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Sometimes we just say it because it’s nicer than telling your friend that you don’t find them attractive. Sometimes it’s because we aren’t the type to be able to hang out with someone and have sex with them without catching feelings; the catching feelings part would be the weird part in that case. That would definitely be it for me, and I think for a lot of women. Men are little better at separating sex and romantic feelings if they have to, in my experience.
/r/seduction31/05/24 03:56 PM
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Reoccurring instances of people around you, maybe classmates, people that don’t know you that well, coworkers etc having crushes on you and you had no idea/werent flirting with them
/r/seduction24/05/23 06:53 AM
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What about all the men who are divorced in their 40s and 50s who date and get into relationships with their female counterparts? Isn’t that what the majority do? I feel like everyone’s step mothers and fathers - in normal real life - tend to be around the same age as each other
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:16 PM
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I think the dislike for men are: PUA's are for men what MLM boss babe types are for women. They're grifters. They prey on an insecurity in order to take your money; that's all it is for them. They present it as though you guys are a team and your prey is women; really, you're a cash clown and the prey is you. Risk making yourself look stupid in public or, worst case scenario, getting arrested. Risk getting lulled into a feeling of community and having found "the truth" and spending years on that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:57 PM
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I mean, most 18-year-olds weed out the 25+ crowd by themselves anyway, it’s only a minority that actually agree to date much older. I don’t think this is actually a particularly common thing for regular real life people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:01 PM
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I just think it’s an extremely rude and unromantic thing to ask. I’d never ask a guy that and wouldn’t want him to ask me. Why would you actively ruin a cutesy and flirtatious vibe (or the potential for one) by being rude?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:53 PM
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I honestly don't think a man with a 'red pill' (as in being an internet type red piller) mindset would actually believe the woman was smarter than him, even if she clearly was. He might accept that she was better at certain things than him, like math or doing IQ tests, but I think he'd still find a way to rationalise in his head that he was smarter/equally smart in a general way that couldn't be measured (even if still untrue). Also, assuming the red pill strategy works, I generally don't think …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:18 PM
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Sure yeah, but that could happen at any age
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:05 PM
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I don’t think it’s likely this day and age tbh. It’s maybe slightly more likely, but not to a point of worry. I’d say 32 is more fitting for your example than 28
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:56 PM
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I still don’t really understand the relevance here, im sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:31 PM
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Still though, 28 seems ridiculous considering how many find their marriage partner after other long term relationships have ended between age 28-34. People live longer and longer, the aging between 25 and 29 is minimal visually, it’s more like 25 to 35 that makes a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:29 PM
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Didn’t what? When? I’m confused
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:24 PM
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How is 28 not young lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:16 PM
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Stupid idea, but also, I don't necessarily think the ones who stayed all did so out of desperation. I could see a lot of them just saying "well, fuck it, I'm here anyway" and just participating in the competition for the heck of it. I could see myself doing that, it's kind of fun and spontaneous, even if I didn't really want to win the date
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:04 AM
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What if they both have a kid/kids from previous relationships? I hear a lot about single moms, but aren't there about an equal number of single dad's out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:11 PM
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I don't see any demonisation in this thread at all. The thing that annoys people is being strung along and investing too much in someone who ends up having been misleading about their intentions. Male equivalent is if a girl goes on many dates and eventually you find out she was just using you for free food/validation/whatever and has no intention of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:06 AM
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Hm, if it's online and I haven't met them in real life, but they claim they're successfull in every way except with women and at least average looking, I usually assume they're either on the spectrum with or without knowing it or they're being far more selective with what women they consider options than they care to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:57 PM
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I remember a doc where they did a test of this cause it's so typically said. They had two friends where the thin one ate waay more and the fat one way less and they couldn't understand it. They put some device on them both for like a week and it measured how much they ate all throughout the day. Surprise surprise, the fat one actually ate way more, mostly when alone I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:33 AM
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Sorry to say, but I can't even count the amount of times I've called someone handsome or above average (irl) or I've seen other people do it where it WASN'T AT ALL TRUE. You can only tell by who actually wants to have sex with you. If you can only get 5's consistently, you're a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:05 AM
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If I knew for a fact that he was exceptionally shy about it and or autistic, I think I'd just straight up have a conversation about it. Not agressively or anything, but just ask where we were, if he was interested, if he wanted me to make the move etc. But yeah, if he wasn't I'd just take the L and move on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:33 AM
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True, and from what I've seen, even the most promiscuous women I know still say no way more than yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:31 AM
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It's legal where I live and I don't think it makes any difference. It still has the same level of shame and stigma sorrounding it so "regular" people don't consider it an option. I'm sure many men secretly go, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were mostly old, disabled, hobos and foreigners. I suppose it's good for men who literally just want to feel the feeling of the physical act, but aside from that, prostitutes don't solve any issues regarding dating and social esteem; she's likely not someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:28 AM
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Your example isn't equivalent though. It's more like being offered tons of water when you're starving to death. For most women, having casual sex with random men is about as enticing and/or pleasurable as a straight man being offered tons of casual sex from a gay hook-up app. Why does this keep having to be re-explained? And no, I don't think women have it harder than men either. In some ways, we have it easier. In others we do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:16 AM
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Just curious, your second and third points kind of seem to clash, but maybe I'm wrong. Isn't 170 on a woman pretty overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:06 AM
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It's happened maybe five times in my life, I think. Currently hasn't happened in maybe two years or more. And for the record I'm early twenties, thin, dress femininely and average to attractive face. I'm including cat calls here, I don't get those either. And I do go in public places on my own. Reading what women say on Reddit, it's like I live in another world sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:01 PM
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Lots of good points here. Just to add what's off the top of my head, I'd say less societal pressure to be married and stay married. The "big" relationship of people's lives (the one in which they have kids) lasts less time than it used to. And no, I don't think that's inherently a bad thing; I'd rather go into a marriage on the premise that we can both leave when it just isn't working anymore than be forced to stick it out for the sake of tradition and avoiding external shaming. Not to say you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:02 PM
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This is what I don't get. 50% of women I've known warch porn, it not more, taking in account the one who lie about not doing it. And all the guys I've known too. Don't think any of them had a problematic relationship with it. The only person I've ever known irl to have a porn addiction is my mother (don't ask me how I know ugh) I myself watch it about once a week and the stuff I watch is pretty degrading. It has literally zero relation to my own sex life or what I'd want to do with a real life p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:10 AM
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Ah okay, yeah I'm the same. I'd drive even a slight extrovert insane unless he was totally ok with me never participating in anything he did ever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:12 AM
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What do you mean by the social level?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:15 PM
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Yeah, maybe I'm oldschool, but I think it's usually for the best to let the man take the lead on things like asking to be exclusive, official, declarations of love etc. Not that you can't take initiative in many other ways, but I just generally think it tends to work out better when the man is the first to say these things. Just like the woman has the lead on when sex is had for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:01 PM
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Meet someone preferably before I'm thirty, mutual attraction and they're a nice down to earth guy who wants a family life and doesn't have any anger issues or emotional instability. We fall in love, move in together, enjoy the little things in daily life and just find that we generally work as a couple. We laugh together, we like to be in the same space even when we're not doing something together, we enjoy vacation together, we don't sweat the small stuff, we generally add to each others daily …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:22 AM
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I mean, there's a difference between when people think about confessing love and when they actually start to feel it. It also takes a while for someone to go from falling for someone to actually understating and trusting the feeling themselves. As for the disreperancy in number of days in, I'd put that down to a gendered tradition of the guy having to be the one to say it first. I think most women just as fast as the man when they fall but they're holding off on confessing until he does first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:14 AM
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But his eyes add to his sexiness to me, though, like Mark Wallbergs droopy ones do too. I think if everything else on the person is attractive enough, a single "flaw" can actually add to their sex appeal, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:10 AM
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Haven't read your comments, but it might've been the way in which you said it. People are quite sensitive to arrogance, especially when it comes to dating, and to be honest, as a straight woman, I'd be put off by a guy going "I know my worth" or "I'm confident and won't be treated as less than I deserve" too. It's not that those things aren't good or valuable in a person, of course they are, it's more that the act of saying it convey a wholly different meaning than actually letting the traits sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:05 AM
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I think as a general rule yes because female attraction can grow over time (as in over several dates, not years) whereas male attraction is more rigid so if he feels he feels he could possibly do better at first meet, he will always feel that way and it might unintentionally influence the relationship dynamic in a negative way for both parties. But I don't think it works if its like a 7 woman dating a 2 man. It's more like the husband is a 5 and the wife is a 6 is better than the inverse or both…
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/22 04:54 PM
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Bowel movements
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/22 04:46 PM
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I was just thinking you'd kind of need her height too cause a chubby weight on a short girl might be slim weight on a tall one. If you dgaf whether she unmatched ofc, id suggest something like this: Her: "what's your height" You: "fair question, its hard to tell these things just from pics. My height is 5'9 and weight is 160. What about yours? :)"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:06 AM
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he's that ugly kind of hot that makes him even hotter in a dirty big mouth Mick Jagger sort of way. Some dig it some don't, but I'm the kind of person who thinks Steven Tyler has a certain je ne sais quoi so I get the appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:11 AM
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I think in this particular example it could be true. They're so young that the 18-year-old isn't necessarily more youthful or attractive than a 23-year-old woman. I could see a 23-year-old guy having an easier time with a girl a couple years younger because she might be a little more easily impressed than the 23 year-old. It could very easily also just be complete coincidence; he met a girl, they liked each other, the age wasn't a big deal. I mean, 18 and 23 isn't really that much of an age gap,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:31 AM
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If you want a man with zero "vices", you don't really want a man. Not really. Everybody's got little things they do or did that aren't perfect, jesus. You can't expect to attract a reasonable man if you're the sort of person who writes them off for "low value activities" like following an insta model because her boobs make his eyes feel good for 0.2 seconds once every other day. Jesus Christ, the pettiness. As a woman who uses porn (and not even the made-for-women nicey nicey stuff) at least a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:20 AM
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The latter of these two options, I guess, but I'd prefer if the "unfair/broken world" part wasn't something he spent his time pondering over. Unfair is fine, but broken... just sounds too bitter to me tbh. Especially if he's living in the western world with access to food, water, warm home and bed etc and his focus when it comes to this "brokenness" mostly revolves around things he believes affect him negatively(as opposed to things going on in third world countries or similar)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:30 AM
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The likelihood of a woman doing that is ridiculously low unless he's a millionaire offering extravagant dates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:28 PM
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The chance of a guy saying yes in some capacity even though he's settling, but will take the easy sex anyway is much much higher than the other way round. Women will usually not go "well I'm not that attracted to him, but I'll say yes anyway cause he approached so it'd easy sex etc", they'll usually just say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:17 PM
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I'm guessing 99.9999% percent of the guys saying they won't date single moms are not parents yet either. In that case, I think it's fair enough, there are good reasons not to date someone with a child when you haven't had your own yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:26 AM
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I mean, there's no harm in flirting, if that's what you mean.. I think the word creepy will just keep getting used, even in situations where the person doesn't really deserve it. If you're a guy and into initiating flirtation, you're just going to have to accept that some will think you're creepy and some won't. As a woman, when someone who I found to be extremely unattractive hit on me, I did feel "creeped out" as a natural reaction. It's just that initial thought that they imagined themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:22 AM
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Am I wrong in saying I don't see that many women on here complaining about men having seen prostitutes/a prostitute in the past? At least nowhere near the amount women's sexual past is lamented about Anyway, I find these kinds of things so weird. How would I know he's seen a prostitute before? How would he know I've slept with two or twenty men? Why ask questions you don't want the answers to unless current behaviour is calling destructive patterns into question? And no, I don't think most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:00 AM
