Gigafrost Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
2	How to compare a man being forced to be a father to a woman being forced to be a mother successfully. Warning In some cases, a father might continue to be held responsible for financially supporting his biological child even after he gives up his paternal rights. For example, if the mother must seek governmental assistance in order to support the child, a judge has the authority to terminate parental rights. He can still require the father to pay child support until the child reaches adulthood. This results in the father still being financially responsible for the child without having any visita…	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 09:28 PM
1	I am a feminist, but not a butthurt feminist, AMA. Actually, I just wanted to cross the fence and chat about your concerns. "Ladies Nights" refers to bars charging differently based on gender. You're mistaking that with "ladies' night out".	/r/MensRights	13/01/12 12:40 AM
1	Should Men Have the Right to Financial Abortions? First sentence: implicit contract, indicating that a contract (a legal construct) is implied. In other words, the government automatically recognizes a contract as having been formed by the results of the actions. Thus their argument really is "men should not have the right to financial abortion because the government doesn't recognize that right." Or, more succinctly, "it's shouldn't be legal because it's not legal." It's a completely irrelevant circular argument.	/r/MensRights	21/10/11 09:46 PM
2	Only women should help in the potty. Dads might be predators. Probably better to dig up information on which preschool is agreeing with and instituting her sexist ideas. Information on her would be useless outside of vigilante harassment (and more harmful to our cause) but protesting the misandric business shouldn't be inappropriate.	/r/MensRights	20/10/11 06:09 PM
4	FML - "Today, I noticed a young child wandering out onto a busy street"... r/MR can pretty well guess the rest. Only works if the police get to you before the parents do otherwise you're back to square one.	/r/MensRights	01/09/11 06:28 PM
7	Standing Up for Due Process on Campus = "Sticking Up for Pensises Everywhere?" I think we're demanding that colleges treat both the same. Right now they're not. The big difference? When "shit gets broken in dorms, drunk kids write things on walls, and party rooms get drenched in beer", there's physical evidence indicating proof of crime... shit broken, walls writtened, and rooms drenched. (Furthermore, even if you don't have the culprit, the resident who was supposed to be in charge of said shit/wall/rug could be liable for creating that situation.) Or do colleges treat th…	/r/MensRights	30/08/11 11:07 PM
3	If men who get women pregnant without their consent are reproductive abusers, surely women who get pregnant without the explicit consent of the men should be called the same? That's 0.0020290835%. To help put in context... unless my math is horrible, it's significantly less than the risk of driving in Australia in 2009 (around 0.007%) or, estimating that females are half the population, the risk of driving while female in Australia in 2009 (around 0.0037%). I didn't even attempt to find the total driving population nor the percentage of men to women driving or anything, both of which would probably increase that risk very, very fast. Sources for stats via quick Googl…	/r/MensRights	24/08/11 11:47 PM
1	Credit where credit is due: Slate's DoubleX, feminist podcast has a very fair and even-handed treatment of the problem of false accusations (about 16m30s into the podcast) And often all third wave feminism changes is the why... it's no longer an inherent trait of men but rather it's our gender role. Of course you'll get some who will insist that's not the case (they're not "one of those man-haters") while obviously believing that past feminism did the right stuff for the right reason... or maybe at a minimum that it didn't do stuff that's so horrifically atrocious. Really, it's still man-hating, but toned down just enough where an individual uninterested in critic…	/r/MensRights	03/08/11 10:54 PM
2	How does mensrights feel about transgendered people, transmen, transwomen, the genderless and so on? (Btw, Was this linked to from some radical trans reddit or something? looks like moderation took a 180 degree turn just now.) Naturally.	/r/MensRights	18/07/11 07:09 PM
1	Why don't Feminists care about or even mention the fact that 99% of the homeless people that one sees on a daily basis are male? Usually, you're not doing it to convince him and/or make friends with the person you're responding to. You're doing it for silent lurkers sitting on the fence about the issue.	/r/MensRights	27/06/11 06:45 PM
1	Is it just me or is 2X taking a steady nose-dive into oblivion. "Committing the act" isn't 100% of the blame but the rapist is 100% responsible for that part of it.	/r/MensRights	10/06/11 06:33 PM
