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Yeah, pretty much. It’s why half of marriages do not work or their husbands are absolutely miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:28 AM
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Women probably wouldn’t be so stressed if they didn’t actively hunt the same 20 dudes per 100 dudes. That’s my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:21 PM
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Yes, most men can’t have the woman they really want. 80% of men have to 100% compromise or be alone for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:06 PM
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Yes, absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:58 PM
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I don’t agree. Her friends exacerbate the issue. In the rare example, maybe she doesn’t care about height and wearing heels. If her friends care about height which is probably the case, she is ultimately going to care about height as well - especially if she is wearing heels with her friends and their SOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:09 PM
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Correct. For the top-tier men, they will put up with scrutiny. For any man that might be average, she will cave to the possible scrutiny and disengage with the average schmo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:17 PM
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There is more concentration on what her friends think on social media. That’s the difference. If she doesn’t think she will get comments like, “you go girl”, “you guys look amazing together, or “I’m so jealous!”, then she’s not going to give you the time of day. Her 50 point checklist becomes more like an 80 point checklist after you factor in what her friends think about a dude. This is why so many women chase the top 20% of men. Back in the day, you didn’t have that level of scrutiny. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:58 PM
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Probably not. If I was down on my luck, I’d consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:50 AM
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When lack of integrity and dishonesty are rewarded, how can anything change?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:00 PM
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You are right. Love is a strong word. She will tolerate tasting her best friend in him if he’s hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:05 PM
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So, it is true. Your scenarios A, B, and C are definitely not good options but they are still options nonetheless. There is an option D. D treats you well, respects boundaries, has decent moral compass, and is totally invisible in your scenario. D is boring. D is ok. D might get you a like or two on social media but A all of your friends do not approve. D is not exciting. Your friends don’t want option D or are jealous because you are dating D. So, you eliminate D from the dating pool from the j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:03 PM
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Obese women have definitely swiped left on my profile. It’s not like I have this harem of obese women running to be with me. Only thing wrong? Height! After that every green flag becomes a red flag and ultimately a swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:49 PM
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I definitely have sympathy for women that have been played but it’s difficult to maintain. Women make all of the rules for dating and have 100% the advantages of that superiority. You are a woman that has made the choice to disengage yourself from dating to not be hurt. I respect that. There are good men out there that didn’t make that choice and are just cast to the side because they don’t meet the genetic standards or the woman-imposed rules of dating. So, it’s very difficult to date in the 21…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:47 PM
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I could say 6 and go as high as 7 or 7.5.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:55 PM
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Too slim for an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:03 PM
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Too put together for an average dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:02 PM
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I think women use things like style and confidence as eliminating factors not inclusion factors. For example, you can be short dude that’s confident and dresses well, you are going home to an empty house. Tall, good looking dude wearing a ratty t-shirt, moping with his buddy over their 6th beer, he’s always got a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:01 PM
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This isn’t about admiration, it’s about loyalty. If the dude isn’t attractive hot enough she will absolutely shrug off an act of disloyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:36 PM
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Most men do not even get to that point for women to see any type of behavior that you are describing. She has eliminated that dude before he has uttered a word. When you have options, you can do that. When you have zero options, well let’s just say that’s the average man’s experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:36 PM
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No, not joking. Women will put up with it for a hot dude. Once the dude stops being hot and isn’t getting positive validation then she will kick him to the curb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:25 PM
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That was just an example of what an internal thought I was having concerning how someone I wouldn’t considered at all became an attractive option. You are saying that if a dude isn’t attractive to a woman, he’s not an option. I put up a counter to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:24 PM
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I’m not projecting men’s thoughts onto women at all. I definitely know women today that definitely think this way today. Caring about how their friends view their man and the amount of likes they get when they take pictures together is very important to the modern woman. If you are an average dude, you are pretty screwed in this environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:21 PM
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The type of cereal wasn’t the point🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:12 PM
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I’ve known women for at least 40 years. I’ve heard women say, “my man can get anybody he wants. Sure he cheats but that’s just him. It’s not the only time I caught him.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:11 PM
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I’ll use a basic example. I would much rather go into the grocery cereal aisle with a whole aisle of cereal than an aisle with bare shelves. I might not like Cap’n Crunch or All-Bran but it’s on the shelf and I have the choice of putting it in my cart. I have the option to not choose to. Most men walk down the proverbial cereal aisle and there are zero options, nothing on the shelf. A woman will not even try the All-Bran where a dude will put into the cart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:30 PM
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My internal discussion is not like that at all. If I see a woman that’s heavier that I would normally date, I may say something to myself like this: “She’s larger that I would normally be interested in but I like what she’s wearing and how she’s wearing it. I can see us together.” With women: “He’s short, absolutely not.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:26 PM
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That’s a pretty wide description of an average dude. Definitely, the top-tier guys are in your description of average but also the dudes with c-cups and a couple of stomachs are also in your description as well. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:23 PM
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That dude is absolutely an option. An option that she refuses to recognize doesn’t make it any less of an option. She has just opted to not find anything attractive about a man who is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:04 PM
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Not sure about that. Women love disloyal men. If that dude cheats, she will complain about it, but secretly she’s cool with it. That means her man is desired by other women and those women are jealous of her for being with him. The amount of crap she will put up with him is directly proportional to how much his perceived hotness is. There is nothing that will dry up a lady that a man she likes that other women do not find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:34 PM
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I still believe that women do not know what the average guys look like. I cringe when a woman describes a man as average because 9 times out of 10 he’s upper tier. Any woman I have known, worked with, friends with etc… were never involuntarily single. It was always their choice. There was always some guy in the background somewhere that she wasn’t interested in but he was definitely interested in her. Women competing for the top 10 is always going to be super competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:07 PM
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Nothing really here to debate. Women make all of the rules for dating. A dude can go a decade before a woman will talk or go on one date with him just to have her ghost him for some other dude that she perceives as a better option. Women have tons of options while most guys really have ZERO options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:24 AM
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She’s not the only one. She has three close friends that are exactly the same way. That’s why I’m her dirty little cave troll and not her public boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:48 PM
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My FB has confirmed a lot of my red pilled opinions. She just told me last night that I can work out all I want. In the end it won’t matter to women because I’m not 6’ tall. “If you aren’t 6’ tall it gets me wondering what else is wrong with you?” Exact quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:27 PM
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Height and face are the only things that matter to older women. Take it from a dude in his fifties. You can put in all of the work you want in your twenties and thirties, you can still come out as a tired, undesirable old man that zero women will acknowledge. Women do not reward hard work, they reward height and face.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:01 PM
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This is pretty false. You can absolutely find abusive men in higher socioeconomic ladders. Case in point, my FB still thirsts for the abusive man that left her. He does very well for himself and the 3 failed marriages he had was a “hidden” red flag that she never saw that he disclosed week 1. They were together three years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:01 AM
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As someone who has been in a sexless boring marriage, LoB is kind of right. On the flip side of that, the thought of having sex with my ex-wife during our marriage inspired dried heaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:24 PM
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With pussyflation, there are zero women uggos. You would need additional groupings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:28 AM
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Hobbies, speed dating, book clubs, etc… are such a waste of time for the average dude. My FB tells me that the average dude shouldn’t even waste his time. She wants the whole package. This is why I’m not the boyfriend but the FB that gives the big O
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:59 PM
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Until she divorces you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:05 PM
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The probability of a dude getting into a relationship is pretty low. My FB is actively searching for a dude. She leaves every date analyzing every syllable said and action taken. With that type of scrutiny it really is a numbers game for dudes to try and try. Basically a binomial distribution skewed heavily to the right. However, after every one of these dates, she comes to my house to get her rocks off. So, I guess the universe is in balance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:58 AM
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I’ve dated in the last ten years. It sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:28 PM
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Hoping for sex and being entitled for sex are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:00 AM
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I never said the zombie or me was entitled for sex because of the date being paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:27 AM
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I don’t mind paying for dates. I have a FB. She goes on dates with some 6’ zombie, he pays for the date, gets a kiss on the cheek, and then comes to my place afterward to squirt. So, I guess it’s all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:02 PM
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Women make all of the rules for dating. All of them. So, whatever decision they make is all on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:58 AM
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So if I decide to take up crossstitching. I should have 15 different templates and the supplies for a never ending circle of fun hobby time. Ok. That really seems reasonable🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:15 PM
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And thank you for teaching me that I should have 15 projects, with all of the items and equipment around my house, that will never get completed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:09 PM
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I’m just a dude who starts something, I finish it. It’s definitely not the sexiest mindset but that’s how I work. Shit gets done and I move onto the next thing. I usually don’t have two projects going on at the same time. I’m not doing yard work and painting a room in my house, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:43 PM
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If you have the hobby of jigsaw puzzles, you should have the intention of completing a few instead of having 20 different puzzles started that haven’t been completed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:34 PM
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A friend of mine never completes any projects. Ever! He’s essentially a hoarder of hobbies and stuff. He’s married, which to me is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:29 PM
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I think women view that as the guy is doing stuff. They may have 10 projects going on that they might never finish but they are doing stuff. Where a dude plans something, executes the plan, finishes the project, is pretty boring to women. They can’t brag to other women because there is just the one thing and there is a completion process. Versus, “my man is doing this, and this, and this, and this, etc…”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:59 PM
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That’s true. No woman is going to let go the real total catch. It’s a placating sympathy to make some mid dude feel better about himself. He’s probably her simp when platitudes are flying around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:43 PM
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There is some truth to this. Some. Woman screws a bad boy, narcissistic, abuser. He cheats on her and gives her a couple STDs. She will go on social media spewing, “there are no good men left. Why can’t I find a good man. Don’t mess with a Gemini, blah blah, blah.” So she lumps all men with this dude mind fucks her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:58 AM
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Women make all of the rules for dating, so you just have to play the game. At a certain point you just have to hope that you are still playing and you have been thrown out in a technicality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:18 AM
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The friend zone exists and once you are there, you are there eternally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:35 AM
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If they are honest with themselves they will be just fine with it. Abusers come in different flavors. The women abused by the narcissistic gaslighter don’t end up in shelters. They will consistently choose the same type of men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:54 PM
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As a man in my fifties, it absolutely is. You would be surprised how little women’s taste in men change from 16 to 46.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:54 PM
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For now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:29 PM
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No, you guys should stop dating the dudes with multiple ex-wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:22 PM
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It’s also women over 30 as well. I love how sometimes this sub thinks that women thirsting for the abuser, bad boy stops at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:19 PM
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Average men do struggle, especially in their 40s and 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:30 PM
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Women can conceptualize the male perspective. They just don’t care to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:31 AM
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An incentive for people to fight in wars is if you are deployed and are in combat then you do not pay any federal taxes for the rest of your life. If
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:13 AM
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When I think of simping it’s all of this put together: A guy tries to win the affection of a woman by taking her out on dates, buying little presents, celebrating her birthday, etc… The guy becomes the “boyfriend” without boyfriend benefits. Meanwhile, the girl is screwing some asshole that abuses her and treats her like shit. In the end, the girl is never going to let the simp be the actual boyfriend and leads the dude on because she enjoys that type of attention that her abuser will never give…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:36 PM
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Women make all of the rules for dating. So, the average guy is screwed and really do not have a choice if they are alone or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:29 PM
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I agree with that but it’s still kind of messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:26 AM
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I’m not complaining but to me it’s kind of messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:25 AM
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I agree with that. I’m probably going to leave my assets to a stripper when I die🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:24 PM
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I use the roads. I use the infrastructure. I use water and sewer. What I don’t use is some high school that looks like a college campus and the United States has some of the worst education on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:50 PM
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I get all of the points but I pay $20000 per year on school taxes because of both of my homes. It’s like I’m paying child support for kids that aren’t even mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:48 PM
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I agree with what you are saying. Absolutely. OK, reduce my taxes by one third and increase the families with children by one third. A family with children are definitely going to use those services way more than I am. I just think in my neighborhood it’s crazy that I’m paying the same amount of school tax as a family of four. So, I get penalized for not having children from a federal tax level and on a state and local level I’m paying for everyone else’s children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:40 PM
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I don’t necessarily agree with OP. Women have never chosen me to have children with, so why am I paying school taxes? I do believe that either people like me that have zero children should either pay reduced education taxes or none altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:20 AM
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Correct. I also don’t think you should join pickleball and it be all couples and you. That kind of defeats the purpose of going out in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:33 AM
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Unfortunately, yes. When you really start hearing details about how much of a narcissist a dude is and she still screws him like a king it’s like what fucking universe am I living in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:03 AM
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That was my experience and I eventually got paired with the dance instructor with a rock on her ring finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:36 PM
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Or the issue is that women are just genuinely bad at picking nice, decent men. I’m 100% sure there were signs before you figured out that some dude was terrible. When you peel back the onion it’s so obvious that this dude is shit you have to start thinking that women must be oblivious to human interaction. Then to add insult to injury after dealing with the “nice guy” a woman will rationalize and just start picking the most attractive man she can get because why go on quality any more, if it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:09 PM
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The Simp! The simp is a tragic story. A simp is a dude that has been friendzoned, keeps doing things for a woman that a boyfriend would do without the reciprocity that comes with being a boyfriend. Basically, he is the boyfriend without the boyfriend benefits. He will go home pound his hand thinking about her. The worst thing is that she knows this, never tells him straight up, and keeps the door open (only in his mind). The simp will take her antique shopping, going to the movies, watching the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:19 PM
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Agreed with what you said but what women say and do are two vastly different things. Women will throw all of that therapy out the window for 6’ Chad. Women will absolutely do this. She will put up with the selfish sexual habits of Chad, walk around sexually and psychologically frustrated, and he will make her believe that the problem is her. He will say he will go to therapy and he won’t. His therapy sessions are banging other women behind her back and she will put up with this for years. The av…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:03 PM
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I don’t care. Most dudes look like living abortions and there are times I wished that my parents would’ve aborted my ass. There are also times I wished my parents were nonexistent and I was raised by TV and pedophiles. Especially at this time of year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:51 AM
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I would rather have one of the bullet points be my problem. Those are just low hanging fruit that any man who is mature and has some semblance of independence should be able to do. The not knowing, never knowing, why my OLD inbox is always empty is the worst part. I would rather have a woman text me and say, “you are just straight up unattractive and your 2d profile doesn’t excite me to meet you in 3d.” would be preferable. I can assume that but unfortunately it could a myriad of characteristics…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:52 PM
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Typical insult to boost your deflated ego. You thought making a dating profile that would attract women would satiate the void left by not receiving any attention from women. When you realized that it doesn’t and won’t, you came to Reddit for more attention. Catfishing creates more of a problem for women and you. Work on yourself, try to be a better human being, and maybe you can leave mommy’s basement with a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:52 PM
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I don’t ever believe that any of the top 20% of men are on Reddit providing advice. This isn’t even advice this is complaining. Now, I believe you took an attractive man’s pictures and are catfishing women. You should stop immediately. It just makes it worse for the rest of men who are legitimately trying to get some woman to show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:01 AM
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They aren’t and you are right. These guys that women think are protectors just because they are tall are some of the weakest men I’ve ever known.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:57 AM
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Do all those bullet points, still walking around single. Yeah, life sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:32 AM
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I think that’s a part of what OP is asking. If I’m a dude, I don’t know you, attracted to you, where/how do I introduce myself to get to know you and spark attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:09 AM
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Self-improvement doesn’t matter at all for men. Men have to do self improvement for self improvement’s sake. If you are doing it for validation, it will never come to realization. Men do not get compliments at all. Attractive men get validation all of the time from women and can be the most lecherous people on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:37 PM
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I think you missed the point. You are asking relationship type questions that a woman would ask. You need to flip that script. Ask a question that he wouldn’t expect and watch his response. This is a 20% listening, 80% watching his response. If he fumbles, he’s dirt. It’s tough to ask somebody questions but you are probably wanting to date men that have experience with relationships, that you are attracted to, and is an all around decent person. The last part is the problem and that dude has had…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:27 PM
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That’s not true either. I would take them both to the same place. I feel a date should be a good time and not a job interview. Also, I’m not saying that women aren’t having trouble getting into a loving relationship. I’m saying it’s their choice. It’s been their choice. Women have total control of the situation. Men have almost zero control over that. The guys that do have some control are the dudes that most women are thirsting after including the conventionally unattractive women. That’s why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:34 PM
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Wow! First, if women are judging men by their professions, no wonder I’m screwed. I’m a software engineer, there are probably all kinds of negative geeky connotations that arise from that. So, you are dating men and probably asking the same canned questions that every other woman is asking him. Do you think that the abuser has crafted those answers over the years to give women what they really want to hear? Evil lives in the cracks of the concrete. It’s the in between. It’s the shady areas of so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:21 PM
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That’s not true at all. I think about that subgroup all of the time! Why? I don’t think they exist. I do believe that women are single not because they can’t find a man that wants to be in a relationship with them. I think they are choosing to be single because they are choosing men that the majority of women want to be in a relationship with. There is a huge difference. I think the woman who can’t get into a relationship with a dude is a unicorn. They are mythical creatures that do not exist. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:43 PM
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You are not wrong but you’re not right either. Personally, I’m not jealous of that man because of his “body count.” I’m jealous of that type of man because he’s never single and if he is single it’s because of his choice. Meanwhile, I’m just invisible to women, especially on OLD. Most of that comes from the absolute fact that women my age are engaged on society less, for whatever the reason. It’s abundantly clear that you do not care about any dude that’s lonely. Really, you don’t have any const…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:15 PM
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I agree that women do not have to justify their decisions, especially to me. I think that most women don’t have a clue on how to attract a man that won’t treat them like shit. This myth that the WoR try to tell time and time again that a dude was wholesome and wonderful in the beginning and he wasn’t a POS is just false. Most women fail or refuse to see the signs because of the positive reinforcement they get on IG. Meanwhile, the guy with high emotional intelligence, looking for a relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:03 PM
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The women of Reddit state this but I’ve never seen it. Somehow Chad and the bad boy have their shit together and WoR justify their decisions to share these men. I have difficulty believing this since Chad and the bad boy are pumping and dumping through the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:55 AM
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I wouldn’t say that women are denied the gift of failure. I would say that women fail she can ALWAYS find a man to help lessen the sting of failure. When a dude fails, more than likely he will fail alone. Women will pick up on that failure and stay the fuck away. Most men have this experience, not all, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:52 AM
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Who is Pete Davidson?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:30 AM
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I don’t agree with everything you have posted. It is counterproductive to debate and argue about dating. Women have made 100% of the rules and have created scarcity where there none exists. No woman is going to change their multiple evaluations of who they date, their friends and public approval importance, or have any serious conversations about the skewness of dating apps because women are 100% totally in the drivers seat. It is counterproductive, demoralizing, and just downright depressing. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:56 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:28 AM
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This is an honest list. I can work with honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:02 AM
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And yet women will still date that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:59 AM
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Let me continue. Women celebrate the right for women to choose their partners. Great, fine, I’m good. Women also need to recognize that’s a double-edged sword. If women are going to post comments on FB or IG, “like you guys are so cute together❤️”, “does he have a brother?”, “you are so lucky”, for a pic of a woman with a PoS then women are rewarding and reinforcing these tragic decisions. On that flip side of that, I don’t think these guys should be allowed to date. If you have a criminal histo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:29 PM
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There is that mindset of the “ho phase” where women date around and only settle down when the bad boy has reached a level of abuse that she doesn’t want to take anymore. This is a young man’s hangup. Personally, I don’t give a shit about any of that. In my fifties, that kind of dating history should be expected. What baffles the hell out of me is that women in their fifties are still choosing these trashy, convicted felons. These women post on FB or IG that they found their man. I look at the du…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:07 PM
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The piety of the women of Reddit is staggering
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:38 PM
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Or there are just genuine nice guys out there trying to meet with women with nothing in return obeying the dating rules that women 100% developed. Meanwhile; the woman the nice guy could be dating is with a felon with multiple priors and wondering why he won’t commit knowing that he has 5 girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:37 PM
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We may overestimate but what you aren’t denying is that nice guys do finish last sometimes. Guys don’t focus on finding other good women because it’s known that how good a person is makes zero difference in matters of the heart. So, why chase an attribute, that you may find, but won’t be reciprocated because you aren’t tainted enough or you don’t have enough prison tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:57 PM
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Curious, you friendzoned them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:44 AM
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When people say that the word has lost its meaning, they just don’t care about your feelings around the word and your experiences with it. “Guys use loneliness as code for “I want pussy”” Yeah probably I don’t though. I’d be fine with a coffee meetup just to talk; however, I think I need to start paying women to be at the same table as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:49 AM
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I know in my area it’s pretty screwed. I saw tons of single men everywhere I went last weekend. They were everywhere. I saw women paired up but as far as a group of women or a couple of women that was nonexistent. I see that just about every weekend. Younger women, absolutely, they are out in droves. Older women, I don’t know where they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:06 AM
