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Someone who gets no partner or only through difficult long strings of rejections. Interesting. And what do you propose? Women being more open to sex with men they barely know? I'm not sure you're concerned by this post. You made a debate post. Were you not prepared to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:55 PM
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Relationships are not necessarily to form families. Disagreed. A relationship has two ways it can go: 1) marriage and family, and 2) breakup. And the latter is a failure. They are "women's priorities", priorities being investing time in her, being exclusive to her, being romantic to her, spending non sexual time with her, ect... which a man can have too, but not as first priority. Oh really? Men don't want commitment? They don't hold it as a high priority? In what world? These things you mention…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:42 PM
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I'd still answer though that I see no reason why men should be expected to both adopt women's priorities and ignore their own. They aren't "women's priorities". Relationships are there to form families. So the priority of both men and women should be to find a suitable partner to build a family with. Modern society places a huge importance on sex itself, but functionally, it isn't that important. It's a means to an end for procreation. Is this a personal attack? I don't see how you could conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:58 PM
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Or maybe, those women identify the fact that sex isn't even close to being the most important part of a relationship? Maybe those women actually want a lasting connection, that could lead to marriage and children? It would make 0 sense for a woman to just let any dude bring her to bed right off the bat. which indicates they can't relate to ever feeling sexual attraction Just because you have an urge doesn't mean you should give in to it. You aren't an animal. You are a human being - an intellige…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:32 PM
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Reposting my comment here: 'This sub seems to have such a twisted, absolutely self-centered view on relationships, where seemingly, personal sexual gratification is the only thing that matters, without any care about the other person. It's revolting. With such an outlook, you don't ever stand hope of building anything that lasts. Because a real relationship requires outward focus, not inward. It requires selflessness. When you go dating, sex should be the least of your concerns.'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:06 PM
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Even if I were to agree with your statement, that those acts are submissive, why does that matter? Are we all so proud these days, that a little bit of humility will kill us? Also, all of those are simply acts of caring or politeness. If you see them as "condescending" or "misogynist", maybe the problem is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:52 AM
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Lol I am engaged bro. Hardly desperate. I am just being honest. And if you were honest, you'd agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:40 PM
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Most? I would say yes. Not all of us, but it's safe to say that most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:08 PM
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It's only "good" to the one doing it. Those other cultures, that people go to, may view sex and relationships completely differently. In their eyes, a "rich" westerner came like a prince on a white horse, and a girl thinks she'll get a good life. But she just gets used and discarded. And then, because she bedded a foreigner, men in her country shun her. "Good thing"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:59 PM
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Because I am only interested in long-term relationship (marriage), and for that you need someone you can trust, and someone who has the same mindset, values, etc. If she'd rather go clubbing, while in relationship with me, it just tells me she doesn't have the same understanding of commitment, and so I cannot trust her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:05 PM
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It would be to me. That isn't the kind of a person I'd wanna be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:31 PM
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If you didn't say these things in the parts I quoted, then what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:12 PM
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Women across the board inherently believe that they should be the prize in dating and most men should pursue for their affection Hardly. Lots of them actually pursue men. My fiancee kinda did. It frightens most women to have to be the ones chasing behind a guy and doing things to impress him bc there’s the chance that your effort falls to the wayside. The possibility of rejection frightens men too, bro. Not necessarily to kiss her feet but to be at a point where he desires her more than she desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:56 PM
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I mean according to you, one cannot force others to change, right? That is correct. You cannot really control someone else, you can only control your own actions in relation to theirs. I am very curious if you hold feminists to those standards as well. Feminists or women? Because there's difference. The former is not a rational bunch and never was. And I do hold women to the same standard, though at least on this sub, OP is correct that the ones demanding change, dropping of standards, etc. are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:50 AM
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Demanding women to change, trying to guilt trip, etc. is just a really weak tactic, and it's not a rational thing to do. You cannot force other people to change. But you can control your own actions. If these guys don't like the attitude, behaviour, looks, or whatever, of a certain woman, they should move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:59 AM
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And this is the new age thinking that relationships fail due to. One must by default always prioritise themselves first. No. For a healthy and long-lasting relationship, you should always put your partner before yourself. That's what growing up is. Children only think of themselves. You can't build something with a child. Not only that, but in a real marriage, there's little place for individuality. Two become one and must think as family, as one unit. That's what marriage is. Something modern p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:39 AM
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Because when you are in a relationship, your actions affect another person. Another person who relies on you. Thus, you carry a responsibility. In a real, healthy and lasting relationship, each partner would give themselves fully to the other, and there'd be no thought "what's in it for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:15 PM
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Nope, not even close. All people care about today is consuming. That goes for relationships too. No responsibility, selflessness, long-term planning. People now selfish egoists, and you cannot create anything with those.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:58 PM
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Quite frankly, I think a lot of men and women today aren't fit to be in a relationship, for they don't know the first thing about what a relationship requires (e.g. putting your partner before yourself). Everyone's also seemingly obsessed with sex and wants it asap. No thought for family, marriage, etc. I really do not envy anyone trying to date today. If I was single, I'd just rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:47 PM
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Because that shows her liberal attitude towards relationships and sex. The fewer the inhibitions, the less you can trust someone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:01 PM
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No. That's not someone I could trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:22 PM
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Relationships are always at their happiest without kids and pets Hardly. Give it time and the stagnation will eat away at that relationship. Relationships should move continuously towards their natural ultimate goal. I’d rather spend that money investing. To what purpose? If you aren't ever planning on providing for a family, what in the world is the point of acquiring money? You think that'll make you feel like there's a point to existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:57 PM
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What is the ultimate point of having a relationship if you aren't planning to create a family? What, you think you will live forever? You think you'll be young forever? No. So you have to think about the future, and about your goals for the relationship. And realistically, a relationship has two outcomes - marriage & kids, or separation. That's it. The reason why relationships nowadays don't last is because: 1) They were started for wrong reasons, e.g. for fun/sex/money. 2) People nowadays are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:45 PM
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You may live in misery if you sacrifice your youth and health slaving for a company and not having much to show for it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:28 PM
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This internet grading thing is really ridiculous, but the number of couples I've seen with conventionally unattractive guys being with attractive women really defeats this argument in my eyes. This grading thing is ridiculous, because it's not physical beauty you should even be looking in a person, man or woman. What does it matter if you can't stand them, or can't trust them? What matters is what makes someone a good wife/husband. And in women, you look for loyalty, humbleness, family-oriented …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:57 PM
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There was a change in behaviour. I suppose, primarily, because I got into new hobbies, such as mountain biking and hiking, which required better fitness than what I was. It also solved my knee pains that I was starting to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:53 PM
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It isn't an empty platitude, and I am basing what I am saying on my own experience. I got fit because I want to be fit. Not to impress anybody, but for my own health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:47 PM
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Exactly. This isn't a Disney channel. So stop pretending to be someone you aren't. Or do you think you'd always maintain the facade? Look for the kind of woman who's attracted to you, not someone you are pretending to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:45 PM
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Disagreed. Not saying one shouldn't put effort into themselves, but you shouldn't be doing all that just to impress other people. You want to exercise, get fit, eat healthy? Great. But do it for yourself. "Just be yourself" isn't necessarily saying you cannot be a better version of yourself. But that you shouldn't pretend to be someone you are not. Get a good job/business and work hard as hell. And sacrifice your youth for the "grind"? To what purpose? Even if you did manage to build up wealth t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:30 PM
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For no reason? Sure. But if it's a man you have every intention of living out your life with and starting a family with? It makes perfect sense. And it is admirable. Humility was always admirable, and moreso in this age, when everyone's encouraged to be maximally egotistical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:13 PM
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Because they love their partner and choose to give themselves to them. Something that's quite natural, when you let go of pride and selfishness, two of some of the main things standing in the way of most relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:11 PM
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It's not about anyone feeling complete, or anyone feeling anything. It's about giving to your partner. Love gives. There is no space for pride or selfishness in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:07 PM
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Yes. And that is how you form a lasting and loving relationship. You cease being selfish and live for one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:03 PM
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Personally, I think that trusting your partner, relying on them, and being humble, are all admirable traits. Far more so, than pride. That being said, I acknowledge many men today aren't trustworthy for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:07 AM
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I agree with the first sentence, but the second one... I suppose, we should define "submissive", but is it really unrealistic? At least in my experience, if a guy proves he's trustworthy and actually takes initiative, and cares for her, a woman is perfectly willing to follow his lead. Granted, I don't think women should be "submissive" to every man, because not every man is trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:09 AM
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Standards or desires? I don't think every woman expects a millionaire for a man. Indeed, most probably do not. So it's not a standard. Would they want a millionaire, were it possible? That's a different question. "the right man will come along" The "right man" doesn't necessarily tick all those boxes you mentioned. I don't know where you live, but in my experience, women don't want a lot. In terms of finances, you should maintain a job and be able to manage your finances. That's kinda it. In ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:33 AM
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And this entire argument is shattered by one single fact - most men would rather be single, than be either of the things you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:53 PM
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No, I meant loyalty and it is loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:56 PM
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To some extent, sure. But I think it's reasonable a man won't put too much effort in until the woman actually shows commitment. I also think, though, that no good man would expect or try to initiate sex until well later in the relationship. It's not sex that matters. Loyalty, joint goals, selflessness - those are the cornerstones of a relationship. If you don't see signs of that, from the get go, it's hardly worth moving forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:49 PM
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Men will happily buy flowers, or do anything else, to make a woman happy, as long as she's actually loyal to them. And that's the main thing that many of these lads here don't manage to voice - loyalty. And loyalty, commitment, is what is missing these days. People think of new terms to run from commitment daily. Back in mah day I haven't even heard of any "situationships". Generally, there's way too much pride and irresponsibility around today. If I haven't found someone already, I probably wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:02 PM
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Because this idea of "equality", while cute, is unrealistic and doesn't work. There has to be a leader. For millennia, that was a man's responsibility and it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:08 AM
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Biology isn't a matter of opinion. And an actually healthy and working relationship is precisely when both partners coordinate their actions together. If you insist on acting on your own, while in a committed relationship, that relationship won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:06 AM
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We willingly give up some of our freedoms when we enter into a committed relationship, e.g. we don't date others. I don't see how what I proposed is any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:05 AM
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Yes in a sense, that he shouldn't travel alone. But overall, the husband is the head of the household. If you disagree, then what do you personally think on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:38 AM
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I'd rather think, that husband and wife should travel together only, unless otherwise necessary. After all, husband and wife become one in marriage. And this way, you avoid unnecessary worry, or even potential jealousy/suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:25 AM
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Particularly the concepts pertaining to the spouses' conduct in a marriage, for example, that the woman has to adhere to her husband's wishes, for example, when travelling. Granted, I think this should go the other way, as well, at least to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:54 AM
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Both are extremes and both influence divorce rates and birth rates. In the west, it's not feminism alone, but rather, our too-liberal view on sex together with feminism (and bad economy) is what causes those things. When you give people too much sexual freedom, you warp their view on relationships and sex, and people lose the will, and soon ability, to actually commit. With widespread usage of contraceptives, children have become not even a secondary, but the very last thing to actually think ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:00 AM
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And that is an unsubstantiated assumption. You have no idea who I am, or what means I have to provide. Rest assured, that's taken care of. I've answered your questions. Good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:37 PM
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What a wild conclusion to make from my words. Money is a means to an end - you only need enough to take care of yourself. Other than that, money has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:40 PM
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Money is a means to an end. You only need enough to take care of yourself and your family. To show that you do something, not just sit on your bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:40 PM
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Then I guess men waste their prime and fertile years slaving away for a corporation too To some extent I agree, but biology dictates that men have a larger window of opportunity for kids. And, of course, men aren't the ones who have to carry and birth children. are you agreeing to give your wife retirement funds? Are you going to invest into your 401(k)? If you die, how do you ensure that she’s taken care of and your children are taken care of? My family is my priority. Everything I own is their…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:38 PM
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Birthrates are failing in the west due to 2 primary reasons: Bad economy. Sexual immorality. While feminism partly fueled the second one, it is not the main culprit. Do you think nowdays with so much concern over the falling birthrates husbands and fathers will be more hands on with their offspring? How do you think it will change mens attitude towards their wife? Will we end up realizing that motherhood isn't as easey as we liked to think? Will our female ancestors who had no choice but to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:19 PM
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reasons why female economic empowerment actually makes us unhappy That's what I answered. It is precisely on topic. It's because your pursuit of jobs affects other, more important areas of life. You wanted an answer, you got it. Have a good evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:14 PM
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Has nothing to do with money perse. For one, it has to do with biology and relationship dynamics, that stem from biology. Yes, men are the ones taking care of the family. And there's a lot more to that, than just money. For another, a relationship is work. Both have to put in the work. If you spend your time sitting on the couch, watching tv and growing a beer belly, you think a woman should be attracted to that? Like, what do you actually want from a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:12 PM
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That's not what I said, technically. Also, you asked for opinions, but they are irrelevant? If you don't want an answer, or can't handle it, don't ask the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:04 PM
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Let us see if they’ll look past the issue of being the breadwinner of the relationship Relationships where a woman earns more are already here. Many. if they can still appreciate a man that is essentially a financial tapeworm. That's different. If he's not making any income, of course that won't make her happy. She'll be raising kids. Why'd she be happy with a lazy husband, who's essentially another child? But if both have income, and the woman earns more, it isn't an issue like you people make …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:57 PM
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And that's what's illogical. Having kids is probably the most meaningful thing we can do in life. A career? What will you have to show for it? Money? It's a means to an end. It's meaningless. Women eventually get this. Hence the unhappiness. not does this opinion have anything to really do with my post. It has everything to do with your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:54 PM
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Do you resent being "at the mercy of your employer?" Or serving a "corporate overlord?" No, it's a voluntary contract that I can leave at any point. I see these things frequently brought up as reasons why female economic empowerment actually makes us unhappy It's primarily because You waste your prime fertile years for an education and carrier. Ideally, one parent would stay at home and raise kids, rather than outsourcing this job to the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:40 PM
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When I see statements such as this, I wonder if people here genuinely go outside and talk to people... women will try to use relationships to try to have the best financial options Really? You think an average woman has a conspiracy to get to riches through dating a guy? Wonder, do I wonder, why they'd bother getting an education, then... A woman who's interested in long-term relationship will, understandably, want a man who can take care of himself, and potentially, who can support a family. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:35 PM
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Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:48 AM
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Now translate this to something comprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:45 AM
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It doesn't have anything to do with selflessness, or lack thereof. It has everything to do with what women are atttacted to. I agree though, there is nothing wrong with having preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:35 AM
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I never claimed men and women are equal, at least not in every way. We are equal as human beings, made in the image of God. But beyond that, we are very different. And we must be different, for we complement one another, not replace one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:56 AM
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No man has to pay for a date anymore. Did men ever have to pay for dates? We choose to do so, because giving to someone you love is pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:52 AM
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In my relationship, I plan the dates, and I pay for them. My girl is happy to go wherever I'd take her, and while she expressed we can split, I prefer to pay. Because it makes me happy to take care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:32 AM
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And you are basing this off what data? I don't know any guy, who wouldn't pay for dates. I do, too, even though my girl expressed that she'd also be fine with splitting. Europe, especially Eastern Europe, is still quite a bit more... "conservative" than the West. And the roles reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:24 AM
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At 40, a woman's chances of a successful birth aren't very high. If a man wants a serious relationship, he'll consider someone younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:35 AM
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But it hasn't. There are still good women out there, and there are good men to treat them as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:12 PM
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Why wouldn't they? If they are single at that age, either they aren't looking for a committed relationship or they are widows. Why wouldn't they reminisce? And why would a guy, who's looking for a serious relationship, consider a 40-year-old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:09 PM
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It is not a rational outlook, or one that will do us any good. Both men and women should start respecting the sacrifices they each make in a relationship, again. A man takes on a lot of initiative in a relationship, sure. But asides from finances, a woman takes more risks by entering a relationship. She's the more vulnerable party. As such, it makes sense the man takes care of her. Honestly, when I read posts like this, I wonder - what do you imagine an ideal (realistically) relationship to be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:45 PM
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Oh, but it is a given. As I already mentioned, both men and women needed some form of commitment from one another. A woman had to be reasonably sure, that the man would stay with her even through her pregnancy, or pregnancies, and through all the child-raising. She needed him, and she needed his exclusive attention and affection. Same with a man, he needed to be reasonably sure the kids are his. He needed to be reasonably sure his work and resources wouldn't go to waste. And all of this, without…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:38 PM
