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Look at any university campus: Frat boys are the most racist, misogynistic, and homophobic men around and are having the most sex with college girls (a very liberal demographic).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:50 PM
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All the money in the world is nothing compared to sex with attractive young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:51 AM
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if a guy is even nice to us and doesn’t think we should have fewer rights than men, then we find them attractive as hell. Beyond delusional. No guys are being found “attractive as hell” unless they follow rules 1 and 2. Guys who are just genuinely nice get friendzoned.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/22 07:27 AM
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What if I actually don’t have options?
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:08 AM
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Yeah they are lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:32 PM
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They're still sexually attracted to women they don't respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:58 PM
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but they are def not physically attracted to women they sleep with You’re projecting female sexuality onto male sexuality. It’s women who sleep with people (betas, hardly people at all) they’re not physically attracted to, not men, I’m physically attracted to like 75% of the non-overweight girls on my campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:17 PM
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“Willing to stick my dick in” =/= viscerally attracted. Yes that’s what it means. Women only have casual sex with the small subset of men they’re viscerally attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:23 PM
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Viscerally attracted, they definitely are. Attracted to their personality, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:21 PM
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Men are viscerally attracted to the women they end up with. Women aren’t viscerally attracted to the men they end up with. That means women settle and men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:29 AM
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Mostly all guys want the kim kardashian look Yuck. Beyond delusional lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:24 AM
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Men nowadays only like photoshopped and filtered stacy’s Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:21 AM
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Which guys think are gross. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:17 AM
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Only the hottest men will illicit the type of response in women that men typically have for any attractive woman. So we’re screwed if we’re not in this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:42 AM
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It's just a word for alphas which are real lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:46 AM
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For real this sub makes me feel so hopeless
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:52 PM
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This sub makes me so depressed 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:34 PM
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Smash
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:30 PM
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But “want to fuck” “tingles” for rando’s lol no None of this applies to you then. There’s a fundamental difference between women who only feel “want to fuck” tingles after getting to know a man (like you just claimed) and women who only feel “want to fuck” tingles immediately for a small subset of superior men. It seems that women naturally fall into either category, likely due to genetics. Many/most women do feel those tingles immediately for certain men, which is why Chads are able to slay mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:07 PM
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Sure attraction from personality is more stable over time, but it will never reach the “want to fuck” tingles she got from fucking hot guys in her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:56 PM
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Youth. Beta bucks is a worthless form of life, might as well be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:43 PM
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So basically men need to accept the fact that they’ll live miserable, worthless, and pathetic lives due to losing the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:40 PM
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And people can become more attractive in your eyes once you get to know them. This will never reach the same level as the genuine, visceral attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:36 PM
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There’s bigger things to worry about and first world “dating issues” don’t compare. No there aren’t lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:32 AM
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It’s not about more chances, it’s that he actually experiences raw visceral attraction unlike betas. So what that I was born in America with my biggest issue being that I can’t get laid? It makes life worthless and dogshit regardless of wealth. It’s like being a palace eunuch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:12 AM
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Where then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:02 AM
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Okay but what social skills? The guys I see having casual sex irl are cocky/charming/douchey, the type of behavior red pill encourages. And it seems women complain all the time about getting pumped and dumped by these types of guys so surely it’s an effective sex-obtaining strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:00 AM
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That’s me :( I’m trying not to be so fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:02 AM
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So what hope is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:08 PM
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Of course older men’s preference for younger women is not likely converted into sexual activity, women in their 20s generally don’t want to fuck middle aged men. But the older men still prefer younger women to older women, even though they usually can’t act on it. As your link says: Whereas women of all ages prefer slightly older sexual partners, men—regardless of their age—have a preference for women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:26 PM
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get better at casual dating scene and no, you don’t have to be a jerk for that Okay so what do I have to do? It’s largely determined by genetics but what changes can I actually make?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:41 PM
