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I've lived among very good Christians all my life. You can choose to believe what you want about the Bible. Take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:08 AM
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I knew you were going here... Sir, I'm a woman not a preacher. If you want to debate religion, I'll have to find a biblical man around here and then we would have to find the correct venue as to not disrupt the other activities on Purple Pill. Have a good day 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:48 PM
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Yes, I think men who fear and respect God are ideal, like in the Bible. If that's what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:54 PM
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Uh, as long as he does it right? Does he look like a frosted cupcake? Does he know the difference between eyeliner and lip liner? Does he accidentally switch the two? Then, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:26 PM
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Do youself a favor and get a therapist first. But, avoid the ones that use finger puppets and positive affirmations. P.S. if you don’t have coverage, can't afford it, or can't drive yourself there, definitely don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:26 AM
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I believe in free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:11 AM
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Because they never go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:52 PM
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Yes, it does 😁 And, I love living a simple life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:42 PM
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Men: Don't follow the advice of men who aren't respected in their community, even if it's just their own neighborhood. Women: Set your own goals and make sure you can take care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:34 PM
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I listen to Bible tapes. It has improved my life completely and kept lots of men at bay. Works like garlic to vampires. Life couldn't be any better!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:05 PM
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I'm throwing it out there, because you have been left with only the shambles of traditional relationships. They never give you the full picture of traditional relationships, and somehow they really twisted the story to include women being responsible for traditional roles outside of marriage! Don't listen. In traditional countries, women stay far away from loose men, care about their family and education. They're not dividing time to go to a boyfriend's house to do his dishes and give him a pep …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:47 PM
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Yes, you know how traditional women protect themselves from highway robbery? When outside of marriage, giving absolutely 0% care to men's concerns. Any type of labor, emotional, entertainment, sexual, or financial is a complete risk/loss in the context of civil living situations and relationships. Completely wasted the moment that relationship evaporates, including the distractions of fights, drama over cheating, social media, gossip, therapy, doctor's visits, everything. You can save money by b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:56 PM
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Life is short. Both parents should remain tied to a child to ensure it has a good opportunity to survive a cesspool of crime and other dangers in the modern world, until the child reaches adult age and then can takeover caring for itself. There are extreme situations that affect both genders, like assault or fraud, but outside extremes, adults are completely responsible for the liability and chaos that comes along with having sex outside of a legally binding contract (marriage). Have you ever no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:07 PM
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Double sadness
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 12:48 AM
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Sadly, a lot of men will follow in this guy's footsteps. Glad to see important information about the topic being shared.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:40 PM
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I wasn't triggered, I responded exactly the way I should have. I made that comment days ago. Please stop tying to stir the pot because you want to cause a scene just like the other guy did. Yes, he needs a therapist if the idea of defending his loved ones makes him stressed, and so do you that you'll try to defend a position like that online. I'm done responding to thread because it's not helpful. Anyone else who has issues with the most basic opinion I have of family will get blocked. Take care…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:30 PM
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The results will speak for themselves. Redpills are no heroes. You have not come to save the day. Take care with your movement!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:55 PM
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Redpill is a toxic sludge of ideas from cult gurus who justify prostitution, hostility, and abuse of women, making them solely responsible for years of dysfunctional behavior in the west. Young boys now ask why they can't play hard and hit girls like they can with other boys. That's the gift of redpill. I've seen it with my own eyes. I'm 100% against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:35 PM
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Never watched any of his material until today. I've heard of him, but never wanted to seek out redpill info. I learned enough from the redpills I've already met. Everyone will die. Both genders. In that we have true equality. But, think about the legacy you'll leave behind. In my opinion about KS, we'll be cleaning up the mess caused by this man (and ones like him) for years to come!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:27 PM
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Sure, no one wants to be loved for money. But, no one is winning here, either. People ditch their partners on their deathbed just because they get bored. They may give them a STD as a goodbye gift. Relationships deserve respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:52 PM
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I'm not going to troll around with you. I respect the way a majority of traditional families work. You don't. It's not buying, it's proving you have the capacity to feed mouths, not just pump and dump. Women owe you nothing, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:37 PM
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No, I mean like proving you have assets and can support a wife and family. Like gold, a home, and land. Not flying by the seat of your pants and demanding to be treated like a king. Having women fuss over you, when they really should be working at school and their careers. You can call it "buying her" - marriage is a life commitment, not a pump and dump for your online dating and hookups. I know it's hard to understand, but try.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:24 PM
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There are modern, poor American families that sell their own kids to porn/sex trade. That's not how the majority works, though (in traditional groups). A lot of happy marriages!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:47 PM
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Congratulations! ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:24 PM
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Who is getting her brains blown out? Not me : ) Women should still stop feeding the bears. You guys have become entitled monsters. If you have no incentives, you shouldn't get rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:24 PM
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Divorce was permissible for male infidelity, too. It's an attractive idea because modern dating has become so awful. It doesn't advertise well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:13 PM
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I don't think women should date/sleep with any of you. They should go old school, make you court her parents, offer marriage upfront, bring camels, gold bracelets, and bananas, and even then maybe not if they don't like you. Her brothers can chase you down in the streets if you don't act right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:09 PM
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Well, you're super irritated by something. And, those poor female developers seem to really annoy you. Maybe you're just more irritated because you have to be nicer at work than you want to be? Just be a jerk, if you want. That's what I do : )
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:38 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:19 PM
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STEM guys like you are cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:52 PM
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I hope your QA manager is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:43 PM
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Just that women shouldn't give you props, at all, because you carried the coffee or got doughnuts. Or, whatever else you did to "help out." It's just what crossed my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:23 PM
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In a traditional sphere, where there are distributions of duties between genders, and even gender roles, I don't have any issues with men taking over certain tasks and taking over certain responsibilities. I have more issues outside a traditional sphere, where men expect emotional labor outside of marriage, expect kickbacks for being nice, and really live completely deranged lifestyles and think because they opened a door or like, contributed more on a task, they're like instantly entitled or be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:14 PM
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It's possible, but I try to avoid over simplifying or saying both genders suffer equal amounts. That argument is used a lot to blanket over some serious abuse of women, for instance, this Redpill stuff... I do think men suffer, but they're also the biggest perpetrators of crime and the historical "preffered gender." Yesterday, a Jewish man said that Redpill is the 1st world's privileged white man's issue (on another Reddit discussion board). I agree 100%. America has really lost the plot on what…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 07:15 PM
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Men are not being physically forced to do anything in America. Men are free to roam, do drugs, have sex, get married or not, drink alcohol, get divorced, go to jail, get rich or poor, etc. It's deceptive to say he is being forced. Maybe he has felt pressured to "be healthy and not do coke" but tbh, I don't lose sleep over that kind of suffering. I do feel bad for people who have real suffering, though. Just to be clear. And, I'm touchy, because I could tell about 5 comments ago, this topic will …
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 12:24 PM
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Yes, of course, I value that in women. In my Hispanic background and culture, family was the CORE of life. It was social and protective of the core of family and friends. That's what I know and what I learned was normal. I value traits of nurturing, pro-social behavior, and look for signs of narcissism in both genders, because it's prevalent. The women who fulfilled that role are/were revered in my family. If that does not apply to you, if family roles seem repulsive/unnecessary for both genders…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 11:42 AM
