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The only time "no" doesn't mean "no" is when there's a pre-planned, agreed upon safeword that means "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:25 PM
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C'est la vie, my dude. Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:12 PM
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According to my anecdotal evidence, no. Most people who I've heard of who can't get laid tend to set their sights unrealistically high. Aside from that, a lot of guys in that situation tend to show a weird hostility towards women they find unattractive. And I'm a guy, and I've got a fairly wide range, but I wouldn't go as far as most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:21 AM
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This ain't it, chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:18 AM
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I'd either make a sandwich, or I'd go to the kitchen, sneak out the window, buy a sandwich, claim that I made it, and dispose of any evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:02 AM
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Certified Undersexed Citizen Sponsorship Subsidy No sarcasm; that is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 11:59 PM
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Suicide bombers want 72 virgins. I do not. Sounds like a hassle. Unrelated, if that's all you had to say, why come back into the dialogue? What's it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 10:49 PM
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It depends on the particular woman, so I guess my general answer is "yes". Being blackmailed into career sex isn't an automatic disqualifier for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 04:44 AM
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That's because you are probably in the idiot range (IQ85 - 115) You don't really know how IQ works. But even you have to admit that women just give far less fucks about intellectual matters than your male peers. No I don't. And you are only one step away from getting cucked by some higher value male, always. This is an insecurity that you have, and I don't. And my life is better off for it. Your core beliefs are naive. Yeah, well, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man. They try to view women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 02:22 PM
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Being attracted to 20-year-olds isn't the same as explicitly wanting to bang 17-year-olds, and being attracted to adult women is not a weird fetish. Yikes, dude. Yikes. And I'm not clicking your links. I'm just straight-up not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 02:16 PM
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What do you mean equal? Someone whose intelligence is in the ballpark of mine. Someone responsible, intelligent, and emotionally secure enough to partake in my life and broaden my own. Someone who I don't need to take to the senior prom. Women are looking for higher value men than themselves. Men can't find their "equal"s. Yeah, well, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man. Relationships are built on hormones making you think that you are so lovey-dovey with a person. Very, very few relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:12 PM
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I went to school with a superhot chick. She became one of those 0 value, trashy celebrities a few years later. Now, in her late twenties, she is outright disgustingly hideous. Not kidding. All that proves is that it's a better idea to date adults who have likely developed into the people that they're going to remain for the rest of their lives, rather than patrolling for 17 year olds whose futures are unknown. Age is not kind to women's looks, and since women tend to almost exclusively capitaliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:05 PM
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Yeah, when we got a world leader in America who repeatedly makes dangerously obtuse statements about the media being the "enemy", I can't argue against major threats to Freedom of Speech as we know it. Fair point; I'll give you that one; the President really is talking mad shit about the First Amendment, but thankfully he hasn't actually done anything. That kinda thing does indeed worry me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:49 PM
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Okay, what are you afraid of losing now then? Convince me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:51 PM
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What liberties do you want that you don't have now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:29 PM
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I walk a few of my female co-workers to the garage at night. Some guys are normal and trustworthy, some are fucking nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 02:01 PM
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You're not wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 01:51 PM
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"Live free or die hard" is less attractive when you're dying hard. If you're honest with yourself, are you really okay with someone stealing all your stuff, beating you up, and shooting you just so he looks cool in front of his friends? Because that's the risk you take when you throw rules to the wind. It won't be a fair, "pistols at dawn", "put up your dukes", "let's have a sporting joust" scenario either. Some guy will form a militia, horde some resources, and carve out a swath of territory. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 04:12 AM
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cuter Define "cute". I don't really add that to the list of adjectives that turn me on. If you mean "more neotenous", I prefer women with mature faces. Plenty of cute 24+ girls anyway. more spontaneous Sounds like a pain in the ass. I usually have to forced-laugh at "random humor". more fertile I ain't lookin' for kids. and have less baggage Baggage can make you wiser, more experienced, more aware of what you want, and less prone to drama. I want to be a reasoned choice, not an experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 04:02 AM
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Commenting on a teenager being legal is clearly sexualizing the teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 11:17 PM
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Of course I understand the analogy. I was responding to what you said. Trying to test people like that is just revealing of the tester's preferences. Unless they're talking to someone oblivious as a wall, they might as well be shouting that they like 17 year olds. Commenting on a teenager's legality is douche-chilly and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 10:35 PM
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It is the same thing. Why would you comment on her legality if that wasn't on your mind? What other motive could there possibly be to bring that up in a discussion? It's not just transparent; it's magnifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 10:19 PM
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OP is 27. That's clearly not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 10:11 PM
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Yes it is. People despise the adult goon in the leather jacket, waiting for his girlfriend in the high school parking lot. People side-eye the man in the office who chats about the 17 year old popstar "finally becoming legal". People cringe at the dude who always knows the age of consent in every state. They're called creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:48 PM
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No. It's bizarre and unconfortable to talk about teens being attractive, and which teens want to bang which teens. Teens should be having that debate, not adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:31 PM
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Thanks! Glad to finally get some like-minded feedback in this brutal thread. :]
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 09:19 PM
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I have no opinion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:07 PM
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It's weird to acknowledge those feelings by discussing or acting on them. Be attracted to whatever you want, but as an adult, there are social consequences to voicing your thoughts or acting out desires. If you care a lot about your right to date 17 year olds, the consequence is me thinking you're weird. Or maybe also jail time, or an angry dad beating you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:00 PM
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I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:58 PM
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Some fish are throwbacks. I can't sear, bake, or batter-fry a minnow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:37 PM
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I don't know if that's true, but I fail to see the relevance. An adult refusing to associate/socialize with unrelated teens is not the same as an adult trying to bang teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:17 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:49 PM
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Who gives a shit what a teen says? Don't listen to them, interact with them, or fuck them. Just let them do teen stuff and mind your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:47 PM
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Yeah, but most modern adult people share my adult value. "Let's fuck teens" is not popular or endorsed in Western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:16 PM
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I think there's no shortage of attractive, mentally developed adult women, and when a grown man acts as an apologist for a lifestyle of patrolling for teens, it's odd. I don't live in their head, but it's a warning sign that they may not be a good dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:13 PM
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You are either on the plantation, or a woman. Never you mind where or what I am. Mind your business. Faithful, loyal, respecting. What are you even talking about? Those are just adjectives that you didn't apply to anything. Just looking at history, there isn't much variation in how the genders approached relationships or love. Yes there is. Plenty of societies didn't even have a cohesive view on gender itself. There are certain societies today that have third, fourth, and fifth genders. Greeks i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:12 AM
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On the contrary, I regularly post on MGTOW. That's my exact point. You're making my exact point. Almost everything you have written can quite easily be turned right back at you. No it can't. You are on the plantation, and blind because of it. No I'm not. Men are trash, just like women. Men may be more capable of love, but that doesn't mean they will pursue it properly. What isn't trash, from your perspective? But that doesn't change the fact that a man saying 'love' and a woman saying 'love' are…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 04:36 AM
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Surely you can feel yourself making this all up, and drawing the connections that aren't there. I'm talking sense to you right now. Have a little clarity and think about it. The marketplace, science, and millions upon millions of personal stories all disagree with the conclusion that you've drawn. Your experience, your opinion, and your fetishization of men being somehow better at love is not reflected by reality. And that's a good thing. The people who reinforce the ideas that you're clinging t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 04:19 AM
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She's not your "peer". You're twenty-seven.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 04:08 AM
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Lock up your daughters. No, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 04:01 AM
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You don't know that. You're just saying that because you're sad. Plenty of women fall in love with guys who are objectively "losers" by the standard you've set. And plenty of men only fall in love for looks, and are perfectly fine with breaking it off and moving to the next one. Plenty of women fall in love with dollar signs, and plenty of men fall in love for noble reasons. There's a shit-ton of nuance and circumstances and situational differences in every facet of life. To say that "women can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:59 AM
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Even if we're only going based on anecdotal evidence, there's billions of pounds of evidence against your theory. Women fall in love every day and talk about it. You could find a million stories about it on reddit alone. Plus, the free market supports the romanticization of romance. There's big money in the fact that women fall in love. Weddings, Valentines Day, Flowers, all that jazz is female-centric for a reason; women care way more about love than guys tend to. If women were incapable of lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:53 AM
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I don't usually go out of my way to say "not all men", because it sounds supremely douche-chilly, but I've gotta say it here. It is very abnormal for a grown man to be turned on by a middle schooler, and the moment that guy admits it, he's out. Forsaken by friends, estranged from family, shunned by community. It's widely known that pedophiles are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:42 AM
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It kinda implies that you don't have the emotional security to be partners with an equal, or that you're living in the past, or you don't care how your actions will effect a younger, more vulnerable mind going forward. Relationships are built on trust and respect. I am not on the same level as an average 17 year old girl, so I typically do not trust or respect them. I know that sounds mean and harsh, but they're kids to me. And I frown upon countries where girls are married off, and women can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 01:02 AM
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I'd assume it was my kid by default. If she offered a paternity test, I'd be jarred, confused, and suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:53 AM
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There's no shortage of stunning women in their twenties and thirties. There's probably a shortage of men 24+ willing to admit that they're interested in 17 year olds. There's a reason those guys are looked down upon; even dudes who feel that way usually don't pursue it because they don't want to be paraiahs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:51 AM
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He still probably shouldn't discuss his boner-motives for a 17 year old celebrity on a public forum. Read some of OP's posts in this thread. He's laying out some really detailed, personal shit. It would behoove him to keep it in his brain. Hell, I even think you're going too far. You don't talk about 17 year olds and below. It's a social rule that you just follow under the threat of looking like a creep; it's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:57 PM
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Yeah, but not this. Sometimes you gotta stop joking and talk sense to someone, right? It's a CMV, and someone needs to convince OP and those like him to keep this kinda stuff to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:43 PM
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Most people don't do it because there's nothing in it for them, and it's socially caustic. Nothing is worth being "that guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:41 PM
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I'm not going to click that, and I'm largely unwilling to study pedophilia. Why are you bringing 14 year olds up if it's not even in the study you found? How come you're suddenly so mad at me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:27 PM
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It's also a CMV post. My alteration to this guy's opinion is that a grown man should never discuss wanting to fuck a 17 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:23 PM
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I don't think that's true. Even if it is, why are you advocating and studying and carrying on about this? You're making yourself look ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:03 PM
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It's still considered odd to carry on about this subject like it truly matters. Being passionate about your right to bang 17 year olds is odd behavior, and revealing of the fact that the person thinks about it a lot. Most people never bring it up, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 10:13 PM
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You can't be shamed for your thoughts. If you think this girl is attractive, then you can't help the fact that you feel that way. But you can select the things you talk about, the ideas you espouse, and the things you do. That's what you're being shamed for. If you like something weird, stop justifying it to people. Just shut up about it, keep it private, and don't act on it. That's my advice; don't volunteer this information. Full disclosure; I think it's weird that you feel this way and care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 09:09 PM
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Too subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:29 PM
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Yeah. I don't have a specific ideal, but I should find her somewhat attractive. I like someone who has a good sense of humor. Bonus points if they're a good communicator and they can riff with me. If they don't get me in that regard, it turns me off to the idea of a relationship. The most basic requirement is that she's appropriate in social situations; if she tantrums in public, or doesn't care if her actions bother people, that's a colossal red flag to me. Basically, if you're good humored and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:07 PM
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Why put all that energy into being that way, though? Neither of you could possibly enjoy that interaction. What you just described sounds like an utterly worthless use of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:28 AM
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Not particularly. I'm a generally friendly guy, and it's never held me back in terms of my boner-motives. I've never tried the whole "bad boy" method (it wouldn't work for me anyway), but if I can get a girl by being a douche, then she isn't really the girl I want. Doormats aren't attractive to me; I tend to like people who call me on my bullshit. If all you are is "nice" with nothing else to contribute though, you're probably in trouble. It helps to live well, but you've gotta make effort in ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:10 AM
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That logic doesn't really track. Just treat any variation of no as no, and move on. Otherwise, you're part of the problem that incentivises the dishonesty that you're whinging about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 09:06 PM
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Yes, raising a human being is more demanding than sharing your living-space and intimacy with a peer. The jury's out; everyone agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:15 AM
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If it was super important to her, I'd consider it. I worry about elective surgery though, and I might try to talk her into a healthier alternative if I could. If the mother of my kids died over a flatter stomach, I'd never forgive myself or the surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:02 AM
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I went on a lengthy diet and lost a bunch of weight. I've been getting noticed by women more often. I was just doing it for me, but it's been pretty great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:59 PM
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If she didn't tell me, I'd be pretty annoyed. Granted, it's hers to spend and I'd respect her decision, but not telling me implies an uncomfortable lack of trust. I'd tell her if the money dropped into my lap. Communication is important, and I'd need an audience for my victory dance anyway. If there was nothing especially important that I, we, or she needed, I'd split it with her. Giving her $7,500 is some pretty hype husband behavior, if you ask me. I'm not married though, so what would I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:59 AM
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I think part of it is that they don't want their partner to realize that their moves are weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:58 AM
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Yeah, pretty much sums it up. Breaking people's balls about how say you are won't get you anywhere meaningful, really. Gotta get up to get down!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 01:05 AM
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Yeah, it was brutal, but there was really nothing I could have (or even should have) done. If I were to be diplomatic and say "I didn't need a reason, and that was sorta hurtful. Just 'no' would have been fine" she might've flipped it on me, or roasted me even worse. I was pretty insecure back then (as evidenced by the fact that her calling me short made me believe it in that moment). She turned out to be generally mean; she broke off all the friendships that we had in common, so I stopped hangi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:58 PM
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An internal feeling that you suck in some regard is exactly what insecurity is. If only in some way, you're admitting to being insecure about your height. That's cool; we all got insecurities. Not for nothin', if you put on some platform shoes and disguise them as nikes with paper mache and paint, who's really going to notice? Your tall friend probably couldn't see them because he's too high up, and your short friend won't rat you out because you're his superior. I'm just bustin' your balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:00 PM
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But imagine if he did. I'd be a fuckin' legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:51 PM
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Yeah, that's true, but in the common parlance certain things are considered crazy talk. If you bringing up certain things makes it clear that you think about them a lot. Like, for example, someone who constantly talks about Jewish people, or Muslims, or the Earth being flat, or in this place's case, Feminists. It's fine to talk about those things to excess here, because this is the forum for that sort of discussion. But when you bring that shit into real life, it raises eyebrows and burns bridge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:48 PM
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I know, right? I never considered myself short, but for some reason is crushed my confidence. I wish I could say I had a rad zinger after that, but I just got all mad and had absolutely no comeback, and didn't want to start a bitter argument anyway. Afterwards we never talked, and she ended up burning the social bridges connecting us. I was pretty glad not to be in a room with her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:43 PM
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Naw I don't believe women should get preferential treatment. Eh. I figured if I was going to try to change your view, I should go big. Well, I'm bored of this. Have a good one, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:26 PM
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Speaking as a husband and biological father of 3, I am above having to care. Whoa what? What do you even give a fuck about this then? Also I find it funny that you never give women this silly advice while they're bashing men. How would you know? You're not my shadow. Maybe I have. I haven't, but I also don't know any women who "bash men". Hell, first I would have to get you to realize that male bashing exists. Of course it exists. There will always be men and women in your life who refuse to hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:14 PM
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Maybe you guys are onto something with people not sympathizing with men, because the thought of you staring down at your best buddy and thinking "you're inferior" as your bigger friend thinks the same thing is hilarious. It's like a nesting-doll of condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:01 PM
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I do all the time. Ah shit. Okay, bro, if you take nothing else away from this conversation, please learn this: Do not do that. Do not talk to people you know about this. They're probably already side-eyeing you. You are never ever ever going to get laid that way. I'm telling you this with complete, 100% confidence. I usually qualify what I'm saying, or downplay my intelligence, but I know for a fact that you're damaging your social life by saying these things to people. People probably have tro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 01:46 PM
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Look at it this way; would you espouse any of these viewpoints publically? I'm perfectly comfortable being quoted IRL; I haven't said anything outlandish. I think maybe you're projecting your own contempt in order to rationalize, or disassociate from, or just ignore frustrations that are too painful to face. But I ain't you, and being an armchair psychologist is douche chilly, so what would I know, right? All I know is this stuff you're saying sounds like crazy talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 01:26 PM
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Some have the decorum to hide it, true. You don't actually think they're all consciously doing that, do you? It's far fetched enough to believe that they're doing it at all. What you're implying makes no sense when you actually think about it. And I didn't even think about it for very long; the moment I grokked the idea you were communicating, it was farcical upon impact. Most people don't even actually think about gender politics in their daily lives, so what are the odds of all women carrying …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:22 PM
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It is the cause of why so many men can't get laid, but the two are still separate. But you're not saying they're separate; you're saying there's a causal relationship. And I'm saying there kinda is, for good reason. Being down on your luck and sad generally makes for a bad partner; a horrible one, oftentimes, since some of those dudes will start taking her company for granted and begin lashing out. You can never, ever expect a relationship to fix your life. You gotta fix your life to find a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:50 AM
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Women outright mock short men. There was a woman who did that to me once. We were kinda getting along, and I asked if she wanted to hang out sometime, and she said no. I was going to leave it at that, but she qualified with "I'm not into manlets". I'm 5'11" but it was still sorta hurtful at the time. I didn't need or ask for a reason. Yeesh. But you can't wig out and hate women just because one maliciously breaks your balls for not being an inch taller like God should have intended. Certain peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:38 AM
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Well, you could answer the questions rather than flipping the table and saying that your opponent is "incapable". Aside from that, the viewpoint you're espousing makes no sense. Humans don't just run out of oxytocin. That's not how biology works. It's continuously synthesized using nutrients that you get from eating and stuff (or something). Baggage is an individual, mental concept; not a physiological law that makes girls icky (unless it's an STD; stay safe yo). I'm almost certain that the hypo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:03 AM
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You're clearly deflecting, yo. That kinda hints at a lack of confidence in your position. Defend your point or bow out and reevaluate; if a debate comes down to this, it's synonymous with a white flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:44 AM
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It seems like a very weird and condescending version of respect that leverages perceived (often made up) limitations to achieve success. My actual answer is "nah".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 07:58 AM
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You've said that women are "importing Muslims". You used that as a talking point in two separate threads, unprompted. You sound exactly like an anti-vaxxer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 07:54 AM
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But you're off by six years. He's right; your example doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:53 AM
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Not everyone wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:47 AM
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No. I've only received one picture like that from a significant other, but I've kept it entirely private. That'd be a colossal betrayal of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:51 PM
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Aside from your soliloquy not being my experience at all, what about the mountains and mountains of man-made media that reinforces the stereotype of women jumping a guy's bones just for being nice? There's a lot of TV and video games out there that perpetuate a warped perspective of how attraction works. Blaming it all on anecdotal evidence of matriarchs giving shitty advice seems awfully reductionist when there could be a billion different causes and factors. It seems odd that you'd immediately…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:22 PM
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I'm a man, but sure. A trans woman is a woman in my eyes, by virtue of the fact that she says she perceives herself as a woman. I've known a few trans men, and I treated them like men and referred to them as men. It was their preference, so I obliged. I don't understand the male pushback against that courtesy. Were they bullshitting me somehow? I don't know what the big deal is. If she wants to be a woman, have at. And frankly, if I met a trans woman that I found attractive, and she felt some ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:08 PM
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I'd probably save my wife. I know she'd probably bust my balls for it, and it'd haunt me for the rest of my days, but when I weigh the options it seems like the more tolerable decision. I don't envy this guy one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:52 AM
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Nah. I like my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:40 AM
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Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 12:06 AM
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Depends on the partner and the sacrifice. I'd dive in the way of a dangerous projectile, or give up some bone marrow if I was a match, but some things you just can't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 11:58 PM
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Yeah. She was alright; kind of a ball-breaker and had a few mental problems, but she was fun, interesting, and she was on my wavelength most of the time. She introduced me to a lot of new interests and hobbies. I'd probably do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 11:57 PM
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I'm a male feminist and I've never been particularly afraid to make an approach. I just did it in a way that was respectful of the person I was trying to get to know/have sex with. Sex and respect aren't mutually exclusive. If you act normally, you're probably not going to "offend them with [your] sexuality". I learned that as a kid; my dad taught me to be nice to girls, and trial and error taught me that there's no harm trying (as long as trying isn't harmful in and of itself). I don't think yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 11:45 PM
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This is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:36 AM
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Yeah, sure. I could still have friendships and hobbies, and I could live a life of pleasant solitude without any romantic regret. Seems worth a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:32 AM
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You're fucking with me. This is outrageous. I'm offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:27 AM
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I'm not being adversarial. I'm giving you advice in good faith. I'd advise you to use more romantic language. Surely you've noticed by now; the way you put it paints you in a very negative light. When I tried to grab her in a sexual way she grabbed my hand and forcefully threw it away from her, twice. Like that. I chugged a beer and gave her another. Downright questionable. Honestly I was getting kind of pissed off about it. What's with the anger? Jeezus, man. came out and was a bit more forcefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:20 AM
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Sexy. I don't really know what "cute" means, but "sexy" paints a much clearer, more appealing picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:56 PM
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That's a really dark story, man. Kudos on having a happy married life, but you should really workshop that particular memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:43 PM
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No is just "no" in my mind. I don't like to play games when it comes to consent; if I get a "no" in any context, then sex is off the table. Even if it's a "cat and mouse" game where she wants me to be persistent, I'm not into that. I'm not the best at reading people who are being indirect, and I generally walk away from stuff easily, so them's the brakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:37 PM
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For example, it is widely known that women are awarded 2 out of every 3 college degrees. I didn't even know that. Don't you think that speaks to the fact that it isn't the feminist movement that's failing men? Maybe it's the fact that men's issues need to be televised better. What the Men's Rights movement needs isn't to be babysat by the Feminist Movement; it needs to get its shit together. I'd totally be onboard with a Men's Rights movement if it wasn't run by bitter, racist, sexist, keyboard-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:28 PM
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Women have fathers and brothers and male friends, and yet they're not sympathetic to problems that don't affect them directly, as pointed out by the initial comment I was responding to. Which women? Just all of 'em? And what problems? Is it possible that these women who "don't care" simply aren't aware of or exposed to said problems, or don't realize that they're gendered issues to begin with? Men are increasingly waking up to the fact that perhaps their mothers and sisters and female friends ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:17 PM
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Because they have moms and sisters and female friends, or they're just generally sympathetic to problems that don't affect them directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:07 PM
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For the same reason chefs aren't particularly harried about farming, or a fan of Fist of the North Star may not know anything about Pokemon. A feminist is most likely concerned with subsets of problems that affect women. Instead of focusing on an activist being unconcerned about issues outside their sphere of awareness, just start, join, or question a movement that actually cares about and has time for Men's Rights issues. Activism is a passion project for many people. Derailing your agenda for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:04 PM
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Nah. If I was, then they didn't say it to me. If I was, I'd evaluate my behavior and see where I went wrong, or if they were just mistaken in their perception. If they were mistaken, then I'd just cut contact and stay away from that particular person. If they actively shame me, I'd make it clear that I want nothing to do with them and leave it at that. It's not like I can stop 'em; they're just talking, after all. That doesn't mean I have to put up with bullshit, though; I'd just take the high r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 04:36 PM
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Indeed. If the partner isn't into it, then it feels humiliating and desperate. I've never had regular sex with a partner, but if I get no feedback, I'm out of there. My ego doesn't need the hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 01:30 AM
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Libertarianism doesn't even work in governance. Viewing an inherently emotional relationship as transactional probably won't work in practice either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 01:26 AM
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I'm an adult with no children. I don't give a fuck what fifteen year olds do with their time; it's none of my business. The rule of law is at least partially meant to protect children from scumbags. Power or not, you can't do whatever you like to people, especially those who aren't old enough to advocate for themselves or consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 08:50 PM
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A man of Kevin Spacey's standing should have the social grace and empathy not to fuck around with a teenage boy. Doing that ruined my opinion of him. Don't call fifteen year olds "slutty". What the fuck, dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:46 PM
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I mistyped. I meant to say "...for the same reason some men want to be sociopaths." My bad. My general point is that sociopathy is glamourized in literature and entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:57 AM
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I think some women like sociopaths for the same reason some men want to be sociopaths. They romanticize the idea of sociopaths being cool and mysterious, and forget about all the reasons that sociopaths are dangerous. Edit: Mistyped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:12 PM
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Mmk. They get what they want, presuming you're good at sex, and you get what you want, presuming you're not existentially tortured about the whole thing. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:02 PM
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It impacts you because the playing field is different for women than you. Okay, well they live in their world, and I'm in mine. The playing field is different by virtue of the fact that I'm me and they're them. Looking into someone else's bowl and deciding they have more than you is kinda gouache. That's what should concern you, the fact that you would be okay to get rebounds. Well yeah; I'm potentially the second, fifth, tenth, or whatever numberth choice by virtue of the fact that they've had …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:53 PM
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Some people are actually just legitimately creepy though. Not every kid who gets called creepy is a well-intentioned, relatable li'l homie with a spectrum disorder and goodwill in his heart. Being creepy is a legitimate concern, and something that men should avoid when talking to women. I'm not flexing nuts every day to avoid being creepy, but there are clearly some things you shouldn't say or do, and a lot of those things are kinda obvious. I feel bad for people with mental illnesses who are mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:44 PM
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There are some things we can all agree are creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:41 PM
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I wouldn't even think to ask a father for his permission, and if I was in love, I wouldn't respect his answer if he said "no" anyway, unless he had meaningful advice that went beyond "I don't like you, stop fucking my daughter". Whether she takes my last name or not is her choice. I know I wouldn't take hers just because I don't want to, it sounds like a pain in the ass, and my friends and family would probably bust my balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:44 PM
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But the majority of girls are (by virtue of how easy it is for them to get a guy) I don't think that's accurate, but I've got no information on it and I don't want to talk out of my ass. I just straight up don't think that's how it usually goes down. We now live in a society where even if you've had sex with many men, guys will not judge you. I don't judge, because I'm not really particularly interested in other people's sex lives, but you're judging right now, and plenty of other people do. Slu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:40 PM
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It wasn't an "invention". It's an invention insofar as society was an invention, or an ostrich's weird mating dance is an invention. Evolution and repeated behaviors are things that critters came up with to gain an edge. Humans decided how to act over a very long period of time, and unfortunately repressing women was one of the ideas that stuck. And oddly enough, women themselves were reporting higher happiness when they were "sexually repressed by betas". Who established that? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:22 PM
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I don't understand it on any level, to be honest. For starters, it doesn't matter which one you are, because people hate pedophiles and ephebophiles almost equally. Beyond that, it makes the person who uses that distinction look like they feel targeted. And if they look like they feel targeted, they start to look like a pedophile. It serves only to paint the person saying it in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:02 PM
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Also that's not a pedophile, it's a Ephebophile. Nobody really cares about that distinction. It's okay to be myopic about creeps trying to date children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:47 PM
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Okay. That's understandable, but it seems like you're not really addressing anything else I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 03:15 AM
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Because life isn't binary. You don't have to live and die by a singular, rigid worldview to be socially successful. If anything, it sorta hobbles your ability to compromise and modify your behavior on the fly for what suits you, and what's advantageous in your environment. Case in point; you're implying that not calling yourself a Redpiller will cause you to crumble like Superman under a red sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 09:51 PM
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He lived in Ancient India. His worldview is just as foreign to these times as mine would be to his. I imagine you had to be pretty cynical to survive back then, just like how being social and agreeable now is more advantageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 09:01 PM
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I'm a male who seeks female partners (no LTR at the moment). Going down is a confidence boost. It's one of my top moves. I'm not going to brag, but it's nice to have a sure thing in the ol' utility belt when you don't have experience or common ground with the person you're with. It's also generally fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:19 PM
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In terms of demeanor, someone who's an energy-matcher. Socially intelligent, agreeable, not afraid to lead a conversation with reserved people but capable of enjoying a comfortable silence. The kind of man who you can trust not to fuck up. As for looks, I'd want him to look like he can lift more that 50lbs consistently, and put up a fight if my daughter or grandkids were in danger. I'm not opposed to her dating a littler guy, but bonus points if he has meat on his bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 11:53 PM
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No, not particularly. In my experience, moral compasses tend to vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 12:09 AM
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Is Donald happy? I don't know. Is Melania happy? Probably not. Is Melania sexually attracted to Donald? I'm guessing no. What do you think of Melania as a person? I know nothing about her, really. I'm guessing she's not thrilled with her husband's recent choices. Why did Donald choose to marry Melania if he just cheats on her so much? Why not stay single and play the field? I couldn't tell you. Some people are just sociopaths that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 12:54 PM
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I hung out with a guy for three years before I realized he'd been a vegan all along. He didn't give a shit about my dietary choices, nor I his. Reasonable people can communicate rather effectively without running into those cliches. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 11:44 PM
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Feminism isn't just about women, it's about femininity. Calling a gay man a "queer" just for embracing feminine traits runs contrary to that idea, in my eyes. It also spits in the face of the idea of equality; something that's always attracted me to the more reasonable strains of Feminism (you know, the kinds of feminism that are universally ignored by angry young men). If a woman prizes her virginity, it inherently shames sluts. You can care about your virginity or decline sex without being an …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 11:05 PM
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So anytime a woman lives the way she wants she is a feminist? Can you name me a few un-feminist things a woman can do? By that standard there is none as long is it remains consensual. Which I don't think is the case. Unfeminist things a woman can do, huh? Rape someone, male or female Vote for an anti-planned parenthood candidate Call a gay person a homophobic slur Slut shame somebody That's all I got off the top of my head. Probably worded that wrong. She is sex negative because she is judging w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 10:04 PM
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How can this be a misconception when they actually promote/push this? Pretty easily, apparently. You're falling prey to the misconception right now. And how do we know those men are clueless? Probably because they cry on the internet about how women constantly accuse men of harassment, and they're afraid of being alone with a woman lest they be accused to. A man with a clue wouldn't worry about that in day-to-day life. Stupid advice is stupid. You may not learn anything about her as your date ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:57 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:35 PM
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Did the subjects of the post identify as feminists? I don't think they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:28 PM
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Q4All: Is deliberate hypergamy un-feminist? I don't know. I'm bad at judging some situations through a purely feminist lens; I only really critique media or social policies in that regard. I guess she's living the way she wants, so yes? no? I don't fucking know. Q4All: Will women ever stop associating providership with masculinity? Once again, I don't know. I don't necessarily even see that, and I'm not a future anthropologist (or a woman for that matter). Providership isn't solely masculine, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:19 PM
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Not really. Places with more punishments and illegality of higher rates of abuse, hence the inability of prostitutes to get help. Do you really think that America is as bad as it gets in regards to the human sex trade and prostitution, or am I misinterpreting your point? I am not minimizing it. There are many feminists spreading false information that all prostitution is abusive. This is undeniable lie. Just because some other dipshit is maximizing the problem doesn't mean you aren't minimizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:01 PM
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Not by design, but that's very often how it turns out. Human sex trafficking is real; some people do essentially live their lives as toys. It's abominable, and I wish it wasn't true, but it is. Three scumbags in Detroit got caught for it very recently. If it's going on America, you can be sure that it's far worse elsewhere. I'm not trying to upbraid you here; you seem to recognize that it's real, but minimizing the fact of it is disrespectful to those who go through it, dawg.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:08 PM
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Granted, I know approximately jack-shit about prostitution. But logically, your working conditions as a prostitute would depend on where you are, and who you work for. Not every prostitute has legal protection and six goons around the corner to defend them from a dangerous customer. Maybe some prostitutes have it great, but I doubt the abuse that some go through is a "myth".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 10:21 AM
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1) How would you feel if your SO had gotten pregnant and asked for a Paternity Test? Most likely shock and confusion. 2) Would you assume she's cheating? Unless she was sexually assaulted, the obvious answer is that she had unprotected sex with another man. 3) Would your relationship be damaged? It'd probably be over unless there was a mutual understanding that we're both allowed to fuck other people. Even then, I'd still want her to use protection. Even in an open relationship, having unprotect…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:16 AM
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I don't want to make any waves here, but that wasn't really an answer to the question. It's like if I asked a General for orders, and they just pulled from a cigar and said "War has changed." Which pieces of advice do you agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:54 AM
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Well-placed pride and confidence are attractive. When a man constantly overestimates himself and exaggerates his importance, it comes off as insecure at best, and megalomaniacal at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:09 AM
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Good. Glad we're cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:47 AM
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Yeah, that comment was purposefully obtuse. I didn't figure it'd wind you up though. Genuinely sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:42 AM
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Because for a girl to have sex with you, you have to be a person that she wants to have sex with. She already wanted to sleep with guy A. Guy B, she was neutral about until she was won over. They're not the same person, so they have to do different things in order to facilitate finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 07:13 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a requirement, but I like going down on women and it's always mildly irked me when they didn't return the favor. I've never actually had a blow-job, so it's not that important to me. any relationship. ...There are so many people in my life that I've clearly taken for granted until now. You've given me a lot to think about. Thank you. I'm going to call my landlord over and start getting ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:05 AM
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Can't argue with that; we all kinda suck by virtue of being human. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:00 AM
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Almost everyone I know is fine with homosexual people. Even the ones I know who have sensitivities against it are still cordial enough to not call gay people broken. Lol. Being homophobic really fell out of vogue, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:48 AM
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:D You just made my evening. Thanks! I'm definitely gonna binge the hell out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:45 AM
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It always amazes me that there are still homophobes. How can you care so much how someone else lives their life in the privacy of their own home? Some people are just dicks. Of course, some a-hole in Africa is claiming that those lions are possessed by demons... I wish I could find the guys saying this and corner the reason why they think it's even close to rational. Demonic yiffing literally makes more sense to them than homosexual copulation. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:36 AM
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That's certainly possible, but there could be other reasons from person to person. Maybe in her first relationship her boyfriend pressured her into it, and she never liked it. Maybe she felt she had to do it to keep her boyfriends around. Then, she meets you; a guy she clicks with, and is so comfortable around that she doesn't need to put on airs, so she stops doing something she already hated doing because she doesn't know you like it. Maybe it's possible that this hypothetical woman loves you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:29 AM
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Well fuck me running. I was convinced you mistyped, but there it is. Gay lions. Thanks for the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:24 AM
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I'm sorry, but what? What's a gay lion? An actual lion that's gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:06 AM
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I know it's against the rules, but the only reason I came here was to see if someone gets roasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 04:24 AM
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Wow, you are passive aggressive. You could not have made that sentence sound more sarcastic if you tried. Look, it's okay if you are sexist and if you stereotype against men, I mean you are not the only woman who is. Just don't be hypocritical. You think you're offended? You just misgendered me, dude. For the millionth time, I'm a man. A cisgendered, heterosexual man. Why does everyone think I'm a woman? In all serious, I really, genuinely didn't mean to slight you. I didn't mean to wind you up;…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 04:10 AM
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I think it's definitely more healthy and rewarding for the majority of consenting adults to bring sex and romance together, but yes. I think it's possible to fall in love with someone without being sexually attracted to them. I think some acers do it, but I've never met or spoken to one, so I might be full of shit. Since I'm not well informed on the matter, this isn't the hill I want to die on. If it were scientifically proven that sex and love are inseparable, then I'd concede the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 12:01 PM
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I'd turn it down while in public, normalize it among friends, and ratchet it up a notch or two if I know a woman is into me. Enough to enhance my interest, but not to make me slip up or misread a yellow light as a green one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:54 AM
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The point is that it's possible to fall in love without biological urges facilitating attraction. I was disagreeing, but wanted to do so in a manner that was more substantial than "nuh uh". Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:44 AM
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"Who, but a fool, though, would maintain that breeding is an indispensable part of love?" -Harry Crews
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 09:12 AM
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If? I can go from flaccid to erect at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 09:06 AM
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And the outcome would be? How serious do you think this sort of discussion would be when it's coming from a man and not a woman? Let me answer that for you, "not serious at all". Excuse me; I know it's rude to try and corner someone's idea, but do you actually know this? It certainly seems like something you feel more than you actually, quantifyably know. Which is fine in a way; you're allowed to feel some type of way about a situation. Just know that what you said may not be factually accurate.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 07:44 AM
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You said kindness and toughness are mutually exclusive. If someone stands up to a bully on behalf of someone who won't, or can't reasonably be expected to resolve the situation safely, that's kindness. Granted, it's kindness that involves being tough and insinuating yourself into potential danger, but the stander-upper is still being kind; it's a show of generosity, consideration, and camaraderie. Even though the antagonist's feelings are hurt, that doesn't change the fact that the stander-upper…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 10:36 PM
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Sounds like spin to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 07:49 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. Irrational fears don't usually lend themselves to serious and considerate answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 07:47 PM
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Just last week, this woman at work came up behind me, put her hand on my shoulder (which seemed normal), then decided move her hand to my chest and arm. Not the first woman or the first time for it to happen to me at work. If that's true, you could ask her to stop if it bothers you, or use the HR representatives that are at your disposal as well. At what point does touching become "stupid shit". I don't think anyone needs to spell this out to you. It becomes harassment when it makes the other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 07:21 AM
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Not for nothing man, but your logic is kinda concerning here. What kind of situation are you actually thinking of? You seem to have a scenario in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 06:38 AM
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Yeah, that about answers my question. Thanks, and have a nice evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 11:30 PM
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It shouldn't really be a risk. If these women respect you and you have things to teach, then just ride that wave and help them out. If you don't want to do it, just politely decline without giving a reason. Just don't break the law or violate company policy, and people probably won't prosecute or fire you for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 11:14 PM
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I don't usually do the whole "sky is falling enjoy the decline" schtick, but I honestly don't know what the fuck happened in our society where selflessness and magnanimity is seen as a bad thing, and Dark Triadism is somehow hip and vogue and mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 11:01 PM
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Not for nothing, but I'm not sure this conversation is gonna go anywhere if we continue. So, fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 08:06 PM
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Funny at first. Took a dark turn, though. Thanks for that! It was an entertaining read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:43 PM
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Is she cool with me having sex with other women? If so, that just sounds like an open relationship, which I'd be down to participate in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:30 PM
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This puts things into perspective, actually. Maybe being a father would make me go Dark Triad. <sup>More</sup> <sup>like</sup> <sup>Dark</sup> <sup>TriDad.</sup> <sup>Lol.</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:17 PM
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I'm not going to make the "that's just life" argument. I don't know the situations in which you've tried to be good, but I know your frustration. Being hurt, mislead, and inconvenienced when you're only trying to help is a very shitty feeling. But to me, being a good person is its own reward. Not to pat myself on the back, but my skin went from thinner than an eyelid to respectably dense. It got harder for people to hurt me, easier for me to stand my ground, and more effortless to socialize. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:04 PM
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I don't think a good man should be stepped on either. Please believe me when I say the following isn't a personal indictment of your character (I do not know you, and make no assumptions about your past or character), but if adversity from somebody is all it takes to make a good man turn against everybody, then I'm not so sure how good that man was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 02:41 PM
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There's a tremendous middle-ground between being a saint and being a douche-bag though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 02:30 PM
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Just because something's subjective doesn't mean you can't say it. That's why we have adjectives in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:16 PM
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No bullshit, if you need someone to talk to, shoot me a PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:13 PM
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These all seem more like personal choices that suit the individual than a systemic problem. I do agree that personal choice is legitimate. At least we agree on that much. Clarification question; what does it mean to "acknowledge" and "temper" female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:01 PM
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what they need and is healthy and good for them. What's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 10:30 AM
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I personally think that being a graceful, thoughtful, driven person who works well with others is always a useful trait (unless you're a character in a youth fantasy novel). But I guess you're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:26 AM
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These values have no correlation for short-term mating. They are concordant with a healthy social life and a positive worldview, which seemed to be the general point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:18 AM
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It'd be one thing if TRP simply existed to get men laid, but the whole movement clearly has an overabundance of hateful, thirsty edge-lords. Your well is poisoned; if I was an RPer, I'd get disgusted and start a new movement. Having said that, I'm not of the opinion that any group is full of identical clones, so already it's highly unlikely that all RPers are "undesirable, socially stunted rejects". Hell, I've talked to a few here who seemed generally nice and willing to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:09 AM
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That's not really related. If anything, you just gave a slam dunk example of something odd to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 08:50 AM
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You're really the only one making a big deal of it. Nobody really cared or noticed; just cut it out and be cool, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 08:47 AM
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Yes, I would. If the only jeopardy going into a relationship is that she demands I respect her bodily autonomy, then I'm okay with dating her. That's how I roll anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 04:08 PM
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That feels wrong. This is why I think Kickstopper should be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:19 AM
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Nah. Not only do I not want one, I'd be worried that someone would see it. The only way I'd even consider ordering one is if it was free, and I was alone; like, on the Moon alone, where there's no remote chance of another human being visiting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:24 PM
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Honestly, I'm just glad you have a constructive hobby that everyone involved seems to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:15 PM
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I talked to a bi friend, and she reported that "women are more appealing to look at, men are more fun to be with". Maybe modern society is so enamored with the female form that even women stop to appreciate an impressive body. Maybe the fear of being labeled gay prevents men from acknowledging when one of their peers has a cool dick, much less experiment with other men. All I know is that to me, hearing words like "beta provider" and "hypergamous tastes" takes all the fun out of talking about le…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:12 PM
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Why wouldn't you be obsessed? Especially with the enthusiastic fluffing treatment from all those "bull preppers".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:03 PM
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Have you ever considered the optics of constantly bringing up an obscure fetish as an insult? It comes off like you're obsessed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 05:51 PM
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"Bull prepper"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:37 PM
4