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I’m talking about in the eyes of men, which is objectively bad for straight women. See the two graphs from this study: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:32 PM
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There’s a fundamental difference between having sex for what you are and for what you give. Superior genetics are what you are on the molecular level, the only thing “given” is pleasure, making the sex non-transactional. It’s two people genuinely deriving mutual pleasure from the sex. This is not comparable to beta bux sex. The man is not giving anything (time, energy, commitment, money) but his penis. That’s an objectively superior position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:26 PM
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Periods, being smaller and weaker, being less respected, aging less gracefully, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:16 PM
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I must have missed when it was debunked. I don’t see how it’s an avoidable conclusion. If you’re not attractive enough to have casual sex with a woman but other men are, then in the eyes of that women you belong to an inferior subset of men. A subset only deemed worthy of sex if it’s accompanied by commitment/provisions. Whereas with the superior subset, sex is a mutually pleasurable activity that doesn’t require additional compensation. Since more men belong to the former subset than to the lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:25 AM
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Typo on the bracket. Still there’s no explanation as to why the 18-29 bracket has a disparity, it’s not explained by people aged 18-29 dating those in the 30-49 age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:10 AM
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Regardless of my emotions, the users were still denying AFBB. There are plenty of comments there denying the existence of AFBB and calling the standard PPD arguments for it fallacious. It applies in virtually every situation where a bottom 80% man commits to a woman who’s had casual sex. This seems to be most long-term relationships for people aged like 27+. What I find more interesting however is the simple acknowledgement that AFBB is a negative outcome. So many women and bluepillers on PPD ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:51 AM
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Bullshit. The “blue pillers” on this subreddit are purple-pilled at bluest. They just concede red pill points and pretend like they’re blue pilled. AFBB is literally the core narrative of TRP, it’s the harsh reality that taking the red pill opens your eyes to like the matrix. See my post here on IncelExit to see what happened when I argued AFBB with actual bluepillers. This comment in particular. Now these are bluepillers, not whoever the hell calls themselves blue in this sub. So what now? What…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:24 AM
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Re-read my comment. Men are more likely than women to be single in the 30-49 bracket (27% vs 19%) as well as the 18-29 bracket. Meaning this can’t be the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:04 AM
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Re-read the comment of mine you initially responded to. Men are more likely than women to be single in the 30-49 bracket (27% vs 19%) as well as the 18-29 bracket. Meaning this can’t be the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:02 AM
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Lol no. Never in my life have I been envious of a woman (in the sense that I would genuinely choose to live her life given the opportunity).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:01 AM
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And you think there’s so many 18-29 year old women dating 50+ men as to affect the data that heavily?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:57 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:56 AM
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PPD overwhelmingly agrees that AFBB is a real and prevalent phenomenon. What now? In this thread all of the comments I saw by bluepillers concede the existence of AFBB. If I can talk a little about my feelings without this post getting removed, the above thread made me feel awful: I still find it hard to accept the harsh reality, it makes me nihilistic and misanthropic and sad. It makes me lose faith in humanity and in my own moral compass. By lose faith in humanity I mean in a literal sense tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:55 AM
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Why can’t we have magical altruism and (nearly) unconditional love? Why can’t I just have my innocent puppy love reciprocated by a girl who feels the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:55 AM
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I’m assuming the Pew Research Center chose a sufficiently large sample size in order for these results to represent the population, considering they’re explicitly portraying it as representative of US adults. Would be a pretty major hit to their credibility if they had sampling error this massive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:08 AM
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According to the same data: Among men aged 30-49 27% are single. Among women aged 30-49 only 19% are single. So that can’t be the explanation. The only explanation I can think of is that it’s Chads fucking women in soft harem situations and the women don’t consider themselves single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:53 AM
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51% of men aged 18-29 are single while 32% of women aged 18-29 are single Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:45 AM
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No, it's the opposite. In the fable, the wolf can't reach the grapes so he devalues them by calling them sour. Nobody here is pretending that casual sex with young, attractive women isn't valuable. Rather it's the best thing on the planet a man can experience. In fact it's the bluepillers who attempt to devalue casual sex and call it overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:30 AM
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Former and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:26 AM
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No idea how everyone here isn't completely nihilistic/misanthropic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:19 AM
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Only around 20% of men are capable of deciding to "have fun and fuck fun party girls." Not all even decide to so it's like 15% of men doing this. Nobody would be complaining if AFBB was only done by 15% of women. Even then, what separates you from those fun party girls is behavior, it's not like casual sex is something they get to have because they're genetically superior to you. You made a choice not to live their lifestyle. Billy Beta did not choose to be a sexless loser. The root cause of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:19 AM
