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| 5 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-exist | Debate | Funny_Protection1014 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 10:56 AM |
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| -1 | Why attempt to change your partner’s lifestyle rather than just finding someone who matches yours?You misunderstood my post. I want my girlfriend liking fashion and being sociable. I don't want her going out without me dressing provocatively, to clubs without me and having guy friends. My point is that if a girl likes fashion and is sociable (attractive), she probably also likes going clubbing, dressing provocatively and having guy friends (unattractive). OP was asking if we don't want these things, why do we just not go for girls who already don't do these things instead of trying to change… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 12:32 PM |
| -2 | Why attempt to change your partner’s lifestyle rather than just finding someone who matches yours?Plus it's not a case of having a different lifestyle and values like you claim it is. I like clubbing, fashion, seeing boobs hanging out and being sociable. But I don't want my woman doing those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayWell it's acceptable to 99% of men and women and society as a whole. You're the 1% who doesn't find it acceptable. I even chuckled when reading the post because I find it acceptable, even though I know I shouldn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:34 AM |
| 2 | All evidence suggests that people prefer a bad relationship to lonelinessI think most people who are accused of "being scared to be lonely" are not scared to be lonely at all, they just love the specific person they are with and are scared to lose that specific person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayThat sort of behavior is unacceptable no matter which gender is doing it It's not though is it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:15 AM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existPhilippines is a harder country to live in in general because it's a poor, corrupt 3rd world country | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 08:19 PM |
| 3 | “young attractive women live life on easy mode” - why this is a mislead statement.I guess so. But red pill doesn't claim to be wholesome or innocent. It claims that women are malicious so unless you want to get screwed over by them, you need to be malicious too and beat them at their own game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 08:17 PM |
| 4 | “young attractive women live life on easy mode” - why this is a mislead statement.You're framing it as a negative thing and the red pill frames it as positive/neutral thing but you're making the exact same points with the exact same reasoning as they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 06:54 PM |
| 3 | “young attractive women live life on easy mode” - why this is a mislead statement.You said the same thing they say. You probably even explained it a bit better. They say women get given all their value up front at 18 and their challenge is to not fuck it up and lose it by being a hoe and to lock in a man whilst their value is still high. Men don't get any value up front and their challenge is to create and build their value for themselves over the years then lock in a woman once they've built up their value to an adequate amount. Is that not basically the point you're making? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 06:36 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existAnd there are probably 100x more Americans fairly openly and fearlessly using, buying and selling illegal drugs without any repercussions. You probably know a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 04:26 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why is there a "Fear of crime gender paradox"?A slightly more controversial one - society glorifies, validates and praises women who complain about how scared they are of this kind of thing. So women kinda just say it to get that validation and fit in without really meaning it, but then they internalize it. Men would get scorned and ostracized for acting the same way, so they block any little doubts out of their head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 03:46 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existYeah that's basically what I'm advocating for. I'm not saying any dating is bad. I'm saying endless normalized dating of all ages as something to be aspired to is bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existHopefully | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:56 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existThat's good that the divorce rate is down. But I guess it's not that meaningful because people who would have previously got married just aren't getting married, but still operating as a married couple (having children, living together, buying property together etc) and still breaking up, it just doesn't get reflected in the stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:49 PM |
| -1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existAre things going differently for them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:41 PM |
| -2 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existYes that's the idea which sounds great in theory but in reality it ends in divorce, broken families and a generation of men who are miserable because no women will look at them and women who are miserable because no man will take them seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:33 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existI was saying I'm not married but am in a relationship. And yes of course a bad relationships is damaging to children. Depending on how bad it is, it's often a lot less damaging than being abandoned by one of their parents, having their family split up then seeing their parents with new men/women that they're supposed to accept as step parents though. I'd say most divorces are more damaging to the children than their parents staying in that relationship would have been and most of those relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:20 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existI disagree with marrying children. I'm not claiming the society that they exist in is good. I disagree with domestic violence but it's not relevant to the argument because we don't know if Philippines has more or less domestic violence than USA whichever country you're saying is a better society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:14 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existI personally think divorce should be allowed but not glorified, incentivized and normalized like it is in the USA. It should be somewhat shameful and a last resort in extreme cases. USA is too far in one extreme, Philippines is too far in the other extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:10 PM |
