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It is good in moderation like everything else in life. The problem is that some people's identity revolves around it that they have to sexualize everything. When the only thing that makes you happy is sex, you need to step back and reflect on your life. There is more to life than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:36 AM

Have you considered the opposite that men are just easy to feel attracted to women that women barely have to do anything? I would argue that a man without libido would not find a majority of women that most men find attractive. I noticed that during my peak libido I find quite a lot of women attractive while my lows I would see a lot of women quite boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:08 AM
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If I am not mistaken, a lot of men complain about women needing validation by making other people praise them. How is this any different with men wanting validation with causal sex? You only need one woman to be sexually attracted to you in order to solve your libido problem. You can live as a man simply being friends with everyone else. Being friends is enough proof people want you around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:14 AM
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What opportunity cost? What exactly do you get from thinking no amount of effort would make you dateable from you thinking you can still improve yourself as a whole because someone out there is attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:38 AM
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If lottery tickets are free, do you agree people will try their luck with it? The cost of buying ticket is the only downside and people would definitely take free lottery tickets by default even if they have infinitesimally small chance of winning. What is the cost of having the mindset knowing someone out there is attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:16 AM
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Very unlikely doesn't mean impossible. That alone is enough to push you to an optimistic view in life and work hard towards improvement instead of giving up because no amount of hard work will land you a partner that will like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:01 AM
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Being motivated is what makes you do something instead of doing nothing because there is no goal to achieve. Why improve yourself if you are undateable? Again, it's in the mindset. Saying nobody will ever be attracted to you is a defeatist mindset. But the idea that one person who is attracted to you exists on the same earth as you means there is a chance of meeting them no matter how small it may be. Nobody is certain of anything so you cannot be certain of never meeting them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:16 PM
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When you break you lose any motivation. There is no point to live life when nobody will ever be attracted to you. The idea that someone out there is attracted to you and you have a chance to meet them in the future in another place is why you keep improving for that person you have yet to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:04 PM
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It does because a positive mindset is why you don't break under pressure while a negative one makes you fragile and easy to break from the slightest pressure. When you are struggling finding a partner, knowing someone out there is attracted to you is how you find worth within yourself to keep going. Otherwise, the idea that nobody on earth can ever be attracted to you is quite depressing and can have a negative effect on your confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:59 PM
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There is a big difference between the idea of nobody on earth will ever like you from that one person who will like you as you are exists somewhere on earth. At the very least, you are optimistic with the idea that there will always be someone who is attracted to you and can impact your confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:44 PM
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Saying some people are undateable is equivalent to saying some people are universally like and no one can ever dislike them. There will always be outliers that will dislike any given person for reasons like taste in looks or views. The same reasoning apply to unpopular people. Sure, you are unpopular for most of the population but an outlier exists that likes the very things that makes you unpopular in the first place. In short, birds of the same feather flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:41 PM
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I would say that someone desperate to lose their virginity and failing is a red flag over someone still a virgin simply because they have no time for any relationship because of work or hobbies. The latter just haven't found someone compatible with their lifestyle while the former must be doing something wrong if they are failing despite trying hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:54 AM
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Control. That's the keyword here. If how you move and act is being controlled by another then you are submissive. If your movement and action is free and you can do whatever you want without having to consider the input of another then you are dominant. That is all. Movement is simply an indication but does not says everything whether they are submissive or dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:53 PM
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Not necessarily about verbal but it's about having control and the one doing the thrusting usually have control. I guess we can say there is an exception if the women is in control of how a man thrusts like during femdom roleplay. So basically: noone demanding anything, just having normal sex = no power dynamic Demand has nothing to do with it. That was just an example of control being expressed verbally. Like I said, dominance and submission is all about the expression of controlling another or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:43 PM
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It's in the perspective because if you are passive and let the other person have control on what they want to do then you are being submissive. If you are receiving oral but you have no control on what the other is doing then you are submissive. Most of the time though you have control which is why it's generally not seen as submissive especially if you demanded for them to kneel and suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:35 PM
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It ultimately comes down to perspective. Men are usually the active partner so they see it as them doing the action and the violent phrasing simply suggests lively and passionate sex. I would say it's simply an expression of how passionate sex can be and it is equivalent to pounding nails that takes effort and every strike that drives down those nails in is satisfying to feel and watch. Sex seems degrading for some men because being submissive is bad in the perspective of men and them losing con…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:29 PM

Misogyny is real but some women have learned to weaponized it and antagonize men that they don't like or disagree with them. It's on the same boat of calling someone you don't like a nazi just because it's one of the worst accusation you can think of. With the word being carelessly thrown around, some have learned to tune it out whenever someone screams misogyny. Think of the boy who cried wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:50 AM
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Obviously, there are women using men for money especially men with strong compulsion to be the provider while they barely do the minimum known as gold diggers. The signs is as simple as imbalance of effort between the two with one working hard for the relationship to work while the other do bare minimum. There are other ways for a woman to use a man like for ego or for rebound purposes but money as a reason is as old as humanity itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:24 PM

I'll keep that in mind. It is indeed an ever increasing problem but the solution is not going extreme but rather pull each side closer to the middle and talk things out. I understand the struggle of men as a man myself but I certainly don't want to antagonize women that doesn't hold extremist view and antagonizing men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:00 AM

Initially I thought this is what women want which is simply being free to what they want to do like men does but then I realized these are the same women that antagonizes men for doing the same thing. Turns out extremist women do not just want freedom but is actually hostile towards men and that really changed my initial views and considering what men are saying about them. That said, I plan to stay in the middle because the truth is always in the middle. I am just going to continue observing wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:27 PM

Personally, I'm trying to understand the phenomenon of men vs women because I never experienced this growing up outside the west and it's something recent from what I can tell. Initially, I thought it's just men making a mountain out of a molehill but the more I look the more I realized there is genuine concern about it because of extreme narratives from the women's side being visible and creating a divide between the two. Turns out extreme narratives from either side are further widening the ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:34 PM

At least the religious guys have something to bond over which is religion. Everyone else seems to be settling to fulfill their sexual needs and find non sexual bonding elsewhere like their current friends. Some men are just desperate that they are willing to settle with a hot woman even if they are not compatible with everything else. Being attractive is important but if that's the only thing that matters to a man, then you are being settled with. That's the whole reason behind the joke of men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:51 PM
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If I enjoy being with her outside of sex then I genuinely desire her. That means we bond over a lot of things like hobbies. Obviously, sex would be passionate and not mundane or boring. If sex is the only activity a man enjoys with a woman, then it's most likely being settled because she fulfills his sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:26 PM
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Men and women have their own natural interests. It's baked into the nature of masculinity and femininity and should be respected. That doesn't mean though gatekeeping hobbies based on gender as long as the opposite gender respects the culture within that hobby. Nothing wrong with women playing video games with the boys as long as they have to respect that men usually involve trash talking one another in a competitive game. I have seen some tourists try to change certain hobbies to fit their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:54 AM
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If you think about it, that disparity helps the inexperience catch up in experience assuming we are talking about a man with no malicious intent. An inexperienced couple trying to raise kids has a high chance of failing at parenting than older couples which would then affect the kids and become a bigger failure. Either one isn't allowed to have kids until their 30s so they have a lot of adult experience or an age gap is acceptable as long as that age gap isn't exploitative and the older person u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:27 AM
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After finding out about disney adults and them as the product of disney wanting paying adults with the mind and impulses of a kid, my suspicion seem to be right that adults in the west have slowed when it comes to mental maturity which explains why even young adults in their mid 20s are treated like minors. It would make sense that a whole generation of kids have been conditioned to never leave their childhood and it is now affecting society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:29 PM
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A big part of male pleasure though is seeing the female form in erotic ways which is why straight men are not turned on by gay porn that has no female form in it. It's the reason why some straight men are into lesbian and even femboys if they are feminine enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:51 PM
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I find kneeling to propose overly dramatic anyway and I actually cringe just by thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:52 PM

Can you please explain how does explaining a basic biological fact makes one a pedophile? I guess all pediatricians are pedophiles then for dealing with children and their bodies. Once again, the word pedophiles seemed to have lost its meaning at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:58 PM
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Right, but as I said, it's not about being hungry. It's about wanting grilled chicken specifically. Why? Isn't it because you like it and it's satisfying? This is not universal but something subjective. Are you assuming everyone loves grilled chicken more than burgers? You are now stepping into the territory of subjectivity which completely destroys your arguments because you have no objective basis why something is better than the other. No, it's not subjective. The sensations are objectively d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:54 AM
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Grilled chicken isn't the only way to satisfy your hunger. You are basically telling that everyone must love grilled chicken because no other food is as tasty as it. Sure, it is tasty but a hamburger is equally tasty and I can be satisfied with it. Yes, sensations which is subjective which is why you can get horny just by looking at an attractive woman without any physical stimulation. That is enough proof visual stimulation is already strong enough that masturbation with the help of visual aid …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:39 AM
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Anyway, it is still true that it's worse than sex even with modern technology, a hand still feels different from a mouth or a vagina, or even a stranger's hand. It's all about being satisfying and it's completely subjective. You are assuming actual sex is always better which is why I asked if you would rather fuck an ugly landwhale than jerk off to a perfect woman using technology. If you have to close your eyes to fuck said landwhale, how is it better than buying your own sex doll if all you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:24 AM
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You feel horny, you manage that urges by jerking off like you manage the urge to piss by pissing. Done. The problem is jerking off is substandard experience compared to actual sex for much of human history but this isn't true in the modern times with technology. You can have platonic friends and feel loved that way. There is no need to bundle sex and emotional bonding with other people. Are you telling me you would rather fuck an ugly landwhale than jerk off to the perfect woman of your dreams u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:46 AM

How is he a pedophile for pointing a fact? Doesn't it make sense that men are attracted to boobs because it shows a woman is mature as opposed to small or flat ones? Does the word pedophile even mean anything at this point other than the worst insult you can possibly think of?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:34 AM
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Honestly, I am not sure at this point considering I have put dating and romance at a lesser priority. I don't have the time and energy playing trial and error when I can use that for something far more consistent like enjoying my hobbies. Decades ago, I struggled with unrequited love which blinded me to girls that are actually interested in me and only in hindsight years later did I realized I missed that opportunity because of that unrequited love and how I generally see myself as unattractive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:46 PM
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You don't need sex, you need libido management and you can do this simply by jerking off to the perfect fap material. With the advent of AI, you can easily make the perfect fap material and get it out of your system. Being wanted is as easy as interacting with people in a non-sexual way. Horniness can get in the way of a clear mind and the reason why men keep searching for it is because they haven't satisfied it yet because jerking off can only get you so far. This is less of an issue with techn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:55 PM
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Indifferent. Not great because that's not good for them but definitely good for me if I am attracted to them. As long as this does not lead to troubles and conflict down the line, it's not that big of a deal. It's them feeling regret about it whether I would feel bad or not. I don't want someone who had regrets being with me continue to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:47 PM
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I would say that is partly true with the other half being societal expectation. Nobody likes being rejected and society expecting men to initiate is a convenient excuse to not do anything at all. Men are pressured to keep going because society expects them to and this can be bad for mental health for some men. So the solution is just defy societal expectation and just do whatever you feel like. Feel free to initiate if you want but one shouldn't be forced to initiate just because society expects…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:41 PM
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You can always answer back why propose if she didn't like you that much. She wouldn't nag if she like you that much in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:46 PM
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Why shouldn't she? At least I know she loves me that much that she proposed to me. Admittingly, it would feel weird because of how society has conditioned us about men proposing to women but I would imagine a proposing woman isn't going to involve anything fancy like kneeling in front of the public complete with all the fanfare. If it's a simple and humble proposal, then it would feel natural and not weird at all like a simple invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:12 AM
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You don't fuck undesirables and that's the simple reason. Then again, that doesn't accurately reflect desirability when that desirable person just don't like casual sex and pretty devoted towards a single partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:41 AM
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It's about knowing the right things to say to other people so they are comfortable with you. People with bad social skills tend to say things bluntly which is good in a way but can also create tension with others. Others just say things that makes other cringe but is unaware of it themselves. Social skills is a good thing to have but isn't what I call a foundation of a romantic relationship. Compatibility is still the most important because two people who finds bad social skills attractive for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:38 AM
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Hard pill to swallow but this is correct. If you look at this in an evolutionary perspective, then it seems bad. But then you remember that great scientists like Isaac Newton died a virgin and Einstein is just a shitty romantic partner because both of them focused more on science. Some people are just bad at romance but good with something else and that's something they should focus on instead of forcing it because of societal expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:11 AM
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Be aware that the loud minority is the most visible and can skew the perspective of the whole. It's similar to being brought to a country's prison and then judging the population as a whole based on the people in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:39 AM
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Simple incompatibility. Imagine a woman who you see as a little sister that you can't imagine having romantic feelings with suddenly confessing to you. Would you force yourself to accept her despite how you don't see her romantically or would you reject her? Being friends does help in establishing romantic relationships but compatibility is the foundation. Without that, it's not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:33 PM
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Shitty people are attracted to equally shitty people. That's it. If you want a kind person attracted to you, then be equally kind and shitty people would avoid you like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:42 AM
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I won't go for a woman with that personality either. Dealing with anxiety is a hassle for the average person regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:13 AM
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They are passive if they are indifferent with a man. If they really like him, they will initiate. So it's a perfect way to know if the woman is into you or you are just another generic man that isn't particularly interesting. If the man has to do everything, then it means that at most she has lukewarm feelings towards you and not particularly passionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:37 PM

It's not about preference because it's about exploiting differences whether it be cultural or financial differences. If you are a white man who travels because you love travelling and meet a lover overseas, nobody is going to bat an eye on you. If you travel for the sole purpose of exploiting differences, then everyone is not going to just let you do that. Big difference. If an asian woman does that to a white man for the same reason, they too will be considered as exploitative if the man in que…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:33 PM
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Some men don't even really like doing the work, so sleeping with unattractive women will be there only recourse. Do you not see it as desperation and equivalent to someone who would rather eat trash than find a job and buy a decent meal? This is another reason why I would rather die a virgin simply on principle that I am not at the mercy of my impulses to get laid. Honestly, the idea that men will sleep with anyone isn't a flex but a weakness because it shows poor impulse control and desperation…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:31 AM
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Understandable that some would put losing virginity above everything else but I'm pretty sure most men would rather lose it in a memorable way and most regret when they are talked into losing it at all costs even if it means doing it with an uggo. I am the type that pays attention to the face so I guess that explains why I would rather die a virgin than doing it with an uggo. The satisfaction of doing with a beauty on my first time is many times more powerful than being a virgin for life. Both o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:42 AM
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I would rather take a pill that temporarily makes me sterile than having my nuts pierced to get the same effect. To be honest, the fact women have pills that does the same is why it is preferable for the woman to have the contraceptive if we are talking about doing it raw. Otherwise, I wouldn't have problem taking a pill contraceptive myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:22 AM
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I'm pretty sure a lot of men had regrets with sleeping with a woman out of desperation. It's like post nut clarity except this time it's sex with a woman you only fuck to lose your virginity. Like I said, losing your virginity is doable but undoing the fact you losing it to someone you would rather forget is literally impossible. It's also a bad optics if the only way you would lose virginity is through desperation and not because you have control over it. I'm not sure people would respect you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:57 AM
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I'm not that religious and it's simply the fact I am not desperate for sex that I would lose it to some random woman that I am not attracted to. A man struggling to lose his virginity only struggles until the day he loses it with effort. A man struggling with the fact he lost it to someone he would rather forget will struggle with it for life and he can never undo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:44 AM
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I would rather die a virgin than lose it to someone I am not attracted to. It's not worth losing your virginity like that because you only lose it once and you might as well lose it with someone memorable like someone you love or at least someone you find very attractive. Just imagining losing it to someone forgettable or someone I would rather forget is making me feel regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:12 AM

The point is that bear kills for necessity but an evil man isn't going to kill someone without satisfying other sick desires he has. Bear has no intent to prolong your suffering but an evil man does. This is the biggest difference between the two. You can see how meeting an evil man is way worse than a predator bear despite the fact bears are much more likely to attack humans than men would. It's a choice between the less likely of being dangerous from having a relatively quick death.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:45 PM
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There are only two reason for bears to attack a human; it's either food or defense. In either case, it is in the bear's interest that the victim is dealt with for as quickly as possible for it to save time and energy instead of a scuffle that can waste its time and energy and even injuring itself. There is no reason for a bear to maliciously keep its victim alive and the bear doing so for some reason is an exception. Being eaten alive is no different from being torn apart and death would come re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:32 PM
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Depends on the man but sadists men do exists among the wrong kind of men but there is no such thing as sadist bear that has something to gain from prolonging the life of their victim. Also, bears aren't going to rape you as a woman while there is a high chance of being a rape victim when dealing with the wrong man before your life gets cut. On the contrary, I am on the side of men as a man myself but I don't want to be in an echo chamber that splits men further from understanding women and them …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure the only intent of bears is either to eliminate threat as quickly as possible or incapacitate prey for them to feast on without struggle because it also benefits them. They have no intent of sadism that prolongs the suffering of their victim. So it is arguable that bears prolonging suffering of prey is a rare exception and not the norm. This is in contrast with the wrong kind of man you would find in the forest that definitely has malicious and sadistic intent to prolong the suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:23 AM
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Then why the need to make me say that man =! rapist if 99% of men are just regular men that wishes no harm on women? Do you agree that rapists do exist even if they are in the extreme minority? We are talking about men because the issue is about men vs bear so I'm not sure why bring in women and nonbinary here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:38 PM
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My argument is clear that it's less likely to encounter the wrong man over the wrong bear but encountering the wrong man is much worse than encountering the wrong bear. So it's not a clear cut choice because you either choose the less likely encounter or the less painful death.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:20 PM
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Right which is why the analogy is only 1% of the time you are going to encounter the wrong man with 99% of the time you meet a regular guy that won't do harm to you. Read my arguments again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:15 PM
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Bear vs man would make more sense in the context of choosing wrong. With a bear, you are dead in minutes. With a man, you are going to get violated and kept alive for some time before you end up dead. Many would choose a swift death over a slow and humiliating death. But in terms of how often would you encounter the wrong man/bear, it's less likely to encounter the wrong man than the wrong bear. So it's actually a hard choice to make equivalent to choosing between a bottle that has 20% chance of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:10 PM
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It's simply a desire that one does not need to explain like survival because it's just the way it is. When you think about it, survival of a species in the grand scheme of things is useless because the universe would still exist even if life does not and yet life is compelled towards survival. The same applies to men wanting women, specifically the feminine appearance. It doesn't matter if that feminine appearance is on a doll or even on a man that looks feminine enough to pass as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:14 PM
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I also dislike dating apps and prefer the old fashion way of just meeting people by chance and just connecting with them. I'm not even as old as the OP but I grew up before internet was widespread. More importantly, I wasn't exposed to internet wars between men and women growing up and didn't gave me a pessimistic view of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:13 PM
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The sad reality is men are in love (at least what they think is love) while women are in business. The problem is that some men confusing love with lust and is the reason why some of these men thinks they are morally superior to what women do when in fact they are equally exploitative. While some women sees men as business, these men sees women as a product to satisfy their lust and libido under the disguise of love. When some of these men realize they are as equally shitty as women seeing them …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:10 PM
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No, it wouldn't? Not even remotely true Why would you think that? The fact is that women right now is more reactive than taking initiative so their perspective is more about reacting to approaches and not taking the initiative. The opposite is true with men that only see the approach perspective towards women they find attractive and failing to understand what it feels like to be approached by someone you aren't attracted to. I'm pretty sure there are women that finds it easy to be attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:35 PM
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At the very least, women approaching means women would finally understand the struggle of most men. At the same time, men would also finally understand how it feels to be approached by someone you aren't interested in. I would say that quite a lot would change once men and women gets to see the other perspective and empathize on one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:12 AM
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The pursuit for sex is why the loneliness epidemic exists. A man's worth becomes measured by getting laid instead of something more productive. Once men overcome that impulse for sexual gratification, they would realize there is more to life than sex and women and they will find happiness and satisfaction in a lot of things. As a bonus, women would less likely be on guard from men that doesn't obsess over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:28 PM

Spineless and genuinely think of themselves as inferior to everybody instead of equals. There is a difference between being agreeable and yet see themselves as equally important with their partner from being agreeable because they don't see themselves as worthy or important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 01:58 AM

I'm not sure you are actually baiting when you were serious in manipulating people to look at me in a bad way. Ironically, you are now manipulating yourself to believe you were baiting me and I am exploding in your fantasy. Did you grew up in an environment where nobody questions or disagrees with you? This is the only explanation of your behavior and how you revealed of your controlling nature when it comes to private fantasies of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:41 PM

How would you know? Oh that's right you are just telling that yourself so you would feel better imagining that's what is happening. If you hate being manipulated, then don't do the exact thing you hate and manipulate others how they should see another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:05 PM

You went out of your way just to try and manipulate people to be cautious of me. Why don't you take your own advice and chill instead of getting worked up when people disagree with you and point out the flaws in your arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:59 PM
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There is a reason why the age consent was lower in the past. The maturity of younger generation is much lower compared to the older generation that the age consent has to be increased to 18. Arguably, it needs another increase this time and 18 is too low because of how slow kids mature mentally and emotionally these days. If 18 is too young and not adult, then it's worrying that these young adults would someday run society with the same maturity as a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:49 PM
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That's problematic because these young people would eventually run society while having the maturity of teenagers. Society would slowly fall apart when that happens. It's a sign we need to do something so our children actually matures as an adult and not them getting stuck in their childhood phase because life is comfortable and they don't need adult responsibilities to survive. The dating scene is simply showing the symptoms of a deeper problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:04 PM

Everyone you disagree with is manipulating you and everyone you agree with is being honest. That's the logic you are going for. You yourself are trying to manipulate others to think I am a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:53 PM
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My guess with this phenomenon is the simple fact that younger generation are growing up slower in the mental and emotional department. That is, most people at 18 still thinks like a child because society is comfortable enough for them not to move out of their immature phase. In the past, life was hard and children have to grow up quickly especially their mental and emotional state and deal with adult things quickly. I would dare say people at 18 is more mentally and emotionally mature hundreds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:49 PM
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Seeing both side's argument is important for me. I am no pill because I don't subscribe to either and have my own understanding and it helps when both side argue over it. But what I do side with is the idea of bridging the understanding of opposing side and them coming closer towards reaching understanding. This is the whole reason why I am here. Arguments is inevitable but it's better than them staying in their echo chamber and their views go unchallenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:15 AM
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No dude, stop imposing your morals on other people. I am not imposing anything. I am just explaining that seeking variety is normal and it's all about managing it without causing misery on other people. You already can see humans seek variety in everything from food to clothing to entertainment and forcing people to repeat the same thing over and over is not healthy. How do you not see that this also applies to men's libido? Yes 99% still would feel this way. For what reason? Can you rationalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:16 PM
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This in NO WAY justifies the desire for variety as morally ok in our universe Only if it is causing problems which is attention and affection are being diverted somewhere. It's not ok for a man to fantasize other women and obsess over them while leaving his actual partner starving for attention and affection. It's ok for a man to occasionally do so especially during those times when the woman is not in the mood to do anything intimate with the man. Yes and those feelings of pain is from the lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:51 PM
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Yes and the point is that monogamy and jealousy is not a universal truth that makes it moral and a must. It's a simple result of limitations and if you can somehow overcome those limitations as a human, then seeking variety isn't something immoral. If the man is able to fulfill his duty as a partner, why is it bad if he seeks variety by fantasizing other women on some occasion? Is it bad when you crave for a different dish every night instead of eating the same food over and over?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:37 PM
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Jealousy is also normal and it's the result of subconscious knowledge that resources and affection is limited. You subconsciously know that when someone like another, you get less attention and affection from them which is why you get jealous. It doesn't change the fact that in a perfect world this feeling of jealousy wouldn't exist because you have no need to compete for affection despite sharing it with multiple partners. Monogamy and jealousy is but a result of limitations of reality but it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:06 PM
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Ask men again if they would love their wife if they are denied of sex. I'm sure most would eventually resent their wife if they can't have sex with them and even push them to cheat with other women. I also like women in general but I can't deny the fact that sex is a big part of that. Marriage without sex is hollow and incomplete for me as a man with libido and most men have libido to care about sex. Why marry if you don't care about having sex with them? You can simply be friends and that shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:47 AM
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Men are honest but not brutally honest that they would admit that they love their wife because she provides sexual relief. I'm sure most men, if not all, would agree that a big part of loving your wife is the sex part unless you are physically incapable of doing so. I would count that as the counterpart of women loving men for what they can do because men love women for what they can do to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:45 AM
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Meanwhile, men answering the same question tend to say things like “I just love her,” “I feel peaceful around her,” “she is herself,” “I am drawn to her.” I have a feeling that this is simply a subtle and polite way of saying they love their wife because of her body. It's quite rude and offensive to be honest in saying you love your wife because she sexually satisfies you in bed compared to women being honest about what their husband can do that isn't sexual. I am not saying men are lying about …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:57 PM
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Some people are able to tell fantasy from real life and this is the explanation for the apparent contradiction. Anime women are not real and they are the idealized version of a woman with no drawbacks nor can they be harmed. Real women have flaws and can be harmed which explains why one can like loli while rejecting actual minors. Fantasy rape has no permanent consequences. You can literally create a fictional woman who never suffers from any trauma despite being repeatedly raped or just create …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:06 AM
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A partner in life. That partnership ranges from having a best friend to bond over things to being degenerates in bed. I am not repeating my mistake of not being a responsible partner like my first relationship so either I git gud or remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:47 AM
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Saying "all" implies women as a monolith. I'm pretty sure women with as much libido as an average man and sex toys not being enough exists. Rather, women who prefers to be single shouldn't be forced to be in a relationship because of expectations. The same goes with men about needing a partner when they have other interests that takes too much of their time to bother with it. There is nothing wrong with seeking variety. The problem is spending your energy and time on variety seeking at the expen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:21 AM
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If you are failing to find a partner and being miserable over it, why continue to do so? I'm sure you would agree forcing people to bend to your will so they are forced to be your partner is out of the question. What you have though is your self control on how you feel with singlehood. Either you continue to be miserable with it or you see singlehood in another perspective like freedom from responsibility in keeping a partner happy and having all your time and money to yourself instead of consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:16 AM
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Monogamy exists for practicality because resources are finite whether it be financial or the wellbeing of a person. In a perfect world where resources are unlimited, I'm pretty sure monogamy would be a foreign concept. So it all comes down to whether someone is practical and would indeed favor monogamy or give in to their base instinct that finds monogamy as foreign. I favor monogamy for practicality. I don't have the time, energy, and resources to juggle with multiple partners and keep all of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:14 PM

