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Are you even reading what I am saying... I am saying that in the chemistry department there is a hiring policy that favors male applicants. And in the math department there is a hiring policy that favors female applicants. What even? I don't know how you got that from what I wrote?
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:18 PM
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You are putting words in my mouth, I didn't say that qualifications don't matter. I am saying that if there is no sexism and assuming that men and women are roughly of equal competence even if they make different career choices, rates of employment should broadly (although not perfectly) reflect the labour pool. That is to say that if the labour pool was 50/50 split, a 70/30 split in hiring might make sense, but a 5/95 split does not especially in an industry as desirable as scientific research.…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 01:57 PM
8

The constitution only talks about inalienable rights ( I am pretty sure I may be wrong), the god given part is just rhetoric technique.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:43 AM
-8

So become an MP and fix it. Complaining on the internet isn't going to fix anything.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:41 AM
-13

Because women get 50% of Math PhD's? and only 5% of chemistry PhD's? Oh wait that's not true its about 10% and 50% respectively... Or because women who study chemistry hate university jobs, yet the men don't, and the opposite is true of Math PhD's... I think that even if other factors are at play, they cannot explain these discrepancies. You would have to be pretty blind to not notice that something is fishy here. Also I happen to know that something is fishy here, these are all desirable jobs w…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:29 AM
-1

It's clearly indicative because the vast majority of math PhD's are male. So it is very unlikely that a merit based hiring system in a very competitive industry would result in a 50/50 split. In the chemistry department, Graduating PhD's are about split 50/50 between genders so the fact that only 2/40 staff are female is also pretty indicative of discrimination in hiring policies. If it was 10/40 I wouldn't make the claim but it's much lower than that. Also I major in both of these departments a…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:20 AM
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It depends, there are legitimate cases of sexism in STEM. for example at my school there are exactly 2 female staff out of 40+ academic staff in the chemistry department. Whereas in the math department, half of the academic staff are women. Both are clearly indicative of sexist hiring policies that go in both directions.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:28 AM
3

I don't think that college is for what you think it is for.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 02:24 AM
2

Perhaps, It's from the one that apple uses as a basis for their dictionary.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 06:52 AM
3

Which would most likely immediately preceed the word 'baker'.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 03:31 PM
2

Because none rape activities can be performed by rapists, and they are not rapists only when committing rape.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 03:30 PM
13

I am pretty sure this is from the oxford standard English dictionary originally.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 03:29 PM
1

I've gotten every job I've ever had by knowing a guy. That is how the vast majority of jobs are gotten. You may have a moral objection to this, but if you don't take advantage of it you may well end up unemployed or with a shitty job. The exception is grad job programs, but they are quite competitive.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 01:11 PM
-1

'Connections' are a part of life, if you didn't get 'connections' that is your fault, that's part of why you go to college. If it just so happens that these people have well connected parents then good for them. I think that you would be better served by empathy rather than judgement. If these people are as ill-disciplined as you say, they probably won't last long even with 'connections'.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 07:54 AM
16

Your generation isn't particularly better or worse than any other generation.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 03:25 AM
1

Best way to deal with it is to let them get crazier and crazier so that in the end no-one takes them seriously and you can point and say "Look, this is what feminism has become." Stopping them now is like stopping Hitler from killing Hitler.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:22 PM
2

I don't think Marx is that badly misunderunderstood.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:21 PM
3

Care to continue your anecdote? I am interested. I find it hard to say but I also suspect women are more often lazy workers when they work with other women.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 08:20 AM
4

I hadn't heard it before.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 08:11 AM
20

100 men would not be enough.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 03:31 AM
22

Glass Cellar, that is brilliant.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 03:31 AM
-1

I don't know for sure, but this probably happens with things like tuition.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 10:06 PM
6

Who goes to a beer pong league to score?
/r/MensRights29/08/13 10:04 PM
1

Revisionist or Classical?
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:23 PM
1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8XJEWpDYwk She's not at all funny. She is just full of diatribe.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:13 PM
3

oh wait, there is no men's section...
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:06 PM
5

That is a good example.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:24 PM
2