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This wouldn't be a problem if blue pillers actually had good arguments against these cruel realities being real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:47 AM
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All that "butterface" has to do is not engage in casual sex, and she circumvents the problem entirely. If she wants to engage in casual sex, she should have no problem being "a certain kind of woman used just to get off." That's what casual sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:23 AM
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The emotionally hurt part comes from belonging to a worthless underclass of the human species. It's not weird or a mental illness, this has been the prevailing male mindset regarding sex for all of human history, the solution was just socially enforced youthful monogamy. This lasted much later than people think, the median age of first marriage for women was 22 in 1980 (US Census Bureau). Millennials/Gen Z are the first generations of men suffering from AFBB, there is nothing individual about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:23 AM
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The point is that being boyfriend material >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband material. Literally nothing you just said addresses that point, whereas I just made a point supporting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:16 AM
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There's no point in making money as a beta. To buy what? Funko pops? Cookies for your sci fi book club?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:04 AM
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The difference is that men sort women into those categories by behavior rather than genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:44 AM
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I want to believe it's not true. Which is why I'm on r/purplepilldebate and not /r/TheRedPill. If you have no argument against it, then I'll start considering the implications of it being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:43 AM
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The ability to have sex with women commitment free is what defines an alpha, given that the women aren't fat/post-wall/ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:42 AM
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So you concede it exists, and is emotionally harmful to men. What exactly are you debating here? What claims are you making?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:31 AM
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Something women have in their primes. Unlike husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:29 AM
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Have none of the words in this thread made it to your eyes? This isn't about middle aged marriages...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:27 AM
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since you'd probably still get married by like 25 Much earlier. The average age of female first marriage was 20.5 in 1970.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:25 AM
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Bluepillers make stupid posts like this then get logically eviscerated in the comments. Redpillers/blackpillers make posts and the comments from bluepillers inadvertently concede the arguments in the post. The post will be about AFBB and the opposing comments will be “So what? Billy Beta should be grateful.” At this point they don’t even argue against the concepts, they just argue that you should actually be happy with the bleak and depressing reality. This is the pattern of the sub, not confirm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:07 AM
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It’s because I want to see actual good arguments against the red/black pilled content I see here, but the arguments presented by the opposition are dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:36 AM
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Not gonna lie this subreddit makes me feel hopeless and worthless. I don’t know why I even browse here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:28 AM
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I didn’t want to be 18 (a legal adult) and still a virgin. Meanwhile I’m approaching 21 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:28 AM
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Women become upset when their quality of life is lowered due to genetic characteristics outside of their control. Men become upset when their quality of life is lowered due to genetic characteristics outside of their control. A short man could say both forms of discrimination are wrong and should be counteracted, and he would not be contradicting himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:19 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:27 AM
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It triggers the deepest sense of nihilism and existential agony. The fact that a genetic trait that has no utility in the modern world has a huge impact on quality of life through dating and career (58% of male Fortune 500 CEOs are 6’+, compared to 14.5% of men) is sickening. It’s mother nature reminding you that you’re a worthless hairless ape. That man’s attempt to claw his way out of the wilderness is in vain, the forces of nature will drag him back down. Until he loses faith in human existen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:37 AM
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but virgins who actually practice self-control and respect themselves and women, I’m glad that women want me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:08 AM
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When you said “for there not being enough virgins to go around” I assume you meant female virgins. There’s certainly no shortage of male virgins, male virginity rates are sky high. Only women are responsible for the shortage of female virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:09 AM
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Why do you get upset at the standards of men you don’t even desire? I feel a little upset when girls say they only want guys who are 6’+ (I’m 5’10) but I fully admit that’s because I do in fact desire those girls. If that height preference was something only expressed by, say, fat girls, I wouldn’t care in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:53 AM
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Well, those guys sleeping around are every bit as responsible as the gals they're sleeping with are for there not being enough virgins to go around. No. They're. Not. There exists as much sex as women want there to exist. If women decided they didn't want to sleep around, there would simply be no hookup culture. What men decide is irrelevant (except in the case of literal rape).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:45 AM
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It's that men act one way, and then they shit talk women who act the same way. It's not that they date and screw different people. It's the way they talk shit about people who do the same things we do. Women don't topically do that, at least from what I've seen. I don't buy that it's the shit-talking that upsets women, rather than the actual prevalence of the preference. This reminds me of when short men say "I'm not upset that women prefer tall men I'm just upset that some women shit on short m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:39 AM