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Just because you don’t know anyone my age that is struggling, doesn’t mean that men aren’t struggling. I came to Reddit 2 or 3 years ago to find out why I’m struggling and I got my answer. I was already 4 to 5 years in being single. I know dudes my age that are single and they’ve been longer than I have. I’m sure if you asked them they would say that dating is very difficult. Could be the demographics? I also know dudes that are married and they don’t know any single women. I was married for a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:57 AM
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I definitely did not have any success with dancing or book clubs. Everywhere I go in this area, it’s just a bunch of dudes or couples. This weekend alone, I probably saw two to three hundred single dudes over the 10 or twelve places I went. I saw couples. I did not see a group of women out anywhere and I had meals at a couple of places. I don’t go to crappy places. All I’m thinking the entire time, “where are the women?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:44 AM
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No woman wants to a date a dude that their friends don’t find attractive as well. I was actually surprised by that after my divorce. As a dude, IDGAF what my friends think. Women really do not change in that regard whether they are 26 or 66, it’s still the same. As a dude, you have to be approved by her social circle. If one doesn’t find you attractive, she will eventually sour on you. That’s why it’s so difficult for the average guy to get a date. The myth that guys that struggle to get dates a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:29 AM
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I’m a fifty year old man. I have had one date in seven years. So, the belief that dating becomes easier as you age is a misconception. Guys seem to believe in the dream/myth that if you are struggling in your 20s and 30s you can just wait it out and dating gets easier in your 40s and 50s. I can tell you that in actuality, that it was way easier in my twenties. Just by the number of available women, it was way easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:21 AM
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You are right. Women are the ruling class when it comes to dating. If the shoe were on the other foot, you would think much differently. TBH, if the shoe were on the other foot, women would do a much better job helping each other out. The top 10 or 20 percent of dudes that are dating love the fact that 80% of the men struggle. It just makes them look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:43 PM
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Wait a minute. I’m not focused on achievements at all. I know that’s a waste of time. Women don’t care about that at all. There are two things that women care about likes on Instagram and their checklist. Unless you have fame AND fortune, they don’t care about achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:58 AM
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I would agree with you but dependent on the age distribution. Any dude single over the age of forty is so screwed. The population of single women diminishes greatly or they just don’t want the average dude because of what they have achieved in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:33 AM
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So, I can be healthy and alone. I’ll live through my 80’s and 90’s with zero dating life. That sounds great!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:53 AM
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You can’t be serious, right? So, the average man’s issue this entire time is not following the food pyramid. Myplate.gov has all the answers to my dating questions. I only had one serving of 🍎 and vegetables instead of three to five, Stacy turned me down🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:06 AM
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Take casual sex out of the equation for a moment. Men are so disadvantaged to even being able to arrange a coffee date. The average man is so screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:17 AM
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I’m not trying to be defeatist at all. To your point, the ballroom dancing is not a singles night. It’s a night where women leave their husbands at home or their husbands come along because they are tired of Netflix and Chill. For a single man it’s a waste of time. It’s also awkward because as a dude trying to learn you end up dancing with the instructor. I don’t care about that but I’m not going on Dancing with the Stars. There’s zero opportunities to meet a woman. Book clubs are great if you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:05 AM
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Thank you for that. What I’ve found is that single women in their fifties do not do these things. Sure, there are women at book clubs that are more than willing to talk about a common book but they are in their twenties and thirties. Ballroom dancing is not done by single women but women who are married and have brought their husbands after they’ve been married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:54 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:24 AM
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This is why if a man is dated one woman in a circle of women friends, he will end up sleeping with every single last one of them. Getting over that first hurdle of twelve checklists is the hard part. Once a guy does that there is no end in the amount of attention he will receive from the circle whether it’s from his girlfriend, the frenemy behind the Waffle House, or the seasonal BJ from her best friend in the best friends house. The sky’s the limit once you have acceptance. Before every woman s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:13 PM
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Why would you know any women that are bitter? Women get to have affection or relationships in any capacity they want. I’m really not sure about the 80/20 rule. Over this weekend, I went to about 10 different venues, and there are single men in droves. Whether or not any women believe or care about this but there are a population of men that are being discarded. It’s personally exhausting the time, effort, self-care, and therapy to keep “putting yourself out there.” It’s a part time job of thirty…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:24 PM
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I’m really trying to understand but the amount of rage bait that is produced is overwhelming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:10 PM
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I’m out every weekend. The possibility is there and it has happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:54 PM
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This was definitely a pain point in my previous marriage. When we met, she absolutely knew that fitness was important to me. I wasn’t a gym rat by any stretch of the imagination, maybe five hours per week. Over our marriage we argued about it consistently. I went a couple of years without doing anything trying to appease her and it almost killed me. I put on an extra 80 lbs because of it. I had so much weight on my heart that I couldn’t get an erection. I lost the weight when she left me. Never …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:12 PM
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I have no problem with women having high standards. I have a problem with women having high standards with regards to immutable traits. Have you ever wanted to date a woman, got rejected, saw who she ultimately chose to end up with, sized yourself up with her chosen dude, and bested him on every characteristic except for one immutable trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:51 AM
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I don’t think it’s scared. I really don’t. Think about it this way. She tries her little two second gaze on some dude, he doesn’t pick up on it, and he leaves. No big deal to her, right? Another guy WILL absolutely with 100% certainty come along. She knows this and it’s a fact. It’s just as factual as 2 + 2 = 4. Now, if a dude tries that same logic and doesn’t approach anyone with maximum effort and perfection, he may go months and years without meeting any women. That’s the difference. That’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:43 AM
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I believe that the rich, social circle advice that women gives serves one purpose. It fills a void that a woman thinks she wants and doesn’t have today. Women say that they want men to have a lot of friends, hobbies, and interests. This is really a double-edged sword. If you start letting her into your circle too early, she’ll leave you for one of your friends. Also, if you start dating a woman there is absolutely zero chance that she’s going to be cool with you doing your woodworking hobby five…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:30 AM
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I realize that my experiences are by no means statistical proof. I would love to see some actual statistical evidence that the average dude is dating. Just last night, I’m out it’s Saturday night. This place I went to has a dance floor. They had a gift wrapping contest, egg nog slushies, Christmas music going, food specials. They did their own fruit cake ice cream, which was absolutely delicious. You get the point, festive. This place was an absolute sausage fest. They had to be 80 average dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:53 AM
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I can’t turn asshole at this stage in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:12 AM
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Women don’t read any red pill shit. Women on Reddit do. Women are too busy dating on easy street to read red pill dating crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:03 AM
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Boomer here. I wished my parents taught me how to date but they didnt. Women didn’t choose me to have children with so I couldn’t pass on the knowledge to my children of the chunky shit stew that is dating. So, don’t blame me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:02 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:57 AM
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I’m definitely guilty for saying this. I would much rather go to the car dealership looking at hundreds or thousands of broken cars to find the one gem on the lot than showing up the day of the purchase and finding zero cars on the lot day after day, month after month, and year after year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:56 AM
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I respect what you posted but it’s obvious that you have no concept of what you are talking about. The average man struggles to get dates is a minor understatement, they get zero dates and OLD is the majority of the blame for it. Women have no idea what the average man looks like. I’ve yet to hear an actual description of from a woman what the average man looks like, that’s actually accurate. I would bet one of my properties that dude you think is average is really an 8 or 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:53 AM
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There is no adapting when women have made all of the rules of dating based on immutable characteristics like height. Women make all of the rules for dating, marriage, having children, and yet they still miss the mark in large numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:47 AM
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This is a good post but it’s not obvious and has never been obvious. That’s why there are these billion dollar businesses called dating sites for people to meet. If women were staring for 2 seconds, looking away and smiling again, there are a host of reasons for this and these companies have taken advantage of it. Predetermined rom-com logic doesn’t work in real life. The rom-com actor is just playing a part. I wish women truly understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:42 AM
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Wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:37 AM
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Somehow in the back of mind I’m thinking that American women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:35 AM
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No, it’s not male confidence. It’s female laziness. Don’t confuse the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:25 AM
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I’m not raping anyone. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:18 AM
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At least some country is recognizing how difficult dating is for men and doing something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:18 AM
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That’s your boy Chad. Women will meet Chad in the far recesses of some town so the wife, friends, pedopriests don’t see that they are with another woman. So, behind the Waffle House gets a lot of action. She gets her Chad, Chad gets his rocks off, Chad’s wife gets an STD and her marriage goes further down the tubes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:52 AM
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Cold approaching would work in the 80s and 90s. Today OLD has destroyed cold approaching for men. Why would a woman want to talk to a random stranger when she can sit home in her grannie panties and order up any dude she wants and instacart will deliver that dude. Fuck em, I approach if I actually see one my age. IDGAF if they are annoyed or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:45 AM
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Are you not getting the concept of positive reinforcement? If these dudes that constantly treat women like crap, never single, do not have any consequences for their actions, they will think that this is what women want and never, ever treat women better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:32 AM
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I’ve dated and been married. I’ve never transferred previous relationship angst onto a woman that never did that to me in the first place. She got a clean slate and I never gave a shit what she did to some other dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:12 AM
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Women that chase the best dudes on OLD, get pumped and dumped (or worse), and transfers that anger onto average dudes really gets under my skin. I’ve never mistreated a woman. Now, I’ve been dumped because the women that I’ve dated and been married to thought they could do better. They went on their merry way and were pretty much forgotten by me. There is no transference from me stating that all women do this as women seem to do. That’s what burns me up. I’m lumped into the same pile with these …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:09 AM
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There’s this trope on Reddit that women have given the average dude a chance only to be treated like crap. I don’t buy that. I still don’t think that women on Reddit know who the average man is. I hate using scaling but for example, the average dude that women have given a chance to are really in the 7 or 8 range, instead of a dude that would be considered a 5. I do believe that 7 or 8 dude would throw some women around because they constantly get rewarded by women by never being single(only by …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:00 AM
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You can’t be serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:06 AM
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Nobody is swiping left on my profile in Linkedin. After they look at my resume they DGAF if my pic is blurry or my picture doesn’t capture the essence of my EQ, they are reaching out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:03 AM
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You must be talking about the top 20 that gets dates. I’m like what the F is LOB talking about now. I get it now you aren’t referring to the lower 80. Got it understand
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:48 AM
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For women: stop banging Chad, get pumped and dumped, and overlay that anger onto the average dude. The average dude would love to treat you like a human being but your angst is misplaced due to constantly chasing Chad around the Waffle House dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:55 AM
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Well, yes and maybe. I went searching for videos of women swiping on dudes on OLD in real time. Yes, this was an actual comment from a video that had 6 or 7 20somethings using OLD IRT, and she did swipe left. There were legitimate criticisms like the dude that only had half his face in most of the pics and the classic every photo is a group photo. To me, these women were weren’t exactly beautiful. This is what piqued my interest in the video. They are probably 5 or 6, max. These chicks were swip…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:49 AM
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She could absolutely choose better when choosing to date. Swiping left on a dude because 5/6 photos are perfect but one is blurry so she swipes left is ridiculous and has no bearing on dating a man. Choose a photographer if you want to have a photo shoot. Provide some latitude if you are looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:05 AM
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You could’ve just left it with the title. I absolutely agree. It’s your fault that I’m not happy and it’s absolutely my fault that you aren’t happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:02 AM
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Women are selective but on the absolute wrong things. This is why they get pumped and dumped and back on OLD every few months. for example, “I liked 5/6 of your photos but photo 4 should’ve been your first so I swiped left.” Another example, “Your first picture was the best, showed off who you are, but I swiped left because your bio didn’t convey the essence of who you are in 25 characters.” Some of the comments I’ve read on Reddit have no weight in a dating scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:59 AM
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If men are swiping right on every woman it’s out of frustration from not getting any matches/dates. I don’t swipe right on every woman, read bios, responded with fun 1st messages. Result - zero dates and wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:53 AM
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😒
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:49 AM
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I’ve never heard that trans men get a lot of pussy. Is that opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:45 AM
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😒
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:40 AM
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Great comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:28 AM
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I’m sure that I’m not on Diddy’s radar?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:06 PM
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Depends on what your definition of crazy is. The hot/cray chick that love bombs, drops the I love you after 24 hours, and wants to move in with you is too much. If she has a stable job, has some of her shit together but has some idiosyncrasies and screws like a pornstar, I could put up with that for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:33 AM
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That’s a little dramatic don’t you think? I can believe that in certain less probabilistic situations you may get touched without consent. It isn’t happening every day and the guys that like you on OLD a very small, negligible percentage of them are lecherous. This whole thing about women getting groped all of the time by men and transferred onto men like me who have been constantly respectable all of my life is totally unfair. FYI, I will take being groped without my consent over being treated …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:26 AM
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Isn’t that the point? I’m a little bitter, yes. I’m lonely too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:19 AM
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I really do not see how women could be the most unhappy.Everyday is a wonderful assortment of 100s and 1000s of suitors vying for her attention If they can’t get Chad to leave his wife and 3 kids for her, then she is probably sexually lackluster. Meanwhile, back at the Hall of the Average Man on OLD. One match per year and no date or conversation is the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:23 AM
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Men are expected to show this through photographs. This is an unreal expectation. Guys are not snapping photos every day. The main advice on dating apps are no selfies, get a friend to take pictures for you. My friends take worse photos than I do. Guys are expected to have an above average profile while taking 3 pictures per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:11 AM
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I don’t like every profile. OLD still sucks! Additionally, Chad doesn’t give a shit about the average guy’s experience. Really, Chad and especially married Chads are the problem. Getting pumped and dumped by Chad is what women choose to do. Women make 100% of the rules for dating, relationships, marriage, and children. So, she sours on all men except Chad. So, she will take her frustration out on the lower 80% because that’s easy. She will never leave Chad out in the cold, thus creating a never …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:04 AM
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Yeah, agreed. Consistency is a problem. Chad has one criteria and it’s usually chewing with his mouth closed or not wear a diaper while out on dates. The average guys have multiple 20 to 30 point checklists that have been idealized from her and her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:03 AM
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If you are in the seemingly endless cycle of being pumped and dumped, yes, it does. There is obviously something going on with 20% that you are choosing if that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:59 AM
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The wrong men, not all men. Certainly, not me. Of course, that has never gotten me anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:30 PM
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I think you misunderstand. I talk to women, if they are around my age. I don’t try to be their friend. That gets you nowhere. I make my intentions known upfront. If she doesn’t feel the same, I get out of her life that quickly. That friends first, then lovers trope is mainly for the movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:29 PM
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That is simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:09 PM
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I don’t think it’s a bad thing. I have a lot of women friends. Unrequited attraction is a pretty terrible thing to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:09 PM
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I say that. I don’t know how many times in my life women have denied my advances to only date the violent, narcissistic dude with an arrest record and multiple warrants for his arrest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:04 PM
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That works rarely for the average dude, almost never. That gets you friendzoned or worse you’ll end up being the simp while she is either screwing or thirsting over Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:01 PM
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Every woman looks great in yoga pants. There is absolutely no male equivalent to women’s yoga pants. All a woman needs to do is slap on a sweater and yoga pants and instantly she’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:37 PM
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I would believe that. I can see that having a nonlinear relationship due to the amount of choice a woman has in populated demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:25 PM
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For me it’s not about blaming. It just doesn’t make any sense to me at all. Women are absolutely choosing these men that were obviously looking for a mommy. It just doesn’t ring true to me that we’re no warning signs that a dude is looking to be taken care of and not reciprocate that level of sympathy and care. Why do women use every brain cell to eliminate the lower 85% of men and yet not use that same level of scrutiny with the upper 15% of men? It’s baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:15 AM
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“Don’t approach if I’m somewhere I’m breathing.” That one for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:00 PM
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That’s a good point. Again, you have to pull teeth. She know OLD will provide her perfect dude and she can put in even less effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:59 PM
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It’s difficult at my age to try to court women that do not go out and mingle with society. At my age, seeing a 50 year old woman in IRL is pretty rare. Second, OLD has taken that courting process away. Why would a woman entertain a conversation with me when she can disregard me, go home, order her perfect dude on OLD, and be dating him the next day? Women for some reason refuse to answer this question. Absolutely refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:56 PM
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Men do desire companionship and a relationship. That’s the piece that’s missing from OP’s post. Since 80% of men are invisible to women, they marry the first one that gives attention even if she isn’t quite the one he wants. In general, men date down while women date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:46 PM
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Solution to most of your complaints, pick better! If your husband doesn’t do any chores or insignificant chores then you should’ve known that. Women make 100% of the rules for dating. So, if you are losing, it’s 100% your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:11 PM
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That’s where I’m at. Where does my morality lie? Do I get a couple of tattoos, a 70’s muscle car, sell drugs, buy a guitar, and become violent? I just don’t have the propensity for violence or malevolence. On the other hand, there are so many women pining for that dude, I wouldn’t have enough time to think about morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:37 PM
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No, my ex wife cheated on me. Every day during the marriage, I was working on trying to support and foster a healthy relationship with my ex-wife. Every day she did everything she could to tear it down. Four months into our separation she wanted to come back to me. I said no. Been single ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:17 PM
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I’m looking for a long term relationship that possibly lead to marriage. I’m in my fifties, so I’m looking for a partner that is my equal. Basically, we both lift each other with our strengths and learn from each others weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:21 AM
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😒 You’ll be hunting Chad next week
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:05 AM
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Do women really want that? Really? Experience states otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:09 PM
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You absolutely misunderstand. I don’t want to separate myself from the bad boys. Why would I want that? The capacity to treat another person like shit is not in my character, so I don’t have women crawling all over me. I wished that I could shut down the empathetic and sympathetic parts of my brain but I can’t. There is a lot of jealousy from me on how successful these guys are with women. A woman will tell me to go to therapy with my problems. Bad boy with violence and criminal issues, that sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:19 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:46 PM
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Average dudes get zero matches. That’s the average for dudes, zero. OLD doesn’t provide any access to anybody else when you match with no one. Women only give the top-tier men multiple chances. The average guy doesn’t get any chance. Do you understand what zero means? Zero doesn’t mean 1-2 matches per week. Zero means no messages, no matches, and certainly no dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:42 PM
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You know you are ugly when a woman works into a conversation that she has a boyfriend within the second or third sentence. Me: “excuse me, sorry to reach over you, but I would like to get my drink.” Them: “Sorry, my boyfriend will be back in a minute.” Didn’t ask and “boyfriend” never shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:20 PM
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Those men that are married now did not have to go through the multiple obstacles of OLD. They met the future wives at college or through a social circle when they were younger. This does not work for an older man. OLD has definitely made life way more difficult for an older, average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:00 PM
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You are missing the most important point. Society treats men differently. Even if you mitigate your numbered items, women in particular don’t and will not care because you are below average. You are giving advice that women believe is the problem. The average guy doesn’t sit in IG or play the Xbox for 12 hours per day. The average guy can be totally invisible in a crowded restaurant. I don’t care what kind of energy that dude brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:45 PM
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The fact that a dude has a girlfriend makes him top-tier. The average guy goes years with being single. These top-tier dudes are the only ones getting multiple chances because they got the first chance which the average dude never gets and if he does he better be absolutely perfect. That dude will get ghosted for a myriad of reasons. Average dudes have to walk on eggshells. Top dudes, they can play kind games all year and women will keep making excuses for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:36 PM
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The average man is not bitching about the male loneliness epidemic. I’m sure in your orbit they aren’t. Most guys will not talk about their feelings in any meaningful way. Dudes know there is judgment that’s handed down for expressing any kind of weakness. So, if they are interested in you they will NEVER express how lonely they really are - even if you ask them directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:32 PM
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You mean the others that you were willing to give a chance to. Guys with choice tend to experiment more with what a person will put up with. Why? Because they have other choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:55 PM
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I don’t see how anything you have said in your first paragraph is remotely true. First, most men don’t get the first chance let alone multiple chances. The only guys that are messing up, if you will, are guys that aren’t in to you that much AND have multiple choices. Your average guy who hasn’t matched on OLD in 18 months is walking on eggshells the entire time he’s dating a woman because he knows it will be another 18 months before he gets another match. The average dude knows that all she has …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:53 PM
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My marriage to my ex-wife was exactly that. Horrible person and I lost all attraction for her. Yeah, so, forcing myself every day to find a shred of beauty in her was a struggle. Ten years of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:34 PM
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You can be a gentleman, I’m surprised it got him anywhere tbh, without being a lecherous caveman. That dude was still horny, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:29 PM
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I would expect that response. Women don’t have to compromise or do anything when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:26 PM
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I don’t know what you are calling weirdly horny but you realize most guys don’t get matches with OLD for years. That’s the average man’s experience. I think you can give a pass for a dude being horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:37 PM
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I wouldn’t believe anything OKCupid states.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:26 PM
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Agreed. The problem started in the 80’s with BS rom-coms that have the guy incessantly chasing the woman and getting her through persistence. Since this never fails in movies, it was internalized that this must work IRL. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t. All this chasing will bring disappointment. If that woman isn’t making excuses to be around you, then you should leave her behind because she already friend-zoned you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:09 PM
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Absolutely not! My family isolated me years ago thus deeming me as worthless. Women have certainly have expressed that I’m low value. My definition of value is if you contribute positive attributes to another’s life. It could be providing advice when someone’s in need, buying stuff at a friends business that’s about to go under, being a positive force in someone’s life, or just helping a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:56 PM
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Me: “Dad, will I ever get married?” Dad: “Of course you will! You are so smart. Girls really like smart boys. Work hard, go to college and girls will start to see you as a potential husband.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:03 AM
2