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Kind of vague, but sometimes I feel like guys can be better at just cutting something off when a particular boundary of his has been crossed. Like, they have certain things they won't stand for and seem better at sticking to it once they just decide "no, this isn't okay" . Maybe this is completely off base, but I just feel you see more women allowing more of her boundaries and standards to be crossed and changed for a longer period of time, like being cheated on etc Also, I saw in some YouTube e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:02 PM
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I mean, if you really shave away everything else, the point of life in a species is to further your genepool, preferably with the fittest/most partner(s) possible. It's innate. So the vast majority of people, no matter what they do to convince themselves otherwise, will feel incomplete being unable to have sexual and romantic relationships in their life. I guess the male drive for this is more intense because they're the pursuers and can impregnate lots of women at any time, whereas women are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:59 PM
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Idk, I think there's a difference between being 34 and open to women age 24-35 and being 34 and only looking at women under 30. I'd find the latter kind of weird and offputting because it just feels hypocritical in the same way as if an overweight person refuses to date other overweight people. But yeah, I'm 23 and somehow got onto the topic with my 65 year old dad about a scenario where he brought home a girlfriend my age. When really thinking about it, I'd be totally fine if I met her and I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:30 PM
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I think you're correct for men; if it isn't there immediately, it never will be. As a woman, though, I strongly disagree that you need immediate lust in order to have a good lustful relationship with a man later on. Every single person whose bones I've wanted to jump and do unspeakable things to (and did in some of the cases), I didn't find attractive at all in the first months of knowing them. I've literally never found anyone sexually attractive enough to have sex upon first meeting them. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:18 PM
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Nah, I think if you wanna simplify most dating issues talked about here, it comes down to a disreperancy between what a person will take vs what they can get. The further the distance between the two, the worse a time you're gonna have. And it's not always that people are clearly shooting way out of their league, sometimes it's location, lacking charisma, low self awareness, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:10 PM
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Because otherwise I'd grow too emotionally attached to him, I'm a very romantic person. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be with someone who expresses that they don't care about physical appearances and only care about personality. I don't see anything morally wrong in being like that, but I just personally wouldn't like it. Obviously, I wouldn't want someone overly concerned or controlling about mine or his own appearance, but I like the thing where the wife steps out in a nice dress with her hair done…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:03 PM
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Putting a lot of pressure on myself and what I'm supposed to be able to offer to so much as go near a guy. Social anxiety prohibiting any form of romance or sex coupled with increasing desire for it. Frustrated, mainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:58 AM
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Of course, but I think there are certain visual and behavioural things which are innately masculine/feminine and universally most desirable to the opposite gender and then there are "changing times" and individual personality things that are far more subjective to who's looking. As in, a smaller woman with long hair, soft voice and a demeanor that isn't brutish, vulgar or sexcrazed is almost always preferred with straight men. But you can be all that and still have varying levels of intelligence…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:54 AM
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For short term, I guess he should be physically attractive, but really stupid and/or maybe moving soon. For long term, I guess I'd prefer him to be around my age or max ten years older. Mostly for kids, I wouldn't want him to be so much older that they feel like they have "the old dad" in the class. I'd want to find him attractive, as a mix of personality and looks, obviously. With looks, I'd just need him to not be shorter than me (think I'm 5'5 and a half) and not ugly or obese/on the way to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:52 PM
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Hm... I think there's an element of respectful language or whatever you can call it within a relationship. I wouldn't necessarily mind that he, in his head, thought I wasn't the physically prettiest he'd ever seen/had, but I would personally prefer a relationship where he still gave me compliments about being pretty and didn't voice these thoughts. If he did that and I didn't sense a lack of attraction, I'd be okay. There's a reason you're the stupid one if you ask stupid questions like "is she …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:20 PM
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I don't know, I'm average and it happens 0 to 1 times a year for me, mostly 0. Never see it happen to other women in public either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 04:30 PM
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Idk, one of the biggest reasons I don't date is that I think I'm way too boring for guys. That being said, I feel like if you're really into someone, anything you do with them and anything they do becomes more exciting. You'd rather be at the library with him, reading in silence along side each other, than bungee jumping with somebody else. Being bored is a lot more about the feeling you have about the person than what they actually do or say, at least to me. I could have two identical conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 11:11 AM
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I mean, it depends on your personal morals, doesn't it? As a woman, if I see a kid attacking a smaller kid, regardless of genders, I'll feel morally obligated to step in. If I see an adult of either gender having it happen to them, chances are I won't feel strong enough to physically stop whoevers attacking them, but I'll still feel obligated to call police or get more people to help me or something. It's fine not to physically protect someone if you're worried about your own safety, but I'd exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 11:06 AM
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I'm extremely shy and inhibited so I usually don't send any signals what so ever. My idea of sending a signal is basically smiling once and then ignoring out of embarrassment. So I usually end up resigning myself to the fact that he isn't into me, with the slight nagging fear that he might just assume I wasn't into him. Dumb and I wish I was braver, but sadly I'm not .. But yeah, unless he'd gained a substantial amount of weight or acted out of character in a super unattractive way in the mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 12:19 PM
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Legal reasons/financial reasons and/or it's the societal norm and it's a way of showing your partner that you value and "mean it" with this relationship more so than any other one you've had before; it's the ultimate commitment, save for children. If you aren't having kids, it might be a nice way of still feeling like you've made the other person family. If you aren't religious or particularily set on marriage as a concept, you might just be happy to have a huge romantic party with all your love…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:23 PM
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I get your point and I definitely think that there's a difference between being friends with+/ able to interact with women on a platonic basis and being The Perpetual Friendzone Guy. You don't want to be the latter. The most important reason people reiterate the need for platonic friendships with women imo is that if you only ever interact with women with the pressure of romantic/sexual intent in mind, you aren't going to come across very charismatic. Also, reeking desperation is a death sentenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:22 AM
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I'd say most important is body size in relation, as in wider/taller than women or in relation to the woman looking at him. It's the one huge deal breaker for most women (or at least me) if the guy is shorter and smaller/narrower than herself, whereas other things can be worked around depending on the woman. Personally, very yellow and/or fucked up teeth that look forever unbrushed are a no no, but that's veering into hygiene issues rather than looks and probably is the same for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:34 AM
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I think a lot of the less "unusual" ones, anxiety and depression mainly, definitely are affected by that. Not sure if I agree that the issue is worse with social media or whether it's just more highlighted and people are more likely to put a mental health label on what they're dealing with now than back in the day. Surely, lots of people struggled with the same issues for the same reasons a hundred years ago, but they just weren't exposed to as much information about diagnosies and psychiatric h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:26 PM
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The sun damage. Guys look more rugged and manly with a bit of it, women just look old
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:57 PM
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Not having to get pregnant and go through birth as the conventional and "right" way to have a biological child with your partner. Not being scrutinising their physical appearance to the same extent. Not having to worry as much about the bio clock, or at least having more time before they do. Not worrying as much about physical signs of aging. Once they establish a sexual relationship with someone, not having to worry as much about if he's into it casually or more and if he's being disengenuine a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:03 PM
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That street harassment is abundant and constant no matter what we look like and that we have to constantly modify our behaviour to avoid being approached/harassed. Literally never happens to me, nor do I ever see it happen. I'm averagely attractive and think I've been approached less than a handful my entire life in any way shape or form and it was always by foreigners who didn't speak my language well. Also, I never EVER see it happen to other women in public either. Maybe I just live in a safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:30 AM
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Yeah, obviously there could be some who do that, maybe not even consciously, but they've convinced themselves that is the case. It could also be that they are able to be in group 1, but not with the caliber og woman they really want, so when they're able to date a more attractive woman they'd rather be with one attractive woman exclusively than more less attractive ones casually. Also, at the end of the day, a vast amount of men do prefer being in a loving happy relationship over casual sex, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:40 PM
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This reminds of this guy I initially met and thought I was a bit too hot for him, but then after a while of seeing his charming and humble personality and the effect it had on people around him I realised he was wa-haay out my league lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:00 PM
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I guess a couple times a year with ONS would be a fair share to me. But of course much more regularly if he turns hook ups into a fwb situation or has girlfriends/girlfriend ish flings throughout the year. I think that's actually pretty ok and normal. But I'm not the judge of what anyone deserves, don't get me wrong, it just seems that's what the average looking guys I've grown up around seemed to be content with. Of course we all want a bit more than what's given to us, that's human nature, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:49 PM
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I agree that you probably need to be above average to consistently pull (and also to pull a certain caliber of woman), so the average guy will get laid some of the times he is in situations for casual sex, other times not. It also depends on his own standards and which women he spends time on. I don't mean that your average guy, if in the right social sphere, could be out there having sex with a new woman every weekend, of course not. But he could get his fair share. And he could have sex with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:02 PM
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Yeah totally, I was just allowing for the fact that it is a little harder if you have some clear things that are generally considered unattractive about you. But a lot of guys on here aren't even arguing for that, they're saying even average looking guys like a lot of those incel shooters (all of which I consider average looking) can't get any sex because of their looks. Which is bull, at that point looks are not the main culprit in not getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:59 AM
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I think, for anyone who isn't noticeably below average looking, it has a lot more to do with lifestyle/situation than the individual man (I say man because casual sex isn't that much of an issue+interest to women). Men who aren't noticeably ugly/obese and consistently participate in social spheres/situations where drinking and partying and casual sex is the norm will get their fair share. I'm talking high school parties and hangouts, college culture, larger social groups that go out and include …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:28 AM
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They enable our fugly husbands to cheat. But in seriousness, I see much more genuine viciousness from men toward female sex workers or even just sluts. Women tend to use the shame tactic on sex workers if it somehow boosts our ego or places us in a higher position than her when needed, but I don't think the hatred is actually deep felt more so than just opportunistic. Men, however, have a crazy af love/hate relationship with sex workers and sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:24 PM
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As a straight woman, I find this to be very untrue. I've seen it said a lot, but I just don't agree at all. I think it's a biased statement, not objectively true. Women are just less attracted to physical appearance alone so in order to find someone hot with no other information on them than their looks, the guy has to be clearly objectively attractive. Other guys can be found just as attractive with more information and exposure to them. I guess men find the feminine physical form, in and of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:03 AM
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Yeah that makes sense too. There are many reasons to hire prostitutes, both for straight and gay men, really. Famous or married straight or gay men would have good reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:57 PM
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My theory is that, despite sex being available, it may not be available with the kinds of people you want to have it with. If you're 55, balding and fat, you'll be able to fuck balding fat 55-year-old's off of Grindr, but you'll be hard up to find a 23 year old hot stud willing to fuck you without some kind of sugar in return. Basically, when they want to fuck out of their league, they have to pay. And many are willing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:11 AM
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I think men are more likely to do both, but when women do cheat, it's probably more likely to be an affair than an opportunistic ONS. If most women aren't gagging at the chance of novel opportunistic casual sex when single, they probably aren't when they're taken either. And I'm not saying men are worse people here, women can be terrible wives/partners in other ways (one thing that comes to mind is refusing sex (bar no-desire starfish duty sex) with your partner yet also expecting them not to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:06 AM
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Well, if you subscribe to the 80/20 concept, women get cheated on more, but the cheating is being done by a small amount of men. Anyway, I just think men probably cheat more (sexually) because women are just way more selective in who they'll have sex with so it's gonna take longer for them to get to a man that they'll be willing to cheat on their partner with. Women are probably more likely to emotionally and/or sexually check out on their partner without cheating, whereas men might be decent pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:08 AM
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No, men should definitely be allowed to withdraw from a relationship at any point. I was just saying, it's a bit rich to compare withdrawing consent for someone to physically enter your body with withdrawing consent for someone to be your official girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:01 AM
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Yes, exactly my point, and I'd argue both are of course totally ok, and both will inevitably make the other party upset, but that's just life. With of course the added part that I thought it was a little rich to directly compare a situation of not allowing someone else physically inside your body to not allowing someone else your promised time, affection and monogamous commitment. If the guy didn't consider the girls withdrawal of sexual consent as being ok, the alternative is him holding her do…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:27 AM