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Firstly, I'm talking about the women you said are being "debased" under this mindset. Meaning women with high body counts, aka promiscuous women. Secondly, casual sex is the hardest type of sex for men to get, so the promiscuous = low standards jab doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:33 AM
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disgusting double standards For wanting one type of woman for short-term relationships and another type for long-term relationships? How is that any different than AFBB? Do you view that as a disgusting double standard as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:25 AM
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Even then it's not really contradictory, since someone else was still going to fuck her if you didn't. Your littering analogy is false because whether littering occurs is entirely up to the offender, whereas promiscuous women decide to engage in sex. She can only "debase" herself, and you can benefit from that debasement or someone else will. A more accurate analogy would be someone complaining about legal tax loopholes while still using them. Which isn't really contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:21 AM
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And? I’m not denying I’m a virgin, but going straight to insulting someone for their virginity instead of engaging with the argument is ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:36 AM
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Over 2.8 million people die each year as a result of being overweight or obese (WHO). This isn’t a little extra weight, she’s obese. Nobody ever said that we can use “weight alone” to judge health, weight is one significant metric. BMI is statistically a very accurate predictor of life expectancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:26 AM
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Straight to ad hominem I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:20 AM
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Ask any doctor if this is acceptable, and they’ll tell you she needs to lose weight. Men’s preferences literally push women towards healthier lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:04 AM
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Yes ego, there’s a sense of superiority that comes with being the first. Literally getting to take her innocence, and experience the purest form she has to offer. The only way to truly avoid having your ego wounded by the guy who took your LTR’s virginity in the past, is to have taken someone else’s virginity in the past. I didn’t make the rules but that’s how it works emotionally. In the ideal world, everyone would take someone’s virginity. Whereas if, for example, only 50% of men have the plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:03 AM
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The specific claim I responded to was: There’s no particular reason why women with a lot of sexual partners couldn’t be more highly desirable. This is only applicable to situations where n-count is already known.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:40 AM
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They can still get laid, but it won’t be an attractor. Making it equivalent to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:08 AM
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You can just both get tested before starting any LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:07 AM
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You can bring a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. Money and power can get pussy, but they can’t make pussy wet. She’s not going to feel real primal attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:58 AM
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It doesn’t involve attraction when ugly rich guys get laid either. Steve Bannon could easily use his money to fuck a model. Doesn’t mean she’d be attracted to his troglodyte ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:27 AM
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because very attractive girls would be sleeping with the top % of men You’re acting like this doesn’t happen right now? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:02 AM
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Yes there is a reason: Our brains didn’t evolve in an environment where biochemical birth control or DNA tests existed. Our brains see a woman with lots of sexual partners and think: “If I had sex with her I wouldn’t know whether the kid is mine.” No amount of cultural brainwashing can erase that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:00 AM
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Money and status don’t actually make a man attractive. Jeff Bezos can fuck IG models all day long but they’re not actually attracted to him. They’re attracted to the guys they fuck for free, aka IG-model-tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:57 AM
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That’s the equivalent of prostitution, doesn’t really count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:55 AM
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Ego. It’s typically an experience that only superior guys get to have. It means you were chosen and you get to take her innocence. Considering the 50-50 ratio of men to women it’s pretty pathetic to never take a woman’s virginity, especially considering every woman had her virginity taken by a guy who’s not you. You’re basically a loser forever at this point. I have no sexual or romantic experience. I feel like there’s a certain level of innocent unjaded puppy love that can only exist between tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:51 AM
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God is not real. Churches are full of “born again virgins” who are now waiting until marriage. After they’re done with college of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:40 AM
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How is that a problem? If a man can’t get sex he is truly worthless in the eyes of women. Being respected and admired only means he’s a productive and docile worker bee, like some kind of Oompa Loompa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:54 AM
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then what the fuck are sugar daddies? Sugar daddies are Johns, nothing more. They’re not even in a relationship, they’re just Johns with a euphemism. Sugar babies are just hookers. The guys that “sugar babies” fuck without payment, those are the real winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:37 AM
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This whole idea that women are soooo turned on by hot men because of their sheer looks in the same way men who see the female body as an object are is false. The Chadfish experiment(s) prove this wrong. Just google “Chadfish experiment” and look through google images.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:31 AM