6	R/Feminisms SECRETLY censoring even relevant, informative, and well-cited comments if the facts contradict feminist dogma. I think deleted comments with no replies might simply disappear. It was something briefly observed here in a recent /r/MensRights topic concerning /r/Feminisms's censorship. In other words, they're probably not doing anything other than their usual bullshit.	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 05:57 PM
1	18 year old woman is charged with falsely reporting a rape. Three years later, a man is found having violently raped at least three women. She's one of them. The three points Celda made, in order: "Video evidence." "DNA" "Admitting she lied." Reddit automatically changed the "2." into a "1." because it saw that as the first in a list and automatically renumbered it. On the other hand, my list in this post were all entered as "1." See the source of both posts for more clarification.	/r/MensRights	18/04/11 08:45 PM
2	Men who are victims of domestic abuse by their female partners can develop psychological trauma, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression and suicidal thoughts, new research finds. RES probably refers to the Reddit Enhancement Suite. It sounds like it's a collection of Greasemonkey scripts for Reddit.	/r/MensRights	15/04/11 06:45 PM
2	How to avoid becoming a new Feminism? I don't think we can. But there's always the possibility we won't be so bad simply because we might not be based on an erroneous assumption like Feminism is/was. The prevalent adaption of the "women are/were oppressed/worse off" opinion-as-a-fact meme is what prevents Feminism's wrongs from being righted. The statement is actually an opinion, but people will state it as if it's a fact. The facts would actually be details that people list that attempt to support this (such as "women couldn't vote…	/r/MensRights	15/04/11 05:39 PM
1	Feminist Quota Queen Sees Personal Attack. wtf. That would probably be this statement: At Haahhhvaad, the ratio is probably worse.	/r/MensRights	13/04/11 10:15 PM
1	Thoughts on this post from 2x? My memory of events is that when Cliffor showed up people were downvoting and complaining about their posts. Then Cliffor seemed to calm down for maybe a couple months, actually making some points that were descent and upvoted... then the crazy was unleashed again within the last couple of weeks? I wouldn't be surprised if those first two steps are somewhat common here but are heavily dependent on whether or not we remember the account names. (And I distinctly remember upvoting comments of Cliff…	/r/MensRights	08/04/11 06:17 PM
1	Danish campaign condemns female on male dating violence A man beaten by a woman can seek recourse from the law, which will then do nothing. If the statistic I've seen floating around here is accurate, that's actually the "good" outcome. The usual outcome is to be arrested or kicked out of your home. (80%)	/r/MensRights	06/04/11 08:56 PM
0	150 years ago women really did not have a chance to become successful professionals. So did feminism have valid points, initially? And where did it go overboard? Or should women have been kept in their place like in the middle ages? So where was/is feminism right? It was right in that women faced social restrictions. Where and why did it go wrong? Pretty much everywhere else: Assuming that this meant women were worse off. (by completely ignoring social restrictions men faced, sometimes the same restrictions.) (and assuming this also meant that men were "in charge") Assuming that women's issues were, therefore, far more important. While there are definitely feminists that are foaming-at-the-mouth man-hating feminazis, the tr…	/r/MensRights	01/04/11 05:46 PM
1	The New Equal Pay Day for Single Young Men Maybe not. The "if I remember correctly" indicates that I don't have a definitive source. However, a brief search gives this page so I guess the answer is yes?	/r/MensRights	21/03/11 04:10 PM
1	The New Equal Pay Day for Single Young Men If I remember correctly, the actual up/down vote numbers are sometimes fudged by the system so that Reddit can hide the votes of spammers without them knowing.	/r/MensRights	18/03/11 06:13 PM
1	Why does it have to be one or the other? It wasn't an argument. Well then, it's time to expand your vocabulary. "Argument" doesn't refer solely to "an oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation". If that's even what you mean. Some other relevant entries from Dictionary.com: a discussion involving differing points of view; debate a process of reasoning; series of reasons a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point an address or composition intended to convince or persuade; persuasive discourse. We exchanged di…	/r/MensRights	08/03/11 11:59 PM
2	Why does it have to be one or the other? What is it you think I am arguing? I don't care what you're arguing. I'm contesting a premise of your argument (paraphrased/modified): They couldn't vote, choose to get divorced, work... how is "women had less rights" an opinion?	/r/MensRights	08/03/11 11:30 PM
6	Why does it have to be one or the other? How is this response even relevant? You say "facing" and I very blatantly said "faced." Past tense. As in you only listed past female hardships without even attempting to list similar past male hardships. I'm point out that it's an intellectually dishonest argument. Never did I argue that women didn't have hardships, but I took great offense by your little trick which belittles and ignores mens' hardships.	/r/MensRights	08/03/11 11:13 PM
