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At the same time you have to weigh that against the other elements. If you're talking about a national hotline with anonymous calls about famous people, some already associated with or speculated about...you're gonna get a lot of crazies making claims compared to if you're talking joe in accounting. So it means less and requires more evidence. You'll also get people on a bandwagon in the rumor mill so even for Joe it could get sketchy if it's second hand information. I mean look at some of the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:14 AM
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More accurately: Men attach no bonus to it. It's not really a 'dont care' , that's just hyperbole No man's eyes light up because a woman has a prestige career and most men don't mind her making significantly less, which is why around 72% of marriages have a wife making less , 55% way less, and only 16% have her making a lot more. While a doctor might be likely to end up with another doctor, a man is more likely to brag that she's a yoga instructor or has an amazing ass than that she's a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:18 PM
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Nah. I don't consider seeing escorts dating, no matter how much pretense is involved to make it seem like thats not what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:33 AM
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Charts are included in the pew data for number of children as well. For one child there's about a 4-7% adjustment compared to zero children. It holds true regardless. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/04/st_2023.04.13_breadwinner-wives_03.png I recall some data that specifically with incomes in the first year of marriage as well...I'll see if I can refind it tomorrow but it was still very likely to show a gap if not more likely. No matter how you look at i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:06 AM
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You're thinking wrong. 55% of marriages have a husband making 60% of total household income, that's 50% more than the wife or higher. 16% have a wife in that position. So we have approximately 30% where the wife makes more. Approximately 70% where it's the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:04 AM
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Well, if you all end up marrying them you'll fall into the 30% range. The other 70% are marrying men making at least somewhat more money than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:36 AM
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It's not a comparison of men vs women. It's a comparison of percentages of married couples and what they each make. The cases where women make 150% or more compared to their husband are only 16% of marriages. Mean while 55% of marriages are husbands making way more money. A bit over 70% have the husband making at least somewhat more money. The whole point is the fact that the vast majority of women are married to men who make more money. And the situation is actually similar or worse in most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:34 PM
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No. That's complete nonsense unrelated to anything I was talking about or posted. Check the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:29 PM
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No you don't understand. So I'll ELI5 for you. If one makes 40k and one makes 60k That's 60/40. So if I make 60k and you make 40k how do our incomes compare? 60 is 150% of 40 Or 50% more than 40. Get it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:17 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ 60%+ of total household income. That's 150% comparatively. Or 50% more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:58 PM
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Kind of. They tend to date within their SES, not necessarily financial status. 55% of married couples in the US have the husband making 150% or more of what the wife makes. 16% the other way around. The younger they are the more likely he makes more. Basically making at least 15% more than her puts you in the range that over 70% of marriages fall into. Below that and you start to become an outlier. You can basically predict his marriage prospects by his income. You can basically predict hers by …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:48 PM
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It takes two or three generations for a broad change of mindset. Even in the 90's it was pretty common to hear of women going to college for their Mrs.degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:42 PM
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Or in different words they never were very sexually attracted to most men. They focus on relationships , and finances were an additional incentive to relationships. So it's more like they just still aren't. Now they just continue to see less and less financial incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:39 PM
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https://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_14/gs_14-33.html https://www.fanneylaw.com/n-c-g-s-14-33-assault-on-female.html They've apparently changed the automatic DV rule and it now does in fact require a qualifying relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:45 PM
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Virgins over 40 actually show gender parity. About 1%. It's too much of a outlier and extreme group.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:02 PM
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As I had said. But on a quick search it didn't take much to find a whole group of unequal laws. https://www.government.se/contentassets/9f4260f9e1724682aada19ba2dff181c/informationmaterial-swedens-work-to-combat-mens-violence-against-women-003.pdf Probably necessary, nevertheless unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:37 PM
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I mean 75-85% of conscripts in Sweden are men. Which is arguably more systematic than solid law since everyone must register but somewhere in the selection process there's obviously bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:53 PM
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Lack of a current war doesn't negate a law being discriminatory. Besides even mandatory service whether it's peacetime or not, which happens every day is discriminatory. Besides, Austria sent troops to Kosovo last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:46 PM
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You've contradicted yourself. But aside from that that's kind of the point. It becomes a unilateral decision after conception, which is an additional right. You kind of spelled it out in your last paragraph. See the child after conception gets no input on being aborted either and it's certainly not in the childs best interest. Your argument holds no weight. The reproduction has either already happened or it hasn't. The child either gets rights at conception or it doesn't. A conceived child with …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:40 PM
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No state has outlawed traveling for an abortion, but some states are trying to restrict people from helping others obtain out-of-state abortions, such as through "abortion trafficking" laws. Same same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:16 PM
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Then we could just look at Switzerland or the US, Austria, Belarus, Denmark, Colombia, Finland, South Korea,China, Chile, Bolivia, Brazil.....etc etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:10 PM
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It does however shake out as an additional reproductive right. Though that is just a physical reality. You can choose against reproducing, even after becoming pregnant by the same act you both chose to begin with. This is usually met with " just don't get anyone pregnant, that's your responsibility" which could be turned right back around on the women who became pregnant. " Just don't get pregnant to begin with, that's your responsibility" That's just life though, the physical reality demands th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:50 PM
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Yeah, that's gonna be fairly difficult unless we bring in the whole system around parenthood. Most discrimination against men is more policy or shakeout than law. I could give you two generalized and one specific. General: Selective service laws. General: Many laws around sexual assault protect female victims far more than male victims, regardless of the perpetrators sex. Many are specifically worse in male offenders. Including a lack of sentencing guidelines for female offenders. Specific: In N…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:29 PM
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So you're saying that you figure a lot of women only like men for their utility and you would see dating as pointless if you were in the position men are in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:42 PM
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"wouldn't do that to a man" is silly. However on a comparison basis people actually usually vastly underestimate the difference. Eg. For me to find a man who was the same relative difference as myself and my gf he would be: 7'1" -7'2" 300lbs 30-50% stronger on a pound for pound basis With bones so much bigger and stronger that they make up 5% more of his body mass. Some of that being concentrated at impact points. Just about double my lung capacity. The Patriots Wesley Britt with some performanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:37 PM
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Then shift it to your scenario. You got a book and a shitty car and changed spark plugs and now wonder why you aren't a competent mechanic or even one thats capable of some simple diagnoses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:13 AM
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And then there's that. People who have a woe is me attitude and some excuse why nothing will ever work. That's even more likely why nobody wants to battle through detailed explanations with you. You refuse to meet them part way and attempt to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:04 AM
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That's because it's kind of like asking " how I do engineering?" Or " how do I work on cars?" It would require that level of study or practice to have your answer if you're completely clueless. Could probably be done well in a couple years for people who at least have a clue. So youre going to get general statements. Like "well start by getting a crappy car and a book and some tools" You've done that and changed some spark plugs and now you're wondering why you're not a master mechanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:11 PM
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There are rules, they just come with tons of ifs ands and buts that require constant adjustment. Not to mention preparation. The variables are near infinite. It's a big tree to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:10 PM
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Sure .lol 75% overlap that's all. The remaining 25% needs other factors to explain it. But the better question is, if it increases the risk factor at all...what is anyone's motivation to gamble on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:05 PM
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That's just one study, there are plenty. And nobody cares if it's causation... correlation is enough to be a strong predictor. In fact the closest we get to causation is low conscientiousness as a personality trait. In a society that stigmatizes promiscuity it becomes an indicator of low conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:00 PM
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Promiscuity is empirically linked to infidelity. https://www.athensjournals.gr/social/2017-4-4-3-Pinto.pdf Both promiscuity and infidelity are linked to low conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:37 PM
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Ah yes, like how it peaked 15 years ago and declined ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:13 AM
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And the majority of those are over 50 so they aren't stay at home dad couples, more likely early retirees.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:43 AM
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Lots? No, there really aren't. 16% of marriages in the US have a wife as primary or sole provider. Just 6% are sole providers. 55% ( majority) have a husband as primary or sole provider. Primary status means making at least 150% of what the spouse makes. its not the old people either, the younger the couple the more likely they have a male provider. It's actually you with the skewed perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:35 AM
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You can chock most complaints up to incongruity between words and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:11 PM
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Haha....you'd be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:07 PM
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Yeah that's not helping either. Life decisions based on woo is a major turnoff, an indicator of crazy, and props up the victim of life mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:12 PM
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So it sounds like maybe everything you say is " woe is me" and you have an excuse for why any solutions offered won't work. Nobody likes a victim of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:09 PM
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And gamble on paying child support. Plus have to go through the adjustment process to all of that. Its really the only way you're in a situation where neither stands to benefit from breaking the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:06 PM
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Alladin. He destroys Jafar who was trying to show Jasmine who he really was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:42 PM
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I can tell you some things that go towards it, though whether they really offset it is questionable. They tend to be more responsible and independent, less selfish. Less time and energy for games. Time constraints tend to not only easily demonstrate how she values you but also tend to make her less likely to cheat or be out clubbing and shit. Everyone with kids has had plenty of lessons in humility. Many are tube tied or otherwise had their kids and they're done so no pressure for you to be lock…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:19 PM
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I hate to tell you this but widows come with the exact same negatives outside of it being their choice. They also tend to come with the additional negative that you will never measure up to the now infallible ghost of their husband. You can't assign fault but it's no better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:58 PM
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Happens all the time. Hasn't bothered me since I was about 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:50 PM
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The Great Gatsby consistently ranks in the top 5 novels, of any kind, of all time. Pretty much eclipses everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:23 PM
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Idk if I tagged you correctly but there's a shortlist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:41 PM
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They're typically tragic. Sometimes involve forbidden love. The fault in our stars. Great Gatsby. Memoirs of a Geisha. The horse whisperer. Gabriel's inferno. u/mandoa_sky
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:39 PM
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Princess treatment is getting everything for doing nothing. So never.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:16 PM
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Yes and if it were a .01 to .1 it would be ten times the risk and still not be substantial when compared to other factors. When simply drinking represents a risk 3x as substantial people are over representing the risk as a deterring factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:34 PM
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Yeah I guess what I'm calling substantial is in comparison to other factors. People tend to paint the picture that it's this practically automatic thing when in reality the majority either have a situation, an exposure, or the child will have an exposure with far more significant risks that they never even thought twice about. It mostly comes from historical context where your cousins were actually far more likely to be even more closely related because the parents of the sibling parents would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:23 PM
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I'm seeing 2% to 4% across first cousins as an average but second cousins being between no significant difference to about a 1% increase depending on source. Broadly considered insignificant for second degree relation. Both are less significant than simply having someone in family history with an issue or exposure to mutagens like alcohol. I mean I'm more on the side of , it's gross, complicated and unnecessary than I am the scare factor of genetic risk given a single instance. For instance we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:48 PM
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No kidding. Men admit it instead of trying to dress it up to best suit their virtuous sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 06:49 PM
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It actually doesn't, I recently found when looking into this. It takes multiple successions of even first cousin marriage with close relations in each generation to substantially increase risks of genetic disorders. Still..why do it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:58 PM
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They do. Or even more often sex bomb. Try very very hard in the beginning to make themselves seem like they're a lot more sexual than they are bc men want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:34 PM
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I'm willing to bet you've never even once experienced opening up to a woman as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:40 AM
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I'm so tired of the subject im not going to address the hopeless woo portion of this. What I will say is I feel the same way and look for a balance. I don't want a prude either. Of course nothing I've said reflects how I wish it was or what my preferences are in particular. I simply explained why it is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:06 PM
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Gee idk if we're generalizing I don't think you'll find much support for the statement " all women want is sex". And yeah people routinely spread specific insults to other people meaninglessly. I'm assuming we're speaking in good faith here and not trying to overcomplicate the points by sidetracking to irrelevant bullshit that you know very well is insincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:23 PM
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Wow I really have to spell out the basics for you guys huh? Would you call woman who is selective a slut? So I guess it involves not being very selective doesn't it? All we have to assume is that she wants more than sex but isn't getting there. If she doesn't, well, clearly thats failing the imperative without even trying. For a man if you are desirable enough to be a slut you can have whatever you like. By the same token a man who proposes or hands over z bunch money, time, effort to every woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:06 PM
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Annnnnd you managed to still miss the point. It takes a bunch of positive attributes so it says you possess many positive attributes, ones that are almost universally desirable. It outright marks you as a more desirable man then most others. For a woman it marks as simply not worth as much investment as others. To boot one is actually accomplishing your biological imperative ( be selected), one is actually failing at your biological imperative ( be selective).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:45 PM
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Such a simple concept that its almost painful to explain and I feel like I'm explaining money to a mentally handicapped child. Wanna be a manwhore.....no problem , youll just need a litany of uncommon desirable attributes. Wanna be a slut as a woman....no problem, just drop all your standards. One is an accomplishment or at least says you possess a lot of positive traits. The other says you're a woman who has no standards. Basically a failure. One is about as difficult as becoming a doctor and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:13 PM
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Because it doesn't benefit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:51 PM
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I love sluts, just don't want to try to be in a monogamous relationship with one or find out later that she is one when I thought otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:32 PM
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Leisure time is a poor indicator regardless. In several categories men come up to both spending more time on work and more time on leisure. We can compare work time (paid, household, and childcare) and it all comes out pretty even. The closest proxy you might find in comparing liberal vs conservative is just looking at data for couples where the mother is not employed. (Traditional households) Still comes out pretty even with men coming up at an hour more work when household chores, childcare an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:07 PM
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Turns out that data on single vs cohabiting vs married isn't too difficult to find. At least when looking at adults with children. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/ Adding up paid work, housework, and childcare... Married looks like 55 total work hours for men and 54 for women. Cohabiting 48 total for men 51 for women. Single 50 and 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:47 AM
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I mean pretty much everything is. Your reward for work is quality of life. Whatever you consider to be quality of life. So yeah if those guys are like " no matter how hard I work I'll never have a family and that's all I really want so fuck it" that's their prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:54 PM
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Until women are as easy as men or men are as selective as women this will not change. It would take women having just as high a sex drive on the whole or mens libido plummeting. Because until that happens it will be a difficult accomplishment or something that requires many desirable characteristics for a man and it will be so easy that it's actually harder to not be a hoe for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:22 PM
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Well it actually can be criminal but it is typically defined differently in that case. Class 2 misdemeanor. Workplace regulations and laws typically follow that it either needs to be egregious or the person needs to make it known it's unwelcome and tell them to stop. That's neither here nor there though with regards to the discussion of whether it's rewarded. As I've stated , I approach 20 women ( maybe I'm even vulgar about it) 1 sleeps with me. I was rewarded for sexually harassing 19 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:01 PM
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From the Cambridge English dictionary Sexual harassment: unwanted or offensive sexual attention, suggestions, or talk, especially from an employer or other person in a position of power What's unwanted or offensive can obviously be decided at will by the person subject to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:27 PM
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So? I still got rewarded for harassing 17 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:15 PM
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In fact it is. In its simplest and strictest definition. As long it's unwelcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:49 PM
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Sure it is. I made 20 advances. Three slept with me. I harassed 17 women and got laid 3 times for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:45 PM
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You realize the definition of harassment is unwanted advances yeah? So advances are rewarded. They aren't even defined as harassment until after the fact if they're unwanted. In other words it's a gamble, with a potential reward. Advances of both kinds are thereby incentivized.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:27 PM
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I think she's just outing herself as trolling. Overweight John Oliver with a bad haircut vs JCPenney catalog guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:56 PM
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Avg is obviously not sexy. Id say he's a bit below average....given the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:52 PM
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Sometimes it is later and there are no good warning signs, sometimes it isn't and there are plenty that are ignored. Doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. Of women who experience documented abuse only 45% have left that partner within a year. About the same as a random control group would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:50 PM
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Nah. I went from hopeless romantic to asshole. I looked the same. Guess when I got a lot more interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:44 PM
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Yes to the harassment. Clearly advances are rewarded and by and large expected to be the mans responsibility. If they're wanted they're rewarded. If they're unwanted, they're harassment. You might get your hand slapped for reaching for the cookie but if you don't reach for it you can't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:41 PM
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So you're just saying something completely irrelevant? Outside the scope of dating your dating league doesn't determine your worth. Ok, and that matters when talking about dating because?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:15 PM
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That in NO WAY means that someone that's hot has more value as a person. Even this is arguable in a sense. Basically everyone in a lower league is attracted to all the leagues above them so it in fact does increase your value on the dating market. Without even accounting for pretty privilege and halo effect which can kind of increase your value in most interactions. Your last sentence in fact just proves the point that the pushback is almost entirely virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:07 PM
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Pretty simple concept really. The more parameters you add the more likely you'll have to compromise. If you're not looking for long term you can sacrifice all kinds of things in favor of hotness. Nevermind the fact that if she just wants to fuck she can pull a much hotter guy for one night than she could long term so why wouldn't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:59 AM
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That it doesn't matter if it's casual or serious, most of the time her primary goal is just getting the guy to like her. Feeling desired by someone desirable. Same goes for guys generally. If I want an O I can jack off, if I want a warm body I could get a prostitute. Only difference is guys generally want to be wanted sexually and use everything else to get there. Women generally want to be wanted for everything else and use sex to get there. Me liking them is generally all the motivation they n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:20 PM
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Just an observation. It's usually not primarily " he's cute , I want to fuck him" it's generally " he's cute, I want to interact with him and make him like me"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:49 PM
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I can tell you why they generally do. New guy tingles. Attention and the thrill of the potential catch. Even when they don't want a relationship they want to know I would. It's often not primarily about the sex, it's often primarily about figuring out if they could lock me down if they wanted to and sometimes just the fun of the interactions and not knowing what will happen. Basically even when it's casual it's still about the relationship dynamic primarily. If the sex is good it just tends to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:37 PM
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Im prochoice and this is still really just unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:36 PM
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Just comes down to whether you come off as whiny. You can have any disposition you want, if your " misogyny" is whiny youre out. If you don't have any, you're at a disadvantage because you just seem like a doormat. If it's just kinda snide, you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:12 PM
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Doesn't matter though. Can't even count the number of times a woman has grinned, said I was a " he-man woman hater" and then fucked me. Completely comes down to whether you're whiny or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:08 PM
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5 years? I can go back 5 days and show you examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:31 PM
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She was saying that she would pay him for the sex not pay him with sex. She's made a few pro male prostitution posts in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:11 PM
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I'll just address the most painfully obvious and the flagrant garbage point here even though most of this could be easily shredded. Custody. Your bullshit study from Massachusetts. Yeah for starters it's a single state study from 1989 so not even applicable. Second it uses the word "custody" the way we'd think of visitation. Literally any amount of time granted was considered "custody" in its definitions. Third your 79% number based on that study's data refers to transitions from zero visitation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:54 PM
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Oh please...even in the absolute worst case in couples with documented intimate partner violence like 44% leave within the year. If that's not less than a control group it pretty close. This is just more bias on your part, thinking women won't get with bad boys and then that they won't stay. People pretty much stay as long as you make them feel something, even if a big portion of it is a bad something. The vast majority only leave when they're bored or someone more exciting comes along. Whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:04 PM
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Eh, you gotta get started first before you can go long term. I do fine regardless of what I choose. It's not different with pretty women with poor attitudes. Someone will put up with whoever you are as long as you're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:12 PM
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Ah yes the mythical misogyny detector which also seems to completely malfunction when someone looks good. I guarantee I get away with shit that a lot of guys wouldn't dream of and still get pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:44 PM
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Nobody cares. It's just all the bullshit women try to sell to the contrary. Oh it doesn't matter who he is he better not do x. I have rules and they apply to everyone. Just put in more effort. Blah blah blah, yeah nobody's buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:43 PM
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That's where you'd be wrong. There's not even a debate that it's true. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4784873/#:~:text=Girls%20were%2019%25%20less%20active,among%20boys%20but%20not%20girls. https://www.firstfiveyears.org.au/child-development/why-boys-wrestle-play-fight-and-fidget https://ijbnpa.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12966-023-01496-0#:~:text=Gender%20is%20frequently%20observed%20to,in%20subsequent%20health%20%5B27%5D. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brain-diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:22 PM
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Its one of the leading theories why boys have trouble. Not enough physical activity. Some study I saw showed a ridiculous improvement with just a little extra movement for boys and essentially no effect for the girls. Its known they tend to have higher energy expenditure from infancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:01 PM
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UK studies say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:50 PM
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In the 1950's a school schedule was typically 8am-3pm but with a 20 minute morning recess, a 1.5 hour lunch during which many students walked home for lunch, and another 20 minute afternoon recess. PE classes were actually pretty intense training. So basically school was 4 hours of desk time and the rest was moderate to intense physical activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:48 PM
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Well...when I went looking the first study I found was from the UK. http://empathygap.uk/?p=437#:~:text=The%20study%20showed%20that%20pupils,examiner%20or%20a%20female%20teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:25 PM
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Go to the gym is literally the absolute best single piece of advice one could possibly get. You'll get healthier, you'll get more confident, you'll get better looking, you may even make friends or get hit on eventually. Exercise is the most effective treatment there is for depression. Etc. This will absolutely outshine any other element. Personality is a cherry on top anyhow, and one that will be looked at through rose colored glasses if you look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:20 PM
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5% would actually be a really really good number. 1-3% is actually pretty successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:08 PM
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Just to nitpick. Half false. The largest cohort of US marriages is husband as primary provider making at least 51% more and up. Second largest is as you mentioned. Third is husband as sole provider. So usually he's making more than 50% more but no he's he's not usually making 3x. Again though, the relevancy to whether they split contribution by hours or dollars isn't here. So this is really an aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:23 PM
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Even if I had you'd still be wrong. 44% of women in the US are considered working class, already a minority and only 70% out of those are employed full time. You could have accurately said " some of us argue that we are more tired from work" which would be pretty irrelevant to what you had responded to...but at least true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:40 PM
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No I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:35 PM
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Uh huh. More women hold more physically demanding jobs than men.....now I've seen it all as far as ridiculous claims go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:30 PM
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A lot more men work a lot more physically demanding jobs so I'd say that's more like a really rather specific exception . I doubt the majority of women can even deign to claim their job is more physically demanding. It's not exactly a women's forte.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:52 PM
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Counterpoint. The majority of women want to count marital contribution by hours, not income. Eg. They'll argue til they are blue in the face that if she works 40 hours and so does he but he makes triple the income they are still equally contributing. If he only works 10 hours a week and makes as much as she does in 40 the majority of household chores should still fall to him instead of 50/50 split. Etc. Communist in personal life. Most are corrupt communists within a marriage. His is ours, mine …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:34 PM
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You might want to review dependant statements and comparative phrases and how they are used and what they mean. The statement " personality matters more than looks" does not agree with your explanation. It's a comparative phrase and it places personality above looks independently of one another. If I say my favorite color is blue and the color of a car is more important than what car it is then everyone can rightfully call me full of shit when I pick a red Ferrari over a blue minivan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:16 PM
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Sure. It's just not what is portrayed. "Personality matters more than looks" is what's often put out there and that does not match your statement ( which is reality imo)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:28 PM
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Yeah, which makes sense. The rhetoric often put out is simply " personality matters more" which is misleading at best. If you're not above bar then it doesn't really matter and if you are, you still get personality bonuses based on looks. ( Luckily for me)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:52 PM
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It's not a ton different when you factor in halo effect on that personality. People tricking themselves into thinking actual personality was a bigger factor than it was and then presenting how you just did helps destroy the credibility of that claim. So the reality ends up being more like women just also need to experience action and personality before it all kicks in. Then they think that's what did it but the what that personality would be interpreted as was already painted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:25 PM
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Because women constantly talk shit about looks not being that important and it's so much more about personality. Some idiots actually believe them. Tbf though I think for the most part if there's any surprise involved it's surprise at either them admitting it or at the audacity of their claims when their actions show the obvious truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:49 PM
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In that case it's exacerbated. The younger the couple the more likely the husband is to be sole or primary provider. In fact at 55+ she's twice as likely (22%) to be sole or primary earner than at 25-34 (11%) That trend extends across the board. Kind of obvious, women with young children are much more likely to be a stay at home than in older couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:31 AM
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In the US 23.5% of marriages have the husband as sole provider. 31.5% he makes at least 150% of what she makes. So in 55% of marriages income isn't even close. His Median income in the latter 96k hers 30k That is the most common marriage arrangement there is. Followed by one where they make a similar income with the median at about 60k each. Seems your claim isn't supported statistically. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:10 AM
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And they tend to have more children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:35 PM
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So the same reason women get shitty with sluts Diminishing the value of pussy and lessening your control of the market. Women in the west have no shortage of suitors and nobody cares if you lose the ones you supposedly didn't want anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:06 PM
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It's just power play. If these guys can get it somewhere else it diminishes these women's value and power. Like anything else, why would anyone want to manipulate a market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:51 PM
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Depends on who's being dishonest. If she's fooling him in to thinking it's not about this and she'll stay forever out if love blah blah then he's being taken advantage of. If everybody knows what's up..yeah fair trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:47 PM
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Just a partner with common goals. Friendship is still more individualistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:24 PM
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There's no debating crazy. This take is just that nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:09 PM
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I mean pawn shops even. $5k jewelry store ring is gonna cost about $200. Plus the pricing scale is going to be generally more reflective of the actual value when selecting. Unless you're looking for extreme gawdyness you probably won't even be able to spend over $500. Personally I made one but that's a whole other ball of wax ( partly literally) and I got stones and metal by buying pawn shop stuff that was missing bits or broken or really dated designs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:25 PM
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RP is over the top with shit and too absolutist and has leaned from a moral pragmatism into actual misogyny at this point but my worldview still shifted and aligned with a lot of the general idea before it existed. When that shift came I became wildly successful with women. I can't name a time because the times are very very numerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:17 PM
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They mostly fit the average innate tendencies we have and im fine with them. It irks me to see them fought just to be fought or because that's the popular thing to do or someone has something to prove. That said I don't see them as prescriptive. So do what you want and I'll do what I want. It also irks me to see people telling other people how they need to be. They're norms, not rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:39 AM
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When it happens it basically centers around being spoiled. We already know women are treated with kid gloves and people go out of their way to be nice. Pretty women x100 on that. It's evident too when you treat a pretty woman normal, she will think youre being rude. Her baseline is people kissing her feet so her reality tends to be skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:02 AM
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Lol. Well. I was married ten years. My count is somewhere around 150. I spent a little while as a gigolo and I've done a handful of porns. One for Vivid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:52 PM
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Hmm, well, you basically described me and yet according to the subs polls I'm one the top most successful like 5-10 men to visit this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:02 PM
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You clearly didn't. Leaving your inability to find the data presented within aside.... You seemed to have focused solely on the speculative portion and then made your own interpretation. Three proposed , untested hypotheses for why the results are what they are. First - we probably think gendered activities are sexy ( this ones kind of a no brainer. Things we identify with the opposite sex often become attractive to us.) The second was viewing it as a way to be a good wife. ( I guess you interpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:17 PM
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I mean the concept extends further than that. Women are attracted to sexist men. Traditional housework arrangements =more sex: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4273893/ Clear attraction to benevolent sexism , which hey what do you know, correlates positively with hostile sexism: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29957149/ We could go on and on with this theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:00 AM
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Getting behind them is how it's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:23 AM
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Well for one , from the outside looking in , a lot of people can see things that the person involved refuses to see. When you aren't invested it's easier. Same as potentially buying something you're excited about. Two, ever seen guys going for women who are obviously problematic and it's super easy for you to see as a woman but they don't? The same thing happens in reverse. Same gender is usually better at interpreting the words and actions of same gender because they have the insight of some si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:22 PM
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If I was a woman I'd vet like a woman obviously, so no. Could I vet for one 10x better than she can...yeah, in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:13 PM
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I do exactly that and yeah it's fine. Where it becomes problematic is that elsewhere typically wants more. Nowthe original relationship is threatened if she's also got more going for her than sex. There's definitely less motivation for the original one to really stay the main one and so it can switch places. Either way if she doesn't want me and someone else does I let them have me and let the cards fall where they may.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:24 PM
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No, you'd have to think that a parasocial relationship is an actual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:55 AM
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By that same logic all guys initiate, since they have to show up, be around, be attractive and look her direction in the first place. So dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:32 PM
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Lol, women approach by letting approaches happen. That counts right? Gtfoh. Choosing signals is by no means initiating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:48 PM
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Two people who would be most comfortable sharing their social security number for background.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:49 PM
