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| 8 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveBi people got their reputation by straight and gay people attributing the worst characteristics of the other onto Bi people like a scapegoat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 06:18 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveThe problem is it sounds like you view bisexuality as a matter of being moreso a sexual kink over a preference in romantic partners. The issue is that Bi individuals are treated like straight tourists by the Lesbian and Gay communities because we don't fit into the narrow stereotypes of homosexuality and viewed as gay by straights because we don't solely stick to the other gender. But anyway, the topic was women being homophobic. And the issue being that in terms of homophobia women are allowed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 06:16 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveNeat. The point is that there are individuals who are attracted to both sexes. Men who are attracted to both sexes are treated like a disease or lepers in ways Bi women are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 06:05 PM |
| 9 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveThey're comfortable with the abstract idea of being gay but not when its actually practiced in their vicinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:38 PM |
| 35 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveNot subconscious imo. Its very much conscious but hidden behind a greater layer of social self monitoring. A lot of women are extremely homophobic but its often seen less as a massively negative opinion to hold and more of a "tee-hee silly lady doesn't mean to hurt anyone. She's just a girl!" Like a homophobic guy will be extremely blunt with his hatred and disgust. A homophobic woman will be a bit more subtle about it or show their discomfort by proxy if they are in public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:35 PM |
| 20 | Any shows/movies where toxic femininity is critiqued?I believe toxic femininity utilizes their gender norms to avoid accountability or to garner benefits from traditional gender structures while not wanting to throw in to those systems. Toxic femininity tends to be extremely bioessentalist often putting women on a near divine pedestal where they are simultaneously extremely powerful individuals who can do anything they set their minds to and totally powerless individuals who are in a state of perpetual victumhood that strips themselves of any agen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/26 01:14 PM |
| 2 | Tough 'love' and early male socialization.Which doesn't address the core cultural practice. So far the automation we do have has been used to leave many to rot or forced to work even harder while the spoils are consolidated. Because lets say we do get to that point. People will argue, to justify keeping current power dynamics and monetary gains, that men are simply obsolete in that system. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/26 01:37 PM |
| 5 | Tough 'love' and early male socialization.Part of it has to do with the fears around raising boys as parents in societies that still deeply subscribe to traditional norms (Not these are general observations. None of these apply 100% everywhere. Mileage may vary. Batteries sold separately.) Men are strong. Therefore if we aren't whipped into submission at a young age fast we might become a dangerous animal. Boys are seen as stronger, more aggressive, and impulsive and rather than taking the time and energy to help correct or help channel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/26 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?Men broadly speaking are explicitly conditioned not to have empathy for other men through an emphasis on competition and weaponized homophobia at a young age by their elders and peers. Its not uncommon for men who show large amounts of empathy in general to be targeted as a weaker or gay individual which allows other men who were fully conditioned to use them to elevate their own social standing through the attacking and dismissal of nonconforming men. I also want to cautiously point out the iss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:19 PM |
| – | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?Therein lies an issue with the democratic party specifically. And this started with Hillary imo. A lot of people on left wanted to see a woman president, the only issue is we at the time cared more about what the politican was over who they were. We threw ourselves behind Hillary who was a poster child for neoliberal corporatist America. 8/10 corporate slang, 9/10 political controversies, and 3/10 actual intent to follow through with anything. The whole language around that time shifted. It went… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:25 PM |
| -4 | Thoughts on this? Men aren’t needed anymore, and they’re struggling to adapt to being wanted by Olivia BarbulescuI doubt he did. I wasn't a huge fan of what she wrote but what they said is grossly misrepresenting the topics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/26 01:31 PM |
| 18 | Thoughts on this? Men aren’t needed anymore, and they’re struggling to adapt to being wanted by Olivia BarbulescuAnother element I noticed in her initial article is essentially the idea that in order for women to help us men feel needed we needed to be used for trivial things like garbage or smaller tasks. Which by itself isn't a bad thing but points to a much larger disconnect between her and a lot of the issues men have with being not needed. Men feel unneeded both emotionally, socially, and physically. Now her idea of little tasks still has our value both for ourselves and others assigned to the utility… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/26 01:23 PM |
| 1 | What exactly does it look like when men are punished for being vulnerable?It can take a variety of forms depending on the situation. It can look like victim blaming when we are the targets of sexual violence. If a man forces himself on you its used to "make us see how bad women have it.", ignored, or made fun of. If it was a woman you're labeled gay if you don't like it and immediately grt a big target on your back to be socially and physically attacked. It can look like social isolation and support system abandonment when we allow our mask of stoicism to fall for eve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/26 06:22 PM |
| 2 | There's an aspect of the "men do all the wars" thing that I really wanna break downI find the general claim a lazy attempt to virtue signal by overlooking the inconvenient complexities of war. They conflate "men do all the wars" with "men start all the wars". Which historically men have dominated positions of political and governmental power. So on its face it appears true. But this runs into the issue that a majority of men in those societies had very little, if no say in fighting. Conscription was a major tool which essentially saw men who refused or fled their duty to fight… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/26 06:11 PM |
| 5 | I want to be a feminist, but it feels AlienatingThat often implies feminism is by default the only acceptable form of progressive spaces. Feminism does not have a monopoly on gender liberation nor is the end-all-be-all. Its a section of progressivism/leftism rather than its prerequisite. Much of mainstream feminism still heavily perpetuates racist, classist, and patriarchal systems/beliefs with either new framing or just ignoring the inconsistencies so long as it is convienent or its what the general mob has clamped into. Not that feminism as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/26 06:13 PM |
