "waste" for time spent on a relationship, but after six months with nothing sexual I'm just going to lose interest. Physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:08 PM
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Shockingly, people who like sex tend to want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:02 PM
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I'm good. We can be really good friends, and if I'm single we can be romantically affectionate perhaps, but sex is a requirement for a romantic relationship in my eyes. If it wasn't, I'd just be in a relationship with one of my buds already lmao EDIT to add: If sex came off the table after I've built up a commitment to somebody, I don't know if I'd be able to stick with them or not. It's one thing if that happens due to old age, but if I get married and the wife goes for some dead-bedroom nonsen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:55 PM
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Thank you for having an open mind. It's always very refreshing to see on any of the contentious topics. :)
/r/MensRights25/04/22 04:33 AM
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Oof, this one's too real lol
/r/MensRights25/04/22 04:18 AM
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This whole bit gets a big ol' yikes from me. Speak for yourself, homie, some of us actually have standards for ourselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:21 PM
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Make sure he has a true friend or two his own age. Teach him the basics of how to fight and stand up for himself. Before you ever teach him how to fight, teach him that he should never fight unless he or someone else is genuinely threatened. Model this behavior, and teach him how to de-escalate situations. Teach him that just because someone insults him, that doesn't mean it's true. His self-worth should never be determined by others–this one's really hard, and not everybody is capable of it, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:56 PM
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Eh, I just call 'em feminists unless they are making misandrist claims (happens quite often), in which case I call them misandrists. I ain't judging though.
/r/MensRights23/04/22 09:17 PM
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Ah, well I never clicked anyway because I was already familiar 😂
/r/MensRights23/04/22 09:15 PM
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Yeah, I've seen that one - what a shitshow lmao. That said, I try to avoid negative labels like "feminazi" as well. Too easy to get caught up in identity politics that way. Lots of stooges out there on the left and the right who use those labels to manipulate discussion and turn people on each other
/r/MensRights23/04/22 09:11 PM
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Ngl I ain't really down with generalizing to this extent. While I have seen the behavior of going after taken people more in women, I've definitely seen plenty of men who didn't give a flying fuck too. It's not a gender thing, it's a shitty-person-with-insecurities thing. That said, I do think that women more often tend to be attracted to taken guys, because they are social/emotional thinkers, and someone putting up with his shit means that his shit is worth putting up with, at least in theory. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:36 PM
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If you are a man, and you want to succeed at attracting the women you want, you need to put effort into your looks, you need to workout, you need to get some money (not a fortune, but enough), you need to work on your hygiene, you need to set proper boundaries, and you need to have a spine. The same is true for women, except you can sub out the money for making his life easier. Men will put up with a LOT of shit, if you just help them out with chores, show that you value their time, and give the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:13 AM
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Brother... You're just flat-out wrong. There are certainly some women out there who want monstrous dick, but the vast majority can't even cum from PIV sex lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:03 AM
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Well first and foremost, nobody "deserves" anybody in the first place lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:01 AM
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Damn homie. I kinda get the logic, but while people may get models for relationships from their parents they aren't locked into those models lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:59 PM
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As someone who loves both dogs and cats, I had an ex who would treat me like a second-class citizen when her dog was in the room lmao Was like, "really dude?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:50 PM
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It's not a good way to get pumped and dumped or strung along if you aren't picking exclusively jackasses
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:34 PM
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Yeahhhh no. Strong, STRONG disagree. Some people are only into vanilla shit, some people like adventurous sex, some people like sex with pain in it, some people like sex with watersports, etc, etc. Some people like a lot of sex, some people would prefer less sex. Don't get me wrong, there should be some compromise if you want to make a relationship work with someone who isn't necessarily 100% compatible with you, but incompatibility is a serious issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:53 AM
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Huh, I'm on here and MadeMeSmile certainly hasn't banned me.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 12:43 AM
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I have yet to truly hunt down his stuff, but everything I've seen thus far portrays him as an optimistic, positive man who simply strives to help people, and doesn't like it when his words are twisted to support ideologies he doesn't support. Yet all I ever hear from people is that he's an alt-right nutjob and that he's just using dog-whistles instead of being direct about his views. Seems like bullshit so far.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 12:40 AM
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There are definitely some misogynists that muck about in this sub, but they are pretty regularly called out from what I've seen. I, too, welcome feminists', or simply women's voices in here. It's good for conversation and it's good for testing biases.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 12:34 AM
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Idk, when I was coming up ladies were all over the older guys, and it wasn't for relationships lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:55 PM
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I think this is true quite often, but there are also genuine relationships that crop up sometimes. Older dudes are generally more established, and know what they're about. Makes sense some young ladies would be interested in that. Just like some young bucks are interested in older women because they don't play games, they are direct. Idk, personally I ain't interested in having a large age gap, but I also don't reject women out-of-hand just because there is one. Seems kinda like shooting yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:53 PM
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As a 27 year old, you're full of shit. If we're going purely off anecdotal evidence, hell two of the happiest people I know are in a relationship with a 13-year age gap. There was no grooming, she just liked older men because they know what they're about. Now they're in their 40's/50's with two kids that have left the nest, built their own house on their own property, have a garden, the whole shebang.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:49 PM
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I do believe that is what the kids call an "outlier"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:44 PM
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That is correct. See? You can read
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 07:35 PM
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I'm not a feminist dipshit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 07:33 PM
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That's not what I said. Being rejected is not as bad as being scared for your physical well-being. It just isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:58 PM
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Whaaaaat, no way
/r/MensRights17/04/22 04:24 PM
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Thanks! You too. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 04:02 PM
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Sorta. I used to be very down-in-the-dumps because I was struggling to date, but exposing myself to this subreddit meant exposing myself to some INSANE, RADICAL opinions. For some reason, seeing some of the vilest, whiniest, shittiest takes on the platform has made me feel better, in that I'm acutely aware that other people have felt the same way, and don't have all the answers. Not only that, but even when they STRONGLY disagree, many of them are still able to find some common ground. I realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 04:06 AM
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As someone who thinks rejection sucks ass, not accepting a rejection is much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:54 AM
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She was pansexual, which I was 100% cool with. What made me uncomfortable, though, is that she would legit LUST over chicks from her shows and such, or talk about how her friend is so hot, etc. Basically, she said all the stuff you want to hear, but she never said it about me. Always others, but because it was women, she thought it was fine. Also had a tendency to be condescending when I made honest mistakes, made me feel small for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:16 AM
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For sure, I 100% think that men get what they tolerate. It's just a shame that we usually don't listen to that advice until we experience this shit firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:54 AM
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I've had a mixed experience in this regard. I've had a few girlfriends; the two very short-term girlfriends were 100% supportive and okay with emotional conversations, though I admittedly didn't cry with them. The other one, the longer-term girlfriend... She appeared supportive when I broke down while we were re-hashing some rough experiences from our past. Thing is, her idea of rough was a friend-breakup. My life... hasn't been quite as blessed, to make a long story short. I think that deep dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:04 AM
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I'm talking about myself, not other men. Frankly I think anal's something I'd like to try a couple times for the hell of it, but nothing I'd need, or like to do on the regular. It certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker. But go off, dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:42 PM
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Yeah no, I'd break up for sure. But honestly it's more about the lie than "omg she won't let me do nasty stuff 😩"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:06 PM
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Possibly. That's why I said I logically know it's probably not about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:03 PM
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Look dude, most chicks like danger and status as long as the dude has no shame about it; do with that information what you will, but understand that it isn't going to change. There are always exceptions. You can either hold out for the exception, get in the dirt with the crazies, or step back from the whole shebang, but it is what it is. Guys who are bad news have always and will always drown in it because they have that cocky vibe that makes certain body parts tingle. The lesson I take from thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:09 AM
1

Sleeping with women is easy Yeah okay sure thing bud lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:56 AM
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Dude made it pretty clear, he was talking about having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:55 AM
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He shouldn't feel any particular kind of way, except how he feels. He can be deeply hurt by that, or he can be totally cool with it; that's entirely up to him and his gut. I know how I'd feel, and I'd feel lied to and used, so I'd probably terminate that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:14 AM
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Word. Men should be less accommodating of (some) women's bullshit. If you want a husband, be a wife. If you want a wife, be a husband. Part of being married is being honest, and in this scenario she wasn't being honest to him about her past, while he wasn't being honest to her (or possibly even himself) about his own desires. Both people in that situation are clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:03 AM
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Well yeah, but I specifically meant that service/tax dimension of it. I agree that it should be everyone, not just men.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 04:00 AM
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Okay bud, take a shot, spin around ten times, and then please find your way back to your seat because holy moly that is the coldest take I've seen in a hot minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:59 AM
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Where were you when I was wrapped around my narcissistic ex's finger?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:55 AM
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I agree with this, but would like to add that the point of the post is that the woman in that situation is showing her long-term person less of her sexy, adventurous side than she's shown to other men. While a man is very capable of understanding that comparison is the death of happiness, it's pretty much impossible to not think about that shit. Keeps you up at night thinking, "Damn, am I really so unappealing that she's unwilling to try all this fun stuff I want to try?" Like... From a logical …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:49 AM
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You know what? I think Switzerland has the right idea there. If you don't serve, you pay. That's totally fair, I feel, as you're still contributing to the effort, but you aren't forced to commit violence and risk your life.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:43 AM
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I think senseless violence is abhorrent, but if you had to watch those fuckers run over your neighbors in tanks, blow up your home with shells, rape then kill your wives (and kids!), and you caught them out, tell me you wouldn't make them feel that pain. I have no illusions, I'm just a man, I'm no saint; if that shit happened to me I'd become a savage real quick.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 03:40 AM
1

That's totally fine and healthy. Telling them about your partner's private issues is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:56 AM
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I agree. Your friends aren't your therapists, and they have no obligation to keep the information to themselves, so you don't tell them sensitive shit about your partner. It's really simple, believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:51 AM
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Does anybody know how this mechanism actually works? Sounds pretty fucking un-democratic if you ask me.