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What kind of wild mental gymnastics does one have to do to make this sort of argument unironically? If a guy withdraws consent for a relationship after sex, the woman can't force him to have one. She can try, but it'll warrant a restraining order at some point. If a woman withdraws consent for sex in the bedroom, the guy can just rape her. And if he does, it'll warrant legal prosecution. Both get to say no, both get upset at that, both will be looked down upon if they try to force their way anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:03 AM
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I think in general men will lower their standards on looks for casual sex. They won't so much for serious relationships. Women will do the opposite. Men who can't get any form of casual sex unless they lower their standards to a point where their penis won't get erect, of course, will have to give commitment or be sexless. If they feel they're both lowering their standards in looks and having to commit to a fullblown relationship just to get sex, I'd say they may not be being realistic about whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:16 AM
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Well, with emphasis on the word ideal I guess it would be 180-185 cm tall (don't know what that is in inches), wide chest and shoulders, but not stupidly wide; think Matt Damon size width. Generally large, but proportionate skeletal build; large hands, large feet. Again, not stupidly large, just on the larger side of average. White, but tan complexion, á la Leo Dicaprio or Brad Pitt skintone. Blue/green/grey eyes. Thick, very long blonde-ish hair, like Leo in Titanic colour, but could be lighter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:50 AM
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Of course, but when using a media that's already kind of dehumanising you kinda have to play the odds. If it were real life you could get a better feel of each individual person, but you can't so rather safe than sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:45 PM
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Honestly this is too black and white. As a woman, I've used tinder while filtering out anyone who gives off cues in their bio/pics/initial messages that they're looking for quick hook ups and also making sure my own bio and pics don't give off that vibe. The result has been that 99% of my messages are from down to earth guys who would never dream of trying to be sexual off the bat and are more than interested in talking and getting to know one another. The last 1% I easily filter out because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:52 PM
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The reason certain ethnicities are considered least attractive in either gender is (for the most part) not societal pressure or conditioning, it's because they generally inhabit more genetical characteristics that are less naturally attractive to straight members of their opposite sex, and there's not much that can be done to change it as it's just biology. Men fall in romantic love based almost entirely on looks, but in lust based on their own need to reproduce and the object of their lust hitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:54 AM
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Totally impropable scenario, but we're both at a work conference or some other formal event. We randomly are placed beside each other and slowly he starts to put his hand on my thigh. Nobody knows and it's all a bit "forbidden". He's talking to other people he knows at the table, I am too. We hardly, if at all, acknowledge each other. Then I get up at some point to go to the bathroom. He follows. Stuff happens. We go back like nothing did, don't speak of it, but maybe send another glance at each…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:48 PM
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Sure, there are women who lose attraction because the guy just stops trying to woo her or he becomes boring because he's a sure thing. But I think what a lot of women are saying when they say the guy stopped trying is that, somewhere along the way, he stopped treating her like the sexy woman he fell in love with and more like a piece of furniture that keeps his house clean and packs his lunch. Obviously, its a give-and-take and most relationships end in both parties being guilty of different fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:03 PM
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No, I think what you have to remember is that these are typically, to put it in a crass way, bottom of the barrel type women. Usually obese/otherwise unattractive and highly likely suffering from other mental issues aside from fancying criminals. At least that's what I've seen most of. You'd be hard up to find a mentally healthy, average attractiveness woman in the groups of serial killer lovers. I dont mean the ones who just post a few images of a hot fellon or find Ted Bundy fascinating, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 03:48 PM
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Honestly, I don't put too much weight on the wall in that respect. In my mind, I don't work or socialise in the entertainment industry, nor with people that are rich in any way so my dating prospects would be your average man. Average looks, average income, average dating pool of women. And I'm not saying that in a settling kind of way, I'm just saying that the average good guy who lives in your area, works a 9-5 and walks his dog and likes a good horror movie will not be bombarded with, nor wil…
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/21 02:59 PM
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I think I'd look at it like if you're being rejected by everyone you're interested in or you're consistently experiencing a pattern of being the one more into your partner than vice versa, you may be shooting above your league. Same goes for women, but in slightly different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 08:02 AM
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It depends. As a woman who's been guilty of this myself before, there's a very real chance that maybe the first woman was telling the truth and then the others felt pressured to agree because it's kind of a humble brag ego boost and no one wants to be the one woman who doesn't have guys being clingy with her. Kind of like if a group of women talk to each other about harmless street harassment, I've experienced it turn almost into a competition of who gets it the most. Humble brag, again. On the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:22 PM
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I always gathered it was more so a difference in cleanliness standards and urgency between the genders causing this. Like, the man wouldn't mind leaving the dishes for the next morning or not vacuuming quite as often, but the woman would so she ends up beating him to it every time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 05:28 PM
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Maybe I've got it wrong here, but what you described doesn't sound like ghosting to me. If one person decides to ghost and then the other does too, I don't see it as ghosting; ghost + ghost = no ghost. I only think it's really ghosting if one side reaches out and still receives no response. So unless her last message was a question, I don't really see it as a ghost.
/r/seduction12/01/21 11:43 AM
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I don't know, it would depend on the guy and what I sensed about him. It's more that if he gives the vibe that he's super desperate and doesn't care who he'd with as long as he has someone, then what does that say about me? If it's more that he simply felt those women were his "league" or that betterlooking women never showed interest, that wouldn't be a deterrent. In fact, selfishly, it's always nice to feel like you're hotter than his exes. I'd be much more deterred if all his exes were much h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:56 PM
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I think the issue comes when the emphasis is placed on "casual sex". I still think that women want that less, in and of itself, than men do. The privilege women do have is more so feeling desired. I'll go out on a limb and say that a large percentage of enjoyment derived from casual sex for women (and to a lesser extent also men) is feeling the other party's desire. We can go out, swipe for a minute and we'll find people who'll make it known they desire us. Be it a cheap and low-cost low-reward …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:07 AM
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I think there are compulsive cheaters, probably with lower-than-average empathy and likeliness to cheat regardless of circumstances, and then people who may cheat at some point in the relationship/their life given the right circumstances. The latter category is like 99% of all people - maybe less so women because they don't have the impulsive physical incentive that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:00 AM
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If I was thinking in terms of longterm potential, I'd probably be focusing mostly on whether he'd been able to commit in the past (depending on his age) and whether he'd been in love/loved a woman before. It would be a major, major plus if he had, especially the love part. I'd find it concerning at a certain age, especially if he had had relationships before, if the guy wouldn't say he'd been in love before. As for things that are just a little crush/attraction, I think if I saw that his exes we…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:42 AM
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I think I'd do it, given that he was a good guy, we were in a relationship and that he asked in a normal/nice way, but like... I doubt any guy who has taken a virginity before views it as this magical thing; it seems more of an obsession for men who never got to take one. I lost mine to a guy who was also a virgin so we lost it together and that was nice, but the reality of it was that it only got good later on. The first (handful of) time(s) was... bumpy, careful, painful, stunted, fumbly and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:37 AM
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I suppose it kind of depends on the simpery in question. I think if we're talking someone like Belle Delphine taking money from whoever decides to pay for her patreon and whatnot, that's none of her problem. It's pretty clear she's selling a product; if someone mentally unwell is spending money they shouldn't be on her product, I don't think that's her personal fault. Sad yes, but she isn't to blame. If we're talking real life where the girl isn't clearly selling anything, but is choosing to lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:12 PM
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Great improvement. You look so good !
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:17 PM
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I hardly ever get any male attention in the sexual/flirty way so I appreciate it a lot and am flattered when I do. That being said, only if it's done respectfully and not in the "I find you attractive so now I shall never leave you alone and follow/harass you wherever you go" way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:56 PM
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Agree, but I think it isn't necessarily societies fault, it's just a natural prejudice derived from the fact that a lot of men often want sex in and of itself more than women do. There's a reason they're the ones funding onlyfans etc out of choice. It's unhealthy to think like this, though, because every man, woman, relation is different and it serves you worse in the end, whatever gender you are. If we've had sex, I'm not entitled to you paying for our dinner or changing my lightbulbs. If you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:15 PM
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I don't think so, but I also disagree with the peak ages you've put down here. I'm 22 and I find men between 20-24 enormously more attractive than men much younger or older than that. I only really find men super attractive outside that bracket is if it's from afar (like a celeb or someone you see a video of) that I'd never want in actuality, or if I get to know the person and develop a crush on that particular human. To me, objectively speaking, men are most attractive from about 22-27 lookswis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:07 PM
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I've personally always been slender and not yo-yo'd too much, but when I was underweight I didn't get more or less attention from men; I just got patronized more. I got the sense that, when they would hit on me, there'd often be a sense of "I can easily manipulate this little girl". I got far more praise and compliments from other women when I was that thin, though, from model type comments to "I wish I was as thin as you, how do you do it? Show me your waysss", even if I'd tell them it wasn't h…
/r/RedPillWomen19/12/20 01:11 PM
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Hm, for me I've had two situations of "this guy". They weren't more (or less) physically attractive than the guy I'd want a more fleshed out relationship with, but the common denominator for me was... don't know how to put this without sounding like a dick, but, basically they didn't feel like my intellectual equal. Conversation wasn't fruitful or challenging, jokes/irony flew over his head, and I didn't feel like he "got" me, nor that I "got" him. But, I wasn't seeing anybody else and they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:41 PM
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If I really, really liked him and understood his reasons, I guess... fuck, it'd have to be a great reason, but maybe... a year? But, if he didn't seem to have a reason then maybe two to three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:16 PM
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Yeah, I thought of fleshing that one out, but basically what I meant is if it's with someone whose personality I also could fall for. Whereas if I didn't think that much of the person overall and knew I couldn't fall in love with their personality type at all, and basically just found him physically attractive enough and for some reason wanted sex for the sake of it, that wouldn't be an issue. Basically I guess it all comes down to self preservation mostly. But I seriously cannot stress how true…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:12 PM
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In my eyes, this is one of those things where swapping the genders doesn't really work. I know society's come along way, but I personally still think that a lot of men, even good, caring, sweet ones, can be put off or lose interest if you have sex too early on; it can change his view of you/his relationship with you for the worse. Also, as a woman, I'm so prone to attachment from sex that I'd want to protect myself from scewing my perception or getting too deep into those feelings with him befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:02 PM
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I'm female and literally think the exact opposite of that. If I see the guy as higher value (to me), as in I know I wouldn't be able to have a sexual relationship with him without falling in love, I'd want to take things slower to make sure the feeling is mutual before I get in too deep, as well as make sure the relationship isn't based only in sex. If the guy was attractive to me lookswise, but had a personality I know I could never fall for, and I were looking for casual sex for whatever reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:51 PM
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I think men want sex A LOT more than women want relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:18 AM
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Damn. Was trying to figure out what happened in your examples and the only explanations I could find were that your social skills are either much worse than you think they are or your looks are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:15 AM
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Because I feel that if you mature in line with your age, you tend to prefer people around the same experience- and maturity level as yourself. Also, if it's only about looks (younger=hotter), then that's immature to me too because most people grow out of that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:35 PM
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I'm 22 and I'd take it as a sign if immaturity if someone much older was trying to hit on me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:14 PM
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Well that statement just proves that it works well on men, not women. Also, the reason "Chad" would say yes to it from a less attractive woman, hence Chadfishing, is that most women don't give out propositions like that randomly. If he were over run with sex requests from his looks match, he obviously wouldn't, but he isn't because most women don't do it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 02:56 PM
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Come on, this is just coping. Sure, makeup puts women at a slight advantage, but that advantage kind of gets cancelled out by the fact that it's the norm for every woman to wear it. Women's attractiveness is highly dependent on genetics, and so are mens. Straight men aren't expected to wear makeup and tend to look less attractive to straight women wearing it because makeup is made to enhance feminine beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:04 AM
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Yes, but only the ones who were so overtly open about it that everyone knew. This was also paired with provocative dress style and proving people's "suspicions" at every opportunity. Other ones, the majority, who had higher n count, but acted mostly the same in every other aspect of life as their lower n count peers, it had no effect on. In fact, these girls were often the more attractive ones and so they continued to be the most desired
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:59 AM
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I think it's a mixture of what you said, missing out on young sex, and also wanting to emphasize and underline any "unfairness" to the detriment of women in the dating world. They feel there are so many things that are unfair/harder on men when it comes to love and sex and so I guess it feels good to really rub in the things that aren't "good" for women. Also, the people in the manosphere are probably not very likely to have or have had great experiences with relationships with women; they don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:27 PM
