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I copy and pasted the very first paragraph of the article. Can you not read the last sentence where it says the evidence is lacking? Keep making yourself look more idiotic then you already have lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:27 PM
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I guess you truly don't know what the word lacking means. That's ok, anybody who know basic vocabulary and reads the very links you posted and I do mean all of the links in their entirety will know that you have proven absolutely nothing. It even says that the evidence is lacking. What you don't understand is I was not trying to convince you at all because your mind is already set. I was only showing all the others who actually take the time to read the articles that according to the exact words…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:25 PM
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Thank you. I had to accept the fact that my whole life, I was always attracting and settling for the exact type of woman I was complaining about. I also believe in turn that the exact type of man that many women complain about is because they keep picking that same man. I will say though that the whole reason I was attracting the bad women was because of my personality and the fact that I should have turned them away and waited for the good woman. The worst part is that the only way I did attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:45 PM
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My brain did not interpret it correctly then as the way I read it was that it was misogynistic if you had sex with the woman. So that is the part I misinterpreted. I taught this very thing to my son because he began to fall into the trap that if a woman had multiple partners it was somehow bad. So I referenced the fact that if a woman only had one partner in a relationship where she had been with one man for five years, would it be ok then? He said yes...so I pointed out that said woman probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:32 PM
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You are very correct on reddit there is much hate. I will respectfully disagree as to whether or not it is more women or men. You may be right though. The only reason why I would disagree is I see many of the feminist sites like FDS and such doing much of the same thing when really they are just attacking all men in general. Where as the male sites are more about attacking women in general for not lowering their standards. I just see both of them basically doing the same thing. So I guess you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:25 PM
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I am already old enough to understand this and I simply do not share anymore. My money is my money and it is not my job to financially support a woman. If a woman wants or needs money, she needs to figure out how to get it, just like I did. If she wants to go on vacation with me, she needs to figure out how to pay for it. If her children need financial help, that is up to her and the father of the children. So this is no longer a problem for me. I found the woman I was looking for in January but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:17 PM
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I understand that but often times the character the OP describes is not how a man started. Like myself, it is someone who is made that way from his experiences with the opposite sex. I was the type of man that made six figures and when I got into a relationship would simply get an additional bank card and hand it over to my significant other. At first things would go well and then as time progressed, I would see less and Less but more and more was expected. so by the time I was in my early 40's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:27 PM
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Actually, as a man who was overweight back in 2010 the last time I tried to date. I met many overweight women and all of them said they would date me if I wasn't overweight. So once I lost the weight, I refused to date any women who were overweight. I am now in my 50's so the vast majority of women I encounter on dating sites are not only overweight but extremely overweight. Many of which only provided a face shot, old pictures or angles that made them look much thinner than they were. Many desc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:10 PM
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Actually, as I have stated later in my responses that I am all about treating a woman very well in a relationship but I read this through the filter of my own personal experiences so I was a bit biased. Because of my own personal experiences I read the post in a completely different way than you did. I think both genders have their own bias when reading this and I can completely understand a woman's bias. I think it all boils down to who a person has been with. I have always been with women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:39 PM
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It is wonderful how you cruise right past the very first paragraph of each study where it clearly states the evidence of this is still lacking and you move onto the rest as if it were fact. It still is not fact and that is what the first paragraph clearly explains.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:13 PM
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I just responded, you might want to read that one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:08 PM
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Multiple epidemiological studies suggest a relationship between advanced paternal age (APA) at conception and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes in offspring, particularly with regard to increased risk for autism and schizophrenia. Conclusive evidence about how age-related changes in paternal gametes, or age-independent behavioral traits affect neural development is still lacking. Again, please read your evidence. I just copy and pasted the first paragraph and again if you read the last sentenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:08 PM
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You made the statement that I was wrong. Then as "proof" you provided a link with two different links attached. In both links, it clearly states in the first one what I have already pointed out that experts are not sure age is a factor. In the second link it repeatedly states "if this is true". That statement alone shows there is no proof and this is merely a hypothesis. As of yet, you still have shown no proof to back up any claim that an older mail sperm has caused anything. I do not wish to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:05 PM
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A mother's age is often considered a genetic risk factor for offspring, but research is now pointing the finger at fathers, too—particularly when it comes to the mental health of their progeny. Males may have the advantage of lifelong fertility, but as they grow older, the rate of genetic mutations passed on via their sperm cells increases significantly—putting their children at increased risk for psychiatric disorders, especially autism and schizophrenia. Two recent studies support this link at…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:46 PM
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In the very link you just posted, at the end of the very first paragraph it states that experts remain uncertain that age is the cause of the problem. Like I said, I actually took the time to read this so called evidence and in the evidence it shows no proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:18 PM
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So the other 50 percent is caused by women. Weird. Could you post this study so we may all read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:10 PM
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I agree with you and I am actually the type of guy who treats his woman like a princess. It is very easy for me to be taken advantage of as many times I have been. So I did develop quite the shitty mentality towards dating and many women in general. The really messed up part, the more poorly I treated women during dating, the more they wanted to be with me. For the life of me, I will never figure that out. Now that I do have the woman of my dreams and she is truly the woman I have always dreamed…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:53 PM
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Well, I kind of also looked at it through a different filter. I have always been in very one sided relationships. In which I was the only one working. Where children were basically forced upon me when I didn't want them, where all I heard was about how I wasn't doing enough. So once I got older, my children were grown and once again found myself single and dating. I did become somewhat transactional in my decision about who I was going to choose as my next partner. I found the woman I was lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:30 PM
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Most of the population is made up of the middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:19 PM
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This is true but you would be shocked how many men simply don't want to have children and it is forced upon them because that is what their woman wanted. So in my mind, there is no need to repay a woman for what she wanted. My wife was not doing me a favor by giving me a 20 year commitment and responsibility. Do I love my children? Yes. But, even now that my children are grown, I will never be thankful she did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:18 PM
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I was messing with you. In many cases such as mine, I never wanted children and made that very clear at the beginning of the relationship. So when the woman I loved came to me because she told me she changed her mind, I agreed only because I loved her. When you present childbirth as part of your argument, you try to present it in a way that you are only doing it for the man so he must do it the second time to be fair. In the instance with my wife, she had to have a full hysterectomy after our so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:09 PM
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I would also like to bring something up about the childbirth and this Is very realistic and honest. In many cases, just like mine. The man does not want children. As in my case, I only agreed to having children because it is what she wanted. So for anyone to present this in a manner that it was the woman sacrificing her body and all that for the benefit of the man is actually a very unfair example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:01 PM
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You also can't give him blood so you fail also.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:53 PM
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He doesn't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:52 PM
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In my life and all my friends life it was very accurate but I guess I live in a very different world than most so I apologize for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:47 PM
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I agree, it should not be transactional bit I will admit that it got to the point in one of my relationships where I started stating that I wasn't going to do anymore until I started seeing effort. It is never my woman's job to make me happy but at the same time, it isn't my job to make her happy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:40 PM
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I have been in a few long term relationships in my life and will admit that I read this through a filter of my own experiences. Almost all the women I have met or been with were very self centered and I am beginning to think it has a lot to do with the area I live in. I have never had a woman lift a single finger for me until I met the woman I am with now. She is from a different state and only one generation in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:35 PM
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I read all of it and looked at the sentence I quoted as a summary. In my life, I have walked away from many women who put absolutely no effort into the dating process. In their own words, they actually said they shouldn't have to and I simply walked away. So I will admit that I saw this through a filter of my own experiences. I have pursued many women that truly expect it is only the man's job to pursue and make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:31 PM
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Well, in my mind we were only talking about the dating process. The part where two parties were deciding to accept each other for a relationship and not the relationship itself. Everyone wants to bring up pregnancy as a go to. So what happens to the perspective when a woman can no longer have children and that is off the table. In your mind does the woman have less value then, since everyone wants to put such a heavy weight on pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:27 PM
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As I said, I never wanted children and only had them because the woman wanted the children. I am not trying to argue only offer a different perspective. You are also trying to take the stance that women are only doing it for the sake of some man wanting them to have children. I have never seen a single case in my life where a woman did not want to have a child and only did it because the man wanted it. I am not saying that does not happen. I am saying that in most cases, the woman wants the chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:23 PM
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As I said I do not advocate for large age gaps. Have even had times in my life when I was 20 and the woman I was dating was 22 but she literally looked like she was 12. Just the way I was looked at when I was with her was enough for me to break up with her. It was incredibly awkward. So I really don't know how older people date others that are so much younger than they are. Now that I am older, I look very young and often have women in their 30's who give me their phone number. I respectfully de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:17 PM
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Every single pregnancy I have been through. I always fully supported my woman full time. As a matter of fact, not a single woman I have ever been with has ever had to work if she didn't want to or could work if she did want to. So as I said in another response to you, I am looking at this through the filter of my own life. Not as a whole in society. I was also only looking at it through the courtship phase and not the entire relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:03 PM
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Well, thank you. I doubt I will ever get an escort. I am now in a relationship and love my sex life but I have thought about it when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:00 PM
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I am only talking about the very first dating part in which the two are coming together and before they become fully exclusive. I am talking only about the beginning where both genders are deciding whether or not to accept the other. You are talking about the entire relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:53 PM
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Oh I see your point but we are looking at this post from two different perspectives based upon our past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:51 PM
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Op was not talking about down the road. The OP was talking about the beginning of the relationship and acceptance. You are changing the parameters of the question. You are also using a one time instance and also not taking into consideration the fact that most women take nine months off during the pregnancy in which case he is supporting her, supplying and paying all bills and food. What if they do not want children or he does not want children at all? As in my case where I never wanted children…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:50 PM
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Oh you miss understand. I did not mean that to imply that's why men avoid fat women. Yes, men avoid fat women because they are fat. You are absolutely correct about that. I was simply trying to get rid of the myth that they are nice because not only are they fat, they are also not nice. As far as the hypocrite part. I have seen many fat women on dating sites that state very clearly in their profile that they will only date fit men. So hypocrisy happens with both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:45 PM