This is why women hate rape too. They don't get dinners or anything from it. Yeah, I'm certain that's why. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:29 PM
4

They really aren't, though. I've never seen a discussion where anyone was mad about a sexbot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:46 PM
3

Some people can divorce themselves of practical, real world values in order to double down on whatever dogma helps them sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:52 PM
6

Yeah, there's a weird consensus that only "assholes" can be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:52 PM
9

Do you find it difficult to separate out sex as something that happens as a result of attraction; and not good deeds? No. The idea of good deeds and favors eventually leading to sex is the genesis of a Nice Guy TM Did you ever believe that sex or attraction was something that was rewarded because you "deserve it" for being a good person? If yes, explain. If no, explain how you figured it out? No. I never thought that sex was a reward for being a good person. Being a good dude is its own reward. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:37 PM
5

I generally make an attempt to care about everybody, given I'm a human being with empathy. There isn't a budget for caring about stuff. Even if there was, sexual assault wouldn't be on the chopping block. If I don't give a shit about something, I normally have what I consider to be a valid reason that isn't summed up by "starving kids in Africa".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:13 PM
2

I think I mean the latter? I'm having trouble parsing your question. I think sexism is bad, if that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:27 AM
2

Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:04 AM
3

I tend to question the mental health of people who have apparent prejudice against groups of people (sexism, racism, xenophobia, etc). It certainly points out a difficulty with nuance or empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:04 AM
2

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:04 AM
1

Most people are down on him, but frankly I'm starting to like this guy in a weird way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:07 AM
1

1: How can I un-pussify myself? Take a Karate (be careful which one you pick; McDojos are common), BJJ, or Boxing class. One where they actually physically challenge you; one that's generally safe, but where they aren't afraid to go full contact or roll with you. You'll learn how you react to genuine, high stakes situations. You'll learn how to move your body in a combat situation competently, you'll become acquainted with and raise the ceiling of your capabilities, and you'll develop a bit more…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:06 AM
3

You really think that's a larger problem on the left, as opposed to our current administration which has explicitly and blatantly lied on multiple occasions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:57 AM
1

I think he's making it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 06:42 PM
2

I don't know. Depends on the woman. They have depth (sometimes), differences and complexity. Maybe there are weird chicks who'd be into it, but I don't think I've ever associated with a woman who would be charmed by a long, meandering, boring fucking story about pomegranates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 06:39 PM
2

Ah shit. I feel like you just summoned Candyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 06:35 PM
3

Well if you love her, surely you trust her enough to tell you the truth. If she lies to placate you or get out of the conversation, then you've got communication issues and that's a bummer. I'd rather take my chances with an adult discussion than go to an online forum to teach me to supposedly read her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 06:33 PM
1

Maybe she doesn't like that kind of sex anymore, and as the years went by she grew more comfortable with sex you'd consider sub-par. Maybe she doesn't feel the need to impress you anymore, or just doesn't know you still want that type of sex. Maybe she's just straight-up settling for you, is bored, or doesn't feel sexually attracted enough to flip her freak-switch. There are plenty of possible answers. I'd say the best way to find out is to ask, and have a reasonable discussion about what you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 10:24 AM
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It's not meant to be logical. The communication takes place on an emotional level. The whole purpose of these stories is to DHV and hook the set, all the attraction switches are buried in the stories, tension loops etc. They are designed to flip emotional switches. You need to know some psychology to understand it. Is really it that easy to believe that the guy dressed like a homeless goth honeybee has all the answers? The truth, as I see it, is that none of this guy's ideas are remotely worth c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 10:18 AM
6

Is he wearing a dress, a trash-bag, and fingernail paint? What an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 09:56 AM
1

Yep, especially considering the fact that he's a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:59 AM
1

OOOOOOOOH. I knew I'd feel stupid when you told me the answer. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 09:29 PM
1

You're right to be skeptical of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 08:11 PM
2

I don't know what that means. I'm ashamed to say it just zoomed over my head. It seems like it's either a reference, or you're asking if I'm Jewish. Or Egyptian? They have a sort of gold theme going on sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 08:09 PM
1

You don't know anything about me, and these assumptions are silly. Did I piss you off or something? At what point did you decide it was acceptable to stop having a discussion and start beating on a scarecrow with my username scrawled on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 08:02 PM
4

Whenever I find out someone holds shitty beliefs (race realism, white nationalism, etc) I make it a point not to look them in the eye, and clearly dial back my interest in what they're saying. Flat tone, dismiss what they're saying, don't get into it, but don't leave. I want them to feel as small and ignored as they deserve to feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:45 PM
1

Well, you know a lot of women who do that, and I know a lot of women who don't. That alone proves that not all women conduct themselves the same way. Hell, plenty of alt-right guys preach their horseshit online, but avoid "revealing their power levels" in public because it'd fuck up their personal lives. Some people aren't honest about what they think, and some people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:41 PM
2

I wouldn't put him in the same category either; it was gross and wrong, but he didn't put his hands on anyone to my knowledge. It still warrants some disgrace and counseling though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:22 PM
3

Even in an LTR, I've seen people make it work despite being political mismatched. Also, what exactly do you think "straight up" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:18 PM
2

Shock, disgust, or fear manifest in more ways than just an appropriate escape instinct. Sometimes you just freeze up and stare at something because it's so morbid and unexpected. Sometimes people make the wrong choices in high stakes situations. We're not all perfect creatures that react rationally and gracefully to every fucked up thing life throws at us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:36 PM
4

Just because they enjoy your company doesn't mean they're reverent of you. People tend to be energy matchers (if you use proper grammar in text conversations, they'll naturally gravitate to doing so as well), I'll give you that. But shit like that applies to sports teams and TV shows. I doubt a woman will straight up abjugate her political and moral beliefs just because they like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:28 PM
1

No prob, Bob.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:24 PM
7

This is a huge stretch, but say we sleep together and her family finds out. If her family is racist too, she might say our contact wasn't consensual, or her father or brothers might try to track me down and fucking kill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:23 PM
3

There's more to sex than just that. If she's hot, but a frigid asshole in terms of personality, we're probably not gonna click. Edit: missworded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:20 PM
8

I've gotten good at listening for dog whistles, and casual racists often like to validate their beliefs by talking to "one of the good ones". Since I don't speak in ebonics and behave in a reserved fashion, they tend to take it as an opportunity to test out the ol "black people vs niggers" conversation while drunk at a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:19 PM
4

Not all racists are overtly hateful. I've hung out with some people for years before they made it readily apparent that they held prejudicial beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:16 PM
7

Why not? #1 Because I am not a supermodel, and I don't normally expect supermodels to be attracted to me, unless I'm in a lucid dream. Why not? #2 There are a lot of answers to that question. I guess all those answers boil down to the fact that I don't fetishize the idea of being a woman's first. It's not that glamorous. Plus, I don't think I've met a virgin in my age range since early high-school, and I never chanced upon one who wanted to fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:58 AM
2

Fair enough, but that doesn't explain why it's a choice between attracting one and being a "soulless robot". I feel like there's a middle-ground there. A sort of space in between, where you don't fuck up and antagonize your co-workers with your boner motives, and you don't become celibate to protect your livelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:51 AM
2

OP, not many people are really answering, but I enjoyed your question. Had it functioned as intended and everyone wasn't a bunch of killjoys, it might have been a fun discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:38 AM
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I don't normally look for that sort of thing, but instead of being a stubborn dick, I'll humor the idea and answer. Here are the absolute musts, in no particular order. Gives affirmative consent, and doesn't waffle about whether or not she wants to do it. If I sense hesitation or I hear "wait", let alone "no" or "stop", I'm out. Not racist. That one's pretty important, considering my race. Not married or in a relationship. Good sense of humor. If she tends to suck the joy out of everything, I pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:27 AM
4

Even here, that's baffling. I mean we're talking about masturbating in front of two people who aren't consenting and don't appear to be alright with it. That seems wrong enough for everyone to agree that it's wrong. If people are capable of finding that normal, I guess I can see why some men frequent places like TRP for some form of guidance. That seems pretty basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:53 AM
3

I don't really understand your point, and I don't know what was going through their heads. A comedian they respected invited them to his room for a drink and a chat, and he started jacking off. Maybe they stayed because they were so shocked that it took them a moment to get their bearings. Maybe they were afraid he'd do something weirder if they tried to leave; not a huge stretch, considering he started masturbating without much issue. Maybe they stayed until he finished out of morbid curiosity.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:43 AM
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Yeah, that seems like something you need consent to do. You cannot just strip down and jack off at someone without confirming they're cool with it. That kind of behavior is not on the level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:11 AM
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They didn't consent. They laughed uncomfortably, and he jacked off and came onto his own stomach. It was a jarring situation that they had no context for, especially when he asked them to his room to share a simple nightcap and talk shop about comedy. Plenty of adults would freeze in discomfort in a situation like that, in the same way that plenty of people flinch when you raise your fist or throw a baseball towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:29 AM
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As long as it isn't against workplace policy, it's pretty easy to ask someone out without making things awkward. Just don't be vulgar, insistent, persistent, or forceful. Even beyond that, "don't shit where you eat" is pretty standard knowledge. There are billions of people out there. Excluding the people you work with isn't a tall order that necessitates Vulcan level dispassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 02:15 AM
4