The thing is their perception matters on the success of the approach which is why I don't find cold approach effective. Would people open up to you if they see your approach as desperation to get laid? I would guess not which is why approaching people behind actual legitimate reason like being friends or just coworkers having a casual chat on things has better chance of making bonds with one another in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:49 PM

I guess it makes sense for a new person to cold approach everybody to introduce themselves and actually feels natural. Sadly, that doesn't feel that way in the modern age where cold approach is seen as desperate men wanting to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:35 PM
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AI will eventually progress enough for it to replicate human behavior. When that happens, complaining about incompatible partner will be a thing in the past. The problem will then shift to the survival of the human race because we would prefer perfect AI partners over imperfect humans ones. But as of now, there is nothing wrong with it if it means it alleviates loneliness of men being unsuccessful with women. Mocking people over it is no different from mocking people using electric shopping cart…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:16 PM
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Maybe relative to you especially if you are equally assertive but men in general are assertive and less common among women. Men who doesn't know what they are doing would indeed be better followers. But women who aren't assertive enough to catch the attention of others and them following isn't any better as a leader. Leading in general is a masculine thing to do but being a good leader is gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:00 PM
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I would say most men are masculine enough to be assertive and lead. Whether they are a good leader or not is not something that comes with being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 06:42 PM
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I never believed cold approach is a good idea. Cold approach feels forced and desperate over some natural approach because of actual reason and developing the relationship from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:20 PM
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It's less of the gender and more of the natural personality of men which is masculinity like assertiveness. To be a leader, one must be assertive so people will actually listen and not simply ignore you. Women can also lead if they have the personality to do so. That said, it takes more than just assertiveness to lead and should also know what they are doing. But in general, men are naturally inclined for it because of their natural personality as men. That doesn't mean all men are fit to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:15 PM
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Default norm is we have sex drive. Our rational thoughts is why our sexual desire is suppressed and do not cause any harm on another. This is good but it also results to a more suppressed enjoyment of sex with a loved one or in fantasy. When you are with a loved one or within the safety of fantasy, you can afford to let loose and break the restraint of reasoning and just let your sexual desire run free and this in turn results to an unrestraint enjoyment. This is the concept behind CNC. Again, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:16 AM
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You are not abnormal. You just need to understand that we are still animals with primal instincts and desire. Just as we have primal desire to survive, we also have primal desire for sex and procreation and CNC is that primal desire within the safety of consent. Nothing wrong about not being into it but please understand why CNC is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:50 AM
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That's part of your personality. It doesn't mean others are like you. Do you accept that humans are animals with instinct within them? Driven to the extreme, humans will act like animals. CNC is a glimpse of that animalistic desire in a controlled manner so nobody is harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:52 PM
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Not necessarily. In a perfect world, there is no such thing as rape and only surprise and rough sex with people you are interested in. Since our world isn't perfect, rape exists when sex happens with a person they have no interest in at the wrong time outside their comfort zone. CNC fantasy is a perfect world where "rape" isn't actual rape but simply looks like it at a casual glance. Just as no man actually want a real tsundere that acts mean and violent as a form of affection, no women that fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:58 AM
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CNC is tapping within the primal desire of humans as animals to procreate. The bad thing with actual rape is that it does harm because of aggression but CNC is a controlled one without the negatives of actual rape. I prefer the consensual kind of lovemaking because it fills me with positive emotions but there are rare instance where the desire to just let it all out without holding back for the other is the most pleasurable one. In short, CNC is about letting loose without the harm involved. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:09 PM
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Having grown up in a household where a woman served as my father figure, I am indifferent with it. On one hand, I understand the perspective of most men as being the head of the house. However, I also experienced the perspective of a woman being capable of doing what men usually do and that includes physical labor and strength which my family depended on. I guess the most important is about men being paired with women that matches their preference when it comes to gender roles. It's preference a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:41 AM
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Because they are seen as undesirables that they are unable to have a partner. If they are desirable or "manly" enough to convince a woman to partner with them, then they would be married and getting laid. Otherwise, undesirable or not "manly" and this is part of the reason why men desperately want to get laid other than their own libido. This is also part of what contributes to the loneliness of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:02 AM
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The fix is to teach the younger generation self control and restraint. The whole problem is the result of men wanting relationships and them not getting it causes problems and suffering because they expected getting what they want when they want. The same applies to women that are used to demanding things and either getting it or punish someone for not getting it for them. This is a much simpler solution and falls on the responsibility of the parents. The reason why the government is trying to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:43 PM
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I am a spiritual person, so yes. My very existence (and everyone else's) affects everyone around me and I make sure it is a positive one which is why I hold a positive attitude. Ignoring the suffering of others is ignoring my own happiness which is why I desire that the rift between men and women be bridged because I don't enjoy seeing both men and women suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:15 PM
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You can take the best advice on how to sell fish and the best spot in the market and yet you would still fail if you are selling them to those who wanted to buy vegetables. It's all about finding those who wanted to buy fish for you to start selling them. The same concept applies when it comes to finding relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:46 PM
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I am spiritually inclined so I am not afraid. I would be afraid without that spirituality. Whatever is in store for me in the future I am sure I can handle it whether I will have a partner or alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:06 AM
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It depends. For most of us, our parents are irreplaceable because we love them as much as they love us. For some, they can be replaced with someone better because they are bad parents who does not love their children. In the same way, your compatibility with another determines whether you are replaceable or not. If you are with someone who did it out of practicality or necessity, you can easily be replaced by someone that is much better when it comes to that practicality. But being with someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 06:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure married men that settled would call their marriage as happy simply because they aren't anymore a loser in the eyes of society and not because they are genuinely happy with their partner. I'm sure you would agree that it doesn't take much to make a man happy considering a lot of men confess that a woman giving them a friendly greeting is enough to make them happy for a long period of time. So it's not really surprising that married men consistently report being happy when most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 06:40 AM
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I would assume less stress from taking care of a husband and children especially if that partnership is a result of practicality and societal expectations and not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:47 AM
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Being funny helps a lot in making a person like you more. Think of it like food and the proper ingredients must be present at the exact amount. Missing just one will make it taste off even if the rest of the ingredients are present. I would say being funny is like a spice and missing it makes it taste bland and unappetizing for most people though some wouldn't mind without it. If your only ingredients are the spice, nobody is going to eat it except some very odd minority. If you have everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:37 AM

If you’re tall, broad-shouldered, and have sharp bone structure, the world gives you feedback that reinforces confidence. I have none of these and yet I am confident. Why is that? It's your own mindset that dictates whether you would be affected by how others sees you or not and your environment also dictates that. I got respect not because of how I look but because of how I treat others. I don't need others to fear me for them to respect me because I do so by being able to relate to them and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:07 AM
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It's not about being a lone wolf but about being independent. Just because you are able to do things for yourself doesn't mean you don't want your parents around you. If the need for external validation is causing you suffering, why continue to do so instead of being independent and the only validation you need is yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:58 PM
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Bisexuals seem to stand out from LGBT because straights will insist you are gay/lesbian and yet gays and lesbian will insist you are straight because you supposedly can't be attracted to both the same and opposite sex at the same time. Their flexible orientation is certainly advantageous in seeing different perspectives and understanding the much more rigid sexual orientation. I find them very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:31 AM
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I also believe men in general are not out to exploit anyone and the minority that do speaks the loudest and most visible. Still, we should keep in mind that sometimes men can be tempted to abuse power dynamic even if they initially don't want to like how one starts as a proper leader but power corrupts them into being a tyrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:06 PM
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If it's consensual, then I don't see any problem with that. Consensual means that the other party is aware of the situation they are in and consented to it. Different from power dynamic abuse where the other party is coerced because of that difference in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:57 PM
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There is no rational reason why you like someone. You just do. This is deep compatibility when it goes so deep that you don't even understand why you like them. With it, you are blind to things like power dynamic which requires awareness of a gap and using it to take advantage of someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:49 PM
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Why so hostile? I am just clarifying my stance about preying being about the power dynamic gap and doesn't apply when there is genuine affection between partners regardless of any gap between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:02 PM
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Libido isn't a problem. It's the lack of self control and restraint that is the problem. I have strong libido myself that I would fail NNN on day one if I ever try and yet I don't find myself trying to get women at all cost because I know how to manage that libido on my own. What society has failed in is teaching the young restraint and self control. This is the mark of an adult and yet society continues to push the idea to demand what you want and get it instantly like a toddler crying for food…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:00 PM

This is because women are hard to come by, so we as men naturally gravitate towards women who show us interest, so long as she checks a decent number of our boxes. This is a massive flaw of men that needs fixing. Going by this mentality mean that it's very likely to find someone that has better compatibility than your current partner and leads to cheating and the regret of settling which then leads to conflict with the woman. This mentality is also the result of desperation because of both socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:44 PM
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I would consider "preying" if the man is not looking for a genuine partnership and more of a nonconsensual master-servant dynamic from that age gap. Otherwise, age gap is no more problematic than financial gap or height gap. It's understandable that people would be cautious about relationship with age gap but to insist all age gap relationships are bad is an exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:04 PM
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It's only cucked if you continue to desire someone who has lost interest in you and has moved on to another. Is a man a cuck if he left the woman on his own accord and the woman found another lover? Is a man who has left countless woman out of boredom a cuck if all of those women found other men after him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:57 PM
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Confident on who you are. You don't see yourself as an inferior being but someone that has good qualities that some women would find attractive. Without confidence, you would see yourself negatively and would not accept you have anything good that women would like in you. That mentality would negatively affect your interaction with women and would hinder any successful relationships. Confidence does not mean being arrogant that all people would find you attractive. It's simply having a foundatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:42 PM
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A less antagonistic thing to say is that men needs to understand that happiness can be found in a lot of ways and not just through women and getting laid. Men have been conditioned that getting laid is how you prove your worth and achieve true happiness and this is what drives desperation of men to get laid which in turn drives some women to abuse that desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:17 AM
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We all need money to survive. The point is about relating to others. A woman in dire need for money cannot say no to someone who has one. Lucky for her if that money is from someone who genuinely loves her but not if that money is simply a lure towards a kind of slavery and servitude. Women in the west are rude and rambunctious If you are going to make western women a monolith, I can say the same with western men being disrespectful towards woman and all they can think about is getting their dic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:21 PM
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It's not about virtue but it tells about your own aptitude in relating with others. If you have to use wealth to get people to like you, then that's a few steps towards prostitution. If so, why not just hire prostitutes in your own country or even overseas where prostitution is legal instead of pretending you are looking for love? Why do you have to drag others trying to survive and using that to satisfy your own? Like I said, finding love in a foreign country is perfectly acceptable and a bless…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:54 PM
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Nothing wrong with finding love in a foreign country. The problem is about passport bros trying to take advantage of foreign women either through money or cultural differences. Providing a better life to the woman you genuinely love is great but providing a better life for a woman in exchange of them becoming your sex slave isn't. The woman basically exchanged one type of hell to another. Considering that most passport bros are searching in foreign countries because they are too inept in finding…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:06 PM
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Very nice, now go back and read the second part of the argument where I explained why this response is incorrect. Online people are part of society. You can't just selectively choose which people gets to be part of society. The fact remains that online people are part of society and their true colors show that the idea of men's worth and happiness being tied with getting laid is alive and well. Fair but you can't claim that a subjective issue is a societal issue. Society injected ideas into men …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:48 AM
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Then I guess that explains why the OP doesn't understand the intricacy of personality mattering the most. The OP thinks that either looks matter or only personality matters without the nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:40 AM
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It is but people are more unhinged and emboldened becouse of the lack of social barriers Which means they are showing their true colors and their true colors is that they see celibate men as inferior. Offline, they are forced to moderate themselves because their identity is known and what they say to others may not necessarily reflect what they actually believe. Yeah, boomers do that. That mindset didn't go away overnight because it still exists among the majority of the population. This is exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:59 AM
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Online interaction is an extension of society. I have offline interaction of a coworker old enough to probably not care about the internet pushing me to have a partner. Society is not a monolith but the majority of it still puts pressure on men to get laid. If societal pressure to get laid does not exist, then male loneliness wouldn't exist because men wouldn't feel they are treated differently for being single. The fact it is real for some shows majority of society isn't indifferent and leans t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:16 PM
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There is a minimum physical threshold but after that personality matters. Having a good personality while meeting that minimum requirement makes you more attractive than someone good looking with a bad personality. I'm sure men also think this way when it comes to women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:27 PM
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Still, society has yet to come to a point where it is indifferent about singlehood with men. At this point, society is still expecting men to get laid or else they are deemed as failures. I have first hand experience of people that treats voluntary celibacy as equally bad as inceldom and implying getting laid is the only acceptable solution to inceldom and not becoming a volcel and gaining a positive and healthy mindset from it. So we are ways from society not pressuring men to get laid and them…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:05 PM

Either the current generation regressed to childhood of boys vs girls or the current generation never left childhood and the boys vs girls mentality remained. Considering how easily influenced and sensitive the current generation is to offensive content, I would lean towards the latter. Quite troubling if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:14 AM
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You know yourself that you are not getting laid and you know that you are a failure for not getting laid. Whether someone else knows about it or not is irrelevant because there is one that knows and that is yourself. You are your own judge and holding the idea that either you get laid or you are a failure is what pressures men to get laid and intimate relationships being considered as the pinnacle of happiness. It's not male entitlement but something society has convinced most men on what makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:00 PM
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Society has put pressure on men to get laid or be seen as failures. That needs to change because men believes the only way to happiness is to have a partner and everything else does not matter. This is what causes loneliness because a simple friendship cannot solve cravings for intimate and romantic relationship. That doesn't mean swearing off intimate relationships. Rather, relationships is something that should naturally form between compatible people without it being forced in an attempt to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:56 PM

Dodge implies avoiding and equivalent to doing the rejecting. If a man gets rejected, he didn't dodge but rather the bullet missed entirely. It's more appropriate to say he got lucky if the woman isn't compatible with him and would have made his life miserable if they got into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:05 PM
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It's the same phenomenon with men especially with fictional characters like anime girls. They thought they like a certain archetype personality like a "tsundere" which is basically a girl having trouble showing affection by being mean and even violent towards them. It only works in fiction but not in real life. I would assume women also have an idealized version of men being emotionally available but the real version isn't as perfect as their ideal one. In short, they weren't lying about what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:58 PM
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People realizing everything is subjective and it's about meeting your compatible partner. Prude meets prude. Promiscuous meets promiscuous. Asshole meets asshole. Shallow meets shallow. You get the point. As of now, most insist everyone should have a personality compatible with them so they have easier time picking rather than look for it. Obviously, it isn't going to work because either you force everyone to have your preferred personality or them forcing you to have their preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:19 PM
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The irony of calling someone a "fascist" is that they themselves likely hold such mindset. Someone with a perverted mind would see sexual perversion in all things no matter how innocent it is. Someone with a fascist mindset would see the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:08 PM
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You read so you know if you are compatible at the personality level and saving time wasted trying to feel each other out. If you don't read, then that's a reason you should be rejected because you are just in for the physical appearance and compatibility is an afterthought. Choosing through appearance alone for a hook-up is one thing and acceptable but not if you are looking for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:46 AM
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This question feels like asking whether you would choose vanilla or chocolate ice cream. It's a preference thing and none is superior over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:40 AM

Finding love abroad is one thing but finding partners abroad so you can abuse them for being lax on their standard is another. If the only reason to find love abroad is so you can endlessly make demands on your partner because you hate the idea of consensus between partners, then nobody is going to tolerate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:42 PM
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As long as they are compatible and genuinely love each other, there is nothing wrong with it. The idea of age gap being bad is simply an assumption and caution which works as a rule of thumb but does not necessarily apply to all relationships. I know such case myself of an age gap that big and yet they have healthier relationship than the woman's exes who were closer to her age. What draws them is simply preference and compatibility. You don't need reason to explain why because they just feel th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:35 PM
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Men value sex because it's part of male biology to seek out a female. If men do not feel compelled with it from that biological instinct, men would not force the issue about sex being scarce because of women being selective. What amplifies the issue is societal expectation of men being highly regarded if they have high body count. Between natural instinct and societal expectation, no wonder men value sex so much. I would argue it's not a flex that men will have sex with anyone while women are pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:50 AM
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They have no need to talk shit about me behind my back because they are upfront pushing me to get laid and I simply told them it's not my priority at the moment. Again, adults aren't as obsessed about that as teenagers are because they have lived life and knows there are more important things to worry about than virginity. Do you remember when you were a kid and wanted to grow up quickly so people would respect you? Losing your virginity is one way to that. When you are an adult, you don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:46 AM
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Adults don't care about virginity because there are more important things to care about than that. Quite a few knows I am a virgin and I am not treated any differently simply because I don't feel sorry for being one. I don't give a shit that I am one and neither others. Last time I remembered someone cared about virginity was back in high school when sex is considered as the peak of human activity because it was a novel concept for teenagers and the onset of puberty. Any adult who still have tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:05 AM
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It's the different mindset of men and women that makes men experience rejection more often. Men felt pressured to have a relationship with women or else they are failures in life. The end result is countless rejections all because they take the chance one of those women would say yes to them. On the opposite end, women aren't nearly as pressured although that is starting to change as men tries to pressure them to be married or die as an old cat lady. So in the end, it's about men giving in to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:36 PM
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Attractiveness is like blood type. Type O is a universal donor while AB is a universal recipient. They only vary in availability and there is no such thing as superior blood type. In the end, it's the compatibility that matters and not the commonality or rarity of that type. Same with how some humans are attractive to the majority while some are attracted to the majority because it all comes down to compatibles meeting one another. It simply affects the likelihood of them meeting together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 10:09 PM
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Minimize the danger by not encouraging men to form parasocial relationships. It may result to lower viewership but those missing viewership can be these dangerous people who obsess with online personalities. Just as women are not a monolith of manipulative and money hungry people, men isn't a monolith of responsible and sane beings because there will always be outliers that thrives on being encouraged by outside influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:02 PM

Those insults flew over my head and never hit me because I understand myself better than anyone else. Maybe it applies to a group of men out there but certainly not with me. I feel the most attracted when I know a woman at a deeper level and feel indifferent or shallow attraction if I barely know them. In short, it doesn't bother me because they are not talking about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:27 PM
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Which is why I commented on the off topic part because it is off topic and just a comment about the use of gay as insult which is simply disrespecting the self identity of someone. You have no need to explain because you have no explanation to begin with and I understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:24 PM
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Disagree all you want but that wouldn't explain transwomen being offended being called a man if there is nothing wrong with being a man. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:17 PM
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Maybe some but most are just using gay to offend the self identity of someone like how calling a transwoman a man would offend the transwoman. Nobody thinks man as a gender is bad but it is offensive nevertheless because it contradicts the identity of the transwoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:11 PM
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You mean calling someone gay to offend them? Am I wrong in saying they say that to offend the self identity of someone? Would you agree calling someone as a man who identify as a woman is offensive despite the fact there is nothing wrong with being a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:07 PM
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A lot of people miss the fact that being called "gay" doesn't make gay as a gender bad. Rather, it is an attack on identity meant to offend someone. It's equally offensive to call a gay man straight without straight as a gender being bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:50 PM
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Depends on the person. Some men seek approval of other men by laying with beautiful women but some men seek approval of the pretty women themselves and getting laid is the approval they seek. The latter does not care about bragging because what matters happened between them and their partner. So it would be inaccurate to say all men wanting to get laid is about stroking their ego when some of those men are simply seeking pleasure with laying with pretty women and have no interest with bragging i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:42 AM
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Not exactly because full body pleasure is different than just masturbating. I won't argue against the idea some men do it for ego but men chasing women for pleasure do exist. If I don't attach sex to emotional attachment, I would certainly do it for pleasure and keep those experience as private.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:49 PM
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It really depends on the personality. If a woman is touch feely with everyone, then it means nothing. If someone likes you, then they are more likely to want spending time with you. Them being touchy feely isn't a requirement to show interest because that is part of personality trait that differs with everyone. So it can be obvious simply by interaction of them wanting to spend time with you when given a choice to do something else. Someone who is indifferent would choose to do something else ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:18 PM
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I am arguing so why shouldn't I? Men feel their problems are worse because they want to believe they had it worse by emphasizing on the problem they personally experience while downplaying the problems of women that is outside their perspective. Again, grass is greener on the other side. Think about it this way; women have to constantly make sure the men around them have no malicious intent in befriending them. Having the wrong people around you as a woman can result to something bad like actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:02 AM
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It's not easier when they have to discern compatibility towards them just as men have to discern sexual interest of a woman towards them which is by trying to know them. One worries about being friendzoned while the other worries about being fuckzoned. None had it easier because both equally struggle and they simply struggle in different ways. The grass is always greener on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:11 AM
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And unlike women, he will still have to worry about personality and compatibility, + he will have to pay extra attention to ensuring that she also likes him sexually him. It's arguable that it's the opposite with women in that they have to make sure they are genuinely compatible with one another and not just pushing her buttons right with the goal of getting laid. Being sexually desirable is a given but are they actually compatible and the man is not just showing an act that he would drop the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:56 AM
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As long as they can separate fiction from reality, it's all good. The deal breaker is if they started to impose reasoning that only works in fiction into the real world like morality being black and white when the real world is more of a gray morality. A lot of people these days never seemed to left their childhood fantasy land and is bringing their morality from fantasy land to the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:53 AM
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My whole preference is a result of my past relationship that fell apart because of the lack of communication. Still, I have learned that being empathic towards a woman's need is as important as the need for direct communication because it shows there is a desire to connect that you just know what the other needs without being told.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:52 AM
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The concept of doing something without being asked is a measure of compatibility. If a man does things for a woman without being asked, it is implied they are similar and compatible. That said, completely relying on this method is no different from saying you want the perfect partner and flaws are not tolerated. Women should learn to speak up, men should learn to empathize with another. I would say that communication is important and directly saying what you want is important because it's a fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:46 AM

Probably no expectation from the man she is having casual relation means no pressure and therefore enjoys the partnership more. There is also the honeymoon phase of being with a new partner and making feel everything novel and fresh instead of the staleness of a long time partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:00 PM

Nothing wrong with sex but there is a difference between sex as an expression of love and affection and sex as a way to satisfy libido. Everyone is fine with the former but not the latter which reduces a man to a mindless animal. A mindless animal is selfish and only seeks to satisfy itself and can hurt the other. If taking care of libido is a problem, you can always deal with it by jerking off and some visual stimulation and imagination. So have some tact in expressing your desires and do it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:41 PM
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Isn't this ironic that men that knows bigger boobs = more attractive would ask why bigger dick = more attractive to women? Personally, I prefer big boobs but isn't a requirement for a woman to be attractive. I would imagine the same reasoning applies to bigger dick for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:18 AM
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If women want to talk, then do the approaching. If women want equality, then they are welcomed to do what men usually do when they are interested with someone which is approach. Don't complain if men leaves you alone out of respect of you minding your own business. Loneliness epidemic is another thing and it's about men being pressured to find a partner or else they are seen as failures because having a partner is the only way to happiness. If men realized that they can find happiness without de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:09 PM
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Pretty sure it started as a joke and people started to take it seriously and now you either get laid as a man or you are a failure as a virgin. It also makes sense when you realize that men are assertive especially when it comes to getting laid and not being assertive enough and remaining a virgin makes you less of a man. So I would say based on that and my own experience that men created virgin shaming culture and then blame it on women the moment they see evidence of some women joining in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:22 PM
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True story. It seems the very concept of men not getting laid is so offensive to him that suggesting voluntary celibacy to cure being an incel is worse than death. It makes me think if men are virgin shaming themselves and other men and pressuring each other to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:59 PM
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I would rather remain a virgin forever than lose it with a woman I don't find attractive and ruin that moment. I would imagine quite a lot of men regret losing their virginity to someone they are not attracted to and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:05 PM
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It's only half the advice because showing you are not desperate for women and is focusing on yourself is indeed an attractive trait. Putting up a front of not showing interest when internally you reek of desperation is indeed bad and you would better off being honest about it. It's about self control and showing you are not looking for a mother figure replacement to comfort you as an adult similar to how you cried as a child when you are left at school for the first time because you can't be wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:59 PM
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I'm sure there are women who would virgin shame men but I would think most don't care and is indifferent with it. On the other hand, I recently argued with a man that seems offended virgin men exists and their mission in life is to make sure all men must get laid or else they are a failure in life. Celibacy isn't even an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:07 AM
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Nah. That's like asking if I would accept a delicious meal that I can't eat. I might as well just be friends with her. Even something wholesome like cuddling can lead to something more intimate especially if she is very attractive so it's going to be frustrating if going beyond that is forbidden. Not good for mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:04 AM
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Selling meat to people looking for vegetable is not a good way to sell meat no matter how high quality it is. You sell meat to people seeking for meat. In the same way, impress people looking for certain traits in a man and have those traits. No matter how good you look, you will fail impressing people who doesn't like that certain look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:11 PM
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The longer you are single as a man the bigger red-flag you become in the eyes of women. Only if you have spend that whole time trying to get laid and failing. There is no red flag to raise when that whole time you are just minding your own business as free and single. I would argue men who are single because they are productive and content with their singleness is a green flag as long as it's not a product of being asocial or allergic to social contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:08 AM

