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> Arrange marriages have higher success rates then non-arrange marries. Heck most of our parents didn't date 5 years before getting married. If we want a society that encourages marriages then we don't need to stop encouraging people to date for LONG periods of time. If you aren't in love with the person after 6 months THEY AREN'T THE ONES. Your parents got married in another century. The world is a different (and in my view, better) place now. Here are a few other things to remember about tradi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 12:20 AM
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Someone sound upset that someone else's life isn't as miserable as theirs. You could go outside and get yourself a life slightly less miserable, but no, this is reddit. You'll probably just sit there and keep spewing the same crap over and over again. Oh well, have at it. Your meltdowns are quite entertaining I'm sure.
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 03:46 AM
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Collapse isn't happening. Modern society is the best we've ever lived in. People live longer than ever before. People have more freedom and more wealth than every before. People have more opportunities for advancement than ever before. Granted, it's not perfect, and there are probably some individual things that have declined, but the overall direction is a dramatic upward spiral. The only people complaining are a bunch of entitled cucks who are upset that they might have to do some work to earn…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 10:11 PM
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You're overlooking one thing. Change, and particularly technological change is determined by people's feelings rather than any rational need to solve a problem. Just look at all the technological changes over the last 50 years for example. We flew to the moon in 1969. It probably wasn't entirely illogical to believe that 50 years on from that moment, people would be able to travel to work in flying cars. Instead we have... Twitter. The last three major technological changes that seriously impact…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 10:06 PM
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Then perhaps you should have said that in your post.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 07:12 AM
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LOL, this is just some drunken idiot lobbyist pulling shit out of his ass.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 07:00 AM
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You're talking about crap you saw spewed out on youtube because some drunken rambling lunatic pulled some numbers out of his ass to support some weird conspiracy theory. And yes, I've seen it all before. It was BS before and it's BS now, unless you have some way to prove that it's somehow different this time, which I doubt very much. And what "Chances" are going on in your society exactly? Are you talking about the word "Chance" as used in the context of an opportunity? Or perhaps people engagin…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 06:59 AM
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Why don't you read it or watch it? Because, as I said before, I've ALREADY SEEN IT. It's been around with various nut jobs forever. It was BS the first time, and it's BS now. Watching it again doesn't suddenly make it true, especially when a five minute walk outside will show what BS it really is. The only difference is that with youtube, the village idiots from the various villages can now find each other. You're really no different from that insane, rambling drunken uncle that the rest of the …
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 06:46 AM
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LOL... If only you knew how many people had used the "in the future you will regret it" line when complaining about my lifestyle choices.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 06:41 AM
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easier to right someone off as a nut then listen to what they have to say That would be "write" someone off as a nut, but then, I guess watching insane conspiracy videos on youtube doesn't leave a lot of time for spelling and grammar classes, no? Either way, I've heard all this alt-right/white supremacist BS before. A trip outside to see how FUCKING AWESOME life is proves that it's either a) complete bullshit; or b) not really a problem anyway. My life is better without offspring, and the fact t…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 06:09 AM
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The real solution is to begin with an end in mind. I've been caught up in a lot of "self improvement" bullshit myself in the past, thinking that if I just overload on It and become a self-improvement "junky", then life must magically get better. It doesn't work that way. Self-improvement can work if there is a specific goal you are chasing with a measurable outcome. Maybe you want to get a job paying $X a year. Maybe you want to run 5 miles in 25 minutes, get below 15% body fat or whatever. You …
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 05:56 AM
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Dude, you need to take a break from the conspiracy nut jobs on youtube and go outside for a while. Right now is the best time in human history to have been alive - unless you liked it better when we had a life expectancy of 30 years, with arranged marriages and no mobility for freedom at all. This "problem" of which you speak doesn't exist outside a few insane youtube rants, and even if it is real, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. Get out and live for a while.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 05:32 AM
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Has western civilisation fell that much men don't want to breed? Nope. Western Civilisation is the best it's ever been. We have higher life expectancies than ever before. We have more freedom than ever before (panic about a cold notwithstanding), and we have more wealth than ever before. Sex can be had at a moment's notice if that's important to you, and it's just as easy to detach when you're not in the mood. In fact, I love living in modern Western Society so much, I can't think of putting the…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 04:29 AM
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You don't think you will regret not having a family? Nope. I'm 43 years old, and the decision I made 35 years ago just gets better and better. Or being on your death bed alone in a ward alone? What makes you think you won't be alone anyway? Just supposing for a minute that you do turn out to be the greatest husband/parent that ever lived. Don't you think your kids will have lives of their own, bills to pay, families to support by that time? And what if you simply outlive your wife? Honestly, if …
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 04:18 AM
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Only if it's the woman being monogamous. TRP describes itself as "sexual stategy", which I take to mean a poor imitation of Pick Up.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/20 08:54 AM
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Well of course they did! Didn't you read your red pill history books? It was actually an ancient form of Coronoavirus that infected all the men in Rome and turned them into pussies. It was carried by women and as well all know, all women only pursue the top 3.1415927% of men because... you know, Chads and all that. Anyway, women were banging these guys and turning them into pussies, and not only were they weakening the strongest men in the Roman Empire, but since they refused to date any men out…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/20 04:04 AM
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Sadly, most of today's MGTOW "men" are just soy boys who are little different from Incels. It's one thing if a guy has a bad experience in relationships and decides to live his own life. It's one thing if a guy is happier alone than he would be in a marriage. These are things I can respect. But if you visit any MGTOW sub or forum, the content will be 90% complaining about women, or about how feminism has ruined their lives by giving women the option of marrying some other dude. I would have thou…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/20 03:48 AM
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I'm guessing it's the fact that he talks about marriage and monogamy as virtues, which is something that red pillars don't necessarily agree with.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/20 03:34 AM
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Is that really the best you've got?