/r/MensRights10/04/22 01:06 AM
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Ding ding ding. People don't like it when other people have standards or quirks that disqualify them. It's human nature. It's just that now we have a place to bitch about it without serious social judgment/consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 09:35 PM
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This seems... dramatic. Things have definitely gotten weird with the proliferation of what I like to call "Rabid" Feminism (talking about the extremists here, not the regular folks), but society isn't crumbling due to gender issues, it's crumbling due to economic issues exacerbated by gender issues. The gender issues might become that important if people are ever able to sustain themselves without 3 jobs and a kidney garage sale, but right now the thing killing us is the avarice of the haves and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 01:38 PM
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Sorry, I don't need to tell my bestie what that mouf do, or vent to him about my SO's deepest insecurities. Guess I'm just stable like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:06 AM
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Well there ya go. If they can't take criticism, don't like you talking about it with others, and you feel the need to tell somebody about it, breaking up is the right choice. Gossiping against a partner's wishes is chicken-shit. Breaking up means you have a spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:39 AM
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And I'm sure they vastly prefer that you gossip about their teeny peens or lack of bedroom skills with all your friends, thus damaging their sexual reputation if you ever break up. Come on, it's not that hard to consider your partner's feelings. If they can't take criticism, break up dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:54 AM
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I don't necessarily agree with all of these particular boundaries, but it's wild to me the pushback this post is getting specifically for: It is ok to not want her to gossip and divulge your relationship secrets to her friends. Like... Do you ladies hear yourselves? Would you be cool with your partner telling all his friends about shit you're embarrassed about, or about all your nastiest bedroom antics? Some women have a tendency to pick at scabs with their partners. I had an ex that, in the mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:49 AM
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I would MUCH rather she straight-up tell me I suck in bed. That's kinda how you get better my dude. Women expecting men to read their minds is why y'all need that "girl-talk" in the first place tf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:39 AM
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I ain't really into TRP, so maybe I'm off-base with them. In my personal experience, every man that I have ever had the slightest respect for would step in if a woman clearly needed someone to step in. I don't do the whole identity politics thing; I can only speak to my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:54 PM
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Gonna need you to change your post bro; it's too hard to twist into misogynist quips.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:48 PM
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You right, I'mma go back to my troll cave and look up MGTOW videos ad nauseum and take every second as gospel
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:06 PM
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Hol' up. Are you saying we can form our own opinions instead of dogmatically following internet advice? gasp
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:40 PM
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I have never seen even a RedPiller call it cuck behavior to protect a woman who is genuinely being threatened. I'm sure in some dank corner of that sub there are a few who think that way, but you really can't base your opinion of the entire male gender on a minority within a minority. Most confident men will step in. If they are too selfish to do it because they have an instinct to protect, they are at the very least salivating at the notion of having their "hero moment." Anyone who calls the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:39 PM
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I'm keepin it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:56 AM
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You right, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:19 AM
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My bad bro, saw the tag and didn't pay attention to the username 😂 But yeah, no normal woman is gonna pay your rent cause you put it down
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:42 PM
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She ain't wrong bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:31 PM
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Man, this is a nuanced issue. Every single woman who thinks your funny is not interested in riding you like Seabiscuit; it's simply a good sign. A sign which you have to read, and thus, which can be misinterpreted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:45 PM
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I would say your instincts are right. It's a manipulation of language. "The Patriarchy," is not "men," it is the ruling class, which really has nothing to do with maleness in this day and age. Not to sound too bitter, but generally speaking if you listen to "Capital F" Feminists, women are victims of the system who can't be blamed for their shortcomings, while men "run the system" and can be blamed. Women have Hypoagency, Men have Hyperagency. Frankly I don't believe that most people who run in …
/r/MensRights05/04/22 07:20 PM
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Thank you for reading and understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:56 PM
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See, I didn't even call you mad or upset, you put those words in my mouth. Again. And for the record, I absolutely do check dudes in men-dominated spaces when I think they're out of line, which is relatively often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:22 AM
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If it wasn't obvious, every man isn't in every place at every time, and thus we don't have control over every thing that ever happens. There are bad men out there, and we cannot necessarily do anything about it. Do I hold you responsible for every time a woman does a man wrong? Get the fuck outta here man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:48 AM
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I didn't need to acknowledge specific facts, because I already accept them to be true, and that's pretty clear by the way I speak on the issue. Evidently you do have a problem with caring about both, because you're jumping down my throat for shit I'm not responsible for and grandstanding about shit I already agree with to drown out any point I make. I'm no longer responding to you. I've no interest in talking to a brick wall, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:46 AM
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I do understand that. You are saying that I'm not listening, but I understand exactly what you're saying. Nowhere in this thread, literally nowhere, have I said that sexual assault and rape are non-issues. I said that there is ALSO another problem, that problem being the generalization of men as predators. You keep presenting this as if I'm suggesting women stop vetting their partners, or prioritizing their own safety! I'm not saying that! Again, you are building yourself a convenient little str…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:14 AM
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It literally doesn't take precedent over women's safety. I'm not dismissing the danger to women. It is VERY WELL ESTABLISHED that rape and sexual assault is bad. Nobody is fumbling in the dark here. Literally, every day we are all inundated with that message. It's out there. If people are still raping and committing sexual assault, one more comment talking about it isn't going to convince them, because they are garbage human beings who don't care what we think. Men don't talk about rape being ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:02 AM
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Christ you're dense. Be ignorant then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:31 AM
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That is totally fine. Taking your personal safety seriously is not only fine, it is necessary. Trust me, my problem is not with that. My problem is with the rhetoric people use, because that rhetoric points almost exclusively at men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:26 AM
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It's not irrational, and it's not like men are brainwashed to believe we are rapists. The problem isn't men thinking, "Oh gosh, guess I'm a rapist!" The problem is that men are leading very lonely, unfulfulling lives because they are so worried about being perceived as a creep, or a "potential rapist." Men who genuinely have only good intentions. The original commenter didn't say you should ignore the problems of rape and sexual assault, he said we need to stop generalizing rape and sexual assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:23 AM
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They weren't trying to seduce you either, were they?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:16 AM
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On the stats for SA, a big reason those stats are so skewed, iirc, is that they used a specific classification for rape that requires PIV, thus pretty much exonerating women from the stats for rape. I might be thinking of something else though, take that with a pinch of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:14 AM
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It is rather odd how when you offer practical solutions that basically require you to take responsibility for your own safety, so many people act like you're victim-blaming or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:11 AM
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This. 100% this. Any person worth a shit, man or woman, is opposed to sexual assault. That shit is terrifying to think about, much less experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:09 AM
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No kidding! I think that people should be realistic and not assume dudes are rapists, but for real it's not like people who do that shit have "Potential Sex Offender" stamped on their foreheads. They are often very emotionally intelligent and manipulative. That's why women (and men, tbh) need to be careful who they run with, and need to pay attention for red flags. Dude is wildin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:03 AM
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It's a very particular type of "man" that is pretty easy to spot in the wild. As a dude, you're absolutely wrong about this one. There are PLENTY of sly sickos out there, and I have had the dubious pleasure to know a couple of them. I agree that people need to be realistic and not simply assume a man is a predator, but people who present with that sort of psychopathic behavior are often VERY aware of social perceptions, and good at manipulating people to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:57 AM
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I hate to say it, but when men go out of their way to be that aggressively supportive... They're often full of shit. That's the same type of guy who, instead of being honest about his values and such on the first date, will agree with anything you say because he's spineless and desperate. I say this as a man who's inadvertently known a couple of creepy mfs in my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:53 AM
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Not very, because I'm reasonably attractive and I carry conversation well. One of my friends, on the other hand, definitively does not have the juice. Kinda ugly, a little awkward. Thing is, he doesn't even say or do anything untoward, as he's pretty much ace, but often when he's interacting with children, or introducing himself to women, he gets the dirtiest looks. It's worse for him because he loves kids. It still happens to me sometimes, but not often enough that it bothers me. EDIT to add: I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:46 AM
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What? Where in that comment did he say a damn thing about ignoring rapes and sexual misconduct? Go ahead, quote it. I'm waiting. He literally began his comment with the disclaimer that he has no problem with women using caution, and advised men to do the same. He said he was against male-bashing. And why wouldn't he be? Are you okay with bashing a whole gender based on the actions of a very awful minority? Cause we're talking 50% of human beings on Earth here, whether you recognize them as peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:38 AM
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Can't speak for all dudes, especially those in the manosphere, but most men I know personally IRL more just wish we could chat up a woman in public to test the waters without being looked at like / labeled as a creep. Obviously there are plenty of women (probably a pretty strong majority) who wouldn't dream of treating men like that, but it's always a gamble for us. It's like... I totally get the caution. I do. But sometimes it really feels like we aren't allowed to participate in friendly human…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:28 AM
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I don't doubt there are quite a few women in that boat. To them, I would give the same advice I give the average man. Work on it. Work out, practice good hygiene, build skills, get hobbies, build a career, and make yourself valuable (speaking generally, not to you specifically). And lastly, remember that nobody determines your value except for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:20 PM
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Fur sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:46 PM
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Ehh. Men have wildly varying tastes - I would say the women that average men consider "too ugly to date" are few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:38 AM
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I haven't really looked into MGTOW very much, but it kinda sounds like how I approach things. I just don't go out of my way to date right now because I have more important shit to do. If somebody falls into my lap, or gives me signals I might go for it, but otherwise I'm just good where I'm at.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:29 AM
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Nope. He said that beauty gives women inherent value to men, he didn't say that's the only source of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:27 AM
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I don't disagree, but that's why I made the distinction in a previous comment. It's one thing to make dating decisions based on someones race, but quite another when the people you date just tend towards a type which includes a particular race.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:10 PM
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Nahhhh. A society without a Cultural Identity will end that way. Thus far, religion has been the greatest and most pervasive example of cultural identity, but that doesn't mean it's the only way to do it. The problem isn't that we are less religious, the problem is that so many people in our society don't hold anything sacred in religion's absence. People need purpose and direction, and our current society is diametrically opposed to any purpose or direction that isn't, "work until you die." We …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:44 PM
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Literally isn't about color. It's about having unconscious preferences for certain characteristics. Did you even read the comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:29 PM
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You've been saying it's racist to prefer certain races for dating. Truth is, most people aren't racist, but rather they are attracted to certain characteristics that are more heavily represented in certain races. For example, if you're attracted to blue eyes and red hair, it's just not incredibly likely that someone not of European descent will have those characteristics. We are also biologically predisposed to have a preference for mates that are loosely related to us. It's a holdover from when…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:25 PM
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For real though, do you just expect people to date people they aren't even attracted to to prove they aren't racist? Like where exactly do you think this line of thought leads, logically?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:07 PM
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Nobody is entitled to your sexual attraction, for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:03 PM
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Look dude, it is not racist to be attracted to some races more than others. You can't program your own attraction in any natural way. Now, if you sit there and say, "black people are out-of-bounds," or, "I never date asian guys, ewww," THAT is racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:10 PM
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Ain't a chance in hell, no woman is good enough for me to go through that and maintain any level of trust. Cheating is cowardly and base. Situations aren't always as simple as they appear, but when you decide to cheat you've given up on the relationship already as far as I'm concerned. Now if the cheater communicated to their partner that they are having problems in the relationship and the partner doesn't listen I can understand the choice, but ffs be an adult and terminate the relationship fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:31 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:58 PM
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Nah, not really my style. Nobody pays me much mind anywho.
