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My sexuality didn't change. I had all that casual sex because I was horny and I have sex with my husband all the time because I'm still horny. I tried a whole bunch of stuff because I was curious. Some of it I didn't like and wouldn't do again. No one has ever complained because (1) I chose serious partners who actually cared that I felt comfortable and enjoyed sex, and (2) I'm really not sexually inhibited in my long-term relationships. All my partners have remarked that I am much more sexual t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:32 PM
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lmao that one really went right over your head
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:17 PM
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And making fun of "rabbit food." It would make more sense to claim that conservative women who prefer fit men are secretly craving leftist dick. Like it would still be stupid to claim that, but it would be less stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:02 PM
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a rugged body It's so funny to associate this with conservatism when red states tend to have much higher obesity rates. Your average liberal man is statistically more likely to be fit than your average conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:41 PM
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They whine when we reject men on politics, even though shared values are probably one of the least shallow things you could look for in a relationship. They whine when we reject socially awkward or boring men, because apparently personality isn't supposed to matter either. They just hate that we can choose, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:47 PM
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Dating someone you find boring is a terrible idea. Avoiding boring men is completely rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:52 PM
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My ex and I met in person and hooked up that night. He later showed me his OKC profile so we could check our compatibility score -- yes, I'm old. His profile was terrible. He chose unflattering pictures, barely wrote anything about himself and the stuff he did write was pretty inane. I probably would not have matched with him based on that profile alone. He was very attractive and charming in person, but that profile didn't show it. Some people are just really bad at presenting themselves online…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:22 PM
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Yes, especially if he's also into forced bi. I'm a freak who needs a freak. My husband is into neither of those things but we have a very kinky sex life that you would likely find highly off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:01 PM
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Some women do. Other women are simply uninterested for reasons that have nothing to do with their future relationship prospects. I never did and never worried about it because I never wanted to marry a man who cared. I find high-disgust men very sexually boring and we do not share values, so filtering them out is actually a bonus. FWIW I am married and did not really struggle with getting commitment when I wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:23 PM
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I could examine the media straight men consume to get off and conclude that straight men are exclusively attracted to very promiscuous women. I don't think that's true but it's still less of a reach than the point you're trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:09 PM
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Introversion and poor social skills are completely different things. Two people with bad social skills are more likely to piss each other off and part ways, each thinking the other one was the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:29 PM
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Lots of female sex workers are lesbians. They say it makes it easier to compartmentalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:54 PM
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Right? Most straight men like pussy and most people want to please their partners. The "incentive" is a lady cumming all over his face/dick, which is sexy and makes him feel good about himself. I've had sex with a lot of very hot strangers in my life and the overwhelming majority of them were enthusiastic about getting me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:20 PM
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But I do think it is frustrating when people are pathologized nowadays so heavily for not liking casual sex, called religious or stuffy, or told to just have it anyways. There is no general social pressure on women to have casual sex. There are individuals who will pressure you into having casual sex with them and may say those things to manipulate you, but other than maybe a few internet weirdos there's no one telling women to go out and bang a lot of strangers. The people saying "it's fine to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:45 PM
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But I’ve seen a large amount of female friends, coworkers, even classmates from back in community college break down into tears or have a mental health crisis after falling in love with someone they hooked up with. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm saying I've seen how people handle actual breakups -- real, committed relationships, sometimes involving marriage or kids -- and it's way worse. I'm betting those same friends who cried over their hookups would tell you that their real romantic bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:40 PM
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That person wasn't telling you to go suck dicks -- they were pointing out that you have the same ability to get random dick as a woman, and that that ability is not helpful for either of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:15 PM
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Nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:03 PM
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I'm not attracted to ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:30 PM
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Awkward in personality very frequently equates to awkward in bed. I don't want that. Neither do men, they're just more willing to tolerate/risk it. All things being equal they would still prefer to have casual sex with socially competent women. Being socially maladjusted is unattractive, and socially maladjusted people aren't fun to be around. Why deal with some dork to get laid when there are plenty of baseline socially competent men willing to give me some dick and show me a good time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:23 PM
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If you go on a date and you find you're not compatible, you can just... move on. If you choose to try your hardest to impress her anyway in hopes of getting laid, that's your choice. If she knew you found her company tedious, she would relieve you of the burden. So much of this discourse is just "ugh I hate how these dumb bitches believe that I like them when I pretend like I like them."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:18 PM
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And let me guess -- you think you're a special exception! Male delusion knows no bounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:50 PM
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By your logic, I could say unselected men are bad in bed because they aren't giving women any orgasms. Definitionally, they don't get much chance!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:27 PM
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The study covers university students. It also indicates that female bullies experience these benefits as well, which is something no one ever talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:05 PM
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I've always been honest about my (very high) number and none of my boyfriends have cared because they've all been similarly promiscuous. So are most of their exes, and most of the people in our respective social circles. My most serious ex is engaged to a porn star. My husband was initially a tinder hookup. Most of friends are married to guys they met hooking up. I intentionally choose not to associate with prudes or conservatives. I live in the slut bubble, along with everyone whose opinion on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:51 PM
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Porn addiction isn't real and I find it very disturbing how many women are happy to pathologize normal masturbation just because it makes them insecure. I find it just as concerning how many men have been conned into believing themselves addicts for perfectly normal behavior. It's not healthy to have such a combative relationship with your own sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:39 PM
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A man doesn't need seduction skills to cheat, just a little money and a willingness to pay the appropriate professional. A lot of socially awkward guys out there have both those things! I'm not going to burden myself with a socially awkward or boring partner just because he's less likely to cheat on me for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:01 PM
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I promise you those men are 100% diving face first into the vaginas of women they would never introduce to their families. Most straight men like pussy. Most straight women like dick. Oral sex is a normal part of sex, not a kinky power dynamic thing. Even very sexually dominant types often enjoy performing it. It's called sloppy TOPPY for a reason!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:26 PM
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Lmao it's so funny how you guys are either mad at us for being a hive mind or mad at us for not being a hive mind. Enjoy your sex bot!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:26 PM
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Yeah, no shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:19 PM
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Would they even like him? Would he even like them? He's dating the women he's dating for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:58 PM
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High/low inhibition, like gender, is a massive oversimplication of human interaction that nonetheless explains some stuff sorta well. Going all-in on a new partner, even one who seems to strongly reciprocate, is fundamentally risky. There are a lot of very good reasons to keep a handle on your emotions and behave in a more guarded way, even if that's not nearly as fun. Your level of risk tolerance is going to have a lot to do with which approach you take.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:43 PM
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no bad habits like drinking/smoking. Oh so he's a high-inhibition guy dating high-inhibition women and expecting them to act like low-inhibition women. I've never had a serious relationship that didn't start off super intense and I met my husband at 32. But I'm not really the "settling down" type and I would not be compatible with a teetotal. I don't even have any friends I would describe as high-inhibition. We do not vibe, and the feeling is mutual. Half the shit you guys ascribe to gender is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:21 PM
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I am sympathetic! I think everyone should have access to mental healthcare. But this just seems like one guy with untreated anxiety who thinks everyone is just as anxious as he is, which is actually a major barrier to getting help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:27 AM
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You are describing social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:24 PM
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I've known guys like that, but instead of HR reports it was literally groping. You aren't special, you're just anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:08 PM
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That's literally just anxiety. It's pretty common across people of all genders. The thing where you think your anxiety is somehow the actually valid kind is also very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:05 PM
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It's wild when guys here post about their special man-feels that women could never understand and then the special man-feel is just "I get nervous talking to my crush." It's common to get nervous talking to your crush. If it's really bad you might have social anxiety. You're projecting your own mental illness on all men, but they're just... putting a normal amount of effort into flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:02 PM
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Not all of them, but honestly a whole lot of them. There have been a few cuties but most of them are people I probably wouldn't be interested in at first glance. People let themselves go in LTRs. I might have found him attractive when they first got together, but that was 6 years ago and he's fat now. His partner has a long-running emotional connection with him and might not love the changes but they're not going to affect her attraction to him in the same way. On the other hand, I watched one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:00 AM
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Literally impossible. Even if she sleeps with him early, often, and enthusiastically he can always tell himself she might have done more for Chad. If she says no at any point for any reason he can tell himself she would have said yes to Chad. Even non-sexual stuff like arguments over house chores turn into "well you would have tolerated this for Chad!" The smart thing to do is immediately discard any man who seems remotely preoccupied by the issue. Most men are not this neurotic, so her odds of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:04 PM
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All my longterm partners started as hookups. They were exceptionally great hookups, and we clicked on a personality level, and they met my relationship standards -- but they were hookups before I knew any of that. If I'm not interested in sleeping with someone early on I have no interest in dating him either. I wouldn't risk getting emotionally invested before checking chemistry/compatibility, as those things are highly important to me. People with unrestricted sociosexuality pair off together. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:43 PM
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They're both losers. You don't get to force people into relationships/sex they don't want just because they're losers, but you also don't have to pretend they aren't losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:24 PM
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Your husband is statistically way likelier to rape or assault you than your hookup. Even if your hookup is literally a violent abuser, he probably won't do that to you until you've been in a committed relationship with him for a while. One date or three doesn't really make a difference there. I've had sex with a whole lot of really hot strangers, none of them assaulted me and the vast majority of them cared about getting me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:10 AM
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I've had sober hookups and I've been to dry weddings. Neither one is necessarily bad, but both activities are more fun with alcohol. Once I realized this I just stopped bothering with the teetotals -- no shade to them, but they're just not the experience I want. I wouldn't choose to vacation at a dry resort, either. A lot of the pearl-clutchers here seem to believe that anyone who drinks on dates is getting absolutely shithoused. Nah. You have two drinks flirting at the bar and go home while eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:49 PM
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Dude listen to how these idiot virgins talk about casual sex. It's wild. They really think it's like having a free submissive sex worker who is obsessed with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:54 PM
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How would you know how well they treated them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:08 PM
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It's only harder because most women have no interest in casual sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:52 PM
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All my longterm partners started as hookups. "FWB material" is a guy who is cool for sex but incompatible/flawed in some way that makes me not want to spend too much time with him or merge lives with him. I am not interested in wasting any time on men who are lacking or ungenerous sexually, which is why I check early on. I notice a lot of the idiot unfuckables who post here have a very specific stupid fantasy about What Casual Sex Is Like and probably wouldn't even enjoy the reality. I'm sure it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:04 PM
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eat more and better (he was skinny), go to the gym, take care of his skin and hair, and recommended some moisturizers I use (he has dry facial skin like mine, but moisturizers do the trick). I mean this is all fairly basic but practical advice to become more physically attractive, which is 100% something you should do if you're struggling with dating. What about this advice do you think is bad? Also: y'all are expecting a fucking algorithm. No such thing exists, and anyone who claims otherwise i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:01 PM
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No shit, "I want my tax dollars to go towards housing immigrants" and "I don't want to give up my home to strangers" are not contradictory. "I have the right to engage in consensual sex" and "I have the right not to be forced into sex/relationships I don't want" are not remotely contradictory -- they're both just basic parts of having bodily autonomy. I can make up dumb contradictions too. You say you don't want to be shot in the head, but you wear headphones sometimes! You claim you enjoy sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:25 PM
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A dating system in which women are not literal sex slaves is not "capitalism."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:50 PM
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Money and women are different things. I do believe in redistributing wealth -- money doesn't care what you do with it, and billionaires could live very comfortable lives with much less. I do not believe in redistributing women because that is literally sex slavery. People who view women as fungible resources are fundamentally bad people who do not deserve love or sex or even friendship. These guys not getting laid is good, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:16 PM
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Good. Excessively jealous people are bad partners and shouldn't try to date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:01 PM
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They usually do! Just not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:58 AM
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There is no magic age at which people are free of baggage and it's extremely silly that anyone thinks otherwise. Young people suffer much more intensely from family-of-origin baggage but usually manage to kick it in time to replace it with general life baggage. Are these women "hung up" on their exes or do they just occasionally mention the guys with whom they spent literal years of their lives in a way that's not negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:31 PM
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The top comments rn are all from men claiming they treat everyone the same regardless. They're definitely lying (maybe to themselves as well) but definitely not being straightforward about that lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:16 PM
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This is how women tend think about hookup material. A lot of men jack off to stupid fucking fantasies about being the object of "pure carnal lust" and get confused about reality, which is that she just thinks "well he's hot enough but lacking in some way."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:56 AM
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What is confusing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:56 AM
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If I am fully unethical and want to make a man fall in love with for reasons other than a "mutually healthy relationship" -- let's say he's rich but ugly and I would like to spend his money while cheating on him a lot -- how do you think I'd go about that? I'd present myself as his perfect woman. I'd lie about any potential dealbreakers, tell him my fuckbuddy is my gay bestie, pretend to be attracted to him even though I find him hideous, and pretend to find him fascinating even though he bores …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:22 PM
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I had lots of fun hookups with smaller guys but have never in my adult life committed to exclusivity with an average or below-average penis, and would not. Obviously I didn't say that out loud because I'm not a rude bitch, but do you think those guys would be flattered if they knew why they were hookup material only?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:32 PM
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Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. It's very upsetting. That's why it's so satisfying when bad things happen to bad people. Anyone who advocates for literal sex slavery deserves neither sex nor love, so it actually rocks when they don't get it. If you think you deserve special justice blowjobs for being a "good guy" while literally advocating for sex slavery then your opinions are morality are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:27 PM
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I don't care how good a person you are -- if I don't find you attractive, I'm not fucking you. I am a human having sex for my own enjoyment, not for some incel's concept of "the greater good." You want to turn women into justice-dispensing sex slaves. And you somehow think you're a "good guy." The whole thing where you want to turn women into justice-dispensing sex slaves 100% precludes you from being a good guy. Even in your own system you "deserve" zero blowjobs. Hope this helps!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:47 PM
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When I was in my early to mid twenties I had an age limit for going dutch. I'd do it with guys my own age no problem. More than a few years older, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:55 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone claim that women overall have amazing dating profiles. Who is saying this? I've heard women say that male dating profiles are often bad, which is true. Are those same women claiming that female profiles are overall somehow better? If so, I haven't seen it. If they're straight, how would they know enough to even reach that conclusion? If they're bi and you're not, why do you think you know better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:15 AM
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It being sad for them doesn't make the concern invalid. Most of the time they're not getting rejected for the inexperience itself, more the causes and symptoms of said inexperience. Just fix those things and lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:55 PM
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Depends on what kind. The guys getting turned down specifically for inexperience are not guys who spent years in one or two relationships and didn't rack up partners outside that. They're guys who have never had a relationship and are virgins or close to it, because that type of inexperience is a PITA to deal with after a certain age regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:09 PM
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Inexperience after a certain age is a red flag. It's true in women too -- and a lot of men would actually agree with that! -- but the rest of you pretend it isn't true due to fetishism/social programming. Horny sheep are entitled to their preferences too. But it's very silly to act like there's a double standard when the entire double standard is caused by women generally having better judgement about one specific issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:20 PM
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53 – 74% self-diagnosed or saw themselves with spectrum traits. Dumb guys who are socially awkward love to self-diagnose with autism. Most of them don't even have it. They're just unattractive and annoying, which is why no one wants to date them. Neurotypical people can be socially awkward too!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:47 PM
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They already do! Unrealistic standards are not actually a problem for most people. A whole lot of people have excessively low standards, and could frankly stand to raise them. If you're totally unfuckable, it's not because of "unrealistic standards." It's you are so undesirable that you are excluded by everyone's standards. Also: a lot of times you get rejected it's not because you're too ugly or too poor. It's because the other person simply does not enjoy your company and doesn't want to fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:37 PM
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I thought you were speaking more figuratively. I did actually -- but we were chatting on a dating app so that hardly counts. You seem weirdly emotional about this. Why are you choosing to yell at me? There are plenty of women who just don't approach men because they don't want to and they don't have to. I've stated that I routinely approached men when single. To be clear, I think yelling at those women would be a very stupid waste of your time as well. I just want to understand why I'm the targe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:38 PM
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I hit him up on tinder. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:23 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:22 PM
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Obviously we had to do that stuff to start dating at all. But it's not why I love him, nor do I consider it the foundation of our relationship. It does not invalidate my current feelings that I initially filed him as "fun younger guy to fuck around with" rather than "future husband."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:30 AM
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If you're 5 years in worrying about who approached who or who liked who the most back when you barely knew each other... your relationship sucks. If it didn't suck, you wouldn't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:50 PM
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Are you currently drunk or on drugs? You're not very coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:16 PM
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I just said I routinely approached men when I was single. What are you on about? Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:13 PM
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I don't give a single shit about traditional values.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:05 PM
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I did routinely approach attractive men when I was single. Why would I approach a man I didn't find attractive? That seems like leading him on for no reason, which is cruel to him and bothersome to me, because now I need to deal with an ugly guy who thinks I'm interested. if the guys a red flag you would know it instantly if you were the one approaching him. This is an enormous bunch of bullshit that makes no sense. So is the thing where women claim approaching puts them at risk of being used fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:53 PM
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Imagine thinking "you support universal healthcare but don't want to hook up with ugly losers" is some kind of gotcha. Ugly losers deserve universal healthcare, too! They do not deserve my pussy. Those are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:38 PM
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Yes, I think it's good to redistribute money and bad to redistribute literal human beings. There's nothing hypocritical about that and anyone who feels otherwise is a sociopath who fully deserves to be exiled from society. "Oh you think wealth inequality is bad but draw the line at sex slavery." YES. SURE DO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:39 PM
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Female slob here, and I've been saying this! My ex and I were both slobs. He did absolutely nothing to clean up besides nagging me to do it, which wasn't very successful because I am pretty okay with living in squalor. He was fine living in squalor, too -- I know that, because I saw how he lived when we met and it was way worse than the place we shared. The mess only became a problem when he had a lady around he could (sorta) bitch into cleaning for him. Interesting. I suspect a lot of men go fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:38 PM
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I tended to date around more when I wanted a relationship in order to increase my odds of finding a real connection. I think it's because (1) I live in a place and was dating within a demographic where multidating was incredibly normalized so dates were usually doing the same thing and didn't care, and (2) my relationships tend to start intensely so if there wasn't some sort of emotional connection by the second date I always just filed them as casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:41 PM
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Sleeping with a bunch is the exact same strategy, just with more information!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:40 PM
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Fair enough. I'm curious though -- do you actually use your words to ask for exclusivity or just hope she happens to be on the same page?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:06 PM
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Then you're probably not the kind of person I'd be romantically interested in. I don't connect well with non-hedonists. No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:55 PM
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When I was single I maintained a rotation and slept with all of them. How would I know if they were worth keeping around otherwise? That said most of my relationships started kind of intensely so everyone else got the boot pretty fast because I was spending all my time with the new person and simply did not have availability for the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:29 PM
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They don't, sexlessness rates are about the same for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:46 PM
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So as you all know there's a growing incel / male loneliness / lack of sexual & romantic connection phenomenon specially affecting young men. No there isn't. You "know" this because you are a gullible person who reads a bunch of stupid propaganda. In reality there is a loneliness epidemic affecting everyone across genders, but mostly young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:31 PM
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It means bad conversationalist and not fun to hang out with. INCREDIBLY valid reason to reject a man, tbh. Dudes here pretend it just means "not a criminal" so they can pretend they were rejected for stupid reasons rather than very good ones. Or they pretend it means "ultimate social butterfly" so they can whine about ridiculously high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:44 PM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:20 PM
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There aren't that many involuntarily single men, they're just loud online. You've fallen for propaganda. A lot of sad singles are just lazy and entitled. They expect their perfect partner to fall into their lap, magically wanting all the same things, and they get real mad it's not happening. Dates that don't pan out are literally a normal part of dating and you people are all fucking babies about it. I read men whining here and watch women whining on Tiktok and a whole lot of you are just furiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:27 PM
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The world is run by ugly nerds. They are not trying to stop women from fucking ugly nerds, I promise. But I guess conspiracy theorists will believe any dumb thing as long as it makes not getting laid someone else's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:02 PM
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"When I don't get my dick sucked that's eugenics and it's bad. When I do get my dick sucked that's natural selection and it's fine."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:56 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:37 PM
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There is literally no such thing as an environment that does not affect evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:09 PM
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I'm straight and have always been more attracted to bisexual men. Idk why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:24 PM
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"I love to live in fantasyland but it's everyone else who's in denial."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:14 PM
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Yeah, it's way more fun to make up a silly little fairy tale about how everyone who disagrees with you is "in denial."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:10 PM
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Okay, but you're not actually doing that. You're just fantasizing about doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:11 PM
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As someone with my own extreme beliefs, I've never gotten why you guys insist on deluding yourselves that your ideological opponents secretly agree with you. I guess it makes you feel more like a sexy subversive alpha to imagine "women are mad at me because they know I'm right!" vs "women literally think I'm stupid."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:20 PM
0

No. Your boyfriend or husband is dramatically likelier to rape you than your ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:59 PM
1

You don't have that knowledge in a relationship, either! Statistically, your committed partner is much likelier to become violent towards you than your hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:42 PM
2

I think a lot of women (and also men, actually) just don't like casual sex, but they don't know that til they try it. Often the attempt happens when everyone involved is young, inexperienced, and also drunk so it ends up being a pretty mediocre time even if you're not really bothered by the casual nature of the encounter. I had good experiences. I don't have religious hangups, I'm good at communicating what I want, and I had reasonable expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:21 PM
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It's always "ugly short autistic people" and never anyone actually physically disabled, even though they struggle with dating far more. I have sympathy for both groups! More for the guys in wheelchairs, but still. 0 sympathy for guys who think they can or should "fairly" redistribute pussy, though. I do very much think those guys should die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:14 PM
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We do have a fair amount of evidence re: his basic ability to comprehend the world around him, though, and it's not looking great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:14 PM
3

I think you are giving him credit for social skills and self awareness he is very unlikely to possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:07 PM
14

The idea that a dating market isn't "fair" unless the most undesirable people alive are able to easily find partners is literally such fucking bullshit. A dating market where the most undesirable people alive struggle immensely is a dating market that's working.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:00 PM
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As someone who has had a fuck ton of one night stands -- yes, we literally do. Your personality won't get you into bed with someone who thinks you're totally unfuckable, but it can fully reverse an initial yes or turn a maybe into a fuck yeah. That's not nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:59 PM
3

They're both fine, y'all are prudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:17 PM
2

Ask everyone out to drinks immediately without too much texting and suggest somewhere convenient to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:52 PM
3