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 02:55 AM
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LOL. Is that the best you've got?
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 02:53 AM
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I was always under the impression (largely from things I've read about MGTOW over the last decade and a bit) is that it's a lifestyle rather than a movement. In other words, it's not about people reacting to Feminism (which I am totally in favour of for reasons I mentioned in another post), it's not a reaction to Modern Society (which I think is the best one we've ever lived in), it's simply a way of living that is supposed to make men happier than they would otherwise have been. So when I see p…
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 02:50 AM
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Are you replying to my post, or something else you read online? I never even mentioned the "history" of MGTOW, and honestly, I couldn't care less. The simple fact is, you're either Going Your Own Way or you're not. If you feel you are at the mercy of feminism or women or anything else, then you are not going your own way. End of discussion.
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 02:38 AM
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That's certainly a big part of it. I grew up before there was an Internet, at a time when people connected face to face. In those days, if you wanted a girlfriend, you had to go and talk to her. Sure, maybe you got shot down the first time, so you learned from that, refined your approach and tried again. That was how we evolved and grew as people for two million years. Today nobody needs to do that. Today if you fail at something... at anything, there are a whole heap of people online to tell yo…
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 02:34 AM
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Please don't take this the wrong way because I sincerely appreciate the effort you put in to removing those posts, but I honestly think you're fighting a losing battle. I seriously think you'd be better off starting a new sub called "Independent Male Life" or something along those lines, and removing MGTOW from the moniker completely. MGTOW has changed over the years. I first heard of it back in 2008 (having already been living the life for decades). Back then it was different. Men back in those…
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 12:52 AM
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Well if it's that important to you, there's nothing stopping you from writing such a piece.
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 12:40 AM
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Ummm.... it's called Men Going Their Own Way, not Men Reacting To Feminism. By the way, I'm not anti-feminism at all. I think Feminism has been a great emancipator FOR MEN. I personally have more freedom, more wealth, better health and a longer life expectancy than any of my male ancestors, largely because I don't have the pressure to get married and start a family that they did, and that's largely a result of the impact of feminism. And "Society's exceptions" is not a way to avoid stating the p…
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 12:26 AM
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You and I seem to have different ideas of what MGTOW is or should be. To me, a Man Going His Own Way is a man living life on his terms, doing whatever the fuck he wants and not caring about society's expectations. If he finds a relationship rewarding he should have one, but do so on his own terms. That means it could be marriage, it could be a friend with benefits, or it could be pump and dump, but it must be what HE wants on his own terms. To me it is EXACTLY.the men who live alone because livi…
/r/MGTOW208/02/20 06:34 PM
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While you're deleting dating apps and the like, you might also want to take a break from reddit and Any other form of social media, along with mainstream news for a while. I'm serious about this. It sounds like you've filled your head with a lot of negativity and it's not helping you be any happier. Go and find yourself some hobby to pursue, whether it's hiking in nature, playing the guitar or whatever. Just something you can totally dedicate yourself to for long enough to actually get good at i…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/20 07:38 AM
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The answer is: It depends. If someone wanted to date me, it would depend on which debts she had. Buying a major asset like a home, or investing in an education is a good thing. Huge credit card debt is an instant deal breaker. I've had credit card debts in the past (I paid them all off), and I've seen first hand how much it can inhibit one's lifestyle. I don't ever want to have my life cramped in that way again. Personally I'm not a fan of tattoos and never have been. I don't think they look par…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/20 07:29 AM
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I know one who is now 37. I'm not kidding. I wanted to date her a few years back, but trying to get her to actually commit to anything was nearly impossible. It was classing push/pull the whole time. One day she'd be extremely friendly and nice to me, the next day she wouldn't want to talk to me. Then when I backed away, she wondered why I wasn't talking to her (I actually worked with her at the time, now I wouldn't fish of the company pier because I know better, but I didn't then). I soon reali…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/20 07:22 AM
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Oh please. You got all upset when I pointed out that sex was overrated, because I apparently hurt your feelings. You also pointed out that you never actually turned down any women who wanted to sleep with you... you just never found a woman who would have you. So you weren't actually "dedicated" to a future relationship, you just didn't have anything else to do. That's like trying to claim the moral high ground for breathing. I, for one, have absolutely no intention of being with a virgin, and i…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/20 07:14 AM
