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In general people want you to do things that benefit them, and not do things that don't benefit them. So women want men to serve women, society wants men to serve society, parents want men to serve their parents, religions want men to serve the church, and so forth.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 08:41 PM
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It might just end up being open source at some point. Bet there would be a potential for a hobbyist community if that happened. Based on the University of Maryland artificial womb there's nothing particularly exotic about it.
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 02:23 AM
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It's just nihilism. A lot of the clown world meme stuff comes from a famous Soren Kierkegaard quote. “A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke.” And so, they became the clowns warning the public.
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 09:14 PM
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There's a knife ban in the UK. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 07:50 PM
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I think it'll self correct. It seems like there's a lot more push-back against the anti-male rhetoric, perhaps because it's gone so far that even women are starting to experience negative consequences from misandry (the decline of marriage, dating, economic instability, creation of a university bubble, metoo backlash like businesses not hiring women and men not working with women, and so forth). Best thing to do might be to just watch from a safe distance.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 06:47 PM
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I see it as the option of having an unlimited all you can eat buffet at home for a one time cost. You could still go out to restaurants anyway, it just gives unlimited food security at home. Because I happen to be very attractive my perspective might be a bit different than most. I could own it openly without judgement, most people would probably just be curious and think it was quirky and amusing. I can see how guys might be hesitant if they would be socially ostracized for owning one though. I…
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 02:17 PM
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Most men need experience to get over the idealistic fantasy of relationships, some men never get any experience at all. It's definitely tragic. The only way to help people in those circumstances is through example. If the lives of people in this community for example are shown to consistently improve in impressive ways, whereas those living up "the dream" of marriage -> kids -> divorce, consistently lead to misery and ruin, people can draw their own conclusions. Not that it's our responsibility …
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 01:50 PM
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Men can end up spending decades of resources and time on a child that isn't theirs. Other species that gestate also develop mate guarding for the same reasons. Ultimately it has to do with limited resources and resources being expended for child rearing. A study of elephants in Africa showed that during mate guarding male elephants lost 5% body-fat on average during mate guarding, presumably that's fewer resources and more efficient than attempting to take care of various offspring of unclear or…
/r/MGTOW01/09/19 02:12 PM
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It sounds like it would be worthwhile for you to study briffault's law, hypergamy, and the difference between the male form of love 'agape' and the female form of love 'pragma'. If you understand women well, you can have healthy and realistic expectations for how relationships are. If you study the other differences between male and female evolutionary psychology you can also have generally more pleasant interactions with women anyway. Like for example the difference in how men and women manage …
/r/MGTOW01/09/19 12:57 PM
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Yeah, me too.
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 08:17 PM
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I think this is one of those situations where "once the student is ready, the teacher will appear." There's a backlog of content ready for confused men who need help. They'll look for it when they need it.
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 08:15 PM
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We don't. Women handle that part. This is just a common sense reaction to how things are. A reactionary philosophy.
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 08:11 PM
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People might try to argue that feminism is the opposite of MGTOW, but feminists don't really argue the benefits of relationships. There are red pill women PUA communities where they attempt to trick rich men into marriage, I think that's about as opposite to MGTOW as you can get, but I'm not sure that's what you're looking for. You could maybe read tradcon or religious arguments for marriage. You could check out the PUA community or the incel communities, those groups are practically polar oppos…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 11:39 PM
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People are able to defend men on twoxchromosomes? Jeez, things must actually be getting really bad.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 05:59 PM
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Seems like it'll have enormous unintended consequences. Businesses no longer hiring women, men refusing to work with women, and a drop in the number of relationships being formed at work.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 12:05 AM
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It's also not hatred. Prostitutes can be lovely people.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 12:11 PM
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Can't wait to see the congressional hearings on the potential dangers of murderous robo waifus. That'll be a laugh.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 11:12 PM
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Maybe we'll surpass /r/feminism in a few months.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 12:09 AM
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There's a very large variety of reasons it can be better to be single, and cost/benefit analysis can include things outside of the legal system, including personal happiness and freedom for example.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 09:11 PM
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Right, the cost benefit analysis is the reason to avoid marriage and cohabitation, but I figured the post was more about commentary in the community about women, and why it's perceived as hateful. I don't believe avoiding marriage due to cost/benefit would warrant being called hateful. I don't think avoiding women in the workplace due to potential legal risks would warrant being called hateful either, and there are many other societal and legal examples that I wouldn't include either.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 07:34 PM