None of those are about the 60% statistic... they are about other statistics that seem out of place in the context of the 60% statistic.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:23 PM
1

Debate club doesn't follow the rules of logical argument. I have never watched a debate that was not rife with with logical fallacy, and dubious quoted statistics. In the real world, there is no rigor in discounting a statement because of a personal judgement about the statement maker. You could say that idiots are wrong or liars are lying some large portion of the time, but that does not imply that it is the case this time.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:22 PM
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Mate, calling someone an idiot does not invalidate what they say.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 10:15 AM
5

And an unintelligble black box that requires men to design and operate...
/r/MensRights26/08/13 09:51 AM
1

Source that this has ever been cited as a crisis or problem?
/r/MensRights26/08/13 09:50 AM
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I am sorry, I don't see how I am trolling. I may be an idiot, but that has exactly zero bearing on the validity of anything I say.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:10 AM
1

That childish hobbies should probably be the primary characteristic. However I believe this statement "people who are overweight, smelly and have childish hobbies." is largely reflective of how society perceives "geeks". I don't like the word geek, for this reason. I will defend the statement about weight, as saying that geeks are generally perceived as stereotypically having abnormal body shapes, such as being very thin, or overweight, however this isn't required so I suppose I shouldn't includ…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:06 AM
1

I think that there is a difference between telling people to be adults and telling them to be real men. But point taken.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:00 AM
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No not at all. At the time Hitler came to power this distinction was between progressives and conservatives. Socialism and Fascism are progressive ideologies and were quite popular among the elite such as movie stars and intellectuals, in Europes and the US. Another argument you could make is that nationalism is a distinctly conservative notion, but again in the 1930's this just wasn't the case. Nationalism was an early 20th century notion that has only recently been rejected by the 'left'. At t…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 03:31 PM
1

I see left right differently, as historical distinctions really. Elements of modern american leftism are directly inherited from socialist and fascist movements/trends of the 30s, 40s and 50s, was more my point. I think the anarchy totalitarian dichotomy is not isomorphic to right left dichotomy. Though it does somewhat reflect the ideologies of say fascists and libertarians.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 03:11 PM
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To be fair, I think that male "geeks" need to step up. Not for the sake of women, but for their own sake. They are largely responsible for their own stereotype. I am a math major, so I see a mixture of people who you would never call geeks but who study CS, math, engineering what have you. But also people who are overweight, smelly and have childish hobbies. I row crew and am a young conservative party member, so I don't face any accusations of being a nerd, or geeky regardless of my major.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 02:55 PM
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Depends on the department. My universities chemistry department has almost no academic female staff. 2 women out of something like 50 researchers. However the mathematics department has a 50/50 split. Both of which I think are due to discrimination in hiring. As the head of the maths dept is a raging feminist, and math is a 90/10 field for men. Chemistry is a 50/50 field and even though this trend is recent, 4% of staff being female is very odd.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 02:08 PM
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Stalin was a communist which is typically considered a left wing ideology. Hitler was a fascist, at the time in Europe and America fascism was all the rage among intellectuals and movie stars, much the same way "American liberalism" is now, which is what Americans call "left wing". So yea, Hitler was left wing. Edit: I must point out that I use left wing in the sense that he was an agitator for change at a time when this wasn't done in any serious way by conservative movements. In the 1930's the…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 02:04 PM
1

Hahah, this is funny on many levels.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:18 AM
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Yea I mean, I agree. I don't like this policy much myself. In fact I think it will negatively affect women more then men because they just wont get hired as much if maternity rates go up. It should be for both sexes ideally. However this is not a policy for gender equality. It is a fecundity policy.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 11:32 PM
1

Those people are factually incorrect.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 11:28 PM
0

Exploitation seems to mean "using" to you. Employers use employees to produce things in which they sell. In the same way employees exploit employers for their wage.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 11:28 PM
1

Exploiting the labour of their employees... I don't think its exploitation when the employees choose to work their in exchange for an agreed upon wage. Please don't make Mens Rights another hyper left marxist movement.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 11:26 PM
1