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I'm probably not a conventional MGTOW, in that I didn't Go My Own Way because "wimmin". In fact, I have no problem at all with women, feminism, society or any of those things. I knew from the age of 8 I didn't want children, and that has guided my decisions throughout the decades since. Nevertheless, I'll do my best to answer you. I don't think women are inherently bad. Heck, I love women. I love spending time with them, I just had a great conversation with a female friend after a gym workout th…
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 09:27 AM
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I'm glad you appreciated my post. I probably won't be posting it over at r/incelexit, largely because I've never considered myself an incel, and it's about time I took a break from reddit to focus on other things anyway. You're welcome to share the post over there if you think it will help those guys though.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/20 10:57 AM
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It wasn't nofap bullshit. In fact, I specifically said in the post (you did read it, right?) that I wasn't advocating anything superstitious such as nofap, merely pointing out the effects of porn. That is a completely different thing to telling people to abstain from masturbation or sexual release.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/20 07:12 PM
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I would argue that it's you who has the dismal attitude to life. There are close to 8 billion people in the world, and you want to go back to someone who apparently doesn't know what she wants? Let me lay it out for you. When she meets the guy she really likes, she won't be indecisive. When you meet the girl you really like, you won't need to ask strangers on the Internet whether or not you should be with her. You say you were both very immature, and it's showing in your reply to my post. With a…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/20 04:43 PM
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Short answer: Who cares whether she's leading you on. You broke up for a reason: It wasn't working. That really should be the end of it. Move on and find someone else, or better yet, spend some time alone and build your own life up to a point that this shit doesn't bother you any more. It could be any one of a number of possibilities. Maybe she's just romanticising the past (i.e. only remembering the good times), maybe she wants to try again, or maybe she just needs someone to fill a place until…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/20 03:47 PM
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Dude, stop beating yourself up about it. You made a mistake, that's all. Something we've all done many times over. Plenty of other fish in the sea. Seriously, go out and talk to some other girls. We've all been young and had our heart broken. It happens. Just move on and built a better life without her.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/20 08:32 AM
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Great discussion! Were you a red piller or were you always skeptical of their views? I took an interest in their views, and some of them I actually like. I really like the self-improvement stuff the talk about (lift, read, meditate), and I respect the way they talk about personal responsibility. However, I definitely don't share their obsession with sex, which I consider to be highly overrated (and I'm a guy who's done everything I ever wanted to do sexually). You can recognize a generalization …
/r/ExRedPill20/01/20 09:34 PM
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So what do you see as fundamentally wrong with red pill, and more specifically, MGTOW? Okay, specifically MGTOW? Well, it wouldn't be a great deal if the majority of men who claim to be MGTOW were, you know, actually going their own way. From my observations, it doesn't look like very many of them actually are. Some time ago I posed the question: Why is MGTOW such a pity party? This is based on the idea that people are supposed to be happy "going their own way" and doing what they want to do. Mo…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/20 10:14 AM
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No offense mate, but are you saying that when the Red pill says that they only go for "Alphas" is true?I see hot girls with ugly guys all the time, There's a lot more to being attractive than just looks (although looks definitely help). What kind of life do you live? Do you have a career? Do you have life goals? Can you carry on a conversation? Besides, looks are largely a matter of opinion anyway. People often have different tastes in terms of what they are looking for in a partner. But serious…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/20 09:17 PM
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It's not just worrying about it, it's about living like it every day. Do an audit on your own life and you'll be surprised in just how many little areas you're falling down. At least I was. I've had women in the past I wanted to date... I remember the frustrated feelings I had thinking "I don't get it, we're perfect for each other, and she hasn't found anybody else better than me! (one particular crush hadn't found anybody else point blank)." Of course, it was only later that I took a step back …
/r/ExRedPill02/01/20 01:31 AM
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I suspect most PUAs don't believe their "magical" method works on all women, but, you know, they have a product to sell, so they'll make fantastical claims that even they don't believe. It's best to take it with a grain of salt. A little less time on the Internet, and a little more time interacting with real people will show you what might work for YOU. Nothing else is relevant.