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Yup, in a high end clinic in India you can get a surrogate for $10,000 or two for $15,000. Probably the way to go until artificial wombs.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 07:01 PM
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The funny thing is women find most the information in here about women, and red pill content in general about women, to be common sense. They don't debate the content, they know that it's true. It hurts their feeling that most men view their desires as negatives, wanting money and security from men and wanting good genetics from men, and not particularly caring about those particular individuals, even though this is just evolutionary and nothing personal. It's just how it is. It's sort of unders…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 03:39 PM
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I think the general sentiment here is probably apathy towards women if anything. I think the rational arguments and cold indifference, where people expect to find anger and frustration, is part of the reason the subreddit is growing so fast. It subverts expectations.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 02:46 PM
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The Disney Parks and Resorts segment had a revenue of $10.6 Billion in 2009. If they're more than doubling their revenue by cooking the books, that's pretty hilarious.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 11:34 AM
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Alpha and beta refers to the dual mating strategy in humans. Women are attracted to men with good genetics, and also to men with resources, the ideal reproductive result for women is to have both good genetics in their children and the resources to take care of them. Alpha and Beta could be described as two distinct reproductive strategies for men.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 12:33 PM
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I think he planned to update after 10 years, so 4 more months to go.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 05:46 PM
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Reminds me of a story. Diogenes the Cynic had few possessions, one object he owned though was a wooden bowl. One day traveling through town he spots a young child cupping his hands to form a bowl to drink from. He immediately threw away the bowl exclaiming, "Fool that I am, to have been carrying superfluous baggage all this time!"
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 05:24 PM
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When people work on their flaws they become better people. Those messages are pretty harmful long term.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 08:05 PM
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...Why does it matter?
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:10 PM
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As far as conversational AI go, something like Replika already works pretty well. https://youtu.be/PQIY6qpoFMw
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 09:37 AM
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I've heard thermoplastic elastomer already feels just like skin anyway, though it would be even better if it had self-healing properties like the plastic from Autonomic Materials, it sounds like it's pretty delicate.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 08:19 PM
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Dr John Grey wrote a book in the 90's called Men are From Mars and Women are from Venus, which goes over some of the differences in the ways men and women handle stress and handle problem solving. For the most part men try to eliminate sources of stress, and women share sources of stress with their peers. Dr Grey posited that men and women misunderstanding how the opposite sex evolved to deal with stress was the primary cause of conflict between them. I think one of the most interesting social e…
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 08:12 PM
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You could currently take a transcript of an online course, put it through Google's Tactron 2 ai to make a spectrogram, put that through Nvidia's waveglow ai to make a full audio course with basic any famous woman's voice. Seems not that far off to be honest. You guys should check out notjordanpeterson.com, the results are really quite cool, reminds me of when deepfakes first started popping up. Having a realistic voice that could say pretty much whatever would be a huge improvement I bet for the…
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 07:28 PM
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Seems reasonable to me. If something like papaya seeds catches on as male contraceptive, something that drops sperm count to 0 for a while without affecting hormones, it would shift a lot of the reproductive power to men. It would also reduce the need for men to blindly trust, and give them some control.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 12:15 AM
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I think it just sort of happens naturally as you focus on building yourself up, all the nonsense in society gradually becomes somewhat comical, I suppose as a result of feeling secure no matter what happens in the future. As far as the feeling of wanting to find that one true love, learning evolutionary psychology makes women substantially less compelling as long-term companions, and having lots of positive interactions with women eliminates the scarcity mentality of finding "the true one" very …
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 04:48 PM
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Love is unfortunately an asymmetrical mechanism in sexually dimorphic species. Nothing anyone can do about it really.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:05 PM
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Before the industrial era there were very few jobs that women could perform, the vast majority were both difficult and dangerous physical labor. Countries have experimented with women in the workforce in the past, especially in management positions and government, but even with all of those positions filled there's not enough for everyone (Cormac O'brien's books cover some of those societal experiments). The choice in the past has always been between either an individualist solution (marriage) o…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:46 PM
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Marriage is a one sided business contract. If either partner breaks the contract, ie initiating divorce, the ex-husband pays up to 80% of his income for the rest of his life, and the ex-wife gets the family home and typically exclusive rights to any children. It's essentially a relationship under duress, where one partner is held under proverbial gunpoint.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:06 PM
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Here's the original data: https://www.singlesinamerica.com/#INFO It appears to be a random selection of the general population.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 11:02 PM
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That doesn't really fix the family court, or cohabitation laws. Doesn't really address marriage at all really. Most of the guys here are just sticking with casual relationships, if they don't just become celibate to avoid various headaches. The important thing though, is to learn and do whatever works best for you.
