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Same way anyone justifies why they should get special treatment: victimhood narrative. For some groups throughout history that victimhood narrative is occassionally legitimate, for women born in the western world in the 21st century not so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 04:36 PM
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Most people on reddit are American and they're always going to tell you that noone has gotten drafted since Vietnam. It is what it is. Men dying in Ukraine doesn't really bother anyone unfortunately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/26 02:59 PM
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You could legit just agree with the obviously true claim that a 5'6 guy is going to have a harder time dating heterosexual women on average than a 6'5 guy, and nobody would give you any trouble, but you decided to throw a hissy fit instead. I swear to god it's like trying to draw water from a stone with some of you whenever you have to agree that some men kind of just get fucked over in life through no fault of their own. Stop making shit up. You know reality. You've seen it. I'm not saying wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 03:47 AM
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Classic case of cherry picking. Breast cancer research gets way more funding than testicular cancer research but if you point that out you get called a misogynist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 08:38 AM
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I wrote a whole analogy about this before but the short version is that feminists are mad at the ceo while only being able to yell at the receptionist. Feminists scream at the men who they have access to, not the men who actually deserve it. They're mad, and rightly so, but just like a bunch of guys who are rightly mad at society take it out on women instead of trying to change society, so too do a bunch of women also take their frustrations out on random men as well. Unfortunately, the men who …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 11:17 AM
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Fair point but recognize where the accusation usually comes from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 09:56 PM
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I mean I would respect a nepobaby's opinion more if they were open about being a nepobaby, but Hasan is also knowingly and openly lying. He literally admits to it. Being a nepobaby is a bad look in general, true, but the real killer is openly admitting that you're lying. You could be broke and be from a broke family and lying would still be a bad thing. Hasan's fans just don't seem to notice it, or maybe they just don't care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 08:11 PM
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Hasan doesn't know shit about men, the working class, gender roles, politics, morality, or gaming. Legit just dont listen to him on any of these topics. In fact just dont listen to him in general, but especially not on these topics. He's legit just a guy who parachuted upwards because he's a nepobaby, he has nothing interesting to say. Also as an edit: Hasan viewers are literally the unfuckable losers he's talking about, people who play videogames are an insanely diverse crowd today, there are a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 06:50 PM
5

I legitimately wish that Americans would just be honest about why they circumcize their sons. At least jews are honest about it, I still disagree with their practices, but at least they will honestly tell me that it's a religious belief. Americans will perform circumcisions because they want their son to look like their father and they don't want their son to have an anteater dick, only to then try to tell you that they're actually only doing it for medical reasons. It almost feels like even you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 01:12 PM
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I mean I've made this joke before, but being up against a coalition of Jews, Muslims and Americans on literally the only issue they will ever agree on is a dangerous game to play. Circumcision is just supported by too many and too many powerful people, it's a rough one. These maps are pretty blatantly disinformation though, but what are you going to do?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 01:04 PM
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Can you explain this moral actor project further? It sounds interesting and I feel like it's very close to how to I personally feel about masculinity and how it works but I'm not sure I fully grasp what you're talking about right now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/26 11:36 PM
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Nah it's just the environment. Online gaming communities skew male, 16-30, introverted, lonely, and kind of socially "ungifted" let's say. It's just scammers and predators choosing their marks. If your mark is a 20 year old guy who spends too much time online, the best way to target them, bait them and reel them in is to convince them that an attractive woman shares their hobby and is interested in them. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. It's all the same gameplan at the end of the day fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 02:20 PM
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Your argument is a textbook example of a base rate fallacy. You're the one who isn't helping anyone's cause.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 12:14 AM
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The two reasons why people act callously is because they either don't care about the consequences of their behavior or because there are no consequences for their behavior. If you're in the kind of social bubble that people like AOC are in in terms of your job, environment and social relationships, there are zero consequences for shitting on men but everyone else is off limits, so when someone gets mad at something unrelated and feels the need to vent and call someone a name or two, they always …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 09:26 AM
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Lmao fuck masculinity, and not in the common "fuck men" kind of way, but genuinely, fuck anyone trying to tell you that you have to do something because you're a man. I think that the problem that a lot of feminists and progressives have is that behind all of their critiques and essays and podcasts and literature and whatnot, they still kind of want to control the definition of what masculinity is because they think that it's a useful way to control men's (or rather males') behavior. Language is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 02:02 PM
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It's just another example of the agency gap in action. When men and women commit crimes together, the woman's defense will almost always try to paint him as the mastermind and her as the unwitting getaway driver who was in way over their head. It's how women have gotten out of dodge for commiting horrible acts for millennia, nothing new under the sun.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 12:42 PM
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That's why it's called gay safari lmao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 02:35 PM
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I got perma'd a long time ago for, and I quote: "shitty post history". Idk, it's kind of a shame because I occasionally see interesting posts on menslib, it's not all bad, but the mods over there are insanely trigger happy with the banhammer and with censorship in general. I'm obviously biased towards my own opinions but I feel like if you scroll through my post history you can clearly tell that I'm a genuine person even if you disagree with some of the things I say, but on menslib being a genui…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/26 11:47 AM
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Point 1: This is a methodology question. I suspect that this is true in certain cases but you'd have to look at individual reports in order to know for sure. In general though statistics on homelessness are often a dark figure anyways because a lot of them avoid authorities like the plague. I will say though that assuming self-reported data, point 1 and point 3 somewhat defeat each other: if men are less likely to ask for help, then wouldn't it be them who were relatively underrepresented in the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 12:09 PM
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I generally agree with the sentiment and I think that people should be more aware of how the UNDP does mental gymnastics with statistics, but I do think you could've gone way harder on the unintuitive nature of the way in which index numbers are used. "Sidenote: While the authors talk about “gender-based disadvantage“, the index is casually interpreted by the media as a measure of sexism against women." This is an incredibly important observation, but I think you should've included more citation…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 11:39 AM
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For what you wrote about Othering, I recently ran into the term epistemic injustice, and although I'm sure that the people who came up with the term probably wouldn't like me claiming that feminism regularly commits epistemic injustice against men, I can't help but see the parallels. https://stimpunks.org/glossary/epistemic-injustice/ Some paragraphs that stand out to me: "Epistemic injustice refers to how people from marginalized communities are denied the opportunity to create knowledge and de…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 09:56 AM
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The thing that LGBT people all have in common is not that they're all LGBT, it's that conservatives think that they're all degenerates whose deviant sexualities and gender identities should be repressed and kept out of public view as much as possible, which to be fair, is a pretty good reason to band together all things considered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 12:50 PM
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The conversation is really only around degree and form, not whether these things are true or false. Disagree, that's not what manosphere people are trying to say when they're talking about alpha males. They're always going to follow it up with dumb shit about how men need to be 6 feet tall and be providers or about how it's natural for men to spread their seed far and wide while women should be monogamous or belong in harems. We've all seen those talking points be repeated a million times over. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 07:20 PM