Providing healthy school meals so the youth grows up healthy and educating men on the importance of proper nutrition and regular exercise. Instead of those dumbass "no fap" months, popularize months where we boycott the shitty fast-food chains that cover the map. At least we'd have more men who are in shape. Everything else, I don't particularly know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:02 PM
13

You could sit on my shoulders. Not metaphorically, literally. I can and have supported the weight of people sitting on my shoulders for a decent amount of time. The elevated position would present a tactical advantage. You could lord over commoners or barrage your enemies with projectiles from the high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:31 AM
1

The hint isn't that they're on their phone to begin with. The hint is that after you approach them, they don't lower their phone. So, approach a person and start a conversation, and see if they lower their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:01 PM
1

Mildly related. There was a guy who made omelettes and scrambled eggs at an eating place I frequented, and he'd make the most inane, grotesque, difficult to engage with conversation that I'd ever experienced. Nonstop chatter about the vehicles he's fixing up, shit he was thinking about buying, or his vicious dog killing other neighborhood animals like squirrels, cats, birds, and chickens (he explicitly bought these live chickens for this purpose). I'm not a dick and he seemed to need a friend, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:50 PM
1

Nah. If that's something he values and he isn't getting it from her, I think it's fine. It's the rational thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 09:35 PM
1

Sometimes if Im talking to someone I haven't been friends with for that long and I tell them which girl I have my eye on, they tell me I'm crazy, that the girl is out of my league, If this friend actually sounded genuinely offended (as in not just breaking your balls), you should ditch 'em. As for the main question, I don't think I've had a consensual conversation about a "girl someone likes" since I was in high school. The last time someone told me they were in love with a particular woman (a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 09:31 PM
2

As long as it's just a fantasy or they're acting it out with a willing participant, I don't really have an opinion. Do it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:50 PM
3

Oh yeah, that definitely makes sense. It takes a lot of insecurity and unreasonable expectation to get that way, I suppose. It's kinda sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:49 PM
5

How so? Like some people take playful ribbing too personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:37 PM
4

Nah. I'd rather not go into further details. She wasn't a bad person, just scrappy and didn't give a fuck. How naughty I don't like to shit on people's proclivities, but concerts have never been my thing. I don't like standing in crowds, extended periods of loud music, or dancing. Jazz concerts are dope though. And it is pretty naughty to yell "I'm walkin' 'eeere" at people. We know you're walking, there's no need to make a fuss about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:36 PM
1

The kind of woman who has and will hit someone with a closed fist, likes concerts, and is from New York.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:23 PM
2

She respected me in the same way that any friend respects you; she goofed on me when I didn't know something, but it never felt uncomfortable, condescending, or adversarial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:21 PM
6

I had a girlfriend who relished being smarter and more streetwise than me, and would get annoyed whenever we discussed a topic and I knew something she didn't. She wasn't a "good girl" though. She was kinda dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:42 PM
2

How do you respond to someone who tells you that you have done wrong? I think about it, and if they're right I apologize and try to correct my mistake. Does that tell you you need to change your behavior? If they're correct, yeah. Why would they tell me that I did wrong if they didn't believe in what they were saying? Or does that tell you you need to change your company? If they're wrong, maybe. It depends. Life isn't black and white; maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong, maybe we just have…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 07:48 PM
2

They could be fucking someone else's mother though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:35 AM
1

It doesn't hurt as much, or at all sometimes when you don't pin all your hopes and dreams on a single person's validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:04 AM
4

I think they're a bunch of sexual communists. Cummy commies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:19 PM
2

Sure. If I was attracted to a woman and she wanted to have sex with me for whatever reason with no strings attached, I'd be down for it. That's how the majority of sex in my life as happened. At a party, chatted with a woman, I by some miracle got the cue that she was open for sex, we did it, then we either went our separate ways or chatted occasionally afterwards. Never led to anything, but it was fun and they were cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:07 PM
4

When these threads appear my question is always the same: What do you actually want instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:04 PM
1

Neat. I have nothing to add, but neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:14 PM
3

Yeah, pretty much. If no women liked parties, then there would be no women at parties. I think that would diminish the quality of the majority of parties. As for women who like the qualities that RP trains men to emulate, that's fair enough. Who doesn't like a fit man who appears to have self respect and boundaries? My beef isn't with them, and I don't think they're lesser for their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:12 AM
2

I guess the simple answer from my perspective is thus: I don't think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:54 PM
3

That's no justification for crossing a line. I know plenty of eccentric people who are stand-up guys. Not all artists are criminally perverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 08:13 PM
8

Being creative and respecting boundaries/exhibiting normal human behavior aren't mutually exclusive. There are plenty of avant garde geniuses who don't ask employees to watch them jack off with no context. What even is the appeal of jacking off while someone just watches anyway? Side note, is us being annoyed about sexual assault really a bigger deal than sexual assault? You seem really passionate about someone else's feels. Feels about feels < feels about reals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 07:06 AM
2

I respect contrary opinions, that was just mine. I'm not of the opinion that people who agree with the death penalty are savages or anything, I just think it's wrong for those reasons. No disrespect, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:59 AM
1

I think over three-thousand potential years of imprisonment is appropriate. Separate him from society; that's a fitting punishment, and keeps us safe. I do not think it's appropriate for an organized first-world society to officially condemn a citizen to death. Condoning the judicial killing of a person who is in custody feels dirty, and sort of shakes my faith in the system we have in place. Let them rot in jail for life if they do something truly abominable. Killing them just shows that we as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:16 AM
1

I don't think a civilized society should have a death penalty in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:42 AM
1

Is it another rape-wave around here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 07:59 PM
1

I donno. Around a 6, probably. I'm not great, but I wouldn't say I'm ugly. I rarely think about it, but the handful of times when the people in my life have said I'm a "good looking guy" I found it really fucking jarring. That's less because I'm insecure, but more because I'm not used to being paid attention to in general when I'm not joking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:23 PM
2

I expected you to be a short guy venting frustration. If you don't mind me asking, what's your angle here? Do you feel sympathetic towards short guys who feel like they're being passed over? No pun intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:20 AM
1

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think "day game" literally means talking to women during the day. From what I understand, it means approaching women who you don't know on the street, or in public places like stores or parks or what have you, and using RP techniques such as kino escalation, dread game, stare-blasting, peacocking, monk moding, or bubble-beam to maximize likelihood that she won't just leave immediately or give you a fake number.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:08 AM
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Kathleen Madigan is pretty funny, and I've known plenty of women who've got jokes. Besides that, this argument can't really be defended. It's entirely subjective; you've got no reals to back your feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:28 AM
2

what would you teach your son and how would you go about that. I'd tell my son to find the colossal middleground between grabbing women by the pussy and being a passive Nice GuyTM. Engage women in your social circle, or at social events. Don't bug people on the street for phone numbers (daygame seems to creepy to be worth it), don't be scared of women but don't treat them like shit. Handle rejection like a man; if a woman says no, be comfortable with it and don't get weird. What does "pursuing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:45 PM
4

That's a pretty bleak view, but alright. Think whatever you gotta think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:42 PM
2

You're gonna have to be more specific. Are you asking me what I'd teach my son, or what the world would look like if dads followed that example?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:40 PM
2

How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:48 AM
7

This can and should be counteracted by fathers teaching their sons to pursue their sexuality in healthy ways, and to conduct themselves in a manner that isn't ashamed, but doesn't demean the women that they're interested in. Teach them that the actions of men like Weinstein aren't representative of them as people, but to be aware of boundaries, and healthy ways to handle rejection. Less Weinsteins, and more confident and strapping young men healthily pursuing their romantic goals. Everybody wins…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 02:00 AM
7

Is that really a necessary qualification to make? Those two things don't seem related.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:49 AM
1

Yeah, that's true. I suppose if a dude is at the point of spending a grand on a sex-droid, it's probably due to a lack of other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:47 AM
3

I worry about them, but for a different reason; they all look so creepy and unhappy. I try to avoid clicking articles about them so I don't see those sad, lifeless faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:38 AM
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For the record, I was being sarcastic. Sexbots are creepy, unwieldy, and I'm gonna hazard a guess that they're unsanitary. Any guy who'd pick one of those over a legit relationship deserves what they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:37 AM
2

They're not worried now. But soon the sex robots will come, and they'll be marching down the street chanting "you will not replace us!" That's how the Matrix actually started.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:18 AM
2

Hang out with someone else. If he needs to stop hanging out because he has a romantic interest, that's fine, and I support him. But if he starts doing shit that affects me, like asking me to be a third wheel to pay for shit or acting like a douche while hanging out to impress her, then fuck 'em. I'm not going to take a hit on my quality of life just so he can get his dick wet. If he asks a favor or needs space to operate, I'm glad to oblige, but if he starts imposing or pissing me off then I'm g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:29 PM
4

Agreed. If you're compatible in every other way, I think that'd be fine by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 02:05 PM
5

Certain people are Proud that they lack sympathy Maybe ignore 'em. -GoldPilot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:49 PM
1

If you're just gonna rage at me, what incentive do I have to engage? Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:34 PM
2

Reals over feels. If you lose your temper and do something stupid just because you can't get laid, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences will probably be severe. That's the case in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:31 PM
2

Orange slice flavored jelly-beans might be aight. The fruit ones are the only ones I like; all the others taste like medicine to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:15 AM
3

Yep. Seems every "discussion" I've had lately just ends the same way; we hit bedrock, I realize I'm talking to a guy that's completely alien to me in terms of morals (they're always so bent on calling themselves "amoral"), and I wrap it up and bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:14 AM
1

Here we go again... Force isnt a maladaptive trait. Its an neutral aspect of nature and the natural world. Disproportionate force and aggression is indeed a maladaptive trait. Nobody wants to be around the guy who flings a controller through the screen after losing at a videogame. If something attacks you, you have to fight it off. Sitting there complaining that it is attacking you typically leads to death. It is a modern nonesense to brand all aspects of physical force as "violence". It is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:10 AM
4

I'm mostly joking, though my recent propensity to attract more than one red-leaning poster is a slight source of annoyance. Plus, I do like an accolade now and then that goes beyond a mere upvote. Someone to just jump in and say "Hey GoldPilot, you're doing a great job arguing against shooting women. Have some orange slices and a pat on the back." A good ol' fashioned circlejerk about how great I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:48 AM
1

That's fine. Think what you want. Good day, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 11:23 PM
5

Yeah, but those things that fall under the category of "only so much" are still way higher on the priority list than helping some schmuck get laid. The fact that options are limited doesn't mean there's less urgency to do something. EDIT: Why don't I ever get a tag in when I'm getting dogpiled in these contemptible back-and-forths? Fdreal got a tag in. Would a Blue Piller back me up for once? EDIT2: At long last, I'm being supported by my brothers. For too long, GoldPilot weathered the storm alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 11:13 PM
1

I'm out. Our thoughts, feelings, and priorities are so disparate that doing this holds no value for me anymore. If you want to believe you're right, have at it. The only way I could see you changing your mind is if something random and violent happened to you, and frankly I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Godspeed, guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 11:06 PM
1

So why make it? I was being heavily sarcastic. It is immoral to shoot someone for no reason. I apologize for not making myself clearer, I guess. If it's not, then... why can it be exchanged for goods or services? Why can it literally be exchanged for currency? Because you can exchange literally anything of value for goods and services. You could even exchange marbles for goods and services, provided that person values marbles or you make a compelling sales pitch. But you can't pay your taxes wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:46 PM
13

Okay. But the person suffering repeated physical assaults is suffering repeated physical assaults. The incel is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:23 PM
1

Do you have a source for that claim? Because I'm pretty sure that folks have been debating "What is moral?" for thousands of years and haven't gotten that much closer to an answer. You know what? You got me there. It might not be immoral to shoot someone at random. Maybe Elliot was okay. I don't have a source on the morality of randomly maiming someone with a gun, so I can't defend that argument. Yes, it is a currency that society pays a person with, and yes, it is a currency. Sex is a commodity…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:21 PM
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There's still the whole abuse bit, where a person is suffering repeated physical assaults. The incel is still relatively safe by virtue of not being repeatedly physically assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:07 PM
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A "fuckboy" isn't just a promiscuous man. To me, it calls to guys who make weird videos like these, or send desperate texts to women begging for sex with no context other than that they're horny. Personal taste aside, surely we can all agree that these guys are colossal dorks. If a guy or a gal get laid often, more power to them. But videos like these and desperate texts messages begging for a lay are laughable and cringe worthy, aren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:02 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding me. Yes, people are (or should be) in control of controlling their emotions. I was asking why you make it sound as if they have some sort of moral obligation to do so. Because they do. You and I have a moral obligation to not shoot people at random. Again, missing the point. As I said, society is based around an exchange, and when you aren't getting anything you care about out of the exchange, why participate in it? If I was working a job and they stopped paying m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:48 PM
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I care about those issues because they're a result of shitty and sometimes illegal behavior; there's an aggressor who needs to be dealt with, or a systemic problem to solve. Male problems in the SMP are a personal problem with no aggressor and no direct solution (EDIT: other than personal growth). If a man I knew was having trouble getting laid, I wouldn't know because I don't pry in that manner and I'm not interested in my friend's sexual histories. Plus, the majority of the problems you mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:13 PM
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What makes it the high road? And what point am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:26 PM
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I think "do you condone violence?" is a fair question when someone makes the qualification that not getting laid leads men to violence. Sex is a want, not a need. It is not necessary for long term survival, like food, water, shelter, or participation in the economy that facilitates the acquisition of those needs. Sex is no excuse for violence*. I don't condone violence, so I denounce the actions of people who resort to it without any imminent threat to their lives. I don't make excuses for viole…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:05 PM
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Pop quiz! Shooting someone at random from the window of a car is: A. Moral. B. Immoral. C. Amoral. D. Manly somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:52 PM
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Because what people do should be tied to what they should do. Running around stabbing or shooting people like a fucking marauder falls under the umbrella of shit a person shouldn't do. When you kill people over reasons that fall outside of self defense (even that is arguable in most cases), you are not doing what "men do". You're doing what people shouldn't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:32 PM
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What men do and what they should do are two related things. A man should not fire a gun or stab people based on an inability to get laid. People don't just do things. A man isn't a lion, or an ameba. Going postal with a weapon or starting a riot is not an instinct like a bird flying South for the winter. It's a conscious, unreasonable decision. Justifying violent acts over personal social issues doesn't fly with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:54 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:04 PM
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Why is it their responsibility? Because a person is directly responsible for the things they do. If someone isn't getting anything out of the exchange, why would they ever continue to participate in it? Because if you murder someone, they'll die. If you don't want someone to kill you, you don't kill someone else. This is a pretty basic concept. I don't ascribe any morality to their actions because objective morality doesn't exist, so I can't whether anything is "good" or "evil". That's a massive…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:03 PM
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Okay. Whether or not there's a "biological reason" for going postal, I think it's an adult's responsibility to control their emotions. Getting violent over setbacks is a maladaptive trait where I live, and I hope it stays that way. Are you condoning violence here based on an inability to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:08 PM
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That's fine with me. We don't really need any more Elliot Rodgers scampering around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:51 PM
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I wasn't saying they all were.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 02:41 PM
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I don't believe in "chivalry" in the sense that I owe women an extra dollop of charity or courtesy. I just make an effort to treat everyone well, and do what I can for anybody who needs a helping hand. I don't just hold doors open for women, I hold them open for other dudes too. If someone needs your help, you give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 02:40 PM
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Well sometimes you don't find a steady romantic partner in life. If that occurs, a man is gonna have to be okay with that, without going on a shooting spree. That's just how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 02:35 PM
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Nope. Those two sound like a pair of dolts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:12 AM
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I never said that. But I don't see much feminist pressure to abolish Selective Service, because it doesn't affect them. Probably because it has nothing to do with their agenda. But maybe there's some overlap between people who self identify as feminists and folks who want to abolish Selective Service, but you're unaware because every interaction you have with a feminist is a series of needlessly hostile and pointless inquiries and qualifications? Maybe completely shifting gears like that would e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:35 AM
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So why not get women to sign up for it if it's not a big deal? If it is possible I am rounded up against my will, given a gun, and forced to go die horribly somewhere, then women should also share that equal burden if they want to be treated equally. The fact that you'd rather drag all women down with you in a weird unlikely revenge fantasy than just abolish the practice says more about you than it does about women. And that's the exact attitude I'm talking about. It happens to women, it's a big…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:06 AM
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I'm not advocating that people become acers. I'm saying that being desperate about it leads to not getting it, and not getting it while desperate for it leads people to turn into spiteful weirdos like the incel community. Casual sex is nothing to be ashamed of. A dry spell is nothing to be ashamed of. In a world where we don't really need any more kids, and where the vast majority of sex isn't for reproductive purposes, it's not that much of a stretch to say we don't really need to fuck on the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 05:58 AM
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Or we could teach young men to practice safe sex, and to have realistic expectations about intercourse. Wean young men off of the ideal of constant poon-hunting. Get them to stop viewing it as a precious commodity and to do it responsibly at a point in their lives when they're ready for it on their own terms, as opposed to hounding for it with reckless desperation, like it's an all important rite of passage that must be performed before time runs out. And I know just about fuckall about the gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 05:53 AM
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Unfortunately, the world is not kind to soft men. It might be a lot kinder without the Patriarchy. Unfortunately, too, I don't think women actually want equality. All of them? Every single one? When was the meeting? That's why I don't see them clamoring to sign up for Selective Service, get their genitals mutilated at birth, or to work all the shitty horrible jobs that are primarily staffed by men. Maybe because nobody cares about the draft anymore, female circumcision is immensely worse than ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 05:45 AM
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Maybe in a world that's already overpopulated, we should be doing things for reasons other than getting laid? It's not the holy grail. As long as you have a healthy social life and friends to share your time with, is sex that important? Part of the problem is that we're teaching young men that their self worth must be derived from getting their dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 05:23 AM
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Regarding your exhaustion, my honest advice is to step away for a bit. Just do you, and focus on things you find interesting or exciting. I have a short pillosphere cleanse every now and then so I can look at things with fresh eyes. Personal suggestion: maybe take up meditating. I've been trying it lately and I've liked the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:54 AM
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Thanks. No harm, no foul. I'm a man, by the way. Lately, people have been implying that I'm a woman. I just want to put that out there for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:20 AM
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Or, and hear me out on this, he could talk to a compassionate senior who gives him honest advice that's oriented to his personality, and who he wants to be. Advice like modifications to his diet and regular exercise to support a healthy body, career orientation to point him in a direction suited for his talents and interests, and helpful tips like socialization, therapy, or meditation to help him level out his nervousness and develop a healthy mind that makes good choices based on what he wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:19 AM
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So if a boy can't handle pressure in certain situations, basically fuck 'em? And they say toxic masculinity isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:46 AM
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Not all men are the same. Being told to "man up" might result in some boys rising to the challenge. For some, it just knocks them further into the weeds and makes them want to give up. This isn't ancient Sparta. There are more ways to prosper in a first world country than stoicism, endurance and stamina. If a boy doesn't react well to masculine pressure, then there are other ways to bolster him and help him succeed. This trial by fire shit should be saved for kids who can handle it, or adults wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:44 AM
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I'm not. I'm specifically advocating against telling men how to be men. Let a young man learn to be themselves. If that means being a stoic and handy everyman, then I'm all for it; people who are genuinely oriented in that regard are welcome in my book. But if that means they need a good cry now and then, that ought to be fine too. But more importantly, stop telling me how to tell men how to be men. Otherwise I'll have to tell you how to tell me how to tell men how to be men, and neither of us w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:41 AM
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In a society where young men aren't told "be a man" at every setback or personal loss, they could probably learn to handle business in a manner that's more suited to their personal sensibilities, and grow up to be more well rounded and conscientious people. Or maybe their dicks would fall off. This is all theoretical on my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:33 AM
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It encourages the idea of traditional masculinity that's fed men into the meat-grinder for years. Instead of learning to be yourself, you're told to be a man; a replaceable, dime a dozen man who has to live up to all the expectations of manhood before you even know who you are, or what you're all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:09 AM
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The idea that anyone thinks they've reached some "overriding, all encompassing truth" always strikes me as cringeworthy. I can't take it seriously; it's mildly effective at best, idiotic and hateful at worst. That's the funniest thing about The Red Pill, in my opinion. They think they've begun to see a "bigger picture" by confirming a bias. They've effectively made the picture smaller to protect their feelz. That's why I enjoy representing myself as Blue Pill. I like to think of myself as a gian…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 03:11 AM
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I find parties misogynistic. Fun is a tool of the patriarchy to distract us from women's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:45 PM
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It's called praxeology. And it's the #1 thing people here fuckup when trying to berate... I mean critique TRP. No, you were right. In my experience, I much prefer berating it. I'm also a big fan of reprimanding, admonishing, and upbraiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:24 PM
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My guess is you are just very young and naive Not particularly. Are you saying that you're experienced and sharp? The wisest people I know usually don't fall into the trap of generalizing or making baseless assumptions. You probably still think "the one" exists. Nope. Relationships are work, and sometimes they fall apart. There's no perfect pairing, just like there's no one-size-fits-all strategy for sexual success. Working out and getting your life together is a good start though; that's the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:48 AM
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Are you going to answer my questions? Was that dodge LMR, or do you not have an actual answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:43 PM
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As a male Bluepiller, what incentive do I have to "keep female sexual strategy secret"? And what gives you the idea that there is a unified "female sexual strategy"? And I don't stand by the claim that TRP never works. I simply criticize the morality behind its inner workings, condemn its indefensible practices, mock the general mindset of some of its users, and point out the times where it patently doesn't work. u/SpaceWhiskey put it best earlier by saying; BP criticism isn't always about wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:37 AM
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You basically presented one scenario where a rape wouldn't help anything (with only two humans left humanity is beyond saving), and posited that said rape would be "natural". I'm no expert on evolutionary psychology, but I don't think we're programmed to respond to extinction scenarios by having males suddenly develop a "rape urge". If you're not pro-rape, what are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 09:17 PM
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I don't personally think this has any value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 08:35 PM
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"Don't be weird or desperate." For some reason that clicked with me. I stopped and thought about it, realized that it was nothing to tear my hair out over. Nobody cares about my sex life; it's just for me, and it stays between me and whoever I'm with. When I stopped worrying about the social pressure of getting laid, it happened more often. More importantly, it was fun instead of nerve-wrecking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:36 PM
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Like anything else, it depends on the particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:53 PM
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I need the shades to hide my tears right now. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 01:57 PM
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Yeah, that's a bummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:49 PM
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You choose how to interpret the data you're given. You decide what you think of people. And frankly, I don't think you put a lot of research into your findings; at least I did a cursory google search. You just stated the obvious, spat out a bunch of bullshit word-salad, and spun it to fit the mold of your current view-points. Any middle-schooler can hastily put together an argument like that as part of an essay. Certain men have higher IQs on average, but men also possess the lower scores as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:18 PM
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I understand and embrace the fact that women and men are different on a biological level. However, what I cannot accept the fact that those differences are cause to be intentionally condescending to the women in my life. An adult is an adult. I doubt this chat was particularly edifying for either of us, but good luck and godspeed to you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:25 PM
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For example, the path that frees a boy from depression and the path that frees a girl from depression are ENTIRELY different processes. In the context of people, "equal" does not mean "the same". It means having rational expectations of a person and allowing them the same opportunities to participate based on their individual merits. It's about showing equity to people, listening to what they have to say, and judging them by the content of their character. Solipsistic, emotional, and malleable. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:11 PM
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I'm going to be more direct, since neither of you seem to get it. Does it not give you any pause that in defending "treat women like children" as a non-sexist argument, you immediately dove headfirst into a sexist argument? Are you starting to see why people would call you sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:58 PM
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Everything I pointed out in my argument is showing that men and women aren't equal. Therefor, sexist, by default, is a broken term because its based on the false premise that we are equal. The term is fine. You're just espousing sexist viewpoints. I worked in a scene shop for years, and the job necessitated heavy lifting. Since it was a theater department and I was one of the few men capable of unassisted heavy lifting, I tended to do it. I didn't use it as a basis to condescend; I just did my j…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:48 PM
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I'm with you on that front. Even aside from the nomenclature, the general interactions on the subreddits feel kinda cultish. Peeps on MRP will straight up ignore what their wives are saying and rush back to base for affirmation or advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:24 PM
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I bet I can top that. I once threw a soda-can out the window on a freeway. Pigs didn't know what hit 'em. We're loose cannons Fight the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:21 PM
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It would be trivializing their accomplishments if, objectively, their hard-and-fast contributions to society were greater than 49% in terms of scientific innovation and discovery. They are not, in fact they are only a fraction of this, hence they are in fact trivial, not trivialized. Syringes, fire escapes, windshield wipers, the basis of the computer software we're using now to argue about this, kevlar, syringes, and beer would like a word. I don't think syringes and beer are trivial. "Petty"? …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:16 PM
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No.. that's exactly what we're discussing. Well yeah, we are now, because you made it about that. The OP regards whether or not TWLC is respectful towards women. I believed it isn't, and I said so. You made it about men being better, thereby giving me a helping hand in proving my point. Everything you're saying is validating my argument. It's like you're fighting a sniper by painting a target on your back. See what I bolded? I'm commenting off your logic. There is nothing disrespectful with know…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:06 PM
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Fair 'nuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:47 PM
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I feel you on that. Any scenario where "nobody cares" is the answer is good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:44 PM
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Makes sense. As much as the shorthand would be useful in conveying the ideas, I just can't get into it. I'd rather use my own words than let the nomenclature soak in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:44 PM
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Yikes. That was a close one. He must have been pretty annoyed that you flipped it on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:41 PM
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It's pretty contradictory to believe so much in this goofy "Alpha" lifestyle, but to also have to hide it. That was my general thought process, but I was also pretty curious how an RPer might broach the subject. Why they'd hide it is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:37 PM
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Any idea worth living by is worth sharing, innit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:36 PM
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Criminal scum? What do you get into? No judgement, just interested. I'm a pretty hard-core litterer myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:35 PM
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Can you give me a cliffsnotes version of what happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:30 PM
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Got any examples in recent memory? Relevant conversations you've had on the subject? I'm not going for a gotcha moment. I'm actually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:29 PM
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Off the top of your head, in what real life contexts did it come up? What did they say, and what did you have to say in response?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:28 PM
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Buuuurn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:27 PM
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I tend to talk the way I do in real life on the internet, as opposed to the other way around. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean I shouldn't speak like an actual human. The people who do things the other way around make my teeth itch. Nothing worse than someone saying "lol" in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:26 PM
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We're not discussing whether or not men are better. We're discussing whether or not your views are inherently sexist. Your stance is that TWLC doesn't come from a sexist point of view. Mine is that it does. All the unimportant stuff you tacked onto your argument (for no other apparent reason than asserting superiority) clinches that I'm right. We hold 99.99% of the inventions that support our functioning societies worldwide By trivializing the accomplishments of women... (close your eyes and pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:16 PM
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If someone tells you point blank that they're lowering their expectations and treating you like a child based on nothing but your existence, then you'd be pretty insulted, yeah? Well, there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:30 PM
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This really just proves my point, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:26 PM
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Assuming you're inherently higher ranked than someone based on nothing but sex isn't particularly respectful. A sergeant treats their corporals as underlings because they're part of an organization in which they possess authority. A woman needn't obey simply because a man said so. He's not her sergeant and not her mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:43 PM
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Took long enough for these motherfuckers to get put on blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 01:29 AM
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I have nothing to add to this. Anything else would just be gilding the lily. Thank you for your cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 09:54 PM
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You really had me at "nice and down to earth". Unless I'm romantically involved with her, her sex life doesn't interest me outside casual conversation. I would like to hang out and chat about religion. Nobody in my life besides my parents and older brother are anything more than agnostic. I haven't had a religious conversation since I got out of Catholic school.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 05:17 PM
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Ah c'mon. Answer the question. Don't leave me in suspense here. What are the reasons a woman in a first world country would have sex besides pleasure or reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 01:24 PM
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Fuck it; I'm very curious now. What are these "reasons" that preclude "having fun"? If no sex was for fun, we wouldn't have contraceptives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 07:36 AM
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A leader who is... Prideful, egoistic and lacks empathy, Cynical manipulative and prone to leaving people in the lurch, Impulsive, selfish, callus and remorseless, ...isn't gonna be my first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 01:45 AM
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A lot of sex (maybe the majority) isn't performed for the purpose of conception. If a woman doesn't orgasm, what's her incentive to participate? And why are some men not mortified when they don't do anything for their partner? It should be humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 11:48 PM
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Hey now, let's not just throw around accusations. I'm not Machiavellian. I'm just crafty, two-faced, and deceitful in my words and actions. I might have done it wrong that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:25 PM
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"I'm practical" sounds better than "I'm unscrupulous and scheming". A little spin goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:13 PM
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I scored low on all three. The idea that some people are proud of having these traits is baffling. I do like to use these traits in my humor though. Pretending to compartmentalize and be okay with doing horrible stuff, acting purposefully obtuse in hypothetical scenarios, that kind of thing. I enjoy black humor when the situation renders it harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:05 PM
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If a club was “mixed gender”, and another is “men only” that’s not equal either. I don't know if boys can join girl scouts. I'm not going to look it up either, because I don't want that content in my search history, and I don't need that knowledge in my brain outside this specific scenario. So based on that, I can't argue this point. It isn’t. If they want “Boy Scouts” experiences, don’t see why the Girl Scouts couldn’t do those. If they want to do them with boys, they could open up the Girl Sco…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:30 PM
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Is every all male club a safe space? It is if you put a "no girls allowed" sign on the door like a six-year-old. Sports teams? No. Separate leagues exist for the same reason as weight classes; to keep things safe and fair. are you against the equality to start an club, over the equality you join any club? I think unless the content of the club explicitly precludes it from being co-ed, then screening based on gender alone to protect the feelz of those involved is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:21 PM
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Aight, I'll engage you with this. Why does "equality" mean "separate but equal"? Why is it inherently less important that a child get the experience that's suited for them, just so boys can have a safe space? Aren't boy scouts ten years old? Who cares if your kid is making a campfire next to a girl? They're all kids at the end of the day. And shouldn't it be important to socialize children alongside their opposite sex so they don't sperg out in mixed company later in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:05 PM
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I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:54 PM
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 11:52 AM
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It's fine. Girls who like animal tracks and camping should join the boy scouts. Boys who like cookies and racketeering should join the girl scouts. It is of no consequence to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 11:48 AM
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The bike helmet is bad opsec; she'll know you're afraid of the lethal head-bite, and that you're in her frame. She can get in through the neck just as easily. What you need is a beanie, skull-cap, or doo-rag dosed with a small amount of foul tasting but unscented poison. She'll bite it thinking her teeth mandibles will bore right through. When she flinches at the flavour in her mouth, you'll have the perfect chance to make your escape. Your wounds will be inconsequential at that point. The socks…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:57 AM
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Huh. I guess I mistook the idea of "animal" sex with "selfish" sex. Nothing wrong with some consensual roughness, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:41 AM
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I think maybe the problem is that you have praying mantis DNA. It's natural to fear your mate when your instincts say she will eat your head during conception. I suggest using 23 and Me. They should chart out your genetics, you can find the anomaly, and you can see your doctor from there. Gene therapy has come a long way. EDIT: I'm not joking. That's the leading cause of premature ejaculation: it's your body telling you to bust a nut and flee before your partner can issue a fatal bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:38 AM
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Is "animalistic" really a good thing in terms of sex? Most animals don't enjoy it. The male just gets on, injects, then it's back to business as usual. Humans are members of the token few creatures who bang for pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 08:43 PM
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I've never had sex with the explicit intent to conceive a child, but I imagine what makes it so special and cathartic is the closeness, trust, and experience with your partner. If you're trying to have a kid with someone, they probably trust you, know your body, and are actively attempting to get you off. You can have that experience without attempting to conceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:39 PM
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Wormholes and interdimensional travel are too far outside the scope of my understanding for me to even consider. The only frame of reference I have for them is based upon fiction. If aliens come here, I'm guessing they'll use engines, as opposed to tessering over to us, or jumping through a rip in space. But, the root word of "aliens" is "alien", so hell, they might prove me wrong someday. All I know for a fact is that the Earth is a ball. The rest is just speculation on my part. EDIT: The idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:10 AM
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Flat earth just straight up isn't true. I'm no scientist, but it doesn't make any sense, and requires a shitload of caveats that fall flat lol in the face of what we know about the natural world. Aliens, however, could be real. I simply doubt that any have made meaningful contact with us. As for a reason why, just google the Fermi Paradox and take your pick. Other civilizations who could communicate with us are too far away. No other species have accomplished space travel. They're too alien to u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 10:42 PM
1