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The POINT, which many idealists tend to miss, is that other people's level of understanding and comfort matters. You will never force others to feel/see how you want, because they have different values and backgrounds. Go to Africa, the Middle East, and even India, and argue with 99.9% of a population that on greater levels understand family. I will not debate how I feel. It's absurd to compare western men's freedom with that of women. To date, men have never been physically forced to be fathers…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 11:33 AM
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Get a therapist. It's illogical to go around and get upset by how other people may see you. You're free to protect or not protect. You can teach yourself to be indifferent to the needs of others just so you can be more comfortable. What you cannot do is force people to want to be around you. They're also free to live how they want.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 03:56 AM
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I don't give a damn. I didn't ask for your opinion in the men's group.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 03:48 AM
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That's just my instinct. It's a response not an opinion.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 03:03 AM
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I love men who are naturally honest and instinctually protective of the ones they love - whether it's their brothers and sisters, mother, partner, or friends. Seeing that instinct to protect is a really beautiful thing. When that quality is missing, it's noticeable. I grew up with a father who wanted to be a husband and a father. There was no other place he wanted to be - it wasn't fake or forced. He was never irritated to be at home, to be around my mom, or to spend time with his kids. It was n…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 01:28 AM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:18 PM
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A guy who genuinely enjoys a relationship or friendship with a woman, sees her as a person of value, not as a sexual toy or potential enemy. It's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:06 PM
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Because most of them are unmarried, angry bachelors who refuse any responsibility towards a wife, marriage, or kids. They want the least amount of responsibility and the most pleasure & enjoyment for themselves. They're more attracted to the idea of being served by a woman than giving anything back or to a woman. That's disgusting to them. It's really all about them. So, yeah. Western women are too much "high maintenance" and the men aren't into maintenance/responsibility anymore. Just my opinio…
/r/ExRedPill30/04/22 09:40 PM
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you know there’s a whole market for women who get older and can’t have babies normally? egg freezing… it’s disingenuous to pretend nothing is being done for women bodily functions Sure. You can freeze our eggs to ensure there will be more youthful individuals born into the world. But, there are still no cures for lip lines and crows feet! All the research money and cutting-edge science went to developing a rapid cure for ED. They have a cheap cure. Obviously, they drained the research money dry …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:15 AM
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You proved my point. There is no greater value/loss than a non sexually functioning male reproductive organ.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:33 AM
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Unfortunately, they don't have any larger plans. It's all just nihilistic. Eventually, they might end up addicted to their VR porn/robots at home and need some kind of medical intervention. Just stand back and watch, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:50 AM
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Agree 100%. They're doped up on "porn caviar" and telling older women to eat the scraps on the floor. It's a sick society. Of course, if you're conditioned to get aroused by a constant chain of perfect young women and feel entitled to it constantly, that will affect your ability to bond, feel attracted to, and respect older women. It's completely lost on a porn-sick generation. They only want youth and once they eat that up, the youth are tossed to the side, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:34 AM
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I disagree. When men develop erectile dysfunction the whole world stops and cries for them. Medications are developed and released. Billions of dollars are spent to research and fix their ED. What happens when a woman gets saggy boobs, low libido, wrinkles, osteoporosis, etc.? She's told to walk it off. If she does anything about it and fixes herself, she's considered self-indulgent and hungry for male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:18 AM
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I'm removing it because you used the word "thus" AND you clearly clarified the policy and method of resolution. Good day, sir or bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:45 PM
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How the tables have turned...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:36 AM
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Let FDS have the stage for a while. Let the old hierarchy get upset like the spoiled brats they are that corroded from the inside out - by too many scandals, too much corruption, and too much abuse of power. It's their own collective fault. They left no better alternatives but feminazis and FDS. That's how low they went. So, let them be miffed. Even cockroaches look better than misogynists and red pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:29 AM
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In the past, I've found men to be the big source of "sexual" problems. When the "thrill" was gone, the relationship was basically over for the next best thing (in their eyes). They were addicts/alcoholic types, though. My fault on overlooking it, but I think under different circumstances with a healthy guy, there would've been no reason why my sex drive would not match my partner, no reason why we couldn't agree, or be content. And, yes, the likelihood of a healthy, happy guy staying faithful is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:55 PM
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It's always good to meet under the most strict and formal situations nowadays. You never know what's going to happen. Better to stay prepared.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:44 AM
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Church, the grocery store, or in front of the police department.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:37 AM
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You don't need to change how you feel about this. It's ok for you to want monogamy from your girlfriend. The big problem is you do not recognize or respect your own feelings. Are you really willing to abandon yourself for the sake of a girl who is sexual/romantic with other people? You're in a huge state of denial. Not sure why. You're clearly bothered by your girlfriend kissing others in front of you and you're replaying it. Now you want to reprogram yourself so you can be cool when she's sexua…
/r/ExRedPill11/04/22 10:04 AM
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If you've spent years acknowledging, supporting, or otherwise caring for male friends/males versus caring for a woman, don't you think there could theoretically be a little gay blindspot? I've seen redpills get flat out giddy around their male friends like it's a magical transformation. I've also seen males jealous when their male friends go home to their wives and family. Then, everything is grey again, because the worst thing that ever happened to men is simply - women. Oh yeah, and marriage, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:18 AM
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Agreed. Weak willed, lazy, and bullies/gaming of women. Women should stay keen to it, because a partner can be secretly resenting you, actually wanting to punch you, or desiring to spend his life with his male buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:07 AM
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I had a red pill guy blatantly tell me he married his wife because that's what he was supposed to do, but didn't love her. cringe I think these men need a full confrontation or direct intervention to come out, because as far as they're concerned, it's all a woman's fault. What a terrible place to be where you feel pressured or otherwise compelled to have sex with someone you despise or hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:54 AM
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Haha. Thanks. It's odd to see an otherwise rigid, cold, and cruel redpill get all soft around his bromances. Maybe they have questioned it and repressed it, leading to them getting involved in cults and other radical groups? I'm sure this has been implied before. But, it has made me a little more paranoid, thinking a much higher majority of men (especially redpill) may be covertly homo and not capable of being "in love" with a woman... all the while blaming us for it! Talk about superior gasligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:42 AM
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Yeah... I've noticed this, too. They really do glorify themselves, like in a homosexual way. They prefer the company of men, but like you said, feel entitled to female sex organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:30 AM
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Yeah, a combination of all the previous answers. I would just finish with how the genders need each other to collaborate, love, live, and reason together... Otherwise, you get half-baked, radical, and dangerous cults like redpill. Learned to be more careful out there and stay close to a "personal pack" - need to always defend against the wolves, so to speak!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:54 AM
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No. I just think once they completely hack the mind's pleasure and reward centers more than they already have, that will lead to dramatic changes to humanity. Reference the current studies of addiction and its effects on family and relationships. I base my opinion on those current influences and porn trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:11 PM
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When porn advances far beyond the pleasure and excitement that a wife or girlfriend can provide, three things will happen: Reproduction rates will fall Relationships will become obsolete Mass extinction without scientific intervention
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:54 PM
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This is a great point, as well as other sexual issues men develop with age, such as lower libido, erectile dysfunction, high blood pressure, fatigue, less endurance. Younger women will suffer the sexual effects of being with older men, especially in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:39 PM