Ok I will rephrase. There will be an increase on company taxes that is expected to produce as much revenue as this program is expected to cost.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 11:22 PM
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No Australian women are extremely bad at being in equal relationships.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:34 AM
3

The money is going to come from a tax increase on businesses. This is a big part of the policy...
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:33 AM
4

As a member of this particular party. That is not why they want to do it. The liberal party believes that it will in the long term encourage more women to have families. What the party doesn't realise is it will also cause women to be hired less as they are more likely to take time off for their kids. Iirc, they also claim that this will result in sufficient economic growth to pay off the money spent, although this sounds dubious to me. Edit: Just to make it clear, the money for this bill is act…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:31 AM
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Do you hear this from asian women?
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:20 AM
2

or Australia...
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:13 AM
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The product is going to get worse over time though... Asian women will become more demanding.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:12 AM
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I suspect they think you moved to asia because 95% of women are asian.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:11 AM
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It is literally nonsensical, but its intending meaning is obvious.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:10 AM
2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2c5v8IZNA
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:06 AM
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That's already the only way to keep the birthrate from plunging...
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:02 AM
1

I am Australian. I am a member of the Australian major conservative party. Many people in my party would associate with the democrats more than the republicans. I think both parties are awful, but there are some politicians whom I do like in the republican party. So I would probably be a republican in the states. I think that most Americans would probably be centre right by Australian Standards. The general consensus for Australian conservatives is that things like "medicare" which is our health…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 03:59 AM
1

I honestly think social education is the responsibility of parents. I think that schools should teach facts, and not opinions.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 03:52 AM
1

OK I will just make points to prevent wall of texting. Grammar =/= rules of language. It is one part of the whole thing. Grammar is also descriptive, and the rules are derives based on empirical study of the usage of native speakers. It can change, and does, naturally over time. Beowulf was written in old english. It is a substrate precursor of middle and modern English, while an older form of french is a largely lexical contributor. I could have talked about Shakespeare, but I wanted to make mo…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:29 AM
1

It didn't imply a weekly thing, but I can see why you thought that. Imply is too strong a word in this case, it was ambiguous.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:07 AM
1

They aren't that different... Centre right by Australian standards I would say.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:06 AM
1

I have heard the education system is significantly worse in norway compared to other scandinavian countries. Correct me if I am wrong?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:05 AM
1

Norway is pretty badly run and lives on oil money. This is what I heard from my Norwegian buddy.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:53 AM
1

As an Australian, I can tell you after 20 something years of economic growth, natural resources are better than good government.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:52 AM
3

They don't care about equal outcomes for both genders, they want better outcomes for women.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:51 AM
1

This is a much more mature view than put forward by most people on Nordic Countries. Additionally, the more social trend in these countries is recent beginning in the late 70's before which they were all very free market giving them a lot of wealth with which to grow their governments. Additionally they are all largely homogenous in terms of culture and ethnicity, which is a huge advantage they have over countries like the USA or Britain or France.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:49 AM
2

What do the swede words you used mean? Can you translate?
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:44 AM
0

Not speaking for ignorant me, I find people who identify as "atheists" or "agnostic atheists" to be hubristic and elitist.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:44 AM
2

The average american is probably centre right leaning. However there are a huge amount of very leftist Americans. It just so happens that being conservatives like hierarchies which makes them much more effective at winning elections and sticking together in spite of minor disagreements.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:42 AM
1

Mate, read a book on language. Dictionaries are not prescriptive, they are descriptive. Native language speakers are always correct in their usage. If what you are saying is true, then either language in general doesn't evolve, or the words "maths" and "herb" are the lone exceptions in all of English. Both implications of your statement are absurd. The former is ostensibly false, or we'd still be speaking the way beowulf was written, the absurdity of the latter is obvious.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:18 AM
1

I don't get a haircut every week, more like once every 2 or 3 months, nor do I buy razors or jeans or shoes every week... maybe a new set every 6 months. These are irregular expenses that cut into my savings, as my income does not cover them.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:09 AM
1

Is it implicit to visitors of this subreddit?
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:08 AM
1