Well if you want to bang that guy, then you're singing the praises of a wider and more diverse gene-pool, which goes against your argument. Mixed race children have a genetic advantage; best of both races.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:54 PM
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I know, right? And don't even get me started on victims of tiger shark attacks. Hey idiot, learn to not surf. The board makes you look like a manatee from below. Good job getting maimed, nerd. What are you, vulnerable to macropredators?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:03 PM
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I think it's dehumanizing to the person calling the woman a female. It makes them sound like an alien. But yeah, it's pretty dehumanizing to refer to someone as one of their base attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:04 PM
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Yeah. And if there's a murder, we should blame the victim for losing the fight. Jive-ass murder victims should have been more muscular. They were basically asking for it. With a neck so long and vulnerable, who wouldn't strangle it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:00 PM
1

This is sarcasm. Do not do this. Just ask her what she likes, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 01:46 PM
1

Say nothing. Just bellow a noise like "WAH!" or "HARR!" over and over with each thrust to punctuate the force and impact. Make it sound like you're enraged, or in some sort of pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 05:13 AM
2

"Gay eyes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 09:36 PM
1

Just don't tell anyone you're a virgin. Nobody thinks about you more than you do, so chances are nobody knows or gives a shit about your sexual history. Start hanging out with your friends more and expanding your social circle. If nothing gives, I'll take you to a whore house or something. Sex isn't everything. You won't magically grab the world by the horns just because you put your penis into another person's body. Do not tell your mother about this conversation. You talked to me about this; t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 09:32 AM
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Would you say that being insulting and judging people but keeping it to yourself is the balance you are referring to? Like people watching? I have tons of relationships with people that involve us making fun of others Meanspirited as it sounds, yes. I do this a lot with friends. It's harmless bonding. In fact that is exactly what all blue pillers do when they post on this sub Yeah, ya got me. But back to the point I was trying to make, how would listening to someone with a positive headspace who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 01:47 AM
1

Well I'm not him and have no idea who he is, so I wouldn't know. Those of us who don't look boy-bandish gotta make do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 11:43 PM
2

Hey, if you win the genetic lottery and all you want is random risky sex with strange women, more power to ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 11:02 PM
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Based on that guy's face alone, he may get laid quite a bit. But, if he's otherwise an exhausting, terse, smirking bore, then he probably won't have any lasting relationships. Shallow women will bang him, realize there isn't much else there, and move on. If that guy was also interesting, enthusiastic and friendly, he'd probably be set for life. You can either bank on having a great face, or you can bank on being a great guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 10:29 PM
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It's not super complex. You can strike a balance between respecting the people around you and respecting yourself. There is absolutely no incentive to be a selfish prick; that in and of itself isn't attractive. You can be attractive and a selfish prick, but at the end of the day you'll probably be alone with nobody but yourself to blame. Social interaction isn't capitalism. The more you take out of people, the less incentive they have to put any work into being your friend; same goes with relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 10:26 PM
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I meant in a scientific sense, not an interpersonal sense. There's still idiosyncracies regarding human behavior that scientists don't understand. Sympathy and empathy are definitely things, but people aren't exactly open books. We're pretty complicated beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:16 PM
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Positivity and reality are not mutually exclusive concepts. And given we're having a long distance conversation using glowing screens and buttons, I'd say humans are a bit more complicated than "pack animals". It's not like we're hashing out our disagreement with snarls and chest thumping. Humans are so complicated that even humans struggle to understand humans. Wolves can't really compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:59 PM
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I think they fetishize the idea of rebels, bad boys and rogues. The problem being that even the famous fictional ones have some depth beyond that, and the real ones are unwelcome and scummy in most walks of life. Who wants to be around some prick who smirks constantly? Any time someone smirks in real life, it looks forced and cartoonish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:48 PM
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Maybe he makes "feel good" posts because he's in a more positive headspace than you, and you could learn from him? If your response is just pack animal behaviors, then you'd benefit from hearing him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:42 PM
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All of this reflects their masculinity. Their ideas herald pity and weakness. Don't cut anything with all that edge. I don't see anything inherently wrong with pity or weakness; both are parts of human nature that should in some cases be fortified, and in some cases embraced. Pity begets charity and generosity of spirit. Recognizing weakness begets teamwork, togetherness, and innovation to bolster your weaker aspects. Rather it's one aspect vital to their ideas and them that they fail at. I lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:13 AM
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Probably because we should be more worried about the victims of rape than bitching about 1 in 5. MensLib has plenty of resources for men who have suffered sexual violence. I think that's a far more valuable discussion piece than shouting about how some victims might be liars. How often do the MRAs consider victims of male on male rape? How often is female on male rape mentioned as something other than a joke within the MRA stomping grounds? From my experience, shockingly little on both accounts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:32 AM
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The fact that you measure a man's worth by his masculinity alone is one of the problems that men face in the modern world today. The content of his character, the fruits of his labor, and the quality of his ideas should decide his worth, not your judgement of how low his dick swings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:26 AM
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When the banner of "Men's Rights Activism" is flown by a bunch of dipshits who use the word "cuck" unironically and believe the paramount issue facing men is that women are lying about how much rape there is, it precludes people from bringing forth actual discussions about hardships men shouldn't have to endure. A bunch of immature dickheads are drowning out legitimate concerns regarding issues that men face in the modern world with a bunch of bitching and moaning about feminism. Elevated suicid…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:17 PM
1

As I understand it, hate speech is "speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender". Assuming that's the prerequisite, then a lot of the content posted on TRP qualifies, even if the "true believers" want to believe that TRP isn't inherently misogynistic. They also unironically use the word "faggot" a lot. While it isn't necessarily hate speech since those people subscribe to the South Park model o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:12 PM
1

No. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:21 AM
1

I've had this conversation at least twenty times; I keep calling it "community service"; then I realize, or someone points out, that it sounds like I was serving a prison sentence. I keep forgetting what the good version of that term is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:24 PM
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Yup. It's kinda odd using "Fraternity" and "Brother" in a gender neutral context, but we did a decent amount of community service and had a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 08:24 AM
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Blue, male, and I don't know. 1-to-1? There were usually about as many women as men. But I was usually at those parties to have fun, not specifically to get laid; I didn't often take note of the ratio of men to women. I was in a co-ed fraternity though; I had male and female Brothers. As my big used to say, the best Brothers have breasts, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 03:51 AM
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Ah. Petty revenge fantasy. That makes sense. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:15 AM
1

But isn't this an irrational generalization from one data-point, despite its being emotionally understandable? I donno. Probably. Or not? I'm not sure what you're driving at. It's a big world, with billions of people, and millions of prospective mates. Well yeah. That's why I don't get angry or hurt when someone isn't into me. That, and it's useless and petty to burn a bridge with someone who I connected with just because they aren't attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:14 AM
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Your putting liberal feminism on the same level as like Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr. seriously even Angela Merkel refuses to call herself a feminist. Broaden up your scope. No I'm not. We all like a good hot-dog, but that doesn't make us all Kobayashi. Just because someone is experiencing oppression doesn't mean they're automatically Rosa Parks. Oppression isn't binary. You're being obtuse for the sake of making a point that was obtuse in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:51 PM
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Why would anybody hope that the wall is bad? We're all gonna get old eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:59 PM
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Well I'm sorry you like (or hate?) the word "oppression" so much, but it applies. Maybe the more pressing issue is finding ways to lessen the instances of harassment, rather than trying to paint them as something that's more palatable or raging against people who call it as it is? I'd say workplace standards are more important than a word losing meaning due to being used to describe instances that encompass it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:37 PM
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Well, I learned not to put so much hope and so many expectations on other people. The person best suited to making me happy is me; I learned that from being let down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:32 PM
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Nope nope nope. We do not agree. I do not endorse your statement. I'm not onboard with your sexist, blanket-statement reverse-platitude, dude. Don't qualify that statement with "I agree with you." Our values are completely at odds. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:09 PM
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But this doesn't happen sans a few small instances. There is no proof or evidence that men in the tech industry are overwhelmingly pushing women out for telling them they are bad because they are women. Talking about video games with your IT bros isn't telling women they are bad. I don't have any evidence that isn't anecdotal, and I'm not going to go look it up, so I concede the point that it might not be widespread. Hell, I'd hope it isn't. However, trivializing it by saying that a few IT guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:04 PM
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I don't disagree with that. My position isn't that being oppressed makes you strong; it's that being oppressed doesn't disqualify you from being strong. The impetus is on the person to be strong, not the situation to qualify them as such. If you're in a tough spot and keep a stiff upper lip and fight back anyway, you're a strong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:54 PM
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Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment, the dictionary definition. Okay, so we agree that oppression is prolonged cruel and unjust treatment. These can exist for all people, nothing specific to women alone. Not oppression. If harassing and demeaning behavior persists long enough to be considered an issue, it's still cruel and unjust. Still oppression. Wow yea some guys on the internet use the word slut and stud. Again this is not oppression. There is nothing unjust being done to women. Women are fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 07:54 AM
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I don't think penis size particularly matters; it hasn't mattered to anybody I've been with. Also, you don't know the size of these men's penises. Why are you basing your worldview around hypothetical penises?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 07:34 AM
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Yep. It was a bummer. I didn't want to get out of bed, I was irritable, emotionally brittle and generally disillusioned. It didn't. I just kinda got over it with time. I guess I have a thicker skin now, so that's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 07:16 AM
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What actions is the government or society taking to oppress women as a whole in the USA? I'm not a woman, so these are conjecture. Harassing or demeaning behavior in the workplace. Double standards regarding sexual activity. The legislative assault on the right to abortion and affordable birth control. The bias and animosity against women in "traditionally male spaces" like online gaming or the internet. The idea that harassment or sexual assault should ever be an expected consequence of drinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 07:08 AM
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I can't speak to what it's like to be in a tech company since I'm not in STEM and I don't keep up with that sort of news, but I'd say being oppressed in general is an uphill battle. I'd rather not get bogged down in another week of rape discussion, so I won't comment on your frat parties statement either. However, the idea that sexist oppression doesn't exist in America just because women have it worse in the Middle East is pretty silly. But, I'll roll with it. Getting back to the main point, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:12 AM
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It takes more strength to fight an uphill battle than it does to be considered the "standard" and just be set for life. You have a pretty odd view of strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:59 AM
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1-12 months, there'd be a lot of news articles about it, and the man-o-sphere would be abuzz with their victory. Since nobody pays attention to the man-o-sphere, nobody would care much about that. Later stages, they'd be a part of life and jack-shit would change. The people with them wouldn't admit it, the same way people don't broadcast that they have vibrators or pocket-pussies. The manufacturers would make a mint. It'd be overall positive, since masturbation would be more entertaining for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:10 AM
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You say that, but the majority of times I've seen it employed in the wild it's been used pretty literally, often to hand-wave the shitty behavior of specific people. While the "ideal" meaning is that you shouldn't put women on a pedestal, the actual usage tends to be the same between RP and MGTOW from what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:16 PM
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I'm a bit wary of accepting anecdotal evidence as "a set of truths". Strikes me as somewhat cultish. Besides that, even if it doesn't have to be negative, it generally is. Even in that thread, the vibe is fairly bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:07 PM
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Assume that any woman you meet embodies the worst traits of her gender. I think it's a petty defense mechanism that a man should grow out of by middle-school rather than adopt as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 05:29 PM
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I'm just going to do a platitude. As tiring as they are, I think this is a situation that calls for one. Thinking of women simply as "prizes" is a dangerous way to be. It paves the way for nice-guy bullshit, and the mentality that you're entitled to have a person's time or space. For a relationship to function in a healthy manner, both people have to want and appreciate each-other. It takes time, and bonding, and mutual understanding, not just a petty competition. Sure, there are shallow motivat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:37 AM
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Nuts. I was gonna say that but you beat me to the punch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:54 AM
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How does he know that in the moment? He could ask. Even if he doesn't, if he gets up and leads her somewhere private and she follows willingly and enthusiastically, it's obvious that the problem was location. For every situation where they go somewhere private and have sex, there are plenty of situations where they stop and don't go any further. Maybe she just decides she's not that into him? Or is fine with making out but not sex? Then he'd know if he asked. The point is that you can't simply s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:50 AM
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Faking pregnancies (Biggest of all). Rapid unjustified mood swings. Obtuse regarding other people's feelings ("I don't get why they're mad, so I'm not sorry"). Constantly critical. Racist (Sorta obvious). Says "that's not funny" after hearing a joke (Gets it, but just wants you to know it sucked for some reason). Aroused by weaponry. A wedding ring falling out of her purse. Hates children (I don't particularly want 'em, but it seems weird to mention a hatred of kids often). Constantly mentions h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 11:04 PM
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This is some r/incels level shit. Fear is a natural response to potential danger, and some people can't handle danger as daringly as others. Hell, some people will freeze up onstage with no perceived risk other than embarrassment; just ask Eminem. How would the certification even work? Putting women in a "Cockwork Orange" room and seeing if they have a fear reaction to images of buff naked guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:50 PM
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She's refusing to kiss him at one point, no? Yeah, but the implication is that she'd rather not fuck on a couch with hypothetical people around, not that she's shutting down the idea of intimacy with this hypothetical dude. There are plenty of situations where there's no explicit agreement, verbal or otherwise. He'll either just take her hand and lead her away or offer some flimsy excuse to go somewhere more private. Yeah, but I don't think this scenario really fits. I'm pretty sure the op is ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:43 PM
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Unless the man is dragging the woman along, that isn't really a retraction of consent, is it? It seems more like an agreed upon change of locale for the sake of privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:27 PM
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What do you mean, "frozen"? Like frozen in fear or just deadpan and bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:22 PM
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How did we get here? This is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:40 PM
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If she feels like I forced myself on her and I catch a beef for it, I'd end up in jail. I have no expectation of being treated fairly by the legal system here due to my race.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:57 PM
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Yeah, I've heard about it; I'm just not stupid enough to endanger my freedom just to fuck a wishy-washy airhead who I don't know very well. I'm a black man in rural America. The moment I meet any reluctance or resistance, I'm out. Sex isn't everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:45 PM
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What, if she said no and I stopped and started to leave, but then she said yes? The hell with that; if she wants to have sex she should make up her mind and not send mixed signals. I'm not playing red light green light with a rape charge on the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:17 PM
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Because in every situation where a woman can be raped due to her behavior leaving her in a vulnerable spot, there's a man who still shouldn't rape her. I've been around drunk women plenty of times and it has never occurred to me to rape 'em. That same thing applies to (I hope) the majority of men. That level of responsibility and empathy should be the standard. Being careless doesn't yield your right to not have a guy do a crime. These topics lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:06 PM
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But you asked. I don't understand what I was supposed to do other than answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:32 PM
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Men aren't responsible for someone's response to their actions. However, they are responsible for their actions. It's always critical to pay attention to what you're doing. We aren't forces of nature; we can reason and observe and bow out of a situation where we're making someone uncomfortable. That's true of everyone, men and women alike. If you cut the cake at someone else's wedding just because you're hungry and wanted a bite to eat, you're not responsible for the bride screaming at you and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:22 PM
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Yeah, I can pretty reliably read the basics of body language. Some people are less direct than others, though. When I can't intuit how the person is feeling, I do what I can to put myself in their shoes and get a bead on how I can make them more comfortable, or when I should bow out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:17 PM
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Fear, most likely. Sometimes you freeze up when confronted with something awkward or scary. It happens to plenty of people. Stage fright, fear of heights, animal phobias, etc. In this case it's just fear of someone bigger and stronger persistently making physical contact; a person who could get aggressive or bitter if denied. I'd say that's a pretty reasonable reason for a person freeze or submit when they don't want it. All the more reason to be aware of your partner during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:14 PM
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What incentive does anyone have to "remove betas from the SMP?" Why would anyone intentionally want men to develop a complex that prevents them from forming intimate attachments? Seems like you're cavorting headlong into conspiracy territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:10 PM
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This is obtuse. People have different standards when dealing with other people. I can be fine with it if a friend punches me on the arm, but I can be pissed when a stranger suddenly does the same thing. I can welcome conversation from a friendly looking stranger, and I can snub someone who looks sketchy. What do you believe should happen? Women should accept all advances from everyone, or reject every advance on principle? That there must be some Female Gender Policy that every woman adheres to?…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:02 PM
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Any more than three video game stories. Aight. Which ones? Sometimes they won't finish playing through the game because they don't have enough time - often due to publishes forcing them to play through it in very different conditions right before launch. That seems more like an indictment of publisher standards than a journalistic failure. I've heard of "review boot-camps," and they're pretty manipulative gambits. Publishers nowadays tend to be pricks. And even if they do get through it normally…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:02 PM
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Lol. Of course I'm kidding. Lighten up, man. As long as it's consenting adults, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 12:25 PM
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I'd like to think it's bolstered by higher standards rather than lower ones. Mmk. So you don't like any more than three video-games based on your "high standards." I find that people who use that argument are either being closed minded, are intentionally obtuse for the sake of bad faith argument, or they just haven't tried the thing they're criticising more than a handful of times. The latter of the three is absolutely respectable; I'd rather spend my time listening to music I like than mining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:58 AM
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I would count two, maybe three. Most games have shit stories because they have shit writers and they can always rely on a different aspect to get consumers interested. That's literally just your opinion, man. Which is why the complaints about sexualized female characters never felt genuine to me. They always came from lit majors who couldn't get into the New York Times and had to settle for picking apart game stories from a feminist angle. Hobbyists or not, and whether or not you respect their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:40 AM
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No creative work is really new. Humanity has been around for long enough that all ideas have been done and recorded. Not really. There are as many new stories as there are people with the ability to tell 'em. If you know where to look for inspiration, there are always new stories to tell. Some are permutations on the same idea, but they can be tackled from different angles and perspectives. Even the old stories can be given new life when you have the creativity to approach them with a new idea. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:29 AM
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Who decides if nobody wins? Nothing new is brought to the table. You're spending money on a hackneyed premise and lazy writing. If you want it, go for it. Or god forbid, Mario games! I've never played a Mario game that I liked, but if you're playing them for the rich storytelling, you do you. I still don't see the equivalency between women enjoying porn and men enjoying badly designed characters, but if the sole intention is to bring porn into narrative content and character design, then that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:17 AM
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I like sex, but I don't necessarily need it or seek it out in favor of doing something else. It seems like a lot of fuckin' work to put in to have sex with someone I don't know or care about beyond a few hours of conversation. It's never been a dealbreaker, since I'll take it when offered. It's like foie gras; delicious when it's on the menu, but I don't necessarily sprint out into the night to go procure some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 03:05 AM
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There's a clear difference between porn in which a woman is degraded for pleasure, and narrative content with shitty caricatures of women. Nobody wins in a situation where a female character is reduced to a mcguffin or an object rather than an agent in the plot with interesting things to bring to the table other than her distress. But if you want to watch shows like Sword Art Online and play games like Heavy Rain, go ahead. It's your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 03:00 AM
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Sigh. Typical. If it's two women, the man is treating women as objects by getting more than one to participate in his dastardly sexual proclivities. If it's two men, then there aren't enough women, and there needs to be more diversity in the bedroom. If it's three women, it's men going their own way. Or segregation. In either case, it's the same motivation; a filthy cis male trying to have it all. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:24 AM
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I think the shift comes from popular culture and fashion. People of all races embracing rap music with its affinity for asses, yoga pants and leggings, you name it. A lot of the male focus has shifted towards butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:08 PM
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You're not going to find many BP who disagree with this. As long as it's two* consenting adults, it's fine. *But no more than two. Threesomes are a manifestation of the patriarchy's greed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:04 PM
2