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Yeah if you were trying to get nearest to humans, primates have plenty of examples, but we're not trying to get nearest to humans, we're trying to get to humans. Gorillas are polygynous, chimpanzees are promiscuous, gibbons bond for life. Bonobos are matrifocal and polyamorous and use sex to resolve social conflicts, baboons are matrilineal yet also have alpha males. Even among primates there is remarkable diversity in terms of mating strategies, so which one is us? You tell me. That's what I'm …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 06:08 PM
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Yes you were trying to be ambiguous, that's why your first comment is trying to do "both sides bad" rhetoric and it's also why you didn't just answer me straight up the first time I asked you whether you believed the concept of alpha males applied to humans. You can rhetorically ask me why you don't understand why that statement is so controversial, but you clearly already know that it's controversial, that's why I had to drag it out of you. I swear the most ironic thing about alpha male weirdos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 05:34 PM
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I think my comment was very clear considering I was completely right in my assumption and I read the "both sides are the same" attempt at ambiguity in your comment completely correctly lmao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 05:25 PM
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I think my comment was very clear. It sounds to me like you think that the concept of alpha males is applicable to humans and you don't want to come out for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 05:05 PM
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I also find it equally ridiculous that many have gone hard the other way and are now claiming that because that study was debunked, that it means that alpha males don't exist in any context. Neither side is that simple. Okay, so where do alpha males exist then? In humans? What are you really trying to say my friend, why is your comment so vague?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 03:51 PM
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In general people need to stop anthropomorphizing animals in their attempts to justify their own worldviews about how human society should be organized. Literally every single person who does this is always cherry picking without fail. They always conveniently focus on the precise animals that do exactly what they believe humans ought to do as well in order to claim that such behavior is "natural" , all the while ignoring and dismissing the behavior of every animal that does things differently o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 11:59 AM
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I think it's a really toxic combination of just world fallacy thinking and a chronic unwillingness to criticize women among progressives. As an example: I've gotten so much shit before for simply saying that your romantic life is generally easier if you're tall than if you're short as a man. Everybody knows that it's true and studies prove it over and over again but acknowledging that it's true makes women sound kind of shallow and puts some of the agency, responsibility and accountability for s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 10:46 AM
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I think you're overreacting tbh. I do think that the phenomenon of men's issues being presented as gender neutral while women's issues are given special gendered attention is real, but I don't think the loneliness epidemic is a good example of it. Women experience this too, everyone does, and things like elderly age, being LGBT or being an immigrant are better predictors of suffering from loneliness than gender is. Gender does play a role in how loneliness plays out in practice and how it manife…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 07:04 AM
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In my experience this is usually a genuine and legitimate statement, but it does make you wonder why they feel the need to say it in the first place. If they're being accused of being misandrist and they respond with this kind of phrase then you really need more context and information because it can still be legit but it's also sometimes a dodge and a form of obfuscation akin to the conservative "I don't hate LGBT people, I just hate the LGBT agenda/ideology" which is just a bullshit attempt to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/25 04:43 PM
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When all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail. When all you have is patriarchy theory, everything is misogyny. You're right in saying that homosexuality is hated because it strays from what people think is "normal", but I wouldn't say that homophobic people don't see gay men as men, they generally just see them as deviants. This is actually the source of homophobia towards both men and women: homosexuality is seen as straying too far from your gender norms and not adhering to your allowed …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 09:52 AM
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I don't handwave away all of feminism, I'm just saying some common feminist rhetoric is bigoted. And whenever they engage in that rhetoric, someone like you tends to crawl out of the woodwork to run defense for people who are very obviously saying bigoted things. It's bigoted but you agree with it so and you don't want to think of yourself as being bigoted so you resolve that cognitive dissonance by doing mental gymnastics in your head to try to convince yourself that obviously bigoted statement…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 04:29 PM
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Yeah I'm good lol, every bigot thinks it's different when they do it. Almost no bigot is just like: "yeah fuck this group in particular idk I just feel like it", they all have some kind of excuse, some kind of trauma, some kind of statistics to point at. That doesn't magically change when you're demonizing men (or trans women who you're treating like men in this case), sorry. I didn't say there was an ideological link, I said the rhetoric and framing was the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 03:02 PM
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What part of TERFS fearmongering about trans women being deviant males and degenerate sex pests is about material conditions again? Don't whitewash it man, I agree that feminism is not a right wing movement precisely because of what you said about hierarchies but feminists in general (not just terfs) absolutely have a tendency to use very right wing sounding rhetoric in their criticisms of men. Fearmongering about immigrants and fearmongering about men is often the exact same rhetoric, just with…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 01:51 PM
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It's not that defying gender norms is something that feminists think only women are qualified to do, it's that feminists generally still view the world through a binary lens even when they claim to (and even genuinely do) support non-binary people. When you see the world through a oppressor/oppressed lens, everyone who doesn't fit neatly into the category of oppressor kind of clumps together in this awkward "other" category. You either fit into hegemonic masculinity or you fit into femininity, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 01:22 PM
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It doesn't though? Bro I literally don't understand what you're mad at lmao it's like you're reading a completely different article or something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 04:55 PM
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Wtf are you talking about donut
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 02:11 PM
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Read the methodology? It's open access. If you don't understand something specific I might be able to explain it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 01:02 PM
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The study doesn't claim that people only allow bodily autonomy for men, it claims that people invoke more moral purity arguments when trying to justify controlling women's bodies than they do when talking about men's bodies and that they do so because they harbor sexist beliefs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 09:53 AM
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It doesn't matter how many sources you have that repeat this talking point because they're all citing each other and none of them ever end up going anywhere if you actually make the effort to go down the rabbit hole. Everyone who repeats the "women control x% of consumer spending" talking point ALWAYS cites forbes magazine, and the article in question is ALWAYS this article. This article claims that "women drive 70-80% of all consumer purchasing decisions" (So where did McCormick get the 85% num…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/25 11:48 AM
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This is a manosphere talking point that is not actually supported by any data.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/25 08:28 AM
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Male flight is an excruciatingly stupid term to use because of how similar the term is to white flight lexically and how dissimilar what is currently happening is to white flight in practice. It makes it sound like the source of the current problem is that men are just insanely sexist to the point that they'll even fuck up their own future out of spite which is just another example of this narrative in which even when men are objectively the ones who are struggling it's women who are actually op…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/25 11:20 AM
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I've actually written out something before that's kind of similar to point 7 about empathizing with other perspectives, but I think the reason this doesn't hit as hard for men is because we are trained from birth to view the world through the lens of "us vs the universe". Men generally don't contemplate on the negatives of what it would be like for the entire world to be sexually attracted to us and even if we do, we just think it's upsides at best and manageable downsides at worst. I think that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 07:35 AM