The ire from romance novels comes from women don’t seem to separate reality from fantasy. I may want to get with ScarJo. Am I going to get with ScarJo? Probably not. I’m also not going to shut down any other opportunity waiting for ScarJo to knock on my door. Women on the other hand go to dating apps, filter everybody out besides the 7’ romance novel dude, and can’t understand why she can’t find a man. She will sit at home and wait for this dude to show up. It’s not just one woman do this, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:41 PM
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I haven’t done a scientific study. In my travels I don’t see a dude like that at all. I go out every weekend and there a ton of single dudes everywhere, especially if it’s something active. I will include myself into that mix. I surely don’t act like that asshole. It could be my age as well but I treat women with respect, which really has never gotten me anywhere with a woman, TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:29 PM
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Age, face, height- all red flags for me absolutely. Women’s advice on Reddit is “just have a great personality, bro” with zero emphasis on age, face, or height. Women could absolutely write this advice in the beginning of whatever post, “This advice will only work if you have these qualities, …. I’d be just fine with that. Saves me from reading the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:16 PM
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The guy in the video is an ass. That dude doesn’t represent the male population of guys that struggle on dating apps. Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:11 PM
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Women will break every rule for that hot, married guy who has three kids at home and she has to meet him outside of town behind the Waffle House.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:09 PM
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That would seem to be true. It takes me about 20 minutes to craft a message to a woman based on her profile. There’s a lot of “can’t be” requirements that I have to think through. You can’t just ask a question. It has to be the perfect question and yet still no responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:05 PM
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I do agree with that. If you are a dude and looking for a girlfriend and/or sex, no amount of talking is going to get relationship with that woman. That shit only happens in the movies where she has zero interest and he’s able to change her mind. The Fantastic Four movie is more realistic than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:03 PM
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Right here!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:57 PM
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You came out swinging today! If I were a dude that didn’t take any of the advice, then I 100% agree with you. On the other hand, what peeves me, is that I have taken the advice, applied it, and still am not dating any women due to this advice. I read profiles, I have a social life outside of my house, out every weekend, empathetic, independent, financially independent, don’t need a mommy, and I’m still alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:54 PM
1