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Oh I'm sure there are many instances that would actually rise to the level of either criminal or civil liability, just that so far the very few cases that have been filed haven't. I have no doubt there are instances that could have been a lawsuit won had someone filed. It wouldn't even need to be a fake text chat. A real one, connected to identifying the individual would break invasion of privacy laws. Defamation ends up being difficult since proving false statement of fact is difficult but it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:36 AM
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Easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:10 AM
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I'm not going state by state nor scenario by scenario here. Here's a basic guide about text messages. https://arbitrationagreements.org/is-it-illegal-to-share-text-messages/#:~:text=The%20repercussions%20of%20sharing%20text,could%20also%20come%20into%20play. Then you have copyright laws. Then you have doxxing laws. Then you have invasion of privacy laws which will apply to pictures that were sent with the reasonable expectation of privacy and not just copied from public domain. Same for texts. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:49 PM
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Last time I saw it pop up heavily was in datingover40.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:08 PM
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I don't need to find anyone at this point. But if you look at threads about red flags, it's a common one listed and agreed on by a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:04 PM
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That may be you but one the common items in women's red flags list is not having social media or even seeming to have a low presence on what he does have. I think it's seen as a sign he's a player basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:48 PM
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The implication is that they're doing it for the attention of others, and since this is PPD I would assume the attention of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:45 PM
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True for extremely limited temperate climate zones. False for about 85% of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:21 PM
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I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:07 PM
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Sharing private photos or conversations with identifying information is in fact not legal. I don't know of any state where it's criminal but it certainly qualifies for civil liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:00 PM
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It's already been shown that you can fabricate a man , post him up and multiple women will claim he assaulted them or cheated on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:56 PM
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It's already been shown that you can completely fabricate a man on these apps and multiple women will make accusations of cheating or assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:53 PM
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Not really. I could easily sign in as my mother or my ex wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:50 PM
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So far every lawsuit resulting from AWDTSG Facebook groups have failed with the courts deciding that the women's statements were only opinion rather than false statements of fact. Pics won't matter if they are publicly available already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:47 PM
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At best it's a red flag for them. If a woman uses it you know she's batshit. Every woman I know also thinks unverified gossip groups are just begging to be used for stalking, harassment, abuse etc. Same goes for AWDTSG groups. I know some women like the entertainment value and that's about it. In fact I was just reading a thread on askwomenover30 and so far that's their consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:40 PM
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This is somewhat a self sustaining vicious circle. I think a lot of women think this way and the result is that when they do approach it's because they're either seeking casual or don't care either way so they don't have this worry. 90%+ of women who approached me would fall into that category so now I almost assume if I'm approached she's DTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:34 PM
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Idk, didn't seem as cold as all that. Every relationship is transactional anyhow. It's just a matter of whether you're trading the exact same things or one thing for another. They were both happy for longer than a lot of relationships so....idk. Maybe in that case the dynamic was closer to what you see in arranged marriages?? Beats me, I just know it was nothing like people tend to describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:26 PM
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Flooded with attention is a heavy exaggeration but it sure as hell got a lot easier and more even. My experience matches with the age chart here really well. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ I don't think it's a result of much of anything except that the attention women are able to draw starts to even out with mens at about 33. I noticed the difference starting at around 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:52 PM
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I have a sample size of one here but it's applicable. Ukrainian woman I knew pretty well. In The US for 20 yrs or so. Fairly good looking, husband was very much not. Self labeled as having been a mail order bride. She has three kids with him and they were together for 16 years. I asked her what made her do it to begin with. She said she wanted to come to the US and she was ready for children and chose a practical husband. I asked why she stayed beyond her citizenship requirements. She said she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:20 PM
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No, one should factor it skewing the data a lot. Men simply can't have higher average body counts than women. Only distribution can be skewed. Take a room of 10 men and 10 women. If one guy fucks all ten women the average body count in the room is one for everybody. In fact it would mean most men have a lower body count than most of the women. Most studies do limit it to sexually active individuals though so it would mean it's long suggested that the concentration is skewed to some men while man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:49 AM
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Not really. It's about emotional connection and what feelings are elicited. Basically how qualities are presented rather than what the qualities are. So physicality isn't presented for aesthetic or direct sex appeal as much as to elicit an emotion. Big strong guy being badass doesn't do much, unless it's to be protective or something. Handsome dude standing there vs handsome dude making something pretty. Often motivations vs results. Easy way to think of it is through some simplified tropes. Mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:24 AM
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Androgynous is a bit of a stretch even for Chalemet. Pubescent maybe, but then that's not a surprise. Humans like neoteny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:05 PM
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Wouldn't that be very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:05 PM
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Uhh, " I can fix her" is just an ironic use referring to " I can fix him". The former was never really a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:04 PM
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Lol. They don't see it that way even if that's what's happening. They think any guy who will hook up with them is in their league. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:43 PM
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People don't just sit around staring at each other until they have sex. Damn, I've been doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:14 PM
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No not really. They didn't account for jealousy. It's eventually problematic in every occurrence where these things are tried. A little bump in the casual sex market but it wouldn't have changed it drastically. The effects wore off mostly anyhow. If STDs didn't exist we'd have more casual sex but the dynamics wouldnt change a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:26 AM
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That chart shows a peak message distribution of 32%. Your statement and your chart bear zero resemblance to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:18 AM
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Men rate women on an almost perfect bell curve. Women rate men disproportionately poorly. We know exactly who's idea of equal is skewed. https://www.betonit.ai/p/the-typical-man-disgusts-the-typical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:59 PM
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I think you're confusing me for someone else. But aside from that, that info is in fact included in the full study.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:25 PM
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Nah, movies with popcorn and drinks cost that. Run of the mill bs restraunt.... $24 plates $4 drinks + gratuity and no appetizer is $80. Get alcohol or an appetizer it's $100. Dinner and a movie can close in on $200 pretty easy. Concert, rock climbing, mini golf, paddle boarding, kayaking... Any of those can be 100+ easily and those are nothing crazy. Cutting it in half is pretty significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:14 PM
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I wouldn't say insignificant. Regular dates easily a hundred bucks. Once a week that's a car payment. There are too many to say it leans to one side of the political spectrum anyhow and definitely to say it's mostly trad types.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:35 PM
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Sure, but the vast majority of Americans still think men should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:28 PM
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You should probably take the time to read and digest something before you argue it. Maybe at least ask the basic questions. So if we're looking at categories of paid work, housework, childcare and their combined totals come out about even but men have more leisure time why is that? Women spend that extra time sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:44 AM
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Seems to have almost no effect on the issue of what they think of who should pay for the first date. In fact it seems to have little or no effect on most forms of what is termed benevolent sexism. Men and women of all stripes , especially women, love to uphold those gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:24 AM
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Only women think that really matters. I'll clear that up for you. All prostate stimulation does is make getting off feel different. Really just feels like you orgasm a bit more forcefully. For most men it doesn't do anything to actually get you off in its own right. Meanwhile there's very little separation between the vagina and the anus, so every part of the clitoris apart from the glans can be stimulated in a fairly similar way with anal. There's more pleasure to be had from anal for a woman t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:19 PM
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The third says 40% do it every time. Do any make it seem "very rare" ?....didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:47 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:47 AM
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No it isn't. https://www.womens-health.com/how-common-is-oral-sex-statistics https://www.the-generous-husband.com/2016/03/10/most-viewed-3/ https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/life/sex-and-relationships/often-men-oral-sex-519198
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:46 AM
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Yeah, but it'll never happen. Women don't think that way or have a lot of desire, what there is isn't spontaneous. Men would play into it harder than you'd be comfortable with. On top of all that men are just way too useful in all the dirty infrastructure work to lose them to looks based industries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:38 AM
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Few would choose to receive anal though, of either sex. So it doesn't make sense. I mean I'd love to convince women it's the same thing since you like to make that parallel so much, but when it's your ass on the line you change your tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:11 PM
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I honestly believe if there were no stigma at all , dudes would give each other blowies without being attracted, just out of pity or bonding. Samurai are probably the best example of such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:07 PM
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Sure Since you specified strangers; Hell sometimes I like to fuck less attractive women just because I like how out of their minds they go for me. It's fun to feel super desired even if I'm not into it for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:03 PM
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Because they're dumb. Or at least uncalibrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:41 PM
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A 2017 review found that while severe health effects are associated with higher paternal age, the total increase in problems caused by paternal age is low https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect If you start going into the nitty gritty then all kinds of things show up with varying levels of increased risks. However most of the time the threshold for APA ( advanced paternal age) is age 45 or 50 compared to 35 for AMA. Aside from that it's really just common sense. Men can father their…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:14 AM
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I would guess that's an error in the way we define misogyny. I'm jaded, I've seen it all, I hate the fluff and BS women often try to sell to make themselves look good. I don't hate women, I just know who they are. I can say the same for men, but I don't nearly as often want anything from them since I'm not trying to fuck them. Humans are selfish but saying so about men is fine while saying so about women is "misogyny" I'm sure that a lot of my bluntness would be categorized as misogyny. I've bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:52 PM
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Why wouldn't I? One , half the fun is pleasing her, that's what gets me really going. Two, just because I'm not looking to start a relationship or marry the woman doesn't mean I hate her or don't like her. Im not worse to her than a guy I partied with once or had a fun conversation with about a mutual interest. I mean shit, casual doesn't mean not a human I kinda like. Even if I don't really like their personality I still care about them as a person. I'm looking for limited time fun not looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:24 PM
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Or rather doesn't lust for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:16 PM
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I’m so infatuated that I find myself mostly attracted to people who look like or remind me of my partner, lol. This is a big thing. Common for men. Eg. I know when I fell for a curly haired woman, suddenly curly haired women got a bonus, and I never really liked it but it became a thing after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:46 PM
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I'm on board with the women here so far. It's her mindset going into it. Is she actually wanting casual? Is she able to compartmentalize? Is she knowing what she wants and going for it or is she being tempted into it in the moment? Every woman I know that actually sought out casual with a clear goal or at least an open mindset had a good experience. Even the disappointing ones weren't a big deal and the better ones were great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:39 PM
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I'd say breaking the rules for an unfair advantage. That's whynits called cheating. Which is also why I can't call it cheating if one partner is consistently declining the other. They aren't getting an unfair gain or advantage. Unfaithful yes, cheating...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:12 AM
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In that scenario I absolutely am pumping and dumping some. If I gotta wait, they're just put in the rotation til I get what I want. That's my point. They won't know how they're categorized unless I let them. There's small clues, but not what you were saying. In fact several are exact opposite. Im actually more pressed if I actually want you for a gf. Granted you have to at least be someone I want more than just because "eh, it was easy" to even other going in the rotation for more than three mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:35 PM
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Priority isn't determined by who I am or am not having sex with. If anything the 2-3 women I'm already having sex with and can get easily for Netflix and chill take lower priority sometimes. Whether I'm fucking them or not priority is simply who I want to fuck most. Could be someone I've been with, could be someone I havent. I'm gonna use a general you because you're not my fault audience, not because I'm unaware you're a guy. I'll have no problem making plans with you. If anything spontaneous s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:58 PM
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And I agree, if I'm playing I can wait. Outside of that, I can see I'm going to have to go point by point here. Again you're hitting some opposite behavior. Gimme a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:07 PM
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While I agree with your point as to just keeping her warm, as a definite intermittent fuck boy, in my opinion most of your bullets are either lacking or completely opposite and wrong. Some are good. How long I'll spin you keeping you warm I wouldn't put as desperation, quite the opposite really, I'm getting it plenty of other places so I can wait it's no problem. In fact the higher patience level may be more a sign of how consistently I'm getting it elsewhere. How long I'll wait is mostly just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:43 AM
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Yes. I answered yes. Your duty is simply not to refuse and leave eligibility to be determined by the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:07 PM
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At this point essentially every man alive over 18 has had to register. Why not women? I don't know the numbers, but a great many women I've seen actually support extending the draft to them. They recognize that they asked to be allowed full service opportunities and got them, and recognize how hypocritical it is to turn around and refuse on the grounds that they are women. You're either capable or you aren't. Voluntary refusal is what gets your rights stripped, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:58 PM
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Wrong. These disqualify you from service. They do not disqualify or exempt you from registering. Once you have registered and not willingly refused service, you have fulfilled your duty. Sitting back and saying you shouldn't have to while simultaneously arguing that you are fully capable is just asinine and plainly voluntarily refusing service.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:41 PM
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That would be lovely if it could always work that way. While that's fine in the best of times, it's dysfunctional in the worst of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:58 PM
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I'd say just make it all the same. Required to register no matter what. Subject to the same possibility of draft. That's how we do it even with men who wouldn't be eligible for service anyhow. ( 12 yr veteran btw) Rights are stripped when someone refuses ( since it's a felony) but they aren't given when one volunteers ( haven't been for a long time)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:40 PM
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Not really, it's just tangential. All kinds of things have factored in over the years. The one near universal constant is that refusing service could strip your voting rights if you had them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:18 PM
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The one surefire way to lose your voting rights if you had them throughout history has been to refuse service. That's pretty heavily linked, one might even say directly. One common way to gain them has been to volunteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:14 AM
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No. You were willing and cooperated and fulfilled your duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:48 AM
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If youre ineligible to register, yes you do lose the right to vote. The only way to be ineligible is to be confined to an institution, so you're already determined to be incompetent. If you refuse the draft, it's a felony. Felons can't vote. You don't have to serve, but you have to register for the draft system. Once you've done that, you've done it, you've fulfilled your requirement at least until there is an active draft. If there is one, then you're only losing your voting rights if you refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:34 AM
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Really? Because the majority of US and UK history says otherwise. US: Property ownership was a requirement from 1776-1830's for most states and for some up to 1856. Land bounty's for service were offered from 1776-1855. Draft resistors during the civil war...imprisonment...no voting. Deserters....death...no voting. Refusing the draft is still a felony, guess what felons can't do? Vote. UK, no voting for prisoners. When there was conscription....hey guess what, prison was a consequence for refusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:23 AM
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The only men who have never been required to register are those confined to an institution. Ever other man alive has been required to register. So that's a pretty moot point. Even disabled men are required to register. Their eligibility for actual service would be determined later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:18 AM
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As far back as ancient Rome serving in the military could gain you voting rights and refusing service could lose you voting rights. Back when you needed to own land to vote....guess what one of the most common ways to gain land ownership was? Yep, military service. They've been tied together forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:07 AM
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Been with well over 100 women. I'm 7.5" without a rager. I always have to watch myself during doggy. Sometimes cowgirl isn't as comfortable as it could be for them. Sometimes I gotta watch not pushing against bottom enough to pop off the side of the cervix. That just gets a goosed reaction, or a little pain. You feel it out, too much is better than not enough. Most women the first couple times are not quite sore the next day but they'll say very mildly, like they can feel it. Otherwise it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:04 PM
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Ha, women do bits going around actually pulling that shit and men love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:26 PM
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Nah, there are any number of reasons a guy might not want a relationship with you no matter how high value you may be. Sex wasnt good, you gave a fun personality in small doses, he's hung up on someone else, you simply don't fit the life plan, any number of subjective and personal turnoffs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:45 PM
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Only for tag and brag scenarios. That's basically only because it helps a little for preselection. Well, and in certain instances confidence. Can't say I've been with a celeb but I have been with a former gf of a backstreet boy and I can't lie, even that feels pretty good to be able to pull the same tail as a major heartthrob celeb. Basically there's nothing about it that actually attracts me, but if I go there then yeah, I got bragging rights. Not to say I'd play it up , just....I know that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:11 PM
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You only need that stuff if they aren't that into you. If you're attractive they throw it all out the window. I don't need it. I usually have a line of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:40 PM
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Very few men have their sexual needs fully met by their SO in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:00 PM
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Somewhere between 75-90% of men consume porn. Nowhere near that are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:41 PM
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Uh, it's not a method. Its not supposed to work or not work. Its not even a prod to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:52 PM
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Sex drive, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:07 PM
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IME , a big dick is basically the bonus onion ring in your fries. Most women are like " ooh, nice!" But they didn't order onion rings, it didn't affect where they chose to eat, they probably haven't even thought about onion rings in a long time. Then a few are a little cautious like " I'm not sure how that gets in there....hmm".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:17 PM
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See that's the other thing. On some level we judge same sex members as competition. On some level we judge opposite sex members as pretty much how attracted we are. Women have a lot broader range of what they see as competitive. I can't count the number of times I've said some woman on TV was ugly or weird looking where an SO would defend them and be shocked. Women also paradoxically rate like 80% of men as below average. Which is basically a direct reflection of who they could see having sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:30 PM
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They seem nearly all looks matched to me but then I don't have the female tendency to rate nearly all men as below average so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:55 PM
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They seem mostly looks matched to me. Then again, I don't have the female tendency to rate nearly all men as below average so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:53 PM
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Eh, it's kind of self defining. If men have a higher drive, thus a broader range of acceptance. I mean who are we judging the attractiveness to? Men. In other words we set the standard, and our sex drive basically dictates it. You could say it both ways and have it be true. Like, even a shit hole in a good spot is more valuable than a practical mansion in the middle of nowhere. The shit hole isn't intrinsically better, but it's more valuable because more people want it. By the same stroke the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:42 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/researchers-explore-the-evolutionary-roots-of-cunnilingus/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:05 AM
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I guess if you consider cave paintings, Kamasutra, erotika biblion etc. to be porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:40 AM
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No, but I think a lot do it and don't connect the dots to realize it. For the few that don't do this....the risk vs reward for men isnt there. She's happy for 5 minutes that you shared VS she uses it against you for the rest of your relationship or it chipped away at some of her attraction and that lingers the rest of it or it starts a snowball that ends the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:36 PM
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Yeah, with less stigma and even less clarity though. So doing it but reframing it or just being unaware is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:44 PM
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It's an instinctive shit test. Women honestly believe it comes from a good place and wanting to feel connected and trustworthy and all that bs but its a hardwired search for weakness. Just another way to evaluate if he's really their safe place and how much. They may even feel " aww he trusts me" but it still erodes their sense of respect for him. That's why the few that admit to it being real always say it's other women but not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:09 PM
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What gets me is it's always other women, it's always someone else, it's never the one speaking. She's never like that. She's always welcoming and supportive. 1/1000 women will admit a sliver of truth to this stuff and yet somehow 999/1000 men have experienced it. If anything it's the more trad women who are often a bit more amenable. They don't reject the role of being supportive or nurturing so much, so occasionally they're a little more ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:47 PM
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Fluffy Half the posts mention something along the lines of it being a turnoff of if there's any self deprecation. Yeah, go ahead and be vulnerable alright, you just can't feel bad about yourself in any way while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:31 PM
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So it looks like the overarching theme of the responses here is basically: " We don't have a problem with men opening up, as long as when they do they aren't lacking confidence and it isn't a problem that affects us."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:06 PM
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I mean it all comes down to one thing really. Men's higher sex drive. Its not that women are more attractive per se, intrinsically. It's that men have a higher sex drive and a broader spectrum of acceptance because of it. A woman might only seek a 7+ or nothing and even then not be too pressed. The equivalent man may accept as low as 4 on a bad day. Will seek 6+ and is always pressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:52 PM
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They do. Constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:44 PM
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Nah, no other caveats needed. Use rule. If one partner doesn't want to and someone else does, no reason not to let them. Why should anyone reserve themselves for someone who doesn't want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:19 PM
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It's certainly possible but I would lean towards all that attributing as well as some natural causes. It happens to coincide with the age where girls physically mature faster. Which could affect perception as well. Could also hint at biological changes that have an effect. For instance the limbic system begins to develop earlier for girls. I would say the absolute lynchpin here though is the difference in risk taking behaviors. Onset of puberty signals a shift towards risk aversion for girls and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:18 PM
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It's a lot of things but remember status is a plus for women. Sexual history seems to be fairly neutral or at least run a broader scale. If anything the ones who are turned off are because they dislike other women they deem to be excessively attention seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:11 PM
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That's pretty much just a universally common sentiment and has been for recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:06 PM
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Thanks for a one in 4 billion data point I guess? I know IME babysitting outside of siblings tends to simply be a non starter for boys at 11-14, when the majority of girls start. American Red Cross babysitter certification classes have less than 10% boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:40 PM
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In no way is that an explanation. 85% of men don't earn more than 85% of women. Even if it were, it doesn't change anything. Women still aren't selecting men who make less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:28 AM
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16% of US marriages have the wife as primary provider and the younger the couple is the less likely that is to be the case. 29% are considered egalitarian and among those the average has the man earning more. The rest 55% have the husband as primary. That's all you need to know. Desiring about the same income or just having someone able to be independent is heavily reported, but the results do not match.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:53 AM
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They already are. What age is babysitting age for girls? How about boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:34 PM
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Single dad here. I worked and was the only parent. I'd have loved to be a sahd. Now I run a business, would prefer sahd. You know why daytime TV was all geared towards women? Because they had time for it. Have I ever had time for that while working? Hell no. How about a nap in the middle of the day...no, not that either. Sit at the playground and chit chat for an hour..nope. Read a book... nope. Yeah, youre kind of always on call but also determining literally everything that happens and with fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:41 PM
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Depends on the state but, some of them yes she could.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:26 PM
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Its not dangerous. That's my point. It's a bullshit perception. It's literally no more dangerous than just being an average person living a normal life. Top 25....yeah, the lower end ones have the same death rates as Joe Schmoe. You might as well just cut it off at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:54 PM
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Its not dangerous. That's my point. It's a bullshit perception. It's literally no more dangerous than just being an average person living a normal life. Top 25....yeah, the lower end ones have the same death rates as Joe Schmoe. You might as well just cut it off at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:54 PM
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Just saying that the perception is mostly because cops like to romanticize the danger as some marker of nobility or something. The garbage man has it 3 times worse. Any random person who drives a car at all who is 25-44yo has an almost identical rate of dying in a car crash as compared to being a cop. So if your man drives to work you're on equal grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:32 PM
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Cops barely make the list of the top 25 most dangerous occupations in the US At number 22, and the categories are fairly broad. Small engine mechanic at 18 Delivery driver at 7
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:13 PM
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On top of the stats everyone brings up I can tell you from first hand experience with many of them that you are most likely agreeing to surveillance of all kinds. Beyond just really checking into you on a records basis. These are the guys who will scrutinize your credit card statements, put cameras in the house, put trackers on your vehicle. If they can figure it out, monitoring software on your phone and computer. Lots of controlling and suspicious behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:07 PM
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No but it's expected to happen to as high of a standard sometimes. Just with less frequency. NRE can't last but some of the things you do then should still happen, sometimes to s higher degree. Either way it should be as strong or stronger just not as constant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:36 PM
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We all know it's seldom about equality and if it truly were it would simply be called an egalitarian. It is by nature pro female and by necessity often oppositional and sometimes anti anyone else. Its right in the name, nobody's buying the red herring of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:29 PM
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Funny thing is, the most popular AI bf personalities are toxic assholes. Jealous, controlling abusive, you name it. The ones that aren't, are complained about as being boring. https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/ai-chatbot-boyfriend-husband-app-b2698216.html Seems women love to complain, and be victims...they choose it even when the options are limitless. Of course the popular trend for AI gfs is to verbally abuse them so the men aren't any less twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:39 PM
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Coercion- the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats Hmm, that doesn't seem to check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:56 AM
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How does anyone's reaction either way benefit me? It doesn't. So I don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:49 AM
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Most people with a good body fat index have a " good face".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:31 AM
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Who cares? Single data points and peoples personal tiktok playlists....this what we're debating with now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:25 AM
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The answer to OPs last question is the same as the answer to this one. If a man makes more money, why should he settle for a woman who doesn't? Because we go for what we value. Plus a lot of women have a general disdain for men who spend as much effort primping as they do. In fact in a man it would be considered one checkmark in a clinical evaluation for narcissism to spend the same amount of time as an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:35 AM
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Yeah, the sentiment that is tailored to your taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:00 AM
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Oh yes, tiktok, the pinnacle of research.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:59 AM
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Well for one those rankings are determined by both. It actually aligns with what they do. The vast majority of marriages have a man making a significant amount more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:57 AM
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Nope and here's why. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/12/05/americans-see-different-expectations-for-men-and-women/ Physical attractiveness doesn't even crack the top 5 for men. 3 of the top 5 are income or income adjacent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:51 AM
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There's no world where you can claim the popular sentiment right now is that women should defer to their husbands. Some growing minority want to go back to it....okay....that doesn't make it the predominant environmental mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:32 PM
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25% of US population regularly attends Church of any kind. We can assume a smaller portion of that includes that advice. Not the popular sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:20 PM
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That hasn't been a popular sentiment in 60 years and it's been the exact opposite for at least 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:12 PM
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You'll also find , (possibly in that same research I'd have to check again) that what women are apologizing for is just trivial shit and that they are less likely make a sincere apology or a continued effort to correct the situation or make it up to the person wronged. sorry Unique Female Apology Themes Only one theme was found to be unique to respondents’ perceptions of female apologies. As outlined in Table 2, this theme is the initiation of apology Unique Male Apology Themes Two themes, susta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:58 PM
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You're just showing your inexperience. It sounds like you're quoting out of a textbook to the veterans your first day on the job
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:12 AM
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Lol. It's a giant shit test. As long as you bend over backwards it'll keep going. It's something wisdom teaches you to just accept and move along with. Scorpions sting, women bitch. Shrug at the right complaints , shell switch gears and try to satisfy you, but she'll still never be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:06 AM
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I think it's pretty well accepted that women are never satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:02 AM
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In relationships the there is no a+b=c There is no direct cause and effect. There is no , just solve the problem with the most efficient solution. It's all just feelings and guesswork. Soft logic. Inconsistency. Circular not linear. There is no do x and y will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:00 AM
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Oh you sweet summer child.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:35 AM
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Easy, its all abstract, conceptual, and subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:32 AM
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Idk, I've had both easy sex and steady relationships. They're both pretty good. This is kind of like believing people who say being rich isn't all it's cracked up to be. Actually saw someone say that to Leno once and he just shook his head and said...."uhh, it's pretty good" and went on to elaborate that it's better than any alternative. Not to mention if you get enough attention from women to get easy sex a steady relationship is just a handful of choices away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:58 PM
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Seemed to be the opposite at least in the - in a partner- sense. Almost no women are actually entering egalitarian marriages let alone ones where he makes less, and very few where he makes significantly less. Point is I hear variations in what you said a whole hell of a lot more than people seem to actually follow through with that logic. Hell they even skew the selections to make it look better. They give a large portion of marriages as " egalitarian" but those are where the couple bring in wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:33 PM
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Nah. Point is there will always be people of the same sex you relate to better. Have more common interests with etc. And unless all of your top friends are all ex's youre full of it. You didn't value them better as friends than anyone else, they just added to the total package enough with sex and intimacy that you formed a closer than friends relationship. It doesn't mean you don't relate or form an intimate bond it just means it's different type of relationship. I don't need my woman to work on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:28 PM
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Nah, what you're failing to account for is that people are basically looking at sum total benefit for any relationship. So if we look at just typical interactions. Guy friends...similar experience, similar views, similar interest, common subject areas of knowledge etc. Gal friends.....uhm...very little of that but basic human stuff. So basically less total benefit. There's only bandwidth for so many friends so you fill that with the ones most beneficial. Add sex and now we have a sum total benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:10 PM
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It basically takes the stance that the user is average themselves. So for a woman who's 5'4" 167lbs and makes $30k.....yeah, it's pretty damned delulu. The age brackets It just used to adjust the commonality of the other numbers iirc , it doesn't cut that bracket from the population percentage wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:43 AM
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Apparently not. Looking at those countries we see that for the most part women still work about 75% of the hours men do ( they still call this a pay gap even though it matches the gap). Or in say Sweden, where they actually started to get very close.....enter " soft girl" trend. As soon it starts to get close to egalitarian the pendulum swings and women start rejecting the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:33 AM
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Very close already. Japanese scientists have made strides in creating artificial wombs by using male skin cells to produce eggs and sperm, which can then be used in vitro to create embryos. This technology, known as in vitro gametogenesis (IVG), holds promise for treating infertility and enabling same-sex couples to have biologically related children. It's been done with rats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:27 AM
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As much as this type of thing is said it rarely shakes out. In The US about 75% of marriages have the husband making at least 20% more than the wife and the younger the couple the more likely they are to have a male primary provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:25 AM
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When I did it was because hooking up was just easier and came with less BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:00 PM
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Hell I can tell you at least some of it. I woke to an incredibly ugly woman sucking my dick when I was passed out drunk. Told her she had to stop. She did. Wasn't a big deal we stayed friends like nothing happened. Why is it different? Simple power imbalance. There was no point I felt unsafe or like I couldn't say no etc. That's part of it. The other part. I didn't feel taken advantage of because well, like most men im constantly trying to give the D away That's my directive. While women are con…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:28 PM