/r/ExRedPill02/01/20 01:21 AM
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The irony about MGTOW is that very few of the men who turn up on those communities are genuinely going their own way. Most of them are there because they were sent on their way because they couldn't handle rejection from women who were probably out of their league anyway. The way to handle it is not to retreat to some online woman-hating cult. It's to focus on bettering yourself. Decide the type of woman you want to meet or spend time with, then go to work on making yourself into the type of man…
/r/ExRedPill02/01/20 01:17 AM
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Been there, done that. It's not that special.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/19 02:50 AM
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Most of women who got triggered by mgtow mentality i met in real social situations. Yeah, and they stayed "triggered" right up until the next guy walked into the room, which probably happened in less time than it took you to type out the post. Okay, so you managed to upset some random chick temporarily. Well done you. Now you and your 15 year old alpha male buddies can go and high-five each other on a sub reddit somewhere and feel good for a while.
/r/MGTOW231/12/19 12:57 AM
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Well, if you want to analyse women, have at it. Get off the Internet, go out into the real world where the majority of women are an analyse away. You'll realise what someone else has already said above. 99% of women have no idea what MGTOW even is, and of the 1% who do, 99% of them probably don't even care.
/r/MGTOW231/12/19 12:46 AM
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Most people live life for the "now", not just women. I still don't see why that is a such a problem. Either way, from your description it isn't MGTOW that "triggers" these women, it's just plain old rejection that "triggers" everyone. And a person who's living for the now will only be "cut up" until the next guy walks into the room. Either way, I don't see why men supposedly going their own way are still arguing about what "triggers" women. It honestly sounds like the sort of things I talked abo…
/r/MGTOW231/12/19 12:38 AM
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The reason that sentiment is just a straight up lie is because it's just advertising, and that's hardly a reliable source of facts or even objective opinion. One thing I do agree with TRP on, and that is to go and work on yourself first. Become the person you want to be, then worry about finding a friend or a partner. That way, your own life will be much more rewarding regardless of whether or not you get laid.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/19 12:15 AM
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Why? Because many of us will be called upon to mentor other men who make the change. It helps to understand (and be able to explain) why things are the way they are. Honestly, how much mentoring does someone need to actually go their own way? Once a man makes a decision to follow his own purpose, what else is there? Brainwashing or conditioning? He's hardly going his own way if he requires these. The majority of women are indeed triggered by MGTOW. For it gives a glimpse of what would happen if …
/r/MGTOW231/12/19 12:09 AM
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I really hope you're trolling... for your sake. There's plenty of entertainment value here while I recover from illness... but not much else.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/19 11:46 PM
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You do know that the Match group (which owns match.com, tinder and others) has been busted a number of times for putting up fake profiles to make it look like there are more women using those sites than there actually are. They aren't the only ones either. There's one here in Australia called RSVP that has been caught doing essentially the same thing (the pictures on "profiles" were scans from magazines). It makes me wonder why anyone uses dating apps at all. As far as I'm concerned, you're just…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/19 11:45 PM
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I hope for your sake that you copied and pasted all that text. In all seriousness, why would a man going his own way even care about whether or not women are "triggered" by something they did or why? After all, you have better things to do, right? Right? So is this Men Going Their Own Way, or Men Sulking In Their Basements And Hoping Somebody Notices? It's advertised as the former, but when I see posts like this, I suspect it may be the latter. And just for the record, I don't believe the majori…
/r/MGTOW230/12/19 11:40 PM
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Sounds like this guy has some serious problems that only he can resolve, and you're honestly better off without him. But there's a lesson here for you, too. It's worth asking why you were (or are) upset about "losing" a serial cheater. Again, I think for most people (myself included), ego can cloud their judgement. Whereas we can all look at someone else and say "Well, they're better off without an alcoholic, porn-addicted philanderer", when it's us, we get defensive and say to ourselves "What d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:57 AM
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What about, you know, the other 98% of life that takes place outside the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:01 PM
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Yeah, the kids usually figure it out most of the time. The older one obviously figures it out first, and the first person they tell is the younger sibling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:57 PM
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I was actually a child in such a relationship (my father cheated on my mother for a number of years), and from the child's perspective, my advice to anyone being cheated on (male or female) is to leave. Leave today. Don't bother trying to talk to them about it, don't go to counselling (unless it's only to work on yourself and specifically the delusions that this can be saved). There are several reasons for this. If you don't leave today, it's likely the cheater will leave down the track anyway. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:46 PM
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I'm glad the polyamorous thing worked out for you, but would that be any different to simply knowing someone as a "friend with benefits"? Good point though on looking for someone with honesty, and especially the bit on "she might have a reputation as a bitch". I honestly hadn't thought of that before.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/19 09:41 PM