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In the OP's last sentence in his paragraph. He said Basically, the man required you to put in as much effort as he does. You find that a man requiring as much effort in a relationship as the woman is requiring as manipulative? If a man is expecting something in return, he is not being generous? Shouldn't a woman also be generous? If she was, then he wouldn't need to require it would he? So if a woman isn't generous, she also isn't a high value woman and therefore also not relationship worthy. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:41 PM
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Your last sentence says it all...."Basically, he will only put in as much effort as you do"..... I knew before I read the responses how many women would say no to this. I laughed really hard when I did. It absolutely proves what I have been saying for years that women absolutely do not feel that they have to put forth any effort into a relationship. This is also the same reason that most women do not get good men and the very reason most men walk away from relationships early on. A good man abso…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:28 PM
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To address this, no matter what age in the relationship so.eone always dies first. In the same studies that link possible autism in children to older men, it also links the possible causes to older women as well. I have read the studies myself. It is also not even close to being as high as the chances that women over 35 will have a child with down syndrome. The study also states there is no proof that the autism is directly linked to the father's sperm since, in every case, it is the woman who c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:57 PM
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Misogyny is a overall contempt for women for no other reason than they are women. What you are describing is not misogynistic. Please look up the actual definition, it is quite easy with Google. The actual thought that sex devalues women is the misogynistic part. Not the having sex with her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:43 PM
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Look up the definition of misogyny. Most women throw this word around as an insult and do not even know the true meaning of it. They are losing an argument because they are wrong, it's misogyny. They don't get their way, it's misogyny. A man does something that is for himself, oh it must be misogyny. Basically, misogyny is a pure and utter contempt for all women just because they are women. I don't date fat women because I think fat is completely unattractive and gross. I have been called misogy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:39 PM
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most fat ladies are not nice. That is a myth. Most fat ladies have a huge chip on their shoulder about being fat. This myth was started by fat ladies to make men think that if they dated someone that is fat, they would get someone who is nice and that would make it worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:16 PM
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The funny thing is, they don't even have to lie. Look how many ex con, drug addicted, abusive men have really hot women who are willing to support them. These women bow down and kiss the ground these men walk on, even after the men repeatedly cheat on them. One of my friends is 5'6", he is an ex con, can't hold a job, has a woman who supports him and he does just about every drug in the book. He even has side girlfriends that she knows about. The side girls know about his main woman. He is also …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:11 PM
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Lol, you hit the nail on the head. I used to be a nice guy and really struggled when dating. Now I'm a dick and I only get together with extremely hot women. You will find people who will argue this point until they die. Look around! Prison inmates who find hot women while they are in prison. Ex cons who can't hold a job and have women support them. Everyone has seen some random, unattractive man with a hot woman at his side and he treats her like crap, and always wonder why in the world she is …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:04 PM
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I have never gotten an escort but I have thought about it many times. You are right that they are way hotter than the average woman, especially if you compare them to the women in the US. They are also much, much cheaper than actually trying to woo a woman who may give you very vanilla and dull sex, on her best day. Many women believe they are great at sex when they are often times very disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:47 PM
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No, you misunderstood and maybe I said it wrong. My friends think I look young but they know my actual age so they have gotten use to me. So when they see her, they don't think there can be two of us. Her friends are doing the same thing with her. I have been doing a skin regiment for about 30 years, which most guys don't do. Plus I dye my hair and I avoid the sun or wear sunscreen even during winter months. Most men do not do anything with their skin. I highly recommend it as I have found that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:29 PM
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Wasn't trying to disprove any so call trend. The person I was speaking to is adamant about the fact that all men cheat when given the chance and actually argue the fact that all men cheat when given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:06 PM
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Women are very sneaky. In my last relationship, my woman's best friend cam after me just around the corner of where my woman was setting. I had to push her away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:14 AM
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I also know plenty of people who are like this so I really wander what type of people they are around that they believe this. I found the most attractive thing to a woman is a man who is in a happy relationship with some other woman. This is when I seem to have women coming out of the woodwork and hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:05 AM
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That is also what I was trying to say. As big of an asshole as I can be, I hold myself to a higher standard when it comes to cheating for myself, not for who I am with. Cheating is not something that someone must do. Cheating is a choice people make. It does not happen by accident. So thank you, at least there is one other intelligent person on this sub. I can't believe the amount of complete idiots there are on her. Then they try to argue that I must never get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:44 AM
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Actually I am 54 but you are close. I don't know where you get you information from about pheromones but I enjoy sex just fine. As far as my woman she enjoys sex just fine as well. We have sex at least 8 times a week. What exactly is the point you are trying to make? I am also talking over my lifetime, I have never cheated even during my marriage where the last 4 years it was a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:35 AM
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Look, I am not some young kid. I know the difference and I have literally been with a very high number of women. Last year alone I was with over 30 women. I am also not somebody that gives anything to any woman because I think she "might" give me sex. I am a very tall, fit and attractive man that makes great money. As I said, there are many times, even during a relationship that I could easily cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:26 AM
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I could plenty of times and get away with it. I make a personal choice not to cheat because of how I feel about myself, not because of any other reason. Maybe you are surrounded by a different level of people but I do not cheat as a matter of pride in myself. Not because I am afraid of getting caught or anything that may or may not happen. It is all about the pride I have in myself. I know many men who are the exact same as myself. Even my son is the same way. I will say that when I am single an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:03 AM
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Dating inequality? What exactly is dating inequality? Nobody owes anyone affection. Fair or not fair, there is no hard and fast rule that everyone is supposed to have a romantic partner in life. Just like economic equality, there is no hard and fast rule that people who sit in their moms basement playing video games all their life is going to make a six figure income. Nobody owes anyone any money or any affection. Nobody and I mean Nobody deserves any affection or money until they have done the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:57 AM
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So you are saying that men cheat when they can and when they don't, it's because they can't get another woman? I have literally had hundreds of opportunities to cheat over the years and I am currently with a woman now and have an opportunity to cheat. I never have cheated and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:44 AM
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I could never even consider dating a woman your age. It's completely disgusting. Not that a 20 year old is disgusting, just the idea of it. I have been hit on by women in their 30's who insist I look and act their age and accused me of lying about my age in order to not date them. I did start to a couple of times but before it went to far, I stopped it. I have a daughter who is 35 and it was just to weird so the farthest it went was a dinner date. But I workout and do a skin regiment every singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:03 AM
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I totally agree with you. You should never date someone you are not absolutely hot for. I do know there are a few men per thousand that do follow the ideology you talk about. I think it is incredibly ridiculous. Typically those men do not even have a good personality so their argument even falls apart on that level. As I have said, there is that same general thought on the female side as well. Now, here is the really funny part about me and the woman I am with. I am 54 and she is almost 56. We b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:43 AM
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I think women should like tall men. I also think they should like fit men. At the same time, I think men should be free to only want fit women but I personally have had several people try to insult and berate me because I will only date and be with a woman who is physically fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:14 AM
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While men on a couple of subs do complain and you are 100 percent correct. There are many women who combine in subs, complain on dating sites, complain at work and pretty much everywhere in society. I am tall, fit and make good money. I love it when women want those standards in a man. Bring it on. Although, as a man who has rejected women who are overweight and low income, I have received an incredible tongue lashing for it. In person and not on some insignificant sub. We even see it on televis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:10 AM
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Why is it your problem what other people do? If you don't approve of it, then simply don't do it. The only reason I have ever dated younger is because the women in my age group were either extremely overweight or they were complete asshats. So I dated younger women who were more attractive in both looks and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:01 AM
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I don't buy into the whole high value and low value thing. I am a very fit man, I make great money and I have great morals. I can also be a complete asshole when provoked. I only care about my own opinion of myself. I will only Dat a woman who is fit and can show me she appreciates who I am. I see many people in both genders who think that simply because they exist, they have the right and are entitled to what they claim is a high value person without any effort on their part, including not taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:43 AM
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I believe that in this day and age many people both male and female believe that if they "vet" enough, they will get that so called high value person. I have found that most people in life allow themselves to extremely out of shape but still expect to get the absolutely gorgeous person of the opposite sex. They put absolutely no weight into the fact that when you are over a hundred pounds overweight, that person that is making six figures, is in shape, and checks all their boxes, will not pick t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:49 AM
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There is no such thing as any wall for a woman at 30. Just like the majority of the time an older man does not prefer to date a younger woman. A man wants to simply date an attractive woman who treats him well. The key word there is "attractive ". I am older 50 and I ran into many problems trying to date and I will be honest, most of them related to weight. I am a very fit man so I was looking for a fit woman. I had very few options without going younger. When I did find a woman around my age th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:17 AM
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I think you are partially correct. I know that it is mainly women who have a problem with this. I don't necessarily date younger but the women I date that are around my age do look quite a bit younger, not because they are younger but because they are actually fit and take care of themselves which is becoming far more rare at 50 plus. In the area I live over 70 percent of the population is obese to morbidly obese, so that is the norm or average in my age group. Anytime anyone sees us and they kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:08 AM
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There are many reasons for this, one of which is not all women are in relationships with men. The other is there are many women who think they are in relationships that are not in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 10:17 PM
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Ok, feminism is in no way an accurate depiction of men or society. What you do with feminist lies is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:38 PM
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You are so incredibly brilliant. I do look at the redpill stuff but I don't believe in all their ideology. Some yes, all no. I make well into the six figures and at the age of 28 when I first hit the six figure milestone, I had so much money, I didn't know how to spend it all. That was a joke. I did invest it, I did take care of my retirement and did everything I should. I noticed as time went on, even though I continued to make more, it was harder and harder to have the same life. It got to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:33 PM
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I am a man and from my perspective a lot of women would be happier single. Men can be a pain in the ass. These type of studies never look at the Men though or the fact that this is not true for all women. Some men don't want a woman to take care of them, cook or clean or anything. That is my case. I do everything myself and enjoy it that way. Even when I was married, I did the cooking and most of the cleaning. Then I became single and nothing changed. My ex wife, well she is on the verge of bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:24 PM
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That may be true but, nobody can do anything about what happened in the past and they can do something about what is happening now. So if people want to change and help, let's concentrate on what we can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:18 AM
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What do fat chick's and mopeds have in common? They are both fun to ride until one of your friends see you on it. Male 8's will fuck female 5's and at the same time will also fuck hotter women. Will the male 8 marry or stay on any kind of relationship with a 5? Nope, they will keep her as a side piece. The old saying goes, any port in a storm is just fine. In other words a 5 is better than nothing when the hot chick isn't available.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:08 PM