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I disagree. This theory is based on "pimp ethics" and is too morally shallow to apply to (or sustain) society as a whole. It doesn't address the outcomes of applying pimp ethics to young women who will then become mothers, and age to become elderly women with children. Older women will always be abandoned with children, as men continue to attempt to impregnate younger women with the excuse that because they have the financial means, throwing $100, shopping, or a dinner to a woman relieves a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:50 PM
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Just a general rule of thumb for either gender - it's not the best time to have a relationship during a mental health crisis. People should bring their best to the table, be healthy, and not drag their mental health baggage everywhere. If you're really struggling, get into treatment, get stable, then start a relationship where another person can rely on you... or be prepared to have a reliable plan to deal with health problems. You have the right to distance yourself and seek other opportunities…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/22 10:14 PM
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I haven't noticed that, at all. I have attention from old and younger men. If there's a "wall" it's a big religious and cultural wall that I've put up, because I can't be happy with someone who doesn't share the same beliefs and values. Otherwise, I'm 100000% sure I could date 24/7. And, I'm not in my 20s.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/22 01:44 AM
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Haha
/r/ExRedPill22/03/22 01:34 AM
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I can report that people at retirement centers still dress up, have martinis at happy hour, meet at each other's apartments for "night caps." They ride the casino bus every Thursday, at the center near you. Don't believe it? Don't ask Kevin Samuel or whatever the hoe hustler's name is (he's lying to you). Open your mind to accept that old people still "hookup" and have sex. Reference: Senior citizens weigh in on dating later in life https://youtu.be/5H7j2YytqhM
/r/ExRedPill22/03/22 12:31 AM
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This is an odd question, because lots of women end up widowed and living alone (because they don't want to remarry)... along with women who divorce, and others who are single "past the wall." They're maintaining households and doing stuff, like traveling, or working, volunteering, etc. Women don't just shrivel up and die when they're required to survive on their own. Some do very well, others struggle, most I would bet stay involved in activities (even if they lack kids), they probably have exte…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 11:11 PM
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The way RP frames women isn't all that different from the treatment sex workers receive from their pimps. Stockholm syndrome will lead many women in vulnerable positions to defend their pimps and downplay the financial abuse and manipulation they're facing as a way to feel better about their position. This was the similarity I noticed between redpill ideology and pimp tactics. The post wasn't motivated by giving credit/snaps to pimps. The post is a simple comparison between them, which after som…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 01:06 PM
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I actually never said what you said I said... hope that doesn't confuse you more. You're offended by the comparison, but this is MY opinion based on comparing redpill strategies to how pimps act in operation. Redpill/manosphere has recently made it to the secret service watch list of potential terrorist groups in the US, so I'd say they're a good comparison.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 03:59 AM
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Redpill ideology does not promote traditional values or marriage. In fact, it dissuaded a large group of men to fear marriage and sexually exploit women, lots of women, in fact, game women. From redpill content, the similarity is very clear between groups.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 03:43 AM
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I hope you didn't think I'm defending pimps. I'm just comparing the redpill ideology with ho hustlers/prostitute mindset because they are similar.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 03:41 AM
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Submission post: Here's the interview: https://youtu.be/jcJHrp5eNRI
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 03:15 AM
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There's a lot wrong when it's based on an aversion, hate, or misogyny.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 02:26 AM
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Good point
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 02:24 AM
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Rigid, absolutist, emotionally flat/stunted, homosocial, aggressive, and sexually feral (lacking moral code).
/r/ExRedPill20/03/22 03:45 PM
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Yes, this user profile: u/5MinuteMentalFitness
/r/ExRedPill20/03/22 03:35 PM
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Glad to see professional interest in this rampant and dangerous social issue. There are radicalized red pill individuals everywhere. Recently, psychologists are interested in developing treatment/recovery for the red pill cult, now this. Hope you guys stress the fact that it operates like a cult, and these men desperately need therapy/treatment to recover from brainwashing! Good luck with the article!
/r/ExRedPill16/03/22 04:01 PM
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I guess, ask the government how you can get on a list. You may already be on one.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/22 12:51 PM
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Unfortunately, when men cross the line from whining and complaining to targeting unsuspecting women, that seems to be the case. I've had the misfortune as a woman to cross red pill/mgtow in real life and also communicating online. I'm usually skeptical of the USA's standards and policies. But, in this case, I completely agree with their assessment of it. Radical men's groups like red pill increase incidents of abuse and violence against women. That is a threat to national security, just like oth…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/22 12:41 PM
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Submission post: The federal government on Tuesday released a study on the growing terrorism threat from men who call themselves "anti-feminists" or "involuntary celibates" and draw motivation for violence from their inability to develop relationships with women.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/22 02:20 PM
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Because there's lots of women around and a lot of them are pretty good people. Take care of yourself 1st, though. Hope you iron it all out. Live a good life.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 03:26 AM
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I don't believe you're done with women, though. It's natural to enjoy the good things of life and that includes making peace, forgiveness, happiness, etc.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 02:32 AM
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You don't have to have a relationship. But, hating women is not a healthy state of mind, neither is hating men. You're setting up a scapegoat, when you could just be alone and neutral.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 02:24 AM
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Even dogs that get beat can be rehabilitated. So can you. It's your life. Drive it up or down. You're in control.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 02:14 AM
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If you never walk your silly sad self to a doctor in a 1st world country, then yeah, you might as well be. Look up a neurologist. Otherwise, setup a tin can for tears and donations because you can't whack off to porn with perfect sensitivity on your couch while you terrorize women because you hate your mom.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 01:53 AM
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Because no one assaulted your penis with the intent to maim you. Your mom was probably oblivious. Lots of stuff happens in life by accident. You should be happy you have a penis. In some middle eastern countries they do botched circumcision by men to boys ON PURPOSE! You could be a real eunuch.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 01:28 AM
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You're not a victim. You're not a cripple. You just like being angry. Then, not accepting the help you've been offered. If you want to be stubbornly broken and angry, fine! But, there is no way I believe it's impossible to fix your problems. I think you just like negative attention and want to take your anger out somewhere... Just accept it, you hate women and want them to suffer for your numb penis. You're not some Mr. Nice Guy. You're not a victim. You've made a choice to go the dark side!
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 01:20 AM
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You won't get a smidgen of validation for your rotten behavior, sir. Not from me :)
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:45 AM
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Good. That's what you're best at doing! Have a good one.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:41 AM
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I just don't care about your problem as much as you do to focus on the specific details of your penis, and I don't feel sorry for you. Currently, you're a terrible person who hates women. I just don't care if your penis works. You might hurt someone with it or with your wrath.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:39 AM
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Uh, well. If you have no feeling down there, I guess you couldn't get pleasure. I just don't believe you when you say it's like a permanent disability. Go start a "Go Fund Me" account, or ask a doctor for help.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:26 AM
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Then, I guess that's just you. The person you are likes to hate women, not handle health problems, and miss out on pleasure. Fine by me!
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:19 AM
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Maybe you don't really need a working penis. Maybe this is your path in life. Whatever you decide!
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:11 AM
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So then, what would you do if your penis was healed? Would you suddenly stop hating women and then want a relationship? My gosh, man. You're no cripple. There ARE people in wheelchairs, paralyzed from the waist down, and seek after a good life and good treatment. You're living the punishment you're focusing on women. The hate has become your main focus. Until you pull out of your own hate infused trap, you will never go an extra mile to find therapy or treatment for your own working "albeit numb…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:05 AM
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Excellent. And, thank you!
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 10:44 PM
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Of course, because you're not able to see this objectively or outside of yourself, like other people can. You think what you're saying is completely rational and reasonable. It's not. You need to find a supportive therapist. Commit to it before you cause harm to others emotionally or otherwise, and drop red pill.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 06:38 PM
7