My current girlfriend (although I don't know where that is going) has roughly twice as much income as I do, as she is living on a very generous government scholarship from her home country, and the Australian dollar recently took a dive, in particular against her home countries currency.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:05 AM
1

As I said, buying power not exchange rate. An Australian dollar in Australia buys about half what an American dollar buys in America. And you are nitpicking, as well as being wrong. Math and Maths are both correct.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:01 AM
3

Thats interesting. Ill keep that in mind. Cheers.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 01:10 PM
4

I suppose different people have different experiences. I remember my father encouraged me to "fight back" against other boys, but to never ever hit a girl.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 01:09 PM
6

I pay about 9k a year in rent. They are gillette, I don't know if they sell that packet everywhere. I hopefully will move to a lower rent place soon. Edit: I did math wrong, it's more like 15.5 k per year in terms of extrapolating from current weekly income, but I work only part of the year, but I have a different income already set up for a summer research project with the uni.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 11:28 AM
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I get 4 blade razors with about 8-10 in a packet. They last a while. I don't know how you live off of $7200 unless you live rurally, or don't have to pay rent. I can barely live without digging into my savings. every single week.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 11:03 AM
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As a university student who lives on 15k AUD a year, probably more like 7k in American dollars (buying power not exchange rate), $12 for razors represents a serious problem for my weekly budget. Not to mention when my jeans and my shoes wear out and they each cost a minimum of $30 to replace. Hair cuts are also a massive black hole. edit: I did math wrong, 15k not 12k edit: I dont buy $12 worth of razors a week, when I do buy them once every 6 or so weeks it is a problem for my weekly budget. My…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 10:10 AM
5

I would be surprised if SRS was able to program bots... I have never met a feminist with any, even rudimentary, technical skills.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 08:44 AM
5

Why is this downvoted...?
/r/MensRights18/08/13 08:31 AM
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As a child we are always told that as a little boy it is wrong to hit little girls, the silent implication is that it is then ok for girls to hit boys, as otherwise the adults would just tell us it is not ok to hit other people.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 08:31 AM
1

I think its more that she is a woman, and men often refuse to acknowledge being victims.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 08:14 AM
1

Ok let me rephrase, they probably have never put any thought into what feminism might mean, assuming they have heard the word even once in their entire lives.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:29 AM
1

So I can only rape with impunity if I force men to bugger me? That is disappointing.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:27 AM
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I don't see how... I am not claiming they are not "real feminists" I am saying they probably don't know what the word means.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 02:01 PM
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More that they seem like very low SES people, a group that typically is apathetic towards politics.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 12:26 PM
8

Wait, I can rape with impunity? Why... why didn't I know this... All this time I thought it was against the law to rape.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 06:30 AM
5

I doubt these particular girls care much about women's rights.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 06:28 AM
10

Can you give an example of a government complying due to a petition without a constitutional mandate to respond to said petition?
/r/MensRights16/08/13 09:37 AM
1

I doubt the court offered the plea because of the petition.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 09:33 AM
1

What kind of work do you do regarding policy? I think the most valuable thing I have learned being involved in politics, and especially branch level petty politics is the value of networking. The advantage people get from simply being known is pretty large I think.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 08:14 AM
1

I won't argue with you there.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 08:07 AM
1

Sure, at least you are honest.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:25 AM
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I will not have an official policy, sounds like political suicide to me. But it would be that of colour/gender blindness in terms of gov't policy.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:24 AM
2

I was referring mainly to the debate. Abbott isn't great at off the cuff kind of stuff. I don't think those gaffs are serious issues though, unless you believe in childish bully politics, which seems to be the rage with left leaning groups these days.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:22 AM
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I know what you mean. I am probably quite a lot younger than you, so I still don't know what to do in life, but I am working towards making politics one of those options.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:21 AM
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I guess I am just pretty open minded. I think that there is probably racism there, but it seems more like ethnic nationalism to me, which is not necessarily chauvanistic. He just values his own heritage and doesn't want it to disappear. Although the argument derailed pretty quickly. In my country for example, I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid if an indigenous Australian had a similar and loud attitude about indigenous people either not reproducing or reproducing with non indigenous people…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:23 AM
1