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Lol, no. I am a man who wants to treat his woman the same as I want to be treated. I also like looking in the mirror and being proud of who I am. So I choose not to have a side piece or cheat. If I am not happy in a relationship, I leave and get a different relationship. I do understand you were being sarcastic but I did want to make at least that clear to all who were reading. I can be a total asshat at times but I would never degrade someone I cared about like that. I have many faults and many…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:09 PM
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Well I am an older person and I'm not always right. Sometimes I am even a bit crazy. Another thing I have seen on these subs is where a lot of young men are complaining about women not falling down in front of them for sex. Talking about how easy it is for good looking and rich guys to have sex. While they never get sex. They really don't get the fact that it is their angry and entitled attitude that chases women away and not the fact that they have no money or they only look average. I have a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:45 PM
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The funny thing is, I think most of the people on these pill subs are virgins who have absolutely no clue about relationships, sex, intimacy, or anything to do with the opposite gender. I don't think any of them have ever been truly abused or even come close. Many of them are just fricken angry. I mean like spitting mad angry. They really need to have sex and calm down. I wonder how many of them are on the verge of having a stroke from high blood pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:05 PM
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Name checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:58 PM
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You are right. Many of these people are admittedly virgins. Especially on these pill subs. There are a lot of incels and femcels. They live in the fantasy world of how things should be and not the reality of how things are. I honestly think they make these posts and comments so they have a narrative to go along with their masturbation porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:57 PM
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Why is it that no matter what the pist is about, it somehow always ends up where some random woman turns it into a talk about abuse? These people are so darn angry and bitter over crap that probably never happened to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:53 PM
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You are arguing logic with someone who doesn't understand logic. The marketplace is controlled by the majority as you said. He wants to argue a few millionaire to billionaire people who have side pieces and think they are the only ones who are considered HVM and everyone else is low value. Under his definition it would mean that only women who are perfect 10's that had the ability to be with one of these billionaires, are the only women that could be considered high value women. The fact that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:46 PM
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When people use terms like HVM, they say these are the men in the top 20 percent. Under those rules, I would fall into that category. Height, fitness, income, attractiveness and so on. I have absolutely no problem getting a woman or getting dates. Because birds of a feather flock together. Most of my friends also fall into the same category. None of us cheat or have side pieces. I have had plenty of opportunities to do so over the years. The reason why I don't cheat is for myself and nobody else…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:39 PM
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I didn't say you dismissed anything but you know what, I do my best to be a good person. Sometimes I succeed and sometimes I fail but I am not going to spend my life being angry anymore. Yes, I know there are bad men and bad women. I don't abuse nor do I participate in any form of rape. If I am in a relationship with a woman and it gets to the point where the sex is non existent, I simply leave and get together with a woman who isn't that way. If I see someone who is being abused, I stop it. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:36 AM
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You forgot famous rap women who drug and rob men. Anyways, have fun with your life. I hope you have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:26 AM
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Like I said, my mother left my father when I was in grade school. Those laws you talk about were around over at least 50 years ago. Women still stay in abusive relationships and women even abuse now. Here are some facts, there are entire families that are homeless right now. Instead of worrying about what happened 50 to 60 years ago, why aren't people getting together to help those families? The ones that are suffering today?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:01 AM
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What does any of that have to do with now? I am 54 and my mother left my father and got a job. Before that my father worked and supported us. They were never on unemployment. They also did not gamble. You act as if every man was terrible and that just isn't even close to being true. There were also some pretty terrible women. What is in the past is in the past. Most of the things you are describing happened well over 60 years ago. Why are you still holding a grudge about it. Is it making your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:53 AM
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Is that what you really think? Ok, I won't argue with you but I do know for a fact that a lot of men really don't care. If I cared, I simply would not be with the woman I am with. She has a very high N count. I really have no trouble getting together with women and have a rather high count myself. So if it bothered me, I would simply get a different woman. I do hope you have a wonderful day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:26 AM
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Actually, most of us do not tell most of our friends about our sex life. If that happens, it is only young men who do it. I personally have never told any friend of mine about my sex life at any age. I will sometimes talk about it on here as an example and only because I am anonymous. If I did, I would probably be scorned for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:51 AM
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You know, in every generation there are men that treat their woman very well and men who treat their woman poorly. Just like there are women who treat their man well and women who treat their man poorly. No gender has ever been a perfect angel and no gender has been a total demon. My grandfather treated my grandmother like a princess until the day he died of a heart attack in bed beside her. My father was a total ass to my mother. I was a devoted husband and father until my ex cheated on me and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:37 AM
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Actually most men really don't care or even want to know about a woman's past sexual experience. I have seen many women tell other women how men hate this about a woman and like that about a woman when most of that stuff is not true for most men. Now, I will agree that some men do care and those men seem to speak the loudest but most of us really don't care. The woman I am with had a FWB situation before I met her. I really don't care and very glad she enjoyed herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:27 AM
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I agree with the reasoning of how it happened and what happened but would like to make it a little more clear as to what you are talking about. Mothers have trained the masculinity right out of boys at a very young age. First, they are no longer aloud to fight. This is something every young boy should learn, it teaches him from a very young age how to deal with the aggressive emotions that testosterone brings on. This way by the time he is an adult, he knows better how to control and process the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:54 PM
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You are absolutely correct. I have been saying this for years and almost all women will deny it. For example, when I was married, I was the only one working. I was supporting my wife at the time and 4 children. One child was her daughter from a previous relationship, 2 children were mine from a previous relationship, and then we had one child together. Both of my older children were old enough that they actually helped with and did most of the housework as well as helping watch the newborn baby.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:59 PM
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How do I change it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:28 PM
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Automod?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:19 PM
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They treated me as if I was an accessory to their life. As if I was a toy they could randomly pull out of the closet to play with when they were bored and had nothing better to do. Even though they made a very comparable income, they made it very clear that their money was theirs and my money was ours. That it was always my responsibility to pay for every single thing. It all was very one sided. For example, I had taken one woman out for dinner and during the dinner she broke a tooth. She called…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 02:07 PM
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There are exceptions but not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 10:28 PM
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You said a very key factor. "If both women treat him equally" I have found women who make over six figures do not treat men very well. I have tried dating this type of woman a few times and really can't stand being around them for more than a few minutes at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:01 PM
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Actually, men who do have a very high income like myself, generally do not care if a woman does have a high income. In other words, we would rather have a woman who is nice and treats us well than a woman who makes a lot of money. Like the other person talking to you, I also have quite a bit of leverage when dating. I am very picky about who I am with and will only be with a woman who shows me she is worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:15 PM
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As a man, this is why I leave when the swx is crappy. You are right that a man really should move on when the sex is crappy instead of staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:33 PM
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Yep, women do have more options and what you say is true about many men. There are many men who don't act at all like you describe. The men who are still very masculine, very driven and make great money. These men are the ones who are sought after. They also do not have to settle for just any woman. I know many men like this. They only date and get together with the top tier of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:26 PM
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Depends on the man I guess. I went for years while I was married and younger and got zero compliments. Then, once I got my divorce. I did get compliments from women here and there. Never thought twice about them. Now, I'm in a happy relationship and get full blown hit on many times a week. Still think nothing of it. Women say they can't be nice to all men because a random man here and there will take it the wrong way. What they are really saying is they just don't want to be nice. I have seen th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:16 PM
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Well, I am 54 and I really don't yearn for anything except the woman I have. I have had plenty of chances to be with younger women and turn them down everytime. The idea doesn't appeal to me in the slightest and I even liked older women when I was a young man. While there are some men that act like you are talking about many don't. I won't convince you of that though, you have your mind set on what disgusting pigs all men are. I wish you luck on your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:23 PM
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Who really cares which way society thinks? Men are denied vasectomy. I am older and didn't want to have kids at all. I tried and tried to get a vasectomy. Couldn't get one until I had X number of kids and I was a certain age. It's always been that way and still is. I don't even understand why everyone besides you and your partner need to know. Child free or childless, who really cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:19 PM
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That is a pretty nasty take on men. It's really a shame. There are a lot of men, both good and bad that would never do any of those things. I don't go to strip clubs, follow Instagram models or do any angry masturbating even when I am single, lol. I have a wonderful woman now that is two years older than I am and she has had three children in her life. Oh well, your life, your perception. I hope it works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:33 AM
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What problem is that? I'm confused, is it a problem when others want to have children? I understand you are childfree. Yay you. If others want to have children, they are part of some problem? I personally never wanted to have children. I did because I was dumb. They are grown now and doing their own thing. I don't understand why it is that when different people decide to do different things with their life, someone says there is some problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:24 AM
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Wait, are you a man and just said emotionally abusive? Really? Emotionally abusive is something thought up by cry babies and immature little wimps. Why in the world would you worry about emotionally abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:54 AM
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Lmao, you are absolutely right. Men have turned into sniveling little cry babies. Women do not like, want or desire a cry baby. They are turned on by masculine. I have tried to tell men on here that. I get the "but then they might not like me" response. Well you aren't getting any ass now, how is being a man going to cause you to get less than zero? I also tell them to get in shape. I them get the "that won't help so why should I do it" response. You are one of the first men who also see the hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:51 AM
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Good job my brother. Keep it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:38 AM
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Well I am not sure exactly sure what everyone gets from TRP. Here is what I know from life. I know I am a high value male and I don't need any woman to agree with me on that. I know it therefore it is true. I make well into the six figure range and I am very physically fit. I have absolutely no problem getting women. So, if a woman wants to be in my life, she has to show me reason to keep her in my life. While I may pursue her in the beginning, I will not stay unless she shows my she is worth it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:37 AM
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I never had this attitude until 2 years ago so nope that wasn't the reason and really don't care if it was. I know the truth of who I am and someone like you really has no ability to insult me. I see no value in you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:34 PM
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Well, everyone on the average is overweight now. Both men and women. I will tell you what the problem is and it's the fact that boys are meant to be competitive. When I grew up, a boy being competitive was taught to fail. He learned it from a very young age and in turn learned to try harder until he didn't fail. We even had a saying. "If at first you don't succeed, try and try again. Then along came the concept of participation trophies and the idea that everyone wins. Young men do not know how …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:16 PM