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Your problem isn’t that you’re an introvert, it’s that you’re over-intellectualizing literally everything. I'm just making statements based on experience. Introverts aren’t robots and enjoy company, they just get tired socializing. Yes, company is alright in small doses, but honestly, small talk gets boring after a short while. It seems in most social situations, getting blind drunk is the main focus, people degrading their bodies and their bank accounts in the hope of getting laid, and hopefull…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/19 09:30 PM
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I don't think I'm asexual. I still have the same biological desire as everyone else, which is the reason I spent so long chasing sex. Again, it wasn't that sex was terrible or bad. It was alright, and even fun sometimes. In the end, though, it wasn't the life changing experience it is often made out to be. I simply decided it wasn't worth the sacrifice.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/19 08:55 PM
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I got tired of the MGTOW content for largely the same reasons as you, and I think the happy bachelor thing is correct. I know that sex is easily available if I ever want to scratch that particular itch again, and maybe a 'friends with benefits' situation (which I think is similar to what you describe above) might work out. That said, I don't think there are very many women who would go with that, certainly none that I've ever met. One thing I've been clear on all my life is that I never wanted t…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/19 06:12 AM
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I think that sex just isn't that special to begin with. It's alright as a time filler in between chasing bigger goals in life. But when you compare it to the experience of climbing a mountain, travelling to a new country, learning a language and so on... well, sex just doesn't seem that great by comparison. Besides, "quality" is just a matter of opinion anyway. I think a lot of people who aren't getting sex on a regular basis somehow convince themselves that sex in one capacity or another will s…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/19 10:16 PM
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Most women will reject a man who's unemployed at my age or still lives in their parent's home at my age. You know that, and yet you pretend that doesn't matter. Why? A few posts ago you were a great provider (your own words). Now you're unemployed, broke and living with your parents. Which is it? If it's the latter, you can definitely do something about that. If you think that dying alone is no big deal, then you try it. Try isolating yourself for even a couple weeks and see how you feel. I actu…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/19 02:08 AM
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was avoiding dating until I was in a place I could be good husband because so many people advised me to do that one way or another. And when I was almost ready, I had the rug pulled out from under me by loosing my job. And clearly you missed the lesson here. The lesson is that there will never be a perfect time to start dating. If it's not the job and the money it will be something else. If you want to start dating, then start dating. If you don't, then just give up on the notion of finding some…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/19 07:03 PM
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No, women don't sexualise everything. You do. Women wear yoga pants to the gym because it's practical clothing for the gym or the yoga class. If a woman you want to talk to is "showing too much cleavage", nobody's forcing you to look. Try looking at her face when communicating with her. Women wear whatever they like in public because it's a free society and that's one of the perks of living in the west. If you don't like the way women dress in the west, go and live in Saudi Arabia or North Korea…
/r/MGTOW230/11/19 10:02 AM
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Number one on the list should be this: Sex is overrated. Yes, it can be fun sometimes, but it's not really all that special. It's useful as a time filler between pursuing bigger goals, but if you have "getting laid" or "getting pussy" as your main goal, it will ultimately be a disappointment.
/r/MGTOW230/11/19 09:57 AM
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Working my butt off in big tech so that maybe someday I can be a good provider? Avoiding dating until I'm in a place to be a good husband? Remaining a virgin? I think you missed the point of my question. What I was asking was whether avoiding dating and remaining a virgin was actually a choice, or whether it was something forced upon you because you weren't that attractive to begin with. Now again, remaining a virgin is a perfectly legitimate choice to make, but you sound like you're just trying…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/19 09:54 AM
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And ultimately I want to be with someone who thinks that there is something very special about being a virgin. Otherwise, all the sacrifice I've put into waiting and trying to prepare myself has been for not. And what sacrifices are those, specifically? How many women have you turned down after they approached you because you wanted to remain a virgin? If you're anything like most black pillers, that number isn't too high. Honestly, you sound like a guy who's "experience" with women has been to …
/r/ExRedPill30/11/19 12:15 AM
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I didn't say sex was the same thing as taking a dump, just that they're both natural drives. The fact that something is a natural drive doesn't make it "special", it just makes it something that we do. Oh, and by the way, I have experienced sex. I've just experienced a lot of other things that were just better. I feel sad for you that sex is apparently the best thing you've ever experienced in your life.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/19 09:14 PM
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I'm not suggesting anyone try to turn off their sex drive or try to abstain for unreasonable periods of time. In fact, my reply to another poster who told me he loves sex was to live it up and enjoy it. The thing is, having lots of sex or no sex will not make you a better person or make your life any better. It's just another recreational activity, that's all. You know what else is a natural drive? Excretion. Taking a dump. Yet interestingly, nobody talks about how many dumps they've taken. Peop…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/19 06:56 PM
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It hasn't been "reduced" to a recreational sport. The truth is, it was never more than that to begin with.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/19 10:51 AM
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Alright, this might sound harsh, and apologies in advance for that, but right now you're traveling down a dangerous black pill road that will only leave you even more bitter and angry in the future. Regardless of whether you believe you have a "reasonable" argument. I've been where you are, and let me tell you that it won't get any better until you do something different. Hence the complaint that most of the folks my age were sleeping around. And that's going to be a problem when I purposefully …
