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| 1 | Intelligence can be detected but is not found attractive in videos and live interactionsThe link between looks and IQ is very weak, around .1-.2. The link between school performance and IQ is .6. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/06/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Intelligence can be detected but is not found attractive in videos and live interactionsDo you have particular evidence of parents being selective for intelligence (beyond more intelligent guys being more capable of accruing more resources and making a better case for their potential as provider). There is some evidence that looks never mattered much in parental choices. If intelligence were subject to sexual selection in this way, we'd see a strong preference in parents for high education levels in their children's mate choices and e.g. math geniuses acting as super stimulus, whic… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/06/21 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence can be detected but is not found attractive in videos and live interactionsWhat's your point? | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/06/21 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Intelligence can be detected but is not found attractive in videos and live interactionsThroughout history of modern humans, it was mostly parents choosing mates for their offspring, often for near-term political or economic reasons rather than health, ability or looks; so even though parental choice would count as sexual selection, it does not seem highly directional toward a particular phenotype. So mortality selection did the heavily lifting and still does. Intelligence possibly resulted more specifically from competition as suggested by the social brain hypothesis: https://en.w… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/06/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | This infamous speed dating study with the high physical attractiveness correlation --- MISREAD, it's over boyos.There is a chance that the importance of looks has increased due to social media where looks are important. There also has been a shift toward more fleeting mating contexts like bar dating and online dating where looks may matter more. At high acquaintance level, looks matter less resulting in lower assortative mating. If there are no opportunities to even get to know women, then looks may end up mattering more. But this is speculative. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/06/21 01:59 AM |
| 2 | This infamous speed dating study with the high physical attractiveness correlation --- MISREAD, it's over boyos.The link between lifetime reproductive success and physical attractiveness is for both sexes is very weak, I think about r = 0.1. In this study, unattractive people (of either sex) were more likely to remain virgin, but the effect is so small that all very unattractive men in the sample did have sex. Romantic interest correlates about r = .4 with third-party ratings of looks as indicated by the studies below. This means increasing looks by 1 standard deviation increases one's partners desire by … | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/06/21 05:38 PM |
| 2 | This infamous speed dating study with the high physical attractiveness correlation --- MISREAD, it's over boyos.Assortative mating for looks is a thing, though it isn't overly strong (r = .4). It may be a bit stronger for unattractive individuals. The unattractive are not much less sexually successful, but they rarely get to have sex with highly attractive individuals. | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/06/21 03:08 PM |
| 2 | This infamous speed dating study with the high physical attractiveness correlation --- MISREAD, it's over boyos.While initial attraction is largely about looks, people's individual preferences for looks vary quite a bit. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/06/21 06:31 AM |
| 4 | It's over boyos; the big speed dating study that found a high physical attractiveness correlation with romantic interest put the correlation at..... r=.36.They do not provide a correlation matrix, nor do they break up the "personable" construct. No correlation would be surprising given the mean halo effect for adjustment, social competence and general evaluation is d > .52. Though this might be the missing puzzle piece: High warmth may be a turnoff due to it being a beta/desperation signal: https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/want-catch-ladys-eye-dont-smile-study-says-1c6437381 Hence, strong physical attraction may not necessarily translate into hi… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/06/21 09:44 PM |
| 3 | It's over boyos; the big speed dating study that found a high physical attractiveness correlation with romantic interest put the correlation at..... r=.36.Perceptions of personal warmth could be halo effects of physical attraction and these effects are known to be large. But you are generally right, looks do not matter much, but personality alone likely matters even less due to halo effects. Intrasexual competition appears to matter more than looks for males, primarily in terms of physical intimidation (e.g. muscularity) to the extent that women do not choose much at all. They only seem to choose when they are told to or when there are lots of sui… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/06/21 04:55 PM |
| 8 | Nice guys can finish first; preferences for personality types dependent on cultural contextIn this sample of Asian Americans, where communitarian values are emphasized, narcissists failed to enjoy am advantage over other daters. But the nice guys did enjoy an advantage. This effect could be more genetic than it is cultural. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/06/21 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Below-average attractiveness predicts 1.5-3x higher chances of remaining virgin during early adulthood compared to above-average attractiveness (Haydon et al., 2013)Sub-5 likely. They have no chance dating up very much in short-term dating like online dating. But can get lucky when waiting very long. Then the assortative mating correlation is only .3 or so which is fairly weak. Though maybe assortative mating is stronger for very unattractive people. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-it-takes-for-a-beast-to-find-a-beauty/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/05/21 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Is There an Own-Race Preference in Attractiveness? - Darren Burke, Caroline Nolan, William Gordon Hayward, Robert Russell, Danielle Sulikowski, 2013O8arBBcRVLRHhdMAc1lmTraChgFgsxzgo3e22nMu03Rtz3QfsJODCBK | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/05/21 05:58 AM |