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Plastic surgery. I'd say the same to a female version. No one should be forced to go through life ugly as hell if they can afford otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 05:25 PM
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For fucks sake, don't marry her if you feel this way. If not for your own sake then for hers. Everyone deserves to be with someone who at least doesn't feel like they're settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:59 PM
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Listen, if we take away all the gendered issues and popular terms like "friendzone", we're all the same. If we like somebody as more than a friend and they don't like us that way, it sucks. It feels like rejection, it feels like anything less is a consolation prize, it feels like it sucks. It sucks. But the friendship itself isn't the issue; it's the fact that you aren't being offered what you really wanted. Whether what you are being offered instead is friendship, empty compliments or a Subway …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 11:51 AM
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It's funny, I see it the opposite. Being too afraid to let yourself be vulnerable is a sign of weakness to me. To let yourself be vulnerable is to allow for people to really get in, even at the risk that they might hurt you where you're weakest. It's risky and scary, but it's also the only real way to create deep intimacy and trust with someone.
/r/seduction29/10/20 05:27 PM
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Well, personally I think the hobbies advice is a part of being more independent and good with yourself, whether a partner is there or not. There are lots of contributors, but I think it's almost universally true that not having much else that you're passionate about in life but your girlfriend is a HUGE attraction killer. It's not about having three million cool sporty macho man hobbies that you brag about and post on socials either; it's about having something that you actually, genuinely enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:19 PM
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HOW was this down voted? !?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 08:50 AM
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Just curious, how does your own autism show? You describe this as though neurodivergent women are less neurodivergent than their male counterparts. Just curious if this is true in your experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:21 AM
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Yes, as a woman who is definitely not autistic, but quite socially inept, a female version of red pill would definitely appeal to me due to its "just press this button and then that one and then the red one last and you can't go wrong" type black and white easiness. It sort of saves you having to navigate the risky vague parts of socialising and gives a (false) illusion of a foolproof manual to success, no awkward treading of social waters without a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:56 AM
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The inbetweeners? I think though that the problem is the people that make the show want to cater to a demographic, say straight men or straight women. But I'm not sure there is a large enough demographic of straight men who'd be interested in watching the exact male opposite of sex and the city
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:46 AM
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As a girl, I really like this comment. It makes a lot of sense and explains some of the issues guys struggle with without putting down less attractive girls. I think we can all relate to the feeling of acting way different because we're talking to someone we consider 10/10 and we think they must know they're way too good for us solely because of their looks. I guess we have to try not to raise people's worth up on a pedestal just because their looks are very attractive; at the end of the day, th…
/r/seduction03/10/20 11:51 AM
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Yeah but if you are that nice 2/10 guy, maybe you'd have more luck not going after girls in the same league as the ones Chris Hemsworth can date. I think that's the point; if you're genuinely a nice guy who's a 2/10, you'll want to be as open to dating a nice girl who's a 2/10 as she would you.
/r/seduction29/09/20 04:33 PM
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Look up the ratio of male to female literotica readers + writers. Including erotic fanfiction or fictional online smut. Then look up the male to female ratio of video or picture porn consumption. And before any men get all defensive, more visually stimulated doesn't necessarily have to mean more shallow as a person. It's just that we women are stimulated more by something we can halfway imagine in our minds and associate with certain feelings we've had before, we're stimulated by the idea of a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:07 PM
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Yup, I like this sub because it's raw and honest without the incel/red pill element, but dear God the overrepresentation of men on it really scews the discussions a lot.. wish it were a little more equaled out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 03:56 AM
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That's the underlying thought, yes. Sigh, just saw someone in a thread beneath saying 5's made him puke when he saw them naked all the while calling women delusional in their superficiality. The hypocrisy is strong in this post.. I swear sometimes these sub posts be like "all the average man asks for is consistent casual sex with an array of hot women as well as a 10/10 virgin gf, but women's superficial nature is ruining the dating market"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 03:20 AM
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But maybe ask yourself why all three of your exes were very attractive and none of your exes were as ugly as you? Maybe you overlook your looksmatches because you've become accustomed to a standard of looks which is really out of your league
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 03:09 AM
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Because they're more visual towards others, not themselves. Look at gay men. They're miles ahead of straight men grooming wise. Why? Because they know that's how they get men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 04:27 PM
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Maybe family pics, like her with her sister or mum and dad.. but tbh, I don't think there is an equivalent cause guys mainly look at the girl to determine the attraction, not so much sorrounding factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 04:19 PM
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Hm, I was always under the impression that men's preference for "thick" girls became more popular, especially in the US, because all sizes inflated with time. Also, I guess there was a reaction to the herion chic look and the spike in anorexia at the time. I think the men who say they prefer the thick look are praised for saying so and so they keep on saying it and it keeps being liked and placed on front pages because women, most of whom are thick or fat (in the US) also appreciate these prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 09:22 AM
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Well, if men decided to go with that mindset, the crucial part is that they'd have to be willing to walk away or "lose" the option of sex with the woman if she doesn't agree. I think the reason this is a common dynamic in dating is that the woman is more content with losing the man (and/or the potential of sex with him). The one who can more easily walk away is always the one with more power. I don't think most decent women, myself included, consider their time more valuable per say. It's just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 09:54 AM
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Right, but I'm not saying that that's what is going to be the most favorable way to prioritize, I'm just saying that, from what I've seen, it seems to be the most common one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:32 AM
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I agree to an extent, but I honestly think looks far supersede n count, even for longterm. As long as she isn't currently looking or acting slutty, especially in a way where his social circle finds out, looks are much higher on the priority list for men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 11:54 AM
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100% yes. The biggest problem with OLD imo, is the inability to hear someone's voice, see their mannerisms, their facial expressions, smell them even. This is especially the case for women. As a woman, if I'm on OLD, I find 1/10 guys attractive from just the pictures, but in real life I find like 6/10 age appropriate guys attractive after having spoken a little. It's a massive difference and I think it accounts for a lot of the "women are shallow" and 80/20 nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:24 PM
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Aren't most simps and pickme's just people constantly shooting out of their own league? So, assuming a simp and a pickme were in the same league as each other, they'd both consider the other one not good enough for them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 10:18 AM
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Sure, men and women get older every year they continue living, it is what it is, and thirty is probably where it starts to happen. I obviously don't think it's this like some immediate bang and you're void of sex appeal, you can be older/less universally attractive as you age, but still be hella attractive to your peers. Despite what red pill claims, for every "post wall" woman, there's a bazillion male counterparts more than content with how she looks, older like himself. As long as you look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:06 AM
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I dont know, I'm very young so I'll assume I'll find it more creepy if one day I'm older and I have a 22-year-old daughter who's getting hit on by men my own age. I think people always become more sensitive to these things when they have children. That's one of the things for me; a large amount of men in, say, their 40's to 50's will have daughters in their early twenties. Usually, at least from what I've seen, that acts as a huge deterrent for these men in dating women that much younger; people…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:58 AM
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50/50, about 50% were not above average in experience with women, 50% had a decent amount of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:13 PM
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Yeah, and I'm completely like this. Even with people I'm completely comfortable with, half the time I just can't be bothered talking; it's boring if there's nothing that needs to be said. But one of my biggest insecurities when it comes to guys is the fear of not talking enough/being too shy; I feel like they consider me boring, uninterested and dry when I don't have that much to say. It just makes me so uncomfortable because I judge myself so hard when I can't come up with a good answer in conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:18 PM
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I've had this issue too! It's really weird and baffling. The guys that I've felt more comfortable to open up with would be normal or even not that into me, but I've had several people that I'd been so incredibly shy with I could hardly utter a coherent sentence and they'd be soo into me, confess their love etc, I never got that. Does extreme shyness translate as being mysterious or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:42 PM
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No, I wouldn't do that. I never have any sex, let alone casual sex, so it wouldn't change much for me personally at the moment, but I just don't think it's healthy for society to restrict people's sexualities that much. I'd rather be celibate or whatever until I met a man that I loved who was willing to choose to only have non-casual sex with me (and I think lots of those people do still exist, they may just be more introverted and harder to initially spot), than be with someone who might only b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:52 AM
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I mean, I don't agree with any of this, but if the first part of the question were true for me, I guess I'd want to know about his sexual/romantic past too. When did he lose his virginity, has he had any proper relationships, how much casual sex has he had, has he cheated in his past relationships. Also, has he ever been in love before. I'd personally prefer this one to be yes (a normal amount of times in relation to his age) because that tells me he's the kind of guy who develops real feelings …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 04:40 PM
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I mean, he's the exact same age as me and I can't even fathom anyone having a mindset remotely close to his, but... I just saw a lot of comments on the OG post mentioning how he could possibly just be ignorant and be capable of changing his mindset etc and I just wanted to point out that that could be true, but still not mean that this girl has to stay with him through it. Like, just because someone is capable of change or growth doesn't mean that she has to be the one to see him through it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/07/20 07:25 PM
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I mean, I agree that this guy is very young and could have just been ignorant and might, if he tries to understand his mistakes, grow into a decent man one day. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN SHE SHOULDN'T STILL DUMP HIM. In fact - although I don't think she should care about this - he'd have a better chance of seeing he did wrong if she dumped him for this than if she just had a little "talk" and he was immediately forgiven. He's clearly got a very warped mindset and, frankly, I think any guy with half …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/07/20 01:14 PM
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I question whether women being feminine virgins and choosing to marry when young at peak attractiveness to a man that loves her instead of riding "the cc" even makes a difference. This always gets put as what a woman should do if she wanted to be truly happy and not die alone after hitting the wall, but I just don't think that this alternative is all that safe for women either. The argument is that the man will love her, have wife goggles and always see her as this young beautiful angel and they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:21 PM
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But if they're having to pay the woman for sex, surely she's the one not wanting to date him, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:14 PM
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Yeah, I've definitely known and seen some women who had higher physical standards than men I knew, but that's all anecdotal and all in all, I think I've known an equal number of each from every gender. I'm hesitant to say men have higher standards because, again, it's seemed pretty equal to me in real life, but I have noticed that men do place higher importance on their partners looks, not just early on, but through the relationship. Women kind of seem to "forget" what their partner objectively …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:09 AM
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I hear this all the time, but does it actually have a proven mental effect or is it just feeling stronger+hotter and the temporary rush right after?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:19 PM
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Oh wow, that's so interesting. Wouldn't mind a bit of that testosterone for myself, then, if it didn't come with a beard and that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:30 PM
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Thank you for being so nice :) Yeah, and I don't mind if he's more extroverted than me, that wouldn't be saying a lot anyway. At the end of the day, they're my issues that I need to overcome if I really want someone, not anybody else's. As for right now, I'm very young still and happy with my daily life, but at some point I'll start to really miss a partner and I'll have to face my demons. People tend to say someone always comes along when you aren't looking, but as someone who's been actively h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:11 PM
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Yeah, I've considered it all, but I'm not really scared of online judgements as much as I just have a mental block keeping me from ever meeting up with anyone in person. I can talk to someone on a site or an app and I'm pretty good at filtering for guys who act like creeps or narcissists or are just sexual, but even when I really like the guy on text, I can't get myself to meet him and only end up ghosting. I've never been able to meet anyone from online in person as far as I remember and that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:55 PM
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This post literally describes me down to every point, except I don't even use Instagram or other social media like that, but it's all caused by crippling social phobia and I'd swap it for the alternative in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:15 AM
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You conveniently leave out the fact that men seperate women into two categories of attractiveness; 1. Attractive enough to date/fall in love with, and 2. Fuckable. Most of these "widened and lower preferences" that men have fall into the latter category. Women do not care if they fall into that category; we know it means nothing. It means nothing because all you have to do to fall into the average man's second category is not be obese, deformed and/or exceptionally ugly, and it means nothing bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:41 AM
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It will make a difference in what kinds of women he can attain/feels satisfied with. If he's fit and his wife is still fat, he's just as likely to cheat (or try to) as a woman would be in the reverse scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 01:58 PM
1