Sometimes I think misogyny is really just a side effect of being incredibly stupid. It must be hard to go through life as a dumb guy. You live in a culture that tells you you're smarter and more competent than women, but then nearly all of them are smarter and more competent than you. Poor things get confused and start believing conspiracy theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:43 PM
0

You seem to think having standards at all is "upholding patriarchy." Expand on that. Preferring to have sex with people who are charming and good at sex is very normal. Just because men are likelier to settle for less doesn't mean they wouldn't prefer the charming good-in-bed woman if they had to choose one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:09 AM
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Misogyny rots your brain. Go read a book and see if you can finally figure out basic concepts like "women disagreeing with each other." It's really not that complicated, I promise!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:05 AM
0

Men will literally fuck anything, that means jack shit. But realistically you're imagining some adorkable blushing virgin and not some really annoying chick who can't carry a conversation and uses way too much teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:55 AM
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The concept of feminists disagreeing with each other has clearly confused you enormously and I really don't know what to do with someone who lacks reading comprehension to this extent. Go read actual books, maybe you'll figure it out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:54 AM
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Awkwardness and sexual incompetence are neither feminine nor masculine traits -- they are annoying traits that make everyone of any gender/sexuality less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:14 AM
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My entire TL on multiple sites just got taken over by feminist bickering over the Sabrina Carpenter album cover, with zoomer puriteens and radfems calling her a "male-centered woman" and then different types of feminists calling them out for using feminism as an excuse for slut-shaming. That was last week. Constant discourse on TikTok about "male-centered women" which is just an evolution of "pick mes" and "not like other girls girls." Again, feminists calling out women for upholding patriarchy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:12 AM
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They literally do, though. All the time. You don't engage with feminism in any way whatsoever or you'd know that. Everything you know about feminism is something you learned from grifters who earn a living by making you angry, and you've never been intellectually curious enough to verify what they tell you. Yet you are very confident! How incredibly embarrassing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:06 PM
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Why do you people always act like "women uphold the patriarchy" is some sorta gotcha and not just literally Feminism 101? Feminism describes a very diverse set of beliefs, and that's probably one of the very few things all the very different factions actually agree on. Congrats on using your special genius male brain to figure out something that every feminist has taken as a given since before you were born! You are clearly the best feminism-understander! That said: if you define basic social an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:29 PM
1

Sorta, but if #2 isn't charismatic enough to be someone I'd sleep with that night he gets demoted to #1. All my serious partners have started as hookups. I wouldn't get romantically invested without checking sexual chemistry. Seems risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:51 PM
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But they still messaged those men. Men assigned ratings on a bell curve but spent the vast majority of their time messaging the top-rated women. Also the OKC study is like 15 years old and not particularly relevant to online dating today because the site worked very differently from modern dating apps, and people had very different attitudes towards online dating than they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:52 PM
1

I hope to god they die alone and untouched so no woman ever has to tolerate their bullshit. A lot of them are very frustrated, so it seems like the system is at least kinda working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:03 PM
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Idk about "most" and the percentage will vary heavily by demographic but it's definitely a thing. I love bisexual men, and many of my friends would consider it a neutral to positive, but I'm aware my social circle leans a certain way. It's common because biphobia is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:42 PM
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If I believed half of what the manosphere says about men I would never speak to a man for free again. I found FDS kinda interesting as a phenomenon because it fully accepted pretty much everything TRP says about men, and advised women to act accordingly. Their advice makes perfect sense in a world where TRP is correct about men. It's only bad advice because TRP is dumb as shit and none of that crap is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:26 PM
2

I'm middling! But you seem very emotional right now, and I'm not interested in playing therapist. Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:47 PM
2

All I said is that I've never had a man overdo it to a point where I was bothered or turned off, despite extensive experience with men explicitly asking me for consent. I just described an experience. And you took that personally! But also it's literally not that hard, the guys who find it super confusing are exceptionally socially unskilled. That's not a crime, nor is it impossible to fix. It just feels bad on your ego, which doesn't make it less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:28 PM
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I have never in my life encountered a man whose excessive requests for consent killed the mood. I spent many years having sex with lots of progressives/leftists who do that kind of thing and this just... isn't a problem. The explicit consent requests have always been hot at best and neutral at worst. Anyway this particular woman seems like she just makes a lot of inflammatory videos. I kinda doubt she even believes what she's saying. She just wants views. Are you her? No seriously, this post is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:52 PM
1

People say that but it doesn't really. Most people want to see their sexual partners have a good time. Most straight men like pussy. The guys who don't care are just as selfish with their wives -- the only difference is that they might get her off on birthdays and anniversaries. The guys who do care are just as generous with their hookups because that's part of the appeal of having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:38 PM
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The same guys complain that schools are "stacked against boys" and consider academia pretty worthless -- so no, they don't have academic intelligence either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:30 PM
2

The guys who pay me to kick them in the nuts sometimes describe the experience as "healing" too. It's a fun intense horny experience that provides a certain level of emotional catharsis. Also sleeping around a bunch after a breakup does often get you over it in a hurry, to a degree that can feel like a cheat code for heartbreak. "That was fun and made me feel good" turns into "therapeutic" real fast when the activity in question is stigmatized. My clients use the "healing" language a whole lot, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:26 PM
1

No joke, they probably should. They don't because they're stupid and arrogant and think they're smarter than women. It's also not like every woman alive has an amazing personality and writing abilities -- neither does every man, for that matter -- but yes, I do think most averagely intelligent women who understand what you're looking for could write you a more appealing profile than you can write yourself. Men do not think of themselves as objects of desire and are bad at presenting themselves t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:32 PM
1

Cheating with the stripper at the bachelor/ette party is a particularly dramatic type of cheating, which makes it a great subject if you're writing fiction on reddit advice subs. It's also not like anyone feels the need to go post on advice subs about how their future spouse didn't have any strippers at the bach and nothing shady happened at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:45 PM
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Conventional masculinity bores the crap out of me and androgyny is a huge turn-on. If there's nothing subversive in his gender expression, I'm not interested. The "one of the girls" guys are the only ones I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:33 PM
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Onlyfans is a company. It is not "feminist" or "pro-feminist." As a company, even compared to very similar fanclub-style websites, it has worse politics than most of them! Loyalfans is way better. Anyway, the answer is that people hate sex workers and believe in the myth of porn addiction, which does not actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:13 PM
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Are you kidding? It's way harder to tell height from photos. I've had people tell me they assumed I'd be significantly taller than I am and I was never even trying to make myself look tall. By contrast, I've never really been surprised by someone's fitness level. OKC had a "body type" filter back in the day and literally no one cared, this isn't the gotcha you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:08 AM
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You can, it's called looking at the photos. It's how I filtered out the fat guys when I was on the apps, and it was pretty effective. If you can't tell, it usually means they're fat. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:35 PM
1

I haaaaate being on the clock, I don't care about limiting matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:27 PM
1

When I was on OLD I just set up dates immediately after matching, so I basically did this already. No way in hell would I pay for some app to force me to do it, or respond on a certain timeline, or penalize me for ghosting. I hated the Bumble timer. Dating is a leisure activity. It's supposed to be fun. I wouldn't sign up for an app that turned it into a chore, even if it were free.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:14 PM
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You don't seem like you have very much joy in your life!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:29 PM
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Spot on, tbh. True sluttiness takes joie de vivre. A man with no joie de vivre will always struggle to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:32 PM
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I way prefer vain men because they don't let themselves go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:37 PM
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Then why are you whining about it? Unattractive men are romantically irrelevant to me, regardless of their morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:05 PM
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Why do you expect me to spend the rest of my life exclusively having sex with someone I find unattractive? Who does that benefit besides (maybe) the unattractive guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:00 PM
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Probably worth mentioning that quote is from the 80s, making it roughly 50 years old. It probably did describe a larger swath of men then than now. It is very definitely still accurate for a smaller group today. #NotAllMen and I do mean that sincerely -- I don't even think it's most men. It's definitely some of them, and a lot of the ones who post here! They want a woman, but they hate women, and the combo makes them extremely confused. Reading comprehension here is terrible so you're just going…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:10 PM
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Yes, it's completely identical. The women who won't date bi men are exactly the same as the guys who are hung up on bodycount. Preferences can say a lot about who you are as a person, and those people are massive fucking wimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:43 PM
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This is all so vague I'm not sure you have a genuine complaint in here. I rarely ever tried, but even I have made a woman feel upset by telling her I'm into her after the initial conversation was going well. Simply due to the fact that she was fed up with that happening all the time. She wanted a friend, or even just a friendly one-off interaction that's just nice, and yet, it turned into "here we go again". It was a once in a lifetime thing for me, and a "not again..." thing for her. It is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:29 PM
3

Please don't take offense to this question, I am genuinely curious. Do you have aphantasia?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:03 PM
5

So you're saying that couples should ideally have very little sex in order to preserve the spark when they do have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:47 PM
2

All the looks discourse here is just a bunch of ugly guys who thought of themselves as people and women as products, then got very angry when the products reviewed them right back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:34 PM
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Lesbians are way likelier to be in relationships than gay men, it's absolutely a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:13 PM
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They're not implying large age gaps. Most 29 year old women are in relationships, and very often with a guy over 30. Doesn't mean the age gap is large -- it's usually just the standard 1 - 3 years. 21 year olds are substantially less likely to be dating anyone at all. Average age of first marriage in the US is 30.2 for men and 28.4 for women. If you keep using a stupid flawed metric people are going to keep explaining to you why it's a stupid flawed metric. If you lack the basic English language…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:04 PM
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Realizing that a lot of the guys here literally believe that growing as a person is evil and stupid explains so much, I s2g.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:35 PM
0

This is exactly why it's also a great idea for women to go through a lot of FWBs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:40 PM
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Idk if it's "misogynistic." It's controlling. It's a red flag that should get you dumped. Mostly, it's just extremely lame. Controlling, jealous people simply do not deserve love. I don't have a gendered double standard about that, before you start whining at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:33 PM
2

If you don't understand that eating pussy is fucking, you can't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:35 PM
2

They're more akin to ugly men who want hot women -- that's an entirely normal thing to want, and the wanting alone doesn't make you a loser. You just probably won't succeed, which is fine, and if you act superior to your equivalents that is indeed loser shit. But the desire itself doesn't scream "I can't fuck" in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:46 PM
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Right? Like they whine about our preferences constantly and act like it's a crime that we are not attracted to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:14 AM
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Yes, it's a preference. You're allowed to date who you like. You aren't allowed to pretend that your preference says nothing about you as a person. It says a lot about you! The thing it says is that you are a massive loser. You don't get to throw a tantrum and demand that people pretend you aren't a massive loser. So much of bodycount discourse is just the lamest guys alive demanding that everyone pretends they're cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:22 PM
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I hate jealous bullshit so if he worried about my fidelity I'd dump him. Also any hangup about my sexual past is a dealbreaker, as I would lose respect for him instantly. Most other stuff I think I have a pretty normal amount of tolerance for. Insecurities are normal, and I don't expect perfection. The specifics matter less than how he's dealing with it -- and there's a very wide range of ways to deal with insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:08 PM
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People always act like casual sex is riskier than committed relationships, which is BS. A hookup gone wrong might ruin your week, but a relationship that goes wrong enough can ruin your life or at least steal years of it. Statistically, your committed romantic partner is way more likely to abuse you than your hookup or FWB. Someone you love and have heavily entangled yourself with can emotionally scar you + upturn your entire life without doing anything abusive or even unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:45 PM
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The entire red pill, summed up: "extremely normal human behavior is EVIL, but ONLY when women do it." If the behavior in question is genuinely shitty they'll find a way to explain why it's actually fine, but only for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:56 PM
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People (including you, OP) put far too much weight on the earliest stages of the relationship. That shit barely matters a few years down the line, if it matters at all. If you're 5 years deep worrying about who liked who most in the beginning, or whether you were the "first choice" back when you barely knew each other: your relationship probably sucks. If it didn't suck, you wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:28 PM
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The whole scenario is a fantasy-ruiner. Loser men fantasize about being Chad, treating beautiful women with disinterest and having those women respond by offering MORE sex and MORE submission, doing anything just to get a crumb of attention and a vague possibility of commitment. A woman who responds to disinterest very reasonably -- accepting the rejection and moving on -- is much harder to jerk off about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:42 PM
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But he's doing the man thing of believing that everything he says should be taken at face value and absolutely no signals can be extrapolated from them. That isn't a "man thing." The overwhelming majority of men would read this as a rejection if the shoe were on the other foot, and a few men in the comments have even admitted to rejecting women the same way. It's a "dumb person with poor social skills thing" which is both unattractive and likely to cause relationship issues if things move forwar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:18 PM
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Assuming he's totally right and she prefers same-day dates (he's not, and that's a dumb thing to assume): he is clearly unable to make them. They are incompatible and she was still right to dump him. But realistically: a woman who hits you up to hang out every day is extremely into you and wants to see you real bad. It has nothing to do with her preference for spontaneous plans and everything to do with her preference for hanging out with you, a lot. If you are simply turning her down without su…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:39 PM
3

If that's the case then he's literally a moron and she was totally right to dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:23 PM
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"Hey, my week is swamped unfortunately but I really want to see you. How's X day next week?" Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:21 PM
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If someone turns you down repeatedly and does not attempt to initiate replacement plans, that person is rejecting you on purpose. Why even bother dating someone unwilling/unable to give you the amount of attention you need? Someone else will, and you'll be happier with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:11 PM
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or the past few days she has been asking him to go out and he has been unable to every single day, due to work. So he's either been giving her a "maybe" then cancelling and has done this multiple times, or he's just telling her "not today" with no attempt to make future plans for a day when he's actually available. That is a soft rejection. On the slim chance it's not an intentional rejection, it's still proof that this guy simply does not have the time for a relationship. So she stopped chasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:06 PM
5

Someone left his wife for Casey Anthony.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:41 PM
1

No, I hate the violent abusers more. The overwhelming majority of women are not writing love letters to Wade Wilson. Here's the thing: reading about Wade Wilson is upsetting. Reading about some shitty loser who can't get laid and is mad about the sluts is entertaining. That's why I spend more time on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:35 PM
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It's okay. Date who you like. But it's biphobic. You can't ask everyone else to ignore reality and pretend it's not biphobic. So much of this and bodycount discourse is just people going "nooooo please tell me I'm cool and my preferences say nothing deeper about who I am as a person." You aren't cool, and they do! But you can just date straight guys and chances are no one will ever give you a single ounce of shit about your preference, unless you go online and basically beg people to give you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:38 PM
1

This is called the Dunning-Kruger effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:12 PM
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It's because they're literally stupid and will believe anything as long as it's about women being bad. They won't admit to it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:29 PM
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Interestingly, 3 or 4 of those are authored by one of the authors (Samuel Perry) in the meta-analysis I posted. The meta-analysis is much more recent so it seems he's disavowed a lot of that! A lot of the other studies are pretty well dismissed here: As previously explained, early work in this area focused on perceived problems associated with use (rather than objective measures of problematic pornography use more broadly), often using the Cyber-Pornography Use Inventory (Grubbs et al., 2010) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:33 PM
1

Ooh more pseudoscience! Are you about to claim that it causes ED? It doesn't do that either. Literally not one reputable study has ever found that connection and yet you probably believe it because Reddit says so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:40 PM
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Yes, treatment should revolve around removing shame rather than stopping the habit. You get it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:36 AM
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They don't. They just feel bad about using porn. Or they have partners who don't like it, so they claim "addiction" rather than admitting that they just don't feel like stopping. If you click the link you'll see the only real predictor for "porn addiction" is just thinking porn is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:59 AM
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Because Evangelicals did an amazing job of spreading propaganda about "porn addiction" and now everyone thinks there are terrible potential consequences to watching porn. "Porn addiction" isn't real. Psychologists have been saying this for a while! Big new meta-analysis came out recently and pretty much put the nail in the coffin: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too "Porn addiction" rhetoric is very attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:14 AM
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It's 100% reasonable to throw away a guy who sucks in bed. Why would I want to spend the rest of my life exclusively having terrible sex? If you're bad in bed you simply cannot date me! Half the posts here are guys terrified of being settled for because they're "stable" but sexually dull. Now you're claiming this never happens, and women are evil for not doing it. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:48 PM
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I don't, and I think those women are losers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:34 PM
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We get shamed all the time, pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:42 AM
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No, I absolutely would never be celibate for life. I don't think I've ever been celibate for more than a month or so in my entire adult life. Don't want to, don't have to. The fact that I can maintain a rotation when I'm single is one of the perks of being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:07 PM
1

Why is a "deep" "misanthrope" on the internet looking for validation for a complete stranger? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:29 PM
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Yes, that's true. But if you call yourself a misanthrope, you're not deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:14 PM
2

Yes. Hugely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:14 PM
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Those couples getting married in their early twenties are statistically pretty likely to divorce, just FYI. "I like this aesthetic" doesn't mean "these couples will have lasting and healthy marriages."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:24 PM
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Every single person I've ever met who identified as a "misanthrope" thought they were sooooooo deep and was actually just a miserable piece of shit. Bigger disqualifier than the virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:28 PM
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This fully tracks with my experience. ETA: it's literally so fucking funny that this is getting downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:38 AM
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It’s usually the kind of guy he assumes she wouldn’t have given a chance back then. The stable one. The good one. If merely encountering a single mother makes you write a bunch of weird cuckolding fanfiction in your head, you are simply not a stable person! I promise no one will ever settle for you because you're stable! The brokest men are always the ones worrying about gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:54 PM
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Yeah it's gross as hell. He's just claiming "principles" to be cheap and screw over his servers. Cultural context doesn't matter -- if he's in a tipping culture, he needs to tip. Other forms of generosity don't matter, since none of that money is going to the servers. If you want to be cheap on principle, go shoplift from a corporation. A man who doesn't tip where expected is just a POS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:20 PM
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Some men will sit in a padded room in a mental hospital, muttering to themselves about how "it is very important to avoid damaged women settling for me because I'm so stable."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:07 PM
0

Okay, but why would she even bother wasting her time on you? Surely, even a low-tier gold digger can find a man who makes $70k.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:07 PM
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Having read this whole thing, I don't believe anyone is choosing you for your stability. The most mentally ill men worry about being the "safe choice" like men who make 50k a year worry about gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:56 PM
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I talk to a more people than that on a daily basis, including a lot more men. With all due respect, people who are not social get extremely dunning-kruger'd when talking about social dynamics, and that's exactly what's happening here. I promise you that the vast majority of men do not want a reason for the rejection. It's often something they can't or won't change, and they don't need the baggage about it. And it's not like I speak for all women -- my tastes are somewhat idiosyncratic, and appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:40 PM
2