/r/ExRedPill26/11/19 09:15 AM
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I could accept the MGTOW philosophy if more of the men who post on the MGTOW subs (there are at least two of them) actually followed that philosophy. Sadly, it seems many of them don't. The vast majority of the men on those subs seem bitter and angry about women having rights. Most of the posts there are basically "women this", "Feminism that", "Divorce laws", "hypergamy" and so on. There's very little there about independent male life or being the best man you can be for yourself. That's a sham…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/19 08:37 AM
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Does the Red Pill attitude of "Try to fuck as many 9s and 10s as possible" breed good husbands? Really? In all seriousness though, if you want to be a good husband, the first thing I'd suggest is go to work in yourself first. Become the type of person you want to be, the type of person who would make a good husband. Then (and only then) go looking for a female who might appreciate a good husband. Do not try to do these things in reverse. I'll give you a hint. Spending 18 hours a day on reddit co…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/19 10:01 PM
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Then live it up. Have threesomes, have orgies if that's what you want to to. Enjoy it. Just don't let it define who you are.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/19 09:24 PM
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I am wondering what will happen to a group of children who were raised being told that there are enough humans already they do not need to be mother or father, that it is fine to never have sex, that it is fine to pay for sex, that it is fine to never have a partner without stigma attached, that they should just focus on what they want to become. I am so with this paragraph. I'll admit to having paid for sex in the past, more times than I care to remember (I also live in a place where it's legal…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/19 09:23 PM
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That was beautiful. Have an upvote. I only wish I could give two for that.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/19 11:45 PM
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Do you feel you’ve missed out on sexual and emotional development that you wanted to have? Being told no (“rejected”) many, many times in IRL dating is completely normal for people of all ages and sexual orientations. Having to get out there and work on yourself, your flirting and social connection ability is part of sexual development. When men turn to porn and escorts, I think they neglect and sabotage strengthening their social skills related to building authentic two-way connection with wome…
/r/ExRedPill03/11/19 09:24 AM
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Please tell me what mistake this was. I'd really like to know so I can correct it and reduce the damage it does to my life.
/r/ExRedPill03/11/19 05:02 AM
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Thanks for that, and you're completely right by the way. In the real world, most people are thoroughly decent, most of the time. I guess we tend to remember the few who are not precisely because they are so unusual. Then when we get on the Internet and complain about it, it makes it seem like bad things happen more often than they really do. I think spending some time in Japan recently helped open my eyes to the value of politeness, courtesy and respect. I was treated very well by people there, …
/r/ExRedPill02/11/19 10:49 AM
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Well that's because I've come to the conclusion that MGTOW is not a philosophy. At least not in the way it's described on the Internet. I honestly don't believe there's anything wrong with a person choosing to live an independent life. Hence I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. If a person has tried dating and/or relationshps, found it wasn't for them and decided they are happier going it alone, good luck to them. What I do have a problem with is wasting hours on end on the Internet …
/r/ExRedPill02/11/19 10:41 AM
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It won't heal the world. For one thing, there isn't a problem here. There have always been losers who wanted sex and couldn't get it. The only difference today is that they can now jump on Internet forums and connect with other losers. More importantly, for these guys, getting laid won't fix their issue. Sex is just about the most overrated thing in the world. It's not magical or special. Besides, the problem these guys have is not celibacy. It's laziness. When they finally get laid, they'll sti…
/r/MGTOW214/10/19 09:04 PM
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Regardless I walked away after that, refusing to take part and wondered, why in God's name was this guy with her, why put up with her shit? Perhaps she can suck a basketball through a garden hose. That's usually the reason such an accomplished man would put up with that sort of crap. Regardless, walking away is generally the best course of action here.
/r/MGTOW221/09/19 11:37 PM
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Clearly, you haven't read the sidebar on this subreddit. This is not the original MGTOW subreddit. Women-hating, hate and negativity in general Keep the misogyny to a minimum. We'll allow for dispassionate discussions about female nature as long as it doesn't devolve into hatred, but we may step in if such posts overtake this sub. This is a positive space for male progress and life outside women; as such, we do not want hateful or negative posts. We do not want to degenerate into a negativity ec…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 09:32 PM
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The real problem with what mothers teach their sons isn't that it's overly optimistic. It's just that it doesn't give them a road map that explains how to reach their destination. In the old days (like pre 1800) when a young man couldn't find a woman, what did he do? He just sucked it up and got on with the job of farming better so he might be able to improve himself sufficiently that he might find a mate. These days, society (often led by the parents) just tells men "don't worry, just be yourse…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 09:27 PM
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Well, if calling those who question your opinions a "dumbass" is a reflexion on how you behave in broader society, it may well be something you are doing. If labelling an entire gender as "cunts" is a reflection... I'm no bodybuilder/supermodel, in fact, I'm almost 43, so I'm hardly a good looking diamond either. The point is, once they people you're interacting with mature, they will become more polite. Again, maybe the problem is the people you're choosing to interact with.