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You're halfway there. Price point isn't determined by a single purchase though for starters. If you can sell it once at a certain price that doesn't mean that's it's value. The point where the combination of price and volume result in the highest total does. If I can't reliably sell it for that price then that's not its value. In this instance it only makes sense to look at it as renting vs long term renting or buying though. If I can rent something at $100 per day it doesn't mean I can rent it …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:45 PM
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I think you're confusing RP for something else, and confusing statements for complaints. Take the bad boy thing. RP approach is just to realize it happens so you can , if you wish, take advantage of it. RP approach: They basically just want Chad....try to become as Chad as you can Incel approach: They just want Chad , it's hopeless BP: They all want something different, be yourself and someone will be a match for you. Sports equivalent RP: let's do what the winners do so we can have some success…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:54 AM
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Your claim. This is an example of female privilege. First you need to prove that exists, at least in this sense. Then you need to prove that her sex was the casual factor in her light sentence. 5 cases ain't cutting it for either, and you just opened yourself to be demolished with singular cases showing the opposite. Broad claims require broad proof, and specific ones require specific analysis. You made both and barely scratched a menial effort at the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:10 PM
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A single case or even a handful is fodder for a case discussion. It doesn't prove a broader point. At best it could be used to highlight some of the minutes that contributed. You could show the trend and some of the elements and then claim they contribute to the outcome here. Instead you use a single case to try and prove the broad existence of a female privilege and any idiot is going to say ooh extreme cherry picking. Then everyone just starts drowning your case in cherry picked examples showi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:48 PM
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The subject for this debate is pretty much handed to you on a platter but if you want to get torn to shreds with this poor approach have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:17 PM
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Not really, by itself it's irrelevant. Maybe pair it with similar cases with male and female offenders to show a trend in numbers so you could support the claim that its even an example. Otherwise you just have a human interest story that has no actual relevance here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:57 PM
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Why do we need to discuss one off cases? There are one off cases that are ridiculous in every sense you can't extrapolate it to anything. Courts are clearly more lenient with women on a broad sweeping scale, that's a fact. However singular cases mean jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:17 PM
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Agreed. I was just thinking more in terms of priorities. Young , you don't even need the whole package. Hot beach bum is fine for a fuck. No need to compromise. Then you start needing more. Then you start to compromise. The. You need the hottest guy you can find with a decent job.....but now youve given up something. Each time you add a requirement you lose a little ground on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:26 PM
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I had to re read this and think for a minute because I didn't even remember this. Lol. Essentially instead of this being due to some sort of instinctive strategy it's just a product of maturing. The same process means we think longer term, weigh consequences etc to make more prudent and less impulsive decisions in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:03 AM
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I mean, I didn't think PPD had walls to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:38 PM
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I've never seen a man punch a wall in here...I'm pretty sure it's not even possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:43 PM
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I mean thats pretty much the formula. Change viewpoints conveniently. Deflect. Meet logical points with appeals to emotion. Assign hypoagency to women at convenient junctures. Play victim. Focus on justification without even conceding the fact to begin with. It's basically all they've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:53 PM
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Absolutely irrelevant. You have to first accept its fact before you can start trying to justify it. Which is a different issue altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:17 PM
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Don't know, or care. It could be 100% or 0% .....doesnt negate the fact of women's stance on resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:14 PM
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Doesn't matter, they still want more. 16% of marriages in the US have a woman as primary provider. 55% have a man. ( The younger the couple the more likely the man makes more) The rest are fairly even. Which is only to say their income is within 50% of each other's. ( Average among these has the man making over 20% more) It's safe to say that for most women, money is a requirement. Regardless of whether she can take care of herself or not. They won't choose men that are a net neutral financially…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:06 PM
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Then presumably you'd invite your bf and he probably wouldn't take issue. Do you think mixed friend groups are enough to entirely eliminate the demand altogether or wouldn't there be enough girls nights full of women who don't want to be bothered by men to keep at least one place afloat somewhere in the world? Do you propose that lesbians have no male friends? Anybody who says clubs are not driven by meetups is crazy as hell. Can you go and not intend anything, and not care about even getting at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:19 PM
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Basically that almost everything is a compromise. There's very little full autonomy if you respect your marriage. Every asset, time included, decision, property, body , whatever is never just yours to do completely as you will with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:43 PM
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It's so hard to get a real on the ground feel for this. I'm above average but I'm not top tier. I always thought it was hard. But yeah guys id think would do okay are like yeah, 2 months in and nothing. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:59 PM
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I mean....by comparison to what you hear here I absolutely slay on OLD.....which is to say I could sleep with at least one woman a month from it anytime I use it in a low populus area and one a week in a city of 1M. I've met numerous GFS over the years on it. I still don't consider it a very positive experience in general though. I guess the best way to explain it is I can pick up women at my same looks level id say most nights I go out, def get numbers. I could do the same in grocery store, boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:20 PM
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In addition you need to back up your number. They can't just keep coming out of your rear. Show me the data. Honestly doesn't matter, believe it , don't, Google it for yourself, don't really care honestly. Because it's all adjacent. Those numbers exist only to try and be fair about the fact all clubs have limited lifespan. The fact is there are zero ( that anyone can find) women only night clubs outside lesbian and strip clubs. There are no clubs for women to just go dance together, because nobo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:42 PM
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You got something against non gender conforming trans women? Kidding...I kinda doubt that caused closures even if it was an issue, but lesbian clubs rather add to proving my point anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:38 PM
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Aww too bad. I was at one three weeks ago. Nice facade, nice people, not so drastically different that you're immune to human nature though. Be careful about lulling yourself into a false sense of security please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:45 PM
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Wrong. What all female clubs being impossible to keep open and women only nights being impossible to have consistently shows us is one thing. You can have every other element there, but take away the men , and women won't show up. No matter what other thing they claim is the only purpose, they will not show up unless there are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:19 PM
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Ah, yes. Thankfully you're only into the leading scene in drug rape. I'm sure that's better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:16 PM
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Absolutely can be. Two spring instantly to mind that initially attract women and then they are famous for then trying to change. Musical instruments, cars. Then one that doesn't attract but they'll still try and change .....ready.... You already know it, gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:54 PM
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Yes, but you can't be controlling without keeping. If we consider that even just upset behavior can be used as punishment then any disagreement could be controlling. Reasonable is really the key here. I could say it's controlling to tell me I can't be on dating apps and technically I'd be correct. Expecting what you consider appropriate behavior is perfectly fine. If your idea of appropriate and someone else's is too far away to compromise then the deal is off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:43 PM
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In fact the percentage of married people on dating apps is higher than in clubs. Only here would people argue that people don't go to clubs to meet potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:00 PM
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I didn't have to , women proved they wouldn't go unless there are men, everytime it's been tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:47 PM
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You might go solely for the music and dance, the vast majority of people won't, it's proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:28 PM
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Its just a non issue for most. So we can blow off the constant complaints and claims about just wanting to dance and be left alone. Plus, a club that halved its number of potential punters would not make enough money and fail. So no club owner is going to do that. Strangely , there are wildly popular gay clubs, and a handful of popular lesbian ones too. A demographic that cuts out 92% of the population. Swingers clubs, cuts out 97% of the population. Of course there again, we add back the hookup…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:21 AM
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No no - it was already clarified for you. We don’t date people who do the things we don’t agree with. I beg to differ, in fact women are kind of famous for trying to change a man. I can fix him is a trope for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:02 AM
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Don't need to I've met plenty of club girls where we had a mutual interest, we fucked, I didn't try to marry them. I didn't date them, because even according to the women here, that would be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:01 AM
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Find one...many have opened. They all fail. Tbf all clubs fail at high rate, but about 1700 a year open in the US and about 1500 close. Yet you can still find ones that cater to every other niche. The only minor exception are lesbian clubs, not particularly successful, but they do exist. Then again, we are back to adding the hookup possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:53 AM
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They're all either A. Lesbian clubs B. Feature male strippers Or C. Closed. One example, LICK closed. Of course it was lesbian focused anyhow but it went back to just organizing events. Tons have closed but let's be honest it's not even a really fair measure. Basically every one that's ever opened closed so I'm not going to bother detailing a list. ( Though there have been plenty) Theres like an 80% failure rate for all night clubs within a year. Attrition happens with all of them. The average l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:37 AM
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And, so what? They go in numbers insignificant compared to regular clubs. Yay, they spend 1% of their club time in gay bars...for reasons. Totally irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:59 PM
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I see you can't read. They said , and I quote. " Most women go out to dance and have fun with their friends" They also said that " most women go for the possibility of meeting someone" is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:56 PM
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That's the point. The whole scene is built on hooking up and showing off, not dancing with friends innocently. Someone says that's why they like it there's an 80% chance they're full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:33 PM
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Okay, I'll pretend you're 5. The claim is women only go to dance and enjoy music. They don't go for anything to do with men. But if you take away men, no women go. Well that's weird. I think someone is fibbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:05 PM
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Lol, sure they did. That's been brought up before. Well if it's an issue why doesn't she just go to the gay clubs??? Que Nah nah nah nah nahn sense retorts. Theyre barely present there and if there were a demand for it they wouldn't need to go there, they could go to all female clubs. There's no demand. People think there is because of women's words but quickly find out it doesn't match their actions and then fail. There's a reason club demographic is 78% single or divorced. People in serious re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:30 PM
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And if that were the only real appeal, I could make a half size club, fill it with only women, eliminating the source of their complaints and it would be the most wildly popular club in the city. Except then there's reality, nobody would show up after three weeks. Can you be civil, please? I am. Is " bullshit" too harsh for you? I don't know how else to word it , concerts arent clubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:21 PM
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Funny thing is 21-34yo make up 31% of the market. 35-65yo make up 47% Granted one segment is a 30yr range vs 13 but...still. The rest of your post is....not quite irrelevant but, really just flopping out some bullshit with totally different scenarios. Its not necessarily that everyone goes with that goal, but we see that it's suddenly not interesting without the possibilies. Maybe you just want attention, maybe light flirting, maybe you want to support your friend who is on the pull , maybe, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:58 PM
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And that's you. That's why I say it's individual. I don't do clubs but her and I go to social dances of all kinds. We dance with other people, we do sensual forms with other people. Sometimes we go separately. Neither one of us would be cool with just grinding other people like idiots. Personally most of the dancing at clubs just seems like free strippers and free standing lap dances ( which a lot of women would consider cheating, unless they're the ones doing it of course) minus nips ( mostly) …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:43 PM
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They won't go unless there are men there, that's why it fails. Halving the number just means you have a smaller club with less overhead, or in very popular places, just means you have to turn less people away. At least you would, if women would actually show up without men there. Club demographic is 78% single or divorced. People in serious relationships don't go.....simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:28 PM
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That's not the difference. Punishments for going are controlling. That's " I'm not letting go of you, but I am going to do x thing because of it instead" At anytime someone can want to do something and the other can not like it. You either compromise,agree or split. And the equivalent you were looking for is saying " my boyfriend can't go to strip clubs because he might cheat" Here's where I'm at. I don't and never have gone to clubs looking for a serious relationship, if I meet a club girl we f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:25 PM
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while pretending that most women would agree with you, is just bad faith Tbf she didn't claim that. But it is kind of a pointless addition debate wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:00 PM
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So literally the same thing these guys say. I don't like it, if she does it , I'm out. Problem is either sex will try to still do the thing but keep their relationship and gaslight each other about it and that's where the arguments come in. She can always say, if you don't like it, bye. She can't argue to justify it and expect capitulation. Neither can he. Some people will compromise or capitulate, some won't. Depends on which thing they value more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:59 PM
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said “most women go to clubs for the possibility of meeting someone,” but that’s just not true. Most women go out to dance and have fun with their friends I said people. And all female night clubs have been tried and fail miserably. All female nights get tried, they start with a bang and fizzle out quick. You're either gaslighting or have no awareness. It may not be the mission, but without the possibility nobody's interested. I don't see married pta mom's with clubbing as a hobby. Its not popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:50 PM
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All female night clubs have been tried and failed miserably. All female nights get tried, they start with a bang and fizzle out. It's apparently no longer an interesting thing to do without the opposite sex present. Unless it's gays/lesbians....and then, huh there seems to be a common thread here...... Married attendees make up like 10% of the demo. Its not popular with anyone except young singles. There's a reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:48 PM
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This is just always going to be controversial on a broad scale. It's so individual l. On one hand you shouldn't go into something expecting to change someone. On the other , everyone has at least some things they do single that they don't do while coupled. Lots of behavior is status dependent. Are we judging the father of two who wants to leave his wife and kids home to go out clubbing? Hell yeah we are. I mean, there's times I was single I spent every Friday and sat in a bar or club. I have no …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:04 PM
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478 deadly dog attacks in the US from 2010 to 2023. 67% were pit bulls. 10% Rottweilers Those dogs account for 6% of the total dogs but nearly 80% of fatalities. Most frequent victims, children 1-4yo. So 1 they're dangerous because of the level of damage. Even if the owners are at fault, that just proves the point that being a pit bull apologist , or at least owner, is statistically likely to make you incompetent at least compared to all other mid size and up dog owners. By your admission here. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:58 AM
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I'm saying I treat head as foreplay mostly. If you're there I can probably have sex with you and I probably want you so....why finish that way? Basically only to change it up sometimes.... I mean it's hot when she's like " no I want to make you cum" but that's not all that often. If the goal is to get off that way, I'm still giving up on it before it kills the mood because I'm working her too long. how long does it take you to get off when you're masturbating? Depends why. If I am doing it becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:23 PM
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so you've never been w a woman who likes being on top? or what? That is the least likely position for me to get off. I think four, out of 140 ( ish, idk lost track a long time ago) some odd have managed to do it. Which illustrates the point, when you're the one doing the thrusting, so to speak, you basically get yourself off. It's just the mechanics of it. Men can basically self satisfy during sex. you're getting bjs long enough that you get bored? I wouldn't say bored but I'm not pushing anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:55 PM
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Okay, but we also don't expect that guys masturbate themselves to completion during sex. Fair but the mechanics of it are basically just that. You move how you need to in order to get off. If I had to take a more passive role and count on how she moves in order to get off it would happen maybe one in 20 times. Hell, finding a woman that can get me off with a BJ , especially in a reasonable amount of time is a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:30 PM
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I was being sarcastic. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I was wrong on the odds , it's more like 99.9999999% chance thats not accurate. It would be the equivalent of meeting someone who won the lottery twice in the same week with one ticket each time and it was covered up and nobody heard about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:09 PM
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I know a guy who said he can match Michael Phelps lap times. I saw him swim and he was really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:57 AM
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Yeah 99.9999% probability that is a lie. 13.5 was recently a world record, one which gained the man quite a bit of fame and hes made an agreement to donate his penis to fucking museum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:52 PM
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Although I can understand your viewpoint I haven't had the same experience. Except on the extreme ends like pulling for ONS at a bar or something. I didn't really modify my approach and was usually kind of open to whatever. Instead of trying to fit the women I met into my box of what I was looking for I just figured out who they were along the way. Whenever I felt like settling down and had something going on with that type of woman I would. Hell I found that the same person can be different for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:04 PM
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I've not seen the RP guys here claim values. Ive mostly seen it presented as amoral. Even for purples Ive mainly seen just references to instinct, which would also be amoral. I've only seen BP claim values and morals as reasons having to do with this, regardless of what their defended preference is. In any case, I agree. For the most part everything to do with sex and dating is amoral. It's the one area people follow their preferences without much concern for morals really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:52 PM
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In general it seems the pendulum has swung towards more ... Idk , prudish all around I think. Less sex, less alcohol, less socializing ( at least in person) more PC......it kind of paints the picture of the generations getting more uptight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:49 PM
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Proximity used to be a market constraint. More of a free market does tend to create disparity. They've also lost anonymity and have more escapes and distractions. I guess extra virgin is more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:19 PM
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At the same time our own viewpoint is skewed. I never really had much trouble, although at the time I thought I did. Id say it's only become easier and easier but, yeah at 42 it's easier than ever. What I'm trying to say is age has an effect as much as anything, the fact it's easy now isn't an indicator it's become easier in general over time. If I look at OLD data that lines up, it gets exponentially easier for a guy from 18-30 and gets mildly easier all the way to 50. I just look at sex stats …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:28 AM
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Because couples ages became closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:18 AM
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Shit I wish I was sometimes. Alas I'm just attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:26 PM
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You kind of reminded me of this article. https://www.davidbrin.com/nonfiction/neoteny1.html Specifically the point labeled " THREE" under " so where do humans fit in this spectrum"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:30 PM
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This is the equivalent of telling a woman that if she wants to get married just find a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:15 PM
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They really do seem to have a misconception. I mean just look at how nervous they are about the possibility of cheating. If they actually realized it, they'd almost never even consider the possibility with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:11 PM
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Nobody asked you, or any other commenter to care. His question was simply why don't women realize it's hard. So far every commenter here only answers why they don't care, not why they seem to have a misconception of the difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:09 PM
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Obviously not. The system for tinder was literally nickname Elo by the developers. So Elo is in fact the correct term here. You clearly didn't know that, which tells me you have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:55 PM
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Sure. Come back when you've actually looked at available info instead of adamantly claiming something based solely on your wild guess. I can tell you clearly aren't familiar with the available info.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:52 PM
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Lol, sure. I could show you the interview with a developer where they tell you that's basically how it works. What you end up with is fairly accurate rankings, just like in chess, where a similar system results in fairly matched opponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:43 PM
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It can be and already is. Averages for one thing. Two, the reason it was nicknamed elo to begin with is that there was some element of the system that brought your score up or down based on the scores of those you interacted with. In other words, if I like a low scoring person it brings their score up and mine down. If a high scored person likes me my score goes up. If a lot of people like me, my vote counts for more. Basically just puts hotties with other hotties by virtue of them choosing you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:32 PM
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They just think if they provide any value at all theyre somehow subservient. You're supposed to help them but never the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:32 PM
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One has little to do with the other While the idea may have come from knights kneeling to pledge loyalty, it didn't show up for proposals until silent films in the 1920's and didn't become a common occurrence until the 1960s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:13 PM
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Lol, guess they could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:32 PM
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I mean, climbing Everest will almost certainly get you laid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:21 PM
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Closet hoe is a term for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:45 PM
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Fooled himself into thinking that RP guys actually want the women who display the behavior they're critical of instead of just being stuff to try and avoid but know how to deal with as best as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:44 PM
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I would guess a big factor is that these men admit it isn't fair instead of trying to justify it or automatically jump on the mans side and accuse. They just maintain skepticism and admit it's more mental load than they want to deal with, regardless of which is the truth. Another is that it's simply so easy for women, it doesn't seem nearly as unfair if some men disqualify her. Guaranteed it hasn't wrecked her chances for a man , nor for work. This scenario is like hearing that someone stole 10m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:20 PM
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He's exaggerating but there is a tendency for the reaction to be to either get self conscious or irritated or both sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:55 PM
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Probably unrelated to being on this sub anyhow, or at least very very tangentially. I was mostly being cheeky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:52 PM
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Uh huh, and is infanticide handled identically? Nope Also you just described indefinite psychiatric confinement. In the UK, infanticide carries the same maximum sentence as manslaughter, which is life imprisonment. However, infanticide convictions are generally less severe than manslaughter convictions, often resulting in custodial sentences between 2 and 4 years. The key difference lies in the Infanticide Act, which reduces the culpability for a mother's actions when the balance of her mind is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:48 PM
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Doesn't mean we should just let false statements go. Infanticide gets a finite prison sentence.....not indefinite psychiatric confinement. Plain and simple. Stop letting your assumptions and emotional state run your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:03 PM
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I had a gf, now I have 3.... Idk if that's an improvement or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:48 PM
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All behavior of men and women is human behavior. If you're wondering if there are certain trends of behavior that are more common to women and certain ones more common to men then I have to wonder how long you've been alive. Men and women tend to act and react to things differently.....uhh yep, checks out. Some is bad some is good, most can be either depending on perspective and the objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:30 PM
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Not under the laws he's talking about. They're given a finite prison sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:47 AM
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The hugs bit goes to my point in my comment to the op of this section. Muddy waters from intersex dynamics is basically what's behind this. If you treated her the same as a guy friend to begin with, it wouldn't have ever been an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:28 AM
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Honestly the problem is that intersex friendships all too often look like, or at least contain a lot of elements of a relationship. A lot of times it's these types of friendships where he's offering or she's expecting essentially girlfriend privileges without the girlfriend benefits. That's why so many of them view it as " backup" or some other form of using. When they're honestly friends where he treats her the same as a guy friend and she expects that....it's never an issue. muddying that wate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:22 AM
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I've never seen anyone say it's a problem. Every time it's brought up here it's more for the purpose of exploring women's mentality and what the implications of it are/ maybe highlight some hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:34 PM
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I mean, would it be good enough to know they actually enjoy it, or would they need to want it? If that makes sense. For instance I had clients that I wouldn't have pursued in any normal circumstance, but I still enjoyed my time with them. I feel like them actually wanting it is such a big part of the turn on for most women....this is why I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:16 AM
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There is a 14 day limit imposed on growing a fetus outside a natural womb. If it were lifted most estimates on our ability to grow a baby from beginning to end put it at 10-20 yrs from the day that ban is lifted. Including testing. There's not 100 years of tech in the way. Just ethical limitations. That said, even if it were done today, real wombs would still be a hell of a lot easier to come by for a loooong time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:24 PM
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There was no manosphere growing up. To boot I wasn't aware of one at all prior to maybe 5years ago. When I started to encounter it my thoughts went like this; Duh. People really need told this? Come to think of it, I did learn all this through hard knocks. I really wish some of this was around when I was a teen. Nice to see actual numbers, didn't think it was that bad. Yeah so real life for sure. Although, tbf you do say " radicalizing" so that swings it over to online content. While there's a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:18 PM
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If it were allowed to be done for more than 14 days most estimates right now for the ability to be developed are in the 10-20yr range....including testing. But you're right, no need for an egg or ovary bank. Current developments have a method of using skin cells to make plureonic ( spelling?) cells that are then coaxed into becoming female egg cells. So far mice have already been born to two male parents by that method. So in fact...at some point no need to even have a female involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 09:33 PM
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When I was doing it , most of the time I actually enjoyed it. If for no other reason then at least because I just liked pleasing someone. A lot could have certainly had it free, some i felt I should be paying them. For women that take advantage of such services it seems to be more about avoiding the pitfalls of the process of finding the scenario. She doesn't want to be seen entertaining young men or out flirting with anyone she shouldn't be or indulge within her social circle, wants it well and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:10 PM
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taking the red pill" is just the acceptance that society favors women at the expense of men. and that feminism is just promoting hatred of men I've seen some pretty wild, feminist originated definitions of what redpill is ...this one is closely related to them. It was/is about intersex dynamics, sexual strategy, and breaking the narrative of women having more power in relationships etc. Basically breaking the conceptions you see in tv sitcom tropes, the bs just world fallacies we are fed about "…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:19 PM
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I mean , prostitution is one way to be successful I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:47 PM
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Why are you conflating MRA and RP? RP is literally about attraction so why wouldn't it focus around dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:06 PM
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Agreed. 7.5....sample size around 150. I may have to take my time and not go balls deep in the first 10min but other than that, being careful in doggy, and some women being uncomfortable in cowgirl or just not able to move the way they normally would without becoming uncomfortable, maybe some very very minor soreness the next day the first few times it's really not that big of an issue. Besides, if you have the ability to make it hurt just a little, you can be 100% confident you're enough. Adjus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:06 PM
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Nobody plans a trip to Miami to not party.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:10 PM
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This is why so many men think so many women are stupid. This is just one of the things behind " choose better". First date and dudes showing hints that his mind is already going to jealous, controlling spaces....and it's a turn on. In 6 months when she's complaining about being told what to wear and kept on a tight leash and acting shocked every guy who heard the initial story is just somewhere between speechless and only able to say "duh" at how fucking dumb she is. I gift her nothing. I say oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:31 AM
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I mean yes. I was worried about all of those things with one son. Even thought he may need a lot of special care in his early years. Then a surgery and thought he may end up with a colostomy bag for a while. Then he died. So none of those worries ended up being worth thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:49 AM
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Meh, I do this naturally. I just don't have much give a fuck so any negging is generally going to get a shrug anyhow. At most I'll up the ante.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:42 AM
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Y chromo studies show a bottleneck around 7k years ago and that's what was referenced. The evidence indicates it was essentially due small scale genecide most likely. Not disease as it didn't effect whole populations, only dropping of entire related y chromosome groups. Only 24percent of men age 40-50 are childless today. For women thats 16%....not drastically different. About 70 percent of all men aged 25 to 29 have no children. 82.2% of women aged 20-24 and 60.2% of women aged 25-29 have no ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:32 PM
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Oh please. They're just assuming they could tell and basing their turnoff on that. If they cant tell they don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:00 PM
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If you keep looking at each other just give a slight wave and smile. Gauge from there. Itll be pretty clear if you should create more opportunity, like on the way out or passing a note or offering through the wait staff to buy them both a dessert or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:37 AM
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They are less suggesting that few men reproduced and more suggesting that entire patrilineal kin groups died off/were killed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:10 AM
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I don't care how much you want to assign virtue to having a responsive sex drive and sensitive disgust threshold....there isn't any. I don't care how much you want to assign shame to having a spontaneous sex drive and high disgust threshold....there isn't any. Just how it is. Deflection is only how reddit works for women in this sub it's not really a baked in feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:52 PM
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Do you understand how irrelevant that is to answering OPs question? Women separate those activities from sex all the time. Doesn't even enter the equation. Men have the constant nag in their mind of " ok, but could this lead to any scenario with sex?" In their minds. Role of the pursuer. Feel about it how you will.....it won't change it. Clubs aren't going to stop catering to women in order to draw men because it hurts your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:20 PM
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Men are still gonna be more concerned with adding that element. Hell even single, most fun activities still come the caveat.....will there be women? Women are far less concerned with where their next bit of dick is coming from. " Girls just wanna have fun" and all that. Men will far less often plan a fun activity without the calculation of it affects their chances of getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:53 PM
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Almost none of what you listed is exclusive to a romantic or sexual relationship? Sure...but he already hit the nail on the head. Any of those things plus sexual tension is even more fun and men want to pile that cherry on top more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:21 PM
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This is just kind of how idealism goes. You think one way , and it all makes sense. Then you find out there's a lot of merit to the established and low and behold there are reasons why it became established and it works. You end up usually with a scenario that's basically like the established but with handful of tweaks towards your once idealist imaginations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:33 PM
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If someone needs to loudly express that they are something.....they aren't. Eg. " I'm strong and independent "....ever hear men proclaim this? "Empowered".....same question. All of this claiming they are this that or the other is just telling you what they are struggling to be/wish they were. " I'd rather be alone than with the wrong person"..... Meanwhile over 70% are either married or in a committed relationship. Do we think they're all with the right person? Of the remaining 30% about half of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:48 PM
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As in spinning plates, similar to using juggling as a metaphor for balancing multiple scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:18 PM
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I mean, how would you feel about a caffeinated weasel blocking off your AC?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:46 PM
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I mean alright but I'm still pretty prejudiced with weasels. They just move the clutter to a hidden pile somewhere. Last one I had was piling rockstar cans in the air ducts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:42 PM
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Just be careful or it'll be like an uglier version of enchanted. They'll come, they'll try, but it'll be sewer rats and cockroaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:32 PM
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I've seen this happen. You're just not hitting the right notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:27 PM
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Nah. We just have some combination of craving validation and being allowed to because women want us. I'm somewhere in the mid 100's range ( only counting normal meetings) and basically all the guys I know or have talked to on here that are 30-100+ range have a similar experience. It's not an all encompassing womanizing personality. It's that we rack up numbers between usually pretty lengthy LTRs. Particularly after we're the ones rejected. Also IME if I want to get laid " I'm just dating around,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:50 PM
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Oh....so you won't offer your own developed opinion on the best way to prove or work within their theories. The fact you have formed and offered an opinion on the best way to tell if one is getting beta bux treatment tells me you don't actually believe it's a made up thing yourself. You're out here giving tips and tricks on how to catch the Easter bunny according to what you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:06 PM
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If he wants to screen then it's like anything else when you have a concern with someones motivations. Peoples actions give them away. If someone only lights up at the prospect of enjoying a certain thing , or brings it up a lot, it's their main concern. Just needs to make himself the main event and see who wants to be there. Who wants to go on a walk with me or have a booty call vs who only wants to hang out when we're taking the boat out. As far as bringing out the vibes.... Honestly, it comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:03 PM
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Then don't bother if that's what you believe. I don't engage flat earthers or cryptozoologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:55 PM
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If that's the case the entire post is completely irrelevant and there is no reason for you to have any opinion whatsoever on the details of achieving such a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:47 PM
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The goal stated was not to be taken as beta bux, if she just wants sex then I think the goal is achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:44 PM
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If it's a direct swap (attractive man dating down) absolutely don't give a shit. With the exception that I feel some sympathy when it's a result of being near a military base. Assuming the reverse; Not unless I'm actually looking, I would want her, and I consider myself hotter. Even then I guess you'd call that closer to jealousy than anything. It's like " wish I had that luck" It's also the very mildest tinge of a feeling that's barely noticeable and is quickly replaced with congratulatory feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:54 PM