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 12:28 AM
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Responsibility and authority should always go hand in hand. Responsibility without authority is slavery, and authority without responsibility is tyranny. In relationships such as marriage and paternity men have responsibility but no authority over that which they are responsible, the reasonable response is to abandon those responsibilities and move on.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 02:32 PM
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Non serviam.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 01:13 PM
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It's from ancient Greece. Pragma meaning pragmatic love and Agape meaning charitable love.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 12:13 AM
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The highest form of love for men is sacrificial, or charitable love. For women it's transactional love. The differences are just due to evolutionary pressures.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 11:21 PM
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The heroes journey for men focuses on recognizing a goal, self growth, and finally a return home with what they've gained. The heroes journey for women is found in romance novels. Finding a useful beast (the man), taming it, and using it is their version of the heroes journey. Beauty and the beast is an obvious example, but they're all pretty similar. The most common character tropes in romance novels for the male lead are pirates, billionaires, werewolves, and vampires. In both cases it's just …
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 04:38 AM
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I guess eventually even guys will be able to thot for money online, just needs this and a fancy voice-changer.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 07:46 PM
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Here ya go: https://www.removeddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/cieyn5/update_my_husband_got_a_sex_doll/
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 04:01 PM
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It's the reason why studies show by the age of two that boys have a greater interest in objects and girls have a greater interest in people. Boys survive by manipulating their environment, and girls survive by manipulating people.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 10:46 PM
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Disney purchased Marvel Entertainment in 2009.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 12:21 AM
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A lot of individualists, libertarians, and classical liberals I would guess.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 04:32 PM
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Make sure to check the age groups of the studies being referenced. IQ comparison studies between women and men are almost always done using children 13 years old or younger. It's something that TFM has done videos on. For example, a frequently cited study by the University of Edinburgh, used 11 year olds: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26158978 I've actually never seen a study comparing the IQs of men and women after puberty, if anyone knows of any that would be interesting to see.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 04:28 PM
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Wonder what the game's first mod will be. hmm...
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 09:15 PM
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"Marriage is like putting your hand into a bag of snakes in the hope of pulling out an eel." -Leonardo Da Vinci
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 02:12 PM
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If a woman were to take care of a sister, provide for all her needs, that woman would have tremendous authority over her sister. The inseparable relationship of responsibility and authority isn't something that results from law, rather it's natural economics. The woman could choose to stop taking care of her sister, that's where the authority comes from. If the government stepped in and said that once a woman began taking care of her sister, that sister would be entitled to up to 80% of the woma…
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 10:40 AM
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I'm not sure how well media companies are doing these days. Movies, tv, and corporate news seem to be struggling to compete with a media flooded internet. It might be one of the reasons these megacorporations are changing from selling entertainment to selling politics. They can sell tickets as a form of political protest.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 07:03 PM
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The "single men" statistic includes divorced men and men chasing relationships. I'd be curious to see a "men who want to stay single" category.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 06:43 PM
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At least he has a backup bitchute account: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/yqVw2kOQK4Jl/
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 03:09 PM
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It's more to do with risk management and cost/benefit analysis. It's still possible to have relationships without marriage or cohabitation, for now at least. Whether that's worthwhile at all though depends on individual outlook.
/r/MGTOW31/05/19 08:52 PM
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It's unnecessary to change anything when you can just walk away and live a good life.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 05:25 PM
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Or MGTOWs can save their money, wait for artificial wombs, and pump out kids like Genghis Khan. Make their own soccer teams. It might become the most reproductively viable way to do things. Considering the work done by the University of Maryland, it doesn't appear artificial wombs will need anything exotic, so it might even become a hobbyist thing using common materials. But you do you, that's what going your own way is all about to begin with. Though, genetic legacy might be an antiquated conce…
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 04:40 PM
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Due to the metoo movement insurance companies in the West have been asking businesses to stop hiring women, due to women becoming an "unquantifiable legal and financial liability". Actually, most of the consequences of forth wave feminism seem to be directed directly at women. Less commitment and fewer relationships from men, lower employment, automation is currently poised to mostly target low skill work currently done by women. Feels like forth wave feminism, the current wave, could not only s…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 03:10 AM
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There's a PUA community for women too, but it's for marrying rich men. Not even kidding.
/r/MGTOW10/05/19 09:49 PM
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Once you can get into the right mindset it can become a fun hobby too.