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Once again people want to jump in and blame men for any bad behavior done by anyone. Why is it that everytime a woman or girl grows up to and has any bad behavior, it's somehow always a man's fault? Do any women ever take any responsibility for their own actions? Anyone who believes anything like this has never raised any children. Both my daughters reached puberty and wanted nothing to do with me unless it was to ask for money. Any time I tried to interact, I was told this was girl stuff and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:50 PM
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Again, only when we are talking about your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:26 PM
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So you think most of the women are trash bags? I agree just like your mom. She's a good trash bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:19 AM
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Again, this is your belief. I am old enough now that when dating, very few have children at home so they are no longer single mothers. So they are once again ok to date. I find there are more categories to women than just two as you have stated. I have been with the same woman since January. As long as she treats me well, she stays. When she doesn't, she goes. You are completely entitled to your beliefs, again, they are not my reality. I am also not entirely sure how this pertains to my original…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:50 PM
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That's all your belief but my reality is different. I live where there are millions of people. If I were to draw a circle with a 20 mile distance from the point I am at right now, there would be at least 100,000 women within my age group. Last year alone I dated well over 30 different women. So perhaps you couldn't replace pussy at a fast rate but I most certainly can and have. Even now, I am setting next to a gorgeous woman. She even knows exactly what I am writing. She also initiates sex often…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:19 PM
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Why they did or didn't leave isn't the topic of discussion. The person I responded to made it sound as if women were doing all these things when in fact most do not. I do understand I did act a bit beta just to keep the peace and now I do not. I now only date women who ate feminine by nature and if they can't afford to pay 50/50, I simply don't cohabitate with them. I no longer date overweight women and now the minute they start babling nonsense I just walk away and find one that doesn't. It's q…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:40 PM
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I am 53 years old and been in 3 long term relationships lasting over 7 years each. I have never had a woman pay 50/50. I have also never had a woman who does all or even the majority of cooking, cleaning or taking care of the children the majority of the time. None of them acted very feminine or even took very good care of themselves. Could you please tell me where I can find these fabled women I keep seeing people talk about? As a matter of fact out of all my married friends I have never seen o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:35 PM
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I absolutely agree with you and while dating ran into many women who were not feminine at all. It was a huge turn off. I have also seen where women will reject men who are not very masculine. Regardless of what people say, I have witnessed and lived exactly what you are talking about. Here is the cool part though. You don't owe any woman anything and those women who are not feminine, I simply will not have any of them as many men won't. There is a large percentage of women who still act very fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:24 PM
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Don't need to know them all, I know enough to know that any woman that can look at those rules and agree with them are not good enough for me, regardless of what they look like. I showed my woman those rules and she just laughed. Plus, there is only one thing a woman can offer me that money can't buy. It is not sex. It is not cooking, I do my own. It is not cleaning, I have a large house and do it myself. I am not lonely, and I have way too many friends, so it is not companionship. 99.9 percent …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:01 PM
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Actually, I have always paid for all the dates I went on and have never complained about it. At the same time, most women I did match with would never make it to an actual date because I would end it long before it got to that point. As I said, I am very selective. Since 70 percent of our population is obese to morbidly obese, that eliminates 70 percent of the women right there. Then you have the ones that are entitled and use the words like "I deserve ". Those go within a few days also. Nobody …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:05 PM
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Where you and I differ in terminology is the fact that prior to the exclusive talk, I do not consider it a relationship. I consider that as only dating and during that time, I will date many different women. When a woman asks me if I want to be exclusive, if I agree, that is the beginning of the relationship. We may have dated a month before that happens and had all those talks about what we expect out of a relationship. So it is just a difference in how we perceive things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:06 AM
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I am sorry for saying it wrong then. I meant to say that when two people first get to the exclusive talk. A man's deciding factor will be how is being treated by a woman. This discussion will typically take place in about the first month or so. So yes, I didn't say it the correct way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:58 AM
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I never said doted, that's your words. I am a man and yes, how a woman treats me is very important to whether I will commit to her or not. I am a monogamous person but I take that as a given when I am getting into a relationship. I do not care if a woman wants kids or not because it will never reach that point if she doesn't treat me well. I will move on to a woman who does treat me well. If she is putting on an act, committed or not, when she drops the act, I will drop her. That is the point I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:41 AM
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Bingo, you are absolutely correct. I have been trying to tell men that when helping them. I also tell them to not be so eager to please a woman, it makes them come across as somewhat feminine. Or at least less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:25 AM
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Men don't commit to women to ease their family. Well, maybe in some cultures but generally speaking men don't tell their families if they went out and had casual sex or hired a prostitute or anything like that. Yes, I know in a few cultures men will do that but in a few cultures wo.en will also do that. Men commit to women because of how the woman treats him in the beginning. For example, last year I was still dating and almost every woman I started dating would treat me pretty well at first. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:23 AM
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Umm, relationships with commitment can end anytime. Even a commitment doesn't guarantee anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:14 AM
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I see the real life comment many times. You do know that the women on dating apps are women from the area you live in right? They are women from real life. The only problem with dating apps is people don't use them to date. They use them as a relationship pre-qualification tool. I was guilty of the same thing. When I stopped doing that and became very selective with the women I was choosing, I became very successful with online dating and found the exact wo.an I was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:12 AM
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You are more right than you know. I am a man and I was very successful on dating apps because I am very selective with who I choose to match with. Out of 20 women, I might swipe right on one. I have tried to tell so many men this and I get how it will never work. When I was dating, I literally could have set up five dates a week but I was looking for a very specific woman. Many of my matches were eliminated within the first day of talking. I personally don't know how a man could swipe right on e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:06 AM
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Actually if you as a man are willing to put in the work, you do have many options when it comes to women. I am in my 50's and when I worked on myself and learned to act like a man again, I found that many women were interested in me and I was able to start choosing. I have tried to explain this to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:58 AM
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Actually, online dating was exactly where I found the woman I was with. I had very good luck with it and dated many women. As far as the names you mention that wo.en are called. I really don't ever do that. While being on the dating advice sub here on reddit, I was trying to give advice to another man and one of the FDSers came onto that sub and started calling me names. So when I looked up her post history, I found she was part of FDS. thats when I first saw it. There is very little dating advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:48 AM
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Yes, I have got into a few disputes with incels, they are worse than the FDSers. I will give you that much. The red pullers make me laugh. Yes, I am in the Seattle area and it does have a very high percentage of overweight people here. Maybe that is a correct observation on your part and honestly, I never thought of that. Thank you. That makes sense. I don't do the Mgtow at all. What got me started on the FDSers is the terms like calling all men scrotes and on the incel side with them acting lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:10 AM
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Yes, I really don't like FDSers. I freely admit that. They really do rub me the wrong way. As far as you believing me. Well that's fine, I am not here to lie. So I have absolutely no problem admitting anything I have said in the past. So believe me, don't believe me. It's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:49 AM
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Well, I admit that men are more open about it. I do not look at porn of any kind really and I was not really aware of those subs on reddit. As a matter of fact, at 54 now, I have never really had it happen to me until the last couple of years. I never really did anything like go to the gym. I was not even aware that I looked very good. About ten years ago, I started eating way different and started doing a skin moisturizing regiment every day. I also lightly dye my hair. So there are many times …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:15 AM
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I totally agree with what you are saying and thank you for explaining it. I have never seen any one part of a woman more important than any other. Without trying to be offensive, many men fixate on boobs or at least women think they do. Men very rarely talk to each other about such things, at least in the social circle I have. I personally like them on the smaller size but have been with women and the sizes have always been different. With all that being said, I have never found a woman's butt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:50 PM
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I agree with what you are saying and the absolute toxic response is proof of what you are saying. If a woman came on here and talked about a man looking at her boobs, legs, ass or any part of her, there would be reassurance and sympathy. If I get on here and talk about my experience because of my arms, well I'm just taking the time to brag. What that woman didn't understand is, I work a very physical job and I had lost quite a bit of weight. So my arms looked huge, and were very toned. I didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:09 PM
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Ok, I respect that but the person I was responding to made it sound like only men fixated on body parts and women do not. So I know that many women don't but I wouldn't say it's half and I know many men do but again, I wouldn't say it's half. I personally do not fixate on any one part of a woman. As long as she is fit, I find the overall form of a woman very beautiful and really do not look at every woman in a sexual way. Now, once I have feelings for a woman, I may find one particular part of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:56 PM
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Thank you for the support, somehow this woman can't have a simple debate. Using my own experiences as proof to debate what she was saying can only be a brag on my part. It is absolutely immature people like this that give many women bad names. I guess according to her women don't look at porn either. I sure am glad that I don't date women like this, they are so incredibly horrible to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:39 PM
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Is that how close minded you are? I am not trying to brag at all. I don't need to brag. I was trying to make a point and on topic that many women do the very thing you said women do not do. I really thought I was actually talking to an adult. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:35 PM
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Actually, many men find random pictures of female body parts to be very gross, especially as we get older. I have never volunteered a dick pick and have been asked at least a hundred times. I have also had women send me nude pictures which caused me to end all communication with them. So I do know that some of you are wired differently but many of us men are wired different than most men also. Even when I was young and happened to get into some magazines I wasn't supposed to. I found playboy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:48 PM
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Umm, I beg to differ through my own personal experience. I have very big arms and chest. I am very muscular. I constantly have women and many of them are strangers who randomly touch and make comments on my arms. Some even ask if they can touch them before they do. So while you may not be lusty after certain body parts, I know for a fact many women are. It is not a bad thing and sometimes I find it very flattering while other times I find it very awkward. Especially when I am at the grocery stor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:37 PM
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While I don't look at porn myself, someone posted statistics from porn hub on here so I had to go look up these statistics myself. Simply Google "pornhub statistics". They keep track of everything so they can market the right adds to the right people who are viewing. I found those statistics very interesting as it is primarily women who view things like "gangbang" porn. It also breaks things down by percentage what is viewed by who and even what they view it on. Some of it is quite depraved. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:21 PM
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So I wanted to say something as a man. I love having sex and truly enjoy it without finishing. Because of who I am, there are many times I do not cumm. I absolutely love pleasing a woman and enjoy the intimacy of sex way more than having an orgasm. The only reason I say this is because in the discussion, it came up that nobody has heard a man say this. Well I'm saying it. I know of many men who feel this way too. Another point you made about the majority of women not being able to achieve orgasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:04 PM