What are your “rules”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:50 PM
2

I’m almost in my twilight years. Status = alone, lonely. Worst. Fears.Achieved
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:30 AM
1

What’s great style to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:13 PM
0

The friendzone is eternal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:07 PM
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I think it’s more the opposite of what you are saying. That women consider average men a part of the ugly man population. If a guy is a 5 or 6 in a dude’s mind, women(with their friends approval) consider this dude a 1 or 2. This ultimately gets them rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:42 PM
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Again, women make 100% of the rules of dating. Confidence is an attribute for attractive men in the world of dating. Women want ATTRACTIVE men to have the confidence to approach them so women do not have to go through the possible embarrassment or rejection. This is so women can sit back and do the rejecting. That’s it. Most men that do well in the careers have oodles of confidence. You can’t be successful otherwise. There are certainly men that do well in the career and are abject failures with…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:53 PM
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I don’t understand the new myth where ugly dudes are dating attractive women and the dudes are abusing these women. That is so counter to what my life experiences have shown me. Usually the woman dumps this dude because he is trying too hard to keep her. That’s what I’ve seen. It’s so rare for an attractive woman to give some ugly dudes a chance, I don’t understand why the women of Reddit are trying to normalize this rare phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:30 PM
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If you want yearn, have him take four different testosterone supplements. I do and I yearn everyday and I’m in my fifties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:23 PM
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It depends on your age and where you live. Very few men meet women through OLD. Those dudes would’ve done well anyway IRL, they are just padding their stats. The average dude won’t even see a match in two years. If you are a young man, approach in public. If you are older like me and women my age do not go out as much, it’s the only depressing way to meet women. Spoiler alert: I haven’t had a relationship due to OLD yet in 7 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:15 PM
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Sorry, I’m not retreating into my basement to play video games. That is the exception not the norm. I’ve been an advocate for women all of my life and definitely put my money where my mouth is. I don’t expect, but it would be nice to find a woman that actually understands the challenges that the average man faces today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:16 PM
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I agree with that but that will never happen in my lifetime. I can guarantee that. Chad that sails through OLD with dozens of matches per day, doesn’t give a fuck about the average guy who doesn’t get a match for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:12 PM
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I agree with most of what you are saying. I don’t see men inventing respectable reasons from lack of self-awareness. I am probably not going to describe this well but any kind of male “weakness” gets turned into something that is derogatory and negative. Any dude that is lonely is seen as an incel that plays video games on a headset in his parents basement with cheetoh dust all of his shirt that contain his belly. I’m not saying this guy doesn’t exist but that dude is the exception not the norm.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:09 PM
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The dudes playing video games and withdrawing is a case where the exception is overshadowing the rule. When I go out, a lot of times it’s a ton of dudes. Pickleball, all dudes. Biking, dudes. Local parks, dudes. Bar/restaurants, married couples, and dudes! Dudes are fucking everywhere. Where are the single women? Nowhere to be found. I guess they are home playing video games and watching the Hallmark channel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:08 AM
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Guys have always dismissed other guys because those other guys are seen as competition. I don’t like it but that’s what happens. There is a lot of what’s best for me vs. what’s best for the group. There is a lot of short-sightedness. I have ditched dudes like this because of this. Again, I’m not the only one that has done this. This is why dudes have smaller social circles than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:02 AM
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I don’t expect any woman to be the solution for anything. I don’t like the fact on Reddit: women deny it, mischaracterize it, and don’t understand or care about it. Now, I have been bombarded with gender issues; such as, equal pay and body rights all of my life. It seems to me women should could provide an inkling of understanding for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:59 AM
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So, you are clueless about it as well. You are making this assumption that if a dude is lonely then he must be complaining from his couch, doesn’t have a circle of friends, and that is certainly not the case. What you seem to misunderstand is that the loneliness comes from lack of romantic pursuits or absolutely none, more specifically. You can go to all of the dance lessons, cooking classes, festivals, dart tournaments, trivia nights and if you do not have any women that are romantically intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:20 PM
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I get along with women fine IRL. Women, or at least they say they are, come on Reddit for their own entertainment. PPD is their entertainment and women don’t ever plan on providing any kind of quality advice besides be attractive or be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:41 AM
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I don’t want advice from a dude. Why would I want advice from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:58 PM
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Women don’t understand this point. If a lonely dude hangs out with dudes all this gets the lonely dude is, more dudes. A straight lonely dude doesn’t want more dudes in his life. Guys do not put other guys in situations to find a lonely dude a woman to date. There is always a pocket of dudes that think why would I want to help this dude when I can have that chica too. Woman logic does not work. If you are playing, say rugby, on a weekly basis with a bunch of dudes. All you will get is a bunch of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:56 PM
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Women do not care about male loneliness. Women do not think it actually exists. Again, nor do they care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:48 PM
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Totally not true about most men who are the loudest don’t want to do anything and just complain. When the advice is, “throughout history , 25% of dudes don’t procreate, well sucks to be you, hehe.” That’s where the complaining comes in. If women actually give tangible, actionable advice on here, they wouldn’t have PPD for their entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:39 PM
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Whomever they want. Women make all of the rules for dating. If they decide to date a low income earner dude, the consequence is that they are paying for everything. A high income earner dude, might have his attention elsewhere, like making more money or dedicating 90% of his life to their job. Women still have to live with the consequences because they make 100% of the dating rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:12 PM
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Are you just overlaying your bad experience with men to say the comment men are men? It’s an over generalization of men. I’ve never seen ugly dudes treat pretty women like shit. A matter of fact it’s been the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:15 AM
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Until I read your last paragraph, I didn’t get where women thought they could change a dude. So, this is why women love project POS dudes. Women think they have a power where they are going take this caveman, abusive, narcissistic, sack of shit and turn him into a decent human being that cares for other people. If women haven’t figured it out yet, they aren’t going to change that dude. This is why women get pumped/dumped, victims of domestic violence, and raise children to watch all of this go d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:07 AM
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Being an advocate for women’s rights all of my life has never got me anywhere with women on a romantic level. It does seem like when you care about women with their right to choose, equal pay, equity in basic human rights, women still choose men that want her to not have any of those rights at all. It just seems like women love the drama of choosing a man that sees her as disposable and as a sex slave and not a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:54 AM
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I’m a genetic dead end and I’m neither autistic or have ADHD. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:24 PM
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I’m not saying there aren’t dudes that are in relationships. If they are older, they did not meet on OLD, they met before OLD. If they are younger, say 20’s, in a relationship, that dude is not average. The average dude 20-40 is not meeting any women organically, it just doesn’t happen like that. When women can go on OLD and shop for their perfect man, the average guy doesn’t stand a chance against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:08 PM
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I do agree that women do not understand or care what the average man is. I have debated this over the years on Reddit and there is a fundamental disconnect on who the average man is. The average man is touch-starved, hasn’t had a date in over a year or let alone sex. They haven’t had a conversation with a woman from a romantic standpoint in years. This man has zero matches except for IG influencers and/or escorts. This dude goes out all of the time and is still invisible to women. Any time this …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:03 PM
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More women are opting out of dating. This is definitely true of older women(45+). Dudes are opting out of dating as well. As a guy going to a social event it gives probability way more chances influence than what it should have. You can go to any social event, it’s nothing but dudes, and still be invisible to the three women that show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:44 AM
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The difficulty is that as women get older they don’t appear in social spaces as much as they did when they were younger. This leaves meeting someone up to probability and chance more than availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:40 AM
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I’m one of the dudes that doesn’t get your second paragraph. I’ve never seen that, ever. The good looking Chad is the one treating multiple women like absolute garbage. I know multiple dudes like this even at 50 years old they are still treating women poorly. Those dudes see women as disposable and can get another like two hours later. I’ve definitely never seen the mid-dude start dating an attractive woman, period. Let alone that dude treat her like garbage. That dude would make the most out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:14 AM
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I don’t want to be the center of the universe. I want to be the center of one woman’s universe and she be the center of mine. It doesn’t look like that’s going to be happening any time soon. This year’s cuffing is pretty lack-luster.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:01 AM
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People do jump to conclusions. On Reddit, you go on dating subs as a dude trying to find answers to why you can’t get a match on OLD. You won’t get any real solid advice. Eventually, somebody will eventually post that you must be unattractive and therefore you are a shitty dude. Like, there are all of these shitty dudes running around IRL that don’t know how to bathe, dress, talk to people at work or the grocery store or at Target. It’s just fucking ludicrous the labels that people are more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:57 AM
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Women definitely have more say in who they date than they have had. They are not just looking for providers, like our fathers told us. So, the dating dynamic has changed. It’s foolish to not acknowledge that. Apps have made it worse because the world is smaller. In 1984, it wasn’t commonplace for a woman to meet up with a man 200 miles away. 10 miles would’ve been a non-starter for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:27 PM
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Women make the rules for dating. Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:53 AM
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My definition of attractive is pretty low. Yours may be different because you are using the word hot. I find different things attractive about women. The women I’m considering attractive are probably mid by your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:53 AM
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I did that in the 90’s when you may have been in the uterus. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:57 PM
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Ok. I just measured them. I have a pair of Burberry that add 1.5”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:37 PM
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Thanks for the insight. I wasn’t trying to get you in a gotcha moment. I just wanted to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:31 PM
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Where do you weigh in on dress shoes? They usually have one to two inches added to the shoe. Now that’s it colder in my part of the world. I don’t wear anything but dress shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:07 AM
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You may be the exception but the cosmetics industry is a billion dollar industry. Most dress shoes for a dude has a heel of one to two inches, do you look down at a dude for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:05 AM
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Fuck yeah! Time has made me ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:44 AM
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I know for a fact that it’s not some magic trick that the good guy turns into a bad guy. Spoiler alert: he was a bad guy to begin with, the signs that he was a POS were just ignored. Maybe you said to yourself, he was just having a bad day. The signs were there. They were there from the first date, they were there from the first kiss, and they were definitely there from the first time you were intimate. These signs were ignored for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:26 PM
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Attractive can be a myriad of qualities to me. It could be something she said, something she was wearing, it could be the way she did her hair that day, etc… It doesn’t necessarily mean she is conventionally attractive but she was attractive to me. Since IDGAF about anyone else’s opinion I have a wider range than most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:10 PM
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If women shouldn’t be shamed for being attracted to the 1%, women should stop shaming the other 99% of men immediately. Posting memes and Reddit posts about there are no good men left or where have the good men gone is counterproductive and doesn’t help the psyche’s of the average man at all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:48 PM
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Are you just messing with me? I’m not a guy who’s in his basement with virtual friends. I have multiple social circles. I can say that these social circles have helped me from a platonic life fulfillment standpoint however they have never helped me from a dating standpoint. Every woman that I’ve ever met was outside a social circle that I currently have. My ex-wife of 10 years, I met in the wild. Not because of a social circle. Once one woman in a circle finds you unattractive(usually within the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:29 PM
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Good luck with improving your social circle. Women do not and will not give you an A for effort because you happen to be friends with one of her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:40 AM
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I disagree with there is no expiration date for finding a relationship statement. I think that may be true for women. For men, I think that’s on a case-by-case basis. I’ve seemed to have aged out in dating at 53. Before you think I’m just looking for 20 year olds, I’m only looking for women between 47 and 57. There is no interest in me whatsoever. So, I would say for me, the odds are pretty low if not impossible at this point in having a relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:37 AM
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Older women don’t struggle. WTF are you talking about? They are absolutely not invisible. They may be invisible to the one or two dudes that complete her and her friend’s checklists but not to the average dude. The average older man would love to date but that dude is absolutely invisible to her. The average dude isn’t completing anyone’s checklist so she swipes left or totally ignores that dude IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:28 AM
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I’m an avid reader. I stopped going to coffee shops. You still have to be attractive in order for the scenario to work. Even joining a book club, women don’t give a shit about you if you are average. Hell, women will talk about dudes they wished would talk to them right in front of other average dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:22 AM
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I wouldn’t say strange. I would say that I didn’t meet their expectations. I’ve known women in my lifetime to know that they also do things with a dual purpose. Sure, they went there to learn how to dance but they are also there to meet men. It’s a side quest for them. If they are shelling out money each month for dance classes, they have the expectation that they are going to meet their guy there. If that doesn’t happen, she’s either going to quit and shop for her dude via OLD or she is just go…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:08 AM
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The one key point that is missing here is that women have vastly more tools at their disposal to mitigate physical flaws than men do. I mean go to any department store that sells clothes and apparel. The women’s section is 2/3 of the store. You have to go through the women’s section to find the closest they threw the men’s section in. What’s there for men? Brown clothes, sweatpants, sports jerseys, a pack of underwear, and a bunch of graphic tee shirts, oh and maybe some button down shirts in 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:52 AM
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At a dance class, women are at a different level than men. Women dance in their bedrooms starting at like 3 years old. Women do not have patience for average men that may struggle to find a beat, anticipate a tempo increase, or coordinate arms with legs. They have patience for attractive men that struggle not some average dude. You won’t find a woman to disagree with this, at all. Boys are not being taught to dance. They are being told that if you get a great job, be a productive member of socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:44 AM
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I’m not off-putting but if you can’t dance to begin with, you are definitely not going to earn any points. She will get annoyed that she has to dance with you. Some woman doesn’t want to be partnered with an average dude that can’t dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:21 AM
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Women will not and do not give an A for effort to an average dude. Nauseating May be too strong of a word but when attractive women stop showing up for a dance classes that you’ve signed up for, I’m not sure how to describe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:16 AM
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Women have to have private sites that ask, “are we screwing the same dude?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:02 AM
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I’m sorry your theory works for women only. Go out, do things you enjoy, and a man will fall in your lap. For men, it’s go out do things that align with what women enjoy, approach a lot of women, suck up every rejection, and you might find someone after 10 years of rejections. Also, never get a compliment, a sign of interest, or any kind of positive reinforcement. Keep trying though, maybe some woman might after a decade tell you that she liked something you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:00 AM
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As a man, you can do all of the things that OP is expecting a man to perform, and still lose every single day. I mean every single day for years and years. Like take dance classes. You may go to dance classes and personally enjoy the experience but then realize pretty quickly that you have nauseated every single woman around you that you are trying to attract. Pretty much to the point where they do not come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:50 PM
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I think OP is onto something. If you are a 45-55 year old woman and you are still complaining there are no good men left, the common denominator is you. If you have been single that long, riding the Ferris Wheel of apps, you might want to look at yourself. Women make all of the rules with dating, created scarcity where there is none, tell dudes to stop approaching IRL, then and yet still feel like they lose. That’s like inventing Connect Four and losing every game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:57 PM
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It’s obvious in my stated career but I did not make my profile centered around my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:05 PM
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⬆️ high income earner. Still invisible and ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:17 PM
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I don’t disagree with your assessment. Dudes are ugly and women have a very narrow list of requirements that have to be approved by their inner circle. This makes compromise totally on the woman because she makes 100% of all the rules for dating. So eventually, she has to come to the realization that she will probably not marry in the top 20 and has to settle for the top 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:58 AM
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I agree. Choose better regardless of gender. If you are a woman and you are on the endless Ferris wheel of dating apps with different men, choose better. If you are a dude and you keep getting dumped so she can bang friends, choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:53 PM
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Because they are subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:40 AM
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I like that you are brutally honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:54 AM
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Of course, women get upset when they are friendzoned. It doesn’t hit them that hard because they have thousands of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:00 AM
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I could care less about anybody else’s approval. Life’s too short short for that noise!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:34 PM
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The biggest surprise is that women really haven’t changed as far as wanting to get approval from their friends. Whether they are 18 or 58, they are still trying to make their friends jealous with the men that have deemed attractive. Then, wonder why the dude ghosts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:56 PM
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Including women that can’t or men have not been willing to inseminate. Survival of the fittest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:57 PM
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After a few months of loneliness, I agree that’s on me. Years of loneliness? Dance classes, OLD profile adjustments, out every weekend, pickleball, cooking, met concerts, 80’s hasbeen concerts, charity functions, volunteer functions, speed dating, high profile openings. Still single? Probably a societal problem. Women seem to dismiss that there are guys that do the right things consistently and are constantly dismissed by women. Women also seem to dismiss that after months and a couple of years …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:41 PM
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Seriously, is the Hallmark channel an example of “women writing men?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:49 PM
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Definitely not true. Time being alone has made me bitter. Not by my choice or entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:53 AM
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I’m not sure why women state this. There is really no evidence that this is what they truly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:49 AM
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He’s such an asshole. I’m not sure why my mom wouldn’t let him do her. I think I’m in love with him!🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:46 AM
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I have to point out to my GOP friends that their taxes are the reason why the roads are paved, they are not eating rocks with their Chips Ahoy cookies, and because of EOE/DEIA they have the jobs that they have. That usually starts a spirited conversation. They have forgotten what their taxes actually do for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:32 PM
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I didn’t vote for Trump at all ever. The GOP did a much better job of crafting the story they wanted to tell. They sowed distrust in education so their followers don’t read as much as they should. GOP told them that what you read are lies and podcasters like Joe Rogan speak the truth. What you see on YouTube from GOP influencers, that’s the truth. So, they did a much better job of manipulating the masses to their cause. They have sold their lies where even families are split on political values.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:27 PM
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Gaston’s a piece of shit but I’m sure there were plenty of average, nice dudes that Belle wasn’t giving the time of day to running around that town.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:04 PM
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Not all porn is funding human trafficking but good point. Porn has been around since the 70’s since I was born. While I read about human history, I don’t really care about context of me masturbating. It’s just not something I think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:48 PM
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I think it’s more like, being a good man by itself isn’t attractive to women at all. It’s never at the top of any woman’s list. If it is on the list it’s towards the bottom. This might be why there are so many shitty men, supposedly. What men do is a function of what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:45 PM
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I don’t see how calling men low quality helps the conversation. I just don’t believe that there are that many men that are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:42 PM
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Don’t forget Beauty and the Beast. He’s a kidnapping, abusive incel but that’s ok because he’s tall and rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:40 PM
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You can do all of those things and still not attract anyone. Guys in general can’t dance, volunteering is hit or miss, church dating/speed dating is multiple rejections in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:38 PM
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True the guy’s list is smaller. For me, you better have a career and friends. Not a job and one friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:35 PM
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Cold approaching only works for a small percentage of men, especially with a group of women. A man isn’t getting judged by the woman he decided to approach. He’s getting judged by all of the women in that group. That’s a lot of standards a man has to overcome. So success is rare. Additionally, years ago women were complaining about cold approaching and how they can’t stand it. So, dudes listened. It wasn’t a heavy lift to stop approaching because it never worked anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:33 PM