| 1 | "Because gender roles are becoming obsolete, men feel like they don't have a purpose" How true is this statement really?Also the issues with MGTOW is multifaceted. Like you said it is plagued by bad faith actors and is often immediately hijacked by the podcast bro-type manosphere. Which immediately demolishes any public credibility. Any men going their own way open up other men to fill in their absence in the romantic economy. Which just encourages men to support it with the goal of capitalizing while everyone else is abstaining. It becomes seen as a tool to increase individual men's access and availability to wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/26 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Why Are Male Gender Roles More Resistant to Change?My personal opinion is because much of our society requires men to remain in a utilitarian form where our labor can be extracted and our services given without protest. It also serves as a major cultural may pole in which to base our perceptions and understood reality around how certian genders behave. Men are expected to be workers, fighters, or providers. Without those three core functions, everything kind of falls apart. No one expects a woman to provide for a man financially, die for a man, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/26 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Women are OK with men decentering them. There is much more pushback from menThe issue is MGTOW won't work in a society that depends on men centering women to some degree in terms of service. The moment we withhold our utility our "decentering" of women is viciously attacked and framed as either misogynistic or gay. God forbid you as a man deny sex to a woman or refuse to act with chivalry. You'll see a hardcore regression into patriarchal thinking faster than a speeding bullet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Decentering Women Isn’t Anti-Woman. It’s Actually Feminist and Healthier for Men TooI have to agree here. Often this encourages gendered segregation within society and discourages shared spaces between the two to socialize. The largest issue here is modern society and systems have largely clamped down on natural socialization irl due to profit-first thinking and much of the public only having online spaces to rely on. Keeping boys and girls apart in some instances isn't a bad thing, but a more general separation makes the other side more like a seperate species almost. Add to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/26 07:52 PM |
| 2 | I noticed that there seems to be correlation between TERFS and cakism feminists, when it comes to male gender roles.I think it makes more sense if we consider feminism no longer as a single entity but rather a new political stance that has it's own spectrum between progressive and conservative. I think the largest issue around the language of feminism is it treats itself like a unified monolith when in reality its essentially fractured into distinct, often conflicting stances. Egalitarian feminists, patriarchal feminists, TERF feminists, liberal feminists, conservative feminists, radical feminists all have th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/26 09:34 PM |
| 12 | Boys falling behind in schoolsI think a major element for this dip in boy's falling behind is the industries and jobs boys traditionally were prepped to do (namely industrial manufacturing jobs or data entry) have largely been eradicated from a lot of men. Careers in automotive repair, factory work, or other jobs similar that boy's were encouraged to do have largely been wiped off the map due to decades of outsourcing and now AI coming for the white collar industries. A lot of boys simply don't see a lot of viable futures fo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/26 08:55 PM |
| -1 | Zohran Mamdani's take on the male loneliness crisis is probably the most fair take by any Western politician so far, acknowledging systemic issues and economic pressure as the driving force. This is surprising for the Leftist misandry he's surrounded by, and hopeful.Hey its at least something. If y'all wanna wait for the perfect politican we're gonna be waiting for decades. Progress is still progress. Maybe we should be encouraging this behavior instead of bitching cause he isn't throwing himself at our feet. Its still a step in the right direction and I don't see the benefit in shitting on behavior we've been asking for. Unless we're just here to complain about things and not make any progress I see this is a sign of people wanting to actually deal with th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/25 03:40 PM |
| 8 | There is a gender double standard when it comes to cognitive dissonance. Where people are more likely to believe in men being more hypocritical.The problem is acknowledging collective shared issues. White women will proclaim they are for progress but in terms of voting and action often are insincere or looking for brownie points. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/25 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ?Cool it Jordan Peterson. We aren't lobsters here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 11:41 PM |
| 6 | Normalized Female AbuseI think the larger issue here compared to men and women is the levels of protection each group gets from criticism. A lot of men will be blamed as a collective for the actions of a very harmful few. Even if we individually are upstanding, we tend to get tainted with essentially a new form of original sin based on our sex. Meanwhile women as a group are able to escape criticism over individual actions and struggle policing their own. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/25 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Feminists get the ick from hearing about men issues. Because women benefit from men issues, via female privilege.Mmmm I think its moreso a way to opt out of an uncomfortable conversation. They want men to come to them and engage with their ideology but don't want us in their community, spaces, or discourse. The message can often be taken as "We just want to use you for our benefit." And now I doubt that's the actual goal. I know quite a few feminists who genuinely practice egalitarian gender equality and they aren't included in this criticism. But in practice mainstream feminism often offers men no incenti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 10:02 PM |
| 1 | The potential identity crisis? I wanted to share some real life insights.Eeeeh not so sure about that. Some certainly, but a good chunk are just there to get laid | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/25 02:29 AM |
| 1 | The potential identity crisis? I wanted to share some real life insights.I mean right, but then we get into the topic of sexuality and what constitutes sexual or romantic desires. That is a rather subjective line for many. Certainly, many fall around the same area, but it's hardly universal | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/25 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Is The Left For Men Anymore?I think the issue here is most of the global left is pretty much center or even center right with some paltry social progressive camouflage. A lot of men in NYC loved Mamdani, who ran as a socialist. Men just want someone who is genuine and doesn't feel like they just want their vote before kicking them to the curb. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/25 05:19 PM |
| 10 | The potential identity crisis? I wanted to share some real life insights.Simply put? These are their "performative male feminists" they complain about, but they don't notice cause they can be used as hype men. Most of the guys like this just wanna get laid and don't care about who they have to throw under the bus. Helps if you don't really believe in what you say and are doing it solely for social brownie points. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/25 05:16 PM |