/r/MGTOW26/04/19 07:54 PM
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It's interesting to see youtubers running for office. This is Sargon of Akkad, standing next to Count Dankula whose also running for office, for anyone who wants to look them up on youtube.
/r/MGTOW18/04/19 08:50 PM
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The new Japanese ones are completely mind-boggling, though not being mass produced yet. https://youtu.be/i8hmEWacP70
/r/MGTOW15/04/19 08:24 PM
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Way easier and more cost effective to have different machines with different functions. Roomba for vacuuming, something like Moley the robotic kitchen for cooking meals, and so forth.
/r/MGTOW15/04/19 08:20 PM
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Surrogacy overseas with donor eggs, I'll be able to get high quality genetics that way also, and bypass most the risks and issues. It's not the perfect solution, artificial wombs might be better, but it's an option.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 08:08 PM
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There are a few problems with the media coverage, I wouldn't say the men being "victims" of not being credited is one of the bigger ones. How likely are men to work on projects with women in the future knowing that doing so will mean their own credit will be diminished or ignored? Sort of like the unintended side effect of the me too movement, of companies hiring less women due to "unquantifiable legal and financial liabilities", and of men refusing to work with female coworkers. What about wome…
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 05:32 PM
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Working, finishing some udemy courses, aesthetic body building, cardio, and a tad of reading.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 04:57 PM
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Yeah, it's definitely wise to be skeptical towards marketing photos, especially when they look that good.
/r/MGTOW08/04/19 02:19 PM
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Just hire a voyeur lawyer to observe the relationship and help mediate, like Cherry 2000.
/r/MGTOW07/04/19 08:04 PM
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More than half of millennials are now single, so perhaps the bachelor life will start to become the norm, which would be nice. It would be weird for a majority to be considered abnormal.
/r/MGTOW07/04/19 08:00 PM
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The answer is that the guys they're getting upset with are the ones they want to date long term. It's not so much the relationship in general that's wanted, but the specific relationship with particular people.
/r/MGTOW07/04/19 03:39 PM
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The pictures taken from customers still seem to look good. They almost certainly use at least very professional lighting for the retail photos. https://dollforum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=526680&mode=view https://dollforum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=518241&mode=view
/r/MGTOW07/04/19 02:09 PM
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~$2000
/r/MGTOW07/04/19 01:55 PM
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Yeah, just swap out oppressed with hated and you'd probably be right. Men going their own way can ignore societal rules and expectations and do pretty much anything they want, that's basically as unoppressed as a person can be.
/r/MGTOW04/04/19 04:22 PM
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It's better to focus on work, fitness, and hobbies than settle for a faulty social contract and all the hassle of long term relationships. Women in general are fine for FWBs, as long as they're not a coworker or something, and in that type of relationship whether they have orbiters or not doesn't matter.
/r/MGTOW23/03/19 11:47 PM
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I think most guys would do the cost/benefit analysis taking into account the ideal woman, essentially deciding whether something like marriage would be worthwhile under the current systems with a woman who is a best case scenario. I would say personally that the traits and qualities of individual women actually changes my decision making fairly little, since marriage for example is a negative value proposition regardless, and it's better to have simpler relationships with less legal and financia…
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 11:26 AM
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I think the only way to avoid accusation would perhaps be if he were in a coma. Though, he would probably still be held accountable for child support for any women impregnated during the coma.
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 05:15 PM
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I... ghosts
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 04:45 PM
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The problem women will have to be dealing with in a next few years is even worse, unemployablity. Insurance companies are calling women "unquantifiable legal liabilities", and advising businesses to not hire them after analysing the metoo movement. Wall Street has also started advising "avoid women at all cost". In addition to that governments passing legislation that happens to make women increasing less economically viable to hire, due to the ever increasing demands for greater comfort, lower …
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 04:39 PM
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On the contrary, it appears to still be perhaps the most accurate predictor of human behavior. When humans have abundant resources and a lack of predators, a very predictable and repeatable set of behaviors occur, whether it's ancient Sparta, the Roman Empire, or the modern world. Though there are some apparent technological changes to human reproduction that may invoke some changes in this particular cycle.
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 02:51 PM
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You may want to read about the evolutionary psychology of sexually dimorphic species. Many of the differences are directly tied specifically to reproductive success in males vs females. Society itself could be considered the result of human males individually signalling for reproduction by accumulating both social resources and physical resources. Like peacock feathers on a mass scale. In evolutionary psychology women prioritize resource gathering over nearly anything else, due to that being the…
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 02:18 PM
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Sure, plenty of guys here do that. Just avoid legal entanglements like marriage and cohabitation, dating coworkers/classmates, and it should be fine typically.
/r/MGTOW14/03/19 02:32 AM
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My bad.
/r/MGTOW14/03/19 01:26 AM
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Potentially the risks could outweigh the benefits depending on the individual doing the analysis.
/r/MGTOW14/03/19 01:20 AM