/r/MensRights02/04/22 05:09 AM
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If only. Try dating while both having crippling depression and being good in bed–a lot of women hate the idea of dating a guy going through it, but still want to feel good. Ironically, I think I've probably been objectified more than the other way around. But you know, we're all just dogs after a bone and all that apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:18 AM
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That's rough. Might be time to focus on yourself then, I suppose. God knows I've had to do it a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:05 AM
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It is if no woman is interested in a relationship, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:00 AM
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Fair enough, I just meant you might want to clear your head before those dates so you can evaluate properly. I know when I'm in a bad way (feeling down on myself, or bitter at others), I accept behaviors that would otherwise trip the alarms and tell me it won't work out. And when I DO find a half-decent date, they pick up on the vibe and it kills the mood. Far be it from me to claim excellence in the dating department, but it's just generally a good idea to be positive and vigilant is all. Hope …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:59 AM
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What How do you even get that. If you're a negative asshole for your first date it's not going to go well; that's what I meant. Damn, sensitive much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:08 AM
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Being a walking himbo stereotype is hard work bro xD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:44 AM
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Dang lil homie, Idk what to tell you there. I guess I'd just say to be more vigilant for shitty people cause I don't think I've ever dated somebody THAT bad. Regardless, men are people too and if you carry this attitude into a first date they'll probably pick up on it. Self-fulfilling prophecies and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:43 AM
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Oh no worries, I'm right there with ya. It's important to learn from your mistakes, but it's even more important to keep your eyes forward and focus on the things you CAN do. Life is a struggle for many of us; shouldn't be a big surprise that dating follows suit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:40 AM
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I'mma just go ahead and say the misery olympics are a dubious sport and perhaps we should just admit that both situations suck, homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:28 AM
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Or you could be like me, and do nothing but struggle in your twenties. No long-term benefits and no short-term benefits; the utopian ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:23 AM
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You ain't wrong, homie. Men get like 2 validations per calendar year, so the moment a pretty woman chooses you is pretty overwhelming sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:21 AM
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Unfortunately, I'm not chasing a career because I want a woman, but because I want to survive. "Survival" is barely survival anymore, and the economy is only getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:20 AM
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I mean let's be real here, sex is still often fun, even when it isn't fulfilling. It's a physical urge that borders on "need" for men, so it's really not surprising that most of us would choose casual sex over permanent virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:19 AM
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Jfc this comment is depressing. How bad do your experiences have to be to think that the only value men bring to a relationship is the ability to ask you out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:16 AM
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Absolutely true. I can't tell you how many times I've made a strong impression and then the second she shows interest, fallen apart at the seams. Especially if it's been a long time since I've gotten interest from someone, I have this tendency to get giddy and lose my shit. Unfortunately it's only come across as "cute" a couple of times, usually they're left wondering wtf is wrong with me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:11 AM
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I think the other comments have pretty much got the lists covered, but can I just say I love your attitude. I myself try to reach out to "opposing" subs as well to get a more complete picture, and good lord let me tell you, some of the people on those feminist subs hate nothing more than a man not staying in his lane. Seeing as I deal with a LOT of folks who jump on anything I say because it doesn't 100% align with their ideology, this whole post has just been so damn refreshing. Thank you so mu…
/r/MensRights02/04/22 01:45 AM
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Well how far has bitching and moaning got you? I know it didn't take me very far. At least with the advice I gave above you can find more reasons to love yourself if romance doesn't work out :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:41 PM
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Absolutely. Much better to learn skills and hobbies that will serve you for years to come than to worry about grooming yourself just right, or trying to become a millionaire just for romance. What so many people don't realize these days is that people are more valuable than their surface qualities. You've got to be somebody YOU could fall in love with first and foremost, because we ultimately only "have" ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:30 PM
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Thanks! I 100% agree. That's a big part of why I gave that post the tone I did. I see this sub as a place for frank, unfiltered discussion, so I didn't want to pussyfoot around the issue like so many do and give some nebulous BS about, "everybody having their person," because we all know it's feel-good drivel that's intended to pacify. The harsh truth is that men have to generate value, because very few of us are attractive enough to get by on looks alone. Male sexuality is very direct. Usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:26 PM
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I do live in the US, and I know the stats are bleak. My point is that your life shouldn't be dictated by statistics bro. Marriage is a very personal thing, and it works for some people. If you don't want to marry, that's fine. But ain't no reason to be bitter.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 03:59 PM
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Some people float, some sink. That's life, get over it homie - it's no reason to be miserable.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 03:12 PM
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What about this comment implies that I'm a bot lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:06 AM
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As a man, I 100% feel you, I do. But giving advice is not the same as dismissing the struggle. Truth be told, "take a shower, work out, and make more money" isn't easy advice to follow, but frankly it's the simplest effective advice most folks can give. Work on your body, work on your life-security, and work on your hygiene. Those things do help. Some people are never going to be super physically attractive, and that's just facts, shit we have to deal with. Reality doesn't care if you're lonely,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:31 AM
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Look bro, just because some people are miserable in marriages does not mean that others aren't blissfully enjoying their lives.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 12:57 AM
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I can't tell you how many times I've been blocked/my comments have been deleted on AskFeminists simply for questioning the narrative. (if it wasn't obvious, please no brigading; they don't need more excuses to be cheeky mfs)
/r/MensRights30/03/22 01:11 AM
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I roll around feminist subs too so that I'm exposed to different opinions–if you stop learning you start dying if ya ask me. Here's the thing–I understand (to a point) the fear that women feel, because I have been physically and sexually assaulted before. That can't be said of all men, true, but I can relate. And I'll just tell you straight-up that's an awful feeling I wouldn't wish on anyone, period. But unless you've spent 12 months without so much as a hug, a compliment, or a warm handshake, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:29 AM
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Lmao get off his dick, homie. He's made it abundantly clear it has her name on it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:59 AM
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Usually, women don't pay for dates. Usually, women have easier jobs. If you look at a construction crew, more than likely it's all dudes. Never once said that there are NO women in those hard jobs; I'm saying there is a strong trend for men to take the hard jobs. I'm speaking "most" statements, and you are purposely mistaking them for "all" statements. Even so, to say that men's only difficulty in dating is paying for the date is blind as hell. We're expected to initiate, we're expected to keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:47 AM
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Men work the hard jobs to pay for all those dates, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:39 AM
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You out here talking like men and boys don't get raped and trafficked. Even if it only happened to women, that shit needs to be stopped, you won't hear any argument from me. Regardless, that isn't even the point we're talking about. Not surprising that you feel the need to derail the conversation by bringing up rape and sexual assault, but if you'll actually read, I was responding to a statement that said, and I quote: The only way men have it harder is they have to initiate and pay for things, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:33 AM
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As a man, I don't really want to climb up on a cross and tell the whole world about my every single struggle, I just want to be treated like a (valued) person who is flawed, and whose flaws don't define them. Obviously women have their own struggles, and in the past their struggles were MUCH WORSE than men's, but in today's day and age, every woman is valued by society. There is a built-in sympathy, which is not extended to men. Men are only valued if they bring value; if they are visibly flawed…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:39 AM
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Go work construction, see how that works out for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:30 AM
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Jfc bad bot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:28 AM
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Tbf, they said could
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:27 AM
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For sure that's what it seems like to me. That said, any regular dude/dudette would be tackled and escorted to a patrol car for that shit, and he shouldn't have been any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:54 AM
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Yup, and most of us get arrested for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:52 AM
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Underrated comment xD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:51 AM
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And? Does that make them right for doing so? If Will were a poorer, less famous man, he would have been tackled by security and escorted to a patrol car lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:50 AM
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Bro you wildin', she didn't say any of that about TRP lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:00 PM
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You love to see it
/r/MensRights26/03/22 07:25 PM
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I don't think I'd be sitting and having conversations with her anymore, sir. And I wouldn't be having conversations with her boyfriend 'til he wised the fuck up either.
/r/MensRights26/03/22 07:52 AM
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People REALLY don't like it when you provide them a mirror lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:50 AM
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Boils my blood just thinking about it! People who stand in the way of equality (at least equality of opportunity ffs) are probably my least favorite people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:44 AM
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Yeah, we definitely live with gilded chains these days. Unfortunately, that sort of change requires lots of courage and possibly some bloodshed, and as long as their needs are met, most people will not feel very inclined to risk it all just to rock the boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:15 PM
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I'm not sure what stats I'm supposed to be looking at here, but it's just overall labor participation for this year, soooo idk. While I'm 100% open to the information, I find it very doubtful that there has been less than 10% change in the workforce. I did find this source. According to this article from Harvard Business Review, female participation in the workforce has nearly doubled since the 50's. While that's not as drastic as my original statement, my statement was admittedly simplified, im…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:47 AM
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Having a roommate who frankly doesn't prioritize cleaning, I can relate. That said, from the relationships I've seen among friends and family, it's not uncommon for the wife to completely shirk her duties too–mostly comes down to our socialization I feel. If your parents never made you pick up after yourself, and your friends don't shame you for having a nasty apartment when you move out on your own, why learn how to take care of the house? Then by the time they start getting into real relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:48 PM
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I like your comment overall, but can I just take a moment to appreciate this part: Unscientifically prob 30% of the posts are from women People are so quick to spout BS statistics, so it's very refreshing to see someone taking responsibility for their relative ignorance instead of pretending they know everything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:21 PM
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As you wish, my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:24 PM
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It's not a zero-sum game my guy, there's like 4 billion women on this earth. Social media has crescendoed, and over the last several years a lot of people have been catching on to how toxic it is, so hopefully the affected parties are gonna come to their senses - but either way, we're going to be okay. Keep putting yourself out there, but in the real world: gain new hobbies, learn new skills, meet new people. Harder said than done, but frankly that's the best thing to do if you're already in dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:24 AM
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I'm not gonna sit here and say that simps don't exist, because they absolutely do and I consider them a pest, but I think you might be overestimating both their prevalence and their real effect on the dating scene. When most women give simps the light of day, it's usually because they are too agreeable to tell them to fuck off. They aren't exactly banging on their doors later begging for dick. As for the self-worth discrepancy... Yeah, I would say that in general women have a higher sense of sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:55 PM
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Yeah this is big facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:24 PM
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Honestly as a dude I get where OP's coming from, but these comments are wild. Truth is, if you have your priorities straight, it shouldn't matter that simps are throwing money/affection/attention at women. If anything, women who gladly take advantage of those things reveal themselves as the kind of woman I want nothing to do with. If a dipshit wants to take an L so the rest of us know which ladies to avoid, more power to em lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:21 PM
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Tbh, I've never watched. Got a link for that scene?