3	Why does it have to be one or the other? how is it an opinion? Well, for starters, you cherry-picked things you believe women were disadvantaged in while conveniently ignoring hardships males faced.	/r/MensRights	08/03/11 10:19 PM
-1	Why does it have to be one or the other? Women had less rights. You should really say "I believe women had less rights." It is hardly a conclusive fact that women had less rights ; that's largely a judgment call weighing disadvantages both genders faced.	/r/MensRights	08/03/11 09:40 PM
8	Why does it have to be one or the other? Note that "feminism" is not the same thing as "women's rights". The former includes the later but also subscribes to a class of interpretations of history/reality. Specifically, feminism is "equality with the belief that women have less rights." Men's Rights is currently "men too!" not "only men!" Notice that this contradicts the generic feminist interpretation of history/reality. (Because if men are also unequal, it's no longer necessarily true that women have less rights.) Because of this, fem…	/r/MensRights	08/03/11 09:15 PM
1	Flashback: The Woman's Group Organized to Shame Men Into Being Cannon Fodder I downvoted you because at the time I read your comment, you had one upvote and 0 downvotes. They were probably referring to the link/topic and not their own comment.	/r/MensRights	25/02/11 08:44 PM
2	SF may ban infant circumcision Just don't miss the fact that he said this: (foreskin and rubbers just didn't really worked well in my case) This might suggest that the majority of (if not all of) the sex he had involved the use of condoms. "Attempted to use condoms but gave up and depended on the pill" is a possible interpretation, true, but either way it points out a potentially crucial fact missing from his anecdote, namely whether or not he was actually having sex in a way that might reap the purported benefits of having a…	/r/MensRights	24/02/11 10:14 PM
1	The subplot from a recent episode of House, M.D. made me think Yes, female-on-male violence is very common in anime. The incident in Beck in particular was just... horrifically realistic.	/r/MensRights	01/02/11 04:08 AM
1	Controlling Male Sexuality with Pain: The History of Circumcision in the West Could it just have been your timing? The post date supports the idea that this was posted over the weekend... I've wondered if the average distribution of lurkers in /r/MensRights changes over the weekends. (Or perhaps just less "silent MRA supporters".)	/r/MensRights	01/02/11 12:56 AM
2	A sign at my local shopping mall... the second line seems very unnecessary [self repost from /r/WTF] Even Lord Voldemort doesn't think circumcision is acceptable.	/r/MensRights	31/01/11 10:12 PM
1	The subplot from a recent episode of House, M.D. made me think can't expect much realism from them at any rate. That's really on a show-by-show basis. The Simpsons I wouldn't expect as much adherence to reality, I agree. Some animations can attempt to portray themselves as animated-live-action, though. While I'm mostly only familiar with Japanese animations, I wouldn't assume that other countries' animations are any different. For example, take Beck. It's a simple story about a kid learning to play an instrument, becoming part of a band, etc etc etc. Basica…	/r/MensRights	31/01/11 07:21 PM
1	Women paying more than men for health insurance? Discrimination. Men paying more for life and auto insurance? No problem. Feminists only want rights when it benefits Women, not equality. "Logically true/false" refers to Formal Logic, all statements resolve to true or false. Technically, CloNe817's statement is false even if there is only a single men-only college in the world with only a single student which will be closing down in a few days because that student is graduating. But would that really detract from the overall point being made? In fact, in that hypothetical scenario, I'd definitely be willing to say that "for all intents and purposes, there are no men-only colleges…	/r/MensRights	20/01/11 07:36 PM
4	Women paying more than men for health insurance? Discrimination. Men paying more for life and auto insurance? No problem. Feminists only want rights when it benefits Women, not equality. However, that doesn't make the parent comment's statement that there are no men's colleges any less false. Only if you approach it from a logically "true/false" point of view. Whether or not that's even relevant depends on the sort of argument he's making. Since he was making an inference, for all intents and purposes, the "only 6 real colleges" point does make his statement "less false."	/r/MensRights	20/01/11 06:18 PM
3	Have any of you ever read a sociology textbook? It looks like a "history written by the victors" form of sociology. More to the point, there's no mention of female privilege and thus it instead appears to be a judgment call instead of an honest presentation of the facts. The "victor", of course, was feminism who won by seeing this list: Male Advantage Male Disadvantage Female Advantage Female Disadvantage and managed to convince the world there's 1 and 4 while pretending 2 and 3 aren't there.	/r/MensRights	18/01/11 12:05 AM