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I wanted to say something here. I am a man and I often have sex with my woman without finishing because I absolutely love the intimacy we share. Why don't I finish? That is a whole different story and will not force you to hear it unless you truly want to. I did just want to let you know that as a man, I would definitely have sex with a woman even if I knew I was not able to finish because I truly enjoy giving pleasure and I truly enjoy the physical intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:48 PM
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Actually my situation is long in the past and I did take care of my responsibilities as I should have. I spent over 30. Years of my life and about every dream I ever had to accomplish it. I am simply wanting young men to be very aware of how things can turn out. If you Google "dads by default" and "men paying child support for a kid that is not his", I think you will be very interested in what you find. Please do, it will only take a moment. Many people are absolutely unaware of things when it c…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 08:26 PM
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This is the fact that I am trying to say. I respect a person for who they are not their sexuality. If I like a person, I like them if I don't, I don't. It has nothing to do with their sexuality. I just get pissed when I hear or see things like I described.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 07:55 PM
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I was actually never married and Washington state does not have the lived together for a certain amount of time law. The stepfather liability law can be open to interpretation and by law is only interested in what is best for the child. Because I had lived with her and was kind enough to provide for the children when I was. When we separated and the father was out of work, it was in the best interest of the children that I pay support until a time when the father was back to work. This is how it…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 07:52 PM
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I am sorry you have gone through this and I know for a fact that gay men are real men. I am a straight man but I know that gay men who are not telling everyone they are gay are put under the same stereo typical man is a brute philosophy as the rest of us. I know that isn't exactly what you are talking about but it is one thing I have personally seen my gay male friends go through. I am also not explaining it quite right. To explain better. I have a gay male friend and unless he comes right out a…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 07:32 PM
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Also before you go calling someone a liar, how about you Google "dads by default" or "man paying child support for a kid that isn't his". I want everyone who reads this doubt to simply Google it for yourself. Every state has these laws and there are many cases of it. While it being rare that it gets broadcast on the news it is not rare at all that it happens.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 07:21 PM
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Want to say that someone just doubted my story so I will say this to anyone who doesn't believe me. Do the research and Google something like "fathers paying child support for children that aren't theirs". Don't take my word for it. Google it and find out the facts for yourself. You will be amazed at what you find. My story is true. The dispute may be on a different thread. I am absolutely 100 percent telling the truth of my experiences and all children including my own are all adults now. I did…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 05:25 PM
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So I only made it through the first part and stopped reading. I know what I went through. I have no reason to lie as the children in question are adults now. I do not need you to believe me and really don't care if you do. I am here to warn younger men of the truth and how it can be interpreted. If a young man believes me and avoids this situation, my Jon is done. That is all I am looking for to help young men protect themselves. If a young man doesn't believe me and gets trapped in the same sit…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 05:07 PM
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Yep, you should. Keep yourself safe at all costs.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 04:39 PM
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I will tell you the same thing I told my son. Do not date single mothers under any circumstance. If you are not serious about being in a relationship with a woman. Do not give your real name and never bring her to the place you live.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 04:38 PM
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Yes, typically in these cases just, there is no evidence to support the claims. It is their word and their word alone. A little crying on the stand is all they usually need.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 04:22 PM
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No problem. I am 53 and this happened in my late 20's, I doubt the law has changed but I want you to look up the laws for yourself. It was a bad experience. I was absolutely blown away when my boss came out and told me he had to start taking money out of my check. I was never even informed of it before hand.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 04:14 PM
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Well as I said I took care of my responsibilities and no longer have to worry about it. I did teach my son and all his friends a few things. One, if he isn't serious about having a relationship with a woman. He should always use protection, never give his real name and never bring any woman to the place he lives. He follows this rule as does all his friends.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 03:58 PM
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I really don't know to be honest. As I said, we weren't married and the biological father had a child support order against him before we even knew each other.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 03:47 PM
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I did live with her. I was unaware of the law before it all happened. I live in the state of Washington in the US. I began fighting it as soon as it started and it took me two years and getting the biological father a job. I wish I would have started sooner. They were taking the money directly out of my check and it did not matter that I wasn't the biological father according to the courts. This is a true fact. I am not making a single thing up. I was as blind sided as a man could be. There are …
/r/MensRights30/06/21 03:38 PM
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You are wrong about abortion and marriage. I have seen many married women get abortions without husband's concent. This is where the law is very clear about it is a woman's body and her rights. Also a woman can legally get birth control as soon as she has her period. I am talking about laws in the US. I don't know about other countries. My daughter got on birth control at the age of 13 using my insurance and without my consent. My wife as well as the other partners openly admitted to the deceit …
/r/MensRights30/06/21 03:33 PM
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Well, I am not talking a baby. I am using your own logic according to responsibility. If it is only a clump of cells and the man opts out, the woman then has a choice to abort that clump of cells knowing that if she brings it to term it will fully be her responsibility. If she has the choice to be or not to be a parent the man should have the same choice. If she aborts, she has no financial obligation. A man should have this same choice and not have a financial obligation.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 03:18 PM
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So when I was younger and the one time a woman did get pregnant with my child and I wanted to keep it. I guess that abortion was not against my wishes. With this argument, when a woman says she is pregnant and a man opts out. He is only opting out against a clump of cells. So if the woman wishes to continue carrying that clump of cells after a man opts out. It is on her.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 03:12 PM
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Look, many men would want to be responsible. The only thing I am talking about is the event where a man truly does not want the child. There are many cases where the man does want the child and is willing to do anything, even willing to raise the child on his own. The woman still has the abortion. You are seeing it as every man would just walk away which is a very extreme look at the situation. If the laws were changed and it was allowed for a man to exclude himself early on. The woman would sti…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 02:50 PM
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They were my own condoms that I bought and paid for. The woman in question was my first wife. Remember trust is supposed to be the foundation of a relationship and marriage. Yet, what you are saying is to never trust a woman? Is that right? Women are not trustworthy? Is this your stance?
/r/MensRights30/06/21 02:36 PM
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As an adult woman, she has the right to deny a man's penis entering her without a condom. She is not helpless in this matter. She has the right to say no to sex at all. It is her body and her choice, she also knows when she is not on birth control. Ultimately, it is her right to say no. I have three children and one of them I was using a condom that my first wife had poked holes in. The other two were with women I was in relationships with who insisted they were on birth control and allergic to …
/r/MensRights30/06/21 02:23 PM
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A woman ultimately has the choice. She is the one who also allows unprotected sex knowing she is not protected. I have had all three of my children where I was more than fine using a condom and in one case I did but the woman in question had poked holes in the condom. The other two convinced me they were on birth control and when I still wanted to use a condom, they insisted they were allergic to latex. Now, I manned up and took care of all my responsibilities and paid for all my children as I s…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 02:05 PM
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I find pro choice is a one sided deal. In my years I have been on both sides of this. In the first instance of an "accidental preganancy", I was forced to pay child support for a baby I never wanted. I later found out that it was on purpose and the woman wanted it. On the other side of the coin a few years later. A woman I loved very much again "accidentally became pregnant" and chose to abort against my decision to want to keep the baby and even offering to raise the child on my own. I grieved …
/r/MensRights30/06/21 01:54 PM
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I would also like to note that this woman will probably cry some sort of abuse as her defense as every woman who commits this type of crime typically does. Even though she was completely out of harms way, she admitted to the police that she did it because of child support payments and all the evidence that it was premeditated on her part. When it comes to trial, she will state that somehow she or the child's life was endanger. As in the case of Lorena Bobbitt where she cut off his penis while he…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 01:33 PM
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This is tragic and if they don't give her the sentence a man would get in this situation, it will send a message that if you are a woman you can get away with this crap. She needs to be executed.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 09:59 AM
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Because I am dumb. Yes I should not have trusted a woman. I always thought relationships should be about trust though. I maned up. I took care of my responsibilities but it cost me over 30 years of my life. Not to mention over a million dollars. The point I was making, it isn't always about the man just being irresponsible. Many times he is coerced and tricked. Many times he is deceived and he has absolutely no choice once its done.
/r/MensRights29/06/21 02:10 AM
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This I know. I did the same thing and even though the women were on board with it, when I did find the woman I wanted and ended the FWB situation, it was a rather angry situation on their part. They really didn't understand why I didn't just settle for them.!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:19 PM
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I don't know but would it be OK to tell the bottom tier of women the same thing? I have found that in the US there is an epidemic of obesity. As a fit man looking for a relationship I have found a very high percentage of women to be very overweight and undesirable. According to statistics 70 percent are obese to morbidly obese. This applies to both men and women and all age categories. So, when I was dating and before I found my woman, I turned many away for this. Would it be OK to tell them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:02 PM
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I agree with your statements to a point when the reality is chosen by both before. If a man goes against an agreement of pulling out, it is on him alone. But, in many cases and I am using my own experience hear. Many women will poke holes in condoms and also tell the man they are on the pill, when in fact they are not. This has happened in all three cases of my own children. Case one. My high school sweetheart told me she was on the pill and allergic to latex. I trusted her as trust is the basis…
/r/MensRights28/06/21 09:55 PM
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I believe you are correct. I would say I am in the upper percentage of men, especially at my age. I am 53 getting ready to hit 54. I found my woman on a dating app. When I first began dating, I did everything wrong. In the fact of how I wrote my profile and if I did get a match that went to a date, I acted wrong. I got to a point of frustration. Took a break and then went back at it. I didn't really care if I got a match at that point and became very selective. No woman my age could match my inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:33 PM
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This happens in the US, I had to fight this for two years and two different DNA test. The state of Washington has a stepfather liability clause that is claimed to be written in the child's best interest.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 04:45 PM
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Ummm, maybe you aren't the gatekeeper of sex but as a man I am. I decide when sex happens in my life. I decide if a relationship happens in my life. I do not date fat, ever. Men should not but at the same time, men need to be fit, if they demand fit. I really wish I could make men see they don't have to put up with all this crap that women are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:29 AM
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I am a man of 53 and yes I can easily get a woman my age. I typically go after younger women but no more than 10 years at the most. Nobody considers the fact that a man goes after a younger woman for many reasons and no, it is not easier to get a younger woman. There are many reasons I go after younger women and only one of those reasons is looks. The woman I am with right now is 2 years older than me. There are many reasons a man goes after a younger woman and none of them are because he can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:25 PM
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Ok, then since neither of us were there. We have to assume that if the cases were dismissed, the crime did not happen. I hope you never have to face being accused of this by someone. I am 53 now and I am the type of guy that expects to be treated well in a relationship. I don't put up with crap that women have a tendency to do. At the first sign of trouble, I am out the door. This has really pissed a lot of women off. Especially if it's right after we had sex the first time. I have also been ver…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:34 PM
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Over 90 percent of reports are true despite most being dismissed. This alone is what I am talking about. Imagine if you will, you are dating a woman and you break up with her. She gets pissed and says you raped her. You go to court and they do not have enough evidence to convict you because the rape really didn't happen. So you are telling me that I should still believe you raped that woman? That simply because she said it happened, it did?
