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Why do you feel like you need women’s permission? That’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:50 PM
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Men obviously don’t have to pay, but women also don’t have to go on a second date with that guy if ‘he pays’ is her standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:30 AM
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The contrast between the options in this post vs the Q4W one is striking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:25 PM
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I think she got with him because ‘taking’ a married man away from his pregnant wife feeds her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:39 PM
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Why no high waisted trousers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:28 PM
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The ‘male loneliness epidemic’ is not women’s problem. Therefore it’s not our responsibility to fix it - it’s men’s. I’m very pro-OLD. It’s always worked well for me. Why should I change how I behave when it’s working for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:18 PM
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Why are these guys arguing for really crappy, toxic relationships? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:02 PM
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Why can’t these guys stop whinging about it and actually do what they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:12 PM
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I don’t care about men having standards regarding sexual history. I also have standards regarding n-count. I do have an issue when there’s double standards and they’re assholes about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:16 AM
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Yeah, it’s definitely not something I agree with, but that’s what I feel like is going on with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:17 PM
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The closest connection I can see is the RP thing that women like abusive men, not decent guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:55 PM
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No. I definitely give him less slack. He should be treating me better than anyone else in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:54 AM
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Such low tier gold digging. Embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:01 PM
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What a bunch of yapping. You could have just gotten to the point and said ‘I hate women’.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:35 AM
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I have a clarifying question: what do you mean - specifically - by normalisation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:14 PM
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For me, I think I’d say smoking, or I don’t like his family and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:23 PM
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No one where I live has one and most of the ones I’ve seen online have been filming the exterior of houses. Also, everything’s legal if it’s not reported. 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:34 PM
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Where I am, you can’t record someone without their consent when they had a ‘reasonable expecting of privacy’. It’s important to be careful with that (although it’s possible your area just doesn’t have privacy laws).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:27 PM
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I won’t 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:24 PM
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Men can feel whatever they want about women’s body count. I also considered men’s body count when I was dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:24 PM
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Sorry I’m late with my answer.- was busy. Yes and yes. But so are the men involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:22 PM
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No, it’s not. It could simply be a fawn response imo, but that’s the sort of thing I think the guy you were responding to meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:20 PM
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This would not be legal in my jurisdiction. You can’t record someone without their consent, especially in a sexual context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:18 PM
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Some of the things people are saying in this thread is just basic human decency. It’s worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:13 PM
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I think I’ve seen some cases where the alleged victim was texting the guy afterwards and saying nice things to him etc. I presume that’s what he’s getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:11 PM
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I don’t need anyone’s permission to have my opinions. I would note that I didn’t say anything about promiscuity; this is a conflation of two different things. The same applies to men who care about n count (i.e., it’s absurd to expect from someone something you’re not also willing/able to do yourself).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:21 AM
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No, that’s still cheating. But I’ll go one step further, I wouldn’t date a man I knew had used prostitutes in the past. It’s repulsive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:34 AM
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It was about three or four months in, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:32 AM
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Why do you think it’s disrespectful? Do the men look offended? How do you know it isn’t just playful teasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:28 PM
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The 40 year old is not some decrepit old man who wouldn’t be able to do anything to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:31 PM
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I think most women who avoid them in dating will just have the standard that they won’t date RP men, but that doesn’t mean they’re extra nice to other types of men. It just means they haven’t been disqualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:44 AM
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Why would them not being RP mean we’d treat men better than before RP became popularised?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:38 PM
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What do you mean by respect? I think this man can get the same level of respect as any other decent human. However, he is not an ally. To be an ally, he would have to actively be furthering feminism in some way. Why should he get kudos from feminists for doing the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:44 PM
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This is a bad shitpost. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:23 AM
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Of course. Why wouldn’t they be? As an aside, I do think expecting other people to change or grow is a non starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:48 PM
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3, 2, 1 for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:38 PM
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I just don’t see the appeal of older men (especially significantly older men) for just sex? But I don’t care unless it’s super extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:53 AM
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I think if it gets to the point where you need to dump people (especially that frequently), you need to consider whether you’re vetting strongly/thoroughly enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:59 PM