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Never heard of him before. First half is pretty decent, it goes really downhill from the heading "Ableism" onwards in my opinion. I don't know what kind of audience he's writing this for, but I'm not a big fan of the tone of the article towards the end. Firstly I'm not a fan of this general idea: "One reason that men are so inescapably lonely is that they’re not putting in the work of getting vulnerable with other people, or offering others social support. This is not the fault of women. Nor is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 11:30 PM
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With all due respect, I didn't respond to OP, I responded to a commenter. I don't agree with a lot of the OP. I should mention though that the words empathy, kindness and caring suffer from the same kind of problem that I described earlier where they are actually far more ambiguous words than they initially seem to be. In some people's imaginations, the behavior of an empathetic, kind and caring man might look very different from the behavior of an empathetic, kind and caring woman. Just because…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/24 09:47 AM
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I am speaking mostly in an abstract sense because I think I might be one of the first people to actually make this specific observation. I'm not aware of anyone taking a clear stance either way upon being presented with this distinction mostly because I don't think anyone has actually ever been presented with the distinction. I can't give you a concrete example for that reason because I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but if you do want a specific name, I suspect that someone like Ric…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/24 09:23 AM
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I understand your worry but I implore you not to have a knee jerk reaction to the concept. In my mind, the reason this talking point is problematic is because "men lacking purpose" as a phrase actually means two different things to two different groups of people. The first, which is probably the one you find off-putting, is more of a tradcon take that stresses the importance of male duty in order to create a "good" society (whatever good means). The second is the lamentful realization that some …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/24 11:38 AM
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I don't get the connection between all of these things, it seems rambly to me. What reaction are you talking about for a start? You don't actually elaborate on that in the post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 12:47 AM
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That's an amazing dry humor joke about luddism and if you accidentally mixed those two words up like I think you did you should just pretend you didn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/24 12:39 PM
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FD signifier doesn't make content to reach people who aren't left wingers. In fact he doesn't even make content to reach left wingers, he just makes content to reach people who already agree with him. It might seem like he's trying to reach a broader audience on the surface but in reality his content is designed to preach to the choir and to make those who are already on his side nod in agreement. He's not the only one who does this and it's not a exclusively left wing phenomenon but this is how…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/24 09:40 AM
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The following is the abstract of the study: Moshary, S., Tuchman, A., & Vajravelu, N. (2023). Gender-Based Pricing in Consumer Packaged Goods: A Pink Tax?. Marketing Science 0(0), Articles in Advance, 1-14. https://doi.org/10.1287/mksc.2023.1452 Emphasis mine. "This paper investigates a controversial application of a textbook pricing practice: gender-based price segmentation, which has allegedly created a pink tax, whereby products targeted at women are more expensive than comparable products ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/24 03:47 PM
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So what do you do with that information then? I agree with you that academic feminism is quite a lot different from pop-feminism (as I call it) but I feel like the ratio of academic feminists to pop feminists is just skewing further and further in favor of pop feminism as time goes by. At a certain point your movement just becomes represented by its most dominant voices. Can you really blame regular people for just responding to what they're seeing and calling a spade a spade? You can say that p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/24 10:41 AM
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I agree that It's not about being loud and aggressive, but you have to keep in mind that Peterson has had emotional breakdowns on camera. I wouldn't say that his reasonable calm and collected demeanor is what has carried him so far. In my view, Peterson's whole appeal was that he was willing to stick his neck out and give his real opinion instead of toeing the party line. I think he became a nutjob in later years but at the start he was someone who went against the grain. People often forget he …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/24 08:59 AM
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Low effort rant post with 0 links to anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 03:29 PM
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I mean you're both right and wrong at the same time according to that source. Men as a whole went from +8 trump in 2020 to +13 trump in 2024. White men were +23 trump in 2020 and stayed at +23 trump in 2024. Latino men went from +23 biden in 2020 to +12 trump in 2024. /u/Song_of_Pain is incorrect in saying that men as a whole aren't going right but he's correct in saying that it depends on the subgroup.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 10:26 AM
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"Emotional vulnerability is when men cry during sad scenes in hollywood movies" - aaaaaaaaaaaaaand there goes 15 years worth of progress in getting men to feel more comfortable opening up about their emotional problems. I genuinely thought nothing could top the 2019 gillette ad and I have to say I am unpleasantly surprised. This is so fucking horrible to the point that if this was satire I would say it was bad satire because it's way too on the nose. If this is some elaborate ragebait trolling a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/24 10:15 AM
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Idk I don't really disagree with you on the p-hacking issue and every other problem you've laid out with the use of soft data, I just have a lot less faith than you do in people not using hard data in the exact same way where they just mangle the results until a conclusion rolls out that confirms what they want to hear. I don't think hard data is any more immune to that than soft data. Since you leaned into the talking point I'm going to go against my better judgment here and point out that 13/5…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 08:30 PM
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It has nothing to do with objectivity though, that's the idea that I object to. You either get subjectivity at the question design and interpretation level with soft data or you get subjectivity at the interpretation level with hard data. How do I figure out why people voted for what they voted for without relying on soft data or subjective interpretations and assumptions? You can't rely on a census for that kind of thing, you need surveys and interviews at that point. hard data aims towards obj…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 05:40 PM
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What do you think hard data is then? Sorry, I usually find that this complaint comes from stemlords who get angry when social science can't give clear chemistry-esque this+that=thing results to questions. Surveys and polls are only as good as the people making and administering them, but that's just as true for experiments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 08:48 AM
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Depends on your skin color and ethnicity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 01:38 PM
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Yeah the connection between socially awkward at 35 = potential murderer isn't great. Besides, a lot of serial killers are supposedly actually quite charming at first lmao. The awkward = dangerous assumption thing people do is definitely fucked. Probably why so many incels are neurodivergent. That said, he's completely right about the vicious cycle of not being around women and the radicalization of misogyny in male dominated spaces. When asked, he said that he'd say the same thing about women's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/24 01:21 PM
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What did you actually post? I can't get reveddit to do its job.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 10:55 PM
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I mean this guy wasn't exactly an upstanding citizen himself by any means either. I really don't like the death penalty but don't let people make you believe that the prosecution just pulled some random innocent black guy off the street to pin the case on. I can almost guarantee you that the vast majority of progressive outlets are going to run with that version of the story and that's just not very accurate. This guy had an extensive criminal record consisting of similar crimes and although som…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 01:08 AM
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The ancient world can't really be analyzed through our modern lens of how sexuality works. This tends to lead to anachronistic interpretations. Male homosexuality in the western world tends to be punished more harshly socially than female homosexuality. Most bisexual men die in the closet as a result. I can't prove it but I think male bisexuality is simply massively underreported, I don't think it is actually any rarer than female bisexuality. I think men are just more likely to feel like they h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 08:42 AM