Gotta admit, that Burger King is a handsome man. And he's royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:53 PM
1

The ad with Kate Upton, I'm guessing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:44 PM
1

Yeah, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:42 PM
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Stop worrying about cognitive dissonance in your boner-motives. It's just porn. It's private and nobody important is going to judge you or care unless you slip up and get caught in the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 11:34 AM
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Look out OP, it's the porn police!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 11:31 AM
3

I tend to prefer advancement and new avenues to the same primal stuff we've been doing for ages now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 11:29 AM
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Starving kids in Africa must be thrilled. There are enough optional struggles in life. If I want a challenge, I'll go do something interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:46 AM
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It's hardly more complex than that. Yes there are exceptions, but for the most part it's rather easy to read once you've done it enough and gotten good at profiling and discerning people's character. Maybe this comes down to a difference between perception as opposed to reality. I don't like to make assumptions about people, or you're better at reading the details of behavior. I've been oblivious to elephants in the room before due to ignorance or the dogged determination to mind my business. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:38 AM
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The man's behavior tells you if she could be lustfully attracted or not. The woman's behavior towards him and other men, especially other attractive men, tells you how she sees him loudly too. I don't know what to say to that, other than the fact that people are way more complex than that. It's easy to say from a third party perspective what IOIs or red flags you saw, but you're not gonna get an accurate snapshot of the state of a marriage just by playing armchair therapist. It's an effective co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 12:46 AM
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You can usually tell. I mean, all women basically want a similar sort of man in their own flavor. Unless you're projecting and get lucky and call it, it's harder to tell than you'd think. A lot of people keep way bigger issues under wraps. "(S)he was so normal" resounds the chorus of neighbors as they discover the murder-dungeon under their house. "I never knew" cries the family and facebook acquaintances of a suicidal person. It's more like attacking their masculinity. I don't call an actual ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 11:17 PM
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More like, settling for a man that will do. Unless you're a fly on the wall during their private conversations, or you see the aftermath (divorce), it's impossible to know. Some people are settling, some people actually love each-other. Yeah it went out of style in early 2000s and came back in, basically with Trump I want to say. But around the more liberal sort it's still not okay. I'd say it's out of style for good reason. If the only indictment of a person's character you can make, or the onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 10:22 PM
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Hear hear. The hardest person to know is yourself; I think journeys of self discovery are way more impressive than managing to plow someone. With less biological pressure to get laid, maybe more men would have the chance to get in touch with what they're really about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 09:37 PM
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I tend to think humanity in general becomes more happy when we're less beholden to our biological drives. Less pressure to hunt antelope? Happier. Less worry about plagues? Happier. Less urge to fuck someone every time you go to a social event? Probably happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 08:56 PM
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Plenty of women end up with men they're not attracted to, that don't generate lust, but make for decent enough husbands and fathers. Sounds like that inner-beauty thing. I've met a few people dating people I didn't find attractive. I didn't ask, but they almost always have a good rapport and get each-other. I admire that. Fag, faggots, faggotry lingo is back. Is it? Any time I've heard it, the room's consensus was between shock and mocking disapproval. Seems juvenile at this point. It instantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 08:49 PM
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Wouldn't any person want a partner they're attracted to? If you find your partner attractive, chances are that other people will. The distinction is whether or not someone will cheat, which is typically a universally unattractive quality (lack of self control, poor judgement, liar). Also, TRP calls them beta bucks, or fags in general. Lol. Who talks like that anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 08:07 PM
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The premise of the question assumes that we've seen "female nature" as you perceive it. As a little kid, girls were gross and annoying and I wanted them to stop following me. I saw them as a nebulous, villainous force of cooties and annoying rhymes (Ip dip sky blue, I’m it not you). As I got older, I made female friends and stopped believing in dumb shit like cooties. Then I started being attracted to girls, and learned the hard way how to balance attraction and friendship so I wouldn't burn any…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 08:01 PM
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Nah. I never went through a phase of hating myself or other men in general when I decided that I self identified as a feminist. Misplacing negative feelings never really occurred to me. I've never understood the idea that feminism or inclusive culture requires male/cis/white people to self-flagellate in order to be seen as progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 03:22 AM
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Yeah, that's where you lost me. Thanks for engaging in good faith, but I think we've just about hit bedrock here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:04 AM
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You're definitely fucking with me. I say this without a shred of sarcasm; you drew me in, made me laugh, and I applaud your efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:02 AM
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Well, yeah. There are plenty of fish in the sea, and there's something to be said for keeping a stiff upper lip. There's also something to be said for respecting yourself and learning from past experiences. Just because one person treated you badly doesn't mean everyone who shares their gender/race/religion is shitty. All you can do is seek out decent people and put yourself out there in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:33 AM
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BP is more strict, they say you can not be a sexist. Most people don't tend to have a problem with that. BP says you cannot be a misogynist. About as easy as saying "don't steal candy from a baby." They have a shitload of other rules that seem to have been handed down from god Which one? about what you morals should be and spooky things like "for the good of society". Yeah, you should probably be at least a little concerned about your fellow human beings, or at least your countrymen. Identity do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:30 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. Occasionally, people frequent when they've left TRP, and peeps with the same story offer support and accolades for shifting to a healthier mindset. Other than that we pretty much just condemn, mock, denounce, refute, rebuke, chide, and scoff at content we find abhorrent or hilarious. Granted, the people there are pretty caring for the most part. If you want advice, feel free to ask for it. It tends to be more personal than "hold frame" or "stfu."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:25 AM
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Surely you're joking. RP is insanely rigid. Men must be dominant, women must be submissive, anything that poses some perceived threat to your image is a shit-test, hold frame even when you want to express yourself in a manner unbefitting an "alpha," biotroofs. BP just mocks RP. No instructions. No frame. No restrictions. Come as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:13 AM
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Then what's with the Red Flair? I don't memorize usernames, so I don't quite know what your jam is. Seems like being a Redpiller is pretty dependant on the instructions manual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 06:02 AM
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Is RP really "do whatever you want?" If so, you could probably nix the "required reading" in your sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 04:38 AM
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While that's been true for the majority of history, I still like to think we can fix it if we try.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 03:41 AM
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Hurt and insulted. Probably enough to leave. If she doesn't respect or appreciate me to the point where she'd outright say that, then she can have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 11:50 PM
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I suppose I'm just arguing opinion, but don't weak men value themselves too much? I assume weakness in a person when they get scared and run away from a challenge like a huge weenie because they're scared they'll be wounded or embarrassed. A big dicked hero man would stand his ground and take a risk to live life to the fullest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:27 PM
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Yeah. It happened to me once in high-school, and I saw it happen to a friend in college. I gave the advice to move on and not be bitter about it or villainize the girl for not liking him that way; no point in romanticizing something that won't happen or driving away a person who likes you as a friend. Fortunately, he took the advice. I'd have liked to be given that advice too, and I'm glad I learned it on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:19 PM
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First of all, the very fact that you're referring to the likes of Dr. King, Teresa and Roosevelt as "social justice warriors" is insulting in and of itself. Second, Admiral Yi and Montefeltro were literal warriors; military men who have absolutely nothing to do with social justice advocacy. SJWs saving the world peacefully was never my point; my point was that the listed people made a difference for something other than money or acclaim. They did it for the benefit of their people. And not all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:07 PM
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I think you're being deliberately argumentative for no real reason, or you've lost the thread of what we're even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:26 PM
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While I'm not ungrateful for social media and online shopping, it isn't really what I had in mind in terms of "heroism." I was thinking more along the lines of Federico da Montefeltro, or Martin Luthor King Jr., or Admiral Yi Sun-sin, or Elanore Roosevelt. I know for a fact Admiral Yi wasn't exactly doing it for the money, considering how often the Korean military shit on him for just trying to do his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:25 PM
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It's still proof positive that you can be a good person if you try. Even if you don't go down in history as a Saint or a Liberator, you can at least advocate and practice beneficial social behavior, vote for positive change in your community, and pay attention to the wants and needs of the people in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:01 PM
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Self identifying as a bad person doesn't solve anything. Hell, it doesn't even do anything. It's defeatist and petty to write off pusillanimous behavior as human nature, especially when the greatest heroes of human history (in my opinion) were driven by the notion of altruism, progress and self-sacrifice. Edit: Accidentally chopped off part of a sentence there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:24 AM
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I don't know how to respond to any of this. Drink a glass of water and go to sleep, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:32 AM
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Normally. Same way I treat men. I give people a nod if we make eye-contact so it isn't as awkward, make small-talk when we're sharing a space and it seems like they're normal and could be open to a chat, get the door for 'em if I'm near it (regardless of male or female), generally try to be a nice person to people I see face-to-face. I like the idea of people going home and being happy that they had a decent interaction with another human. I'm of the opinion that you should always give people a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:20 AM
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I'd stick with male. Being female has a whole bunch of fangles and tasks and functions that I'd rather not keep track of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:55 PM
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"We all have biases and use motivated reasoning to dismiss ideas that run counter to our internal values." Agree. We all justify the things we say or do somehow. "I strongly support trying to understand how and why people think the way they do." Mostly agree. If I can sympathize with someone or understand their mindset, I'll at least try. But sometimes I just don't care why someone said or did something because it was so reprehensible that there's no excuse I'll accept. Like anything else, it de…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:22 AM
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I don't think you understood me, so I'll reitterate my previous point for clarity and emphasis, even though you're clearly at the point where you'd rather resort to insults than have an actual discussion. The link you posted regards their users and is about net neutrality, not their own employees. Obviously their consumers and their employees have different rules when interacting with Google; namely, saying certain things while on their payroll will get you fired. But if you're gonna be that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 10:41 PM
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Did you even read a full article on this before? Did you skip the part about how the internal forums are meant to be places where even controversial ideas are discussed? Like anarchism? Apparently "controversial ideas" doesn't extend to badmouthing programs that got some of your co-workers hired, and saying that female employees don't belong despite having qualifications and working there without issue. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed in the work-place with impunity. Did you also never…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:38 AM
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Thats one in the same if we are talking about values and ethics here. It's no different from what happens in Turkey or many nations where your removed from society and put in jail for spreading beliefs against certain groups of people. It is incredibly different. He's not being thrown in a gulag or a prison for saying what he said. He was fired from his job because he vocally disagrees with inclusivity policies in an inclusive company. That's not the issue. The issue is it's not applied equally …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:56 AM
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I wasn't aware of that. Granted, public or private, it's still a rather shitty thing to say when you consider his co-workers who were hired based on the opportunities, programs and mentorships that he was bashing. If he doesn't respect his co-workers journey to their shared work-place, and doesn't believe in the values of the company that he's working for, then he's a problem. I'd have fired him even if it didn't leak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:35 AM
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They're not disallowing him from spreading his belief, they're disallowing him from spreading that belief within their venue. They didn't disrupt the publishing of the information, they fired him for saying it because they believed it presented a negative work environment for the people who were hired based on those policies (which is a shitty thing to say about your co-workers regardless). There are consequences to your actions. If you're not going to consider how what you say effects those sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:31 AM
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I don't care. He shouldn't have put his own company on blast for their policies publically if he wanted to keep his job. But why are they calling it a "manifesto?" Did he call it a manifesto? If so, bad move on his part; nobody likes anything called a manifesto. If not, bummer for him. The moment they call your work a manifesto, you're automatically the bad guy no matter what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:59 AM
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This isn't what censorship is, though. They're a private business, and he publically voiced an opinion that was not inkeeping with their values, so they fired him. If you go to someone's house or venue and say something they don't like, it isn't censorship when they eject you or deny you a platform that they own. The dude can say whatever he wants, he just can't do it on Google's payroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:50 AM
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Sure; sexual history alone isn't really a factor for me unless it presents a health risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:52 AM
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17 years old. Male. Bluepill. Was not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 08:20 AM
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Faking a pregnancy. I've only seen it once, but the psychology behind it made my skin crawl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 08:02 AM
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How some men on MRP will run to an internet forum for validation instead of just opening a dialogue with their spouse. Hell, sometimes their wife will literally tell them what's wrong, but they'll ignore it and copypaste private conversations for fellow MRPrs to dissect and analyze. It always strikes me as oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 08:00 AM
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It takes a lot of patience. Aside from that, I'd rather not grace it with description.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:05 AM
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As it relates to heartbreak, the best cure is time and distraction. You don't necessarily need a rebound, or some sort of fuck spree. Just go out and do the things you enjoy, or work on fulfilling projects. Eventually you'll think about it less and less until the heartache dulls and stops being relevant. As it relates to your life (developing crushes too easily), your best bet is learning to have realistic expectations in people and dating in general. When you put too much of yourself into the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 02:18 AM
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I'm not necessarily sure I even understand the question, so I decline to comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:40 AM
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Not really. They'd lose some points, and it'd lower the odds of me wanting to go down, but it's not an automatic disqualification. If she's hot otherwise, that can probably put her far enough in the black that I'd still take her out. Ew. No, dude, I just don't like hair. Getting it in my mouth makes me gag in any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 07:16 AM
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Manosphere entails Redpillers, antifeminists, PUAs, Incels, etc. It most certainly doesn't include me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 10:43 PM
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I tend to agree. I think the monopoly of force and control in regards to the culture shouldn't be held by one particular demographic. We're supposed to be a melting pot; we benefit from different points of view, and should build each-other up and make a sorta megaculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 10:23 PM
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I'm actually curious; have you ever intervened in a potentially violent confrontation? Maybe extreme, but hopefully the hobo learns. I don't think that's any reason to escalate to violence in this type of scenario, for a lot of reasons. Sure, talking the homeless guy down or intervening non-violently and calling the cops would be reasonable, but hitting a possibly mentally ill person who poses no threat seems suuuuuper immoral, even in the context of standing up for somebody who isn't in immedia…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:22 AM
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Some people just freeze up. It's human nature, especially in a society where you're not exactly expecting a violent, or even tense confrontation. Hell, some people don't even notice. When you're in your own head and going about your routine, it's hard to have Batman vision and notice that something is amiss in a public space. Hell, half the people I encounter don't even notice that they're standing in my way. Crime doesn't exactly clear its throat and go "excuse me, I'm over here." All that asid…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:54 PM
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Back it off a little. Just say happy birthday and ask her out at some point. People like a decent cook though. Maybe share some truffles with the group on another occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:46 PM
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You know I'm a man, right? I'm not sure if that's always clear. I find debate repellant. If I'm just chilling and talking with people, or even trying to accomplish a task, turning shit into a debate just sours things, slows shit down, or risks irreconcilable deadlocks on time-sensitive work. Friendly arguments about dumb bullshit is fun when it's agreed that personal attacks (ball busting) is already on the table, but sitting down and having a serious political discussion or debating what restau…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:14 AM
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I prefer not to argue for no reason, so I suppose I'm chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 12:32 AM
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Hey, you said it, not me. Hell, you're living it while I'm not. That alone is evidence that it ain't universal; it's due to the company you keep. If two different anecdotes are different, that kinda devalues the one that maintains an extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:18 PM
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The problem lies in who you associate with, not an entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:08 PM
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I'm a pretty good conversationalist in a casual setting. I just chat them up, and if they're interested, they're interested. Or maybe I do some sort of sexy dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:58 PM
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Nobody said that here at all, man. You just followed someone into a new thread to be petty and bring up a previous comment? Who gives a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:56 PM
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Nobody said that at all, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:29 PM
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Like disagreeing with a personal opinion is offensive to many women, which is absurd in itself. Absurd how? When you voice a disparaging opinion, you should be ready for disagreement. Granted, voicing that disagreement in the form of a personal attack is an irresponsible escalation in most cases, but that's hardly a feature that exists only in women. And you're basing that assumption on what? I'm guessing it's anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:14 PM
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Anyone who fails said standard fails said standard on their own merits, male or female. Assuming the absolute (men are competent, women are not) is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:10 PM
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Seems pretty misogynistic to me. It singles out and belittles women on the basis that they're not "rational." Most of those quotes are from dude largely considered a misogynist himself. Ol' Artie Schopenhauer went on to make such hallmark claims about women as: "woman is by nature meant to obey". "there would be more warrant for describing women as the unaesthetic sex." "under-sized, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race" "One need only look at a woman’s shape to discover that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:12 AM
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First of all, my point isn't that a person would ruin their reputation. My point is that it's pretty gross to argue the point that adult men should consider it healthy to want to bang kids, regardless of context. As for your point about teenagers starting this discussion under the premise that they're teenagers and they thus want to bang teenagers, I have no idea, and I don't care to hypothesize. I don't think that's what's happening, but I'm just not gonna touch it. As for it being an attack on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:50 AM
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Why is this the hill that anybody wants to die on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:25 PM
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I wish I could upvote this twenty times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:35 AM
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You use the word "issue," when I really don't see it as an issue. I think it's a valuable trait to be able to convincingly slap together an excuse for phenomena outside your control. That's 45% of being a dad. I know I'm being silly, but coming up with an entertaining and possibly true response makes for a better conversationalist than burying your nose in a smartphone like a dick, and I sincerely value that in a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:56 AM
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Indeed it is! Someone who can slap together a probable answer on the fly will get pretty far in a lot of places. As long as they're low stakes, and being wrong won't cause a gas leak, organ failure, reactor meltdown, or an angry mob.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:06 AM
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I don't think it's bad. I think it's a superior trait. Bullshitting for the sake of fun, friendly conversation, or spitballing ideas that might be spurious when relatively little is on the line. I do it all the time. Just yesterday; Friend: My cat doesn't care when I pet it. Me: She's a longhair, right? The extra hair is probably making the petting all... "pully." Try scratchin' her head, or patting her. Friend: No shit? Me: Yeah. I don't know if it was true, but the cat seemed to like being scr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:17 AM
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Pretending to know stuff in conversation. In other words, bullshitting. Like if I found a ripped up tire and asked the a guy next to me what did it, he'd answer immediately and succinctly with something that could be true for the sake of conversation. "I've seen this before. Sometimes dogs bite tires. For the sulfur. That's why some dogs try to eat their own shit." Then we'd launch into a discussion about his bullshit answer. A woman would probably say "I don't know." Granted, what the guy says …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:29 AM
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Nah. Blank slate theory is a bunch of hokum. Genetics and environment both play a role in a developing mind. People with angry parents are more disposed to fits of temper, that sort of thing. I know it's not easy for me to ascertain, but I don't pretend to know much about behavioral psychology. How do you view trans people? Is there a gene that determines if someone is trans? Are they really the opposite sex trapped in the wrong body? How do you distinguish them from a particularly feminine man …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:23 PM
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It's hardly a big change. Gender = self identity, sex = chromasomes, a handful of people like to be called "they/them/their" because it makes them feel closer to who they really are, people switch genders to the one that best suits 'em. There's a scientific consensus from the area that deals with it, and it's not exactly a world-changing paradigm shift. Remembering and accepting all this stuff is about as difficult as remembering brontosauruses were never real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:58 PM
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Okay, but what makes it worth the trouble? The right to be rude to a hypothetical stranger who would rather go by "she" instead of "he?" Doesn't seem like that much of a hassle to learn this stuff, and burying your head in the sand doesn't strike me as a noble goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 11:27 AM
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Hm. You're right. I can't claim to know how you feel, since your experience, along with the experience of your hypothetical lad differ vastly from my own. It's difficult to think of feminism as a force that can be as damaging as racism, but I will say this; you have my sympathies, there are ablist aspects of feminism, what happened to you was shitty, and I apologize for my rudeness and the fact that I jumped the gun before I really gave your argument some thought. It sets me off when people comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:25 AM
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It's amazing how far certain people will go to refuse to make allowances for people with very simple preferences. That aside, this has been a pretty interesting discussion so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:57 AM
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You say your black. Imagine being a young black teen in a society that has a thing called "Schrodingers Thug". That you are potential threat to white people, and should only interact with white people in situations where if you were dangerous, you wouldn't be able to harm them. Note, its not, if your not dangerous. You know your not dangerous, but white people don't. So its inappropriate to interact with white people unless they'd be safe with you if you were dangerous. Yeah, that's pretty much …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 07:43 AM
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Wouldn't going out of your way to identify as "they/them/their" rather than "he/him/his" or "she/her/hers/" make someone decidedly non-comformist?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 04:49 AM
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The only alternative gender person I've come into contact with is a person who identifies as gender-neutral, using they/them/their pronouns. As I understand it, they made the choice to opt out in order to explore themself to the fullest, without committing to the societal expectations of either gender. They wanted true, total freedom to judge themself by their own metric, without the pressure of being seen as masculine or feminine. Granted, this explaination is coming second-hand from someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 04:47 AM
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I could see that point being valid (in my eyes) if any of the things mentioned by OP directly charged all men as rapists, or if AWALT was even trying to solve a rational problem. Things like "cosplay is not consent" are coined to call out something that is directly harmful and unlawful. Even Schrodinger's Rapist, as insulting as it sounds, is cautionary advice to be careful around people due to a potential threat. AWALT simply exists as a vague insult against women in general, as opposed to resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:51 PM
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I am a man. I'm also a minority (black guy). I suppose my masculinity is just more durable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:26 PM
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I guess I don't understand why any of these problems supposedly weigh upon you, or why they shouldn't be addressed just because they wound your sensibilities. None of these things are socially threatening if you're not guilty of 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:59 PM
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Never, actually. I've never asked or been asked by someone I was seeing. The only time I've been asked about my count was by other dudes in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:41 PM
1

I don't think there's any such thing as an "alpha" in human dynamics. It's not even a thing for wolves. The study that coined the term has been debunked and dissavowed by the guy who performed it, because the wolves he studied were in captivity. It's a common misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:15 AM
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I find it pretty easy to keep my boner-motives to myself. I have interests that nobody knows about, and I'm entirely comfortable keeping it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:02 AM
1

This premise requires one to accept a lot of your personal assumptions. However, there's a pretty huge difference between posting pictures on social media and flirting with people in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:00 AM
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Yeah, I think that an aversion to women with a high n-count often points out a certain insecurity in a man. I don't ask and I don't particularly care about a partner's sexual history unless it presents hazards to my health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 04:49 AM
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I don't think so. People tend to reach for reasons to hate Trump. Granted, I hate the guy too, but calling him out for this is a stretch, especially when he has such an extensive list of other mysogynous activities under his belt. Depends on the context. I tend to agree that when you're a world leader greeting the spouse of another prominent leader, you probably shouldn't linger on her physical appearance as long as Trump did. Hell, you probably shouldn't comment at all beyond "You're looking ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 10:11 AM
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Ah jeez. I read that as sarcasm. My fault, man, I completely apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:46 PM
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You've got to admit that claiming to have no conscience while unironically using the term "moral fag" is enough to make anyone sound like an angsty teen. Hell, just using "fag" alone is enough to elicit something between a groan and a chuckle. It always reminds me of the dorks who say it's not homophobic because South Park said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:21 PM
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While I agree that certain aspects of TRP can be used to better one's life without doing harm, TRP often tacitly or explicitly endorses the outright sexism on their platform by upvoting garbage and treating personal anecdotes as ground-breaking data, and supporting mysogynous venting from those in the "anger stage." If TRP does condemn blatant sexism, it's not doing a particularly good job. I've seen it said that part of the draw of TRP is the sexism in the first place. If you want to distance y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:13 PM
1

Alright then. Careful with all that edge; you might accidentally cut yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:07 PM
0

So you just categorically disagree with the idea of holding yourself to a higher standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:03 PM
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Not really. If I was missing a foot, I'd have a clear handicap in life; even if I wasn't old enough to remember the trauma of losing a foot, I'd walk slower. Being circumcised has presented me with absolutely no disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 03:14 PM
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Sorry, I came in a little hot on that one. Having a weird day, and my point got warped by annoyance. Totally my fault. My point is that rejecting the idea that morals have no value just because personal viewpoints may vary is a rather obtuse way of viewing the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 03:13 PM
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You know what? That's a totally fair statement. However, certain ideas ought to be condemned on the platform in which they spring up; not outright censored or enforced by the thought police, just firmly rejected. As a Christian, I completely reject the premise that American law ought to be based around the teachings in the bible, and I argue vehemnantly against (and vote against) laws that prohibit abortion or same sex marraige on the principle that it's "wrong." I don't think it's a lot to ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 03:09 PM
3