| -6 | The potential identity crisis? I wanted to share some real life insights.The issue there is I think they are applying relationships shaped by patriarchal standards for platonic same-sex friendships between women onto men and wondering why we don't bite. It's not that we don't want intimacy or friendships like that, but our society, in terms of male socialization, severely punishes that. Some of the platonic stuff a woman does with her friends could get a man killed in a few countries for being "gay," and even in the more enlightened countries, it's still quietly frow… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/25 05:13 PM |
| 3 | The problem when feminists say men should make their own movement or just be themselves and not worry about societyThe problem with a lot of mainstream feminism is it is egalitarian up to a point but still heavily built around patriarchal structures, racial hierarchies, homophobia, and heavy classism. The issue I find is that most feminism is geared towards white passing cis women with the rest getting lip service "trickle-down equality." But the harsher reality is quite a few feminists are perfectly fine keeping the patriarchy around as long as certain (white, cis, wealthy) women get to run it. Oh they'll p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/25 05:03 PM |
| 5 | “It was mostly men who volunteered!” (With a voice of distain)Yesssss been screaming this from the rooftops. A lot of women just want the social credit but also to practice whatever unfair social dynamic gives them control or power over others. It's crazy how many feminists cozy up to white nationalists or are EXTREMELY homophobic. The difference is unlike their male counterparts, they work through proxy and plausible social deniability and innuendo. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/25 06:58 PM |
| 14 | “Men only view women as objects” is false and missing the point.I agree. I think if physical traits were the sole reason we can all agree its shallow. But pretending it isn't a factor is disingenuous. Something plenty of women have no issue engaging in. Body shaming is socially acceptable for women* as long as they are in a social or economic status greater than or equal to the guys. Height, weight, muscles, build, and more is definitely more aggressively judged in a lot of instances. Not saying every single woman does this, I don't think its a majorly wides… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/25 06:56 PM |
| 28 | “Men only view women as objects” is false and missing the point.That's a major double standard they tend to be really afraid of acknowledging because there's no clean answer their stance can give them. Not because there isn't one, but often times the stance of mainstream feminism in comparison to the more niche egalitarianism feminism often is built on preserving patriarchy for men in terms of service and norms. Men can't be allowed to pursue women because its seen as predatory by some (NOT in a literal hunting way. Most men would agree that behavior deserve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/25 06:52 PM |
| 4 | Feminists get the ick from hearing about men issues. Because women benefit from men issues, via female privilege.Most people in a movement rarely know anything about the theory of their movement or the deeper efforts needed to be effective with it. They tend to jump on because it's the socially "in" thing to do. I know quite a few women who are extremely patriarchal and conservative but call themselves feminist because that's the "popular" or morally default stance to take for women. Anything outside of that is seen as undesirable. It becomes quickly a contest of who can be the purest member of the movemen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/10/25 04:30 AM |
| 2 | Feminists get the ick from hearing about men issues. Because women benefit from men issues, via female privilege.It's bandwagoning. A major theme I notice in a lot of feminist spaces is how.....absolutely hostile to any criticism it is. I mean its reddit, the king of having totally reasonable and open people /s The issue I find is most feminist groups genuinely have no fucking clue what they want men to be. They all assume every other feminist group thinks like them when in reality men face dozens of variants of feminism that wildly conflict and always find a way to make us the bad guy. Treat a woman like … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/10/25 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?Oh I definitely agree on the mutual dismissiveness. None of this is solely on women. But in terms of who gets to have double standards and who doesn't, women definitely have some advantages in our current social order that makes standing up to those inconsistent standards a sisyphean task. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?Issue there is Women societally speaking can never be considered creepy if the behavior is aimed exclusively at men. There are some exceptions granted, mostly for the worst of the worst offenders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?I do think a lot of people, women especially, underestimate pretty privilege for men. If you are attractive you can get away with a lot. If you're both attractive and rich, you can literally be the biggest predator on earth, and people will still dick-ride you. The issue, I think, comes from there being two unspoken rule systems for men interacting with women in a casual setting. One rule set for attractive or conventionally masculine men and another for non-masculine/non attractive men. The for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 02:13 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?Yeah, the number of options they have definitely has an impact. There's always room for improvement in their choice of partner because they have so many men to choose from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 02:51 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?The issue I find with the topic of consent is some women genuinely mean "Yes" when they say no but expect the man to ignore it because its part of the romantic fantasy for her. And how it doesn't take into consideration how toxic a practice that is or how much of a life altering gamble for a man that is. Its like playing Russian roulette with 3 bullets in the wheel. Like I don't wanna risk my life and future for someone else's romantic game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 02:22 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?Have you considered you may be in a privileged position to be surrounded by people who won't attack you for that stance? Or that your own masculinity might be in a position where no one really will question it because it already aligns with the norm? I'm also from the U.S. the whole country varies WILDLY on topics like that, especially around the bible belt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 02:18 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?I think the major focus here is how, in terms of male privilege, because women are on the outside looking in, they tend to focus on the privileges the most powerful and influential men have and attribute it to every man having the same level of privleges. For example, we do have some degree of privileges in terms of some social leniency on child rearing and home making. But those privileges are also heavily dependent on a ton of factors. For instance, men who perform and appear to uphold the mas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 02:16 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?It heavily depends on your culture, the situation, and who knows about it. An example is how other men and women will dog you hard for dismissing sex with a woman. The general issue is that the natural assumption for men is that we always want sex and therefore, our natural "straight" position is always accepted when offered. The denial signals to others the man is defective to some degree. This opens him up to ruthless ridicule, targeting, and lack of attraction to other women. This can be seen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 02:09 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?No, what i meant was if you deny a woman sex you are automatically labeled "gay" which can have serious negative consequences for the man. This can range from social bullying, targeting by homophobic individuals even if the individual isn't gay, and loss of social standing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 12:34 PM |