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Why hasn’t he been in relationships before?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:40 PM
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You want a study? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/306550604_When_Women_Do_Not_Want_It_Young_Female_Bargoers'_Experiences_With_and_Responses_to_Sexual_Harassment_in_Social_Drinking_Contexts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:54 PM
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So do I, but I know my blind spots. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:51 PM
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How is it ‘contentless’.? I am a woman who has been a part of these groups of women in pubs. I know OP’s interpretation isn’t correct in general because of my irl experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:46 PM
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I can’t decide if this person was supposed to be an asshole or it was helpful. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:38 PM
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I never want to make absolute statements, I’m sure it does happen. I’ve never seen it irl, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:27 PM
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It’s really weird to generalise with the exception and not the rule. Thjs feels like an extreme minority thing tbh. Never seen it irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:23 PM
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True. I think this is very dependent on the person. This would work well for me precisely because I’d be hyped to try it, but other women would feel this way about 2 or 3
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:54 PM
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This just proves OP doesn’t understand female friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:52 PM
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I’d probably prefer 1 (because I love tech and would be super interested to try a Vision Pro). I would probably be less interested in 2 and 3 because they don’t align with my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:41 PM
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This is actually hilarious 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:42 PM
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This wouldn’t work for me, especially if I still had to be working. It would make me resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:20 PM
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I’m talking about dating men, not causal sex. Also, I do background checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:01 PM
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It’s not immediate, but it tends to become clear very quickly ime. His job title, the company he works for, how he dresses, grooming, the cost of dates, his house/apartment, gifts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:00 PM
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I never claimed you did? I agree character is important (as I said above). I also don’t think most women date without any reference to guy’s character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:58 PM
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We’re not animals, we absolutely can (and should) not tolerate worse treatment because we find the man attractive. Tbh though I’ve never seen this irl
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:03 PM
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People want an attractive and successful partner; there’s nothing wrong with that. However, I do think having standards for the man character should be (at least) equally important. It’s important to be critical when meeting new people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:01 PM
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Standards should absolutely include the guy’s character. Ugly guys aren’t inherently more dangerous, I just think physical attraction is important to maintaining a successful relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:29 PM
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Yes, women should have higher standards. Also, it’s easier to immediately ascertain income level and physical attractiveness, so I can see why they would show up more on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:24 PM
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I agree. Women should have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:23 PM
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I agree that standards can be too high (especially if they only relate to physical attractiveness/income), but only if you can’t find people who can meet them. Like I said in another reply, I think it depends on the particular standard. Not all standards relate solely to physical attractiveness or income. For example, some of my standards are: no kids, can’t be raised by a single parent or have an obviously dysfunctional family, can’t have a criminal record, can’t have a high body count, must ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:58 PM
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This is my parents. My mum met my stepdad when she was divorced, 34 with five kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:57 PM
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I remember a post last week. People in the comments were complaining that women didn’t want men to know where they lived on a first date because it meant those women thought all men were abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:47 PM
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Yeah, I think that’s a (somewhat) valid criticism of my point. It definitely depends on what the particular standard is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:36 PM
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I agree that a lot of people here are talking out of both sides of their mouths. You can’t tell women to ‘choose better’ and also criticise us because yyoh perceive our standards to be too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:12 PM
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No, I think this is perfectly fine (and was my preference when I was dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:00 AM
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In that case, I like to think it wouldn’t get in the way (outside of other factors).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:33 AM
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Is he still friends with these other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:08 AM
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An important part of my vetting is that I won’t do anything sexual with someone I’m not already in a relationship with. So, it’s never been an issue for me; if they want access to me in that way, they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:11 AM
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That makes no sense though. Wouldn’t shaming men for watching porn mean less customers for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:29 PM
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I was bullied in school, but I don’t remember the actual number of times I’ve been ‘insulted’ because it’s irrelevant information
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:12 AM
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Maybe they’re dating men in their 30s? Maybe they’re being very loose with their definitions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:08 PM
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I mean, it would certainly be an interesting social experiment 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:36 PM
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Why do you want this? How does this benefit you vs a monogamous relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:12 PM
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That isn’t exactly what I meant. I was thinking of the mother’s voice and heartbeat (etc) in development. I think there could be unforeseen consequences to this technology. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7981479/#:~:text=Both%20the%20newborn%20and%20fetus,effects%20on%20the%20developing%20brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:28 PM