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That’s wrong unattractive women also get propositioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:28 PM
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I do that too but sometimes I need a little inspiration. For me, it’s not a daily thing. Hell, it’s like two or three weeks. I’ve been single for years. You can have a hardline about it but to me it seems a little unrealistic. Thanks for posting your list because most women will not do that. I appreciate the feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:26 PM
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The last date I had was 3 years ago. I thought it ended well. The next day, I went to try to possibly set up a second date but was shot down. I got the, “you are a great, but it’s not you it’s me” line. I told her, “cool. Thanks for letting me know. If you want to talk again send me a text. Good luck.” That was the end of it. Haven’t had a date since then. So, now you’ve now met someone who took rejection well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:15 PM
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I would struggle with number 3. I’ve slept with more than 5 people. I enjoy porn when I’m single but if I’m actually seeing somebody, the porn gets shelved. I’m not addicted to it but if I’m single, what are my other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:09 PM
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I don’t have a problem looking for an attractive man, if they say it. The “woe is me” memes that fly around facebook and instagram only tell half the story because they are not saying the quiet part out loud. Women, just say, I’m looking for an attractive man AND who is a good man. Don’t imply it, state it outright! Then, you probably wouldn’t get 10000 dudes in your inbox because, I’m looking at your profile thinking I’m one or the other or neither. The average guy would probably move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:04 PM
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I’m sorry that women go through that. Some guys are just crap, other guys can’t stand rejection, or other guys aren’t intelligent to understand that everyone isn’t going to like them so they lash out. Due to this type of behavior, guys can’t get any feedback from women on why we may not be a good fit. I’m fine with women telling me the truth whatever it is. The dynamic about getting zero feedback is pretty terrible because there be something that wasn’t conveyed properly in an app that could be …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:51 AM
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Neither. Now, I do have genuine disgust for humanity, but that belongs in another post. Women as a gender, I do not have any animosity towards. I have women friends and work with women whom I respect and admire. What really ticks me off, from a dating perspective, is that I have been alone for sometime. The goalposts have changed dramatically. As a twenty or thirty year old man, I never had a problem getting a date and I was even married for a decade. As a fifty year old man, I have gone years w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:29 AM
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This is not true.Men who have choice abuse the situation. The power that women give to elite men fund this dynamic. Most men will not take advantage of a situation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:42 AM
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Have all of the standards. I volunteered at a nursing home for a point in time. I can honestly say that I never heard one woman state she was grateful for having standards. I did hear that these women regretting for not dating more. Being in a nursing home when your family doesn’t visit you that often provides perspective but that’s only my experience volunteering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:18 AM
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I understand what you’re saying. My dad wasn’t great for my mother but my mother wasn’t great for my father either. I think it’s too extreme and somewhere they should be a “happy middle.” Humans are too messy and complicated to have a strict, all encompassing list that it’s all or nothing. It seems that way from a male’s perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:25 AM
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I think you are right. What women perceive as average men aren’t really average at all, they are way more attractive than what the real average actually is. I’ve had this argument on Reddit for years. The average man on OLD gets zero to 1 match per year. That’s the average and I haven’t convinced any woman of this depressing fact
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:35 AM
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Very true. I’d much rather be sifting through hundreds of matches than the desert that is my inbox of zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:29 AM
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Women are an integral part of their own problem. Probably when your parents met, your mother didn’t have a checklist of 100 requirements that your father had to cross off. More than likely your parents met at a social function and that was pretty much it. Today’s pickiness has gotten a little out of control. Very few people are going to check all the boxes that somebody wants. That’s the part of being in a human relationship that makes interesting, fun, and uniquely human. This is why dudes swip…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:25 AM
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I believe if you want to serve in the military you should be able to do that. You can’t tell me that a fat dude can’t have a job in the military. Women should be able to serve as well. I also believe that anyone who wants to get married should be able to get married. So if a dude wants to marry his left hand, he should be able to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:33 PM
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I don’t understand the reference but it’s happened. I’ve done dance classes. It can be brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:29 PM
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It does kind of work that way. Guys don’t really care what other guys think. Women absolutely care what other women think. You see that time and again in reality and on junk shows like pop the balloon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:58 AM
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I would agree with you but I’ve danced with women that were just plain not interested and that body language she projects is not nice at all. It makes a dude feel worse. I’m not sure what’s worse being touch-starved or having some woman projecting the ick? Of course, you might as well leave at the point because once woman isn’t into you, none of them will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:32 AM
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I think your comment is a function of Reddit versus reality. If you are a woman and you go to a dance class, you aren’t picking some average dude to date because he showed up at a dance class. More than likely, he can’t find the beat or the rhythm, and that will make him seem even more unattractive. Whether or not this guy is having fun and enjoying it, he just wasted his time. The woman knows for a fact that she can right on OLD and pick from 1000 dudes, so she doesn’t ever have to date an aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:26 AM
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Or it goes the other way and you are still touch starved in a room full of people. This makes you feel worse about being yourself than ever. Also, if men actually met women through dance classes, there would be tons of dudes at dance classes, and there are not. I personally do not know anyone who went to a dance class and met someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:41 AM
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I’d like to think that you are correct. People ingest media all day long and will internalize it. That’s why the Hallmark Channel, Bachelor, Bachelorette, Golden Bachelor, pop the balloon still exist. I think my examples are toxic in their own way and set unrealistic expectations especially with the quality of men argument, at least it’s a contributing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:37 AM
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Of course men can go to dance classes. If you go to dance classes, just don’t have the expectation of meeting women. Simple. Unless you are an incredibly attractive dude, you won’t anyway. The dudes that are in dance classes are usually married and their wives drag them to dance classes. If you are just an average dude, who was just interested in taking some dance classes, have little to none coordination with beats and rhythm, women will absolutely not give you an A for effort. If this is the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:29 AM
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Attractive humans have dating power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:10 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:04 PM
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No, absolutely not. Women have been dancing in their bedrooms since they were in elementary school. Guys start way too late and really don’t know how to move. Even beginner’s classes women are well ahead of the curve while most dudes show up knowing zero. Thus, make the dudes loo like idiots and women frustrated. Of course, unless you are attractive and all of a sudden she has all of the patience of a saint.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:51 AM
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There is some truth to this. Men are told by the fathers to get the great job and the great wife and kids will follow. This was beat into their heads for 18 years. Women don’t care about any of that anymore.This leaves a lot of dudes who have concentrated their careers instead of EQ out in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:46 AM
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There shouldn’t be. Women don’t care either. If you have gone to graduate school that doesn’t have any pull with women. It ranks below military service, volunteering, or charity work. Nothing g closes up a woman’s legs than somebody who has put forth some type of humanitarian work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:42 AM
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No offense, that’s the worst. Women like a dude that can move not a dude that they have to teach to move.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:34 AM
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For dudes, you better know how to dance before going to dance classes. I’ve done that. Women are pretty brutal if you are average and don’t know how to dance. IMO, dance for a year and learn by videos, then go to dance classes claiming you font know how to dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:19 AM
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That’s not true. I’m saying that men do not want to commit with these women because they are losers and they should own that fact
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:02 PM
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The original point is that these women do not get into long term relationships. It’s their own doing. They go through the same cycle four to five times per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:00 PM
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First point, the bum dude probably was a bum from the beginning. There were signs. I guarantee it. Second point, these few month dating flings are not commitments. If that dude isn’t at least speaking in some future context(like sharing a slice of cake next week) then he’s not committing. If this is a perpetual cycle for a woman, she’s the cause and she should own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:48 PM
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I don’t see the point of debating the semantics of one word. It’s implied in my post if you take the post in it’s entirety
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:04 PM
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I agree with that only if a woman is willing to communicate. If women don’t want to communicate, they shut down the conversation and they make the rules. Women are intimately involved in their own failures. Both men and women need to own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:55 PM
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My original post was not about a woman who gets married and the guy treats her like shit. She’s not a loser at all. My original post is about women who can’t get a guy to commit after supposedly choosing the one and they are in this cycle for years like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:52 PM
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I didn’t want to focus on winners. There are definitely men and women who are winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:49 PM
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I will admit, I travel but it’s within the contiguous United States. I haven’t been too much out of the country. I’ve been considering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:48 PM
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I’ve seen it. At least a couple of times per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:47 PM
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That’s not committing. Committing, the way I’m thinking about it, is this the last woman I’m dating. I’m marrying this woman and I’m going to spend the rest of my life with her. Couple months of dating, taking pictures together, that’s not committing. Also, it sounds like you are focusing on one dude. I’m talking about these women that do this three or four times per year. Supposedly, she picked the one(cue Elton John), four times this year and for the last three years. She’s a loser. That’s wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:46 PM
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Even then, that’s not really a criteria. A 5’4” 250 lb could definitely get a date in a few hours. Whether she can get that dude to commit is totally in her court.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:31 PM
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You shouldn’t but if she is going round and round every few months with different dudes that don’t commit, the common denominator is the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:30 PM
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I feel like I’m a pretty normal looking guy. Age has definitely made me less attractive, which doesn’t bode well OLD. I’ve done well in life and I don’t flaunt it. Women on the other hand, the bar is ridiculously low for them to meet a man and commit. IMO, it must be them if some dude in his fifties doesn’t want that companionship considering he may have only 5-15 years left.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:28 PM
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The bar is insanely low for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:23 PM
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Isn’t that the woman’s issue just as much as the man’s. He’s really not going to treat a woman poorly if he’s really into her. Him being into her is a function of her personality and what she brings to a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:09 PM
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That’s just what it sounded like to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:07 PM
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If you are making the rules of dating and still can’t win then you are a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:06 PM
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Absolutely. Women want the stable relationship not just the physical, for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:05 PM
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It sounds like you have accepted your situation just like I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:04 PM
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I’d much rather be the female loser than a male loser. A loser is still a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:00 PM
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Not all women but some women, love a project and the drama that comes with it. I think it has to do with ultimately not being dumped. If she is on the fence about two men, one being a bum and the other having his shit together, she’ll take that bum 9 times out of 10. The dude that has his shit together, might start think why am I with this woman and what is she actually doing to contribute positively to this relationship. If the answer is nothing, she’s dumped. The bum will keep hanging around a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:42 AM
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Unfortunately, I cannot avoid OLD. Women my age just do not go out as much as they did when they were younger. OLD is the only game in town if I ever have a chance of meeting a woman ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:00 PM
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These guys who do this collect names! They will say shit like, “I’ve never fucked a Sarah before. I can’t wait to have a Brittanie.” Women love this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:20 PM
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What’s masculinity? I’m a dude and overflowing with masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:22 PM
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The bar is so low for women. Fuck well, that’s the bar. Pregnant wife probably didn’t fuck well. Guys don’t care about tattoos or has kids. He probably isn’t going to do anything with those kids anyway. Fuck well, that’s it, and most women fail to keep doing that after years in a relationship. Then the relationship crumbles, she gets a new guy five minutes after she dumps the other dude and starts fucking well again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:19 PM
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Only the top tier men can be promiscuous. Most men are promiscuous with their hand. No woman is going to look down on some dude she’s sharing 20 other women with. She won’t want to give that situation up. She’ll start shaming the other 19 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:02 PM
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There’s a lot to unpack. Women don’t need men in any regard. Women have created scarcity so they do want a man but only the top tier men. This is why there are so many lonely, single men all over the world and so many women sharing a bunch of men. There are no more respecting of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:58 PM
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True, to a point. Men can’t negotiate attraction. Women, all they have to do is keeping hanging around some dude she’s interested in and she’ll get what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:42 AM
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Somebody award this!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:40 AM
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Women will state some characteristic that they want in a man as a preference, like height. It’s easier to say it’s a preference than immutable standard. Why? They’ll know they will get that standard in some dude. It’s easy to sit back and state some crazy standard when you’ll know you will get it. Again, women have created scarcity where there is absolutely none. Brilliant!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:38 AM
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Pudgy dude will get zero dates, guaranteed. Pudgy woman can go on infinitely many dates to find her dude. She doesn’t have to fuck every one of them. There is such a disparity in experiences between men and women that leaves a good percentage of men out in the cold. This conversation leaves out that men want love too. Any beauty standard is definitely imposed on women by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:30 AM
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The truth is 90% of men are looking for love but 3% will find it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:33 AM
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I can’t buy in on revenge
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:10 AM
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Your definition of asshole might be different than my definition of asshole. I’m just wondering what’s the error between our definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:39 PM
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So many women would rather share a bad dude than date a plain dude who’s nice. That bad dude will be sharing 20 women and the plain good guy won’t even date 20 women in his lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:36 PM
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This is so untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:45 AM
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Because if you’ve done all of the improving that you can do and you still aren’t attractive, you get the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:51 AM
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The only thing I will say about average is that on Reddit average is definitely misconstrued. Women routinely state that average men on OLD go on two to three dates a week. Almost on cue, they will argue back if you state that the average man on OLD go on two to three dates a decade. Women have a hard time believing that there are men on OLD that are serial dates that go through women. They think all guys have this same experience and that’s average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:49 AM
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With dudes that are not Chad, sure they do the breaking up. They aren’t really into those dudes anyway. Chad, on the other hand, she will go through all kinds of bullshit until he breaks up with her. Chads are a smaller percentage of the male population
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:37 PM
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Women forget the relationship between marriage and friendship. This is why most of the time she doesn’t marry one of her guy friends and dudes get pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:32 PM
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Some do, but because of his choice. If she is boring then he will start to wander thinking of all of the other women he could have. He ghosts and moves on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:30 PM
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Church, kinda, doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:26 AM
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I don’t think you guys know what a bad boy is. Bad boys are abusers of women and still get attention from women. They have been arrested for violence against women and women love them for it. This is the dude when there is a crime in your town the cops go to him first. If an old lady gets robbed, he is suspect number one. He’s the dude that on any given Saturday night he’s having a fist fight with a different woman and the cops get called. There is not one single day he doesn’t have a different …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:10 AM
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I’ll add, women love drama. Absolutely love it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:01 AM
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That’s good, great! Some women have a problem with that. Reasons why, I don’t know. You’d have to ask them, like my ex-wife. She couldn’t stand that I could survive on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:29 PM
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I think that’s the problem with choice. A relationship/marriage is supposed to lift both people. If someone dies/leaves you feel an enormous burden off of your shoulders, you chose wrong. You chose someone who wanted to be mothered and you were looking to be a mother-wife. I wonder how you would be with an independent man that really doesn’t need a woman to do cooking, cleaning, dressing, and any other basic need?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:27 PM
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I think you are correct. A man is supposed to be stable and strong in the beginning. Any kind of weakness or emotion kills desire because she will see this as some sort of trauma dumping. If dating turns into a relationship, she will wonder why the dude isn’t showing more emotion. Of course, this is due to not being dumped at any point in time for trauma dumping. The dude doesn’t know when he can have a bad day or not barring a death of a relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:17 AM
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So, their dating the same guy and checking to see who else is sharing the same guy they are dating. Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:09 AM
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So, if women aren’t sleeping with the same subset of men why are there sites titled, “Are We Sleeping with the Same Man?” Of course, there is the Tea app where they can talk about the same subset of men they are sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:48 PM
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The hard-lined approach that women seem to have with standards lately is perplexing to me. Human beings are complicated. Having standards that are so rigid is counterintuitive to the human experience. For me, standards are fluidic, they are nice to have. For example, I’m an educated man. I have a double Masters in STEM. I would like an educated woman but if she didn’t graduate high school or didn’t go to college, this isn’t a deal breaker. Now, after getting to know her, she is not open to new i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:27 AM
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Yes, they have. On this sub they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:35 PM
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Women don’t mind sharing attractive men before dating an average dude. So, there might be an overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:13 AM
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You might be right but “women” on Reddit have openly admitted that they would rather share an attractive man than date an average guy where attraction blossoms over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:54 AM
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Old dude here living in this 80/20 bullshit that the internet has created.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:06 AM
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Let’s say this theory is true. Women will not just date anyone because they are the only thing available. They will wait and even share desirable men before giving an average guy a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:26 PM
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Romance is certainly dead. Both men and women killed it but predominantly women have killed it. Women killed it, thought they didn’t want it, realized they missed, now want it back, and haven’t figured out how to get men back to doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:58 PM
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It doesn’t sound like either man you have discussed is average by any stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:28 PM
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Women are certainly attracted to looks. Ask the average dude on OLD that hasn’t had a match in a year. It’s not because of their bio or their hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:26 PM
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She will absolutely wait for the Chad versus dating Average Joe in the meantime. Ashley is probably on Reddit right now posting there are too many low-value guys and complaining about the construction worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:23 PM
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These guys slay everyday. These same dudes you are speaking of always have different women hanging around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:23 PM
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I think the bigger question that should be asked is why work has to suck so bad that people can’t wait to get out of it. Work sucks, period. Everyone can’t wait for the weekend or anytime when they have off. We have an economic system built around an activity that nobody wants to do, for the most part. That’s the larger more global question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:35 AM
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Women watch shows like this and start thinking they want a criminal too. Why isn’t there a show about women glazing over average dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:11 AM
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Instead of using an app and getting a 2-d representation of a person you got to know someone. It didn’t leave the average man out in the dust. You understood more of why a woman didn’t want to date you instead of your first profile picture wasn’t the best, reject and swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:50 AM
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It was easier in the 90’s. That is for sure. Every conversation didn’t need to be 100% perfect and every syllable wasn’t analyzed. Sure, there was rejection but it was face-to-face and you knew the rationale. That’s was ok. You just went on your merry way and tried with some other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:22 PM
1