| – | Men, what is something unique you expericne as a result of your gender often that you wished women understood?Or how consent from men can often be coerced by social pressures just like women face. It gets hard when the threat of homophobia and all the social consequences it has threatens your character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 04:56 AM |
| 3 | Male lonliness is self inflictedIt's mostly through mutual interests. Most male friends often come together around a shared interest and repeated contact over in-depth knowledge on the other. It's mostly around vibes and what requires minimum stress in a lot of instances. A lot of it mostly has to do with how much stress the male friend can help relieve without imposing stress on them. Although this can vary wildly. Some people are simply friends because they share the one hobby or interest, and the shared space and focus arou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 04:29 AM |
| – | Female double standards regarding insecurityThe issue is if you step out of the game, you step out of society as a whole. Men who don't conform to the masculine standards of utility are considered parasites. Parasites often meet humiliating and painful ends, often through social neglect and harassment. This can be seen in bullying, isolation, and targeting by other conforming men and women. The rigged game has mechanisms to keep all the pieces on the board or break them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 04:15 AM |
| – | Female double standards regarding insecurityIts not just online. I see it very often in daily life at all ages. People can be fucking ruthless. What uou don't understand is hiw that online talk can take form in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:54 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do you think most men are just not good enough/worthy of dating/marriage in the modern world?How can they when it seems you have everything? How could any man not feel like a burden compared to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:50 AM |
| – | Female double standards regarding insecurityThr difference is how those insecurities will help readily and routinely used to attack the individual. Body shaming is socially acceptable ot even encouraged in today's age so long as its only pointed at men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:48 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Do you think most men are just not good enough/worthy of dating/marriage in the modern world?Its heavily implied. I mean come on, doctor, swimsuit model, 900k in savings. That's a tall order for most men and women alike. You set your standards without saying it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:46 AM |
| 8 | Q4W: Do you think most men are just not good enough/worthy of dating/marriage in the modern world?And congratulations, you'll never find anyone who can meet those standards short of actual royalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:36 AM |
| – | Female double standards regarding insecurityThe issue is that a lot of mainstream therapy focuses on expression over action. Therapy tends to be very women centered in its practices and struggles helping men who tend to be extremely heavily socialized to tangibly solve the problem, causing them discomfort or pain. An example from personal experience is i kept getting asked how I felt, I knew how I felt and I knew why. The problem was finding an actionable solution to fix it. How do you solve something like shortness, physical assault for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 12:26 AM |
| 5 | Male lonliness is self inflictedI think the conversation takes a turn when we consider a hidden privlege of this: Friendship and the gender bias of socialization that gives others greater advantages. Friendship or even basic attention from others tends to operate differently depending on whether you're a man or a woman. For women, there's a greater social push and encouragement for cooperation, protection, and expression that I feel gives a lot of them a great advantage in making and maintaining Friendships and romantic relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 12:05 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Do you think most men are just not good enough/worthy of dating/marriage in the modern world?A major difference is the access to candidates. Women tend to have a lot more power over who they choose, while men have to prove worthy of attention. So the desperation tends to compound by repeated, often harsh, rejection. A woman could realistically have a relationship with almost any man whenever she wants. The quality and actual chemistry would vary wildly and might not be to her standards, but they tend to have greater access to those options. Men tend to be more desperate because the risk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 11:58 PM |
| 13 | Q4W: Do you think most men are just not good enough/worthy of dating/marriage in the modern world?May I ask a question, if you were to try dating someone with your same standards, would they even pick you? A common issue I can see from some women is that they will create standards that are so high for others that they personally would never be able to achieve. An example I see is "I just want someone who will listen to me and my issues!" But has no patience for anyone they have to show effort for or are inconvenienced by for their vulnerability. Or how "They need to get along with my friends… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsObviously, none of the blame can be squarely thrown on feminists. That wouldn't be accurate or fair. But compared to the red pill scammers and the movement that is attempting to establish a moral monopoly on our society, neither really has a workable vision for men. Sure, the Red pill is heavily more male focused, but it's just regression and reactivity. It doesn't allow men to adapt to the modern day and discuss changing standards. But its biggest strength is where I think feminism could learn:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsTrue. Thought I do believe that in strict terms of feminism it did drop the ball in a sense. The movement has never really enjoyed cultural dominance before and wasn't used to having to set the standards before. A common complaint I see is how feminism isn't responsible for helping men. This is a major contradiction because its explicit goal was to get a position where it could enact sweeping change. And yet the moment it came, there was a big glowing "now what?" Moment. It managed to help some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 06:40 PM |