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I don’t think it would have a significant effect. To be honest, I’m more interested in how this would affect the children created using this technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:02 PM
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It gives him more leverage to set the terms of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:37 PM
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They can only have this kind of control when the woman ‘needs’ them. You can go without your wants, but not your needs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:29 PM
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I think you might feel affection for him, but the one you really love is yourself. If one loves someone, acting in a way that would cause them such intense pain (esp because you need him to be unaware) wouldn’t be pleasurable imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:52 AM
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So nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:59 AM
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I think this only applies in the UK, but you can ask police if someone you’re dating has a record of DV.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:03 PM
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Yeah, I’m not sure what I should think about the women he’s talking about tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:03 PM
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Especially for the first date(s)! Also, I don’t think I come off as ‘on edge’ unless I’m actively uncomfortable in the situation 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:42 PM
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The first one sounds like a weird joke that didn’t translate well. The second one is my exact opinion. Daytime dates in public, no addresses, and no phone numbers is how I do OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:31 PM
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I believe that women may experience heightened negative emotions, but I’m not aware of any evidence suggesting that’s true otherwise. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4928818/#:~:text=Numerous%20studies%20have%20shown%20that,disorders%20%5B4–7%5D.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:02 PM
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This is an interesting comment. You start off with a gendered stereotype and end it with ‘it’s not 1950’? At least be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:41 PM
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Yes, it applies to relationships, but only at the beginning. A woman appreciating/reciprocating is not her chasing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:39 PM
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Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification, although I disagree. I read it as you thought your wife (as an individual) has a greater capacity than you( as an individual) for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:21 PM
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Who said always? Chasing only happens in the courtship phase; it’s very finite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:18 PM
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Could you clarify on why this is bad advice? You’ve just stated it’s not true for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:25 PM
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I agree with this. The man should always be chasing the woman in relationships. If that’s not the case, he doesn’t like you and should be filtered out on that basis. Did none of your female relatives ever tell you to make sure he loves you more than you love him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:58 PM
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I really don’t. I can be dominant or we can have sex with no power exchange, but dominance in men is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:44 PM
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No. I would absolutely never entertain this foolishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:09 PM
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I met my BF on Hinge! 💘✨ Agree with what others have said. If I was active, 10+ matches a day. I always swiped from people who already liked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:07 PM
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I would argue the current problems with dating are a symptom of the larger issue; not the cause of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:05 PM
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No value judgements here. I’m just pointing out this is still a minority thing. Most women are still dating men. (And if we stopped, there would be great wailing and gnashing of teeth).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:22 AM
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I think they have this fantasy of ‘untouched virgin who’ll fuck them on the first date because of their overpowering masculinity’, and that’s what’s underpinning this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:21 AM
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I didn’t say that. And he should; that’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:53 PM
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I agree. Stop shaming straight women for not experiencing their sexuality in the same way as straight men do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:53 PM
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Okay, but are they actually dating other women in significantly higher numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:49 PM
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Either you want women to have low n counts and not engage in casual sex or you want easy access to sex. You can’t have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:15 PM
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Source? In any case, I hope to hear less about the ‘make loveless epidemic’ now that we’ve agreed this is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:12 PM
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I did. Even if I were to accept his premise, the reason those women don’t date other women is the same reason he doesn’t date other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:41 PM
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This guy doesn’t seem to like women very much. Maybe he should take his own advice? 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:26 PM
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I don’t think this is a good idea. I think it would be more difficult vs the traditional model. I also think an important part of parenting is modelling behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:43 PM
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In general, yes. They would not be able to get away with it otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:40 PM
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Go off? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:14 PM
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I know that they have historically not been enforceable in the UK and Ireland. https://www.international-divorce.com/prenups_around_the_world.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:08 PM
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If he struggles with dating to this degree, he’s not high value. You don’t determine your own value, other people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:01 PM
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With the caveat that prenups are not enforceable in a lot of jurisdictions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:17 PM
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I don’t believe OP is a woman. They still come off as shitty. 🤷🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:55 AM
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You need thicker skin if you’re going to do OLD. Keep swiping if it’s obvious this isn’t your person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:03 PM