Most men also want something more than transactional sex. You also have the smaller percentage of dudes that “don’t have to pay for it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:44 PM
1

I would want to see the LSF and the correlation coefficient for the total data set.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:34 AM
4

Don’t worry. Women stopped seeing me as delicious years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:54 PM
1

I don’t hate women at all. I do hate that I’m invisible to them as a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:59 AM
0

Women adjust the guardrails because they have found their top-tiered man. Men adjust the guardrails because he actually found A woman and doesn’t want to lose her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:39 AM
1

There is some of that. I can only speak to my experiences. I got exhausted seeing the same women come into the soup kitchen with these destructive dudes. I just throw money and supplies at charities now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:25 AM
7

I’m part of a volunteer organization. It’s a sausage fest, never any women. I just give money now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:20 AM
6

That actually does happen. You think to yourself, “wow, she’s kind of awesome.” Then, she says or does something that’s really off-putting but she looks really delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:17 AM
3

The friendzone is more frustrating not because of hatred or lack of sexual intimacy. It’s that you see this woman as somebody that you want to spend the rest of your life with, she doesn’t feel that way , and never will feel that way. So, you want to have experiences with her, go through life’s ups and downs AND have the sexual intimacy. It gets real crazy when you have professed your feelings for her, get let down, and then watch who she picks to be her man. A lot of time it’s mind boggling to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:53 AM
18

I’m an unattractive well dressed man. It took me 3 decades to figure that out. I do like to dress well and more importantly, appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:59 PM
14

I don’t use lines. Natural, organic conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:30 PM
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You make a good point. Every guy, including myself, knows that shitty dude who is never without a woman by his side. My anecdotal story is about an acquaintance of mine, was a friend from middle school, who today is a violent repeat offender against women. This dude has been to prison because of it. A real shitty dude who really shouldn’t have a relationship with women at all and women can’t get enough of him. I’m always reading in the police blotter how the police were called to his house for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:42 AM
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All it takes is a single characteristic trait for men that is considered undesirable and that’s it. You might as well hang it up. Your classmate should’ve moved to another school and got a clean slate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:23 AM
1

I love fake boobs. Love them. I’m also self-aware, have a high emotional intelligence, successful, confident, and accomplished. Since I am not a project, too old to be considered attractive, or doesn’t need to be mothered by any woman; I’m literally invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:19 AM
1

How about zero dates? I’m pretty sure that’s not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:32 AM
4

It’s the continual, persistent choosing of bad men that I don’t understand. You figured after the same BS women would actually learn to look for and not get hurt. This is what leads guys to have this philosophy. If women continually pick these men, they must enjoy the degradation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:30 PM
3

TBH, I never thought about the connection between attractiveness and finance. You are probably right. I probably get left-swipes due to being unattractive(facially) AND not flaunting how much money I do have. I may have learned something on Reddit today, who would’ve thought?😀
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:59 AM
1

That’s when she has to bring her A-game. If she is worried about some dude dumping her for a younger woman, well she better doing something to keep that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:46 AM
4

I think there might be the occasional date thrown to an average dude. A woman will do this to validate what she doesn’t like. That dude has to give her the best date of her life because he’s already punched that no second date card before the date even starts. With one brief lull in conversation or minor slip up he’s definitely not moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:54 PM
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I agree with that. That’s absolutely true. An average woman can always level up with a better than average man. Always! While the average dude, if he somehow accidentally gets a date with a woman, shoots himself in the foot during the date because in the back of his head he knows that this may be the last date he ever has in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:23 PM
5

Agreed. It’s not whether you are pleasing to look at. That guy that you described has zero dates on a Friday night. None
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:16 PM
2

This guy knows a little statistics👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:13 PM
3

Almost everyone. I’m telling you they cannot keep it up and they will treat somebody like shit, at the very least passive aggressively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:00 AM
0

How are you defining average? In my experiences, I don’t see average guys abusing women, just out of necessity. The average guy goes months, possibly years between dates. I can see them getting booted for being more of a floor mat than abusing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:36 AM
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I really don’t think you are average and I don’t think you are dating average men. The average man does not have a date on Friday night. You go anywhere on a Friday night, places are empty. Whether it’s a park, restaurant, movie theater, or an event. These places are empty. You see one or two guys or a bunch of married couples. You aren’t seeing a bunch of men dating in a Friday night. The average guy on a Friday night is either at home or at a bar - either ogling women or getting shot down by w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:33 AM
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One or two dates, yes. This doesn’t mean let the dude impregnate you on date 2. An abuser has to take that shit out on somebody. They can’t hold that shit in. They love to abuse. You are going to see it, it’s whether you choose to see it is the billion dollar question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:27 AM
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I don’t think so. Your math is so incorrect. The average guy will go months probably years without getting a date. The above average will actually get a date. The odds from trying to meet a woman, have a conversation, getting to a date are all independent events where the odds are so low they are almost nonexistent. So, the average guy goes dateless for months on end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:11 AM
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I think women confuse average with sub average. Guy has a date = above average. Guy has zero dates in years = average dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:54 AM
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Fine is not good enough. Treating people with respect is the gold standard. The manipulator can’t keep that up with everyone. Eventually he has to treat somebody like shit. It’s totally exhausting to the toxic dude. Does there need to be a grade school class in this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:53 AM
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Still rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:50 AM
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I’m not afraid of rejection. I’m not toxic or abusive. Still get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:47 AM
0

Couldn’t someone tell by how they treat other people? The red flag blindness is incredible!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:45 AM
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They probably aren’t average. Truly average guys can’t get away with that behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:41 AM
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No I do blame both men and women but wanted to point out that women supposedly have a sixth sense for average men that exude no confidence but take no accountability when they choose poorly when they decide to follow through on their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:33 PM
3

I do blame both men and women but we seem to only direct angst at men. Women are to blame as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:31 PM
2

That famous women’s radar again in who women choose to share their beds with. Good job!👏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:08 PM
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It’s that famous women’s radar in choosing men to procreate with. 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:07 PM
1

I hold doors for everyone, unfortunately. I figured out something though, holding doors for people, never got a damn thing. A matter of fact, I can’t remember the last time a woman held a door open for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:01 AM
1

I think you guys need to judging chivalry over basic manners. Women’s internal radars are all messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:05 PM
2

Absolutely not. I’ve never forced onto a woman. I lived in the days of chivalry and respect. The fact that women have eroded chivalry is a conversation for any post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:08 PM
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That’s my point! I shouldn’t have a problem considering that the population has more women than men; however, women have created an environment where dating is almost impossible for most men. It’s brilliant to be honest. It’s like going to a car dealership seeing acres of vehicles and told you can’t buy any of them because YOU specifically cannot purchase them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:51 PM
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Here’s a thought, why don’t women choose better and stop letting bums squirt their seed in them? A woman can supposedly sense confidence, weakness, and strength in a man by looking at a dude but they can’t tell whether or not he’s responsible or he’s a bum? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:05 AM
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The root of the problem is capitalism. Most dudes don’t want to pay for a kid because it’s so damn expensive. How about there being some laws to protect consumers, renters, and homeowners? As long as companies, landlords, and slum lords can charge whatever they want for goods, services, and housing then the problem of child support would exist, persist, and get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:59 AM
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Obviously, women have created scarcity where none exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:23 AM
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I’m kinda speechless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:12 PM
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I’m in my fifties and looking for women from 47 to 57
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:14 PM
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I’m an older dude. The idea that dudes aren’t nice, kind, caring, funny, improving their appearance, and being attractive to women is just funny to me. When I’m out; the only slobs that I see are the ones that are already in relationships. I don’t even go to the grocery store without being dressed nice and hygiene on point. The mental drain of being on point 100% of the time AND being invisible to women is absolutely demoralizing. This is by far the worst time in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:47 PM
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Most men do put the effort in, like my self, what’s the result? Nothing. Zero interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:04 AM
0

It really depends on the age of the woman. Before thirty, women are absolutely engaged in the dating process. After forty, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:38 PM
1

I agree that dude isn’t on this sub or Reddit for that matter. Nobody on Reddit is a Chad. No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:06 AM
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One dating app is a monopoly. It would be broken up by federal law.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:01 AM
0

Absolutely! I have told women friends about some POS narcissist that they were dating, dismissed by her, and I was V&V to be correct at a time later. On the side of the coin, I stopped having that conversation and just let it play out. They never listened anyway and just wasted my energy, mental health, and humanity. It’s been 10227 days without an incident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:55 AM
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The definition of desirable men has been skewed over the years. This is the core of the problem. Entertainment and social media bear some of the responsibility for this. Women injest a lot of this content. Hallmark channel makes money off of women and the same story over and over - independently wealthy, young, tall, good looking single dude moves to some small town looking to start a bed and breakfast or a hotel falls in love with the attractive woman in the town who can’t seem to find a date o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:08 AM
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Women also have the same resources as men do. Not sure that this is the same argument
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:01 AM
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Older women have either just checked out of the dating scene altogether or just order up a dude online when they want to get laid. So, they are on for about 4 hours maximum that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:07 AM
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People that haven’t seen me in decades say that I look the same. I keep up my physique but definitely not want I wanted to hear. I’m still the average schmo that didn’t age into a silver fox.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:51 AM
2

Pew research is never contacted me about dating. I don’t know who is answering these studies!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:44 AM
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Average men were always invisible. Totally disagree. Before the apps, you could meet friends of friends, spark a conversation, show off your personality, and bam there’s a spark. Now, she just swipes left and goes for the 20. It wasn’t fool proof before the apps but the average dude had more of a chance. I would’ve never had a girlfriend, gotten laid, gotten married (and divorced) if apps were in existence since the 70’s. It would’ve never had happened. I know because after my divorce, I’ve had …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:42 AM
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I would absolutely love to get rid of all dating apps but the dragon has gotten too big. It’s a billion dollar behemoth that only works for the top 20. It takes decades of malefescence for a billion dollar industry to collapse and I will be dead by then. The only way to take a company down effectively is to take it down within. That takes coordination and organization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:36 AM
0

You have a better shot winning at a casino
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:50 AM
4

The bar is in hell for attractive men because women want them to step over it easily. For the average man, that bar is 850 feet high. Women will put up all kinds of roadblocks and firewalls for the average man to have to get over and through. She figures that if he can get through all of her 9000 checkboxes, he may be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:16 PM
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People should be respectful. Average or not!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:12 PM
0

The 80/20 rule applies to the population of men on OLD. This does not apply to IRL. Most couples met organically and got married before the dumpster fire of OLD. Tea definitely opened my eyes to the 80/20 rule because these are the dudes that women are choosing to be with and yet even after being abused by these guys choose these guys to live rent free in their heads. I guess this is why women are so bitter towards men because they really don’t move on from the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:01 PM
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This is total BS. Dating is easier for the 20% not the 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:07 PM
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The only way this would happen if there was a massive environmental change where testosterone was lowered in men globally. You couldn’t get men to be pickier with women, en masse. Again, it would be the 20% dictating what the other 80% do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:55 AM
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I would take several kicks to the balls if meant having sex🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:47 PM
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Sorry, I wasn’t thinking about hypotheticals in that manner. In particular, I was explaining to a friend (hasn’t been on a dating app in 10 years) that women are not willing to even have a conversation with a dude unless that guy is at least a 9/10 in her dating “criteria.” He doesn’t really understand why I struggle and yet he was able to find a partner within a week 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:25 PM
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Thanks for confirming that. I’ve said multiple times that women today do not mind or care about sharing a married man that is attractive. That logic gets downvoted on most dating subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:56 AM
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Wrong! They handle loneliness better because they know at any nanosecond they can find another dude. They choose to wait for the perfect partner in pictures and then they will swipe right. Until then they just wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:01 PM
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To women, good men are boring. Too many men have been married to have their wives cheat on them because they are bored. Men have seen this happen time and time again. They are just being cautious and that means not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:12 PM
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The best dating advice I’ve seen in a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:38 AM
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That makes sense. I look like fried dog shit in nice clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:29 AM
4

I’ve never had a woman compliment anything I was wearing and my shit is expensive and tasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:55 PM
2

Zero. I’m looking for women in their fifties because I’m in my fifties but none to be found. I did talk to women in their thirties, early forties. Not with any intent but just to talk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:59 PM
1

Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:57 PM
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The fantasy is always better than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:25 AM
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There is some truth to this. Hallmark channel is running Christmas in July movies so women can fantasize about fictional men instead of going out IRL and finding a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:24 AM
6

Dudes want women approach more but haven’t thought it through. More than likely they aren’t choosing you. So, you are just going to be sitting at a bar or restaurant watching women approaching Chad and ignoring you. I don’t know about you but I get ignored and rejected on a daily basis in OLD. I don’t want see that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:46 AM
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Therapy works when you participate in therapy. Most people will talk with a therapist but will avoid the hard work that needs to be done outside of the office. It’s similar to math homework for most people. They’ll go to class but they’d rather have a root canal than do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:29 AM
3

I’ve never blamed a woman for being raped. I don’t condone rape. I’ve never said that or thought it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:31 PM
6

I hear you. I just don’t see the point in Chadfishing. It would actually make me feel worse about myself. I know there are guys out there who are successful, but if I don’t see it, it doesn’t bother me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:20 PM
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I don’t necessarily have an attitude. I know I’ve never done that to a woman. Women have the right to judge however they want. It just sucks to be on the end of that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:13 PM
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That’s probably 100% accurate. You are assumed guilty from the jump and you have to present the case within a reasonable doubt that you are in fact innocent. For a dude, Dating is so fucking backwards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:57 PM
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If defining “getting” is to the point of a first date, it’s entirely too much work to having to be perfect at every stage. It’s exhausting to have perfect pictures, perfect conversation, perfect mood, and perfect vibe. Women have so many choices that they will ghost you for any reason. Since women are different the number of reasons to be ghosted is really limitless. So; if you try to hard, you are ghosted. That’s the average guy’s experience anyway. I imagine if she is really attracted to at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:56 PM
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Age! Age is a mother fucker. I’m in my fifties and I am competing with a very small population of single women. Most women my age seem to just hunker down with their families until the perfect man comes into their lives. I’m far from perfect looks wise. I was definitely a better looking man in my twenties than now, even though I work out more than I ever have. Over the years, I’ve worked on myself and tried different things. I’ve never gone this long without a date/girlfriend/wife. It’s been yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:12 AM
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Northeast United States
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:19 PM
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You have done two things here in this post. First, you are absolutely right in that if any undesirable actually was interested in some dude, he would date her. Comments like no fat chicks, single moms, older women come from a place of frustration not being able to get women. Second, you have justified the comments that men are shamed for having preferences while women are celebrated for the same behavior. If a woman only wants a tall wealthy Chad, she gets comments like, “she’s allowed to choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:58 PM
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That actually worked. My ex:”you said we would go in five vacations this year and we’ve only gone on four. You are the most neglectful, dishonest, disrespectful man I ever met.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:58 PM
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No, I’m saying if you are dating a dude that fishes, as an all day adventure with drinking and not thinking about you for one microsecond with his buddies, you chose to be neglected. If it’s once per year, that’s ok. Once per month, a little worse. Every week, well… you know what you are after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:31 PM
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I was only joking; however, …. you chose that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:12 PM
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But that stabbing in the mouth is so much fun if you are doing the stabbing🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:56 PM
1

That would be ‘Merica. Northeast United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:14 PM
1

I wasted 12 years trying to fix a dead bedroom, abusive, dead end marriage. Also, add three years of therapy after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:14 PM
1

I’m starting to believe that dating after 45 is a fools errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:09 PM
9