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Racism is the line they won't cross because they're people who only publicly hate people who they're allowed to hate. They still believe all kinds of things in private, they're just too fake to come out and claim it. Being a misandrist is tolerated in their social circles and being a racist isn't. It really is that simple. Keep in mind these are people who make the majority of their decisions in life by evaluating whether or not something makes them look good, not whether or not it's right. See …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 03:29 PM
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Want Surinamers kunnen niet racistisch zijn tegen Turken en Marokkanen en vice versa, hou op man. Dat maakt niks uit voor hoe je over vluchtelingen denkt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 04:17 PM
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I'm also from the netherlands so you can't pull that card on me. I recognize that there are issues with how we deal with immigrants and refugees and I blame them mostly on incompetent right wing policies that we've had to deal with for the past 20 years. Which city or town do you actually live in by the way, just to evaluate how reasonable the things you're saying are?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 02:18 PM
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Lmao of course it's written by a guy as well. I swear to God the most brazen misandrists are always men themselves, fucking rancid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 09:00 AM
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Yes I've made this observation myself as well, although I do think it comes with the caveat that it changes a lot when women become mothers because they are then supposed to be the rocks of their household as well. That's more of a point about parenthood than it is about emotional labour between men and women romantically though. Purely romantically speaking I do think men are the ones who get the short end of the stick in terms of being expected to both just be willing to deal with women's shit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/24 09:39 PM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/673172/mental-health-treatment-counseling-past-year-us-men/ https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db380.htm As a warning though, women who talk like this usually don't actually care about men killing themselves, they just want to call men emotional cripples in a socially progressive way. There is probably going to be an inevitable "yes, but..." around every corner.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 10:15 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/wiki/rules/#wiki_circumcision Honestly I'm just as surprised as you are, this is really awful lmao. I didn't know it was this bad. It's honestly a miracle I didn't get banned from menslib for FGM circumcision analogies and religious criticism if this is how harsh they are on those kinds of comparisons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 10:07 AM
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This is a bad analogy because most people who support drugs legalization don't actually think that being a drug addict is a good thing, they just don't want people to be imprisoned for it. They're not saying that using drugs is okay, they're just saying that using state violence as a countermeasure isn't a good idea. This is completely different from the current discussion about masculinity in which we're told that traditional masculinity is bad and that egalitarianism is good. In order to make …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/24 03:08 PM
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I mean the statistics just don't agree with what you're saying, but I suppose people's personal experiences tend to override statistical trends in terms of perception in terms of perception.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:26 AM
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What media? Yeah, some progressive publications keep beating the dead horse that is the spook of alt-right masculinity coming for our boys, no I don't take them seriously. Is anything slightly right of far left automatically right wing to the media? Ehh, no? What is this supposed to mean lol? Again, what is "the media" to you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 07:30 AM
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But if men aren’t becoming more conservative, then why are they being left out of being called liberal? Can you rephrase? I don't understand what you're actually asking
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 07:17 AM
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This isn't actually happening. In most countries, the increasing political gender divide has to do with women becoming more left wing and progressive, not with men becoming more right wing and conservative. South Korea is an outlier in this regard, it's not reflective of the norm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 06:57 AM
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Self proclaimed progressive people who think the answer to sexism in society is even more sexism will never cease to amaze me with their ability to rationalize themselves out of any problem you can throw at them. I secretly wish that people who think like this end up having trans children. It's petty and it would probably be unfair on the child but it would make me laugh so hard if your designer baby told you that you could go fuck yourself the first opportunity they got.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 10:38 PM
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"Our study's findings must be considered within the context of its limitations. First, this research inherits the general limitations of the GBD, which are extensively described elsewhere. For instance, although the GBD strives to adjust for sources of bias inherent in self-reported data, such as recall bias and desirability bias, as well as non-sampling errors and differential diagnostic patterns, we recognise that the GBD methods are not able to entirely address and correct for all biases in r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 03:09 PM
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Because feminists often believe that men's advocacy groups will turn into fascist dens of patriarchy when men are left to their own devices. A lot of them don't really want to include us in their own movement but they also don't really trust us to fix our problems by ourselves which is why they often end up holding this wishy-washy position on the subject of men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/24 12:51 AM
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Yeah true actually about the incel subs getting banned but that's just reddit and the guy asked about mens spaces in general
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 06:09 PM
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You can make a point about disliking dating apps and AWDTSG groups without all the retarded evo psych red pill stuff on top
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 05:12 PM
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Men's spaces are the only spaces that really discuss the issues men are suffering from in depth so incels and red pillers tend to fall backwards into communities like this because they've finally found another group that also discusses issues similar to theirs and seems to agree with (some of) their ideas and observations. Ironically it is the exact same effect that I described in my first comment about the AWDTSG groups. You need really aggro moderation to stop it from happening or you need a s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 04:55 PM
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I agree 100% I'm just pushing back against the incel narrative
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 12:38 PM
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Lmao like hot people on dating apps are the only ones who are toxic and cheat? If you want to soapbox about incel shit and how dating apps are evil then just do that, it doesn't need to be included in our criticism of these AWDTSG groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 11:11 AM
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Because women in these kinds of groups are paranoid people and they are usually paranoid because they got hurt before. They became overly cautious as a maladaptive form of self defense. I bet a substantial amount of the people in these groups are also bots and people trying to leak shit to make fun of it. The idea that this proves the 80/20 rule is a reach. It says nothing about how regular women behave. I feel like we need a purge or cull on this sub tbh, I've been saying it for months.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 10:11 AM
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Take your meds bro
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 01:08 PM
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I have no real source for this but I think bi men are the LGBT group in which there is the biggest discrepancy between the total amount of people who are a certain sexuality and the subsequent amount of people who actively make their sexuality part of their social identity and try to form a group or social circle around it. I basically never see bi men doing this. As for the misandry part in queer spaces, that's just par for the course. Straight men are not going to see the vitriol that's writte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 04:30 AM
2

I mean, why wouldn't it be a good alternative? Maybe not to you, but for some people, especially those who, for whatever reason, can't or don't want to engage in casual sex, it might be, no? Maybe I'm blissfully unaware of what's going on in my own country but again, most people don't seem to see it as a good alternative. I think it's not a good alternative because it's not real. You can mimic the sex part but you can't mimic the being desired part and I think wanting to feel desired is a far bi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 10:10 AM
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Reason 1. The idea that the legalization of prostitution will improve gender relations because it will allow people to separate sex from love relies on the assumption that people (read: men) who are only interested in sex believe that prostitution is a good alternative for casual sex. I live in a country where prostitution is legalized and while it is true that we have a sex tourism industry as a result, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that we as a culture broadly do not see prost…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 12:43 AM