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it was the richest men that had the harems not the most handsome That’s why so many women fantasize about fucking Jeff Bezos. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:24 AM
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Funny how you’re not even arguing against the red pill at all since it’s too obvious. You’re just going straight to “Okay, and?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:05 AM
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they get the girl in the end. They’re technically the winners. Lol I can’t believe this was written unironically. Pure insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:57 AM
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Okay then why don’t you actually debate the points instead of just insulting him. Yeah some of those points are wacky (“women like dishonest men”) but the core AFBB point is solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:53 AM
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To think a man is less than because he “had to work for it” is just so far removed from humanity He didn’t have to work for “it,” he never got “it” in his miserable and worthless life. “It” here meaning genuine sexual attraction, which can only be proven through casual sex. No ability to have casual sex = no ability to generate genuine sexual attraction = worthless for anything besides cuckoldry and wage slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:44 AM
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Does he only love her because he “has her” in her prime I believe it works by retroactive proxy. If a man was sexually successful in his youth, even if it was on the other side of the country, he’s not bothered by her past. He’s proven his presence on the right tail of the (simulated due to contraceptives) reproductive fitness distribution curve. However a man who was sexually unsuccessful in youth, has been retroactively rejected by proxy. Since he wasn’t good enough to have sex before the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:38 AM
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Men, regardless of their age, will always be attracted to women in their early 20s. Look at the graphs in this study. It’s not misogyny it’s just a scientific fact that the men who sleep with a woman when she’s young get to enjoy her best years. The chump who commits after she “grows and matures” is objectively inferior to the men she previously fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:49 AM
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BS. Hot + immature/boring/disrespectful = easy access to casual sex Ugly + good personality = she’s not really attracted to you and is going to break up or cheat once she feels genuinely physical attracted to her hot coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:25 PM
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and actually want to commit. No matter how willing they are to commit, the top 20% of men can’t commit to more than 20% of women. That means the other 80% of women’s interactions with the top 20% of men are purely casual. Leaving at least 80% of women unable to obtain commitment from a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:10 PM
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What are you even saying? Last comment you said you want to find men that want a relationship more than they want sex. That means you want a relationship more than you want sex. If you want a relationship more than you want sex, you can just… choose to look for a relationship instead of having casual sex. What are you confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:49 PM
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You don’t need me to bounce, you can just… choose not to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:41 PM
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The top 20% of men commit to relationships with the top 20% of women. This leaves the bottom 80% of women unable to secure commitment from these men. But they’re still able to have casual sex with them. Remember we’re exclusively talking about the subset of women who have casual sex, none of this discussion can be applied to women who make all men wait. These women have sex with the best options available to them for casual sex, which are top 20% men. When they’ve had their decade of fun and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:53 PM
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It’s not ugly vs attractive. It’s attractive (top 20%) vs average (middle 60%) vs unattractive (bottom 20%). Unattractive has no chance. Average waits. Attractive doesn’t. Average women date average looking men (chumps) in exclusively long-term contexts while casually fucking attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:44 PM
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All you come here and do is leave comments confirming red pill worldviews. What are you even arguing against?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:40 PM
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So that we can be the chumps who wait? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:35 PM
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The difference is that the man would have casually slept with his future wife/gf if he was given the opportunity to. Whereas women only sleep with high tier men before settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:33 PM
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What percentage of men are high value men? 20%? They're only going to commit to the top 20% of women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:42 PM
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College is far better for "niche game" than high school. ​ but by the time we were 20 most of the girls grew out of their "rebellious phase" and went from gushing over skinny artsy guys to a general preference for men who either look like military contractors (masculine and bearded) or corporate types (sharply dressed and with a designer stubble) It sounds like you grew up in some lower-middle class neighborhood where the 20 year olds are working at McDonald's and Walmart instead of attending co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:49 AM
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Because the men of PPD are always complaining that women sleep with too few people, want men that are good fathers, and want men that aren’t assholes. That’s totally what PPD men complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:19 PM
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The SC would just overturn the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:16 PM
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That’s confidence. It would take diagnosed autism to interpret “just be yourself” as “make no changes to your appearance or behavior.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:02 PM
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Genetics are everything
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:18 AM
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Nobody said anything about being dominant. There is nothing countercultural about being fit, confident, and charismatic. This is not underground or controversial knowledge. This is what mainstream society has deemed attractive your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:11 AM