This isn't gendered though? If both are fat and husband/boyfriend loses weight, he'll do the same (maybe unless wife/gf shows progress too when she realizes the change)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:28 AM
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Hits my minimum bar of physical attractiveness Normal and fine with it (doesn't have extreme personality traits in some way, like superiority complex, lack of empathy, autism/Asperger, narcissism, inability to be happy about what he was/always believes he was destined for "something bigger", always negative, too outgoing to work well with me) Not stingy with compliments (I'm definitely not either) Somewhat sexually normal (interested in kink, watches weird porn, little physical issues, lacking e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:06 PM
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I don't think Karen's are considered particularly attractive. The meme isn't really rooted in anything looks-related (although it does usually get associated with the manager hair cut and 40+ white women). Anyway, I think people who've always been really naturally good-looking, and grew up that way, tend to be pretty nice. The world's been nice to them and so they've become nice people in return. They wouldn't, in my mind, be more likely to end up Karen's, they haven't got that feeling within th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 11:19 AM
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I don't like the word excusable because, in terms of a relationship, neither are excusable (although some couples can come back from cheating, but it still needs to be excused/apologized and made up for). But obviously, there's a reason beating is literally illegal, whether in a relationship or not, and cheating isn't. My rule of thumb is cheating does not, in all cases, have to end in breaking up. Beating, even if only once, even if not that damaging, it's over. No discussion, it's done. Honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 10:22 AM
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I've seen a lot of rational explanations, mainly talking about worries separate from the actual act (as in, STD's, trust, pregnancy, risk of emotional attachment that isn't yet reciprocated from the man's side, etc), but for me the biggest reason is literally that I'm just not ready to be sexual with you. I think a lot of women work like me, and that's in a way where you can be attracted to a guy, but you need time to strengthen that attraction before it's strong enough for sex. I'm not talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 11:34 AM
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Nah, I call bullshit. You put a woman in a relationship with GigaChad and make him marry her and stay monogamous for years, trust me, she'll still act like most women would in a relationship; at some point, looks wear off and you need effort from both sides in order to maintain sexual interest. Also, if this were true, women would be willing and ready to fuck superhot guys at the drop of a hat(when SOBER), but that still isn't the case. Most women would still not say yes if some model guy came u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 01:31 PM
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Fair enough, great response. Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 01:27 PM
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Just curious, do you have some examples of generic vapid bullshit and the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 02:24 PM
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I mean, why do men(or women) of any smv treat other men, friends or not, elders, strangers, uglies, etc with respect? Because they like being decent people and it doesn't cost them anything. Respect is something most people like to receive and hand out in return. I don't see why you'd need to receive anything other than reciprocal respect in return. Again, it doesn't cost anything to be decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 06:59 AM
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I agree that mens looks peak around the same age as women. It's just that their smv is based on more things than just that so the drop isn't as bad. Women's smv is largely built on looks, so... That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 09:26 AM
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Number 1 is so so true. I don't use any social media bar reddit, but I've had tinder before and, as a woman, the number one thing that made it hard for me to feel in any way excited about going on there and checking my matches and messages was the fact that we met on a dating app. It's not a judgemental thing, it's just like there's an excitement that's been completely removed because from the off we both know we're talking with romantic intent and nothing else. It ruins the early seduction "dan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 09:33 AM
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I guess trp offers a sense of hope to guys who otherwise would've just had to accept "I'm ugly, that's it". The way in which it's set up, it's very attractive to unsuccessful guys because it comes across almost like a tiny online education you just have to take, pass and then you'll get laid; it's nice and specific, doesn't leave anything for you to have to figure out yourself. Simply put, it offers a (possibly false?) sense of control to a guy who feels like all his interactions with women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 10:57 AM
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Well, they're attractive overall for one, usually. It's rare that someone clearly not attractive becomes super hot just by virtue of being desired by others (which wouldn't happen much anyway, would it?) they also don't act desperate, they're charming and you can tell both by their own behavior and the behaviors of women around them that he isn't short for choice. Basically, it's more sexually appealing to feel like you're being chosen by one who has options, good options at that, than to feel u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:10 PM
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Personally, I like some of FDS, especially because they're the only big female dating sub that isn't bluepilled into oblivion (RPwomen are simps, fight me), but I do struggle with some of their black and white thinking when it comes to sex, though. Personal taste, I guess, but I wouldn't be alarmed if a guy watches porn as I do it too, and I wouldn't want to set a 3 month rule, or any hard rules like that, because that would, to me, imply I have so few human feelings for the guy that I can play …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:23 PM
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At first I thought I'd freeze it now (22), but then I thought it through and I'd probably prefer just to age. I mean, I want kids and the whole family shabang and imagining a future kid of mine looking 40 while I still look 22 is just too weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:52 AM
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This is the best comment I've seen. It's not about fear of being labeled a "harasser" or "creep" for most normal men, because most normal men know where to draw the line and not veer into harassing territory. It's about self-esteem. I'm female, but I grew up with a very close best friend being a straight male. He was the gamer type, kind of nerdy and not bad looking, but not good looking either. He got friendzoned by all the girls he fancied as we grew up. (He never fancied me, we had an extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:20 PM
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I agree that it should be legalized, but mostly because it would allow the government to better regulate it in terms of safety, legal age and free will for the prostitutes themselves. The safety one is also good for costumers, though. I don't think it being legal would change as much for men as you do, though. Maybe some, like a 28-year-old virgin/long term celibate guy who just cannot get laid or disabled people, who otherwise wouldn't be getting any sort of intimate human affection, which I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:00 PM
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Same for men. Saw a study that husband's (and their wives) are generally happier in their marriages when, objectively, they are less good looking than their wife. It's all relative. The least happy were the couples where the guy was better looking than his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 09:20 AM
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wow I'm from Europe and female and 5'6 and I was literally the second shortest in a class of 26, including the girls
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 09:17 AM
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Because she likes feeling small and protected in his arms and he likes feeling big and protective with her in them. There's a reason it's called the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 09:10 AM
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The thing is that these men don't understand why women would rather be alone than date someone they feel "meh" about because they would rather date (or be fucking lbr) women they feel that way about than date no one at all. No one is always the worse scenario to them. They can't fathom that a lot of women (and just people) genuinely feel worse being with someone where it just isnt quite there than being alone. It's like if you're starving and you're offered a meal you don't really like, you'll s…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/20 07:23 AM
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Well, within his own age range at least, (5 is maybe a bit too narrow, I like the 7 year rule), and because those are his peers, women around the same level of maturity and life experience as him, those he'd likely have the most in common with and be in the same place in life as. I'm not saying there's anything wrong if you meet and click with a person with a larger age gap, but it does ick me out a little if a guy exclusively dates younger and wouldn't consider a woman his own age. Don't get me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:00 AM
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That "old soul" part was cringey and sounds like wishful thinking to me. Studies have shown that women who date much older are generally less attractive than women who date within (reasonable) age range. I don't know why this doesn't get mentioned more often, but aside from money, the biggest reason a young woman dates up exclusively is that her youth halos her to the older guy so he views and treats her like she's better looking than her male peers would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:58 AM
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I agree a little, I wouldn't advocate for it. That being said, they're far too black and white and refuse that there are lots of age gap relationships that do work well. As a 22 year old, personally, I'd lose a bit of respect for a guy if he actively exclusively pursued women more than 5 years younger than himself. It's different if you're one connection out of many in varying age groups, but if he refuses to date his age, I personally wouldn't date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:27 AM
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I agree a hundred percent, but with that said I will add that there are people arguing for some change who aren't entirely unreasonable about it. Just as there's sexlessness with men, there's an increased number of women struggling with, for example, the idea that all men either cheat, play women, lead you on for sex and no real love or act so feminine you have to friendzone them because you just cannot find them sexually attractive, even when you really wish you could. This is all speculation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 10:40 PM
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With a rope and a stool, I think. Maybe pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:12 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly with the comment that one woman's fuck boy is another woman's husband. It's what I always, always think when men get categorized as an allround pos for every woman ever just because he didn't reciprocate one woman's feelings. It's like the saying "if every person you meet in a day is an asshole, chances are..." etc. Same if guys say all their ex girl friends were crazy bitches. Instant red flag. It's one thing to have one or two people in your history who genuinely were sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:06 PM
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Yeah, it's a mix, but I think guys generally do prefer a girl who doesn't act like any of your mates could bed her if she was single. It's about respect in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:51 AM
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I agree, but I think it happens to a lesser extent than a lot of people who use it as a cope want to believe. But yes, I've had male friends confide in me that they couldn't bring a certain girl to prom because it would be embarrassing to him, which is a societal pressure on men as well as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 11:50 AM
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That last one had me like yes yes yessss but I will add, though, that sometimes they're afraid because they do want the woman, but know they might not be able to stay faithful if they promise her monogamy. In most of those cases, though, especially if the woman makes it clear she won't stay around without commitment, they still do it and just end up cheating/breaking up later.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:23 PM
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Men base a lot more of their opinions of you on superficial aspects than you think, romantically speaking. Not just beauty, though that's number one, but also style, voice and level of seeming "innocence". They decide very early on whether you're in the potential girlfriend category or potential fwb. This is very hard to change and you really shouldn't bother trying. He's not scared or confused or playing a game. He's just not that into you. Sexual attention means nothing in terms of your actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:13 PM
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I think if you are interested in and able to have a relationship with someone without a major power dynamic discrepancy, you're probably playing in each other's leagues. As a rule of thumb, the people you want that also want you back are the people in your league, aren't they? The problem only occurs when all of the people you want don't seem to want you back. But in that case, some introspection is probably needed because chances are, you're the one with the problem. Also, I think it's sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:14 PM
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Job, quite a few. Intelligence, not as many, the ones who didn't being ones who were, in my opinion, less intelligent themselves (or just thirsty/desperate for sex alone). I've honestly seen sooo many guys hate on girls for not being too smart. I'm not talking average intelligence, but the kind of girl who always puts her hand up in class giving the most ridiculous answers or who goes "wait, China isn't the same as Korea?" or whatever, most decent guys find that a turn-off, I think. As for sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:54 PM
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5'6, 105 pounds, blue eyes, shoulder length brown hair, pale skin. Average facially, with small features. I've been told I resemble Emma Watson, Kristen Stewart or Nina dobrev(but like the non famous average version)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:46 AM
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This is what it is for me. Most men don't move their opinion of you that much based on how early or late you have sex with him (unless it's like within an hour of meeting or you're making him wait six months or something stupid). I think if he likes the girl, he likes her regardless of when she puts out and vice versa. The real reason to hold back for women is that there's no way of knowing whether he likes you or not; and if we're choosing to have sex, there's a 99% chance we will be attached a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:05 PM
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Oh please share more advice! I'm interested to know how you got to the point of even flirt-texting with him? Did he ask for your number or vice versa? How did the first instance of interest come about?
/r/seduction11/05/20 09:55 AM
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glares at your unused waste of a genital area in deep visceral disgust
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:51 AM
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incel
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:36 PM
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I read FDS for raw political in correctness and entertainment sometimes, but my biggest issue (aside from their weird extreme stance on porn and the like) is that with the amount of hate they have for men - or at least 99,999999% of men - why on earth are they being dating strategists? If men are so horrible and offer literally nothing to their lives, what's the point? At least mysogynists on RP like pussy so they've got a reason to pursue women. I just wish there were a middle ground sub for FD…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:29 AM
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Totally personal perception here, but I see a much higher prevalence for men shaming other men about this sort of thing than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:14 AM
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No problem, and I wish this were true, but I don't think the two are related at all to be honest. I also think if you ask most men who visit prostitutes if they'd marry/ltr a prostitute, even if she didn't do it anymore, a majority would still stay no. Don't really care that much, though, I watch porn, but I definitely wouldn't date a male porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:09 AM
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this is so vicious, but I still laughed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:48 PM
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Most men would give so much more to GigaStacey than they ever would most women, but women seem ok knowing most women aren't her and most men can't have her anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:47 PM
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Yes, yes, yes and THANK YOU. What I usually say is that it's fine if you won't settle. It's fine if your standards are through the roof and you look like Gollum, but shorter with a cheap knock off copy of the ring cause you're poor. It's all fine. But then do not fucking complain. Do not expect sympathy for being rejected and alone. And for the love of God, have some self-awareness and own up to your own hypocrisy when the topic comes up. I don't dislike the hypocrisy as much as the hypocrite wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:22 AM
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Exactly. Also, a HUGE reason to do this is for personal safety. If you have your regular clientele of people you've known for years and trust for discretion and respect, you're sooo much safer than a prostitute going out on a limb every time she meets a new guy. I've heard a lot of the ones that are connected and have done it for years have rules that they won't even consider seeing a new client unless their other prostitute friends in the network have vouched for him first. I have a family memb…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:11 AM
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Yeah, but at the same time if he's traveling a lot for work, he may not have the time to invest in meeting women in every spot. There's also the risk that you start really liking someone, but they live across the country. Idk, I just generally think that I find lying or leading women on in order to have casual sex is worse morally than going to a prostitute where both sides know what it is. Not saying there aren't women who'll have casual sex for free, but with that just comes a much bigger chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:26 AM
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Yeah sure. Where I live it's legal. It'd only be a problem if he did it out of sex addiction, general disrespect for women or if he treated the prostitutes disgustingly and looked down on them for doing their job. If he was just horny and needed what he needed when he needed it, as long as he was respectful to the prostitute, I wouldn't mind. Might even find it a turn on to hear about, given the right circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:30 AM
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Yes, if that were the norm for marriage, I guess. But since it isn't, being offered this might make me feel odd about the man's level of commitment since every other woman was getting regular marriage. It might make me think "why do I have to be th woman who gets a different, less" committed" version of marriage when every other woman I know has their partner willing to go with the norm. It's less abut the money and marriage itself and more about it having been instilled in us since we were litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:25 AM
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No. I find it eye-roll inducing when either gender chases (mostly unsuccessfully) out of their league past teenage years. There's something wrong upstairs if you didn't subconsciously set your superficial expectations for what you can realistically get like every other normal grown adult. I wouldn't necessarily dislike the person, but I wouldn't want to date them, whether I was the hottie they wanted or the uggo they settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:19 PM
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Hm, no I think those traits just often develop within men who are already attractive. You rarely find unattractive guys acting like Mr. Bigballs, trying to carelessly break hearts left right and center. It's just that when a man realizes he's been delt a lot in life where he has many attractive options, he'll often start to act accordingly. Often it'll get to his head (and yeah, same thing happens with a lot of women). I think most women are attracted to a physically attractive, confident and fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:05 AM
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Well, as a young woman too, I think it's not so much that we don't find older men attractive (within limits). It's just that part of attraction is having stuff in common and being on an emotional wavelength. I can imagine having sex with an older guy, but I can't imagine a relationship with someone so far removed from where I am in life so I wouldn't. Also there's just something in me that immediately feels iffy about a guy that chooses to date someone much younger, even if that girl is me, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:05 AM
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Under 5'6 (my own height) Overweight and doesn't give a crap Very overweight or obese Scary skinny Poor hygiene Bad teeth (in the sense that they look like a result of bad oral hygiene, not just crooked) No teeth Micropenis Certain facial feature combinations that I can only point out when I see them (they're rare though) Neck and or face tattoos Physical signs of health neglect, such as an extreme sunbed tan
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:07 PM
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I suppose you could turn off everyone's internet and TV and see if it makes a difference. Other than that you'd have to somehow convince the men that prefer gaming/internet porn/fake online relationships and the women who are content with celibacy and/or monogamy when love/Chad fwb comes around that they'd be happier going with one another and all coupling up equally. Idk tho... As a woman somewhat content with celibacy until real love comes around, not many compelling arguments could be made to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:46 PM
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No because unless you party, work, socialize and date within a very small circle of people and intend to stay in that small circle for the rest of your days and also don't have an internet connection, it literally won't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:41 PM
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Immediate, usually yes it's unrealistic, especially if said girl is average or above herself. Raw, strong and super intense sexual attraction after some time no way in hell. Immediate sexual attraction doesn't happen much for women, I don't think. I don't even think most women would hook up with a 10/10 "Chad" immediately if she didn't know him at all. As a woman, I've felt lots of sexual attraction, but never so immediately that I'd want to have sober sex with them on the first, third or fourth…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:36 PM
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Sure, I have other traits, but at the moment I just don't think I'd be able to let them show so if he went into it as a full person with a vibrant personality and I was just this pretty shell, I don't think it'd be fair on him if that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:18 PM
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No, I don't think you can bring only your appearance, that's why I don't date because I feel like I should be able to bring more than that so I guess I have to work on myself first. I'm 21 so I have time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:06 PM
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As a straight woman, I guess he should bring more masculinity and I should bring femininity. I'm speaking in terms of mannerisms, dress style, certain behaviors. Other than that it just depends on the individual people. For me, I don't bring much beyond a thin body, youth and pretty good looks. My issues with personality are what keeps me from dating because I don't feel like I deserve a guy when I can't bring much other than superficial aspects into it. For him, I guess I'd want him to be at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:55 PM
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But the reason Chad's more of a problem for the average man than Stacey is for the average woman is the Chad is willing to have sex with them, no payment needed. Why would women pay if he's more than happy to give it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:56 AM
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I guess because everyone in the world will experience being old, but not everyone will experience being short. It seems worse to judge people on things that only one group of people, but not all, ever experience. Kind of like skinny people judging fat people; it's worse than fat people judging other fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:58 AM
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People generally act kind of protective of me. It can be annoying at times, but I think I'd miss that if it went away with my vagina and pretty little face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:06 PM
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I think genuinely funny men are always more attractive because of that trait. That being said, there's a difference between funny guy and what I usually refer to as Mr. Funny Guy. First mentioned is just funny, he may be playing it up for girls he likes, but he also just has the natural ability to be funny. Mr. Funny Guy, however, is always performing. He's always thinking of his next line, always trying to figure out how he can squeeze a laugh out of any and every mundane exchange, you can almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:57 PM
1