Well, then, you lacked a healthy family entirely. Now, you're feral and aggressive towards women. Do you want me to cry for you or tell you the truth? You're going to need to fix what your family broke in your head because you're not seeing reality correctly.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 06:31 PM
3

I'm stating my valid opinion. Your dad didn't discipline you enough and teach you to respect women! 😁
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 06:25 PM
7

Of course you do, because you've never been corrected so you act feral, or worse, like a rabid animal looking to lash out on unsuspecting women... Take care.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 06:20 PM
2

While I didn't agree to circumcize my son, and I can understand your grief, what you really needed (like the other red pills do, too) is a 6' tall father who beat your *** for being so hostile towards your mom and focusing male aggression/wrath towards women. That would've really fixed the problem. Unfortunately, we're running low on supportive families that raise children correctly.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 06:17 PM
1

This is a great resource: How to Avoid Falling in Love with a Jerk, by John Van Epp, PhD. Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0071548424/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_341JFX8ZY9TN1ET6YNEX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 01:03 AM
12

Treating either gender as a disposable object to play around with then toss in the garbage. For any reason, especially with lots of excuses. Not taking responsibility for sexual choices, bad choices, and acting glib in regards to sharing DNA (or STDs) sexually with everyone, like it should be seen as less dirty than eating off a stranger's plate of food. It's not. And, it's gross. Acting like being easy and sexually available 24/7 is sexy. Even when it's disturbing, uninvited, and makes people u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:50 PM
6

It's true. It's a good thing to have in common. Nagging isn't good for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:16 AM
29

It's best if a guy likes a clean house and that's his norm, so a 10 out of 10. That's easy to work with. If a guy can relax, eat, and sleep in a dirty environment without noticing, he won't care about cleaning. No point to even discuss chores. Even if he wakes up with plastic wrappers and peanuts stuck to his face, it won't faze him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:10 AM
29

There is no valid data here on this social-sexual dynamic, even when red pill claims to have it all ironed out. For instance, the pickup antics guy who was recently de-platformed for recording hundreds of women who fell for his "pickup tactics." Some of these women were 17 years old. What about him? If you're arguing that women put less effort into getting laid than men do? I don't believe that's true, just look at what lots of women in /deadbedrooms have to do to get their partners and husbands…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 11:22 PM
47

This is coming from a religious person... every man who doesn't stay a virgin until marriage but expects a woman to remain a virgin (or close to one) is a huge hypocrite. A big, dirty hypocrite. What's good for you, should be ok for her to do, and vice versa. Laws/rules apply both ways, both genders, or there are no rules. If you want a "pure" woman, be pure, join the church. Get married. Stay with 1 woman. Otherwise, stop putting out, glamorizing play boys, moralizing when women get laid, stop …
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 10:50 PM
8

They cut ties, just like many companies have with Pornhub (over child trafficking victims). Torero decided to commit suicide. There's equality of choice here. Newsweek broke an excellent story about him. You can believe and do what you want, if it's pickup or red pill whatever, but it doesn't mean your employers, platforms, or friends are obligated to support you.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 03:19 AM
18

It is gross. Old, angry, polluted men trying to take advantage of younger men that have real opportunity to find good friends, good relationships, and family. It's tragic that these men act like role models and that so many believe them.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/22 04:53 AM
3

I think the internet changed culture and shined a light on how many crimes, sex cults, abuses of minors, porn crazed, sex crazed, and otherwise gross/rude people there really are in the world. It's life under the microscope for everyone to see. It's hard to come away with positive conclusions on the internet when the absolute worst things are exposed. I'm sure this leads to increasing hostility towards men and women. What was it all for? Your entertainment. Your ease of access to browse through …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:54 PM
5

You sound like a great guy. I hope your girlfriend has similar behavior. Two people acting like that towards each other is ideal.
/r/ExRedPill02/01/22 04:42 AM
1

No. Shared culture and beliefs are just as important as attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:51 PM
6

I can see you attempted to communicate the best way you can. But, you still have a lot to learn and practice, so start today! If you can't understand why what you said was offensive, start there. Homework assignment: ask a black woman if she felt what you said has value outside of just being degrading? Extra credit for asking women of all races if they've already been notified that men find them unattractive for different reasons? Just start with that before jumping to even bigger conclusions ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:36 PM
5

You can play semantics all you want, but ultimately you're responsible for what comes out of your mouth. You're not owed a trophy for everything you think, say, or do. You also can't extrapolate big meaning about online rules based on your post being taken down. I'm 50% white, 50% hispanic, and honestly can't take your stance seriously because no decent white person I know (with any sense) would say, like they're making a diagram of another species of human, every gross detail they find - unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:07 PM
1

Not everyone sees things like you do. It's kinda sad you can't see that, little emperor. Further, lots of white men are VERY attracted to black women. The problem here is really how limited your mindset is. You're projecting your views like a Supreme ruler of the universe deciding on facts of race, just because it's your own "special" opinion. And, no one is lying to them, because your opinion isn't similar to everyone else's. The majority of men I know ARE attracted to black women. The reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:54 PM
1

It's how you said it 100%. You're missing the point. You could have just left it as a preference, but then you sped past go, and went on about it in very matter-of-fact, cold detail. Now, you're scratching your head and offended because it wasn't well received? What did you expect would happen? If a black man behaved the way you did, and ranted on about how white women (their noses, personality, and bodies) are disgusting, that would be taken down. If women ranted about how disgusting body parts…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:34 PM
7

I dated a racist white guy in the south who had an intense attraction for black women, but was too narcissistic and racist to have a normal relationship with black women due to his issues. He brought it up all the time, and now I find black women to be way more beautiful, pleasant, funny, and feminine, and white guys to be way more disgusting. I'm a heterosexual, half white, half hispanic female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:38 AM
1

I think for as much hate is there, people really do want to find redeeming qualities in men. I like men, for instance, a lot, but unfortunately know that it's necessary to handle them like potentially undomesticated, predatorial zoo animals. Some act right. Some don't and can attack you, or destroy your psychological health, health, etc. Men may just have worse reputations because of the crime rates, and that leads to worsening bias and being unlikable, rather than a general inclination overall …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:48 AM
1

I'm guilty of skimming, in general. I assume I'm not getting honest participation/responses here. But, I get your point now. Appreciate the study as proof. Sentences for crime should be the same between genders. I've never seen anyone advocate for it, but fair is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:59 AM
1

Now, that's fiction. Prove it. Women don't commit violent crimes that men do at equal rates. Female pedophiles, rapists, domestic abusers, murders, don't get out of jail because they're pretty or female. Men lead in crime rates across the board. They always have. That doesn't mean female crime doesn't exist, it absolutely does, but not in any way close to conclude leniency because of female gender - or being treated like children. If women could commit crime without penalties, that would lead to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:03 AM
1

I was shocked those prison rates were at 90%! Wow. Drug rates are worse. I would love to congratulate men on a job well done, when it's earned. But, drug addicts and criminals don't get a gold medal for shoddy lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:25 AM
1

I appreciate that. But, we're also responsible for growing your arms, legs, lungs, your whole darn bodies, so you're welcome. We also nursed you back to health when you stumbled out of brothels, got syphilis from tavern hookers, gave it to us, subdued us, and still helped men find their way through all those crazy dark times, and more. So, you're welcome, too, sir. We have been your greatest muses, companions, and advisors, all along. We just so happen to live out of the dangerous woods, and we'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:29 AM
2

But, when you do, you take 1st place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:06 AM
1

Because you've never been prevented from doing. You never had a huge population of angry godzilla females keeping you locked up at home, making babies, telling you to shut up, or stay down, or else. You're attributing a historical benefit of physical force to other natural ability. More women do now because they're protected when they try and want to do for themselves. I bet you'd hate a female boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:48 PM
0

It's a historic fact that men prevented women from higher education and participation in society. What do you expect from a gender that's been kept locked down, in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:56 PM
1

That was a simple mistake. This is reddit. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:50 PM
1

At the turn of the 20th century, higher education and voting was against the rules for women (because of men). Women are just catching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:41 PM
2

If the whole project belongs to men, and women are just riding side saddle, why blame women for anything, when you can't act right, in general? 90% of our prisons are filled with you. They're overflowing. We're running out of space to house you. It's pretty sad. Seems like all the male strength, violence, and intelligence of the male gender, while acting superior and all, can't keep the majority of you out of the slammer. I'll be waiting for the argument of how the "side saddle" women (or femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:27 PM
2

They have much more leisure time because they're not locked up as much. Haters gonna just hate, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:53 PM
2