Look dude, if you're gonna make me put this much time and thought into an interaction I never wanted to be part of in the first place, I better be getting paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:31 PM
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But you only believe it's honesty if it happens to confirm your pre-existing beliefs lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:57 PM
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Nah, and it's not even about safety. The vast majority of men do not want to hear this when they're getting rejected. And unless he's being creepy I personally have no interest in hurting the feelings of a guy who shot his shot! If I give him a vague no and he backs off immediately that's both of us making an uncomfortable social interaction smoother for each other. Good. The guys who do want to hear this have no real interest in self-improvement. They just wanna negotiate endlessly til I give i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:15 PM
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Why would I turn off my phone when I can go on it and have the pleasure of reading about shitty people being sexually frustrated? I don't believe in denying myself for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:38 PM
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As a general rule, cougars don't want the committed exclusive relationship either. The age gap that's exciting for a casual thing is just a PITA in a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:48 PM
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The women I've known who were explicitly not into marriage leaned very lefty, sexually liberal, often polyamorous, and universally childfree. The guys who object to marriage because "it's a bad deal for men" are by and large too prudey to even manage FWB with these women, let alone a longterm relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:45 PM
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My objection to coffee dates was never monetary -- it was because I assumed those guys were boring as shit and we probably weren't compatible. I'd rather go dutch at a dive bar than let some guy buy me a coffee and a pastry at a "coffee date." I also simply was not interested in teetotals at all, and coffee date guys trend that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:36 PM
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Hookup culture is fine. Sewing some wild oats before settling down is good for people, actually. The only people who moan about it are very uptight, or too unattractive to participate. I don't think the rest of us should limit ourselves on their account.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:53 PM
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This is a more thoughtful answer than I expected here, thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:44 PM
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I would argue that this is an extremely normal way to feel about people who post horrible things about you online. If I were actually seriously distressed by it I'd be more invested in changing the culture. I'm not, because these guys are just a small number of niche weirdos who don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:01 PM
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I actually love it when men who hate sluts end up sexually frustrated. It brings me joy. They hate me for doing what they wish they could do and I legitimately think it's funny as shit when they die alone and unfucked. I don't believe any of you can make a compelling argument for why I shouldn't feel this way, but feel free to try!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:45 AM
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My ideal man does indeed act like one of the girls. I too have a very strong preference for a specific gender presentation, it's just a less common one. Conventionally masculine men bore the crap out me. Low-maintenance "one of the guys" girlfriend is not actually masculine, and they would be very upset if she were! She's certainly not supposed to look masculine, and she's only supposed to act masculine in certain very specific, convenient ways. She's very feminine in literally every other aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:58 PM
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Yes, that is exactly my point. They are desirable to their desired demographic, and regularly interact with people in that demographic. So it doesn't actually matter that it's a small demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:37 PM
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Yeah that's because they're non-practicing and don't care. The ones who actually care are an even smaller group and they find each other just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:38 PM
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To be clear, I think the men saying those things are also very dumb. I have no idea if umbrella woman was sincere or not -- but if there's someone out there who sincerely thinks men using umbrellas are unattractive, she probably is the worst. I also don't think women getting the ick from umbrella usage are nearly as common as the men who think it's rude we don't let them fuck children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:14 PM
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If you are (1) appealing to your desired demographic, and (2) in an environment where you meet a lot of people in that demographic, the stats on overall rarity literally do not matter. Jews make up about 2.4% of the US population yet American religious Jews routinely marry each other. I bet you think that's a miracle!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:25 PM
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Men here: ALL men want ultra-feminine submissive virgin teenagers, anyone who says otherwise is lying! That's just human nature and it's wrong to shame men for our preferences! Also men here: literally one weird bitch got "the ick" over a guy who used an umbrella and posted about it online to cause controversy, it's DISGUSTING how women enforce gender roles. And yes, it is the same men. It's not the same women talking shit about gender roles and men who use umbrellas at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:55 PM
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Bro leftists will "hold people accountable" for being mildly annoying, you are clearly not familiar with how those spaces work at all. Grifter was a good guess as to why but I suppose it's possible you just made it all up in your head by your lonesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:16 PM
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If you had literally any idea what you're talking about you'd know how much leftists love in-fighting. You don't. Everything you know about feminism is stuff you were told by grifter's whose entire job is making you mad. It's clear you've never been intellectually curious enough to question that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:04 PM
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I promise you religious groups are not bleeding members because church-going is demonized! They're bleeding members because they provide a deeply unpleasant and occasionally traumatizing experience to children raised in the church, and those kids aren't sticking around as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:43 PM
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"Go to the bar" is good advice for shy, undersocialized guys who just need to make friends and practice talking to people. It won't work if you're actively unpleasant, Mr. Woman Hater. Not even drunks will want to talk to you if you're a jerk!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:19 PM
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The screens play a role but covid and safetyism are bigger culprits. Everyone got isolated and forgot how to socialize, plus the kids grow up so carefully monitored and isolated from potential dangers that they never learned how to socialize in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:13 PM
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I'm a middle millennial. We had social media and dating apps, although the latter were somewhat less widely used. We hung out IRL a lot more and we also drank a lot more. And we had a LOT more sex than zoomers. All the social media and dating apps in the world wouldn't be an issue if the kids would just actually go get drunk with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:52 PM
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Some men embrace red pill because "dominating women is your right and your destiny and the only reason you don't get to do that is because of the evils of feminism" is an incredibly appealing message to young men, especially the ones who are kinda stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:49 PM
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It is Saturday night. Log off, go to a bar, drink drinks and talk to strangers until you figure out what I actually meant by that comment. You may have to do it a few times, but you'll get there eventually!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:16 AM
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I always went to dive bars when I was dating. Ideal first date venue. The nerds here have been psy-opped into hating bars and it's like half the reason none of them can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:54 PM
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Yes, I am actually very certain that women are not confusing unhappiness at their workplace with unhappiness in their relationship. The vast majority of women (and men, and humans in general) are more-or-less functional human beings who are simply not that fucking stupid. It does not take a special male brain to go "hmmm, I feel bad about some aspects of my life but I love my partner."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:57 AM
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I actually think the biggest one is that women are just less willing to stay in unhappy relationships. I saw a study once that said women experience a more emotional distress from being in an unhappy relationships than men do. I can't be bothered to find it rn but that aligns with my experiences/observations. Willingness to stay in an unhappy relationship is not a virtue, in my mind. The paperwork thing is totally real. Anyone who wants to deny that is either out of touch with reality or being d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:17 AM
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If the numbers were reversed they would claim it's proof that women are terrible partners and that's why we're always getting ourselves dumped. And realistically, that would probably be a more accurate analysis. I don't think men being worse partners overall is the entire reason for the disparity, or even the biggest one, but it's definitely a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:30 PM
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The guys who bitch online are not the ones successfully landing younger women. There are a lot more old guys interested in younger girlfriends than young women interested in much older men. Naturally some old guys are gonna end up disappointed. I've known young women who preferred much older men -- they never had any trouble. Same for older women who prefer younger men. There are also hot old guys who can pull younger women pretty easily. The one thing all three categories have in common is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:58 PM
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If you had a couple great years before growing apart is it really a failure? If you're sooooo terrified to fail you'll just end up paralyzed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:33 PM
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Failed relationships only give you trauma, emotional baggage and habits that could interfere when you find the right person This is the kind of self-fulfilling prophecy that prevents you from learning and growing as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:15 PM
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Literally the only genre men read more than women is SFF. I love SFF, I'm not hating, but your average man literally just does not read very much as compared to the average woman. https://www.arts.gov/stories/blog/2025/men-women-split-reading-real-and-persists-amid-historical-rate-declines
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:42 PM
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Cool, go explain to the entire publishing industry that their numbers are wildly wrong. I"m not pretending anything. Plenty of women love Marvel slop, too. if I went by my own circles I'd say both men and women are typically pretty cultured but that's clearly not true!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:36 PM
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Literally, there is not. Male geniuses are more common, so are men on the lower end of the intelligence scale. Men barely read books and do much worse in academics. For every cultured guy there are more who just consume Marvel slop and video games. Idk what kind of women you're hanging around but that seems like a self-selecting crowd! Anyone who can confidently describe the main conversation topics discussed by an entire gender is either lying or living under a rock and getting their informatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:29 PM
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Honestly I think low intelligence is underrated as a reason certain men struggle with dating. That's definitely the best explanation for why this guy thought that calling his date boring would be a pantydropper. I doubt he's out there slaying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:14 PM
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Because his text message reads as, "you're really boring, but I would like to fuck you." I'm not sure whether he's so stupid he doesn't realize he's being rude, or if he's negging on purpose but doing a terrible job at it. It's also weird that he's doing this over text message at all, rather than initiating in person. I don't think it's bad to bring up sex after three dates but that's very obviously not the issue here! Overall just screams terrible social skills. I'm guessing those first three d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:31 PM
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There's a weird seesaw effect where certain men who are very suspicious of women become incredibly gullible with men. It's how you get takes like "these thirty women with similar sexual assault allegations about the same guy are all LIARS." They'll be skeptical if a woman tells them 2 + 2 = 4 but are easy marks for any grifter with a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:05 PM
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If you'd done more drugs you'd understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:38 AM
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1 or 2 but I would cheat on him constantly. I'd pretend to be totally fine with one-sided monogamy and then jerk my jujitsu instructor off on his toothbrush while he was off with his sidepiece. It would probably be fun! If I actually can't cheat (or he makes it too difficult to get away with) then I am straight-up not accepting that deal for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:12 PM
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Getting married young massively raises your odds of divorce. Having some fuck-around years in your youth is good and normal and builds character. The type of men who get mad about it are never the ones worth giving it up for. Personally, I am very glad I spent my early twenties doing drugs with my friends instead of popping out babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:02 PM
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Depends what qualifies as a dating app "working." I am engaged to a man I met on Tinder. He's the first person I've ever seriously dated from an app, despite being a heavy user on and off for many years. He's in the exact same boat. Does years on the apps without a resulting serious relationship qualify as a failure if I had a pretty great time doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:45 AM
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As someone who had a fuckton of casual sex, a lot of it very good, I rarely think of any of them and when I do it's more like a fleeting "oh yeah that was fun and hot" but I don't get super turned on by the memory or start fantasizing about the people. "Alpha widowing" and "porn addiction" are both made-up bullshit to make your partner's loss of interest entirely the fault of their own bad choices. People lose interest for myriad complex reasons, but it's literally never videos on the internet o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:20 PM
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I'd move on. Not exactly sure where my max wait is, maybe five dates if he's really cool. I'm not compatible with someone who wants to wait longer than that. If he turned out to be waiting for marriage I'd be kinda annoyed at him for wasting my time by not revealing that earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:30 PM
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Nope. All my longterm partners started as hookups. I think it seems risky to become emotionally involved with someone before checking compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:44 PM
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I think it seems risky to get emotionally invested in someone before finding out if you're even sexually compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:48 PM
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I know whether I'm attracted to someone pretty quickly. I don't know if they're relationship material til I get to know them better, which includes checking to see how they are in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:45 PM
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I never had higher physical standards for hookups because I didn't consider them a separate category of men. All my longterm partners started as hookups. You seem very confused by this concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:35 PM
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Ghosting is fine and preferable in the early stages. I've been on both sides and I would much rather be ghosted than have a whole breakup conversation with some guy I've been on two dates with. I'd rather ghost than initiate that conversation. It has nothing to do with safety and that's fine. It's treating other people the way I would like to be treated. I'll be honest, I'm a little suspicious of people who are very anti-ghosting. I suspect most of them are actually just upset about rejection, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:45 AM
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The same reason gay people who have been out for a while often won't date people who are very recently out of the closet. Relationships are a skill and dating someone who lacks experience most of your age-peers already have is going to come with a certain level of extra difficulty. There are a lot of reasons people end up as older virgins, and sometimes the reasons no one has dated them so far are actually pretty legit. It's worth mentioning that older female virgins are also considered undesira…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:53 PM
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Where did I imply that women are morally superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:17 PM
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"You very obviously have no idea what you're talking about" is not a baseless ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:08 PM
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No shit! Do you think setting a highly unattainable body as a cultural ideal is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:23 AM
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Look at the Marvel stars of today and tell me they're not on steroids. Compare to Hugh Jackman in the first Wolverine. He was definitely plenty healthy! Steroids aside, orthorexia is actually a pretty fucked thing to deal with. Eating disorders have the highest fatality rate of any mental illness. I don't think it's unreasonable to care about what all this stuff is doing to young men's body image.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:16 AM
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I simply don't believe you have ever spoken to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:11 AM
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It's a common thing and it's usually the awkward nerdy guys who are less socially skilled. Ask the fisherman, not the fish. And lastly: many women do care. People care about different things? duh??? Plenty of men out there who only care about Marvel and video games, and as a group they barely read books.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:51 AM
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Steroids aren't healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:49 AM
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I don't even engage with body positivity content like that but I actually see a lot of posts about those Marvel movie body transformations, with people expressing concern about how they're affecting boys and men. It does seem to be more women expressing concern, even with an issue that affects men specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 10:05 PM
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Then why do we all bitch about men who don't ask us questions? It's a huge turn-off, he just comes off as completely socially unskilled. Millions upon millions of men have cockblocked themselves this way. People love to talk about themselves and men tend to be a bit less self-aware about it so a man who asks questions stands out from the bores while giving her an opportunity to do the thing everyone enjoys. Crazy stories are interesting! Men love them too! You sit around and swap them and build …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:32 PM
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Social skills can be learned. It's easier for some people than others but it's not impossible. Humor is the hardest, but being an interesting conversationalist is actually pretty easy. It basically comes down to (1) be interested in people and ask questions, (2) do or merely absorb a lot of interesting shit so you have stuff to talk about, (3) learn to recognize the signs of discomfort/boredom and pivot to a different topic when you see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:48 PM
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People had more friends and partied a lot more. There were way more opportunities to meet people organically. I don't really believe any of the stuff you mention has much to do with anything. Porn addiction isn't real and no one is getting MeToo'd for a polite approach. Zoomers have no friends and drink way less so they spend most of their time sitting around at home alone. GO TO THE BAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:09 AM
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The hookup is part of the screening process. "Husband material" is someone I'm willing to exclusively have sex with for the rest of my life -- and I can't know that without trying it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:10 PM
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All my serious relationships started as hookups. The boyfriends were good hookups and we clicked outside the bedroom as well. The most common answer is "he gets to enjoy my company", I feel like that's too vague and automatically assumes that every girl is a good company. Why the fuck would I be in a relationship with someone who didn't enjoy my company? And why would he be with me? I'm not saying I'm universally enjoyable, but some people clearly do enjoy my company enormously and those are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:28 PM
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If I can value friends I don't wanna bang does it matter why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:07 PM
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I dated in high school and I wasn't friends first with any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:03 PM
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Most of my closest friends are women. I'm straight. I don't want to fuck them. Does that mean I don't value them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:03 PM
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Did all those high school sweethearts start as friends? Idk what meeting in high school has to do with anything. I wasn't friends first with any of the guys I dated in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:54 PM
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"I don't date my friends" does not equate to friendship being overrated and useless. I care deeply for my friends! It's weird that you think friendship is overrated and useless just because it doesn't lead to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:52 PM
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I was a heavy app user for a long time and met my fiancé on Tinder. If I were more relationship-oriented, I'd have quit years earlier. My fiancé is the first person from the apps I ever dated seriously. The apps were great for building a rotation, not so great for finding love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:29 PM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:40 PM
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You can become friends while dating. There's no need for a platonic probationary period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:40 PM
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I slept with the guys I was attracted to immediately. The friends were (1) guys I was never attracted to, or (2) guys I didn't like fucking. Nothing like a mutually unsatisfying sexual encounter to kill all the sexual tension and allow for a genuinely platonic connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:02 PM
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There's no contradiction. The women who exclusively date friends are a minority and there are plenty without that requirement. A woman telling you to be friends first is giving you bad dating advice, but a woman telling you she personally only dates friends is just stating a fact. You don't have to like it. She doesn't care if you do. It's a hard system to game without running the risk of wasting your own time, but that's a feature, not a bug. Either you have a genuine friend connection (ideal) …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:58 PM
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I pay rent and bills for those things. Now I'm supposed to pay an additional fee, in pussy, for men who had nothing to do with any of that but happen to share a gender with some of the people who built them? But only the ugly ones? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:58 PM
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I'm still dying to know! Where did I imply that women are morally superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:33 AM
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People usually date their looksmatch, so you end up with an even playing field. Think about the women very attractive men usually marry. Do you think those women don't have options? Two people with abundance mentality who choose to be together are making that choice because they actually like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:32 AM
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It doesn't even have to be deliberate manipulation. A woman who is just kinda naturally slutty and commitmentphobic will never struggle to find a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:24 PM
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People respond to manipulation. This exact shit works soooooo well on men. One of the most effective ways to make a man want to wife you is to be slutty and a commitmentphobic. First they get all excited about the hot fun no-expectations sex. Then they realize you're fucking other guys, they get jealous and worried that the sex might go away at any time, and start trying to lock it down. Men who deny this should remember: ask the fisherman, not the fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:50 PM
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"Men are the more logical gender! Women are so emotional! This phrase with a well-established meaning actually means whatever I feel like it does and anyone who disagrees just hates men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:18 PM
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Men will read the phrase "toxic masculinity" and write lengthy essays about how it makes them feel without checking to see if they're right about what it means, and then get mad when they're wildly wrong and women won't validate their fee-fees. Not all men -- just the ones who are too lazy and intellectually incurious to learn anything that isn't fed to them in bite-sized chunks of ragebait by grifters whose entire business model is making them mad. Again: the term was invented by men, specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:44 PM
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I can't teach you basic reading comprehension, I am sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:34 AM
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If you don't understand that the term "toxic masculinity" is not equating masculinity to toxicity then you do not in any way understand the term "toxic masculinity." And like not to break the civility rules or anything but writing a whole post about how the term makes you feel without bothering to check whether it means what you think it does is pretty embarrassing, and you should be embarrassed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:47 AM
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Yes, that's literally the point! "Toxic masculinity" is a set of false beliefs around masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:06 PM
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You don't understand, though. Whether these behaviors even qualify as masculinity is irrelevant. "Toxic masculinity" is the belief that being masculine requires certain specific kinds of toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:48 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" describes a set of beliefs around masculinity, the primary of which is "masculinity is mandatory for all men" and the rest which define masculinity as toxic. "Men don't show affection" and "men must respond to insults by starting a physical fight" etc. It originated in the mythopoetic men's movement of the 90s. "Women enforce toxic masculinity too" is not a gotcha. That's literally part of the definition and even the nastiest man-hating feminist would agree. "Toxic masculinit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:27 PM
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Just once it would be nice if someone bothered to learn what "toxic masculinity" actually means before posting about it. The term was invented by men, for men, specifically for the purpose of discussing male mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:19 PM
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Manosphere anti-bar propaganda is a grifter tactic to keep you single and miserable. It's clearly working! No seriously, the way you people talk about bars makes it clear that 1) you have been heavily lied to about them, and 2) you have never bothered to leave your house and check whether what you "know" about bars is actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:38 PM
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So you're fine with giving her lame sexual experiences as long as no one else has given her better? Do you think that mindset makes you an appealing sexual partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:48 AM
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I always took dates to dive bars. If someone countered with coffee I'd assume he was kinda boring/probably not lifestyle compatible and ghost. The idea that he wanted me to "prove myself" somehow wouldn't have even crossed my mind. I also haaaaaaated extended texting with strangers and would usually jump right to making plans, so I didn't expect a near-stranger to be super invested in me at that point. Would be kinda weird, frankly! Nor did I want to get stuck sitting through an entire dinner wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:44 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data-and-statistics/adult-obesity-prevalence-maps.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:32 PM
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I knew the guy I lost my virginity to was bad in bed. I'd never gone beyond kissing with anyone else. Just because she's inexperienced doesn't mean she won't know you're mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:25 PM
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You very clearly don't read fiction catered to woman and think literally all of it is dark romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:29 PM
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Okay, but if it's really a tiny portion than why do nerds spend so much time obsessing over it? It's always "women love bad boys," not "a relatively small portion of all women love bad boys."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:48 AM
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I knew a girl who had 5 boyfriends at once, all of whom thought they were monogamous with her. Some people are really good manipulators. Doesn't mean men en masse love women who cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:38 AM
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You are either lying or woefully oblivious to how the term is actually used. You really think some huge portion of women are banging pedophilic drug dealers with three baby mammas? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:20 AM
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Drinks and has had casual sex? The baddest of the bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:27 PM
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You are almost certainly correct. Especially if he has tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:25 PM
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"Bad boys" are usually defined as "blue collar, has tattoos, parties sometimes." And many (not all) women do indeed like these men! But they are not "bad" in any real sense. Any "bad boys" discourse you hear from the red pill is just class anxiety. Buncha nerdy, UMC STEMlords mad they have to compete with men they consider beneath them, especially when it comes to casual sex. The reason these "bad boys" tend to do well is because they are very fun and hang out in environments where they meet a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:59 PM
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I know fat sex workers who do pretty well. Not "Kim Kardashian" types -- Kim Kardashian is objectively slim. Actual fat. They usually make less money than the hardbodies, but the fact that they make money at all, let alone enough to support themselves comfortably, seems like proof enough. And no, their rates are not dramatically lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:49 PM
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I love reading PPD and finding out how many of you people simply do not go outside. Getting hit on constantly by unattractive men is just a fact of life for attractive women. It's a regular annoyance, but it doesn't "drag down your status." Wtf, no one thinks that. He will get called a creep if he misses the "soft no" signals that the vast majority of men understand perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:50 PM
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No seriously, please explain! Where did I imply that women are morally superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:09 PM
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That's happened! It was fine. We were sharing an emotional moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:25 PM
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My fiancé has bipolar 2 and one of my more serious exes had very severe depression. Both have cried on me a lot, about a variety of things, and it never put me off. I would consider a lack of emotional intimacy a dealbreaker in a serious relationship. I did dump the ex over his mental health. It wasn't because I had "the ick" about his crying. It was because 1) he tended to lash out when he was feeling bad and get really mean, and 2) there was no reciprocation whatsoever. I was never allowed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:19 PM
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Where did I imply that women are morally superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:20 PM
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But you don't deny that I'm right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:52 AM
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Men here have sympathy for exactly one subset of people who struggle with dating/romance: nerdy guys whose only obstacles are their looks, awkwardness, and (relatively mild) autism. They don't give a shit about men with more severe disabilities, and they definitely don't care about women with those severe disabilities even though a woman in a wheelchair or with a colostomy bag is definitely going to have a rough time. They also don't give a shit about people in very repressive cultures or religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:23 PM
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An attractive woman will get a lot of attention and the men who want her will put more effort into pursuing her, even if she's taken. Do you advise men to date chubby, plain women to lower the risk of cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:15 PM
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The women complaining about pressure to have rough sex and the women who like rough sex are different women. This is not a difficult concept yet many male posters on here seem to struggle with it enormously. The women who enjoy rough sex and "dark romance" fantasies don't actually want to be abused. They want a consensual fun time catered to their specific fantasies with someone who respects their limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:39 PM
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I am pretty sure a lot of the guys who are loud online about hating the sluts would melt in seconds if the right slut gave them any attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:47 PM
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Off the market for a while but I usually had a roster when I was single. I live in a place where that is extremely common and typically assumed, especially in the early stages. Sometimes we discussed it explicitly, sometimes we didn't. Had some longer-running casual things where we pretty routinely discussed our dating lives just like friends do. I had a roster when I started seeing my now-fiancé. He did too. We had an STI scare (false alarm) before becoming official so we actually discussed it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:29 PM
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Yes, women who are indoctrinated from birth to believe they'll burn in hell and be ostracized by their entire community if they don't follow a certain path... tend to follow that path. If it were "female nature" the indoctrination wouldn't be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:21 AM
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when there were no preconceived notions of dating, just fwb, orgasm I don't think this has ever described a single time in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:40 PM
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He has an admitted cuckolding fetish, which is why he watched the videos and asked for so many details. I wonder how much of this just comes from her playing along with his fetish and him taking her dirty talk at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:49 PM
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I do judge straight women who won't date bi men the same way I judge straight men who are hung up on bodycount. Yes, it's your preference and you're entitled to it. I don't want some nice bi guy or promiscuous women to get stuck dealing with your bullshit. But I'm also not going to pretend your preference says nothing about you -- and in both cases, the thing it says is that you're a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:29 PM
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Then why do you think women are any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:34 PM
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Lol they all whine about how horrible it is to "not be the hookup guy" but they also whine when they're only the hookup guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:29 PM
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Do you compare your partners like this? When you're having good sex with your current partner do you constantly think about all the ways in which she's worse than your previous ones? Or do you just enjoy the sex you're having?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:50 PM
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I had a long-running FWB who was a bit below average but I still had a blast. I was getting bigger dick elsewhere the whole time so I didn't miss it. I have lower standards for kink compatibility with casual, too. It's NBD if he doesn't do that one kink I like, because someone else will and I can enjoy sex without it. Very different from a monogamous relationship where him not doing that one kink means I'm never going to experience it, potentially forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:26 PM
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I'm the opposite -- I've had lots of fun with smaller guys but it's probably not a coincidence I've never in my adult life committed to exclusivity with a five-incher. I do fully get the logic though because my fiancé is enormously hung and we have to occasionally schedule genital rest days due to soreness. If you have a high libido that can be inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:20 PM
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I don't. Anti-porn hysteria is stupid across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:04 PM
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Flat-earthers are also "censored." Y'all are just flat-earthers, but for gender, and you're extremely hateful to boot so no one wants to entertain your assholery. That's not censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:37 PM
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It's definitely not a minority, most men aren't nearly that dumb. The percentage of men here who are that dumb is a lot higher than normal, and frankly we should all make fun of them harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:16 PM
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Why do you think it's so important to keep using a colloquial term that is objectively dumb as shit? No one's forcing you to use it and it's not like people won't understand the alternatives. It is misleading in a very specific way, and it's clear that the shut-ins are being mislead by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:11 PM
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That's literally not a harem in any sense of the word. That's just multidating, or having a rotation. Calling it a harem is deliberately misleading dumb edgelord shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:47 PM
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Yes. I've seen men complain bitterly about plus-sized models on clothing sites as though they are being pressured to date fat women. I think they just interpret any fat woman existing in the public eye as pressure to date fat women, which is extremely silly. A certain subset of men will whine all day about women's "ridiculous preferences" but throw a tantrum when a video game character isn't hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:25 PM
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The secret is that you hold out for the person who makes you want to drop the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:10 PM
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"Half at least" is one hell of a moved goalpost! And no, your hooker won't become your girlfriend just because you were good in bed. The one thing I actually do agree with is that multidating is a good way to find a relationship, but that applies across the board. Dating a lot of people means you have more chances to meet someone you have a real connection with, and it's fun enough that you'll hold out for that real connection rather than jumping into a relationship with the first person who see…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:58 PM
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Calling it a "harem" is stupid because it implies the women he's seeing are all exclusive to him or at least would jump at the chance to exclusive. Nah. Men who can't fuck think men who can fuck are literal gods and simply do not understand that women don't see them the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:44 PM
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CALL YOUR FRIENDS. Get off PPD right fucking now and message any single one of those people who told you “omg yes it’s so hard to have a social life.” They are begging for friendship. Make plans. Hang out. Everyone wants to bitch about the loneliness epidemic but no one wants to text their friends or make plans or put effort into new friendships. Be the person who does those things. Your life will be better for it and so will theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:25 AM
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There is no "male loneliness" epidemic. There is a loneliness epidemic across the board. People have less friends than they used to. Women just had more friends to start with. Call your friends! Everyone wants to whine about the loneliness epidemic but no one wants to call their friends or initiate plans or put effort into new friendships. This really is a case of "be the change you want to see in the world" but conveniently it's also a thing where being the change you want to see actively impro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:25 PM
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Yeah, I actively did kinky dating for a while and it wasn't something we said upfront even there. The difference between people who really care about having good sexual experiences and the guys who just desperately want sex for validation is that the former understand that pressure is counterproductive to a good sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:49 PM
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When I was dating I pretty much always had sex with men on first dates if I was at all interested, and was down casual hookup -- but I'd find this fucking offputting. Weird loser shit. Like he's trying to extract a promise of sex from me before I've even met him. He could just be normal and it would probably happen, provided he's represented himself accurately online. I wouldn't find it objectionable if he simply had a policy of ghosting everyone who didn't put out but putting it upfront this wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:39 PM
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Men will overlook glaring flaws in beautiful women. That's not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:12 AM
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we don't have to settle for bars Not really the point, but I'm increasingly convinced that manosphere anti-bar propaganda is straight-up a sabotage tactic to keep men single + bitter. Bars are fun! Lots of people like them! They're also a great place to practice your social skills on a wide variety of people, especially approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:03 PM
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How many times have you had the cops called on you for approaching a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:52 PM
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I met two very serious boyfriends at the bar, two shorter-lived boyfriends through friends, and my fiancé on tinder. Don't write off the bar. It's a good place to practice your social skills and make new friends. There's a lot of weird incel/rp propaganda going around about women who hang out in bars and I'm like 90% certain it's just a psy-op to keep you single and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:24 PM
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If everything I say that doesn't match your POV is either a lie or a self-delusion, what are you even doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:01 AM
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You're still dodging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:59 AM
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You're just regurgitating a bunch of contentless rhetoric and dodging my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:55 AM
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Wow, must be pretty cool to have mind-reading powers! If everything I say that doesn't match your POV is either a lie or a self-delusion, what are you even doing here? What's the point? You could go be smug elsewhere without involving us in your mental masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:49 AM
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So you're hot and good in bed. No shit women like having sex with you. Why do you think that's unfair? Do you prefer having sex with unattractive women who are bad in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:02 PM
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Okay, but that really hot guy has something to offer as a sex partner. If you don't, why should anyone fuck you? Anyway I've slept with a bunch of super hot guys and the "instant orgasm" bs I've seen guys here claim simply isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:52 PM
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It's kind of a running joke that men just talk about themselves on dates and don't ask any questions. I've experienced this. I've also been on dates with guys who were just shy and awkward. I could usually get them talking. I can yank an interesting conversation out of nearly anyone and I really didn't mind using that skill. This is why I don't have much sympathy for guys who claim they have to "carry the conversation" on dates. It's not gendered, and it's also not that hard. Just ask questions …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:43 PM
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I think it's good! I've been in a monogamous relationship for 3+ years and have the sex life of my dreams. We started as a tinder hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:53 PM
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I was always nice about that particular issue as long as they made me cum a bunch. If not... yeah, no second chance. A man who genuinely likes pleasing you will do it even if his dick doesn't cooperate, and you'll have a good time with him even if the dick problems persist, which they often don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:35 PM
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For most women who routinely hook up, the hookup is part of the vetting process. Men who are terrible lays benefit enormously from women who wait to develop an emotional connection. By the time she finds out she's already attached and much likelier to put up with it. If you are someone who heavily prioritizes sexual compatibility and you are someone who can enjoy casual sex, there is literally no reason to hold off. You either: 1) have bad sex and then discard him, 2) have good sex with someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:16 PM
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Would you rather date a woman who thought you were second-best out of three or a woman who thought you were the best out of 100?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:48 PM
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That's definitely true for some of them but laughably incorrect for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:50 PM
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I'm not saying that they succeed at dating younger women, I'm saying that a lot of them would love to date women more than three years younger than them, actively pursue those women, and don't let statistics stop them if/when the opportunity arises. Your statement is about preferences not actions so what people end up doing in the end is irrelevant. But the vast majority of women marry men under 6'2 soooo...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:35 PM
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A lot of men prefer younger women, but large age gap marriages are statistically much more likely to end in divorce. People don't like the things they like because of statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:21 PM
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"Accountability for dead bedrooms" is one of the cringiest phrases I've ever read, thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:59 AM
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I want healthcare. I don't want a dumb system that allows you to punish your wife financially for not fucking you while actively incentivizing people to screw over their exes and I think it's for the best that doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:03 AM
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Bro. You want to create a whole addition to the legal system that's incredibly easily abused by bad actors and require couples to do sex paperwork. That's absurd. Even with no forms, she could claim he was the one turning her down. Or that they just both agreed the forms were lame and didn't keep up with them, which I guarantee would be more common than not. Anyway, she could go to a therapist and spin a whole sad fake story about her abusive relationship and then subpoena her therapist's record…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:16 AM
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You must be fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:12 PM
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That doesn't seem like an equivalent comparison. Humor is subjective. There are a lot of very successful comedians out there I simply don't find very funny. If no one found them funny, they wouldn't be successful. People used to straight-up wax poetic about how Louis Ck was the best and smartest comedian of all time. I never thought he was that great! Not because I got "creep vibes" or anything -- he seemed like a pretty nice guy -- but he just didn't make me laugh that much. A certain subset of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:11 PM
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It's self-deprecating humor. You'd understand it just fine if a man were doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:48 PM
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Most adults don't eat a homecooked meal every single night, even if they're very capable of cooking one. That "girl dinner" is probably cheaper and healthier than takeout.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:11 AM
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Why do you think men are so fucking stupid they can't understand that (1) women make jokes, and (2) that different women want different things? I don't think most men are that stupid. You clearly do. Please explain how you reached that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:22 AM
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Because one of those things is very often possible to prove, and one is nearly impossible. A LOT of things that go wrong in a marriage are incredibly hard to prove. It's also not that hard to create a false paper trail that makes your partner look terrible, and if people are financially incentivized to do so -- they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:04 PM
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The phenomenon of women who repeatedly get into abusive relationships is well-studied, it's a definite phenomenon and it's not just about "being attracted to masculinity" or it would be a lot more common than it is. It's a combination of low self-esteem and no frame of reference for what a healthy relationships looks like, very often due to a traumatic upbringing. But sure, I guess you know better than the people who have actually studied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:08 AM
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I can't know who they're rejecting. These guys aren't any unattractive losers, they usually have at least some kind of desirable quality (although... not always) but most importantly they're the ones who put in the effort to sweep these women off their feet. They're not the guys taking it slow or holding off on commitment. The resulting relationships are usually more intense than normal from the beginning. And when they go bad, they go baddddd.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:39 AM
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Dude, they're not even attractive. If we're sticking to women with a bad pattern, it gets fucking wild. I've watched pretty, charming women date a series of assholes who mostly aren't even hot. There is a mental illness there, for sure. And a bunch of losers on here want to whine about how women only end up in these situations because we're sooooo shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:39 PM
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Lots of nice guys are also exciting. Lots of boring guys aren't nice. And regardless, dating someone you aren't attracted to is a bad idea. The women mentioned in the OP are women with a history of repeatedly dating abusive men. That's definitely a thing -- and it's very striking to witness -- but it's by no means normal. It's usually a result of a very troubled childhood. Plenty of women experience an abusive relationship in their lifetimes without it ever becoming a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:52 PM
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It's mostly men who have never even been on a date imagining things their hypothetical girlfriend might have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:11 AM
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The people in the RJ sub are fucknuts. They need good therapists, not a community of people who support their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:09 AM
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It's not high standards because men don't decide to like pleasing their partners based on how hot they are. Biology, drunk hookups, purity culture disconnecting women from their own bodies, and sneaky lazy men. The women in relationships with men who don't please them often aren't the ones who sleep around -- they're the ones who take the time to get emotionally attached first, which is why they tolerate it. Or sometimes, he did in the beginning and then stopped. People who are terrible in bed b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:31 PM
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You could be describing some insanely skinny dude with abs and little defined arms because that's what you personally find attractive. Kinda yeah, but I really don't think I'm in the minority there. Before Marvel started feeding their stars steroids that was pretty much the standard Hollywood heart throb body. I think men tend to overestimate how bulked women consider ideal, the same way women overestimate how skinny men want them to be. Where would you put Brad Pitt circa Fight Club? Because ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:26 PM
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I live with my fiancé and I know a lot about his diet and his schedule. He's not doing nothing. He's also not going absolutely wild with it. I dated one guy who DID do all that stuff and he was in absolutely ridiculous shape but even he acknowledged that it was mostly fueled by BDD and he would get laid just as much if he eased up a bit -- maybe more, because he felt some women were kinda intimidated by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:15 AM
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It definitely takes work, it just doesn't take the insane amount of work described in the comment I was replying to, at least not for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:35 AM
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I've known multiple men who managed that with consistent workouts a few times a week + not pigging out. Genetics play a large role.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:19 AM
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They really don't need to be super pronounced, most of the battle is just not being fat. Serious glute growth requires all the stuff you mentioned, although you can def get some without it. There is no way to exercise your titties bigger/perkier. The "ideal body" for women includes some T&A, and fat loss will actually work against you there. If genetics gave you pizza slices, you will never be considered "ideal" without surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:24 PM
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Nah, you either have unfortunate genetics or are reaching for a goal that goes well beyond what women would consider conventionally attractive. If you have visible abs and some arm definition, you're good. Anything more you do is gonna hit diminishing returns real fast. I've dated a lot of fit men with bodies most women would consider conventionally attractive, some of them seriously enough that I was well aware of their diet and exercise routines. They worked out and cared about what they ate, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:25 PM
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Most men are sexually active. The ones who aren't ever getting to the bedroom are wildly below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:36 PM
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I've had casual sex with more hot guys than you can shake a stick at and most of them cared about getting me off. Most people want to pleasure their sex partners and consider it part of the thing. Most straight men like pussy on their faces. Being generous in bed does not = good person. It usually just means that he really likes eating pussy, which is a very common trait in men who are attracted to women. But yes, I agree, there's no reason any woman should stick around with a weirdo who doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:19 PM
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My partner has told me he likes that I "wear the pants" in the relationship, and I like it too, but that's more of a sex thing that seeps into our day-to-day life. If we disagree on big decisions, we'll talk it out until we come to a compromise or one of us convinces the other. We are very similar people who think the same way and prioritize the same things, so yes, we do often just magically happen to agree. The idea that egalitarian relationships do not exist is bullshit and one of the more "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:43 PM
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Jealous partners actually get cheated on more, because people feel as though they've already been punished for a crime they never had the pleasure of committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:37 PM
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I don't care and I don't check. I don't do jealous bullshit in relationships. I don't tolerate it, either. I think it's gross and unhealthy. There are two kinds of jealousy, in my mind: the kind that's actually about not cheating and the kind that's just about not doing anything that might create an opportunity to cheat. The latter is controlling. I would dump a man who wanted to police my social media following for strange men and I am not a hypocrite about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:27 PM
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I've had fairly promiscuous men who were accustomed to dating their female counterparts describe feeling a little weird dating women with more conservative sexual histories. One of those guys is now engaged to an ex-porn star so like... he really meant that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:06 AM
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You can't explain the difference because there isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:54 PM
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Tell me how what I said is meaningfully different from what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:39 PM
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Having a private sexuality for yourself and yourself alone is important and healthy. Trying to control your partner's masturbation is controlling. You can find guys who will agree to it, but it doesn't mean the request isn't controlling. You can get people to agree to all kinds of controlling bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:39 PM
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"No one wants to fuck me, therefore the one woman who does want to fuck me has to do everything I want!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:33 PM
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That's shitty behavior. Break up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:31 PM
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You asked a question, you got an answer, and now you're whining because you want to generalize but you don't want to be generalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:44 AM
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Probably because the men who do care are constantly calling the ones who don't losers with no self-esteem, and saying all kinds of nasty things about their beloved wives and girlfriends as well. Tf kind of response did you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:23 PM
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I know that there's been studies that more women describe themselves as paired up, when the men would describe themselves as single ... when they're in a stable situationship together. That's not really what those studies show. They're segregated by age groups but not by sexuality, which means they get heavily skewed by the large number of women at the top of the age range dating men just slightly older than them + larger age gap relationships + lesbians, probably in that order.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:12 PM
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It seems like you have a lot of weird fantasies about couples that like each other and that's not really my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:56 AM
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It seems like you're off on your own nonsensical tangent that has nothing to do with anything I said and I am not particularly interested. Have fun though!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:21 AM
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Yeah duh, you should do things separately. You should also do things together. If you don't enjoy hanging out together you are simply not gonna make it, and that does require a certain amount of shared interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:16 AM
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Most of a relationship is just hanging out, so it's important to select for someone who is a good hang. People who spend a lot of time in party environments tend to meet a lot of people who are open to hooking up. It is literally insane how much people here ignore that. Even on dating apps, the party people will naturally select for each other because that's info you can usually tell from even a pretty bare bones profile. The women who select against that are usually not the women open to hookup…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:58 PM
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If you’re straight up worried she’s baby trapping you then you probably shouldn’t be having sex anyways. Right? Like I get being cautious about birth control, but if you think she's some kind of evil babytrapper why would you be in a relationship with her? She could stick needles in your condoms!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:03 PM
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That's because Daniel Radcliffe is not particularly attractive. Chris Pine, Chase Crawford, Timothée Chalamet, Harry Styles, however...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:43 PM
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Nothing is stopping feminists from changing slogans to something more civilized but they won't "Kill all men" was a thing on tumblr like 10 years ago and was never considered a mainstream feminist slogan. I really don't see the point in arguing about feminism with a man whose entire exposure to feminism is hearing about it second-hand from men who make their money by blaming all your problems on it. It's very clear you've never been intellectually curious enough to engage with that material your…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:22 PM
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That shit absolutely happens in LTRs too, and it's literally more likely. The person statistically most likely to become violent towards a woman is her longterm committed partner. Putting abuse aside someone you love and have given access to your life can hurt you in ways a near-stranger never can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:21 PM
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CLEARLY. They would like him to be enthusiastic, but the lack of interest does not kill the desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:40 AM
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We can find them attractive no matter how they feel about us, look at all the women swooning over celebs they've never met. Or having crushes on guys who are not interested. Or desiring sex with a longterm partner who has lost interest. We can also feel a desire for intimacy without having a specific person in mind. The fantasy typically involves that person being enthusiastic but that's also true of most men who aren't rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:36 AM
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We absolutely experience desire without being desired. Idk why so many men have this idea that women's sexuality is always a response to some particular man. Some of you seem to believe it about our inner lives, too. That is simply not how humans work. It's ridiculous and the only explanation I can think of is some combo of low empathy and low intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:43 AM
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Lol no that is NOT how female sexuality works, what an absolutely silly thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:38 PM
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You are making that very unfounded claim with a lot of confidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:33 AM
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Correct. OP is entirely uninterested in responding to anyone who isn't saying idiot gender wars shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:57 PM
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To be very clear: the majority of men fantasize about being desired. They're not some tiny niche group or even a large minority. My argument here isn't even that you're over-generalizing -- it's that you're generalizing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:41 PM
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Object/body part fetishism is a sex trait. Literally, trans people who take hormones often experience a shift where they lose or gain fetishes depending on which direction they're going. Sexuality is complicated and biology is a messy bitch so that's not going to be exactly true for everyone but it's one of the few places where I feel comfortable saying that there is a notable sex difference that can't be blamed on culture. It's more scenarios vs visuals than self-focused vs partner-focused, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:31 PM
1