/r/MensRights23/03/22 10:48 PM
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I think it largely depends on the crowd you run with, but I do agree that society at large will knock a guy for shallow preferences before they will knock a gal. That said, I disagree with using these examples because they are both (primarily) preferences exclusive to each sex. Weight is a big one. If a woman turned me down for my weight, or in some fashion joked about it, full stop, nobody in the room probably cares. More than likely they will either ignore the interaction entirely or a couple …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:25 PM
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If you are giving someone the impression you genuinely like them when you are only after a certain thing, that's leading them on. It's a shitty thing to do. Not complicated. If the dude has agreed to that thing AFTER you make it clear to him nothing more is happening, that's on him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:02 PM
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I literally never suggested that, but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:29 PM
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And if you can't take a minute or two out of your day to give your SO a nice compliment, you're a dick 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:53 PM
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Ah yes, can't have feelings or you're a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:31 PM
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It depends on the person. Love languages and all that. Some people won't believe it unless it's said aloud. And, some people are insecure. If my girlfriend was insecure, I'd remind her how hot she is on the daily. There are a lot of people who would chide a man for not telling his SO how beautiful she is, so is it not important for a woman to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:11 PM
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This is a reddit forum and it's for frank discussion, so... Do you want them to lie? Don't get me wrong, I agree with the core premise here, that most women could probably amp their men up more, and make them feel desired, but that's not really what this sub is for, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:58 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to fully describe the mindset that most of us men have. I think that it's largely taught, but I know deep down that some of it is just the way I'm wired. We seek approval from women because unless you want to stoop to truly vile actions, approval from women is ultimately how we pass on our genes. It's a very natural process, but it's exacerbated by today's dating game, especially online dating, to the point that it can easily make one miserable. Truth is, a lot of men aren't taug…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:07 PM
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I chalk it up to being a matter of experience and societal values. When I was 22, I couldn't bear it. I thought I was doomed to be a kissless virgin (I know, it makes me cringe too), because I didn't know what women wanted, and I couldn't find a way to explore what I wanted, and we as people place so much value on sex/romance that I thought I was defective or something. Once I managed to start a few short relationships, a lot of that feeling went away. I no longer feel like I'm sub-human or some…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure if a man sat on my lap and moved around just right I'd get a stiffy too. The friction is all that's required - attraction just helps lil dude along
/r/PussyPassDenied28/02/22 03:24 PM
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That's fucked up. It would make a lot more sense to give able-bodied adults an ultimatum. "Either you stay and fight, or you revoke your citizenship." Honestly, that seems kinda fair. But forced conscription? Hell no.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 08:08 PM
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Brother, and I say this as someone who used to fall for it, you've got to have a spine. Flip it on 'em with the ol', "Wow, people don't usually offer to buy me dinner on the first date!" If they're cool about it, you can either accept the meal or offer to pay your way and chalk it up as a successful joke. If they ain't cool about it, well, there's the door.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 03:50 AM
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Shallow would be kicking him to the curb for getting his ass beat–as long as she doesn't relentless tease him about it while he's an emotional wreck it's not that bad, depending on their relationship. Based on her comment, I'm assuming they have the sort of relationship where they give each other shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:07 AM
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Both? Both is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:29 AM
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No, but we are wired to seek the feeling of passing on our genes, and protected sex is basically a simulation of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:09 AM
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Bro you wrong for this lmaoooo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:50 PM
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Right, that's what I'm suggesting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:39 PM
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"Men have forgotten they can travel without cars" No kidding, but the trip is quicker in a vehicle my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:55 AM
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I think most of these arguments hold water, but one of them caused me to have a thought. SOME studies have shown there may be a link between porn and reduced intimacy with your partner Have we considered that this link suggests not only that increased porn usage reduces intimacy, but that reduced intimacy increases porn usage? Because I'm willing to bet that most men in relationships vastly prefer actually having sex with their very real SO to imagining sex with random women on the internet, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:52 AM
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That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with, chief
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:47 AM
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Yes, that is better. We are all allowed to have our boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:34 AM
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Couple simple questions for you. When people watch regular ol' (non-personalized) porn, are they interacting with the actual person behind the screen? When people purchase/create personalized porn like OnlyFans, are they interacting with the actual person behind the screen? The answers to those questions will make it crystal clear why so many people have a problem with making/watching personalized porn in a relationship, while they see non-personalized porn as no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:31 AM
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There is a difference. If you (man or woman) are on OnlyFans, you are sexualizing yourself to/for other people. There is actual interaction there. It is personalized. There is a strong potential to attract suitors and stalkers which can very easily disrupt the relationship in a real-life, physical or social way. If you (man or woman) watch regular ol' porn, as long as you aren't overdoing it, you're just getting off. You aren't interacting with the person on the screen. It is impersonal. You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:25 AM
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I have no dogs in this race, because I'm not looking for a super-traditional woman anyway. But, to be clear, I'm sure it's not just men that came up with this system. There are very clear benefits for men: household is taken care of, kids are taken care of, sexual/romantic needs are taken care of. There are also very clear benefits for women: roof overhead, no need to do all the dangerous shit, people are conditioned to value and protect them. Relationships are about compromise, and traditionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:12 PM
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I think there is a distinct difference between "faking it" and cultivating the sort of characteristics, interests, and behaviors which tend to attract the opposite sex. This may not work for everyone since humanity is such a diverse bunch, but generally speaking social interaction is like a muscle. You've got to do it over and over and push your own boundaries before you grow into it. Maybe you won't enjoy it, but oftentimes simply seeing the results of your increased social skills is enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:30 AM
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I think most red pillers don't hate women, or think that women are, "less than," it's more that they are un-learning some pie-in-the-sky BS that society tends to feed us. For the ones that ARE hateful though, that hate usually stems from a distinct and profound lack of feminine companionship. Speaking from experience, sexual frustration can send one down some very fucked-up rabbit holes, whether that be porn addiction, women-hating, simping, or all of the above. Thank fuck ya boi dodged most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:32 AM
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Two words: Global Warming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:13 PM
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Thanks, I get that a lot. Little known fact, I didn't actually die at the end - I got taken to the top-secret facility where they cryogenically preserved Walt Disney. The internet is effectively my only interaction with the outside world now, but hey, it's better than melting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:08 PM
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Guess you've got to find a woman who knows it ain't a game, then. They are few and far between, just like really good men are few and far between. That's life, homie, just gotta embrace it. Don't settle for someone who's settling for you; make yourself valuable and put up with no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:27 PM
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I don't know how you've interpreted this as a burden on men or an opportunity to insinuate that women are irresponsible. Coincidentally, I was trying to do neither of those things. Never mentioned it being a burden for men. And I don't think women as a whole are necessarily irresponsible. Rather, the majority of women have been socialized to think that it is society's job to keep them safe. This is a nice thought in an ideal world, but it is ultimately unrealistic because you aren't the main cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:53 PM
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My standards used to be on the floor, but after a couple crappy relationships I've realized that it ain't the way. These days, I have more standards for a one night stand than I used to have for a partner. There comes a certain point (hopefully) where you grow to understand that it's better to be alone than to be with some of these fools out here. Truth is, my standards still aren't crazy, but if a woman is always trying to compete with me, or expects me to jump through hoops for her (to an unre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:15 PM
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I did say "usually." The reason I said that is because I add qualifiers to make sure I'm not generalizing whole groups of people. There are always exceptions. But, I think the vast majority of men want to have sex fairly early in the relationship, and why wouldn't they? Sex is fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:17 PM
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Sure, there might be a lot of them; I wasn't talking about all men, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:09 PM
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I never thought I'd be agreeing with somebody called smegma_enthusiast, but here we are xD For real though, some people just looking for a fight for no damn reason lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:00 PM
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Sexless relationships are definitely a thing. Regardless, are you bound and determined to misinterpret ALL replies, or just mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:45 PM
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To be clear, it's not a matter of, "aw man, she won't let me hit it on the third date." It was more a situation of the person in question beginning to question if they were asexual or not, and me saying, "that probably wouldn't work for me, because I want sex in my relationship."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:50 PM
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I feel ya, but the thing is, people are responsible for their own safety. As a man, if I had an expensive watch, I wouldn't wear it in a bad neighborhood. If I expect trouble, I bring a weapon, or avoid going to a place altogether. If I don't want to have a fight with my girlfriend, I don't bring up touchy subjects. It's the same premise–you pre-empt the problem before it has a chance to develop into a problem. As much as our society claims otherwise, it isn't ultimately responsible for what hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:39 PM
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This. Lots of people don't understand that relationships require hard work and empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:30 PM
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And most people that get screwed in the divorce are men, and they are screwed by women. Does that mean that men should fear marriage with all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:22 PM
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Ooo you kicked the nest on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:20 PM
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Unfortunately, it's pretty much impossible to filter in that way–even the good dudes usually wanna fuck early. I've been accused of just wanting a woman for her body, but it was like... Nope, I'm just very attracted to you lol. Still wanted a relationship, but not if she didn't want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:15 PM
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I used to follow and believe in the strategies of TRP; now I think that a good portion of it is misguided. TRP has some solid ideas. For example, I think that most women do, in fact, prefer an honest asshole over a dishonest "nice" guy. But some of the other stuff is not so helpful. Do you know why? Women are not some monolith of people who behave exactly the same way, no more than men are. We each have trends, but in my experience TRP does too much. I'm looking for a partner, not pussy. I'll be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:15 PM
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Can't speak for other men, but I don't necessarily want a super-traditional woman. I want somebody who has family values, who is loyal and honest and kind, and preferably attractive. I don't need someone to be a SAHM, I don't need someone to be subservient to me... I just want somebody who understands relationships are give-and-take, not just take-this-sucker-for-all-he's-got.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:34 AM
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I'll be honest. I don't subscribe to TRP (used to), but I see its merits. Thing is, I've had enough experience with the shittier ladies TRP tends to describe that I know I don't want to be with them anyway–too much drama, with none of the emotional intimacy I actually want, and often without the physical too. I realize the kind of person I'm looking for is rare, but ultimately I'm just going to live my life until I find somebody who meets my standards and looks at me twice. Bon voyage homie, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:41 AM
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Oof. Mine was a bit more recent, but admittedly it was only my second attempt at relationships so I try not to blame myself too much for being a walking doormat.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 06:56 PM
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If you think that would make you feel stupid, try dating someone like this. I've still got the clown makeup around here somewhere...