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Everything in the place was recorded. These weren't outcalls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:08 PM
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If you think everything including arranging the scenario wasn't recorded you're pointing fingers at yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:04 PM
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I don't think he actually knows what he's responding to. His comments seem almost completely nongermane like there's some sort of confusion on that end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:27 PM
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What criticism? What assertion? The ladies made requests. They were often shit like; I want to pretend to sleep up until you're already in me or I want a massage and you start taking it too far but I'll pretend I think you're actually my husband until it's too late or just tell me I don't have a choice so don't fight it. Blah blah blah. Most often without actual physical force or restraint. They wanted it to happen, they paid for it, they just wanted to fantasize that they didn't actually choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:30 PM
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I mean yeah, it's both but I'd say it's definitely something you have some level of control with. Not being fat is a big part, pumping up the deltoids helps. Take a few inches off the waist and add one to the deltoids and it's a massively different appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:21 PM
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Ideally broader shoulders. I know this is an immutable trait Wouldn't necessarily say that. A lot of that is shoulder muscle, posture, and relativity with waist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:13 PM
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True. Id agree with that as well. Definitely just a bonus layer. Though I won't act like wanting to feel highly desired is the sole domain of women. I think for a lot of men their sexuality never gets to a point of centering on that simply because even in fantasy, just being accepted or allowed to do what they want is good enough. I'm fairly sought after, for a guy. Introspection is telling me this is the reason my own fantasies elevate to this level and the examples you use are appealing to me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:58 PM
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I mean, there is one additional factor though. I think the idea of being so desirable that some attractive person can't control themselves and has to have you probably often plays in on top of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:32 PM
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Yeah, you can easily want things that you choose against. It's not that hard of a concept. I can want to stay home from work. Not be willing to make that choice, and still fantasize about some natural disaster preventing me from going and taking away my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:23 PM
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Totally agree but also a bit on the nose for this sub. Women literally getting off to avoiding accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:19 PM
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Not my fault ism. I used to kind of call it in my head. As a former gigolo, a lot of clients were from more repressed cultures or situations and they almost all included some element of this. Usually rather than full on rape fantasies though it was more playing at scenarios where they didn't have any active input to make it happen but more just let it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:06 PM
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Nah. In all honesty what they typically really mean is " I like seeing you without it" If it weren't generally attractive nobody would wear it, it wouldn't feel good to wear it etc. I've had SOs who would almost never wear any..like maybe 3 times a year they'd do a little eye stuff. I appreciated her natural beauty but It was a treat to see her with it. I've also had ones that were models and always had wild stuff on, it was a treat to see them with either a natural look or without it. And other…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:55 PM
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Feels good because....looks attractive. I wonder who it looks attractive to. If it made you ugly nobody would wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:44 PM
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Ya know , for many years I think this was very true. I think it's far less true now. There's a new breed of female comedians that are pretty funny. The primary thing I think made them unable to deliver in the past was approval seeking. Seeming to not give a shit is a big part of it. Particularly when complaining at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:25 PM
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There are tons of studies showing general differences in all forms of written communication between men and women. Also it's kind of obvious. From way back we see shit like heart dotted "I"s, then emoji use, involved verbs, emotional language, descriptive language and far more use of what's called the passive voice wherein the subject receives the action rather than the subject performing the action. ( Which btw subconsciously obscures the responsible party when describing a problem and contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:24 PM
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You're reading into it too much. It's just that they're used to getting help. It's status quo. They also tend not to have an ego about it as much as men, so they'll typically accept help more readily. Part of this is just basic reality, most aren't very strong and very often get by through cooperation. Part of its conditioned, part of its natural. You won't look around to see who will help you because nobody is going to, you seldom need it, and it's probably a point of pride sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:12 PM
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And the tsunami of shaming the guy because " he's just insecure" and " immature" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:19 AM
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If someone repeatedly pounds into my cervix it’s very painful and bleeds. I know you're mostly speaking for yourself here but just to put it out there.... Women's preferences on this are as variable as everything else. There are only three overarching trends: 1 if it's hit fairly suddenly most women will have a " goosed" reaction. 2 you dont want to do it right off the bat. At the very beginning most women will either goose or wince. 3 doing it a lot will usually cause enough minor soreness for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:44 AM
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....proceeds to try and make himself sound like a badass in every other comment in the thread..... Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:02 PM
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Sure, but that's not an expectation or a condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:50 PM
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Yes. Same as anything else. If someone gives you a free concert ticket you might go and have a good time but if you weren't willing to buy one you weren't all that interested. Anytime someone needs extra incentive it says something about their interest level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:15 PM
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As the pandemic went on, more men were more loudly against the covid measures and more women supported them. Women: more fearful, more cautious, more compliant, reported more negative emotional experiences. Zero surprises there. The premise is in a way correct. Obviously not much changed for socially isolated people having social restrictions. That's where the truth of OPs post ends. Though the broad reality was a mixed bag. Women reported more negative emotional experiences, exhibited greater f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:58 AM
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Absolutely. I'd prefer it. There's always some quality or combination of qualities that attracted her. Why not let it be an inherent one. Of course it's going to need to be in combination with other things if I'm going to take it seriously, otherwise I'm interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:47 AM
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Every scenario is a bit different but yeah, basically that. Occasionally it gets into that in text when they ask. Occasionally it all seems real casual and they don't even ask until after, that can be them just confirming or it can be them getting disappointed. Even then people tend to beg for a little ambiguity most of the time. Even if it's just leaving it open to possibly be more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:40 AM
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See my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 02:21 AM
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Dating around implies something could develop with the right person. Which to be fair is probably almost always true anyhow. Not like anything anyone says is guaranteed. It's not a lie but it's not saying it's not gonna happen either. It's just saying chances are low which is the truth. Still let's people think they might be special though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 02:05 AM
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Oh you're giving hope, youre not making any promises or even any implications though. It's not 100% upfront. Hell honestly even if you try to give your 100% upfront, nobody understands things the same way at all until they experience it and get a feel for it. You'll both have a different idea of what's what anyhow. People don't agree on what ghosting is, or FWB or casual means or...etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:53 AM
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Nobody is ever 100% upfront about anything ever. That said. Right out of the gate is never a good idea. Shortly into things you can be upfront about it. Even most of the women who want casual want plausible deniability. Basically if you're like " I just want to fuck" nobody's really biting. If you're like " yeah im just dating around, having fun blah blah" then the game is on. You have to leave the possibilities open. It's much like looking at a woman and thinking about all the bad things you'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:58 AM
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For women yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:43 PM
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Lol. One of the few things a lot of women will admit is they have a hard time articulating whats attractive to them. They know it when they see it and it changes. They choose, but they choose overwhelmingly reactively.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:37 PM
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The answer here is fairly obvious. It's a turn off when they can tell it's an act. Acting macho will get you nowhere. Being manly will get you almost everywhere. Authenticity not overcompensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:24 PM
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Matches my experience. And it works for everything. Anything that seems difficult to obtain is seen as being more valuable. You can often increase somethings sales by making it pricey...etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 09:34 PM
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Pretty much a no shit. Some people will defend it as safety oriented and a handful of those are correct. Others will defend it as some form of laziness, they're just cowards. If you can't directly state what you want , you're a pussy. It always stems from fear, always. Fear for safety, fear of being uncomfortable... always fear. It's occasionally justified but always fear. Always being a pussy. Most feminine thing that men regularly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:47 AM
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Pretty much a no shit. Some people will defend it as safety oriented and a handful of those are correct. Others will defend it as some form of laziness, they're just cowards. If you can't directly state what you want , you're a pussy. It always stems from fear, always. Fear for safety, fear of being uncomfortable... always fear. It's occasionally justified but always fear. Always being a pussy. Most feminine thing that men regularly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:46 AM
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Anecdotally I know an absolute shit ton of kids raised by single moms that are just fine but I can't refute reality with it. Even if there were enough numbers for kids or specifically boys raised by lesbians Im doubtful anyone would touch that anthill without bias. What numbers there are suggest excellent outcomes but we have to bear in mind that those numbers are taken from only around 80 families. People who had an adjusted average of $57k to spend on getting pregnant, were 90% white, and had …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:12 AM
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You're just late to the party. My comment that Dad being in the picture here made it much less of a worry got plenty of down votes, so I just dropped a summary as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:01 AM
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I mean if you really want the fuck ton of links supporting the idea that's not an issue. The information is very abundant. Here's some of the same information on congressional record for starters. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CREC-2013-06-14/html/CREC-2013-06-14-pt1-PgE878-2.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:22 PM
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Id agree. Even the article I linked goes on to identify that far more single fathers in fact have women in their kids lives as a major difference in why the disparity between single mothers and single fathers children's outcomes. I know I responded to you, which was specifically because you used a lot of " we" so it's not directed at you but I guess my point is for most of these other responses if they didn't include " make sure he has a father figure" then their ideas probably range somewhere b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 06:09 PM
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In fact, the only disadvantage to living with just your father rather than both of your parents appears to be that you are more likely to be promiscuous in adulthood children from single-mother households are 5 times more likely to commit suicide than children from both unbroken households and single-father households, 9 times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape, 20 times more likely to end up in prison an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 05:24 PM
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They are excuses. If they could do it, they would do it. For the hopeless no, they know they can. They just claim it won't matter or maybe have some negative consequence. Which is the excuse not to. The ragiest seem to be more like what we were first discussing. They're reactive and view it all as happening to them. They feel powerless. They're just in the minority among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:54 AM
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Yes, we just see it as a trend with women in general because they tend to be reactive, which lends itself to that attitude more. It's why women in general have a rep for victimhood, lack of accountability, attraction to woo-woo concepts like "signs" etc. If your MO is to manipulate your world indirectly it also lends itself to making attributions to external causes. It encourages your idea of self improvement to also focus on indirect factors. Its difficult to approach any of this from a place o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:21 AM
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Here's the mom that will raise an incel for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:35 AM
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I guess just sharing the same problem. Identifying contributing factors so you can do something about them is one thing. Getting stuck whining about the problem , well, I can see how it can happen if everyone wants to argue about or gaslight about what the factors are or for some who feel they can never overcome the factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:15 PM
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You just described a reactive approach. Which if I took it, and wasn't getting calls, id pretty much have to blame outside forces. Blame the boys, blame my luck, blame other ladies, something. How could I be at fault, I didn't even do anything. Or maybe I did everything... everything I could to indirectly influence the outcome, which still lends itself to blaming outside forces.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:08 PM
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No. Plenty are just whining and wanting their complaints to be validated. Idk whether it's the majority or not, I think there's some mix of both. Sometimes to fix something it first has to be acknowledged though. So it's hard to sort out who's who occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:48 PM
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You aware you just started this comment by deflecting? You took what I said and made it into a claim I never made in the hopes I would have to defend and explain a tangential example. Women are prone to be passive/reactive which lends itself to externalizing causes. When you tend to view life as something that happens to you instead of something you make happen , you will absolutely come off as avoiding accountability. The viewpoint is rife in women's language patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:40 PM
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That's just reacting vs being proactive. " This happened to me, what do I do now?" Vs " How can I plan for and influence the best outcome ahead of time?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:20 PM
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Active vs passive outlooks. "How can I change this" is the active approach. Men are strategizing, women are reacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:19 PM
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It's actually related. When you're more passive and reactive, causes being external is just more attractive. It's why shit like astrology appeals more to women. Seeking counsel on specific scenarios can be rooted in that thinking. It's " this happened to me, what do I do now?" Rather than " how can I proactively make sure this happens?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:14 PM
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Seems to me that's only born of self doubt. It's not on a broad scale because it's not hard in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:04 PM
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You keep saying we so I'm assuming Dad's in the picture. Doubtful there's any worries. I'm convinced a huge part of this issue is just boys raised by mom alone. Psychology and statistics tend to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:58 PM
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Oh boy, this is just another case of thinking the same thing always applies. So sometimes with women casual is just a case of being in the right place at the right time and not being too terrible an option. Now, if she's setting out for casual to begin with, yeah probably higher looks standards because why not? plenty of hotter guys will fuck her casually. If you'll keep in mind that most women don't set out intending on casual much and that they have a mostly responsive sex drive then you'll un…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:57 PM
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Dominance is certainly a factor. Among the women who are ok with it or who have any two men fantasies the majority certainly prefer or would only tolerate their man being a top.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:16 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010440X07001551 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987716304455 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2730646/ https://stop.publichealth.gwu.edu/fast-facts/mental-health-obesity https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0165025417690265 Bitchiness and mental health issues aren't exactly one and the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:42 PM
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Humans are messy and complicated more often than they're not. Yeah for sure, it isn't just women that fall into this trap either. All kinds of people fall for value signaling. People buy expensive things solely because they're expensive, try to impress people who aren't easily impressed, work hard for a small amount of praise from the known asshole etc. Women simp for guys being pricks as much as men simp for bitchy women. Nothing actually wrong with you if you keep it to reasonable level. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:15 PM
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I mean, they offer it. All types too. This myth it's just defective women do it is just wrong. But yes, the offer goes unrealized since you aren't actually accepting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:54 PM
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If you couldn't tell they knew each other, you ruined all credibility of any further opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:24 PM
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You just pulled the equivalent of telling us a certain pro wrestler was going to win because they're a better fighter then expected to still have credibility about the real business end when you're told it's fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:16 PM
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Sure, we should trust the take of a proven mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:59 PM
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Worked for me. The more jaded I was the more women offered me and pedestalized me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:55 PM
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Percent of single males is directly inverse to women's median income over the years. Women's adjusted median income has tripled since 1948, so has the rate of single men. We can wade through the minutiae of all the contributing effects there but the bottom line is that women aren't as interested without financial motivation, never were. If anything there's less wrong with the men now, women just don't have a big sexual motivation so it needs to be other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:27 PM
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Proving you lack the ability to identify independent variables in a scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:50 PM
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. You absolutely choose who you pursue That's exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:00 PM
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Research suggests a correlation between obesity and certain mental health issues, including antisocial behavior, particularly in women, with factors like adverse childhood experiences playing a role. It's very much a useful visual indicator to avoid exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:59 PM
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Well, your interpretation is outed as a poor one. They're both streamers, the scenario is fake but she did indeed have an actual bit of a crush on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:26 PM
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It's not really a double standard. By and large women are the selectors of the species....true for most actually. Who else could we blame but the selectors. It's not to say men don't have a choice but we only choose who to pursue, ( and as a group that includes nearly everyone) but we don't really make the selections if we're being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:56 AM
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Off the immediate subject but I don't see a lot in this whole thread that anyone can really argue with. Basically everything being said by everyone is correct because it's all either: 1 some incomplete part of all the influencing factors for everyone 2 totally true for at least one significant chunk of scenarios we see play out. Basically everything I've seen said from everyone is right, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:52 AM
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That's what I've observed. Women often can't tell you accurately what attracts them because they don't know it until they see it. Just part of having a responsive sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:37 AM
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I wouldn't go that far but it's true that overall women are the selectors. You can certainly place more blame on those with more power and options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:25 AM
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Would guys choose the nice sweet girl whose very plain over a hot bitch? no Yes, unless she's fat. It usually takes some maturing to fully get to that point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:18 AM
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Nothing. They offer nothing to people who think like this. IME it's everything they've got. Just depends on whether you're desirable to begin with. If you are, thinking like this leads to women pedestalizing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:23 AM
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Then again, if you're the type of man who only values the sexual pleasure (and validation) women can give him, they probably don't offer much (if anything). This bit is a little funny honestly. You see this claim throughout this thread but IME this runs on two polar opposite ends of the spectrum. For people like myself thinking that way has typically resulted in women offering everything, anything they could. At my most jaded women would be figuratively throwing themselves at my feet. The women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:19 AM
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Uh, nope. It's quite literally just saying one spouse is dependant and is an extension of duty to support that person as a dependant. The sole purpose of alimony is to assist one spouse financially during and after the divorce and maintain their standard of living Alimony, also known as spousal support, aims to mitigate financial disparities arising from a divorce, ensuring the lower-earning or non-earning spouse can maintain a reasonable standard of living, and potentially become self-sufficien…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:45 PM
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Fading out isnt the same thing. When no party is actually reaching out it's just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:48 PM
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Yes it's always being a pussy. If you can't just state your issue or say what you want, you're being pussillanimous. IRL, text, whatever. Occasionally it's justified but it doesn't change the fact that it's strictly fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:16 PM
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Because they're pussillanimous too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:09 PM
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It's worked for me tons. It's actually how I meet new people in general since you know, before I met them , they were all strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:03 AM
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I'm not sure if it translates into that. I think it has more to do with cues, verbal and visual. Communication in general idk... something of that nature. I don't want to give bad info but I don't think it's quite that encompassing. Though one could certainly argue that alone would influence interests and possibly have some sway towards the whole people/things preferences. As well as perhaps word sensitivity so I could see how it could help the getting along part. You may be right but it's kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:00 PM
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It would be except that marriage isn't random variable. It's dependent and chosen with intentional actions so it comes with a host of covariables that additively correlate to better outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:38 PM
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In statistics, single moms just means “unwed mother”. That doesnt tell me if she’s actually single nor tells me if the baby daddy left. Co-parenting can happen and having a healthy relationship without a ring can happen. The rest of this is a wild rant that would take too long to unravel but I'll just address the blatantly wrong statement here. In the context of statistics, a "single mother" is defined as a woman who is raising a child or children under 18 without a spouse or partner present, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:34 PM
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I mean my rough idea is still pretty flawed but just kind of spitballing. Really the whole approach is wrong. We should just be looking at what actually happens for probability rather than this since we don't actually have to approach delusion from a hypothetical planning standpoint when we already have results. How far are you from normal results would probably the best way to represent delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:20 PM
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Same pew research article. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Among wives ages 25 to 34, 11% are the breadwinner in their marriage, whereas 22% of wives ages 55 to 64 out-earn ... In any case the overall average difference I think tends to be 15% which is why I said if I modified the delusion calculator income requirements would stop counting against you if you were that close in income yourself. It eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:23 PM
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Funny thing is, the younger the couple the more likely they are to have a male primary provider. Which you can try to skew with hard denominations but the standard there is relativity. Saying a 15 or 25k difference is meaningless. When we're saying 50k vs 75 , trying to call that the same bracket is pretty loose terminology. Women over 50 are more than twice as likely to be a primary as women in their 20s So your age consideration actually works against you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:13 PM
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I read an article where they were discussing brain scans. The part of the brain they concentrated on showed that what would be considered autistic for a female actually fell into the normal range for a male. In some cases autistic for a girl is just having normal "boy brain" in the social sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:05 PM
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I guess I should have known you'd be purposely obtuse after disagreeing with a fact ( not quite as flawed as using age as a joint probability multiplier) based on an extraneous opinion. So first of all , no on income. Just 29% of marriages are egalitarian in income. With 55% having the husband as sole or primary earner. Which uses the cutoff of making 150% of what your partner does. Of course you also didnt bother to read that I in fact considered the tendency of income similarities in my adjust…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:36 AM
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You really don't see the irony in the fact that you believe adding a height and income requirement is gender swapping that? The actual male standard in that statement is just 25-35, not fat. Which gives you 55.7% They don't mean average height, average income. That aside, disagree with what? I just pointed out it doesn't cut age out of the general populus and only uses it for distribution. While I don't agree with the ratings due to several other factors, my point is this one doesn't use age as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:57 AM
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This one in particular isn't quite that flawed. It's actually taking percentages out of the chosen age bracket and accounting for correlation at least for income. For instance with no other selected standards choosing a 5yr bracket results in a 100%. At 20-26 choosing just a 15k minimum cuts it to 60 some percent. But changing just the age range to 35-45 results in an 88%. So at least it's not simply slicing out of the total population for age bracket and is accounting for income correlation. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:50 PM
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Natural in this sense is an inherent tendency.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:37 PM
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No I'm saying you're an idiot if you think the minority determines generality. Although yes, a man weaker than a woman, all else being equal is not as natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:34 PM
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Sure we can. Just like can say men are naturally stronger even if some are weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:11 PM
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Is this not obvious? No matter what overall trend that exists there will always be some who don't follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:17 PM
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The hell does this have to do with PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:41 PM
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Well, no, normal is normal. Abnormal is unusual. But then they wouldn't be normal if most women didn't have them, lol. Guess it's kind of in the definition since everything is relative. Large labia are only large in comparison to average eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:07 PM
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I did, and you responded to that with " only top 1%" lol. I have my pick of women, of course she's gorgeous. All she has to do to get all the attention is throw on a dress or something form fitting instead of her usual loose pants,sweater,scarf getup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:04 PM
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Lol. I think we've identified the issue. You think only superhuman women are normal BMI. Despite the epidemic of blubber, about 40% manage it. My SO doesn't even wear makeup. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:46 AM
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Congratulations! You've discovered that there can be unattractive natural traits. Now you just have to figure out that there can also be lots of attractive natural traits and that many women do in fact have them. Btw flat tummy's, non saggy tits, and non flat butts are all over the place, id say more normal bmi women have them then don't. Same for normal labia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:40 AM
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You really don't understand taking care of yourself. Not having a decent haircut isn't unhealthy either but getting one is taking care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:32 AM
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Wtf is this? Hopscotch? You seem to just sort of tie together 6 subjects while jumping giant gaps between them but assuming you've made a chain of your thoughts. Everyone prioritizes their own needs and desires. Non of this has shit to do with (self-) entitlement. And finally ending with one question..."do women love their partners?" .. with an obvious answer, yes, some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:32 AM
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I'm not sure it would even make sense to do it any other way. Let everyone sweep in front of their own door and the whole street will be clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:39 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm guessing you're misidentifying me. Mistaking me for OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:14 AM
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Wait, so you were just quibbling all along? I can't decide if this is hysterical or just annoying. Basically. You kind of went on a side rant about absolute statements in response to a couple of comments about generalizations. They're different. Even if accusatory or negative generalizations beg to be challenged. Which just ends up in everyone getting to see actual numbers ( hopefully) so it has its purpose in tempering peoples perceptions. We're not on very different pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:02 AM
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We don't always need a quantifier. " Women like flowers" is understood to be a generalization. "Why do women like flowers?" Presumes a generalization and adds a question. Neither need a "some" or "most" modifier. The presumption is a majority." All " is not assumed unless stated. Even then it's often assumed to be hyperbole. Of course, the more jabbing the statement the more likely it is to be taken as inflammatory and the more it calls for quantification.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:36 PM
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Well then it'll likely be out of context since idk what you're actually referencing because I literally can't see from your point of view. I'll treat all that as some vague preface and answer your questions as independent ones I am someone people often will react to with " you're such a guy" or call "mans man".I'm not big on performative and I'm ridiculously comfortable so give me pink shit, get me dancing, put makeup on me , I don't care. Attempts at emasculating even for fun nearly always just…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:05 PM
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You're going to have to qualify a whole lot of that before anyone can respond. You gave us a vague opinion with no examples. Show us some posts you interpret that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:19 PM
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Absolutes are nearly always wrong. Generalizing doesn't discount the possibility of exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:13 PM
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Obviously. A custodial parent doesn't pay support.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:55 PM
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if she was taking care of domestic and parental tasks, why wouldn't you support her? Are you asking for extra credit? How much would it cost to replace her with paid professionals? Irrelevant to financial self sufficiency. But she certainly cost me more than daycare. In fact I had more disposable income after she left. I chose to have children I could afford on my own if need be, like a responsible independent person does. Same way I chose to buy a house based on my income despite her plans/prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:44 PM
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Then why are we assuming the government has to step in? That only applies to someone incapable of supporting a child. I've raised children without any financial assistance. Hell I even supported their mother to boot. , a small proportion of their salary Yes most often about 50% of net.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:48 PM
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Yes, because the alternative is expecting the government to step in and force taxpayers who did not spray sperm inside a woman they did not commit to cover the expense of raising the child. So we assume women who get pregnant are not capable of financial responsibility and aren't expected to be but men are? The only choices here are daddy or daddy government? This is largely academic but your framing paints women as incapable and dependant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:22 AM
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You really don't understand how a sub that debates intersex dynamics on a macro level would need to deal in generality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:17 AM
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Good luck finding a stalker I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:34 PM
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Good luck finding a stalker I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:33 PM
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And if that's the case then there's no motivation to perform them. If they weren't associated with men to begin with they wouldn't be masculine. You can't define something by saying it is itself. Besides, the very concept it's purely performance is crackpot theoretical philosophy. We can change appearance and behavior drastically between the two by manipulating hormones within the same person. Eliminating the nurture variable still shows us differences, thereby eliminating it's possibility as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:07 PM
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Actually let's just destroy your whole premise real quick. We can change both appearance and behavior between masculine and feminine by adjusting hormones. Regardless of nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:12 PM
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Animals don’t associate certain colors with specific sexes Uhm...might want to rethink that one. I think on reexamination you'll find that's patently and somewhat obviously false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:45 PM
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Drivel. Your entire argument relies on accepting nurture as the sole influence and assuming that social constructs spring from absolutely nothing. ( Easily disproven btw) It's predicated on the wacko propositions of a handful of philosophical theorists while ignoring mountains of real science. It's also circular logic. " Masculinity is performing masculine acts" hmm, so masculinity needs to exist before it can be performed so if it's only a performance then it doesn't exist. Seems we have a para…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:17 PM
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They're legally obligated to stop serving someone who's too drunk . A bartender's legal duty to stop serving a patron is when they are "visibly intoxicated," meaning a person's mental or physical functioning appears significantly impaired by alcohol But then there is the key, it becomes the servers responsibility when the customer becomes mentally impaired. So I guess if we assume women are mentally impaired by sex then the guy has a responsibility to make good decisions for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:25 AM
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Abartender's legal duty to stop serving a patron is when they are "visibly intoxicated," meaning a person's mental or physical functioning appears significantly impaired So in this case we must be assuming women are mentally impaired. That would in fact place the responsibility of what's good for her on the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:23 AM
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An example of this is a bar bar cutting off a patron from buying more alcohol This is literally based on the premise that the customer is no longer capable of making their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:17 PM
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Guess I'm used to it from the theological or naturalist sense. Perhaps custodian would be more fitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:13 PM
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I wouldn't expect the food vendors to be my steward regardless. I'm not their child. You do see how you're infantilizing women here right? The only way they're morally obligated to shield me is if I'm a child or mentally deficient. They must see me as incapable or lesser than to be taking advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:58 PM
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So men are to play women's stewards because they aren't capable of making the right choices themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:54 PM
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If I keep buying fries hoping they'll give me a free burger, despite them telling me I can't have a burger are they wrong to keep selling me fries? Even if they know what I want there's no implicit contract they're breeching by not giving me something that was never part of the deal. Expecting otherwise is pure self entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:51 PM
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This element is just the most visible. It's often about her getting something she wants without accountability. She gets something dirty she doesn't have to ask for, or even choose. It's not her fault basically. There's often an element of repression that feeds into it. ( Whether she actually enjoys what is forced can go either way. Some actually want to hate what happened and sort of dive into the shame) But I think you're also partly right on the men's side. I'll give the evidence that these f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:48 PM
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I'm not surprised in the slightest. I could go on at length what I observed or gathered from conversations with clients ( as a former gigolo) why women seem to like what they do there. Basically all the core elements of this are attractive to women. The bottom line is it comes down to the fact that mens general urges are not as repressed. Even if some elements of this are attractive as the perpetrator, it doesn't fester and grow because those elements are already openly exercised for men. I'll l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:34 PM
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Likely a bit less war oriented. Between observations of extant hunter gatherer tribes, some evo psych, and genetic archaeology the picture seems to be that regardless of reason, women tended to travel more. In the sense that they are/were more likely to leave a familial group. They're friendlier to outsiders ( the reverse is also true), more likely to group hop on their own, and of course yes they were often spared and absorbed in war scenarios ( but that doesn't become a major player until 7-80…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:17 PM
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Yes 100. On an individual level no, my ad may only influence a small portion of people. But someone else's got to others and so on and so forth until the overlap reaches everyone. Everyone's objection and thinking they are immune to influence and manipulation exactly mirrors what people think of themselves with advertising and marketing. https://scottfenstermaker.com/third-person-effect/ As soon as someone says, it doesn't work on me but maybe it will on x type of person. We know they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:25 PM
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Works on everyone to varying degrees. As I said unhealthy behavior is just normal behavior exaggerated. Same can be said of seduction tactics. Trying to use your best pictures on OLD? That's just presentation. Trying to play it cool when you know you're overly excited, check. All it is is emulating what attractive people do. Like anything else, can you be far enough to one end of the spectrum with it to where it crosses into unhealthy or immoral ? Yes. Again, unhealthy behavior is just normal be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:15 PM