Pretty sure it matters as much as big boobs are for women. It's nice to have it but isn't a strict requirement because some can do without them because of personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:01 PM
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Neither. It's not like I need a woman to be happy so I can afford to be choosy. If she can't fulfill my sexual needs, then I might as well take care of it myself without the burden of responsibility in taking care of a partner. If she is going to be absent for most of the time, then she might as well not be there. So the solution to both problem is staying single and solving my problems on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:30 PM
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The fisherman analogy has another flaw and that is the first fisherman learned how to fish by observing the fish itself. The first fishermen have no one to teach them but themselves and they do that by observing the fish. One more thing to consider is that if you ask a fisherman who don't want competition, they will want others to fail and set others to fail and discourage them from fishing. In the end, the most reliable way to learn is self taught by observing the fish directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:38 AM
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That's true but the need for sex is much powerful among males that animals like elephants go on a rampage for not being able to find a female to mate. Humans are no different and it shows with how men insists of loneliness epidemic which is another way of saying they aren't getting laid. A prostitute is not exactly treated in high regards and only the most desperate men would go for it. For most, having a wife is preferred and that puts pressure on men to want a partner both to relieve their lib…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:54 PM
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Low standard and desperation is what makes men put up with women that puts no effort. This is the equivalent of women picking bad boys because men will pick bad women as long as she is hot out of desperation for intimacy or release of their libido. When men have standard and isn't desperate, women have no choice but to put effort if they want men to approach her. If you have a problem with women picking bad boys, don't be a hypocrite by doing the exact same thing. Be picky and pick the good wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:38 PM
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That's good but the fact remains that most men sees virginity at that age as unattractive and that alone puts pressure on them. That's not even counting their desire to have children and their lineage to pass down and this always has been the case throughout human history. Do you agree that most men sees sex as a need and therefore need a partner to satisfy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure men are also pressured to marrying because a 40 yr old virgin is looked down upon in general and men often think of sex as a need and would rather have a below average partner than to stay single and having none.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:18 PM
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Nice guys cling to the point of being annoying, assholes don't and give you space because he is an asshole that barely cares about you. Average man is somewhere in between by giving you space and still shows affection. Be like the average guy. Unless you never knew someone who clings to you all the time because they like you that much, you should understand why assholes are preferable than "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:45 PM
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Pickier simply means women care more about overall compatibility than men that are focused on a narrow compatibility which is looks. Women are perceived to be beautiful because men naturally initiates and looks is what drives men to initiate on women. Women are more reactive and reacts to the initiator and this is why women seems to do all the choosing and even in nature males have to compete for the female's attention while the female decides.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:09 PM

Men do not care if your taller,make more, or if your social class is the same. But men do care for the woman being attractive with her having a pretty face and sexy body and everything else does not matter. It might seem good but that's a recipe for failed relationships because it is possible the man is deeply incompatible with the woman with everything else. Being more picky is advantageous when it comes to long term relationship. Given that fact, "being treated well" seems to be just the minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:24 AM
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Nothing wrong with it as long as they aren't passport bros whose intent is to use wealth gap to lure in women. It's none of our business as long as their partnership is out of genuine love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:01 AM

Maybe it's just enlightenment but I have never think of myself as unlovable ever since. It's simply adapting to what you have and if happiness does not come to you then create your own happiness. My hard work towards self improvement is never wasted no matter what and therefore there is nothing to be depressed about. Being at the mercy of others for you happiness is dependency and I prefer independence and standing on my own because I feel strong when I do so. If I will meet that compatible pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:26 PM
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Why the pressure on women having kids? Raising children isn't exactly easy and nobody is looking forward with the increased effort and expenses for raising one. I'm pretty sure there are a lot more women who are content being single than men who are desperate to get laid and gain respect for not being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:51 PM
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Too perfect can mean putting up a convenient front that seems too good to be true like a conman selling you something and pushing the right buttons to make you buy it. Alternatively, that perfection does not match the perceived flaws of the woman on herself and worries he might be disappointed for being this good and yet he got a flawed partner. As for the question, I haven't found anyone that's too perfect because I always see flaws in them. So, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:29 AM
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Based and hagpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:23 AM
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Have you tried looking for women with similar interest and intent as you? You don't say your fish is terrible when people wanting to buy vegetable ignores you. Try selling fish to people who wanted to buy fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:08 PM
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Perfectly good on what basis? By their self description? You don't get to decide that though because the perspective of other people also matters. You may genuinely find yourself as perfect base on your own standard but that standard does not necessarily exist on other people. Remember, a devout religious person would find themselves perfect based on their moral beliefs and yet they would be a terrible match to an atheist that sees religion as flaw. Is the religious person wrong about their reli…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:48 PM
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So it all comes down to physical preference when it comes to being shallow? Now tell me, how is this any different from straight men turning down a femboy simply because he has a penis and not a pussy? The femboy looks like a woman in everything but lacks a pussy which they cannot change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:49 AM
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Not really because they are part of your identity and personality. Gay men like men, some women like men tall. To say liking tall men is shallow can translate to being straight as shallow since being straight is about the physical body. I'm pretty sure straight men would not fuck a femboy that passes as a woman simply because of their biological body as a man which they cannot change without surgery. Is that shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:03 AM
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If they grow up in an environment where they are put in a pedestal for being beautiful, then they can develop bad personality from it. So it depends on their environment whether their looks dictates how they are treated or their looks is just another facet of themselves and aren't that big of a deal. Same reasoning applies to ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:45 AM
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Still waiting for that to be the norm though. For now, women just wait to be approached and rarely initiates. It's partly the men's fault for being too eager to approach instead of being patient and let women initiate first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:10 AM
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Sexual preference is part of your personality. Do you believe a gay man can just change their preference on a whim so they would like women and not men? Assuming you are straight, would you be able to change your preference so you like same sex and not being able to is simply an excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:40 PM
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The average person has average success and failure in dating which should be 50/50. Funny how this is no different in competitive video games with people complaining how 50/50 winrate is rigged and unfair. People simply expect average should be 90-95 winrate and it seems dating is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:32 PM
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Is your personality as a whole within your control? Most would say it's something you cannot change. Is it superficial to want someone with a certain personality knowing it's outside anyone's control?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:51 PM
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Physical preference applies to both gender. I'm pretty sure there are women out there that wishes they are more beautiful and have bigger boobs or ass to get noticed and yet cannot change that without major surgery. If your partner is a high maintenance woman and cannot keep up, then it's incompatibility and doomed to fail. I'm pretty sure women that only wants decent living exists and won't require 6 figure salary. Instead of looking at top 1% women that can afford to ask 6 figure salary for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:46 AM
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Depends on the woman he is with. It can range from him being left after a week without job or they stick together and the woman picks up a job herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:46 AM
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Everyone's love is conditional on the condition that they are on the same page on what they want with one another. The conditions are subjective and varies between couples but this subjective condition always exists. So the OP is simply stating the obvious and leaving out the side of women also having conditions for their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:50 AM
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I would have to agree that doing those intimate things with a woman without it being romantic is hard. I would imagine you wouldn't do those things to your brother/sister unless you are very close to one another. I preferably would avoid doing it unless I want to be closer to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:09 PM
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No different from men just looking for casual sex. For women who are picky, they wanted a long term relationship and compatibility is important. For most men, the only compatibility they ever need is physical attraction and enough to satisfy their sexual needs. That mentality is what leads to unhappy long term relationship and the reason boomer jokes about their wives being unbearable exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:44 PM
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If you are able to protect another, then do so. It doesn't mean you are forced to protect someone if you yourself are incapable. It applies to both men and women and therefore should protect one another when capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:23 AM
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It's already partly doable through AI and tulpa if you are into spiritual things. I assume synthetic human on that level is basically a human with a metal and plastic body instead of a meaty one. Compatibility is the most important thing in a relationship and if synthetic humans can be created with perfect compatibility with yours, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:21 AM
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That's not a flex though because it means men are willing to ignore pretty much all incompatibilities and focus on a very narrow compatibility which is their physical attraction to the woman. Not a problem for casual sex but it's problematic when it involves a serious relationship. It seems that women are much more careful about having a lot of compatibilities before committing to sex and resulting to a better long term relationship. Getting a woman to cum being difficult is a sign of incompatib…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:30 PM
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She can roleplay however she wants as long as she is happy. Remember that roleplaying during sex is a thing and you become someone that you are not and yet everyone is fine with it. So why not roleplay your chocolates as jewelries and be amused of it? Doesn't that feel like being children again on how you pretend a water gun as an actual weapon and having fun shooting one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:54 PM
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The moment you believe in SMV is the moment you just doomed yourself to hard mode. Humans are not commodity that you buy against their will and value is determined by one side objectively. It's compatibility and it's two way and subjective. What you value less might be valuable for others and what you find valuable can have little value for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:13 PM
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Willingness to move my lazy ass and improve even more. I have my faults and weaknesses that is holding me back and I know I can improve on that. I would have to settle if I stay the same right now instead of the woman I would actually like and I would rather stay single than live a life like that. I am quite average in physical attractiveness so I have no problems with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:07 PM

What does that have to do with wanting my own child because they are more relatable than that of a stranger? Every child is born with a personality and they are related to their parents. Is it wrong to want a child you can easily relate with and them relating to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:21 AM
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I like the idea my kid is an extension of myself and I will live on through them. I'm pretty sure this is what most men subconsciously feel and the reason for the preference for raising their own kid. Although I respect those who adopt kids not their own considering this is what my step father did for me, I prefer raising my own child that would feel much more relatable than someone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:57 PM
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Reading mind translates to empathy and compatibility. When you are compatible and empathic, you just know and it aligns with their thoughts. In short, don't chase after women that are obviously incompatible with you. When you are with someone who is very similar to you, you would do things you know they like without them telling you because you find it relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:25 PM
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It's legal to like furry porn but that doesn't make it more acceptable in the eyes of the majority of people. I would imagine the same applies to legal prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:20 PM
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It's a rough time of transitioning from men shouldering a lot of responsibility and women standing beside men as equals. Give it some time for it to sort it out. I do agree that responsibilities should be blind like justice and does not discriminate between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:30 PM
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I'm personally indifferent. The idea of defiling comes from the fact that men penetrates and therefore changing a part of the woman's body like her hymen and them ejaculating into them and therefore "staining" them. In the bigger picture though none of that matters and it only serves as a source of misery for men to care about things like virginity and body count when the most important thing is compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:23 PM
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Sex is comparable to recreation. It's not a need but it helps make life better. Sex is an outlet of sexual desire but it doesn't mean one has to have sex in order to satisfy it. One can imitate the benefits of sex mentally or even emotionally simply by immersing yourself in fantasy. It's all about embracing the fact what you experience as reality is something you subjectively perceive which is why the fake hand experiment works. Using the same concept, you can create your own reality and immerse…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:24 AM
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One relationship. Beforehand, I struggled with a girl I liked since elementary years up to high school and the constant rejection I endured. Ended breaking up after about 6 years and now single for over a decade. I think 20 was my first kiss and yet still a virgin because back then I am big with marriage before sex. No regrets though of not losing it because I realized it's a subjective construct that causes unnecessary suffering for some people in trying to keep/lose it. I very much desire wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:26 AM

Sexual intimacy is not just about pleasure it is deeply tied to self-worth, confidence, and emotional stability. You can do this platonically. You don't need to bundle it with sex. This is one things most men have trouble doing. People can want you non-sexually like your family and friends while relieving your libido with the help of technology or just plain ol imagination. Sex is as much of a need as recreation like video games. It's good to have it but it isn't needed and can be addictive in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:37 AM
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The visible minority, I would argue. The majority who are not are invisible and minding their own business and not bringing any attention to themselves. That explains why most women you see seems to be shitty because part of their shitty attitude is bringing attention to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:25 AM
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Physical attractiveness is the first impression but what ultimately seals the deal is the personality and how compatible they are with one another. A pious person would want and equally pious person. A shitty person would also want to be with an equally shitty person and if you see a woman enjoying it, then we can say she is shitty that you don't want to be with unless you yourself is a shitty person. So character flaw is subjective because being an atheist is a character flaw for the pious and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:02 PM
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Confidence as in knowing your worth. I don't like people who wallow in self pity and refuse to acknowledge their own worth regardless of gender. Still, there is a difference between confidence and arrogance with the latter having an excessive view of worth on themselves. So I like women who know their worth and knows how to stand for themselves but not arrogant women that thinks they are above everyone and can never be wrong with what they do. Sadly, arrogant women are the most visible and causi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:07 AM
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Age gap should be treated like financial gap. There is a potential of abuse but does not necessarily mean it is abusive. I know a couple with a large age gap of over 20 with the man being older and he is a better partner and a father than that of the woman ex's close to her age that basically pump and dumped her after she got pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:20 PM
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Everyone exploits what they have to get what they want, thats just how the world works and how dating works. Not really. Most genuinely try to find deep connection with one another and it simply works out because of it. PPBs just want an easy lay by exploiting wealth gap and culture difference to get what they want. I have no problem with men finding genuine love in a foreign country and it simply happened during their stay there but not with men that has the sole purpose of exploiting others us…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:54 PM
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Is it still settling if you are still together for a decade? Incompatibilities will always exist between couple so anything less than perfect compatibility can be considered as settling. The more incompatibility between couples, the more miserable they feel. So how do we determine being settled in practice if we assume perfect compatibility is near impossible to achieve and everyone is being settled to a degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:27 AM
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No different from men that would put up with a lot for a hot woman even if her personality is trash and abusive. It's simply human nature of prioritizing physical attractiveness and pleasure and regretting it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:31 AM
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They have to match your shut in personality for it to work. That is, they also must not like going to social events and prefer being alone or with someone they like. If a woman wants something exciting like a social life and you are not able to, then it's a clear mismatch. If you want to understand that concept, try talking to a woman that has no interest with anything you like and barely talks. Would you still want to interact with said woman or would you find her boring and eventually leave he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:48 PM

You can tell the desperate from couples who are genuinely happy with one another. The desperate can barely hide the fact they don't like their partner and even their partner can feel that. I'm pretty sure that is in the minority and a relationship that isn't going to last. For most, they genuinely like each other at least at the average level and can last for many years. Do remember that average people relationship can outlast celebrities that involve the top beautiful men and women because comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

Settling requires your partner to be average looking that you can tolerate or else it would be basically self torture. Nobody in their right mind would want to stick to someone they don't find attractive especially when there are alternatives like porn or even prostitution if your libido is a problem without commitment. Average compatibility is all that is needed for an average relationship to be maintained.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

There is always at least one that is mutually compatible with you. It can be someone on the other side of the world and you will never meet but there is always one that matches their taste with you and yours with theirs. Saying there is no one that matches you is as realistic as saying there is a person in the world that has no single hater. It's simply not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

Ugly in this context means repulsive. If not, then it's simply average which means you don't feel forced to be someone. So why is it so strange people that you don't find attractive has a partner when at worse they see each other as average looking and not repulsive? Average looking can be someone attractive enough that you wanted to have sex with but not attractive enough that you are addicted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

It doesn't change the fact beautiful people are compatible with the majority and explaining the behavior. If it's objective, there would be no ugly couples, period. If you feel you can't stand the idea of being with someone and can't even hide your disgust, that should apply to others as well and yet it's obvious this is not what is happening. 80% of men would go for the sexiest women if they can and would find the rest as average. 90% is not 100% and it's simply statistic that majority prefer b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

If we use all of human population, it's guaranteed you will find at least one compatible partner just as it is guaranteed you will find someone with degenerate tastes among normies. 1000 is too small of a sample. Naturally, both men and women would gravitate towards the attractive upper half and will only pay attention to the partners of their level once everything else was taken. I don't believe men will just get women they can get because they will definitely go for the top sexy and beautiful …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

If people are not numbers, then statistics are useless. Human behavior is ultimately dictated by the laws of physics which can be expressed through number and patterns. Knowing that concept, everyone will always have someone who will like them just as there is no person that is universally like because someone in the world would hate them for no reason other than they just feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 PM

It's completely subjective. What you assume as objective is simply observing what the majority likes. That's like saying men desiring women is objective because this is the observed majority when we all know that men can be attracted to their own gender and forms the minority and therefore the idea of men desiring women isn't objective at all. You can call them messed up in the head but I assume you acknowledge that they genuinely enjoy things you find disgusting, right? Then unattractive people…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:36 AM

Even a prime number has one other number divisible with it other than itself and that is 1. So there is one person in the world who likes you even if you meeting them is not guaranteed. So don't be hard on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:36 AM

Tell me, do people who like scat porn just fake liking it simply because you find it disgusting and assume all people must be the same as you? Or do you accept there exists people who genuinely get off to something disgusting and it's beyond our comprehension why they like it? If it's the latter, why would it be any different between couples that you personally find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:03 AM

It doesn't matter because point still stands. Beautiful people are simple more compatible with a lot more people while ugly people are less. There is always one who will find you attractive and it's simply much harder to meet that person because it's a minority taste and so you can find yourself single for a long time if not for a lifetime. You can find them ugly but you can't say the same with their own perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:47 AM

Are ugly people someone you would be attracted to? If not, then you would be repulsed by it. If you are still attracted to them, then they are not unattractive but simply average which is neither beautiful nor ugly. It's not false equivalence because you know you hate scat and yet there are people who enjoy something disgusting. Are they forcing themselves to like on something disgusting as scat just because you are disgusted yourself? Or are they proof their tastes is simply different from your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:38 AM

If they aren't attracted to each other, they would be repulsed with one another. They would rather be single and jack off to beautiful imaginary women than get stuck with an uggo. The fact they do shows they have tastes you simply cannot comprehend like how there are people who are into scat while vaginal sex is generally liked by the overwhelming majority. You are naive if you think everyone in the world thinks like you. Again, just look at the taste of people in sex and tell me you can compreh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:29 AM

And spare me the BS line "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" because it's a lie. It's not a lie or otherwise you won't find any ugly couples in the first place because they would be repulsed towards one another as you do. Beautiful people are simply more compatible with most people in terms of appearance over less attractive ones. It's like numbers where some numbers are very divisible like the number 12, generally divisible like 10, or a prime and only divisible by 1 and itself. You can say …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:03 AM
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It helps push the boundary. You can be good looking but if you smell like shit all the time, women would either hesitate or avoid you. You can be average looking but if you smell good and looks presentable then you are more likely to catch the attention of women and interact with you. True, compatibility still matters but your compatibility with most people in general improves with proper hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:13 PM
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But if you’re going to overlook a woman whose 28 just to chase someone who’s 20, it starts to look like a number fetish… If the 20 has more compatibility than the 28, then there is nothing wrong with it. If they choose the 20 simply for the age and nothing else, then it's indeed a number fetish and not a good sign because it means they will eventually leave their partner once they got too old. If women that finds older men attractive exists, then men that finds younger women attractive exists to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:52 PM
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So walking down the street minding your own business and then suddenly a dog runs behind you to bite you is not out of the blue? Would you agree you are not at fault in this situation because you didn't endangered yourself in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:25 PM
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It depends. Think of someone bitten by a dog. If they got bitten out of the blue without them being aware, then they aren't to be blamed. But if they get bitten despite the warning against petting the dog, then they are responsible with the outcome. That said, it doesn't justify the mentality "serves them right" because it doesn't help anyone and it is used by people to escape responsibilities of their actions. People have started using "victims of blaming" as a way to shift responsibility away …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:30 AM

Boobies are god's gift to the world 👀. Don't diss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:43 PM
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Deadbeat and most likely cheated on his wife and had me with another woman. Thought he was dead for most of my childhood until I realized the truth later when I'm older so I am mostly indifferent and don't mind carrying his family name. I wouldn't be here if not for him so there's that. My father figure is our helper who is a tomboy and yet is married and had a child. I can say I have picked up a lot of her personality and this is a big reason why I don't see women as weak and can be a protector…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:19 PM

People doesn't necessarily need their lives to be harder. They just simply need to learn how to be resilient and tolerant when dealing with ideas foreign to their values. A lot of people are trying to expand their personal bubble onto others and getting them to adapt their values they deemed to be superior and the result is cancel culture and censorship. I'm pretty sure this same people would be against religious obligation coerced onto others in the name of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:11 PM

That's also a very nice comparison about allergy. People getting worked up over something harmless because they are overly sensitive about it. Something needs to be done at the family level and not the government in order to make sure less people are easily influenced by the things they see online without resorting to draconian censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:18 PM
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If something is unavoidable, then the best thing to do is to build a foundation early so kids are resistant to its negative impact. It's the same concept of the body adapting to its environment of being exposed to filth because it cannot afford avoiding it. Arguably, too clean weakens immune system and diseases having bigger impact and the same can be said with trying too hard to isolate children instead of an earlier foundation of good values. It will only lead to extremely sensitive children g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:38 PM
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Men willing to ignore incompatibilities because the woman is hot is not loving her for who they are. If you truly love someone, you acknowledge everything about her and ignore nothing and that includes incompatibilities and the long term effect it has if you ever get together. Deciding to just wing it and worry about it later is exactly why the boomer joke of them disliking their wives came from. I would believe you only if men has the same standard as women and considers everything about them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure nobody uses bimbo in a positive context. Gigachad has every positive traits of a chad and dialed up to 11. You can see the term gigachad often used on people with overwhelming confidence and charisma that people can't help but like them. This is in the personality context because gigachads in the physical context is simply good looking man with bulging muscles and tall height.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:08 PM
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I understand why women might be uncomfortable, but I don't think the reverse-situation works. Which is exactly what the problem is which is seeing it in the eyes of a man instead of a woman. Would you still say the same if the woman in question is gorlock the destroyer? The thing is that empathy goes a long way and something that is missing with most men that sees the world through the eyes of men and not that of women. The extremist feminist is the opposite and only sees the world through the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:59 AM
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Look at the woman's perspective. Is she there to meet people or to work out? If it's the latter, would you like it if people tried to do the former on you if you are there for the latter? If not, then don't do it. A lot of problems can be solved through empathy and seeing through the eyes of another. That's why interacting with people and learning their perspective is advantageous instead of being closed off and reserved to a very particular view and being ignorant on how others see things. As f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:28 AM
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You can simply boil it down to businesses like prostitution exists because of male horniness. Be honest, loneliness here is about intimacy and not human connection because it's not that hard for the average man to form platonic relationship with anyone. If you are against the idea of men being exploited because of horniness, have some self control and a healthy way to release libido. There is no rule that says one has to have an intimate partner in order to manage libido because one can do that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:45 PM
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In my perspective, it's about being the soul mate. Assuming the man is also celibate, being with a woman who is also celibate is basically finding your other half who remained celibate in search of their half. So purity is somewhat rooted on spiritual concept even if you don't believe in it. On the other hand, an experienced man wanting a pure woman is more about a trophy of being someone's first and some would fall under what OP is saying. That said, it's understandable to know whether a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:27 AM
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Attractive and charismatic. That's what chads are in general but can specifically mean very masculine looking guys who are tall, have visible muscles, etc. The gigachad meme is basically chad on the next level with overflowing masculinity with so much muscle that it makes a regular chad looks average. So it depends on context. For some, chad is a mindset and personality while for others it's about how they look or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:17 AM
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Just a guess, anyone who is horny would fuck anyone and there is also the fact they can fantasize they are fucking a hot girl they saw once. It's terrible but not that big of a deal if they are very compatible outside of sex which is the reason why they are a couple in the first place. That's the worst case scenario. Otherwise, "ugly" is subjective because someone you find ugly might be beautiful in the eyes of another. There are celebrities that I don't find attractive at all that is apparently…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:26 AM
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I do agree that being oppressed does not justify replacing the oppressor because it will simply perpetuate the cycle. If women start oppressing men, men would simply reason they were oppressed and justified to oppress back and the cycle continues between men and women. The solution is ending the cycle of oppression by acting like an adult with restraint instead of children that would push each other back endlessly because they have no self control and can't help but react to each other's actions…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:55 PM
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Compatibility is not one sided. You say you are compatible with her because you ignore incompatibilities which is why she isn't attracted to you in the first place. A girl being attracted to you means there is some compatibility but most aren't. Think of puzzle pieces where the most compatible is all pieces fit while partial compatibility is some pieces fit but most do not. Everything from physical attraction to emotional attraction are based on compatibility and the most important thing in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:21 PM
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"Fewer requirements" or basically ignore incompatibilities as long as she is compatible with some of your preference like how she looks. That is exactly why relationships falls apart when you ignore incompatibilities and just hope the few compatibilities you have will work. It's seems you are saying women prefer that they are mostly compatible if not perfect so that the relationship would last for a long time if not a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:18 AM
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The girl is attracted to you because you are compatible with her. The things you like she also likes and the things she is interested in, you are willing to share it with her. The way you behave fits what she likes about a man and of course she has certain taste in looks that fits with how you look. You can be the typical rich guy with huge muscles but if you are trying to interact with a woman that prefers simple and modest lifestyle and finds an average body attractive, you aren't getting anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:47 AM
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It's never a waste when it comes to testing compatibility. That's like saying every failure of an inventor is a waste. Failure leads to learning which leads to a better outcome next time. The same can be said when a man interacts with a woman which helps the man learn and do better next time if they fail. Warm approach is just skipping steps that you would need with cold approach which is being acquainted. While you need to do it yourself with cold approach, you let other people do it with warm …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:42 AM
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Why be attracted to someone you don't trust? That's another problem which is insecurity leading to clingy behavior. If you don't trust someone, leave them be. If you want to commit with them, it is assumed you trust them enough that they are into you and you don't need to be clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:42 AM
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The problem is that the opposite is a man who is clingy and very emotional. I would say someone who is aloof is more bearable to be around with than someone who is clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:39 AM
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You can find love on an average basis as an average guy. Below average, you are less likely to find one and above average means you are more likely to find one if you are willing to go for the average and below. If we are talking about dating within your level, being average is the best spot because this is where most men and women are. There is always a nonzero chance of a man finding love no matter what and the question is simply about how easy it is to find one. Love is about compatibility an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:13 AM
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Yes, they do try to avoid abusive men. The idea they don't is simply a coping mechanism for men that can't accept the fact they were not chosen and think of themselves as holier than thou that can never do wrong. Being confident and assertive isn't abusive but some think it is because they think that the correct man behavior is themselves that is shy and submissive and anything that doesn't align to that must be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:32 PM
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All I see is desperation on the men's side though if the implication is that fat chicks are not as desirable. Women having to sift through a long line of men saying they are the best pick without tripping on a land mine that is an abusive man is certainly not what I would call no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:38 PM
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"She Only Picks Attractive Men" = NO Solution for Loneliness It is a partial solution because monogamy forces women to pick the best of the best and not settle with men that only meets minimum requirements. A man who could have been with a woman was skipped over because there is someone better than him. With polyandry, he is now included alongside other men that the woman find attractive. You keep saying top 20% when that only applies on monogamous relationships. Without any restrictions, an ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:19 AM
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The rest get obligation (attention scraps). Obligation implies she needed to take them in against her will. She isn't obligated to give attention to men she doesn't find attractive and therefore none of them will ever be in her harem in first place. Every single men in her harem are men she finds attractive enough to invite in and therefore nobody are mere attention scraps. No one is replaceable because the replaceable isn't even in the harem. You can't seem to understand the concept that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:55 AM
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Convenient in what sense? Every man in her harem are all attractive enough for her to give attention to. Otherwise, she isn't admitting you in it and you will never get any. Why even be bothered about "participation trophy" when the point is you are getting some because she finds you attractive enough to share her affection with you? Again, polyandry doesn't mean she is required to take in every men she sees because she still chooses and all you need to get in is to have a minimum requirement. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:17 AM
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A cuck implies you aren't getting some. Remember you are also cucking everyone else in the relationship and therefore cancelling it out. A woman will not admit a man she doesn't want to have sex with in her harem. If you are in it, then you are getting some and all you need to do is to be the minimum that she finds attractive. With monogamy, you have competition and be the best because she can only choose one. With polyandry, you only need to pass a minimum requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:56 AM
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Monogamy is partly the reason for that. If you can only have one partner, why settle for a mediocre when you can go for the best? If a woman is allowed to have multiple partners, then they can accept a wide variety of men ranging from the top down to the average where most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:09 AM
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Variety. Just as one does not like eating the same food everyday for the rest of their lives and wanted variety of meal everyday, one also seeks something different even with women and sex. The reason we are expected to be monogamous is because of our limits when it comes to providing physical, mental, and emotional resources. We cannot give full affection if its split between two people which means it almost always ends up with one being neglected and causing suffering. So at the very least, og…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:22 PM
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They certainly try to gaslit everyone that men are never irrational when in fact they can be as irrational as the women they are complaining about. Both genders have flaws and both accuse each other like the spiderman meme pointing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:22 AM
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Leave aside this they will think a attractive man is good and and then be blind to all his fault finally thinking it all men who are bad and not the man she dated. Men are no better with them thinking an attractive woman being friendly towards them means she is the one and only partner they need and turn a blind eye on her faults. Why else are men so focused on attractive women who obviously has faults and yet keep giving them attention and trying to generalize all women as them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:57 PM
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That's because men usually initiates and women simply reacts hence the different dating advices. If we are going to be neutral about it, then the advice applicable to both is simply find compatibility. Men should find women who are compatible with them and women should entertain men who are compatible with them. Changing for the better is good but even if you can't do that you can still find someone simply by going for compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:03 PM
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I want to learn about the views of other people and to share my own views. It being purple pill suggests a neutral ground for opposing views and I believe the ultimate answer lies in the middle. More importantly, I want to help others struggling and I can only do that if I understand their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:58 PM
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More like Bob was trying to carry Alice in his arms because he is a nice guy that won't let a fair lady walk and get tired and she kicked him in the balls in self defense of his insistence. Bob is either too dense to realize his mistake or he sees himself as an infallible nice guy and can never do wrong and so it was Alice's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:32 AM
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It's not about women but about certain people that doesn't like dealing with emotional weakness. Men are especially known to find it weird or cringe and just tell one another to tough it up and be a man. Women are no exception but that doesn't mean all women are like this and the same applies to men. It's about finding the right woman. If your mom can listen to you, your partner can as well if she is the right one. But I agree that if your partner doesn't like dealing with that, then seek help f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:44 PM
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Being wanted by someone you don't like is worse than never being wanted at all. At least people would leave you alone if you aren't wanted. Now imagine someone with the looks of gorlock the destroyer trying to hit on you and is persistent about it. Would you still wanted that over nobody bothering you? The solution is find a compatible partner. Improving looks do help expand your compatibility but there is always someone compatible with you no matter what because human preference is diverse. Bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:08 PM
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They do. Those that doesn't have no shame talking about it on social media and making it seem that all women do it. The invisible majority that you do not see on social media lead normal lives of just wanting a compatible partner to be with for a long time if not a life time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:08 PM
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Women preferring big dicks makes as much sense as men preferring big boobs. It's a preference for some but not everyone has it and I'm sure most men would agree that even those who prefer big boobs would still find a petite woman with smaller boobs attractive. I know I do. Same reasoning can apply to dick preferences. The loose pussy with use is honestly an immature understanding of how a vagina works. Most would outgrow that idea but some would carry it through adulthood because of ignorance an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:53 AM
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Manage your lustful desires and you'll be fine. That's basically the cause of suffering for incels which is the need to release pent up lust and bundling it with affection in general. You can be affectionate towards other people in a platonic way while releasing your lust on something else and technology offers a lot of option for that. Heck, you can even form a romantic relationship with a fictional character as long as it doesn't negatively affect your social life in general and knows how to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:59 PM