Is this sarcasm or not? Genuinely can't tell
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:48 PM
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I think they were probably being honest, you just hadn't noticed the guy. Maybe he'd been hiding a bit because he was shy. Either way, it's still a compliment that someone thinks you're cute.
/r/seduction20/03/20 05:39 PM
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I wasn't really talking about sympathy here. I have the same level of sympathy for the men and the women in this scenario. But the fact that so many men on here will point out that only the men in this scenario should be sympathized with because hey, the woman gets laid, is what I'm not quite understanding. They're literally equivalents. It's like if every time a guy complained of being friendzoned, people would bombard him with "well, at least you get verbal and respectful attention outside of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:30 PM
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I think the best comparison is the friend zone for guys. They'll orbit some girl who'll give them friendly attention because that's all they can get from her, just like sometimes an ugly girl will let herself be pump-and-dumped by some guy who won't even be friendly with her because that's all she can get from him. I can't fathom how guys can't see that these are the opposite gender-equivalents, even when they readily admit that there's a difference between how men and women function in regards …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:21 PM
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Uhm, I don't think you'll have much luck if you say anything sexually right off the bat. The most you can do is give very flirty eyecontact and half-smiles that creates a sexual tension between you and her - given she reciprocates, that is. If she does, I think with a lot of women you can get away with a half-selfdeprecating little boyish grin while saying something like "I really like your, uhm... necklace" or "really like those... jeans" (while glancing at her chest or bum). As a girl, this wo…
/r/seduction16/03/20 10:22 AM
9