/r/MensRights30/01/22 06:50 PM
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Honestly I haven't had what I would consider a "real" heartbreak. What I did experience was extremely low self-worth, in no small part due to my complete ignorance of romantic love at the time. I've never been suicidal, but I self-harmed with alcohol for many years of my adult life. I'd get home after unloading Walmart trucks for 10-12 hours, pop open a big bottle of nasty, $7 vodka, flip on Trailer Park Boys, and pretend I didn't hate my life as I let my body deteriorate. It was that hard for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:40 AM
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I'mma keep it real with you chief. I don't give a damn. When I find the chick I want to be with, she's not going to be superficial, and that's all I really care about. Obviously, looks matter. I'm not gonna bellyache about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:18 AM
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Uhhh generalizing isn't fine, that's literally the core of our disagreement my dude. I do not generalize feminists, I do not generalize races, I do not generalize women. Thus, it would stand to reason one should not generalize men. This isn't to say you aren't allowed to avoid personally interacting with people because of your experiences, but that shouldn't impact people's job prospects, criminal status, or treatment in the eyes of the law, or of society.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 04:57 PM
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Exactly, it's frankly not your business unless it involves someone close to you and they welcome your input.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:29 AM
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I never generalized all feminists as saying that. I do think it's a disproportionately large number of feminists, but I'm well aware that there are very ideologically consistent feminists too.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 03:28 AM
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Except that ain't a red flag, it's legit a crime lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:23 AM
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Oooo you speaking facts though. Happiest relationship I've ever seen is my sister's. She married a man 13 years older than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:22 AM
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That is most definitely not what I am saying. I'm saying that generalizing an entire gender is damn foolish. The discussion isn't about boundaries, it's about treating the genders differently.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 07:33 PM
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On that we can agree.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 07:30 PM
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You do realize the guy you responded to was pointing out hypocrisy, right?
/r/MensRights26/01/22 07:30 PM
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Oh well that's totally cool then. Your username isn't accurate, cause you make a conscious choice about who is equal evidently.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:56 PM
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I'm ashamed that you can't see the issue from an unbiased perspective
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:54 PM
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It isn't shaming to deny a false generalization.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:45 PM
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Explain it, professor
/r/MensRights25/01/22 01:38 AM
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Idk why folks think that way. We're all human, most of us like to fuck. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:10 AM
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That's no excuse for that shit, sort yourself out dude.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 01:32 AM
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Fuck is wrong with you dude
/r/MensRights24/01/22 01:23 AM
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Eh, I'm pretty good at sorting out trustworthy and untrustworthy people. My gut rarely steers me wrong, and I'm not gonna assume the worst about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:46 PM
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Dude what are you doing, kick that woman out.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:23 PM
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As a dude, when women pull that shit it's one of two things: She actually likes you and cares about what you think of her, and she doesn't want you to think she's easy. She doesn't really like you, but rather sees you as secure; you are the backup plan, she doesn't actually desire you, she wants the safety. The first option is a manifestation of insecurity and the shitty views of our society, while the second is 100% an excellent reason to drop her ass. I think both are pretty fucking stupid, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:16 PM
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^ This. Ladies, just be yourself. If you like to screw around, screw around! Good men won't give a shit as long as you're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:01 PM
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Speak for yourself, homie, I wouldn't mind a girl that's easy just so long as she understands commitment and isn't carrying any unwanted guests into my bedroom. "Easy" is a shitty term anyway–you want what you want, and if she wants me bad enough that she can't wait, that's all the better. Granted, if she was only easy with me, that'd be even better, but that's a pretty unrealistic expectation to have lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:00 PM
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Idk bro, equal rights are only important when it benefits women, not to put to fine a point on it. We're men, so we're supposed to "deal"
/r/MensRights23/01/22 12:51 AM
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Or they will feel alienated because they are spending half their income on a child they don't even interact with
/r/MensRights23/01/22 12:46 AM
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I'm not a communist, but you do realize there is more than one type of communism, right? Stalin's authoritarian regime may be the biggest kind, but there are others lol
/r/MensRights22/01/22 09:40 PM
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Honestly I don't think it matters which side has a better point. Watching too much porn and having sex with people who don't care about you while expecting a relationship are both rather self-destructive behaviors. In this scenario, both people need to temper their expectations, unless they're cool with being miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:16 AM
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I couldn't agree more!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:30 PM
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Women are capable of taking care of themselves and owning their own decisions, are they not?
/r/MensRights20/01/22 04:36 AM
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Game recognize game lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:45 AM
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I think people who are concerned with body-counts need to get over themselves, frankly. If a woman wants to take it a bit slow, that's cool, as long as she is showing interest and we aren't going on kissless dates or something. If she wants to go fast, that's cool sometimes too. Idk, mutual respect and compatibility is all I really give a shit about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:04 AM
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As a dude, you'd best believe I gas up my boys. A couple of them really fucking need it. It's not about making an objective evaluation of their appearance–if they ask for that, I'll be very honest and blunt. When I just give out compliments, it's about noticing the positive things that they are doing, whether that be building their skills, spicing up the wardrobe, getting a great haircut, or working out. Life is hard enough as it is, gas up your friends lil homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:04 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:08 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:58 AM
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You know what? Fair point.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 10:08 PM
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Alright, I misspoke. He's not generalizing a whole gender. Just, ya know, a whole ideology.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:37 PM
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Even generalizing all feminists is disingenuous. Plenty of feminists would take exception to being represented this way, just like men's rights advocates take exception to how we are misrepresented by feminists. It's ridiculous.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:40 PM
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Aight bet
/r/MensRights18/01/22 03:16 PM
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that you didn't really answer the other guy's question, that's all
/r/MensRights18/01/22 12:56 PM
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Where are the generalizations? Did you read this post? For every one of these made-up answers, he lists the source as "All Feminists." How on Earth could that possibly not be a generalization?
/r/MensRights18/01/22 12:44 PM
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Disgusting. I don't know how people can make statements like that without realizing how wrong they are. That said, you didn't really provide any kind of justification for these wild generalizations in the OP.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:20 AM
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Sure, agreed, but this dude is literally constructing his own strawman and generalizing a whole gender from it. Not really any better.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:19 AM
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Oh I see, so we want to perpetuate the bullshit of generalizing each other? Damn bro I think you just solved our problems
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:18 AM
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I'm not offended, I'm just disappointed.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:15 AM
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Ah, I see you are not going to address the issue, but instead be a child about it. Fine. you'll never get what you want by being a pissy baby though.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:05 AM
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Look buddy, I AM a men's rights advocate. What you are doing is still intellectually dishonest, and makes you just as bad as the people you are criticizing.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:55 AM
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So like... I see what you're getting at, and I agree that those sorts of generalizations made by a large number of feminists are complete bullshit. But you do know you're doing the Clint Eastwood thing, right? You are literally asking yourself questions and supplying yourself answers. This is the bold-faced definition of a strawman, and your argument is weak as fuck because of it. I'm a man, and I think Feminism on the whole is a sham these days, but ffs how are you going to be on here bitching …
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:20 AM
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See, and that's the kind of thing I very much respect. When I'm dating someone, I'm looking for a partner, not a doormat. I think a lot of dudes frankly want a doormat, though–I don't get it, but far be it from me to yuck someone's yum lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:22 PM
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I should clarify; I think women who can do "masculine" things, like craft and athletic hobbies, are amazing. What is a turn-off for me is when a woman tries to dominate me socially in some fashion or other. But then, that's probably because I'm masculine, so it resorts in unnecessary conflict. It's not a hard-and-fast rule either, by any means. I once had a girlfriend who was very blunt and honest, and I appreciated that, but what I didn't appreciate is the way she interjected herself into every…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:16 PM
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I don't know anything about your specific posts, so my opinion is only marginally helpful, but in my experience women who advertise themselves as "confident" are usually acting the ass by overcompensating for gender expectations. Men make asses of themselves too in this respect, but as women are breaking gender norms when they do it, they stick out more. I used to think that men and women are essentially the same, just socialized differently, but nowadays I think that some gender norms (the ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:54 PM
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Idk what to tell you, it's a different sort of rejection, but it's the kind women have got to deal with, just like getting turned down over and over is something men have got to deal with. I get that it sucks to rethink a whole friendship, but them's the breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:59 AM
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That was a long read, friend. I'm well aware that some dudes are garbage, and do befriend women only for sex. I do not hang with them or respect them. But I can tell you that the vast majority of the time, in my experience, men do not only befriend women for sex. They befriend them, and the option of dating is often in the back of the mind, but, like women, some of us want to feel things out first. We vet you ladies before asking you out sometimes; easiest way to do that is to befriend you. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:43 AM
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I generally operate the same way you do, but it wasn't always so. I think this perspective takes a fair bit of maturity - moreso than simple "adulthood," and I think some dudes never manage to gain that perspective. Mostly though, I think I pretty much described how most young men operate. Befriend, develop feelings, shoot shot, get rejected, create distance to protect feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:44 AM
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Let me be clear, I think the whole "friendzone" argument is moot, because as a guy you win some and you lose some, and that's just the way it is, no point bitching about it. However. There are plenty of situations where a man befriends a woman, but sees them as an option. As they start to hang out more, he starts to see things differently. When he shoots his shot and gets rejected, it's not like he can just switch back. That shit hurts, even if you're good-natured about it, and most men need dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:35 PM