/r/MensRights24/06/21 04:48 PM
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As far as I am concerned if there isn't enough evidence to prove it happened then it did not happen. Anybody can make anything up. There are many cases where women have confessed to lying about this stuff, even after a man had spent years in jail. So prove to me that wasn't what happened in every case that was either dismissed or a person was found not guilty.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:39 PM
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Ues my first child was conceived because my first wife decided to poke holes in all the condoms.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:42 AM
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Now that sounds like some very good ideas. I removed the post because I was getting direct messages from haters and believe it or not, most were men. I am past the point of having children. So it does not affect me anymore. Over the years while I was single, I had three different women insist a child was mine. I really don't mind wearing condoms. These were all, yes its yours the condom must have failed. I did have paternity tests in those cases because I really didn't care what those women want…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:40 AM
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It won't, I said that in regards to you talking about the laws not passing because of the financial obligation you brought up about the tax payers. I was simply trying to point out that the tax payers are paying regardless. No money is really being saved by the taxpayers. So I went a bit off topic and have to take responsibility for that. As far as the DNA being on file. What really is the difference if a man is sits upon it or it is just done anyway. I honestly am not trying to be argumentative…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:45 PM
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Umm this is an adult forum and I am entitled to my opinions about things. I did not insult you in any way. So how about you have some standards and tact. I gave a real life situation that I went through and just because you have feelings about children does not mean that I need to have the same ones or lack tact because of my views about them.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:29 PM
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Well I am all done now and won't be having any more children. I just hate the fact that other than true abstinence, a man really has no other rights. In my state there is even a stepfather liability clause and you don't have to actually be married to a woman to become financially responsible for the children she already has.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:26 PM
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Well, I do admit, I was foolish but the amount of pressure I was getting was intolerable. I had calls coming in from her mother, her grandmother, my mother, my friends and they all had me convinced I was wrong for not trusting her. Besides with the actual medical laws, nobody can look at medical records without a court order. Everytime they draw a person's blood they have that person's DNA, so from and invasion of privacy standpoint. If someone wants DNA it's technically already out there.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:12 PM
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Yep, nobody wants to acknowledge that there are many women who will trick a man into getting them pregnant. They will insist they are on birth control, they will insist that they are allergic to latex, they will poke holes in condoms. Heck my second child I dodged a bullet for three years, the woman I was with was allergic to latex. I would always make sure that I did not ejaculated inside her. Then one day I got drunk and bamm. I quit drinking after that.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:07 PM
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Something needs to change. I don't know exactly what but something. My son is currently planning a trip to another country to have a vasectomy done. He does not want children and he can't get a doctor to perform it here. From what I have heard from his friends they are planning it also.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:02 PM
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I understand what you are saying but honestly a lot of people don't pay for the support of their child anyways and live on state assistance. I knew a few women that lived in low income housing because I was friends with their boyfriends and fathers of the children. So these women were living in low income housing and collecting welfare while the father of the child lived with them and worked under the table. The apartment complex was 400 units and damn near every woman living there had their boy…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 10:57 PM
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I was not married at the time of my sons birth and I backed off because I was told how relationships are about trust and how could I put her through this emotional Rollercoaster when she was pregnant and the whole nine yards. I married her after the boy was born and nine years later when we got divorced, I had the test done and he wasn't my child.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 10:50 PM
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I understand about your first point but on the paternity testing if it is required then it takes away the fight and argument. When I asked for a paternity test on one of my children there was such a huge fight over it and shaming that I finally gave up. It did not just come from the mother of the child, it came from every person I told that I was going to have it done. If it had been a requirement, then there would have been no argument.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 10:38 PM
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If cases are dismissed how can they be true? How can you say someone is guilty even if they are found not guilty or there is no proof that they were guilty? That's like saying alien abductions are absolutely real and true, even though there is no actual real proof that they ever happened. That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 10:00 PM
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I recommend to every man to get a paternity test married or not.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 09:55 PM
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I actually believe there could be grounds for a class action lawsuit on this. Doctors tell parents that it's for the young man's health. That without the foreskin it cuts down on the possibility of infections and such. Where I see a major problem is women get yeast infections right? So why aren't they doing some surgical alteration to their genitals at birth? In some cultures a young man doesn't get circumcised until he gets older and none of those boys seem to have a problem with not being circ…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 09:51 PM
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Well a man may or may not be a rapist and you don't know until it is too late. But, most men are not rapist. I would say the actual numbers are probably a very low percent. This is just my own perception of guys I know and have known throughout my life. I have never actually met a rapist. Again, I don't know this for a fact and I am very selective about the friends I keep. So that could be part of it. Now in comparison to being afraid of losing everything you have through divorce. Every single m…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 07:38 PM
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Actually men are not scared of women. It is the fact that if a woman finds a man attractive, she will more then likely be pleased he approached her. If she doesn't find him attractive, she will more than likely shame him, be rude to him and pretty much drag him through the mud. If he knows her from work, he could lose his job. If he knows her from a social circle, he will be talked about behind his back. The other part of this is, if a man acts masculine, he will be labeled as an abuser. This ha…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:51 PM
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Why would you even bother. She wants all men dead. She is showing you that she has a severe mental disorder. After all men are dead and gone, there is no sperm left in sperm banks, how will an egg get fertilized to produce more children? Have they invented a way to fertilize an egg without a man's sperm?
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:26 PM
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Because society wants to teach your son that sexism is perfectly fine as long as it's a woman being sexist. I remember boy scouts and I also was an eagle scout. It is some of my best memories as a youth. This is really too bad.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:08 PM
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Mary Kay Letourneau was a teacher in Burien Washington. It is close to where I live. She was convicted of two counts of child rape which started when the boy was 12 and in her 6th grade class. While awaiting sentencing she gave birth to the boys child. She was sentenced to six months in jail, 3 months of which was suspended. She was ordered to no longer see the boy. She violated this order a number of times and continued having sex with the minor boy. I don't know the total time she spent in jai…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 05:54 PM
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They have become too commercialized. Take Christmas for example. It's a holiday that is supposed to be about celebrating the birth of christ. It is actually 2 holiday combined into one. This is how Santa clause comes into the picture, hanging stocking around the fire place and the giving of gifts, these are all things that have nothing to do with Jesus. These things are part of the holiday that nobody knows about. Saint Nicholas is not a Christian Saint. So when we celebrate Christmas by doing a…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:48 AM
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I responded to the main body of the post read there.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 08:05 AM
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Welll here is the deal, I do not look at the videos at all. It is now incorporated into a home security system that records throughout the house 24 hours a day. Every room with the exception of the bathrooms. It is noted on the front door that there is a video system in the house, just like when you walk into a convenience store. The only people that have ever seen the videos are the police. So by having it posted for anyone to see upon entering, it is all perfectly legal. It just never register…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 08:04 AM
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How about just have a world day?
/r/MensRights22/06/21 10:14 PM
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Agreed lol.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 10:13 PM
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I am sorry this has happened to him and sorry that you have to go through it. I was abandoned at the age of 14 and around the age of 15 was sexually assaulted by a woman and her friends. She was a much older woman and I was an under age man who was still a virgin. When I contacted the police, I was laughed at. One of them stating that most young men would love this. Well, I got over it. Two years later, I was accused at the age of 17, of having sex with a much younger girl. The police surrounded…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 09:46 PM
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Yes we should do away with Father's day, mother's day, valentines day for starters. We don't want those without a significant other to be left out or have their feelers hurt. Wait, Christmas too as the Jewish will feel left out. New years eve? Yep a dead person who didn't make it could get offended. Wait the Jewish form of Christmas, I think it's called Yom Kippur, that may offend others who don't celebrate it. All birthdays must go, don't want a poor child who's parents can't afford to give the…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 09:02 PM
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Let's compare apples to apples. This sub is about men's rights and how men feel about what's going on. You are allowed to come here and discuss your views as is every woman feminist or not. On FDS, a man is not allowed to post his views at all, just because he is a man. Any responses he tries, he is banned and his response is immediately deleted. Many men are upset about the feminist movement because, even if he tries to stick up for women's rights, the extreme feminist will say he is still part…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:38 PM
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I am not a TRP guy and I have no problem getting women. I love watching the battle between TRP and FDS, it is very amusing. I have moved away from being with American women as far as long term relationships. The woman I am with is American born but her mother was not, so she was raised with a set of values that are way different than the women I am accustomed to. I have found that most of the women who do work well in a relationship are already in a relationship. Leaving some very obese, very bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:13 PM
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I am a bit confused as why so many people are worried about how much sex this Chad guy gets. I am not 6'4", and I am muscular now but I haven't always been. I make great money but I don't let women know when I am pursuing them. When I have a bad attitude, I can't get laid. When I have a great attitude, I can literally have a different woman in my bed every night. As long as a man isn't morbidly obese, it's more about his attitude and masculinity than his height and looks. I am only 6foot and I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:54 PM
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For a moment I thought you were talking about women in your average. I am an older man and most of the women I see are 200 pounds and 5'7". Most don't make crap as far as income. I truly wish women put effort into becoming above average as well. I am 6 foot and 190lbs but solid muscle. I have an incredibly beautiful and fit woman now but literally went through meeting over a hundred women to find her. I will admit though, I live in the Seattle area and the obesity rate for women here runs around…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:37 PM
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It is their goal and I get that. If you allow them to pick and choose. As I got older, I realized I choose who I have as a woman, I don't just allow them to choose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:41 PM
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You are right about that. Some women do walk away because of it. I really don't care because there are plenty more. There are always plenty more. Women say they use it for security but they use it to stalk a man. When they ask about my social media I flat out say that I don't need stalkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:32 PM
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Oh ok, I read it wrong. I just woke up and not enough coffee for brain to work yet. I have tried to tell my partners from the past about the dead sex. I would rather gouge my own eye out with a rusty butter knife than ever try that again. The woman I have now, I could say something and she would understand. She just happens to be very athletic. Now that I'm in my fifties, I could break a darn hip. Perfect fricken timing universe.lol. yes, men do like women who are more enthusiastic and also more…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:28 PM
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I always thought of myself as average in looks. I guess since I am not overweight and crap, I am no longer average. My son also doesn't use social media and he has no problem with it either. Could be how we present ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was around before then but thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:03 PM
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I do find my women online. They do ask me about my social media and I also tell them I don't have one. If they don't like it. I move on. From where I am standing right now. If I drew an imaginary circle 20 miles around me, there would be 100,000 single women inside that circle. There are new ones popping up every day. If one doesn't like the way I do things.....NEXT. and next and next.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:59 AM
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No, you didn't ask, you made a comment as to try and insult someone by saying too bad these men are not in a healthy relationship. I wanted to make it clear that I was. The things I say on this forum are meant to try and open people's eyes up to the reality of life. The first comment you made was that caught my arrention was the fact that you didn't here any man complaining about bad sex. So the subject of discussion was sex. Most women do not handle rejection at all and they are even worse with…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:52 AM
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I am in a very healthy relationship with a beautiful woman. The sex with her is fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:33 AM
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I have a woman but I choose to not have a social media account. I really don't need the headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:32 AM