Nah. I'm guessing more men end up in jail because of their own nonsense, less able to cope with living in civilized society, less able to balance rational and emotional intelligence needed to maintain peace, to succeed, and less ability to live safe and healthy lives... They resent being forced to follow rules on discussion boards, in board rooms, at home, and frequently plot ways to break all rules, then end up in jail. That makes women seem better to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:43 PM
2

Sure. Why not. I've heard red pills believe women are more attracted to men in jail, or with dark triad qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:16 PM
0

More men end up in jail. That's my point. What's to argue?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:10 PM
1

Men make up 90 percent of the prison and local jail population, and they have an imprisonment rate 14 times higher than the rate for women. Seems women are still doing pretty good, in general, when you keep it in perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:06 PM
4

As opposed to... enslaving her for your own purposes? Red pillers have cognitive defects, for sure. Definitely retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:46 PM
11

Be nice, but stop being a people pleaser, stop being overly accommodating, excuse yourself when you're tired, feel uncomfortable, or feel used. It's one thing to be mutually supportive with friends, another to be used. You need to know the difference and set healthy boundaries for yourself.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 12:02 AM
2

Because they told me they were and talked about it in good detail. You sound/act like you're red pill and some kind of absolutist. You want to force your point over mine. So, I'm done chatting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:41 PM
2

What makes you think I don't know red pill men in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:01 PM
2

No, I'm completely serious. It's just like that, almost exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:54 PM
63

You probably have to cut your losses. His brain was colonized by an extreme homosocial radical men's cult. Unless your guy has a major shift in perspective and therapy to get out, he will see the world and relationships with women like that for the rest of his life. You can suggest going to couple's therapy, but if he doesn't see the point, it's up to you to get out and find someone else who's healthier. Take care.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 07:57 PM
4

Thanks for the in depth response. It's helpful to see what happened with good males during current hookup culture (from a male perspective).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:12 PM
19

Men who want to "pair bond" with one woman for a long, long, long lifetime. Men who want a church wedding. Men who want to date without having casual sex, to get to know someone very well. Fools rush in. Men who aren't addicted to sex, drugs, alcohol, or pornography. Men who don't blame women for everything that's wrong in the world. Men who seek therapy. Men with emotional intelligence. Men who take care of their health, not just their looks. Men who accept responsibility for fault and failure.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:22 AM
1

I'm sure things are pretty messed up now. Very shallow. But, there are people who live just fine outside of the redpill ideology. I don't doubt people respond to attractiveness. But, there are lots of average or below average guys who get married and settle down. Same for women. Maybe beauty/looks exclude people from dating others who value looks above all, but, if you're only looking for one person that really likes you, that's ok. The "other" people who exclude you don't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:28 AM
1

If you judge everything based on celebrity news. I know enough good married men in my family that didn't cheat, treat their wives like true partners, and have stayed together. I've seen it, so I know what good men look like. I also understand what you believe to be true. It's just not true in my world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:52 AM
9

Many irreligious conservative men exist, so I don't see why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:11 PM
3

Good men who work hard deserve to be treated well and loved by good women, not financially exploited, cheated on, or used up. And, I feel sorry for any good man who's been legitimately victimized by a bad woman. So, I understand certain things about redpill or blackpill that are defensive. But... men who rotate "plates" and degrade women who create problems or hurt others don't deserve respect no matter how much they act all manly, make money, workout, brush their hair and teeth. Redpill abuses …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:17 AM
0

That's what's said in theory. That's not what I've seen practiced. Maybe some refrain, others do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:41 AM
11

The redpill thinks they have a chance with traditional women, but they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:32 AM
9

I don't accept redpill ideology is right about women, but I'm sure I would be forced to sign up for it. Like a cult. Other human rights include: Freedom from Discrimination Right to Life, Liberty, Personal Security Freedom from Slavery Freedom from Torture and Degrading Treatment There's more. But, yeah, I don't think redpill marriage would afford me basic human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:52 PM
20

I would be deprived of peace, safety, happiness, and dignity by a male tyrant who uses psychological manipulation to control me. It's likely he would also justify other kinds of abuse because he sees me as subhuman. Would you sign up to have a boss who sees you as subhuman? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:42 PM
13

Redpill is not a traditional marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:21 PM
13

The ones afforded to me by the constitution of the USA, same rights afforded to men. Generally, the freedom to pursue happiness and not be treated like a slave or subhuman deserving of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:18 PM
25

No. Marriage to that would just be a long jail sentence served out for his ignorance. I wouldn't want to give up 1st world freedoms for a redpill guy, and need to fight to prove I'm a human deserving of basic human rights everyday. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:09 PM
33

Self defense and awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:51 PM
6

Ok, wow. TRP is disgusting in every way.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/21 12:33 PM
3

I think you'll be disappointed because I think they base these ideas more on ideas on conquest and female submissiveness, rather than skin color. They like to market the ideas, and men get swept up into those value systems by other men. I understand variations of white skin color depending on territory. It's a sad topic, really. Because it drives women to feel disqualified if she's too dark or too light.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/21 05:45 AM
12

I have a "partial theory" they're getting this stuff from porn or porn fantasies. Otherwise, Latin women are stereotyped as hot blooded, and Asian women are miscategorized as submissive even though they are often matriarchs of their families. Red Pill men just decide on dumb stuff, unfortunately. And, men are still running the world.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/21 04:51 AM
1

Not explicitly in the video, but, yes, Red Pill and MGTOW both support and encourage men to hire hookers, too. They like to brag it's cheaper and easier than having a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 09:49 PM
16

Sex tourism (they promote it).
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 07:55 PM
5

I've heard one (supposedly heterosexual) RP guy who loathed women idolize a guy he met one day, his looks for a few good minutes, etc. The way he preferred and got giddy over homosocial activities and deeply resented women made me really, really start to suspect the same thing - internalized homophobia.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 06:56 PM
1

The reactionary and opposed FDS group calls this "future faking" or "future baiting." Let them think they're geniuses, though. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:43 PM
1

Ok. Thank you. Throughout human evolution, resource acquisition positively influenced male reproductive success (Low, 1990, 2000; Smith, 2004), so that sexual selection may have favored status seeking behavior in men (Betzig, 1986; Dixson, 2016; Von Rueden and Jaeggi, 2016).
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 02:31 PM
7

I agree and it's entirely frustrating (for a woman), especially when a man uses these male standards to construct rules and entire relationships around. A lot of men can't actually hear or understand that there are women in the world looking for basic levels of compatibility. They only trust other male opinions on the topic.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 05:07 AM
7

Wow, great question. As a female, I've asked myself the same thing (about men's values). To expand on this, men base their values on what other men say, and even who they will pursue or be attracted to on other men. It has almost nothing to do with women, like you pointed out.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 04:49 AM
8

I dunno. I guess, you should ask yourself why you need to judge your partner and other women's sexuality? How is that working for you, as in, destroying intimacy and trust in a relationship? Sounds damaging. If you want to create distance between you, make your partner feel uncomfortable, and always make yourself feel good or maybe above others all the time, maybe you should ask yourself why? Do you want to make her feel bad? Does it make you feel good to judge? Are you not really happy in a clo…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 05:10 AM
5

If he's a happy celibate guy trying to be responsible, awesome. I would respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:44 AM
1

Guilt and depression is something you should talk about with a therapist. Keep in mind, there will be lots of men who end up damaged and depressed from Red Pill (MGTOW and Pickup Tactics). You're just the first wave of victims of the cult to get out and realize what happened to you and others. Definitely recommend self-help books. Take care. This is a great resource: Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 11:23 PM
13

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:47 PM
2

It is a scam. A dangerous scam. I feel bad for these guys because they're going to wakeup one day and see the damage.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 05:17 PM
10