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 09:19 PM
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No, what I'm saying is that virgins don't know what they enjoy sexually until the experience it. In much the same way as a person doesn't know what kind of food they like until they actually... you know... try it. The last thing I want to do is marry a woman who is a virgin, then who suddenly decides she doesn't like having sex with me when she eventually tries it. Always take the car for a test drive before buying it. By the way, my lack of respect for incels doesn't come from their lack of sex…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 09:15 PM
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Your conversations with women at work should be limited to "Good morning/afternoon" and polite conversations about work. The same thing goes for your male colleagues by the way. A Sexual harassment accusation is just one thing that can go wrong if you say too much. Keep your political opinions to yourself... if they happen to clash with those of management you could be in trouble. If you have social media accounts, keep them clean. Don't post anything there that you wouldn't be happy to see on t…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 09:07 PM
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Looks like the incels have arrived. This may be the worst advice I've ever read on this forum (and that's really saying something). Believe me, the last woman in the world I want to spend time with is a virgin. And that's based on experience. Virgin women frequently have no idea what they want or who they're looking for. They frequently have no passion for anyone (so if you're looking for a sexual relationship, forget it), and if you do end up doing something sexual with her, she won't have a cl…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 09:01 PM
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Two questions for you: What is your definition of a "complete cunt"? Are you 15 by any chance? I ask these because that hasn't been my experience at all, and I've travelled the world and interacted with women from every continent on Earth. None of them were "complete cunts" for the most part. I found most of them to be quite polite and friendly (even the American feminist chick I went hiking with in Croatia). When I was in high school, the girls I interacted with could be quite bratty (hence the…
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 08:54 PM
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But society is not in decline. I don't know why people persist with the idea that it is. We live longer than ever before, we have more wealth and more freedom than ever before, we have access to greater knowledge than ever before. In the light of all this, I really wish someone... anyone.. would give me one compelling reason why these events reflect a society in "decline". Or more to the point, if we're doing so well while this "society" declines, why we should bother even trying to save it.
/r/MGTOW214/09/19 05:46 AM
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Let's get one thing straight here. People aren't about to "just stop having kids". The poor, the religious and the uneducated will continue to pop out kids without thinking of the consequences, as has been the case for most of the last 100 years+. When we need an underclass to provide our labour needs (and that's what people are really saying when they complain about declining birth rates and the like), there are and will always be plenty of options. We can simply employ one of the offspring fro…
/r/MGTOW213/09/19 07:36 PM
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Nobody is doubting that women can be abusive asshats. I was replying to a post that referred to men abusing the children of single mothers. Either way, marriage, divorce or anything else do nothing about the problem of abusive parents (regardless of the gender). What it needs is far more serious consequences for the abuser. Something really barbaric that makes them think twice.
/r/MGTOW213/09/19 10:40 AM
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Unfortunately, that is just wishful thinking. Have you seen the world's population lately? ​ There is no fertility crisis.
/r/MGTOW213/09/19 10:36 AM
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The problem with being pro-divorce is the statistics about single motherhood and child abuse. If the woman re-marries, that child is 40 times more likely to be abused. Men who date single moms don't exactly care about some other man's child. All the more reason for the woman not to remarry. Oh, and by the way, if the men who abuse these children suffered the appropriate penalties in the hands of the legal system for abusing children, these statistics would soon change. So without children, yeah …
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 09:58 PM
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I don't think it is a must. Think about this. Since contemporary "marriage" (as you describe it) started to replace traditional marriage, we have seen the following societal changes in the west: Longer life expectancies than ever before. Greater personal freedom than ever before. Greater economic prosperity for just about everyone than ever before. People acquiring greater knowledge than ever before. The list goes on, but that's enough for now. If these things are an example of the "downfall" of…
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 09:54 PM
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"Traditional" marriage is exactly what I'm opposed to. Seriously, do you want to be stuck with someone who is inadequate in any number of ways until your dying day, just because you made a mistake when you were 20 and chose poorly? At least contemporary marriage gives you an out (i.e. divorce). Yes, it might cost you a lot of money, but personally I'd be happy to pay it if it gave me my life back.