As a girl, I have to say this I get that it's difficult if the girl isn't talking much herself, but you must try and stand your ground and make it non-verbally clear to her that you expect her to add 50% to the conservation too. Talking too much in a date setting, even if it's just because the other person talks too little, gives the impression of insecurity. You're trying too hard, you're overly afraid of awkward silence and you've got it in your head that the responsibility is all in you to ke…
/r/seduction15/03/20 01:10 PM
3

Definitely, but I wouldn't use the examples that you did. Those sound more like things people do out of comfortability/feelings left over/availability. To me, I see it mostly done for women when they get stuck on a guy out of their league because he'll still give her sexual attention once in a while and then keep giving him chances over and over, chances that they'd never lend to a less attractive guy. Same for guys with a girl out of their league, except she isn't giving him sexual attention, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 01:03 PM
1

Sadly yes, but I'm well aware I have a stupid kink for it. I keep it to the fantasy level though. Unless if his girlfriend is much better looking than me, though, then I just lose interest cause that ruins the kink for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 10:53 AM
3

Well no, but what I mean is if hearing your girlfriend mention one thing someone else did better in one area of sex gets to you that much, you're probably very insecure about yourself in that area. Listing all of the things other girls did better was in no way equivalent to what she said, it was spiteful and childish and a clear sign of insecurity. I'm not saying she wasn't wrong for saying what she said, but your reaction was in no way that of someone who is comfortable with themselves and whos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 10:42 AM
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Tbh this reads like the definition of "beta" to me. She had one stupid slip of the tongue and instead of being annoyed at that like a normal person, you went full insecure petty bitch on her and went way overboard, even to the point of ruining your relationship. That's one of the most insecure things I could imagine. It's
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:13 AM
2

What about if you kind of knew the woman, but not well, and then she came up and asked you out? (And she was thin and not ugly) Would you still think cray-cray?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:12 PM
1

Yeah, I'd say it was those two things, as well as the fact that we shared the same kind of humour. I'd also add that because I was talking to him as a friend and not thinking of it in terms of attraction, it gave me more time to grow comfortable looking at him and eventually his looks just became connected to the chemistry we had and so I didn't see him as objectively as I had before I knew him. There's also really a lot of truth to the fact that people become more attractive the more time you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 08:23 PM
1

Well with one the initial no was based purely on knowing him for a day and his looks. The hard yes came after a couple days spent in his company. The other one was a neutral no for like six months and then one day he smiled a particular way and I thought "hey, I like the spark in your eyes and the way your face crinkled when you smile". Then soon after I had a romantic dream about him and boom, I was suddenly lusting HARD whenever I saw him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:00 PM
5

I always just assume the women doing this are either severe looking, insecure or both. Instant scroll past and ignore..
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/20 05:32 PM
20

Had a guy more than forty years older than me come up and hit on me hard at work recently. All I could think was that this guy must be seriously insane. To actually get to that age and not have realised that going up to someone young enough to be your grandchild and hitting on them isn't normal just... Baffles me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/20 05:27 PM
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They're important to the extent where if the thought of having sex with someone that looks like them literally makes me cringe to my core, I will never be attracted no matter what. If initially, though, they're just a neutral no, they can totally become a hard yes later. Two guys I've been most wildly attracted to in my life were one hard no at first and the other a soft no. But then things changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 05:23 PM
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No way. They are (or have been) however tought that they can be loved by a conventionally attractive woman whether they themselves are conventionally attractive or not. As a woman, I've sometimes felt mopey about the fact that there's more pressure and importance placed on what I look like, even if most of it is beyond my control, but then I always think again; I'm awkward as fuck and struggle massively with shyness. This may cause issues when meeting men, but society never tells me that it's in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:27 PM
6

I want a relationship/marriage as equal human beings, but that doesn't mean I want to completely erase gender. There's a reason, beyond sex and sexual organs, that as a heterosexual woman, I won't be dating other women. Whether he pays or I pay doesn't really matter, but I wouldn't want to date a man who treats me like a "bro" in any way. I think it's more the element of feeling like a woman in his company, just as you want him to feel like a man in yours, that's important. If he offers to pay o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:47 PM
3

oh honey no..
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/20 05:43 PM
4

As a 21-year-old woman, this is what I hope to look like at forty. She looks incredible for being past 50 (if she really is)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/20 05:25 PM
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Yeah, that's what makes me iffy about it. In theory, the "happy" prostitute is completely morally fine with me, but the fact that it's difficult to know who's choosing their own path out of many options and who feels or is forced to do it makes me rethink.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 08:01 PM
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Hm, maybe I'm too plain or too much of a recluse, but I don't find real life attention that abundant. Unless you dress up to the nines every time you leave the house, you'll more often than not be left alone. Sure, on social media or dating apps, if random guys send very low effort messages that they've probably copy pasted for all the women they half-way fancy, I'll more likely than not just never respond, which I don't think they care that much about. If a guy actually approaches me in real li…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:38 PM
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Provided the prostitute is an adult who's fully willingly gone into the profession for herself and no other beneficiaries pressuring her behind the scenes, I'd say prostitute every day of the week. Aforementioned kind of prostitution is legal where I live, I see nothing wrong with it under those circumstances. I think if I were a man and wanted to visit a prostitute, though, I'd probably try to make sure that she was older (25+), didn't feel like she had no other option but to do this job and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:24 PM
2

Wow a disproportionately large part of this sub is quite a bit above average looking... Seems legit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:15 PM
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Also, the amount of guys willing to tell you how beautiful you are on a very exaggerated scale from what you actually look like in order to get a date/get sex. As a very young girl, when I was first old enough to start hearing this, I literally thought I was the most beautiful girl they'd ever met just because they said it. Really inflated my ego for a while, until my brain developed a bit more and I came back down to earth. Besides, girls don't really have inflated egos; deep-rooted insecurity …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:40 PM
3

That's the thing about waiting ages for me that just wouldn't work; I haven't had sex in a looong time because I don't like it as a casual thing much, but I know for a fact that if I get genuinely interested in someone, I'm going to be so attracted to them on every level that holding off on having him like that would be near impossible (assuming he was making it clear he wanted it too). Women may not have as strong an urge for sex in and of itself, but we certainly feel the urge a lot when the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:47 PM
1

This is true. I also read somewhere in a study that women who dated much older men were on average less (objectively) attractive than their peers who dated within their age range. As a young woman, my general perception is that women who date much older men do it because their youth in and of itself gives them an instant boost in attractiveness that they wouldn't benefit from with a man their own age. Say, you're a young girl who's seen as below average looking by most men your age. You may be g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:06 AM
1

Yeah, some definitely have a harder time than others. I was with someone who wanted really badly to make me come at one point, so trust me he put in his work, oral as well as everything else. I know for me it's not what I or he is doing, it's the fact that I have a (tmi) fetish that I've always had and cannot orgasm without concentrating on this particular thing or watching porn with it so its always going to be difficult for me to come with a guy as the fetish is a mental one and not something …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 06:37 AM
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It's my plan to try it out whenever I get a regular partner again, but sometimes with sex I also just want to get lost in the feeling and enjoy it as I do without having to worry about trying to achieve a certain thing all throughout, you know? But it's definitely something I will try out at some point. I think with me it's mostly a mental block and I definitely can't fault past partners for not having tried their hardest to please me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:59 PM
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As a woman who has never orgasmed during sex, but always do while masturbating, these kinds of questions always feel a bit discouraging to me. I can easily orgasm and that's all well and nice, but when I want sex, its a different itch I want scratched. If a guy finally does manage to make me come, awesome, but if not I still enjoy the feeling of the sex and the closeness with a man I find attractive. There's more to sex for both men and women than just the orgasm and the notion that the sex is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:00 PM
2