| 8 | Below-average attractiveness predicts 1.5-3x higher chances of remaining virgin during early adulthood compared to above-average attractiveness (Haydon et al., 2013)The raw data seem to be available here, but the public data are incomplete. Not sure they have what you need. https://dataverse.unc.edu/dataverse/addhealth https://www.icpsr.umich.edu/web/ICPSR/studies/21600?archive=ICPSR&q=21600 Unfortunately, the "ever paid for sex" variable was only recorded in Wave 3, but Wave 4 has one covering the past 12 months. https://addhealth.cpc.unc.edu/documentation/codebook-explorer/#/variable_collection/742 https://addhealth.cpc.unc.edu/documentation/codebook-expl… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/04/21 01:53 AM |
| 18 | Below-average attractiveness predicts 1.5-3x higher chances of remaining virgin during early adulthood compared to above-average attractiveness (Haydon et al., 2013)Attendance at religious events once or more per week predicted lower odds of sexual experience only among women. But also no significant sex difference in terms of chi-squared test, at least not with the non-adjusted counts. But overall the share of very unattractive + unattractive increased from 7.5% to around 10.5% by the end of the study. Not a significant increase. Just sampling noise due to low sample size. | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/04/21 10:17 AM |
| 26 | Below-average attractiveness predicts 1.5-3x higher chances of remaining virgin during early adulthood compared to above-average attractiveness (Haydon et al., 2013)This is based on data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent to Adult Health (a.k.a. Add Health) which collected health data of 20,000 U.S. Americans and interviewed them in some intervals starting with 7th- through 12th-graders during the 1994-95 years up until 2008. There are some limitations to this study, mainly it only considers late bloomers who were still virgins by age 18 (N = 2,857, representative of roughly 25% of the population). Secondly, it only tracks up to the age of 2… | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/04/21 08:21 AM |
| 9 | "physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, predicted mating success"There is a preference for bulkiness, muscularity and height (though curvilinear, with the ideal only being slightly toned, not massively built and extremely tall) but there is no particular female preference for facial masculinity (though likely aversion to extreme femininity). There is mixed evidence for female preference to matter much at all. It only seems to matter in a minority of mating contexts in which they can freely choose among many horny guys like in online dating and the first year … | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/04/21 07:33 AM |
| 5 | "physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, predicted mating success"On which grounds are you questioning 11 studies (total N = 948) finding no relation between facial masculinity and mating success? | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/04/21 01:46 AM |
| 5 | "physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, predicted mating success"No, it doesn't make a difference: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/mhmib5/correlation_between_pretty_much_every_superficial/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/21 01:01 PM |
| 4 | Infidelity and number of sexual partners are both under moderate genetic influence and the correlation between these two traits is strong (47%). The resulting genetic correlation between the two traits was .47, so nearly half the genes impacting on infidelity also affect number of sexual partners.O8arBBcRVLRHhdMAc1lmTraChgFgsxzgo3e22nMu03Rtz3QfsJODCBK | /r/BlackPillScience | 23/02/21 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Promiscuity is in fact a good predictor of infidelity. Indeed, promiscuity among females accounted for almost twice as much variance in infidelity (r^2 = .45) as it did for males (r^2 = .25).O8arBBcRVLRHhdMAc1lmTraChgFgsxzgo3e22nMu03Rtz3QfsJODCBK | /r/BlackPillScience | 23/02/21 01:21 AM |
| 5 | "Men rated as less attractive earned 9% less than those with average looks; those who were rated as handsome earned 5% more than those considered to be average. For women, the penalty for being unattractive was 5%..the advantage of being attractive was 4%"As far as I can tell they've controlled for health status by including it as an independent variable in their regression model: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w4518/w4518.pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/10/20 11:39 PM |
| 2 | Why do human and non-human species conceal mating? The cooperation maintenance hypothesisMaybe from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_at_Dawn | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/09/20 02:43 AM |
| 12 | Why do human and non-human species conceal mating? The cooperation maintenance hypothesisThis raises the interesting question why females conceal it less due to their much louder moaning. One explanation would be that males really need to conceal it to avoid getting mogged in flagrante. Whereas females benefit from a stronger male copulating with her, thus getting access to better genes. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/20 01:14 PM |