Because I've never needed it or noticed its absence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:53 PM
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No it absolutely isn't. I'm circumcised and I don't even think about it, except for the weird days when a thread like this reminds me. I don't remember the event, and it brings me no disadvantages. Your "examples" aren't real, and this is borderline farcical. The clitoris is one of the dopest parts of a vagina, and the foreskin has so little value that I forget that it's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:49 PM
1

I'd argue that it's morally irresponsible to sell a message of sexism to idiots who will fall down a slippery slope and take it to an extreme. First world society needs to cater to the dumbest/most vulnerable of their ranks. That's why we have hand-rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:45 PM
0

So we should all be hyper-practical edgy teens who base our choices on the "statistics" that we make up in our heads to dehumanize the opposition? Because that seems to be the implication based on the comments I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:41 PM
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I'm not going to make any more assumptions about you as a person, because that would be rude, and I don't understand what else I can add to this conversation. I hope you're doing well. Good luck with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:07 AM
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Unrelated, what time is it where you are? I think you might seriously need some sleep. This whole thing reads as unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 08:48 AM
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I figured the responses would be disappointing, but I didn't think they'd be quite so disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 08:47 AM
2

So, what are we actually meant to discuss here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 08:44 AM
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I'm decently funny, kinda physically strong, I'm an okay judge of character, I'm tolerant of others, I can infinitely entertain myself even when given nothing to work with, and babies stare at me like O.O for some reason whenever I'm in their line of sight, which is almost definitely a sign of my spiritual power. Granted, I'm probably surpassed in all those regards, but that doesn't bother me. They're them and I'm me. I'm just not the jealous type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:11 AM
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I know there are people smarter than me, but fuck it. I still like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 02:12 AM
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Well, the best thing you can do is something personal. A funny story told from your perspective with satisfying punch-lines and banter mixed in. Any political message or social commentary can be lost on certain audiences, or fail to resonate. Relate to the audience by making the set your own. That night I did a set about a time when a mime did a lengthy pantomimed ministry in my church. I got laughs, while the three different guys who did period jokes and Trump humor bombed. Above all, have fun …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:11 PM
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Hey, I think they're okay. With a bit of workshopping, a decent amount of comedic pause and tone, and they might be winners. It's hard to translate stand-up comedy into text. Lol. My advice is to make a sort of "spine" and riff from there; don't be afraid to improvise. Edit: Actually, more importantly, I'm not the arbiter of comedy. Go out there, find an open mike and give it a shot if you're curious. If you do, I hope it goes well. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:22 PM
4

That one will probably get you booed, or be met with silence (even worse). No punchline, too preachy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:38 PM
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It's a new spin on a premise I've heard before. The edible part makes for a decent punch-line, but you might get heckled a bit if there are belligerent audience-members, but the payoff is decent if you can go the distance and make it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:26 PM
4

It seems kinda cheap, and that premise has been overdone, but depending on the venue you might get laughs. I've seen that bit succeed and fail depending on the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:14 PM
1

Yeah. As a man, I admire and strive for magnaminty. To be great of mind and accepting of others is a mark of a rock-solid dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:02 PM
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A week ago I was at a bar during an open mic. I was at a table by myself, because I wanted a few minutes alone to work on my set. A pair of women walked up and asked if they could sit at my table. I was immediately fine with it, but they started annoyingly apologizing and qualifying "You don't have to talk to us, we just need a place to sit. We're sooooooo sorry I know this is soooooooo rude. Oh my gooooood we just need a place to sit." I just kept saying "It's fine, go ahead." As the evening we…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 04:46 PM
1

The only thing I can think of in that vein is cologne. I don't really wear it for anyone but the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:24 PM
1

Mmk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 05:19 PM
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The vast majority of mentally ill people are bigger dangers to themselves than other people. It makes sense that a killer with a lot of publicity would catch the fancy of a lot of low key people with issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:00 PM
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Because the women who write those letters aren't sane either, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 09:37 AM
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You're the one who presupposes that men shouldn't be considered responsible enough to wear a rubber. I'm starting to think you're a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 07:42 PM
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If you don't see the irony, I suppose I'll spell it out. You accuse me of sexism, then make a negative blanket statement about an entire gender. There's no way anyone with reading comprehension could ever take that accusation of misandry seriously. It's invalid by design.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 07:34 PM
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lol. And people buy playboy for the articles. Don't knock it; some of them are pretty insightful. Who buys paper porn anymore anyway? sure, it could just be a show. But it often is a self-insert. If I watch lesbian porn, am I transgender? nope. Women are far more concerned with public appearance, and thus internalize it more. Okay. Neither of us have the facts on that, so I'll let you pretend to know the answer. not even close. Do you even know how the Y chromosome works?https://www.psychologyto…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:43 AM
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Yeah, there was definitely some sort of mental health issue going on. I wish her the best, but I don't need that in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:29 AM
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The icing on the cake is that she wasn't even attractive. The looks weren't there and her personality is about what you'd expect from someone who fakes a pregnancy (annoying, attention seeker, disconcertingly blunt). I just went through all that bullshit due to proximity; I didn't even like her as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 10:28 AM
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Another huge interest involved violence against women, women like this more than men do. AND IT IS NOT CORRELATED WITH HOW WOMEN ARE TREATED AROUND THE WORLD. This means that it is an innate biological desire. (AWALT, Bitches.) There's a divide between what people want to watch and what they want to do. I know a bi girl who described it thus; women are more visually appealing, but men are more fun to have sex with. A lot of people watch porn for the narrative, but that doesn't mean it's necessar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:34 AM
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I'm not entirely sure what a nice girl is. I'm guessing you don't mean a girl who is nice; I know plenty of those. There is one girl who I can think of who stood out as sinister. In the span of the few months that I met her, she completely cockblocked me at a party, punched me with enough force to bruise as a "joke," made incredibly uncomfortable comments in person and on social media about how black guys are attractive (I'm black), and faked a pregnancy for attention while a member of our group…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:26 PM
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Well, I've been honked at and called "nigger" from passing cars four times. They were always in cars with Confederate flags. Nobody on foot has ever said it do my face, so it never strikes me as dangerous. Just a reminder that some people suck. That racist stuff has been on the rise around here since ol' Donnie took office. Other than passing racist cowards, nobody else bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:38 PM
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None, really. I'm a 5'11" man, so women tend to be shorter than me anyway, and I'm not so insecure that a taller lady would turn me off by default. She could be 7' tall, but if the attraction is there I'll still be down. Edit: I was wrong. I got curious and measured. Turns out I'm about 5'9".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:35 PM
1

Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:17 PM
2

Hey now. To be fair, you said "diversity isn't strength," and went on to say that you want a Western European Christian area. That sounds an awful like us African Americans aren't welcome in your worldview. Let's just be fair, here. For fairness' sake. Hey, wait a minute, what did this weird diversion even have to do with the OP's question? Your post doesn't at all say what women in the prime of their youth ought to be doing. The OP had nothing to do with race.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:58 PM
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In fairness, some of the core tenants of the KKK are "to shield the sanctity of the home and the chastity of womanhood; to maintain white supremacy; to conserve, protect and maintain the distinctive institutions, rights, privileges, principles and ideals of a pure Americanism." Those concepts really sync up with what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:32 AM
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Diversity isn't a strength. Racial mixing makes for stronger children, from what I've read. Diversity isn't ethnic restaurants. I love Thai places. I think the racism is probably overstated. When you go out of your way to exclude other races, racism tends to be understated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:36 PM
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Whatever they feel comfortable doing. I live in a free country, and I'm a man, so it's not really my place to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:31 PM
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Oh.. you thought it was a child support debate? Well yeah. Because you asked why a man should be on the hook for a child that is his. My answer was that they share the responsibility, because he had unprotected sex and fathered a child. She's taking just as much responsibility by giving the child housing education and sustenance. The only think he's giving is monetary support; literally the least he can do when you consider the weight of raising a kid. I thought it was a debate about whether you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:06 PM
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Says the guy who went through a child support debate without any passing interest in talking about the child affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 03:37 PM
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The child is the bottom line. That's where my sympathies lie, and that's who needs to be considered in this discussion. If you can't entertain the first word in "Child Support," then there's nothing to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 03:29 PM
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Because there's still a living child that needs support in order to have a decent quality of life. If you don't want children, use a condom that's functional, stop having sex when it breaks, and best of all, don't fuck people who you can't trust. He engaged in risky behavior, and the kid cannot be expected to pay the price for the idiosyncrasies of the parents. Why does an adult have the right to be a deadbeat just because he didn't think things through?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:41 PM
1

Look at that statement, and give it some genuine, serious thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 03:01 AM
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I expect them both to do the right thing and support their kid. Woman made a choice to keep the child, so she has to provide shelter, food, and a decent standard of living for the kid. The man made a choice to have unprotected sex, so he has to at very least provide monetary support for his offspring. Regardless of the context, it's his kid, and that kid didn't get to choose the circumstances. Either he can take a hit in his paycheck, or a child takes a hit in their quality of life; the latter s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:43 PM
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Dude, you can think whatever you want. My sympathies are for the child. If she can raise him, good. If she's incapable, then the kid deserves a better home. The man made a decision to have unprotected sex and ejaculate inside of his partner, knowing that that's specifically how babies are made. He should do his part for his children, whether or not you view him as some unsung hero who has the right to be a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:37 PM
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Disagree. That's bizarre and makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:43 AM
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Shoulda worn a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:48 AM
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The payments are literally called Child Support Payments. They're pretty obviously for the good of the child. For whatever reason, she wants to raise the child. I can't speculate as to who these hypothetical people are, but the fact that she's raising the kid and it hasn't been taken away by child protective services implies that she has what it takes to do that. You don't give a shit about the kid. You just have sympathies for the husband who was too dumb to wrap his cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:48 AM
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So why shouldn't he? He helped make the kid, so shouldn't he support the child? In lieu of being there, he can at very least make sure his offspring has something resembling a comfortable life. It's not like she bought a car and he's on the hook for maintaining it. We're talking about a child who deserves a decent shot at food, shelter, and a basic education.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:04 AM
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Adoption would be passing the kid off (not that there's anything wrong with that; some people aren't meant to keep children). She's raising the child with financial support from the child's father. They're both making sacrifices for the good of their kid. He made a choice to sleep with her without using adequate protection. Regardless of who should "face the consequences," the child shouldn't suffer for their parent's lack of foresight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:58 AM
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Well she decided against an abortion, and she wanted to keep the kid. So abortion and adoption were off the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:43 AM
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He still played half the part in making the kid. It takes two to make a baby. It can be argued that she's putting in more work, since in this scenario the child is living with her and he wants nothing to do with the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:38 AM
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Like I said, that doesn't make them immoral, that just makes them (in your view) wrong. Thoughts are not immoral, actions are. If Joe is prejudiced against black people but treats the black people he meets pretty much the same way he treats everyone else, how is he behaving immorally? Thinking is not a crime. Those views don't exist in a vacuum. I live right on the border of West Virginia; I know enough "Joes" to know that those views affect more than the private space in a person's mind. They h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:28 AM
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Nothing, if that's what they're into. If someone says "I want a trophy sex maid" and finds someone who says "yes, I'm totally down with that," then they both win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:10 AM
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I didn't say that. Of course she is. If she's keeping the child, I assume the kid is living under her care and using the child support money for their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:08 AM
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Then the wife lost the high ground long ago, sometime around when she unilaterally decided to stop having sex with her husband. That's bad faith (reneging on a key understanding in the relationship) and ignoring her SO's input (obviously he would like to have sex with his wife). What's a better alternative when the attraction isn't there? Whether or not they're married, it's her body, and if she doesn't want to have sex then the two should address the heart of the issue, rather than him expectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:05 AM
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Like if the younger person is marrying an elderly person so they can get the money when their spouse dies, or an older person marries a young, insecure and impressionable person for a trophy, a maid, or a nubile sex-object.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:57 PM
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As long as they're consenting adults, I don't particularly frown upon an age difference. What matters is if the relationship is exploitative or genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:18 PM
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Well that's a tough break for both parties. But from a moral standpoint, you lose the high ground when you enter an interaction in bad faith, with the intent of ignoring your significant other's input. We are discussing morality, not practicality. The right thing isn't always easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:12 PM
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The premise that preceded the TL;DR don't seem sound to begin with. To assume that all women are giving you false information based on the notion that they believe world revolves around them is not in keeping with my standard of morality, regardless of how a sexist shows their work. Nuance was out the window to begin with; he didn't say "some women," or "most women," he issued a blanket statement that women aren't to be listened to or trusted. Bigotry Prejudice is not amoral. It is immoral. EDIT…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:09 PM
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Okay. But if your significant other doesn't have your best interests at heart, the answer isn't to ignore them. The answer is to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:25 PM
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Because the child in the situation didn't get a say, and deserves a fighting chance. If you don't want to get ill, wash your hands. If a man doesn't want a kid, he should take preventative measures, like a fresh, functioning, undamaged condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:37 PM
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I'm not the arbiter of morality, but in my personal belief, it is not immoral to ignore a statement that is purposeful misinformation from a hostile agent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:15 PM
2

There's your context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:14 PM
3

I guess the Lord did say "come as you are." Maybe that meant skateboarding into church wearing a thong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:41 PM
1

Yeah. Refusing to listen to someone because you "know better" is still immoral. If anything, making that blanket statement is even worse when it regards your romantic partner. In a relationship you should always make the effort to listen to your partner and take their input into account. They aren't a child, and what they say matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:37 PM
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The statement directly says not to listen to a person's point of view because they're female. Is it not immoral to willfully ignore someone's words solely on the grounds of them being different from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:28 PM
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In terms of modesty, you should consider the situation over your preference. I'm all for people dressing however they want, but if you show up to a religious service in a speed-o, it's pretty obvious what you're doing is inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:18 PM
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Because it advocates shit like: TLDR: Don't listen to women. What they say is at best a temporary description of their state of mind. A female statement is not like a man's, it is a product of solipsistic emotion and not rational logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:16 PM
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It's a delivery system for blatantly misogynous belief systems. It exploits people who could otherwise find positive self improvement (lifting, eating healthier foods, becoming comfortable with yourself) by swinging them towards shit that vindicates irrational, sexist frustrations. It also glorifies and lays out step-by-step guides for participating in potentially or outright demonstrably damaging behavior, like pressuring significant others into sexual acts that they aren't comfortable with, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:03 PM
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I took a test, expecting to be a Hufflepuff. There was a question about a troll under a bridge, and the dude jumps out and says "Oi, you guys gotta answer my riddle or best me in one on one combat! Choose wisely." My answer was "Let's all just kick his ass as a team." That struck me as the practical answer of an honest, hard working man. I'm a Slytherin, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 02:53 PM
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It's always stricken me as insecure. Even if it isn't a hardball question, action (or lack thereof), or comment, the moment an inquiry or interaction makes the involved RPer uncomfortable, it's regarded as a Shit Test. I don't doubt that the concept exists; certainly some people will bust your balls and stress-test you before deciding to give you their attention. But, a lot of these alleged Shit Tests basically boil down to "anything that challenges my comfort, intentional or otherwise."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 02:29 PM
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I say go for it. Comfort > Social Stigma. Those Instragram miracle strapless things look neat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:35 AM
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Assault, yes. I can fight back against a physical assault. Granted, I might lose and get shitmixed, but at least I keep my sense of dignity and pride. Murder, no. I have stuff to do, and people who might miss me if I straight up die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:56 AM
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Well I know I'd prefer most other forms of crime to being raped or sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:45 AM
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I have no idea. I was on the train and she was standing behind me, when I felt something sharp on my inner thigh. Then bam, her fingers shot up and closed like a bear trap. I still wince thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:42 AM
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But not sexual violence, which is what we're talking about. If you're afraid of violence in general, that's another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:34 AM
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I'd imagine that fear is sadly justified, considering men are generally larger and more dangerous, and women are typically more vulnerable to that sort of attack. Grown men don't generally worry about sexual assault because we don't generally have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:28 AM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:25 AM
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I'm genuinely curious; what exactly are you trying to prove here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:21 AM
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I had an older woman with acrylic nails grab my balls on a subway in Washington. I rarely think about it nowadays, and I don't really know the constant fear of sexual assault, but that was definitely one of the worst five minutes of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:19 AM
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That's all about how you spin it. Some people like to be known as assholes when it's glamourous. It makes them sound cool and tough and aloof, like Doctor House, or Rick from Rick and Morty. But there are plenty of insults that aren't glamorous, like being a hypocrite, or a douche, or in this case, a white knight. Hell, when those very people who want to be known as assholes are called out for what they are, edge-lords, they don't like it because it doesn't sound cool or appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:21 AM
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I donno. Kinda. It's never really held me back in life, but I'm not the best looking dude. I've never really thought about myself as ugly, but I'm not exactly Mark Wahlberg.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 11:09 PM
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Probably for the same reason that anyone would deny being a dickhead. When it's a legitimate charge leveled at someone who's actually doing it, they're not going to agree with you because in their mind, they're not doing it. They've justified their actions in their heads. Even if they're just coming to a woman's side for attention, they've already enamored themselves with the idea that they're being "noble." When it's not a legitimate charge, they'll say "no I'm not" because they're not. It's ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 11:05 PM
1

Rad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:44 PM
1

I don't get ya. Mind elaborating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:43 PM
1

I'm 40, soon to be 41. I got grey hair at the temples. A lifetime partner of 16 years. 2 kids. And an N-Count (gathered pre-wife) of 9. I've posted online for 20 years, and around RP for 3. I've got a red flair. And so has the wife. So. If you're looking for bonafides... Goddammit. I concede that point; you're my senior by a decade and a half. Now, back to the nitty gritty. It exists for their benefit, they have sold it to you as also providing you a benefit. But ultimately it's theirs, and I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:42 PM
1

I couldn't have put it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:41 PM
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Let's not be rude. I don't agree with what he has to say, but personal attacks won't change any minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:37 PM
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It's a me thing. Unlike your generation, keyboards were a relatively late addition to my ife (mid-twenties really). In handwriting you leave a space between the word and the Q mark. I naturally ported that into typing. It's stayed with me ever since, even though a couple of people have remarked on it over the years. Just looks "right" to me, and frankly it's an autonomous action now after all these years of typing. Aight. That makes sense. They don't make up bullshit feminist terms to attack wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:33 PM
0

I don't know where you live, but I'm in a first world country. There's not a draft going on, so people can pretty much live life as they want, gender roles be damned. I acknowledge that gender roles are a real thing; any abstract concept is "real" in the situation where it exists. I just don't think they should be the arbiter of how we live our lives. Pretty much the same as my opinion on toxic masculinity. It's a thing, but it has no bearing on how I intend to live. How about gender roles women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:03 PM
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Gender roles. I don't know where you live, but I'm in a first world country. There's not a draft going on, so people can pretty much live life as they want, gender roles be damned. No one calls it toxic femininity when it's the other way around. That too is blamed on men. I don't know what that is, or how it would manifest, but if someone shows me legitimate example of "Toxic Femininity," I'll be willing to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:50 PM
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Guys being guys. Where is it written that being a guy is synonymous with being a dick to someone who just wants some support when they're not feeling strong? Granted, my friends and I often fuck around and trade insults, but we tend to let up when it's a sensitive issue, or somebody's having a generally shitty day. There's such a thing as empathy and decorum. Seeking support when you're hurting or unsure is a perfectly natural and healthy thing to do, but some young men often ignore the urge to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:46 PM
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There's a pretty big difference between toxic masculinity and just being a man. They're not mutually exclusive concepts. What do you call it when a boy is interested in taking dance lessons, but he's worried his friends and family will think he's a pussy? Had he gone through with it, he could have nurtured a physical and difficult talent, met like-minded individuals, and been happy. That's being a man. But instead, because of an innate need to prove himself to his peers and the fear of being ost…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:42 PM
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5/10 5/10 9/10 4/10 9/10 7/10 2/10 8/10 9/10
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:39 PM
1

You're basing this on what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:25 PM
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A mutual, agreed upon attraction that involves equal footing and shared interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:46 PM
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Based purely on anecdotal evidence, don't a lot of men do the same thing? There are whole subreddits dedicated to bitter men who disseminate misogynous views based on the fact that they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:41 PM
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I'm not a Godlike bearer of sexual consensus, so I can't speak to the truth in that statement. However, if that's the case, I can live with it. If someone immediately dismisses me based on appearance, then they probably weren't for me. As for the "implications it reveals," it's pretty much the same with men. I don't jack off to inner beauty. EDIT: Feels weird posting here again. Feels weirder to lead off with a post that ends on masterbation. Good to be back!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:34 PM
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I'm not sure manspreading was even a thing. It was my understanding that some dudes on 4chan made it up to spur fake outrage and stir the pot. I've never seen it seriously addressed by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 06:47 PM
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Yes. Women were literally forced through violent and legal means to shut up and give up the struggle. And the same is happening to MRAs now. During the woman's suffrage movement, some women went on hunger strike. They were force fed. When's the last time an MRA had to endure something as horrific as force feeding? When's the last time anything actually bad has happened to an MRA that didn't involve being blocked on, or kicked off of Twitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 06:58 PM
1

There's that one chubby atheist guy who scammed a bunch of people and poured hot oil on his genitals. He's pretty baller. Who wouldn't want to be him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:22 PM
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I know how my sexuality works, and I'm not interested in a 12 year old. Morality aside (consider the damage such a "relationship" can do on your own time), they're small and flat and underdeveloped and have big heads and buggy eyes. Cute for sitcoms, but very far outside of any realm of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:09 PM
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Monogamy is partnership, not ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:00 AM
2

Right. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:42 PM
2

Well thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:38 PM
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If you're "trying to get me to understand," you're doing a terrible job. All you're doing is putting words in my mouth. You didn't even really address the fact that I consider all victims of sexual assault equally worthy of protection, be they male or female. Not infantilization; a victim of rape deserves the opportunity to heal, and if they so choose, seek justice via due process of the law. If you think that entails treating people as lesser, you're mistaken, not this "feminist media" boogeyma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:04 PM
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Who says all rape victims are female? One of my best friends, male, went through that ordeal and it took all the courage he had and all the support his family and friends could give for him to take his attacker to court. And do you just automatically assume rape charges are false? You're unpacking a lot of baggage that I have no frame of reference for, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:44 PM
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Hm. That seems more reasonable, but I'm still not onboard. It still seems highly sketchy, and puts undue pressure on victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:35 PM
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Absolutely not. If there's a punishment for losing a criminal court case, then why would an already scared victim come forward? And how, if the victim was telling the truth, could they ever be exonerated? Double jeopardy is still a thing, so you can't re-try the offender. That idea of someone being raped, having the courage to make a stand, losing the case and going to jail is absurd. It's an unacceptable miscarriage of justice, and it's a good thing it's only hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:20 PM
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I've never seen someone so effectively invalidate their own argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:00 PM
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I've really got no incentive to engage here if you're just here to unpack everything you feel about racial discourse. I typed two sentences. I don't really want an essay in response, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 07:34 PM
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To be honest, yes. While racists of other races are just as reprehensible, toxic, and dangerous in the immediate singular sense, the idea of even casual racism/sexism being a prevalent factor of American life is an existential threat to minority groups and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:19 PM
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This took a dark turn, man. I tried to connect with you through humor, bro. I don't even have a tumblr, dawg.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:24 PM
1

Yikes. I thought we were just doing a bit until you dropped that bomb. Jeezus Fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:11 PM
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It's not white people that TheBluePill has a problem with; it's cis white heterosexual men. You forgot something there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure you got banned when you tipped your hand and called someone a feminazi when they called you for being oversensitive. Nobody over there was shitting on white people. When that was pointed out, you ignored it and continued playing the martyr when it was you stirring the pot by pretending to see something that wasn't there. It's pretty obvious that this was your aim all along; to find a way to passive-aggressively be banned so you could complain about it somewhere else. To reiterate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:30 PM
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The premise of the question isn't even true. The majority of teachers who commit that sort of crime are male. Even if the scales were tipped in the other direction, that's no cause to ban an entire gender from teaching. It'd be like banning all men from real estate because you think they're more likely to commit petty theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:16 AM
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I'm not sure he's done something like that specifically (though with the recent accusations, it's certainly possible), but it does speak to his character as a man who aspires to be president. He has poor judgement, poor self control, and he'd make a poor leader for this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:13 PM
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I'd want it, sure. But I wouldn't expect it, and her declining to have her name altered isn't a deal-breaker. I do want my children to share my last name. Not sure how that would work, if she kept her last name. I think you'd do a hyphen and add both names, like the kid's last name is a law firm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:31 PM
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I believe that TRP has a right to speak their beliefs, but that doesn't extend to protections from people calling them out on it, or banning them from said discussion areas. If someone says that the Holocaust was a myth in class, they should be verbally shit on and thrown out. A private entity doesn't have the responsibility to host people like Milo Yiannopoulos. And refusing to grant someone a platform on your own property isn't censorship, it's being a stern and pragmatic host with the right t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:46 PM
1

Nah. I'd let a woman like that go her own way. But seriously, no. I don't think I could be with someone like that. Looks at me like I'm an interchangeable penis, misrepresents my grievances with her behavior online, sounds like someone who I would never see eye-to-eye with. No to the Machiavellian princess bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:59 PM
1