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Yet 66% of the female respondents were satisfied. That doesn’t address the difference between male and female, which is what’s being highlighted here. Even if dissatisfied people respond at a higher rate than satisfied people, you’re still lacking an explanation as to why so many more of those dissatisfied people are men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:27 AM
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Science has shown that men lie to over-exaggerate the sex they’re having. Women lie to under-exaggerate it. The data would become more extreme in the ways I’m highlighting if everyone was forced to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:22 AM
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going to the gym, being confident, being charismatic This isn’t red pill. This is inoffensive advice you could get from your grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:39 PM
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This is all just apex fallacy. “Nightclubs this. Nightclubs that.” Nightclubs are all about sex. They have no utility unless you’re attractive or trying to prey on drunk women. “I don’t have to be passive.” Women don’t “have to be” passive. Their success rate is high and they often aren’t (especially in nightclubs around attractive men). “I don’t have to worry about my safety and security.” Conceal carry a handgun. Problem solved. “Work this. Work that.” There’s no point in working as a man if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:36 PM
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Are you clinically insane? It’s been proven that men aged 20 to 50 find women in their early 20s the most physically attractive: https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10?amp Any sane man would rather have the younger years than the older ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:26 PM
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Point 1 means that women who have casual sex love it so much that they don’t care. Point 2 is ignoring that most casual sex is situation-ship/FWB/casual dating rather than ONS. Furthermore, how many ONSs does it take to realize this? It’s not in the double digits. Point 3 is gaslighting. “Useless fuckboys” are the most successful and highest quality men alive. They’re the worthiest of sex, evident by the fact that they’re having the most sex. If they’re “low quality” then what the fuck are the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:30 PM
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It’s certainly not easy as an average man. How is this not conceding RP? If all men maximize looks and game and status, it’s all going to cancel out and men of average genetics will still be average, and have a hard time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:42 PM
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How were you able to get all that sex?
/r/seduction15/04/22 09:28 PM
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4% must be average, not followers of rule 1 and 2.
/r/seduction07/04/22 09:56 AM
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What specific ages would you categorize as “the only time your life where you can experience it.” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:10 AM
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Ridiculous just world fallacy. Look at college frats: On top of all the sex they have a higher GPA than the average college student.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:07 AM
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Yeah but I'm not gonna get that energy from paying a fucking hooker.
/r/seduction02/04/22 12:42 AM
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You’re right. I’ve been masking my real problem which is that I’m severely depressed and nihilistic and purposeless and I’ve shifted all my hope in life to sex. I’m done with this attitude and I’m going to take shrooms soon. I feel like the only thing that’s still dragging me down is the past, I hate that I didn’t lose my virginity at 16 or something. I hate that I’ll always be a late bloomer for life because I started late.
/r/seduction01/04/22 09:58 AM
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I don’t want to be a 25 year old virgin, there’s no way I would even be able to stay sane that long.
/r/seduction01/04/22 09:36 AM
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According to others it’s not looks. My main problem mentally is that I don’t meet or talk to enough girls.
/r/seduction01/04/22 09:28 AM
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is that it almost instantly took away all my anxieties about girls, relationships and such, THIS IS WHAT I NEED
/r/seduction01/04/22 09:27 AM
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I’d rather you be a successful virgin than a chick magnet loser. I don’t see what the point of “success” would be if it involves being a late virgin. When I think of my virginity or being an older virgin than I already am, I only think of being a completely worthless loser. I’m genuinely just not understanding what’s supposed to be worth more than sex, there’s nothing I want more. Money? Power? Worthless without sex. I’d rather be a chick magnet lowlife, at least that’s some slice of life instea…
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:52 AM
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I don’t want to lose it at 25, I want to lose it at 20.
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:11 AM
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How would you rate out of 10?
/r/seduction01/04/22 01:42 AM
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I want the validation of a girl wanting to have sex with me for her own sexual pleasure.
/r/seduction01/04/22 01:42 AM
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You fooled around a lot prior to that, so you still had sexual activity and validation. I’ve never even kissed.
/r/seduction01/04/22 01:08 AM
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Because my lack of fulfillment that comes from not having sex will be fulfilled.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:49 PM
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Pulling girls or pulling single moms?
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:48 PM
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How?
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:47 PM
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Fuck that
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:28 PM
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This is what I’m scared of
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:28 PM
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Fuck that
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:19 PM
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I’ve already read it.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:18 PM
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Thanks but most people are definitely sexually active before their 20s, no doubt about it.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:06 PM
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Fuck that dude, that’s not gonna be me.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:06 PM
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Already have.