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This type of thinking can only come from modern society, that is so far removed from history, logic, and primal understanding of survival. "Patriarchy"? Before the government took on the role of a husband for most women, women willingly followed men, because that was in their best interest. Without a husband to do heavy labour and to protect her, a woman would've been lost, in the past. There was never some "plot" among men to have dominion over women. That is comic book level of silly, sorry to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:30 PM
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It is easier to find a partner for casual hook-ups, that may be true. However, retaining a partner is a lot harder nowadays. If you are a "traditional" guy, who wants marriage and kids, finding a suitable woman may be quite a task. Especially if you intend to remain chaste till marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:26 AM
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It is easier to find a partner for casual hook-ups, that may be true. However, retaining a partner is a lot harder nowadays. If you are a "traditional" guy, who wants marriage and kids, finding a suitable woman may be quite a task. Especially if you intend to remain chaste till marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:26 AM
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For me it's more like lunch and movie dates, but yeah. Especially if it's raining outside. It's cozy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:42 PM
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It's not always true, as men can and do become the "selectors" too. I mean, just look at any reasonably attractive guy. He has options. But it's also undeniable that women typically have more options. It doesn't even matter if they have kids, or if they are overweight (to an extent). An attractive woman will, probably, always have more options. At the same time, I agree that TRP is crying about this too much. It's not like men have no options. As a man, if you put even minimal effort into yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:20 AM
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Pederasty was never seen in a good light in that society, my dude. And by today's standards, that society wouldn't be seen as "sexually liberal", at all. Birth rates have declined because we’ve seen the largest global scale reduction in poverty in human history. Rich societies all have low birth rates, thanks to women’s education, the lack of a need to have 11 kids to offset infant mortality rates, and service/information based economies that don’t need an army of grunt laborers making widgets i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:10 PM
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Open pederasty? In ancient Greece and Rome? Please learn more, my dude. Their civilization died with "sexual liberation", same way ours is headed. Look no further than the abysmal birth-rates across the western world, as well as the general state of relationships. What, 50% or marriages fail, on average? Most western countries already struggle with basic social care programs, like pensions. Why? Aging society. But sure, my dude, stick your head in the sand and keep saying "it's alright, we're fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:57 PM
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"Sexual liberation" is the best method to absolutely destroy a society, no matter how technologically or inteletually advanced. There are some things, that shouldn't be liberated, and for good reason. We are reaping the fruits of the 60s hippie movement, what with entire western civilization slowly dying out due to low-birth rates. And we are getting increasingly more animalistic and depraved, as we fall. Even suggesting to people that they should remain chaste till marriage, because that's what…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:49 PM
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dismissive to men’s issues I am a man, and I wasn't aware we had issues. And I don’t think feminism is about hating men at all, but creating an equal playing field for both genders, which could mean elevating women in some aspects No, feminism hates women. And it shows that by giving women a more miserable life than they ever had in the past. If "equal playing field" is the goal we are moving towards, why are women getting more unhappy by the decade? (Women's happiness paradox) lots of women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:35 PM
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Because I live relatively close to Russia and know the effects of the Bolshevik revolution. The way they dealt with Romanovs was inhuman. And for all that violence, the only thing they showed was more violence, famine, and the destruction of Russian culture. Millions of lives lost. For what? Same thing with the French Revolution and Jacobins. So trigger happy with chopping heads of "dissenters". And this is the bloody history of revolutions. People want to tear down and destroy, but do they thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:25 PM
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Historically, practically everything was done by men. Sorry to say. And if you remove the government, you remove protection for women. Wonder, do I wonder, what will then happen. To which age will we return?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:33 PM
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Revolutions, as much as they happened, never made things better for people. Think of the French Revolution and the Bolshevik Revolution - they were a bloody, violent, miserable mess, ultimately did not deliver anything better than what previously existed. force the wealthy pay what they should Pay for what? With what? Revolution is a tear-down of the whole system. Will the money even be worth anything? And that doesn't solve the problem of low workforce. Nor of low birth-rates. It is a risky bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:28 PM
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Defunding police isn’t getting rid of police. It’s about having officers of the law and community policing and services instead of soldiers of the state. And how are you going to achieve that by defunding them? If they have fewer resources, they won't be able to choose their staff as well, they won't be able to equip their staff as well, they won't be able to monitor their staff as well. Lowered birth rates are also due to lower rates of teen pregnancy and lower rates of infant mortality. What d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:24 PM
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Mhm, and you think if we remove police forces altogether, women will suffer less? Amazing logic. I am not trying to make fun of you, but statements like these are absolutely ridiculous. The Left is systematically in favour of public services The Left is against parenthood. Against having kids. Which is why we have an aging society and less workforce. Less workforce = less public services = harder life for all of us, especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:14 PM
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"Oh please"... right... You still cannot listen to reason at all. I never even mentioned the women and workforce. I am talking about contraception and birthrates. Future generations will pay for this foolishness. I hope you will have an excuse to tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:09 PM
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Yes and yes. Which is why I mentioned anarchy to begin with. If people think women will live better in a state without police, those people are absolutely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:07 PM
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It goes beyond left or right. It's not a political issue. It's a survival issue. Low birth rates not only make the society SLOWLY die out, but they make life miserable too. With an aging society, you have less workforce and, thus, less funding for things like, say, pension. Or universal healthcare. The fact you people do not understand this... it's mind-boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:59 AM
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Yet the left is going increasingly anarchist, what with the "defund the police", the disobedience and disrespect towards the government, etc. Then you have the issue of abortion and acceptance of lgbt (many young women are now bisexual or queer). Things that created the problem of the birth-rates below the replacement level throughout the western world. We are going extinct. Thanks, inventors of contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:34 AM
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But for women it is rational to go towards the left, and for men it is rational to stay in the right. Why? compensate the misoginy in conservative circles What misoginy? The manosphere does not make up majority of the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:18 AM
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This wasn't about intentions. Of course you should let her know your intentions from the get go. It's about desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:48 PM
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Right, then those dudes should learn to talk about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:02 PM
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Maybe, though considering my location, it's highly unlikely. Depends. No. Absolutely. That would be preferable. Depends. Unless we can feasibly close that distance, in short time, no. No. No. Depends, but probably not. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Already am. Yes. No. Yes. No idea what that is. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Yes. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:59 PM
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That's because different men are different. I know, surprising. Personally, I have no interest in short-term, "casual" relationships. My goal, in terms of a relationship, is marriage and kids. Not interested in someone, who doesn't share that goal, and doesn't show the qualities needed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:53 PM
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Instead of complaining about her supposed "selfishness" (which is really just responsible long-term thinking), why not make yourself into a man who can take care of her? Get yourself a job, get yourself hobbies, learn useful skills. Discipline yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:43 AM
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Sure, though I wouldn't say it's not enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:53 AM
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I don't do it "for sex". I do because I know she loves this romantic stuff, and I want her to be happy and feel loved,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:30 AM
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May, may not. Are you so sure YOU are such a perfect partner, with no baggage or personality quirks?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:18 PM
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It absolutely does. Unmarried couple isn't even a family. Either one can check out at any point. There's nothing at all joining them, other than the child. Unmarried cohabitation is gross, selfish, and bad for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:10 PM
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I suppose I should define a "bum" - a guy who has no job (or a very poorly paid one), no aspirations, and doesn't try to improve his situation. Basically, a guy who can't take care of himself, let alone another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:18 PM
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Kids need a stable family with a mother and a father. Marriage gives the best chance for that. Husbands have abused, cheated, neglected, And "boyfriends" (and girlfriends likewise) do so even more. If you two aren't even willing to commit to a marriage, why in the world would you have kids together?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:16 PM
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It ain't a strawman, it's just a figure of speech. And if a woman got in a relationship with a man, it means she found him attractive. And also, based on my own experience, most men make a bigger issue out of their physical flaws than women do. It's the insecurity that's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:03 AM
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It really isn't. Majority of men are in relationships, but it's safe to say majority of men aren't Brad Pitt. But we may agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:57 AM
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Nope, that's actually not that important. As in, you should put effort into yourself, be physically active, etc... but as long as you have those things I mentioned, it literally doesn't matter if you are short, if you aren't handsome, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:45 AM
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What's attractive to women, is a man with a drive (towards his goals), a job, and something to keep himself occupied (no, not video games).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:41 AM
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And yet, I saw a bunch of dudes complain that older women won't date them, and that older women are more demanding, while younger ones are supposedly "more approachable". In my experience, women don't necessarily want rich men. But they do want men who have actual jobs and goals for the future. Who don't just sit around doing nothing. "Romance"... take off the rose-tinted glasses and think about the future - is the relationship viable long-term?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:37 AM
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Sure, young people make mistakes. Particularly big mistakes, if they didn't have parents that would drill some wisdom into them. But if a woman's smart and thinks about the future, she won't date bums. And it ain't pride, it's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:18 AM
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Yes, a woman who likes you will make it "easy" for you. At the same time, I think it's natural that a woman looks for a man who can provide, at least to an extent. She's thinking about future, and that's important. You should be thinking about future too - what about life together? Marriage? Kids? etc. Not just short-term "fun". If a guy's a bum who wastes his time, she knows there's no future with him. Why in the world would she be invested in someone with no future?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:12 AM
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Might it be your friend has unreasonable standards? I don't understand how option 1 is bad. The men she find on this side are well educated and making good money. So that's good, right? a lot of them are inc*ls No dating experience at all they don't do anything to become more appealing Sorry, maybe I am not entirely familiar with internet slang, but that isn't what an inc*l is, right? What is so bad about a man not having prior dating experience? What "experience" does she even want him to have?…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:09 AM
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You don't need experiments. Just watch how kids play in groups, when no one else is influencing them. You will generally notice the exact behaviours I described. "Natural" and "Biology" have always been words that conservatives use so that they can express their cultural view of the world No, biology is factual. Men and women are different. And not just after puberty. Which is why, naturally, boys and girls do act different. Unless, of course, some adults try to make them act in other ways. no, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:19 AM
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Well, we probably grew up in different times and different places. As long as nobody got hurt, we weren't much supervised. And boys always played rough, which is why girls didn't want to play with us. And as boys, we were fine with that. And it makes sense - we are different biologically. Even before puberty sets in. Which is why I think this is the natural inclination we have, and trying to "teach" people out of it, to "teach" them to "defy gender norms" is a harmful thing ultimately. You can e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:55 PM
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Well, I would question - what influence do kids get from the society? At school, at home... maybe? But when they are just playing outside, no one's influencing them in any way. No one stands there and instructs them on how to play. Leave them alone and you'll see what I described here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:44 PM
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Women and men are different but most behaviours are socialised based on what society finds acceptable I already mentioned Scandinavia - most egalitarian, yet still segregation in occupations that men and women take. So no, it's not about societal pressure. Why do you think feminists hate women? Because they seem to hate femininity in general. They advocate for women acting in masculine ways, taking on typically male activities and jobs, etc. For an example, even another reply here talked about "…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:05 PM
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It's not studies. I preficed it with "from my experience". Anecdotal I know, but from what I've seen, this is the behaviour of kids. And yeah, no outside input. It's just that boys and girls tend to have different energy, and so they segregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:59 PM
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And you proceed to gloss over and ignore most of what I said, only to then come to strawman arguments. But sure, I'll be charitable and repeat myself: From my experience: This is also, generally, natural. Not the colors or toys, but behaviour. For one, boys and girls typically segregate themselves - and it has no input from parents. Boys also tend to play more roughly, and there tends to be more competition. Actually feminists don't like pick me women, they are pretty hated the term itself was c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:51 PM
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In school, at least for me, Boys = Math, Physics, Economics; and Girls = Linguistics, Social Sciences, Biology. It's even seen in the university choices. Everyone from my school went on to college, most boys went into finance, CS, engineering; most girls went into medicine, humanities, arts. And this is not something that's pushed on them by society. It's just their own independent, natural choices. Even in the most egalitarian regions, like Scandinavia, men and women STILL differ in occupations…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:42 PM
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You are entirely too preocuppied with other people's opinions of you. "Biphobic"? You are allowed to have your views and your standards for relationships. Honestly, talking to reddit about this is probably the worst choice. Stay away from reddit, live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:28 PM
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That's not it at all. You devote yourself to your family, which includes your wife, yes. You are a man. Your duty is to take care of your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:09 AM
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You have to grow up, one day, and understand you don't live your life (just) for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:47 AM
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To be honest, my argument would be different. I'd argue, husbands should do more hours of labour overall. Not only are men generally stronger than women, but it's a husband's duty to take care of his family. As such, even if a woman was a stay-at-home-mom, I'd argue the husband would still have to take over the housework and kids, once he gets back from work. Especially if the two of them recently had a child. The wife will be overwhelmed. Is it equal? No. Men and women aren't equal. Is it hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:22 AM
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If I am not there with her, it ain't our date. So why'd I pay for anything? If this story is real, your friend was acting silly and paid for it. Literally. is it okay for men to pay? That's a strange way to put it. It's always "ok" if you decide to. It's your decision. Generally though, if I ask a girl to a place, I'll be paying. Otherwise we'll split, maybe. Depends on the situation and our arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:30 AM
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To be honest, I think society SHOULD be more blunt and honest. It used to be. And it was more orderly for that reason. There were standards. Now, in the west at least, there are no standards. People can walk around and do whatever, and demand the exact same level of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:21 PM
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And I'd have a problem with that, in itself. If some woman is offended by my preferences or views, why would I want anything to do with her? I don't want to match with her. I don't need a person whom I'd have to walk on eggshells around in my life. If that thins out my matches, fine. It's not quantity that matters. I just want one good woman to spend my life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:17 PM
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How would you feel if some called you fat to your face? I'd accept it, for that would just be a fact. In what world is denying facts and deluding oneself a good way to live? Especially considering that if I got fat, that would be 100% my own fault, considering I am a young and healthy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:01 PM
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Not that I use dating apps, but for example, if personally I don't want to date a fat woman, why would I not specify that in my profile? For fear of offending someone? Same way, I won't judge women for not wanting short men, and writing that down, even though I myself am short for a man. People should instead write what they like todo and enjoy. That doesn't always tell you what that person is like. Hurtful for those who doesn't fit the preferences. People are different. There's always gonna be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:45 PM
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Yes it is. You cannot shake off the responsibility YOU HAVE over someone you get into relationship with. The obvious thing is, just as I pointed out in my OP, that these things are incomparable. A woman having or not having had plastic surgery doesn't affect you. But dumping a woman who thought you wanted long-term relationship will ruin her. This is common sense bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:41 PM
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The difference is that many, if not most, people don't want casual sex at all, or don't want just it. If you lie to someone who expects long-term relationship, you are screwing them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:30 PM
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Not in a strict sense, but it's bad. Spouses should turn to each other with their "needs", not some 3rd parties. That's a slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:15 AM
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These two things are incomparable. If you can't tell from the get-go, how does knowledge of plastic surgery affect you? If you liked her looks anyways? Lying to someone about your intentions, on the other hand, has very real consequences on them. At best, you are wasting someone's time. At worst you are completely screwing someone over. It's evil bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:17 PM
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Especially when dating consists of you giving 100% of your effort in hopes of receiving a fraction of theirs Bro. If you dive headfirst into every relationship from the start, you will push girls away. And naturally, you'll end up hurt. If you are having trouble like this as a guy, the thing you've gotta do is stop desperately desiring for a relationship. This desperation isn't romantic or attractive. It shows there's not much going on in your life. Change that. Start learning new stuff (prefera…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:45 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you say OP, but the one thing I'd point out - no one today actually acts traditional, or wants traditionalism, outside of religious circles. If you claim to be traditional, but sleep around with people you aren't married to, you are a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:40 AM
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You'd first have to prove men are actually being "harsher" on women's weight. However, we never hear women talking about men's weight at all. Maybe you didn't hear it, though I highly suspect insincerity. Chubby men are judged just as harsh, if not harsher. Having said this, the reason why people care about the weight of their potential partners is 1) beauty and 2) health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:30 AM
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I already said it - if someone's not willing to learn, that's a different matter. That's not what we are talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:35 PM
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If they aren't willing, that's a different matter altogether. But talking about "sexual compatibility" is downright nonsensical. Male and female. Compatible by default. And how to actually pleasure your partner is something you learn through experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:23 PM
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Each man and woman is biologically compatible. And talking about pleasure - that's something you learn to give your partner. No one is born an expert. Especially considering every person is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:04 PM
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"Self" says that it's inward-directed. Self-awareness would make you aware of your own strengths and weaknesses, not necessarily of what women think. women are overwhelmed by low value noise They just typically get more matches, thus giving them more of a choice. So make your profile one that THEY want to engage with. If you want to play these silly games, sure. Just make sure not to lie. Lies will be quickly outted and you won't win anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:11 PM
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Dating apps aren't "made" to "make sure men struggle". Dating apps were made because it (was) is a big business opportunity. It's not a new thing either. Social media was used this way since early 2000s, at least. Like all social media, dating apps are impersonal - you can only judge someone based on their profile, i.e. looks. And well... men find more women attractive, than the other way around. So naturally, women have more choices. If you had more "matches", you'd be choosing the best looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:49 AM
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Loving relationships don’t require any kind of compromises or patience or whatever you think you need to force something to happen that shouldn’t. Depends on how you define "loving" "relationships". I am not talking about short term flings, though accomodating another person in your life for any amount of time takes adjustment, compromises. What I am talking about, though, is marriage. Life-long relationship. And that requires everything I mentioned. When you spend years with someone, you will f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:44 PM