OP obviously never experienced love if they think women or anyone are incapable if it. It exists in the form of compatibility beyond just sex. If you can stand to be with someone even without sex, you have deep connections with them. Sex is just the overflow of that connection. If women marries for reason other than love, then they would feel miserable and would simply cope. This is obviously different from how we see a typical couple where the woman is obviously happy and no coping is involved.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:16 AM
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It doesn't change the fact that men claims they find women problematic and yet keeps throwing themselves towards the problem and making the problem worse. Therefore, men also don't know themselves or know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:41 PM

You know who else are easily offended? Little kids. Just tease them with something harmless like that their nose is too big or too small and you can guarantee they would get offended and even cry over it. It's understandable when kids do this but should adults be the same with how something as shallow as physical appearance can cause being offended? The point is that you cannot control how others think and how they interact with you. You can only control yourself and how you react to them. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:59 AM
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Romantically lonely. I am lonely in a romantic sense but having friends fills in that void and distracts me. Kind of like having hobbies distracts you from the fact you are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:02 PM
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Nah, men also say they can go their own way and survive without women and yet continue to act like women are like oxygen that they can't live without. Truly strange creatures men are and the way their mysterious mind works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:23 PM
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Men complain about women and yet they continue to give women attention and crave for their attention. Can we say men also don't know themselves or know what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:39 PM
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Not all men wanted emotional connection. They just see a hot body that they want to use for sex. That's objectification. They don't care what happens to the woman during or after sex and rapists basically objectify women because of that. For most of us men, we see women as humans and there is something beyond the physical appearance and we desire a deeper connection because of it. Granted, there are people that mistake physical attraction as objectification without understanding that one can fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:34 PM
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Self control so you have a healthy outlet of your emotions instead of giving in to your urges that may harm other people will definitely make you happier. Bottling your anger isn't going to help you but releasing that anger harmlessly like on inanimate objects or shouting it out to the ocean will definitely help you. The same concept with lust. You don't bottle in the lust you feel but rather find way to release it without harming anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:54 PM
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For men to become lustless is as futile as for humans to be incapable of anger. That's simply not possible. The best option is managing desires and emotions so they don't harm anybody. With proper management, lust does not become an obsession for women but a simple passing urge that is easily dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:25 AM
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Self control is a mental state that is expressed physically. Self control is why people don't try to murder people they hate. Kids are easy to provoke because they have little to no self control and not teaching kids to do so will result to an adult that is easily provoked and offended. A healthy adult have been taught from childhood to show restraint and it results to an individual that isn't easily provoked or fall into addiction. You can definitely control yourself and to say you can't do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:01 AM
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With that reasoning, you can't blame a murderer for killing people because that's just how they feel. Trying to make an alcoholic sober is pointless because that's just how they are without self control of alcohol. Do you see the flaw with that reasoning? Self control is something you develop the more you do it just like you become physically strong the more you exercise. To say you can't be strong because your body is just that way is not an excuse. Same goes with self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:26 AM
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Self control. That's it. I have a healthy libido and desire women but I am not desperate for a partner to relieve it. It's about managing the outlet so it doesn't negatively affect other people. Take anger for example. Anger is inevitable and impossible to avoid. When you are angry, you want to hurt other people physically or verbally. Yet, we have ways to manage it whether it be through stress balls, special places where you can vent your anger on inanimate objects, or just venting your anger i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:59 PM
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If they won't fully commit, then it's simply weak compatibility and only at a shallow level. A deep compatibility will always result into commitment regardless if they abstain from sex or not. It's more like being given free food that is bland. You would accept free food but not commit by spending money to buy more of it. If you really like the food, you are willing to spend more money for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:48 PM
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I don't like the idea of giving a woman I am not attracted to a chance out of pity so I accept the same standard of women not giving men a chance out of pity. Go for someone you are attracted to. It's much better that way than a man being pitied and the relationship ends up being one sided and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:44 PM
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I think you didn't take into account women that just can't be bothered with men because of the equally negative perspective or simply being content. While the man is incel, his counterpart woman is a volcel and living a carefree life of being single. There are also incel women who are too unattractive even for an incel man to take notice. So the assumption here is that women are as thirsty as men and I would argue that the thirsty women are the visible minority and the majority are just minding …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:46 AM
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None because I am enjoying the carefree life of being single while it lasts. I also don't like talking to strangers so I still wouldn't do it even if I am looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:34 AM
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The whole reason why men and women are pressured to find partners is because of the mentality that if you don't have irl partner, you are a loser. If people just accept that preferring fictional characters is no more different than preferring to be single, then there is nothing wrong with it. Think about it because fictional characters will always beat real people when it comes to compatibility because you can shape the character to however you want and is basically a perfect match to you. Isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:48 PM
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This is less about average guy vs bad boy and more about compatible vs non-compatible. You are more accepting to advances when you like a person regardless if they are "bad boys" or not. I'm pretty sure even guys would think the same way when it involves girls that they find attractive vs girls that they don't find attractive. OP should really stop and think for a second about reversing the situation and maybe they would understand why this is the case. In fact, a lot of complaints are easily so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:58 PM
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Nah, I just became more aware some women are into me while my younger self is too dense to realize it. What I noticed is the change in my own personality with age and I would say I would fare better in a relationship this time around than I did more than a decade ago. Other than that, it's pretty much the same as always probably because I don't look my age and people mistake me as someone younger than I really am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:59 PM
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Nah, they ain't compatible with me then. The point of marriage is to be with someone you are compatible with. I can be friends with them though and that's basically what platonic friends are which is a nonsexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:14 AM
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I would agree that one needs to show that they aren't an asexual person that has no interest in sex for them to get noticed. Even in my perspective as a man, I find it hard to sexualize women who are prude and can only see them as friends. I find women who are a bit vulgar and open to lewd topics to be more interesting and attractive. The tricky part is how you show that sexual part of yourself without it being creepy. I guess it starts with hanging out with women that aren't prudes and sexual r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:25 AM
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Why not both? Both side are trying to take advantage of the other and that is never good. It all comes down on who loses control and leaving the other in despair. From my understanding, passport bros travel to take advantage of women elsewhere and them being taken advantage of in return is simple karma. They reap what they sow. That said, there are foreigners that travel for reason other than looking for women and they don't deserve to be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:53 PM
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There are many kinds of love and recently I realized sometimes just seeing them happy is enough for me regardless if I am the one making them happy or not. I guess the only difference between platonic and romantic is the desire for intimacy. In both cases, you want them to be happy because them being happy makes you happy. When you only consider your own happiness and not theirs, then it isn't love but rather it is selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:29 AM
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Isn't that the whole point of courtship which is to test the waters between partners? One has to initiate that test and then the two are supposed to find any compatibility between them during courtship. If there is little to none, then they go their own way. If there is a lot of compatibility, then they become partners. Even the top percentage of men still has to know whether they are compatible with the woman unless they don't care about forming a meaningful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:22 AM
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I would say that having an average body that is neither jacked nor fat but, most importantly, healthy is the most common preference. It seems that jacked men are a preference of some very attractive women which is why some think this is the body all men should strive for. You don't need a super attractive partner as long as they are attractive enough and a lot of compatibility with your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 10:28 PM
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That's right, it is neutral and it depends on the person itself. I agree that confidence itself shouldn't be seen as either good or bad but something neutral that depends on who holds that confidence. Still, having confidence is better than not having it at all and we can say is one of the basic part of attracting other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:51 PM
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It's no different from a knife being a tool used by murderers to kill. Confidence itself isn't bad and is an indication that one isn't a push over. Confidence is about knowing your worth without being arrogant. You are confident you are attractive enough that some women would like you but not arrogant to think no woman can ever reject you. So I don't think it's fair to antagonize the concept of confidence among men when it's no more harmful than a knife that depends on who is holding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:27 PM
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In short, act like an adult with restraint instead of having the mentality of a horny teenager salivating from the sight of women like a hungry animal. This is a problem I noticed that some adults never fully matured mentality and have trouble dealing with the adult world. They have little to no restraint of their emotion and easily offended like how it's easy it is to make a child cry or provoke them. This applies to both men and women. Adults that have restraint on their emotions and urges are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:13 PM
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Two reasons, being the special first and the desire for that tightness of a virgin. That's the real reason behind the desire for virgins. It stems from our childish nature of wanting to be special by being the first and from the assumption that experienced women are loose and unsatisfying. Everything else is an attempt to make it reasonable. I went through this phase and found it only messed with my head and dropped it after making me suffer for so long worrying about it. If you think about it, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:55 PM
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I mean...that's not saying much given that Incels have a horrible reputation to begin with. It's a lot when you are either seen in a negative light or indifference at worst as a volcel. That is many times better. As I have said, being a genuine volcel means you are happy whether you get laid or not. So what if you never get laid? You are able to find your own happiness by realizing that happiness does not revolve around women. Besides, there are women that do not mind the lack of experience as l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:12 AM
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Relative to being an incel, it's a positive. Volcel means you have accepted celibacy and do not lose sleep over it and you aren't miserable. Being an incel means your life revolves around trying to get laid and failing. You can clearly see which one is more pathetic than the other. I'm pretty sure public perception of being a volcel is generally positive while being an incel is a negative. At the very least, you can improve your public perception by being a volcel and an increased chance of find…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:19 AM
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A man who is a volcel because he genuinely can find happiness on his own would be evident to others. A reminder that most women can relate to the idea of contentment behind being single and it is with men that mostly thinks that sex with women is the ultimate happiness. Besides, why even care what others think about you being single as long as you are not doing anything bad and harming others? I'm pretty sure people are more likely to like you this way than someone that is obviously desperate to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:58 PM

Yes but that doesn't change their birth sex just as MJ is still black despite bleaching his skin white. This is an objective fact. One does not need to be a woman to be feminine because they are separate. So there is nothing wrong in saying a man is feminine and passes off as biological woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:41 PM
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Then the solution is to be a volcel and nobody will ever accuse you of being a loser. Voluntarily remaining a celibate because you can find happiness elsewhere on your own terms is a giga chad move and attractive for everyone and that includes the ladies. Teenage boys are stuck dealing with their emotions and horniness. Adult men have full control of it and is living life to the fullest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:18 PM
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The reality is society would see him as a man because he is born as a man. "Man" and "woman" is based on the physical sex they are born in and this is how society sees it. What society should change is that someone born in a man's body does not necessarily mean having the masculine identity that is associated with a man. So we can say this man is feminine and there is no reason to redefine them as a woman that refers specifically to the sex organ they are born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:55 PM
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Is "man" here a woman that transitioned to a man? The point remains that this particular person is a woman with a masculine identity. Man, the body, is associated with a certain identity and just because you have this identity doesn't make you actually one. Again, there is nothing wrong with a woman with a masculine identity because sex identity is a spectrum. What is wrong is insisting in redefining what sex is in a misguided assumption that sex reflects identity and one must be called a man to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:28 PM
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Yes and they are both on biological sexes. Alone, they do not dictate the sex identity that the person carries. That is a separate thing which is why sex identity is a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:28 PM
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Arguable because you are free to argue that the fully functional sex organ determines their sex. I'm pretty sure intersex people cannot impregnate themselves because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:30 AM
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They are both if both sex organs are functional but one can argue that since usually only one sex organ is fully functional, then the fully functional sex organ determines their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:27 AM
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Again, your body is either a man or a woman. Behavior is separate and has countless variation. Countless variation between two biological sex that is either a man or woman. See how simple that is? A feminine man is a valid description, a man calling themselves a woman is not. Feminine here can have countless variation on what counts as feminine but it doesn't change the fact they are a man. I'm pretty sure lesbians would not want a man identifying as a woman simply because lesbians are attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:19 AM
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That depends on science on how they would interpret it. The fact remains that normally we are either born as male or female and behavior is the spectrum. There is nothing complicated with the concept of masculine/feminine man/woman. Don't fix what isn't broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:56 AM
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That's just incorrect. Over 50% of couples meet online. Yeah and what about places where internet is bad or nonexistent? Just because it is the norm doesn't mean it is the only way to meet. It's simply more convenient but the same dynamic is at play here which is compatibility. This is what I mean by women have narrower preferences. Only if there is little to no compatibility. I'm pretty sure men would narrow a woman to always be sexy if she is imperfect in everything like personality. It's no d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:50 AM
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The point is that how one feels is a spectrum but what you are biologically is either a man or woman. If you are born as a man, then you are a man. Everything else is a spectrum and what you just said is an example. Like colors that have variations, how one sees themselves have variations but the fact remains that either you are a man or a woman and it is based on your birth sex. There is no need to muddy the definition of man and woman when they are based on biological sex and has nothing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:50 AM
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Those are preferences and just because you are seeing 10% of the 4B woman on earth have this preference doesn't mean the 90% have the same preference. That's like saying all men and women are attractive based on the looks of Hollywood celebrity. Even then, preference does not mean strict preference and some can overlook a man being shorter if they are compatible in a lot of things. That would mean that at minimum you must meet this height if you are not good with everything else just as some men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:19 AM
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Height which is relative to theirs and a reflection of the fact men are usually taller than women. It's more of immersing with reality than anything. That's also the reason why I have limit to how big boobs should be before I am turned off because it breaks immersion. I'm sure most men also prefer women being shorter because a woman taller than them is a rarity and some tall women also have a height complex about being taller than men. Women's ideal guy is about the setting and the attitude. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:31 AM
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Dedicating time and energy for something that may not work is basically a waste. Can someone with a physical disability match what a normal people can do through hard work like lifting a certain amount of weight? I'm sure you would agree that there are limits and to try and match it is futile. In the same way, not all people are meant to have partners. Some are more productive by being single and scientists like Isaac Newton is an example of that. Even Einstein had failed marriages because he wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:31 AM
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It is a spectrum in a sense that there is no clear dividing line like how color works. One cannot say there are only 7 colors because there are countless variations of colors in between the well known 7. The same is true with gender that varies between overly masculine to overly feminine and everything in between within a biological body. That said, a man is someone that is biologically a man and a woman is someone that is biologically a woman. You can have the most feminine urges and have the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:21 AM
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If you have trouble maintaining platonic friendships with women, then you are mentally stuck as a teenager. It is expected that an adult knows how to control their emotions and that is what sets adults apart from children and teenagers that have little to no control. That said, you should know your boundaries as a platonic friend so you won't become someone's "diet boyfriend". You can even joke about taking it seriously so she will most likely stop doing it. At the very least, you gain valuable …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:06 AM
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Dating and romance isn't everything and some men realized this fact. There is more to life than dating women. If a woman became interested in you and the feeling is mutual, then good for you. But there is no reason to dump all your time and energy trying to find a partner when there are other equally satisfying way to use that time and energy. The idea that you are a failure if you don't have a partner is doing more harm than good on men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:55 AM
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There are idealized version of men like how men have an idealized version women and they are what most of us consume. That doesn't mean they are restricted to that version in real life. I have my own idealized version of what a perfect woman is and it would most likely either not exist in real life or is extremely rare and yet I still find women less than my ideal version attractive. I would imagine the same is applicable to women. People normally have a wide range of what they find attractive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:47 PM
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The missing ingredient here is empathy. An empathic person wants others to be happy as well and self improvement is how you do it. You achieve happiness by improving yourself while making others happy because of that self improvement. Two bird with one stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:49 PM
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It's about the nuance of feeling out what the other person feels. A woman who obviously is interested in you would be thrilled to be confessed to. Not so much if that woman just sees you as a friends. Think about the reverse situation of a woman you are not interested in confessed to you. Would you want that? There is no shortage of women with different personalities and one of them is bound to be compatible with yours. There is no need to rush and confess to the first woman you are interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:44 PM
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Not trying hard enough. As much as I want a partner, I also love my personal freedom of being single. There are some habits of mine that isn't exactly a good fit when having a partner and my last relationship taught me that. Either I "git gud" and get a gf or stay the way I am and not have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:54 PM
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It's hard work if you are trying to do it. It's not work if you are just living life normally which is self improvement for your own good and happiness and women just notice and approach you because of that positive attitude and being compatible. No matter how hard you push people, you won't sell a single fish to people who has no interest in fish and only wants vegetables. You sell fish by having fresh and good quality fish and people that wants fish finding you. Same concept when it comes to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:46 PM
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That's funny considering I find it more common for people to joke or half joke about being ugly than being average. Regardless, it's never a good idea to date someone that genuinely thinks of themselves as ugly because it's not a healthy mindset. Being average is better because it's a neutral mindset that isn't self defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:04 AM
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You mean being average? Then my reasoning stands that men that think of themselves as ugly would not be a good partner because they would be clingy and desperate. Better find a partner that think of themselves as average and wouldn't cling simply because they accept it's not the end of the world for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:56 AM
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That's true but most operate on black and white which is either you are attractive or you are ugly and there is no in between of being average. If your mindset is that you are ugly, then you would desperately cling on any woman that comes your way and that would be disastrous. Someone that sees themselves as average wouldn't because they accept that while they are not the most attractive, there are still plenty of women out there that would be interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:18 AM
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Did the OP considered that ugly men would most likely be possessive because they know they are ugly and can't afford to lose the only woman that shows interest in them? That's not something the average person would want. OP also need to ask himself if he can genuinely love an unattractive woman and not just keep around for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:46 PM
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That's like saying all men have the same taste for an hour glass figure women. We can agree that men in general wanted this kind of women but not all, with men preferring slimmer or rounder women as we approach the extreme minority. By that same reasoning, majority of women have a certain taste but it varies across all women and they are simply less common the further it is from what the majority wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:10 PM
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Looking back in high school, I was just dense and some close female classmate of mine did seem to express interest in me but I was too focused on my crush to notice. Even in college some girls did express interest which actually lead to my ex to initiate on me. I can say that I am at least attractive enough for some women to express interest in me. I consider myself as average though there was a point in time when I thought I was unattractive especially when I was younger. That said, I am not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:11 PM
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"I'm straight so whatever makes my dick hard is a woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:48 AM
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Maybe staring too hard down to their soul isn't the best way to leave a good impression on someone. I noticed that men will stare at women they find attractive for long periods of time and that can be creepy. I personally don't like staring at people but even I find myself glancing at attractive women from time to time. I make sure I don't make them feel uncomfortable by being obvious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:07 PM
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Having confidence doesn't mean you are compatible with everyone. It simply means you have a higher chance of being noticed by people around you. You still have to look for a woman that sees you as her type and be confident with it. That confidence makes a big difference in making that woman like you more. Remember, just because you find a woman attractive doesn't always mean she shares the same feeling towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:28 PM
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As long as the 30 year old is not specifically looking for younger women for reasons like easier to manipulate or something malicious and selfish, then there is nothing wrong with it. I have seen a 20+ woman with a 50+ man and the man is a better father than her exes that dumped her after she got pregnant. Age gap between partner must be approached with caution but it is not necessarily bad and it's simply harder to balance properly because of that gap in experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:55 AM
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They won't if poor people are selective so they only marry rich people and refuse to do so out of love and would rather die. Eventually, poor people would cease to exist because they died off from refusing to marry each other. By that reasoning alone we can say that majority of the population do not mind marrying someone that is as poor as them if it means they are actually happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:15 PM
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Honestly, I am happy I am a man and people leave me alone. It comes down to personality and most men wanted attention especially from women which is why women seem to have it easy in our perspective because they have what men desire which is attention. The opposite may be true for women that envy men that they don't constantly get attention and people leave them alone if they wanted to. That doesn't mean I don't like attention from women because I like attention from women that I find attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:59 AM
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Yes but the gap in wealth in rural areas is not that significant that one would sacrifice love for it. Why marry someone with surplus animals when the one you like has enough to support a small family? Most people have a goal of having enough to have decent living with the one they love and only a minority prefers luxury that they are willing to put up with someone they don't actually like. This is true all throughout human history which is why poor people still exists because they are not activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:45 AM
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Knowing each other better equates to knowing compatibilities. That's why being yourself is the best way to do so. If a woman is quick to bond with a man, it means they are being themselves and also compatible that it took less time. If it takes a long time, then they either are not compatible or either of them are not being themselves. In short, if you are compatible with a woman, it's easy to bond with her with barely any effort despite being demisexual. The opposite is true if you there is lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure that majority of the population, that are basically equal or have negligible gap when it comes to wealth, marry because they like someone. Marrying for wealth is less common but more visible and sticks to people because it's not the norm for most. Why would a woman in a small village in some far away mountain or rural area care about resources when everyone in that small village have pretty much the same amount of wealth? It's only in the big cities where wealth is much more conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:44 PM
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Unfortunately, it's on the buyer's side that determines the demand which in turn encourages supply of selling sex. If no man buys sex, there is no reason to sell them and no one would be selling it. One can argue that no sellers means no buyers but men would just target poor women and convince them to sell their body because they needed to survive with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:57 AM