I'm a Christian. Officially I'm a Baptist, but I went to Catholic school for the last 3 years of high school. I was raised Christian, and with age I've grown to question some of it. Mostly the idea of God's characterization in general. The narcissism, the fury, and his selection of a "chosen people." I still identify as Christian, and live according to the precepts and rules of what a Christian should do, but some of the things God has supposedly allowed or done seem really out of place with my …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:53 PM
3

Racism is a pretty trashy personality aspect if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:48 PM
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Probably Emma Watson. She seems genuinely interesting, she's outspoken (not to mention very eloquent), and she's an attractive lady. I don't know her on a personal level, but the times I've seen her speak, I tended to agree. I'm not against dating a porn star, but I don't know anything about Asa Akira personalitywise, and after a brief google search, on looks alone, she's not what I'm particularly into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:46 PM
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doesn't fuck black guys What's the relevance of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:44 PM
1

Surely you realize how completely fucked that sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:02 AM
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Use it as best I could to aid the police in solving sex crimes. Law and Order: SVU; GoldPilot Edition. But seriously, I'd just put it in a closet. I'm not curious, and I don't think I should be allowed that kind of sensitive information involving someone's private life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:00 PM
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Unless you're in your early teens, chances are that you're not going to be someone's "first choice." During life, you fall in and out of love and relationships. I was my girlfriend's last choice because I was just that; her chronologically last choice. The fact that she's been with other people doesn't somehow diminish me as a person. It just means she had a life before me, as I had a life before her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:16 PM
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As much as she wants, as long as it's coherent and not yelling. Talk. Watch stuff. Most of it is just holding court by thinking out loud at each-other until a particular idea merits further discussion. Good. I think we can universally agree on that. Not really. I could go either way. Yes. Yes. Going back and reading my prior answers, I guess I prefer extroverted women, but I don't think it's so binary as to pick one or the other. As long as she expresses herself as freely as she wants, it's all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:37 AM
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So women have sex with people they find physically attractive, then settle with someone that they love and want to spend the rest of their lives with. What's the matter with that? Wouldn't you? For fuck's sake, I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:29 AM
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That's your youth. I mean your entire life. It's a damn shame to see people peak at twenty. Sure, college age women are attractive, but in your thirties, you're probably what and where you want to be, if everything has gone well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:25 AM
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You have to know how hollow that rings after everything you've said leading up to this point, right? I'm tapping out of this conversation. I cannot entertain this any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:48 AM
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What's the relevance of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:20 AM
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Yup. We all know incels are the leading authority on female biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:56 AM
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I don't really know how to define love. I guess my best, brief description is "mutual life." A common affection and effort, and a desire to continue your conversation and proximity. The cure for lost love is pretty much just time. Eventually, you can get out of bed and function, or you collapse into yourself for a while until you can. Once you have the motivation, you take the next step and move on with your routine while still dwelling on it. Then, you occupy your time with other pursuits. Afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:59 AM
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This is pretty clearly a troll post, but I'll address it as though it were serious. chad will have stretched her out with his beautiful hard 8" cock several times. Not how that works. Moving on to the actual question, 30 is the prime of a person's life. And if you go into a relationship with the caveat that you consider her a "used up cum slut," no, it's not going to work. It can work, but it probably won't given your outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:54 AM
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Thanks. Your answer is solid as well. Congratulations on finding someone so special. Don't mean to be rude in saying this, but my condolences for your father's death, and your assault. By contrast, I wept like a baby when my cat died earlier last year. You sound like a tough person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 11:54 PM
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I'll take anything someone gives me, other than one of those little green New Testament bibles, or a virus. You should approach someone and strike up a rapport before spending money on their drinks. If you waste cash sending people drinks, and they drink the drinks, that's really more your fault than theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 11:05 PM
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I've been in unrequited love (high school days), and am currently in what I assume is real love. I guess the way I'd describe real love, once you're in a relationship, as tension? It's all buildups, payoffs, doubts, and highs. It's a weird roller-coaster, but it's also like you're building the roller-coaster at the same time as you're riding it, carefully calculating and considering what you'll say and do, and then having your expectations dashed in a good way as you realize there was nothing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 10:56 PM
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I donno. Feels right, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 08:57 PM
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A lot of feminists are active in all those capacities, myself included. I'm a black man, so BLM represents a lot of my own frustrations and fears when it comes to dealing with society at large. I'm also a strong advocate of homosexual and transgender rights, and the majority of self identified feminists care just as much as I do about those things. Good on you for caring about all those things, but being a feminist does not preclude someone from caring about things outside the traditionally femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:50 PM
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Because femininity is what, in our society, ought to be uplifted and supported. Not just in women either. Men with effeminate personalities and hobbies tend to get shit on and bullied more often than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:23 PM
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I have to admit, I wouldn't know. Different people value me for different things. My friends find me funny, but open and serious enough to talk about certain subjects. My girlfriend thinks I'm a big goofy softy. I'd like to believe that there's some secret consensus that I'm super cool and strong, but most evidence points to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:08 PM
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What I love most about this is that it still doesn't ensure that these guys get laid. It's just restrictive, and a colossal killjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:59 PM
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So everyone would be prude and selective, and "losers" would still not get laid, since they'd still be at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to selection? Even with the idea in mind that something's inherently wrong with our current social system, this doesn't solve anything. It just ensures people are having less fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:57 PM
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What's the alternative? What would "restrained" female sexuality mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:54 AM
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Alright, but if a person lives as a female, is perceived as a female, and has all the societal perks and drawbacks of being female, what's their birth certificate matter? Beyond that, if, for the purpose of an online discussion, said female has insight regarding being treated as a female by a system that regards her as female, what exactly invalidates their ideas on womanhood? All the prerequisites of the debate are met from an experience standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:28 PM
2

I get a lot of these perks by being an incorrigible weasel.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:21 PM
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If you don't know a person's gender, you can just say "they." It's the preferred neutral, and it's way faster than banging out he/she. In this situation, she's said she's a woman, so there's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:41 PM
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It's a little odd. Not because it speaks poorly of a man's character, it's just unusual for a man to put his virginity out there as a fact about himself. Not many people would just assume, so if you don't talk about it, nobody would really know. I would never go as far as to say a man is weird for it. It's just one facet of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:42 PM
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Probably because she's not a particularly good person. Here's hoping the poor fellow moved on well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:38 PM
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Why don't you just explain in your own words? An explanation doesn't have to take the form of a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 02:53 AM
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I'd be fairly surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 01:47 AM
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I don't get hit on often, being an average looking male, but I can tell you it's pretty annoying to be approached when you know where you're going in the city, and you have things to do. It's like one of those bible thumpers tugging on your sleeve. Bothering you about your religion and trying to peddle those little green New Testament books; the difference being that a bible thumper isn't trying to wring an opening into your schedule and fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 08:30 PM
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It's not necessarily true, nor is it healthy to believe in, but it's possible. The world is chaotic. All you can really do at the end of the day is improve yourself and put yourself out there. If you latch onto any particular belief in hopes of finding companionship, then you're probably in for a difficult time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 07:04 PM
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Sure, I'd marry an ex-porn star. If we share common ground in other areas, I enjoy her company, and she's a "perfect partner," then previously being in the porn industry doesn't disqualify her. Hell, it might be interesting to learn about how the porn industry actually functions, if she's cool with talking about her experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 06:58 PM
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I like familiarity. I want to know what she likes, talk about things we'd like to try. I've never had that sudden "oh god we must fuck" moment. Usually it's on the table before it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:48 PM
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Long enough to know they're trustworthy. Few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:04 PM
2

Someone I know well, someone who I like, anticipated, someone I trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:59 AM
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My question is, does a victim like her even deserve the attention of the Vice President for, being a victim? I looked through many articles, I have never found another instance of Obama or Biden writing letters to other rape victims, either. Yes. As a government official, he has a responsibility to his people. Writing this open letter to a victim of a sexual assault was going above and beyond, and I think he's a good man for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 03:33 AM
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I don't have any particular dislike for it. What I find disturbing is a couple with a visible and oft leveraged imbalance in terms of power, or clearly older people preying on young, insecure folks for an easy lay. If two people meet and have a genuine romantic connection, and everything's on the level, then who am I to judge? If a 70 year old man is dating a 24 year old, and they're both consenting and into it, that's actually pretty goddamn cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:13 AM
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Being raped is absolutely not equivalent to loneliness. Someone being violently attacked, sexually violated and humiliated, and being close to certain that if you don't comply, that severe bodily harm will be visited upon you, or that you could outright die? You can church that up all you want, but even in the long term that's far worse than being turned down by your dates. The kinda shit a violent rape survivor endures haunts their dreams for the rest of their life if they don't get proper help…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 01:55 AM
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So quite possibly rape, then. Because "stop when I tell you," consent, safe words, mutual understanding; all of those things are very important to a sexual scenario where aggression is the turn-on. If you just do what you want to a person, and they say they don't like it, and you say "too bad," you'll go to jail for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:12 PM
1

You are joking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 02:41 PM
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I don't like him. He seems like a dangerous buffoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:30 AM
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I find that the majority of vehemently anti-pc people I've met are often annoyed by the notion of having to actually put in some effort to be funny. Racial/sexual humor can hit with some people, but to a lot of people it's hacky and awkward. To be genuinely clever, you have to relate to your audience on some level, and some of the people who I've spoken to who are outraged at "anti pc" have issues with that. When they say an overtly racist, sexist, or transphobic joke and nobody laughs (or worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:43 PM
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The idea that certain pursuits or traits that are perceived as "feminine" is invalid and devalues someone; even when those pursuits or traits are harmless, beneficial, or even fulfilling. I suppose the most stereotypical example is a son enjoying gymnastics, but he goes out for football so his father doesn't think he's a "queer." What chance does a kid have to be himself when he's constantly performing an act to please the people around him? And this idea that a man has to be the Captain of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:49 AM
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Sure. They just take some pee, blood, and a swab of saliva, right? I wouldn't mind doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 01:38 AM
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Yes. I have plenty of friends with a bunch of different views. We just rarely discuss them. The few times we have talked about it (stuff like our views on Black Lives Matter and the morality of dating), we were good enough friends to remain respectful of each-other's views even though we disagreed. Even in instances where we couldn't reasonably disagree, we just agreed not to talk about it anymore, and got on about our business.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 01:36 AM
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That was pretty goddamn funny, actually. I'd watch this, provided it isn't trying to make an actual point besides comedy. I have no other thoughts besides laughter. Wouldn't be nearly as funny. The women weren't even portrayed as enlightened leaders; where the men were being portrayed as victims and buffoons, the majority of women were portrayed as nutcases. It was a work of comedy, not a tragic oppression piece. I think it's a comedy. I don't view it as a valid critique on the human condition. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 01:25 AM
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A caveman and a stereotypical Microsoft employee respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 06:45 AM
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I don't know, and I'm not asking. That's a fucking weird conversation to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:56 AM
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Yes. Have you ever heard of a thing called "touch isolation?" The idea that men reserve prolonged physical contact solely for partners, or members of the opposite sex. The only males that I ever initiate or accept comforting physical contact with (I.E. hugs, an arm around the shoulder, etc) is my father or brothers. Any other touch from a man is sorta uncomfortable (I'm not homophobic, but a dude going in for a hug rather than a handshake makes me very uncomfortable). With women, there's a roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:23 PM
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I'm starting to think you're arguing in poor faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:10 PM
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You should write this down in your Manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 11:25 AM
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Yes, the implication does cut both directions; which is why extrapolating any data into the conclusion that one gender is unilaterally to blame is idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 05:40 PM
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What's the alternative? Being angry at every woman for aging faster and divorcing all over the place? And if we're making this a battle of the sexes type deal, what's your answer for 10% of men divorcing because "I donno?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 06:31 AM
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Well, not really, since my immediate thought isn't "us vs them" when viewing gender related studies. Also, just because the divorce was initiated by the woman doesn't mean it was her fault. If your wife started cheating, would you stand for it, or file for divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 06:23 AM
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Interesting, but not super surprising. Where I live, meth is a pretty widespread issue, and I hear stories about women leaving their husbands because getting hooked on the stuff turns them into a different person. Addiction is a bitch. The women's libido statistic certainly makes sense, having seen the Dead Bedrooms subreddit. Also, what's an Oreo Churro? EDIT: Does gambling rate anywhere? I'd be interested to see that stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 06:20 AM
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To BP: What does a man who doesn't have money or chooses not to pay for sex do in a world where most ridiculously attractive women are chasing money/status? Is there no other option than to be powerful/wealthy? I'd advise them to start a regular regimen of diet and exercise, get their life in order, and to work on their people skills. The BP way is that paying for sex takes away the value in it, and creates a society where women are objectified for their bodies. I don't particularly subscribe to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 01:03 AM
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If two people consent to the dichotomy of a captain/first mate relationship, that's alright in my book. My main problem with your quote (not RP in general, just your quoted text) is implication that a relationship must be this way to function, along with the general support of "race realism."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:22 PM
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Well, sex is a very intimate act. Whether it's casual, with someone you just met, or it's serious with a consistent lover, it carries a level of connection that you don't get with any other activity. It matters, and should only be undertaken with two consenting parties. But as long as those parties are consenting adults, they should be allowed to perform whatever manner of sex they enjoy without judgement or intrusion. Sometimes that means trusting someone very deeply before sharing that connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:24 AM
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Well, not everything, but there is certainly a baseline for acceptable behavior that the majority of people share. Like don't show pornography to children, or stab people, or lay on the ground and throw a temper tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:17 AM
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People in first world countries of sound mind, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:01 AM
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It's no stretch that acceptable behavior be common knowledge to a person. Acceptable in the general sense. Whether or not your actions demean yourself, or cause harm to the people you interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:27 AM
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Back in my sophomore year of high school, I lied about not being a virgin to get people off my back about the subject, since I wasn't particularly interested in sex back then. It was never a specific woman, of course; I just said I had sex with some woman I didn't know at a Halloween party. I wasn't insecure about it, I just wanted people to drop the subject, and I've always been a very easy liar. That trait has backed me into a corner many times, but I got off fairly scott-free in that instance…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:17 AM
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I've never understood the contempt for "Safe Spaces." I don't particularly need one, but I understand the need for it. When your life is made difficult by something you can't change, even if you keep a stiff upper lip about it, it's nice to have a social group or location where you can retreat, share your problems, and regain the morale and stamina it takes to get out of bed in the morning. I don't see that as any different from hitting up a pub when the world is getting you down. With no breaks…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:49 PM
0