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I don't know this lingo "zing", but I do know how much redditors tend to be disconnected from reality. Celebrity, or not celebrity, it doesn't matter. If you are in relationship and you are crushing on someone other than your partner, you need to check yourself. Finding people attractive is fine. Lingering on it, crushing on them, isn't. Do you also get this upset if your partner watches porn? Yes. For reasons above, and because pornography is generally destructive to relationships and personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:39 PM
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Many celebrity women I find attractive, yet I don't fantasize about any of them. I just don't care. I am focused on the one woman I am seeing. I also have never heard of my acquaitances, friends, family members, who are in relationships, have actual crushes on celebrities, or any people asides from their partners. That's just not something you do when you are already building something with someone. Honestly, it seems to me that you are just trying to excuse disrespect and borderline emotional-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:34 PM
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Fairy tale? Ironic, coming from a redditor. At this point, all I see, is you people trying to excuse your emotional cheating on your partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:18 PM
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No, they really don't. Not in a normal relationship, anyways. As I said, we all may find some people attractive, but we don't linger on them. We don't fantasize. Because we care about our loved ones. If you began fantasizing about someone else, you need to seriously think about what you are doing. Because in your head you are already being unfaithful. And that is not far from being physically unfaithful, should an opportunity present itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:00 PM
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Being attracted to someone is different from having a crush. No, having crushes isn't at all normal when you are in a relationship. You can acknowledge someone is attractive, but if you are faithful, you won't linger on them. You will certainly not even entertain a possibility or fantasies of being with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:31 PM
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And that's not a good thing. "Incompatible"? Every couple of a man and woman is compatible biologically. When it comes to other things, like personality, no one is. Every relationship requires compromise, patience, learning and commitment. You will never find someone perfect. Every relationship requires sacrifice. In older times, people understood that it's not just feelings that keep couples together, but also duty. Once you commit to someone, or especially create a family with them, you have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:28 PM
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It's the sign of the times that it's considered a "problem" if a woman (or man) doesn't immediately want to have sex with someone they are dating. In reality, it's absolutely unprecedented. As close as some 70 years back sex was still for married couples. And that kept our society A LOT healthier. For a woman, to have sex with someone, is to risk pregnancy. Reproduction is the function of sex. Not to mention, that a lot of men care if a woman slept with someone else prior to meeting them. I am s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:14 PM
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If you see long term potential in a guy you're dating, it's in your best interest to make him wait. So... if you don't see a potential in a guy you are dating, you'd not make him wait, OP? Sleep with him right off the bat? Maybe it's just bad wording on your part, but that's what this statement says. If he's not way out of your league, you will have more leeway to keep him interested. If a man really wants a long-term relationship with you, manipulation is not a good strategy at all. Be reasonab…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:52 PM
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If a man is focused on long-term relationship (marriage), and if he's sensible, he won't expect to sleep with a woman until way later, preferably in marriage. If a woman sleeps with a guy after a few dates, she's not long-term relationship material. A woman who would make a good wife is a woman who values intimacy and doesn't give it to just anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:50 PM
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I believe you are confusing the comment threads here. Stick to the topic. Back at you. You're personal opinions of my emotions is just you're personal projection I merely pointed out your obvious distress, evidenced by the charged language, at my statements. Chill bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:29 AM
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Don't move the goal post. You said sex is only for marriage and that is the truth. I didn't move the goalpost. I explained my reasoning for that statement. I'm not going to rely on your personal religious views My explanation had nothing to do with my religious views here. Now try again No, I provided my reasoning. If you disagree, refute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:26 AM
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How do you think would I fare in Afghanistan, under Shariah Law, as a Christian? Are you telling me to kms? You also failed to answer my statements in any meaningful way. You are also getting unreasonably upset by my statements. Does it have to do with your identity as a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:21 AM
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Do I need to provide you scientific papers proving the function of sex is reproduction? Did you skip biology classes in school? You don't try to reproduce with just random somebodies. And what is better for society long-term? A sexually liberal view that fuels declining relationships and birthrates, or a more conservative view, that encourages people to marry and raise children? Granted, I am not sure if an average redditor is mature enough for this conversation. Your reaction to me being Cathol…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:18 AM
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I said sex before marriage is immoral. And it is. And the society acknowledged this until very recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:04 AM
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It's not my personal views. It's the truth. You think there's nothing disordered with potentially conceiving with a random somebody?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:03 AM
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Sex is the ultimate expression of intimacy between a man and a woman, when two become one flesh, with the openness to produce fruit of their love. We should only sleep with people we intend to create a family with. Sex is reserved for husband and wife, in other words. To give out such intimacy to just anyone is grossly disordered. It is nothing more than assisted masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:24 PM
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Does a man really value a woman’s virginity if hes trying to have intercourse with a virgin woman whom hes not married to? He values it in a sense that it satisfies him that he's her first. That she wasn't touched by other men. Doesnt that just mean he doesn’t care? After he bedded her, he probably doesn't care, yes. Is it selfish? Absolutely. It's horrible. But that's what sex before marriage is. It's inherently immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:04 PM
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I live a relatively active life, a fan of cycling, water sports, hiking, other outdoorsy activities. I also work a rather physical job. To do all those things, I need to be relatively in good shape. And, of course, I also like to look good in a t-shirt. So I'd say it's pretty important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:24 AM
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What you call fantasy was the norm for most of our history. Sexual revolution was when? 60s? And I've observed lots of very happy and loving elderly couples. My own grandparents were each other's firsts and lived together their entire lives. Even at the end, I could clearly see their love for one another. Sure, they bickered from time to time. But what redditors seem not to understand is that it isn't a sign of unhappiness. Marriage is there for the children. And for the sake of children, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:34 PM
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What you said was neither explicit denial, nor an actual argument against what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:49 PM
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And yet, you didn't deny what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:09 AM
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Who would you trust more - a "passport bro" or a guy who never went abroad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:49 AM
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I guess, in your imaginary scenario. That still leaves me with B. A "homebody" won't set fire to my wallet and will be someone I can trust more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:21 AM
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If I only had to choose between these two, obviously B. "I like travelling" is a default thing women say, but it's not attractive in the least. It literally translates to "I like wasting money to run off abroad and do hell knows what". Having said that, I'd want a woman who'd be into sports and outdoors, since that's something I am into. And there's no reason why a "homebody" couldn't be into these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:18 AM
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You can't follow your own logic or answer simple questions. Dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:45 PM
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You'd like sharing your woman's OF then? In your logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:45 PM
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People who are sane and decent. Human nudity should be reserved for one's spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:46 PM
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Feminism and MGTOW/TRP are two sides of the same coin - both designed to pit men and women against one another and further undermine already disfunctional relationships in the west. Both ideologies shun responsibility and long-term commitment. Both ideologies promote an unmarried, childless lifestyle. Both ideologies should be wiped off the face of the Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:37 PM
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Then you are implying all those celibate monks in history did not exist? That people didn't in history, and still don't in modern day, hold themselves virgin till marriage? Sexual desire exists in us, naturally, as we are drawn to propagate. A problem arises when people separate the act of sex from responsibility and conceiving new human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:23 PM
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People are not going to willingly stay virgins Then they can watch their society slowly collapse. Future generations are going to be so proud of our rampant perversion, when they will be the ones mopping up this mess. I am talking about the society's imminent collapse and our need to change things, while you are talking about insignificant inconveniences. Marriage that young is extremely uncommon today because people don’t have the financial and support means to do so. How much do you realistica…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:33 PM
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The primary problem with modern relationships is precisely "dating" or "hooking-up". The goal of courtship should be to find a suitable partner for marriage and raising a family. Sex shouldn't even be considered until after marriage. And yeah, I know how inconceivable this sounds to most people today. But the thing is that "hook-up" culture, or "casual sex" is more destructive to our society than any war, natural disaster or pandemic. Pretty much the entire western world has birth rates below re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:15 PM
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RP doesn't really have any presence outside of some obscure internet influencer fan circles. It's not that men are emotionally weak. It's just that majority of the world understands a successful relationship should lead to marriage, children, family, growing old together. RP and feminism are equally harmful to society by promoting a purposeless life of promiscuity. And specifically talking about RP - you evaluate women by their "body count", and you constantly complain about it being high, yet y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:19 PM
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no, that’s not what makes one a white knight Glad we agree on that. i should add, nobody who holds the hardline view that “there is nothing casual about sex”, that wanting it is “irresponsible and disrespectful towards the woman” and calls it “glorified assisted masturbation” is a reasonable person. Do you deny the biological fact that sex is an act that leads to conception of children?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 12:03 PM
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Asking for a more reasonable approach, when you think about another person and not just yourself, is being a "white knight"? You are exactly the reason why I said "I feel like men on this sub are being far less reasonable, and more self-centered, on average." anything women do is moral, justified, to be expected That's your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:42 AM
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Pseudoscience Well documented results are "pseudoscience"? What is science, then? Just a few sources: https://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF21A12.pdf https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/harmful-effects-of-pornography-9664 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9922938/ Hypergamy is women's perfectionist aspect of sexuality. It results in them having expectations of men that they themselves don't have to fulfil Hypergamy is the real pseudoscience. There is preference, and yes, men and women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:39 AM
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I was going to, maybe, agree with your title, but then your explanation went off the rails in the second paragraph and onwards. I realize that I may sound overly critical of men, but for one, I am a man myself. I feel more of a pull to correct my fellow men. For another, I feel like men on this sub are being far less reasonable, and more self-centered, on average. Many, many women dislike men watching porn And that's perfectly understandable. Pornography is harmful physically and psychologically…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:57 AM
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Not taking personal accountability and blaming one's parents is a sign of immaturity. So me using condoms is not showing taking responsibility? Showing responsibility would be to not engage in sex until marriage. Get to know the girl, let her get to know you. Take things slow, so neither of you get hurt. Only get to the next step when you are properly committed. Have your goal to create a family, rather than have shallow "fun". That would be the responsible way to approach relationships for a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:34 AM
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When you grow a little older, you will learn this thing called responsibility. Not just for yourself, but for another. And once you grow a little older, you do understand that 18 - 20 year olds are children, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:24 AM
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In a truly good society, people would only sleep together after marriage. It's not "just sex". It's an act that creates a possibility of conceiving children. It's an act that shouldn't be done with a random somebody. If a guy demands it early on and leaves because you didn't give it to him, you've dodged a bullet. A man that's worth keeping is a man that will have patience and won't be singularly focused on his own sexual gratification. I'm a woman early 20s and I've gone on many dates, but only…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:00 AM
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To be in relationship is to be friends first, with commitment, mutual goal, and sexual chemistry added. Having said that, men and women just don't make good friends. If I need a buddy to hang out with, a dude is just more fun with less hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:06 AM
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Not sure why women's dating preferences should concern you, OP. If a woman doesn't find you up to her standards, move on. If you take it personally, that's on you. There's plenty of fish in the sea. Also, "women"? You are just putting half of humanity into one group, a gross generalization. Woman =/= woman. Different women have different standards, different goals, different expectations for relationships. If you don't like generalizations like "all men are pigs", don' make them yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:25 AM
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"Tough love" isn't bullying. And sympathy can be shown by helping and coaching someone, rather than coddling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:12 PM
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This is something a stranger cannot gauge from another stranger. Yes you can. With just a bit of talking to a person, it's easy to see. And you can call "tough love" "toxic", if you wish. I think it's necessary for a lot of men, especially young men without direction. One of the reasons why tough jobs and military are beneficial, but nowadays everyone wants to sit in an office chair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:26 PM
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I agree in part. As in, I don't think anyone should just pick on another person for no reason. At the same time, I do believe some men need the "tough love", for they fall into a loop of self-pitying and unwillingness to get out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:09 PM
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On the contrary, to me it seems the feminists mostly hate women. Look at how much they oppose women being feminine, and how much they try to act masculine. Men are not allowed to be weak Men arnt allowed to cry It's not so much about "being allowed", as much it's about men just not handling emotions that way, for the most part. That's what toxic masculinity is. Men are not allowed to be weak. And personally, I don't think there's anything "toxic" about a man being strong and keeping it together,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 11:45 AM
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I am not sure how relevant marriage is to people on this sub, but personally, I just don't see relationships with significant age gaps (15 yrs +) working long-term. Sure, there are exceptions to everything, but 15 years and more is a MASSIVE difference biologically. Your energy levels, interests, libido, fertility - they are all very different. Sure, you can have a beautiful, cute relationship between such people, but it works better as a platonic relationship... which it often ends up as, anywa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:19 AM
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No one can tell you what your "standards" are. You are attracted to what you are attracted to. Having said that, the whole idea of "standards" is rather ridiculous. You meet a person who you genuinely see a future with, that's it. All those "standards" and other nonsense go out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:29 PM
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Maybe some women do have unrealistic standards. So what? They are not the norm. Move on. So why exactly would a highly attractive man choose an average woman over a hot one? What is "average"? Every person is different, there isn't an average. Now, why wouldn't a man choose the most pretty woman he finds? Because choosing a partner based on looks alone is a sure way to a disaster of a relationship. I think it’s disingenuous to say this no? At the end of the day isn’t companionship and intimacy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:11 PM
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I suppose I am being more critical of men around here. Why? Cuz I am a dude myself, and I want these guys to see reason. I mean, what are you even complaining about? Women having standards? Don't you have standards yourself? Or do you think you are entitled to a relationship? What is it that you expect us, or society to do? Force people into relationship with you? (Saw some posts here legit arguing for it lmao) And, just my suspicion, a good bunch of these dudes probably haven't even actually tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 08:45 PM
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It only doesn't matter to men who are promiscuous themselves. If you are looking for a woman to potentially marry, trust is a big thing. And well... if a woman was intimate with a bunch of men before you, only for all those relationships to break apart, that is a red-flag. It tells me that That woman cannot/isn't willing to hold down a relationship. She has a very casual view on sex (which IMO is disordered). How could I trust her in a real committed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:49 AM
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Taking care of their lives. Finding an actual partner. Learning new things, developing new skills. Anything productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:28 PM
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Not suppress. Direct it in a healthy, natural, and not-selfish way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:10 PM
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Lust is an integral part of p*rn. I highly doubt those "women in the grocery store" pose naked for your husband to get off to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:38 PM
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Are you incapable of limiting yourself regarding how much and how often you beat off / watch porn? Sounds like projection. Tell that to everyone suffering from addictions. Maybe think a little before speaking? Doesn’t affect my relationship nor my libido, whatsoever Wonder if your wife thinks the same, but if it works for you two - good for you. Generally, p*rn is still not good for couples. As is just proven by an abundance of posts by people concerned about their partners' consumption of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:36 PM
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"Release"? "Fantasy"? What??? We are talking about a couple's love life, and your own comment implies p*rn interferes with it. And talking about cheating... it begins LONG before actual intercourse with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:29 PM
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Sooner or later it's gonna have an effect on a couple's love life, if it doesn't already. A person directing their sexual energy to something other than their spouse is not a good thing. And p*rn is addictive too. Also, don't even try argue that you don't lust after people in your p*rn material. Lust is the whole point. It's not a healthy thing overall for the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:26 PM
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It takes away one's drive to do actually useful things one SHOULD be doing instead of watching that poison and "relieving" oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:13 AM
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If you think this is healthy for you, continue by all means. See how that goes for you, for finding and retaining a partner long-term. But most people out there understand how harmful p*rn is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:10 AM
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It's not feminists that argue against p*rn. It's pretty much majority of the population, because they see the negative effects of it in front of their eyes. P*rnography is addictive, just as anything that gives you a shot of dopamine is. P*rn doesn't "relieve" you. It makes even more obsessed with sex. Which only makes things worse for young men who were already awkward around women to begin with. Prn also rewires you to seek to msturbate when you are stimulated, rather than do what this urge sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:45 AM
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Life's not just about yourself. You are a member of your family. You should feel certain responsibilities to your family. But that's just one reason I mentioned. Relationships can only go two ways - break-up or marriage. Marriage is the ultimate goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:50 PM
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Root causes of the problems in western dating and relationships are three. First cause is the degenerated morality. Whereas previously the point of relationships was marriage and children, now everyone's all about short term pleasure without responsibilities. A successful relationship used to be creating a stable family with kids, now it's how many "bodies" you "scored". People proudly retell their "adventures" of running around like dogs without leash. Second cause is the selfish and individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:22 PM
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It (almost) doesn't matter how attractive you are. If you are being desperate, afraid and needy as a man, you will drive women away. Especially ones who want a real relationship, rather than one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:10 AM
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I believe if the man is the breadwinner, it's only fair for the woman to take care of the house chores and cooking. Both of them need to put effort into the relationship. If they both work, the chores are split among them. At the same time, since the man is stronger, I do think he should also help with the house-chores and whatnot after work, rather than just sit on his bottom. And for child care, there's a nanny who provides the service. Nannies should be hired as last case scenario. Kids need …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:46 PM
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Aye, all the good men died. And since only selfish cowards were left, our society fell to the abysmal current state.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:50 PM