Of course, degenerate behaviors are only found in women. Just look at the gender predominantly found in all national prisons. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:25 AM
3

The only good point MGTOW discovered about themselves is that they're not cut out for marriage. They're not marriage material. It says almost nothing factual about women, no reliable claims made, at all. If MGTOW men have a preference to be exclusively homosocial and anti-marriage, then, yes, let them go their own way. Just don't target and abuse women or drive sex trade while practicing the "tenants" of the cult. If MGTOW wants to take themselves out of the gene pool and avoid supporting a wife…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/21 11:53 PM
9

It's a self-improvement/sex cult that sells gym memberships, how-to become an alpha male at any cost to humanity guides, and promises sexual advantages and benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:14 PM
5

Red pill and MGTOW groups are fake "self-improvement" cults. I've never seen anything recommended to men that could actually help them, like therapy or group counseling that could address real issues that lead to divorce and dysfunction relationships, or improve communities or marriage. They've got their female "boogeyman" and it works to validate themselves at the expense of everyone else living in reality.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/21 05:28 PM
6

I've seen something similar recently on the Rational Male YouTube channel by Rollo Tomassi titled Modern Women Owe Men Sex
/r/ExRedPill21/11/21 01:13 AM
13

Wow, thank you for such an in depth response. This is expert information for anyone interested in researching or learning more about these parallels.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/21 12:13 AM
1

Yes
/r/ExRedPill20/11/21 11:08 PM
18

I see a connection between covert Red Pill manipulation techniques used for purposes of sexual exploitation and criminal sexual assault. I understand why you suggest it is the conclusion of the ideology. Red Pill both dehumanizes women and gives permission to men to sexually exploit them. What else would the conclusion of the ideology be, other than increasing hostility towards women and lowering social/moral inhibitions so low that it results in sexual violence against women? There are similari…
/r/ExRedPill20/11/21 10:04 PM
8

Therapy and self-help books, maybe? One suggested resource: Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan
/r/ExRedPill20/11/21 03:13 PM
9

Yes, be painfully honest and vulnerable with the right people you feel comfortable with and trust to help you, even if it's hard.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/21 01:25 AM
5

Therapy and discussions with a patient girlfriend, friends, and therapist.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/21 01:21 AM
1

I didn't start the fire, but, yes, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:51 PM
1

I use Reddit, that's it. So, yeah, people like me are probably pretty impossible to find online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:55 AM
1

I never dated anyone based on looks or money. I don't like men who have hangups about money. Came from a religious background. My dad took us to feed and clothe the poor, so I guess I don't have your mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:47 AM
1

I'll be happy with the above, he can even be poor and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:27 AM
13

Agreed, and will be more mindful because these guys need both therapy and support to get out of the red pill cult. It's a really disturbing ideology and its supporters are determined to continue spreading it, but lots of men want to get out but probably can't find good support and resources, right now. One suggested resource: Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 03:39 PM
23

I agree. Can help people see women as human beings capable of empathy again.
/r/ExRedPill16/11/21 12:48 PM
1

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:46 PM
7

I never bothered to "learn" these ideologies closely. I don't want or need the cultural programming. Red pill is a cult. I lived pretty much oblivious to it previous to the last 2 years, and am only interested in indirectly supporting people to get out and get therapy.
/r/ExRedPill15/11/21 10:51 PM
3

Yes
/r/ExRedPill15/11/21 10:49 PM
2

Ok, I got it. But, your children will be the bloodline of both families, with behaviors and qualities of their ancestors. Your kids may look like your partner. Will you reject your kids if they have attributes of their mother, or her family? That will be a learning curve. Do you think children benefit from "family socializing"? To know extended family members? Is family really not how the world works anymore? And, why do your priorities exclude family priorities just for your own personal goals?…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:23 PM
8

Same here. Very much respect and love my father (for similar reasons) and mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:52 PM
5

Glad you got out.
/r/ExRedPill15/11/21 06:16 PM
1

Both are possible. Generational toxicity and miscommunication leading to radical solutions. I'm from the USA and hope we figure it out. I learned valuable things from everyone on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:32 AM
0

If there ARE issues with American women, I blame it on their frustration with the shitty quality of American males, which is pretty evident when you go outside and see how American men dress, talk, act, etc. It's was disappointing for me to discover red pill and MGTOW groups indirectly. I really struggled to accept men could really believe this stuff and be so combative towards women? They're extremely loud with their claims of being victims, and always on the defense, but very blind to themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:52 AM
2

As far as the Mediterranean, all around the area, stories are told of a thing called "Bezness." It only became a thing here on television shows, but it's a common fact. Many bold and sexually active males are left penniless, attacked, and even run out of towns. They're scammed online by men and women who become friends, then romantic partners, then there's a sudden illness, a tragedy, a need for money. Westerners love to go abroad for sex or to interact with young men and women. The locals under…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:13 AM
3

Smart lady!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:39 PM
4

Yes. It's becoming habit-forming for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:19 PM
10

Sounds like you're dependent on casual sex. Not good LTR material, no long term anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:16 PM
1

I'm not engaging in conversation with you. And, I don't need to prove anything to you. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:04 PM
2

Yes, it's just propaganda for their club (cult).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:52 PM
1

I can't reply to this because it's filled with too many false generalized statements about how western men interact with women (and men) and how sex tourism works in the 3rd world, I have lost respect needed to continue a civil discussion. You will get served exactly what you deserve, on this topic, much worse than your ex-wives or ex-girlfriends did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:54 PM
1

Glad to hear it!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:16 AM
1

Yes, it is. These men claim to be victims while taking advantage of the most vulnerable kinds of women. It is disgusting. I see a few posts everyday of red pill guys bragging about taking the virginity of Indonesian women, etc. They'll keep blaming western women, all the way. Only good that will come of this is these men may not be civilized to be fathers or husbands anymore (which may serve a greater purpose), or get locked down into more severe legal consequences than they had before with west…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:13 AM
-1

"Your situation is likely like the one I mentioned above so I don't care. Like finding someone to take advantage of isn't some flex you think it is lol" It's not, and they're sick with worse entitlement than they can see... if they even marry these "non-western women" at all, not just do sex tourism, gaming impoverished women. By the time they start dealing with international custody disputes and divorce, it'll be too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:03 AM
-2

You guys are taking huge, unknown risks with these behaviors... especially when you start dealing with international child custody disputes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:56 AM
0

Hehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:54 PM
-1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:52 PM
6

Seems to me, end game is dying alone without wife or kids (or, another wife and more kids). Driving sex trade, porn, lots of short term relationships, at best several LTRs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:47 PM
3

A lot of men will do the same and regret it, too. Waiting to see more resources become available for men (and women) who have lost time or relationships because of it. They're needed.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/21 06:57 PM
10

Cults and Support for Former Cult Members: http://www.forensiccounselor.org/?Topics_of_Interest__Cults_and_Support_for_Former_Cult_Members Discussion, Consultation, and Support Groups: https://www.icsahome.com/support/consultationsupportgroups
/r/ExRedPill13/11/21 06:20 AM
2

Probably correct, yes - on the market. Edit: women do actually care what their partners think, but that's another topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:25 AM
3

By and far, women don't control the market. We don't control the media, and we don't set standards for how we're valued. It's pretty much all about what men do. Women will choose the best from what's available.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:16 AM
0

Because you guys are really competing with other men, racially and otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:51 AM
1

Men determine the market. It's not women, but how men value women and what other men "buy and sell" that will determine everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:47 AM
4

Yes. These guys are, at best, armchair psychologists, "experts" at diagnosing women with incurable conditions that can only be treated with archaic therapies such as covert psychological manipulation, abuse, and solitary confinement! For Further Reading: Horrifying Psychiatric Treatments From The Age Of Reason https://cvltnation.com/horrifying-psychiatric-treatments-from-the-age-of-reason/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:29 PM
1