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Unless you think all men will just stop presenting themselves or pursuing, then I guess that proves the point that having the skills to give an edge is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:37 AM
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Yes they do. Just not 100% of the time. Unless youre in some uncontacted tribe in the rainforest then marketing has 100% affected your purchase decisions. There isn't a person alive who is immune to manipulation. Also RP doesn't work or not work, it's just descriptive, though far too absolutist to be correct. PUA/ seduction, yes it works, in the sense that it will improve the success of 90% of people that learn anything from it. And I'd be more like some decadent food product. Good but not good …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:09 PM
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As stated. Bearing in mind that both are actually pseudo-romantic relationships. If I had to guess it's maybe more to do with one being a gender role reversal while the other is not. One mirrors a typical acceptable romance, the other would be anomalous. As a lot of comments have already hinted at. Stupidly, even disturbingly, in this context the intersexual dynamic is emphasized over parent/child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:28 PM
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Doubtful it's that polarized. Almost nothing is. Probably that effort is more relative to where you are on a spectrum. To say nothing of the ability of absence to amplify value. Of course, it's also a good way to find out if you're undervalued or just being taken for granted. You can't create from nothing but you can amplify. It's just a human reaction. If you're chased, you run. If they stop and you enjoyed it, you'll antagonize it. If they run , you may chase. It's just one tool in the pouch t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:08 PM
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I have a different experience but I realize we're speaking in generalizations. You're saying women won't fight for him because he's not seen as valuable. So I guess my experience is different because I'm seen as valuable. My conclusion, they will if you're seen as valuable. So first you have to create a valuable product, or at least the illusion of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:16 PM
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Yeah so someone has to get there in the first place. So now you're less susceptible, doesn't mean you're immune. Right, so pushy tactics won't work. The exact kind of person you don't want to seem too available to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:59 PM
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I have news for you. You're always in latent competition no matter what. We can pretty much guarantee that if no other woman on earth wants him, you don't either. You won't see him as valuable. It's either direct or indirect. Again unhealthy behavior is just normal behavior exaggerated. You wouldn't go for a man who's singularly obsessed with you from the get go. So guess what, you're competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:37 PM
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You can't predict the future. So you can only either believe or disbelieve something will make your life better. We all want to believe we aren't susceptible to manipulation but we all are. When you recognize someone's pushing it's a turn off for you. Great. That tells me specific tactics wouldn't work. I guarantee %100 that your purchasing decisions have been influenced by marketing. That holds true for everyone who's ever made a purchasing decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:28 PM
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Oh I get it. You're trying to take the ultimate result of someone pulling away for far too long and even telling you they didn't want to talk as evidence that pulling away to increase someone's efforts doesn't work. You self admit that it does though. At least for a while. Emulating that ' distance for acceptable reasons' temporarily to attract attention allows you to then do what you wish with that attention. Create a bond through shared experience. Just get attention. Keep the person preoccupi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:22 PM
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Yeah, literally everyone claims that. Yet it's proven to be false. Will make your life better. Yeah, thats what you have to be made to believe. There are a million ways to accomplish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:49 PM
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The dissonance it takes for you to say it led you to put in more effort and also say it doesnt work at the same time is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:45 PM
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Guess I'm reposting here; Spoiled, protected, dependant are all qualities of both. Guess which sex those qualities are considered acceptable, if not laudable in........ If we delve deeper both are actually pseudo-romantic relationships. I have no idea why pseudo-romance between father and daughter isn't considered as gross as between mother and son but we see it in the calling a partner daddy shit as well. That's some deep dark human psychology at work there. You can often even see these fathers…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:42 PM
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Id argue that only a low self esteem woman would have that take. " I'd rather just give up if it's not 100% guaranteed win" is the epitomy of low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:37 PM
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No , they just need to make you feel like it will. Same thing for sales. Sometimes that involves negative tactics like false time constraints, exclusivity, scarcity. Sometimes it's positive like feature-benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:31 PM
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Not buying every last thing pitched to you doesn't mean that ads and sales tactics haven't helped persuade you to buy the things you did buy. They certainly helped persuade the people who did and it's not because they're lesser than you somehow. The idea that tactics don't help is laughable to anyone who's done sales or realty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:23 PM
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Yeah and according to your own description it worked until the distance bit went too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:19 PM
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That's my experience. Same as sales. You need a product people might actually want to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:16 PM
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Being a foreigner from a wealthy country can make you seem exotic Hell, I can pick up hotter women than usual in Europe or OZ. You can get an edge just about anywhere. It works the other way around just as well. I'm sure if you ask any of our UK brothers who have visited the states they'll tell you they picked up an edge. I know plenty of Colombian and Brazilian men who can tell you they picked up an edge in the US (although most will also tell you that American women " don't take care of themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:01 AM
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I'll just ignore the myriad of other contributors and your other obviously deluded statements to focus on one aspect; Even if all else was equal, women won't approach or risk rejection. Hell they couldn't even get em to send the first message. You'd have to have women willing to take initiative and seek to have PUA for women. We all know that's a non-starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:40 AM
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If I had to guess it's maybe more to do with one being a gender role reversal while the other is not. One mirrors a typical acceptable romance, the other would be anomalous. As a lot of comments have already hinted at. Stupidly, even disturbingly, in this context the intersexual dynamic is emphasized over parent/child.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:35 PM
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Here comes the parade of women with false pride to claim " it doesn't work on me" And the parade of virtue signalers claiming this only works on mentally ill women or low self esteem women. Yeah... everyone claims advertising and sales tactics don't work on them too. I laugh at them too. Does it work on unhealthy people? Sure. Why? Because it works on normal people and unhealthy behaviors are just normal behaviors exaggerated. If it works on someone with low self esteem then with a little skill …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:44 PM
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I suspect that if momma's boy meant you had a pseudo romantic relationship with your mother but played the dominant, protective, spoiling role the connotation would not be negative. We see a bit of that with some stars in fact, and it's not frowned upon
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:55 PM
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Yes, and the reason why is that if we take two identical relationships and compare them the boy will be seen as overly attached, submissive, dependant. The girl will be seen as normal for the same behavior. Because we have different expectations for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:41 PM
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Again "unduly" is only applicable because the same attachment and submission would simply be considered close for a woman and her father. Both are honestly just very close relationships, with very similar if not identical aspects. Both spoiled, protected, dependant. Both are in fact pseudo romantic relationships....which is another can of worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:29 PM
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Spoiled, protected, dependant are all qualities of both. Guess which sex those qualities are considered acceptable, if not laudable in........ If we delve deeper both are actually pseudo-romantic relationships. I have no idea why pseudo-romance between father and daughter isn't considered as gross as between mother and son but we see it in the calling a partner daddy shit as well. That's some deep dark human psychology at work there. You can often even see these fathers' " protectiveness" mirror…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:15 PM
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Still very much the same. Is a daddy's girl not overly protected? A momma's boy is dependant on his mother when he's expected to be independent. The only difference here is that it's simply not expected for a woman to be independent. It's acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:11 PM
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Nobody said it's inherent. Its just what people imply when they say it. In a like for like transaction nobody is calling it transactional. If I trade you a hug for a hug it's a transaction but nobody is describing it as transactional. While it's correct, everything is a transaction we usually limit that description to non like for like trades where both parties have plenty of choice. First definition is " related to conducting business" Cold, business like, amoral, pragmatic would be synonymous …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:27 PM
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Yes they are but when people say transactional they're implying that the exchange is either not like for like, or is imbalanced/unfair in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:38 PM
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Everyones attraction is relative. https://news.utexas.edu/2016/05/17/relationship-satisfaction-depends-on-the-mating-pool/#:~:text=The%20study%20discovered%20that%20satisfaction%20was%20not,desirable%20than%20themselves%20were%20satisfied%20whether%20or What you're mostly seeing is that men are more likely to see their partner ( and likely most potential mates) as more attractive than themselves. https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/36102-body-image-romantic-partners-body Men (37%) in relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:08 AM
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While admitting that you were glued to the phone and making extra effort when he said he didn't want to talk to you. Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:08 AM
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Because for them it's a given. We chase what we don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:33 AM
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Everyone responds to it to one degree or another. Everyone only wants what they don't have. Healthy people won't take to an extreme. Pretty much all unhealthy behavior is normal behavior taken to an extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:04 AM
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That's also what had you waiting by the phone and moving cities to be with someone who didn't even want to talk anymore. It's easy to " move on" so long as he's chasing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:06 PM
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Just update us when he drops off again and then you start chasing " the love of your life" once more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:55 PM
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He shit himself when the chick who sat by the phone and worked hard to change her whole life around stopped keeping herself on the hook. You two are playing push pull with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:42 PM
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He broke it off with you twice, for months and you believe it when he " admits" it was just " dreadgame" lol. This was just you getting tired of keeping yourself on the hook and him shitting himself when he realized you weren't anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:11 PM
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Clearly it did work on you. Problem is he lost interest and started actually chasing someone else. When that didn't work he turned back to you but it was either too late or now that hes chasing you , hes not so interesting to you anymore. His telling you it was some purposeful game is mostly if not all just a cover for the truth. It sounds better to say " I was actually interested in you all along but I was trying to game you to make sure you stayed interested " than to say " well you were long …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:59 PM
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Id call that fairly accurate. Where we're getting mixed up is when I say priorities I'm referring to qualities in a partner. Goals as what kind of relationship is sought. So...men prioritize pretty. That stays consistent. The goal changes from sex to partnership/investment. Women have a commitment goal but change the qualities up. Some men view this as a choice of sensibility that drives a compromise and conclude she's not truly attracted to the stable provider who maybe isn't as handsome, faili…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:33 PM
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I would be more of the opinion that women change their goal less but priorities more. Men change their goal more but priorities less. Essentially women are always looking for commitment but the men they're targeting changes pretty dramatically. Men are always looking for the hot chick but what they want with her changes more dramatically. For women even though the goal was always the same, the type of man changes. Probably just a result of changing from impractical idealism to being more realist…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:25 PM
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It doesn't matter that they aren't consciously choosing a dual strategy. It's functionally the same thing. In fact it's purportedly subconscious. To them they're just always choosing the best. Necessarily that means the best at the present moment. Over time their priorities tend to change. This is presented as dual strategy. Arguably it's just maturing. Eg. She might go for the hot beach bum surfer dude or musician at 19 but later she's targeting the engineer. He might try to fuck everything tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:14 AM
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always been curious if there was a correlation between people with greater responsibility/power in their day-to-day lives preferring to be submissive in the bedroom and vice versa, but it's not really dinner party conversation so I've kept it to myself Idk if there's real numbers but it's certainly a trope and not just among the populace but recognized as common in psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:58 PM
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The men who do that are shooting themselves in the foot but that's beside the point. You are sort of correct about the getting matches part. It's not an indicator of your desirability but not for the reason you say. Whether or not you're desirable is determined by whether the people you want also want you. Most of us aren't reading until matching. We swipe on who we think is attractive, then look at matches details. It's a sub second decision while swiping and requires near zero effort. After a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:49 PM
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I know that's how I did it. Swipe for pretty, read once matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:37 PM
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This is you viewing it from an analytical perspective, in the now and talking about what should be instead of what is. Evo psych is implying instinct and focused far more in our development as a species. These sorts of impulses would probably even predate actual modern humans. Which is of course why it makes sense that we see the more rudimentary forms in low SES scenarios. The other end here would be me saying, men should try to have sex with as few women as possible because every encounter is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:36 PM
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I very much doubt it has anything to do with desperation. Honestly it's just advantageous. It's not unlike anything else, putting all your eggs in one basket is simply risky. For both sexes it is simply a way of having your cake and eating it too. If we take the evo psych approach for women then we're looking at paternity confusion resulting in more resources, dominant and physically powerful fathers for genetics and agreeable providers for stability. For men it's simply advantageous to cast wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:54 AM
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Maybe in your opinion, but that's not what OP said. I certainly don't, nor anyone with any hint about their ELO system.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:56 PM
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For me it's simpler than that. I , like many men are going to choose among what's available. I'm swiping whoever looks good. If we match then I'll read your profile. Besides, we all know what women say and do are very different things. There are enough that do this that men don't trust what you say enough to self disqualify. So it may or may not change things in that department. If you have some cringe bs then I'll unmatch you after I see it. Hell, many of the women who pursued me hardest had li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:22 PM
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Spend some time on the tinder sub. You'll find out all about how ELO works, but in the meantime here's some basics. https://textgod.com/tinder-elo-score/#:~:text=to%20get%20them.-,What%20is%20Tinder%20ELO%20score%3F,still%20plays%20a%20big%20role. Who swipes you. The more desirable they are, the higher Tinder rates your ELO score.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:13 PM
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Well, no the premise of the OP is that the profiles aren't being read, not that they aren't selecting for looks. The only mention of attractiveness or looks is that even "uggos" get a lot of likes. Which he attributes to men as a whole being less picky. He says nothing of individuals ignoring attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:10 PM
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Ehhh .. it's largely agreed that if youre swiping on low ranked users your own rank drops, or if a higher ranked user swipes on you it brings your rank up. This is how they decide if you are Chad or not. It's partly how many swipes you get but also partly from who.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:02 PM
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This is where I think a lot of confusion for some of the guys here comes in. Hookup material is often just the right place, right time and not too awful. While they tend to only think of either the guy you were just way too tempted by or the guy you went for that you may or may not have been aware you had little to no hope or interest in locking down but regardless went for almost exclusively because of looks. The reality is that the benefit they are swooning over is really mostly new relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:54 PM
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While id mostly agree, I've seen it go both ways. Even in myself. Through my glo-up I went from unattractive good guy ( thought any woman I got was rare gold) to pretty attractive bad guy ( needed validation). To very attractive bad guy ( taking all I could get) to very attractive good guy ( getting hit on regularly is so usual it's just not a big tempting deal). Of course I've also seen the not so attractive guys tack on some bad insecure behaviors too but that seems to be able to hit at any le…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:01 PM
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I've seen it go both ways. Even in myself. Through my glo-up I went from unattractive good guy ( thought any woman I got was rare gold) to pretty attractive bad guy ( needed validation). To very attractive bad guy ( taking all I could get) to very attractive good guy ( getting hit on regularly is so usual it's just not a big tempting deal).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:46 PM
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Nah, they'll claim demi or sapio. It's just miraculously circumstantial that there are no ugly smart people nor ones they emotionally connect with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:10 PM
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Apparently youve missed the popularity of claiming " I'm demi" or sapio
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:05 PM
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Yeah, this is kind of like announcing " let us know if you can't hear this announcement"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:55 PM
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There are lots of factors already discussed. Other bits aside, even if they went away for the most part, making it perfectly plausible, women aren't generous with men so there isn't any benefit to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:40 PM
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There's never enough You're still pursuing your partner Usually raising kids and making money/comfort
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:51 PM
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You don't think far more people are willing to help women in every way possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:14 PM
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If you want a guarantee I'll pay then I need a guaranteed return. Let's call it what it is at that point, prostitution. Flip it around. A man says I expect you to put out on this date. If you're not any chance of me paying goes out the window. Sound ridiculous? I don't think I've ever not paid but if you want to demand a specific transaction then I'm not paying for chances. Bear in mind your wording set up the exchange of sex for money...hell it most likely would even hold up in court as solicit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:12 PM
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It's more like stoic , the adjective, Webster's number 2. Or oxford English stoicism. Not stoicism the philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:07 PM
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I have been. For ten years I was 100% provider. ( Wife, two kids and her parents for a few years ( minus the $300/MO they put in)) Id still run away from that shit. " You love me right" " gimme money" Sounds like a 5yr old. And if you put me on the spot I'm more likely to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:58 PM
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I think a lot of us are missing the point while nitpicking the examples. Yes women are allowed to be bad at things, men are assumed to be competent. Yes it is sexist, and it is highly engrained. That extends beyond the scope of just weaponized incompetence. It is a pervasive phenomenon that men are often assumed to be competent in many situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:01 AM
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What would make men bad at cooking and cleaning? Cleaning; They aren't, just ask any veteran. Though I will say every woman I've been with is far more efficient at straightening up when there's a myriad of things that may not have a designated space. Cooking; Chef is a male dominated profession so i doubt there's a skill difference here though there may be some nuance in remembering the details of what and how everyone likes things. What would make women, as a group, bad at loading dishwashers? …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:49 AM
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a mother wouldn't put herself in harm's way for someone physically weaker This is protecting, although limited. As with most human traits,whether they are masculine or feminine is often relative or comparative. The rest is nurturing. When guys fight and there's women around they always try to break them up This is diplomacy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:31 PM
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Leadership is the main thing I commonly see being attributed as masculine that I must disagree with. If people said authoritative id agree. Men tend to have authoritative leadership styles. Women make great leaders , they just tend to be more collaborative and democratic. I think authoritative being confused for the only leadership style is the root of this misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:29 PM
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Also I'd like to see some stats about this, I've seen plenty of women try to break up street fights even though the guys fighting were stronger than her That would be diplomacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:16 PM
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You're referring to nurturing. Take care of, is nurturing. This isn't protecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:14 PM
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Not specifically. Dominance ,strength and aggression are, which are elements that contribute to effective violence but violence itself no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:11 PM
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I'm not sure I understand entirely. No, most people don't care if a woman is strong. Some other traits I suppose so, but they're low priority for one sex vs the other, or vice versa. Also id like to point out the irony that you keep saying gender since the word specifically is defined by traits. Male gender having masculine traits and female gender having feminine traits. From your standpoint, sex would be far more appropriate if you believe masculine and feminine traits are just human traits. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:22 PM
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I'm strong...lots of men are strong, not all have to be. A handful of women are too. That's all okay. My gf likes that I'm strong, I couldn't care less if she is. None of it implies adherence, nor does a handful of women being strong make it just a human trait. Some minivans are fast, it doesn't make it a trait less associated with sports cars, nor does it make it a general car trait. Nor make people commonly value speed in a minivan. It's not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:10 PM
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"Gender roles" implies active restrictions, so no. That doesn't mean I can't recognize constellations of common behavior coalescing around one sex or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:12 PM
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" can be possessed by" isn't a disqualifier for what is masculine or what is feminine. Eg. Nurturing is considered a feminine quality. Why? Not because men can't have it but because more women do in higher amounts and both men and women consider it a highly valued trait in a woman. There are traits that tend to cluster around one sex or the other and there are traits that tend to be considered more important in one sex vs the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:07 PM
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While I basically agree. Keep in mind the term was actually coined by the mythopoetic mens movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:03 PM
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Masculine; having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with men or boys So yes "toxic masculinity" is just saying toxicity is associated with men or boys. At best it's just assigning socially destructive behavior to men. " Machismo" is likely a more fitting term. It has the connotation of belief that men are superior to women, taking excessive pride in masculine traits, etc. It's basically taking actually masculine traits and exaggerating them to a point of being harmful. You're r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:59 PM
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That's what worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:39 AM
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I think the key to making this more understandable is basically that pigeonholing is the real issue. No, it's not automatically bad to sexualize. We basically all like being sexualized in one context or another, objectification is part of that. We don't like being restricted to that, people want to be seen as more. The overall message is " ok cool, see that, but see the rest too" The other issue is consent. Which can be tricky when it comes to objectification or sexualization. All we can really …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:13 AM
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It should be a fairly low investment on both ends when you're just meeting someone for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:45 AM
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Oh boy, how do I explain this..... Those words are coined by feminists and apply assuming the existence of the institution that is the patriarchy. Take away institutionalism and those words don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:55 AM
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Clearly the people asking about the terms. Like OP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:33 AM
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That's where all these terms come from essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:43 PM
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I think you're confusing the fact that men are naturally more authoritative and individually decisive for being natural leaders. Authoritative is just one style. Women are excellent leaders, just more collaborative and democratic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:02 PM
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The fact that you swapped "struggle with" to" incapable" is telling. Bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:56 PM
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I can certainly give you the others but leadership empirically doesn't show a bias. Men and women tend to have different leadership styles, and some may be more effective in certain environments than others but as a general statement it doesn't hold true that one or the other fares better. Women tend to have a more collaborative and democratic leadership style. ( Which makes sense when we look at female organization structures which tend to resemble interconnected hubs rather than linear hierarc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:44 PM
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Just look for equal effort. Yes it's tit for tat essentially. As with any sort of relationship with anyone you invest on a trust building basis. Have they invested something little? Match it. Then invest a little more and wait for them to match that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:11 PM
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From an institutional standpoint the isms need to come from a position of power. Racism, sexism etc. While privilege is only held by those in power. Male privilege, white privilege etc. So defining things this way is reinforcing the theory of patriarchy as being in power. Positive isms are systematically granted to others by those in power , while privilege can be self given. If you consider both sides relatively even within the scope of the scenario then yes, benevolent sexism could just be vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:22 PM
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Probably so in reality but from a certain perspective and certain definitions the isms need to come from a position of power. Racism, sexism etc. While privilege is only held by those in power. Male privilege, white privilege etc. So defining things this way is reinforcing the theory of patriarchy as being in power. Positive isms are granted by those in power while privilege is self given.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:08 PM
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Maybe use a dictionary over strictly pop culture definitions. Entitled 1 : having a right to certain benefits or privileges Examples; Of course, he's entitled to his opinion but I think he's wrong. Passengers will be entitled to a full refund of the cost of the ticket. The authorities were entitled to act as they did. The discount vouchers entitle you to money off your electricity bill. Employees are entitled to a 20% discount. What we can expect per an agreement is an entitlement. We are entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:17 PM
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Oh I do. You however clearly do not. Entitled does have a primary meaning that does not include expecting something undeserved or unreasonable. We can reasonably expect and deserve to have those things from our partners, in other words we are in fact entitled by our agreement , and not in the snarky buzzword kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:02 PM
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Plenty of other things have been discussed. I'll just add this; Habituation can in fact be the primary killer of interest. Only when habituation is the primary culprit are withdrawal or dread game the only actionable solutions without ending the relationship. Still, just show that fucking someone else is a real possibility first, if that doesn't work, ask if it's okay if you do. Chances are that will accomplish what you want anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:55 PM
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Even if someone frames their low libido as "changing their minds" it's rarely ever the case. All of those stories about someone's marriage suddenly going up in flames are rarely ever sudden. There are always signs of someone's waning interest even if the person telling the story didn't notice That really doesn't even reframe anything. Slow or fast it's still a change of mind. Sometimes people do just get bored. Habituation can be the primary killer of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:48 PM
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If I work I'm entitled to a paycheck. If I agree to be in a monogamous sexual relationship with someone we are entitled to each other's time, attention,bodies, loyalty etc. to whatever degree we've agreed upon , either directly or by precedent otherwise there is no relationship, it's what defines being in a monogamous sexual relationship. If I don't get payed, I complain, then I quit. If I'm unsatisfied in my relationship I discuss, and then I quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:04 PM
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No one is entitled to anyone’s body Not really true. A monogamous sexual relationship is just that. In the same way one is entitled to loyalty in such a relationship one is also entitled to sexual contact. It's the agreement that makes it what it is. The when unfulfilled however the recourse is discussion and ultimately is to simply end the agreement ( the relationship)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:57 PM
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I haven't experienced that with most of my partners either. Like yes, cycle effects libido, thats generally proven but never that I can think of have I had a woman consistently not want sex at all at any certain point in her cycle. Only exception being some with a hangup about a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:56 AM
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Honestly I think that's at the core for everyone. A lot of people like to dress up their motivations but at the end of the day when we say relationship we are referring to sexual relationships. If it weren't the case everything else can be had from friendships. Basically everything but sexual contact ( in the broad sense)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:46 AM
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I'm attaching no emotion to that, it's just the reality. I also don't need specific anecdote after anecdote. Because I'm not speaking of the exceptions but rather the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:36 AM
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The "women are just as horny/hornier than men" argument is asinine and been disproven a million times over. The past gave women that as a way to vilify them and make them seem unable to control their urges. The statistically far more likely explanation for your girlfriends is that their sex drive has exceeded their sex appeal or they're simply exaggerating because they finally get turned down occasionally. . Nah if you get a woman with a low libido she’s either actually asexual, unhealthy, or ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:55 AM
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Lol. All stats and studies say otherwise. Bell curve for women's libido may peak in mid 30's, it's still the top 20% or so of women overlapping the bottom 20% or so of men. There is no point at which the average woman's sex drive outpaces the average mans. Besides, that's immaterial to whether the phenomenon of experiencing a period of low libido effects men and women equally....which it clearly does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:58 AM
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There's a confusion between the two meanings. One is actually having a certain right or benefit. Usually by earning it. Often by agreement. Sometimes by precedent. The other is being spoiled enough to believe you do, when you don't. I'm entitled to my paycheck when I work for it and people are entitled to certain benefits in a relationship, which are mutually understood. In both instances the offended parties usual recourse is to end the agreement. Doing so doesn't qualify the offended as the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 10:30 PM
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It affects men and women equally Uhh, nope, not even close. Women: Up to 70% of women experience low libido at any given time. Men: Up to 1 in 5 men experience low libido at some point in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:56 PM
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That was my initial reaction but as long winded and conspiratorial as this post sounds I think he could have broke his real question down to...."maybe what you went for was the right thing at the time?....ever thought of that...huh?...huh?" Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:49 PM
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It's a scenario that happens a lot. What they're doing is simply ignoring commonality. Eg. Is nurturing feminine? Yes. Does that mean men aren't nurturing? No. Is it a quality more common to women ? Yes. Do men and women both place more importance on it as a quality in a woman? Yes. My SO, self proclaimed feminist that she is , had a little bit of a realization over the weekend; She was moving. It was just her and I. Of course I moved all the furniture myself. She packed boxes, organized all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:38 PM
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My bc is mid hundred somewhere, not counting those from porn or my stint as a gigolo. I find it easier than when my bc was low and I was curious and also had something to prove. Doesn't seem nearly as special when it's lacking deep feelings. ( That part can be a double edged sword. For some that means it doesn't seem so sacred the other way around either) See 1 Yes, it's not serious. Mostly just friendly, I like to hand out compliments. Guys, young ladies, old ladies, whatever. It's fun to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:12 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/cms/10.1177/1474704917690401/asset/images/large/10.1177_1474704917690401-fig1.jpeg https://ontd-political.livejournal.com/5447653.html These give a better idea of what women are seeking out, and about how many. The 50th percentile goes a pretty big ways up by the time theyre 25+ with it hitting the ten year older Mark by the time they're 22. By the time they're 27 it's hitting age 40. Men hit 35, they really aren't all that interested in under 25 either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:44 AM
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On that note, do you think getting very little attention among 20yr olds when you're 20 is prime, or getting massive options and attention among 29 yr olds when youre 38? Desirability only counts among your target audience. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ This I find rather accurate. Easiest age for men to attract women they want is 30-50 with 50 actually being the peak, but only marginally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:28 AM
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Believe it or not, peak desirability for men is around 50. No that doesn't mean for getting 20yr olds, just means overall, average, easiest time to get women. However it's a pretty slow and not very significant rise from about 30 onward. 18 yr old man has about as easy of a time as a 50 yr old woman. It's about even at around 33 for men and women. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ In my personal experience, I don't go past ten years youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:09 AM
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Relationship vs hookup (or sometimes just initial draw) Even within the relationship basically context appropriate. Lady in the streets, freak in the sheets and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:51 AM
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With this as context yeah, you can assume a lot are flirting attempts. You're hot, own it. Quit with goddamned neuroticism. I'll add though that with the pink hair the catcalling honking shit could also be more insulting than acknowledging attractiveness. It's more likely to be along the lines of making fun of you for your different look. It's the low intellect " oh different, attack" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:03 PM
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Almost all flirting. The honking is just catcalling ...very different than flirting, just plain rude but still acknowledging attractiveness. Some of those just depend on more context though, they can be just nice or friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:57 PM
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There will always be people who want to play victim. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:51 PM
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We could dissect why the burly ,scarred, big guy with a heart mom tattoo or the muscle man crying from an insult are used as comedic irony. We could dissect why a teenage skater boy with all the piercings taking time to teach a little girl makes the story extraordinarily endearing. It's not the point though, so doing so while simultaneously ignoring the question as stated is disingenuous. Majority of these answers read as " people with tattoos and beards have feelings too"....no shit, I doubt he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:26 PM
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He really obviously used stereotypical descriptors of A and X. These people choose to nitpick the stereotype instead of answering the question. Which is actually clearly stated at the end in one concise sentence. Nitpicking his examples while ignoring the question is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:31 PM
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Looked to me like he was just using archetypes as a proxy for his question as many people might do when trying to compare. Although most wouldn't be so specific in order to avoid nitpicking being the focus. We'd just say... Idk "tough, burly man" or whatever, maybe we'd just say actual traits like aggressive and stoic. The root of the question is women's actions and words being inconsistent. Some people understood that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:10 PM
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Somehow when I read this post I knew the only thing most people would address was that not everyone fits the archetype they appear as , instead of addressing the root of the actual question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:09 PM
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we were all near NYC which might have contributed to it. This is the entire reason. In a city of 1M id pick up 50 likes a week. ( 200 in the first couple days) Compared to 50 a month in a 75k area.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:40 PM
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Id guess very few. I'm above average. We'll say I modeled a little at one point, had a stint as a gigolo, I get approached probably 1:5 times I go out and I don't typically use open body language. In a city of about 1M I'll get maybe 2-3 a week. Maybe 5 at startup. 75k area probably 2 a month. Maybe a week when I first get on an app. Match to like rate is probably 5-10% Response rate is probably 90% I'm guessing for avg guy 1 a month is lucky. Probably less.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:25 PM
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Guess that shows you women don't seek it out as much. Unless you're trying to claim they just don't have access. Or you're implying my mid hundreds bc sans the ones from the films I was in has me confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:48 PM