| 47 | "unattractive people received 175–305 percent longer sentences than attractive people" (Downs & Lyons, 1991)It is interesting how this compares to racial discrepancies, which is only on the order of 6-20%: https://medium.com/@sfard/the-greatest-privilege-we-hardly-talk-about-beauty-7db3f70c1116 (also source of the quote in the title) There are lots of great studies in this post. More on the looks bias in the legal system here: https://www.thelawproject.com.au/insights/attractiveness-bias-in-the-legal-system | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/07/20 05:03 AM |
| 4 | Free mate choice as practiced today is uncommon in human history. Across 190 contemporary hunter-gatherers, arranged marriage was the typical form of mating (Apostolou 2019)How about reading more than just the abstract? anthropological, historical, and phylogenetic evidence indicates that, until recently, the typical form of long-term mating has been arranged marriage (Broude & Greene, 1976; Coontz, 2006; Walker, Hill, Flinn, & Ellsworth, 2011). For instance, a study of 16 historical societies found that arranged marriage was the norm in 15 of them (Apostolou, 2012). Another study examined 190 contemporary hunting and gathering societies, whose way of life reflecte… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/20 03:26 AM |
| 3 | The Facial Appearance of CEOs: Facial Appearance Predicts Leadership Selection. We find clear confirmation that CEOs do look different when compared to citizens or professors. Also, CEOs’ faces at top performing firms all have the same features.Wondering whether this relationship depends on economic growth, i.e. in regions with growth, competence may matter more, but in stagnating regions, superficial facial features may matter more. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/06/20 02:53 AM |
| 28 | Free mate choice as practiced today is uncommon in human history. Across 190 contemporary hunter-gatherers, arranged marriage was the typical form of mating (Apostolou 2019)This might be the reason why some perceive lookism, female choosiness to be increasingly a concern and report being too shy for dating etc. We're adapted to accept the mate choices made by our parents and/or the community. Without that, female choosiness is maximally exposed and we return to mating conditions that even predate hunter-gatherers, i.e. ape or lizard level mating practices with females presenting their buttocks to the bulky males. Though polygamy is still largely prohibited, so inst… | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/05/20 01:03 AM |
| 7 | Damaging genes reduce reproductive success in males much more than in females, mediated by cognitive/behavioral traits rendering these males less likely to find a mate. Darwin's theory of sexual selection accounts for a quarter of all purifying selection acting on human genes. (Gardner et al., 2020)This has virtually nothing to do with physical appearance. It may have as e.g. autism is correlated with minor physical anomalies, which in turn may negatively affect physical attractiveness and then mate choice directly or mediated by social status which is also more difficult to attain with weird looks. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/05/20 11:38 AM |
| 39 | Damaging genes reduce reproductive success in males much more than in females, mediated by cognitive/behavioral traits rendering these males less likely to find a mate. Darwin's theory of sexual selection accounts for a quarter of all purifying selection acting on human genes. (Gardner et al., 2020)They mention schizophrenia, autism, attention deficit hyperactive disorder, and bipolar disorder, as well as lower educational attainment, lower general intelligence and any sort of intellectual disability. See also this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/e2eqym/reproductive_success_of_individuals_with/ Men's reproductive success in these disorders is typically only half of that of women's with the same diagnosed disorder. And that does not even account for the fact that wo… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/05/20 11:44 PM |
| 25 | Among university students aged 28-30, 8.4% of men never have had sex, but only 2% of women, p = 0.003 (Starke 1996)For the general population the figures are possibly just as high by now and for universities they may be even higher today, but there are no good recent data on this available, so one can only guess. One should not forget that women likely overreport their virginity, so it may as well have been 4 liars. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/20 10:29 AM |
| 3 | Among university students aged 28-30, 8.4% of men never have had sex, but only 2% of women, p = 0.003 (Starke 1996)Thanks for copying this. My p-value is two-sided test, btw. The p-value is half as large, so p = 0.0015, with the prior assumption that male virgins are more common which is a near certain assumption anyhow. With sample sizes by age: 8.4% = 26/310 for males and 2% = 4 / 198 for females. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/04/20 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Study shows favorable BO ratings were correlated with favorable ratings of the corresponding male facesYeah, that would have been a very obvious mistake to make. Another conceivable pathway would be ugliness -> social exclusion -> stress/disease/BO. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/04/20 11:11 PM |
| 3 | Study shows favorable BO ratings were correlated with favorable ratings of the corresponding male facesIt's likely both. However, links between looks and health are known to be weak, whereas the halo effect, i.e. the rater bias due to looks, is known to be strong. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/04/20 12:16 PM |
| 1 | PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Due to the increased attention and scrutiny of this subreddit we have decided to up our mod team, be inclusive, and make some changesWe have only one one white male, two white people in total, and the rest of us are ethnic. We are inclusive and accepting of all races. That's a joke, right? | /r/Chadfish | 24/06/19 01:08 AM |
| 1 | This sub has the potential to grow, and the potential to devalue and discredit the entire tinder app and hookup culture as we know it 👍Also nobody will believe it as it is so easy to fabricate a bunch of screen caps | /r/Chadfish | 22/06/19 12:29 PM |
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