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I have explicitly avoided PUA stuff since 2017, so I can't speak to that. MGTOW had a lot of vitriol the last time I visited, but at least most of them could face the reality that, for whatever reason, women don't want them. It's been a loooong time since I visited TRP. When I did visit it, it seemed to have a pretty equal balance between dudes who are genuinely just trying to strategize their dating (for better or worse), and dudes who fell into the misogynistic rabbit hole. So in short, afaik,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:10 PM
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Every time I've been to FDS, the front page, and probably the next page, and the page after that, were basically filled with rabid bullshit that I, as a man, would never let fly in my personal relationships... And I'm a pretty accommodating dude. Lots of misandry, lots of delusion, and below zero accountability. I'm willing to concede that reasonable people probably exist in that sub, but they are buried under the veritable hoard of hate-posts and calls for validation of completely unreasonable …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:50 AM
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Pfft sure. I'm sure at no point in history did women instigate a conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:06 AM
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She answered the question bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:18 AM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:16 AM
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How you gonna be out here heckling women for answering the fucking question bro lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:12 AM
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I feel like if I started crying during an argument, I'd be apologizing and seeking an exit IMMEDIATELY. It's such an obvious manipulation tactic that I'd be concerned my partner thinks I'm trying to make her feel bad lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:02 AM
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Eh, I'll sum it up real quick-like. Nice =/= Good Truth is, women would rather be with a dick who tells them exactly what he thinks than a doormat who will lie and cajole and pretend with any fantasy she likes, as long as he gets "but a crumb of pussy, sir" This is because those men are, and come across as, spineless cowards. Women are driven to find men that are assertive, and protective. As many problems as Mr. Dick might present, if he can cover those two bases and he's interesting enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:53 AM
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Dude is right. Generalization is the death of civil discussion, fuck outta here boi
/r/MensRights12/01/22 01:47 AM
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Or, alternatively, we make most decisions as a couple, and I only use my "decision-power" for emergencies. That's more what I'm talking about. I would never make deliberately life-altering decisions without my wife, were I married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure there are happy marriages of all kinds, my guy. It depends on the people in them. Besides, I didn't say I would take every single decision upon myself - just that I have the final word. More often than not, I would have zero problem deferring to the wife. But when shit gets real, I know myself better than I've ever known a partner, and I'm confident in my choices. It's the difference between being controlling and simply being the head of the household. I'm a masculine dude, who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:06 PM
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I never said you ladies don't have your struggles. I was pointing out how foolish it is to generalize an entire gender for the purpose of bitching about your dating problems. It's asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:28 AM
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Ha, "most"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:05 AM
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You have my attention
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:42 AM
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Apt username, why are you so aggro lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:40 AM
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As a fat dude, those people are delusional lmao. I'm not willing to date an obese woman, so I wouldn't expect a woman to date an obese man. Fuckin' way she goes, boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:38 AM
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I mean I feel ya, but I'll never let a woman dictate who I am or how I treat other people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:11 AM
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No doubt. Probably just get drowned out by all the less reasonable folks lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:11 AM
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My point is that no one group of people are to blame. Most People (not just men, not just women) on the apps kinda suck. They are on the apps because, for one reason or another, they don't want to go out to find people. You're going to be dealing with every shade of neurosis under those circumstances, and it has little to do with gender. So, the supposition that it is Men's fault (men who have never met the guys she's talking about) is on its face insulting, and not really worth entertaining. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:09 AM
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I don't really subscribe to any of the pills to a radical extent, but I think I've got a very centrist perspective that most people in the communities would hate for various reasons. Socially, I'm an Egalitarian. I think Feminism lost the plot, and ironically is necessarily gendered, so I think it's time to stop with that shit. In the eyes of the law, neither sex, gender, orientation, race, nor creed should have any bearing on people's rights or treatment. In my personal life, I'm a flexible tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:00 AM
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So happy to see another egalitarian up in this sub. Men appreciate you ladies more than you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:41 AM
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So? You're still responsible for your actions. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:38 AM
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We must have different interpretations here, because I understood it differently. In the post, but mostly in the comments, the OP basically blames Men (yes, all of em) for women's dating problems, even though most women effectively don't have to initiate in order to get dates. They have options lining up around the corner, waiting for their shot; it's understandable that the process of choosing a partner can be hectic, but how do you think those dudes feel? They can't even get a woman to look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:38 AM
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Me too. We both knew the relationship was temporary from the start, but she gave me an amazing couple of months. The memories of those months is what keeps me sane. It's been four years, but it feels just like yesterday. Fucking onion ninjas just came out of nowhere. :')
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:26 AM
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Damn bro, there ain't an excuse for that vile behavior. Get some help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:16 AM
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I think a lot of people do this, consciously or not. Makes complete sense. You crave what you had, back before shitty, spineless people shattered your perception of who you can trust; but since that trust was destroyed, and it hurt so bad, you never want to give someone the power to do that to you again. I'm not extremely successful with relationships, but here's my takeaway. I can still be in relationships, but it will take longer, and take more effort to earn my trust again. Maybe no woman wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:14 AM
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I mean, ultimately they feel that banishment because no woman (that they know of, anyway) wants to have sex / build a home with them, so unless you want to take one for the team there's really just not much to be done. I used to be one of the miserable dudes, until a woman finally gave me a chance. It's a reassurance that you're a human being just like all your friends and family who don't struggle with dating. Until a woman genuinely gives the dude a chance, he probably will not change. That ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:58 AM
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My point was that men by-and-large are not rewarded for that behavior. I don't think women are right or wrong in this case, because no woman owes her sexuality to anyone, but dudes who are honest, straightforward assholes get a lot farther than guys that are being super-nice and hoping to get noticed for it. You probably aren't ever going to meet your future wife if you expect her to jump on your dick for being virtuous. It just doesn't work that way for most people. Besides, this is wildly off-…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:45 PM
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No woman is going to know if you told your friends to cut that shit out, because that's the kind of thing you tell them in private. You don't light up your friends in public unless they are extraordinarily shitty. I hate the term, but this is literally what the term "white-knighting" was created for. You aren't going to make every woman in the room wet just because you're a bare-minimum decent dude and you're going out of your way to show it to everyone. They'll probably think you're a tool, tbh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:11 PM
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How? I don't KNOW the men that do this shit, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:43 PM
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Here's the thing. "Men" is a demographic. Half of the entire planet doesn't just sit down for weekly board meetings where we make a magically-binding blood-pact about what is and is not okay dating/sexual behavior. If we were capable of doing that, the shitheads wouldn't get away with behaving the way they do. A lot of men suck. A lot of women suck. Most of the single people that suck are on the dating apps. Neither "Men" nor "Women" can do anything about it, because you can't control 3.5 billio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:36 PM
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You do realize genders don't act as one homogenous body, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:24 PM
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I would like women to choose me more often, and actually engage when we match so I don't have to be consistently ignored, ghosted, or carrying the conversation every time. This would also benefit women, as good men would become more active on the apps. See how that works? Turns out generalizing a whole gender isn't very nuanced, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:22 PM
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Maybe YOU and YOUR FRIENDS aren't selecting the assholes, but some women are, and that's all the shitty dudes care about. Can you control what other women do? No! Can us reasonable fellows control what other men do? No! So what are you actually getting at here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:17 PM
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I'm not one of the gripers, really... But how do you figure? It's not like when a man calls out his friend the nearest cutie hops on his dick. I call out shitty behavior regardless because I have high standards for my friends, but this kind of thing doesn't help me in any way. It's a numbers game with OLD, so it's not uncommon for people to stop treating each other like people; simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:13 PM
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It's definitely not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:08 PM
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Ngl, you wouldn't like to see the list of grievances men have with online dating. Dudes bitch about it on this sub enough, I'd think you'd get the picture. Don't get me wrong, OLD isn't a picnic for most women either, but comparing the rejection and shitty experiences of women to that of men is like comparing a single punch to a gang beatdown. Nobody is special in OLD, that is both the charm and the awfulness of it. Everybody has had bad experiences. It's not "men's" fault or "women's" fault. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:04 PM
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Oh yeah, no doubt. I never listen to people who say that shit, I just ignore em and keep talking 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:05 PM
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Very true. To be fair, though, the "block" button is something of an equalizer as well, and it ain't hard to use lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:21 PM
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Idk, usually works for me. But then, I try to keep a cool, but goofy demeanor in the early dates, so they usually know I'm just a straightforward dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:05 PM
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That's one way to completely ignore the point. Also, do you REALLY think that of all the female murderers out there, NONE of them did it because of sexual/dating frustration? This reminds me of that story where a woman tied up her delivery guy and raped him for several days. Look, there are no demographics comprised of only perfect, or even good, people. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:08 AM
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Is balding a huge issue for most women, in your experience? It's not something I consider often, as I will probably never go bald (knock on wood), but after some thought I realized that if a woman were bald or balding, I would probably not pursue her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:59 AM
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"You're not a woman, you don't get to have an opinion."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:43 AM
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Damn bro, you're makin' me miss my ex 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:38 PM
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This is honestly how I feel deep down. Unless I was blackout drunk, I've never done something drunk that I didn't agree to do. I don't know what's so hard about that. Yes, there are certainly dudes who take advantage, but unless someone is wasted, I think it's a FAR cry from rape. People act like the second alcohol touches a woman's lips, she's helpless. Alcohol is literally intended to lower inhibitions. You are responsible for your own well-being, so if you can't control yourself when you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:38 PM
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That's the damn truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:25 PM
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No, what would be objectifying is seeing women as objects. I don't. Women are people, who I tend to be attracted to. You seem to think dudes only see a pair of tits that can talk when they look at a woman. So full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:20 PM