What have I cherry-picked? Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:10 PM
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Everyone uses their gut feeling to assess people on a daily basis. That’s the truth. Women have marketed this term, women’s intuition, as this 6th sense of foresight that somehow is much more prescient than men’s intuition. It’s just not the case. If women didn’t do this, I wouldn’t bat an eye at it, it’s just people making mistakes. If you are going to bring attention to a characteristic, you better deliver on that characteristic. More times than not, it fails women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:06 PM
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Agreed. Pick better. Women’s intuition is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:53 AM
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Your example of the guy in Mexico that saved the woman…, chivalrous acts are not seen as attractive anymore. Chivalry is dead at this point. Women really don’t respond to it and let’s face it guys are pissed about it. Case in point, I can’t remember the last time a woman thanked me for holding a door open for her. I really can’t remember the last time that happened. The public response/effect to saving a woman’s life and dying in the process is that he’s a simp. It wouldn’t be my response but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:15 AM
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That advice is good for young men. For older men, 45+, not so much. Older women aren’t just hanging out or really doing much of anything. So, OLD is about the only avenue to meet a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:06 AM
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I guess what surprises me is that women have created an environment of scarcity where none truly exists. The are more women than men in the world and yet there are a crazy amount of single men. I’m speaking in generalities but there shouldn’t be a single man on the planet. But yet here we are. Then, with regard to OLD, women only match with 7% of the men. The chances of dude matching on OLD is in the same order of magnitude as hitting 21 on a blackjack table at a casino. That’s fucking crazy. I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:58 PM
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I am genuinely curious. As a man who has not been on a date in years. I’m literally living in the loneliest era of my life. How did this man get an actual date with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:38 PM
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I have a hard time believing that. To believe that any dude would show up not clean to a date. I think that may have happened once or twice and the internet’s kind of blew up that whole situation into not caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:19 PM
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I’m sorry that’s not true. There are a few subreddits where women are basically incels. They pretty much have disdain for the men that don’t want them AND the women who can get the men that they want. Yeah, they are pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:15 PM
5

Your husband is correct. There may be 50 pictures of me total in existence and I’m over 50 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:24 AM
1

I’ve never heard picture taking explained like that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:23 AM
5

Zero times
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:06 PM
2

Charisma, confidence, and assertiveness are only important if and only if you are considered attractive above all else. You can be an ugly dude and have those qualities and you will be a single confident, charismatic, assertive dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:25 AM
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A lot of truth to what duckman has said
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:15 AM
1

Women don’t care about penis size until they find their ideal dude and he’s got a little D. Then, it becomes a big deal that can’t be overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:22 AM
5

That was my marriage. Just plain horrific
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:15 AM
1

I’m looking for answers. I’m being ignored, at least on OLD. I’m certainly not an unhygienic troll. I most certainly never wanted or raped a woman. Just saying for context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:04 AM
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(Don’t smell, don’t be a raping murderer) Women saying this is the bar that men have to jump over is the source of the disconnect between men and women. Most average guys are not raping murderers that do not stink but are constantly ignored. There is the whole unsaid stuff that’s implied in your statement. You have to be stylish, witty, charismatic, funny,attractive, socially adept, and have to be 100 the whole time. So, there is whole host of characteristics that are in play. When you are being…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:35 AM
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I disagree with you. If you read some of the posts on the foreveralonewomen sub on here, forget that these are women posting and replying, they sound like incel men. They can be bitter sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:25 AM
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That’s not really true. A woman may be attracted to a dude but won’t initiate anything. She will wait for him. If he doesn’t initiate, she just moves on and waits for a dude to initiate. They absolutely know that another dude will come along.I’ve known women exactly like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:26 PM
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Agreed this is is a great post. The older you get, the harder it is to find someone. More people are partnered up and they go out less. That’s something I wish someone would’ve beaten into my head in my thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:51 AM
22

The song seems pretty tame to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:41 PM
1

I can honestly say that I’ve never flipped out and went nuts on some woman that refused me. Now, I will say that’s the end of it. I’m not introducing said woman who refused me so she can hook up with all of my friends and not me. I’m not a fucking matchmaker. At that point, it’s have a nice life. Either way, IMO, rejection, virtual or not is still a rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:21 AM
1

There’s a subtle nuance that you have described. From your perspective, it’s just a superficial choice that doesn’t have any reflection on a dude as a human being. From the dude’s perspective; a woman that I swiped right on did not swipe right on me and did not match with me, so no conversation, no date, no nothing. This is no different than a man approaching a woman and she doesn’t provide a number or snap. The result is the same, no conversation or no date. They are both rejections. From the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:08 PM
2

How’s that not being rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:58 AM
2

In the case of OLD, I really do not know if women are being shallow or not. I go to my inbox and see how empty it is. “WOW, it looks really empty today. Yesterday it was empty, it didn’t look this bad.”🤪OLD you don’t get any feedback and it’s the only game in town for a 50 year old dude. To your point, guys are competing against a woman’s peace. For the most part, IRL is really not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:23 PM
2

I agree with you that women have legal rights to be independent. I disagree that the bar for men to step over is in hell. It’s really higher than it has ever been. Here is the statement that I will agree with: If a woman finds you attractive, then the bar is in hell. If a woman finds you unattractive OR somewhat attractive, then that bar is very high, almost skyscraper high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:42 PM
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I do agree that it’s up to men to change. I don’t agree that’s the same as pre-OLD. It’s definitely worse for the average dude or less than average dude. OLD eliminates the chance for two people to just get to know each other and have chemistry build over time. If a woman doesn’t swipe right on a dude on OLD, that dude is screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:27 AM
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From a guy’s perspective, women really do not have to to engage in the dating process initially. Initially is the key word here. Women hold all of the cards and men have given them this power which has caused a disparity between the genders. Women don’t have to approach at all and not have the same type of emptiness that guys have. Women just need to show up, sit back, and accept or refuse some dudes advances. Most of the time women refuse. OLD is worse and it gets even more dismal as dude’s age…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:14 AM
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There are two independent events happening at the same time. First, OLD is exactly where 80% of the women are choosing 20% of the men. The other is proximity. These couples either met in the neighborhood, trailer park, or social circle. If she can get acceptance from her circle, then she will date a dude that might be on the lower side of the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:59 PM
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I respectfully disagree. Being a fifty year old man, I don’t even walk around my neighborhood without having taking shower and put effort in how I look. I workout 3 to 4 days per week. When I do go out, there aren’t any 50 year old women out and about- plenty of 20 and 30 year old women. 50 year old women typically stay home and use OLD. I respect choice. They aren’t choosing me. It isn’t because of my career or hobbies. Until some woman messages me and says, “I swiped left on you because of XYZ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:54 PM
1

😒
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:25 PM
1

50s are way worse than 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:52 PM
2

Younger men do not let shit go. A distinguished man like myself does not care if some dude touches my car. It’s a sign of maturity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:15 AM
1

I would definitely want to have a kid if I were a woman tomorrow. No woman has ever wanted to have my child so it would be an experience that I never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:12 AM
2

I’m too coked up and drunk to read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:58 PM
3

If you are bad at it, it’s the most probable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:54 PM
3

I think what OP has not conveyed is the iterative process of being confident, still fail, rinse and repeat. Especially after failing multiple times you are still expected to be confident. Human relationships are counterintuitive in that regard. If you were taking classes over and over again and failed every test you would start to get sour on the entire process. Eventually, you may think college isn’t right for you which is a breaking of confidence and consensus would say that’s understandable. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:53 PM
8

You can also miss 100% of the shots that you do take!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:47 PM
2

OLD has definitely reduced the amount of female simps. Before OLD, you had women cooking, cleaning, buying stuff for a dude, etc… that she wanted to get busy with. Now, she just goes to OLD and chooses one of the 700 schmoes in her inbox. She may choose a couple of them; one for dating and the other as the simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:53 PM
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You are correct about that. Chris Hemsworth is not a simp for any woman. There is nothing worse than being the boyfriend for a woman without boyfriend benefits. Been there, done that. Never again. I blame TV for most of this behavior because dramas and comedies have men and women being friends and because of that friendship they start screwing. That hardly ever happens. She is not waiting around for some simp when she can go on OLD and pick one of the 600 dudes in her inbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:49 PM
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That’s decent. Most people have problems with numbers whether it’s weight, height, etc… People shut down over seeing a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:30 PM
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Women fucking hate me. At least, OLD tells me that. I am the shit that turd’s shit out. Women describe me as a shit sandwich with a bunghole, corn dipping sauce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:13 AM
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Truth! I made my money through smart, educated decisions. This does not matter anymore, whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:06 AM
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Plenty of google hits on the topic say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:10 PM
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This could be a political post in disguise. Most conservative men use Androids to stick it to woke Apple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:29 AM
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⬆️ This!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:19 AM
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Just a thought, by not admitting it and stating some absurdly low standards for dating them provides one thing, hope. In reality for most men, it’s false hope. That’s why it’s so frustrating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:44 PM
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Correction: you can be a tall, broke guy and get women. A tall, broke, attractive guy- that’s easy street. A broke, short dude- you better get three jobs and a side hustle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:30 AM
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Absolutely correct! The average dude is just that, average. The deeper issue that the average guy has is that there is nothing he can do to get the desired woman, nothing! When a woman chooses a dude that’s tall, he can’t change his height. Also, the average dude can’t just add 9 zeroes to his bank account overnight and become one of the 1%. Women then say it’s not about height or bank account it’s about being a decent human being with high EQ and if you do that then women will flock to you like…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:18 AM
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For adults 50+, there is not much beyond OLD. It’s not like 50+ women are clubbing on Saturday night.😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:31 PM
1

Right here. In my fifties, dating is a desert 🌵
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:28 PM
2

There is a fine line befriending women and finding a partner within that circle. You run the risk of being a simp. while the women in that circle are willing to be your friend, it’s a different story to escalate any friend to a romantic partner. You get that effect where if one of the women doesn’t want you in that way, none of them will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:19 AM
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Yeah! That’s the definition of bum that I thought you were referring to. I think you missed one more characteristic: Blames their entire situation(lack thereof) on a minority of the population or the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:24 PM
2

I definitely see bums with women everyday. Even in my own fucked up social circle in FB. I have friends that have ended up in their 50’s with such trashy dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:16 PM
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I am in my 50s. I don’t do shit like that anymore and haven’t for a long time. We are either friends for decades or we are intimate. There is no in-between and I’m not looking to make new friends. It definitely exists whether anybody admits it or not. There are women that are in my friendzone. I’m not fucking those women no matter what; however, I’m not hanging out with them either in any situation that could be misconstrued.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:39 PM
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“The friendzone doesn’t exist.” This is exactly why this topic is always debated. It’s the denial that it doesn’t exist. For guys, it’s tangible and when you finally realize you’re in it it’s heartbreaking. Women don’t experience it as much as guys do. So, women sit back and say I didn’t lead him on and he could’ve bailed at any time. Of course, my suggestion to women is any dude that you have friendzoned, stop doing date-like activities with the dude and always be with a group of friends with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:24 AM
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If it was about resources anymore, I would have a constant stream of women in my life. Outside of women I’m friends with, let me count how many women I’m dating, 🤔, oh yeah, Zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:20 AM
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Pussyflation is real. The average woman gets thousands of dudes chasing her. So, in her mind she must be hot. It takes her from a 3 to an 8 in her mind. Meanwhile Dflation happens with men. The “five” guy is a one or two because he gets zero attention anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:15 AM
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For the record, I didn’t explicitly say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:11 PM
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You have to troll one of the forever alone subs on here to see women really look inward and say “maybe I’m the problem.” When 95% of women get 1000s of matches on OLD, women will assume that they aren’t the problem due to the amount of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:38 AM
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They don’t want a shitty husband, but when they get it, they just think that’s the way it is. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Women still put themselves in this situation. The only explanation that I can think of is that women are motivated by attention whether it’s bad or good. If a dude treats people like shit he’s definitely not going to make any exception for any woman, at least not permanently
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:23 PM
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😒. “I was in the pickup community.” Now you are on Reddit. I’ve approached a lot of women myself. I lived through the 80’s and 90’s - that’s when cold-approaching women was the only way you were meeting women. I’ve definitely had my share of rejection, dusted myself off, and kept cold-approaching. This is how I know most of the time you will be a simp if you are showing empathy and are considered beta. Treating people like crap is what most women consider confident. What these women fail to real…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:08 PM
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I’m thinking you are a woman, not a man. “I have men in my life…” - no guy speaks like this at all. I don’t care if you are a man or a woman. Here’s the point, though. You can do all of the things that you are saying men should do and still be repeatedly shunned by women. The best case scenario is that you become a simp and won’t be a romantic partner. This is the exact reason guys don’t or won’t do most of things that you listed. Of course there are no guarantees. If you were a man you would ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:51 PM
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The problem isn’t talking to women. You can talk to women all day. If most women do not see you as a romantic partner, it’s not going to happen. That’s the difficult part, the transition from a glancing interest to a romantic partner. You just end up being a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:49 PM
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I would say you have to train most men. The men you don’t have to train are also pushed aside. A guy that is seen to have his shit together doesn’t necessarily need a woman except for companionship is also a least desirable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:41 PM
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From an OLD perspective, the fact that women chase 20% of the men and leave the other 80%, is a problem. It’s a problem that OLD sites love. It inspires desperation, loneliness, and depression. These emotions may drive a dude to spend money. OLD loves that. From an IRL perspective, women are still chasing that perfect dude. It seems that women are less likely to compromise today. So, if you go to a speed dating event, one or two dudes get interest from women. All of the others are screwed. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:06 PM
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I had that apartment. It had a bed, a box of pasta, and toothbrush. No couch, TV, or shower curtain. I only ate and slept there. I met a lot of women in my 20’s, because they were out. Now, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:09 AM
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Can you give me an example where this dude’s confidence was unabashed? My masculinity isn’t constantly challenged on a daily basis where I get into physical fights when somebody takes the last Dr. Pepper out of the convenience store. I have a career and I’m confident in that. I don’t let people, companies get anything over on me. I don’t walk around sheepishly through crowds. I’m the first to tell somebody fuck off if I’m being disrespected. I’m truly trying to understand this. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:23 PM
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The defense of this behavior/phenomenon is mind blowing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:44 PM
3

You figure the man who has achieved certain milestones in his life: success, education, family, would be attractive. Certainly not the dude who needs an alibi for the regular stop for the police. Go figure🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:23 PM
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Here’s another. I know a guy that I hung out with when I was a teenager, pretty decent guy back then. 25 years later, I talk to him over drinks. He has multiple charges against women. He beats them up, throws them down, demeans them. He’s been married three times. He tells me, “they piss me off and I just want to punch.” His side girlfriend shows up at the place at the bar with a black eye and a busted lip. The bruising aside she was very attractive. Probably a solid 8. His wife, he showed me pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:56 PM
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I still don’t understand that. Being assertive and confident in your daily life, such as, career mobility and standing up to the daily stresses of making sure that you get the better seat at a restaurant. This is all boring. Being assertive and confident by robbing an old lady, punching somebody in the face because they look at you wrong, or running from the cops because you just bought H and want to party with a friend, this is exciting? Am I missing something here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:45 PM
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The dating app filtering is the problem. Back in the day (like 80’s), you did not have this exacting filtering that goes on today. Women will totally justify filtering dudes based on the large number of potential suitors. They never wonder about the potential mates that they just filtered out because they have hundreds of choices. I’m guessing that women never think to themselves, “I just filtered out Mr.Right and I’m going out with Mr. Wrong.” Dating is a human interaction construct and was nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:00 AM
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“Every pot has a lid.”🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:31 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:40 PM
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In your fifties, women do not even care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:17 PM
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One match per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:14 PM
4

I don’t see myself in any of these options 1-6. I have zero options and none of these categories describe me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:23 PM
2