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I think it would change the risk benefit analysis for engaging with men in any capacity. I think a lot more women (including average and below average women) would just choose not to have relationships with men as a response. I also think vigilantism would increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:36 PM
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I met my boyfriend on OLD (Hinge).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:13 AM
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I don’t have causal sex, so never.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:43 PM
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I’ll split if he asks. There won’t be a second date, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:41 AM
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Absolutely not. I will not be anyone’s forever girlfriend. I always lay out my timeline at the beginning to make sure we’re on the same page re marriage and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:38 PM
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Why is she dissatisfied? So, you just don’t value women’s contributions? Noted. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:44 PM
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In a lot of relationships, the woman is the organiser (plans things, organises logistics, fills out paperwork). Doesn’t necessarily mean she’s ended the relationship. Men are more likely to stay in failing marriages and just detach themselves; women are more likely to be proactive. (https://themarriagerestorationproject.com/who-is-more-likely-to-leave-a-bad-relationship/#:~:text=2)%20Men%20are%20more%20emotionally,to%20stay%20than%20to%20leave.). In these circumstances, the relationship was alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:09 PM
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No, it’s not. The fact that women are the ones filing doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the ones ending the relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:53 PM
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The fact that women file for most divorces doesn’t prove your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:43 PM
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Men are so ungrateful. This is why you don’t ‘build’ with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:59 PM
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Absolutely not. Any kind of drug use is a dealbreaker for me. The fact that this person is an addict makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:59 PM
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This could never work for me. I will just stop engaging if I don’t feel like he’s interested. Maybe it works for more insecure women? Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:32 PM
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Nah. Guy 2 seems like he doesn’t care about the girl at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:04 PM
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I think, as far as my family goes, it would depend. They might be concerned that some values might not mesh well across cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:53 PM
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That’s totally fine by me. I don’t want a man who doesn’t want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:51 PM
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No, that’s too low of a standard. I think perjury rules should apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:04 PM
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I think so, but there would have to be evidence of active deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:58 PM
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I’m not really flirtatious, but I’m not against using my femininity to get men to do things for me occasionally
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:58 PM
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I’m suspicious of what that would look like in practice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:15 PM
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I’d said that in the thread with OP. 😆 (My opinion is that both are basically equal and both should be acceptable.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:38 PM
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gyms are not public places, they’re private businesses I never said they were owned by the public. I said they were places of public accommodation which are open to the public. If the gym allows for filming, you assume that risk. women are the ones that sexualise themselves. I do agree with this. I don’t have an issue with him filming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:32 PM
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Gyms are a place of public accommodation, so still a public place. The implication that this guy is trying to communicate is clear. He doesn’t need to explicitly state it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:21 PM
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I will look. Yes, I agree that that’s what he is attempting to convey. However, people are allowed to have opinions about how others behave/dress. Edit: I think it may have have been this one. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/hfmfVfri7h
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:17 PM
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Yes. In both situations, the people being filmed are being shamed for perceived bad behaviour. In this case, the women are being shamed for being ‘sluts’ and dressing in a revealing manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:15 PM
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On TikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe2TJF6G/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:06 PM
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I remember there being a thread about that a while ago. Lots of the men on here thought it was terrible. I just think that they should be consistent if that’s their opinion. I agree. I don’t have an issue with either situation. I think it should be okay to record people in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:58 PM
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If it’s wrong for women to record men who they think are being creepy towards them, it’s definitely wrong for men to record women clubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:49 PM
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4 and 6 are both acceptable. I would be opposed to the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:47 PM
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I think it’s fine to not date whoever for whatever reason, as long as you’re not rude about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:01 PM
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I have a low body count, but my guess would be if it were a lot bigger it would start to actually be uncomfortable for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:17 PM
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I think they’re mostly innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:26 PM
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I don’t engage with rude people. 👋🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:11 PM
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The onus is on you to make an argument with enough detail to be discussed, not on me to make one up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:52 PM
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As I said, men and women have different standards because they value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:52 PM
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I am on the shy/introverted side and have always dated men more who were more extricerted, socially adept, and charming. It’s never occurred to me that this would be a problem. Men and women have different standards/preferences for potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:50 PM
5