I don't think western countries operated very different from other collectivist cultures throughout history. Modern culture has completely unhinged itself from any restrictions and responsibilities to other people in order to go straight for whatever it wants, even if it's blatantly criminal behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:06 PM
3

Values and sexual ethics are inverted because hookup culture changed the goal posts for everyone. A man used to be expected to prove he was from a good background, could provide, and was respected in order to marry. This is still the case in several countries that prohibit sex outside of marriage, where the stigma exists, like the middle east. In the past, we were like that, too, in westernized countries. Sex and procreation was for marriage. Women spent time learning to be domestic to prepare f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:04 AM
2

Hopefully the good ones will learn to navigate this better and actively pursue each other. That's what I hope for too and that's what I recommend to other women as often as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:15 AM
3

Men are much more rude in discussions online than in person. But, you get to see a lot more of their thoughts and motivations online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:49 AM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:43 AM
7

This is a really good point... If anyone should be forced to stay monogamous under the law, it’s men. They’re the ones ruining dating by trying to extract as much sex as they can from as many women as they can—even ones they don’t like or see as marriage material simply so they can “feel” like they’re “the man.” You’re the ones who see women as products, you’re the ones who obsessively categorize people—both men and women—into classes based on looks and make up rules and assumptions about who de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:09 AM
3

We're not attracted to them. It's only their vampirism that gets you when you give the smallest permission to pass over the threshold. Women are getting keen to it now and doing everything possible to beat them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:11 PM
5

Glad you escaped red pill.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/21 11:04 PM
17

I would tell him it's a cult and to get help. That ideology is toxic and will only turn into neglect, distance, disrespect, fear, cheating, and even abuse.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/21 06:11 PM
2

Being stuck with a guy who doesn't want sex (with me), or watches porn, or is low libido for personal reasons (not health reasons) would be a big problem. It would be like torture watching a low libido, oblivious guy watch TV, eat, maybe not shower, and walk around all day not thinking about sex. I would only grow to dislike him, a lot. It would never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:08 PM
1

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:53 PM
1

Maybe ugly women and fat guys will save the world together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:19 PM
5

I'm not looking. But, yeah, that's bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:56 AM
2

You weren't able to before? Which wife stopped you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:57 AM
2

Honesty is good quality. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:48 AM
14

Not true. Entire forums are dedicated to shaming women who can't find a good man. Both genders share in relationship shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:40 AM
2

100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:37 AM
3

Sounds like you give bad advice, though. What's your LTR survival rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:31 AM
13

A guy who doesn't rate on the DSM-5, capable of actually feeling and maintaining love for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:46 AM
14

Probably because she needs to find a very good LTR for her health, happiness, and (instinctual) survival. Have you seen how many men want to beat, abuse, or abandon women? They struggle with the basics! It may be difficult for red pill men, even impossible for many of them, to maintain a LTR in any normal or safe way. So, maybe they can't understand, at all. A woman's chances of crossing a bad man, like a red pill, go up with each subsequent partner. She needs to pick well. And, every single wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:28 AM
2

I think he means fragility
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:10 PM
13

Examples: 1. Not telling a girl she’s average 2. Not raising your voice to a woman 3. Not slapping a woman for the same thing you’d slap a man for 4. Going soft when play fighting women 5. Letting women win the game so she doesn’t feel bad 6. Carrying heavy things for women 7. Not being blunt and direct and sugar coating Women can learn from these examples in the following ways: Men can be dangerous Men can be resentful of not yelling, slapping, or beating you Men don't really want to help you A…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:26 PM
3

I guess, what's important is what he really believes in general about the girl and how he sees her, rather than how he acts, over the long run. A people pleasing guy will defend fort if he thinks/feels/believes it's necessary. The overly masculine guy may be lazy and narcissistic, and not give a darn about his relationships, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:36 PM
3

Women have as much agency in a "shared mess" as possible, they just cope with it differently than men. But, the men who designed these platforms realized they would be advertising sex and women, because it sells. Men designed these platforms specifically to sell sex and women. Are you angry at women because they're so eager to promote themselves on those platforms? Or, angry at women because they didn't stay home and offline?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:21 PM
1

I have no idea what standards are nowadays. But, did you know Facebook started as a college hookup website to help guys get girls (and get laid)? Look what's happened now. I bet red pill spends all day long blaming women for dating problems caused by social media. It's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:01 PM
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So, if you had to choose between a guy who calls you an ugly 5 or a guy who thinks you're a 10, which one do you pick? Hmmmmm... I guess, some women might be persuaded by hate and ridicule beyond absurdity. Or, just run away. Is that what red pill is? Bully tactics at the playground? You know, like make her cry and keep her confidence really low, so she starts to believe you're doing her a favor? It's interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:30 PM
1

Maybe you've had too much and party's over. Boo hoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:04 PM
4

Zero sum thinking. Ask a boomer. You're radicalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:03 PM
1

Both are radical solutions to hookup culture
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:25 PM
1

I don't blame men who feel victimized by society and culture, now. I know there are good men out there who have been wronged. I've met a few. But, many of these men's groups are complicit when they promote sex trade, sex tourism, porn, and casual sex. They're literally driving demand. They are still #1 consumers. They're also benefitting from avoiding marriage, having a lot of casual sex, and they should share some responsibility for the damages. Not just blame feminism or women alone. In my opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:53 PM
1

Society shames both male and female virgins. It especially shames promiscuous females... I'd also like to point out that this is a fair question, not a position. I didn't shame male virgins. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of red pill "manosphere" sexual antics and demands of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:26 PM
2

I don't have a solid opinion on that. From what I'm reading here, many men struggle to find a partner, many are divorced, and many refuse to get married, at all. Are men happier now than before? Probably living in a 1st world country helps a lot. With their relationships, not sure? Divorce rates remain high.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:16 PM
3

Well, this is where red pill benefits from feminism. Men now have the option to "test" a woman sexually before committing to her. But, other men may have "tested" her before you. And, you may not like that number, at all. This is where I feel the red pill should kinda "stop whining" because they're benefitting from casual sex, they just don't want to deal with the results. Especially when many red pills and MGTOW completely refuse to marry, at all. You are running out of virgins, fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:41 PM
2

Red pill is just another half-baked, male dominated ideology that seeks to control female sexuality, and blame women for societal problems. It's absurd that men excuse having premarital sex with women, but expect the same female dating pool to stay virgins. Then, penalizing women because they aren't virgins, or have higher sexual numbers of partners. When men demand or expect premarital sex, how is this even possible? The increased rates of sexual partners of women will ALWAYS correlate to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:22 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:03 PM
1

Values are fluid and always changing with more time and research. You're cherry picking research to promote male promiscuity and penalize female promiscuity. Eventually, we'll need to get some solid research on the full effects of red pill and MGTOW, too. By then, you guys will need rehab or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:00 PM
5

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:55 PM
6

Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:50 PM
6

I've questioned it. Not sure. But, browsing some of the comment history of red pills, some have stated to have had 200-250 sex partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:33 PM
18

Yes, it's incredibly warped thinking, on their part. These men spend all time and effort "damaging" the so-called sexual market value of women in their own dating pools (with casual sex and hookups). Then, they "slut shame" the same women. Another example of why red pill is very much like a predatorial sex cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:28 PM
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If this was a fair question (this is coming from a religious person) how many of these red pills are virgins themselves? Why do they expect virgins, but spend the rest of the time talking about using prostitutes, getting laid by easy women, and then demanding marriage with a virgin? Peak narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:00 PM
1