Love is a multi-faceted emotion. There are different types of love. There is a connection with familial love that sets the stage for romantic love. Love for your family is the first time you experience love. If you have romantic love without familial love there will always be a part of you that’s poisoned by this. I absolutely experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:34 PM
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That’s partially correct for me. I’m romantically lonely but also I have no family. That’s how the members of my family roll. If you don’t have something they want, they just cut you out. So, familial loneliness, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:17 PM
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Even family will ditch you. There is absolutely zero unconditional love in my family. Zero
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:04 PM
5

You are absolutely correct. Since this is men hating men post, I left my comments within that scope.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:35 PM
1

A lot of virgins! This is a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:10 PM
4

One thing that you are missing is the repeated message that men get as boys from their fathers. Depending on your father; it’s being a decent man and a provider life will reward you with a house and a beautiful wife. That’s the story that we get as boys. So, you start to work hard, go to college, get the job that makes great bank. You start to understand that relationships are gives and takes, lifting each other up in a relationship is how both people become better and less selfish, and somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:24 PM
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Women: “Don’t approach me when: I’m shopping, driving, at a restaurant, with my friends, with your friends, swimming, reading, breathing, or any other time in between” Women in the very next sentence:”why don’t guys approach anymore? Why don’t guys shoot their shot?” Well women got what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:05 PM
1

Sounds true to me. The guy on the date is competing with at least 4 other guys. The woman on the date is only competing with herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:57 PM
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Women only want hot dudes to approach them and hot dudes haven’t stopped. They got exactly what they wanted because if they couldn’t have a hot dude approach then they didn’t want any dude approaching. Period!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:26 PM
0

I’ve never liked makeup on women. Unless she wakes up before you do and starts layering, that’s not who you are getting on a day-to-day basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:09 PM
0

Here’s the nuance. Fat dude that is tall, not a problem. He will be seen as fun and enjoys life. Fat dude that is short, big insurmountable problem. He will be the loneliest dude in his whole zip code. Most women would agree with that. It’s the subtlety of dating that confuses both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:14 PM
1

Unconditional love only applies to pets that become part of your family. Period!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:40 PM
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I think this is a post for young men. If you think being single in your twenties and thirties is a confidence killer, try being fifty and being single. Nobody wants your old ass at all. Women would rather sit in their houses, with their families and grandkids, than go out with my old ass. Don’t be too in shape, they don’t want that. Losing hair, you are done. You have to be attractive enough to get her to leave her comfortable lifestyle for you. It’s absolutely brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:29 AM
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I see your point but it’s kind of tone-deaf. My experience with dating is like the cereal aisle at the grocery store where there are zero boxes of cereal on the shelf every day and every year. Your experience is that the shelves are overflowing with cereal. There is so much cereal you can barely walk down the aisle. Yeah there are busted up boxes, out-of-date, crushed, split open, and just plain up stale. However, if you are patient, the box you want is there if you take the time to look. I’d ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:10 AM
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Most of the dudes that women date wouldn’t protect them anyway. Any dude that jokes about the bear attack and him busting her knees so he can run away, isn’t joking. He’s telling you exactly who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:53 PM
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Height>face>>>>>everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:56 PM
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Women will absolutely leave a dude if she has leveled up in any way. It could be financially, emotionally, or physically. They chase Chad even after being married. If they feel like anything they have done gets them to closer to Chad they will bounce. They need resources to bounce so it makes total sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:33 PM
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This is not a good strategy at all. It sounds good on paper. I agree that it should be. From a guys perspective, it hardly ever works, and you just become a simp. I’ve had experience with this and the juice really wasn’t worth the squeeze. I wasted so much time with one girl through the friend angle that I dismissed legitimate relationships that I could’ve had. So much regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:32 PM
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You would think but women also make a pretty good salary. Since OLD makes ordering a mate like ordering a pizza, who orders a pizza from the ok place down the street that does an ok job?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:48 AM
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170k here in an area where 75k is the median family salary. Can’t get a date at all. It really doesn’t matter that much how much a dude makes unless there is power that goes along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:00 AM
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There are 800000 single men in the United States. Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:11 PM
1

I think the way OP presented his ranges is futile. Nobody really gives a shit about men. If he did 20/80 rule with women, essentially that 20% of women struggle while the other 80% have relationships. Took that information and overlayed that onto the men ranges. Now you’ve got something interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:51 PM
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Just saying, your boyfriend’s friends sound like simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:38 PM
6

Most women swear off of OLD because Chad is already taken or Chad is not into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:05 AM
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I agree that there is no proof. The only proof I have is experience. I’ve definitely been dumped in the past pretty quickly by a woman and I would consider myself a 6 to a 7 in my youth. That some woman put up with years of abuse from a dude that her and her friend were both fawning over. That dude worked at fast food for 20 hours/week, violent, and small-minded. They could not get enough of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:17 PM
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Nobody loses sleep over some dude that can’t get a date. There is definitely a lack of misunderstanding because everybody thinks, “every pot has a lid or he will find his somebody.” I hate both sayings. Not everybody finds someone. It’s pretty delusional and depressing simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 08:41 PM
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Unfortunately, most men have been a simp for some woman they have been attracted to and meanwhile she’s intimate with a dude that treats her like garbage. That’s where it’s coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:24 PM
2

When a guy says he’s nice, she hears,”My simp😀!” Then she hunts for the dude that’s going to treat her like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:21 PM
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Having a social circle is half of it. Having a social circle that intersects other social circles is important. If you have a small social circle of four couples and you will not work for you 90% of the time. I can honestly say that some social circles did not work for me at all because they were disjoint. I had to branch out and gravitate towards other circles. At my age today, social circles are small and disjointed. In my fifties, dating is very difficult because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:30 PM
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First, it sounds like you were a simp like many men have been, including myself. Second, attractive men have zero incentive to do anything redeeming or philanthropic. There always thinking about their next woman/conquest. Getting these guys to change is a waste of a woman’s time and they are more than willing to get treated like shit to keep Chad in their lives. He can steal her car, rob a bank, and crash that shit into a police station and she we continue to keep making excuses for him. Women l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:47 PM
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There has to be a little seed of attraction for humor to work. You are not jestering your troll self into a woman’s bed with a few jokes and one-liners. Fact!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:08 PM
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All of my pictures have me at some place; whether it’s a lake, restaurant, festival, etc… Definitely pictures where a woman can imagine doing something with me and she can be there. Basically, she gets a picture of what it is like to be in my orbit. This advice you gave can be thrown right out the window for anybody over 40 years old. I’m 54 and been single 7 years. I’ve done it all. Touched grass, been on OLD, took dance lessons, pottery, running and hiking clubs. It’s all BS. You are either in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:55 AM
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I have spent multiple hours and days worth of hours tweaking photos, writing sincere bios, and making sure that it’s a complete well written profile. Nothing. That’s the part that literally pisses me off. Of course, the epiphany came when I thought to myself that I’m old, short, and ugly AF! I’m still pissed but I’ve accepted the fact that IRL and OLD just sucks for old dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:15 AM
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Dating shouldn’t be as difficult as cracking the 3-body problem. People used to want to get to know one another. OLD throws that dynamic out the window. Women order up their special man like ordering a pizza online. OLD leaves average people out in the cold. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:46 PM
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I don’t ever look up to any man. I would be higher on said pecking order if I had more leg bone. So, nothing to look up to with some Chad that lives in grandmommy’s basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:39 AM
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As an old dude in his fifties that has actually had experience with women, there is a reason that older dudes will prefer younger women. It is not due to finding that their older wife, for the most part, unattractive. It is due to her not finding him attractive. Escalation occurs in a marriage and the little things that he used to do for her don’t mean shit after years and years. You can’t just bring a flower home after 10 years of marriage, your fat ass better bring home a bouquet. You can’t ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 12:21 AM
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You can have a number of women as friends and hang out with them. Collaboratively, if one doesn’t want you they will all eventually not want you. The one that is attracted to you will be disswayed by the other women and then she will lose interest in you as well. It’s very rare for the one woman to stand her ground for the dude that the rest aren’t interested in. Once you are friend zoned by the group, then you are done. The single friend introductions dry up and if you stay too long in that cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:08 PM
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That’s not the entire thought that women think. Women want ATTRACTIVE men to approach them! They will still complain if the average dude approaches them. Of course, women have created this environment after going on social media and saying it’s not cool to approach them in any of the 600 situations they have outlined. What do they fucking expect? Again, all these rules they set go out the door if you are attractive. I don’t listen to any of that shit anyway. As a 50-year old dude, in my area the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:40 PM
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I’ve never litigated myself into a woman’s bedroom. You are right that you will never win the conversation to win her over. She either likes you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:08 PM
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I never said women made sense. I’ve been in the situation where I’m trying to help a buddy out and literally she said those exact words to me. This has happened a few times over my life. I tell my friends to not say shit about me unless she specifically asks. 99.5% of the time they don’t ask shit about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:49 PM
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This isn’t true in all cases. First, if your friends have to vouch for you, then the woman will think, “he can’t be that great, his friends HAVE to vouch for him.” So, you have already lost. Second, there isn’t always trust in a social circle. Your buddies may be trying to hook up with the same woman that you are. They will spend just as much time undercutting your chances with the woman as they spend trying to hook up with the woman. Social circles do not always work. Sometimes, you are better …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:41 PM
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Dude, you seem pretty angry for a person in loving relationship. Maybe I opened your eyes to being a simp. I was pretty pissed when I finally figured it out. We’ve all been there. Just learn from your mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:01 PM
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Well if this is wrong, I don’t wanna be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:27 PM
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If you are so well-loved, what the hell are you doing wasting away on Reddit? I can tell you why I’m on here is because I’ve nothing else going on. No, I’ve been simped and those are my experiences with women. That actually happened to me! Don’t tell me that I’m just regurgitating what someone else has told me!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:21 PM
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WTF! A little angry today? I’m just telling the truth. Are you a simp and can’t/won’t get out of it? It’s cool. We have all been simped at some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:13 PM
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Chad doesn’t feel romance at all. When he’s with one woman, he’s really thinking about the other 100 women he could be banging. On the flip side, the average schmo holds onto the one crush that he has because it’s the only woman in his life. The probability of being simped at this point is very high. So, schmo becomes the boyfriend without any boyfriend benefits. Schmo takes her out to dinner, drinks, fun, and drops her off. Meanwhile while Schmo is reeling from the “great date” he thinks he had…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:09 PM
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When you have hundreds of matches and sometimes thousands of matches, they know dating is a woman’s game. So, they can ask for anything for a first date because if you don’t want to do it, they are 999 other dudes that might. Some ways guys are the problem with regards to this. They swipe right with every creature that has a snatch, it has inflated all of their egos. They all think they are OF worthy. I can’t blame them. If I opened Bumble and I had 2 women interested in me, I would think I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:37 PM
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I’m not doing anything different unless you got Salma Hayek pussy. I’ve spent all my life improving, 99.2% of the women have nothing to teach me. Fact!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:52 PM
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Women sometimes cause their own pain. Women desire some tall, fat, small D, pregnant dude that makes the woman look small. However; in order to for a dude to get a god damn boner, blood has to pump to the D! The dude that has milk-filled titties and a stomach filled with 100 lbs of fat can’t do that so easily. That blood has to squeeze through all that biscuit grease, cheddar cheese, and wing sauce to get to the D. It’s like trying to get water to flow through a kinked hose. People are just fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:47 AM
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The hero is never rewarded. You will go from hero to zero in thirty seconds.Funny, women constantly ask where chivalry has gone🤔.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:57 PM
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I was just pointing out the statistics, that’s all. Now, what I don’t understand is, how is dating a shorter man settling and unsuitable? That’s the part I don’t understand. Most tall dudes couldn’t hold a candle to the personal growth and achievements I’ve made in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:18 PM
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Just pointing out the obvious; you were probably out there for years because you probably filtered out 86% of the men based on height. Most tall dudes have multiple options. They can be absolutely shitty people and get away with it and still fulfill their needs. Most average dudes cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:51 AM
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“If you have a good job, stable income, treat everyone with respect, an education, and a home then you will be able to marry a good woman.” This is what I was told as a young man. First off it’s a fucking lie. Second, younger women may care about these things but older women, no. Older women don’t give a fuck about what you have done with your life and what you have. It’s all about height and face. You can live behind a dumpster and smell like piss and shit as long as you are good looking and 6’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:09 PM
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You live in a different universe than I do. I want to be returned to the universe I belong to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:17 PM
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Most of the time, you not only get friendzoned by the woman but also by the woman’s immediate social circle. If her friends were attracted to you, she will outline your shortcomings to her friends, and that will get you completely friendzoned by the circle. Entertainment has spread the myth that you can move from one woman to another in a circle. Shows like Friends and How I met your mother are not realistic in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:34 AM
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No chicks with horses! How can I compete with a horse!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:10 AM
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Truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:25 PM
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I’ve never abused a woman. Period. It would be nice though to have an attractive woman give me a chance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:01 PM
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On another note, I’ve had very satisfying and rewarding relationships with the socks in my sock drawer🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:48 PM
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I rank this quote with, “Every pot has a lid.” Both are condescending AF! To a certain extent attractiveness is subjective-ish. Guaranteed that the woman is probably a 3 or 4. Woman are really generous when rating another woman she’s not in competition with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:57 AM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:36 PM
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My parents were the epitome of what not to do in a marriage. I have zero skills in flirting. I fell into the same trap my parents did during their marriage. The only blessing was divorce. Life sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:35 PM
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He’s fucking really wrong. That’s why he’s not popular
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:03 AM
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I meet women all of the time too. They smile and talk to me when I talk to them and it all ends when I pay the bill with a big fat tip.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:59 AM
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There is zero data to support any of this except his word. His word is bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:58 AM
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😒
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:57 AM
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I see people buying stuff all of the time how can there be poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:55 AM
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Most women my age do not date at all. If you don’t hook up, married, children, and gave Hallmark happiness by 30, it’s over
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:45 AM
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😒😒😒
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:47 AM
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Women rarely say exactly what they mean. Here is the translation, “a good man that is tall, attractive, wealthy, cultured, and is totally dedicated to me 100% is rare.”😜
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:42 AM
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I approach but no go. I’ve approached more than 100 women in six years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:40 PM
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Very informative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:40 AM
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Hobbies work for dating if you are already good at the hobby and you are attractive. I may like dancing and love to dance but if I can’t dance and I’m not attractive I will be going home by myself every time. EVERY TIME!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:07 PM
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They go after the top 20% even in their 40s and 50s!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:33 PM
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You are right. It’s my opinion. Businesses have ebbs and flows. Right now, it’s Spring and people have other things to do. When Winter hits and people really don’t want to go outside or leave their homes, they will turn to them again to meet people. They will do this because the option exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:57 PM
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The easy answer is that women don’t have to be. Women can be approached IRL or they have to be on the apps too long. Men have a different experience men rarely get the go-ahead to approach women IRL and can be on the apps for years without any tangible dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:02 PM
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What exactly am I incorrect/wrong about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:14 PM
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They will go back to the apps. The apps are here to stay. Even though women say they hate the hundreds of matches they get, they love the attention. If they go off of the apps, they won’t get that much attention because Chads aren’t going to get off of the apps either. OLD is a wonderland for Chad, so he’s not coming off of the apps. So, they will go back for the attention and the abuse from Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:45 PM
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😒
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:00 PM
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Some dudes aren’t mad and want revenge. They just want some companionship. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. For most dudes the options are buying an escort or having relationships with a pair of socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:11 AM
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Who are these men that are below average in relationships? Not one person on Reddit has provided proof of this mythical person. Not.One.Time!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:07 AM
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Look I understand the frustration and I’m lonely AF. I would not want that kind of arrangement with a woman. A relationship that may or may not be really consensual for one’s side or the other would end in failure. This why we are at this point now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:56 AM
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I agree with what you are saying to an extent. The guy who dates once every year maybe an abuser to some extent but doesn’t get the opportunity to keep abusing because his sick ass is just average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:30 PM
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Diddy has mad money. The average schmo isn’t pulling like Diddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:54 PM
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It’s usually a Chad who has honed his skills to be a better abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:10 PM
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Are you saying that when a man asks a woman advice, you are friend-zoned, just like a female friend? So, basically stop doing that shit unless you like the FZ.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:09 AM
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