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Ah. Well frankly right now I'm in a state where I'm open, but not looking. Very tired of petty and dishonest women, figured I'll focus on myself for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:21 AM
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Well no shit, but you asked WHY people want to be in relationships, not HOW to keep one running. I was just answering your question bro lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:43 AM
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I don't really see the logic here, but okay. It's not like I don't want adventure, I just don't consider that a need. It's more important to me that a partner is warm, affectionate, and useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:09 AM
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Tbh, I don't care to hunt down examples, but I think you and I are mostly on the same page. I made an assumption that your views matched the narrative that "if a woman is drunk, the dude raped her, period." So sorry about that, it was less-than-excellent of me. I have no problem with the inebriated party calling it rape when one person is sober and the other is drunk, just so long as that goes both ways. A lot of people don't think it does, and they are the people I have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:55 AM
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Explain to me how a drunk woman is less responsible for her actions than a drunk man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:39 AM
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Well I don't disagree at all; I see it as an ideal situation, not a realistic one. Real life constraints definitely tug me more towards the 50/50 compromise lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:38 AM
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I mean, that's basically what I'm doing. I'm just writing my book, going to school, going to work, repeat. Once I can afford to feed myself without taking a student loan, maybe I'll start actually looking lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:37 AM
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Man, at the end of a hard day of work I don't need adventure, I need a good hug and good food. Everything else will work out how it works out, I just want someone to be there for me, and who I can be there for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:34 AM
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It's all a matter of degrees for me. When I get high I enjoy it a lot, but I can also zone out and kill the mood if I actually get stoned. Tipsy sex is ridiculously fun, but anything past that definitely causes unforeseen problems lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:26 AM
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This is something that many, many, MANY people disagree with me on. I know actual rape victims, and the women that claim rape just because they had some alcohol when they were publicly and enthusiastically going for it... cheapen the word. Rape is a very loaded term, and it should be used very selectively. This isn't to say that women who are taken advantage of while wasted aren't raped, don't get me wrong. This is about the women who actively participate in the sex but feel guilty afterward and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:22 AM
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A lot of times, the "provider" role denotes the partner that handles the bills and the strict living expenses. Like, if the other person lost their job, the family will survive because the provider is still providing. That doesn't mean the other person can't work, of course. I've seen a few relationships where the man takes care of house, utilities, food, and gas, while the woman basically uses the extra income from her job to help out with furniture, kitchen-stuff, comforters... You know, domes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:13 AM
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I once had a girlfriend who would basically go incommunicado for days at a time, sometimes over a week. I told her it was a problem, but she insisted that she's just oh-so-busy, and a terrible texter. I knew this wasn't true because the woman was always on that damn phone. Got sick of her shit and started communicating like she did. No initiation. One-word or simple responses. Zero emotion. Occasionally I'd ignore her texts for a few days. It took about two weeks of that before she was all, "Oka…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:02 AM
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I'm the same I think. It's not that I'm offended at rejection, I just want to get closure so I can put this one in the books, know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:56 AM
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Can't you just block them though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:54 AM
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I think that ghosting is shitty, unless the ghostee in question is a threat to the ghoster. Most people are just normal human beings, and we all have blind-spots for our own behaviors. Every bad date is a teachable experience, but sometimes the lesson gets lost because the other person is too much of a coward to... what... tell the truth? How is someone to improve themself when they don't know what they did wrong? It's the uncertainty that fucks with you. As an over-thinker, I'll tell you that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:52 AM
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Honestly, you do them a disservice by sparing their feelings lol. They need to be vibe-checked occasionally, just like men. Nothing wrong with giving them the truth. (so long as they aren't a threat to you, of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:41 AM
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Very simple. Ask directly, with reassurance that you'll be cool about it either way. If she misreads it, she's probably a piss-poor communicator that'll waste your time anyway. "How's the vibe?" "Doing alright, or do we need to switch gears?" "Sorry, that date went kinda sideways. We still good?" It's all about acknowledging her role in the dating process and giving her a chance to save face if she needs an exit, without making it seem like you're hanging on to her every word. Lots of dudes scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:39 AM
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I would call myself relatively vanilla, in that sex doesn't need to be some kinky affair for me to go buck-wild, I genuinely don't give a shit. I will try almost anything once, and I'll do a lot to please my partner, but there are some very hard (giggity) exceptions to that. 1: Scat 2: Water-sports 3: Any pain-related shit to do with my junk, sorry but hell no 4: Anything straying into other-dude-territory and I'm 100% out. 5: While I am okay with the idea of a threesome with two ladies, I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:26 AM
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🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:08 AM
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Yikes. When a dude appreciates a woman's beauty, it isn't always objectifying and degrading ya know. We aren't a separate species lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:07 AM
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Not really. I'm a dude, but one of the primary drivers that causes people to go to the gym is sexual competition. Like, I want to be fit for the sake of fitness, but that's frankly not as motivating as seeing your progress physically manifest. People ain't narcissists just cause they're feelin' themselves a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:03 AM
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Am a dude, but here are my unfiltered answers. 1: Why do some women intentionally sexualize themselves at the gym? Either because she likes the attention/how she looks, or it's "for the 'gram." Seems kinda like a question that answers itself tbh. 2: Do men feel uncomfortable as a result? Most of the time, no. I'm not a gym rat, so the concept of socializing at the gym is alien to me. I mostly ignore everybody. I am still a guy, though, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't steal some glances while…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:58 AM
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Fear not, homie
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:40 AM
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I didn't disagree with you lol. I was simply offering my own perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:05 AM
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As a man, I can tell you that I require intelligence for a relationship–no way around it, she's at least got to be capable of considering philosophical questions or it won't last a year. However, I will say that there are certain things COMMON among intelligent women that make me immediately reconsider any kind of relationship. This isn't an exhaustive list, but rather some examples of issues I've run into personally. 1: If the only things they ever want to talk about are intersectional feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:56 AM
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I wouldn't call it "advice" but I would raise my kid to be more active than me, physically. I would also try to teach them nore important life skills like cooking, cleaning, healthy coping, and personal finance. It's crazy how much my parents missed with me, and I feel that my early failures were largely caused by learning those lessons the hard way. I think if I had internalized it all earlier, I would be in a much better position right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:29 AM
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Nahhh fuck that. I want my future partner to love me, but I don't need a pedestal. The only thing I want over my future partner is veto/big-decision power. The only reason I want that is because I've been through a lot of shit, and I know myself enough to believe in my decisions. May seem domineering, but it's just because I trust myself to make the right choices. I would need a partner that also trusts my decisions. To me, if she can do that, she has to be seriously slipping before I'd ever con…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:22 PM
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I'm not filled with hate, but I will admit to some frustration with dating, especially with the ghosting, and double-standards, and the transactional nature of it all. I would say that frustration, that I feel but choose not to feed, is probably the driver for most of the hate coming from men in this subreddit. It's fucking rough out there when you aren't a remarkable guy. I can only assume the hate-filled women of this subreddit have similar experiences which have colored their view of men. I, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:01 AM
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I couldn't be with an obese woman, but if she's a bit on the chunky side I don't really care as long as she's kind and pretty. I'd prefer a reasonably overweight beautiful woman to an athletic unattractive woman, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:54 PM
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Unfortunately, dating as a man involves a lot of pain unless you're incredibly attractive. Many men let this pain get to them, and take it out on other people, mainly the women who reject them. As a dude I empathize, but it ain't right. In some cases, the dude is being extra-nice because he thinks there's a chance for something more. When he is rejected and that is taken off the table, he might decide to cut his losses because he wasn't looking for another friend. That coldness comes across as b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:40 PM
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While I find the traditional setup to be the most appealing, I am currently living the Struggle, so I have calibrated my expectations accordingly. Ultimately, I just want somebody who will be an actual partner to me. Someone who would help me take care of the house, be caring and romantic... Wouldn't be able to resist. Outside of basic attraction, that's basically all of my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:25 PM
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Absolutely. The more people plug into social media, the less people genuinely interact, seems like
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:59 PM
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As a man, I will say that everyone is entitled to set their own standards. But, those standards absolutely can be insane, and they frequently are. I don't think MOST women have insane standards, I just think there's a significant number, enough that they interfere with most dudes' dating lives at some point or other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:30 PM
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Bro whaaaaat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:23 PM
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Well that's what I meant. I was saying that we do need to work on our flaws (racial biases, etc), but that people can't really be judged for their sexual preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:21 PM
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Look friend, you're not abnormal. Plenty of folks are late-bloomers, it's been that way for ages. I know this doesn't sound very helpful, but I don't think you should be super-concerned with how others value you. Women like self-assured men, who place themselves in winning situations. If you improve yourself, for yourself, women are much more likely to notice you. It's also very important to run in more social circles than you strictly need, when you're looking for dates. Trust me man, people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:15 PM
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Jesus christ lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:07 PM
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Even subconscious body language can show romantic interest. Truth is I don't know that he did anything at all, and neither do you, because you weren't there.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 10:06 PM
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Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:03 PM
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You're attributing things to the man that he didn't say, nor did his story imply. Fuck outta here with that mess
/r/MensRights03/01/22 09:57 PM
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Idk. Kinda depends on the place and the culture. Since I live in Kansas, I'm kinda wedged between idiotic confederate-flag-waving dinguses and highly-educated young people who have yet to temper themselves with real experiences. Thus, when I go out to bars, or run into women while on errands, it's about a 80/20 chance. 80% of the time, they are polite and carry the conversation like any other functional adult. But, occasionally I'll run into Ms Gender-Studies, and just about every time I'll be o…
/r/MensRights03/01/22 09:52 PM
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"Man slut"? Is that really the terminology we're using for a guy who had a romantic impulse but didn't act on it?