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I've been trying to warn you guys for months now that this subreddit was becoming infested with incel boohoo women shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/24 10:28 PM
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There are different flavors of men's rights advocates and most people who are willing to claim the MRA label and self identify as MRA tend to be tradcons. It's almost like a shibboleth. MRA as a label has a stigma to it and it's seen as right wing and tradcon so more left wing people tend to eschew the label in favor of calling themselves egalitarian or something like that. I don't think most people who care about men's issues are right wing but I do think that most people who are willing to com…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 11:33 AM
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It might be symmetical, it might not be. I'm honestly not too concerned about the statistics themselves because as far as I can tell the relevant people in the field have just been quibbling about each other's operationalisations and definitions of terms and concepts for the last 2 decades. Your goal shouldn't be to prove that there is gender symmetry in domestic violence, it should only be to prove that men are legitimate victims of it as well and that things like the Duluth model categorically…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/23 08:53 PM
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One such example could be a tiktok where a woman likened a straight man complaining about unwanted sexual advances from a gay man as “finally knowing what it’s like for women to be hit on by men”. Obviously, this is a false equivalence, as the chances of a sexually charged encounter between a gay man and a straight man being reciprocated is zero, and the chances of an encounter between a straight man and woman being reciprocated are at least non-zero. ? The chances of a straight man and a lesbia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 12:34 PM
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The amount of misogyny you see depends on where you go. Some places are better than others but by the nature of the topics we discuss there's always the risk of misogynistic attitudes popping up. You just have to have good moderation and even better regular contributors to call out bad behavior. I will say that I think it's very difficult to create a space or community where it doesn't feel like you either let some hatred and unproductive rants get through or you force people to walk on eggshell…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 10:24 AM
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It sounds very mgtow to me. It's not misogynistic by definition but it definitely sows the seeds for misogyny. You risk your community turning into a place where people start ranting about how much they don't need women. The female equivalent of this are political lesbians. Political lesbians constantly talk about how much they don't need men to the point that they're actually ironically still obsessed with them. Mgtow is basically the male equivalent to political lesbianism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 10:04 AM
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The solution to incels is to literally give them alternative avenues to gain self worth beyond sex. This is literally what i said. Yeah and we don't disagree on that. I disagree with letting them run rampant on this subreddit and cheering them on for saying stupid shit. I guess therapy doesnt work. Like c'mon this is just "humans are inherently selfish and without the government we'll all kill each other." But also I gotta point out the irony of this quote and our conversation. Bro I keep making…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 08:58 PM
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I'm angrier at the people in this subreddit for coddling this kind of incel shit than I am at the guy spouting it to be honest. You're just wrong about the empathy part. If you really think you can generalize and dehumanize the fuck out of people and then still expect them to be patient with you then you're just wrong and you don't know how real people actually act. Again, this is not a guy opening up to his friends in private, this is a guy saying dumb shit on a public platform. Social media is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 07:42 PM
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Yeah coping is bad when it is bad and it is good when it is good. Insightful. I'm not telling him to shut the fuck up and tough it out. I'm telling him to shut the fuck up and to stop looking for an echo chamber online. You're accusing me of saying so much shit that I've never said, I don't know who this boogeyman is that you're talking to. what if this hypothetical person has no one to talk to? What if they dont have the money to see a therapist? Then you're gonna get pushback when you say dumb…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 05:35 PM
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If someone is suffering from emotional and mental problems, the last thing they should be doing is looking for a hugbox online where they can put their issues on display and get their delusional beliefs validated by other delusional people. This guy obviously didn't "just like escorts", he was using escorts to cope. It's right there in the post my dude. But yeah, I'm obviously just clearly sexist against men. Fuck off lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 11:57 AM
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I have no idea bro it's super hit or miss. I got downvoted into oblivion for calling out an obvious incel rant last night. I don't feel like it used to be this way. Maybe it's an influx of new people because some other subreddit got banned or something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 08:52 AM
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It's only contradictory if you don't live in the real world. Is this sub getting brigaded or did you guys just go crazy? Wtf is going on lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/23 11:37 PM
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This post is ironically a prime example of how inceldom is a mindset rather than a physical condition. This whole post can be summed up by simply saying that women like it when men are physically attractive. Truly a shocking revelation. If the message you take from that is that physical attractiveness is the only thing that matters then you're probably a lost cause. All the other shit is mental illness. Maybe recognize the fact that you're a guy who spent nearly 6 figures on escorts before you t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/23 09:43 PM
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Yeah the framing of that is fucked lol. Almost reads a bit like those "200 dead, including 8 women and 2 children" headlines. "200 black people dead including 8 women and 2 children."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 11:50 AM
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Fine you don't need intention specifically to be abusive. Just causing harm is still a shitty definition though because it's an oversimplification. Regardless, do you agree that daddy issues can come from an absent father? If so, can you explain how an absent father is abusive? Do you think the average person would really describe overprotective parents as abusive or would they reserve that word for more serious cases? Do you think having a mom who isn't around enough because she has to work a l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 05:43 AM
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In the context of interpersonal relationships, abuse implies harm being done through some kind of coercion, force, manipulation, etc. It also usually implies a level of intention behind those actions. But go off though king, someone talking about child abuse and someone talking about alcohol abuse obviously mean the same thing when they say the word abuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 10:34 PM
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Biased reddit threads, the ultimate arbiter of truth
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 10:14 PM
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People becoming sheltered because they're overparented, having helicopter parents, having overprotective moms? Having a mom who's overworked and not around as much as she needs to be, which leads to people developing clingy personalities? None of that is really abusive, it's just unhealthy. Not every unhealthy relationship or family dynamic is abusive. Also, usually when people talk about daddy issues they're talking about daughters of absent fathers. How are you going to be abusive if you're ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 10:11 PM
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And it doesn't speak to what I've observed. Now what
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 10:07 PM
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Who says they don't? You guys are taking OP's embellished worst-faith interpretation of some random person's opinion on twitter and treating it like it's universal law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 10:02 PM
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People who have mommy issues try to empathize with the situation their mother was in. People who have daddy issues wish he was dead. It's a dumb tumblresque tweet. If anything it's saying that people with mommy issues come out of those households as more empathetic people than those with daddy issues. OP is the one who snuck the word "abusive" into the title. You guys are getting ragebaited right now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 09:41 PM
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You misread this completely or you're dumb OP.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 08:53 PM
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Yeah but that's not a Feminist problem that's a social problem. Purity testing is not exclusive to feminism, sure, but simply calling it a general social problem is letting people off the hook too easily. I'd say it's indicative of cultish tendencies. So, if mods are just banning people critical of feminism... are they really being true to feminism? Is heavy-handed moderation and censorship true to feminism in spirit? No. Is it true to feminism in practice? Yes, I'd say it's par for the course f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 04:39 PM