It worked out great, honestly. I am happily engaged to a Tinder hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:40 PM
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Nah, as someone who's been on both sides of it ghosting after a few dates is just fine and most people who whine about it don't like the alternative nearly as much as they claim. The real complaint is the rejection itself and you'd whine no matter how it was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:55 PM
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And yet it bugs you soooo much when we don't call you back after sex. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:28 PM
1

Lmao sleeping with someone and not committing to them is "toxic mistreatment" now. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:22 PM
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Second date sex is fine. So is first date sex. You do it too, so you agree with me even if you make a performative big deal of pretending you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:15 PM
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Yes, I'm sure that explanation feels way better on your ego. Being single at 25 means literally jack shit, people that age are constantly breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:02 PM
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My parents gave me the exact same advice but they actually followed it. They've been happily married for nearly 40 years and attribute a lot of their success to the fact that they met as fully-formed individuals who knew what they wanted and had gotten their yayas out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:04 PM
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When I was looking for a relationship I would sleep with guys early on and then ghost if they disappointed me sexually. Why would I want a relationship with someone bad at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:00 PM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:08 AM
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In legal terms, yeah, technically you're probably right. Will anyone mourn your death? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:50 AM
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Do you know anyone who worked at a sex store? Go ask them if this sounds plausible. They'll tell you it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:56 AM
0

Neurotic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:55 AM
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They gave him a brand new one to take home. It was not put back on the shelves after.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:49 PM
6

Every penis is different, what feels great for you does not feel great for everyone. My partner has one he bought during lockdown and describes it as feeling "slightly" better, but he rarely uses it due to the cleanup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:30 PM
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I don't know how "required" it was but yes, if you work at a sex store they usually give you numerous product samples to take home so that you can speak knowledgeably about them with customers. It is generally considered a perk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:03 PM
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I think it's because male sex toys kinda suck? I knew a guy who spent some time as the only male employee of a sex store and had to test them all. He said none of them beat his hand. Men absolutely use toys (and random household objects) for prostate stimulation but fleshlights don't provide a significantly better sensation and the cleanup is a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:56 PM
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I'd say I was typically pretty chill about it -- but when I was in my early twenties you can bet I had an age limit for going dutch. Guys my age or close to it, NBD. Guys who were pushing thirty... I expected them to pay for me and they literally always did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:40 AM
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You're not wrong, but there's a difference between unsolicited advice on things you can change and disgust at a normal bodily function you can neither undo nor entirely control.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:33 PM
2

Rejection is not entitlement, nor is it a sign of unrealistic standards. Your description is so vague I can't even tell if these women actually rejected you or were just rude and weird -- which is exactly why I am not interested in trying to interpret the interaction. Maybe you're soooooo far out of their league they assumed you were just trying to use them for sex. Did you ever think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:50 AM
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I don't trust your summary enough to make a judgement. It seems like one negged you and one did some off-putting woe-is-me isn't-online-dating-embarrassing shit. I've gotten both from men too. I'm not trying to play dating site message interpreter with an unreliable narrator. I'm just saying it's possible that someone you (or even most people) perceive as below you might be disinterested for reasons other than "I deserve someone richer/fitter/more educated."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:24 PM
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I have no idea what if anything you did wrong, I can't see your profile or your messages and I find it pretty unbelievable that two separate women would match you only to respond to you in that specific way. Either someone was playing a prank/doing a catfish experiment, or you're making shit up, or you are heavily editorializing a much more mundane statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:13 PM
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This is where the whole SMV thing falls apart. It's not Dungeons & Dragons stats. Your "stats" do not guarantee you attention from people below you. You don't know why you were rejected but it's almost certainly not because those women thought they could find someone fitter/richer/more educated. They just didn't like you, and they don't have to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:15 PM
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Your mustache probably looks bad and they think they're being helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:02 PM
2

I've never had a man do that to me in my life and I have pretty much exclusively dated metrosexuals. I would expect it more with traditionally masculine men who need their women to be very traditionally feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:10 PM
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I think it's a large minority and I'm unusual only because I take it pretty far, especially for a straight woman. If you look at Hollywood heartthrobs you'll see a whole bunch of pretty boys. Jacob Elordi might be physically very large, but he's a classic pretty boy who gives interviews where he talks about crushing on Legolas as a kid. I also think it's hard to deny that masculine men often dislike feminine men, especially feminine straight men. We can dicker over the reasons but that's definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:59 PM
1