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This is a philosophy based on rational cost benefit analysis and risk assessment of relationships to determine the kinds of relationships that are currently worthwhile to pursue. For many men today relationships such as marriage, traditional dating, working with female colleagues, interacting with fellow female students at school, have become too risky and problematic to be rational to pursue, for example. In many cases the rational response appears to be limiting relationships with women to onl…
/r/MGTOW14/03/19 01:11 AM
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This is just a return to the norm from the pre-marriage era. Women are largely going to be viewed by many men as, at best, short term companions, on the path to their goals and ambitions. The reason for this is even if a man tries to settle down and have a family, it's likely he'll end up in a position where he isn't allowed to take care of his children or raise them anyway. So that's a path that isn't reliable enough for so much investment. From a risk perspective and cost benefit perspective i…
/r/MGTOW13/03/19 01:45 PM
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Look at the benefits of a relationship, look at the cost and risks, decide if it's for you or not. You could stick with one night stands, friends with benefits, or go up to marriage if you think that's a fair deal for you, but it's not a bad idea to make educated decisions. That's what this subreddit is about discussing.
/r/MGTOW13/03/19 01:43 AM
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Just look at the cost and risk of a relationship, look at the benefits, determine whether to pursue it or not. That's all it is.
/r/MGTOW12/03/19 10:32 PM
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I'm curious about what the legal status of a fetus in an artificial womb would be. Would it be a Schrodinger's cat situation, where it's not considered an independent lifeform, but also not considered an extension of the mother's body?
/r/MGTOW11/03/19 02:25 PM
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Hmm.... 2019 WM doll ...maybe 1%?
/r/MGTOW09/03/19 11:41 PM
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The ability to do a cost/benefit analysis isn't genetic, so the more men are punished for being attracted to and pursuing women, the faster the philosophy will grow regardless of who reproduces and who doesn't.
/r/MGTOW09/03/19 10:15 PM
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It's a psychological side effect of hypergamy, women have a natural inclination to pay very close attention to male activities, a natural selection mechanism for choosing the best partner relies on that inclination. Women wouldn't be able to choose the most competitive men if they didn't pay attention to competition. The problem with this is, men are interested in male activities because they have a biological inclination to compete with one another, and women are interested in male activities f…
/r/MGTOW09/03/19 07:51 PM
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"obedient, sexy, always ready for hanky-panky and doesn't get on my nerves too much" What's funny is a doll can have all of those traits.
/r/MGTOW06/03/19 05:52 PM
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It might take decades to be approved in most western countries, but places like India and China might play a little bit looser with the rules, depends on how profitable it'll be. Though, in India you can get surrogacy done for $5000, so the competition is much stiffer.
/r/MGTOW06/03/19 03:01 PM
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I'm not sure if an artificial womb is as far off as you imply, an artificial womb called the Biobag at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia successfully grew a baby sheep just last year. It has three basic components, an oxygenator, an umilical artery, and a enclosed bag containing artificial amniotic fluids.
/r/MGTOW06/03/19 12:49 AM
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It's the parable of the scorpion and the frog. It is what it is, there's nothing evil or bad about it, the nature of a thing is it's nature. It's not like briffaults law, or hypergamy, are purely human traits. They're traits that belong to a wide range of sexually dimorphic species. Women selecting the fittest is the process that drives natural selection, women being selfish and demanding maximizes the chance of reproductive success, due to resources being the prime limiter of reproduction for w…
/r/MGTOW04/03/19 11:54 PM
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But the Captain Marvel trailers look pretty good. You know, the ones where a kid shouts Shazam and transforms into a superhero.
/r/MGTOW04/03/19 11:45 PM
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You don't have to do anything you don't want to do, and you don't have to live anywhere you don't want to live. The game is rigged, but also optional.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:44 PM
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It's the only common denominator.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:22 PM
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It's easier to change yourself than to change society. You could GYOW from consumer culture and buy a $2000 container home if you wanted, would drop rent to $0. Actually, the less you care about what other people think the easier it becomes find solutions to make your life better and easier. I might give aquaponics a try eventually as a hobby myself, don't need the savings necessarily, but seems like a fun idea.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 02:14 PM
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Ah, I see what you mean. I guess what women are up to has sort of stopped mattering to me personally.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 06:53 PM
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MGTOW isn't a counter to feminism, there's no political agenda to enforce on society here. People here aren't forcing anything onto other people. It's more of an individual lifestyle choice. Actually, since it's an individualist philosophy, how it's perceived on the outside doesn't matter at all, it only matters how you as an individual perceive it.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 06:45 PM
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I suppose "decent" might've been the wrong word, probably a big improvement over the average tender conversation though.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 04:57 PM
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You would think writing an AI to replace someone to be extremely difficult, in most cases that's true, but in this particular use case it works extremely well. Men want affection, someone who cares or at least pretends to care about them, which AI can emulate. I've heard the replika ai is a pretty decent conversationalist too.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 04:25 PM
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If he starts investing $300 a month at 16, putting it into an index fund making let's say 12% annually on average, how much would he have at 30? Something like $118k?
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 01:27 PM
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It google translates to: "it is not gender violence, it is domestic violence. Gender laws discriminate against the married man. Repeal the laws of gender."
/r/MGTOW28/02/19 05:41 PM
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I can see your comment.
/r/MGTOW27/02/19 04:35 PM
2