"Boring" is subjective and depends on the beholder. I find overly submissive and prude women as boring and prefers women with passion and a bit crude. That doesn't mean I hate boring women but I would rather hang out with women I find interesting. Some men don't like the women I like and like the women I find boring and that's normal because everyone has their own preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:48 PM
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guys who are friends with women who have zero sexual interest in them under any circumstances will have very different interactions with those women than any dating prospect would in their place. The point is having interaction with women means you learn how to read women behavior better and understand their mindset as oppose to guessing and second hand info you get from other people. This helps when you interact with a woman you are actually interested in. Men thinking being nice is enough is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure women aren't very strict in being friends with men. It's just that it's assumed men wanting to be friends have deeper intent and some women either pick up on it or just being cautious. If your intent of being platonic friends is very clear from the start, I'm sure they don't mind. Having female friends is beneficial for men because it helps men understand women better through interaction and vice versa and also alleviates loneliness that some men have. While being friends isn't o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:54 PM
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It's about acceptance and moving on. You honestly think a 70 year old man can compete with a 20 year old man in athletics? It's actually coping for a 70 yo to keep trying to beat a 20 yo thinking they will be able to someday. The best response is to accept your limitations and move on. You have no need to compete with a 20 yo in athletics. In the same way, you are not forced to find a romantic partner because you can find happiness on your own in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:44 AM
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The only advice to follow is be yourself, constantly improve to the best you can be, and most importantly find a compatible partner. That's it. Being yourself means you are not going to suffer trying to be someone you are not for another and constantly improving yourself means you strive for the version of you with the most positive quality and with least negative ones. All of that for someone that fits to who you are and will like you because of your positive qualities. The advice you are talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:36 AM
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I jack off once a day so it's inevitable to think about attractive women and sex at least once a day. The question is more about if there are days when I think less about women and more about something else and I can say there are a lot of days like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:48 PM
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There is nothing wrong with flirting. It's when someone is so desperate for sex that they are willing to cross any boundaries in an attempt to get laid that they become creepy. That is what draws the line between virgins and incels. There is nothing wrong with being a virgin especially if it is a choice. The problem is associating all virgin men to the incel mentality that leads to virgin men being looked down. It's time to look at men virginity in another light which is men being independent an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:31 PM
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You can want to have sex, be able to, and still not be a shit person. That's right which is why someone commented about the difference between nonvoluntary and incels. All incels are nonvoluntary virgins but not all nonvoluntary virgins are incels. Unfortunately, all virgin men are assumed to be incels which is why virgin men are looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:36 AM
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Wouldn't that make you voluntary celibate then for refusing casual sex? I am also a voluntary celibate and I certainly value my own virginity and would only do it with the woman I have deep feelings for. I would rather die a virgin than throw it away to some random woman I am not even attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:36 AM
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Aren't "involuntary virgins" basically ugly and/or neurodivergent guys. Ugly based on who? I have seen couples who I find ugly and yet they are happily married. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and so involuntary virgins are simply virgins that has yet to find someone who would find them attractive. Incels are people that succumbed to negativity and in doing so narrows the potential partner they have. Their own mindset is causing their own virginity instead of them just not meeting a compati…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:44 AM
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He was but he has failed marriages because he can't properly fulfill the role of a husband because he was too busy with science and math. There is no time for intimacy when there are equations and theories to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:46 AM
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Then we can say all incels are nonvoluntary but not all nonvoluntary are incels. Still, incels are the reason why being a virgin man is looked down upon because it is assume one is a virgin because one has the incel mindset that repulses women. If only virginity is associated with independent men who has no time for women because they are busy/content with life then virginity among men would be highly regarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:46 AM
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Maybe. But it's more likely that his true love is math and science and being in a relationship with women would only get in the way. It's no different from religious people that find happiness with god.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:17 AM
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There is a difference between a voluntary virgin and that from nonvoluntary or incel. It's the mindset and the latter is failing despite their effort because they are doing something wrong which is why they are virgins. The former is usually lumped together with incels but the only thing they have in common is them being virgins. Most voluntary celibate or volcels are that way because they have other priorities or they are simply content with life. Fun fact, Isaac Newton died a virgin because he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:49 AM
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I used to think degradation is always bad until I learned some women genuinely have a kink towards being treated as one. I think the mentality only applies if the one degrading them is someone they really like and is equivalent to a simp dragging his balls on broken glass for miles just to sniff the feet of a sexy woman that he desires. I personally don't like it but I make exceptions if it's without a doubt something that woman is into and is clearly enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:53 AM

Nah, nothing beats doing the actual thing going plap plap while telling your partner "get pregnant get pregnant". Sperm donation to spread your seed is as exciting as surviving through IV fluids instead of tasting actual yummy food.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:57 PM
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The term "feminist" have a lot of baggage and assumptions. There also may be expectations one should take and not taking it makes one against feminism. Identifying with any group basically restricts your freedom to think on your own because you are expected to follow every ideals that certain group has in order to be one of them. It's better not to identify as one while still agreeing with feminism for the most part especially the equality part. The same logic apply to things like religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:51 PM
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The point is whether you want to prioritse sex or emotional bonding is irrelevant if you never get a chance in the first place. Are you talking about looks? Again, there is no one that is unforgivably ugly and I saw with my own eyes both men and women that I don't find attractive being married. It's about finding compatible people and you won't run out of that diversity. Personality is the next most visible after looks and how you approach a woman depends on your personality. Mindlessly followin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:37 AM
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Is men wanting a woman who's genuinely attracted to him a shitty person? Why would this be frowned upon? Who said anything about it being a shitty? It's called compatibility with both man and woman being attracted to each other. It is subjective and there is no universal trait that everyone likes. If a person does not get opportunities to date, it's a fair conclusion that that person is pretty unforgivably ugly. On what basis other than personal tastes and compatibility? If you are a man that pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:17 AM
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We are not changing subject because the point has been made about scarcity of resources being the same in different situations. You are nitpicking real world oasis when oasis in general are known as a place where one gets fresh water in the middle of the desert. I guess in your opinion that means that because women don't always get dates with perfect men, they're shitty people. It means that if women are attracted to an obviously shitty attitude, then they are shitty people. The same can be said…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:01 AM
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The point is there are different ways of struggling to find clean water in the same way there are different ways of struggling to find a compatible partner. You are stating the obvious that not all women are decent because shitty one do exist like shitty men. Keep in mind though that birds of the same feathers flock together and shitty men goes along well with equally shitty women. If you are attracted to women that have shit attitude while finding decent women as boring and unattractive, then i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:46 PM
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Swamp vs desert. Water may be everywhere but finding clean water is a struggle. There is no water in the desert but if you do find it it's an oasis and clean enough to drink from it. Different problems, same struggle of finding clean water. The same can be said with men and women finding dates. Both side wanted a compatible partner but while one struggles with a lack of receptive partner, the other struggles finding compatible partners from a sea of potentials. While men find the latter a better…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:25 PM
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That's true but the fact remains no one died being celibate and stricter celibacy exists while men are able to function normally under these conditions. That mentality is similar to an alcoholic insisting they can't live without drinking despite the fact majority of the world functions normally without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:00 PM
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Celibacy isn't going to kill anyone and religious people have stricter celibacy vows and still functions normally. Considering that these people aren't even allowed to indulge their sexual desires and consciously satisfy it, you can see how it isn't that bad at all for an average single man without such restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:50 PM

I am just trying to clarify things here because I know as a man that dating a woman means eventual access to sex and some men laser focus on this. If this is how you think of dating and not two similar person sharing the same interests wanting to spend time together intimately, then no wonder getting a date is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:15 PM

When you say "dating" do you mean being concerned that you are compatible when it comes to looks and personality? Because "dating" as in having a partner to have access with sex is not something most women would want and even someone who is similar to your level would refuse. Some men prioritize sex so much that it becomes an obstacle in creating meaningful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:12 PM

There is no problem...except average women are not satisfied with their counterparts. Are you sure it's not the other way around? Both extremes can be bad with extreme high standard for women makes them incompatible with you and extreme low standard for women makes you incompatible with them. As far as I know, there is no dead bedroom scenario and they are happily married even to this day. Like I said, those guys know that compatibility is how you meet a partner and not some objective checklist …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:05 PM

So it's the opposite and the standard is very low for the sake of sex? I think we are starting to see the problem here. Having too low standard is equally bad because now you are the one that feels incompatibility with the other all because sex is a priority. I don't think anyone would like a partner who is just there for the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:38 PM

If so then there should be no problem with average men leading an average lifestyle being paired with average women leading an average lifestyle. Like I said, I know a lot of friends who are married now and they are as average as they can be including their partner. As expected, the handsome guys I know have equally beautiful partners so it's simply about finding a compatible partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:38 PM

Not from my experience. Quite a lot of guys I know who are now married do not have a gym body and they are quite average in build living an average lifestyle. Some even have a chub in them. The reason they got a partner is because they understand the concept of compatibility and they find partners that are compatible with their own personality and looks. I would assume most men who are complaining about women are focused on trying to attract a very particularly attractive women and won't settle …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:02 AM
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Which would make themselves shitty which is why they are complaining they aren't getting some from the shitty women they are attracted to. If they are decent then they would be indifferent because they are more interested towards women who have decent personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:01 AM

Moving out or not is nothing at all related to the sphere of bodily mutation. It is relevant to expectations. You are expected to move out as an adult in the west, you are expected to be circumcised in some countries. You think it is barbaric because you find it foreign. I find nose piercings and cosmetic surgery barbaric yet I don't go around telling people to shun it. It's their choice and if they are happy with it then so be it. Your singular experience is worthless. It isn't because I am as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:13 PM

Yet, it's clear it's considered more shameful to live with your parents than you moving out and living on your own in the west. I'm pretty sure there was a topic asking women if a man living with their parents is considered a red flag and some say that it is. While jewish circumcision loops off the foreskin, there are circumcision that simply splits open the foreskin and it remains there hanging. No more damaging than body piercings or tattoo. Less sensitive does not mean losing pleasure. I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:55 PM

But if it's seen as a "rite of passage" then they're at risk of being pressured/coerced into giving "consent" because they feel they need to when it's not what they actually want. Welcome to society that expects you to do things you are supposed to even if you don't want to. Western society expects an adult to live on their own because living with their parents, even if it saves a lot of money and simply being close knit, is shameful. As long as a choice is made, it should be fine. Besides, it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:42 PM

I would argue against infant circumcision but not circumcision during their teenage years when they aware of it and capable of consenting. In some countries, it is a rite of passage towards adulthood and no more mutilating than body piercings or tattoos. Benefits are arguable but even if it's as beneficial as an ear or nose piercing, at least it is something that they chose to do and not forced on them as an infant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:05 PM
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Being confident doesn't mean being pushy. It's about accepting who you are as a person. You are compatible with someone out there among the 4B women on earth even if the total amount of person who is compatible with you is one person because that is all you need as a partner. There is no need to be depressed that you are not super popular like chads are. That said, you shouldn't expect every woman you are interested in will find you interesting just as you don't find every women attractive. Who …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:56 PM
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"Some" women means not all women. If you like equally shitty women, then go ahead and be shitty. If you like decent women, then be decent and attract equally decent women. Am I correct to say men who wouldn't care about attracting shitty women just want someone to fuck which is why good personality is optional? Who cares if the relationship can easily fall apart as long as they get the sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:17 PM
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Decency is equivalent to being edible. Being romantically liked depends on the tastes of another. Even the abusive people have some decency in them and it all depends on the woman's compatibility with them. Some woman are into it, most would likely not. If you think there is a silver bullet in attracting all kinds of women, you are sorely mistaken. You might as well argue that there is one universally liked color or food that no one ever dislikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:35 AM
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That's true because a man with healthy mindset listens to both men and women equally. The reason why I focus on men not listening to women is because this is the most visible kind of men complaining about women being liars and yet will fully trust other men and ignoring the possibility of them being manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:20 AM
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Some men are stuck with the teen mentality that sex is everything and that is all they need in their life. Quite irresponsible and short sighted if one thinks happiness revolves around sex and everything else that goes with it like responsibility are just secondary priorities. It's also during teen years that men are taught virgins are losers and some never grew out of it and hold on to it until adulthood. Not being responsible and have no self discipline of their emotions and desires as an adul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:06 PM
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I will have to agree with uncertainty here simply because it's also how you soften rejection with it. If she is into you, she will flirt back with the same energy and can progress from there. If not, she wouldn't and you know you got rejected without feeling the direct pain of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:56 PM
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If he doesn't listen to what a woman can say but perfectly fine with other men, that is a red flag. Without a doubt, constant disagreement will happen because he will always antagonize what the woman does and say until he snaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:40 PM
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She probably has a breeding fetish, who knows. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:24 AM
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They see women as NPCs like in the video game. They are the protagonist and NPCs just bend to their will. An NPC should yield to what they want and an NPC that does not is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:03 PM
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Does the pill undo every memory I made as a straight man? There is a whole lot of problem without a complete reset of my memory because that would mean I have bad memories of being attracted to women and will be haunted by it for the rest of my life as a gay man. A complete reset where my old identity basically dies is the only way it can work. Would I take the pill now? Not really because I am happy with my identity as a straight man that loves beautiful women. If reincarnation is a thing, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:23 AM
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Friendship should be blind when it comes to gender. It's simply having common interest which lead to constant interaction. For example, you can be friends with a woman because both of you have nerdy interests with D&D. The problem is some men have trouble with self control and letting their sexual desires dictate their behavior which leads to conflict. You would think an adult man would have self control with how they act around women and yet some never mature enough beyond their teen years with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:13 AM
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You might as well ask if I want a pill that completely changes who I am then if preference other than gender changes. I assume this pill simply makes one attracted to same sex but other preferences remain. Besides, I did explain that tomboys can pretty much fill in everything a gay man can do for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:07 AM
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The delayed regret has always baffled me because it implies that consent doesn't matter if it can be withdrawn far into the future. A consensual encounter becomes rape just because someone felt like it a year later. Yet, people would not be fine with the idea of a rape becoming consensual a year later because of Stockholm syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:46 PM
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By that logic, we should judge women using dildos because dildos can never be a sufficient replacement for a real dick. AI gf exists so no woman have to be forced into a relationship by men seeking one just as dildos exist so women are not forced to have sex with men in order to pleasure themselves. AI can be tailored to fit the exact preferences of men which is something no woman can ever do. As long as having an AI gf does not have a negative impact with their life in general, there is nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:13 AM
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It's a no for the reason I like tits and men do not have them. Tomboys do exist and they can possess those masculine traits and be one of the boys while at the same time remain feminine. If I am going to fuck a man then I might as well become a full woman and have the body that I am attracted to. That's simply who I am just as gay men feel that way because that's who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:33 AM
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They feel like the sentient protagonist and women are mindless NPC mobs that only exist for them to conquer. That's the explanation behind it. It's the same reason why incels refers to women as femoids implying they are not sentient and are objects being used by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:59 PM
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There is only compatibility, nothing else. Either you are compatible enough to have sex or not. High value simply means being compatible with a lot of people. That doesn't mean being low value means having zero compatibility with anyone because it simply means only a few people are compatible with them. Sex is still the same regardless which is deriving pleasure from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:04 PM
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I would agree that some, if not most, people in the west have swung too far towards feminism and DEI to the point of absurdity and it needs to move back to the middle. It's like trying to put out a fire by flooding or by neutralizing acid by making it too alkaline. While it is good that we are now aware and more sympathetic towards women, it's not good when women are just trying to replace and repeat the mistakes men did in the past because the same outcome will happen which is men fighting for …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:46 PM
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Sadly, some women are as radicalized as men when it comes to gender wars and will commit crimes like this. It's not surprising that there will be people who sympathized with her because of how polarizing this gender war can be. The same can happen with men especially in patriarchal countries like in the middle east that greatly favors men than women in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:50 PM
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Potato are edible and yet you don't see anyone eating it raw. Why is that? It's because raw potato is bland despite edible but it can be eaten in desperate times or among a small minority of people that somehow love raw potato. In the same way, doing the basic makes you an option but not for the majority. Being interesting is what makes you an option for many more people and subjective compatibility is a factor. Not all people will like you but a lot will have the same taste as you. The more you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:33 PM
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The question is, why is this never the first part when talking about the standards? Consider food. It must be edible for it to be considered as one. That is the minimum. Now just because it meets the minimum doesn't mean everyone will want to eat it. Potato is edible and yet almost nobody will want to eat it as it is unless they are really hungry or in the minority. It needs more with it so more people will want it like it being cooked or paired with other ingredients. It's the same with dating.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:39 PM
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I am not making this up. Ask any celibate priest and they will tell you they do feel sexual urges from time to time and they simply have self discipline to manage it alongside wet dreams. Again, why complain if abstinence removes desires that makes you suffer in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:12 PM
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We are talking about voluntary celibates that can deal with their libido just fine without any sexual relationships. Again, they feel sexual desires all the time and that's a fact. They can break their vow and engage in sex whenever they want. They simply chose not to through self discipline. Considering that they are doing just fine, why not majority of men that simply can't find partner at the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:19 AM
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It's to show you that voluntary celibacy does not lessen any sexual desire and yet majority do not sexually abuse anyone. They have to deal with their libido everyday with no way to consciously relieve themselves since I assume they can only do so through wet dreams without feeling guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:19 AM
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Love is simply empathy at a higher level. When you feel and understand someone as much as you feel and understand yourself, that's love and it's completely subjective. That is what marriage is suppose to symbolize which is the oneness of two in mind and body. If there is no empathy between couple and they only see their own benefits, then there is no love. Trying to rationalize love is as futile as analyzing the best color that all humans must accept as best or analyzing the rigid shape that wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:31 AM
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The point is that men can survive even under the harsh conditions of their sexual desires being suppressed. They don't suffer loneliness like most men. If they can do this, why not most men? Why not create a similar support community without the harsh restrictions of being celibate? They do feel sexual desires or otherwise there would be zero cases of priests sexually abusing children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:54 AM
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If this is the case, then there would be no case of priests sexually abusing children. The fact it happens show that sexual desire is a constant and a constant struggle for those who vowed celibacy. If these men can survive under such restrictions and yet do not feel loneliness like most men do, why can't most men who has no restrictions other than an actual partner do better than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:54 AM
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It does not but rather it shows that mental state is a factor whether single men die faster if voluntary celibate men have the same normal lifespan as married men. If so, then the solution is a change of mental state since this is easier than forcing someone else to bend to your will, would you agree? Keep in mind that if a monk can manage their sexual desire at a stricter level and still have a healthy life span, then regular men that has no such restriction should not have trouble in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:18 AM
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It doesn't have to be a big single group of community for men. It can be numerous and localized community helping each other out. What's important is there is a sense of companionship from other men if romantic relationship is unavailable at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:37 PM
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Voluntary celibacy doesn't turn off the desire for sex. Part of the reason why they became monk and priest is to have self control over it which means they do struggle from time to time and a reminder that masturbation is often forbidden and even the thoughts of sex. Clearly, it's demonstrable that men are capable of putting sexual desires under control and live a life of contentment without romantic relationships. Considering that regular men have no restrictions with sex and are just unable to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:37 PM
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Does that mean single men should have a community as well and look out for each other? I think this would really help ease the loneliness for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:46 PM
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I'm interested in knowing the lifespan of monks or religious men that abstain from sexual relationships altogether. The only difference they have with other lonely men is their mindset of contentment on their singleness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:35 PM
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If women are free from certain expectations on how to act, then it's also fair that men are free from certain expectations as well. That means don't expect men to always make the first move or always have the money to spend on the woman. Women can also make the first move and have the money to spend on men because both gender now have equal opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:47 AM
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What do you mean by that? Compared to men, they are indeed less visual. Why do you think women are more about reading smut while men are about watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure women are less visual than men and more on their body being stimulated. Their encounters are meh because most men are too focused on their own orgasm and are willing to ignore what a woman actually wants because their orgasm isn't supposed to be that important. It's the case of men being the protagonist and his needs must be met while women are NPCs whose needs can be ignored because they don't matter. Women are diverse in needs and one must ask what turns her on instead of simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:18 PM

It depends on the woman. Some woman finds it enough to be dominated by a man to achieve it and a I know quite a lot that finds the idea of being dominated to be hot. Sometimes they need special situation like being the one leading to achieve it which may conflict to how a man feels. The point is that men should be ready to listen to what a woman wants to help them achieve their own orgasm. The most flexible and diverse men when it comes to taste in bed are highly valued when it comes to helping …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:59 PM
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For example I wouldnt participate in any kind of scat play, if a woman wanted me to give her a golden shower I would decline, no matter how atractive I found her. Understandable but there are men who would decline for a woman dominate them without engaging into anything weird like that simply because they feel emasculated when they submit to women. This is also why compatibility is important because it means that both man and woman would be able act out their fantasies without the need to compro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:38 AM
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If a woman insists to take a dominant role with someone that doesnt want to partake in such fantasy, yes, she is being pushy. So now do you understand why there is an orgasm gap then? If most men feel emasculated by being submissive to a woman and a woman wanting to lead and fulfill her fantasy is being pushy, then do you see why most women are being passive and internalized the idea that their own orgasm isn't important? Isn't having sex with a woman he desire a fulfillment of his fantasy? Is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:55 AM
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If she insist on leading, she is not leading, she is being pushy. So a man leading is being pushy then? If the woman wants to lead and fulfill a fantasy, is she being pushy? If yes, then is a man initiating sex being pushy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:46 AM
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Yes, and what is your point? Am I not saying that the system is about levelling the field by pulling up women who are inherently at a disadvantage when it comes to physical strength? The system isn't meant to swing the advantage to one side but rather by giving advantage to both equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:01 AM
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When the woman insists she leads and the man feel emasculated in doing so. There is no problem if the man has no problem leading and submitting to a partner because that results to give and take when it comes to fulfilling fantasies that leads to orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:01 AM
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I could be friends with women if they didn’t think height and bigness (often fat and out of shape) meant strength and “better.” But most do. "Most" women you see that fits the narrative or the 10% tip of the iceberg. The invisible 90% you think do not exist cares about compatibility and height is a subjective preference. Looks do matter but successful long term relationships are heavily dependent on compatible personalities. You can have the hottest woman on earth as a wife but if you aren't com…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:01 AM
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So what does it mean when it comes to your relationship with your mother? Are you saying that you have some sexual feeling toward your mom which is why you are speaking to her or otherwise you would be ignoring her out of disinterest? Men that don't want female friends have little to no self control when it comes to sex and that is why they can't be friends with women because they can't help but want to have sex with them. Any man who admits to being incapable of being friends with women platoni…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:27 AM
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Which is why I argued it is simply leveling the playing field but we can't deny that the system has a bigger positive impact towards women and covering the area where women are at a disadvantage and that is their physical strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:58 AM
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The system simply levels the power gap of men and women. Just a reminder that men have physical strength to force the women to whatever they want without any system put into place. Don't like how the woman acts around you? Threaten violence and women have no choice but to obey without any system to protect them. That's said, it can't be denied that some women abuses the system meant to protect them and uses it to antagonize on men. But just as not every man out there will use force to get what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:57 AM
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Men being in charge is mostly likely because they want to be in charge because having a woman initiate and in charge feels emasculating for them. So the problem here is partly on men that denies women from taking the lead and letting them indulge on their fantasies. The other problem are women that internalize the idea that they should simply submit and their own pleasure is secondary to that of the man. The solution is an equal give and take of partners indulging their fantasies with one anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:47 AM

Without the system, women are at a severe disadvantage. Men can simply use brute force to coerce women to whatever they want. The system is there so men can't simply use physical strength to get what they want. Let's be honest here, both genders have the tendency to want to escape responsibilities if given the chance and men had that power because of their physical strength. The system is meant to level the playing field for women but no system is perfect and it can be abused. So it's not a surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:27 PM
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As long as you keep it to yourself, there is nothing wrong with it. Otherwise, this is no better than thought policing that there is no privacy even within the confines of your mind. The reason for averse reaction is because of people being aware of other people having lewd thoughts towards them makes them uncomfortable and that's understandable. As long as you don't ruin their day by making them aware of such thoughts and/or acting it out, it should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:41 PM
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Both side have confirmation bias with some men seeing everything as against them while some women reacts the same way based on those men that antagonizes them for thinking women are against them. There are always bad men and women out there and that's a fact. The question is whether you would hyperfocus on those minority and generalize a gender based on them or accept that majority are moderate and indifferent to whatever these minority has to say about the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:29 PM
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It's simply the male centric view that men are the protagonist while women are NPCs. Men are supposed to be sentient enough to know they are using women but women aren't supposed to be aware of it. It also hurts the ego of men thinking they are being used by women for sex which is another reason why women are treated as NPCs that are not aware of the concept of using men for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:09 PM
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Saying your intention early and you are moving too fast. Saying your intention later and you get friend zoned. Quite a dilemma we have here. I would say dropping hints of wanting romance with gradually increasing obviousness is how one does it without coming off as moving too fast. Sometimes a little time is needed for both side to realize how they actually feel for one another and hints serves as a reminder of romantic intent while at the same time not being overly pushy. How the other person r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:15 PM
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There are also normal women who are not special and goes unnoticed by men because hotter women exists. The only reason why men seems to be at a disadvantaged is because men themselves initiate instead of them being initiated on. When men are self sufficient, you won't feel like you have the need to bend the knee to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:17 PM
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Exactly because it's not a hard rule that men should always initiate. Hot rich men is no different from a hot supermodel woman. It's a given they attract a lot of people. The point is that women can also initiate among regular people if they find someone attractive enough. I personally know a married couple and the wife was the first one to initiate on the man back in college. He was actually short compared to a lot of men but he is pretty smart and that may be the reason why his wife initiated …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:01 PM