Do you think a man being grossed out by farts is a masculine or feminine trait? I think it's an annoying trait but I wouldn't say it fits under either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:57 PM
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Set your minimum age range younger and sweep up all the cute little cougar-lovers. They're getting filtered out by the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:17 AM
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It's Evangelical propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:10 AM
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Nerves, alcohol, refractory periods, lack of attraction to the partner in question, age, obesity, a whole variety of other physiological issues. I haven't heard anything about ED becoming more common, I think that's probably a hoax.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:20 PM
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Refractory periods are real and some men have longer ones. If your issue is nerves, refraining from ejaculation can make you horny enough to get past it. Also, YouTubers lie about stuff. A shocking amount of anti-porn "science" is sketchy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:12 PM
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The connection between porn and ED is completely unproven but taken as gospel by all of reddit for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:01 PM
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My brief period of being single in my early thirties was the most fun I've ever had dating and the shortest time I've ever spent between relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:50 PM
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My preference for feminine men was unusual among my friends even when I was very young, and it never subsided one bit. I think a lot of men are very invested in believing that women are universally attracted to traditional masculinity but the feminine men I've known have by and large done exceptionally well at getting dates and sex. "Young women only like feminine men because they're sexually unthreatening but really want masculine men" has always sounded to me like a very silly self-delusion fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:02 PM
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I am a leftist exclusively interested in fruity men. Conventional masculinity bores the crap out of me sexually and otherwise. Conventionally masculine men are fundamentally rule-followers, no matter how much noise they make to the contrary. There is nothing subversive about how they express themselves. They live their lives controlled by gender compliance anxiety. It's dull. Being fit is not a masculine trait. Being extroverted is definitely not a masculine trait. I guess it's easy to claim tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:06 PM
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Everyone is a little bit different, you learn different likes and dislikes. It's also good practice for communication because you have to explain what you're into to so many people and find out what they're into too. You can learn plenty in a long-term relationship but it's more going deep on the things you both enjoy than throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Both have their virtues. One big thing I learned is that there is literally no reason to stick around with an ungener…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:59 AM
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Maybe not from you directly. But the more people talk about her and handwring about her, the more people learn her name, get curious, and hit subscribe. I'm totally fine with contributing to that process, because anyone putting themselves through all that deserves to get a bag. Are you happy to contribute to that process?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:27 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:19 PM
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I didn't have a "hoe phase." I had a habit of sleeping around aggressively every time I was single and it's how I met all my long-term partners. I am engaged to a man who was once a Tinder hookup. Most of my friends did the same and most of them are now married/in LTRs with partners they met hooking up, who also slept around a fair amount. People with unrestricted sociosexuality tend to pair off together. I don't hang out with the kind of people who stigmatize high body counts and I don't wanna.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:51 PM
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I don't think she's gross or a victim. I think she's making a fuckton of money by getting all of you to talk about her nonstop. I guess there are specific details about her situation that might change how I feel about her "victimhood" but nothing I've seen so far has done it. I don't think the men are particularly gross either, aside from the ones who apparently ignored her stated boundaries during the event. tl;dr: you're all a bunch of prudes. Mind your business. If you're seeing a lot of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:32 PM
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I was kinda surprised to find myself putting on nails and occasionally makeup during covid lockdown. I would have put on makeup more often if I didn't feel like I was wasting product. I guess it might have been a covid-specific desire to return to normalcy... but it still says something that doing that is what made me feel "normal."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:28 PM
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I know I’m able to take much more abuse than other people, which I see is a good thing. Honestly I was gonna give you a snarky reply but this is just really sad and makes me worry for you! I mean that genuinely, and I am very sorry if it comes off as condescending in any way. You should not have to "take abuse" for the sake of maintaining a relationship, and I am sorry for whatever you've experienced in your life that made you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:11 PM
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Either you are assuming I'm so stupid and uncaring I wouldn't even consider mental health issues in the event of a major personality change, or you are an amazingly easy person to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:49 PM
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A lot of red pill content creators are in it for the money, and one of their major strategies is convincing young men that their odds are absolutely hopeless without the help of some grifter. Most men are not totally romantically unsuccessful, so in order to expand their pool of marks it's important that they get young men to view their previous successes as failures. One way they do this is equate female love/desire with submission. They mythologize it to a wild degree, to the point where a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:31 PM
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From just people I've personally met, I know three cases of this and zero cases of actual paternity fraud. All three dads knew. The kids were ignorant. And of course there are parents who lie about adoption/sperm donation too, although fortunately that's become less and less common. With older people you get cases of mistaken maternity as well, à la Jack Nicholson.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:53 PM
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You are 100% correct, but your fellow redpillers will never listen to you because they are fundamentally opposed to doing anything that makes women feel good. The responses you've gotten to this from redpillers are pretty much exactly what I expected. You seem like you have a decent head on your shoulders. Do you understand that RP content ignores this type of advice precisely because it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:31 AM
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If the red flag applies to him, it's totally illegitimate and superficial. If the red flag does not apply to him, it's perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:15 PM
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A lot of men have made a lot of money convincing you this is true. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:36 AM
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If validation is the only motivation you can imagine you are simply not very horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:15 AM
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I'm sleeping with one of them, very frequently, and have been for the last three years. He's incredibly sweet and nice to me, and I tell him that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:16 AM
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His goal is sex, seems like he'd be fine with being an easy lay. But it's been four dates, so it doesn't seem like she's all that interested in casual sex. As a kinky woman who has pursued vanilla men, doing that was a horrible mistake and I learned my lesson. Maybe she has too. There's nothing "roundabout" about citing compatibility. That is a very straightforward way of saying "I can get the kind of sex I prefer elsewhere, and I'd rather do that."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:20 PM
2

I don't know how you'd find that out early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:18 PM
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Is it so hard to comprehend that some people are attracted to dicks? Do you have any desire to have sex with lots of women? If so, what are your reasons for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:17 PM
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Because variety is fun. Two different guys who are both great in bed will not fuck the same way, but they'll both be a good time. Lots of people enjoy novelty, new people are exciting, I really don't get what about this is confusing to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:37 PM
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I've said those things about loads of guys I've slept with, both casually and otherwise. I didn't sleep with them because they were so nice -- but it would have put me off if they weren't. Even the ones who weren't so nice hid that til after the fact, which was a successful strategy because being nice is not in fact a turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:04 PM
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Right? She checked because she was attracted to him. If he'd given the answer she wanted to hear, she'd probably be having kinky sex with him right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:00 PM
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I do, and I work out at home alone with no one around to see me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:07 AM
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Yes, but it took me a lot of time and a lotttttt of people. I also had the handicap of being kinky. I could have easily stuck with someone less ideal. I'm glad I didn't. If you're less attractive you're better off compromising on looks than on sexual/emotional compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:42 PM
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I cannot describe how much smoother my current relationship has been than my past relationships and I really think a lot of it is because we think the same way and we like to do the same things. We agree on everything from politics to life plans to how we want to spend our weekend. But we're also really hot and exactly each other's type and we have compatible (unusual) kinks. That definitely makes a difference. I think the real lesson is to have an abundance mentality and be pickier on all level…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:33 PM
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Because an entire media ecosystem exists to convince you it's true so you resent women, stay single, and keep listening to dumbfuck podcasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:25 AM
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When a man made a noise or made a woman slightly uncomfortable, perhaps because he was perceived as a creep due to his appearance, the bouncers would quickly throw him out, often with a sneer to assert dominance. Tell me you're a shut-in without telling me you're a shut-in. I spent my twenties going out a lot and getting a lot of attention, some of it unwanted. The two times I ever actually had a bouncer kick someone out it was because they literally groped me nonconsensually after being told to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:40 PM
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A lot of us can understand it, and have even lived it. I've experienced it, and I left over it -- but there was a very intense, long honeymoon period during which we having loads of great sex. If he'd been like that from the beginning we would never have gone on a second date. If the sex had dried up early on the relationship would not have progressed as far as it did. If he'd told me, "I always lose interest in my partners after a few years" I don't think it would have made me feel any better o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:04 PM
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We do though! I've heard more brides complain about their groom's lack of opinions than complain about their groom having "bad" opinions. A man who gets no say in his wedding should not marry that person. It's one of those "minor" issues that demonstrates a total disregard for his feelings in the relationship overall. Just like this bullshit proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:30 PM
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Do you understand that you are supposed to like the woman you propose to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:47 AM
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Lol don't pretend you're not doing the same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:40 AM
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A conversation where he said "no I hate the beach and love streetlights." Sure. Men are so gullible about other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:37 AM
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If we assume that's true: she communicated. Why couldn't he? Why couldn't he tell her that he wasn't too into the whole beach proposal idea? They could have had a conversation about what they both wanted and found a compromise that would make them both happy. I care about making my partner happy. He cares about making me happy. What would be the point if we didn't? Why would either of us stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:16 AM
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Don't play dumb, it's unattractive. This was something very important to her, and neither difficult nor expensive to achieve. He had a very easy way to make his future wife happy and instead totally ignored her wishes regarding one of the most memorable moments of their relationship. It was very obviously a power play. Let's not pretend that doesn't say anything deeper about their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:48 AM
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I don't think it's a bad thing to have strong opinions about how one of the most memorable romantic moments of your life is gonna go. And frankly, my fiancé probably would have loved it if I'd choreographed my own proposal. Like I think I stressed him out by telling him "Idk, I trust you and don't have super strong opinions, I know you'll make it cute." And he did! But he would have been a lot less nervy if I'd given him this type of direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:29 AM
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Your husband did something he knew you would like, because he loves you and cares about making you happy. That's why he's your husband! This guy very intentionally set her up for disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:57 PM
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She communicated. Why couldn't he? There was no compromise here, he intentionally made her think he was doing the thing she wanted and then did what he wanted instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:53 PM
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They also might not exist -- the video is a guy describing what happened to his cousin. Having heard similar tales IRL I don't find the story unbelievable in the slightest, but that very much does not mean it actually happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:45 PM
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I haven't seen those videos but they sound like depressing viewing. It's so weird how some men will pretend that acting like you like the person you apparently want to spend the rest of your life with is a ridiculous demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:41 PM
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This isn't about attentiveness. She very clearly told him what she wanted, they flew to California so she definitely thought she was getting her dream proposal, then he switched up the plan completely and did something he knew would disappoint her. If you think that wasn't entirely deliberate, you are incredibly gullible. He was trying to put her in her place. You know that thing where people deliberately ruin birthdays/holidays so you'll have to remember it every year? He was doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:51 PM
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He would never do that. I would leave if he did. I don't do jealous bullshit and I don't tolerate it either. I am not interested in a relationship where my partner controls me like a child, or trusts me so little he thinks I'll cheat if I use instagram. Sounds lame and frankly dangerous -- the kind of guy who would make this demand is only going to become more controlling the more he successfully isolates me. It's more the principle of the thing. Like I actually really hate clubs/raves because l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:09 PM
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Lots of people have unrealistic standards. It's not really gendered. Some guys want a virgin who fucks them on the first date and works full time while doing all the housework. Interestingly, these same guys are usually the ones bitching about "women's unrealistic standards." On the whole I think men are slightly more likely to consider a standard unreasonable just because it excludes them. Like all the men bitching about women's political standards when shared values are actually a pretty impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:47 PM
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When I was online dating I always found it kinda shocking how many men showed up looking better in person, sometimes dramatically. They did not have the same experience at all -- they told me that women either looked worse or about the same. They're not used to seeing themselves as decorative objects and they don't know how to present themselves that way. I wonder how much male frustration with OLD is just down to crappy photos. So I did semi-regularly take the chance on guys who seemed cool -- …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:16 PM
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I think it's mostly fake -- they're not actually trad, they know it's fetish content, and they don't care because of the paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:52 PM
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I described events in the order they happened, it's not unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:26 PM
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I told my ex "I will leave if you do XYZ." He did XYZ and I dumped him. He was surprised and begged for another chance. It doesn't matter how direct you are if the other person has convinced themself you're bluffing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:15 PM
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There are SAHMs who don't have the loneliness complaint, either. This is not universal to stay-at-home parents, it's just very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:18 PM
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Women who are stuck at home with kids all day often get lonely af and miss adult interaction, which probably has a lot to do with it. People bait and switch, people also change and react poorly to circumstances. That's not gendered and there's not much you can do to avoid it -- but in a lot of situations it's fixable as long as you're both reasonable, empathetic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:04 PM
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People who can't stand their partners doing stuff on their own are bad partners. The trick to avoiding this is to date someone social who likewise wants to go off on her own and do stuff with her own friends. Caveat: if you're the kind of guy who gets all jelly over "girl's night" you will not be able to keep that type of woman around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:29 PM
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I think a lot of those struggling, lonely men have the same attitude towards male friendships that they do towards romantic relationships -- they expect the perfect situation to fall into their lap and they don't want to leave the house or put in effort for it to happen. I think this attitude is unfortunately common among lonely people across gender lines, but lonely men are likelier to focus entirely on their romantic failures while totally ignoring the social life stuff. Someone I follow on tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:26 PM
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Idk I used to straight-up summon men from across the bar just by making eyes at them and it pretty much always worked. Sometimes a man I had not initially noticed approached me and sometimes I was into it. Sometimes I wasn't and I made that obvious, too. The ones who didn't pick up on those "soft no" signals often refused to leave me alone when I directly told them I wasn't interested. Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:58 AM
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If you approach a woman in public and she gives you short answers, looks at her phone, and puts no effort into continuing the conversations that's a pretty clear and unambiguous signal. If she seems happy to engage with you and actively contributes to the conversation, that's also a pretty clear and unambiguous signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:25 AM
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Second lady sounds really unreasonably angry, first lady just sounds frustrated and annoyed. Here is the truth about being a reasonably attractive woman in a place with high population density: you get approached a lot and a lot of those approaches are pretty irritating. If I were routinely approached by unattractive men who were all polite and took a hint, I wouldn't be particularly bothered by it -- and in truth, I'm not bothered much at all by those interactions. Instead I get a much more mix…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:56 PM
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I'm engaged to a man I met on Tinder. I spent a lot of time on Tinder before I met him, but I had a very positive experience overall and other women look at me like I'm insane when I say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:27 PM
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Or they'll do two hookups and then quit because it sucked. Whereas some of us will do it every time we're single or do some kind of nonmonogamy so we don't have to stop even in relationships. High numbers of partners are highly concentrated for both men and women. There are guys out there with low numbers who have had a couple hookups, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:42 PM
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They exist because a relatively small number of women have virtually all the casual sex, and we all hang out together. Also because a larger number of women try it out a few times before deciding it's not for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:09 PM
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Most women don't have casual sex and aren't interested in it at all. Women who do have casual sex will turn you down because that's a crappy approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:54 PM
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Yeah, this is accurate for me. All my longterm partners started as hookups. We hit it off really hard and started dating because we had a lot more in common than just sex. If we didn't, things would have remained casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:30 PM
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You are not going to sway a bunch of men who do not feel mutilated by telling them that they are mutilated. This is why intactivists have a terrible reputation, despite being correct. Absolutely braindead messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:04 PM
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Yeah go ahead and keep saying that... as long as you never want anyone to take your cause seriously. Do you want to yell into the void or do you want results? Personally, I would like results!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:26 PM
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I am anti-circumcision with a strong personal preference for uncut. Comparing circumcision to FGM is stupid. You're gonna get mad at me for saying that, and I don't care. You can't change my mind, I'm pretty sure I can't change yours, and I will not engage with you on the subject. Here's something I will argue though: doing so is an absolutely piss-poor rhetorical strategy if you have any interest in convincing people to adopt your views en masse. It's distracting. It makes you look like an assh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:40 PM
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Idk if someone asked me to justify my choice in parter and accused me of choosing him for predatory reasons I'd probably explain why I did choose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:41 AM
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Get him fit, get him tattooed, probably a little cosmetic facial surgery, new wardrobe that stands out and ideally identifies him as belonging to a specific niche that plays to whatever erotic archetype fits his original features/interests best. Make him go on a million practice dates and practice nights out so he gets extremely comfortable talking to strange women, and also have him get very involved with some sort of local party scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:35 PM
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Lol you have literally no idea how people actually respond to young sex workers. Anyway the main reason people are suspicious is because the older men in those relationships are often predatory. Not always! Not even most of the time! But more often than similarly-aged partners, and you can't really ask people to turn off their pattern recognition abilities just because it suits you. Anyway I find it really interesting that every time this comes up a bunch of guys pop up to say "no it's just beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:29 PM
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I'll be honest, my guess was the opposite -- I suspect these women are on the younger side. A lot of my friends had this issue repeatedly in their early twenties. None of them really struggled with it much after that. I think it's partially because they learned to communicate clearly and walk away when the answers weren't what they hoped but I think a lot of it is that older guys are a lot more interested in relationships than younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:39 AM
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Most men are not sexless and most women have no interest in 4B, even the ones who are aware of it. Not sleeping with or dating conservative/sexist men has been very common for liberal women for a long time. It was never about fomenting social change, though, and I don't think it's very effective for that purpose. Not dating people with repulsive opinions is its own reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:06 PM
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My parents have a great social life, but my mother absolutely runs it for the both of them. If she passed, my dad would be surrounded by friends and he'd have her to thank for it. If they had an acrimonious divorce... she'd walk away with nearly all of them because she is the one who actually puts most of the work into maintaining those connections. I don't think women are naturally just better at this. I personally struggle with it. But boomers especially have a certain expectation that the wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:31 PM
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Okay, so you're back to "paternity fraud bad." I agree! So does everyone else! Who are you arguing with here???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:18 PM
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Okay, so you want us all to agree that the men who choose to remain in the child's life after are losers? Haven't they been through enough already? You want men to abandon innocent children they've closely bonded to just because you think they're unmanly if they don't? Is that even what's best for the non-dad? Is any of this remotely relevant to anything currently happening your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:55 PM
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As far as I can tell your only point is that paternity fraud is bad, and literally no one disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:35 PM
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I will point out that men in these situations often do both -- they leave the mother but stay in the child's life as an active parent. You're acting like it's one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:48 PM
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Millennial leftist, live in a place where not dating socialists would probably be harder than dating them exclusively. I don't need someone to share every exact belief but it's gotta be pretty close. Last time I compromised and dated a left-leaning lib I turned him and by the end he was mad at me for not being leftist enough. New convert energy is real! My fiancé and I are very well-aligned. Similarity of religious beliefs and drinking habits are two big predictors for a marriage lasting, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:15 PM
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I have been a pro-domme for basically my entire adult life, I am into femdom personally and do a lot of heavy kink stuff in my relationship. Sexuality is wildly varied and something the terps get the wrongest is the idea that it is not. I don't want to fall into that trap but it's really hard to speak about this without generalizations. I do know a lot of kinky people so I guess I can generalize a little bit. A lot of generic femdom has a dynamic where the woman is essentially a performer in exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:16 PM
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Lena Dunham went on record in defense of a Girls writer who had been accused of assault, claiming she had "additional information" about the situation. She later admitted to having no such knowledge, and lying because she believed her friend. Source "There are few acts I could ever regret more in this life. I didn't have the 'insider information' I claimed but rather blind faith in a story that kept slipping and changing and revealed itself to mean nothing at all." He was never charged but appar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:06 AM
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It's so fucking weird how many of you guys equate female desire with submission. You can desire and value a woman without wanting to submit to her -- and her making that demand might very well put you off her entirely. Why is it so incomprehensible that a woman might feel similarly? If a man demanded that I stop going out drinking with my friends in order to "be respectful" I'd consider him a loser. No one I've dated has ever made that request, and I'm pretty sure none of them secretly wanted me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:48 PM
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You would be shocked at how often escorts get pressured for "natural" services.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:03 PM
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Then why did you bother to respond to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:52 PM
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Like any subculture, they have their own rules. They tolerate/embrace some weird stuff but categorically reject some shit that would fly just fine elsewhere. For example: a man who merely alludes to any level of dislike for promiscuous women will be mocked as a loser and banned from parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:55 PM
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I don't think it's bad to want a lot of casual sex. I also don't think it's unfair that you must bring something to the table as a casual sex partner to obtain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:54 PM
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The best advice to men who want to have a lot of casual sex is to get involved in some kind of party scene that either leans heavily poly/kinky or is explicitly for poly/kinky people. Thing is, a lot of these guys are too socially inept to learn the rules of those scenes, and too conservative to not be totally disdainful of the people in them. They will not do well in those scenes unless they sort that shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:15 PM
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Escorts are less likely to have STIs (at least in places with legalization/decrim, very possibly elsewhere too but we don't have good data on that) but part of that is frequent testing and good condom use. Hobbyists, who see many escorts and are famous for being pushy about raw services, should probably get tested at least once in a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:34 PM
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They didn't need to be super special. Hot enough, fun enough, seemed like basically nice people as far as I could tell. I was there for a good time, not a boyfriend -- although all my serious partners, including my fiancé, started as hookups. My fiancé is obviously very special to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:13 AM
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What's the point of asking my opinion if you've already decided I'm too stupid to have one? Have you conducted extensive interviews with all my former FWBs? Background checks? If everything I say that doesn't conform to your POV is either a lie or a self-delusion then why are you even bothering here? I like to have relationships with people I find enjoyable and attractive. So do you. So do those "simps" who unsuccessfully tried to date me -- they tried because they considered me enjoyable and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:58 AM
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How respectful or nice are those men? Do they white knight for women? Do they bend over backwards for them or go out of their way to impress them through empathy or their values? I mean that the answer to all those questions was "yes" and a lot of the times it was very genuine!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:20 PM
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I've known lots of men who were very sexually successful with women and they did not get that way by acting like assholes, no matter how much the shut-ins on here love to claim otherwise. The ones who were assholes very intentionally hid that (because acting like an asshole is not in fact a good way to get laid) but most them were perfectly nice guys who also happened to be hot and fun. Mostly pretty upfront about their intentions, too, but smart enough to seek out women open to that kind of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:24 PM
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Alcohol is literally bad for you though. It's poison. It's fun poison and I drink it but I would argue that having some hot sex with strangers is a wayyyy better coping method than getting shitfaced and doesn't give you a depression-inducing hangover.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:39 PM
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As a straight woman in the same boat, yeah, I agree with this 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:37 PM
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"Women are all liars, except this one woman who happens to agree with me and is definitely representative of all women."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:52 PM
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RP completely shattered my confidence and it made me realize how big of a loser I actually was This is how they get you to pay for their masculinity programs. They make you feel like you need their help enough that you spend money on it. Realistically you were probably just an awkward 19 year old trying to date other awkward 19 year olds and you likely would have figured shit out on your own eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:44 PM
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I am a complete degenerate who exclusively hangs out with other degenerates and this sort of shit isn't common for us, either! OP is on another level -- or, much more likely, he's just making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:02 PM
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Second, have you ever had a guy who was overly romantic with you who you made fun of with a partner you were having casual sex with? No, this is just your weird cuck fantasy. Men can feel however they want. I can feel like they're weenies, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:56 PM
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Years back there was a poll on the TER forums and a shocking number of hobbyists (men who see A LOT of escorts) had never been tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:54 PM
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Even when we hate the boyfriend! Idk why everyone thinks this is a thing. Telling her to dump him is one thing, encouraging cheating is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:02 PM
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Great, so now we're broken up and both much happier. Seems like the breakup was a great idea undertaken for correct reasons!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:56 PM
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Why would I stay in a relationship with someone who clearly hates me? Seems like getting far away from that guy would make me a lot happier!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:50 PM
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If I told my partner that I was unhappy and he responded like you did I would leave him in a heartbeat and I'd be 100% correct to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:42 PM
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It's not an "easy instant fix" when you live together, let alone have kids together, and literally no one thinks it is. If your longterm partner went to the trouble of a breakup and a move and you're telling yourself a silly little story about how you were unfairly jettisoned due to her unhappiness with other aspects of her life... no you weren't. Move on. She might miss your support but she doesn't miss you, and you'd be way madder if she stuck around using you while not actually liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:53 PM
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I know very few people of any gender who regret any breakup they initiated and a whole lot who regret not leaving sooner. People really don't like breaking up with their longterm partners. If they pull the trigger, they're almost always happier after the fact. And very often, so are the people they left. This idea that women are en masse leaving nice husbands for dumb reasons and then regretting it is a silly red pill fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:25 PM
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Yeah, but you consider stuff like "I am unhappy" to be foolish. Absolutely wild entitlement to expect a woman to devote her life to you when she's unhappy just because you consider yourself a "good man."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:09 PM
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Red pillers have a massive bugbear about women dumping men for any reason. They literally just hate that women can leave at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:51 PM
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My ex was a bar manager, and part of his job was super-gluing the hand soap shut because the bar had an unknown "rogue masturbator" who would come in on busy nights and jerk off into it otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:41 PM
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Maybe? I imagine some of them would be annoyed by the hypocrisy but I wouldn't know. I confess that the way non-sluts date is kinda opaque to me and everything I hear about it sounds fucking exhausting. They're doing calculus to decide whether to sleep with someone, and "do I wanna?" barely seems to be a factor at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:35 PM
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When I was dating I didn't go on dates unless I thought there was at least a good chance I was into it, and I either slept with them in the first couple dates or stopped seeing them. Sex is important to me. I was never going to invest much time or emotional energy into a man without checking compatibility first. I would guess a lot of women realize that giving it up on the first few dates would disqualify them as "wife material" in a lot of guys minds I need you to understand that not ending up …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:43 PM
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Yeah, same. I wasn't having sex because I thought we were headed towards a relationship, I had sex because I wanted to have sex. Often I knew perfectly well that things weren't going that way and I was fine with it. If I did want more and it didn't work out... at least I had some decent sex with a hot person. Rejecting and being rejected are both normal parts of dating, PPD seems to be full of people who can't handle that simple fact of life and don't understand that other people can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:40 PM
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A lot of guys here have a revenge fantasy about women being strung along for sex and being monogamous to some dude who doesn't give a shit. Usually they know perfectly well that it's casual and have rotations of their own. Everything they say about "Chad" is just their own silly little power fantasies about treating women badly and being pined for anyway. IRL the women having casual sex typically know the score, aren't expecting a relationship/don't even want one, and definitely aren't being mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:08 PM
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More or less. Depression raises it, weirdly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:38 PM
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My parents love each other very much and I still have mental health issues. How much do statistics even matter here? Like obviously the situations are going to be highly variable. Not all unhappy couples have high-conflict co-parenting relationships after they split. Not all unhappy couples who stay together are good at hiding their unhappiness. My friends with the worst commitment issues have parents who fall into the latter camp, FWIW. If something is slightly worse for the kids but makes both…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:23 PM
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It's always been high, I've always had a lot of casual sex when single and a lot of sex in my relationships, all of which started as hookups. My high sex drive has been an issue in past relationships, although not in my current one. My libido has temporarily died twice in my life, both times pretty briefly and related to very significant relationship conflict. Hormonal BC doesn't seem to make any difference at all. In general I think men definitely overestimate how much a specific individual can…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:46 PM
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It's wild how men will say "wow sex work is so easy, women can just have sex with people they aren't attracted to for money" and then full-body cringe at the idea of doing gay stuff. Do you even know how many sex workers are lesbians? A LOT. If they can do it, so can you. Won't suck a little dick to provide for your family? Unmasculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:28 PM
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"Watch what they do, not what they say" is reasonable advice paired with wildly unreasonable interpretations of literally everything women do. There is virtually nothing we can do that doesn't get twisted into some silly story about our terrible secret motivations. "This perfectly normal behavior is actually evil, but only when women do it" is like, the whole basis of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:50 AM
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Why does my age matter? Please don't strain yourself to give me well-wishes -- I have plenty of people in my life who love me and are genuinely happy for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:16 AM
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Do you think it's controversial to say that attractive people are usually treated better in dating situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:41 PM
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35, off the market for 3 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:40 PM
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Do you think heterosexual men are the only ones who have to deal with dating people who have unreasonable expectations, or prefer an arrangement that might be reasonable but isn't for you? Lol. You just gotta sort through them. That's the point of dating around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:38 PM
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Obviously looks and income get taken into account, both hugely affect your life together. Pretending it's super shallow and unfair to care about those things is ridiculous. So is pretending that the other stuff doesn't matter enormously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:04 PM
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If you constantly look for ulterior motives, you'll find them where they don't exist. You've built a framework where a woman who wants to hookup but not date is a golddigger, but the woman who wants to date you is also a golddigger. Tf is she supposed to do if she actually just likes you/your dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:44 PM
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Those women have a bad time with online dating because they seem fixated on getting men to like them instead of figuring out if they even like the guy. THIS. I have a theory that people who are very goal-oriented in their dating have the worst time. The saner ones get frustrated sometimes but mostly manage to keep their heads on straight. The less-hinged get furious that their highly specific ideal situation is not being delivered to them on a platter. Every date that doesn't end exactly correct…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:23 PM
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There's a difference between a fun date where you have a good time with someone who is super nice to you and then go have sex where he gets you off multiple times vs a shitty date where it's clear he resents having to hang out before penetrating you and then does a crap job when you get to the hookup portion of the night. It's the journey as much as the destination. If I were getting a lot of #2 I would have stopped doing hookups and quit OLD. If I were not into hookups, I would have found #1 pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:28 PM
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You don't have to be attractive to find hookups. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that men treat attractive women way better, even if they're only there for something casual. And yes, I do think being white and thin plays a huge part because that's how men define "attractive" regardless of whether I agree with them. Okay, fine, I'm moderately attractive but also white and thin. Therefore men treat me a lot better than women who aren't those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:18 PM
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Most women look at me like I'm completely insane when I say I loved Tinder. Clearly they're not having that experience, or not processing it the same way. I have also heard a lot of stories about dates from hell with guys who were super rude and/or pushy. I haven't had any, as someone who used Tinder heavily for a long time and barely screened my dates. You know what the difference is between me and the women with the hell date stories? Come on, I bet you can guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:11 PM
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Most people are boring, or come off that way because they're bad at presenting themselves. I swiped left on loads of guys for being boring. I made myself look absolutely deranged on Tinder to scare off the boring ones and attract the fun ones. It worked great, tbh. I got a lot of feedback from guys saying they swiped right because I seemed fun and interesting, and I gave that feedback a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:07 PM
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I used dating apps basically the way you described, it rocked, I had lots of fun and got lots of attention. All my relationships started with great hookups, including my fiancé, but even my strictly casual connections were a pretty good time. However: I am also attractive and into casual sex. No shit it rocked? Both those traits were 100% necessary for me to have that experience and find it enjoyable. If I were less attractive men would have treated me much worse (and anyone who wants to argue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:47 PM
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The average 1st marriage is between a 28 year old woman and a 30 year old man. 28 and 29 year olds are much likelier to be in relationship than 20 year olds, and very often with someone over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:24 PM
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If I died to save my partner and he wasted his life grieving and alone to "honor my memory" I'd haunt the shit out of him until he found a girlfriend. I didn't save him to spend the rest of his life lonely. I saved him so he'd live.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:26 AM
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People get so mad at me here every time I say this but it's 100% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:52 PM
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If my ex were targeting me with revenge porn and my boyfriend made it all about his feelings I gotta say I'd find that pretty lame and lose some respect for him. Like, sorry you feel emasculated by me being the victim of a literal sex crime but I am too busy being the victim of a sex crime to give a shit. The overheard conversation is much grosser in that case I'd totally get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:09 PM
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I mean yeah the answer is that I'd be very inclined to believe my child if they claimed to have been sexually assaulted regardless of the child's gender. Rape is a lot more common than false rape accusations, unfortunately. Men are much more likely to be raped than falsely accused of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:46 AM
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Point D is the biggest one. The sluts date each other. They are not trying to lock down inexperienced churchgoers. The people at the polar opposite ends of the spectrum don't interact socially very much, and don't vibe when they do. Promiscuous types are liberal-minded and a lot more likely to have a live-and-let-live attitude than conservatives. It's not that they never bitch about it, it's that bitching about it seems like less of a preoccupation and they tend to have a little more going on in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:41 PM
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Most slut-shaming is just the undesirable barking at the desirable. Men resent promiscuous women for living their dream. Women resent promiscuous women when they think men might find them attractive. The former group is a lot louder on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:13 PM
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It's wild how y'all think beauty is literal magic that fixes every life problem and also makes you evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:05 PM
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Idk who tf Wade Wilson is but Anders Breivik was a politically-motivated mass murderer and his simps are people who share his ideology. Just like incels simping for Elliot Rodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:39 PM
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The most commonly-cited criminal that women find attractive is Jeremy Meeks. He's gorgeous. The serial killers that (a very small number of) women drool over are all the handsome ones. Have you considered that it's not that deep for women either? Those men are attractive because they're pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:40 PM
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Okay but how many women who hook up actually use that phrasing or see it that way? Because I mostly hear it from women who don't hook up explaining why not. Women who participate in hookups mostly know the score, no matter how much you jerk off about the idea that they don't. No one here actually fucks and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:03 PM
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Why do you think being ugly makes someone a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:13 PM
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I think you are vastly overestimating the number of women who frequently complain about being used for sex. A huge number of women never engage in hookup culture at all, and the ones who do by and large do not think of it that way. What is "being used for sex" even? If I wanted to have some sex and didn't expect anything serious to come of it, that's not really "being used." That's just two people having a fun time. This is all just the revenge fantasy of a bitter man who has no idea how casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:42 PM
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Yeah, I feel that. My fiancé and I have talked about finding another couple to play with but it's important to both of us to take it slow, talk it out, and choose a situation that won't jeopardize our relationship in any way. If he were just a hookup, I'd have probably found something by now because the worst possible outcome wouldn't be scary to me in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:30 PM
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Nice! Plenty of couples do engage in group sex together, it's just very understandable when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:13 PM
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Do you know what their boyfriends were like? Was that a justifiable fear? I had a friend once tell me that her ex-BF would request a certain sex act then get mad at her for doing it because it was "too slutty."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:56 AM
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What if having a threesome totally fucked up her last relationship and she doesn't want to do one because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:05 AM
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I loooooove MMFs but I would totally understand why a guy who'd had one before wouldn't want one in a committed relationship, or after a shitty previous experience. It's called having empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:18 AM
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Threesomes are different because having a threesome involves seeing your partner with another person, which is much more emotionally fraught than watching two strangers have sex. A lot of guys who would be open to doing an MMF with some randos would not feel okay DPing their girlfriend with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:13 AM
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In college a friend of mine got stuck looking after his roommate's toy poodle and managed to outsource walks to his frat bros, who all swore that taking the cute little purse dog for a walk was a great way to meet women. Tattoos are attractive. Being in good shape is attractive. Many women like dogs and will interact with you if you have one. None of this seems to have much to do with being "macho."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:32 PM
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When I was in college my roommates were deeply impressed at my ability to summon the man of my choice from across the room merely by making eyes at him. It pretty much always worked! If non-verbal communication were really sooooo opaque to men in general... that would not have been so effective. I don't know why you think it's super common for women to "gleefully berate, insult, mock, and reject well-meaning normal men." Every time I've been extremely rude to a man who approached me it's been be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:26 PM
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Older women who want to be with younger men don't have to talk about it online. They go on tinder, set their age range low, and just do it. Exactly like older men who can pull younger women. The guys who go online and talk about it are the ones who can't pull younger women and want to blame it on society instead of basic supply/demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:45 PM
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I love that you think my choice to date people I find attractive is something that needs to be "justified." Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:17 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:41 PM
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If I tell you that I'm very ugly and no one wants me, will you leave me alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:25 PM
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A number of them initiated more committed relationships with me and one of those recently proposed to me, so yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:07 PM
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I am also physically attractive. So no, I don't feel the need to date anyone average looking. To be fair, I know some very average looking couples that started as hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:54 PM
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Who is freaking out here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:23 PM
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In his own words, one woman said a weird thing and he's now applying that to all women everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:08 PM
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And now you want everyone to validate your self-sabotaging assumption that you made based on one weird ex. Referring to dating as a "tired formality" is actually pretty gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:01 PM
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That's fucking weird. Glad you broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:47 PM
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Literally all my longterm partners started as hookups. The same is true of all my friends who did hookups. None of us had any interest in locking down some uggo we didn't want to bang. You only think this is a super common thing because of insecurity farming. You should try not falling for that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:44 PM
7