| 2 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existnope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 02:06 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existOk well they're not the Filipino population I was referring to. I was wrong. I should have specified "mainstream tax paying Filipino population living in civilized majority Cathlolic settlements under government rule in Luzon and Visayas." If you insist that I must include them in this argument, they are a minority. Exceptions. Exceptions do not disprove rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existWould you make an argument about American dating culture being bad because they have polygamy because the Mormons do it? The Mormons are Americans, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:49 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existMarried, no. Relationship, yes. Correct, sometimes problems can't be fixed. But they can often be tolerated and not damaging to the children. A divorce is going to be very damaging to the children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:40 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existThey are, but not the ones I'm referring to. It's like using something the Mormons do as an example to discredit an argument made about Americans in general. Mormoms are American, but they are not at all representative of American society and not who people are referring to when they talk about "Americans". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:38 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existI'm not saying these communities and societies are not Filipino. I'm saying that I'm not referring to them in this argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Should people just give up and learn to be happy alone?Should we learn to be happy alone? Yes. That will ultimately make us happier not only alone but wit a partner too. Should we just give up? No. We are pair bonding creatures and will never be fully content without an opposite sex partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop jumping through hoops for women and stroking their egos just to get laid and get validation.Yeah tbh I think the big issue is men doing too much on the front end and too little on the backend and women doing too much on the backend and very little on the front end I don't think that's ever going to change though. Unless sex becomes inaccessible through short term relationships. Men want to fuck. Once they've fucked, they don't really care. Women want commitment. Unless they've got that commitment, they don't really care. That's just how we are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:28 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existIt's a deterrent. Drug dealers are not put in jail to punish the 0.01% of the population that are drug dealers. They are put in jail to discourage the other 99.9% of the population from becoming drug dealers. The domestic violence problem is bad but I don't know if it's any worse than countries with different dating cultures so it's not relevant to this discussion. The child marriage thing is apparently in muslim and indigenous communities which I'm not familiar with and am not talking about. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:25 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existYes, the downsides and risks are very obvious and quite extreme. But when you take away the risk, you kinda take away the reward too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:21 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existTrue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:19 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existOk as I suspected, from the second paragraph of the article: "The phenomenon of child marriage has been seen to have been practiced in indigenous and Muslim communities in the country". I'm not really familiar with indigenous and Muslim society and culture in the Philippines but it is quite separated and different from the mainstream society and culture that I am referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:16 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existYes I agree. But homes are less likely to be hostile if both people are 100% committed to the marriage. If either party sees a way out, they will not try to fix the problems and will actively sabotage the marriage when it gets tough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:14 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-exist“They wouldn’t” How do you know? You are not a woman from the Philippines, this is only your opinion and it’s arrogant to assume you know theirs. You asked me so I gave you my answer, ask a Filipina woman if you want her answer. Don't ask me a question (which of course I don't know the answer and will have to make an assumption to answer) then get mad when I answer it. “Woman would rather sleep with guys and not be judged” again another arrogant comment. Have you asked all the American woman? Do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:09 PM |
| -2 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existThe divorce rate in the USA is something like 50%, right? Yes, if divorce was allowed, more people would separate. But they don't, because it's not allowed. And they provide more stable homes and upbringings for the children and a more stable society. That's my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:06 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existBecause those are the extremes. You don't want to end up in that situation so you're more picky about who and when you marry and more careful to not let the marriage get to that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 01:01 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existSecond, of cause it is meaningless when you point out that there are no divorces when there can not be any divorces legally. Ok let's say much less separations. What does say something though is that you have quite the rate of child marriages with 17% I highly doubt the validity of that stat. Or even that it's 1.7%. I have met thousands of Filipinos in all different regions of the country and never encountered anyone under 40 who could have possibly been