Rudd is a bit of a bandaid I reckon. His popularity is slipping faster and faster. He doesn't seem prime ministerial, and I think Tony Abbott does. I think Australians are warming up to him, and as awful as it is, it is at least somewhat a game of thrones rather than a game of seats.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:17 AM
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Cheers mate, though it'll be a few years away yet if ever. Living in Canberra isn't the best if you want to get into politics as a conservative.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:15 AM
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I am not an MRA, but I am a liberal party member, and I really dislike feminism. When I am prime minister ill give you a PM.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:39 AM
2

This isn't entirely true, but it isn't as important in federal elections. It does play a larger role in state and local elections.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:37 AM
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I understand the natural skepticism of "white rights" movements. I mean do you really think they are all racists? isn't that what feminists think of mens rights activists? I imagine a significant amount of people on that subreddit are just people sick of "reverse racism", the same way (but not to the same extent) that you are sick of misandry.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:18 AM
1

Common law courts are bound by the previous decisions of judges, you know, precedents. I am just questioning if attacking the court is fair, given what they had to work with. If your second claim is true that family courts routinely make autonomous sexist decisions then I suppose that is the courts fault.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:51 AM
1

Sure, but you are doing it to two groups for different reasons. If you said all men are bastards, and all women are bastards, that's not sexist just an inefficient statement. If you said all men are rapists and all women are heartshitters. That is two sexist statements that apply based on gender. The fact that both statements are sexist doesn't make them each not sexist, nor does it diminish the total sexism.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 04:47 AM
1

This is called malingering, and it gets people fired.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:37 PM
1

Yes there are state taxes, I have never heard of municipal income taxes. I imagine though that if one is paying federal income taxes, it is unlikely that they aren't paying state/local income tax aswell.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:31 PM
1

There are various consumption taxes etc, I meant income taxes. I don't know about the tax free threshhold in the US though.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:10 PM
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20%? 47% of Americans don't work. if only 10% of those not working are women, that is really impressive.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 11:04 AM
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I always thought he was borderline mentally disabled.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 11:02 AM
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To be fair on the court, they have to interpret the law as it is written, not do what is 'just' in every case.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 10:58 AM
1

I don't see how it's not sexist if its sexist towards everybody?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 10:04 AM
1

I think a good litmus test for sexism is gender swapping. If this was gender swapped it would be pretty outrageous. I agree with what you are saying about outrage. I am not outraged by it, it is silly, but I think this is pretty unambiguously sexist.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 12:45 AM
1

Do you know the joke in question. The woman says "Oh where are we going tonight" and louis narrates "To your death statistically". Which is extremely false, and I didn't really find the suggestion, that men are likely to kill women who get into cars with them, funny.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:55 PM
1

Your basic understanding of the English language won't get you too far into the intention of the message. You could just as easily interpret it as talking about melee combat. It doesn't say what a strong woman is, so it's up to interpretation though. It seems like a strong woman is a woman who can only be handled by a strong man. Maybe it's a woman who is violent? Maybe violent women can't be handled by weak men?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:02 PM
1

The fact that he suggests that men will, more likely than not, kill any women that get into a car alone with them is pretty sexist. I am sure he is joking, but I personally didn't appreciate it.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:31 PM
0

Yes, it's double sexist. I wouldn't have so much of a problem if he was saying something that is true. But he isn't.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:23 PM
1

I think his act about how women must be braver than men in order to go on a date because men are probably going to kill them is pretty offensive.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:19 PM
1

Louis CK is pretty sexist, I mean he is a comedian, but his act is pretty heavy on offensive generalizations about both sexes.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 02:35 PM
3

Such as fits.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 02:34 PM
6

How do you arrive at this interpretation?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 02:33 PM
1

Most people are pretty retarded when it comes to making consistent compelling logical and factual arguments. But I get your point.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:22 AM
1

What was their justification of that?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:21 AM
15

Is that context, being raised to believe that it is morally wrong for your victim to defend themselves, and having that same victim also hold that belief?
/r/MensRights11/08/13 04:59 PM
2