So you're saying he was still able to pay for a very extravagant lifestyle. It's not easy to find a woman down for both polyamorous orgies and massive cryptocurrency fraud. He found one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:10 PM
74

You forgot to mention that they were poly, and her other partners were also insanely rich. Mark Zuckerberg met his wife in college, long before he became rich. They probably just love each other and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:37 PM
1

Nah that's still gross. Not the type of relationship I want to be in. Also I know this hypothetical takes place in fantasyland but in the real world the type of person who would do this is absolutely not the type of person who is chilled out and not jealous the rest of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:29 PM
1

I am not okay with being cheated on and that's a pretty wild mischaracterization of what I said! I'm saying that out of two very shitty options, getting cheated on is the better one. The concept of a romantic relationship where you're constantly checking and verifying each other's fidelity is gross as hell to me. As a non-cheater, I would be tremendously insulted if my partner demanded I take some sort of magical cheating test. I wouldn't do that to him, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:48 PM
1

No. I don't care if someone contemplated cheating, that's fucking neurotic. And honestly I'd rather get cheated on than live in relationship prison camp. I don't share my location, I've never snooped on a partner's phone, I don't have a bunch of dumb rules about opposite sex friends or whatever. Nor would I tolerate someone doing that shit to me. Seems like a crappy way to conduct a relationship. If a partner asked me to take the test I'd be annoyed as hell and I'm not a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:15 PM
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I've pretty much exclusively dated effeminate leftist men and most of them were fit as hell. Conventional masculinity bores the shit out of me sexually but I'm not into fats. It's not that hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:44 PM
2

I agree with one and two. I disagree with the third. Being honest about it is a fairly effective way to avoid relationships with those men. The women who lie about it are not the women who agree with your second point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:44 PM
1

Okay but I've literally never heard a woman use "cuck" as an all-purpose insult. Respectfully: you seem to know very little about feminism aside from what you've been told by men who think it's bad and it doesn't seem like you've ever been curious or skeptical enough to investigate further. You might find quite a lot there that speaks to you! And it would be a better use of your time than yelling at women about a problem that feminism didn't cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:35 PM
0

Yeah, that's called patriarchy. Men don't respect submissive men either, despite not even being asked to please them sexually. Women aren't the ones tossing around the term "cuck" as an all-purpose insult. Why are you putting this on women? Women pushed to be let out of our box, with some success. Why can't men do it for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:53 PM
0

I don't think people get to choose their kinks and I don't know what about that comment gave you the idea I believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:41 PM
1

There'a a difference between "respecting" someone and being sexually compatible with them. Anyway I like submissive men and prefer them sexually -- but there's a whole wide range of kinks out there, so it would be silly to describe myself as "compatible" with all or even most submissive men. Do I respect them? Yeah, unless they suck. Do I want to do all their kinks with them? Maybe, maybe not!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:34 PM
9

In that case a breakup is probably best for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:35 PM
12

Well yeah, but you're not in the wrong for breaking up. You're in the wrong for not breaking up before you went and banged someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:13 PM
11

It's shitty behavior but they're not "wrong" to break up. Even shitty people get the freedom to leave relationships they don't want to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:06 PM
3

No. Like it's nice but it doesn't make bad sex into good sex. Bad sex is such a turnoff for me that it kills attraction entirely, even with men who are very beautiful. I will say that I have not found that more attractive men are worse/lazier/less generous in bed, as others are claiming. Someone who just passes the threshold and is great in bed will instantly become more attractive to me. I've become totally obsessed with guys who were originally you'll-dos because of how well they did. They do …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:50 PM
2

Ghosting in the early stages of dating is just fine and as someone who has been on both sides I actually prefer it. What's more, I am skeptical that the anti-ghosting crowd would like the alternative as much as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:48 PM
6

What is "fake" really? I'm sure some of them left under the impression that I am a nicer, chiller person than I actually am because we simply never dealt with a situation where we were in conflict. That is the nature of shallow relationships. Does that mean I was "fake" with them? Anyway some of them became friends and some of them became boyfriends and some of them are in my extended social circle so I actually do know about their lives and as far as I can tell some of those guys actually are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:18 AM
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Is it? Like I've heard women say it before, I won't pretend otherwise. But the people who seem to insist on it the hardest are usually guys who can't get laid and desperately need to pretend that the guys who can get laid are bad people. No one needs to be "using" anyone. You can just have a mutual good time like normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:17 AM
9

Yeah duh? Like a lotttt of them were genuinely nice people but some of them I'm sure were faking. That's why it's weird when people like OP seem to think that women always go for these asshole fuckboy types for casual. We don't. Assholes know it. That's why they act nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:35 AM
25

Same. It makes no sense to me. Why would I make the "relationship guys" wait? How would I know they were even worth dating without fucking them first??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:46 AM
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My longterm partner started as a hookup, as did all my previous longterm partners. There's no appreciable difference between the two "types" except that I liked the boyfriends more on a personal level and the feeling was mutual. If the sex hadn't been good, I would have ghosted. If it hadn't been great I might have kept them around as FWBs but I would not have committed to exclusivity. I definitely had some awesome casual experiences -- but my partner is best fuck of my life and the most sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:52 PM
2

People are highly variable in their ability to read others, and also highly variable in their ability to mask their true nature. We are across-the-board likelier to give attractive people the benefit of the doubt, especially if they're being nice to us. None of this is gendered. The men who do the most damage aren't necessarily the worst men, they're just the ones smart enough to choose their victims wisely, hold off on bad behavior til she's in some way trapped, and use manipulation to keep her…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:06 PM
12

Then why are you talking about it like that? Like you could have talked about how fun it is to feel desired and have fun and explore yourself, and instead you're just hyperfocused on the ways you believe you hurt people (who may not have even cared lol) like that's the fun part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:33 AM
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This is so weird. It's fun to have lots of hot sex with lots of hot people. I don't get what's enjoyable about making those hot people feel bad -- but it seems to be the only part you're actually interested in. Do you even like sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:29 AM
1

She will if she likes sucking dick and thinks you're hot. It's also very clear you don't spend any time around gay people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:01 PM
3

"Woman did fun hot sex stuff with me, therefore she is BELOW me" is the funniest, dumbest way men shoot themselves in the foot when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:27 PM
4

But they don't do it on OLD where you're heavily punished. Only a guy with an abundance of women can message like that. I wad on OKC back when anyone could message anyone and you would not believe the number of overtly sexual messages I got from hideous men wildly over my stated age range. I do not believe these men were drowning in pussy. I think they just decided they had nothing to lose by shooting their shot. On Tinder you actually get more of that by percentage, because a right swipe is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:26 PM
1

There was a kerfuffle on twitter a little while back with some zoomers bitching about how millennial women aren't anti-age gap enough because we're "brainwashed by sex positivity" and "bitter that young women aren't repeating our mistakes." Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:59 PM
1

I've always maintained that it's a good move to post shirtless pics if you're fit. It certainly worked on me! I've also watched my friends swipe left on guys because of their shirtless pictures. Like even if they initially thought he was cute they'd get to the shirtless pic and immediately go "oh ew never mind." Different women like different things. Idk why this is so hard for posters in this sub to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:49 PM
3

Yeah it's like when someone complains that their ex dumped them in a "cruel" way and 99% of the time the dumping was done just fine and the person is just upset about being dumped. Rejection sucks. There's no way to handle it in a way that pleases everyone, and some people will get mad no matter how you handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:39 PM
3

In a lot of cases, the vague let-down is a kindness. She's letting him save face by sparing him a more direct rejection. You might not personally prefer this, but a lot of men do, and the interaction is a lot more comfortable for both parties if everyone picks up on the signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:02 PM
2

Probably only the thin ones, so an even smaller percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:41 PM
3

I suspect men are less inclined to want to stay at home, for the exact same reasons that many women who have the option still choose to work. It's boring and under-stimulating, unless the income disparity is very large (which it usually isn't) you're going to have to make some pretty significant lifestyle changes, and the non-working partner is taking a major risk. If you really really really like spending all your time with your kids, that tradeoff might be worthwhile. If you don't, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:20 PM
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Yes, this. Me and my boyfriend both did it and didn't even hide it. It was fine. We're adults. We were both fresh off bad breakups and still in fuck-around mode when we met. I'm really pro-multidating, I think it's nice to get to know someone without the pressures of exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:00 PM
4

Lol those numbers are very silly and made-up. Anyway I literally never cared because I was doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:49 PM
1

How do you handle it when it happens? That's the part you gotta get right. I've dated lots of guys with minor dick problems where this was a thing, but they handled it correctly so I didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:34 PM
3

That's not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:35 PM
10

Sure would! Nothing wrong with that. But I would not pursue them for a relationship, nor would I be interested if they pursued me. Wouldn't fuck or marry the unattractive person, because I have no interest in sex with unattractive people and a good sex life is important to me in a relationship. Nothing wrong with that, either. If I had to choose I'd stay single. I don't have to choose, though -- I like having sex with my boyfriend and we are very aligned on what we want for our lives. It rocks. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:38 AM
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I don't assume that at all. I'm just telling you that you probably don't want to marry someone just because they're attractive. I hooked up with guys I thought were attractive and tolerable personality-wise but I didn't want anything more from most of them. It's not "settling" to marry someone who isn't the most attractive person you've ever been with. It's settling to marry someone you don't even like because some of their qualities are good. Here's a question you might actually deign to answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:03 AM
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Think of the person you hate the most in the world and imagine their personality in the body of the most attractive person you've ever seen. Do you want to marry them? Imagine spending the rest of your life in a relationship with a very hot person you find incredibly irritating, and isn't even nice to you. Does that sound totally awesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:39 AM
0

"Women are all absolute monsters and anyone who disagrees is displaying obvious pro-woman bias! I am very smart!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:31 PM
1

Well yes, people typically post to reddit when their problems have already gotten out of hand and a lot of those guys are just using their mental health as an excuse in a way that is a lot more obvious to outsiders than it is to someone who loves them. Also a lot of redditors are straight-up ableist and won't give an ounce of slack to a person who legit deserves it. AITA has specific sexist double standards on certain issues, not all of which are pro-woman in the slightest, and I've never seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:43 AM
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Go on r/relationships and you'll find plenty of posts along the lines of "my husband is absolutely awful to me but it's just because of his depression/autism/ADHD." Men can and do use mental health as an excuse for bad behavior, just like women. And sometimes -- again, just like with women -- the mental health issue is actually legitimate and it becomes more an issue of what you're willing to tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:35 PM
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Yes? I've never looked through a partner's phone in my life, even when I had good reason to and I would consider it a BIG FUCKING DEAL if a partner looked through mine or even asked to do so. Potentially breakup-worthy, definitely breakup-worthy if it happened more than once. Excessive jealousy is gross as hell and straight people are way too accepting of it. You should 100% dump people over this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:23 PM
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Another day, another dude who thinks "manipulation works" is some massive revelation. Yes, it does, that's why people do it. Shoplifting saves you money. Committing credit card fraud is often very profitable! I do actually think it's fine/extremely minor in the grand scheme of things to lie about your sexual history though. It's no one's business. I don't have a double standard about that. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:51 PM
2