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Blatant sweeping dismissal of a vast topic such as feminism, critical race theory, BLM, disability studies is usually an indicator of right wing people. This is true but the blatant sweeping dismissal of any criticism of any of these vast topics is usually an indicator of progressive brainrot as well. I agree that sweeping dismissals of feminism aren't a good idea but the opposite is happening as well, a lot valid criticism of feminism is often dismissed out of hand as well. Most leftists agree …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/23 07:15 PM
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What did I include in the manosphere category that you disagree with? I don't see how the manosphere is about gender alone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 11:22 PM
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Too broad I think. Antifeminism is associated with manosphere groups as well but there's real issues you can have with feminism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 11:16 PM
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Tradcons, mgtow, red pill, incels, etc. My litmus test is basically to ask people why they dislike feminism. The kind of people who would answer that feminism is bad because it's trying to emasculate men are generally people who I would include under the manosphere umbrella.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 10:41 PM
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I feel like it's kind of the only way to capture all of the necessary groups under one term. What would you use instead? I don't really hear people refer to people who genuinely care about mens issues as being part of the manosphere
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 09:13 PM
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Idk what you mean. Did you go through my comment history without actually reading anything? Grade A donut if so lmao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 09:14 PM
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I've said this before on this subreddit like a month or two ago but subreddit overlap is a bad metric to go by. I suspect this has to do with the size of certain subreddits compared to others. I'm not trying to tell anyone what their opinion on menslib should be but if you want to judge menslib by their subreddit overlap then it's only fair you do the same thing to this subreddit. This subreddit has overlap with mensrights and a bunch of incel shit like kotakuinaction, mgtow, and pussypassdenied…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 04:04 PM
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To be fair if you check the overlap of this subreddit it doesn't look great either. Bunch of neckbeard and incel subs lmao. This sub actually has a crazy high overlap with menslib itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/23 09:57 PM
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Lmao yeah the idea that men are inconsiderate assholes even in death is a good trip lol. That subreddit is fucking crazy btw they're legitimately female incels imo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/23 07:31 PM
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While it is true that this happens (commonly called the DARVO stategy), I'd be really careful with this rhetoric because you can basically use it to justify why you should always treat an accuser as a guilty person instead. A good example of someone who got lost in the sauce using this exact idea is Lundy Bancroft who, in his book "Why does he do that" basically advocates for the idea that most men who report being victims of domestic violence are actually abusers themselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/23 07:31 PM
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So to summarize all of that you responded to a week old thread by talking about how you feel about shit while providing exactly zero academic sources yourself. You also think I have an agenda even though I criticize feminism all the time which you can figure out just by looking at my post history. Did you actually read the article I linked or do you not have access to it? I love how you try to tell me not to generalize when you're the one generalizing. I literally tried to provide more nuance to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 09:18 PM
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If this only took you 10 minutes and I already told you that I've been down this rabbit hole before then do you really think I haven't looked at these exact sources before? You're literally doing exactly what I said you were going to do: you're linking a blog that cites a citation of a citation and you'll never find the actual origin. Here's how all of these wild goose chases go: 1) A blog (like Girlpowermarketing) makes the 80% claim 2) Its source is the 2019 forbes article 3) The 2019 forbes a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 09:57 AM
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Like I said, men and women create society together. I don't think men have been oppressing women ever since the agrarian revolution either, I was merely disputing the inaccurate hunter-gatherer narrative that was presented to me. Notice how I said: "the system of society that feminists call patriarchy" rather than "the patriarchy". I have my own issues with the term, trust me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 08:29 PM
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It's a red pill claim that somehow found its way into public discourse. You won't get an actual source, he'll at best link you a blog that cites a citation of a citation. You will be sent on a wild goose chase if you actually try to look for the origin of the 80% claim. It's a rabbit hole I've looked into before and I can't find the actual origin of the claim for the life of me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 03:13 PM
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Yes, i'll post it later going out for lunch rn Edit: added source to original comment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 09:03 AM
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What you're saying about mammoths and hunters here is actually largely incorrect. Most anthropologists tend to agree that the system of society that feminists call patriarchy appeared when humans switched from a nomadic hunter gatherer society to an agrarian society. Hunter gatherer societies were probably more egalitarian in how they were set up. The idea that there were strict gender roles in these communities in which women were gatherers and men were hunters also doesn't stand up to scrutiny…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 08:08 AM
1

Yeah I know what a tankie is, I'm asking what a "TikTok neotankie" is
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 11:24 PM
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She was probably born in 2005 and is stuck in the TikTok neotankie pipeline This sounds oddly specific lmao wtf is a TikTok neotankie
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 08:24 PM
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Idk what's going on behind the scenes but this is lwma losing one of its most valuable contributors. Kinda tragic tbh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/23 04:53 PM
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Could be. Could also be that whenever an issue becomes a hotly debated topic in society, both destiny and this subreddit start talking about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 10:47 AM
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It is very likely that custody/family court cases are subject to survivorship bias. This means that the fact that men tend to win in court is deceiving. It's true, but it only looks at cases in which men show up to court to fight. It is reasonable to assume that men with stronger cases are more likely to take it to court. What you really have to do is ask men if they have custody and if they want to have custody and why they didn't fight for it in court if they did want it but didn't pursue lega…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/23 11:27 PM
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You should provide sources when you make these kinds of claims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/23 01:17 PM
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It seems to me the that the ideal role left-wing politics envisions for straight white men today is shutting up, listening to what everyone else has to say, and then regurgitating what others said on command regardless of what just came out of their mouths. To be somewhat over dramatic, it makes me feel like an almost second class citizen being denied the right to participate in politics because I don't have the right background. To be perfectly clear, I understand why people aren't interested i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 11:41 AM
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I haven't seen this myself but it's possible, it all depends on the material that the ai was trained on. Algorithms don't take ethics into consideration, it's foolish to pretend otherwise no matter how convincing an AI's writing might seem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/23 07:47 PM
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I don't think you can cleanly split human sexuality and attraction up into "biological features" and "socialized performance." Also idk what this means You can explain this by just saying "A man has everything but love, and a women has all the love to select but poverty behind her." And some women wanna act upon this despite their wealth, because of socialization and social capital (disney princess garbage) more than biological determination and hormones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/23 07:08 PM
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I don't fully agree with you but I'm also disappointed in the level of support that's been shown for biological determinism and fatalism in this thread.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/23 06:24 PM
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Lmao of all the things you could criticize destiny for when it comes to his past, being too woke is a new one. This whole comment is bitchmade tbh, it doesn't actually say anything while pretending to explain everything. And Destiny spends far more time badmouthing other figures than actually addressing what it is about those messages that draws men. The salient points that those figures, for all their other faults, get correct enough to draw support - and that Destiny himself inevitably gets wr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/23 12:39 AM