married under the age of 18. Do you have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:59 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existI agree and I don't think that contradicts my point. Philippines is what was in mind but I think most countries that are largely religious but not that serious about it (apart from Islam), like countries in Latin America, Eastern Europe and Southeast Asia, it applies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:44 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existThank you for realising that perhaps your view is just romanticism My view is not just romanticism. It is correct. I just might not appreciate the gravity of the bad parts of it, seeing as I am not fully part of their culture and can just leave if I want and basically pick and choose the parts of it that I want to get involved in. Whereas a local doesn't have those luxuries. would you now perhaps consider that maybe western woman also know what they are doing? And not assume you know best? perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:39 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-exist- No divorce - downside: women get stuck with abusive, cheating husbands. Upside: those in not ideal but fixable, not majorly traumatizing marriages fix them and don't fuck up their kids over relatively minor things like Westerners do. - No abortion - downside: women getting fucked up back alley illegal abortions. Upside: most kids from young mothers or young couples who probably would get aborted in the West just get sent to the countryside to live with the parents of the mother who are happy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:33 PM |
| -6 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existYes unfortunately 5% of the kids/people in seriously bad marriages are sacrificed to save the kids of the 50% in below average but tolerable/fixable marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:19 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existSo that nobody gets divorced says exactly nothing as divorce is forbidden. It doesn't make it meaningless. Less people separate. There are less broken homes. Children are generally raised in more stable, loving environments. People are more caring of their spouse and their relationship because they know there is no way out. Drugs are seriously illegal in the UAE. The UAE does not have a drug problem. Countries like the USA where drug laws are not enforced have a massive drug problem. Does the fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:16 PM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existWhich country was it? I'm not saying her experience is invalid. I'm just speculating what her experience could have been, because we don't know. And yeah, I do have a romanticized view of it. We generally take the good things from our own culture for granted and just see it as normal then glorify the good things in another culture without realizing the implications of the bad things. There are certainly a lot of quirks and downsides to Philippines relationship culture that I can list too if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Dating vs MarriageYeah, it sucks though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:05 PM |
| 10 | Are young adults infantilized? How does this affect dating?Are young adults infantilized? Yes. How does this affect dating? People generally have a much longer window in which they are "dating", which makes them more jaded, picky, traumatized and intolerant, which means marriages or relationships with kids are more likely to break down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:04 PM |
| -3 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existI wonder if a woman from that country would say the same thing, as a dude, your perspective is always going to be a more positive one They wouldn't. But what people want and what people need are two different things. Women would rather be able to sleep with a load of guys without being judged, be able to get attention from the top guys trying to fuck her because he's not locked down with a wife, but it doesn't fulfill them. Women in the USA are more miserable than ever today. They have everythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 12:01 PM |
| -1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existBut I have lived in a country you would consider male, female healthy dynamics and let me tell you, you are looking at it from a romantic perspective. Woman are considered “lesser” than men. They are regularly beaten, raped and killed to shut them up. I'm guessing this was an Islamic country? Women are not regularly beaten, raped and killed in the Philippines. I work with someone from the Philippines and she hated it there. She says the way people, mainly woman are treated, is inhuman We can't r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:53 AM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existThere's a middle ground. You are describing mainly Islamic countries which are one bad extreme. USA is the opposite bad extreme. There are countries that tolerate but don't respect and glorify dating the kinda have the best of the both worlds without any of the big negatives that you and I have described. Mainly Christian countries where most people are religious but don't take it that seriously. Philippines is where I live and what I was thinking of. I think Latin American and Eastern European … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:39 AM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existWhy would they? Australian men are generally more attractive than Filipino men (richer, taller, more cultured, better dressed, more intelligent, bigger dick etc). That doesn't mean the country's male-female dynamics are better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:35 AM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existWomen aren't second class citizens in the Philippines though. There are more women in managerial positions than men. It is tradition for the men to give women their whole paycheck and the woman controls the finances. Many families have the woman as the breadwinner. Women in Philippine society are genuinely powerful and respected but not in the Western feminist, competing with men kind of way, they are comfortable being women and respected for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:34 AM |