This post is too vague. It depends on what specifically you’re proposing people change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:43 AM
15

Explain how this setup would benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:40 AM
4

Men do lie, but most of them aren’t as good as they think they are. Yes, I’m very straightforward about it. In general, I have the conversation at some point after the third date and before the fifth date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:12 AM
3

I think it would only be an issue if he stopped trying to meet my needs. I think I would become resentful if I felt my effort (in the bedroom) wasn’t being reciprocated with effort outside of the bedroom. Currently we have sex about three times a week. It would depend on how much more frequently he wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:55 PM
5

And that’s valid, but it’s literally never been an issue for me when I’m dating. My experience has been that men don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:34 PM
5

I know that the overall quality of the relationship will be affected by the frequency of sex, so it’s something that I make sure to track (because it’s easy for me to forget about). It’s not an innate priority for me, it’s something I choose to prioritise because I want my relationship to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:32 PM
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I’m relatively meh about sex in general. I don’t think about it often, but I enjoy sex when I’m doing it with the right partner. Because being exclusive is an aspect of the relationship that’s very important to me. I’d rather be single than be with someone who isn’t invested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:13 PM
8

No, if my partner ever expressed any interest in that kind of setup, I would immediately end it. That’s not the kind of relationship I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:05 PM
9

I don’t think my boyfriend would like that plan😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:47 PM
21

Yeah, me too. For me, it’s not uncomfortable; it’s just not pleasurable at all. I think we’re at the other end of the spectrum from women who can orgasm purely from vaginal stimulation. IMO most women are in between those two points.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:52 PM
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Yeah, I’d heard it before and thought I’d have a look to see if there was any evidence that it could actually happen. It appears to just be something made up to shame women for wanting to experience sexual pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:48 PM
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This is just your preference. Please just say that and stop trying to ‘prove’ it with logical fallacies. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:46 PM
5

I’ve heard of this. I can’t find any evidence for it online, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:34 PM
8

I saw this one at the time! Didn’t realise it was the same OP, but it definitely tracks. 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:14 PM
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Is the hypergamy in the room with us now? 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:28 PM
32

No one is forcing you to have a LTR with these women. If you don’t want one, that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:01 PM
2

Also, I think we’re getting away from the point slightly. Casual sex will be more beneficial for men because for them it’s the goal, whereas for women it’s an (ineffective) strategy to reach the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:52 AM
2

Yes, but it’s an unnecessary risk with a very low rate of return.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:28 AM
2

Yeah, I’ve definitely heard of that that with men. “I love you. I can’t be rough/call you names in bed.” I think it would depend on how important the particular act(ivity) is to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:49 AM
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For me, it depends entirely on the ‘why’? Are they putting in less effort because they perceive that they don’t have to? Or, especially in a sexual context, did they try it once with a previous partner and realise they actually don’t like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:40 PM
13

This entirely depends on the specific details of the situation. Why don’t they want to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:19 PM
8

I think it’s (slightly) earlier for women and later for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 07:56 PM
1