Human behavior is influenced by a limited set of evolved instincts, but these instincts are modulated, suppressed, or redirected by culture, learning, and rational thought. Which itself is influenced by those instinct. Men being assertive is the reason why some cultures makes women submit to men. Women being submissive make men happy and if women are fine with it because they instinctually like being submissive, then the culture thrives. Some cultures are more equal because this is how men and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:00 PM
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We are told to initiate because it is usually men who desires women first instead of the other way around. There is no hard rule saying this is how things should be. I do agree that treating women like queen and princesses is the reason of power imbalance. When you treat women as superiors, you are seen as inferior. When you treat them as equals, you are treated the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:13 PM

Human behavior is govern by instinct and that instinct seeks what is best for humanity as a whole. Most people just goes by instinct that makes them happy and resulting to moderates being plentiful and happy in general. Only a minority tries to reason with it based on personal bias and change how people should be happy when it comes to relationship. While the majority just rely on compatibility by instinct to find a partner, the minority reasons that a partner should have this and that. It's bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:04 PM
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Real man as in an adult male is someone that has self discipline and self sufficiency. Without that, you are still a boy that is easily impressed and manipulated by your environment and people around you and ruled by your emotions. While all men (and women) physically matures, not all men mentally and emotionally reach maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:50 AM
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Men are partly to blame for making women mini celebrities because they can't help but to shower them in praise and compliments in an attempt to get laid. We wouldn't have this problem if men have self discipline so they give genuine praise and compliments without any expectations of getting laid. Too many options can be overwhelming so it's understandable most can't even start to choose because there might be someone better among those choices and yet it's exhausting going through all of it. Con…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:45 AM
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Being in the swamp means they are in a world where men either does not value compatibility in favor of sex or too impatient to learn how to be a good partner because of the promise of sex with a partner. Those who do value compatibility and mature enough to be a good partner are less common. Admit it, most of us men would have clouded judgement when sex is involved that consequences becomes less of a priority. Even the most disciplined man would struggle to contain himself in certain situations …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:32 PM
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Exactly. You have no difficulty in telling swamp water from clean water but the fact remains that you see swamp water most of the time. In the same way, majority of men that approaches women shows obvious sign that they just want to get laid when the woman wanted a long term relationship through compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:20 PM
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The swamp analogy simply means that a lot of men are desperate for relationships regardless if they are prepared for it and women have to wade through that. That fits the dirty water analogy because a lot of men just want relationship to scratch the itch from their crotch and nothing else. Sex is a must but a working relationship is optional because they either just move to another if it fails or just use brute force by being controlling. Can you really blame this analogy if men themselves admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:36 PM
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Moderate human behavior are the majority. That can shift with narratives by cherry picking. If enough men and women continue to consume narratives that favors the extreme minority, then the scenario presented by the minority would become real and problematic. Fortunately, humans are compelled towards the moderate without any narratives pushing them so the solution is simple skepticism towards any narratives and to keep in mind that human behavior naturally forms a normal distribution. There are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:32 PM
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That is simple statistics. Bell curve represents the normal distribution and it applies to human behavior. While extremists do exist which is what the sub talks often, they are a minority. Giving the minority more visibility by cherry picking is what gives the illusion that the minority is the majority. If one side is absolutely right, then the other side can never justify there own and would cease to exist. Yet, we can clearly see both side stand which means that what is right is somewhere in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:32 PM
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People are falling for lies that they already wanted to believe. This is the problem. It's much easier to accept lies that aligns to your beliefs than accept truth that goes against it. If you start to believe women are evil, it will pick momentum and snowball from there to the point it becomes an identity and a hole you can't get out of. The only way to avoid it is to be skeptical at all times and try to stay in the the middle as a moderate. To do so, let rational thinking rule over rather than…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:33 AM
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The appalling ones? Majority. No doubt. Just like women. Then your reasoning defeats your arguments. If men is as shitty as women, then you have no reason to complain. Majority are appalling, majority are not being picked. Simple. Yes. How is this relevant? It is relevant because men have nothing to stand on when complaining about women picking serial killers. If men can do the same and you are fine with it, why can't women do it? If you think this should be changed, then why not start with men?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:21 AM
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He should. If he doesn't he is equally appalling. Does this kind of man represent majority of men or are they outliers and minority? If the latter, do you consider that it's the same with women and narratives is what makes the outliers more visible and seemingly a representative of majority? Because men would fuck any woman that shows interest. Doesn't that contradict what you said about men not picking women just because she is hot? Isn't this even more low standard if men will fuck any woman t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:50 AM
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Isn't it understandable that boring and unremarkable being a negative trait that people would avoid? Would a man choose a boring and basic woman that has no interest whatsoever other than simply existing over a hot woman with personality even if that personality is rotten? There is a reason why men have to be reminded not to stick their dick into crazy because men would look past that craziness if it means getting laid with a hot woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:43 PM
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Earlier society expects men to be promiscuous so it's no surprise men that isn't hypersexual is seen as someone that has something wrong with them. If there is no trend changing, then there would be no trend of men promiscuity being seen as offensive and this thread wouldn't exist. The fact is change is happening and we are just near the beginning of it is the hardest part of old expectations still being there while new expectations of equality is just beginning and resulting to conflicting mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:24 PM
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That's the result of transition from a society that expects men to be promiscuous to a society that sees sexuality of men and women as equals. We are starting to see people that sees promiscuous men as bad and yet the expectation is still there for most. Think of it like a bird molting its baby feathers and replacing it with adult ones. It looks ugly as hell during that period but it will fully replace all of it. It would be the same with how men's sexuality is treated. It's a rough period for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:58 PM
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Dating experience has no narrative on why something happened. Being rejected can either be interpreted as the woman looking down on you or you are simply incompatible with her and no one is at fault. In the manosphere, you are given the conclusion why you were rejected. Take that as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:51 AM
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It is to drive the narrative that women who rejects men will regret it later when they are single in old age. It's kind of a revenge fantasy of bitter men and it making them feel better and vindicated while at the same time a threat to younger women to push them to just settle on the first man that shows interest on them to avoid being a lonely old maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:47 AM

Only viable pathway would be if women made the move, but that’s never gonna happen unless the guy holds decent status or is extremely attractive. This narrative of status and looks being the only thing that matters seems to be coming from the minority of men trying to manipulate the majority to just give up. You only need to be average or above average in looks with compatible interests and personality to find a long term partner. Status and extreme attractiveness is only very important for shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:29 AM
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I mean that female sexuality has always been seen as offensive for both men and women throughout human history. It's only now that equality is making men experience what women had which is sexuality being seen as bad. While the norm used to be that men being obsess with sex is the norm and expected, that is changing now so that men obsess with sex is no different from being a slut. So male sexuality isn't more offensive than that of women. It's simply male sexuality now being seen as equal to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:07 PM
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Pretty sure women are in the same boat and they are looked down as sluts or whores. I think the concept is just catching up to men considering men being promiscuous were the norm for much of human history and only now do men experience what it feels like to be looked down for being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:34 PM
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Would men choose the kind but average looking woman over the funny and sexy beauty that is good in bed? Questions like this can usually be answered by asking yourself as a man if you can honestly say you put more weight into the personality of a woman than her looks. Just a reminder that there exists women who are rotten at their core and yet somehow still find men wanting her simply because she is hot. Should we generalize all men based on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure it also applies to men. Men have personality preference to what makes a good partner and yet all of that doesn't matter if the woman in question isn't good looking. Be honest because most men would most likely hesitate choosing a woman that has the perfect personality but is unattractive over a woman that has imperfections and incompatibilities but is beautiful and sexy as hell. It shows that one must not neglect the physical attractiveness side and always do your best to have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:14 AM
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Self control is all you need and there will be less women with inflated ego. Egotistical women rely on the fact most men think with their little head and will do anything for a chance to get laid and compliments are the easiest way to do so. Treating women less like queens and more as equals results to men being treated as equals instead of servants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:37 AM
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Men, when given the chance, are more prone to cheat than women. Again, men reason that men are biologically compelled to spread their seed and therefore one time casual sex don't count as cheating for some. Do women have the same narrative in justifying cheating or do women accept they are indeed cheating and doing something they shouldn't? Arguably, the reason women cheat is because their current partner is negligent of their needs. Meet those needs and women have no reason to cheat. Men only n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:24 PM
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I don't doubt cheating is actually common and most are just well hidden. It applies to both men and women but men arguably tend to cheat more because of their biological compulsion to spread their seed and casual one time sex aren't considered as cheating for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:02 PM
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Echo chambers are bad and results to extremism. Reddit itself is an echo chamber of certain political ideology, thanks to the voting system, and giving it a bad look for moderates. The incels forums is an example where only male incels are allowed and everyone hates women and feminism over there. If you defend women in anyway, you get shunned or probably even banned. The solution is understanding that the visible part of each gender is simply the tip of the iceberg. The majority is invisible and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:27 PM
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Compatibility. That's all that matters. Everyone has different views and personality so there is no one single correct answer. A trad man that wants a trad wife would ideally be paired with a trad woman that wants a trad husband. A trad man that wants a progressive wife should ideally be with a progressive woman who wants a trad husband. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:07 PM
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I would argue that a woman that is in the mood can match the libido of a man if not surpass it. Men are constantly horny which explains the statistics but that doesn't invalidate the intensity of a woman's libido when the mood is right. Denying orgasm of a horny woman is as bad as denying orgasm for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:58 AM
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Women nerds exist and they relate more with fellow nerds. A strong handsome man that can't relate nor has any nerdy interests of the woman is not attractive as a long term partner. They are not as visible as the women that most men associate as "all women". To say all women are represented by the most visible ones is as bad as saying the whole of Japan is a modern technological country based on your experience within the capital. Until you actually explore beyond the mainstream tip of the iceber…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:05 PM
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Don't stop and keep yourself focused on it. There is no finish line when it comes to self improvement and even in the worst case scenario of never finding a partner, you didn't waste a moment in your life because of that self improvement as oppose to being bitter that does nothing but make you miserable. When you think about it, wanting a partner can be an obsession and addiction. I'm sure you would agree that kind of mentality isn't healthy. I know how you feel because I have been there especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:46 AM
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Certain dating strategies draws in certain type of women. In the grand scheme of things, women are very much varied like men and this diversity is not something most men sees because only certain women are visible for most. That gives the illusion most women are the same. That's like saying men are statistically ripped because most of your sample and experiences comes from men that hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:37 AM
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The point is people avoid those who are bitter against them. Being bitter towards women is just making things worse instead of solving your problem. If your aim is to solve the problem of being avoided, then do not give in to bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:37 AM
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Why are you bitter just because a certain group of women don't like you? Do they represent all women? I'm sure you don't like women generalizing men based on the few that they know and the same applies to men towards women. The solution is to redirect your attention to something else like self improvement. The more you focus on it the better you become as a person and increasing your chance of attracting a partner from those improvements. It all comes down to your mindset whether you entertain n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:10 AM
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Women are extremely hateful and sadistic towards sexually unattractive guys (in other words, the majority of guys) Says who? Other men? Minority of women equivalent to the minority of men that find sadistic pleasure in hurting women? Do you accept women saying all men are sadists that find pleasure in hurting women? If not because you understand that they represent an extreme minority of men, why should you accept the idea that all women are represented by a minority of sadistic women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:55 AM
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Is it abuse when the woman you like does not like you back and gets rejected as a result? Abuse is when there is a malicious intent behind the act and being rejected for not being compatible is not abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:28 AM
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Do you like being with people that are bitter to you? I would assume you don't and would rather stay away from them. Can you blame women staying away from men that are bitter towards them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:06 PM
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That leads to women avoiding you even more because of that bitterness and making things worse for you. It's understandable to feel that way but giving in to bitterness is like thrashing in a quicksand and sinking even more rather than staying calm and slowly pulling yourself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:45 PM

Men are statistically taller than women though so it's considered as the norm for men to be taller than women. It doesn't mean it's a strict requirement because I have seen a couple that is now married with the man being short relative to most men and yet it was the woman who initiated the relationship. It's about compatibility when it comes to long term relationship and physical attributes only weigh more in short term and causal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:05 PM
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Depends on the man and the situation. Any man would fold if seduced by a beautiful woman and they are horny at that time with little to no chance of being caught. Otherwise, the average man would not do it and those that did would feel guilty over it. A minority of men do have compulsion to cheat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:59 PM

That's normal because humans are diverse when it comes to sexual appetite. I don't like those either but I am more than willing to do it if that turns them on and leads to an orgasm. It isn't me that knows and dictates what turns them on so I listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:40 PM

It's the same force that compels men to fantasize forcing themselves on women. It's the drive to procreate and women are no different. The problem is women have to cover that drive with rape fantasizes to avoid the shame of being a slut which society have decided is not good for a woman to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:30 PM

It looks good and it feels good to touch, at least for me. That's my honest opinion as a man. I am aware that big tits can cause back pain for women and that feels conflicting for me but it doesn't change the fact I would prefer them having big tits if there is a way to circumvent the negative of it. So I understand if women also prefer bigger dick than the average ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:30 PM

No different from most men preferring big tits and ass in general. That doesn't mean there is no room for those that are fine with smaller ones. Considering the context is about PVI, it doesn't take into account other kinds of sex like oral or anal which I would argue does not necessarily favor big dicks. So women in general favoring big dicks is expected but it doesn't mean it is strict preference just as men in general liking big tits and ass isn't a strict preference. There is no need to feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:15 PM
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Women can be as fucked up as men when it comes to fantasies and the problem is that some people cannot accept that fact. Rape fantasies is also how a woman enjoy rough sex or multiple sex if it involves multiple men without feeling guilty of being a slut. If slutty women are not looked down upon, I'm sure there would be less women having rape fantasies and just straight up fantasies of being a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:45 PM
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The fact I don't have to deal with things that woman has to like having their period and being constantly hit on. At worse, I get stabbed if I walk in a bad part of town while a woman would get raped and stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:46 PM
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Unless that man spends his life locked in his room and wasting his life on it, I don't see any reason why they would question his sexuality or his attractiveness if he is being honest with them about living life that is emotionally independent and self contentment. Adults know that you cannot force love between two person and those who believe in fate would understand it better. Some people find love in another person, some don't and that is fine. Only someone that has negative view of voluntary…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure it mostly refers to men that are literally incels and are trying to lose their virginity and just can't. Men that voluntarily remain celibate because they are content with their life are arguably respected. Newton died a virgin because he was too busy contributing to society through science and nobody mocks him for it. If men wanted to avoid being mocked for not having some, then it's as simple as being a volcel and finding happiness and contentment other than sexual relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:12 PM
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Why would he only want to sleep with her once, when it might be months or even years before he meets another woman willing to give him a chance again? It's not about sleeping with a woman once but rather the man only caring about keeping the woman around for sexual reason by doing the bare minimum in a relationship. Do a bit of this and that so she is happy enough to stay and satisfy his sexual desires when he is in a mood. That is something women are wary about. It's not exactly a happy relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:37 PM
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Cold approach is basically an impulsive move on the man's part when seeing an attractive woman and hoping he can somehow get her to acknowledge and like him. It can work but the chance of being rejected is very high and can take a toll on you if rejection feels unpleasant for you. I would imagine that almost all, if not all, women are wary of strangers especially men and cold approach is exactly the type of interaction women are wary of and will have their guard up. Let's not forget the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:48 PM
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It's about being genuine about the praise and not because you have an intent behind it. If you only praise women and not other men because you are hoping women would like you for it, then you are doing it wrong. Ask yourself; would you praise a man for the same thing? Would another woman praise them for it? If not, then you might be praising someone simply because they are a woman. I have no problem praising a woman like their hair style because I have no problem praising a man who just had a ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:37 PM
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Maybe because their whole personality revolves around financial security and nothing else because they believe that this is the only thing that matters to a woman. Turns out financial security is a minimum in a long term relationship and it needs something more like interesting hobbies and interactions between couples. Potatoes alone can fill your stomach but nobody would choose it over a plate with different kinds of food in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:03 PM
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They are just hoping that somehow she would lower her standards for them. They know they can't afford her but they hope she would make herself affordable for them because they think highly of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 01:55 AM
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Yes, that's exactly what I am going for. As long as fictional relationships do not negatively impact everyday life like how a normal man's masturbation habit do not negatively impact their everyday life, it's a legitimate substitute and men do not have to feel pressured into entering relationships irl just to fill that need for intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:36 PM
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I wouldn't disagree, but without the emotional depth that a lot of men tend to only be able to get their romantic relationships, a lot of men these mens lives are going to be unspeakably lonely, isolated and bleak. There are substitutes for this and either you find happiness through spirituality or immerse yourself to a fictional relationship with a fictional character. The latter may be controversial but it's no different from masturbation as a replacement for sex when you have no partner to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:35 AM
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How I see it is that that these young men see the negative side of women and then other men enforces it instead of being reasonable and saying that they represent the minority. I would expect that mature men would know better and guide the younger ones and yet they themselves are as impressionable as the young ones instead of being skeptical. While it's true that minority of women serves as a bad example for women everywhere, it is statistically inevitable that they exist. It all comes down to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:32 PM
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I would agree if decentering here means your life does not revolve around getting laid and having a woman by your side to feel good about yourself. Decentering as in having other interest like how Newton died a virgin because he was focused on science is something a lot of men needs to do. Staying happy being single because of other interests especially something that promotes wellbeing of yourself or others is an attractive trait by itself and can attract others to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 09:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure all physical demands are what men thinks and this is supported by the fact men are more visual than women. We can assume physical standard set for men are by men assuming based on their own standard that physical attraction is the most important aspect like how they set standards for women. The bare minimum is actually be dependable and reliable that knows how to empathize with their partner. If you can do that to your parents, which I assume to be the case if you love them, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:38 PM
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I can confirm from experience. I was immature and neglectful and I only thought about myself and how she should be able to handle long distance relationship. Breakup happened and struggled to understand what went wrong. Only later did I realized I was in the wrong for being neglectful and I was either too immature or selfish to accept it back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:26 PM
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Let the woman initiate. Pull them in instead of pushing yourself to them. I'm pretty sure it's a given that men wanted to have sex especially in the context of dating and romance unless they explicitly stated they don't want to. So there is no need to state you wanted to have sex but rather focus on making the woman comfortable so she initiates herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:18 PM
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I don't know if women realized it but it's a subtle way of saying that it's time for women to initiate on men. I have no problem with it because it saves me time and energy from trying to get the attention of a woman that doesn't like me. So I do what women have always done which is being attractive in a passive way and they will come to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:10 PM
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Looking cool does not necessarily mean being macho. You don't need to be big and muscular for you to look cool to the ladies. You only need to be someone that is dependable and confident for you to look cool and attractive to women. That is something you show off naturally with your mannerism and not some act you try hard to do. It helps when you are good looking but being average looking and have this trait is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:11 PM
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It's not bad to improve but everyone has different taste and that's something dating coaches miss. While it may be true that one needs to be confident, one does not necessarily need to be dominant or completely assertive. A nice balance of assertiveness and submissiveness should be enough for the average woman. If you are the type of person that lacks in confidence and being overly submissive, then there is nothing wrong in gaining confidence and being a bit more assertive. You can be an introve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:37 PM
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That's the thing, you don't always realize you're being used. Being used is something you decide on and not something objective. For some, a partner that doesn't easily submit is abusive while others sees it as a positive trait. For some, a man leading the household is expected while others feel it is very controlling. It completely depends on the beholder just like beauty itself. A child leeches resources and gives nothing back, that is the truth. Some parents sees them as investment for the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:48 PM
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You are only used if you feel like being used and miserable. Technically, kids are using their parents to survive but it doesn't feel that way because their parents love their kids so much that they will do anything for them. It's the same with a partner. Loving yourself as much as you love others means being genuinely happy as much as the other is happy and not a forced one. Maybe you are thinking of letting others go just because it is expected and you feel miserable yourself when that's not w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:05 PM
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I am not saying not to try but rather true love is about seeing that loved one happy because their happiness is your happiness. It's a state of mind that is hard to achieve but it is indeed the highest and true form of love. Nobody is saying to just assume she is better off with someone else because that's for her to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:32 PM
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Would you rather fail but succeed in weeding out men that just wanted sex or take chance on a man that initiated and hiding his true intent until it is too late for you? That's up to you if you value identifying men's intent from the start or let them prove themselves as they come on to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:48 PM
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Then he isn't the right one. Arguably, it's an advantage to initiate because men who just want sex would not try to hide it because they mistook your forwardness as wanting to fuck right away. Men who feel more comfortable having emotional connection would never push or even suggest that to a woman they just met because they themselves do not feel comfortable with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:42 PM
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There is no difference as long as the woman do not just give in to sex just because she initiated. She can still hold back and get to know the man before giving in. The only difference is that she initiated and if the man gets frustrated for not getting sex despite the woman initiating, then he is not the right man. A man that also rely on emotional connection before sex would not get frustrated that a woman initiated on him and he didn't get sex right away. He would patiently build connection w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:31 PM
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When you actually love the person, you listen to them and you empathize with them. If they love you, you don't force them to find someone else but rather accept their feelings for you. However, if they love someone else, then accept that as well instead of forcing them to love you. The concept of deep love as a selfish obsession is why men feels they suffer a lot because they cling to a certain person for years despite their love being unrequited.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:31 PM
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No more different from men approaching women. The only difference is who started the interaction. The same things can happen with the woman getting to know the man if he is serious or not. Admittingly, there is the chance of rejection but an adult woman should be able to handle it well, right? It's better than never speaking your mind and regret it later when the man you are interested in found someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:16 AM
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Woman are free to approach men that they want. That doesn't mean they must have sex with them for doing so. It simply means that the woman is open to getting close with the man and getting to know each other. No different from a man taking the initiative in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:25 AM
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Obsession. That's the negative part of deeper love. I used to feel this way and thought it's true love when I have unrequited love for the same person for years and never letting go. Being irrational to the point they will do stupid things for it and never listen to anyone discouraging it. This is what "deep love" usually means in the context of men. Fortunately, I realized that true love is being empathic towards someone. If they are happy, you are happy and there is no obsessive feelings. I fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:30 PM
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I was not confident at all when I was younger. I believed I was unattractive and my family was just trying to make me feel better but later I realized it was simply an mental image I created for myself. Things changed when I accepted I am at the very least average looking and maybe above average for some specific people. In doing so, my behavior changed so I actively try to improve myself and give off this aura of confidence. In return, people treated me differently and on some occasion shows at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:01 PM
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Physical attractiveness isn't irrelevant no matter the gender. Maybe in everyday and casual life, physical attractiveness is barely relevant but it definitely is when it comes to bed intimacy. It may be true that women are not as visual as men but physical attractiveness still matters. Being average looking isn't a problem with a bit of bed skill but you better have godly bed skill if you are below average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:09 AM
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It's an expectation to be dominant and assertive as a man. Men are expected to protect as the physically stronger sex and being submissive isn't going to help that which is why it is looked down. This extends to relationship with the assumption men knows what they are doing and leads. Obviously, that isn't true because men can also do dumb things from being impulsive. Personally, I exhibit both because while I know how to assert myself to avoid being a doormat, I also know when to submit especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:54 PM
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If men have greater self discipline when it comes to attraction and libido, they would certainly be happier. If men knows that immersing into fantasies is a legit substitute as the real thing, then they would certainly be happier. The problem is that society insists fantasies are not healthy and one must face the real world which is true to an extent. The only way you fail in life is if you aren't happy so who cares if you are single as a man as long as you enjoy life and move at your own pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:42 PM
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Not surprising some would because not every woman out there are attractive. Even if they get attention from desperate men, it's usually a shallow level attraction because they are a woman that can help relieve the men's libido. I'm pretty sure most women want a deeper kind of relationship and would rather be single than have men who only gave them attention because they are a woman and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:20 PM
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Having emotional connection with a fictional woman, as long as it doesn't negatively affect your real life responsibilities, is better than spending your time trying to force yourself to women that obviously doesn't like you and getting disappointed over and over. It's similar to how masturbation is a substitute for lack of sex partner. In the end, we are just meat bags with the same laws of physics acting on us as AIs are when it comes to consciousness. If video games allows us to immerse into …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:45 PM

I also find it "meh" to give oral to women but would absolutely do it if it gets them off and really the only reason I would do it. Heck, I would use sex toys to aid and give them orgasm despite my preference in doing it myself. It's ok to be selfish as long as you know how to give back to their own selfish desires. I won't have sex with a woman incompatible with my tastes so there is no need for me to control what they should or should not like. I prefer not being pegged and so I don't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:23 AM

Is there something wrong with the person that wants to gobble down a cock? There are women out there that has oral fixation and likes sucking cock and even deepthroats. Nobody is saying to force women into deep throating. It's about women that wants to but the size of the penis is an issue from them enjoying it. I also find the same issue with choking and rough sex until I realized there are women who are into it. I personally don't like it but if they want it then I will do it for them. Their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:55 AM

Why is that? Is missionary sex the only normal way to have sex and other kinds of sex are considered as degenerate sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:57 AM

Not as common as women who can't and can only do average and below it. The bigger the dick the less women that can deepthroat it completely while the opposite is true with having a smaller ones. It must be frustrating for the top .1% to have a dick so big you will never experience the joy of full deepthroat and I assume big dicks are also a disadvantage with anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:58 AM

Pretty sure the feeling of being choked is what they want and not actually getting choked. There is also gag reflex and not all woman can control that when dealing with big dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:48 PM

Yeah and small dicks have the advantage of being easy to deepthroat and anal. So it's a tradeoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:48 PM