| 5 | Outdated view of masculinity clashing with modern culture is why "pill" culture existsI think the hard issues regarding women's liberation and feminist advocacy (for the record I do support), is that it failed hard in getting women to confront the patriarchal standards and norms that give them an unfair advantage over others. A great example was your mention of "dating up," a concept left over from more patriarchal times where women were heavily encouraged to marry men who could elevate their families to a better social or financial position. Men, on the other hand, are mostly lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.You are not quite understanding. Its not that im not trying. It's that my nation is SIGNIFICANTLY harder to influence on multiple levels compared to yours. Not to mention we are in the middle of a legal coup, a third of our nation seems to want to reverse all the progress we made, violently I might add, and our systems are decentralized to the public but centralized for private/rich interests. What y'all did is commendable, and I'm really glad for you guys. But have you considered that maybe Aus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.Not saying its impossible, but our social and political situation is just really unworkable and isn't showing signs of improving any time soon. We also have 340 million people to your 26 million | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.Which has its own issues with both corporate feminist and red pill lobbyists getting involved. Plus our corporate captured social media which is just really, really bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.Eeeeeeh kinda but not really. We put on a great show but significant chunks of our population are still back in the 1800s socially and politically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.The struggle too, for Americans is how deeply decentralized our systems are. You guys only have a single country to worry about in terms of male support. We have over 50 mini nations half of which are run by cults who believe in 1600s gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.Great for you. But im mostly talking about U.S. political struggles around gender. Australia is its own unique situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as creepy as men they just get away with it.The problem here is any movement started by men will inevitably be shut down and socially crushed in terms of aiming for equality. The pressure is twofold. You have the redpill manosphere types with stupid amounts of cash who can just hijack it for their own ends and force the original men out through intimidation and harassment. On the other side a feminist movement that often aims for social monopoly on progress that often has, at best, mixed reactions to men wanting to step outside patriarcha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 01:36 PM |
| 1 | The hypocrisy of conversations around gender roles and why the red pill wins among menThe redpill movement was always a hyper conservative grift that was never meant to last. Its just an opportunistic vulture capitalizing on men's insecurities in an era where their purpose and usefulness is uncertain. Its a temporary band aid to squeeze some more cash before the whole system falls apart. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/25 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Why more men than women die by suicide — BBCMale suicide is a problematic topic people don't like talking about because it pokes a major hole in the societal standard of men being expected to be emotional islands. By that, I mean many men are conditioned from birth to never, ever bother others with their emotions. Now, there are plenty of guys who make their emotions entirely dependant on others, namely their significant other, but that's another matter entirely. The problem is people, other guys included, have absolutely no idea how to h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/25 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?I've said it before: "Our society, even among the most progressive feminist, cannot tolerate a non masculine male because the perception of a non-masculine acting male and a parasite is indistinguishable." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/25 04:39 PM |
| 0 | Feminist therapist takes apart feminism and explores men's issuesId disagree. It's not necessarily boosted by feminism. It's boosted by capitalism. If MRA and Feninists are permanently kept at odds and you profit from both sides bashing the other, why would you ever want the conflict to stop? Capitalism has already defanged a lot of western feminism and the red pill movement is literally capitalism, taking advantage of men's insecurities and struggles to squeeze what money they can from them. It all comes down to ratings, products, and donors. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/11/24 06:09 AM |
| 4 | Feminist therapist takes apart feminism and explores men's issuesAnd to be fair, I think sometimes we risk downplaying our own role in enforcing the current disadvantage we face as men. We certainly have some more abilities and advantages on paper, and we need to be conscious of that. But I think the issue we can fix is that there's a major miscommunication going on. When the talk about male privilege comes up, it's almost always focused on the pinnacle examples of power (Politicans, the rich, celebrities) and how they act compared to the average guy. And we … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 06:33 PM |
| 6 | Feminist therapist takes apart feminism and explores men's issuesThe issue, assuming we're talking about American leftism, is that American leftism is an incredibly big tent. We have a very homogenous and defined conservative conservative party with massive power and then the rest of everyone has one party to listen to all the conflicting needs and desires they want. Feminism is technically always going to be leftist because there really is no middle in our political culture. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 06:27 PM |
| 10 | Feminist therapist takes apart feminism and explores men's issuesThe issue is we basically have two kinds of male advocates. You have the angry, burned, or scorned men who seek to use male advocacy to lash out at an entire demographic of people for percived or real slights, often doubling down on gender roles. And then you have the mape advocates who want to progress the disassembly of gender roles and bring to attention specific issues men face that women are less likely to face or are entirely unique to us, while remaining respectful of outside opinions. Un… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Trump won the 2024 election. Your thoughts?As for how that will affect you. Pretty much everything will skyrocket in price when the tarrifs happen to the point where we risk economic collapse and a possible hyperinflation of the dollar. Reducing its purchasing power. You're also more likely to see police cities built which often employ more aggressive and brutal measures with little repercussions. So the police could more easily abuse the average person like you. You then have the targeting of news and media, making accurate information … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 02:28 AM |
| 8 | Trump won the 2024 election. Your thoughts?His policies are likely to upend our country as we know it entirely. His administration has explicitly said Project 2025 is the agenda. Which includes mass deportations of both illegal and legal migrants which would have a massive negative impact on our economy, namely our food prices. We then have the tarrifs with a 20% tarrif on all nations and 60% on China. Which will be disastrous for average Americans as we import an absolute ton and will see our own exports met with tarrifs. Then there's t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 02:17 AM |
| 1 | So Men Are the Real Victims?A major factor I think also gets overlooked is oftentimes a lot of men had next to no real say in their society beyond what service you provided. Some men had limited power depending on whether they were a father or not, but if you weren't, you were still under the control of your father. Just with different social expectations and limitations. A big part of the rhetoric I sometimes hear from some feminists is why they didn't just stand up to an unjust system and resist. And there is a simple an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/24 07:18 PM |
| 1 | I feel like feminism is fighting men in a way that men are weak to.The major issue is that a lot of women are still unable to accept a feminine man. There's a noticeable gatekeeping of femininity from others, especially men and trans men, as there is still the undercurrent of patriarchal expectations for men that many women have not recognized they have. The push for feminism has resulted in greater freedoms for women but also resulted in those same women doubling down on locking men in their shrinking roles while increasing the responsibilities and expectation… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/24 09:27 PM |