/r/MensRights03/01/22 09:44 PM
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You are contributing nothing to the conversation.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 09:41 PM
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Oooo this thread is a shitshow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:27 PM
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No lie. We're all human, prone to all manner of flaws. Important thing is to take responsibility and work on those flaws. Romance is often kinda out of our control though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:23 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm too grown for that ish. If she can't sort herself out when I get emotional, I don't really want her anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:21 AM
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Eh, we only have his perspective, so any conclusion based off the anecdote is flawed anyway. I'm more just talking about the issue in general at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:20 AM
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Brother I am twenty-seven years old lol. My point is she ain't a keeper, and if she can't support a good and honest man during a rough time she doesn't deserve to be with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:07 AM
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Or alternatively, if a woman can't handle that, maybe they need to find someone who's less honest with their feelings lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:14 AM
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"Wrong level of disclosure" lmaooo Dude ain't a mind-reader ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:12 AM
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See the problem is that you think this is a gendered issue at all. Anybody who does not bring value to a relationship, should not expect to be swept off their feet by someone who does. At the very least, they shouldn't be bitching about thirst when a spring appears before them. It's fine to want someone out of your league, but don't mope about being lonely to everyone else when you've got options lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:58 PM
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Unfortunately, there is such a thing as "too ugly", and it's pretty much different for everybody. Men and women alike are attracted to certain things, and neither should be shamed or resented for it. But, also probably shouldn't be openly weeping about it if you're going to be a choosy beggar xD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:32 PM
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I have been approached by one single woman in my life. I could sense the crazy from across the room, but I still gave her a shot. Most men aren't in the position to just turn down women before we get to know them, unless there's literally zero attraction. She was just as nuts as I thought so I broke it off pretty quickly, but the point is unless you're some beefcake that's swimming in women, you're probably going to react favorably. The second a woman shows that kind of initiative to me, I'm alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:14 PM
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Hey man, it happens. I only realized I want a traditional relationship this Christmas season tbh. For years I've been chasing the wrong women and wondering why I keep getting my feelings hurt lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:34 PM
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What's fucked up is that she's right to a point, but she doesn't bother to figure out where that point lies. Same issue with most of the "feminists" (I put it in quotes because I respect actual feminists) I see online. They have zero actual life experience, where they have to take responsibility for their actions and their circumstances the way men do, so their feelings aren't tempered by silly things like "reason" or "facts". They're a woman, and women's feelings are valid, so that is that, and…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 12:36 AM
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I know it's a cliche at this point, but time alone is not a measure of success. Life is what it is, man. We can only work within the contraints and circumstances into which we are born. Keep at it, brother! I'm 27 and revisiting college after a decade below the poverty line, so I know how you feel. Our society is soul-crushing when you start from the bottom, so I wish you all the best. If you stay the course and learn to be happy with yourself, it ultimately won't matter to your life-satisfactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:29 PM
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I mean, I don't think relationships are as bleak as all that, because if it's a good relationship both partners will invest and work towards a future as a family. But the dating game? It's fucked right now. A lesson us dudes (generalizing, obviously) need to learn is that we have value without women, just like they have value without us, and it's okay to be picky and alone. Sometimes a game sucks, and it's better to not play, and to get on with your bad self. But, speaking metaphorically about, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:53 PM
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This isn't literally answering your question, but what I say will provide an answer all the same. There have always been, and will always be losers. As long as there is a game to play, someone will lose, and unfortunately that's just the reality of the game. Truth is, if you aren't good at the game, it's best not to play. Focus on shit you're good at, focus on things you want to do that you are capable of on your own. Give yourself goals and ambitions that disregard your relationship status and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:10 PM
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I've never felt threatened by women with standards. I WANT a woman with standards, who pushes me to be a better person. FDS does not only give women advice, it also teaches them hateful rhetoric; it's just objectifying shit, like the bad apples in TRP. Most of the posts on there that I have seen are batshit insane, expecting the man to move mountains while she "chases her bliss" or some shit. Newsflash, we want partners, not dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:41 AM
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I don't enthusiastically support sex work, I vehemently oppose human sex trafficking. I see you're ignoring that to bash on sex workers though. Hypocrisy is a hell of a drug
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:30 AM
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See, the funny thing about OnlyFans is that all the women on there are independent and completely human-trafficking-free, so you've just given me a very riveting reason to continue supporting sex-workers. But by all means, keep flailing around trying desperately to make a point lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:39 AM
3

Yes, yes I would. Mentally ill people aren't incapable of decision-making, unless it's a very VERY debilitating mental illness. Or should we also ban businesses from advertising because it can trick those people too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:21 AM
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I can agree with you that there are DEFINITELY feminists that fit that description, and I've known a couple myself, but the audacity of this guy to say that MOST women are like that is just fucking silly tbh
/r/MensRights20/12/21 07:50 AM
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Yeah for real. And these dudes trying to make it sound like it's an issue because of the mentally ill... like shit guy, being mentally ill doesn't mean the whole world has to bend over backwards to accommodate you. I'm depressed as fuck, but I'm still responsible for my actions tf 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:35 AM
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Careful there bud, your colors are showing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:19 AM
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It absolutely is straightforward, and these dudes are fucking delusional lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:11 AM
1

Let's just address the elephant in the room. Both men and women are capable of leading people on and using them. It is shitty to do so. End of story. Note: If someone tells you they don't want a relationship, just sex, fucking believe them. You're an adult. You're responsible for your own actions, and if you ignore someone's communication, that is 100% your own damn fault. Guy or girl, doesn't matter. E-thots are just that... E-thots. If you're stupid enough to think anything will come of that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:08 AM
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That's cause it's not. Chump is arguing in bad faith, leave him be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:02 AM
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I have a question for you. Do pictures of tits harm a child's physical development? Do pictures of tits lead to dangerous situations, where people could actually die? Oh right, they don't. Because they're PICTURES OF TITS.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:01 AM
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This is ridiculous. Grow up and go outside for a spell, you'll feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:59 AM
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In this hypothetical situation the dude isn't lying either...? "I don't want a relationship," does not mean, "Oh, I'm just playing mysterious" Just because he continues to fuck you when he doesn't want a relationship doesn't mean he's going to fall for you. There's a chance sometimes, but you're an adult and you're making the decision to continue the relationship with a guy who either doesn't know what he wants, or is being up-front about what he wants. If a woman told me she wasn't looking for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:56 AM
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Nah. Get out more, guy. Our issues aren't nonexistent, but most women are just chill-ass people like the rest of us.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 06:35 AM
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I agree, but sadly I am also very reserved. I struggle to approach women I don't already know because I don't want to become the target of an accusation. Logically, I know the vast majority of women are cool and won't be like that, but the thought remains at the back of my head nonetheless, and there are few things I dread more than a reputation for unwanted advances. EDIT: Thanks! Got caught up in what I was writing and forgot to accept the compliment! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:20 PM
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Honestly I leave myself open to opportunities and getting to know new and different women. I have disqualifiers, but I do not have conscious qualifiers. Generally speaking, the qualities I do find very attractive are kindness, fitness (not an olympian, just making an effort), and straightforwardness. I don't like to play the guessing game, and I always worry I will hurt feelings when I have anything negative to say; but when a woman is straightforward with me, that usually means that I can be st…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:58 AM
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I'll preface this with the disclaimer that I'm not a red-piller, and I see men and women as different in some ways, but largely both are people, and that's how I try to see them. Also, while I don't think the whole "x-value male/female" stuff is wrong, I do think that it can be super divisive and objectifying to both men and women, so bear that in mind–values are subjective, and ultimately it's all in the eye of the beholder. Most of these traits are applicable to any gender, but they simply ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 08:41 AM
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That bitterness is a bitch, and it definitely goes both ways. I've said some regrettable things to a couple women in my past out of frustration, and I think that happens to most people that aren't naturally in-tune with all the dating "games". Shit is just frustrating when you want to find someone nice, don't even have wild standards, and yet people manage to fall short every damn time lol That said, and this is addressing men and women alike, don't let your bitterness and hang-ups about our shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:58 AM
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Bro that ain't even remotely true, go talk to real-life people for a few minutes, shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:49 AM
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That's... untrue. If those people learn how to manage their anger, and face the underlying problems that cause that anger (super-demanding perfectionist parents, for example), it's very possible to "solve" anger issues. I say "solve" because the urges may not go away with active self-monitoring and treatment, but the behaviors usually do. I had anger issues growing up, and these days I'm cool as a cucumber 9 times out of 10, and that one time I do get genuinely enraged I stop interacting with pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:47 AM
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You were just saying mother is the only woman who won't judge you, but evidently that's not the case for you. Sorry you've had bad experiences. But that isn't all women. Some women are supportive, and kind. Internet's got you fucked up.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 12:27 PM
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As a dude who knows feminism is all outta whack... bro, don't be generalizing folks. Women generalizing men is exactly how we got here in the first place. Don't act like them tf
/r/MensRights03/11/21 07:23 PM
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As a guy, it's possible for me to lose interest, but it's almost always due to physical or mental changes in the person, I don't think I have ever phased out of my preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:23 PM
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I think the movement as a whole has completed most of its goals, and really has nowhere else to go. The rest of the work is really just implementing those progressive values in our families and investing in our future. But you still have loads of people that have made it their whole identity to "fight the patriarchy." Thus, instead of being a force for equality and opportunity, it's often used as a justification for shitty behavior, to silence/ignore men (in a social sense, not a violent one, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:36 PM
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Y'all got it fucked up. Women don't want a luxury tax on their hygienic necessities. Fuck right off.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/12/19 02:05 AM
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My bad, man. I read into it too much. This sub tends to be pretty awful about it, sorry I assumed.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/09/19 05:04 AM
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I'm just saying that she wasn't inflicting eat-through-a-straw injuries, but it looked like he might've sent her to veggie-town if it continued. Still super-wrong of her to attack him, and the bystanders should have reacted quicker, but it seemed more to me like they were reacting to the escalation rather than "dude hit girl". But who am I kidding, this is an incel sub at this point. Rah, rah, let's hate women.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/09/19 03:18 AM
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Tbf, they probably just jumped in because the fight was escalating, not because it was a dude hitting a girl. Looked like that guy was starting to do serious damage, I would have stepped in too.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/19 09:19 PM
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This isn't ok to do imho. Why would you go out of your way to hurt someone else just because they sell themselves? That's what we all do anyway, fuck it.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/11/18 09:38 AM
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If you are using disposable dishes on the regular, you are producing more trash. In my honest opinion, we as a society need to produce less trash. That being said, of course an adult can use nothing but disposable dishes if they want. But I (and many others, I am sure) would judge them as being lazy, thoughtless and hard to live with. And that's coming from a VERY lazy person here. EDIT: Not to mention the sheer amount of monetary waste they would put themselves through. That alone would be pret…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 07:54 AM
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"Once they have a house and see a bunch of dishes pile up, they'll do the dishes." Yeah, or maybe they'll take the advent of disposable dishes as a personal sign and be a lazy fuck because they weren't taught the value of maintenance. You'd be surprised what some of us "adults" will do when we decide something is too much work to bother with.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 07:34 AM
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Ah, he's a better man than I.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/03/16 09:29 PM
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Well in that case... Shit, man. Take her money.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/07/15 07:21 AM
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Lol, wtf. That is ridiculously accurate.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/05/15 07:28 PM
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