I didn't have a "hoe phase." I had a habit of pursuing casual sex every time I was single, and all my serious boyfriends started as hookups. I never had to beg any of them for commitment. They pushed for it themselves. If I didn't find them attractive we never would have slept together, and if they weren't fun in bed I would not have continued seeing them. Most women don't bother with casual sex, or they try it out a few times and don't like it. They're not pining over one-night stands from year…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:37 PM
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Drop an "I have a boyfriend" into a not-yet-explicitly flirtatious conversation with an irritating man and you will immediately find out why I didn't do that. Anyway he left me alone pretty fast (which was my actual goal) so if I wanted attention I was bad at getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:13 PM
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lmao you're telling on yourself there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:34 PM
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Some men are fuckable and some are not. Now you get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:21 PM
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I mean if someone specifically asks "how do you feel about women who are super into makeup?" and you say "turnoff" literally no one is going to have that reaction. If you walk around complaining that women who are into those things are shallow and disgusting, you will get that reaction and what's more, you'll deserve it. I don't talk shit about men who like video games. I don't feel the need to come up with some bs explanation for why video games and the people who play them are bad. I don't wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:02 AM
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Hookers aren't. Again, he could see one literally multiple times a week for that much. It would essentially be the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:57 AM
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Taxidermy is cool as hell. Video games are not. Again, I am not pretending this is rational. Also, taxidermy is expensive so someone who makes it as a hobby is very definitely bringing something to my life. Specifically, more taxidermy. I don't have enough yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:53 AM
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Or Seeking is just full of scammers and dead profiles from women who decided to take a quick look-see. I've had my photos stolen on there a bunch of times and they are not cooperative when I've asked them to remove the profiles. It behooves them to look like they have a lot more women active on there than they really do. For 5k/month he could easily see multiple escorts a week + probably convert one into a sugar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:50 PM
3

Depends a lot on what he expected in return, and also if he came off as a scammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:35 PM
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I saw that chart, it was fake, there was no source cited and every percentage was a multiple of 5. But yeah video gaming is unattractive to me personally on a level I won't pretend is rational. I simply do not like it. Plenty of women are gamers themselves, plenty of non-gamer women won't mind as long as you manage your time reasonably well -- but I am not one of them. The chart also listed taxidermy and birdwatching as "unattractive" hobbies but I'd be more into a guy who did either of those th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:21 PM
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Yeah, me too, I spent lots of time in those spaces both online and in person because I am a sex worker. They'll call their clients ugly all the time -- because they are -- but at the end of the day a generous uggo > a lowballer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:14 PM
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Lol no they don't. OP is neither fat nor ancient, which puts him a head above most of the guys on those sites. My guess is that he was lowballing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:53 PM
2

The overwhelming majority of men read soft rejection correctly and non-creeps prefer it to explicit rejection. Men who don't know how to read soft rejection should learn. I'm doing him a favor!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:35 AM
3

Any idiot can recognize soft rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:05 AM
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Once I was at a bar by myself and some guy was trying to talk to me. He was annoying and I wasn't interested -- also I was there because I was dating the bartender. So I gave him short answers and went on my phone to ignore him. Overheard him telling his friend that what I was doing was "a shit test." Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:29 PM
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"Dark triad bad boy" lmaooooo. Just dress cool and be down to party. There's nothing "dark triad" about that whatsoever unless you're some pearl-clutching square who thinks having tattoos and getting drunk in a bar once in a while is the height of degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:26 PM
12

Right? The idea of having sex with someone whose attitude towards the whole thing is "fine, I guess" is just so unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:39 PM
9

I don't think you know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:26 PM
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If she genuinely felt neutral about the idea she'd almost certainly go for it. If she's saying no, it's because she doesn't want to. The scenario you're suggesting here isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:23 PM
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Because nothing will absolutely murder your attraction towards someone like having sex with them when you don't wanna. If you start to think of sex with your partner as another shitty chore, you won't want to do it ever. Want your wife to look at the dick that used to excite her with complete disdain? Pester her for duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:19 PM
5

That's not what the term "nice guy" (derogatory) means at all. It very specifically refers to a man who believes he is deserving of sex/romantic attention because he is a "nice guy" even though he takes rejection poorly, ranting at the object of his affection about how women always choose douchebags and she should give him sex instead because he's so "nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:12 PM
1

What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:40 PM
3

You are really wildly underestimating how pervy some men get about older women. I like being Mommy in bed. They like it too. And you're clearly absolutely furious about that, which is very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:53 PM
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They were all sexy af, especially the one I ended up with. It's also silly to act like "women over thirty" does not include women in their early thirties. Why are you mad I didn't have a bad time? That's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:34 PM
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My brief period of being single in my early thirties was the most fun I've ever had dating and the shortest time I've ever spent between serious relationships. The guys I met were well-behaved and generally more commitment-oriented than I was -- I was planning to fuck around and stay single for at least six months. I made it four. Really more like three. I'm conventionally attractive and live in a place where people don't settle down young so those are probably factors in my experience. But it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:15 PM
2

Yeah same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:18 PM
3

Most people who cite the environment as an excuse are less worried about their personal carbon footprint and more worried about bringing children into a world that is undergoing a climate crisis. I also think most of these people just don't want kids period and wouldn't let the climate stop them if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:11 PM
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It's not like individual choice matters that much in the grand scheme of things. I live in a city with good public transportation and don't drive. Climate apocalypse is coming regardless. The emphasis on personal choices to save the environment is literally a psy-op by the companies that do most of the polluting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:10 PM
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Have you considered that there are many reasons women don't want to have children besides sex with hot strangers? Like do you literally believe that's the only possible reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:51 PM
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Yeah dude, it's totally "virtue signaling" to not tell your weird angry coworker every single reason you are disinterested in motherhood. These women are coworkers. Realistically, you do not know if they have deep-seated trauma or physical/mental health issues. You're just assuming they don't because you clearly hate their guts and desperately want to believe they're a bunch of selfish lying sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:47 PM
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Why do you feel entitled to detailed reasoning behind the reproductive choices of people you aren't dating? Lots of people give kinda BS answers to "why don't you want kids?" because they don't want more questions or because the real reasons are deeply personal/likely to offend parents. Your coworkers do not want to discuss their sex lives with you -- if their sex lives are even the real or biggest reason. It's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:02 PM
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Having sex with hotties in bathrooms is way more fun than changing diapers, spending all your time bored out of your mind watching a kid, and having your sex life go to shit because you're touched out and your husband doesn't like your post-partum body. I'd choose the former over the latter in a heartbeat. I'm in a long-term monogamous relationship and we don't plan to have kids but we do plan to party and travel and sleep in and have loud sex at odd hours. Also way better than diapers! Idk why …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:52 PM
1

It's not first date conversation, but it's gonna come up at some point before I'm willing to commit to monogamy. And it literally always has without me really trying. Most people aren't so cagey about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:49 AM
1

To be clear, no relationship history is the bigger dealbreaker for me when it comes to actually dating. I'm at a point in my life where I never want to be someone's first girlfriend, no matter how much sex he's had. If you take issue with that particular phrasing, fine, I can rephrase. Relationships are a skill that takes practice. My parents modeled a very loving and healthy relationship for me and there were still plenty of things about coexisting with another person that I had to learn by exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:38 AM
1

Probably not. I don't want to teach someone sex or relationships. Plus it's just really unrelatable to me, in a way that seems like it could cause problems. I do have a bit of a religious fetish though, so if it were due to religious belief I might find the idea of corrupting him pretty hot. But he'd have to be cute and I still wouldn't date him. If he managed to hook up with me without disclosing I wouldn't be mad about it. If the sex were good I might even keep doing it -- but I would not date…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:06 PM
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I think a lot of them are 24 y/o virgins who desperately need to believe that they're "average" and that the odds are totally stacked against average guys like them. But then they refer to dating someone for a while before sex as "doing the monkey dance for quite a long time" as if it's the most degrading thing in the world and like... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:19 PM
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You can accept that it means different things to different people. For a lot of women "marriage material" means "guy who is so great I want to build a life with him and only have sex with him forever." You can argue about how it comes off to you personally but in terms of what the women saying it actually mean it is genuinely a compliment, not at all a dig at your attractiveness. If you want to be a whiny bitch you can run around with your fingers in your ears screaming about how it actually mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:06 PM
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"Chad has no incentive to care about female pleasure." The incentive is that a woman cums all over his face! He thinks that's hot and fun! Most people who are attracted to women agree! These guys are just LLs LARPing as HLs to impress their buddies and they think everyone else is the same. No. ETA: If you're a straight man downvoting it's extra funny -- you're just upset that "Chad" is usually a better lay than you. But it's not just Chad! It's literally most other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:53 PM
3

I used to put my clothes back on and end the encounter if they didn't eat. And ghost if they did it with insufficient dedication. I never had to do either that often, though. Most straight guys like pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:24 PM
1

What men really want out of sex isn’t so much physical pleasure as it is validation and social status. This isn't most men. This is only a small group of men, and they're completely fucking useless. LLs LARPing as HLs to impress other LLs LARPing as HLs. The real fuckers recognize them as lesser beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:18 PM
6

I've also had bad sex with beautiful men and great sex with men I was initially mid on. It may surprise you to know that I can tell when guys are eating my pussy and giving me orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:03 PM
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You're gonna get a million responses from guys claiming that "Chad doesn't care and women sleep with him anyway" but none of them have ever had sex with a single beautiful man. I've had sex with loads of beautiful men, and most of them put in effort. Most people in general like to see their sexual partners have a good time. But yeah the truth is that there are definitely some men who would get laid way more in their relationships if they were better lays. And women would probably be more open to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:48 PM
2

Men who treat other men terribly usually treat everyone terribly. There are definitely men who treat men well and women terribly and I suspect they're a lot more common than the reverse. If you treat everyone terribly until they "earn" your respect, you're literally just a shitty person. It really is less "treat women like men" and more "don't treat women like aliens." Because some men absolutely treat women like aliens! Listening to terps describe "female psychology" is a lot like listening to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:05 PM
1

