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No surprise, hey?
/r/MensRights21/08/26 03:29 AM
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Yes, you surely can believe that, in this day and age, a mere ALLEGATION of a 'touch of the butt' is enough to spark an investigation with resources which in my day would have used for a homicide investigation. The "me too" movement and rabid feminists (and I do not include most women, who are reasonable and simply want equality) have led us here. This is much more than overkill; it is a disgraceful waste of public resources. IF, and it is a big if, this matter ever got to court, it would be dea…
/r/MensRights20/08/26 09:20 PM
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My comment about due process means: "shut up, let the police investigate, and IF there is a charge, let the courts process proceed". The presumption of innocence is what is being eroded here.
/r/MensRights20/08/26 03:07 AM
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That is exactly the point I am making. But I don't think that you can infer from the board's comments (or the idiotic statements from the CEO) that there IS something in it. The concern they express is AS A RESULT OF the media and public speculation., i.e. because of this shitstorm we are stuffed. That is in no way acknowledging the truth of any allegation.
/r/MensRights20/08/26 03:05 AM
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This should be at the start - apologies. This is looking like a real media beat-up. First, we were told there were FIVE players involved in a sexual assault allegation (with the media and public speculation along the lines of: "pack rape").
/r/MensRights20/08/26 02:12 AM
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BTW - 1 post karma???? ROFLLLL! A very good illustration of what people think about your views methinks. Hiliarious!
/r/MensRights19/08/26 11:49 PM
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This is simply ideological gibberish. The point I made about stealthing is that is ALSO goes against long-established principle. It is no doubt an appeasement to feminist ideoloues, because it has no sound legal or moral basis (when it comes to categorising it as rape). And regarding the removal, you are, once again, completely wrong. I am currently discussing the reasons with the main mod. team, and I can assure youthat they are nothing to do with your guesswork. In any event, it is not worth m…
/r/MensRights19/08/26 11:48 PM
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What a rant. "Shit stain post", "rape apologist"? The go-to is ad hominem attacks. Your logical analysis is comparable to your capacity ofr repsectful exchange of views. And as to removal of a post - well, with Redditors like you, it is hard for moderators not to bow to pressure (illogical and ideologically drievn as it may be.)
/r/MensRights18/08/26 11:17 PM
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It is nothing at all to do with "soemone's personal safety". How is safety at all relevant to this issue? Nor is it about considering prostitutes to be something less than other females. It is about applying the law appropriately and proportionately. Your outrage is misplaced my friend.
/r/MensRights17/08/26 10:15 PM
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Your argument is the technical legal rationale for the legislation characterising this as rape. It is seductively appealing but does not stand up to scutiny. There are a few reasons why I say it is absurd. Firstly, it confuses bodily violation with economic fraud. In doing this is actually downplays the gravity of rape. Secondly, it is a disproportionate response to what is simple theft. The women agrees to sex, there is no 'violation' at the time sex occurs. The 'violation' is retrospective - n…
/r/MensRights17/08/26 10:09 PM
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Here is a link. An earlier conviction for the same thing occurred in New South Wales. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/a-man-lied-about-paying-this-woman-for-sex-he-is-now-going-to-jail-for-rape-20260806-p60m0q.html
/r/MensRights17/08/26 03:37 AM
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I think the problem is that it is almost impossible to quantify. Firstly, the police forces and prosecuting agencies have different criteria for what is 'false'. Some have a low bar, some a high bar. Also, we need to decide whether we include allegations not formally made to police. One thing we can safely say is: people (all people, not only women) will lie when they see an advantage in doing so. Studies of false rape allegations identify a lot of the incentives, including revenge, extortion, j…
/r/MensRights14/08/26 02:12 AM
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There are some valid points you have made, but you downplay the victimhood mentality behind this issue. Feminism has for a long time argued that women are the victims of 'the patriarchy', and this permeates the faux issue of "medical misogyny". This is evident even from the selection of that description - women are "hated" by medicine/practitioners/researches etc. It is a ridiculous term to use, and it illustrates a victimhood mindset. When pressed, feminist defenders argue that it is just a ter…
/r/MensRights11/08/26 11:23 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is not correct. Perjury and making a false statement to police are both well-established offences in the US. But, like elsewhere in the 'common law' world (such as UK, Canada, Australia, etc.) these offences are not prosecuted in the space we are talking about (false allegations of DV and sexual assault). (See the discussion about the reasons for this.)
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:30 PM
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Great piece from Bettina Arndt. She has been fighting on this front for a long time.
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:18 PM
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Good on you. It will be frustrating, but unless men highlight injustices like this, nothing will change. It is no good complaining if you are not prepared to stand up for what is fair and right. And bar associations are made up of lawyers who know what actually happens at the coalface, so they are a great avenue for arguing for change.
/r/MensRights11/08/26 03:56 AM
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And very little consideration is given to any evidence which does not fit the narrative.