Stick to the fundamentals. Many people are too busy chasing the highs to think about their baseline needs of compatibility. It's very destructive and messy, to speed into fantasy and learn by hindsight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 07:08 PM
7

Red pills who advocate for sex trade and sex workers are not marriage or father material. Why would a woman want to breed with a man who sleeps with sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:56 PM
7

No, I'd rather be with a level-headed and good person than stuck with a rich person without empathy or morals. Money doesn't buy you contentment.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/21 04:20 PM
4

Sorry. Not every woman or female friend is shallow. Men can be pretty cruel when a woman needs emotional support, too. Best answer is, look for better friends and take care of yourself.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/21 04:18 PM
2

Excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:30 PM
1

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:54 PM
7

It's so sad. People wonder why they never get what they want. It's like yes, looks, but... like, not just looks! You'll hate that person in 6 months, they'll hate you, too : )
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:49 AM
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That beliefs, values, lifestyle, family, and background aren't as important as they really are and can be glossed over blissfully through early dating phases. You need to nail those things down before falling in love with your eyes. Nothing worse than falling in love with a fantasy, getting snagged on it, only to have to painfully dismantle it when reality hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:35 AM
1

Well, you're definitely more reasonable than some of the others who just act like victims in this big "free pussy" culture. But, let's be clear, if I was sleeping around as much as some of these red pills (200-250 partners - wow!!!!) I would keep my mouth shut and never complain about a bad date, an evil strategy, an immoral person I crossed ever again - I mean, come on, red pills are getting around. Of course, that level of action is going to bring on some drama and problems! Why do red pills c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:24 AM
3

I didn't have time to read about it and I still can't believe Red Pills believe this junk. Like, what happened on the internet? Did the internet fry their brains? I'm still trying to understand how radical theories were accepted. There's no common sense anymore. It's like a brain sewer of radicalism with no connection to facts. I was out of the country for a while. That's my excuse. And, of course, I've been in love before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:04 AM
1

Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:49 PM
1

As long as you can see the male complicity in all of it, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:37 PM
1

Setting moral standards for casual sex is a ridiculous effort on behalf of red pills who complain about feminism. Feminists have been your greatest supporters all along. If it wasn't for their efforts, you'd still be with wife #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:29 PM
1

If you're MGTOW or red pill, ask your cult masters where their ideologies and dreams came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:58 PM
1

Men control the sex trade, they were first in line to excuse things like adultery and divorce - like Henry VIII - think of the glory then? When men could just falsely accuse a wife they were getting bored of and execute her because she was too much of a "nag." Women have only recently adopted the behavior of the worst men who rule the world. They're encouraged to be whoring, easy, and to serve up what you want. Red Pills would reject a virgin if they found one and go straight for the hypergamous…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:54 PM
1

You guys sure dream about the traditional golden days of religious times before, a lot! Where divorce wasn't legal, men held all rights to custody of children, and you could beat women without any penalties!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:48 PM
1

I'm pointing out the clear hypocrisy in their hypergamy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:31 PM
1

Stop complaining about having sex with hypergamous "slutty women" then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:28 PM
1

No, premarital sex was a death sentence, and still is a death sentence for many women around the world. Red Pills are running out of clean "plates" which is why men now go abroad to exploit the sex trade and poor youth. You guys are literally still buying porn, prostitutes, and constantly paying for it. Keep blaming women, though. It's half-baked nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:27 PM
0

Men were encouraged to drink and carouse and have sex outside of marriage (and be adulterers) way before women were liberated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:19 PM
1

How many of you red pills would wait to marry a virgin and not have sex outside of marriage? ZERO. You guys are getting served what you ordered!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:12 PM
23

Brainwashed predators. Zero sum thinking. Narcissism. Self-serving wolves. Probably huge supporters of porn, onlyfans, and sex trade. Finger pointers. Emotionally traumatized or stunted. Cult leaders or cult followers. Addicts, alcoholics, and domestic abusers. Perpetual blamers of women. Failed alphas without friends or real social status. Disagreeable. Deceptive con-artists. Old, lonely men without kids getting beaten or stolen from in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:49 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:30 PM
2

TRP has groomed you guys to die off, stop reproducing, never find the right partner, only confide with other sick men, etc. It's a cult. Get help before it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 12:48 PM
2

You don't notice it as much on the outside. So, I think I missed the memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 12:42 PM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 12:36 PM
12

When I met someone that had gone through a terrible divorce and spent every year after that getting more and more radicalized because of TRP - instead of seeking alternatives, like therapy, and getting real help. Scary person now. TRP creates sociopaths, predators, and walking shells of human beings. It's not a good solution for men or women.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/21 07:39 AM
3

If you're invincible, you don't have to convince me. Maybe you just prefer to work and gain. If you don't want the closest people to you to understand your good and bad sides, no problem. Lots of men bottle up, work a lot, and die unhappy because they missed opportunities of having real relationships. Lots of men complain of high stress and the high associated suicide rates, feel alienated, drained financially, and never think that maybe they've really done it to themselves by presenting themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:43 AM
3

Kids learn from behavior faster than words. No problem with acting on rationality and emotion, at all. But, denying emotions completely isn't normal. Men will get old, get sick, lose jobs, they need support. It's part of life. Maybe you've never needed it yourself and you're just that invincible. Maybe you've never crashed hard enough yet to need anyone else. It's good to be surrounded by people who will emotionally support you, teach you how to be balanced, appreciate your relationships, protec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:26 AM
6

Problem is emotional exchange is important for personal development, relationships, for youth, and for families as a whole. If you think teaching young kids, in a father role, to deny normal emotional coping mechanisms for your own sake of grandiosity and preference of self-reliance, ok. But, psychopaths usually choke off all life around themselves, acting like the perfected creatures they see themselves as, wrecking relationships everywhere and end up old and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:05 AM
12

Don't listen to that guy. You want to find a woman who supports you emotionally. It should go both ways. Men or women who tell you otherwise are sick. Successful, long-term relationships should be supportive - not a crutch - but, supportive. You should want to defend her, she should want to defend you. Ignore the radicals who say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 05:39 AM
14

Never. The fact that they don't, in general, makes the group even more predatorial. If you see the female gender as the "enemy" you should state that, like a religious belief or personal ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:35 AM
1

Agreed 10000000%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 02:48 AM
4

He has a corporate job that teaches all about diversity. He maintains friendships with different racial groups, but doesn't even want his fast food delivered by "their hands." I've questioned the neurological issue potential, mental illness, too, but he's functional enough to work in corporate America. I think they're decidedly that way. They see themselves as superior. It's sick. He sought out nazi groups years ago. Divorced guy with two kids. It's up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 02:43 AM
4

You probably know a lot more about the topic. I'm still learning. I spent a lot of time trying to make sense out of every new piece of shocking and really awful behavior and information. I thought redpillers (and all the others) were just fringe groups who only appealed to people who were obvious criminals or lacked critical thinking skills? It was hard to believe they were serious? But, no, these people really exist and believe this garbage, subscribe to it, find places to reinforce it. That gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 02:25 AM
10

Many Redpillers hide their beliefs from women and friends, very well, which is deceptive. If it's so good, why all the smoke and mirrors? I lived abroad for a while and only learned about Redpill like a crash course through a corporate guy. Over time, he increasingly used sexist, racist, and other radical commentary (as he got comfortable). He even started encouraging me to read, "The Turner Diaries." Over about a year, he revealed it all... Redpill, MGTOW, Qanon, his past Nazi meetings and beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:47 PM
10

Hardcore, Christian "nice" guy who's married but taking the virginity of young Phillipino women? Nice to who, exactly? Yourself? This post has to be a joke. If not, OP, you're still lost (like the other redpillers) AND still going to hell 🔥
/r/ExRedPill07/11/21 06:45 PM
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