| 49 | An admission that feminism is not for everyoneThey support feminism as an identity and have absolutely no care for its ideologies. Unfortunately, much like in a lot of different movements, most people dont actually care about what a movement is about beyond the community and identity it gives them. In her case, it's clearly given her a sense that she's on "Team Woman" and "Team Man" is an enemy that shouldn't be considered. Completely ignoring the nuance of the issues men and women face, she's instead focusing on virtue signaling and tribal… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/24 09:08 PM |
| 11 | "Human trafficking isn’t just about children and women… men are trafficked too. It’s not about your gender, it’s about slavery and control."It's because societally speaking, men don't get to have consent with sex. They are expected and assumed to want it in all situations with no exceptions. We are taught as men to respect a womans consent because it's in respect to their individual person but when a man refuses sex, especially from a woman, it could elicit a beating at worst or public humiliation at best. Let's take man on man SA, for instance. Let's put aside stats for a moment to discuss the general reaction to male victims of ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/24 07:17 PM |
| 22 | "Human trafficking isn’t just about children and women… men are trafficked too. It’s not about your gender, it’s about slavery and control."I think the primary issue is that service and positions of subjugation are almost seen as normal or "natural" for men by others. No one really cares about African or Arab child soldiers pressed into service or else face extremely punishment. Records show a some child soldiers who refuse to fight were used to clear minefields by marching in front of the older soldiers. And it's because their sex as a "man" is applied before they are seen as a human. In many ways, men have been treated as disposab… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/24 02:53 PM |
| 1 | People always use pride as a scapegoat for why men struggle. This is so disingenuous.In other words. The perception of moral perfection matters more to the "talkers" within the feminist movement over the actual act of progress. To the point where the people with boots on the ground who engage with nuance are either berated or chased from the movement for daring to question the horde of moral capital. Not to mention that as it stands, Feminism as a body seems really fractured on exactly what they want when it comes to gender roles. Some are in favor of patriarchy lite, some want … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/10/24 04:17 PM |
| 1 | “Toxic masculinity” is real, but the term used for what it refers to is harmfulPart of it is that Feminism (Specifically Western Feminism) is almost entirely white focused and has roots in white superiority. If we look back at the history, the rights and liberties first and second wave feminism secured really only applied to white, middle to upper class women at the times. Eventually, some of those qualities trickled down to more marginalized groups of women, but that was more of an accident than an intended goal of those two periods of feminist history. So it fails many w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/10/24 03:57 PM |
| 7 | Rape Culture Affects Men & Boys More Than Anyone Else"Who set that system up?! Owned." Is probably the common response to a topic they don't have a black and white opinion on like this. The problem I feel with feminism as a body is how selective it is with its liberation in practice. I'll hear all sorts of hot shit about "Oh but feminism also protects boys and men from toxicity!" And then have them turn heel when we are victims of sexual assault. A lot of them genuinely have a hard time understanding that men often have no concept of consent for t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 09:55 PM |
| 1 | What are some ways that women suffer that you can acknowledge or understand?I often think people confuse cultural norms (beneficial and toxic combined) and patriarchy as the same. Looking at your first example, I think that's a great way to distinguish a situation that disadvantages women, namely Asian women in this case, as a result of a cultural norm that has been preserved by generations from all parties. Yeah SA is a really horrific crime. And the fact it's often so hard to prove in general is really hard for victims who won't get any kind of help. Even when they do… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 02:31 AM |
| 3 | My very recent experience with Feminism as a "former male" (MtF, Trans)I think the difference is that there's a level of plausible deniability not only to others about their TERF like behavior, but to themselves as well. They don't see what they say or do as harmful because it's often done in a way where there's multiple plausible explanations to cover for the root reason of misandry (or misogyny depending in the situation). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 02:15 AM |
| 16 | The Empathy Gap and Ignorance of Male Suffering (1)The issue is that many see men dying as natural or expected due to millenia of gender roles and who normally served in military roles. The way it's worked for a long time is as followed: A little girl dying is an unfathomable tragedy. A little boy dying is a shame A young woman dying is a travesty. And men above 15 dying is just a statistic. What frustrates me about this is people act like we're trying to take attention away from the women and children who died when we just want the other people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 02:02 AM |
| 8 | The Empathy Gap and Ignorance of Male Suffering (1)Not to mention the IDF's loose definition of "Combatants" cause to them anyone who even slightly looks at them funny is a Combatant. Even apparently the U.N. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 01:58 AM |
| 12 | Why you guys are painting all feminists and women who hate men as same group of people?I think this is the big one. Mainstream feminism has a very bad time policing itself and often uses No True Scotsman fallacies to wave off criticism earned from the extreme ideologies within the movement as well as any double standards that some feminists have. And i think it stems from the idea that most feminists often know little about the nuances of feminism and the issues of strict gender roles. Often times, they'll only understand the surface level "girl boss" feminist language mixed with … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/24 04:49 AM |
| 12 | When it comes to gender to fiction. Male characters who don't conform to the "horny lizard brain" stereotype of men, are more likely to get their sexuality questioned?I think it's because the topic of bisexuality, especially male bisexuality, is massively avoided in those spaces due to its controversial nature. Some people in the LGBTQ community view them as basically straight while those who are straight view them as gay. And in either case it's a sense of "you're just doing this to hide xyz" or there's assumed to be an ulterior motive rather than that just being their sexual identity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/10/24 09:07 PM |
| 2 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.I think that a major issue in the perception of patrarchy very much depends on cultural perspective. For instance, we white men tend to have a much less extreme social difference from the women in our lives. Therefore the criticisms of patriarchy tend to feel like undeserved or even made up attacks, as many of the complaints come typically from white women. And as I've stated in other threads, Liberal Feminism (which is arguably the more mainstream feminist movement) is often patriarchal in the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/24 05:51 AM |