Honestly no, unless we're talking arranged marriage or 90day fiance type of stuff. I think the vast majority of women are sexually attracted to a guy when they decide to marry him. It's just that once she realizes he's a stable thing and if his behavior is generally good perfect adoring husband-like with no "alpha" aspects, that's when I feel women are inclined to have the attraction slowly fade off. That's why people say they have more sex in the first year of marriage and then it starts to wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:28 AM
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Yeah, and I agree in that case. I just didn't want the guys to feel like if they weren't approaching supermodels they weren't doing well enough. The most important thing is just to meet someone you personally like and connect with, not making sure you get the hottest person in every room. But I agree, I myself am a pretty attractive girl (looks wise anyway lol) and never get approached. I've tried so many times where I was told later that so and so really thought I was hot, but just never did an…
/r/seduction27/11/19 03:03 PM
1

Well, unless you're already doing super well with less attractive girls and know that you're a pretty hot guy, I don't see a problem with a guy who's a 5 not beating himself over the head about 8+ girls. It's natural and healthy to get a sense of your odds and where you lie league wise and playing somewhat within that field. There aren't enough 8+ looking girls to go around for all the guys of every league to have one, and vice versa, so I don't see why average looking people should be worrying …
/r/seduction26/11/19 05:28 PM
1

Just like with anything when someone says they like a naturally beautiful girl, they mean a girl they think is naturally beautiful. The idea of the enhancement itself is a turn off to anyone as it indicates vanity, but if whatevers been tweaked comes across as natural and actually is an improvement then no harm is done. When guys say they don't like that stuff, it's also cause they associate it with fried blonde hair, drawn on eyebrows and a generally immobile cat like face. Those are the obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:11 AM
1

I think it's what people grow accostumed to because it's what around mostly. I don't believe it's the ideal, though, because if you look at the men who could have literally any woman of their pick (famous musicians, actors, big male models) they still overwhelmingly date the skinny VS model body type. I think people just tend to grow a preference for what's more attainable to them personally (which is a good thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 07:58 AM
2

Well, I'd be happy to have below average intelligence in that scenario as I feel like I'd be just slightly less aware of how badly off I was. Anyway, if I had the same sexuality as I do as a woman, I'd just focus on non-romantic things in my life and find passion and pleasure in that. I'd also try to find a woman who was equally ugly as I know that I'm capable of finding ugly people attractive if I take it slow and develop feelings for them. I've gone for over four years sexless at this point an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:04 AM
1

I agree that women have a harder time enjoying sex in general - it seems that it's just easier for guys to reach enjoyment from casual sex. That's no surprise. That being said, as a woman who has vaginismus and anxiety, I've still been able to enjoy sex a lot. I think one of the biggest reasons why I have been able to enjoy it is that I'm vocal. If there's something I don't like, I tell you. If there's something I do like, I tell you. If there's something I'm not sure if you like, I ask you. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 10:48 AM
1

Yeah, but the problem is that this guy is very clearly not in a mindset where he's susceptible to flirtation or looks. Like, I get the sense that he hasn't even thought of me or it as an option and doesn't think in flirtatious lines when at work. Therefore he doesn't react or even notice any looks or little signals. That could be because he isn't interested, but at the same time I'm thinking that he could maybe become interested if he knew that I was. So I don't know whether making a more clear …
/r/seduction11/11/19 09:10 AM
1

No, haha, I mean I exaggerated a bit with the first name thing, I just mean that I haven't spoken to him about anything really personal ever
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:12 PM
1

Well, I think it's more that people are going to come off shitty to people theyre just not that into. If a guy or girl goes for people out of their league over and over, theyre bound to end up being the one who's more into their partner than the other way round. They either know this and choose to continue because they've grown accostumed to a certain standard of looks/can't maintain interest unless the person is that goodlooking, or they don't realise their situation and blame it on the other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 03:04 PM
2

Well, I'm not sure if what you're looking for is a scenario in which you get what you want regardless of the other persons feelings or one in which you both get what you really want and no one gets hurt. I know it's pretty obvious that the latter option is preferable, but I guess I'm unsure as to whether you'd be willing to sacrifice the other persons feelings and wishes in order to get more of what you want. If that's the case, you'll probably be able to convince people to do things your way de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:06 PM
1

Doesn't seem fake or acted. (Amateur, preferably homemade). Contains the acts and positions I like. Don't care what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:03 PM
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Yeah, for pure physical attraction, Chad has a wall. If he didn't age horribly (drugs, excessive smoking, sun, whatever) he'll still be Chad to women in his age group and probably women 10-15 years younger if he's really handsome. Chad, from how Ive understood it, is attractive because he's actually attractive. Like, you wanna sleep with him because you wanna sleep with him. Rich and/or famous men have a different allure. The ones who choose to date much younger/prettier women are giving up the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:55 PM
3

Well, ill be honest with you, as a woman hearing that makes me want to immediately run in the opposite direction. I don't think Im in the minority. With that being said, I think your best bet, if you don't want to hurt the people youre sleeping with, or cause drama, is to only sleep with likeminded people. Just as she can't change your stance on monogamy, you probably can't change hers. We tend to stand pretty strongly on these kinds of preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:45 PM
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Hm, that seems like a good pre-commitment stage that you could drag out longer than usual if both parties are cool with it. Problem with this is that theres an even higher chance that at least one party assumes it is heading towards relationship-territory because "hey. We dont just have sex, we sleep over and cuddle, he comes round wirh soup when I've got a cold, he does things that make me feel like he wants more". I don't think you can convince women who arent into casual sex that a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:02 PM
2

I have a theory that there are high rates of transgender MTF prostitutes and/or sugar babies because biological males have an easier time engaging in acts like these without being emotionally affected. I think the real reason most women don't do it is because they'll be extremely uncomfortable with and after the physical situation of it. Theres an element of societal shaming too, but I think the first point is a bigger thing than people realise. I think as long as there are men who'll pay for se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:50 PM
1

Idk, I used to think like you and thought I was that one unicorn girl who could have sex without feelings. Then I actually had sex and quickly realised why it usually doesn't work out for us girls; sex breeds feelings of attachment. A girl might very well go into something with the same intentions as you, but down the line, the physical attachment feelings are just extremely likely to occur for her. For myself and most women, if we know the guy hasn't made it clear he wants more, we dont choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:41 PM
1

Yeah, I don't get how these guys don't get simplest logic sometimes. Why do they think the situation is as scewed as it is? Could it possibly be that women don't want (casual) sex very much because it isnt pleasurable to (most of) them mentally or physically and so that's why they arent giving it up as easy as guys? And don't even get started on the "girls have too high standards" thing. It's actually pretty equal. Men and women both have a decent standard for who they'll date and fall in love w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:05 AM
2

I was with you until the Maggie Gyllenhaal comment. She's what I'd assume most would consider pretty in the real world (not movies or Hollywood) facially so now I feel like your standards may actually be a little high after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:17 AM
2

I get the thinking and sometimes I think this too, but then I remember that we interpret people's body language waaaay differently depending on what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:42 AM
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I wonder sometimes if part of the issue is that the guys screaming about not getting women are between 0-4/10 in terms of looks, but either don't realise that or can't accept that that's the actual "league" (feel cringey writing this in ratings and stuff, but it's the most straight forward wording, I guess) theyre playing in, or at least "should" be playing in if they wanted to have a more fair shot with the opposite sex. Most below average looking guys I see that also go for below average looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 06:57 AM
1

Hm, on one hand I get what youre saying and theres nothing worse than giving someone your complete trust only to find out youve been lied to and disrespected all along. That being said, idk if not trusting people by default is so much better. As much as ive seen people who were too trusting, Ive also seen soooooo many people be too insecure when they had no reason to. As a woman, I know how the cheating stats are and how men tend to work, but I think I'll prefer to keep my trusting nature and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:05 AM
1

Well, that's the most realistic answer for me personally because otherwise (without feelings) I pretty much don't like having sex, but if I had to fuck one of them and I didn't at all know these hypothetical men save for the qualities you've mentioned, I guess I'd pick the better looking one. If I had to be intimate with someone I didn't have feelings for, I'd be less repulsed if that person at least had nice skin and looked better objectively. I don't really care about great skills, I can't ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:29 PM
5

Very unnattractive and/or obese women who say theyre lesbian/asexual often choose subconsciously to be those things as a "well, I didnt wanna be invited to your party anyways haha" selfdefense mechanism, but then insist with every fibre in their being that they were just born this way. Not that I mind, theyre probably better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 04:55 PM
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Whichever one I have feelings for
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 04:48 PM
1

My god, I'd never have the confidence to do that, I admire you so much for that. Especially when the guy is extremely attractive, I'd never dare make a first move on someone like that because I'd assume they were out of my league. Also, I don't think guys typically give false numbers on purpose, they seem less shy of confrontation in general than us girls so he probably did just get it wrong by accident. Good luck !
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/19 09:52 AM
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I'd say it depends on what kind of man you're looking for and what kind of "basis" you have underneath the makeup. I wear no makeup for the most part, but when I do it's mascara and some lip+cheek tint. If im having skin issues, I prefer to work on my skin instead of covering with foundation and that kind of thing. Bad skin is usually the number one thing people get freaked out about in those "the power of makeup" images. Some guys do like a makeuppy look, but not most and definitely not most of…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 04:34 PM
2

This. It's a bit risky to assume it's all just down to an unrealistically low self-perception when in reality part of healthy self-preservation for a woman is to feel out whether a guy is so "out of her league" that he'll more likely than not just be going for a hook-up and nothing more. Sure, once in a while people have low self esteem and are actually better looking than they think, but generally if you feel that someone is so out of your league that they intimidate you and it feels too good t…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 04:23 PM
1

Yeah, but I guess it depends on what you base "no way in hell" off of. When I for instance say "no way in hell" I don't mean a nope, no initial attraction, I mean someone who is in some way so wildly far from anything you could ever be attracted to that you know (unless they made changes) it just wouldn't happen. An example would be someone who's really morbidly obese, has lost almost all their teeth due to bad hygiene, is forty years your senior, is three heads shorter than you, never showers, …
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/19 11:15 AM
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I think the key is that the idea of becoming attracted to them has to seem at least possible to you. Ive definitely experienced feeling nothing at first and then developing even insane attractions later on. This has, however, never happened with someone where I felt downright put off at the thought of being with them at first. I think (for me at least) a guy can go from neutral to attractive, but not "no way in hell" to attractive.
/r/RedPillWomen02/09/19 02:01 PM
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I think maybe when they say sexual peak they don't mean sexual attractiveness peak, but rather when people have their own inner sexual peak. Meaning, men are most horny around age 18 or so and women become hornier later on. Not necessarily that those people are most attractive to others at those ages.
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