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:22 PM
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This comment helped me, no matter what happened in the past the fact is that I’ll never be surrounded by as many young women with wet panties as I am now. Fortunately I still have 2 more years of college left, and I plan on going to med school after which will place me on a college campus for another 4 years. Unfortunately I only have 5 weeks left in this school year. Can’t go to a bar because I’m not 21 yet. I go to a different gym 6 times a week that’s not the school gym. Hard to join clubs at…
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:45 PM
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I have a hard time meeting women at college. I can sometimes make really small small talk in classes but it never escalates to the point of being able to ask for their contact info.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:20 PM
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Because I want sex more than anything else. Other experiences are pretty unfulfilling compared to losing my virginity.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:19 PM
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Maybe I’ll consider it after I bang 10s all the time for free.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:10 PM
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But female friends are good for building pre-selection and meeting more girls.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:08 PM
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As are many tragedies.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:06 PM
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It has nothing to do with being insecure about my sexual skills. I’ve never related to that insecurity, I feel like I’d already be a great partner. For me it’s about having missed out on those years.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:06 PM
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I already lift weights 6 times a week
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:03 PM
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Uh… that’s cause for fucking worry. You think I’m trying to go 5 more years without sex? Fuck that
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:02 PM
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Fuck that
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:01 PM
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I feel worthless for not being one of those people it’s easy for. I am the person who judges myself and others as pathetic :(
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:01 PM
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5’10, I’d personally rate my face a 5 but others tell me I’m a 7 (DM if you want to see). I’ve gotten small signals of interest before.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:00 PM
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The vast majority of people have sex in their teens without becoming teen parents. I wish I didn’t have to worry about losing my virginity years late, and I wish I already had the validation as a human being worthy of sex years ago. I hate sitting on the sidelines and missing out, I would be in a much healthier mental state if I lost my virginity years ago.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:56 PM
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Never having kissed a girl at 20 is not early…
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:54 PM
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I’m much worse than average, I have no female friends and I’m not talking to any girls.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:52 PM
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I go to the gym 6 times a week, that’s about it. I have a hard time meeting girls.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:51 PM
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Can you point me to the best resources?
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:48 PM
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That’s my biggest struggle.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:44 PM
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Like it’ll always be a performance instead of second nature. And feeling like a significant chunk of my sexual prime was completely wasted.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:41 PM
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I don’t want to be in the loser half.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:32 PM
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I’m not a landwhale or deformed but I think you’re heavily underestimating how hard it is to get laid.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:32 PM
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Being average is not worse, I wish I lost my virginity back in high school.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:31 PM
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What should I start by doing?
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:28 PM
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I really don’t see how I can fulfill myself outside of sex and women. I’m horny as hell and mentally suffer so much from being a virgin. I also don’t see how my worth isn’t tied to whether I come into contact with vagina or not, when evolutionarily and socially and personally that’s the pinnacle of success. I can hear this but I can’t seem to believe it.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:26 PM
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I feel like there’s a big difference between 19 and 20 or god forbid 21.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:12 PM
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So what if you are starting out later than others?! I feel like I’ve permanently missed out on many years.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:11 PM
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What good is there in being a man without women being involved? If I knew I would never have sex in my life I would have no reason to live at all.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:59 AM
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I feel like even if I change my mindset now and get laid there will still be something missing due to being a late bloomer.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:50 AM
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The average age of virginity loss is 17, I feel so pathetic to never even have kissed at 20. How late is late in your opinion?
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:49 AM
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I’m getting into good shape. What should I do to “take it easy.”
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:47 AM
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So what now then?
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:46 AM
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I’m not asking why I haven’t got laid yet. I’m asking if it’s too late for me to truly turn things around at my age. I feel doomed to permanent inadequacy.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:46 AM
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I’ve never asked a girl out.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:42 AM
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Fuck
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:35 AM
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Having lots of sex with attractive women without having to leverage money/“good personality”. Let’s not pretend to devalue that. Have you ever had sex with a so-called fuckboy?
/r/seduction07/03/22 08:09 PM
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The highly promiscuous ones like casual sex and thus would have no issue being pumped and dumped by a fuckboy. Clearly the ones complaining about having fucked fuckboys do not fall into this category. They’re just women of all types.
/r/seduction07/03/22 08:07 PM
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Do women love anyone more than they love fuckboys? Every man I’ve ever seen labeled a fuckboy is highly successful with women and living an amazing life.
/r/seduction07/03/22 04:22 AM
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