This is not the approach of most women. For good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:21 PM
6

I think it’s a risky mating strategy. They think they can use casual sex as an ‘in’ and later manoeuvre the situation into a more committed relationship. (I don’t think this is necessarily all women who engage in hookups, but I do think this is the most common scenario. )
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:37 PM
2

I’m specifically talking about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:44 PM
2

Not consistently, maybe. But most men could get it periodically, especially if they were not selective. More options for what, though? Casual sex? That’s not an attractive proposition to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:27 PM
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They get easy/commitment free sex. The men on this sub would have us believe that’s every man’s highest priority in life. Women do not have more options. There is just the illusion of more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:12 PM
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Yes, but men are the only ones who benefit in those hookups. It doesn’t matter that most men can’t expect that that’ll happen consistently to the standard they’d want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:48 PM
1

Yes, I definitely think it benefits men more than women. (Obvious some men more than others 😅).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:07 PM
12

It’s a total dealbreaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:55 PM
13

If your definition of a ‘healthy male-female dynamic’ is one where they are trapped together no matter what, you come at this from a place so different from me that it’s pointless to debate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:59 PM
1

21F. 5, 4, 8, 6, 9, 3, 2, 8, 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:17 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:11 PM
3

It would only be a carrousel if I were having sex with them. I only have sex with men im in an exclusive, defined relationship with. I’ve only ever been with two 🤷🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:09 PM
2

Say it ain’t so! 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:01 PM
1

No, I get that but why would he assume I’m having sex with these men? I’m not. 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:24 PM
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Depends on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:46 PM
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My current boyfriend: 5’11”, I find him handsome (maybe a 6.5 or 7), works as middle management in a hotel in our city and is also in the process of having his first book published. We both dated other people before we were officially exclusive. He claims he stopped after our second or third date though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:45 PM
1

How is that ‘carrousel’, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:41 PM
1

I don’t agree, but I also feel like you’re being vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:13 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:43 PM
2

This is a very small subset of women and the ones that do want that will seek it out in a kink context.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:41 PM
1

What do you mean? I’ve lived this exact situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:39 PM
14

I think these women might be hinting at what they would prefer in the bedroom 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:27 PM
5

In that circumstance, I think it’s a fair standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:14 PM
9

Yeah, imo it’s effective for when people want relationship benefits without properly committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:14 PM
6

Yep. I’ve always found it great for that. When I make it clear that I’m still dating other men, they scramble to commit. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:22 PM
9

That’s fine, if you are also not seeing other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:19 PM
19

Yes. That’s not my boyfriend, so it’s nothing to me. However, I would not have sex with him until we’re exclusive and I have an up-to-date, negative STI test.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:18 PM
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That’s okay. I can just wait and see. I’ll obviously date other men who do the things I want in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:12 PM
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Definitely my current boyfriend. We met on OLD. Physical attributes I found him quite physically attractive from his photos, but I definitely find him a lot more so now. He’s a good 10/11” taller than me, has a good face, nice eyes, and is relatively fit. He’s lost a large amount of weight in the last year, which was a green flag. Money/status Not massively. He earns more than me. I’m in college and he graduated a few years ago. The biggest thing for me is that he’s generous. He’s always bringin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:22 PM
8

It would depend on the nature of the neurodivergence and how it presented itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:05 PM
3

Maybe it’s just because I don’t know anyone who does it? Maybe it feels like weird to be so concerned about the specific number like she is? This also feels like unnecessary sleuthing. You can tell how much most people earn once you’ve been dating for a few months. To be honest, I don’t have a logical reason for why this is weird to me. It’s just the gut reaction I had after reading the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:26 AM
15

I think it’s a little weird and I don’t know anyone who does this. It’s also usually easy to ballpark, especially as you get into dating the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:41 AM
9

Exactly. Women idol worship different sorts of people than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:25 PM
18

This isn’t true. Women just do not do it for the same type of people as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:28 PM
2