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The first bit you just kinda made up out of thin air.... something weighing on your mind? Anyway Every woman alive has more sex available to her from her man than she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:32 PM
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Nah, we just each typically seek what we don't feel we already get enough of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:23 PM
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Yeah , I mean idk how he got ordered support with 50/50 , that's the odd bit. I guess maybe private school?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:05 PM
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I almost didn't want to ask, thinking I'd be wrong. Just mainly seemed like your intelligence exceeded your eloquence. A bit of phrasing that wasn't wrong but wasn't exactly native.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:50 PM
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Basic common sense. It's more of a convenient phrase used to remind yourself than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:34 PM
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Eh, quality time vs dating are a bit different concepts. Particularly when you have kids. I guess the main difference would be the inclusion of flirting and romance. Essentially thinking of it that way is shorthand for the mindset because you also have some smaller inferences there like not assuming you know everything about them so you can have discussions with questions and be genuinely curious... basically assuming you're always still getting to know them. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:33 PM
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Just out of curiosity OP, is English not your first language? Not that it's glaring or you're doing a bad job or anything, it just seems like there's a bit of a gap between what youre saying and what you seem to be trying to articulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:13 PM
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Pretty typical. It's designed with the goal of not changing status quo for the children...and sometimes wife so essentially to make the guy contribute the same financially as he did as a member of the household. So now he's upholding that household but has to start another for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:46 PM
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It's not that difficult. Women: Buy her stuff, make her feel special. Men: sex, make him feel desired. Same basic trade since the dawn of time. Resources and attention for sex. We can dress it up and make it more complex and nuanced but all in all it's some variation of that. Woman " What's a man want for valentines" Answer " you" What's he want for Christmas: you What's he want for his birthday: you There's lingerie themed for every one of em. I exaggerate but really you can't go wrong there. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:32 PM
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We do it's just not widely received.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:26 PM
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I mean yeah it leans heavily towards the feminine but to be fair it has ever so slowly crept towards egalitarian over the years. It used to be 100% flowers, chocolates, jewelry, stuffies. Ads revolved around treating women. Now most ads revolve more around romance as a whole. There's a lot more lingerie ads etc. I mean youre not seeing tools and outdoor companies driving hard at it or anything but you do see evidence of considerations going both ways at least somewhat now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:24 PM
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Clearly showing marriage as an expense for a man and boon for a woman. Idk how you read that as divorce favoring men, unless you just mean to show he's better off financially without her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:42 PM
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I was speaking from the point of view of the applicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:06 PM
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I can vouch. I get away with murder most of the time. Multiple occasions where the first thing I said to a woman was a dressed up comment about her ass and I end up hooking up or at least getting a number. That's among more tame and common examples. Guys have hot/crazy matrix ,women have hot/creepy matrix. In both instances, you can behave as poorly as you are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:51 PM
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We know they do. We also know women just use it as a proxy for unattractive. We're well aware that acceptable behavior is moderated by level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:46 PM
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Becoming powerful among men, however, is a motivation that is quite strong And that gives you optimum choice of women. It's an all around benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:11 PM
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I think his point was that those men are also likely to have women so just reinforcing that it's not a bad strategy. I don't think it was the condemnation of the wives, as you took it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:20 PM
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Which makes it a winning life strategy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:17 PM
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No, hot/crazy matrix means you must be hot enough to make up for your crazy. We're only willing to put up with a maximum ceiling of crazy that changes in proportion to your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:44 AM
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Yeah which literally means that you must be hot enough to make up for your crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:41 AM
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No. Men love peace as much as women love drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:35 AM
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Oh they definitely are. SES is typically measured using income and education as proxies and making the considerations at a household level. Besides even if we look directly at studies that use SES gaps of one class are common. It's not uncommon until we look at wide gaps. So again, they care, but not that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:23 AM
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Yeah I suppose, but then again if you aren't the one providing those things your a dependant. Which still goes to my point. If these men are willing to either lift up or carry on someones status, then they don't really care that much about it. I mean yeah there's an argument for similar backgrounds making for more compatibility, even if she's never earned a dime but .... Then we start splitting hairs. Men just prioritize it less, even if they do care, and it's a minority that cares. I'm not sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:51 PM
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I mean I do appreciate it. Thank you. On a more rational and less anecdotal level though. We see the " boys don't cry" attitude in our language from men and women alike. Mothers do reinforce it and are far less accepting of it from boys. You see all kinds of versions of insults along these lines from women towards men. You know " crybaby" and the like. And even in the responses here many women show that they really only accept it within particular confines. Men and women alike are less accepting…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:36 PM
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The median incomes for households with a male primary provider are him at 93k and her at 30k. Those are different statuses. And while 60% being the cutoff to be considered primary doesn't seem like a big difference, the reality is that puts that person making 150%+ of what their partner makes. Not only that but peoples attitudes aren't really different and for the most part men and women actually agree. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:28 PM
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Yeah I didn't get it either. 1.It eventually came from her , my grandmother, grandfather, uncle, mother, aunt and MIL all in separate conversations that basically I was supposed to be her rock and shouldn't have let her see me losing it. She eventually said enough about it and mocked me enough for it that I figured out a big part of it was that me doing that was stealing sympathy and attention that she deserved, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:42 PM
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You kidding. Even mothers are embarrassed of their sons crying. You think your girlfriend is gonna be fine with it? My ex wife gave me shit for crying giving our sons eulogy. You're supposed to be the Superman she thought her daddy was when she was 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:18 PM
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" aww, I know what you need...a mouth hug"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:16 PM
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Red: sex work, bar tender, waitress, cop, military, yoga instructor, psychic/astrologer, MLM Green: idk if there's really green so much as just no flag but if I'm pressed .... Schoolteacher, librarian, admin, hygienist idk....I'm sure some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:32 PM
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Well, a number of studies conclude men who scored higher in dark triad traits actually have more children so idk if it's not a winning mating strategy. Here's one...there are a lot more. https://www.psypost.org/psychopathic-men-have-more-children-study-finds/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:07 AM
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It can appear that way. A lot of qualities that are attractive to women can run parallel to abusive tendencies. Sometimes the abusive traits can even masquerade as the good qualities. ( Leadership, dominance, decisiveness, even aggression/ambition, confidence) sometimes it can be hard to tell the difference between confident and cocky. Sometimes it can be hard to tell the difference between insecurity driven competitiveness and ambitious. Of course we've all seen the ones that keep going back. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:56 AM
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You don't have conversations and ask questions and filter by certain standards or try to get a feel for personality in OLD before you agree to a date? I mean that's preliminary vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:48 PM
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I love hearing bad first date stories. That aside, most of the frustration comes from the fact that guys can see what women can't. Most of the time it would have been obvious to a man. Same as women can see it easier with other women. I think it's probably less frustrating though for women seeing guys making poor decisions because well, we aren't the picky ones. I don't think women experience the same frustration unless it's involving a guy they themselves are crushing on. Watch him choose a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:44 PM
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Probably. As well as some other adjacent things along those lines. Most people seem to value these differences. It's almost surprising this is ever really a debate here to me. I think it's more of a split between people who think more one way vs another. The majority of men and women actually seem to agree on this subject. Both for themselves and when viewing others. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:45 PM
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I'll throw in a couple on peoples general attitudes about it as well. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/12/05/americans-see-different-expectations-for-men-and-women/ And surprisingly enough, men and women tend to agree for the most part, both when self-assessing and assessing potential partners....or just others in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:57 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:37 PM
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Doubtful Median income for households with a sole provider is 75k Median income for each person in egalitarian marriages is 60k Median income for a man as primary provider in dual income households was 96k, with their wives earning about 30k So maybe we see a lean towards the high end of blue collar with sole providers but otherwise no, the lowest median individual incomes are in egalitarian marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:25 PM
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Well. First let's clear some things up about people pairing up evenly; 31.xx percent of marriages have a man as primary provider 23% have a man as sole provider 29% are roughly equal 10% have a woman as primary 6% have a woman as sole So we have the largest chunk as men who are primary providers. Followed closely by roughly equal. Of course this is a result of both mens and women's preferences. This is not just old couples skewing the results either. Women over 50 are twice as likely to be major…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:04 PM
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Yes but thinking like this; " I need to make X so I can have blank,I just want a partner that isn't a negative towards that" Is independent thinking " My partner needs to make X so I can have blank" is dependant thinking or cooperative thinking at best. The goal is not to be drug down and to lift ourselves and possibly others. The goal is not to find someone to lift us. In other words, not someone to make more or add to our income, just someone who doesn't take away from it is fine. That person …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:14 PM
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I'm not really seeing the contradiction here, most men don't have masters or higher, but I'll expand. Basically men are attracted to anything from somewhat dependant to non-burden with non burden being typically the high end of the scale, anything beyond that we don't really care. We're not looking to be lifted up by someone else, we're looking to lift ourselves and possibly others. At this point we're forced to care at all by economy. There's an overarching sentiment at work here. For women bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:05 PM
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The difference is usually in dependant vs independent thinking. The tendency is for men to to think " awesome, she can take care of herself!" Net neutral. ( Which is all you really need when combining households will naturally benefit both). A non burden is attractive. They're mostly just hoping for someone who doesn't drag them down. That's all that's needed when we're looking to build something. Where a lot of women think of how it benefits them, they're looking for a net positive, someone to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:14 PM
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The criticism shallow comes into play when anyone places too much importance on a particular quality to the point of virtually ignoring other qualities. Basically if the importance is out of proportion. The criticism ridiculous comes into play when a person wants something well beyond their level or is incapable of reciprocating. It's just more common and easiest to see shallowness or ridiculousness in women when it comes to money because it tends to be a focus of theirs and because men generall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:49 AM
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Of course it is, for men and women alike. There's entire sets of types of intimacy that are generally reserved for sexual relationships ie pair bonding. One tends to approach from the angle of sex and outwards the other from the angle of surrounding intimacy then inwards more but they both revolve ultimately around sex....it kind of defines pair bonded relationships in humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:05 AM
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No kidding. If it weren't the case we wouldn't as humans partner up and pair bond en masse, across cultures and time. Oh and of course, there wouldn't be family if not for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:55 PM
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Naah. All it does is give people warm and cozy feelings. Allows them to remain plausibly virtuous whilst acting upon the same amoral drivers as everyone else. . Mostly it disadvantages men by making them play a game they are ignorant to the rules of, which makes them more easily manipulated. There are also parts that disadvantage women by essentially encouraging inaction and wishful thinking. Overall it deconstructs strategy and leaves things to chance but in the end it doesn't keep people apart…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:43 PM
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Id have been thrilled if my ex wife would have worked that much. So probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:01 PM
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Hell no. No amount of charm is making up for those. I wouldn't even be all that short, but ugly too....nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:31 PM
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Does it matter? First wave was late 19th-early 20th. The main goal was universal suffrage and most western countries got it guess when?....late 19th early 20th. With minor exceptions here and there they didn't vote prior to first wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:14 PM
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Unfortunately the instruments used were self assessment inventories. Which aren't going to account for actual behavior. As far as the disorder goes obviously like many others, things are taken into account in a relative to peers fashion. What is excessive is in comparison to others. Many indicators given in DSM specifically account for sex differences. Ie. " Excessive preening" is adjusted for what is normal depending on sex. With women obviously being given extensive amounts of mirror time. Ess…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:43 PM
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Studies show that female preferences for potential partners are "relative to the pool," meaning a woman's ideal partner characteristics will shift depending on the quality of individuals available in her dating pool; essentially, she will value traits more highly if they are relatively rare or desirable within her accessible options, rather than having a fixed set of preferences regardless of the dating landscape. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://news.ute…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:22 PM
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So your saying women could vote, before they could vote? No , clearly women did not have the right to vote prior to first wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:34 PM
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And women's suffrage? Which was what I addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:11 PM
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It's not entirely off base. People with more options are less likely to place as high a value on a singular person. People with less options will tend to use what they can to attract options. I mean its not a rule by any means but certainly the odds favor better looking people not having to be as nice, nor as monogamous to attract partners. I say this as an attractive man who had a glow up. Id also say the correlation has less to do with how directly attractive someone is and more to do with how…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:10 PM
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Women could own property, vote and work prior to the first wave of feminism. Huh? I mean maybe some exceptions but suffrage was the major theme of first wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:00 PM
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I mean technically he's correct if we limit it to war, but id say organized conflict is highly related precursor. It's really just a distinction of scale that means chimps don't actually wage "war" per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:28 PM
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the majority of the caloric intake came from what was gathered than hunted. This was climate dependent. More temperate , more gathering....less temperate more hunting. Kind of logical if you consider the extremes. Not much to gather in Inuit country. Gathering only exceeding hunting in limited areas and in limited seasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:17 PM
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It's actually always been a bit of a thing. We sort of created this false common knowledge that it wasn't a thing in the past by focusing on the odd occurrences of age gap relationships of the past but while legally always having been allowed they were somewhat taboo throughout most of history. Just check out average age gaps for each century and you'll find it's 4-6 years all the way back to the Roman empire. While it was more common in higher classes ( as it still is) you'll find instances fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:53 PM
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Unmarried fathers start with exactly zero legal rights to their children. They must legally seek rights. Which is an uphill battle as courts seek to maintain status quo. Obviously status quo for young breastfeeding children is going to have the mother as majority caregiver. Then as long as that's maintained in practice, when it's already been legally sanctioned , it becomes extremely difficult to change. So most end up with a pittance for parenting time. Here's the average results of parenting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:05 PM
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I would advocate this more for men honestly. As an unmarried man you are only automatically bestowed with one thing when it comes to children, child support. Zero rights. As a married man you at least technically start off on equal legal terms which typically leads to better outcomes in the case of a split.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:47 PM
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I wouldn't even call it work. " Night to shine", Tim Tebow foundation , it's like a prom/red carpet event for mentally challenged folks. Volunteered as a " buddy" ( fake date). I was asked because I guess often times there aren't enough guys and the ladies will get paired with ladies and they aren't happy about it. They had to put it on the news that they were short just to try and get enough guys. Still 3x as many women as men. 1000 people, several cheer teams, couple of pro ball players, pagea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:13 AM
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I did some volunteer thing yesterday that if I werent taken would have been a goldmine for meeting women of every age and every background but probably decent character...and it was fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:54 AM
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Something that I've noticed when browsing the TwoXChromosomes subreddit is that there is a pattern of posts made by women lamenting men's preferences for rough and degrading sex acts. Maybe a lot just like to hatefuck the type of women who hang out on twox.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:54 AM
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I think a bit of it is feeling a lack of power but I'm not sure the desire is there I think most of it is a byproduct of indecisiveness with a sprinkle of avoiding accountability for any decision. Less binary and seemingly more meaningful than coinflips and still not subject to self blame if the outcome isn't rosy. This Tomlinson clip kind of illustrates it a little. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2FTVXqn/ In any case it ties into a passive life experience which is somewhat common in women. For many…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 02:03 AM
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Well ..or Social Security. For us car car guys, possibly super sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:31 AM
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Men have never taken a stand and fought against the draft, Obviously false. Draft evasion and protest has been a thing as long as there's been a draft. Peaking during the Viet Nam era. That's what men voted for Reagan promised to get rid of selective service entirely. LBJ said he'd avoid sending troops to Vietnam. (Both reversed their stance after election with LBJ dramatically increasing the draft) Carter promised to blanket pardon all draft evaders during his campaign. Which he did. He then re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:27 AM
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Without getting too specific, yes; Examples of professions often associated with higher marriage rates: Healthcare: Doctors, surgeons, nurses, dentists Law: Lawyers, legal professionals Academia: College professors, researchers Business Leadership: CEOs, executives Religious professions: Clergy, ministers Men with higher incomes are more likely to get married. Men who experience adverse economic changes are more likely to experience a decline in marriage. Men in the highest income category are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:08 PM
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Just Google partner count and religion. Then try infidelity and religion. Your answer is yes there's truth to it. Caveat, it mostly has to do with religion, which in turn correlates with conservatives.religious people basically sway the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:03 PM
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I really couldn't care less if people like or dislike porn or whatever personally. Im just saying I agree you can't expect to change someone, at the same time you can have your opinion on what behaviors are acceptable single vs partnered. Everyone has some differences in their single vs partnered behavior. Although since you touched on it ( no pun intended) IME even if someone is totally available to you every time you get the itch , sometimes you still want to just masterbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:30 PM
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I agree with the concept of not expecting to change someone here but I doubt im the only man who really only watches porn at times when that's what's available. A lot of guys watch it when single and not really when partnered. So it can be a bit more complex than that. Id say it's more a matter of addressing your expectations early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:16 PM
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Why would we presume it goes to the mother? Should be50/50 custody default.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:08 PM
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What in the world gave you the idea that a response so clearly framed in a general sense is directed at exactly and specifically one of your anecdotal situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:44 AM
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Most likely. In any given pairing whoever is most vulnerable is most likely to be the target of aggression. Just like old memes.... Man>woman>child>pet. Even at most basic, women definitely scream at children a whole more than they do other women or men etc. I'm pretty certain women see more of it, even if it's just to intimidate or maybe isn't even directed at them. Just witnessing some delayed cathartic display triggered by another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:21 AM
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I was turned down 4 times because I was a virgin. Not because of some ick but simply bc of the pressure they felt around the big step of being someone's first. Ended up with another virgin and it was off to the races after that. Mind you, this was all among fellow teens at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:07 PM
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Idk about plenty. I do tend to get approached but it's still not a lot, unless you ask the men around me. They'll tell you it's a crazy amount. Point is, it's enough to know it's fairly rare. Even for me my reaction is skeptical at first. From my POV, it's a lot more common than it used to be but still on the low end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:20 PM
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That really just depends on what for. That's kind of the whole point of dual mating strategy. It's been said plenty of times that women tend to lust after alphas and commit with betas. Idk if it's always their choice or if it's a compromise. Female oriented fantasy would have you believe the ultimate desire is an alpha who can be tamed only for her. I would say maybe I could agree if it was phrased most women for a bigger amount of time although with less enthusiastic lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:08 PM
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Hits dead on with what little I found in qualitative research. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ro.ecu.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1126%26context%3Dtheses_hons&ved=2ahUKEwiz9_6o6taJAxU448kDHUbNAKAQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0uaetW2xXQ5EuDvK64IHET You'll see that there is one quality that clusters on female apologies, self initiation. Two qualities cluster around male apologies. Sustained and high level of effort ( apology as a process) Adoption of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:18 AM
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Seems to be realistically down to a difference in perception. Linguistically, women apologize more. A Google search is quick to show this. ( Bear in mind that they talk a lot more as well) An additional reason for this seems to coalesce around men having a higher threshold for what's offensive. So why the common perception that women never apologize ( in particular within their relationships) ? My theory; Women apologize a lot for self perceived minor offenses, that may not even bother the " off…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:06 PM
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Meh, my ex wife made all kinds of accusations. To CPS and to a judge. CPS did their investigation quickly, closed the case on me and opened one on her that lasted a long time. There's more to it but each one was very quickly identified as false and did little more than raise suspicion towards herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:05 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%2016%25%20of%20opposite,3%25%20of%20marriages%20in%201972. There are also differences by age, with younger wives less likely than older wives to be the breadwinner, a pattern found in previous research. Among wives ages 25 to 34, 11% are the breadwinner in their marriage, whereas 22% of wives ages 55 to 64 out-earn their husbands. Has always trende…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:41 PM
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Probably not the best example because yes, in fact the younger the couple the more likely there is to be a male breadwinner. For 2023 half as many wives aged 25-34 were breadwinners as the number of wives aged 55-64 were. Egalitarian marriages have grown 7% in the past 30 years and they've wavered before. Female breadwinner has barely changed at all. It's not something that's changed fast nor very much and the dynamic has always leaned towards male breadwinner at younger ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:16 PM
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Oh no. Plenty definitely do. The vast majority even....at least to some degree. It just doesn't constitute ....."she just wants to be promiscuous". If it weren't the case, clubs might be more popular with couples than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:16 PM
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Which is why on the whole, it's not really separable. You have couples wanting to go together. You have people who are part of a couple that would have fun without their partner but really have no interest in someone else. You have those same people who have no intention and may not even be temptable but still enjoy the attention. Then you have actual singles who by and large are at least open to meeting someone. Every group usually has a mix. In any case, no one really enjoys segregating like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:11 PM
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Exactly. Several have been tried, all have failed. For some strange reason women won't go to them. I mean, guys aren't gonna go to an all guy club either. Everyone enjoys looking and being looked at, even the most innocent people. We just don't buy. " It's just to dance" because it isn't true. If it were there would be a demand for such places and they'd be everywhere. Some people just treat it as more nefarious than the reality of it and others try to deny the attention and interaction as being…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:25 PM
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Usual reaction to being shown to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:21 PM
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That's a stretch. Even according to Blackfoot scholars. Influenced a change to the model ( which the Blackfoot didn't even have a concept of) via their culture yes, that's about as far as one can take that. https://www.resilience.org/stories/2021-06-18/the-blackfoot-wisdom-that-inspired-maslows-hierarchy/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:21 PM
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You'd have to make the assumption that couples who have sex once a week don't show regular affection but couples that have it twice do for that to be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:02 PM
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The major hole in that argument is that the benefits hold true among couples. We can at least imply those other items are being met even in couples who have less sex so it strongly suggests it is the sex. Not to mention the physiological effects which are uniquely stunning and very interesting. It's actually quite unlike exercise in a lot of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:51 AM
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Numerous studies have shown that an active sex life is closely correlated with a longer life. Specifically, it seems like sex may lower the risk for heart attacks, strokes, and other heart diseases. In 2010, the New England Research Institute conducted a massive study. https://www.healthline.com/health/ways-sex-helps-you-live-longer#:~:text=Numerous%20studies%20have%20shown%20that,Institute%20conducted%20a%20massive%20study.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:26 AM
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Doubtful that will change at least until a trans woman could birth children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:23 PM
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Then you're an expendable man, according to the judgement of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:17 PM
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Works fine. In fact much better than believing I'm just entitled to be valued. I'm good with being valued for my accomplishments over just trying to convince myself " I'm worth it" just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:13 PM
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If that were the only reason it would be no less true but in the biological sense cheap sperm, expensive egg is pretty well accepted, especially in the case of animals such as ourselves with long gestational periods and mostly singular birth events.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:47 PM
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True though. We demonstrate it on a societal level Eg. Draft. How do I show I'm not expendable and therefore be exempt? Be a woman...any woman. Tie myself to someone not expendable. ( Be married with children. IOW I'm part of a viable breeding pair.) Have big earning potential. Plenty of money, full time student etc. One of the points that’s very clear is that men with means—whether that's actually money, cultural or political capital, or a better education—absolutely could get out of service a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:25 PM
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It's hyperbole but true to the extent that men aren't lusting after women's careers or resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:42 AM
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Similar for me. I can look and notice. All I get out of it is" ooh she's _______." I'm not going to make a crude comment. Might say cute, pretty, hot...... something like that. In any case it's similar to why I never really enjoyed a strip club or got aroused at anything there. It's not going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:34 AM
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Sure but validation through attracting others is still an active attempt to attract others. The intent may not be to cheat or monkey branch but it doesn't change the act. Not to mention it's just adding temptation. A lot of it is the equivalent of me staying on dating apps just to feel good about getting likes. If we look at women's attitudes through the lense of false consensus effect it tells us exactly what their motivation really is. Eg. What do they act like when other women like our pics? …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:49 PM
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Probably because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:08 PM
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This goes both ways. It comes from the general and actually very reasonable assumption that people have some behavioral changes when they're single vs partnered. Most people do. The problem is whether those changes actually line up to expectations or not. Im on dating apps when single, should she not expect I leave them? I spend a lot of my free time hanging with the guys when I'm single, should she not expect I allot more of that time to her? Hell Ill probably shy away from the tri annual gym p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:08 PM
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You need to date unemployed, drug addict , transportation less, or parents basement dwellers to know whether they're a fit for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:32 AM
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Oh its low. Realistically 5% and less, but bear in mind that's about 30x times better than app rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:55 PM
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On the contrary. Lots of people choose to be single mothers. Lots of women dump their children's father for frivolous reasons, choose to have children out of wedlock, or choose to have kids with men they really don't expect to stay with. Id say that single motherhood as a result of some man leaving them against their wishes or expectations is likely the rarest case these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:41 PM
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Just think about the usual progression of a relationship from a man's POV. Starts off hot and heavy without much more requirement than just showing up and being interested. Slowly transforms into more demands and requirements and less sex and desire. If you want the good parts you just keep it all short term. Women are wired to do this to tempt and lock a man in. The more commitment she gets the less she has desire for him and it goes from show up and get sucked and fucked all night with enthusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:59 PM
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Oh but remember, makeup is for yourself. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:21 PM
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Pragmatism. It's rare enough to be struck by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:41 PM
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Actually kind people and assholes attract rather easily. Often kind people are driven by a desire to please and pleasing an asshole comes with a sense of accomplishment. Even at work. Who is everyone trying hardest to please? The asshole. Occasionally you'll find someone who is kind but not easy to, nor eager to please. Most often kindness and eagerness to please run together in a person. As does being an asshole and difficult to please. The two types often pair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:06 PM
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We know we shouldn't like them. We talk shit about not wanting them. We talk a lot of shit about avoiding them and a lot of us still end up mixed up with one. Some learn a lesson, some dont. The more self aware among us would never enter a serious relationship with one. At the end of the day compare to women with bad boys, or just emotionally unavailable men or fuckboys. You know they aren't good for you so you talk shit and confer with one another as a means of bolstering your walls against the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:15 PM
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It's not as crazy as it seems. I mean if you just limit to age range and normal BMI you're typically already down to 10% or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:05 PM
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That doesn't solve the feeling of being unwanted, undesirable, not seen as a sexual being. Getting sex isn't just getting a nut, it's being validated as desirable. It's all over men's language when it comes to sex. Huge concern is always "she wants me" " she wants me enough to do x" ( drive to me, cheat on her boyfriend, do some sexual act, not expect me to buy her things, jump on me as soon as I walk in the door, dress up for me, put in some random effort etc etc etc.) The minimum is just havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:39 PM
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Clearly a big part of getting sex is the validation that someone wants it with you. Is this really any mystery? But, there again, as a woman you will never ever have to feel like you are not sexually desirable to anybody it's just a given that you are. You'll never be able to say "you know there's not a man out there that would want to fuck me" , not even in hyperbole. So maybe it is a mystery to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:46 AM
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Im depressed. Why? No matter what I do I can't get laid. Seems pretty damned concise. Not empathizing with the importance of that is just solipsism. It's really not the communicators fault. He could layer it with connection, but if it's really the majority of his problem then you're just asking him to bullshit you in order to put it in terms you'll understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:20 PM
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If one leads to the other, then it's still accurate to say "lack of sex led to me losing my will to live" Ok. So there's one step between two. Doesn't change the root problem. It's like " my kid dying led to me losing my will to live". Would you say "no the depression did that" ? Accurate, but who cares? What difference does it make? Is my statement not accurate too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:05 PM
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What's yours then? Not achieving a goal despite trying can lead to depression. So if a person actively tries to get sex and can't....can lead to depression. So why bother trying to separate it all into sexual frustration when clearly that's not the case. All you're really telling us is that its not a goal of yours ( we knew that, you're a woman) so you don't understand how it could lead to depression. Then try to act like the two are distinct for everyone because for you they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:53 PM
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In reality you simply can't understand because you don't have a man's drive and lack the ability to empathize to that degree. One of the big causes of depression; Loss of purpose. A lack of progress in various aspects of your life (career, personal goals, relationships, etc.) can lead to a sense of purposelessness. If you're feeling stuck, or unable to make advancements, it can trigger feelings of hopelessness and despair– common feelings associated with depression. Since you'll never struggle t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:43 PM
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Nobody ever goes into any detail because it gets complicated to explain. It's just. " Get out there and broaden your social circle" with the context being to get dates. Many won't realize that if someone needs that advice there is a good chance they also need to be told " this doesn't mean try and date all the women you meet" or " in fact it's better if you don't, you want 2 degrees of separation for the most part" You want to meet people, especially women. Then you want to be invited to events …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:20 PM
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No kidding. That's why you limit that shit to one in the immediate circle if at all. You only go for extended circle. Then you get the dish on the person. They aren't always around the group, you can put out feelers without actually ever going for it etc. Leave the social tree alive, don't take too many branches, plant the fruit, and then harvest those other trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah basically. I think we have to presume that all categories are within the wider acceptable range and also not over the top compared to the observers normal range. Then Id guess these priority percentages are fairly accurate. Basically just disregard outliers and yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:24 AM
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When you're talking about 6% hell that could mean you have a car and can afford gas and clean clothes to come over that night. Maybe buy pizza. Musician, often hey you've also got some weed to share. I mean it's pretty small bit to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:02 AM
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Probably about right if we assume none of those things are exceptional relative to the others. For instance I think for most people smoking hot or tons of money or crazy status ( like minor or major celeb), super funny etc. can make those percentages shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:00 AM
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Single women are the most self actualised demographic Looks at your whole post. Looks at self-actualization. Researchers have found that self-actualized people often feel that they have a specific mission, duty, or responsibility in life. This purpose is often humanitarian in nature. They feel deeply connected to other people and experience tremendous empathy for the plight of others. Seems youve proven yourself wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:17 AM
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CDC has the US current average at 17.1 Id have guessed about 16 but of course the way the survey goes its counting if you already have so there's some latency built in. It's basically saying 50% have had sex by 17. About half of those surveyed would have lost their virginity while 16. Yeah it's pretty close. I was shy of 16 by a day. Friends were mostly getting at it within that year. So by 17 yeah, makes sense. Biggest jump in numbers is at 19 though. So you have a big chunk hitting it at 16ish…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:41 PM