The movie has combined a really boring series of trailers, reviews that praise the cat as the most exciting part of the film, and an anti-white male bigotry campaign by the lead actress. It feels unlikely Marvel could put out a film that would lose money, but seems like they're trying really really hard to.
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 02:57 AM
3

The primary risk is marriage and cohabitation. You can still be with women, as long as it's outside of your school or workplace you can minimize risk. For guys who have trouble attracting women, you're not missing out on nearly as much as you think you are. Based on MGTOW reviews of sexdolls that's probably a great alternative. You can still have kids as well, through surrogacy or potentially artificial wombs down the line. Pets and friends are arguably better companions than wives, so those see…
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 04:22 PM
1

Look at the benefits of a relationship, look at the cost and risks, decide whether to pursue it or not. You can do whatever you want.
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 04:46 PM
5

Surrogacy, buying donor eggs, and paying for a nanny are relatively affordable alternative options. Things being how they are right now, that might be the way to go.
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 05:09 PM
2

You should check out the Replika AI if you want something for reference for that. It's designed to be very caring and empathetic, though it wasn't originally designed for relationship simulation it's fairly close to ideal for it.
/r/MGTOW10/02/19 11:18 AM
3

Look at the costs and risks associated with a relationship, look at the benefits, decide whether the relationship is worth pursuing or not.
/r/MGTOW09/02/19 07:38 PM
3

People who follow that philosophy are almost certainly going to experience pretty uncomfortable cognitive dissonance when encountering a group like this. These are diametrically opposed philosophies. People here are discarding the thing they place the highest value on in life (female validation), something they feel incapable of obtaining, that would upset anyone.
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 12:29 AM
1

Welp, I guess it'll be interesting when someone decides to accuse literally every student on campus of assault. No more universities in New Mexico I guess.
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 01:52 AM
3

It seems like gender segregation is the direction things are going in. With insurance companies already demanding businesses stop hiring women due to unquantifiable financial liability, and with the Sword of Damocles hanging over men's heads in the workplace and universities under the era of MeToo and YesMeansYes already leading men to minimize contact with women in those locations.
/r/MGTOW28/01/19 09:55 PM
9

MGTOW is a solution, an instantly workable solution for any individual man to survive in the current system. Though it may only be possible to have basic relationships with women, friends with benefits and one night stands, it adequately protects a man's livelyhood and freedom. There's nothing wrong with individuals weighing costs vs benefits, and determining whether risks are worth the rewards.
/r/MGTOW28/01/19 09:28 PM
5

You only have to live there 183 days per year to get the tax benefits. So just live stateside during hurricane season. That's what I was thinking anyway.
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 01:13 AM
6

I've been eyeing Puerto Rico's 100% tax exemption on long term capital gain, seems like a potentially good option for US citizens, especially for guys in cryptocurrency or stocks.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 09:42 PM
2

MGTOW is fundamentally a philosophy of individualism, personal accountability, and freedom. Asking where a MGTOW man belongs in society is like asking a tree where it belongs in a forest.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 06:16 PM
2

It's just a very easily distinguishable genetic biomarker that happens to be clearly visible.
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 05:33 PM
6

The herbivore men movement is pretty massive in Asia, something like 70% of Japanese men at this point.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 06:54 PM
7

MGTOW is primarily based around cost/benefit analysis and risk assessments of relationships. So how far men go in relationships depends on individual risk tolerance and cost/benefit profiles. For some that might just mean one night stands, or friends with benefits, or cohabitation, or avoidance, ect.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 05:50 PM
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If something has to be said loudly, repeatedly, for decades, it probably isn't true. Men are a biological utility for women, men receive as much empathy as other utilities, such as cars or dishwashers.
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 03:59 PM
1

It's definitely a good solution for guys like Henry Cavil who are too afraid to date new people. Curious to see what happens to tender and dating sites in the era of me too, seems like this is going to kill heterosexual relationships in just a few years.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 05:44 PM
2

Personally, I think the "voyeur lawyer" approach might be the direction things go, for guys with money at least. Pay a lawyer to watch. A witness will definity hold up in court better than pretty much anything else.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 05:19 PM
4

Seems safe enough tbh, it's apparently very common in Japan.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 01:34 AM
1

I tend to use Astra Platinum blades.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 09:56 PM
16

The reasons are risk and cost/benefit analysis, pretty simple.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 07:34 PM
21