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We were talking about the wealth gap between men and women, specifically. And that mostly has to do with personal choices, e.g. what profession route you choose. Which women tend to choose less profitable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:58 PM
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Look in the mirror bro. Can you at least formulate an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:50 PM
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I suppose this is the individualistic western mindset. Just thinking about oneself. Stranger or not, it's another human being, and likely your countryman, getting attacked. You could save them. You should at least try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:02 AM
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Yes well, there isn't some conspiracy where men pass down wealth to younger men... lol If you want to know why most wealthiest people are men, look into psychological/behaviour differences between men and women. Just the fact STEM fields are mostly filled by men should give you a hint on what's happening. Simply said, the reason for wealth gap is personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:55 AM
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Obligated? Of course not all to be a night and shining armour What does a man really gain from this? Nothing. It isn't about getting anything. Believe it or not, some people are able to think not just about themselves. And it's not just about women. If you see someone getting mugged or assaulted, you'll do nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:51 AM
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First of all, this is for individual couples to decide, not you, or me, or society. Men like to take care of women, if those women accept it, we are happy. That's it. because it makes women dependent on men How? Because I paid in a date with a woman, she's now immediately dependent on me? It doesn't even have anything to do financial standing. If I take a woman on date, I am happy to pay. Unless she wants to split the bill. Given the wealth gap between men and women due to men's societal advanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:46 AM
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Our entire species proliferated just fine for a hundreds of thousands years prior to the advent of Christianity. Not in a large civilization. Are you suggesting humans were happier Not suggesting anything, just stating facts. A B C D - birth rates etc. These are just a few examples supporting what I said. The Golden Age fallacy Facts aren't fallacy. I see you love this word, but you really should learn when to apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:16 AM
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What fallacy exactly? What are we talking about here? You need to be more specific OP. If you are talking about "naturalistic fallacy" regarding human sexual relationships, that's no fallacy at all. Going away from what are natural sexual relations for us would cause our entire species to ultimately go extinct, and our civilization would die. And this ain't just theorizing either. Look at the abysmal birth rates throughout western world. Look at failing marriages, families, etc. Our societies ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:51 AM
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unfairness of dating Sorry, but I didn't quite get it - what do you consider unfair in dating, in short? You'd see less guys flocking to the ''manosphere'' There's not a lot of guys that go there, and of those that do, most are young men with little to no experience in dating, or social interaction (with women) in general. And then they tell guy X ''See, it's that frustration that's the fault! That's why you're lonely! Well... most of the time, that is correct. While it is true that most women p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:04 AM
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If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been the state of relationship pretty much since the beginning, including the peak of human civilization. How interesting that when society embraced promiscuity, the society is dying. Slowly because there's so many of us, but still dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:27 PM
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No man wants to be the simp giving her all the attention while reciprocation pales in return. Maybe those guys should be less concerned with their egos, and more interested in building a genuine connection with the woman? both of you have "oneitis" for each other That's called being in relationship. and she is not getting dicked down by seven other guys around the same time. Why go after women like that? We should just point fingers as it is and continue about our day, just as you are doing. Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:01 PM
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Eventually Sure, I do think that spouses should not neglect one another in this department. But I think sex should be in-marriage. I think both spouses should be able to control themselves. Even in marriage, sex isn't guaranteed always. Your partner's welbeing should come before your sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:16 PM
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No, desire is one thing. People on here, and other TRP spaces, are actually mad women don't just "give it" to them. That's entitlement bro. I mean, I've read people saying "getting laid" should be a human right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:13 PM
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I just think our society went way off track with all the choices people have, and leaving it to their own devices to make that choice. "Dating" becomes the relationship itself. And it's a s**tshow. People chasing the temporary high, instead of planning and thinking ahead, thinking about the future. And just plain human decency is lost - you should realize you are playing with another person's feelings. When someone loves you, they are vulnerable. Bad breakup can mess them up bad. "B b but it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:23 AM
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You are in need of a BONK, my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:09 AM
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dating is Mother Nature herself "dating" is not a natural form of relationship between man and woman to begin with. What's natural is for the two to come together, get married, and have kids. "Dating" is a modern concept of a hedonistic society. I maximise my own pleasure and satisifaction because that is life. Why would I give a fuck for another persons reasons? Thats their concern, not mine. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Exactly what I meant. I suppose I should give you props, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:26 AM
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You guys really need to stop acting like you are entitled to sex. That's not the case, not even in married life. What do you think happens when your wife gets pregnant, or a few weeks, maybe even months, after baby's delivery? You've gotta grow up and learn to control yourself. Your partner is not your personal sex toy. It's a person you joined your life together with. You share your problems and joys with. It's goes far beyond just the bed matters. Nah, you are not attractive nor trust worthy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:11 AM
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Same as men often say they wish women approach them, but freak out if it happens You just reminded me of my teenage embarrassment. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:43 AM
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If a father can't make his son a man. A woman still can. Not so sure I agree with this. Don't get me wrong, most mothers are amazing, but I think a boy specifically needs an older male role-model/father figure. Be it father, step-father, older brother, uncle, grandfather, whatever. As long as he's a decent man When you go out and meet other guys, or even when you listen to them talk on TV, it's usually easy to tell apart ones raised by single mothers/weak fathers. Those men are just... soft. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:29 AM
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Sure, pop-culture had some effect... but I think that effect ironically is more on men than women. Men see these movies with roided up actors and think that's a normal physique to have, and they are getting self-conscious. Two years of "solid work" and "some dieting"? Depends on many factors of course, but you can get in a shape that's considered "fit" in a few months. For example, look at these dudes Granted, this is with personal trainers, but the ABOVE results can be attained pretty fast with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:42 AM
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If you are trying to make conclusions on half the human population, I believe 150 exclusively Aussie women is a small batch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:12 AM
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Hmm, how about this? Would you agree this is a dad bod?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:11 AM
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To start with, your source only polled 150 women. That's an incredibly small batch. Your source also mentions an "australian study", but doesn't have any links to it (at least I didn't see them). that is "lean and muscly" by todays standards which are the equivalent of what a a professional bodybuilder looked 100 years ago And what basis do you have for this statement? Your source only says that women liked men who looked "strong", "lean", and "tall". Typical stuff. You don't need to be a bodybu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:57 AM
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Men are much more likely to face initial rejections Women are much more likely to face manipulations To an extent, I can agree with this, though I think generally men are much worse at "manipulation" than women... or maybe I only see it that way because I can look at a guy's "game" more objectively. Being pumped into believing feelings are mutual and a relationship is starting only to be dumped the next day Which is why you should always take things slow, you've got nowhere to rush. Keep a cool …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:57 AM
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Not that I entirely disagree, but you know almost every social media platform out there has adult filters? Search engines do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:57 AM
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If I pay for my woman, she's not "leeching". I willingly gave her that money, because she's more valuable to me than that money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:57 PM
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based on official data by American Time Use Survey time series That should be your source, not reddit threads. Yes, we all know women never misinterpret their observations or lie maliciously. All of them suddenly decided to lie on the same exact thing? And regardless, I've seen personally how dudes act. Boomers with a beer belly at a TV screen, and young dudes in their early 20s expecting their gf to mother them, not taking any responsibility. Again, not saying all men are like that, but enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:14 AM
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Why are your sources other reddit threads? And well... I won't claim all men are "slobs", I personally know some really great guys, who do a sh*t-ton for their families. But clearly there enough guys out there who are "slobs", because it's about the most frequent complaint I hear irl and online. In fact, women get surprised when I tell them I cook/clean-up after work as a guy. It's telling bros. We've gotta do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:02 AM
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Some of these might sound contradictory, but here: doesn't smoke isn't interested in one-nighters/hook-ups humble can take a joke she's gentle/soft-spoken/feminine/etc she has a pretty voice she's in healthy weight she's not afraid to tease, challenge me, or criticize me when it's warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:46 AM
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So this is what TRP was about all along... I had my suspicions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:24 AM
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Everyone can sit at home and think of all the cool ways they'd supposedly handle this. But in reality, most guys would probably handle the situation similarly, +- a little charisma. Some guys would get into a fight possibly, but would it be better? The date is ruined either way, you'll get restaurant property broken, you will possibly get a few things in your body broken too. All of this to impress some woman you took on a date? All for pride. If these guys attacked the woman, I'd agree with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:31 PM
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women who want to see you hurt people. It's not that. Nobody wants to see you hurt people. But being able to, should a need arise, protect your woman? That's a different deal. Hurting/bullying random people is a turn off. But showing you CAN "show teeth", but don't... it garners respect. In other words, don't be a psycho, but don't be a doormat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:56 PM
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Men's attractiveness peaks at around 30-ish. For a guy in his late-20s/mid-late-30s, it's easy to pick up a girl of ~20.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:20 PM
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There are pluses and minuses to it, honestly. On one hand, an older man can be a lot more mature (patient, caring, wise), more resourceful, more stable. On the other hand, an older man would likely not be able match a younger woman's energy, i.e. boring. In my personal experience also, young women (18 - 23-ish) are really, REALLY naive. They are easy to score, especially for an older man, but they are also very vulnerable due to that. Granted, young men could hurt them just as much, but it is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:23 AM
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Pride is ultimately the worst. If she tries to compete with me, rather than complement me, it's not gonna work. If she tries to fight me and assert herself on every decision, it's not gonna work. Every woman deep down wants her man to be... a man. So let him. Swallow your pride and let him be the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:00 PM
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As long as hook-up culture exists, our societies will continue to decline until they die, or we go through a change. Sex isn't a trivial thing. It's not something that should be done random people. Every time a woman has sex, she's opening herself to a possibility of pregnancy. Does she want a baby from a random guy she doesn't know? Does a guy want to have a baby with a random woman he doesn't know? No sex till marriage was the optimal strategy for individual relationships, and the society as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:53 PM
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I get that some people here might argue there is no such as "alpha", but let's entertain this for a while. I don't think you understand what "alpha" is, OP. It's not someone who asks for the "pack" to follow them. If, in a group setting, you've ever seen a guy whom others just kinda... naturally flock around, well... that's your "alpha". It's natural charisma, or good leadership skills, or whatever you may call it. An "alpha" could just as well be the "sigma" in an individual setting, but become…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:53 PM
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You could make Melissa "average body type" and she would still be the best of these 3 choices. Why? Because the other two are full of red-flags. Though tbh personally, I wouldn't choose any of the 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:58 AM
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False. Males and females are needed for the species to survive. In no way are they adversaries. males of other species just accept their role as disposable And humans are also very different from every species of animals out there, not just for our intelligence and tool-use ability, but also our way of reproducing. Compared to animals, our reproduction is very inefficient - only 1 offspring (typically), that needs two decades to fully mature. At least a decade and a half to be self-sufficient. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:36 AM
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women using sex early "Using sex"? Like it's a strategic thing? Maybe it does happen in some cases, but to imply this is the case accross the board is ridiculous bro. We men can also choose to have or not have sex. Are we "using sex" also, in that case? woman deploying a mating strategy of quick sex How is it a strategy to begin with? It actually benefits the man, not the woman. If we are talking about "strategies", the logical thing for a woman would be to seek long-term relationship and family…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:10 AM
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Women who make sex too readily available compromise the power-holding position of the group, which is why many women are particularly intolerant of women who are, or seem to be, promiscuous.” This makes it sound almost as if all women are like a hivemind, or a cult, that tries preserve it's "power" over men. I am sorry, but this is ridiculous. Are men and women adversaries in your mind? If some women do react with disdain, it usually has to do with insecurity - her own body image, or fear that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:53 AM
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Of course fertility "wall" is a fact, but the problem here lies deeper. The problem is that people spend their 20s (the prime fertile age) wasting time with "casual" short-term relationships, running around like stray dogs. Or wasting that time on a building career. And this is a problem not easily solved, cuz modern western society is obsessed with sex. Most would recoil at even mention of holding out till marriage, yet that's one real solution to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:21 AM
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This should probably be a "question for women". But if you are letting us blokes chime in, I'll share my view. Do women prefer to share a high value man Depends on how you define "high value". Also I have a strong feeling that women's libidos get higher when they get cheated on Because depression and heart-break are great ways to increase one's libido /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:42 PM
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It may be true in case of some women. All of them though? Obviously it's false. Unless you think all those married dudes working simple odd jobs are illusions or something. TRP podcasts in general are quite disingenuous, bringing in the only same type of women every time, not letting them speak properly, paying them off, etc. Fresh and fit is probably the best example: 1) bring in an OF "model" 2) shame and make fun of her for being an OF "model" 3) shut her down whenever she starts making a poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:18 AM
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Good for you. That's not how other guys are. And there's nothing "misandrist" about saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:36 PM
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It's not culture. It's our nature. When shit happens, I don't want to talk. In many cases, I may be angry and need time to wind down. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate company, but pestering me to "talk" is the WORST thing you could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:32 PM
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How is this "misandry" lol? Most dudes I know don't wanna talk about it in such moments anyways. What they do want, is to hang out and take their mind off of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:23 PM
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Legal is not the right word here. None of what you mentioned is against the law. However, dudes just don't do those things. Personally, I'd be weirded out if my buddy wanted to "cry on my shoulder". That's not what dynamic between guys is. And "discussing feelings"? What is there to discuss? Yeah, you feel things. That's normal. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:08 PM
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You are another person here, who's showing a skewed way of thinking. "Insurance"? From your wife? Honestly, why do you people even consider marriage, if you think like this? I am curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:23 AM
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mountaineering, mountain biking, That is life bro. And at least you got the situation resolved. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:52 AM
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You may not actively try to do it, but the innate dynamic of male-female relationships still results in your male friends kinda doing what you'd normally do with a bf (minus the sexual stuff).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:35 AM
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I have to disagree here. as long as both are at least somewhat good-looking, a man and woman will naturally have attraction for each other. And that attraction only grows as they become closer. Being close friends already kinda teeters of the edge between friendship and romantic relationship emotionally. I don't know about women, but as a man myself, I kinda prefer men as buddies. Why? Because we can do more (more common interests), and I don't have to hold back nearly as much physically. male "…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:21 AM
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On the contrary. With a prenup, you set the nature of the relationship immediately: Wife = adversary My money > wife That is not a good dynamic to form long-lasting relationship. If you are just expecting your woman to "sabotage" the marriage, just don't get married bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:40 AM
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If you marry a woman, she's your life's partner who you'll build a family with. You shouldn't spare any money for her. If you don't trust her, why marry her at all? And consider how prenup looks from another perspective - you are immediately telling your wife, before all her family, friends, acquaintances, that you don't trust her, and that you are already preparing for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:00 PM
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Women have an attraction floor and men don't I assume, by "attraction floor", you mean a point in attractiveness below which they won't date men? Well then, I hate to break it to you, my dude... I probably wouldn't date women beyond a certain weight no matter how desperate I was. And a lot of dudes will tell you the same. Goodness, TRP dudes refuse to date any girl they consider "mid". if a woman cannot get the ideal man she wants, she's fine being single until it happens Majority of men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:36 PM
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And one can flip this scenario around, and say that there are guys who would drop their "plain Jane" for that "holywood hottie" the moment the latter invited them to her bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:28 PM
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but that's not hypergamy How? From what you explained here, it sounds like just preference. Preference for a better partner that both men and women have. It's just that men and women have different criteria that constitutes a "good partner". It's wanting a better man that she can't get And men are doing the exact same thing. Have nothing going on in their lives, but want supermodel girlfriends, and get angry if they get rejected by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:24 PM
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I don't mean to insult, but most of these men talking about "female nature" don't seem to go out much, or be in social situations, or actually talk to women. What would they know about "female nature"? And when talking about "masculine" women, tbh I think most men here are just intimidated by career women/gym girls, although I do acknowledge that a lack of femininity in a woman is not an attractive trait. For a good reason too. You can't have a proper relationship if the man and woman are compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:11 PM
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What is hypergamy? Wanting a better man? Isn't that just preference? And don't we men have the same quality? Give a man a choice between a very attractive woman, and a below-average one, which one do you think he'll choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:05 PM
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OP asked "why is 'cold approaching' seen as better than dating apps". My comment is in response to this question. There's a reason we don't socialize: we prefer not to. But relationship involves socializing, you know. And meeting someone organically is your best bet at finding a good partner. Why? Because it's not just shallow things, like looks or money, that get displayed to people once you interact with them for a while. if it yields results. Your starting "result" should be to learn to socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:52 PM
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I think it's more about being social. Actually social, I mean. Sitting on internet, and particularly listening to feminist/TRP content, gives you a skewed view on how people interact. Go out with your friends. Find social hobbies. Talk to women casually, without expectations. Build connections and relationships. All of that is a lot better than dating apps, and will often give you opportunities to meet women organically. Which is the best case scenario, as long as you don't have the personality …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:33 PM
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Yeah, I've heard that things in Canada aren't exactly... fun, right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:15 PM
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They'll gladly badger us with the hatespeech excuse.. Who? And even if they do, why in the world would we stoop to that level as well? Freedom of speech should be defended. And women considering us worse than bears. What women? A tiny little group of women who did some silly little poll some time ago? Probably ironically too. And you still cannot let go of it? Brother, I mean no offence, but I think you are in need of stepping away from the internet. Spend time with your friends, meet some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:49 PM
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You'd have to start by explaining what these "dating issues" are, and why do you think they aren't the fault of the men who have them. Perhaps organize campaigns which we all sue journalistic institutions for "hate speech"? No. There is freedom of speech. There isn't such a thing as "hate speech". We should abolish the silly term, and any restrictions on speech. Boycott dating apps? If you don't like them, don't use them. Problem? Creating male only forums/websites? Echo-chambers in other words.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:40 PM