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Or you do what I do and don't have any social media accounts for them to snoop through.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:25 AM
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I am glad things worked out. Things have also worked out very well for me as I now have the type of woman, I always fantasized about having. She is the one who has explained how masculinity effects the way a woman perceives a man. If a man acts like the woman gay best friend, he is going to be put on the friends list and he will not make her feel that chemistry. Just like if a woman is not feminine, she will not cause a man to feel that chemistry, regardless of how she looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:47 PM
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I believe I have your answer and it is what my problem was. I had formed an impression in my mind of what society told me that women wanted. I had a great career, great house, great moral set, intelligent and faithful. When I started dating, I could barely get any matches. If I did get a match, and I didn't say something a woman took as offensive, if I actually got to the point of a date, I would end up being put on the friends list or got the ever so wonderful "I didn't feel the chemistry" text…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:31 PM
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I totally agree with you. When I started dating, I literally could not get a date and if I did, it never went beyond the first date. I was in shape, I made great money, had great morals and yet, I could not get things to work in my favor. I refused to look at myself, refused to see that anything was wrong with me, I just simply refused. So, I began blaming women. Everything I said or thought about women was true. One women did X, one woman did Y and one woman did Z. So all women did XY and Z. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:13 PM
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Actually to extend the conversation and not choose sides one way or the other. I think many people are misunderstanding what he is saying. He is also not doing any favors by simply explaining things better. There is a huge difference between "NEED" AND "WANT". A man does not need a woman for anything other than reproduction. Same as a woman does not need a man for any other thing as well. Now, if we move into the realm of "WANT", this dynamic changes drastically and everything opens up to a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:43 PM
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I expect a woman be my friend in a relationship but I don't need a woman friend. I never wanted or needed a roommate and every time I have had a relationship, I paid her share of the bills also. I don't need a partner in anything, I am very independent in all aspects. I have always done my own cooking and cleaning, even while married and have noticed the amount I have to clean and maintain is way less while I am single. I never wanted children and only had them when the woman I was with forced t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:24 PM
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Yes, we all do complain about it. Only when we complain to a woman we are with, their answer is to not allow us to have sex anymore so we don't complain to women. Typically, when a man has sex with a woman the first time and never comes back, it is because the sex was horrible. If it was mind blowing, he will be back. Even the worst of men will come back to hit mind blowing sex again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:05 PM
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I have personally seen it. As a matter of fact. On reddit under the sub FDS, you will see that they will call these women pickmeshas. You may not believe that it happens but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:01 PM
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While I know that statistics say exactly what they say. I know that there is a vast majority of attacks that women have done, that never get reported. Also for many years, even when there was violence on the woman's part, it was often put on the man anyways. For example, my first wife was 6'2" and I was 6 foot even. She weighed 145 while I weighed 135. I was 19 at the time. She got drunk and attacked me in front of many witnesses and in defending myself, she ended up getting pushed down. The pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:59 PM
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I agree but that isn't the world we live in. How about not adding to the problem by making the false accusations. Then we would be so skeptical about whether the true cases are actually true. It is the whole argument of which came first, the chicken or the egg. Kill the chicken and squash the egg. Both are wrong and both should not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:44 PM
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Very funny isn't it? Nothing I said was untrue. On top of that there are many cases on record now where women are falsely accusing men of rape. At least now they are finally putting these women in prison. Thank god. This type of behavior makes it harder for women who actually do get raped, not to mention it ruins men's life's, for what? Because some woman didn't get her way so she is going to cry rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:49 PM
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Well here is the deal with women. It took me a long time to figure this out. There are a lot of women out there that absolutely will adore her man. The oppressed minority always screams the loudest. Look at FDS. it boast so.e 160,000 members. That sub is worldwide. Most of the members have multiple accounts so the real number of members might be around 60,000. Seems like a lot right? Remember, this is worldwide with a population of around 8 billion people and half those are female. All those wom…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 03:40 PM
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You are right to be mad. The propaganda and hate that is fueled by women is affecting our society in an incredibly bad way. Obesity is an incredibly bad thing. This is one example of how this false propaganda is destroying our mind set. If you look at the top five things people die from, obesity is number two on the list. It is such a high number that it is right up there with smoking. Yet our society has been taught to accept it. We are actually shamed if we say we don't want to date an obese p…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 02:42 PM
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Actually, I am in the United States and I am in a career field that is known to be male dominated and the potential for sexual harassment suits are high. We are required to go through a discrimination class every year and sign a contract stating we know all the laws and how they work. This is a two week class put on by the lawyers who defend against harassment lawsuits. First, most of our states are what's known as "At Will" states. This means an employer can terminate at any time for any reason…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 02:18 PM
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You have to understand that some of these notions get started out of pure laziness. To explain what I mean, when you have a social trend like shaving areas, some women do not want to take the time and effort to shave. When men come to like having areas shaved, now these women feel like they have some how lost out. They must have to find a way to change how men perceive a woman being shaved. So they attach something bad to the practice, demonize it and spread the false propaganda the best they ca…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 01:45 PM
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Porn has been around in one way or another since before I was born and I am old. Men have been looking at porn in some fashion since the 50's and maybe before. The point is, it's nothing new. In the 70's and 80's every video store had a porn section. Again, it's nothing new. Is it easier now? Yes. But, it was still easy before. The big difference is actually how many women view a relationship. I am not saying it's women's fault, it is not. I am saying that when I was young and long before the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:40 PM
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Yes, exactly. Women do and say things to women and its always in the name of men. Women dress to compete with each other and then claim that they do it because that's what men want. So then all we here is how demanding men are and how we expect this and that. Yes, some men do. Those are high income egotistical men. The average middle class man is just happy in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:34 PM
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I'm in the Seattle area. I am also not talking about sports bars or things like that. I'm talking about singles dance clubs that used to be around. Once in a while I will find a packed bar but it is not the type you mingle in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:29 PM
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I agree with you and throughout my life, I have seen it countless times. For example.... when I was younger women would s l u t shame other women in the name of men. I witnessed this countless times and it never hit home until it was centered on me. To explain, I hung out with a large group of friends, comprised of both men and women. One of the women had a huge crush on me and she did not keep it a secret. Well, one day another woman enters the group of friends and she too was interested in me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:25 PM
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Allow me to clue you in on something. What you just described is called human nature and it's been going on since man first walked the planet. It didn't just start. Men used to teach their sons this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:34 PM
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Oh, I see. Our entire society has turned into that. Men never used to push men out of social groups for making mistakes, we used to just tease them about it. Women always kicked women out of social groups for the slightest mistake. So I guess this is what you get when you have single moms raising boys. They grow up to be amazing young women. That explains a lot. This is why I see a lot of young men on reddit complaining that women don't pursue them sexually. This is why I am seeing a shit load o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:42 PM
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Oh I see what you mean and you are absolutely correct. I have heard over and over about these random weird men approaching women and how terrified they are because men rape and men are abusive and and and. When in reality, I know for a fact these women go absolutely no where except work and home. They want to act like all these things are happening to every woman on the planet every day and even multiple times a day. Now, I won't debate that it happens but it is a very small percentage of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:27 PM
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Well, that all sounds like a them problem. Not a me problem. Women getting approached by a weird creepy men? Hardly anyone approaches anyone anymore. So I see women complaining about this but as I walk down the street, through grocery stores, even in bars, I just do not see anyone approaching women at all. It is also very subjective in the fact that if the woman is attracted to the guy, she won't think he is weird or creepy. You also see a large number of women complaining about men not approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:04 PM
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I agree, it's really too bad. Generally speaking, I have never seen women as weak as they are now. Yes, they are more financially stable and committed to working but they generally so incredibly weak. Many of them paranoid that every single man is a rapist, scared to come out of their house or go outside their comfort zone on anything. Wanna go kayaking with them? Some will but most say no way. Want to take them skydiving, I have yet to have any woman go with me. To hear them speak though, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:08 PM
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Well, it's really pretty darned funny. Especially watching them sit in the back of the police car. I sat back for years as women walked around hitting, slapping and being pretty darn physically aggressive. It wasn't like it hurt or anything. I saw other women doing it to other men. We so much as look at them cross eyed and they call it abuse. They do something that pisses us off and we go silent just so things don't escalate and now we are being emotionally abusive. So now, a woman does anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:46 AM
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Oh and you are right. Sex really isn't that big a deal anymore. Still important, still required but I have no problem walking away from a woman if she doesn't act right. More men should do exactly that and stop putting up with the bullshit women dish out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:20 AM
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Well I have always absolutely loved giving women orgasms and yes I am usually pretty good at giving women multiple orgasms. But, I usually have to work at it. I don't know what it was about this woman but everything was absolutely perfect between us and within minutes the first time together she was popping off like a pez dispenser. Then all the sudden she held her hand up in a stopping motion and so I stopped. She couldn't even talk for two minutes or so. When she finally explained I almost sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:17 AM
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Ok, I had this one woman that literally had so many orgasms that she would get exhausted and have to rest like every 15 minutes. So that was a pretty incredible ego boost. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get your own groove on when you have to stop every 15 minutes? The messed up part is this woman said she had never orgasmed before she met me and we were both in our fifties. Now it may sound like I'm bragging and at first I sure was. But it was every damn time. Half the time I couldn't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:06 AM
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I agree we are. There is also a fair amount of brainwashing that goes on about relationships. I can literally get everything on a regular bases from a woman without ever committing to one. Morally, I can get everything but sex from a woman without ever committing to a woman. In reality, I can even get sex. I am just very open and honest about my position on it. I spent years being in a relationship that had a dead bedroom because I bought into the brainwashing. I was miserable and I stayed. I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:57 AM
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Exactly, try to use one as a wingman and every woman thinks you are with her. Trying to have a platonic conversation with them is a waste of time. I don't want to hear about their monthly cycle or how some guy dumped them after sex. Or how some woman at work is picking on them my God, I am making my own self fall asleep thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:49 AM
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Ok, I respect your view but it is not mine. Sex stops and I change the relationship to just friends and I find my new partner. I am an older man and I no longer share my resources unless I am being taken care of in the manner that I expect. I do not do FWB but, I will not be committed to a sexless relationship. I will either be single or I will find a different partner. I am very open and honest about this. The woman I have in my life right now understands and accepts this. The day she doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:45 AM
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Yep, you are right. Just like many of the women that get dumped after having sex the first time is because they absolutely suck in bed. I mean I have been with women that were so incredibly bad. I was with one woman last year and she was so incredibly bad that I stopped during foreplay and just got dressed. It was just so bad. I left and never called her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:40 AM
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Yay, another person who believes the truth!!!!! Yes female friends are a wild ass waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:37 AM
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Most young and non confident men can't gatekeep anything. I have turned many women down for sex and turned many women down for relationships. As men get older we realize that many women aren't really all that great when it comes to sex and quite honestly, they are a lot less desirable. So it is very easy to walk away from them and move on to the next woman. Women also don't handle rejection well at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:28 AM
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I am one of those men that acknowledges that I am in a relationship for sex. The friendship is nice but I can be friends with anybody without being committed to them. I can go out to dinner with any woman or do any activity with her without being committed. I can even love her as a person without being committed. If there is no sex, exactly what is a person being committed to? Being monogamous implies, that you will not have sex with anyone other than your partner. If you are not having sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:21 AM