| 3 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.Hey, I don't appreciate you talking about yourself like that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 07:37 PM |
| 2 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.You just called me not a real leftist. Let that hypocrisy sink in | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 07:37 PM |
| 2 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.👍 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 07:36 PM |
| -1 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.👍 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 07:33 PM |
| 2 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.Part of the problem is that the mainstream feminist school of thought is Liberal Feminism (Also called white feminism, or what I call Patriarchal Feminism) The mainstream feminist movement beyond its rhetoric does very little to actually better the lives of everyone involved. Traditionally speaking, the mainstream feminist movement hyperfixates on the experiences and plights of the middle to upper class white woman. And often has very little issue allowing patrarchy to go unopposed so long as so… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 07:27 PM |
| -3 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.What i mean by toxic is rather than looking to discuss specific areas in which men do face issues under the current system of patriarchy (Which benefits men who already hold positions of authority or power) some come to engage in pseudo red pill opinions without the stigma of actually identifying with those groups. For instance, I pointed out how Intersectional Feminism is not perfect either. But compared to some of the more extreme or disingenuous movements of feminism, there is a greater focus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 07:18 PM |
| 0 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.The down votes are probably from the more toxic side of the space. I've seen a reply or two completely dismissing the idea of feminism ecziste existence of patrarchy. Unfortunately there are an annoying amount of people on this sub reddit see this place as just a place to bash women entirely rather than talking about some of the specific issues men face and some women also play into. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 05:19 PM |
| 3 | I believe Intersectional Feminism is a more productive and healthy form of the feminist movement compared to Liberal Feminism. And I argue we should support it further.Those who genuinely understand intersectionality, yes. The problem is that intersectionality as a word is being thrown around a little too much | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Boys aren't going to the manosphere or red pill content because they necessarily like what's being said. They feel it's the only place they are authorized to be. And current feminist discourse isn't helping.Yes and No. I certainly think in some areas of society women do have a larger advantage over men. However, to say it's all women would be inaccurate. Imo a lot of that advantage tends to be taken up by white women who historically are able to leverage white supremacy over men and women of color. I would definitely agree in places like the fields of academia and HEAL industries, women have a massive bias in their favor while having support to STEM industries. I would agree it is unfair to say onl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/24 08:25 PM |
| 4 | I recently came across this on social media, and got attacked for stating that it's actually black men, not women who are most disadvantaged in US society. How do we, as LWMA's, respond to such misinformed people?Liberal Feminism (also called white feminism) has deep roots in white supremacy and the exclusion of women of color. There was also the somewhat recent question following the Man vs. Bear argument asked a black woman if they'd rather be in a conference room alone with a white man or white woman, and they chose the white man. Because if that man had any hostile racist intent, we tend to be much more explicit about it, whereas with the white women, it comes in a more subtle and unpredictable way t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/24 06:32 PM |
| 2 | To talk again about male indifference. Men are often heavily criticized for being too opinionated about women. But society is also frustrated when men are noncharlant about women. And let's talk about male interaction again too.And therein lies the paradox. The attraction to and preference for those most likely to live up to your (not as in you) expectations. The seeking of toxic men based on their ability to fit into the categories of traditional masculinity regardless of other qualifications. Now, obviously, the short, skinny, feminine, or bi are not owed romantic relationships automatically. I genuinely believe no one is entitled to that as it should be earned. But there is a glaring silence around the topic of non … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/24 05:07 PM |
| 2 | To talk again about male indifference. Men are often heavily criticized for being too opinionated about women. But society is also frustrated when men are noncharlant about women. And let's talk about male interaction again too.Which plays into the issue of bio-essentialism. Which is the same rhetoric the far right manosphere employs just pointed at a different group. Yes, typically speaking, men, on average, have more muscular strength than women. But having more strength does not corelate to increased violence. It's been proven time and time again that socialization and poverty tend to be the biggest driving factors of violence or violent crime. By the same logic, a white woman from the us would be stronger than a Rw… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/24 04:46 PM |
| 3 | To talk again about male indifference. Men are often heavily criticized for being too opinionated about women. But society is also frustrated when men are noncharlant about women. And let's talk about male interaction again too.The fundamental issue too, since we've talked on this a bit, is how the current discourse on benevolent sexism from modern feminist groups doesn't address a major issue that women have long pointed out as an issue they've faced. Objectification. To me I think a major issue in getting both feminism and left wing male advocates on the same page is how men are automatically objectified not only by others but are taught to objectify themselves. Now how does this relate to the topic of indifference a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/24 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Boys aren't going to the manosphere or red pill content because they necessarily like what's being said. They feel it's the only place they are authorized to be. And current feminist discourse isn't helping.The issue here is now we approach overgeneralization to the point of losing nuance. Women as a whole are not a monolith much like how we aren't one. They are capable of self reflection, not all of them are willing to do that obviously. But the main issue with taking it too far is now we're veering off of a calm discussion and approaching a vent/rage session that's not really going to help change anything. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/24 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Boys aren't going to the manosphere or red pill content because they necessarily like what's being said. They feel it's the only place they are authorized to be. And current feminist discourse isn't helping.I'm definitely one of those guys who doesn't care about the identity. But I'm often forced to compare myself to it because other will do so relentlessly. Especially some of the allies around me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/24 07:44 PM |