1

This is such a strawman lmao. When someone pushes back on the trans rapist narrative, do you think they're saying there are literally 0 trans rapists or are they saying we shouldn't demonize an entire group and treat them like an evil collective?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/23 12:55 PM
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That's not a definition it's just a rant presented as if it's a profound insight
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/23 11:40 PM
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You use the abbreviation MRWF like I'm supposed to know what it means already. Can you define this term? This post jumps between points way too quickly I think. This goes from a rant about nice guys and relationships into an apparently self evident analogy to MRWF(?) That I'm not really understanding.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/23 09:09 AM
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Sounds like you come from a tough place. Your frustrations are understandable but keep in mind you shouldn't let the pendulum swing too far in the other direction. It sounds like growing up you've been dealing with the thesis that women are superior to men. The antithesis to that is that men are superior to women. Hopefully you can come to the synthesis that both are necessary and neither one is necessarily better than the other. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have casual sex, but fake s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 02:34 PM
1

Actually kinda cute how you're smug about not understanding sarcasm lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/23 11:18 PM
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I'm not afraid of redditors lmao, you just got downvoted big man, nobody's censoring your valuable insights yet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 11:43 PM
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It's not about a fear of feminists, it's about not letting this subreddit turn into a refuge for misogynists. Just like feminism attracts misandrists from time to time, men's rights advocacy unfortunately attracts misogynists as well. If you don't nip that in the bud early then it can consume your platform or organization.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 12:02 AM
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Yeah it's dumb, if you give him a charitable interpretation I don't think he means it like that, but it often feels like it's almost impossible to get progressive people to talk about women's issues without having them turn it into a rant about how easy men have it. Although I also wouldn't give a shit about my dick and balls being on the internet, it's clear plenty of guys do because there wouldn't be a market for blackmailing men with their own nudes if none of them cared. Describing that scen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/23 11:22 PM
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My most charitable interpretation of that statistic is that some respondents probably interpreted that as "equal = the same" and answered with "we're not equal, we're different, but we're both important." Or maybe 20% of women truly believed they were superior to men and vice versa for 14% of men, who knows.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/23 09:53 PM
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Eerily similar to the narcissist's prayer: "That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/23 10:14 AM
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Thanks. Just for the record I wasn't asking for a source because I didn't believe you, just genuine curiosity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/23 10:57 AM
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Connell is considered the leading expert for her 1995 book Masculinities which has over 24,000 citations. In that book she also very seriously advocates for mass castration as the ideal policy goal, says men will always work against women until that happens because all masculinity is evil and defined by hating women, says feminists can exploit divisions between men - including race and class - to stop men organising. And THAT’S the seminal feminist text on understanding masculinity and men. Do y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 07:49 PM
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No, this isn't true in general and it definitely isn't true universally on some biological level or something. If you move in certain social circles you will run into more materialistic and shallow women, but the average woman is not a crazy hypergamous harpy What is true Is that it's become easier for people of both genders who feel frustrated about dating, sex and social norms to gather in online communities where they can feed and reinforce each others' negative worldviews and beliefs. Don't …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/23 11:02 PM
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Urban sprawl and infrastructure design are definitely important parts of the social atomization that plagues modern society but I personally think the damage done by 24 hour news cycles designed to anger people and social media algorithms designed for viewer retention are both more important and cheaper to tackle than infrastructure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/23 07:07 AM
1

We don't need to fearmonger about feminists being the devil incarnate to talk about men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:58 PM
1

Just because you disagree with them doesn't mean you should put words in their mouth. I dislike the term patriarchy but even I know that's not what most of them mean when they use the term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:50 PM
1

What do you think feminists mean by the patriarchy if not a structural problem?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:44 PM
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No?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:27 PM
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I thought so too but their post history doesn't look like a troll to me, just a terminally online person with obvious issues, although that's a tautology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 06:00 PM
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Taking men's struggles and insecurities and calling it toxic masculinity and fragility is just a woke way of telling men to "man up", which is kinda ironic when you think about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/22 03:09 PM
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Can you post a link to that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/22 09:38 AM
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Where have you seen this specifically? I don't recognize this behavior outside of general narcissism, but that's not gendered as far as I know. Progressive people do have a tendency to ascribe really outlandish experiences, worldviews, behaviors and motivations to men though, and the things they say tend not to resonate with men too much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/22 11:18 PM
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Just skimming without fully diving into the article, towards the end of the paper the authors mention the limitations of the study themselves, was anything about that unclear? In general btw, the pay gap isn't necessarily an outdated concept in the academic world. The only problem is that what the pay gap is in academic terms and what it is in layman/pop-feminist terms are very different things. The pop-feminist version of the pay gap argument is ridiculous and has been debunked countless times,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/22 02:23 PM
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That is pretty much what I said, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 02:30 PM
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Lmao bro I don't understand that counterargument. I don't know the YouTuber or the video you're talking about but I've seen that counterargument so many times as well. Their best counterargument is literally: "Yes it's a blatant inequality, but that probably won't affect you personally... Hopefully" How the fuck is that good enough? How do you actually feel strongly enough about the topic to make a video about it, but that's the best you managed to come up with?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 10:58 AM
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All you have to do is say Emmett Till. You have to keep in mind that when feminists try to ridicule the idea of false allegations being a thing, what they are trying to ridicule is not a man genuinely being falsely accused and not being able to do anything about it because the system is too powerful. What they're actually doing is engaging in schadenfreude as an imaginary powerful wealthy evil straight white man gets upset when he finally gets his comeuppance. That's what they hear when you say …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 10:24 AM
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Farrell actually talks about this in "Why Men Are The Way They Are". He says women are likely to be disappointed chasing successful men because the qualities it takes to be successful in the workplace are often at odds with the qualities it takes to be successful in love.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 08:42 AM
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Make sure you post that in this subreddit, I could write a novel about this topic lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 08:26 AM
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Geeks only seem like anti-SJWs and reactionaries because progressives keep trying to force their bullshit down their throats. In reality they just say fuck you to anyone and everyone who thinks they can come in to their space and start ordering people around, which is honestly pretty understandable. The same exact thing happens when conservatives try to tell them what to do as well, it's just that conservatives usually try to ban shit if they dislike it instead of telling you how to write it dif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/22 08:56 PM
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You always have to keep in mind that when leftie people are talking about "men", what they actually mean is "cartoonishly evil rich straight white men" which leads to these kinds of situations. For a group of people that's so concerned with intersectionality, their analysis when it comes to men and their issues is often pretty one dimensional.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 05:39 PM