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Almost every man has experienced women reacting with anger and violence also. I have been hit, punched, maced and had crap thrown at me from turning women down when they want sex. I am 53 years old and these women are in my age range. I have had two of them arrested for assault. So, please explain how women are any different? As a matter of fact, I have never seen a single woman act well when she gets rejected. Yes there have been very big profile cases of women committing murder. I even remembe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:12 AM
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I'm not an incel but lowering standards is a misconception. The ugly and heavy girls still want the good looking guys. Just because a woman is less attractive doesn't magically make her taste less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:58 AM
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I'm over here in the Seattle area, I am also 53. So, when dating, there are a lot of women I met that were a bit larger than my preference. Let's just say it's Moo central. Well, some aren't so bad and right on the edge of doable. Needless to say, I turned many of them down. Hell hath no furry like a woman scorned. I have had things thrown at me, I've been maced, I've been called every name in the book, it just goes on and on. Women have absolutely no room to talk when it comes to keeping contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:53 AM
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Actually if you read my post, in at least one spot I said I agreed to it. That was me saying it was my fault. I did take those responsibilities and I had to swallow all that and learn from it. Now, I can use my experience and hope that in some way help younger men. That's why I do tell them to not get into a relationship with a single mom. Not because the mom may or may not be a good person but because, it's hard enough going through life with your own personal decisions. Don't be so willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:12 AM
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Well these people are explaining it wrong and nobody is looking at a few facts that I went through as a man who was involved with a single mom and married her. I ended up raising and falling in love with three kids that weren't mine. I supported them, took them to school and sports functions, watched them grow and learn. When the child acted out and I tried to discipline the child, I was told it was not my child. That never seemed to come up when money was being spent on them that neither the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:29 AM
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You are right but you really are looking for just one right? You don't need a super large pool of women when you are looking for just one. Relax and be patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:17 AM
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Yep, you are right about relationships. Women used to treat men really well and appreciate men when they had one. Now, they just act like men should wait on them hand and foot. Not all, but a lot of them do act that way and if they do try to treat their man well, they often get shunned by their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:57 AM
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There is so.ething happening around my area and I don't know if it is happening anywhere else in the US. My son told me about it and is going with so.e friends outside the US to get a vasectomy as doctors in the US will not perform a vasectomy on a man until he has 2 children and is over the age of 30. I know many young men are doing this in my area and some that already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:37 AM
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Don't worry, the article talked about women but I am a father and I know for a fact, very few young men want to have children ever. My son is actually going outside the country to get a vasectomy as many of his friends have done or are currently waiting to do. Here in the US, doctors will not perform a vasectomy on a man until he has at least 2 children and is over the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:33 AM
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Ya, it's weird. Even before covid. The bars are all empty, hardly anyone goes to bowling alleys or hang out at all anywhere. We used to have massive dance halls with live bands everywhere. On a Friday or Saturday night almost every bar had a live band and a dance floor. Heck, balck Angus, which is a steak house, had a dance floor with a DJ. Does anyone even go out anymore? Has our entire society turned into a bunch of zombies that just sit 9n the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:09 AM
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I understand that and I already see a lot of complaints from young women. Many about how young men just aren't doing any chasing. Also about young men refusing to get married or even in a committed relationship. The birth rate in most countries is going way down. The marriage rate has gone way down. You can Google all these things, I did. In 1990 the marriage rate in the US was 9.1 per thousand. In 2019 the marriage rate was either 6.4 or 6.8 per thousand. Doesn't sound like much until you consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:20 PM
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That is a total cop out. Divorce and men growing up without father figures has been going on since before I was born. I didn't have a father figure in my life and many of my friends did not either. We became men because we wanted to become men. I will tell you exactly how it won't happen. It will never happen playing a video game. It will never happen sitting around mommies house. I have seen situation where even when the father was in the picture the little boy still refused to grow up. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:39 PM
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My add to the discussion is these little boys should grow up and start acting like men. Move out on their own, support themselves and learn how to be productive members of society. Then they can work for and get everything they think they deserve. That is the answer and it works every time. Little boys playing video games in mommies basement don't get laid!!!! Well duh! Nobody had to take a damn survey to figure that one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:20 PM
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Actually, I am 1 year too late to be a boomer but yes I have that attitude and thank you for the compliment. Now, to address the female entitlement. Always has been and always will be. How does that change getting laid? A man is not entitled to this. If he wants it, he will either do what it takes or he won't. Even if he does everything right he is not entitled to get it. Personally, I have a lot of women that come after me and they always have. I turn down more women than I accept. Why? Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:11 PM
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What exactly does fair have to do with anything? Are we going to call the "fair police" and have everyone brought up on charges? Life has never been fair. Men have always had to work harder to get laid than women, so what. I have always been able to get laid whenever I want because I don't spend my life talking about what is or isn't fair. Just like I didn't spend my life being worried about how I grew up, about being abandoned or anything of the sort. I wanted to make six figures, so I figured …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:54 PM
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No, this is because I know the parents of a lot of these leeches and they let me know exactly how their children act. Yes, there many parents who are very ashamed and stuck. So this is no assumption. I feel very sorry for these parents. In some cases the sons actually throw temper tantrums if the parent even suggests they move out. The sons version of helping with bills is he buys his own hot pockets once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:34 PM
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Dude, you and I both know that these people do not generally help their parents with bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:23 PM
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I don't care what they do and yes, I find a man living with his parents at age 40 is pathetic no matter what he feels about money. It's easy to say they don't care about money when they are living off so.eone else's money. What happens when their parents pass away and mommy isn't there to support them any longer? I have seen it happen many times and they become homeless crying about how it's all there parents fault for not leaving them an inheritance. To answer your question, they are pathetic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:17 PM
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Actually, I was abandoned at age 14 and without anything more than a 7th grade education, I raised and supported a family as the sole provider. I taught my kids how to overcome obstacles on their own, without my help in any way. So I have very much been there. I also came from a very poor household and was abandoned during a time when the economy was at its worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:09 PM
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I'm talking about 40 plus, so 20 years ago when they should have become an adult and moved out, the economy was not bad. My oldest child is 34, lives on her own. My second child 26, lives on her own. My youngest child 22 and lives on his own. I also live in the Seattle area and it's one of the most expensive places to live. All of my children got jobs, and moved out on their own regardless of the economy and stayed living on their own regardless of the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:55 PM
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Umm, I know many 40 plus year old men that have never moved out of mommies house and the economy hasn't been bad for that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:47 PM
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It could be that women have gotten so difficult for these young guys that they gave up chasing them. Since they are no longer around women, they don't need to drink anymore. They now just spend their spare time playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:41 PM
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The episode I was talking about earlier was from a previous relationship when I was younger and wasn't even married to the woman. It was a single mother I had been with for four years prior to my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:09 PM
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In this state even in a 50/50 situation, the woman still gets full support. I had 50/50 of my son. He was the youngest and the only child left in the house. I paid 1000.00 per month in child support and 3000.00 per month in spousal support. My ex wife made 20 an hour while we were married and she spent her check on herself. Luckily the spousal support only lasted five years. As soon as it was done, my ex no longer wanted my son to be with her, ever and turned full custody over to me. At that poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:08 PM
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Oh, even if they do something that thoroughly pisses you off, and you simply go silent as to not escalate the problem. That is now being called emotional abuse. Yep, doing absolutely nothing or saying nothing has now become abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:57 PM
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Um, no it is typically 800 a month for each child. In states like Washington state where there is a stepfather liability clause. I woman can actually collect child support from more than one man on their children. It happened to me and took two years in court to get them to stop. I finally did but all the money I paid during those two years was lost. Not to mention the 20k in lawyers fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:54 PM
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This is unbelievably true and goes much deeper than you think. This last time dating, I ran into many post of single mothers insisting about only wanting a man without children. My children are grown and out of the house so I figured why not. When I contacted these women, one of the first questions was whether I have children or not. I said that I didn't have any at home. This is when they would actually get upset and tell me that they specifically said no children. I apologized for my misunders…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:46 PM
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I will agree to a point. The male vision of the female stereotype is more set by what women assume all men want rather than what men actually want. For example some men like high heals but the majority of us would much prefer if our women never wore them. I have tried to tell every woman I have ever dated that and get a huge argument out of it. I know that many men feel this way though. But, ask any woman and she will tell you how she must wear them because all men desire that look. Most women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:49 PM
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I didn't take it literally but I saw where some did. I knew what you were saying and that you were exaggerating to make a point. Thats what men do. What I was attempting to do was basically say the same thing but translate it into something that the angry people wouldn't pick apart and try to disprove. Yes, when given a choice, men do value experience and memories over tangible items that will just wear out. Point and case. As a single man, I could easily be happy living in a studio apartment. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:48 PM
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In all honesty, I understand and agree with what you are saying. You did present it on a rather extreme perspective of the truth. That's all I was saying. Women can be very difficult to navigate. Many are very judgemental and confrontational. Without our sex drive, we would all probably just give up after the first few rejections. We do drive nicer cars, wear nicer clothes, strive harder at work and do many things to attract a mate. Gay men, do it for the same reasons, it's just not a female. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:31 PM
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Gay men are still out to impress their partners. It's just a male partner instead of a female. I do not totally agree with OP as his statements are taken to extreme and a little off. Men are not totally motivated and driven by women as the OP posts would imply but, it is a contributing factor. Instinctively we are driven to be more successful, dress better and make ourselves more appealing to attract a mate. Is it our end all be all? No, but to say it wasn't there or shouldn't be there would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:38 PM
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Of course you can't be bothered to find these imaginary stories. I have never read any stories about red pillars banging anyone every night. I suppose you can't be bothered about proving these imaginary stories either. Personally all I see from the red pill sub of reddit is making fun of how absolutely ridiculous the fds women are. I have read through the fds manual. It does give some very valid points but it also gives absolutely horrible advice. I know I am a HVM, even by FDS standards. I even…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:48 PM
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If you could share the links to the stories you are talking about, I would love to see them. Please do to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:45 PM
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I am a man and I agree with what you are saying to a point. When I meet a woman I expect that sex will not happen until she is ready and comfortable. I also have held off on sex when I wasn't sure if the relationship was going to last. I have been on the fence many times and did not want to be accused of just wanting sex, so I was the one that said no. Of course, I usually was ghosted for doing this. I found women don't like rejection when it comes to sex either. I even had a couple of them thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:14 PM
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To be honest, if you look at their ideology and then read their man bashing posts, ask yourself this. If a so called HVM did indeed run into one of these women, do you really think he would pick them? Many of those women are very overweight and very toxic. So they don't look good and their personality really sucks. What exactly is there to like? Low value or high value, no man wants to be around so.eone who is constantly suspicious of everything he does, no matter how long they are together. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:30 AM
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First of all, I am 53 years old and I do not know a single man who has ever shamed a woman for having sex. I do know many women who shame women for sex. I also know those women will say that men don't like it. I know many men who absolutely do not want and never have wanted a woman who is a virgin or anything close to it. To be fair, I don't date men and have no idea what they do behind closed doors. We do talk to each other though. I also don't do hook ups or casual sex and I hang out with guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:26 PM
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