| 2 | A lot of people are really trying so hard to demonize single men. But they are struggling though.To me it's the romanticized idea of being chases. To the DCM and MGTOW groups, they don't actually want to be seperate from the other. They're making power plays to get the other to come chasing them to beg them back. Let's take the example of DCM and Passport Bros. On the one hand you hear some of the more casual supporters of DCM actively say they don't care what men do as long as they leave them alone. They make it clear they have no interest in romantic interactions and are not viable candid… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/24 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Boys aren't going to the manosphere or red pill content because they necessarily like what's being said. They feel it's the only place they are authorized to be. And current feminist discourse isn't helping.I think you're take comes from a valid place of frustration but goes a little too far in areas | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/24 11:43 PM |
| 12 | Men are the only "oppressor" group that is expected to do better. And only "oppressor" group that are look down upon on for not living up to expectations.Because imo they were our accomplices, not entirely forced participants. A lot of white women had no problem rolling around in the blood money we made but the second the accountability police showed up, we're thrown under the bus and all that dirt that's clinging to them is now being desperately scrubbed off or pushed onto us. Like, yeah, we white guys did a lot of fucked up shit that needs to be called out, ended, and recognized. But the can't forget they were in that shit just as much as us, a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/24 05:38 PM |
| 6 | Boys aren't going to the manosphere or red pill content because they necessarily like what's being said. They feel it's the only place they are authorized to be. And current feminist discourse isn't helping.I would agree up to a point. I think the major issue is that feminist discourse has largely been taken over by a small faction of feminism who largely don't really engage with or understand men as a whole. I've seen the more inflammatory and toxic feminist videos and arguments boosted by the fact they are controversial and the fact the Manosphere readily boosts their messages to further discredit the movement. This creates a major issue in the average discussion about feminism as a movement for … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/24 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Boys aren't going to the manosphere or red pill content because they necessarily like what's being said. They feel it's the only place they are authorized to be. And current feminist discourse isn't helping.The primary issue here is that advocacy without opportunities to community will fall flat. It's not enough to merely argue and debate our points. But to review how to make our practices match our theory. Cause like I said, the Manosphere is really damn good at giving these guys a sense of community because of the low bar of entry. Whereas we tend to be much harder to get into due to the necessary personal work to undo a lot of our socialization. So we need a way to streamline our rhetoric to be … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/24 01:23 PM |
| 24 | A lot of people are really trying so hard to demonize single men. But they are struggling though.Piggybacking on that: The decenter men movement on its face seems good. Until you look at how much feminism in practice and rhetoric still demands men center women in their lives. By that I mean, some feminists are seeking to sever their traditional obligations in favor of dictating where men sit in their lives while still demanding men do not do the same. Men are still required to have women at the center of their world at all times. And when we aren't chasing them they get upset, but if we do,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/24 05:55 PM |
| 3 | Question for my fellow LWMA's, how do we respond to statements such as this one?I would say that is an incredibly reductive hypothetical that is completely devoid of any context beyond sex. And it frames it as if men are inherently violent towards women when that level of bioessentialism not only greatly stigmatized and discriminates against men based on just the fact they are guys, but also takes away the accountability of the guys who do participate in harmful or violent acts towards women. Cause it leads to the argument "Well it's in their nature. You don't get mad at a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/09/24 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Men getting in trouble for not interacting with women, is starting to be a serious problem. And this might get worse.I've noticed that. There's nothing wrong with them calling out toxic practices of ours but there definitely is a big double standard. Like many are happy keeping certian patriarchal systems in place so long as they don't harm or affect women negatively. I mean its a little silly, but how many of the women or feminist allies cared about challenging something like the draft until they were forced to be included? So many demonstrated they were happy to keep certain traditions that put men in the wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/09/24 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Men getting in trouble for not interacting with women, is starting to be a serious problem. And this might get worse.Like am I insane for thinking that? I constantly feel like they say they want men to change their toxic masculinity but only focus on getting the cooperation of the men who embrace and overdose on toxicity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/09/24 08:53 PM |
| 4 | Men getting in trouble for not interacting with women, is starting to be a serious problem. And this might get worse.The problem is that they want the "masculine" toxic guys to change for them because they still follow the traditional expectations of masculinity. Now I don't wanna speak broadly since a lot of women are getting a lot better at this, but a lot of the feminist efforts seem obsessed with focusing on converting or getting allies from the more toxic, red pill, traditionally masculine men who have little to no interest in the arguments they have. And they tend to ignore, belittle, or even blame guys … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/09/24 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Men getting in trouble for not interacting with women, is starting to be a serious problem. And this might get worse.That's the problem I face as an ally. They take male allies for granted because they want the men who don't listen to anyone to listen to them. Then, they attack us for the actions of the guys who no one will ever get through to. Because they know we're safe and we are willing to endure all manner of hypocrisy and blame for the sake of healing. But at certian points it becomes an issue of who they're trying to get on their side. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/09/24 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Therapy most of the time doesn't work for men, and here's why.I wanna add that currently, the field of therapy is kind of flooded with therapists who joined the profession for the wrong reasons. Many of my therapists had little interest in helping me or even knowing what they were doing. It felt more like they were trying to prove to themselves how in touch they were with other people over actually listening and understanding the issues I had. One even used my sessions as his personal nap time. Another problem to me, it seems a lot of people (especially wo… | /r/MensRights | 17/09/24 06:51 PM |
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