Most people who commit sexual misconduct get away with it. Women commit it less, so the number who face consequences is naturally small.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:46 PM
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"Character strives for thing and then realizes they want something else" is a popular plotline because it allows for both dramatic tension and character growth. One non-romantic version of this trope is the movie Blockers in which three parents spend most of the movie doing hijinks to prevent their daughters from having sex on prom night only to realize that their kids are becoming adults and need to be allowed to make their own choices. I think sometimes y'all analyze media while totally forget…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:45 PM
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I was the hot girl dressed to the nines at the bar in a big city. We didn't call cops on guys asking us out either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:31 PM
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Every time I've been actively rude to a man who approached me it was preceded by a soft no and an explicit no. I've been rude to a lot of men because a lot of men don't respect a "no" they don't want to hear. You know what? Those guys are creeps and they 100% deserve all the shaming and rudeness I can muster. Anyway I've been rude to loads of men and I've involved the bartender/bouncer a handful of times but only when that didn't work. I've never called the cops on anyone. I've never seen anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:03 PM
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Historically, they have. Normal dudes by and large don't give a shit. They just like that I'm horny all the time. I'm ring shopping with my partner. We have a very healthy, loving relationship. We've both slept around and the only way it really affects us is that we can relate to each other's dating experiences. Lmao at "dozens" being scandalous, how fucking sheltered are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:31 AM
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Porn addiction isn't real. You just like jerking to porn, which is fine. Masturbation is normal and healthy. She did not get into a relationship with you in order to cater to you sexually with no regard for her own desires or comfort levels. She was hoping for someone who wants about the same things she does on about the same frequency. If that's not you, move on. If I found myself dating a man who was extremely boring in bed, I would simply dump him. That's what you do when you realize the pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:21 PM
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Or you could just be normal about it? Why would you stay with someone you feel the need the "punish" when you could just move on? Or have your fun and maintain boundaries as needed. It's not a "punishment" that you simply don't have the type of relationship where you act as emotional support or do sex stuff you're not personally into. My biggest tip for women in this situation is to date and sleep with lots of other men and make sure he knows. After all, it's just casual, so he shouldn't care! I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:38 PM
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I have a high sex drive, I've had a bunch of sex with a bunch of really hot dudes. It mostly rocked. I'm hot, too. Why would I have sex with uggos? I don't date them, either. My boyfriend is hot, we had sex on our first date and our sex life is still tremendously active three years in. Unattractive men simply do not get to have sex with me. They don't get to take me out on dates or be my boyfriend or marry me either. I would not date someone I did want to bang. Sex is too important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:11 PM
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Men in their late twenties/thirties tend to be a lot more interested in committed relationships than men in their early twenties/teens. It makes sense that commitment-oriented women are likelier to end up in serious relationships with men who are a few years older. Regardless of what age range she dates, guys at the upper end of that age range are more interested in getting serious. Doesn't even need to be a big age gap. A 26 year old who starts dating a 29 year old, moves in a year later + gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:40 PM
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I always did dive bars. Coffee just seemed really boring and unsexy. Dinner felt like too much of a time commitment for a first date. Never gave a shit about "creative" dates early on. Most women don't expect expensive dinner on a first date. If every woman you talk to has that expectation that's on you. My guess is that (a) you're dating women who are younger and a lot more attractive than you, and you're pulling them by presenting yourself as wealthy or (b) you're dating very traditional women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:46 PM
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But the why is always in the back of the mind of the one who is rejected, like an obsession. Over-generalization. No one likes rejection but many of us are capable of being normal about it. I also doubt that most of these people actually want feedback so they can improve -- they want a reason so they can complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:59 PM
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How am I trying to punish men's sexual outlet? I said "pornsick" is also bullshit, which it is. Porn addiction isn't real, and social media isn't the reason why women won't fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:11 PM
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Two things can both be bullshit. Pornsick almost always means "has a kink I'm not into" and occasionally "is sexually coercive" neither of which can actually be blamed on porn. "Social-media has over-exposed women to choice!" literally always just means "I'm unfuckable and need something to blame for it."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:05 PM
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Multidating actually rocks and filtering for people who can be adults about it is a feature, not a bug. Anyone who wants exclusivity but refuses to communicate about it is a stupid baby who shouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:12 PM
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Did he put in the effort? Then it's no one's fault. Sometimes it's just not happening, I'll tell him that, and we'll continue til he gets there. If I drank too much then I'll even say it's on me. If he didn't even try/gave up early then it's his fault and I'll be grouchy about it. It doesn't take me long to have an orgasm or figure out that it's not happening, there's no excuse for laziness. And by "trying" I mean oral sex, to be clear. I just don't have sex with guys who don't go down. There's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:09 PM
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5 for sure. I also like alcohol and drugs. Someone who can enjoy those things in a moderate way that doesn't ruin his life/finances is a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:19 PM
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I was attracted to him immediately and we had a bunch of sex about it but he was firmly fuckbuddy-zoned for the first month and change. I was not looking for a relationship at the time, which was part of it. But also my first impression was that he was lots of fun but we were likely not a good match for anything longterm. He was my favorite guy in my rotation from pretty much the beginning though. He initiated the more frequent hangouts and romantic stuff, I got to know him better, and I realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:06 AM
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Most abusers are manipulators so they easily slip past all radars. They slip past some radars. For every victim of an abuser there are usually plenty of other women who caught a bad vibe and bounced before things got serious. And the abuser usually learns something from that experience, which makes him more effective. Often what he learns is victim selection. People from dysfunctional families are much likelier to end up in abusive relationships because their radar doesn't work the same way. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:07 PM
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Not even just to bang again? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:54 AM
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People with unrestricted sociosexuality tend to pair off together. I can say this because I slept around loads and so did most of my friends and now we're pretty much all paired off in serious relationships with guys we met hooking up. People with unrestricted sociosexuality date by fucking around until something clicks. Sometimes that's one-sided, often it's not and that's how couples happen. Idk why you think all the sluts are pining after church boys and all the men who are capable of having …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:57 PM
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I've seen plastic surgery for men that looks great, idk what you're talking about. Sounds like an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:52 AM
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You being horrified by the bare faces of women you're dating is not the rebuttal you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:51 AM
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Men can work out and get plastic surgery too. And let's not act like men are super into butterfaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:35 PM
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You think this isn't true for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:26 PM
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I watch porn maybe once every couple months and I'd still choose it over a partner who tried to control my masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:44 PM
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Weight loss is extremely well-studied and one thing that's very firmly proven is that shaming doesn't help. So you're not helping your friend, you're just being a dick and then smugly patting yourself on the back for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:42 PM
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Classic PPD is gendering stuff that isn't gendered and then acting like it's evil but only when women do it. I had one friend who dumped her long-term boyfriend shortly after I dumped mine. Her relationship was very troubled for a long time and even prior to my breakup I suspected that she was unhappy. I have no idea if I had any effect on her decision at all, but I wouldn't be surprised if seeing me wildly happier post-breakup gave her a little push. And that was definitely for the best, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:34 PM
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One of the biggest indications that porn addiction is bullshit is the absolute fanaticism of believers, who are not remotely interested in hearing anything that calls their beliefs into doubt -- or merely suggests a different approach to treatment might be more effective -- even when the source is highly reputable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:00 PM
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Why would I? He enjoys it. I don't need him to stop doing something he enjoys just to prove a point to an internet stranger. I wouldn't forgo masturbation for 2 months just to prove I wasn't "addicted" and I'd break up with someone who made the request. Wouldn't go vegan for two months either, guess I'm addicted to animal products. Wouldn't stop working out or watching TV or reading books for two months, must be addicted to all those things as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:28 AM
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Porn addiction is questionably real at best. A lot of the "facts" people take as gospel truth are literally just Evangelical propaganda. Most people who use porn in an unhealthy way have major underlying mental health issues and should be seeing a therapist rather than trying to treat it as an addiction. NoFap is pure fucking evil that makes everything worse. Source: 1 2 Paying performers directly via fansites and clips stores is the most ethical way to consume porn. Everyone I've dated has watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:23 PM
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Nope. Extremely kinky polyamorous NB.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:51 AM
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This person does not date cishet men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:25 AM
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I know people who exclusively date friends. Some of them will date relatively new friends, one specifies years of friendship first. I am not like this. I have never dated a friend and I do think it's bad advice if you're hoping for something more. The thing about a "friends first" approach to dating is that it's very hard to game and that's a feature, not a bug. You can't fake your way into it if you're not willing to risk wasting your own time. So you either like them enough to take the risk, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:06 AM
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Yeah, it's fine, I don't even think about it. I'm very capable of having orgasms via other means, and I do. A man who just wants to stick it in and not do anything else is a turn-off. Like even if I could cum from that it still sounds kinda boring and lame. Notably, I have friends who orgasm easily from PIV and they say the same. Loads of men will never experience prostate orgasms even if they get fucked in the ass a lot and most of them don't stress about it too much. They can cum just fine fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:24 PM
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Because it's not actually that miserable for most of them. You and your friends are outliers. You've told yourself a fairytale about how every man experiences your exact problems, because that allows you to pretend you're "average." But you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:02 PM
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He can have casual sex, he just catches feelings. That is very much a thing. Not everyone is cut out for it, and being male is no guarantee that you'll actually enjoy the reality, or be capable of separating emotions from sex. I've known guys who could get casual sex but not a relationship. For some of them it was a phase. They were cute and fun but emotionally messy in a way that was obvious. It's not that there are no women out there who would give it a try regardless, it's that they never wen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:10 PM
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So you're saying that men stress over their partner's past when they see their commitment as doing her a favor. Few things are more unappealing than choosing a life partner who sees our partnership as a sacrifice on his part alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:51 PM
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Which part? RP seems to think that women lack any internal sexuality that is not a response to a specific man and wildly overestimate the extent to which looks make up for bad sex. All of that is bullshit. Is it "RP" to say that having sex with someone you find physically repulsive isn't fun? Lmao. Who claimed otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:00 PM
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Nah, this is something guys love to tell themselves but it's not true. If she's smitten she's likelier to put up with you being a bad lay but she's not gonna fool herself that you're a good one. Bad sex with a hot person is always insanely disappointing. "Good" sex with someone I find repulsive is still worse. But actual great sex with someone I'm medium on is always going to make me wayyyy more into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:10 PM
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I knew my first ever sexual partner was a bad lay and I'd never gone farther than kissing with anyone else. Some stuff is hot and feels nice, some isn't. It's not like the frame of reference doesn't matter but it matters less than people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:48 PM
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lmaooooooo these men are so fucking ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:10 PM
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They all have this stilly little alpha male power fantasy about "high value men" having "harems" of multiple women who are exclusive to him. Of course it doesn't work like that in real life. Women who are open to casual sex typically maintain rotations of their own, and the women who move in those circles have access to plenty of "high value men" they can date instead/in addition. So a very high value man -- one none of them can reasonably hope to equal -- not living out their power fantasy reve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:37 PM
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He liked her. He was having fun with her. But he wanted to keep things casual and non-exclusive. When he realized that he couldn't keep doing that without losing her eventually, he committed. Everything I know about this situation comes from reading this thread, but it seems like people who are confused about it (1) don't understand the concept of liking people, and (2) assume that star quarterbacks share all their precise sexual hangups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:30 PM
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If you can't get dates in person and you can't get dates online can you really blame that on the apps? If you can get what you want but it takes a little trial and error and you go on some dud dates or take a while to get matches -- is that not the apps working? ETA: downvotes proving my point. If lazy undesirable idiots can't get relationships from apps, that sounds like the apps working just fine! Getting into a relationship with a lazy undesirable idiot seems like a worse outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:30 PM
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You can't demand a yes/no answer and then get salty about a lack of nuance. The apps are fun and work great. People who whine about them are just bad at them and/or have unrealistic expectations. I can't operate my KitchenAid by singing at it -- but my KitchenAid works just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:25 PM
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Yes. I unironically love the apps. I thought they were fun as hell. I met my boyfriend on Tinder and he had basically the same feeling about them. I guess it's kinda notable that we both spent a lot of time on the apps, went on loads of dates, and had plenty of hookups but are each other's first serious relationship from the apps. I just don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The people who have the worst time on the apps tend to be very goal-oriented. Usually it's women who want marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:10 PM
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Because these guys would have dating lives if they were involved in party scenes, and they wouldn't come here to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:36 PM
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Is it better to fuck around with multiple hotties than be with someone who does nothing for you? Yeah, sure. All the talk about "sharing a high value man" makes it sound like these women don't have rotations of their own. They usually do! High numbers of sexual partners are highly concentrated in both partners. Most casual sex is between two people who know the score. "Chad" doesn't have a harem of women who are faithful to him. He has multiple fuckbuddies who mostly have their own "harems" of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:41 PM
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I've had loads of great casual sex, and I really don't think of any of them like that? Those memories lost their erotic power within the week, they're still pleasant but they don't create the kind of arousal that would cause me to think about them with any regularity. This was true even when I was single, and it was true when I was in a relationship with a terrible sex life. Honestly, the only time I really think about them is when I see posts making claims like yours. This feels like projection…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:33 PM
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He can be very precisely my type. I have a specific set of traits I really really like and have gone for men who were not conventionally attractive but had those traits. It's a mixed bag of physical, personality, fashion choices + sexual kinks but if you hit enough of them you have to be absolutely hideous for me not to find you at least kinda hot. When I describe the specific list to other women they often look at me like I have three heads so... maybe Fun_Breakfast697-maxxing is not a reliable…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:39 PM
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Cheating is perfectly respectful according to this guy, so I have absolutely no clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:42 PM
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Attraction is kinda irrational and the thing you guys always forget is that reverse icks also happen. One time I was on a date and not feeling it. I decided to leave once I finished my drink. Before that could happen he told me that he used to be a Catholic missionary, although he had since become an atheist. I finished my drink and we went back to his place, where I made him recite the Hail Mary during sex. Is it rational that his past fervent Catholicism completely changed how I felt about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:48 PM
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Idk why the guys here deny that there's truth to it. I've heard guys openly admit to it! Some of them were actually very firm that it wasn't a slut-shaming thing, they had no issue with promiscuous women whatsoever and didn't mind dating them, just that sex too soon made them lose interest and they couldn't help it. Regardless of the reason, I never cared for this. Sleeping with them early on was a filter. I was filtering out the bad lays, but I was also filtering out the Madonna-whore complexes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:24 PM
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I was on the receiving end of this from a boyfriend. I don't think the initial (pretty long!) period of us having a great sex life was him faking it. I guess he could have faked it really well but I don't think so. I think it was literally just the Coolidge effect kicking in. And frankly I think that's also a lot of what's happening in these relationships. When we broke up and were still kinda on good terms I told him, "hey, I don't think you should seriously date high-libido women anymore, at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:15 PM
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Yes, that's how we know the numbers are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:14 AM
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Straight women and men have the same average bodycount. High bodycounts are highly concentrated in small groups for both. Sexlessness levels are likewise about the same. They might feel very differently about those things but at the end of the day the numbers are pretty even.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:02 PM
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Yeah. I said PUAs only cared about getting laid, and that might be wrong because I do think there was some underlying desire for connection there. A lot of them found that those skills were actually very helpful when it came to making friends and improving their social lives. So they fucked around a bunch, had lots of friends, and eventually settled down with women they actually liked -- a good and normal life trajectory! Red pillers just wanna impress their friends by dominating women. They're …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:37 PM
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Yeah, I've always said that red pillers are just dumber PUAs. Another difference is that PUAs pretty much only cared about getting laid -- hence their willingness to be cringey -- whereas redpillers care more about male validation than they do about pussy. You can really see this in their attitudes towards sexually successful men who do not fit the red pill mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:30 PM
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Yes, definitely. Sometimes I was bored and wanted excitement or sad and wanted distraction but there are plenty of other exciting, distracting things I could have done instead. It's not validating though, men will literally fuck a McChicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:27 AM
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I wouldn't say any dick but I've gone for you'll-do's because I was horny. No one here has any concept about how casual sex actually works. You're all jerking off about Dark Triad Chad tricking relationship-oriented women into casual sex. It's usually just two horny people who know the score and consider each other acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:48 PM
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Because they're morons who think saying "n-count" instead of bodycount makes them sound like clever scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:03 PM
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It's a very stupid term for bodycount and I refuse to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:46 PM
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Y'all love to tell yourselves this just so you can blame women for being treated poorly. It happens but definitely not most of the time. The worst I've ever been treated was by a guy with literally 0 red flags who looked great on paper, was friendly with a couple of his exes, and had a "good guy" rep with his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:18 AM
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Is it a "cudgel" or is it just good advice that you don't feel like taking? If your personality is the problem, the logical next step is to fix your personality. That process typically does require a certain amount of self-care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:19 PM
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No, it definitely applies to beautiful women. When attractive women struggle with dating pretty much everyone assumes they're doing something wrong -- often including the women themselves. I had a period of time when I was struggling with dating and I looked great. I 100% knew it was a me-problem. I was a mess, and not hiding it well. Most of the people in my life knew exactly what was up. No one was blaming the men for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:16 PM
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The argument was that manipulative men get laid the most. I pointed out that manipulative people often get the things they want, because manipulation works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:50 AM
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No it doesn't. I know perfectly well that if I want someone buying my dinner I am better off targeting less attractive men, and that they are likelier to pay up because I'm hot and they don't get much attention from attractive women. Attractive people get away with stuff, it's not shocking nor is it really gendered. If anything, men are likelier to think with their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:46 PM
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Lol you really think your dicks are soooooo special.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:19 PM
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I think it can be all those things. Not always, but often. Having a poly phase is great for you if you've ever experienced jitters around longterm monogamy. You either discover a relationship style that works better for you or you lay those jitters to rest for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:18 PM
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Nah, I think it's fine and fun to fuck around a bunch and there are ways to do it ethically. I will note though -- if you encounter a manipulative, awful man you're much better off having a one-night stand than you are getting into a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:04 PM
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I have too much faith in my ability to fake it to blame him for believing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:06 PM
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I always find it fascinating how this supposed "HVM" who has women throwing themselves at him constantly always has the exact same set of insecurities and resentments against women as some loser who writes reddit screeds about how "dating is so hard for average guys like me."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:17 PM
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Yes, manipulation works. That's why people do it. If I wanted a nice dinner I could go on Tinder and fake interest in some rich uggo. My actions would very likely be rewarded. Then I could go online and post something along the lines of "lol men complain about foodie calls but they still pay for dinner with women who pretend to be interested, clearly they LOVE manipulative women" and then you'd all get super mad at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:13 PM
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The other things you mention are all things that allow young people to support themselves financially. Most age gap relationships are not sugar baby relationships. So yeah people are probably more risk-adverse when the consequence of not doing the thing is "doesn't date some old person" vs "unable to support self/in a much worse financial position either now or in the future." I don't necessarily think it's good that we allow people to enlist in the military or take on massive student loans at 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:41 PM
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Idk why you seem to think that babysitting is what makes spinsters happy. Lots of childless single women do babysit for friends and family regularly, that's not a phenomenon that has evaporated. For many of them it's just a chore they do to help out their loved ones but I'm sure at least some find it fun and fulfilling. I doubt that even those spend a lot of time sitting around and thinking about how they'd love to provide more free childcare. It's also weird that you think the only two activiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:24 AM
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The kids are over-supervised and under-socialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:22 PM
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Great, so now I end up in a serious relationship with one instead of just fucking him a couple times and going my merry way without ever meeting his bad side. That seems much worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:40 PM
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It's a really wild way to frame being valued solely for your appearance as some kind of privilege. Pretty women do a lot of things to maintain that, some women will never be pretty no matter what they do, and we all get old eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:22 PM
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You're horny and he'll do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:38 PM
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Reading threads on here about stuff you're actually knowledgeable on is incredibly painful. I have a different subject that comes up here often and I just don't click on those threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:37 PM
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And who do these "top 1%" date? Women who "think" they're tens?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:21 PM
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omg this is such a roundabout way to jerk off about men, gay porn is RIGHT THERE
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:14 PM
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So what? I can find someone else for that. Probably already did! The hypocrisy is unattractive, anyway. It's so weird the way you guys jack yourselves off over "high value men" who are constantly dating loads of beautiful young women but you literally never consider that these men are not scarce to beautiful young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:55 PM
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you seem fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:45 AM
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It makes things more difficult, not impossible. A lot of people who think they're lonely because they're sober are actually lonely because they're annoying little shits about it. There are plenty of cool sober people who don't have the same problem and struggle much less as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:37 AM
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You are acting. Making your target chase you a little is a time-honored seduction strategy. If he's convinced that you'll continue to be exclusively sexual with him while not expecting exclusivity yourself he has no reason to change that. If you have great sex and a fun time and then you mention the other guy you're seeing it lets him know that your continued presence in his life and all that great sex is not something to be taken for granted. If he drops you for seeing other men while he's seei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:27 AM
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Blackpillers are all crabs in buckets and will sabotage each other for 0 profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:34 AM
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I am fully convinced that the whole "seek out someone as inexperienced as yourself" thing is deliberately bad faith advice. "Eliminate women your own age with normal sexual histories from your dating pool" is exactly what I'd tell a late bloomer if I wanted him to die a virgin and that's exactly why they're saying it. If you find a normal girlfriend and catch up with your peers you won't be listening to redpill/blackpill podcasts and it'll be harder to sell you shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:30 PM
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Which part do you find unnecessarily mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:45 PM
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No they aren't. Men with lots of options are used to women hounding them for commitment so the one who doesn't care stands out. A lot of pick-up tactics work amazingly well on men -- a lot of strippers read PUA books and swear by them! It's adorable when men think they're immune to it just because they're men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:06 PM
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sexy slutty but only slutty for him. This is where you fail. It works better if you make it extremely clear that he's just one guy in your rotation. NEVER give exclusivity without commitment. Make it clear that you have options too, and that he is at risk of being dropped if you meet someone special or things get more serious with one of the other men you're seeing. If he wants you, he has to act. Make him take all the steps towards a non-casual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:56 PM
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I mean yeah it's fine to not like those things, but you are 100% handicapping yourself if you don't, and 200% handicapping yourself with the disdain for people who enjoy normal young person things. Loads of women are only occasional partiers -- but they won't give up that occasional night out for you. Why would they? Most other guys will be just fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:46 PM
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Drinking, partying, drug experimentation, posting thirst traps, going to clubs, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:02 AM
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A lot of these late bloomers are just massive squares who don't like doing normal young people stuff and have disdain for their peers who enjoy those things. The first makes it hard for them to meet potential dates while also making them incompatible with a lot of the similarly-aged women they meet, the second makes them fucking insufferable in a way that puts off even fairly compatible women. They do better in their thirties because women in their thirties are less into doing young person thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:35 PM
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Wildly overblown phenomenon. You only think this is a common thing because of insecurity farming. Women who are open to casual sex mostly date guys they meet hooking up -- in general, they'll sleep with you early on so they can jettison you quickly if you're a bad lay. You're dividing these men into "good men" and "bad men." It's more like "compatible men" and "incompatible men." Some people are fun in small doses but would never work for a longterm relationship. Do you have a friend you like bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:54 PM
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Just give her a bunch of orgasms and it magically becomes way less of a problem. I've dated several men who took that approach, both casually and seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:52 PM
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It's not rocket science, like 90% of the thing is just generosity and communication and someone who can get those right is gonna be just fine even if he's a little awkward at first. An ungenerous partner is unfixable, so no second chances there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:10 PM
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Men with dick problems are often above-average lays and that mitigates a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:41 AM
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Young people use dating apps to meet other young people. Bears rarely attack unprovoked and are pretty easy to scare off by yelling and waving your arms around. From a purely safety perspective, men should choose the bear as well. If the question were "alone in a swamp with a man or a hippo" I'd choose the man, because hippos are actually vicious. No one should be allowed to get married before 25, though. I stand by that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:42 AM
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Most guys I know of actively, genuinely try to please their partners because if they don't they know you wont stick around and they'll be seen as less of a man. Most guys want to please their partners for sexual reasons. They're not putting in the effort because it's the practical or ethical thing to do, they're doing it because they like doing it. That's normal. Why is this confusing? Do you just not like sex very much? Anyway I am not remotely shy about sexual communication so -- according to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:19 AM
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Hot and pleasant enough but kinda dull to talk to for more than an hour or so. Do you have friends you like but not enough to hang out with multiple times a week? Then you get it. I've slept with lots of men I had 0 interest in a relationship with. They weren't "taboo" or "regrettable." They were just incompatible for anything serious but fine enough for something fun and temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:31 PM
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Okay, let me be clear, the main thing I am talking about here is eating pussy. Not so much physical performance. I've dated a bunch of guys with minor dick problems because they tend to be above-average lays. But yeah a guy who doesn't actually enjoy getting me off is a total turn-off. A bored starfish who asks "are you done yet?" would probably be a turn-off to you. That's normal. A man who can't take the "pressure" to have a mutually enjoyable sexual encounter is far more sexually inadequate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:28 PM
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It's so weird that you think this is "pretending to be a man." Like a guy can be hot and fun but if he wants kids, doesn't live where I live, plans to move away, does too many drugs, is too sober, too boring, too into dogs, vegan, whatever... we are not going to work out as anything serious. Why force it? Why not just have a little fun together?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:35 AM
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I think most people have a bit of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:31 AM
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You're doing it together, you both want to enjoy it. What's silly about that? Are you incapable of enjoying yourself if your partner is having too good a time or what? Longterm your partner's appearance will change but it won't affect their sexual abilities and you'll have a much easier time staying attracted if the sex stays awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:11 AM
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Yeah. Honestly the sexual skillset can really shift it. I've had bad sex with hot people and stopped finding them attractive immediately. I've also hooked up with a "you'll do" who blew my mind and I was way more into him after.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:15 AM
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They're different women. I don't see how this is a difficult or confusing concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:54 PM
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If you are bold enough express "I am mad you didn't become exclusive when I decided I wanted to be exclusive but didn't say anything about it" then you are bold enough to head the whole problem off by expressing "I would like to be exclusive."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:14 AM
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I promise, they know it too! You don't need sex or makeup to know that you are attractive!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:51 AM
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Hot women know they're hot. Guess you only like uggos then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:32 AM
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I mean, I wouldn't have approached someone who wasn't hot. Hot people get away with some shit and I should know because I've been getting away with shit my entire life. You'd probably break several personal rules if you thought you had the chance to bang someone who looks like me. That's human nature. You'd be surprised though at how much an offputting personality can kill attraction. I don't mean "bad person" before you come at me for moralizing, I mean offputting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:39 AM
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Some people are really hell-bent on misunderstanding what it is that puberty blockers actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:29 AM
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Red pillers are literally just dumber PUAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:22 AM
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Nah, I love feminine energy in men and the guys I've dated have not had anywhere NEAR this kind of difficulty. Feminine men are usually pretty good at connecting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:20 AM
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I've made the first move on guys only to back off very quickly once we started talking. Reasons varied, can't say what's going on with Jake here but men can and do fumble even with strong initial interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:17 AM
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Yeah, and that sucks, but they still don't get to whine when other people fail to read their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:11 AM
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This is advice I'd give to a struggling young man if I wanted him to make a complete fool of himself and die a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:12 PM
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Nope. I'm a hardliner about this one. I will never understand the point of playing a stupid little game where you both have to guess the right time to begin exclusivity and then have an argument later on because your guesses didn't align. Use your words like an adult. Me and my boyfriend both slept with other people when we were dating but not official. It's fine. We're adults. When we wanted to be exclusive we had a conversation about it. Sidenote but I also think "exclusive but not official" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:47 PM
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I was never a club person but plenty of my friends liked going out to enjoy dancing, music, and getting drunk with their friends. Getting laid may or may not have been on the table but wasn't usually the primary goal. There are definitely people who go to clubs with getting laid as their primary goal, but if they didn't enjoy that environment they'd go to a bar instead where it's way easier to actually talk to people. I don't enjoy clubs -- I went to bars when I was trying to get laid. I like ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:07 PM
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Every time I've been actually rude while rejecting a guy it was preceded by a soft no and a direct no. Idk if that even counts as an "embarrassing rejection" because wtf did they expect at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:16 PM
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At least some of it, and every HL woman would tell you the same. I think a lot of these claims come from desperate young men who are at peak horniness and getting no action. They cannot imagine turning down sex and they assume all men are the same. I kinda get it, my sex drive felt wildly out of control when I was in a sexually unsatisfying LTR. And a lot of it comes from men feeling culturally pressured to perform hypersexuality. Admitting to low desire or lack of interest in casual sex feels e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:31 PM
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Lol no, it's literally zoomers doing extreme age gap discourse on TikTok. As a millennial who does not exactly consider myself "unreservedly pro-age gap" every time I've found myself defending age gap relationships I've been arguing with some teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:33 AM
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Where was this club? How frequently are you in places where clubs get shot up on a regular basis? The post specifically cited the dangers of "horny drunk guys" who are common in clubs everywhere -- shootings are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:36 PM
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If it's genuine, then it's probably very stupid and that's also a problem. But most of the time it is not remotely genuine, and you'd be a bit naive to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:32 PM
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The messaging women get on "personal safety" is fucking insane. It's basically "arrange your entire life around avoiding stranger rape, the least common type of rape, because if something happens to you it's your fault for not being more careful." There are major costs to this approach, and even women who are fairly paranoid about safety do end up deciding that certain risks are worthwhile. No shit, the fun stuff is more worthwhile. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico (NOT at resorts) without enc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:58 PM
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What if just spent most of his dating years in one or more serious LTRs? Does he still count as inexperienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:43 AM
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“We can’t help it you’re unfuckable” I mean it's not exactly nice but if no one wants to fuck you that's pretty much the definition of "unfuckable." What are women supposed to do about that? “life’s not fair and most men find companionship” This is also literally just true. It might not be what you want to hear but that doesn't make it any less true. Most men end up married at some point, including some real uggos, so this should actually be comforting to you. Like if you're going to go on about…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:30 AM
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I explicitly said I've never lied about it. I said that lying about it would be super easy, which is true. Learn to read! You're nasty about the sluts because you hope they'll be nasty back and then you'll have someone to argue with. I guess you got some free argument out of me but I'm done now. Try Sext Panther!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:18 AM
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It was his analogy, not mine! And I'd argue that "sore loser" behavior is basically just "entitlement to winning."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:44 PM
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I didn't want to date them when I was a literal virgin, either! I grew up in a liberal household, sex-positivity was an important value to me by the time I started dating at 17. I wouldn't have dated a political conservative or a religious guy either, regardless of his sexual values. It seems very emotionally important to you that I feel bad about my sexual history. Why? I'm not lying about it, I'm not trying to fool anyone into dating me despite it, I'm not single so none of you nerds even run …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:26 PM
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I mean, I by and large have not been fucking them. If I have then they kept their mouths shut and ate me out and probably bought my drinks as well, I can live with that. Hookers get paid lots of money for the same service. They did all that for free because I am desirable and they knew they were replaceable. And FWIW not ending up in a serious relationship with any of them doesn't count as a consequence, since I odds are I didn't want one from them and definitely wouldn't have wanted one if I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:42 PM
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Okay, but the thing is that if you get super frustrated about losing a board game and whine about it a bunch, your friends are going to label you a sore loser and won't want to play board games with you again. You can feel frustrated all you like, but that doesn't mean people don't get to judge you if you express it in a shitty unpleasant way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:29 PM
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Lol yes. Mine is high as hell, I've experienced very few consequences for that and they were all so minor I have to think hard to remember them at all. I've never lied about it -- but I could, very easily, if I wanted to. I don't want to because one of the best things about having sex with a whole lot of people is the guys who won't date you because of it. It's not remotely hard to find the ones who dgaf and being able to filter for them is a feature, not a bug. ETA: I find the downvotes interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:22 PM
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I've used the men's room many times when the women's line was longer and I've never seen any penises. They're always facing the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:33 PM
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The difference is that the sluts dgaf about men rejecting them over bodycount. They're gonna marry a guy they met hooking up and he's never going to care. The guys who get rejected over height never fucking shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:46 PM
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You can try it. A lot of older women won't be into it, but some of them will. The same cautions about age gap relationships apply, and you're less likely to get a girlfriend than you are to get laid because older women who enjoy younger men are a lot less likely to pursue relationships with them. This might be exactly what you want, and it's also probably for the best because age gap flings are a lot less fraught than full-blown committed relationships. Anyway there's no reason you can't simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:47 PM
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I've experienced the same. No discussion, and if we talked about kink at all I told them I lean domme. I've had guys literally ask if I have trauma because of how much I hate it. I hate it on a visceral level but also because I actually know the risks. I have been a professional dominatrix for a very long time. I can safely nail a dick to a board and ensure that there's no lasting damage. I can't mitigate the risks of choking to anywhere near the same extent. Especially since a lot of the potent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:36 PM
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She's recently divorced following a 12 year relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:48 PM
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Nah, most single men know dating is fine. Some struggle is normal and expected, because the thing you're trying to accomplish is actually fairly difficult. Most single men aren't on the internet complaining about how women ruined dating, because most single men are not actually that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:43 PM
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She's recently divorced and was with her ex-husband for 12 years total. The last time that woman was single she was 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:02 PM
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Dating is not "a horrific mess." Most people are fine. Y'all are just bad at it and have insane expectations about how easy it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:56 PM
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The manosphere describes men in an intensely unflattering way but insists it's "male nature" and it's their right to behave that way and women should cater to it. So women saying, "nah, that's not male nature and I don't have to tolerate it because plenty of men aren't like that and if I can't find one I'll just be alone forever" is "man-hating" in their eyes. If I believed what the manosphere says about men I would literally never have an unpaid interaction with a man ever again. According to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:43 PM
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Me and my ex were both total slobs when we lived separately, very similar levels of messiness. We wanted to do a little better when we moved in together so we discussed an appropriate division of labor and came to an agreement I thought we were both happy with. He never held up his end of the agreement BUT he did start complaining to me about the mess. Dude was totally fine living in squalor until he had a woman he could bug into tidying for him. (Not very successfully, because, alas, I am also …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:57 PM
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The way I hear casual sex often described here sounds like bitter men fantasizing about how they would act if they could get away with it. But they can't, they can barely even get laid at all, they're definitely not doing any of that shit, nor do they know a single thing about how casual sex actually works. The hotties by and large have no desire to do any of that shit because they're not simply not bitter enough -- and they also understand that it would be highly likely to backfire. Losers jerk…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:23 AM
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