No, you can’t flip the logic here. What I said above is true because it’s the standard/expected way for proposals to happen. If you want to go against the grain, be prepared for people to have opinions about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:26 PM
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🤣 everyone gets rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:06 PM
10

I did. We’re mostly responding to the last bit. Most women are not interested in that (which is the normal proposition). Polyandry is even more rare than polygyny. The same arguments apply. Why would women want that? Why would men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:01 PM
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Any man who was genuinely desirable to me would become instantly undesirable by even mentioning this idea positively. The only situations in which this could ever work is: Women with no self-esteem or respect to speak of OR Where they don’t give a singular crap about him and are just using him as a human ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:46 PM
10

In general, I think men who don’t propose simply aren’t interested in committing to marriage (or, at least, not to that particular woman). If he were, he would propose. So, when a woman does it, it looks like she’s desperate and trying to force a commitment out of him that he doesn’t actually want to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:29 PM
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Yes, women are people too. When you choose to involve yourself with obviously shitty people, expect that to be reflected in how they treat you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:19 AM
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These are the consequences of the series of choices you took. Pick better 🤷🏻 Edit: grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:14 AM
15

The real answer is because then they couldn’t have it both ways - which is what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:10 AM
3

Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:25 AM
2

Could be either - or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:38 PM
8

This is true. Nothing is ever risk-free, but you can minimise it by doing better vetting. I also would not endorse having sex in new relationships that early. There are also other risks aside from pregnancy and STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:18 PM
4

Only a minority of women can. (As an aside, I have heard anecdotally that men are lazier with casual sex, so yeah).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:18 PM
9

I would say because, when we have casual sex, we take on more of the risks that are associated with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:12 PM
0

I’m glad you don’t feel bad; you shouldn’t. Can I ask why you wouldn’t do it again though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:10 PM
23

Women should not engage in casual sex with men. It is to their benefit and our detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:17 PM
16

No. I don’t do casual sex. However, I would screen out some men for relationships if I felt they were high risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:44 PM
1

I don’t have a very defined ‘type’ for this, but my preferences are: High earning potential and medium/high job security. Actually enjoys most aspects of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:43 PM
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🍿🍿🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:30 PM
4

I think it would depend on the specifics of both situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:29 PM
1

Dishes: daily. Can’t stand a dirty kitchen. Laundry: once a week. I put on three washes and also spend a few hours handwashing delicate items. Hovering/mopping: this is outsourced. Cleaner comes once a week. Trash: once a week (or thereabouts). Bathroom: cleaner does it once a week. Cooking: every day (unless we’re eating out). Edit: fixed a typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:00 AM
4

I just don’t agree that this has ever existed in history. We are not worse to each other than we have been historically, we’re just more open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:03 PM
11

What do you mean ‘spiritually’? A lot of the things you mentioned were always true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:01 PM
14

I don’t think your premise is true in general. Most men have not ‘abandoned’ women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:35 PM
5

This is very cultural. It’s not weird to live with your parents in your 20s, but it’s definitely not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:09 PM
1

I am, because if they have not achieved that, I am gambling that they will continue on that trajectory to reach their full potential (whatever that is). They could stagnate at the point they’re at, they could regress, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:07 PM
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I did (unfortunately).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:23 PM
2

Potential doesn’t mean anything. I have no reason to believe anything will come of it. Why should we gamble on men maybe becoming desirable to us in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:47 PM
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Obviously these men need to pick better. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:44 PM
1

I think, as long as it didn’t look surreal/uncanny (in the way too much work can sometimes), I wouldn’t have an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:58 AM
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In general, I’m very oblivious. Anything short of extreme directness will go way over my head. Edit: fixed spelling error.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:16 PM
2

No, never. This would drive me crazy. It would be excruciatingly painful. Any man who could do that to me is neither ‘everything I want’ or a ‘once in a lifetime opportunity’.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:49 AM
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I think it would because she’s made it clear she’s no longer satisfied with the prior arrangement. She wants more emotional investment and he isn’t interested in providing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:34 PM
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