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Because it's interesting seeing, and interacting with, people of substantially different perspective. Rest of Reddit is very dull, and no more moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:05 AM
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Depends on how high, in terms of importance, you put your work. Your husband and your family should come first. There's nothing wrong in relying on your husband to provide either. Granted, the husband must actually be reliable. I recognize the fact many men today aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:43 AM
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To let go of her pride and serve her husband. Just as her a husband should also serve his wife. A true long-lasting relationship is all about humility and selflessness. If you just seek what you want, if you are incapable of listening to your husband and fight him on everything, it's not gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:40 AM
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I don't consider myself TRP, but I wouldn't date Pearl simply because she's dishonest. She doesn't say what she actually thinks, instead trying too hard to cater to (some) men. Don't need her catering. Don't like how she victimizes men (TRP does too). But as for your "independent woman". What is an independent woman? One who has too much pride, and selfishness, to humble herself and be a good partner? Is that somehow a virtue? What future will that lead to? Cats? Is that the goal of this "indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:08 AM
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The most important thing is that you faithfully love one another. And I don't mean the fluff kind of love (though have a little bit of that too). I mean the responsible kind of love. Put your partner before yourself. Be committed. At the same time, I think that regardless of your personal beliefs, the man will end up taking care of his gf/wife. He's the protector, right? And mostly, the provider too. That's his natural role, whether you believe it comes from God, or biology. And, I think, for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:33 AM
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Do those women actually treat them like children, or do those guys just perceive it that way, due to their pride being wounded over their women giving them advice? Some here might disagree, but I do think a man is the head of the house. At the same time, it doesn't mean you don't listen to your woman. Always hear her out and consider her words. She has a different perspective than you, and that is valuable. At the same time, yes. There are, at times, actually bossy women who take the lead in rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:11 AM
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Responsible sex would be sex with your husband, having kept yourself pure till marriage. But, I suppose, we just have a fundamentally different view on the matter. Let's leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:42 AM
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If you don't want pregnancy, don't have sex. If you do it, outside of marriage, it's promiscuity. So yes, the purpose of contraception is promiscuity. And it is the main culprit behind broken families and dwindling birth-rates of today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:37 AM
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Whether you agree, or not, doesn't matter. It's a fact birth control promotes promiscuity. It allows sex without conception, even if it's not 100% assurance. Promiscuity is the exact purpose of contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:30 AM
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I believe that if a man wants to bed a woman, he must be able and willing to take responsibility. For a woman, every time she has sex is a risk. No contraception method is 100%. While young lads in modern day don't even CONSIDER that this is how children are made. Not to mention that contraception is immoral to begin with, and it only encourages promiscuity, cheating, broken families.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:48 AM
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And I am sure you have proof of this. Any verses commanding colonization? Official papal statements commanding destruction of indigenous people? Some of the colonizers might have been Christian. Were they justified by faith tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:39 AM
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Sacrifices of animals were done by ancient Hebrews for the Lord. And Moabites were destroyed for their sexual immorality and idolatry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:36 AM
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Colonization wasn't Christian. most Germans were Christians during worldwar II They were? Really? And was Hitler Christian too, according to you? How funny that you people attribute all the secular atrocities to Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:35 AM
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Lot's wive's context and lesson doesn't fit here, hun. But I am glad you read at least some of the Scripture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:32 AM
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Christians didn't crucify. That was roman shtick. Colonization wasn't a Christian doing either. destruction of every non-Catholic or Protestant religious or cultural practice Every? Most are just fine. And I don't know about you, but I am glad child-sacrifice practices were eradicated. other regime is responsible for more violence and destruction Third Reich? Soviet Russia? Communist China? Jacobin France? Ancient Rome?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:31 AM
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Not a protestant, don't call me "pastor". If you wish to consider yourself an animal, do so. We humans have intelligence and will. It's unbecoming of us to act like animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:28 AM
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Women seem to manage avoiding unwanted pornography just fine. Because most of it is aimed at men. And it exists even on street ads. It’s always startling when men admit they don’t believe women have the right to enjoy sex. Never did I claim that, and I've no idea how did you arrive at this conclusion. Men and women are free to enjoy sex within marriage. Men never cease shaming women for not being virgins. Which men? TRP? They are a minority of men. Most men irl don't know what TRP is. Religious …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:26 AM
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It wasn't "Catholic" conquest. And compared to the all the major wars? Be real, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:23 AM
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False. Less than 10% of all human wars had anything to do with religion. Worst atrocities of our history were committed by secular regimes, that also hated Christianity. Jacobins practically succeeded at eradicating Christians from France.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:12 AM
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I think the problem is much larger among seculars. As are many other problems. By your logic, seculars shouldn't speak at all. Lest we have more world wars, and other atrocities humanity committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:08 AM
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A downside of anonymity, is that people really let themselves go with immaturity. I do hope you'll grow beyond this, before starting any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:04 AM
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You mean, people becoming animals? Your very post proves how much people are enslaved by their lusts. What is natural for human beings, is to enter into relationships based on selflessness, love and mutual commitment to start a family. Not lust. "Casual" hook-ups are disordered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:59 AM
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I agree that it's an entitled, selfish way of thinking, that needs to change. However... Calling these guys narcissists is uncalled for, I think. While I don't want to take all the responsibility from them (they are responsible), I can't help but think these guys are a product of our SICK society. 1) Everything today is over-sexualized. You can't escape that imagery, even if you stop consuming any kind of popular media. 2) Sexual "liberation" (it's really enslavement), as well as widely-availabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:53 AM
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That's your argument? Partly, yes. Another part is that we think differently too. avoiding fights altogether Missed the last part of my reply. Though maybe I could been clearer: starting unprovoked fights with random people is endangering her. There are times when you CANNOT avoid a fight. Unless you want to leave your woman to fend for herself. Which is not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:48 PM
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we are waaaaaaaaay past being constrained by biology. Really now? Do men get pregnant now? Do women produce sperm? If you want to deny biological facts in your own fantasy, try it. See how far that gets you, until you are reminded biological facts remain biological facts. Her response: "That doesn't make me feel safe. That makes me feel incredibly unsafe." Because starting fights with random people isn't protecting your woman. It's endangering her. But if someone does attack her, as a man you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:54 PM
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I do want to trust her. But in different ways. Men have their duties, women have their duties in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:50 PM
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Maybe that isn't you, fine. Provided you are being honest. I'm basing what I said here on my personal experience with the women I know, or knew, not on "what I want". At the same time... You want your female to look at you and think " he can provide, protect, and take the lead". ... yes. I do want my woman to trust me and rely on me. And I'll do all I can to prove she was right in putting her trust in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:34 PM
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"No" isn't a counter-argument. And while individuals think differently too, there are common characteristics only in men, and common characteristics only in women. You can often-times tell someone is a man/woman without even hearing or seeing them, just their writings. That men and women have different roles is a biological fact. We are fundamentally different, physically and psychologically. Women's desire to be with men who can protect them stems from biology. That's our very role.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:30 PM
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it means "the guy I'm with isn't going to harm me." Yes, but it also means "guy that can protect me, take the lead, and provide" Neither gender is "wired" one way or another. It's a fact we think, reason and act differently. We value different things in a partner. A man and a woman have different roles in a relationship, and life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:16 PM
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While I acknowledge that these things exist, I don't think they are reliable characterizations - one man can be reserved and unsocial in one company, while being very lively, social, and confident in another. You just kinda need to find "your people" I suppose. Also, these characteristics have almost nothing to do with a job position, wealth or status. You can find "alphas" among CEOs and regular hired workers. Lastly, I think the ultimate expression of "alpha" is humility. When you could be pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:32 PM
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Where the two love each other and get married in the true sense of the word, dedicating themselves to each other as husband and wife, having discarded all pride and selfishness, having kids, and being faithful to one another "till death does it's part".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:22 PM
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Oh Lord, deliver us from evil
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:10 PM
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For one, women hold the sexual monopoly meaning they decided who gets sex, where, and when. And this is a false foundation that ultimately dismantles your argument. For one, it takes two to perform the act. Any one of them can say NO. For another, in quite a few relationships, the dynamic is such that a woman desires the man more, than he desires her. And no, this doesn't apply just to "millionaires". Your wealth and status have little direct influence on this. It's more about how you carry your…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:25 PM
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That's because you haven't seen a dude walking next to a girl who's taller than him. He looks like a younger bro. Also, think about a scenario where a shorter guy wants to be romantic, and initiate a kiss (he knows she's waiting for it), but he physically can't reach her lips with his, so he has to ask her to lean down. Is it still hard to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:21 PM
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The girls I date do not really tell me their "secrets," Obviously, because you are essentially strangers. Do you reveal all your f-ups to the strangers you meet? What do I know about her? Very few details. Yes. Which is why you date her to get to know her, not to get in her pants asap. Women think if I know all that, it will kill love and respect for her. Idk about you, OP, but lots of dudes would lose a level of desire and respect for a woman, if she revealed she was with multiple other dudes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:00 AM
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I think it's not even correct to call it jealousy. It's all about respect, commitment, and boundaries. If a woman respects her man, she won't idolize other men, and she'll establish appropriate boundaries with her male friends. And this applies to men just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:24 PM
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If guys are talking about Sidney Sweeney, obviously it's all lust. Anything she does will be a "turn on". Other than that, why can't a woman like computer games and still be feminine? Or even know her way around a car and still be feminine? While I can't speak for every man, what I think is a good woman, is one who's: loyal supportive able to forget her pride for the sake of her family/relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:43 PM
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Women will tell you how much they love their partners, and in most cases you find out that the partner always pays for dates, buys them gifts and provides for them, and this is actually what women love, not the man himself. It's an assumption. You don't know what they really think. It's rare for a man to be with a woman who likes him for who he is I think every woman likes her man "for who he is", unless she was forced into the relationship through betrothal, or something. A man buying gifts for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:05 AM
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It's not so common for women to have an OF, especially outside of English-speaking countries. As for porn, there are many reasons why it's...probably not a good sign in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:22 PM
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For people, who formed "their" opinion from some internet podcasts, or whatever... yeah, maybe. For young people too. Other people, on the other hand, formed their opinions from real experience. And that's not something you can change by throwing some internet "facts" at them. Only further experience can change their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:01 PM
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I found it to be the contrary. It's a men's way of caring for bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:33 AM
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Yeah, but it's partly for company (like @Gravel_Roads said), and partly for your own good. Toughen up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:24 AM
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I mostly agree with @Gravel_Roads, but there are times when older men do feel a... weakness in you. Basically that you are soft. It's not bullying, and not much to do with "hierarchy". it's more like... teaching. I've been on both ends of this, and I can tell you one thing: It's very obvious when you meet a dude, who doesn't spend much time in men's company (I mean, real men's) We ALL become soft. Especially if we spend a lot of time exclusively around women. Getting checked regularly is healthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:18 AM
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So, what are you advocating for OP? For "young women" to date these 45+ year old men? Why? What is best for both men and women, is to date within their age-group. Which best matches fertility, energy, life-span and maturity levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:32 AM
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It doesn't signal low value at all. If a man is looking for committed relationship, one can assume he's in a position to support a committed relationship. It also shows what you want straight up, without games. It shows confidence, ambition, decisiveness and maturity. All the attractive traits. Women aren't turned off by this, some of them just flee from commitment. But that's good. You don't want that kind of women anyways. So it's good to filter them out from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:17 AM
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We expect our next to be better than our previous ones. When we commit, we feel like we are settling. I think this alone proves there's no such thing as "settling", unless you want to call literally every committed relationship "settling". If you try to find "the best", no one will EVER be good enough for you. Even if you think that way at the beginning, you'll begin doubting the relationship as soon as the novelty wears off, or you get into your first real argument. And yeah, I do know that man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:27 AM
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Money and status are somewhat linked to it, but they are a different topic. In short, yes. It is about the power balance. You can talk LONG theories about the relationship & attraction between men and women, but it all ultimately comes down to power balance. As a man, if you keep this balance tipped in your favour, you'll retain her attraction and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:48 PM
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Really now? Pretty much every RP post, every RP podcast, etc. goes on and on about "body count". P.S. I could agree that hook-up culture is bad, but how don't RP people see the hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:57 AM
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It honestly sounds to me like a funny thing to say, especially coming from RP. I mean, it's RP that tend to drove on and on about how supposedly hard it is for dudes to get laid, but then they shame and guilt women for... getting laid with dudes. How does this even make sense? You want women with low body count, but then you also want them to give you easy sex? Where's the logic bros?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:40 AM
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Depends on how you deliver that compliment, and what exactly you are complimenting about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:41 AM
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Tell that to girls who grew up with a bunch of older brothers. Even other people can tell if that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:50 PM
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On one hand, an adult woman would probably be better support during a girl's teenage years, as she develops into a young woman. Secondly, with only a father, a girl may grow up a bit tomboy-ish... although girl friends could be of use there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:19 PM
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I mean, why not? Who knows what happened to him, he may be saying the truth. And talking about people not responding for a while... When it comes to me, I've got stuff to do. Sorry, but even if we matched, you are a stranger to me, and life takes priority. I will answer/reach out when I am free.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:15 AM
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That's an elaborate way of saying you want a dildo in Uranus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:14 PM
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Even if this isn't sarcastic, which it likely is, why would you be upset by it? This woman, whoever she is, did you a favour by exposing herself as a walking red-flag with such a post. Have a laugh and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:56 PM
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that could be the best solution to the intimacy problem so many people are facing Yes, and instead of improving yourself and looking for real relationships, you'll resort to using robots. It's basically like going to grind in an MMO, instead of working on your education/career/life. Also, no matter how much you try to imitate human form, a machine will always remain a machine. How can a machine give you intimacy? You can either pretend that this bizarre escapism method is a relationship, or find…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:46 PM
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Testosterone vs estrogen, yes. It's not about "emotional maturity", it's about the fact that boys are affected by hormones a LOT more, from a younger age. Girls don't have to deal with that. Talking about physical maturity... Both girls and boys become reproductively-viable at around 13, technically, although girls don't develop enough to safely go through pregnancy until full maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:04 PM
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I think this kinda plays into my earlier point - boys become... interested in girls earlier. That, on top of their desire to be "cool" makes them CHOOSE decisions, that get them worse grades. In other words, it's not that boys are worse at studies. It's that they are distracted by other things, and don't put as much effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:45 AM
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Yeah, and it used to be (maybe still is) that girls outperform boys at school. But something happens around late teens/early 20s, cuz among the young people I've met... women, for the most part, seemed to have less of a drive and energy. Granted, maybe my experience doesn't apply universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:38 AM
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Based on my own personal experience, IMO it's a myth that women "mature faster". Boys start... showing libido... at a much earlier age, and as for maturity in young adults... it's about comparable, though even then, young men are often times more driven, more responsible, thinking ahead in life, etc. Also, I do not think there's a need to justify "age gaps" in dating, as long as you are both adults. (There is NO justification otherwise) Granted, I would find it weird if you were old enough to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:22 AM
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I agree that feminine men have it harder to create, and maintain, attraction and respect, but what you describe isn't a "feminine man". Being territorial, possessive, confrontational are all natural signs of a higher testosterone level in men, as stated here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031938418300131 What is actually a feminine trait, is being passive and "accepting".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:06 AM
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Can you even explain why you think that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:58 AM
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MGTOW is a tiny part of the population, that's basically only vocal online. To answer your question... Maybe because a married man acts more rationally, doesn't take such huge risks? Because he knows that, for the first time in his life, he's responsible not only for himself. There're others relying on him. Also, wives take care of their husbands. How many times have I seen women dragging their husbands to hospitals :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:16 PM
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1) Most things discussed here are opinions. What "stats" do you want for that? E.g.: "I think women should dress more modestly!" "Where are the SOURCES?!!1" 2) Confirmation bias. We can all pull sources supporting our views. What then? Do our sources cancel each other out and we are back to square one? 3) It doesn't benefit discussion. What, if my opinion doesn't have linked studies to support it, it's invalid? I really hate it when people treat "Source?" as a supposedly valid counter. Granted, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:17 AM
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What? I said that to a man, any woman is naturally more attractive than another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:37 PM
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For me, a dude? Even a 3/10 woman is hotter than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:59 PM
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It's a scam by the government, has nothing to do with women. "Grind" through your prime years to try and reach that ever-further retirement age, when you are old, tired and no longer capable of anything? That's a scam bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:38 PM
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Technically, every woman is hotter than a dude. With the exception of whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:41 AM
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There's a "gender war" going on? Since when? surrogacy artificial wombs. The latter doesn't exist, and it's a question if it ever will. The former is a negligible % of all child-births. Young men are unmotivated, don't work much, don't attend college. A problem that affects entire society. Women don't benefit from this, which you can clearly hear from all the complaining. And men do work, but the economical situation changed so much, that normal work isn't anywhere near as profitable, as it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:36 AM
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Unfalsifiable? Feminism is an umbrella term, that applies to many different ideologies. I mean, there even "generations" of it. I don't agree with any of them, but not all are inherently misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:44 PM