Atheists make a lot of logical fallacies in their arguments about religion, it is a two way street there, although the traffic may be a bit asymmetric.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 04:56 PM
1

Censorship requires at the very least the threat of violence.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 02:51 PM
0

I have never heard of WRM. Why would a women's rights movement not just call itself feminism for credibility? Feminism is in the strictest sense a movement for furthering the rights of women.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 05:02 PM
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Mathematical research papers are often flawless. Just pointing out you have made an absolute statement yourself, which is false. [–]eggilicious 5 points 6 hours ago Also beware of talking in absolutes. No research is flawless and most people throwing the 'facts' around aren't capable of properly critiquing a study and I would say that most dont even read more than the abstract.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 03:48 PM
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As a 14 year old kid, you should really just focus on your school work and just think and read about issues without getting particularly involved. Being political at your age is a surefire way to get yourself alienated from your peers.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 03:46 PM
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I think feminism is pretty accurately described as "Womens rights movement", as this is what their goal is, more rights for women, equal rights is a different thing. it is MRM/MRA that is an insulting misnomer.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 03:44 PM
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ok sure, yea, well I don't disagree with you. So let's all have lunch?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 01:10 PM
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"morally speaking" there are two agents. They interact with one another. If hypothetically the victim could have done something to prevent the crime she is responsible, because she has not taken precautions which is irresponsible. The actual perpetrator is morally responsible, which is different, because he actually chose to commit a crime, rather than chose not to prevent it. This argument is predicated on the victim actually being able to prevent a crime. If someone breaks into your house and …
/r/MensRights06/08/13 07:49 AM
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Well you can't have something that is neither conventional or unconventional, there is going to be a convention, you can't get rid of that. My question was more about, if people act the same way, how would we know that freedom from gender roles had been achieved.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 07:40 AM
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"Victim Blaming" is a fallacy that arises from confusing blame and responsibility. The perpetrator is to blame and sometimes the victim could have been more responsible and avoided being victimised.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 03:56 PM
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I don't think heteronormativity is an issue unless you are particularly whiny. I live on campus, campus life is very leftonormative, I don't identify on the left politics spectrum so I find it very exclusionary, but I don't whine, because the vast majority of university students are lefties, so that makes sense.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:22 PM
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No, simply that they are the vast vast vast majority of cases, and so much of the attention given to people who "don't indentify within the gender binary", is disproportionate given their incredible minority status.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:19 PM
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That is a gross oversimplification of gender roles. I think it would be closer approximated by describing the role of men to be the physical provider and protecter, as well as the one who makes progress forward for the family as a whole, while the mothers role is to manage and maintain the provisions of the man as well as to nurture and process. That's just how I see traditional gender roles. My view about this is somewhere in between traditional gender roles and total egalitarianism.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:17 PM
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What if people tend to naturally desire the roles that society had previously imposed upon them? How would you determine if freedom from gender roles had been achieved in this case?
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:14 PM
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Care to provide sources supporting your argument that women are attracted to power? I imagine that is correct, I would just like to see sources.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:11 PM
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I appreciate your argument but it is incomplete. Why would game designers make male characters attractive when until recently males have been considered the almost exclusive audience of games, in particular fighting games? Profession inappropriate hair has been around since before home consoles were commonplace. Think original arcade fighting games. What other reasons would game designers have for portraying characters with the hair styles they do? Probably in order to be better able to recognis…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:01 AM
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Superficially maybe, but to most people 4 quarters is worth less than a $1 note because the quarters are annoying to carry around. So it depends on your frame of reference. You might say "The nominal value of these sets of legal tender is equal", sure, but overall they are not equal, and having one set of characteristics be equal does not imply that the entire object is equal.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:48 AM
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I find it ironic that a feminist comic mentions false equivalence. Saying men and women are equal is an equivalence fallacy. While I support policies that are genderblind, to not acknowledge that men and women are not exactly the same, and therefore also not equal, is a false equivalence. note: A lack of equality does not imply a higher or lower value for either gender, that is not what equality means. Equality simply means "X is the same as Y" or "X is Y" . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_eq…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:47 PM
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Does Nathan Drake or He-man ever have sex with women?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 12:19 PM