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Well the reason bad actors employ kafkatraps is, unfortunately, because they work. If you're not familiar with the rhetorical device, people's first instinct when false accusations are levied against them is to defend themselves. Unfortunately, that plays right into the rhetorical device. The solution is to call the rhetorical device out for what it is and hope the crowd of bystanders sees its flaws. You can not "win" against a kafkatrap because it isn't defeatable to begin with. The whole point…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 12:54 PM
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Fragile masculinity is a quintessential textbook example of a kafkatrap. The only way to counter a kafkatrap is to call it out and disengage. If you get hit with the fragile masculinity angle the only winning move is not to play.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 12:02 PM
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It's a study on a bunch of African countries. Some researchers still think mutilating boys is a good alternative to condoms and running water in those places.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 07:14 AM
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"The majority of the studies concur on the importance of involving women in VMMC uptake as they have the power to negotiate with their male partners through communication and can persuade men to be circumcised, making it a joint decision." - Holy shit lol, this sentence is actually evil. "Negotiate, communicate, persuade, joint decision." Thats so manipulative, those words are written as if they're synonyms. Imagine asking: "How do I convince my girlfriend to get a boob job?" and then trying to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 06:56 AM
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We aren't forced to play that game though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 05:27 AM
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I would also add that it's a feminist issue when women have issues with dating, so I don't see why the reverse can't be true. I reject this. I think part of what makes feminism so goofy nowadays is that it doesn't fight for women's rights anymore, it now fights to change cultural attitudes that they think negatively affect women and they frame this as fighting for women's rights. I don't want to do the gender inverted but essentially same thing. I don't think grievance movements are great at cre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 08:47 PM
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All of those quoted comments are from people who don't know anything about the MRM, the differences between the groups and why any of these people believe what they believe. "They want women to be their sex slaves" is a caricature at best. Men's dating issues and men's rights are not the same movement, they shouldn't be conflated. They are often conflated because mainstream society doesn't like talking about men's dating issues or men's rights leading to people who want to talk about either to c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 03:01 PM
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This is not true, Terfs tend to be way deeper down the rabbit hole than your average liberal feminist. My problem with the average liberal feminist is usually just their ignorance of the movement that they claim to be a part of, Terfs by comparison are usually at the forefront of things like the kill all men slogan. I think I can talk to the average liberal feminist, point out the inconsistencies, and at least sow the seeds of doubt in their minds, Terfs will just double down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 06:47 AM
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Men still kill themselves at higher rates in countries without legal firearms.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:22 PM
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Confront him on it and tell him he sounds like a woman trying to rationalize cutting into her daughter's clitoris because it happened to her as well and she's fine with it. Obviously requires him to already believe FGM is a bad practice in the first place, and you probably need to be able to hold strong against an hour of "that's different because rationalization" arguments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 04:54 PM
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Some people from this subreddit were going to fucking war in that original post lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 09:17 PM
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Women almost universally hate boring yes-men and aren't sexually attracted to them. Feminism asks men to be boring yes-men. Let there be light. I don't believe the phenomenon of girls getting with assholes really exists because women are attracted to assholes. I think girls get with assholes because being an asshole and being a boring yes-man are mutually exclusive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 08:58 AM
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This is exactly why people think poly is so goofy lmfao. What's next bro straight people aren't really straight? They've just been indoctrinated to believe they are?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 11:59 PM
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If people wanna do some cuck shit that's up to them, but if you're a woman and you're expecting your man to be cool with this, you're in for a rude awakening. If you actually think this should be a discussion in every relationship then you should probably be aware of the fact that most men who respect themselves will leave you on the spot if you have the nerve to suggest this idea to them. Look I really wish I was more supportive of poly shit and all that but I'm not because not only do I person…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 06:32 PM
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If you truly believe that monogamy isn't currently the norm you're delusional. Most men don't want their partners to get railed by other dudes. That has nothing to do with societal prescriptions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 03:42 PM
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OP this title not it bro
/r/MensRights16/08/22 10:41 PM
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Buncha online people lmao most of these people have absolutely nothing to do with men's rights or feminism. The names in his "timeline" that I recognize are clout gurus and all the lefties he mentioned are infotainment people who talk about american politics on twitch with absolutely 0 credentials lmao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/22 06:04 PM
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Yeah fuck all that, tradcons are more than happy to gang up on anybody talking about men's issues in ways they disapprove of, and tradcons absolutely control their side of the press. The media and its various biases is 100% a shitshow but it isn't a leftist bulwark like right wingers like to pretend it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 11:05 PM
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Homophobes will latch onto anything, but that shouldn't be our primary concern. The fact of the matter is that gay and bisexual men are MASSIVELY overrepresented in the statistics, and although that might be partly because of the fact that they currently get tested more often, it is still incredibly alarming and cause for specific concern among gay and bisexual men. Long story is that the experts don't actually know yet, but they have a reasonable suspicion. "Sexual activity, largely among gay o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/22 08:13 PM
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Thanks
/r/MensRights27/07/22 11:21 AM
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Where did you find that quote from the Istanbul convention? Afaik the Istanbul convention is about domestic violence, not gender quotas in business and politics
/r/MensRights27/07/22 08:02 AM
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So is the problem in that situation the usage of the phrase "boys will be boys" or does the problem in that situation sound like: "holy shit insane family call CPS"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/22 08:52 AM
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If you really think there is no equality for men to get then you're actually dumb as fuck and even your feminist friends would tell you that you're wrong. You got one thing right though, I am terrified of goofballs like you because you clearly have no fucking clue as to what equality actually means yet you still talk about the term like you own it.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 09:16 AM
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Sunvisor of equality lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/22 07:46 AM
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What I'm not sure about is, do women share these things because of a lack of respect for the man, or is it because they genuinely think he wouldn't mind? How many of them would want to be known as the town bicycle you think?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 02:31 PM
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They're just doing that because they're trying to get out of the firing line themselves. Upper middle class white women played a really dangerous game complaining about oppressive societal structures and institutions because they benefitted from a lot of them throughout the years. It's hilarious to me how they try to palm the blame off to poor working class white dudes who had nothing to do with any of this stuff. They're just desperately cramming everything bad with the world into their patriar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/22 06:00 AM
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Now you're getting delusional homie, we absolutely have our own privileges and advantages in how we're treated in certain situations. Don't let the fact that men's issues are routinely ignored talk you into adopting a victim complex mentality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 07:08 AM
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Patrice O'Neal bit about this that I enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKJ2z7mecQ
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/20 07:33 PM
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