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But do they all have the same understanding of what "feminism" is? Are they all misandrists? Probably not. But then, US does sound like a weird place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:25 AM
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I actually don't think there's such a thing as a perfect liar. And it's even harder to hide something from people close to you. You'd see changes in her behaviour and attitude towards you. You'd know something not right. Perhaps I’m just skeptical or anxious about what my partner could do while away. Let go of this fear, my dude. Even if she did cheat, it wouldn't be your fault. Nothing justifies it, no decent person would cheat. Life goes on, with or without her. She has the privilege of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:04 AM
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You are making this sound like it's some wide-scale issue, when in reality, "manosphere" and "feminists" are two tiny groups of people that aren't very vocal beyond internet echo-chambers. Granted, I am not an american, but I actually haven't met a genuine in-your-face feminist woman, ever. Also, talking about the source you linked, the "evil" comments shown are actually mostly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:57 AM
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Did you actually try to date bro? And even if the dating situation really was that hopeless, I'd personally choose to remain single, rather than use such underhanded tactics. You don't need this shite to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:41 AM
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Well then, I am sorry to hear that, and I hope that person at least informs any people he dates beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:38 AM
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Then don't date those single mothers. Look for women who have similar goals, at least in terms of family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:37 AM
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You aren't a "loser" for not having had a relationship till your 30s. There are lots of possible reasons why that may have been, not to mention that nobody has a right to tell you when to get into relatoonships. What does make you a loser is being so desperate about it, that you are completely willing to use and abuse other people for... what? To get laid? What then? "Love myself". All you did your entire life was "love yourself". Too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:35 AM
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Ofc attractive people are... well... attractive. Big wow. Point is, that it's not some doom and gloom for shorter, or less attractive men, unlike what Black Pill would like you to think. Your experiment is also too small to make any substantial conclusions, not to mention that it's based on your subjective perspective on who's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:28 AM
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For one, because you don't have unlimited time. Men have limited fertile age too. For another, because what OP suggests is using another person. Lastly, you blame women of this, yet you want to do it yourself? Don't you see the hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:20 AM
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Yes, I know that in modern day even people pushing their 40s still think like teenagers. Our ancestors are rolling in their graves. You don't have an eternity, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:16 AM
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First time I hear it, though I wouldn't be entirely surprised. Either way, it's not a good advice to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:08 AM
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We are talking about 35 - 45 year old men, as per OP's given scenario. It's way past time to stop acting like a teenager, look at relationships responsibly, and create a fruitful and meaningful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:07 AM
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At that age you should have the responsibility and maturity to properly commit, instead of playing such silly and AH-ish games. Your goal should be to marry and create a family. Or are you going to be a perpetual teenager? And even if you are younger - don't play around with people. If you are not attracted to her, don't get involved. Think about other people, not just yourself, for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:59 AM
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Most? No. Many, especially among teens? Probably. But it's more complicated than just it being about women. I mean, modern western society is very sexualized, and having a "V card" is almost seen like something shameful for dudes. Societal pressure. Talking about Japan... Lots of men in Japan give up on dating because of a tough economical situation. Society there is more conservative, and people look at relationships more responsibly. A guy, who's struggling financially, will often refuse to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:43 AM
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Nope. In europe it's only 16%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:25 AM
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All of these characteristics do not appeal the female gaze. Mostly wrong, at least from my experience. I'll try to explain as well as I can manage. Eye contact is important - shows you aren't afraid, and lets you better gauge her signals. In many cases, making her lower her eyes first is a good thing for building attraction. Monotone voice... High pitched voice is a bigger turn-off. Many men tend to unintentionally raise their voice higher when nervous. Mumbling under your nose is also a turn-of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:18 AM
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You can make up such theories to try and rationalize human relationships and attraction, but reality quickly proves you wrong with only too many examples. All you need to do is turn off the computer and TV, go outside, socialize. Plenty of average/below average dudes with not much money, but in a healthy long-term relationship with girls, that internet communities would call "out of their league". Goes right against all the RP/Black-Pill theories. Why does this happen? Because humans aren't anim…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:07 AM
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I wouldn't call it malice, it's simply selfishness. And yes, both men and women are selfish at times, often without realizing it. Just look at how many dudes here want women to be "traditional", but are entirely unwilling to be traditional men themselves. I recently commented on how it's natural, that a man has to take proper care of his woman, and all the RP converged on me, even claiming I can't call myself "purple pill" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:36 AM
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You talk about overweight women in US, but you include men in your OP. Obviously your obesity numbers will be less if you only include women. You seem to be really bad with numbers. ... what? I am asking where did you get these numbers from. Do you have problems with reading comprehension?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:42 PM
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First of all, what are these numbers? 42% of American population is obese and 30.7% is overweight This is all population, both men and women. How much is just women? Only 3.28% of population fits both of these and if "attractive" is also a criteria, which is anyone who is a 7 or above then it comes down to 0.0984%. Lol where do these numbers come from? How do you quantify "attractive"? What is a "7"? Or let's say the criteria is "just not be ugly", which is anyone who is below 3 then it's 0.2296…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:18 AM
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Did you perhaps misunderstand my comment? I didn't say to chase, or not chase, a "chad". What I said is: 1) get to know a guy 2) don't rush a relationship 3) figure out if he fits the criteria I listed All kinds of guys fit this criteria. And there is a decent bunch of them out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:37 AM
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I get where you are going, OP, and I agree that women should think about further relationship, rather than immediate attraction, when choosing a guy to marry. However, a "meek, beta" guy isn't necessarily going to be a good father and husband, and neither is a "dominant" guy necessarily going to be a bad one. If you want to select a good man, you have to be patient and get to know him. Take relationships slow, don't jump into bed with him, and look beyond the guy's looks and bravado: is he patie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:02 AM
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Most important traits: 1) 25. Obviously she needs to be interested 2) 14. Humility and ego awareness 3) 9. Integrity (sticks to their word and convictions) and consistency 4) 1. Compassion, kindness and empathy 5) 8. Physical attractiveness 7) 22. Openness and clear communication Turn offs: 1) 21. Impulsivity and craziness 2) 19. Lots of past relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:51 AM
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You are putting yourself down, thinking this way. A woman isn't the most important thing in your life. And neither will she appreciate, or be attracted to your desperation. Develop your life bro. Find a real meaning, that's independent of any person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:39 AM
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I don't know what kind of feminists you've seen, because the ones I've seen are ALL ABOUT women's "empowerment", which apparently translates to women being promiscuous, and shunning any kind of responsibility. Feminists are the ones pushing for infant-murder too, after all. Honestly, in this way TRP and feminism are very similar, just with different targets for their hate. But that's another topic... Ultimately, feminism made it easier to get laid, but it pretty much destroyed relationships as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:23 AM
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It has nothing to do with red-pill. She just wants you to be rough and mean with her, to satisfy her fetish. You weren't losing her "shit tests". You weren't playing her games and she was upset by that. And Andrew Tate is her idea of masculinity? It's straight laughable. Is it masculine to constantly act loud and obnoxious in a pathetic attempt to reafirm one's masculinity? Simply said, the girl is delusional. If you are looking for LTR, think of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:23 AM
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I have no doubt all you westerners will vehemently disagree, but... Way I see it, double standards naturally exist and always will. Why? Because men and women are fundamentally different. We have different roles. Yes, a man is supposed to keep his shit together, because he's the backbone of the family/relationship/whatever. He's supposed to be able to handle himselft, because it's up to him to take care of his woman and his children. This is what it means to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:53 PM
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Being stoic doesn't mean you cannot be affectionate with your woman, or that you cannot show a level of emotion at things happening in front of you. You aren't a fking brick-wall. Showing a level of emotion is ok. Letting yourself go and becoming a crybaby is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:49 PM
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government should stay out of our lives and our bedrooms Sure. you could not reproduce without getting married, or else you were burned at the stake. Where? When? Women literally were not allowed to leave their homes Where? When? you had to go through the whole courting process and talking to her father and getting permission In select cases, in certain times, in certain countries. That was not ever the norm accross the world, as you imply. people regularly have kids before marriage and have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:43 PM
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Western dating is like going to a bakery, ordering a pastry, eating 90% of it, then deciding you didn't like it, returning it and moving to the next. A healthy relationship is based on responsibility, commitment, duty. Not lust, not material greed, or whatever else westerners call "love". If you get into relationship, see it through to the end. Work through the hardships. The whole "casual hook-up/relationship" culture is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:08 AM
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Not really. As I said, it depends on musculature, fat and genetics. The particular women I was talking about, I know for a fact they didn't have any surgeries. It's also a bit funny how this sub treats the age of 30 as if that's being old lol. 30s is still peak of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:47 PM
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lol. It's called keeping a healthy weight and musculature. And, I guess, genetics play a role here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:10 PM
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Everyone has a few wrinkles dude. Real signs of aging don't appear till around mid-30s. And I've seen women in their 30s with firmer breasts than girls in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:10 PM
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Most beautiful women I've met so far were mid - late 20s. At 19 they are teenagers and have the kid look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:12 PM
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I have to disagree. Married? Maybe. Issues?... younger people are less likely to seriously commit, less likely to be responsible. I even prefer women in the 28 - 30 years range.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:31 AM
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In other words: Single men, younger/same/older. How does this differ from the choices of a younger woman? And if a man is single at 35, you assume he was always single? You mentioned "divorced" already. How about recently out of relationship? The only real argument against women settling down in later age is reduced fertility. But it ultimately is their choice. If you don't want to settle down with an older woman, don't. That's also your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:40 AM
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What literature? Erotic novels? Then I can believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:58 PM
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none of us would get hard looking at new pussy Most of us in relationships aren't doing that. This is a horny teenager's dream, more like. No offense intended. Your interpretation of what's good for the species is naive and looked at through the lens of modern morality. What's modern about something, that existed for millennia? Sexual revolution only happened back in the 60s. Till then, it was all about the religious nuclear family. And before the Industrial Revolution, it was basically the exte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:32 PM
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What's best for the species are stable households with 2 parents raising the kids, and the grandparents/cousins/etc being nearby. What "good evidence"? And where? Even the indigenous african tribes have people mating for life. And that's the lifestyle we've seen for millennia. If "communal sex" was EVER that beneficial, we'd have seen it more throughout history. EDIT: to add to this: The female orgasm likely evolved to require a woman a good pounding for a couple of hours before she could orgasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:42 PM
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Except human relationships never worked that way. Our basic instincts make us possessive and territorial. The more testosterone, the more this becomes apparent. Women always needed men to provide for them and protect them. They were incredibly vulnerable during pregnancy and shortly after. Men would not be willing to commit to a single woman if they weren't sure the offspring was theirs. Simply said, a human male would've rather killed the competitors, than allow his woman to sleep with others. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:34 AM
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Why is it abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:36 AM
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In the real world, between teenagers, it is pretty common. Even if your feelings are hurt by it. Also, a 19 year old, a teenager - a pedo? Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:23 AM
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She's going to be very happy when he's an old man, and she's his caretaker. Or when they struggle to conceive. Or when she's a widow in her 40s/50s. Age gaps are ok, within reason. And I may not be able to force her to ditch the guy when she's 18, but I also don't have to agree with it. And I can also have a talk, man to man, with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:21 AM
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19 and 15 isn't even uncommon. Touch some grass dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:18 AM
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If you cannot debate, why are you here? OP asked a legitimate question - was it "manipulation" and "grooming" just because he was older? Couldn't you have simply said NO?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:17 AM
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Is it really surprising, OP? It's the internet. Lots of people here are just projecting their own issues, or acting out on their prejudices. Reddit particularly is notorious for it's "advice" from people, who cannot understand any nuance. Personally, I don't think age gaps are necessarily a problem by themselves. Older woman, younger man? There's not much of a way for a woman to "groom" and "traumatize" a younger boy. In fact, most boys have fantasized about being with attractive older women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:12 AM
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I never claimed such nonsense. "Equality" is an american thing. Rest of the world sees the world as it is... Scandinavia needs some more reality checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:04 AM
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Disagree, especially in this hypothetical case of your post. Women are more vulnerable in general, but it's especially the case if she's significantly younger and less experienced. I am not personally against age gaps IF the man is actually a good man, who will be very patient, take good care of her, and not get mad when she acts immature. Basically taking a semi-parental role for her. A lot of men aren't that, however. Even in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:55 AM
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I agree to an extent. If my daughter brought home a guy of my age, there'd be trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:50 AM
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And don't you think something like this is a guy's fault? He's allowing himself to be manipulated and used. He's the older one. No one's holding you hostage in such relationships. And if you are so desperate that you accept being used and manipulated, you have only yourself to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:42 AM
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I think both men and women can be selfish, but in different ways. Tbh, I think all women have some vanity and need for validation, though only part of it is due to their nature. Take in mind, that from a very young age, a girl learns that her beauty is what holds value. And it alone holds value. A boy (provided he has a good father) learns, that he needs to work to make himself valuable. Although this paradigm seems to be shifting these times. Look at body builders, models, etc. Those dudes are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:01 PM
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Because a "player" is a child, to whom responsibility is like Cross to a vampire. He thinks only about himself, and he chases that initial thrill. Nothing more. These kind of dudes is why girls need fathers in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:56 PM
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"Research" may say it, but real life shows again and again, that spoiled kids are the worst. There's a whole history showing it. Modern "research" isn't worth shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:44 PM
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I don't think "youth" is ever an excuse. Even children get scolded for their fk ups. Having said that, modern people are largely infantilized, and anyone below 25 is basically a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:42 PM
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the system What "system" though? We are simply talking about relationships between individuals, not some systems. which has ranked them at the bottom And how has this "system" done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:43 PM
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What control? Control of man's own decisions? He's not forcing a woman to adhere to his boundaries, or meet his expectations. He's simply deciding whether HE will remain in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:39 PM
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here’s the thing- the male “friend” isn’t having his intimacy needs met I don't think that's the case. Heard plenty of stories of even non-single guy "friends" acting this way. Honestly, I don't particularly blame them. As I said, I think this is just natural dynamic between men and women. you can find female enthusiasts of pretty much anything. I'm into hiking, XC and mountain biking. Sure there are women who love to do something similar, but I haven't met a single one, who could keep up. Nor w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:09 PM
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I don't even consider myself RP, yet I can break this down. Wide-eyed, innocent women with expectations that don't exceed having a place to live and a husband whose children she can bear. No, what guys want is a non-promiscuous woman, who's family oriented, loyal, and doesn't have too much pride to be a good partner. Values that, funnily enough, can be applied to men as well. I suspect this talk about bodycounts, cock carousels and "the wall" is in part a rejection of a woman's autonomy as it in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:50 PM
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How is rejecting someone "controlling"? Are you implying a man isn't allowed to have expectations, boundaries, and decide who to date/not date?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:42 PM
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it sounded like you were implying that all male/female friendships involve hassle. Wasn't implying, that's what I said. Only used OP as an example... that's honestly quite common. I've seen way too many examples of the awkwardness, jealousy, etc. Felt it myself when I started talking to girls, it was clearly progressing, and the male "friend" is passive-aggressive, and trying to play the little game of competition with me, whenever we meet him. Awkwardness, jealousy... for a friendship that does…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:22 PM
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I don't feel attraction towards a majority of women. Which, if true, could explain your friendship. I never hid my jealousy. I acknowledge it fully Didn't hide your jealousy you say... did you display it to her, every time she was with a guy? I am curious... what did she actually think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:10 PM
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Op himself clearly outlined the hassle he had to go through to "overcome" his jealousy. On top of that, what is that kind of friendship like? You are going to be an "emotional sponge" for her to vent about her relationships. Which you won't really wanna hear, nor will you be able to relate or give proper consolation. Not to mention, that you are going to be a 3rd wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:06 PM
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For starters, I don't like the majority of women romantically. So there is that. I am talking about attraction. If you are straight, clearly you are attracted to them. You control this attraction, but to say it's not there is to lie. I dealt with it, talked about it with my therapist, and talked about it with my friend herself, too. I interacted with the emotions head-on. As I said, you coped. You just convinced yourself there's no jealousy, when there actually was. And you even needed a therapi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:43 PM
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I have to disagree on this. I think for a man to be friends with a woman is too much hassle for too little pay-off. You can be friendly at work, school, etc. But not in every day life. You may say "people can like each other just platonically". I thought so too, at a time, but one has to admit the truth at some point. Men and women are wired to like each other romantically. Even if a woman isn't physically attractive, if you want her as a friend, it means there's still something attractive about…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:23 PM
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Uh, yes. Let's be honest - we do go for the hottest girl available.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:40 AM
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it will always be between them and god, when they decide to terminate an unborn child it isn’t our place to decide for them, it’s between them and god Excuse me, what? First of, a father has a say in what happens to his child. Secondly, as an apparent man of God, you should oppose abortion absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:50 AM
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Not so. Majority of people don't even think in terms of "settling". They happen upon a person who they end up falling in love with and that's it. The "league" standing doesn't even come to their mind. The only ones talking about SMVs and ratings and shit are Pill communities online.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 11:20 AM
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Do you people talk to your grandmother's? Older women in general? Yes actually. My grandma (may she rest in peace) was born in early 20th century. And plenty of my aunts have been born around 50s. Women weren't "happy" in those relationships. Yes they were. There was actual respect and love in those relationships, unlike the selfishness and lust/greed of today. My grandparents spent their entire lives together, and even at the end they were very fond of each other. It was inspiring, watching the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:57 AM