Big dicks are a curse if you are into being deepthroated because you will never experience your whole length being swallowed without the danger of choking your partner. Big dick isn't always better in that perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:34 PM
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Society has been sensitive about the topic of rape that they even censor the word and I wouldn't be surprised that most men are suppressing those desires to avoid being called a rapist and their life ruined. On the other hand, women fantasizing it loses nothing because they are the "victim" in their fantasy and it's less likely people would interpret it as wanting to be raped for real. Besides, rape fantasies of women are specifically about being so desirable that men loses control and force the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:22 PM
1

Compliment the things they put an effort in doing and not the things they are born with and you'll be fine. Compliment how they did their hair is a welcomed compliment and I often do this to my female coworker and they seem happy whenever I do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:51 PM
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I definitely favor pulling than chasing. There is no reason to waste time on someone that isn't interested in you and have to chase. Rather, pull in someone you are interested in so you know they are interested in you when they respond to it and her not responding gives away the fact she isn't into it and then you can move on. It's not only women that can play the seduction game because men can do it as well if they know how to tickle the fancy of women and pulling them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:31 AM
1

Men are loyal to their stability. Women are loyal to their whims. Women lose focus first. Sounds to me like a bias view of women. Men also have whims which is why some men cheat on a whim because they find a certain woman hot and they are feeling horny at that time. When a man is angry, he is more prone to losing temper first than a woman and he can't help but smash his fist on the wall. The point is that men aren't any better than women and both have their own flaws. It's observation. Don't sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:06 PM
1

Women want men to be, whatever she wants him to be. He must affirm her whims. It's only equal when she does it for him in return. Men also do this to women. That woman must fit to his tastes and liking or otherwise he doesn't pay attention to her. So it's a mutual thing that men and women wants their partner to be compatible with them. There is no moderate version of a whim. Women don't know what the want. Are you a woman to know that or is this an assumption? I'm sure they know what they want l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:15 PM
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A voluntary celibate past 35 is nothing to be concerned because it's an exercise of preference to be alone and independent. An incel past that age is definitely concerning because half of their life they have a chance to improve and be with a partner and yet they are still struggling. That is why I argue men should start focusing on self improvement instead of brute forcing to get a partner. It's a winning situation no matter what because a self sufficient man would be content even if they remai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:39 AM
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You're expecting a greater level of confidence and emotional resilience in the opposite sex than you personally possess. It doesn't take much to have an average social skill. I am an introvert and yet I have enough social skills to hide the fact I prefer being left alone. I am also non confrontational and yet I assert enough confidence so people don't see me as a doormat that can be stepped on. You don't need to go to the extreme, you only need the minimum of being average so women aren't turned…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:39 AM
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It suggests social incompetence and inability to perform the masculine role as initiator, as well as a lack of prior endorsement from other women - the last one in particular is a huge turn-off and can frame a man as an unsafe unknown quantity in women's eyes. I already explained that virginity in this case is simply the symptom of a personality problem and not the cause. Social incompetence, being overly submissive can be a turn off to the average woman because it is expected that an adult man …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:44 PM
2

Men need to be better at sex, and lead, because that's what women want and value. Depending on which women are we talking about. I'm sure there are women that are exclusively submissive and expects men to always lead and knows how to please them. On average, I would think women are both capable of leading and following depending on the situation and that means allowing men to follow if they don't know something. In a serious relationship, this is even better because both side have the patient to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:02 AM
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Men are interesting because they have a manly pride of being better in sex and does the leading and experienced women would emasculate them. If men would swallow that pride and just submit to the idea that experienced women lead in exchange for experienced pleasuring, I'm sure experienced women would be of high demand from men. If sexually successful man means high body count and he is known as bad in bed, he would lose out to a much more inexperienced man that knows how to listen to a woman in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:41 AM
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There is distinction if you seek a life long partner or just a fuck buddy. For the latter, you want to skip all the steps of knowing one another and getting used to each other in favor of experienced lover that can make you feel good right off the bat because that relationship has no potential to last long. It's also the reason why hook ups put high value on physical attractiveness regardless of gender because you want to squeeze out as much sex value as you can from that single encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:27 AM
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I don't really believe in SMV because it makes as much sense as puzzle pieces have different values over another and some puzzle pieces fits more than another. They will only fit within the compatible pieces adjacent to them and nothing else and that is how I see human relationships. I don't really see why the need to train for sex if you are looking for a serious relationship where inexperience isn't a problem because of your emotional bond with one another. It implies you have no bond at all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:27 AM
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Not surprising if she is approaching sex casually and wants her first time to be good and fellow virgins would suck at it. It's different when we are talking about serious relationships and your deep bonding with one another can easily solve the inexperienced problem of being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:12 AM
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I mean there are preferences but I'm pretty sure a woman would have no problem leading herself as long as the man is willing to listen and is not a pushover and can take initiative himself when needed. Everyone starts as a virgin including men and if virgins are that undesirable, then nobody will ever lose their virginity. Men don't mind a woman being a virgin because they pride themselves as leaders in bed and the woman simply following. The reverse feels emasculating for most men and that give…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:06 AM
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That can also be a problem and such woman would have no right to complain if they don't voice out what they want and getting none of it. I guess a solution is asking exactly what they want and a serious woman would not beat around the bush in telling what it is. A good partner always try to know what makes the other feel good instead of their own pride assuming they just know and asking is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:44 AM
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When you appease them, they stop caring. I honestly find this irrational. If appeasement you mean degrading yourself like a servant and serve her like one, then that is the problem. Women like men that can stand equal to them and that means a balance of assertiveness and submissiveness and this is something most people struggle with. Either they are too assertive and scaring off women or they are too submissive and turning off women. Did you try doing the moderate way and see if it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:34 AM
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That can be a problem but if said man is not prideful and willing to listen to what a woman wants, there is no problem. The problem is that most men take offense that a woman would tell them what to do during sex and them feeling emasculated and the result is the man sucking at pleasing their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure that an attractive male virgin is as desirable as female ones. Men being virgin is usually the result of failing to get laid for various reason and rarely because they voluntarily became one. If a man is still a virgin because of undesirable traits that makes him fail constantly in dating, then it's no wonder they are seen as undesirable and virginity is just the result of it. When a man is a virgin because he is independent and lives life as he pleases including self improvement…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:39 PM

Weak and dependent leading to controlling behavior. A clingy person has no confidence that their partner would willingly stay with them and they have the need to control them which leads to conflict and eventual separation. It is unattractive for women that wants monogamous relationship with a man. Your arguments may be applicable to women that have no desire to settle down and just wants to fuck around because they lose nothing with a womanizer leaving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:51 AM
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It's making someone uncomfortable. Certain actions can feel threatening for your own safety. If someone's actions are too assertive that they are crossing a lot of boundaries, it can give off a creepy vibe no matter how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:00 PM
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In theory, unattractive men would not fuck around because having a woman interested in them is as rare as receiving $1000 for a homeless begging on the street. They would cling on to that woman compared to an attractive man that can easily attract other women if he gets bored with the current one and can afford to abuse them. That said, being clingy is a negative trait in itself and is as bad as a womanizer. I would imagine a clingy man would want total control of their partner in the fear of lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:51 PM

Putting personality over attractiveness does not mean attractiveness does not matter. It means that personality have a huge impact on overall attractiveness and can make or break someone in being in a relationship. A good looking guy that is selfish and has disgusting enough personality is a no go while a boring and average looking person with kind personality and knows how to please a woman is easily valued by women. Considering that women are more turned on by situations and being physically s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:05 AM

That's right which is why I say that sex or basically just the need to vent out your libido can be done without the need of a partner. All I am saying is that sex and companionship doesn't have to come in a single package. They can exist separately with libido management being doable alone and having platonic companionship with other people to serve the need for connection with other people. Of course it's always better if you find a romantic partner for companionship that would also help reliev…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:51 AM

With hands/toys and a bit of immersive imagination or just the internet, sexual needs are easily fulfilled especially with the advent of AI that can help you create the perfect virtual partner. If relieving your built up libido is a need, then there are alternatives other than having actual partners. In fact, this method is more convenient and gives more freedom because you are free to change up your object of desire every moment and immerse yourself to whatever your deepest desires are with no …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:42 AM
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I'm pretty sure they would prefer that than adding more mouths to feed although we can also argue that there are clueless people out there that doesn't realize that the people they are looking for is very much a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:07 AM
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For practical reason, you don't want to add more kids than the one you already have and make your life even harder and chaotic. It's no joke raising kids. So it's understandable if you see it as practical preference despite the hypocritical tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:46 AM
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Do not commit into a relationship if you are not sure. The whole reason why it takes a long time before marriage is to feel out one another and determine your compatibility. If you aren't feeling it, then you can leave with little consequences. Breaking up after marriage for no reason other than you don't feel like it anymore is not acceptable and is as bad as men cheating on their wives just because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:42 AM
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Which claims? You means countries outside the west which you base your statistics on are still populating despite not meeting the western standard of attractiveness of men which all women on the world apparently have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:23 PM
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If so, then why are countries whose male population do not meet those traits can still find a partner if women objectively rejects anyone that does not meet the minimum? Are you sure this is simply not preference just as men would rather have a slim and busty women over a chubby flat one? Isn't sex an expression of attraction? Would you have sex with someone you aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:07 PM
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It's simple logic and reasoning. Looks and height are preference and subjective or otherwise half of the population would not breed because they are objectively below a certain objective metrics of looks and height. Doing things for your own self improvement is just bringing out the best in you and increasing the chance of people who are compatible with you to notice you while not causing disappointment because it is something you do for yourself. Without disappointment, you don't resent women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:45 PM
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Why not women shooting their shot for a change? Equality, right? If women expect men to respect boundaries, then women should take initiative to counterbalance the fact men are now leaving women alone unless women wanted them to interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:39 PM
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Attraction is determined by compatibility and not some objective metrics of looks and height. I have seen couples that are below average in attractiveness and social status yet they stick together until death. It's about bringing out the best in you as an individual and a person noticing it because they are compatible with you. Doing it for yourself means you are an independent person. You don't improve to please others but because you want to. In doing so, people would simply gravitate towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:10 PM

If a man is always vulnerable and unstable, that isn't a good thing especially with a partner. Being vulnerable simply means it is an occasional outlet for all the emotions that men holds back by being stoic and a pillar of strength. Whether you like it or not, those emotions needs an outlet and it's either by being vulnerable and crying your heart out or lash out violently in anger. I'm sure one is preferable over the other. Both men and women can be that trusted someone. The idea that being oc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:55 AM
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You don't force meets. It just happens naturally as you interact with people. Forcing it is simply attracting disappointments and failures especially if the other person can feel your desperation to be in a relationship. Rather, live life to the fullest as yourself and continue to improve. Whether you find a relationship this way or remain single, it's never a wasted effort because you have found happiness within yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:55 PM
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If the man finds it shameful because he cannot trust his own partner to accept it, then he partly bears the consequence of his actions. Either he changes and fits to the ideal of his partner or stay true to himself and leaves because of incompatibility. As for the woman, either she compromises and accepts this side of her partner or also leave because of incompatibility. She should respect the wishes of that man about keeping his habit a secret since it's not anything harmful. The whole point in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:31 PM
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The more compatible we are and have things in common, the higher the value she is to me. For example, I am open to what people would say are supernatural so a partner interested and open to it is a fun and compatible one. When it comes to physical attributes, I am not shy to say I like beautiful women in general. Busty and for some reason I like shoulder length hair women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:00 PM
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Islamic society like current Afghanistan is what society that prioritizes men look like. It takes 2 women to equate a single man's testimony if I am not mistaken. Men's comfort always take priority above women and women should be submissive to what men wants or else they get the stick. In the perspective of someone sitting high in their throne, being moved down or others being moved up to their level is oppression. It will take a while before equality between men and women is seen as equal and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:50 PM
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When you are equal with one another, you deliberate decisions with each other until an agreement is reached. This is no different from how a jury works to ensure fairness. So a third option does exist and that's what most healthy relationships do. Granted, there are women out there that prefers being submissive or dominant all the time but they are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:55 PM
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It's less on dominance and more on passion. Everyone wants to be desired and women are no different. A passionate man would be considered as dominant to a casual observer because he is assertive and intense on how he acts and when you translate this to sex, then it means he takes the lead in pleasing the woman and expresses intense desire for her. This is a massive turn on for the receiver that focuses on the receiving sensation and looks will not matter that much at this point. In contrast, men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:00 AM
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Empathy is a big requirement for socialization. Without it, you would often misread what others are trying to say and causing conflict. It's all about the desire to relate to others and having experiences so you can relate with them through it. Empathy is also important in a long term relationship so this is a good foundation to have. That's the basic gist of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:18 PM
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Neither. I am who I am and if she doesn't like me as I am then it's fine to get rejected. Like they say, there are plenty of fishes in the sea that are potentially compatible with me and even then I can manage myself being alone and free of the burdens of a relationship. That said, my personality leans towards safe choice but I have some rough edges around me that can be considered as risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:40 PM
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As long as it's not an obsession consuming her life and simply another way to relieve libido, why not? Is porn any better than fantasy in your head except less effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:32 PM

In an ideal relationship, both side calls the shot and can work out differences. If you are in a relationship that is one sided and do not feel comfortable with it, then you are not in a good relationship because of bad compatibility. Do not enter a relationship for shallow reasons like looks alone or similar hobbies because personality and compatibility with another is a major factor in have a successful LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:25 PM
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I do find it reasonable though to stop watching porn when you have your partner. However, it's a fact we all need space and some variety. We eat variety of food not only because it is healthy but also because it would get boring eating the same food over and over. So porn can be said to be satisfying that need for variety without actually spending emotional and physical energy on someone else. The bad thing about actual cheating is that the limited physical, mental, and emotional resources are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:10 PM
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Why would I want to be in that environment when I can just find an environment where the burden if equally shared? Body functions can't be avoided but certain expectations can be avoided depending on where you live or just with certain people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:51 AM
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Not having to deal with menstruation is a huge advantage of being a man. Just thinking about it happening every month just feels tiresome and horrible with the cramps. I am also the type that do not like much attention so being a man is an advantage when I prefer people leaving me alone. Just thinking about women have to deal with being hit on by random men sounds exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:24 PM
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You can have platonic friends for emotional support and have immersive fantasy of romantic sex with the perfect partner and situation. You don't have to force yourself and anyone to be in a relationship in order to achieve that. The problem is when people think it is a must then they desperately struggle to try and be in a relationship which will most likely end in failure and end up making their mental health worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:18 PM
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I see. It all makes sense now. Is this power the same kind of power as men that forces other people to submission or more of a soft power of being respected and they submit willingly? Do women prefer to fantasize being submissive to men or do they prefer taking control of them? Or is this just a personality thing that submissive women irl would also fantasize being submissive in fantasy? I hope you are fine with all these questions I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:40 PM
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I have shameful fantasies as well that I will never share but I freely indulge them in fantasy which is why I am just puzzled why the need to avoid the guilty pleasure of being a nympho slut in fantasies when no one will ever know about it. I totally get the love triangle part because I have watched anime meant for women like this. Can you give some insight about women wanting bad boys? In this particular anime, one of the love interest is a prince that is a bloodthirsty warrior who is basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:45 PM
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Is it shameful to be a nympho or a slut? Speaking of, I know as a man that having a harem of women is one of the top fantasy for men. Do women also fantasize a harem of men pleasing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:57 AM
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Do women fantasized being desired by men? I assume rape fantasies are not actually rape but just men asserting themselves from desiring women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:27 AM
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I didn't cry but I had a friend once who I suspect liked me romantically and it feels bad because she isn't my type and I don't want to force myself to her nor reject her because I know the feeling of being rejected. Fortunately, she moved on and found herself someone that actually likes her and they are now married with a child. Even now, I still don't see her that way so I'm relieved I didn't force myself and regret it later. I would imagine some women are empathic enough to feel bad for the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:24 AM
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You can call it luck or you can call it fate if you are a spiritual person. Either way, there is no point playing the numbers game. You will just to have to work on yourself to be the best person you can be and just go with the flow until you meet that person that is compatible with you. Too many people are focused on getting in a relationship that they neglect self improvement and their relationship ended in failures because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:19 AM
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Depends on the culture. There are certain cultures before colonial times where casual sex is so rampant and normal that Spanish missionaries were horrified when they first arrived and had it banned. I'm pretty sure it was religion that made causal sex immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:35 PM

Having family and friends greatly helps with that. When you need someone, you can always turn towards them. As for the need for intimacy, don't underestimate immersing yourself into the world of fantasy. As long as you know the difference between the real world and fantasy, there is nothing wrong with temporarily immersing yourself and fantasizing with a woman you are attracted to whether they are real or not. That's basically how I deal with my intimacy needs which is why I can survive without …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:03 AM
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You don't need a romantic partner to cure loneliness because you can have friends around you. The problem is most men claim their loneliness can be cured by having a romantic partner which is also another way of saying they need a sex partner because friends can't obviously fulfill that part. That need for sex provided by their companion is the difficult part. It's not against the rules to have friends while relieving any sexual desires through other ways like jerking off while fantasizing or pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:23 AM

It implies you would eventually leave the woman when they grow old in search for a younger one either by cheating on your wife or leaving her. That's not a healthy mentality to have. You pick a partner because they are compatible with you that will last for a lifetime and you don't need to search for others. That is unless you just want to fuck around literally and never settle then that mentality is understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:18 AM
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Men usually has high libido and the need for release regularly. That's basically why men have the need to be sexually active and some are not content with just porn or fantasizing because they want the real thing. Personally, fantasizing is as good as the real thing for me if you can immerse yourself in it. The best part is you can fantasize any woman, real or fictional, with no commitment whatsoever and even make up temporary romantic relationship with them to truly immerse yourself. That fulfi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:11 AM
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I mean quite a lot of women like muscular men though not to the extreme extent of body building so I see your point there. It does help but as long as you keep your body healthy it shouldn't be a struggle for you when it comes to confidence and how other people would perceive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:57 PM
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Well yeah, why would a man be disgusted by multiple women or even care that another man was with women if they aren't trying to date that man? So it's all within the subjective view of men then and there is nothing disgusting about it? If women don't find a used pp disgusting then it must mean men are making a mountain over a mole hill. So like, she was giving it to other men while he was struggling to get a date? You can get with that women being easy and pleasing men and making them happy. Is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:36 PM
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If you are actually in a bad place, you don't pull yourself together. That's a bad mentality to have if you say that anyone in a bad place can never get out of it. Mental state is much more fluid than the rigid human body so it's not equivalent. I think it is you being dismissive of what I have been through and implying that nobody has to make an effort to pull themselves out of it. Do you think I would have been able to pull myself out if I did nothing about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:57 PM
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Gym does help but keeping yourself healthy in general is always a good thing. This is something I do with myself and I do feel confident and not bothered by expectations because of that. It only makes sense since going for the extreme of either too thin or too fat isn't attractive at all and being in the middle and moderate zone is where it is at.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:46 PM
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I was in a bad place because I was feeling miserable and considered ending it all. My advice is based on my own experience and I would have certainly took the black pill if I read about it in the internet before I was able to pull myself together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:46 PM
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The only issue I have is that men with high body count with women are respected but not vice versa. Is it out of disgust? Then why is a pp that has been in many holes not treated like a toothbrush that has been in many mouths? Men are praised for being with multiple women because it's insanely difficult to achieve and most men won't ever achieve it. If you think about it, a woman that has been with multiple men can be thought of as a woman that likes to please a lot of men especially if said wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:18 AM
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Which means men are more likely to destroy society as well or otherwise wars would be very rare just because men are the leaders and preventing women from leading and causing a lot more wars. You would think that men being men is enough to maintain a relatively peaceful world for as long as humanity exists and yet humanity obviously has been in a constant state of war because of men leading society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:31 AM
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Men equally destroys society as well. I'm sure you would agree that a majority of wars that was instigated was done by a man, correct? So historically, men are more likely to destroy society than women and men are assertive enough to put the blame on women with just about anything knowing that they can just physically beat a woman if they dare oppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:18 AM
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I agree there are indeed evil women out there just as there are evil men out there. But generalizing women is as bad as women generalizing men as evil. I'm sure you would not like that. Why do I care all of that as long as I am not hurting anyone in my pursuit of happiness even as a single person? All I know is that I am not buying the vocal minority's narrative that the majority is out to get me and become their pawn to become part of their narrative and push it onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:08 AM
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No, disgusted because they touched other pps. How is it different from pps being inside other holes? Is it because of STD? It's no different from a man that has his pp in different holes and is now carrying STD himself. Would you want a toothbrush that has been in the mouth of another? So it's not about an experienced women being emasculating then? If so, why do men praise men that has been with multiple women and not vice versa when both are disgusting for being in multiple holes and received m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:50 PM
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I think that explains the reason why most think they are ugly if they think the average is represented by people showing their faces in social media. It really made me wonder where are they getting this idea of average being actual good looking when the average is, at the very least, about not being repulsive to look at at and just being plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:27 PM
1

Then we aren't far off from one another and yet I am defiant from the expectations I need to be taller than a woman or a woman wouldn't date anyone below a certain height. It's about not trying to fit into expectations of some vocal minority because it's simply accepting the fact that humanity has diverse tastes. Just as there are men that likes smaller boobs despite the fact most men in general like it big, there are women that likes men within their own height or even shorter even if we are to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:14 PM
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What is the average height? I am around 5'7 and I am confident with women even if I see myself as average because I know my capabilities and limitations. An average face does not catch attention but a compatible personality does. An average face does not repulse anyone so having romantic relationship with one is possible with the help of compatible personality. Comparing yourself with others is why people end up being insecure. Most people aren't interesting to everyone but they are interesting …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:54 PM
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How would you know it is the average? When people convinces you that the average is a super model, then you would obviously see yourself as ugly as an average. Besides, the point is about not comparing yourself to anyone in the first place. Women are attracted to interesting men with at least average looks. If you have more interesting traits than the average, then even being below average isn't that much of a problem. Not all women will be attracted to you, that's a fact. It's also a fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:16 PM
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That's because I was there many years ago. I genuinely believed I was ugly until I realized that I am just comparing myself with others. Once I accept I am myself I begin to see I have what it takes to attract another which resulted with me having my first relationship. It failed because I was too immature to properly care for a partner back then but it's proof that I am at the very least average looking and some would find me attractive. You don't have to be charismatic because you only need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:21 PM
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The point is you don't want attention from people you are not attracted to. Even men have preference and they don't want attention from women they don't find attractive. Would a man that prefers younger women like it if a hag older than him hits on him? That's the same feeling women feels if strangers they don't even know cat calls them. Pretty sure your partner would appreciate you cat calling them if they are into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:31 PM
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I used to think like you until I realized that comparing yourself with another is one reason why you would think you are ugly. An average looking guy can still be attractive with interesting personality and with the right partner. That said, the less average your looks are the more you have to compensate with your personality and the more narrow the amount of partner who are going to be interested in you. If all else fails, just have some independence on your happiness as single instead of wallo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:25 PM
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The point still stands that being overly eager is never attractive and one has to have some self restraint. Some women are more independent than others and if you are someone that is overly eager, then you obviously are not compatible with her. There are women that are more needy and will appreciate your eagerness to help so if you feel like you can't restrain yourself from being too eager, then you might as well break up and find women that is more compatible with your overly eager personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:55 PM
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It still comes down to personal compatibility with regards to personality and looks and it doesn't have to be on this sub. I don't really care about this pill thing and all I care is that she shares interests with me, difference being complementary, and is good looking. Everyone else feels like a stranger that I don't want to interact with outside being friends or acquaintance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:13 PM
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Being overly eager is not attractive and can be annoying. Have you ever had an acquaintance who is too eager to please you and avoid offending you that they basically try to roleplay as a servant and you as their master? Unless you are into that, many would find it annoying and just awkward. Just act normally like you would with any other person and you should be fine. If you don't act overly eager around men, then don't be overly eager around women either. Being moderate is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:07 PM
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Are AIs legal to have a job? Unless they do then they are not as flexible as a human partner that can either work at home or work a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:53 AM
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I have to shell out that much just to have a partner when I can just naturally date someone that won't cost much assuming compatibility and we would work together covering costs of our partnership. I am more practical minded so I don't mind my partner working together with me as long as we have quality time and an AI can't obviously work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:20 PM
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The price alone is off putting for me. I would rather try my luck with natural humans than spend money like that even if said AI would be perfectly compatible with me. If I somehow ended up with one, then I would treat it like how I would treat a natural human with actual affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:03 AM
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Disgusted because the woman has more experience than them and they feel emasculated because of it? I understand the perspective as a man myself and I also held this perspective until I realized that the disgust I felt is a result of a woman outdoing a man when it comes to sex. The fact a man having multiple sex partners is respected made me realized that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:44 AM
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In terms of variety, person B. Person A is experienced with one particular person but not much else. Person A's partner has particular taste and that's the only experience they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:43 PM
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Having more experience with different people means you have variety of experience on how each person would react to certain things. You do have a point that a monogamous relationship can have more sex experience but it's mostly attuned to one another and not much variety. But what can I say because I am just speculating after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:07 AM
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So an inexperienced person would lead an experienced person with sex? Do you think that's a good idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:21 AM
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Well sex is a battle in a way for some people if dominating the other in a good way is winning. If you are inexperienced then you would most likely be submissive to your more experienced partner and some men do not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:51 AM
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The more bodies you have, the more experienced you are and the more intimidating you are for the less experienced. One needs to have the balls and skill to stand up against a veteran and beat them in their own game. That concept both applies to warriors in the battlefield and to the amount of sex partners you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:00 AM