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I meant, what is the difference between male and female power fantasies that makes male power fantasies bad and female power fantasies not bad, according to the feminists? What is their reasoning?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 11:15 AM
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I think at the very least it is an accessible (if unequally accessible) oligarchy system. Joe Everyman can become a part of the oligarchy, so that would make it an oligocracy, rather than an oligarchy.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:35 AM
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I don't think such an argument would ever convince a feminist to change their mind. It is not a logical worldview, it is an emotional one. If a feminist acknowledges that she is actually privileged, then she has to account for her lack of success in life in comparison to other men and women who simply accepted what was required of them and did the smart and hard work that was required of them instead of complaining (that the government won't subsidise their exclusive access to most kinds of cont…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:31 AM
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What is different between male and female power fantasies?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:07 AM
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I think most people who don't have a particular interest in gender politics (or didn't go to a single sex girls school where it is explicitly taught), have never heard of the "patriarchy". My mother is a self proclaimed feminist and has an idea similar to the idea of patriarchy but has never come across the idea in the way that it is taught in universities (she didn't go to university).
/r/MensRights04/08/13 04:27 AM
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I think that is a mischaracterisation of soft science, but I agree in general.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 04:23 AM
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Australians don't have much interest in politics in general so we don't get these words thrown around on news programs and we don't have more than a handful of political talkshows, and the ones we do have are rather sombre and boring if you aren't up to date with politics. This is a long way to answer your question but bare with me. In Australia we have 2 major parties and one large minor party and a series of smaller parties who only have power in the senate or local governments. The 2 major pa…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:34 AM
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I don't count psychology. Because I do not think their methods are sufficiently rigorous. I think they do the best they can given their subject matter and come out sometimes with accurate and interesting results, it's just not as consistent as say physics, or biology. There is also documented bias in psychology papers toward agreement with hypothesis. There was a study done that showed that 70% of psychology papers had conclusions in agreement with the hypothesis, compared to around 50% for fiel…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:13 AM
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Sure I can accept labelling it as a "soft science". I just think it is inappropriate to put chemistry (for example) in the same box as sociology given that chemistry comes up with consistent, reliable and accurate results whereas sociology does not. Not to say that their results are never accurate, just that it is not dependably the case.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:10 AM
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Is that the wikipedia page definition? I think we can have a discussion as adults as to what constitutes a science and what does not and whether sociology meets those requirements. note that when I say it is not a science, I don't mean that it is an invalid discipline, just that it is not a scientific one.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:15 AM
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Makes more sense than paying them more...
/r/MensRights03/08/13 05:07 AM
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There is no need to be a dick. How would you define left and right?
/r/MensRights03/08/13 05:07 AM
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Being sick of jokes is also rape.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 04:55 AM
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Sociology isn't a science... As far as I can tell semantic fallacy (argument from confusion about the meanings of words) is fairly common.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 04:54 AM
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We don't have liberals in Australia. Here the word 'liberalism' refers to a centre-right ideology of freer markets and personal responsibility.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:58 PM
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Not really a huge problem for people... our habitat isn't being destroyed.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:57 PM
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Post scarcity won't ever happen, there is no reason to produce things that aren't scarce...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:55 PM
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In the short term parents taking leave is bad for the economy, in the long run a higher population is good for the economy, another worker/entrepeneur/consumer...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:55 PM
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Left right is difficult to pin down. It is very vague. People generally agree on what is left and what is right but there is no hard and fast way to determine it. edit: if you can provide a solid heuristic or way to determine unambiguously leftism or rightism I will be very impressed.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:51 PM
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Another major function (and this is a key driver in the Aus economy) is that the money gets put into the financial industry as capital that can be moved around and grown and then paid out to the retirees. This is why the finance industry is Australia's third biggest (iirc), after mining and agriculture.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:46 PM
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Maybe raise the retirement age for women then...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:43 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:37 PM
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It absolutely is, because unfortunately cause and effect are not always cut and dry and factual. So attributing cause and effect are open to bias. I talk about cause and effect because bias is most commonly present in arguments along the lines of 'X' caused 'Y', Y is bad so lets get rid of X. You may attempt to nail down bias, but you will have a hard time if you are invested in any particular side of an argument.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 03:46 AM