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Women are your enemies? Bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:44 AM
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It's not "defeated acceptance", it's that you touched a topic, that goes WAY beyond relationships between men and women, OP. I am neither happy, nor despairing over it, it's just the reality of the matter. And I pointed out 2 solutions. Also Family court wants to give you 50/50 In what reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:08 PM
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Where are men disadvantaged systematically? Primarily the family courts... or courts in general, considering incredibly easy SA allegations that, even proven wrong, destroy a man's work, education, reputation, relationships... life. But it's not the kind of thing you'll solve by "support groups" and nonsense like that. Neither will you change the government and courts through elections, as by now, everyone with a brain should realize elections are a useless circus. Anonymous "elections"... it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:58 PM
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Not to entirely disagree, but who's fault is it? For almost a century now, women have been fed propaganda that they can and should compete with men, that the kind of relationship that kept women happy for centuries was "evil patriarchy", and that the path to happiness is being "strong and independent", even though modern women end up far more used and miserable than they were before feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:53 PM
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Oxygen is absolutely a need, as we cannot survive without it. Sex, when it's just done for pleasure of it, isn't vital to us. What I called animalistic wasn't sex per se, but the inability to control your urges. Our intelligence, understanding of the consequences of our actions, and our morality are the things that set us apart from animals. By giving in to our urges, we are throwing away these qualities and acting like animals. One could make the case, that denying ourselves what we desire prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:45 PM
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Low birth rates are indeed bad for the society. However, are women (alone) to blame for that? It takes two to form a relationship. If there are problems with relationships on a wide scale, the fault lies with both sexes, not either one. Birh rates are low because modern society twisted the concept of relationships and sex. Everything is... "casual" now. And "casual" really means - no reaponsibility. Chasing quick, shallow pleasure. Children are treated like... side effect, that needs to be avoid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:17 PM
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Which part of what I said was "holy"? The snarky tone doesn't discredit me, buddy. Other than that, I don't necessarily disagree with what you say here, BUT... none of it refutes my statement - sex is not a need. Also, you talk about creating new life, but the OP clearly isn't talking about that. He's talking about sex "without strings". some astral being Lol that wasn't at all what I said. When I said "being of higher intellect", I simply meant to differentiate between humans and animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:09 PM
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There is no such thing as "sexual need". There is desire, urge. Animalistic urge that, as a being of higher intellect, you should control. You control your urges, not the other way around. sexual activity and validation How about life-long partnership, connection, family? A purpose in life, that's not just about yourself? You seem to think in terms of "what can I get". It's wrong. As an adult, think "what can I give". I categorically disagree with the notion that "boy becomes a man when he lays …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:09 PM
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If a guy actually wants a girl, there has to be progression. everyone else is using the app. Exactly. Point is, you want to NOT be everyone else. Lots of dudes message her on all those apps. Few, if any, have her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:18 AM
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Shifted goalposts? I was talking about housework the whole time. Which is what your posts also seemed to be talking about. And both of us are judging things based on our experience. If it's valid for you, it's valid for me too. And the mere fact there are so many posts complaining about men's lack of action around the house is telling. Even you referred to it as "astronomical".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:40 AM
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Yes, Jesus our Lord is coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:36 AM
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Sure buddy. What I was saying, is that the complaints about modern men not doing sh1t around the house are valid, based on my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:33 AM
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And where's the data for your "astronomical levels of bitching"? Just like you, I don't have it. But I've seen lots of posts, and I've talked to young people irl. Which more or less confirms it. Young dudes avoid responsibility like vampires avoid the Cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:24 AM
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At the same time, as a man, you don't have to take a woman out to expensive restaurants. A date doesn't have to be at a restaurant at all. But either way I wouldn't have a woman pay for me on our date. And talking about "not doing enough around the house"... I've seen many posts about adult men, who act like children. Some of them don't even work, but expect their gfs/wives to do everything around the house, and dote on them like they are babies. These "men" never grew beyond infancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:02 AM
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First of, the post doesn't really say if you even try to date. Do you go out anywhere? Do you try Tinder and the like? You don't need to be "toxic", although it depends on what exactly you call toxic. The word is so misused these days... "tOxIc mAsCuliNiTy" lol. Certainly don't even start with drugs. And you should not pretend to be somebody you are not. Fake tough guys are easy to spot. Not to mention, that there's no virtue in being a fkboy. You seem to be thinking in terms of "what to do to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:44 AM
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If your only criteria is "don't be fat", it is still "low standards", though, especially if we consider the world beyond US. Excess weight is a direct result of one's own actions in the vast majority of cases. And it is a problem. And while I am against harrassing people, I am also against downplaying the problem by calling fatties "big" or "plus size". If one doesn't like being called a fattie, one should start fixing it, instead of blaming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:20 AM
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Quite the contrary. "Nice guys" are liars, who only say what they think women want to hear. And they are despised. Being upfront is a show of confidence. And most people, men and women, are far worse liars than they think they are. It's easy to see when someone's manipulating you. Lastly, lying to get into a woman's panties is unbecoming of a man. You'd have to sell your pride completely. May as well lop off your balls then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:23 PM
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Lol never did I harass anybody mate. Nor do I have to "believe" anything, I am speaking from experience. And judging from your tone, it's about time for you to touch some grass bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:31 AM
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Never really used these apps much, but I'd say - stop taking them so seriously. Stop trying so hard to impress ppl. Dudes dressed all "smart" look like they are looking for a job interview. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:23 AM
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Nah, I am talking about proper "dad bods". In general dudes who spend too much effort/money on their looks seem to be a turn-off. And unsurprisingly. It's not manly and it shows vanity. And not every guy out there is into casual hooking up in the first place. Far from it. EDIT: for clarification, I am not saying you shouldn't look after yourself. But there's a difference between looking after yourself, and being straight up in love with the look of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:20 AM
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I don't think women commit DV because of rejection. It's most likely one of, or any combination of: 1) Higher emotionality 2) higher neuroticism 3) physical violence from women being generally more acceptable, sometimes even seen as funny or cute. 4) women not being checked due to #3.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:16 AM
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Had a few friends and colleagues, who were overweight and generally not that good-looking, but were charming pretty girls just the same, when we hung out. Hell, I've heard women even say they prefer a "dad bod" over chiselled six-pack mutiple times. Simply said, whoever said that men's attraction is visual and women's is... auditory, are onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:11 AM
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That "spark" can be created in various ways. How many times I've seen dudes with bellies and double-chins create it just through confidence and... charisma and good social skills... much like OP said. Human attraction is quite a nuanced matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:50 AM
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Not only that, most people don't have OF to begin with. Which is why you shouldn't judge people in general based on OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:49 AM
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Keto bro. Keto is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:41 AM
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What accountability? Lots of guys around here like to blame everyone else (mostly women), rather than acknowledge their own faults. And excuses for what? For women having standards and expecting us to act like men? I don't need to excuse those. They are reasonable. allowing them to just do whatever. Never did I say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:51 PM
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Ah yes, the zoomer logic - a mature and responsible man who doesn't victimize himself and takes accountability for his fk-ups is a "simp".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:24 PM
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"Obey" is not the right word here, as guys don't exactly command you. But you should show more caring and respect to your husband, than your boss. Who is your boss to you even? Oh, he provides all those things? Your husband provides that and more, in most cases. He's taking responsibility for you 24/7, while you play your little pretend "independent" game. Who does sh1t around your house, car, etc.? And it's not just about what he provides. Your husband is your life partner, your family. Compare…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:45 AM
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Westen society is extremely critical of men who don’t meet high expectations of “masculinity”, and many people still associate queer men with being “less than” straight men. Western? West Europe and North America are probably the most tolerant of this in the world. Entire East Europe, and the Baltics, are very conservative and very set in their ways. They never accepted the LGBT movement. And I think I don't even have to talk about the Middle East...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:03 PM
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Preface this with saying that I am not using "you" personally for OP. I am speaking in general terms. Now, let's get into this... You shouldn't feed anybody's ego, it ain't a virtue. And what sort of validation do you want? For her to call you "good boy" and pat you on the head? Like a dog? A woman will encourage and support you when you are actually doing something, showing ambition and drive. You may say: "but this is conditional REEEEE!!!". Well kinda, but what do you expect? That she'll be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:16 AM
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Feminism movement wasn't really started by women to begin with, but by people who saw benefit in getting the second half of the population into the work-force. Weakening the family structure was added bonus. Make women more like men Neither men nor women should be promiscuous. Or rather, one being promiscuous inevitably leads to the other also being promiscuous. If men weren't promiscuous, women could not be promiscuous either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:50 PM
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What is actually "lame", is participating in an activity YOU KNOW is bad for you just because of the... social pressure? As I said, it's a choice, dude. I had a bunch of situations where friends/acquaitances were seemingly getting outraged that I wasn't touching alcohol at hang-outs. Held my ground regardless. It's funny, really, how one has to justify themselves for not drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:22 AM
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Women don't take our attention for granted at all. Many of us are just stupid enough to give it to them for scot-free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:56 AM
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You can go to a bar and not drink any alcohol you know. And I'll tell you what alcohol is. It's a choice. You choose to go down the rabbit hole leading to destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:53 AM
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a person with genuine self worth and self respect should lose feelings easy No, that would be a person who never cared in the first place. If you really care about someone, you still may decide it's better for you two to be apart, but you won't "lose feelings" quickly, or ever. I use Women as the example because it is they who set the guidelines for men to play around. Oh really? Are you implying women don't chase after men just as well? You've never heard of lovestruck girls willing to go to an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:24 AM
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Many people just come here to vent. And it does give you a glimpse at their thought process. And what's there? Hypocrisy, entitlement, selfishness... Where does it come from? My thinking is - desperation and lack of self-worth. Honestly, I feel sorry for these dudes, but at the same time, I can't help but feel frustrated at their show of weakness and thoughtlessness. I'm a man myself, I had difficulties in life. Didn't blame other ppl though, even if they were mean to me. I knew I was the one fk…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:27 AM
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Why do you assume you'll be worse? And why are you so worried about sex in the first place? Real life's not like p0rn, and there's a lot more to relationships than sex. There's gonna be a bunch of steps before that, you know. Instead of that, focus on overcoming your insecurity and building real connections with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:53 AM
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... really? Do women's "rights, agency, and bodily autonomy" mean sexual immorality, deviancy and animalistic behaviour? Really? What I was talking about, was returning to moral relationships. Something that would benefit both men and women. Maybe even more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:42 AM
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Relationships were declining, with divorce, infidelity and promiscuity rates rising, ever since birth control got widely accepted (around beginning of 20th century), and the "Sexual Revolution" of the 60s only made things worse. What we see now is just the culmination of a century of relationship (and morality) deterioration. We are returning to monke my dudes. As for relationships being an "obligation"... you choose your own path in life. You are free to not pursue relationships. And sure, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:36 AM
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Societal pressure may play a role, but mostly it's just horniness. The best thing we could do is undo the effects of the sexual revolution. Get back to more moral types of relationship, when sex before marriage was generally taboo. Problem is, that for today's hyper-sexual society even suggesting this seems outrageous (as reactions to this comment will prove). And save for removing all birth control measures, it would be difficult to bring the society back to that mindset. Take away access to ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:23 AM
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I don't think this manifests in old men, particularly. I think youth is more prone to this. Results of sexual addiction. The usual stuff eventually won't stimulate you the same anymore, and you'll start increasingly depraved acts. This is why couples begin engaging in various "fetishes".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:29 AM
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But if grogs are so powerful and full of testosterone, nothing's gonna stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:22 AM
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If, in your scenario, men are giving birth, and women are out of the equation in terms of relationships, then women serve no purpose for the species. The reason we now need both men and women is because we have different biological functions, that are equally as important. But if men can suddenly bear children, there's no point in having women around. You've written yourself into a corner, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:19 AM
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What would be done about grogs? A better question is - what would be done about women? As they basically no longer serve a purpose in your fantasy scenario. What do you propose should be done about men, OP? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:59 AM
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There are impossible men's beauty standards though. You think guys like Chris Hemsworth or Arnie himself are natural? You think you can achieve that physique naturally? But similar male physiques are being displayed EVERYWHERE today. It's far more unreal than any female model. Having said that, yes you must take care of yourself. But it's pretty simple: Take care of your diet, get plenty of sleep, get plenty of time outdoors, get plenty of physical activity, discipline yourself to avoid excessiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:02 PM
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Then that tells me your "friend" is more important to you than your man. That tells all about your views and expectations for a relationship. Friends come and go in life. Your partner is someone who you may build a family and live your life with. If you put your friendship above that, I know you aren't someone I wanna be with. And tbh I find it weird that you kept a guy around for 16 years in a "casual" relationship... does he have a real partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:54 AM
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Of course you'll label anything I say on this matter insecure. Even if it's just common sense. It's disrespectful, because she's acting like she's still single, showing lack of consideration and commitment. But then again. You guys are afraid of calling your woman, your woman. Why do I expect common sense from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:33 AM
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You are afraid to call your woman, your woman. Lord save us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:30 AM
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Well, for one. Trust is earned, even in a relationship. For another, OP is not "assuming" anything. He just explained her his expectations, right at the beginning of the relationship, and she agreed. That's a show of commitment. And such shows of commitment is what builds trust in a relationship. When a woman actually respects and values you, she'll apply these boundaries herself. She'll naturally stop hanging out with, or create clear boundaries with her male friends, won't engage in flirts wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:26 AM
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Because that's acting like she's still single. What I want is a show of commitment. When a girl actually values you, you don't even have to verbally put up these boundaries - she'll naturally create boundaries with her male friends, stop looking for validation from other guys, etc. If on the other hand, even after I gave her my expectations for the relationship, my boundaries, she fights me on them and does her own thing regardless, I see that as disrespect to me and a sign she's not committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:08 AM
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If that's ok for you, fine. But as I said before, it has nothing to do with "insecurity". It's about respect and taking the relationship seriously. What's more interesting to me, is that all you people are getting so upset with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:54 AM
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I don't know what to tell you dude. That's just how men interact with each other generally. You must not like being around other dudes then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:50 AM
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I don't think so tbh. I think it's more about just those people being awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:48 AM
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Your boundaries are rooted in insecurity. Or rather, self-respect. Something that's sorely lacking in today's weak men. ​ If she disrespects you, you leave Right. Hanging out in night clubs, or with her male friends, is disrespecting me. Which is why, if my girl was to insist on doing it, I'd leave. Glad we could finally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:23 PM
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Lower class men are less likely to exclude , but I also see them playing more “toxic masculinity “ social games , like punching each others shoulders , when shaking hands squeezing it as hard as they can (in their 30s! Wtf), playing knuckles etc What now? "lower class"? This is just boys being boys. And 30s - YES. Not just that, 40s and 50s and sometimes even 60s! ​ If you don’t know how to play the social game , women will think you’re evil. So women think autistic people are evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:11 PM
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Ah twilight. Where even when Jakey boy tries to move on, Bella goes after him, only to hit him with "I'm with Eddie". Fking hell. The only character that made sense and was a decent human being in that story was Chief Swan.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:49 PM
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The man being the "head of the house/family" was predominantly the case throughout history. At the same time, I never said whether my view was "traditional" or not. Don't care how you label it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:55 PM
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Hmm? What issue do you have with my view of a relationship? And what is traditional in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:43 PM
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Oh this is just funny. Someone who's afraid to stand up for himself, afraid to establish boundaries, calls others cowards. Establishing boundaries in a relationship is the opposite of cowardice. How am I "afraid to lose her" if I'm telling her of my expectations for the relationship, and that I am walking away if the those expectations aren't met?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:42 PM
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There's also nothing wrong with establishing boundaries. I have a right to choose who I am in relationship with. If we are in an exclusive relationship, yet a woman runs around night clubs with her male friends (just as she did when she was single), she's obviously not respecting me or the relationship, so I will walk away. Then she can do whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:55 AM
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You seem to know, and care, more about this "alpha" stuff than either me or OP. And you seem to assume I am "red-pill" for some reason too. You don't have to be in a relationship with someone Exactly. Which is what me, and OP are talking about. OP also mentioned that he discussed the boundaries with his girl from the beginning.... so exactly what you are talking about. Perfect example of an assumption driven by insecurity That's the scenario you pointed out. A girl who has male friends and goes …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:52 AM
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Man is the head of the family. He takes responsibility for his wife and kids, provides for them, protects them, does everything he can for them. They are his duty. He puts their needs before his own. The woman is loyal and supportive. She doesn't try to contest her husband for leadership, rather supporting him and helping him achieve his goals. Together, they are a team, who's common goal is to raise their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:36 AM
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Haha seems so. But I welcome the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:23 AM
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You are the only one here even mentioning the word "alpha" bro. Sounds like projection. check your partner's phone Did anyone mention that? You just pulled this out of the sky. First shaming, now strawman argumentation too. trust them Trust is earned. Specifically by consistently showing that you respect your partner, and the relationship. No one respects their relationship if they have any friends of the opposite sex or go on nights out with their friends.../s Yes. If you act like you were sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:22 AM
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You pretty much listen the same exact things, except the ones you personally don't like you dub "insecurity". Quite the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:14 AM
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Sure, I don't own her. But we are in an exclusive relationship. And we both have a right to make certain demands from each other, or in other words - establish boundaries. I won't physically restrain her from leaving to hang out with her male friends. But I won't continue the relationship if she disrespects my boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:09 AM