Living with your parents while not being a dead weight is simply smart living. Why pay for a house for a single person when you can share it with other people and minimize the expenses between the people in the house? I guess privacy can be an issue and western society seems to be big on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:56 AM
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Having a negative observation of your surroundings and holding in those negative feelings it produces causes suicide. There are people who are in worse situation that continues to live on simply because they are optimistic and not internalizing the negativity they experienced whether it be through religion or some other coping mechanism. Whatever that method may be, the common reason they thrive is maintaining positivity and lessening negativity that you hold. If you acknowledge that men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:35 AM
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Suicide happens because of the overwhelming negative feeling that is being bottled up leading to suicide as the perceived escape from it. Crying without venting your feelings out to others is as useful as puking in your mouth and then swallowing most of it back. Humans are discarded by others when they aren't useful regardless of gender. It's not something unique to men because women are discarded by men they deemed to have no more value like having a body count. Men have standard on what a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:18 AM
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Men do cry they just don't do it in public. Believe it or not, when men do cry in public, it's women that ridicule them even progressive women. This is exactly what needs to change because having to bottle those feeling is bad and contributes to negativity and hatred among men. You are just supporting my argument that something need to change with how a crying man is treated because it promotes bottling of negative feeling and leading towards anger and hatred with violence being the result once …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:11 AM
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The most positive change would be allowing men to release their negative emotion by crying as they vent out their grievances. If men are not supposed to cry then they vent it out through anger and violence and holding it in leads to perpetual hatred and mental issues. You cannot bottle that feeling forever and men not allowed to cry because it's supposedly not manly is a big culprit on why we see hatred among extremist men. The first step is push this idea of crying as something humans do and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:49 PM
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That is pretty much what is happening. Nobody wants to feel they are wrong with their views and beliefs and so they build an echo chamber to validate their views and become hostile to anyone that disagrees with them. How I see it is just the extreme minority manipulating the views of the moderate so they too become extreme like themselves and gather an army to push their agenda in an attempt to overpower the other. I certainly don't want to be a pawn and be manipulated by some extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:26 PM

Do you see how bad it is to generalize a group of people? If it's bad to generalize all short guys are insecure with their height then it's also bad to generalize women like tall guys. If the woman was clear she has no problem with your height, just accept it. You are trying to impress a certain woman and not other men saying you need to be this tall in order to be acceptable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:14 AM

Is the guy insecure about his height because the woman was saying so or was he insecure about his height because he heard from other men saying so? The problem is generalizing women preference and makes as much sense as generalizing all men like big boobs. Sure, most men do like big boobs but I'm sure most wouldn't mind with a smaller one if the woman has other qualities they like and some would even prefer smaller ones. In the same way, there are indeed women that like tall guys but most would …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:14 AM

Maybe just remind them that being insecure about height is no different from women being insecure about boobs. Maybe they will have some perspective that while most men like big boobs, most wouldn't mind smaller one if they really like the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:14 AM

If you read carefully, it's because the guy is insecure about his height and creating his own problems that the woman eventually got tired of it. If the guy was indifferent about his own height, I'm pretty sure it could have went differently. If all men are like that then it would make sense she wouldn't want to date anyone shorter than that and go through the same insecurity problem all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:11 AM
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I don't really mind as long as they know how to make it look good. It's a form of self expression after all like clothing. Sadly, brightly colored hair are almost always associated with certain woke people that can be unhinged most of the time and giving colorful hair bad rep because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:18 AM
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Yet you do nothing to prevent that by focusing your attention on those men that is causing the problem. Men are supposed to lead, right? So why not lead changes so the top 5% stops sleeping around and solving women promiscuity? Instead of picking on women, why not pick on our equals as men and get them to stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:33 PM
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Yes and they are apparently responsible for all promiscuous women sleeping around because majority of women only sleep with the top 5% of men, right? Remove that top 5% so they don't sleep around and women will never be able to get laid unless it is with their partner. Just a thought, if these women have high body count and they only sleep with top 5% men, doesn't that mean chads don't discriminate of their body counts and will sleep with them regardless? Doesn't that contradict the idea that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:03 PM
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Then why are we not telling those men to stop sleeping around since they have the power to dictate whether they sleep with the woman or not? If the man says no, the woman can't do anything and would be too weak to force themselves on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:04 PM
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But if the man says no, would you agree that women can't do anything? Even if they try to force themselves, do you agree that chad is strong enough to fight them off? Men says no, women don't get laid and therefore women stop sleeping around. The solution is simple and yet I don't see men pushing this as the solution. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:04 PM
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And men also have that option especially since they are the ones that initiates sex and women just go with the flow. If the man has no boner, the woman cannot do anything. Man has greater control whether a woman would get laid or not and yet I don't see anyone focusing on those men to stop sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:04 PM
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I think a better solution is telling those men to stop fucking around and we would solve the women sleeping with men. Women cannot do anything if men does not want to have sex with them even if the women likes them. If men can't stop fucking around then it's clear that those minority of men are the problem and promiscuous women are just the product of that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:04 PM
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Why does it fall on the women when men are the one who initiates to sleep around? No men wanting to sleep around, women can't do anything and won't be able to sleep around as well. If men are permissible to sleep around because that's their nature and nothing wrong with it, then the same can be said with women that sleep around. Monogamy is quite rare among mammals so you can argue it's natural for both men and women to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:46 AM
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Men initiates, correct? If men do not initiate, women cannot do anything about it. Men makes the first move while women simply reacts and therefore the root of the problem are men that makes the first move in sleeping around and adding body counts to women. If women cannot help themselves and they are wrong because of that, then we can say that men that cannot help themselves are also wrong and should not be excluded on what is wrong with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:40 AM
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I assume these are the same men that promiscuous women sleep with and yet I don't see men calling those men out to stop doing it. If they stop then women would also stop sleeping around, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:24 AM
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Then we should talk about men encouraging other men to sleep around and their value as husband diminishes because of that. Isn't that contradictory to what men want which is to become a good husband someday?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:02 AM
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Would that same logic apply to men that sleep around? A man that has slept with too many women would not be able to stop just because he got married and therefore not a husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:25 AM

I dress in a certain way because it is either comfy or I personally like it. That's something I have to change though because sometimes what I personally like does not always look presentable to others. I would imagine women can also feel that way and dress the way they are for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:06 AM
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LTR. I don't have time and energy for casual ones and constantly seeking for new ones. Having a partner is always good to help each other out especially later in life. The only standard I have is compatibility. What I like, she also likes and our differences can be worked out and complementary. It's already a given she is attractive and in return I will try my best to be attractive to her as well. It isn't fair if I am the only one enjoying the physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:30 PM
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Man vs bear is better understood similar to Pascal's wager. Choose right, nothing bad happens. Choose wrong, and one of them is a worse outcome. If you choose wrong with the bear, you end up dying. The end. If you choose wrong with the man, you will have to experience humiliation of being raped and unimaginable torture before ending up dead when they are done. That's not even counting the fact that you died to a bear because either it was just protecting something or it was hungry while you died…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:03 AM
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I do agree women should also take the initiative when it comes to dating. I know one success story of a woman taking the initiative with a man and now they are happily married. If women believe in equality, then women initiating is also fair game. The problem is they are still trying to fit the expectation of society just as men do which is the man initiates and the woman simply waits. It's mostly a subconscious feeling from the result of growing up knowing this is the expectation of society. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:06 PM
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She is 100% responsible of her actions. Too much of something is bad and she found that out. The extremist side wouldn't admit that after making a stand that they can do whatever they want and not regret it. I'm pretty sure the average woman have seen it from miles away that it is a bad idea to sleep with 100 men in a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:53 AM
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Attraction is about having compatible interests and personality and niceness is just the bland basics. Nobody is going to be romantically attracted to you just because you are nice. Gentle as in too formal that they feel like they are strangers or acquaintance than romantic partners, that I can agree would be a good reason for separation. Gentle can also mean lukewarm when it comes to relationship and barely any passion that would make it exciting. If you are too gentle because you have no idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:30 PM
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It can go either way so it's a bit of both with being cautious and yet give the benefit of the doubt about the accused and will stay that way until we have the full story on what happened. Misunderstandings can sometimes create situations where the accuser is wrong though not out of malicious intent and the person being accused is innocent but was unable to clearly express the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:50 PM
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It means that women do want genuine nice guys but assholes knew how to hide behind a mask to deceive them and took it off once they are in which then perpetuates the idea that women prefer bad boys. Attraction is based on compatibility which is the meat and spices in a meal and being nice is just the base like the potatoes or rice. Only someone desperately hungry would eat plain potatoes/rice because it is preferable you eat something more tasty like the meat and spices. But by that definition p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:34 PM
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I explained that assholes can wear the nice mask that falls off when they are in a relationship which makes them the bad boys that "nice guys" complain about. Alternatively, being informal and casual with one another is considered as an asshole behavior by "nice guys" because being formal all the time even with someone you are familiar with is the only proper thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:09 PM
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It's easy for women to get attention but not the attention of men that they actually want to interact with. It's not easy for men to get the attention of women but they have easier time having privacy and avoiding unwanted attention which women struggles with. So it depends on perspective because both men and women have their own struggles when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:46 AM

It definitely exists among the extremists. It would be wrong to say misandry does not exist but it wouldn't be wrong to say the majority of women are not misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:39 AM
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I already defined niceness to you which is not being hostile and has some degree of empathy. Taking some time to listen to your coworker's problem is being nice. Helping solve their problem is beyond nice and actual passion in helping others. Not listening because you are indifferent is not considered nice and can be interpreted as an asshole behavior. Again, niceness is simply edible but not tasty. Passion is what makes relationship work because it is the spice and flavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:36 PM
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Which means you are not hostile and at the very least empathic towards others and that is considered as baseline. Being indifferent towards others is not considered as nice and can be interpreted as being an asshole. A guy minding his own business and not bothering anyone can be considered as nice by most people. I would argue most people would default to calling everyone as nice until proven otherwise. It's basically a generic term for not being hostile to anyone and has some degree of empathy …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:30 PM
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Neutral means you aren't hostile to anyone and that's considered as nice. That's why niceness is usually not enough to enter into a relationship and needs something more like actual compatibility when it comes to interest or personality in general. Passion is something needed in a relationship and not simply being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:16 PM
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Being nice is baseline and to maximize the chance of being in a relationship is to find people compatible with your true self. If your true self is already nice, then there is no problem. But if your true self is full of hatred, then we have a problem and some resort to wearing the nice mask to hide that negative part of themselves. The result is either they got found out and these "nice guys" complain about it or their mask falls off once they are in a relationship and they become the bad boys …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:47 PM
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Doing something good and seeing the other happy is enough for someone that is genuinely nice. Unless you were met with hostility for doing that, I don't think anyone would take that as a bad outcome. It's a problem if you are being nice and expect favors in doing so like sex or relationship and get mad when it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:23 PM
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They are extremist and one shouldn't take them seriously. They are as bad as men insisting that women should be completely submissive and never resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:15 PM
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I don't disagree with that because all humans are capable of that. The only point is don't generalize each other in a debate and let extremists deceive you that their extreme views are that of the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:09 PM
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I would agree with that when you are outside mingling with strangers but not when you are debating on the internet. Generalizing men leads to men generalizing women as well in debates and leading to associating extreme behavior of the minority with the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:55 AM
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Keeping your options open as in you don't fixate on that one woman you have been for years who left you from obvious incompatibility is good. There is a fine line between loyalty and fixation and that line is empathy. As long as your partner is loyal to you, then do the same. When it's over, let go and move on. Do not generalize women if you don't want all men to be generalized as abusive or creeps. I would argue that majority of women just wanted a partner that they can get along and compatible…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:27 PM

I am a failure of an adult if I as a man are unable to do any of that. Sure, maybe one of us would do it more often than the other but it's a must that both are able to do adult responsibilities like that. If one is unable because they are busy with something else or is sick, then the other takes over. It's as simple as teamwork between couples. It is understandable that men usually work outside while the woman works inside but they are not mandatory and it really depends on the couple themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:58 PM
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Why do you care when they laugh when you are a man that can stand on his own belief? It's obvious they are not compatible to who you are and having a relationship with them by lying is just asking for conflict later down the line. Be honest to who you are means you weed out everyone that is not compatible with you while at the same time making sure that those who accepts you genuinely do so and will less likely have problems later on. If you goal is to impress superficially so you can get a one …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:36 PM
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Love is not black and white but a spectrum. Your love for everyone varies and it all involves empathy and understanding. Romantic love is simply more intimate variant of love but operates on the same principle of empathy and understanding. If you love someone regardless of money, then you understand them at a deeper level and that's not something you can force on yourself but something that comes naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:49 PM
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If you mean by indifferent you mean having self control so you don't look like someone desperate that makes you look unattractive, then yes you would have more women attracted to you. You don't need to have a woman to have that mindset because you can have it from the get go. Arguably, having relationship experience does help in getting your emotions under control and your approach to women is more moderate than inexperienced ones that just acts on impulse that makes them look desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:45 PM
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They are not obligated because wanting children is something personal and I am sure a lot of women would want that and doesn't needed to be told as long as they can afford it. It's only a problem when men that wanted children or believes child bearing is an obligation and force it on a woman that is unwilling to have one. The solution is find a woman that also wanted a child and make sure both of you can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:03 AM
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I thought I did things right and got cheated on but later I realized I had a lot of flaws especially when it comes to empathy and maturity and I was just too prideful to see and accept it. Turns out I was too focused on myself and expected my partner to just go on with the flow and the result is a failed relationship. Now I am working towards being empathetic towards women so I won't repeat that same mistake if I ever found myself in a relationship. Success in a relationship is about listening t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 10:32 PM
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I would argue hate is worse and only someone that seeks attention would want that. I would rather people be indifferent towards me than outright hate me. Indifference is neither love nor hate and so someone that you are indifferent about seeks attention, you either ignore it because you lack interest or you respond out of curiosity. I would agree that most women are indifferent to men that they don't know but disagree they would be disgusted by it. Those who reacts negatively towards men hate me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:39 PM
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I don't subscribe to any pill and all my views are my own realizations. I will always be no pill and remain free from expectations of being associated with certain pills. No pills means no expected stance and I can form my opinions however I want. Changing to a color is not likely because then I would abandon what I stand for which is forming my own opinion and no expectations of any colored pill. Although I am flexible with my views and open to changing it, nothing can get me to change to a cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:21 PM
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That is true but it takes two to tango and one side has to lead by example and I'm sure you would agree that men are suitable to lead by example, right? We are not anymore children that needs to follow someone else in order to start doing things, right? We have manly pride to uphold and lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:23 PM
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The women that doesn't want conflict are silent because they do not want to join in it while the one eager to fight are speaking loudly. Do not let the extreme minority take control of your emotions and deceive you. If it worked on me it would also worked on others. It's about having pride of standing on your own and not needing a woman to be happy and this is coming from someone that have strong desire for beautiful women. Think about it, children have trouble controlling their emotions and imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:48 AM
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I don't think women don't want peace between men. Rather, the extreme loud minority does not and them being the most visible is why you associate all women as sharing their views. The same is happening to the other side and the result is a snowball effect of moderates being pulled to extremism from the assumption the extreme minority represents the majority. I know the perspective of an incel as someone who is currently single and I know the feeling of wanting intimacy with a woman especially si…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:54 AM
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I won't completely disagree with that considering that the other extreme end antagonizes them and making them turn away. All I am saying is that a proper debate with no hostility or antagonism on either side would result to better understanding and reducing misogyny and incel hate through that. It's much better than an echo chamber where your views are never challenged and are reinforced over and over until it basically becomes your identity and not just views that you hold. Being in an echo cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:36 AM
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Empathy is how misogyny and incel hate would be lessened. Misogyny and incel hate are the result of men looking through the eyes of men and assuming it applies to women. I won't be surprised if those who say women are very likely to cheat with attractive men are projecting themselves and that's exactly what they would do if they can get away with cheating with a more attractive women than their current partner. An echo chamber is not the solution but rather spaces like this exact sub where oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:35 AM
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Empathy is about relating to someone and that means you have to relate to how women sees the world. That means you have to think like a woman to understand them and a lot of men would find that gay and call empathic men gay as well. However, that's how you bridge the gap in understanding women instead of seeing through the lens of a man and assume this is how a woman sees and feel which I noticed a lot of men do. If you think you are man enough and is straight, then trying to relate to women and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:41 PM

t's better to have small minority of people be hard yes, than everyone being "just so-so" toward you. That is correct and it's a matter of finding someone that is compatible with you that makes them a hard yes towards you. A guy can go from having 0-1 dates in a month to several the next month, and I don't think it's because he's gotten significantly more charismatic in a short span. I would say having experience with dates makes one better when it comes to being charismatic as long as they lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:50 AM
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Then we can say that those who wished that the man pays had a date with someone who won't treat the dinner date as a transaction towards sex. It's not a surprise though that societal expectations is strong among men and women that men must always pay for dates but there is nothing inherently wrong with splitting the bill. The man can always ask if it's fine to pay for the woman so they are on the same page with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:39 AM

They will only work harder if they really wanted that guy. Otherwise, it just discourages them because they are simply an option and they can get someone else that values them more. On the other hand, if the guy is only dating her because he is desperate for literally anything, then that isn't good either because being liked out of desperation is not something anyone would want. How I interpret this is that a guy being able to date several women are just that attractive and charismatic which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:28 AM
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That is true some women that value themselves less but for most women they are just trying to avoid leading men on thinking a simple dinner date means getting laid. There is nothing complicated about it. A woman that values themselves less wouldn't try to flex on others because they don't see themselves as high value anyway. They are not the majority and I'm sure the average woman has enough self respect that a dinner date is not equal to getting laid or otherwise there would be less men complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:24 AM
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Not really. It's about men who thinks buying enough dinner is enough to get sex and it shows when some men complain how women just use them to get free dinner and nothing else. What do you think does that imply? It's obvious these women value themselves more while at the same time do not want to lead some men on thinking a free dinner is enough to get laid. That is why they prefer to split the bill instead of having a man they just knew pay for them and potentially use it as an excuse of being e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:05 AM
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That's the mindset of some men though and not women. Some men thinks women are worth the dinner date and for them to refuse is basically robbery. To avoid that, splitting bills means there is no business transaction happening of the men buying dinner in exchange of sex. However, there is nothing wrong with spoiling your gf or sugar babies as long as everyone is in agreement of the setup with either the man not minding it at all or the woman not minding providing sex in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:27 PM
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If you cave in to being penalized that you feel is wrong, then you aren't manly enough to take a stand for what is right. From what I heard, most women would rather split the bill and avoid being indebted to the man so they can then request for sex in return. It's not rare to find that kind of woman as long as you don't restrict your search. Just make sure to avoid those women that obviously doesn't match your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:54 PM
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If you give a damn about people that sees it as a weakness, then that would make you weak yourself for caving in to their views. Caring isn't bad but being too formal because you don't feel comfortable which many would interpret as being nice is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:48 PM
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If you are too formal to the point it feels like you are talking with a stranger or a coworker, then it's no surprise it didn't end up into anything. When there is compatibility between two people, there is an air of informality in between and won't mind showing off behavior that would be considered rude by strangers or your boss at work. It's not actually being a bad boy but it's about being one of the guys and being comfortable with one another. Too much difference means you don't feel comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:16 PM
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I think it's time for men to be independent from women. Not in a sense they don't need women but rather they are able to function and find happiness whether they are with a woman or not. This is something I am personally trying to do ever since I broke up with my ex and I am doing it with success. Whether I will find a wife someday doesn't bother me anymore because I take pride that I am able to live life on my own and have full control of my emotions and desires when it comes to women. Just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:33 PM

I actually believe that line but it applies to men that knows how to please them and engage with their kinks and fantasies. The problem is that most men are either too selfish to bother with women's pleasure or they believe women don't find sex pleasurable and don't bother as well. The result is women that feels indifferent towards sex if sex itself isn't enjoyable. To put it in perspective, imagine as a man just lying there and the woman just sits on your face until she cums and then finishes u…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:54 AM
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CNC and domination is about passion and has nothing to do with being bad or cruelty. It's the feeling of being desired so intensely that your partner roughly dominates you and that is a massive turn on. It's the opposite of being indifferent and your partner is lukewarm or bored in doing things. That said, you can be a nice guy and yet do all of these things as long as you keep in mind it's about passion. I personally don't do well when it comes to being the dominant one but whenever I remember …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:53 PM
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If men sees themselves as sole provider of money, then they will meet women with similar mindset and be used like so. If your mindset is much more balanced and accept that women can also help with money matters, then you would most likely meet women of similar mindset that would gladly help contribute. It all comes down to the fact some men sees women as materialistic and attracting the same type of women in their lives and reinforcing their views even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:28 PM
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Nah, I prefer a well balanced woman and to be attracted just from the physical looks feels like I have no restraint as a man. Sure, a very attractive partner is going to be very good at the start but when you become eventually get used to her looks, you would start to notice what she lacks and this will be a problem if you are looking for a long term relationship. At best, friends with benefits until she sorts her life out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:20 PM
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Shaving armpit for women is nothing more than societal expectation like how men are expected to have thick beards in middle eastern countries. If you live in those countries and you have a clean shaven face as a man, you will get weird looks. I never shaved my armpit and I never had problems with it because I know how to wash it and apply deodorant. I would assume anyone can do that as well including women and so shaving your armpit would be considered as a preference itself like how men have pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:34 AM
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The most fucked up people are usually invisible to the public eye but they exist and I won't be surprised if fellow degenerates would find their way towards one another. On the other side, the loudest minority gives the impression they are the majority and this would explain the extreme view of men and women towards one another. Once the moderate believes that the loud minority is majority, they too become part of that loud minority and snowballs from there. That is why I am cautious of the clai…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:49 PM
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It's boring in a sense that it feels more like strangers being courteous with one another than friends expressing themselves with who they are and having fun. When you talk to your new boss, you treat them nicely and making sure not to offend them. When you talk to your friends especially your best friend, you have no problem being silly and bantering with them. Between those two, which is more fun and exciting? So what men have to do is to treat women like one of the guys and just be friendly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:56 PM
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If your wife doesn't want to have sex with you, then there is deep incompatibility in there and this is solved by getting to know each other before committing. Pushing through a relationship that is obviously incompatible is only going to hurt both in the long run. Either someone or both has to change or just go your own way and find a more compatible partner. Besides, physical sex isn't the only way to relieve horniness, you know? How else do people with no partners able to sexually relieve the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:43 PM
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Someone that is an equal with me and shares the same interests as I do so we can bond over something other than sex. Being beautiful is a given and in return I will try my best to be good looking for her own satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:06 AM
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Being friends with intent for romantic relationship will most likely not end well because if that person isn't compatible with you, then you would end up depressed that you have been friendzoned by someone you wanted to be romantically involved. You will then either force yourself, forever have unrequited feelings, or end your friendship and all of those are bad outcomes. Rather, just be friends with everyone that you feel comfortable with and have common interests with no intent beyond that whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:04 PM
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I don't fear anything once I realized that finding your partner is about compatibility and personality is as diverse as the number of humans that exists on earth. Some women prefer overly masculine men while others prefer a moderate amount of masculinity and some may even prefer a more feminine one. Either way, it's not impossible to meet someone within the spectrum that matches to who you are. Rejection is simply not finding the one at the moment. Arguably, being emotionally independent is a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:14 PM
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Is it really listening if you are just interpreting it as hostility and attempt to take advantage instead of genuine feedback towards repairing that gap? Listening to the extreme end that hates everything including the moderates is why the cycle of hostility never stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:28 PM
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Empathy. Look through the perspective of the opposite gender. Easier said than done though considering a lot of men would think that would make them gay and that's the exact problem because removing the feminine perspective blinds the men on what women actually feels and replace it with the male perspective as representation. The same can be said with the women dismissing the male perspective as unnecessary. At the very least listen to what the opposite gender has to say and stop generalizing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:40 AM
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Would you do that if it runs like shit that even an old vintage car runs better? I'm pretty sure a car that's only shiny and has novel looks would be sold back ASAP because nobody likes useless junk like that. A car with average looks but is dependable on the road is a better investment. It only needs to look just good enough to catch attention of buyers and its qualities as a good car would be noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:06 PM
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It always made me wonder why is it that when something bad happens to the woman, then it was the woman's fault for choosing wrong but not the man's fault for being abusive. But when something bad happens to a man, then it was the woman's fault for being abusive and the man is never blamed for choosing wrong. I would say that both side hold accountable and both men and women must be careful and thorough when choosing partners. The abusive side must be held accountable regardless of gender. So I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:25 AM
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Appearance does matter but mostly as a hook to get people to want to know you and having a good appearance is generally something that people want to be around with. Personality is what determines the depth of relationship you have with others and the more compatible your personality is with theirs the deeper your relationship is with them. There is no one personality that would make everyone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:26 AM
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It isn't wrong but it's equivalent to having a shiny new car with novel designs. It is eye catching and can pull a lot of people to wanting it but in the end it is performance that matters once the novelty wears off. Appearance to hook people in, personality and substance to cement them to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:15 AM
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I would be a liar if I say I don't care about women's looks. If I am allowed to judge how a woman looks and get picky over it, then it's only fair women would judge my looks and get picky over it. I ain't a little boy that is easily hurt over someone not liking me because they have preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:53 AM
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Birth control isn't necessarily bad though because it's a fact that the population will hit a limit even if there is no birth control because resources are limited on earth. Sex isn't just for procreation but also for bonding and expressing intimacy to one another. At the current economic situation, it's difficult to raise children in it so it is understandable people would want to remain childless when they are already having a hard time supporting themselves. In a loving relationship, I'm pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:13 PM
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Nobody is entitled with anything but if you don't share a lot of things that both of you would find acceptable, then it's a sign of incompatibility. A compatible couple would be fine with spontaneous touching out of the blue or both wouldn't be fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:00 PM
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Here is a website listing some of those wholesome doujin if you are interested with it. There is actually a sizable amount of men that wanted wholesome porn and are passionate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:26 AM
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It's the difficult decision of not being too hasty and forceful with the woman and him wanting to be in a relationship with her. If the man expresses interest and you are also interested, why not initiate it yourself? Nothing wrong with that and I know a now married couple where the woman initiated on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:37 AM
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Would you consider doujin manga as porn? If so, then it's not necessarily bad since doujins can feature vanilla porn of loving couple and some of them are even made by women projecting their own fantasies in it. It's a good alternative if you feel horny but your partner isn't up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:02 AM
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