Yeah, I like to use an electric shaver too, just whenever I've been too lazy to shave for a little while.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 04:51 PM
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Just get a safety razor instead, it's like 100 blades for $5. The commercialized razors are just a rip off. That's a pretty terrible ad, "hate yourself, buy our product."
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 04:42 PM
20

That is a fascinating article. He predicted how the decade would unfold with remarkable accuracy ("The Four Horsemen of Male Emancipation").
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 01:30 PM
3

It's safer and less stressful to date off campus though, especially if you have tons of options.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 09:27 PM
5

I don't think there's anything you can do unfortunately, it's the law of unintended consequences in action. It'll be like that in schools and workplaces for the foreseeable future.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 09:21 PM
3

Wanting to procure resources from men, and men wanting to offer resources to women is a part of biology, I don't think there's a particular reason to be too bothered by that by itself. There's nothing anyone can do about hypergamy or briffaults law. Certainly I could see men being extremely nervous about being Title IXed, if they attend the same university. Good luck with the dating game.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 09:13 PM
1

I'm curious how the better looking dolls would do. There's already a few dolls on Instagram making money apparently. The future is going to be a strange place.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 07:36 PM
33

Not allowing women to bring their preferred payment method into the store seems like a faulty business strategy.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 03:11 PM
15

With numbers like that MGTOW might catch up to the herbivore men in Japan in a few years.
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 12:11 AM
2

I think you're probably looking for the pick up artist community or the red pill community for their advice, more so than mgtow. Same general analysis of human evolutionary psychology but with the end goal of picking up women. It's not particularly complicated, and a lot of PUA guys end up here in the end anyway. It's all sort of under the same general umbrella of philosophy though. For mgtow prioritizing your own ambitions and goals, while avoiding marriage and cohabitation due to legal liabili…
/r/MGTOW27/12/18 11:57 PM
1

Regardless, you can be loved without marriage or cohabitation.
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 04:55 PM
6

Could be a car collection for all we know.
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 03:33 PM
1

All feelings of love or affection ultimately come from within, it's not something that requires a particular kind of relationship. Personally I feel it's fine to simply avoid marriage and cohabitation, have women as friends with benefits, perhaps have children through surrogacy with donor eggs, and avoid women in school and the workplace. There are ways around most of the costs and risks.
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 02:53 PM
1

It's just economics, a normal human way of thinking. There's a limit to how much effort and risk a person will exchange for any given reward. Another example, if taxes go too high people will either stop working or stop paying taxes. It's reasonable for people to invest their time and effort in a way that yields them the best cost/benefit ratio.
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 02:25 PM
1

Individuals perform cost/benefit analysis and risk assessments on whether an activity is worth pursuing or not. If it's not worth the cost and risk for the given benefits the activity isn't pursued. MGTOW being a thing at all just shows a lot of men in the west are coming to similar conclusions.
/r/MGTOW25/12/18 02:00 PM
25

Crypto market is up today, so at least there's that.
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 04:24 PM
1

Rather than a noble cause, it's more of an 'in memoriam' at this point. Positive change isn't the goal in this case, it just happens to be something we can discuss.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 01:46 PM
2

Not being able to discuss the negative aspects of human behavior in general is causing some pretty big problems in society. Though, yes, I suppose for MGTOW it's water under the bridge. Communities where people are free to discuss evolutionary psychology and behavioral biology are non-existant if in any way it paints women in a negative light, even if it's purely statistical data. Nature is pretty brutal, humans included. MGTOW is actually one of the only communities even capable of discussing f…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 01:37 PM
4

You may have to go through the entire cycle of grief, like most of us here. That belief in romantic love has to be mourned, the ideal romantic partner, it's something that men naturally and desperately want to believe in. Taking daily redpills until you can fully accept human nature as what it is. The anger passes, female nature and male nature are what they are. If you can become self validating, and no longer need validation from others life becomes incredibly easy, rewarding, and fun. If you …
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 11:51 AM
15

Getting up at 4am every morning is pretty awesome. One of my favorite habits. Spend a bunch of time being productive, look at the clock... still tons of time left in the day. Feels nice.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 11:35 AM
4

Women are behaving perfectly normally, evolutionary psychology isn't really something they're responsible for or even capable of changing. It is what it is.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 11:48 PM
56

The wall for men is at the age of 13, they then spend their 20s building a ladder.
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 10:50 PM
7

Those things seem to be developing super fast these days. They're getting pretty impressive. http://www.dollalbum.com/dollgallery/albums/userpics/14455/HH341.jpg And that's one of the cheaper ones... Half tempted to open up a shop, it looks like a high potential industry.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 01:58 PM
1