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Ah, the shaming tactics. "Insecurity". If a guy was actually insecure, he wouldn't dare to actually establish boundaries in the first place. Having a spine = standing up for yourself. Which is what OP is doing. And all OP is asking is for his girl to respect the relationship. Is that too much to ask in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:03 AM
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Is that "dictating"? You have a right to establish boundaries (and you should). And boundaries =/= force. And what, according to your logic, to be "nice and kind" I should just let my girl go off and meet other men and whatnot?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:57 AM
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Quite frankly, I think majority of posters here don't speak to the other sex, let alone date. They are afflicted by a condition known as terminally-online-itis. Having said that, maybe because I'm a man myself, I tend to be more critical of fellow men on this sub. I realize this sub shows a very small amount of society, yet it's rather dismaying to read some of the posts. No accountability, double standards, hypocrisy, entitlement, desperation, selfishness, no respect for oneself or another... I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:22 PM
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If they both work, they both do house-chores. What ratio depends on how much each works. If a man's the only one working, the woman takes care of cooking and house-chores. Regardless of how much the man makes. At the same time, if they are looking towards marriage and family, the man must be ready to be the sole income bringer, as the woman will have to go on maternity leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:07 PM
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"power imbalance"? And dude... how about teaching our society to not be so overly-focused on sex again? No, there weren't brothels and prostitution all over the place, back in the day. Outside of major cities, you'd be hard pressed to find em, even in regions where it was legal. What kept society sane, relationships stable, were primarily different values and religion. Sex before marriage was a taboo for a LONG period of time. The kind of sex-obsessed society we have now is a novel concept. Sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:45 PM
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Nah dude. I'm a guy myself and I've seen multiple dudes, among my friends and coworkers, disgracing themselves this way... I cringe every time. "Nice guy" is a legit thing. And it's hard to look at. so many men try not to disagree in hopes they won't be rejected for the hundredth time that month. So many men have no fking backbone, that's why they don't disagree. You do not sell your dignity to impress some woman (not that it would impress her). No. Stick to your ideals, principles and beliefs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:30 PM
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Hmm. Hard to put it to words, but you do notice when someone is sucking up to you: offering help when you didn't ask for it and don't need it, agreeing with everything you say, being overly cautious about offending you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:38 AM
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There's a reason women dislike "nice guys". It's usually not hard to tell when someone is being genuinely nice, and when someone is... just pretending to be nice cuz he/she is expecting something. The latter is basically just guilt-trip manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:28 AM
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You can often see from just a single decent interaction if a person is rude, arrogant and self-centered. Or kind, humble and well-mannered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:22 AM
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internet is full of Aye, internet is full of stories. Irl though, most pretty girls I met were nice, chatty, playful, didn't seem to have many insecurities. The most rude and inconsiderate people I met weren't particularly physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:06 AM
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I was arguing against this: No necessarily. there is no debate. You don't get it. This girl could have just gotten done giving you the best blowjob of your life and looking at you with loving eyes and telling you genuinely she loves you. And within 20 minutes of stepping foot into let's say, one of those yaycht parties, be getting bent over right in front of you by some ugly A-level producer and loving it. Would some women act that way? Yeah probably. All of them? 100% no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:17 AM
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No necessarily. there is no debate. Yes there is, it's my personal experience. The girl in question did more than enough to prove. Far more than I deserved. And she wasn't the only one, either. You may call it anecdotal evidence, exception, whatever. But that experience is why I don't fall for the bs of either "pill". People need to touch grass, instead of theorizing online.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:00 AM
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Not necessarily. I had women be actually attracted to me, and caring about me, when I didn't have that wealth. Even when I was at a low point. And granted, power is attractive. But money doesn't guarantee power, and power can exist without much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:45 AM
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... and? Does that sort of degenerate, animalistic lifestyle look appealing to you? All that wealth just to reduce yourself to an animal, instead of doing something useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:40 AM
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As a guy who was introverted and lonely for a long period of my life... I don't really want sympathy. Never did. It was kinda my own doing, for one. For another, I don't need charity. Wouldn't accept relationship out of pity even if I was completely hopeless and bound to die alone. But tbh, I don't think any man out there is completely hopeless. I think guys either 1) don't try at all, 2) have their standards way too high, or 3) are way too desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:59 AM
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I said most, because throughout our history, there probably were a couple cases of some crazy women attempting something like that. Even if the number is absolutely negligible, it wouldn't have been factually correct to say there never were such things happening. There is far more domestic Violence against men than people are aware Even if true, my original point doesn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:51 AM
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I’m kind of curious about male lust… it always seems to happen so suddenly for y’all, sometimes during “weird” moments too. I am sure you've heard it before, but young guys (early teens - 30s or 40s) are pretty much always in the mood, unless something bad prevents it, e.g. stress, depression, mental or physical issues, etc. Fact we control ourselves doesn't mean it's not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:44 AM
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Obviously you don't hit her back with the same force. But restraining her shouldn't have some "mental blocks". Point is, a woman typically won't be able to physically outmatch a man. Which is why DV in this case is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:35 AM
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"Can". Which points to my comment above. This'd be an assault with intention to kill and no one would argue against that. But it's safe to say most cases of DV aren't this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:31 AM
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The article you linked seems to have that as a hypothetical (or a meme), but if someone really tried to run you over, that'd be assault, and an attempt to kill as well. Doesn't matter who's behind the wheel. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:25 AM
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Don't even need such experiments bro, I would not want to be a woman. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:19 AM
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I don't think that was a real thing. The first woman in the post was venting, saying "I want to...". But yeah, dudes experience DV too. Now, why is it looked at differently? Simple. Because we dudes are much stronger and less vulnerable. If that happens to us, in most cases we can simply remove ourselves from the situation, or restrain her. If a woman gets cornered by a man twice bigger than her, she has no escape. A woman's punch won't hurt me much (unless face/groin). My punch could kill her. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:12 AM
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Don't know what women say that, but I guess it depends on what you are "opening up" about and how.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:14 PM
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Yeah, if there are concerns I have, I'll voice them. That be the first step towards helping her improve. Acknowledging a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:11 PM
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Not possible. Every person is different. And I care about this specific woman, why'd I want another? Just for a prettier face? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:03 PM
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... what? My point is - if you are in relationship, you take care of your partner. If they have problems, that's also your responsibility. You can't just shake it off like your partner was some stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:50 PM
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There's such a thing as responsibility, or duty. To answer your question, no. If I commit to a woman, even if there are much more beautiful ones out there, I'll remain committed. Why? Because if I did commit to her, that means she was someone, who's company I enjoy, and who's values align with my own. And if you date people based only on looks, well... no wonder you even have to ask the question "is love even real?".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:45 PM
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Why do you even get into relationships then, at all? If everything's the responsibility of an individual partner, and you don't want to help, provide support, etc. then why are you even there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:41 PM
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Where is that "callous indifference", OP? On sites like tumblr? I am no Brad Pitt, looks or money wise, but I struggle to remember any woman in my life, who'd have treated me with "callous indifference". If anything, I remember being a fk up, who still got support, sympathy and even admiration, that I sometimes didn't return, and probably didn't deserve. Granted, the dynamics of men and women are different, because of our biology and roles in a relationship. Men are typically much stronger, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:15 AM
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Sure, that works in singular. But my example was plural, talking to a group of people with various relationship statuses. The only words that encompass that are (romantic) partner and SO. Also, consider the internet, where you are talking to strangers and no nothing of their status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:14 AM
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If you want to, blame English language. What other word to use, when you are talking to a group of men and women, and want to refer to their... partners, in general? SOs? Also, if a mere word can "devalue" your entire relationship, you've got other problems there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:51 AM
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I use "partner" only when addressing both men and women, of various relationship statuses and referring their respective... partners. Saying "bf/gf/fiance/fiancee/husband/wife" would be inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:42 AM
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On the contrary, I'd suggest you quit being so resentful, or scared, or whatever this is, and instead start making eye contact, smiling, and starting conversations. You'll notice a lot more women give a positive response than you seemingly think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:50 AM
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It just seems like lazy design, because it's safe to say most men don't particularly care about a woman's income or education level. I don't particularly agree with OP, either though. If you are looking for serious long-term relationship (which you should, "casual" is for dogs), the main attributes to look for in a woman would be: 1. Humility. Pride will ruin a relationship sooner or later. 2. Loyalty. 3. Selflessness. 4. Family-oriented mindset. That's the goal of relationship, is it not? 5. Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:02 AM
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i don't like nice people From the sounds of it, you don't like fake "nice" people, of which our society is quite full. Nice people most of the time are people who didn't have a hard life Disagree. Hard life takes away your ego and teaches you to appreciate small things in life. You'll find more kind people among those who faced real struggle in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:53 AM
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We'd first have to define what thick is. If we are talking about fit women with curves (sign of fertility), pretty much every straight man is gonna find her attractive. However, I don't think most men are attracted to fat women. So much so, that those who are... I'd consider it a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:43 AM
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It's funny how wrong you got my character dude. You know nothing about me. And for all that text, asides from poor attempts at insults, you didn't say much. How about you debate like an adult? Address my arguments and present counters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:58 PM
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Yes, before the industrial revolution, families tended to often live together. I mean, the whole extended families... which is why if anything, divorce/infidelity would've been even further discouraged. People mated for life throughout our history. Granted, promiscuity was also a thing, but it was ALWAYS looked down upon and mostly had severe consequences in almost every culture. Especially considering, that for most of our history, our societies were VERY religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:51 AM
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Incorrect. Serial monogamy is, if anything, a modern concept that would have been impossible in the olden days due to lack of proper contraception. You people seem to forget the real function of sex. Child-raising isn't 4 - 6 years. And so, the natural thing for us humans is to mate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:27 AM
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There's a difference between a man who just has good relationship with his parents, and a "mama's boy". The former is preferable, the latter is a problem. Point is, that what people refer to as "mama's boy", is an adult man, who's still clinging to his mom like a child, and doesn't have autonomy. Someone who still depends on her to take care of him. That's a big problem for any relationships he may have. A woman essentially will not only have to be his nanny, but have mother-in-law interfere in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:03 AM
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Didn't mean to. I said "you" in general, not aimed at the person I replied to specifically. Though I guess I should have made it clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:54 AM
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Pretty much any man can get laid, if he actually tries. And doesn't have his standards somewhere in stratosphere. Getting laid doesn't make you deserving of respect. You don't become a Man just by sleeping with a woman. You become one when you ditch selfishness and take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:58 AM
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men dont have the choice ... what? Of course we do. Takes two to perform the act, you know? You can say no, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:56 AM
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Idk man. As a guy, I've never been pushing myself to "perform the right set of masculine behaviors to appear desirable". I've just been myself, though of course, the "myself" kept changing and growing through the course of my life. But I can say for sure, that I've never willingly pushed myself to appear... masculine. I'm a dude. I'm that naturally. And as for crying, and vulnerability in general... Well, a man is supposed to take up his natural role in a relationship, right? Instead of breaking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:11 PM
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Excuses. Practice what you preach bro. If you don't like other ppl sleeping around, don't do it yourself. Start a change you want to see in society from yourself. she doesn't even respect herself and it indicates low intelligence I can say the same about us dudes, if we sleep around a lot. I just really dislike it when grown men are trying to shake off accountability for their own actions. "These women should not sleep around! How dare they!". Well... yet you still want to sleep around yourself.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:57 PM
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Maybe your standards are too high? You know dude, no human out there is perfect. No woman is perfect, no man is either. Physical looks aren't the quality that will make a good long-term partner. In time, the looks will deteriorate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:23 AM
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... and because you couldn't find info about it online, you assume it doesn't exist? Not trying to be funny here, but touch grass dude. Seriously. I've seen plenty of couples with a disabled man, and his wife taking care of him. Nothing but respect to those ppl, men or women. The amount of self-sacrifice needed is incredible. That is love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:18 AM
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Because it shows you don't value yourself and are weak. Because it leads to unhealthy relationships (codependency, obsession) Because it's overwhelming your SO. Because you are a man, not a drooling dog. So be that and lead. Take charge. Show strength. Just right off the top of my head. You DO need to learn to value yourself before you really get into relationships. For your sake, and for your woman's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:12 PM
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Hmm. I don't really have much of a problem with women expecting a man to lift heavy things, hold doors, etc. We are men, we are stronger, we are supposed to look after them. At the same time, I expect gratitude and politeness in return. I do not tolerate disrespectful attitude, and won't help a woman at all if she's being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:40 AM
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Not entirely sure if I understand your post. How do you define a "nice guy" here? And are you saying we should be one, or we shouldn't? I mean, I do hold the doors for women, help lift up heavy things, even if I don't really know those women (as long as they are respectful to me). That's how I was raised. Does that make me a "nice guy"? Is that bad in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:29 AM
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Neither men or women will EVER become obsolete, for we need both to survive as a species. And while today's world may be more complicated than it once was, the truth of the matter is that men dominate pretty much every TECH sphere. Women usually go for more humanitarian (or social)works, men usually go for tech. And dude... instead of trying to display some "showmanship", just be yourself. Be honest and do your own thing. Also, I somewhat dislike TRP and the like talking like there's some scienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:12 AM
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I don't owe a woman anything Yeah... and neither do they owe anything to you, either. mind my own business So, why don't you mind your own business? If you really don't want anything to do with women, then just live your life without them bro. Why the need to vent all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:02 AM
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Older people live here, and now, too you know. And people in their 30s or 40s now aren't that old. They know online dating perfectly well. Online dating existed for a LONG time now. Do you know the meaning of fallacious reasoning? You haven't even heard my argument, bud. Online dating is objectively worse, because: 1. You don't see that person... in person. 2. Your meeting is not as organic and natural. 3. The interaction is more shallow and fake - you don't know that person, so you can only jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:16 AM
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Older people have something the youth (especially today) sorely lacks - experience and wisdom. Even as someone in the "20s half", I can say - online dating =/= real dating. Online relationship =/= real relationship. Meeting someone in person is always preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:49 AM
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Well, in that case, the logical thing to do would be to marry this "alpha". Although, in my experience, women aren't as interested in chisseled abs and whatnot, as some may believe. A man, who's too much into his own looks, seems narcissistic. And that's a turn-off. As in, you should take care of yourself, but don't overdo it. Don't... fall in love with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:59 AM
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The optimal "time window" is actually more between 20 and 35-ish, although mostly women give birth fine until around 40. And how is AF/BB true? You need to define what an "alpha" is, first of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:04 AM
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I guess it's someone admirable to little teenagers. Personally, as a man, I don't see anything admirable about someone, who's unable to commit and have a meaningful and fruitful relationship. Anyone can get laid. Retaining a relationship, on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:44 PM
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What is actually "high value" about a ladysman? Inability to commit? Being irresponsible? Being driven by carnal urges, rather than having dominion over them? The purpose of sexual relationships is ultimately creating a family. Having children. That's arguably the most significant thing we can do in this life. As such, an ACTUALLY high value man is someone, who makes a good husband and father - provider, protector, responsible, dutiful, mentally and physically strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:26 PM
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That's how a demoralized society twists the concept of relationship and sex. Everything's "casual" now - no responsibility, no commitment. Just pure self-centeredness and self-indulgence. You got it right, OP - a person who wants "casual" just wants to use you for momentary pleasure. The act means nothing to them. It's up to you to decide if you want to participate in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:54 AM
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I said that as a man myself. It's not that I am trying to blame men for everything (though I do think a man should take responsibility), point is - both of the partners need to be in the mood for sex. If you can't create the proper mood for her, don't blame her for not wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:36 PM
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I think it's not so much a "libido gap", as much just a man failing to create the mood for sex. To turn her on, in other words. Dudes out there asking for it as a favour, or as some "obligation", being needy, etc. That's how you kill the mood. What you call "libido gap" is just the guy utterly not knowing how to handle the relationship and killing her attraction for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:49 PM
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discouraged to cry and express their emotions and as such developing into very distraught adults who can't show how they feel or seek comfort from anyone It's not that men are discouraged from "expressing emotions". It's that we express ourselves differently. Sometimes, maybe most times, we deal with shit on our own. It's not anyone teaching us, it's how we are. And yeah, talking about the dudes you described - they were boys, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:44 AM
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People around me have a pretty good time. And as I said, that's the goal of relationships. Inescapable. But you do you mate. Not trying to convince you or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:21 AM
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It isn't an excuse to run around after every skirt like a dog. Infidelity and divorce are still the resposibility of BOTH men and women, even if we were to say, that women lead in both statistically. By engaging every chick who expresses desire to shag, we men are enabling promiscuous behaviour in women. Proper responsible, committed relationship is the only way to go. Marriage and children are ultimately the goal of relationships. If not for that, why would we even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:13 AM
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Just as I said - not to hit girls. Even if the difference in strength isn't as pronounced before puberty (there's still a difference tho), it's a lesson a boy has to learn for later life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:09 AM
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Most men do not hurt their wives. And it's quite the contrary IMO: We men should stop acting like dogs, or like we have no self-respect, and commit to a single woman (marry). That should be the goal of dating. And if you want to stop being possessive, then stop being a man. Or rather, stop being a hunan being. Because whether you like it or not, everyone's possessive. Some just lie to themselves that "it's ok".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:07 AM
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He'd have to react differently, obviously. Women are generally smaller and weaker. As such, if she attacked you, you'd go for restraining, rather than hitting back. And sure, there are short men. But take in mind, that they are still stronger. A 13 year old boy is strong enough to overpower most adult women. That's how big the difference is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:57 AM
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