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The universal answer to "how many....?" anything. All of them. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:07 PM
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Some men will also will judge women who are too forward, assuming they aren’t relationship material Catch 22. This is directly due to the fact that it's unusual behavior. It's not just " maybe she's a slut" it's " something is probably wrong here" ulterior motive? Desperate for some reason? Slutty? We don't know but there's often a degree of doubt you then have to disprove. All because it just isn't normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:01 PM
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Which highlights a bit of a cultural problem. A lot of that is posturing. Why posture about shitty behavior? Two reasons. Guarding. We know not only how fickle women can be but also how hypergamous. Young men don't want to let on they are into a lady because when she changes her mind or doesn't seem to outwardly express the same, its embarrassing. (She's seen flirting and grinding other dudes etc) Worst case she jumps ship to some asshole and then You're taunted about how he "fucked your girl" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:44 AM
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Doesn't make economic sense. It's the primary reason median new home size has doubled every 40 years. Economy of scale. There are base prices that are amortized over the sqft of the house and the end result is it's cheaper per sqft to buy and results in a larger profit margin for builders. And that's ignoring that they appreciate better which makes them more attractive to buyers. At 1100 sqft or so many builders don't consider the minimal profit margin to be worth their time. They can build a ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:39 AM
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her running mate was picked in large part because he was a white man Hmm, weird. I don't remember saying that. But I did say this Obama wanted an old white guy to " make the ticket more palatable" So it's allowed to be identity politics if a white guy is picked but we have to ignore the other selection and how the two are related? Idk about you but if I know I can pick up a solid 10% of the voting population through identity and that's more than enough to make the difference im going to do it. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:18 PM
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Clearly we just both brought up examples of identity politics where white men were picked , due to identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:36 PM
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How Harris is a "DEI hire" while ignoring that her running mate was picked in large part because he was a white man (to say nothing if a woman ever dared to talk like Trump does)? Is it just a staggering coincidence that the claws really come out whenever the candidate is a woman? I mean you're basically admitting to where they get that from. It's calculated identity politics. Obama wanted an old white guy to " make the ticket more palatable" while the party knew very well he'd grab a huge chunk…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:47 PM
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I would have to bet on the latter. Throughout history and a wide variety of cultures women in the highest positions are more the exception than the rule. The degree to which it's socially supported may vary but overall it seems to be normative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:35 PM
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As with many other things , part of the problem is that people don't actually want advice or they take advice as criticism they consider useless to some degree or another. Many give up or see things as immutable and really just want to bitch. Then there's a spectrum running from general to personalized. I would say most qualified would be the person most similar , who has both struggled and succeeded at the thing you want to do. Then of course sometimes perspective is better than advice. Talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:08 PM
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It's usually terrible because it's usually irrelevant due to the disparity of experience. Some women can reverse the scenarios in their head fairly well and do a decent job though I've yet to see a woman who fully understands the way other men do. Most men, outside of the very tip top of successful men have had similar experiences to others at some point. I'm very successful. It doesnt mean I have 100% or even close rate. I've also shifted from unsuccessful to successful. Regardless, most men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:37 PM
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Study Yeah, if we're using data from the 882 people included in the Scottish mental survey of 1932. It's heavily outdated and basically irrelevant unless we're using it to make cultural distinctions to more recent data. If we look at 1994, then for people in general higher iq correlates to higher likelihood of being married within the decade for adolescents. Though a lot of the correlation is multilayered. Height correlates with iq. Education correlates with iq. Socioeconomic status correlates w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:27 PM
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That's just a point of view factor. When I did it , if you asked if I was happy in my relationship I would have said yes despite having spent months feeling like I was no longer attractive to her, having tons of discussion about it etc. It was a major issue, but I was still overall happy with my relationship. Women will color their entire relationship based on an issue and most would have said they weren't happy. Hell they would have told me I wasn't happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:29 PM
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Uh...the predicate of the entire post is who's worse off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:13 PM
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Like I said, mixed bag. I wouldn't put full stock in just one woman's opinion. ( Also in some of those instances they knew full well I was in player mode, would you want me successful at being a player? Some certainly wouldn't) Some had secret or not so secret attractions to me also. There are variable reasons beyond always " she's out of your league"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:07 PM
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Well, probably not good advice but it worked for me. 6 months on a bender with a mostly resigned attitude. By the end of it I gave zero fucks anymore. That and acting in a play at a community theater. ( Just anything silly in front of people, improv, character reading to kids, dance class if you suck... anything) You get used to putting yourself out there and lose the embarrassment. You don't put so much stock in individual interactions either. decided to message someone I had a fun time with at…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:04 PM
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Same reason your dudes drop energy and call you a pussy after they spend 10 minutes trying to goad you into talking to her and you're too afraid to try. Just worse bc women are into human drama as entertainment more. They're even more interested to see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:42 PM
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Doesn't even matter the gender man. If the bros and you are out and they try to goad you into talking to the girl you thought was cute, don't they get disappointed when puss out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:37 PM
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Or they're jealous or just annoyed you're successful or just don't like the idea. I've had plenty of " No don't , she looks all cute and innocent" " She'll never go for you" " Yeah right" " Don't be one of those guys" Etc. right before getting a number or more. It's a mixed bag with female friends. Some are giddily fascinated to watch the action, some are a little jealous,, some have some sort of aversion to other women getting laid and seen to just see men as predatory. Anyway I wouldn't go off…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:33 PM
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Self esteem takes a real hit when the quality of men doesn't increase proportionately with the exerted effort. I think men can say similar. I think it's kind of the nature of it. 80 percent of the returns are from 20 percent of the efforts, the rest takes a lot of polishing to move the needle a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:52 PM
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Many bring ass and stress. It's a result of taking the point of view that men must please them in exchange for some ass. To be fair that is a result of abundance mentality which is facilitated by desperate men. You won't find many women here of that archetype, they'd be slaughtered in the comments. Even the more unhinged women here are somewhat intelligent. I wouldn't expect " my presence" answers and certainly not to the degree you'd get from the general population. My point? I guess that you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:47 PM
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Would you bet $200k that your SO has never cheated? Here's the catch , if you're right, you gain nothing. If you're wrong and he has, you pay him $200k
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:16 PM
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Here's the problems with getting it in secret. It seems odd so many women are like "well ok, doubt me, but have the decency to lie to me about it" The big one. These tests are post natal but the decision to sign birth certificate and or affidavit of paternity is immediate, these are things that happen right away. Depending on the state and whether they're married etc. some places the AOP can't even be overturned with DNA tests. For instance, in my current state you have 60 days to rescind it on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:01 PM
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Hell my ex wife gave me no end of shit, was offended, and definitely had the same reaction to me crying giving our son's eulogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 02:24 PM
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So they struggle where everyone struggles... Oh no that's terrible 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:28 PM
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Lol. Shit. There's everything from disappointing ( think squirting while nothing is touching you or the distracting continuous normal stroke during) to good to holy fuck my whole body feels like an orgasm for several minutes after. Everytime I hear a man say something similar to this I suspect he's not good in bed. He's not mindful of his own experience, let alone hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:40 PM
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As long as you let your potential partners know up front that you're asexual I'm not judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:20 PM
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I had this conversation with a few close friends (of different sexuality and genders), specifically about what makes a partner a partner versus just a best friend? You can have sex with a best friend or feel attracted to them overall, doesn't make them a partner. At least not to us. You can have everything else and not sex and also not have a partner. You can build a life with a friend, be vulnerable, share powerful feelings and they're still a friend. It's the whole package that makes it what i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:55 PM
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It's both. I'm going to skip elaboration on that though because I just want to say this; You have brought up a bit of a catch 22. While the majority of people aren't looking for a sexless relationship and indeed most forms of partner are inherently sexual relationships which means it's for the most part required. Humans don't generally pair bond without it. The problem, knowing it's essentially required frames it as an obligation. Obligations are joy sucking. In the same way that getting a job d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:36 PM
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I'm gonna agree, sort of. When I saw that statement I knew it would be jumped on because it's so close to the other bullshit claims that they and make it seem like women have some 6th sense. Most people can pick up an actual insecurity being covered most people can pick up fake cockiness. Fake confidence....ehh not so much. Whatever words you use, I'm just saying there's a sweet spot that people won't pick up and practice does make perfect so " fake it til you make it" has some merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:37 PM
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Or carries himself in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:01 PM
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whether they are inviting him out outside of the clubs — this is a good indicator for whether he’s making a good impression there and is a major method used to find a partner (not always directly AT the event but by expanding social networks.) I second this enthusiastically! In fact I can agree or tentatively agree with most of this comment and going strictly on this id guess you're not a bad wing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:59 PM
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What you don't understand is that this is already just a given for men. It's already what we do. We have fun and do things we like for ourselves all the time. We're already regulars in something. It will never make women just appear for us. Stop giving guys advice for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:52 PM
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So go king, tell me all about how I wrong I am while continuing to not have any success. You're wrong. From a man with lots of success, you're wrong. There's some truth to the core premise, but the way you've framed it would never work for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:39 PM
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Try it for 1 year. And tell me your dating life hasn't improved. Hell, you might even be in a relationship in 6 months (if that's something you desire). "It'll just come to you if you don't try" This will never,ever, in a million years be valid advice for men. Women can sit back and make themselves happy and bask in their passive role and probably become more attractive for it. Not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:15 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking. Sometimes you could describe someone in text all day long and just not convey what's up. Especially if one is describing ones self. In 3 minutes in person you see it. Though even guys that struggle hard will get the " I can do it myself!" Resentful attitude towards successful men who try and help even when they asked. Then for some unknown reason assume they know better than you within 2 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:10 AM
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Yes it is. If I had a penny for every time I heard a man complain irl about women only wanting money id have like 8 cents. If I had one for every woman I've met who never made a snide remark about men only wanting sex id have zero. He hates paying only for woman who isn't matching the value. If she's some hottie going " he needs to make 200k, let me stay home and take care of my family and keep his stomach full and balls empty" guys are shopping for rings. If she's normal and just going " were a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:32 PM
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1 it's actually a small subset of men making the complaints. While you'd be extremely hard pressed to find just one woman who hasn't complained of being wanted for her body. 2 still depends on her level of entitlement and willingness to accept the reverse cognate or how skewed her perception of her own value is perceived to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:02 PM
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Acceptance is far from what I'd call the general attitude towards this. Far more complaints about sex focus from women than money focus from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:51 PM
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This paper does not support your claim. In fact it simply breaks down why men dominate in actions considered heroic. The more immediate and higher the level of danger to the rescuer the more it is considered to be heroic. Carnegie medalists...immediate danger requiring immediate action...male dominated. Righteous.... Non immediate danger, still life threatening, requiring largely consistent planned action. Basically even if not female leaning. ( Also derived from a dataset which has the explicit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:35 AM
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Average height/weight? So about 5'3" 170 lbs...in other words, obese. I wouldn't even be remotely tempted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:20 AM
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Nervous system interfaces or even just linkkng could start to blend bio and mechanical to a point that artificial isn't the most practical route.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:37 PM
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I'm down for some suggestions. Hell I've used Fonzie to give me some prompts for txt conversations, with some success. Quickly moving from the prompt to my own input. I think for most people this would be used for a while and quickly abandoned once they outpaced it. I don't see anything wrong with the confidence boost or training one would likely get from it. Personally though I wouldn't want to become a puppet someone goes for. Shed be dating the AI but my body at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:21 PM
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Don't really care. Random thoughts . Makes for an easy gift. Makes it really difficult to see if she's taken. With other factors it may signal attention seeking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:03 PM
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I think this line of thought mostly comes from the fact that most guys can spot a not so good guy from 100 miles away. So when we see you picking men like me while spouting all this good wholesome shit you supposedly want we conclude that you're either stupid or full of shit. Reality is it's just attraction blinders and the fact that you aren't men, don't think like men and so there's a lot you don't see that other men do. Exacerbated by the way people ( but particularly women from my POV) are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 09:26 PM
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No. Doesn't matter 2:100 chance on the 100 tickets you hold is better than 2:100 chance of the 0 or 1 ticket you hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:10 PM
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I’m pretty sure their attractiveness doesn’t factor in to your friendship with them It does in the sense of who I pull into the party circle, so to speak. Helps keep more attractive women coming around if the guys are all on par. There's strictly platonic and mostly platonic. Very few intersex friendships fall into the category of absolutely strictly platonic ( even in the mind). But I agree you shouldn't be friends with someone you heavily desire. Either try for it or go away when that's how yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:39 PM
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Nah. Then he wouldn't have them hanging out. Every time he tries to hook up with one he's taking a branch from his social tree and risks killing the tree. Try to take every branch, it's dead. He should however try to get one or two and do his best to make it memorable. Then he'd be likely swatting them away. But I get your main point. Just not doing anything has made him unatractive or at least added to that in the groupthink.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:31 PM
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Ill put it this way. Under certain circumstances some of my friends would fuck me and I would fuck some of them. Which is fine. Hell it adds to the friendship. People like to be friends with attractive people. But actually no. I have the opportunity but instead of chopping down the few trees to burn for warmth I plant all the seeds for more trees. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:09 PM
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I mean yes, if you're too close you can fall into being socially castrated. Nobody said become their gay bestie. Hell I'll add to it, if they're too close they're also a little intimidating and quite possibly an interference to potential partners. However it doesn't mean having female friends is a bad idea. It does work out quite well. This is where you need to be selective. The big mistake is either becoming the gay bestie or trying to fuck every one you think is attractive. In terms of potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:03 PM
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I think you're being a little too polar. I have female friends that are attractive. They also think Im attractive. Thing is they aren't my best buddies. Also we have to distinguish between attraction and interest. There's plenty of fuckable women im not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:46 PM
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Literally no longer platonic. Even making out is...well; "Making out is a colloquial American term for a sexual activity involving two (or more) people engaging in deep kissing and non-penetrative sexual touching (heavy petting)"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:37 PM
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Comes down to caring what people think and standing to lose. Elites get eccentric because they don't have to care, lower rungs have nothing to lose. This follows for pretty much all the unusual behaviors. From goinh out in PJs to stealing and doing drugs to licking items in the store. But it's rooted in everyone else's opinions. Women or not. Men in the lower rungs don't have any stronger influence than men in the middle. In fact I'd say maybe less due to housing in lower rungs often being under…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:22 PM
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Some. Historically we can look at legal age dropping to 14 100 years ago and twelve by going back 200 years and having been around there for a couple thousand. Even then, while some older men would marry young girls, average was something like 20 for women 26 for men. What would be a bit more common that we'd scoff at today would be couples that were 14 and 20. But it was just a matter of everyone starting life earlier ( usually ending too) Basically higher than a ten year age gap has always bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:49 AM
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Quid pro quo is how the world essentially works. With everything from employment to buying goods to sex...it's always an exchange. We can generally break down how moral the exchange is based on how much free will each party is able to exercise. Barring just being physically forced where there is no exchange choice involved, for sex the exchange spectrum breaks down to something like this; From most moral to least. Sex for sex Sex for other companionship Sex because you want to make someone happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:37 PM
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It's not even libertarian, he just thinks it is. It's fucking with someone elses personal freedom directly which is decidedly anti-libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:02 PM
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Tbf it kind of is, legally speaking. Coercion in terms of SA for the most part has to be physical threat. If someone says blow me or you're fired they've committed quid pro quo harassment. If they say blow me or I'll tell your secret they've committed blackmail. However if the other person agrees, they have consented to the physical aspect so not SA but still extortion or qpq harassment. Basically because there wasn't a physical threat it's handled that way. The danger is not imminent so it's lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:00 PM
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I'm gonna hit this one more time because my other comment focused on legality and not so much morality. I think you're lumping any and all negative consequences together as essentially equal when they aren't. Quid pro quo is common and it's how most of the world works. Money for goods, labor for money etc. It's not a bad thing inherently but it can be. We basically make moral categories for this on a spectrum. Where in the moral spectrum things lie is really just based on the degree of free will…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:52 PM
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I do not consider most sexual ultimatums to be SA, unless the consequences of the ultimatum infringe on the rights of the subject, i.e. the person giving the ultimatum doesn't have the right to do what they're threatening to do This is where you destroy your argument. Though you are correct in a way. I'll break it down; As the workplace goes Quid pro quo sexual harassment is illegal and the issuer of this ultimatum does not have the right to issue it to begin with. That said, it generally doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:20 PM
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Technically/legally.... not exactly. Quid pro quo harassment is illegal , so is discriminatory termination. For this scenario the proposition is qpq harassment. If the harassed does acquiesce, it is still qpq harassment if they can show it was unwanted but is not SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:13 AM
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Here's the thing, why is it being brought up? I mean all I can think of is that its ongoing or it's gonna come up somehow so they might as well talk about it upfront....idk...honestly thats the part that seems suspect. My ex wife made some accusations during custody battle that were quickly disproven. Even CPS dismissed them as vindictive because her story made no sense and the kids didn't corroborate. It's not first date material because it's really insignificant at this point. What makes this …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:31 PM
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It's almost always a mix. Which people generally accept as long as the mix isn't too unbalanced. They still end up bitching, but some of that is an easy fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:44 PM
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Financially there's no real argument. Gay couples on average are more financially successful than any other arrangement, even if they have kids At the same time, I could be rich by having skipped every time I ate out and invested that money instead. Would I feel like I had a better life? Maybe, but the majority of people choose hundreds or thousands of small pleasures throughout life over becoming rich. So maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:41 PM
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Pretty much. I feel like the complaints break down in a rudimentary way to; Women: ok I get it, you think I'm sexy ( don't stop that) , what else? Men: ok I get it, I can do things for you ( don't stop that), what else? Probably a lot of problems could be alleviated by men making a conscious effort to appreciate what she does and women making a conscious effort to appreciate that he's sexy. Both common POVs also come with the issue that the naturally appreciated bit feels interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:33 PM
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That's , in a way, a crux I feel we're burdened with through our socialization. We learn people love us for what we can do, so we learn to feel like people love us when we do things for them, particularly when they are not very capable of it themselves. I don't know whether it's actually bad or good overall. It can be either at times. I suppose it's kind of an exchange. I can't deny some of the affection I give a woman is due to sexual attraction so I guess it's fair some of the affection I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:27 PM
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I think the majority of people are some version of Goldilocks when it comes to this type of thing. They'll enjoy it if it falls within their " just right" range of circumstances. Some "just right" ranges are very broad and some are very narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:16 PM
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I've lived barracks life. I've lived for year long missions within the US in which I had an apartment with one other male. I've lived in a house with two other guys for a year. Male partnerships will see your money rack up like crazy. They're relatively stress free. It's not bad. One thing I see in stark contrast because of it is how much extra duty and responsibility is placed on a man by a woman and how much they use their sexual leverage, whether consciously, subconsciously or actually becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:27 PM
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It's not just men. https://theworld.org/stories/2016/07/31/women-seen-objects-men-people-finds-new-psychology-study
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:33 PM
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50/50 says who? Generally the law. You know, the legal contract that is marriage. Can you go to court against your partner for fraud if she don't provides the sahm service Essentially what divorce is, your option to dissolve the partnership, wherein the other partner will be granted 50% of the enterprise. You're not going to reclaim anything but essentially the assumption is that as long as you kept the contract in force you were satisfied with the partners performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:04 PM
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You're not. SAHP is their job. They aren't even an employee, they're a 50/50 partner in your little enterprise. They're entitled to half the household income, and half of the expenses. As any other 50/50 partner would be. After their half of the expenses, whatever is left of their half of the income really is theirs to begin with. You're not "giving" anything, just paying them their cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:37 PM
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I like your principle. Your idea of execution is exceedingly poor though. Maintaining personal responsibility means no one should ever make themselves totally dependant on someone else. The ways you think to accomplish this are simply low level trashy ways to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:29 PM
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Meh, it doesn't need to be crazy amounts or anything. Just basically the kind of saving you would have if you lost your job. Same principle. This person should be able to have funds enough to suffice until they pick up a job and then eventually the divorce will settle assets anyhow. Basically just enough to leave tomorrow and not be in the streets. This is just basic personal accountability. I have enough to get fired tomorrow and hold myself up for a couple months until I have a new job. Same p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:13 PM
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Women can't handle and don't even want to try to have that responsibility. Nobody really wants to be anyone's only source of anything really. It's not good on either side of 100% dependence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:17 PM
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Because it's so easy to get another / lower sex drive. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:44 PM
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Sort of. Non chalant attitude often comes from having plenty of options. That's why it signals value but it signals value either way. So you can detract from your appeal by appearing eager or add to it by appearing uninvested. Works the same in negotiation, but there does have to be some interest to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:02 PM
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None of this surprises me. Did you think you'd really get self aware answers? Women will never say " I got pumped and dumped by the hotter ones" Here's what it looks like from the outside. Let's say she a 5, She slept with a range of men. 5-8 maybe even a 4 here and there. The general pattern is the 8s pumped and dumped , 7s tried spin that plate, 6s gave it a chance 50/50, 5s did too, 4s tried their hardest. She stuck with the 6 that actually tried. Love lens now makes him the hottest , best on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:28 AM
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Sometimes. There's a fine line though between shes got no attraction and needs convinced and shes attracted but has a misconception about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:18 AM
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Pretty easy. Get a negative experience with the same group enough times you'll resent them. We're pattern seekers, we use those patterns to shortcut fully digesting new experiences which makes us assume, or in other words form a prejudice. Hate in this context is obviously hyperbole for most people and usually just stands in for frustrated, resentful....whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:22 PM
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Of course Anniston was basically the "it girl" at the time so a lot of this is likely just trend/status related.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:45 PM
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Idk, I mean on a non celebrity scale sure, he'd be one of the 5 better looking guys at the local club or bar or whatever but hot enough to justify snagging some of the best looking celebrity women?....doesn't entirely explain it. Status, charisma, just trending etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:27 PM
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(as someone very close to 8") It's not really a direct correlation to attraction level. It's that all the things that happen to woman during arousal take time ( pelvic floor contraction, lubrication etc.) , which can be sped up a bit by attraction level. Time building up has a bigger influence. Women definitely seem to adapt as well, after the first 4-5 times it's not a big deal for women who it initially was a big to. Just if we get into an unusual or just less easy position for her. Eg. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:45 PM
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Sort of. It's not like direct correlation thing but there's some sort of proportional range limits and weak correlation. Similar to feet. At 6'1" 200lbs I could have size 9 to size 14 , most likely 10-12 while outside 9-14 would be freakish. Same for hands, head, any other body part, it doesn't directly correlate but certainly puts odds of a certain range higher. For instance the world record largest vagina was of course a woman who was 7'11.5" tall and weighed up to 400lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:32 PM
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Yes. If you're ugly I will throw rocks at you Its just instinctive , plus I can't find a decent torch these days. I mean, who do these women think they are that they can just walk around being ugly? The nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:20 AM
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Sort of....in the sense that I'm going to have to be attracted to her and highly attracted helps. Among those it's going to then come down to compatibility. If I'm extremely reductive, the one who I'm attracted to, likes me back, and is the least trouble is the one that gets picked. Pretty and peaceful...done. Why is she still single? Something is wrong with her if she is over (_)yo and single. Rarely, only in the case that she's never had a committed relationship and shes Xyo... can be a yellow…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:13 AM
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I have, this reads like a carbon copy of every craigslist personal written by truck drivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:52 PM
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I'm embarrassed by proxy for this level of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:03 PM
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Lol. Just a quick search for "all men are rapists" , in this sub brings up no shortage of threads making that claim in the title, no need to look into comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:11 PM
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Well, my mother would beat me bloody. Sometimes shed make it more psychological and tell me shed abandon me somewhere or hurt my little brother unless I put my finger or fingers in the door jamb and allowed her to break them. When she couldn't anymore she enlisted a step dad to do it, he wasnt as enthusiastic about it though so he'd usually just choke me unconscious instead. Shed lie to keep him out of trouble for it. Singled me out among us three brothers to potentially adopt out as well. Beyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:26 PM
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Honestly there are a ton of women who i wouldn't have a whole lot to relate to. What you do with them is the generic shit everyone does. Watch shows, eat food, tease and banter. A lot of relationships are basically this with the general aspect of being attracted and getting along. Probably the vast majority, most people are honestly pretty boring. It just makes the fun women stand out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:00 PM
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That " sub human" treatment is honestly just normal, neutral everyday interaction if you're most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:32 PM
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Nah, I'm attractive. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Does it have some negatives? Sure, but complaining about them would be like , " man my wallet is too small for all these 100's I got for nothing". I just had a really awkward situation over the weekend. Two women ( friends) damn near got physical over my attention despite me not encouraging a damn thing and both knowing I have a gf. Made the whole small gathering awkward. I'm not gonna bitch the gathering would have been more fun. I'm gonna …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:23 PM
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Not to mention how unpleasant any involvement with our police can be, no matter your role.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:29 PM
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IME, it's mostly related to perceived value, with personal dynamic as secondary. Someone sees a seriously hurt bum or crackhead hooker, they may step around, or even over them without making a phone call. Middle age blue collar man ...eh mixed reaction. Yuppie, someone's gonna help. Cute young lady, crowds clamor to help. Children, sure people want to help, but even here dynamic steps in. Eg.Men will be slower if it could even kind of put them in a precarious spot. Gender and race dynamics play …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:25 PM
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The rules. You get 2-3 good years automatically. Year 4 is accurate and if it's not acceptable it's time to trade in. No heavy commitment before year 4 has been mostly experienced. It will not get better after this. No matter the issue blamed it will be instantly and magically cured for the next guy. Be someone else's next guy. If that thing you want hasn't happened by month 6 it ain't happening. You will not get that carrot no matter how much she promises you will if you just take a few more st…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:39 AM
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Wow, you jumped the track. If it was unclear I was referring to our sexual strategy perhaps the very next comment in the string should have gave you a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:08 AM
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Buddy the majority are going to have to. All of those things are special because only a minority can achieve them. It doesn't mean women, or people in general aren't attracted to those things. Just means that by the numbers not everyone can have them. We are still going to go for someone who excites us though so what else is there to go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:09 PM
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This here. It's why you see so a lot of relationship failures short term. It's after that 1-3 yrs a lot women start reflecting on how good this person really is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:05 PM
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For all the talk like this is a new thing...I'll point to the first plot point of jailhouse rock. All of the anecdotes and fears people portray in these posts are mirrored there. To save some the trouble. Elvis is in a bar and a dude is physically abusing his wife/gf idk, Elvis goes to punch him, accidental throat punch. Dude drops, woman turns on Elvis. Dude dies...Elvis goes to prison. This message has been out there a while just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:29 PM
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I think theoryof marriages moving up the hierarchy of needs holds some water. So by today's standards I would say no? Depending on your meaning. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/09/we-expect-way-too-much-from-our-romantic-partners/541353/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/2014_FinkelHuiCarswellLarson_PsychInquiry-Copy.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiK67-Cw5uIAxVvCnkGHUtQMiMQgMkKegQIIRAL&usg=AOvVaw2Bs-bdoFsr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:21 AM
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Funny thing is, children are never afraid of me. Worst case, they give me a curious look, I give em a goofy side eye and that's that, we're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:55 PM
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Haha Eh, I mean it's just a fresh example but ( see ETA) it's actually blatantly obvious how much better I'm received by strange women if my gf or just her 10yr old daughter are with me. I'm experienced enough to know though that even helping someone up I approach first with some sort of hey I'm here to help gestures and speech. I mean I kinda get it , I'm a fairly big guy, it's still a bit sad though. At least im conscious of how to use them to "vouch" for me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:53 PM
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Idk I honestly can't really help myself from helping in most scenarios but I do understand why men are a bit reluctant. I'll skip the bulk of dozens of other stories and just go with a fresh one from three days ago; Was in the grocery store with my girlfriend. I go over to get lunch meat , she's at the end of a nearby isle. She comes over and says " see that woman in the red top? She needs help from a tall person getting something" I go over to offer. She literally does the pearl clutch motion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:41 PM
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I hope this is exaggerated hyperbole. I mean you took the truth and just blew it way up and threw in a bunch of absolutes and ignored other parts of the truth. That's just ranting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:01 AM
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Funny response from someone who clearly can't read. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:51 AM
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My wife...heavens no, of course I don't like her, she's only for making babies. This was my girlfriend...she's pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:25 AM
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They don't really so much trust in that scenario, they just know they've already removed their biggest source of distrust. Hot guy she just met and wants ," should I invite him over?" " "Well it's not like he could rape me tehe" (actual quote) It's more like they don't care so much whether they can trust you. Though I sorta see how you're classifying it that way because part of that is the assumption you aren't in short supply anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:26 PM
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Nobody ever said they don't have an attitude about it. In fact the evidence would suggest it causes the female gorillas no end of competition, anxiety and distress as well. Many animals with any sort of poly arrangement only accept it tacitly. Particularly those with a mildly poly arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:53 PM
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Only if you focus on strictly upper class. Mid and lower class partnerships and marriage were mostly not much different than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:12 PM
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Anthropologists characterize human beings as "mildly polygynous" or "monogamous with polygynous tendencies."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:19 PM
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I've never met a drinker or smoker who at some point in their life hadn't claimed they never would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:27 PM
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If we were observers from the outside, studying humans, I don't think we'd come to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:19 PM
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Well, regardless of it being nonsense it does does sound plausible in a way, except no rape is necessary. Women choose winners, it's evolutionary advantageous. The second girl ( we were 16) I ever had sex with i met when i beat up her boyfriend. She developed a crush right there on the spot. Silly movie but; I'm reminded of "year one" where the guy goes to rescue her and she like " they have better clothes, food, and hotter guys here, why would I want to go back?" It's really not far removed fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:17 PM
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I'm watching the opposite unfold in real time. My SO is your fairly typical liberal, feminist, academic type. Last night she made a comment about a " spoiled stay at home wife" that seemed a little jealous. I replied that was not what she ever wanted , right? I mean it was obvious from her path, and she could have went for that if that's what she wanted. She replies " well, that was before I knew how much of a pain in the ass it is to go to work everyday" " I don't want to work" The longer she h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:12 PM