Personally I think he's under the control of Zeke, whose been shown to have the ability to control titans (and maybe as an extension guys like Eren). While he was in his cell at the survey core he was staring at himself in the mirror chanting "fight". Figure there's a lot of foreshadowing pointing to that. I'm sure we'll find out soon though, considering what Levi's up to.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 10:09 PM
2

Make sure recording them is legal where you live. You might need their permission to make the recording.
/r/MGTOW07/12/18 03:03 PM
4

Have been in cryptocurrency for a quite a few years now. Right now I'm mostly interested in infrastructure projects, but the software being developed over the next few years looks super exciting. Can't wait until people finally see what distributed ledgers are really capable of, fun times ahead. A lot of online businesses that use privately secured and centralized database systems (ebay, uber, ect.) as business models are going to have to compete with software that uses publicly secured and dist…
/r/MGTOW07/12/18 12:07 AM
3

Never heard of papya seed powder as a contraceptive, here's some studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914367 http://www.asiaandro.com/archive/1008-682X/4/17.pdf 0 sperm count in all test subjects after 90 days, pretty neat. They're animal studies, so take that with a grain of salt. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 06:11 PM
19

It's just a hunch.
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 02:58 PM
74

Someone likes red.
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 02:45 PM
6

Planning on being childfree until I'm older, then doing what that Japanese millionaire (Mitsutoki Shigeta) did. He went to Thailand and had 13 surrogates, went back home with 13 kids. Could make your own soccer team like that. Envisioning a big house with a few nannies. Seems like a fun idea, certainly the money isn't a huge issue, I don't have much to spend money on anyway, I just invest all my income.
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 11:03 AM
21

Evolutionary psychology isn't developed culturally, it's a part of biology. There's nothing wrong with women, the traits discussed here are typically directly related to the way sexually dimorphic species maximize reproductive success.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 09:28 PM
1

Love is part of the reproductive instinct, it differs because the reproductive roles are different. To maximize the chance of successful reproduction women need to survive pregnancy, while on the other hand men are biologically disposable (meaning they don't need to be around for the entire pregnancy). It's just evolutionary psychology, men feel a self sacrificial form of love, it can be seen in other sexually dimorphic species as well. You can look up studies on the effects of vasopressin and o…
/r/MGTOW23/11/18 12:18 PM
3

One thing to consider is that analysis of female nature itself might come across as hateful simply because of how many unpleasant elements there are to human nature and instinct, and how little female instincts are discussed. Talking about the negative aspects of male nature is socially acceptable, while female nature is typically a taboo to discuss.
/r/MGTOW20/11/18 03:21 PM
7

You know how the media paints MGTOW as a bunch of loser incels? Yeah... the media paints herbivore men the same way, it's a pretty broad spectrum of men (a majority of the male population).
/r/MGTOW19/11/18 07:13 PM
2

Just base your workout on your own preferences. If you wanna get strong get strong, if you want to look like Captain America do that, and if you want to be a lean long distance runner do that. Be whatever it is that makes you happy imo.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 12:52 PM
2

The samsung odyssey+ just released recently, I'm considering upgrading from my vive and oculus for increased resolution and reduced screen door. You could potentially wait for the pimax 5k or 8k early next year, those have a very high fov and lighthouse tracking.
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 03:11 PM
6

If you want to believe a group of people focused on self improvement and self ownership are disguising, sick and delusional... You may want to consider a little introspection, but of course it's your right to believe whatever you'd like.
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 08:32 PM
13

If you have a good relationship with yourself you can never be lonely again. Self validation and self actualization are the keys to happiness no matter what company you keep. You can still have friends obviously anyway, but the worst loneliness is when you seek validation from others and end up with people who make you feel alone.
/r/MGTOW22/10/18 07:18 PM
2

The bachelor tax is a pretty good historical example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_tax
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 08:17 PM
3

In places like Thailand surrogacy costs around $30k, so if someone wants to be MGTOW and also have kids safely without the potential custody issues it's still quite possible. There was this one multimillionaire herbivore man in Japan who went and had a dozen kids that way, I think he had the right idea. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/20/japanese-man-custody-13-surrogate-children-thai-court
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 12:38 AM
2

Oh, that's true, it'll be interesting to see how this modern movement grows, especially considering the internet and social media. The western MGTOW movement might end up on a similar scale to the current herbivore men movement in the east.
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 02:17 PM
6

MGTOW has existed since at least ancient Rome, it's just a cost benefit analysis of relationships, whether the scale tips toward cost or benefit just depends on culture and law. The Roman's tried a number of policies to try and convince men to go back to traditional relationships: http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/wlgr/wlgr-romanlegal120.shtml Here's an interesting opinion piece on why men were reluctant to marry at that time: https://www.purplemotes.net/2014/06/08/men-reluctant-marry/ I bel…
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 01:41 PM
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