| -8 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existCorrect. It makes people take marriage much more seriously. It sucks for the 5% of people that have truly awful marriages and can't get divorced but for the 50% of people that have slightly below average, annoying but not super damaging marriages, they just push through and fix things and their children are raised in a solid household to be solid people rather than in USA, they'd divorce and fuck their children up. And people are more careful to only get married to someone they genuinely are wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:31 AM |
| 1 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existPhilippines, where I live is the main one I have in mind. I think most poorer Christian countries are kinda similar. Much of Latin America and Eastern Europe. Other Southeast Asian countries like Thailand and Vietnam maybe. Where the government isn't very strong and has no say in people's relationships, religion is very widespread but not that strictly followed. People are shamed for being "not godly" but not to any extreme extent like in Arabic countries or even more strict Christian countries … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:28 AM |
| 0 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existPhilippines, where I live is the main one I have in mind. I think most poorer Christian countries are kinda similar. Much of Latin America and Eastern Europe. Other Southeast Asian countries like Thailand and Vietnam maybe. Where the government isn't very strong and has no say in people's relationships, religion is very widespread but not that strictly followed. People are shamed for being "not godly" but not to any extreme extent like in Arabic countries or even more strict Christian countries … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:27 AM |
| -2 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existYou are talking about the country's economics, not its male-female dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:21 AM |
| 1 | If a man is a late bloomer wouldn’t it be more natural for him to date down in age to where he would be more likely to find someone closer to him experience wise?But women are always making a big deal about a guy's sexual experience and turning down guys if they do not have much experience Are they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Is hookup culture accessible to teetotalers?Yes. Dating apps. Instagram. Going to parties/clubs and not drinking. It is harder though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Have any of the men here just stopped bothering with dating?MOVE to a big city or even another country!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:06 AM |
| -3 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existPeople don't divorce, children are raised in stable homes, women don't complain about there not being enough guys, guys don't complain about there not being enough women, tighter knit societies, not as many crimes, men and women don't hate each other and don't think they are oppressing each other or out to get each other | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:05 AM |
| -4 | The concept of "dating" and having healthy relationships cannot co-existPhilippines, where I live is the main one I have in mind. I think most poorer Christian countries are kinda similar. Much of Latin America and Eastern Europe. Other Southeast Asian countries like Thailand and Vietnam maybe. Where the government isn't very strong and has no say in people's relationships, religion is very widespread but not that strictly followed. People are shamed for being "not godly" but not to any extreme extent like in Arabic countries or even more strict Christian countries … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 11:03 AM |
| 4 | What do you think of the study showing 71% of men have been sexually victimized by a woman?Let's stop using the alarmist terminology and translate that into English. Most men have been pressured to have sex or have had sex whilst drunk. Obviously. Not so shocking now, is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 10:58 AM |
| 5 | CMV: I think most of TRP tenets apply to American women onlyIt applies to women worldwide. It's just that other cultures and religions have harsh punishments and restrictions on the darker sides of female nature whereas American culture promotes and encourages them. Plus, USA is seen as the role model for most countries worldwide. It might take another 10-20 years, but the same things playing out in the USA generally trickle down to other countries too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 10:50 AM |
| 8 | “young attractive women live life on easy mode” - why this is a mislead statement.You have literally just made the same argument that the red pill makes, you're not contradicting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/23 10:47 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenWhat more of value does an 18 year old guy have to offer her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Why do players keep a harem of girls when he could easily get a girl he wants?Men like variety It's essentially unlimited honeymoon phase - they will treat him better than the 1 girl A harem girl can't leave him and really hurt him, she has no leverage over him There's a point of diminishing returns on beauty - being with the 8 or 9 is not necessarily so much more fulfilling than being with the 5 or 6. Men have certain tastes and there's certain attributes that the 6 could have that make her a 6 in the world's eyes, but he's really into and make her basically an 8 in his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 09:43 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain your dating struggles to your parents?If you're serious, send me some pics of yourself and the plastic surgeries you want to get and the approx cost of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 06:52 AM |
| 0 | How do you explain your dating struggles to your parents?Mathematics says that you're probably not that far below average and my experience shows that looks aren't a huge factor in getting girls. And plastic surgery probably isn't even going to fix the things that make the most difference in your physical attractiveness anyway. Unless you have any obvious huge flaws, beauty standards are often built on supply/demand and trends too. Once you travel around the world a bit, you'll see how stupid it all is when one place sees a certain feature as being so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 06:35 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain your dating struggles to your parents?I am almost certain that your dating problems do not stem from lack of plastic surgery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 09:53 AM |
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