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No matter how much we want to think it isn't true it's actually pretty true of all relationships to one degree or another. Anyone who could continually does nice things for someone will expect something in return. When they don't get it they'll either complain or ease back on doing the nice things. Regardless people get frustrated and start viewing things as one sided. It's even done with friendships. The only thing that really changes is how premeditated that is. Doing it because you're expecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:18 AM
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I have to disagree in that those hobbies are currently issues, just not as high in the list of awareness. I mean " I'm gonna miss her " released in 02 and remains popular. Though at that point we're just kind of pointlessly squabbling anyhow since in large part we are in agreement. Mildly interesting side note: I think golf and fishing get their negative rep from the fact it takes a committed chunk of time usually the better part of a day or more to do. While gaming has almost the opposite probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:41 PM
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Basically we're on the same page doesn't really matter specifically that it's gaming. Fishing has a reputation here as well. " I'm gonna miss her 🎵......" But yeah, it's just got the big rep for exactly that right now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:00 PM
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I don't doubt it. I think the dynamic of it just always being readily accessible can contribute to it becoming a time suck too. I get it also. Hell it's annoying when my SO sits in bed doom scrolling Facebook instead of paying attention to me, or at least reading her latest book. I don't know the actual numbers of people who spend unhealthy amounts of time or choose it inappropriately but of course those would be subjective standards anyhow. It's just the assumption though if someone sees gamer …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:06 PM
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Ooh , challenging... https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-a0034857.pdf that took two seconds For the record I don't even play, never got real into it and haven't pick up a controller in probably ten years. Still easy to recognize it's probably more beneficial than watching TV and movies. Besides, of it had no real benefit like many forms of R and R, it would still be able to be productive just because doing things you enjoy recharges you and gets you more productive. sure gamers are fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:47 PM
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That applies to any hobby. The question at hand was why specifically gaming is seen as the worst. Bottom line, it's assumed to be the biggest time suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:26 PM
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I doubt the criteria. Fishing and golf used to be the time sucks that ladies congealed around complaining about and instigated divorces. I don't think it matters what it is. If it's overdone or takes a big time commitment that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:18 PM
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But, why would gamer ladies be complaining about people playing video games? I'm pretty sure they weren't referring to gamer ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:02 PM
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I mean, all of those things considered the closest analogs I can think of are golf and fishing. They used to be blamed for as many relationship fails as gaming. A country song about fishing comes to mind. " I'm gonna miss her...when I get home" Both also easy to overdo but for different reasons than gaming. Mostly because they are big time commitments at a chunk, while gaming is just so readily accessible it becomes a time suck. .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:53 PM
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Not everyone lets their source of entertainment consume them. Leisure of some type keeps people productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:45 PM
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I think this is it. It's not the thing itself, it's the assumption of it being a big distraction that's never productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:00 PM
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Nice. Hypoagency and complete lack of responsibility along with "choose better" all in one response. From the OP who hates "choose better". This is one of many problems with your take. You realize choose better doesn't necessarily mean choose better men. That's just assuming you aren't capable without being dependant on a man. When I bought a house the responsible choice was to buy one that I could possibly afford by myself which meant I didn't actually have to rely on my wife's income, same wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:35 PM
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It sounds good in theory but honestly no. It's great if she takes a passing interest but I'm fairly certain that wrenching, remodeling, heavy landscaping etc will develop women in ways I really don't find attractive. My SO and I are into partner dance. She likes to ask about how mechanical things work and she's got the majority of the better interior design ideas and may help with painting. I enjoy her " look what I got" fashion shows and we like to make dinners by both trying a new recipe side …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:36 AM
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No more than six weeks for any given thing. That's to like, hooking up. Making friends ito a point of exchanging contacts idk 3 days max.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:14 AM
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It's because for men our friendships are viewed largely in terms of mutual activity rather than terms of emotional connection. Therefore men are thinking " does my wife need to go shooting, wrench on cars, mountain bike and play basketball and video games with me?" Nope...guess she doesn't need to be my best friend. I think women see best friends as closest emotional connection. So men have a different category for woman who is my closest emotional connection and that's wife/SO. In other words, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:15 PM
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Wrong, and you know it because we've had this discussion, but go ahead and keep quoting single state studies from 1989 with obfuscated terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:12 AM
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Are you saying they make you pee? Or they peed on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:44 PM
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Basically what I came to say. For me 25-54 ( way bigger than my real age range) is 39% of America. 60% are fat. I'm already down to around 16% with almost no standards. For younger people 18-24 is 13%, so we are well under 20. Eliminate the 40% that are overweight, were already hanging out around 5% I think if most of us kept track we'd say it's around 1-3% of people that we think are attractive, and that says nothing explicitly of actually being interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:43 PM
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" ignore all the studies, they're wrong cuz....trust me"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:20 PM
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When someone suggests freezing eggs as some solution to putting off reproduction it just makes me think of this. " Just as soon as the right guy comes along" 🤞 So does " in this economy?" And then the advice of multiple older people pops in my head. " If you wait for the perfect time to have a kid, you never will"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:25 PM
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If we were talking strictly for sexual selection about 3:1 makes nothing sides happy. However every scenario I've been in with a surplus of women saw an unsustainable workload on men without bringing in other men to handle that. Without analysing every detail 50/50 is probably best when considering the balance of all things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:22 PM
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At least in the short ish term and not completely isolated I can tell you from experience this isn't really the case. I've been in scenarios where for at least months and most a couple years on end the immediate ratio was about 4:1. Near zero men got no action. About 20% of women dropped out of it and at least mostly didn't participate. You had a handful of solid pairings and the rest was a bit pseudo harem ish. With few complaints from either side. Granted we have some outside influence here. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:13 PM
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https://youtu.be/sP2tUW0HDHA?si=jRJOO7BqNjzqs5k-
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:49 PM
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It's not all that unreasonable really, but it is Ill advised as a policy. So since idk my late 30's I'll at least occasionally have times when she's in the mood and I'm honestly not really. She tries anyhow, end result is pretty much " well, you got it hard, it's yours now". Same goes honestly for many women when they do feel pretty neutral. They will kinda let things go, see if they end up aroused and often will be at least marginally aroused at some point. Neither of these scenarios results in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:41 PM
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Probably. I had a glow up and just became a big slut. Could finally get what I wanted, I was the proverbial kid in a candy store.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:39 PM
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In a sense, yes. I think on average what we see in the long term are couples finding each other who would fall within maybe a single overall value point of one another. The discrepancy only comes in with a bit of chance and with what people value. Typically this means weighting falls into a set similar to this: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/12/05/americans-see-different-expectations-for-men-and-women/ Then you have to kind of figure that each individual is looking at overall val…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:02 PM
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That 22-25 number is for men as the only provider. Using the same 60% of household income qualification as the main provider it's 58 or so percent. So Europe, albeit a rather broad category , is posting similar numbers that actually lean into men usually making even bigger portions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:15 PM
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Not quite. 55% of marriages have a husband as sole or primary breadwinner. Classified as making at least 60% of the income ( or 150% of what she makes). Leaving 29% in the category of egalitarian. Considering that includes anything in the up to 150% of what she makes category. Median earnings for husbands: 65k Median earnings for wives; 35k I think it's fair to say that normally he makes a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:10 PM
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Not generally. Eg. NY is flat percentage rate. OH they just add together the incomes then use a table to determine what a kid in that total income household would get then split it usually within a few percent of 50 regardless of who makes what portion. Works out so that the more she makes the more you pay, unless her income drops, then the portion of 50 is adjusted so you pay a similar amount anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:34 PM
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Probably. Even monkeys that were given coins first learned to use them for food. Second , took it upon themselves to use it for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:24 PM
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Generally people are treated exactly the way they present themselves and accept. This is really just the same issue any individual faces within a group. Their group has acted a certain way and elicited a certain reaction and now they are frustrated they face prejudices based on it. Really comes down to "well not me though" , although typically they've in some way participated in the groups culture that gets the treatment they resent anyhow. You may have many within the group who are undeserving …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:30 PM
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They don't. Most women view it as a negative for one reason or another. Association with the mom, ( couldn't tell you how many joke ," only if the mom died" , thoughts of responsibility to kids that aren't theirs etc etc. The only difference is that they may respect it or think it's cute at times but when it comes to dating it definitely leans into the negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:51 PM
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They only are in presentation. In reality they reinforce it at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:42 PM
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I can't count the number of times I've heard women say of their male friends something along the lines of " kind of thought about it with him at first but now I value his friendship too much"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:14 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:25 AM
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It's a case of not seeing the forest for the trees. What makes something trend to begin with is that it's seen as attractive. Then comes the peer pressure and intrasexual competition. It's all a bit convoluted by niche groups but you still have the same thing happening within a smaller community. We all want to be desired, but especially women. If none of the opposite sex found something attractive essentially nobody would do it. Even looking at intrasexual competition, the winner is the one who…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:05 PM
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Pretty much. Men are the producers of romance, women are the consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:26 PM
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Not in my experience. In fact it seemed to be just enough buffer and limitation to keep you appreciating your partner instead of taking for granted something constantly available.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:32 PM
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Yes. When you meet a woman who you really trust and admire and adore, at some point baby rabies definitely creeps in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:04 PM
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This is in fact the typical problem. I've had many female friends interested in casual situations. The problem is if they're upfront about it every guy wants to act like shes a free 1-900 number or something. It's like the majority don't understand that she still wants to be treated essentially the same but she's gonna be easier and have different standards and no future plans. Still a person, still a woman, and not a hired one. You're still gonna have to excite her in a similar fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:41 PM
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As the other poster said, if you're not open about it you're just cheating, not plate spinning. I suppose the difference is Fwb can still be exclusive at least while you're actively having sex, just in a health concern way. Plus if your spinning they really don't need to be friends either. I'd describe spinning as what we used to call just dating around. Though again, the point is that they at least know you may be seeing others which creates a sense of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:24 PM
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Honestly how most of my longest relationships have started. Casual , no expectations, we mutually caught feelings. I really think it's best this way. When you start out with certain expectations you sort of steer it that way and also only see someone for the box you're trying to fit them in in. It distorts your vision. I like when It just happens best. Hell I feel like I made a great choice when we just see each other because we just feel satisfied with what we have for a long period of time eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:20 PM
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Ive always been open about it, it's fine. It is plate spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:51 PM
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Nah, it's as close to true equal opportunity as it gets. Just as everything else should be. Take the NFL for example. It's open to everyone but it hasn't got any women because women really aren't fit for it. If women really aren't fit for politics, they simply won't be there. If they can succeed, then by all means go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:54 AM
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Easier actually on the whole. If women weren't wasting their time on bad choices things would actually even out a bit. So instead of guys like me seeing 3-4 women at a time ( in a lot of my past ) , 2-3 of those would be freed up to make a better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:45 PM
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That is dead on. Being capable, and having some fantasy desire...still doesn't mean you actually want it in reality. I don't know that women have much of the same desire to commit acts of violence, but I know it occasionally enters the mind frame. I know my mom has at least once stated that she has some respect for men when realizing their sheer strength and admitting if she had it she's not sure she would have the same self control. Either way, I think mentally for men it's the closest comparis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:55 AM
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Men tend to be doers in this regard. We're jealous you could have anything you want , on a whim and yet often never fulfill the whim. It's inherently difficult for a man to understand just fantasizing about something that even given the opportunity you wouldn't actually do. At least until were presented with the realistic option. Though for us , those are generally situations of commiting violence of some type. Which doesn't actually rank all that high in most of our desires. I guess these are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:19 AM
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I've seen more of just to get someone to take them in a boat or whatever it is they want to that day. Women aren't stupid, they know they can use men. It's up to men to quit letting it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:00 AM
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I saw a post recently where a woman said, "Am I justified in ghosting a guy if he suggests a hike for a first date?" Her rationale was that he should be aware that a hiking trail is a dangerous spot to meet an unknown man. And, I actually agree with her. But, I also thought... Why couldn't she have just said that to him? Why couldn't she have just suggested a new idea? Was his suggestion so revealing that it was enough to write him off entirely? I don't think it was. Ok yeah, ghosting is dumb 97…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:55 AM
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Look I appreciate youre being candid, and I give it 50/50 whether your view of yourself as unnatractive is true since women are often hard on themselves looks wise. I'm just saying that you saying you never get any attention really undermines the position of a lot of guys here who literally never get female attention. Especially after seeing another comment of yours saying no woman ever has to do much to at least get laid. An honest assessment would be that you struggle and only get male attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:47 AM
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True enough, but it still sort of ends up being the service sentiment. Idk how much is natural but we are definitely taught that we are loved for what we do and we tend to take that to heart IME. When a woman appreciates that we did something in her service we feel appreciated. I just think it ties in there because,well, how can you serve someone you have such a topical connection to? Personally, and it may be me, but when I do in fact do something for anyone they couldn't do for themselves and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:37 AM
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Umm, your last comment just mentioned being asked out. Now , again, you may struggle but you went with " never" instead of yes I struggle. I'm sorry but that painted an unrealistic picture of your actual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:25 AM
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Most want to do it once. IME women have at least a stage where they just have a bit of fantasy about certain archetypes. It may not be a long held desire or anything but there's kind of a standard checklist of archetypes that most have some affinity for at least in fantasy world. The reality of it may turn them off but one major difference in male vs female sexuality is the ability of women to know that some things are best left to fantasy/roleplay situations. Men want these things to come true,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:17 AM
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That's not the question at hand. Plenty of men here have gotten to know lots of women and still never got a bit of attention. Saying you never got any attention from men but have had boyfriends and dates is just showing some solipsism. Again, you may get a lot less relative to your peers but that isn't literally never.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:13 AM
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Maybe partly. I think most of us are just uncomfortable whether by nature or nurture or a mix with not taking that role, or at least with the opposite. I know personally I rejected a rich lady because she wouldn't stop buying me little stuff. It was thoughtful, every time I met with her she had bought every little thing she had learned I liked, but it made me uncomfortable and I told her that and she wouldn't stop. Myself and a lot of other men like to be appreciated for what we do and I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:09 AM
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Never get any male attention but have had dates an d boyfriends....do you understand the words you are producing? You realize when a guy in here says never he literally means never? As in some of these guys have never had a date or been kissed and that's is the standard for never.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:57 AM
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Sorry but no. Average and below men get zero attention while average and below women get limited attention. They may be the same relative to peers but they are not in the same universe relative to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:52 AM
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I'm only here to compliment the candid nature of this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:45 AM
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Lol. Do a GI , inspection level of cleaning in just one room in the house, one time and watch women get pissed about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:31 AM
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I mean, damn near half isn't exactly pointing at a relic of the past. Although tbf every source I've ever seen ,it's men who have more of an attitude that men should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:26 AM
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https://www.elitesingles.com/mag/relationship-advice/who-should-pay-for-date 300k people don't quite agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:29 AM
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I'm sorry but you haven't supported your claim at all. You seem to have argued the opposite. That in fact all attraction is genuine, since one form is no more real than another. I'd be with you if you said unconditional love doesn't exist. I think though that colloquially when people say genuine they are referring to something a person didnt reason themselves into, or its spontaneous or it is at least less dependant on external factors. Basically attractions that do fall into the typical five ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:43 PM
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Just to be that guy. Moyle horses often have small frontal skull bosses, referred to as "horns" on their foreheads, a trait seen only in a few breeds, such as the Carthusian horse of Spain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:27 PM
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And how many of them also would never fuck you? Hell I can't hink of too many of mine who would not fuck me under any circumstance. That's partly my point. Most often, one or the other has an attraction, as evidenced by the number of times for you that it happened to be both parties. Main point being both viewpoints are true. Just depends on where you put them in the friend gradient. Can be very beneficial, can be a big hindrance. People spouting one view or the other too much are focusing on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:57 AM
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I couldn't care less about what is really rp or isn't but that friends bit is honestly a fine line. For you, self admittedly 7/8 of your boyfriends basically came from friend scenarios. In some sense this shows the men and women can't be friends bit. To some degree it's true, particularly with younger people. Most of the time someone has an attraction and sometimes it's mutual. I would say it's somewhat rare that neither party does. That said, I think what we see with this is a push against burn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:36 AM
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Yes, someone here once described it as Legolas to Aragorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:03 AM
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Nobody said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:41 PM
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Not his fault. I remember just about every girl in my 9th grade class having crushes on one teacher in his early 30s and decent looking. Just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:33 PM
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Sounds like like they're pretty good at getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:09 PM
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It would be unusual for any man to say. Because it's already assumed men can take care of themselves. For men the bar where you get to start claiming some sort of accomplishment is when you provide for a whole family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:08 PM
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Divorced would imply some success at getting women. How many times have they been divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:57 PM
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23% of marriages have men as the only income earners so.... a big chunk are with women nowhere near their field.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:43 PM
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Yeah 55% outearn , as in make over 60% of the household income and more than half of those make all of the income. 29% make about the same. So 84% of marriages women went across or above. 16% went below and it only took 50 years for that number to jump from 5% to 16%. 6% of marriages have women as sole breadwinners 23% have men as sole breadwinners. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:39 PM
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The women who are really difficult to tell with just aren't very strong down there or there's too big of a difference in how tight they are vs how big you are at the moment. There's more that's hard to word and there's no silver bullet it's a lot of experience but best I can explain are these few things; Can you tell if someone kicks their leg voluntarily when doing a reflex test? It's similar. Try and fake it yourself, observe the difference between how your dick pulses for real and how it puls…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:01 PM
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One of the first requests I had from a repeat client was to not worry about whether she got off. I worked for it the first time. Said the first time she felt like she had to, didn't like the pressure. Preferred to just relax and enjoy the touch. She'd get off maybe 1:4 times. Mostly it was like giving a sensual backrub. She just kind of zen'd out. I liked that one, no pressure on either side, she was hot too. I suspect the freedom of not meeting requests or pleasing someone else was a big part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:16 AM
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Oh it happens, and with some women it's difficult to tell, others it's very obvious. I have a lot of experience, mid hundreds ( not counting pro encounters) . Also, hi, been a gigolo...women tend to be pretty honest and demanding about something theyre paying for. You can't kegel as quick or as reflexively as a real orgasm, especially with those who get overly sensitive and reflexively do it at the slightest touch after.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:02 AM
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Yeah, no. I can kegel my dick it doesn't work the same as the spasms from orgasm. About the same as kicking your leg can be done on a reflex test and it's still pretty obvious if it was actually reflex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:52 AM
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Mostly. Some women have mental blocks. As soon as it kinda feels like they could they close off and can't let go enough. They pretty much have to do it themselves...with help, and a rare handful can only do it literally alone in a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:48 AM
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From what their docs told them it's moreso a result of the fact that birth control can cause the cervix to sort of fill with blood and be thin skinned.. ...? Im told it wasn't painful just surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:16 AM
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As a big dicked guy , yes it would have been ok eventually. I've had women who bled every time for the first few months. Eventually it's fine. The damn thing can push out a baby, no dick is too much except maybe at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:09 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:07 AM
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7.75....yes, most can just fine. Just takes a little while and avoiding going full depth in some positions. Turns out good, just have to be aware it's gonna take a bit for the pelvic floor to relax enough. Plus side, easy to really feel your orgasms and get our parts talking to each other ( that thing where every pulse mine does elicits an answer from yours)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:05 AM
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https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/film/over-a-century-later-greta-gerwig-brings-justice-to-little-women/#:~:text=Alcott's%20%E2%80%9CLittle%20Women%E2%80%9D%20novels%20regrettably,sell%20if%20Jo%20remained%20unmarried. Alcott’s “Little Women” novels regrettably ended with Jo marrying Professor Friedrich (Louis Garrel, “Rifkin’s Festival”), a man she worked with in New York, to satisfy the public. Alcott’s publishers advised her that the book wouldn’t sell if Jo remained unmarried. “Girls write …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:00 PM
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Alcott married Jo off to Friedrich as a fuck you to her publishers. Lots of fans writing in begging to have her marry the Chad of the story. Publishers insisted she have Jo marry so she picked the least favored character. To everyone's general dismay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:43 PM
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The whole sub, and 80% of the internet as cave art; https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna47418532
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:34 AM
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Unconditional? I highly doubt that. Less conditional or at least more understanding I can believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:32 AM
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Seems fairly obvious honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:30 AM
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Same for CDC. Whether it's obesity or anything else. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7009a5.htm They do it this way with most things. The categories are essentially children, adolescents, adults, middle aged adults, seniors. But In 2017–March 2020, differences by age group were not statistically significant. Obesity prevalence was 39.8% among U.S. adults aged 20–39 years, 44.3% among adults aged 40–59 years, and 41.5% among adults aged 60 years and older..2 https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:26 AM
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Lol. Tends to be all single women. Most people aren't as active when they're taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:45 AM
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I know coaches who play DnD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:37 PM
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Part of why partner dance is great. We all enjoy it, tends to lean female a bit but pretty much has to have fairly even numbers and there's no real internal boys/girls clubs that limit interaction since we pretty much need each other to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:00 PM
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I'm not sexually attracted to men either, doesn't mean I don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:32 PM
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No, not a chance. There's a word for people we like a lot but aren't sexually attracted to.....friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:06 PM
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Lol. What are you just trolling? https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0022-3514.87.4.494 In-group bias This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger than those of men. women who were ostracized from a ball-toss game worked harder on a subsequent group task, presumably because groups are more likely to accept hard workers (K. D. Williams & Sommer, 1997). A Bisschoff · 2022 — From this study it can …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:23 AM
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Haha, all you have to do is give a slight counterpoint for women to argue that RP is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:57 PM
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There's that too. Still,more abstract. Plus I think a lot of men underestimate context and don't give enough credence to how much the rest matters. If she's into you more , you get a lot of lover points. I think men tend to reverse cause and effect here in a lot of ways. We experience it too but to explain to a guy it's like hey , if that fat lady sucks your dick better you're still not going to be as into it as that hot one sucking you at all. The experience is often more relative to the attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:27 PM
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Kind of is. Everyone experiences peer pressure, need to conform to some degree etc. However it has been shown that social ostracization is a motivator for women to a much higher degree than men. Women will respond by working harder to be accepted while men will often abandon the group or even make efforts to sabotage the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:16 PM
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In this case it's an active subject and a passive subject. There's no denying women play a passive role in dating by and large.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:55 PM
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Precisely. You see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:53 PM
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It works out great, and women do share many of their behaviors with prey animals but that's beside the point. Any time someone is actively searching out anything, hunting is a metaphor, so much so that the words can even be used synonymously. Framing a search as a hunt is just accurate. Your issue with the metaphor is just some sanctimonious horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:17 PM
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Eh, I've noticed women don't do this sort of thing directly. It's more like a standard. So you don't think " he needs to match brad or he isn't as good as brad " etc. It's more abstract. Just a feeling. It may not be comparing specifically and consciously but it's still, obviously experience where your frame of reference for good and bad comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:10 AM
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I'm not OP but who cares? I've been with women who almost always could from piv , ones who almost always or even always needed oral, ones who only could with a vibrator, ones who only could by themselves with a hard nosed teddy bear with certain fur. It's about real desire. It's not hard to tell someone's motivations and once you concentrate on the motivations for behaviors rather than behaviors themselves people become pretty transparent. There's no silver bullet behavior that tells someones fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:59 AM
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Interesting there has been no reaction whatsoever to where I explained a bit of it.....I'm guessing this is more personally questioning OP than it is questioning whether some men know exactly what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:08 AM
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The only thing they say is " my name is Jose"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:45 PM
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Truthfully with some women it's very easy, others not as much. Some women have pretty strong muscles there and it's pretty easy to tell involuntary spasms from voluntary. It's not all that dissimilar from the way your dick spasms during orgasm vs. if you're just repeatedly flexing. Also somewhat similar to how you can tell the difference between someone voluntarily moving their leg on a reflex test vs having it be actual reflex. Others it's fairly weak, would be easier to fake once or twice but …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:21 PM
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All the time. Same name, hair type, really anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:15 PM
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Well...clearly more of us have those underlying tendencies, since more of us let them become extreme like that. The woman who likes the illegal street racer, or the UFC fighter, or the green beret or the guy who casually breaks the rules at work isn't the same as the one who likes the serial killer but the underlying root is the same, they each want someone they think is a badass. That's the relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:00 PM
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It's because as with most of these types of behavior these are just extremes of a tendency that is in fact usual. Yes it's exaggerated, but it needs a root to be exaggerated, a root that is in fact common. It's the same with quite a few kinks, people who indulge in them have just taken a desire that most people have to some degree and exaggerated it. It's only semi relevant but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:59 PM
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About a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:02 PM
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Yeah, no. I'm above average. I do quite well for a guy. I could not make a profile and get any dates in 24 hours. Maybe a 1:10 chance I could snag a 3 that way. In a week we're looking at 50/50 I could get one date a point or two lower. A good month to get one close to looksmatch. And I'm being generous. I can however go out on almost any given night and get a number of someone who will end up meeting up with me and it's about 50/50 whether they'll be a looksmatch or within a point +/-. But then…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:01 PM
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Far my may be one thing but certainly marriage is another. The vast majority will not end up with a man making less https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:32 AM
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Yeah that's definitely not the norm. Not even kind of. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:30 AM
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Well, one extra clue that I can tell you , again, not a silver bullet but just something that can help to see how things add up sometimes. I know that when I'm asked to give a count, there's no way I could. So if I'm asked for just the past few years, I can pretty fairly tell you, names, or the one met here etc. but I'll nearly always forget one or two and have to go back and say oh wait.....this one too. It's memory, but also comes from how much it sticks out to me. For someone successful, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:51 PM
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You can't. I mean you might be able to get a feel for it. You can tell when someone could be seen as attractive to a number of other women and you can tell how high their own standards are to a degree. For the most part you will be able to suss out the extreme contradictions in what is reported vs what is probably reality with some degree of accuracy but there's no silver bullet to detect lying, it's an art form.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:13 PM
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We also like to see results from our courting. Due to habituation that requires an ever increasing level to get the same response. So dehabituation is necessary. Simple example; occasional flowers just because will elicit a greater response than daily flowers just because. It becomes a delicate dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:15 PM
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Pretty much , we as a species have shiny new toy syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:52 PM
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My working theory is that us humans simply have a habit of getting bored once we get what we want. Crudely, men get post nut clarity, women get post commitment clarity. This is why the jokes about marriage ending sex, this is why educated coupes shift the woman initiating higher ( less real issues to motivate men to do so in this category) etc. Also explains the shift towards women reporting less satisfaction after marriage even when compared to cohabiting coupes. And if we look at the data brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:46 PM
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Yes. One paradox of gender, marriage, and the life course, is that young single women appear to desire marriage and commitment more than men do, yet married women appear to be less satisfied by their marital experiences than married men are. It's the simple part no one is saying. Humans have a way of not appreciating what they have, a need for a chase. Women chase commitment, men chase sex. Women have roughly the same propensity to to get bored once they get what they're after that men do. We ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:12 PM
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Simply indicating they are generally more financially dependant on their husbands. Seems obvious when you consider only 15% of marriages involve a man making significantly less. They don't lose more in the divorce, they just lose their walking wallet. Men tend to bounce back financially better, but of course, they're on average the partner who makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:54 AM
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They don't lose more initially, they are just on average in worse financial situations during the following years. Men tend to bounce back financially better. Hinting that typically women are depending more on their husbands financially than the other way around , which is kind of obvious since only about 15% of marriages involve a man making significantly less than their partner. Of course the overall trend is for post divorce women to fare worse financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:50 AM
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According to a 2015 study by the American Sociological Association, college-educated women are more likely to initiate divorce than women with less education: Women initiate more divorces According to the study, women initiate 69% of all divorces in the U.S., but college-educated women initiate 90%. Overall chances go down, chances of the woman initiating go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:45 AM
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30% It drops more and more with income but levels off after 150k at around 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:28 AM
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" dog mom" " fur babies"....nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:06 AM
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Haha, perfect. I would say similar except with a double layer. My biggest issues were things like facial expressions,tone of voice, body language etc. both producing and understanding but as a guy I was on an even lower level than guys. Years of classes got me to do it second nature, but it's still a conscious effort. I just didn't have to experience the extra high expectations since I didn't have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:59 AM
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Well yes, of course. It was just one area that had to do with some certain functions....maybe I can find it at some point but really fuzzy memory suggests to me it's something you would expect....socializing, communicating... something along those lines. My takeaway was basically that , ok you have women who are functionally similar to normal men in social aspects but are socialized as women. Made me think it's quite a double edged sword. On one hand you're essentially going to have more trainin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:45 AM
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I was actually going to ask that based on this; There was almost no spectrum to speak of. However, there were 5 of us, myself included, who's brains lit up more like the opposite sex. (Like if a cis male brain is a 5, and a cis female brain is a 1, mine was like a 3.5...not quite the same as viewing the data, but that's the idea.) Three women and 2 men As I had seen an article on fmri where the lead researcher made a comment something to the effect of some of the findings about a certain brain s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:33 AM
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Happens constantly. A lot of research is rejected for publication or even peer review for being politically incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:20 AM
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