/r/MensRights11/08/26 03:50 AM
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Yes, it is a frightening scenario for men, especially those with children. Regarding the refusal to prosecute for perjury (or even for making a false statement to police), this is pretty much universal. And I am talking about clear cases where the female has knowingly fabricated material evidence. The reason given by prosecuting authities, and then parroted by senior police, is straight out of the feminist playbook - IF we prosecute any women for perjury, this will dissuade genuine victims from …
/r/MensRights11/08/26 03:43 AM
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While they are not explicit instructions to side with the female, frontline officers in most Australian jurisdictions (and I would be pretty confident that these are replicated in the US and UK) are instructed to evaluate who holds the "systemic power" and who has a "history of control". Also, they are directed to consider whether one party's actions were acts of self-defense. Considered together, these amount to pretty strong pressures on police to side with the female. Also, women are far more…
/r/MensRights11/08/26 01:52 AM
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Yes, and this is because police have been instructed when there are two parties claiming DV to side with the female.
/r/MensRights10/08/26 11:25 PM
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True.
/r/MensRights10/08/26 11:23 PM
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I agree that it is very difficult to prove false allegations of rape for the reasons you have given. One thing to remember though is that just because a prosecution fails does not mean that it was based on a false allegation. As you know, in criminal matters the State must prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. Juries may think that a person is guilty on the balance of probabilities, but that is not enough. However, it is not ncessary to prove the percentage of rape allegations that are false, or …
/r/MensRights10/08/26 09:43 PM
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Oh my, what an open wound I have touched. I will endeavour not to inflame you further with my lack of 'expertise', but I will point out that your powers of observation are lacking a bit. One simple correction will illustrate this: I am 75. (But I would dearly love to be a kid again.). I am retired, but was a litigation lawyer and prosecutor in major crime trials. I was paid pretty well, and guess that is a decent job, but what do I know (I no doubt lack expertise in this area also.) So, I suspec…
/r/MensRights10/08/26 01:57 AM
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Methinks thou protesteth too much. Your observation that my"methodology is deeply flawed and you clearly have no expertise in the area" is simply a gratuitous insult. But that is no surprise in this space. As to "screaming about stuff", I will only say that I will let Redditors decide who is actually doing the "screaming". And your ability to determine that I "really dont care about" is really spooky. (Can I have this week's lotto numbers please?)
/r/MensRights09/08/26 09:14 PM
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Another example where ideology ignores reasoning and logic. Ideology is a pair of blinkers which let's you see whatever color you want. (But you know this already, hey, Glad-Way. )
/r/MensRights09/08/26 01:33 AM
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Spot on!
/r/MensRights08/08/26 02:56 AM
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Good points.
/r/MensRights08/08/26 01:30 AM
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Sources? "Even in Ancient Greece"? OMG.
/r/MensRights08/08/26 12:48 AM
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No! It couldn't be! It must be a vast misogynistic conspiracy to harm all women. Get a grip.
/r/MensRights08/08/26 12:27 AM
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A pleasure. We do what we can to help.
/r/MensRights08/08/26 12:10 AM
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Brilliant retort. I wish I had your gift for gentle persuasion.
/r/MensRights08/08/26 12:06 AM
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I am not doing anyuthing of the sort. The 'white knight' argument is not my idea, nor do I say that it was a good idea. I simply state the fact the the REASON for women not being in early clinical trials (especially with new drugs, and especially with pregnant women or women of child-bearing age was to protect them. Right or wrong, it was not becuase of misandry (HATRED). It is true that the period cycle was another factor which was thought to have affected reserach outcomes (and it no doubt doe…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 12:05 AM
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As foolish as: "when women go to the doctors the first answer is always ‘it’s your period'?
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:48 PM
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I'll add another point - much of the news about medical misogyny comes out of so-called research into women's health treatment. Here in Australia, a major media outlet has done an entire series on it. The problem is: the 'research' consists of asking women to report perceived experiences of medical misogyny (whether it be misdiagnosis, inadequate pain relief, not being believed, etc.). Well, it should not be a surprise if you ask people to anonymously identify themselves as victims, you will get…
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:46 PM
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Yes, and that is the issue. If you are taught to see yourself as a victim, every action is perceived to be AGAINST you. Misdiagnosis is a great example. Nobody is disputing that this occurs, but where is the evidence that it only occurs with women, or at a higher rate with women?
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:40 PM
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The feminist playbook does not worry about sources. Cherry-picking data, multiplying by ten, and voila! 'Statistics'!
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:37 PM
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Well, I could deal with each of your points, but I don't think it would change your mind. Much of it is out of the feminist victimhood manifesto. Just to deal with the issue of research historically being done on men. While this is true in the past, the reasons put forward by some feminists that it is evidence of misogyny are nonsense. If you look up the historical reasons you will find that women were shielded from risky research - men were the guinea pigs, out of a desire to protect women. Not…
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:35 PM
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Yes, I have seen that. Morphing from a men's health charity to a women's domestic violence prevention charity.
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:29 PM
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I am in Oz, but the same thing here. When you look at medical reserach grants across the board, grants for research into female health issues dwarf those for male health issues (and that is excluding research for female reproductive issues).
/r/MensRights07/08/26 11:21 PM
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And vibralover just doesn't have a ring to it. So to speak.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 01:05 AM
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You lost me at 'bring Jesus into these discussions'. Leave your imaginary friend out of this important issue.
/r/MensRights25/03/26 07:08 PM
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But you can ensure that there is always an 'epidemic' of male violence against women by redefining violence as you go along. Emotional, verbal, coercive control......., there is no end to how it is possible to manipulate language.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 02:52 AM
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