4	In This Thread: State your reason for advocating Men's Rights We saw what happened to our fathers. Oh yeah, that's why I'm here at /r/MR. My dad once told me the secret to a successful marriage was admitting you are wrong. A seemingly fine concept... except I noticed he was the only one in the marriage doing that. Really, it was just a self-justification for avoiding confrontation. It's not blatantly a Mens Right situation, but my parents' marriage seems like a prototype for the sort of nightmare situations commonly portrayed here.	/r/MensRights	17/01/11 09:06 PM
2	There is no one Feminism. What I'm talking about is more aptly described along the lines of "accepting" than "explaining." In other words, regardless of what they (an individual) believe (or think they believe) now, my impression is that they became feminists because of good it has done in the past. I'm suggesting this is potentially bad because it is done without critically considering if feminism did a good thing for the wrong reason. I'm saying it actually is bad (from an MR's perspective) because this implicit accept…	/r/MensRights	14/12/10 09:57 PM
0	There is no one Feminism. many who call them selves feminists do not subscribe to the patriarchy ideology. Yet they insist on clinging to the "feminist" title, a common reason I see posted is because of "what feminism has done for women" (presumably under a patriarchy ideology.) This would suggest to me that it is only a matter of degrees of belief in patriarchy, not a binary yes/no. Thus it is my opinion that choosing to label oneself "feminist" is tacit approval of some form of patriarchy theory. (I'm pretty sure the v…	/r/MensRights	14/12/10 08:07 PM
1	Thank you feminism: Female child molester's identity kept secret. Men who are just accused of rape are exposed and shamed before proven guilty. Actually, there is plenty of room for "special privileges" in that definition, namely if the perceived degree of "historical male domination" is far more than the actual.	/r/MensRights	03/12/10 12:52 AM
2	Adopted boy to be returned to bio dad after three years. Justice delayed is justice denied.	/r/MensRights	02/11/10 05:29 PM
1	The Truth About Feminism NAWALT = Not All Women Are Like That. Similar terminology: NAFALT = Not All Feminists Are Like That. People who actually say "not all women are like that" are trying to say something like "you are overgeneralizing". The difference is that "not all women are like that" can come up in conversations where generalization isn't happening. "NAWALT posters" would be the people in the later situation. "No True Scotsman" is a reasoning fallacy. Link to Wikipedia. My understanding of this situation is tha…	/r/MensRights	18/10/10 06:22 PM
1	DEBUNKED: the current anti-"MensRights" rant being upvoted in 2XC, which is full of sourceless myths. I also did not like that individual's method of dismissing the link. It gave me the impression that they did not apply the same level of scrutiny to their original source of information.	/r/MensRights	07/10/10 11:36 PM
1	divorce: What to do before the restraining order comes (presented by an attorney in 2004) You'd think women would understand the horror of being physically abused by someone who has all the power Only if you believe that males are the sole source of domestic violence in a society that is structured to oppress women. I believe that if you assume that both of those are false (but are also widely believed) it describes reality better: Women would only be as likely as men to sympathize with people in a domestic violence victim situation, but we would expect them to be more sympathetic be…	/r/MensRights	07/10/10 06:08 PM
6	Can someone debunk/prove these pay gap myths/facts? I clearly don't know enough about the issue. "Stanford University professor Shelley Correll and colleagues (2007)[89][90][91][92][93] sent out more than 1,200 fictitious résumés to employers in a large Northeastern city, and found that female applicants with children were significantly less likely to get hired and if hired would be paid a lower salary than male applicants with children." If the first cite on Wikipedia is to be trusted, this paragraph is a bit misleading. The paragraph can give the impression that hiring and salary were mea…	/r/MensRights	17/09/10 10:51 PM
3	Need some help, I dodged the marriage bullet, but worried that I may have thrown my happiness away. Where is there a difference in this story? Per the MensRights standard beliefs, she will have the support of "the system," where-as op's fear is that "the system" will enable the abuse.	/r/MensRights	13/09/10 08:29 PM
6	Fourteen Years in Jail on Alimony Contempt Charges Justice delayed is justice denied.	/r/MensRights	10/09/10 05:21 PM
2	One newborn screamed during his circumcision with such intensity that his stomach ruptured, requiring emergency surgery. Another developed heart failure and died. Still another died from a bleeding disorder. Because they were growing in sideways.	/r/MensRights	01/09/10 06:11 PM