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Are you talking about all older people, or just a subset?
/r/MensRights31/07/13 03:42 AM
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I think the better conclusion is that older people have a lot more to offer than we tend to think. I am always astounded by people who remember living through things I read about in school.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 01:27 PM
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This is a core tenent of my philosophy.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 01:26 PM
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I made a mistake and meant to reply to /u/takeshyperbolelitera.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 01:09 PM
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How do you define right wing? Is legalising marijuana right wing? I guess it must be because Stossel is as "far right wing as they come".
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:40 PM
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It depends on your views. If yours differ from his of course he is biased, whereas another reporter who agrees with your ascendant completely unbiased and true account of things may appear (rightfully) to be completely unbiased in your eyes, but perhaps still biased in the eyes of other less noble and correct people.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:34 PM
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Like it or not conservatives and especially libertarians are the natural allies of the MR movement. The conservative worldview opposes the unnecessary interventions that have lead to women being in their currently black letter privileged position, as well as having championed womens suffrage and the civil rights of african americans in the past, they have a good track record on legitimate rights issues. The libertarian worldview opposes any interventions and is very much against such things as e…
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:29 PM
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Surely a quick audit of birth records would be all that is needed...
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:42 AM
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I would say that at that point its more about supporting the child than the mother.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:41 AM
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In Australia we have "Parent or Guardian", don't you have this in the states?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:40 AM
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I love the "end of white men" article, because they will never, ever , ever let us lay down the white man's burden... ever.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 02:34 PM
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Men get it much much less though. I have never heard of a specific case of a man getting breast cancer (although I know it happens), and I would bet that most people are not aware that men can get it.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 02:23 PM
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Do feminists have some concept of "toxic femininity", maybe the femininity that leaches resources and abuses sympathy, or trades sex for resources? Rather than the caring, nurturing femininity which is actually useful for other people?
/r/MensRights15/07/13 03:08 AM
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This is true, I guess I misinterpreted it.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 02:16 AM
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That does not contradict my statement.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 04:31 AM
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That's not true, consumption does not need to be driven by dissatisfaction. However it's a good marketing ploy. You can buy a new car, without needing one, being fully aware that it will not satisfy you emotionally, and that it is simply older than your other car. Same with makeup or sexy underwear, or gross food.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 05:08 AM
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Maybe she was attacked before by dudes who yelled things, and when she said "say it again" they raped her, and her daughter and her mother, with their humongous barbed phalli.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 03:09 PM
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In fairness the woman claims she didn't hear what they said.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 02:21 PM
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Everyone faces violence... The circumstances and the trends are different, but violence against people is the problem.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 02:20 PM
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Yea I suppose we used terms rather non specifically. Why are there leftist MRA's, leftism is antithetical to Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 11:46 AM
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Liberalism everywhere else is in line with Men's Rights issues. Most Men's rights issues come down to not giving women special rights, which is in line with classical liberalism, such as under Reagan, Thatcher and Malcolm Fraser(Liberal Party prime minister of Australia in the 70's). I mean modern american liberalism is basically not liberalism, but a benevolent kind of statism predicated on elitist notions of the rich man's burden.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 05:06 AM
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I don't know why there are liberal MRA's, modern american liberalism is the antithetical to men's rights.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:11 PM
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Australian labor party also has quotas, but they go both ways supposedly. its a 40/40/20 system, the 20 is open to both men and women. I thought it was a relevant factoid, although i think all quota systems are sexist. There was a local branch board election (for labor) in which the only female candidates were given places on the board (a 5 member board) without a vote.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:06 PM
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I don't plan of ever allowing my children to have McDonalds, at least until they develop more self control than I had as a child.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:54 AM
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That particular McDonalds is named 'Greg'.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:53 AM
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Was it a specific group of women intentionally doing this to fathers, or was it just some women sometimes doing it and it became a problem.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:50 AM
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