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 09:45 PM
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I don't think it's his temper that makes him attractive to women. On the contrary, I think his temper is the reason they want to get out. They probably see only one side of his hot/cold personality when they are dating him and think "Wow, he's a wonderful man". Then after marriage the true person comes out, and they eventually realise that this is who he really is and the behaviour during the dating phase was just a front. My father was exactly the same, and I've met plenty of women who also fit…
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 09:43 PM
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People have been saying "society is going to collapse" for over 1,000 years. We're still here. Scholars since the dark ages have equated pretty much every disaster (either natural or man-made) with the collapse of society or "God" punishing humans for their sin. We're still waiting for them to be right just once. Society won't collapse until humans become extinct. It's as simple as that. Until that happens (and eventually it will... in a few million years or so), society will continue to be here…
/r/MGTOW208/09/19 09:38 PM
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No, it wasn't. It was just your opinion. Now you might have some echo-chamber forum full of people who share that opinion, but it was still just your opinion. Holding a negative opinion of someone or a group of people with absolutely no factual evidence is the very definition of hate. Like I said before, perhaps you'd be happier if you just started dating men.
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:45 AM
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MGTOW is just an effect that the world caused. And this is where we get to the distinction I was trying to make. I was living this lifestyle long before I knew what feminism was, long before divorce courts started raking men over the coals. Heck, long before I was old enough to feel attraction for girls or women. For me, MGTOW was the catalyst, not the effect. So for those who feel as though it's an affect, are they really going their own way? Or are they merely being sent on their way? Like the…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:42 AM
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Give me one example of that. You're just making things up. I have no hatred for women. Gladly. Let's summarize all that. It's basically the worst of all the cliches. Completely materialistic and hypergamous, completely amoral and criminal, and totally classless and narcissistic with indiscriminate cheating lying in wait. Quoted from your own post. Nah, you don't have any hatred of women. Maybe you'd be happier dating men. You have no understanding of human psychology. No wonder you can't grasp t…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:27 AM
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You should take a course in reading and comprehension some day.
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:23 AM
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Well that's what I said before. If I was new to these forums, or the idea of MGTOW, the first thing I'd notice when I came here is just how angry and depressed people here seem to be. Then I would ask myself whether I really want to be angry and depressed too? And I suspect the answer I would come up with would be in the negative. You see, I don't consider the realities to be "cold and hard". I'm a guy in my 40s who is less cynical than I was in my teens (really). I love the way the modern world…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:18 AM
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True, they do have bigger problems, but that's not necessarily the problems they are worried about. Perhaps they should be. Maybe solving those problems will make them a lot happier than tying themselves to some online group apparently does. Fair enough, however pointing out females/feminists hypocrisy gives those people a reason to fight them and hopefully get attention while doing so and keep growing. I wish that hypocrisy was limited to females/feminists, but sadly, over the years I've lost a…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:14 AM
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I have neither the time nor the interest to go through some dude's youtube video point by point and try to debunk it. That's the thing about opinions, people either agree with them or they don't. Period. I had a read through your post, and most of it was just complaining expressing your own hatred of women. In effect, it really just proves what I said in my original post. You're living in a life with opportunities your ancestors couldn't even imagine, and here you are complaining about a group o…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 11:07 AM
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Companionship comes in may forms. I have female friends who fulfil my companionship needs. I'm actually at a point now where I'm not interested in pursuing these women for sex, simply because we just have better things to do together.
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:58 AM
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Who said anything about self-improvement porn? There's a lot more to independent male life than mental masturbation or women-hating.
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:55 AM
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The problem here is that the "daily red pill fix" you talk about is just some guy's opinion. It's not reality anymore than some bullshit feminist propaganda is reality. By giving themselves a daily "fix" of some guy's opinion, they are really just brainwashing themselves. I'll give you a clue: If what that guy posted on his youtube channel was "reality", they wouldn't need a daily fix of it. Their experiences alone would reaffirm those beliefs. Dude, I was young once too. I know what's it's like…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:52 AM
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The things I stated in my case that men "might not like" are just a few examples that I quickly thought of off the top of my head. Nobody has to like them, I'm sure they can find things of their own that they do like. In fact, if they can't find things of their own, they have much bigger problems than divorce rape, or courts or any of the other things we hear so much about. I'm not denying that men have problems, serious problems, but if there are men who are deeply concerned about that, maybe i…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:43 AM
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This is a good point. So are we to conclude that MGTOW forums are basically there to serve men at a certain level, but they become redundant at some point too?
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:28 AM
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Because everytime I want to read something about independent male life, all I get are posts complaining about women.
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:26 AM
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Maybe it's just me, but I never really went through those stages of grief - not any of them. I don't believe life is "stacked against men" - at least not in the modern age. Maybe in the past, perhaps, but today men have more options and freedom than at any previous point in history. We have more freedom to go our own way than we've ever had before. You want to live and work in another country? Easier than ever before. You want to learn to speak another language or play a musical instrument? Easi…
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:26 AM
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I don't really see thinking about sex as a red pill vs blue pill issue. If you're in need of sex, do something to satisfy that need. In this day and age, it's easier than at any previous time in human history, simply due to the availability of escorts, porn and so on. Personally, I think sex is way overrated, but that's just my personal opinion.
/r/MGTOW217/08/19 10:21 AM
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