No it's not. Fuckin' hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 07:46 AM
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I don't necessarily view it as bad. It's a way to minimize damage, but it could backfire. My advice would be to have an honest discussion with them first, rather than just ghosting them. If it becomes clear that the friendship can't work, then I'd say to cut ties. But, your way of doing it is probably universally cleaner, since talking to them about the situation might go sour really quickly. I've never had to rebuff someone I considered a friend, so I cannot and will not judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:42 PM
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In the grand scheme of useless posts on this sub, I assert mine isn't the worst. Hate to be petty, but the mods seem to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:55 PM
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Sometimes it's not a freedom but necessity to be an asshole, would you agree with that? No. Getting laid is not a necessity, since the majority of sex is for pleasure and there's no shortage of humans waddling around. There's always a high road; being an asshole out of necessity is, more often than not, a cheap solution for a confrontational, pusillanimous mind. Not all situations are best handled with courtesy and decency, especially with a volatile species such as human beings. We've been give…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:50 PM
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When a person is an asshole, there is no incentive. As long as it's not illegal, do whatever you want. Decency and courtesy are concepts that aren't enforced, except by social shame or unlawful retribution. If you don't care how people feel, then in a free country, you can more or less say whatever you want, barring certain circumstances. So go nuts dude. Say whatever you want. I'd envy that sense of freedom, if the concept of hurting people's feelings appealed to me in the slightest. EDIT: Come…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:36 PM
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Because exhalting or dismissing the end of someone's life is fucking depraved? Because he had a whole fucking world that he perceived, and people who cared about him, and now he's over and all his people miss him? Because when you die, you don't want someone verbally pissing all over your memory on the insanely petty grounds that they never met you, and the simplest fucking rule in life is to do onto others as you would have others do onto you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 04:21 PM
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Minor semantic nit-pick, but one cannot be truly magnanimous if they're also arrogant and violent. Magnanimity is greatness of mind and heart. Humility. Compassion. Refusal to be petty. To describe someone in that manner, then to say they're prone to violence and arrogance is a bit of a contradiction. Hell, magnanimity seems more a beta trait than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:55 AM
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While it did start out as a set of ideas regarding dating and gender, I don't think any particular idea or ideology, much less the Red Pill, has a concrete answer. It evolves and changes with its majority. Just like the democratic party is vastly different from its genesis, or how feminism has changed over the years. If you ask different people, you'll get a different answer. If you asked me what Feminism is, along with another Feminist, you'd get two different, but roughly valid answers. A rock…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 06:15 AM
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Jesus, people. A man's dead. I know it's far from your life since you didn't know him or know about him, but can we show a little common decency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 03:01 PM
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Dumb stereotype. First of all, the idea of masculinity itself isn't toxic, it's the harsh judgement of perceived weakness or femininity in men. The pursuit of hobbies such as dancing, gardening, or predilections that cause no harm, but you restrain yourself because it isn't "manly." The idea that men have to be machines contributes to stress and suicide. Second, my facial hair looks horrible, so I'm clean shaven. Cool straw man though. You've surely giving it more thought than none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 02:20 PM
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That's how people tend to meet, though. Introduce yourself, strike up a conversation, establish a rapport, add them on whatever the fuck social media, meet again, go from there. It's only creepy I you make it creepy. Just don't make an ass of yourself. How else can you meet people, outside work or internet? You walk up and put yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:43 AM
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I worked sales. My experience working sales was in no way equivalent to my sexual encounters. I've never had sex where there was "resistance" or a "no" involved. The one time a girl has ever expressed doubt or concern, I broke body contact, drove her home, and watched Men in Black at my place. EDIT: It was a kitchen appliances store. Sold knives and pans and other essentials to prepare food and keep a kitchen running. I wasn't particularly pushy, I just learned stuff about the person and made ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:24 AM
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I'm gonna take a break from this place. This is all just a fucking bummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:13 PM
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Violent resistance is not a prerequisite for rape. A lot of women freeze up out of fear, or acquiesce because he's not going to stop unless they give in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:49 AM
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Redpiller asks Bluepillers about compassion. Another Redpiller immediately mocks him. Circle of life, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:01 AM
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I don't understand the question. Come to think of it, I never quite understand what you're on about the first time around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:58 AM
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Well, my reaction would be; Goddamn dude. Congrats! Can I have your trainer's number? You're not on 'roids, are you? That shit messes with your brain, and demolishes your genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 07:23 AM
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Of the five genderfluid people I know, they all prefer "they" as a pronoun. And as far as social phenomenons are "real," the gender identity's evolution is as real as any cultural evolution. Whether or not you recognized it or bury your head in the sand is immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:44 AM
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Well, when selecting a mate, not all people ARE equal. You don't want to just date anyone, and it's your choice to pick and choose if you have multiple options. Equality does not necessarily mean romantic success, nor should it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:42 AM
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Would you honestly rather have men be suddenly require to wear nipple coverings than allow women to go topless if they want? Command decision; you're the arbiter of all nipples, and it's your choice. Which button do you push; make men cover up, or allow women to choose whether or not to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:41 AM
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Would you honestly rather have men be suddenly require to wear nipple coverings than allow women to go topless if they want? Command decision; you're the arbiter of all nipples, and it's your choice. Which button do you push; make men cover up, or allow women to choose whether or not to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:41 AM
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While being a licensed psychiatrist is admirable, I don't think there's a colossal crossover between that field and this image. You may as well be an paleontologist. It's a picture of women in ski masks topless. There's not much there to psychoanalyze. So what do you think about AWALT and the rationale behind stigmas, divorce rape, and lost property men are fighting against? While women hiding their faces isn't fear, is men acting cautious thinking AWALT, fear, then? Or is it rational? I await y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:26 AM
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80% of people are not that different from one another Based on what? Even seemingly stereotypical people have depths that can be explored if you're willing to get to know the particular person. when people spout out the "everyone is special" nonsense they are implying that this is some sort of an advantage, when in reality more often than not the opposite is true. You'll excuse me if memes don't change my mind. The point of celebrating differences isn't for utilitarian purposes. You can learn a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:13 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't quite understand; are you saying that the women are man enough to handle backlash, or the men are man enough to handle backlash for showing their nipples? There is no backlash for male nipples. None whatsoever. As for the women being afraid, as I explained ad nauseam below, it isn't necessary fear, but a rational need to not have topless pictures on the internet, due to the very stigmas and laws that they're fighting against.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:19 AM
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People are pretty demonstrably discriminated against for being transgender. It's only recently that the mainstream is tilting towards their acceptance. And what's the issue with someone being gender fluid? Just call someone what they want to be called.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:13 AM
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...Where exactly is the equality in attempting to control someone's behavior, or their freedom to choose their own life partner? Sounds pretty fascisty to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:11 AM
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Whooooooooooooooooooooa that's not what I meant I do not endorse this message, I hereby distance myself from this particular platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:24 AM
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Well, we're alive. It's up to us to get the ball rolling towards change, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:36 AM
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"You got to be nice" You don't have to be nice, but it's the decent thing to do. "Every human is equal" Shouldn't they be? "Every human is a special unique snowflake" Everyone is "special" just based on the fact that they're occupying their own specific area in space, and their perspective is different from the schmuck standing to the left. I think difference and individuality should be celebrated. It's certainly annoying when people put on affectations to drive the point home, but this "special…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:19 AM
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Not for nothin', but this seems less and less about them, and more about your strawman of what a feminist is and "should be."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:38 AM
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Touching a person without consent is wrong either way, but this discussion isn't about unwarranted grabbing, it's about what a person wants to do with their own body. But the fact that a judge or jury might through out a legitimate sexual assault on a man isn't a particularly good thing, it's just emblematic of even more double-standards in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:26 AM
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Right on, holmes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:11 AM
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Are they actually genitals though? Male nipples, despite lacking the same priority to store fat, can also lactate if prompted to mature. They're more or less biologically the same. People with sexual predilections towards men also admire a good set of pecs. The only difference is the societal prerogative to pedestalize and cover a woman's breasts. So why shouldn't men be required to cover up their breastisis? Or, better still, why can't it be left to the owner of any rockin' tit, male or female,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:11 AM
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Once again, it may not be, and probably isn't, shame. They might be legitimately concerned for their actual ways of life if their faces are seen. Like going to a peaceful protest while wearing a gas mask and goggles. Or, like Littleknownfacts just noted, they could be showing solidarity for the band Pussy Riot. EDIT: Rephrased the first sentence for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:48 PM
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Huh. Neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:46 PM
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Shame and rational caution are two different things. Pride doesn't put money in your banking account.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:34 PM
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Well, taking my innate boner motives and breast predilections completely out of the equation, it's a demonstrable example of laws applying differently to separate sexes. A male is allowed to take off their shirt in public, but a female isn't. That, in and of itself, is technically unfair, no matter how you look at it. Even if a woman doesn't view their breasts as innately sexual objects, and seeks relief from a heat-wave, they'd still be operating outside the law, whereas a man can show off his …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:26 PM
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The first time I've seen a subreddit dedicated to reasonable discussion of Men's Rights issues, that wasn't wrapped up in adversarial anti-feminist twaddle, the MRA community at large brigaded and railed against it. Check out r/MensLib. From what I can recall, they actually have their heads on straight there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:47 PM
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You can more or less nullify that threat with an anti-HPV injection. Gardasil or some such vaccination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:09 PM
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Nah. I don't think he's wrong. Granted, I'd do it, but I wouldn't frown upon a man who declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:09 PM
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At what point is Dread Game pleasurable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 03:25 PM
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That's a damn good pick for a damn good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 03:20 AM
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This. I want to be a cyborg.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 03:19 AM
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I don't disagree with that in the slightest. Except the link; I don't have a counterpoint, I just can't be bothered to read it. No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 01:22 AM
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By "victims of circumstance," I was referring to guys who get called white knights for doing seemingly benign things, like agreeing with a woman's talking points genuinely. Other than that, I agree with some of your points. As for the ones I disagree with, I'm a feminist and I frequent Gamerghazi, so that ought to put my qualms in perspective. Not taking away from your overall point, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 01:19 AM
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Those guys who call themselves "chivalrous" are pretty sad. They make a list of things they think women want, and carry them out without listening, or even bothering to understand what those women are probably pretty clearly conveying; that those guys are annoying as fuck, and that their conduct is largely considered embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 01:17 AM
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Huh. I imagine he's perfect for that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:46 PM
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Our hero finds these women, picks them up, then quickly moves in and has her buying him nice jewelry, making his car/cellphone payments, and loaning him money for gambling/drugs which he never pays back. I think "hero" is a bit of a stretch. All in all, that's kind of a horrifying thought. It'd make for a good movie, if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:28 PM
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On the way back, I was out of stuff to say to her. She was vapid and boring. EDIT: I'm not agreeing with you, but from a comedic standpoint, I really like the idea that even though I made up the story, I still lost the fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:16 PM
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Actually, I kinda agree in those two cases. The first incident that got my ass kicked was my best friend's girlfriend. I was making an attempt to get to know her a bit, since she'd be around every time we hung out on the weekend. We were doing a convoy thing to a party, and someone pulled over to get gas. While everyone else was shooting the shit in the parking lot, she wanted to get something from the Wendy's two blocks away, so I offered to walk her over so we could chat. On the way back, a du…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 09:19 PM
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Yes, it is. Regardless of whether or not the person who says it harbors antipathy towards gay people, it implicitly states that the person is lesser for being "gay" or "queer." It's not even the subtext, it is the text. Calling someone a "queer" and expecting it to bother them is homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 03:57 AM
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Yeah, it was pretty meaningless. I don't remember the girl's name, and it took place in the back of my older brother's car. I only managed to seal the deal because I had an amazing wing-man. Frankly, I'm glad that's how it worked out. I don't have a gold standard that I want to recapture; it's all been (mostly) uphill from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:26 AM
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Well I'm not a God, so I wouldn't actually know. I'd say that 90%, in either direction, is pretty high when making an assumption about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:38 PM
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When they actually, demonstrably confirm it. I don't make presumptions about people until I've actually spoken to them, or if someone I trust informs me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:36 PM
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I don't believe that no women are like that, I believe not all women are like that. It's a pretty big difference. TRP overgeneralizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 07:40 PM
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...What the hell? How'd that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 03:46 AM
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Huh. I went in the other room to jack off. Can't do it with other people in the room. Still, good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 02:15 AM
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Of course it's happened to most men. I'm just gaguing the difference between RedPill, BluePill, and PurplePill answers. And, as for the second part of the question: how do you handle being told that your partner isn't in the mood, or being asked to stop during? I imagine, giving the nature of your response, you're a gentleman about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 01:00 AM
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Whenever she's comfortable with it. I wouldn't consider the possibility of me dating a virgin realistic at my age, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker, just slightly odd. On the other end of the spectrum, her N-count really wouldn't influence my expectations on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:51 PM
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How come BluePillers never get any actual, good questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:11 AM
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I've said this before, but all self defense should be proportionate to the actual threat level. Punching out someone physically weaker than you just to "get even" is barbaric. If you're the physically stronger person in a confrontation, it's your responsibility to keep a level head, and end the conflict without doing excessive damage. Unless it's a serious threat, like the person has a weapon, then dealing excessive harm to someone who can't realistically fight you is wrong. This "equal rights, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:46 AM
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The ability to live with the same opportunities and rights as everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:38 AM
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No, I don't think that's remotely fair. I also don't think it's the consequence of feminism, either. If the state can get a man to pay for a child, then the state doesn't have to. Anyone with an interest in actual equality wouldn't advocate for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 02:23 AM
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Noice. I'm back on top! Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:16 PM
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Huh. I didn't know that. You learn something new every day. EDIT: Downvote? Why? I literally didn't know, and I like to learn stuff. People around here downvote for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:57 PM
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This isn't a very good brain-wave, man. But, in the interest of dialogue, I'll do what I can to respond. why women are totally running ammok today That seems like a very personal view, and a matter of your perception. In nature and a natural state of living ( last 2'300'00 years of hominide evolution ) People weren't particularly happy or restful back then. Their interactions with the world were based on survival and propagating their genes. Could it be, that women are running ammok todays, BECA…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:54 PM
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Sure, why not. Some people might like it if they gave it a chance. I would not want to go down that road personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:17 AM
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Have her get tested, sternly condemn her actions, sit her down and talk to her about safe sex and why it's unwise to get romantically involved with criminals, and forbid her from seeing that young man again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:14 AM
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Hm. His angle is rather male-centric, and his poetry isn't very good, despite it's objectively good message. Maybe they met him personally and didn't like him? I'm not really sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:47 AM
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To critique his poetry, he seems like a discount Shane Koyczan. A bit too heavy-handed, and doesn't flow well. As for his message, his heart's in the right place, and I don't disagree with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:04 AM
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I had sex with no condom once, when I was too dumb to know better. The opportunity presented itself, I didn't have a condom to use, so I pulled out. Looking back, I'm very lucky I didn't end up catching something, or fucking up and getting her pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:52 PM
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They could probably nod yes, or use sign language. It's not very difficult to know what means stop and what means go; verbal consent doesn't have to slow things down if it's done organically. This consent paranoia thing is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:39 AM
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To me If you ask me Not everything in life is relative to your perspective, you know. In every single person, there's an entire world that you can only ever begin to perceive by actually asking that person. So boiling it all down to "they're angry because they're jealous" isn't a particularly effective argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:27 AM
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There's a difference between personal identity and racial representation. Ignoring race as an issue isn't helpful to actually meeting the problem. Granted, violence on the part of BLM advocates isn't helpful either, and I find the rioting disgraceful, but completely taking race out of the equation with the "All Lives Matter" battle-cry ignores the why; black people are viewed as a higher threat because of ingrained prejudice, putting them at greater risk when a police officer makes a snap decisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:02 AM
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Well, ALMOST everybody likes cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:30 AM
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No, not at all. Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:28 AM
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Man. That's certainly a downer to think about; someone feeling lost, abnormal, and unsafe by virtue of where they were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 04:15 AM
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"Escapism world" thing then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 03:49 AM
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I suppose I should have said it's a "first world" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 03:26 AM
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You sure make it sound like it's about race when you throw out comments like White people are murdered and raped by blacks at a substantially higher rate than the other way around. ANY unwarranted death justifies outrage. The police are meant to be trained and paid to protect all members of a community. When their presences jeopardizes the lives of an entire demographic, that justifies outrage. And enough of this "all lives matter" shit. This may be news to you, but if a doctor breaks your leg, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 03:13 AM
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Thanks, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 03:02 AM
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Bettie Jones. An un-involved fifty-five year old woman who was asked to look out for the police by neighbors during a domestic abuse incident. She was shot in the throat. Tommy Yancy. A thirty-two year old veteran. His car was missing a license plate, so they pulled him over, and he was subsequently attacked by a K9 unit, then beaten to death. And whether or not you consider Michael Brown to be "innocent," the fact is that he was unarmed, and that lethal force was clearly disproportionate to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:48 AM
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As legitimate as calling all black people who have been unjustly shot by the police criminals, and squarely placing the responsibility of dozens of unarmed black people on the black community. The way BLM is handled has never entirely been copacetic with my view of the way a nonviolent movement should be run, but that kind of closed-minded response is pretty indicative of a way of thinking that can't be resolved by me wasting my time in an argument. So, sorry I didn't bother with a "legitimate r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:13 AM
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I can live with that assessment from a dude like you. EDIT: Rephrased a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:45 AM
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It certainly isn't the most noble of professions, and it's a shame that it's all some young people aspire to. But, in the end, it's an easy line of work; stay in shape, stand in front of a camera, and otherwise never work a day. It's lame, but there's a certain genius to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:22 AM
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"Everybody" or "anybody?" Those mean two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 12:58 AM
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They're meant to pander to either people with no troubles, who are so affluent and secure that the problems of the world don't reach them, or as escapism, to make "glamorous" problems and drama seem more important than pressing issues in the world. American fixation on style and escapism is a double edged sword. It's indicative of how safe our world is, and it also distracts people from genuine problems. That's one of the reasons why people look down on the Black Lives Matter movement; they feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 12:55 AM
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Aren't post titles supposed to be neutral?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:34 PM
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It sounds to me like you're simply not used to getting attention in your normal life. I imagine if you're given attention every day since puberty, you become inured to it. So, my hypothesis is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:32 PM
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So why did you? I didn't. At no point did I render a judgement on your actions (Since you didn't list any to judge); I simply noted that some of your wording sounded a bit disturbing. Why should I limit it and why do I need your permission? You don't. You can do whatever you want. I'm just giving you a suggestion based on being a human being. If you don't care, that's your prerogative. Listen and agree. And do whatever you were going to do anyway. If you're fine with wronging or hurting people, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:31 PM
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Oh. "Buckaroo?" For what it's worth, I didn't mean anything by it, and I'm sorry it came off as rude. Anyway, I don't know what the method or the reward are, and frankly, without that information I'm in no place to render personal judgement. Hell, I've heard the same basic formula applied to being gay (it's not hurting anyone, why shouldn't I get to be the person I am on the inside, all that jazz) and I supported it then. I think that straight up not caring about what other people think is a dan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 04:20 PM
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You don't even know what it is and the rewards I'm getting why did you say it's not worth doing? What if what I'm saying is not about RP? Well, if that's the case, what the hell does it have to do with Purple Pill Debate? Being intentionally vague, and then calling people out for not knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 03:56 PM
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Between the two, bridal carry. But, I tend to let people sit on my shoulders a lot. Sometimes it's girls, but mostly it's my younger brother. We've accomplished a great many missions by combining our power thus; his brains, my brawn, in an undefeated totem pole like gestalt of stronk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 03:38 PM
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That "sometimes" in parenthesis is pretty disturbing. I don't object to the self improvement aspects of RP. Get in shape, get your life together, learn to like yourself, stop placing all your hopes and dreams and expectations on people; all those things are common sense. What, exactly, are you doing? What're your "methods" outside of that? If your only defense for something is that it's not illegal and that you benefit from it, it sounds like that "something" might not be worth doing just to cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 06:05 AM
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Everybody likes cats, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 05:49 AM
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Thanks! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:55 PM
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I tend to make the offer to pay. If she doesn't offer to split it, I usually think nothing of it. Dorky as this may sound, I believe if you're physically stronger or more readily available than someone, male or female, you have an obligation to at least offer to lend a hand, and to restrain yourself and do no harm even if they're pissing you off. I don't know if that's chivalry, but I'm pretty sure that some form of obligation is alive. Yes and yes. I support abortion. I do not support the death…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:49 PM
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Much obliged, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 01:50 PM
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I get downvoted pretty regularly. It's pretty disappointing, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 01:30 PM
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Sure, I'd do it. It probably wouldn't be long term; I'd like to have children at some point. But if she was down for something fun and informal, but finite, I'd give a transgender woman a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:19 PM
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Probably the anti-PC bent and the AWALT angle. If it were just a self actualization based self improvement thing, then it'd be it'd be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:35 AM
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Yeah, under the right circumstances. If things get boring, we could always take a break, or spice things up. If she's a good partner, then sex isn't everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:05 PM
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I'm getting uncomfortable with the amount of little girls and underage women used in TRP metaphors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:04 PM
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What did those pictures have to do with anything, and how old were those girls? What did that add? It just made me moderately uncomfortable. You were SUPPOSED to start dating your wife when she was like 16-22 and you were the same age. That way you'll be able to enjoy her optimal beauty and innocent years before she starts to decay and become corrupted. Nobody's supposed to do anything. We all live different lives, with varying amounts of success, romantically or otherwise. Telling men to whip t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 05:47 AM
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True, but the radicals are also ineffectual fuckwits. I believe the average RP member is something that precludes them from thinking that big; selfish. They care about finding a method to get them laid specifically. They don't particularly give a fuck about creating a world that's ideal for every other man. That lack of worldwide ambition is both sad (in the sense that they don't actually give a rats ass about all men), and rather salubrious for the rest of the planet. But, then again, I could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:42 AM
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I don't think it's about that on a societal scale, but they certainly wax poetic about "better times" where women couldn't choose their mate, and men had access to whatever women they earned. If left to their own devices, they'll just get laid, be bitter, and live out their lives. They'll get theirs, "enjoy the collapse," and die off as society progresses towards the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:07 AM
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The Red and Blue Pillers. Purple Pillers are also welcome to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 11:57 PM
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An aversion to nuance and complexity is one of the hallmarks of TRP. That, I admit, I can relate to; it's easier to eyeball a problem by simplifying it. I just don't do it with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:30 PM
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Indeed. I firmly believe that people who make the argument for doing the most "logical" (in this type of scenario) thing are just seeking an excuse to be a douche to targets they dislike. EDIT: I edited in the parenthesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:17 PM
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Why is it that the most "logical" route always involves playing the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 09:16 PM
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I suppose it depends on your walk of life. Different amount of strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 09:13 PM
0

Holy shit that's impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 03:14 PM
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24, n-count is 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 03:11 PM
1

If she's mine, the fuck do I have to be jealous of? Also vice versa; I'm not a flirt, so she rarely exhibits much in terms of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:36 AM
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Kinda. Depends on the context. A woman made me very uncomfortable at a party once with her advances, so I left.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 07:22 PM
1

Well, plenty of us have preferences. Could you expand upon your definition of "pre-select" in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 07:19 PM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 09:06 PM
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Yeah, I don't disagree with that. It's not a long term solution, but it's nice to have a physical interaction without fearing judgment or social stigma. It's also just nice to bust a nut. I've never seen a prostitute before, but almost every time I've had sex, there's been some sort of weird social thing afterwards. I wasn't bad, mind you, something bad just always happened. Once there was a lot of awkwardness with her afterwards, and we stopped being friends. Once I accidentally put my hands to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:14 PM
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I'm not misrepresenting you; Yes, you really are. You just said that I'm fine with more rapes happening, and you seem to think that my interpretation of having decent beside manner with a rape victim means I'm fine with it happening again, as long as they feel good. That's absolutely not what I'm saying, and frankly it's insulting. And you're downvoting literally every comment I make in this exchange, which pretty clearly points out that you don't have any faith in a real discussion. You win. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:04 PM
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That sucks (in both instances). I've had some traumatic things occur in my life as well. I can imagine how horrifying it was to have a gun pointed at you, and how frightening it feels to experience that total loss of control over a situation, and the fear of impending death. I can see your logic. I disagree in some areas, but I can see where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:58 PM
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When "care for the victims" means sugarcoating information that could save people from being raped in the first place, no, that doesn't matter just as much. If a crime can be prevented that's a far better outcome than allowing the crime to happen and later providing solace to the victim. Caring for a victim by refraining from language that makes them feel worse does not statistically increase rape. Comforting a person who's been through a traumatic event doesn't somehow open the door to them get…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:52 PM
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I didn't say I felt nothing. My family lost a lot, monetarily and sentimentally. I lost my gamecube, my room's television, and a bunch of other stuff that it took me a year to afford again. My Dad lost his grandfather's coin collection, which had medallions from the hospitals where me and my brothers were born. The police didn't care, and it took them months to do anything, even though we knew exactly who had done it (my babysitter's drug addict boyfriend). Even though we never got that stuff ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:48 PM
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Of course I care about reducing the instance of rape, but the fact is that people are still being raped, and what matters just as much as prevention is care for the victims. If you don't care about what "feels bad" to the victim, then why care about it at all? It kinda speaks to a lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:17 PM
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I've had my home broken into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:43 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:19 AM
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I'll admit, it took me a few minutes to even make heads or tails of this. What I'm telling you is that if someone gives advice to someone who is unraped, then it's not victim blaming. If you give advice to someone who has been raped, it's victim blaming. Victim blaming = suggesting that a victim should have altered their behavior to avoid being raped. It's not necessarily blame, but to a victim, it can often feel that way. Though I doubt you care, since you put it to me earlier that being beaten…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:17 AM
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...You've got to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:10 AM
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The notion that rape is some sort of special crime is rooted in the outdated idea that the value of a woman is closely tied to her purity. That's the only reason it's considered more heinous than a mugging. Why would you want to support that mentality? Rape doesn't only happen to women, dude. Many boys and young men are victimized and it scars them for life, even if there's no inherent physical harm. It's not just about purity; there's a sense of powerlessness and fear. Not to mention that if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:08 AM
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Blaming is to assert that the cause of a crime was the victim. That's like saying something about the woman possessed a man to rape her. This has nothing to do with suggesting precautions. I'm referring to suggesting precautions to a person who's already been raped. In my first post, I said; If you're making the suggestion to someone who hasn't been raped, then no. You're presenting a helpful floating suggestion that people take precautions, whether that be avoiding a certain street, or to trave…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:59 AM
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Because rape is just different. It's a special kind of hurt that lives with you forever, and pointing that stuff out to a victim after they've lived through it is obtuse. I don't have any logic to back that statement, sure. All I can tell you is what I know from experience as a person. If someone's been raped, you comfort them unconditionally, or you leave them alone. Pointing out steps they could have taken, outside of an official and consenting capacity (like if you're a self defense instructo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:52 AM
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Not really. The feeling of deep, personal violation and fear, even when scaled down, isn't the same as being anonymously stolen from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:45 AM
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Ah, friendship. It's always nice to know when the hard times come, there's always someone to make me silently ignore the things they say. I don't need comfort, or levity. I just need for someone to barb me while I stew with silent rage. ...I joke, but that is kinda what my actual friends are like. Those<sup>little</sup><sup>fuckers.</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:40 AM
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I'm not asking 90% of parents, I'm asking you. If someone confided in you that they'd been raped, would you point out the steps they could have taken to avoid it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:38 AM
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You just pasted the same response to me as you did to wombatinaburrow. ...Anyway, like I said in the previous post about this abysmal topic, there's a pretty colossal difference between the loss of personal property and being raped. It's a bit annoying, but perfectly acceptable to advise someone to lock their window. But telling someone who's been raped that their conduct was the cause isn't helpful. And I didn't say anyone was "salty." I said they were salting the wound. It's a pretty common ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:32 AM
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No, no, I get where you're coming from. I'm aware that it's not literal blame. But giving someone advice on how to avoid being raped, after they've been raped, is not helping that person. And of course a person is innocent until proven guilty. I won't even get into the utter shit-show it is to be accused of rape when you're innocent. But, let's keep in mind that in this hypothetical scenario that everyone is dog-piling my inbox over, the victim is telling the truth and identified the right guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:24 AM
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Sure, why not. I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:20 AM
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C'mon, man. That's not what I said and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:20 AM
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Well I can see why it'd come off as annoying and condescending to someone who just wants to go out and have a good time. Even good advice can come off as grating in the wrong context. And your friend would probably punch you for saying that. He wouldn't be right, and I don't condone it, but he probably would.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:14 AM
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Okay, I'm sorry you feel I disrespected the analogy, but they are, in my opinion, hugely different scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:10 AM
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But if we try to warn women to be careful before, you also cry. No I don't. MULTIPLE times on this post (and in other posts regarding rape as well) I've said that I advocate learning self defense, and being prepared. What I do not advocate is telling someone what they could have done after the fact, as it's tactless and unhelpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:08 AM
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So you don't feel a little bit like a dick for pointing those steps out to someone after the fact? Doing so, to me, seems like a dick move.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:05 AM
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Is it victim blaming to suggest girls to take certain precautions to not get raped? If you're making the suggestion to someone who hasn't been raped, then no. You're presenting a helpful floating suggestion that people take precautions, whether that be avoiding a certain street, or to travel in groups during certain times. I can imagine it'd get annoying though, if you're not that person's friend or you constantly bring it up. If they have been raped, then yes, it is victim blaming. It's really …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:58 AM
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I think a culture of accusing the perpetrator rather than the victim would be totally radical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:45 AM
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I'd say that's a matter of perspective. Your outlook seems fairly bleak to me. Though, I'd be lying if I said there weren't aspects of society that I'd like to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:40 AM
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Consider this. There's a pretty big divide from me having my stereo stolen to me being raped. "Sorry son, but that rapist caught you slippin'. You shouldn't have been drinking at a social event, sucker." If my Dad said that after I was raped, I'd be pretty unhappy with his parenting approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:37 AM
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I encourage my friends to stay safe and protect themselves, yes. But there's a pretty big difference between telling people to stay safe before something bad happens, and telling them to stay safe after something bad happens. If I tell my friend to lock his car before it gets robbed, then I'm doing them a helpful favor. If I tell them to lock their car after it's been robbed, I'll probably get a huge "no shit, Sherlock." Now, take that and scale it up to rape. Judging by the head-space that a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:33 AM
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Yes. I lock my door, and if I saw my friend leave his car door unlocked, I would advise them to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:16 AM
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I agree with part of your general sentiment; it's important to know how to protect yourself. You have a personal responsibility to keep yourself safe when nobody else can. But, regardless of any lapse in judgement, the attacker is the one who pulled the trigger. Putting blame on the victim, or "holding them accountable" isn't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:14 AM
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Of course I do. But, if someone doesn't, and they get their shit stolen, that mistake doesn't put them in the wrong. The person who robbed their car acted outside of the law. Carelessness doesn't exemplify you from civil rights, and it doesn't somehow make you morally lesser. It means someone had the nerve to fuck over you while your guard was down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:07 AM
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That would make a pretty interesting story. Like a reverse Taming of the Shrew.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:00 AM
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How do you hold someone accountable for personal irresponsibility? Is being raped the just punishment for going out drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:56 AM
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Then they want to call it victim blaming when you suggest they take some responsibility and protect themselves. Well, yeah, it is victim blaming. Whether or not it's a logical point to make, you're blaming the victim for the acts of the perpetrator. While I personally believe that everyone should learn basic self defense and drink responsibly, I also believe that a person ought to conduct themselves as they damn well please. If a person assaults you, it's on them. EDIT: Fucking fuuuuuuck. I shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:42 AM
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“Look at that face — would anyone vote for that?” Lol. Like he's some sort of Adonis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 12:52 AM
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Sure, why not. I'd give it a whirl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 02:45 PM
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I don't think, beyond self defense or to diffuse a violent situation, there's ever a reason to hit anyone, especially someone physically weaker than you. Someone being a "bitch" or "hysterical" is no reason to hit a person. If someone was threatening me, I'd react proportionately. Hitting someone over words is goon status. James Bond is a fictional character, and barring that factor, of course he's not in love with the women he courts. They die all the time. He's depressed, and he's an alcoholic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:14 AM
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Honest work will get you farther in life than you think. And why is this suddenly about Anita Sarkesian and Zoey Quinn? I'd imagine that the three people I named did a little more than critique video-games and rile up a bunch of whiny gamers. As fair and agreeable I think Anita's work is, I'd hardly call her an "idol." If we're looking for idols, I'd look no further than Jim Sterling. He's a titan of the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 12:56 AM
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Suit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:02 PM
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Why not just report the comment? Those things are against the rules, and reporting it would be far more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 09:52 PM
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I don't downvote. If something clearly breaks the rules, I report. Anything else seems petty and idiotic. I get downvoted plenty tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 09:50 PM
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If you channel your anger into something good, then it can be a good thing. Righteous fury has compelled people to do good stuff. It can just as often (probably more often than not) get people to do bad, stupid, self defeating things. Really, it depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 09:47 PM
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Martin Luther King Jr, Mohandas Ghandi, and Nelson Mandala are my heroes. They walked through the world, saw shit they didn't like, and they fixed it. That's what a man out to strive for. This "skate through and get yours" idea is one of the things about TRP that I outright detest. These 48 Laws are shit. Skimming through them, some sound outright cowardly and underhanded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 09:38 PM
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This is a cliche, but there are a lot of fish in the sea. Even if the women in your social circles are pairing off, there will be plenty of opportunities for you to date in your thirties. It's not like you'll be ancient then. Just relax, get in shape, go with the flow, and keep an eye out for women who catch your interest. It's not like every woman in the world is getting married, you're probably just seeing that often because you're worried about it, and when it happens it's confirming your wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 07:10 AM
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This should be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 07:05 AM
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This shit is getting us nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:17 PM
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I find that the majority of my contributions have been civil more often than not. On the other hand, last time I engaged in a back and forth with someone that resolved itself amicably, I was downvoted into oblivion, despite the "no downvoting" rule. So that's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:01 PM
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I thought it'd be a pill. I'm not needle shy, but an injection in the dick... I'm all for male contraception, but looking at that makes me really fucking nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 04:41 PM
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What do you think I've been doing? Welcome to the club. Hardest part is putting on this human suit every morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 04:21 PM
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Trump is loud and incompetent. It doesn't take any actual answers to sound confident. He's a perfect example of presidential races being popularity contests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 04:15 PM
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I'm doing my best here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:57 AM
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I agree, for the most part. It can get uncomfortable and weird if someone you don't consider a friend starts talking about it in public with other people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:55 AM
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They're not specifically blasting their wives. They're saying "had great sex fucking crushed it yeah dude." As for who does that, I deleted a dude for doing that a while ago. Posted constantly, but every fifth post was about how he had sex with a different girl. It annoyed me, so I deleted him to get the shit off my feed. It came off as insecure, but more importantly it was annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:52 AM
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You know, that's fair. It's all about context. If you just roll off your wife then blast about it on social media, it sounds lame and desperate. If you're with your friends and having a conversation about it, or comparing notes, or just having a brodown about it, then that's fair. Sophomoric, but fair. EDIT: I'm not judging sophomoric things, for the record. If I did, I'd be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:44 AM
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Not particularly, since that's exactly what we're discussing and it was a (semi)warranted thing to bring up. Look, if you don't want to connect the dots, I can't help ya. I'm just calling it like I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:34 AM
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I imagine it's because of a lack of conflict in everyday life. Men want to feel like they're fighting a battle in the things they do, because we're evolved to fight. Many of us lack the privilege of a war to win, so we assign adversarial roles to the shit we get into. When I succeed, I crushed it. If I tell a joke well, I killed it. When I go out to party, I fuck some shit up. We do it with all sorts of shit. I personally don't use that terminology when talking about having sex, because it sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:31 AM
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When you and your guy have sex, does he tweet about it, or blast it on Facebook? Probably not, because it sounds lame, provides too much information to potentially uninterested parties, and it seems like he's seeking approval for something that should be gratifying in and of itself. The act of good sex is its own reward. When a guy goes out of his way to crow about it, it comes off as super insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:28 AM
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Yeah, it kinda comes off as insecure, and it's usually too much information. If you and your lady like it rough, good on you. But when a guy ceaselessly talks about crushing pussy (usually on social media), it just makes me think he's either insecure or lying to sound cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:24 AM
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The difference us a guy doing it, and a guy who may or may not do it, but never shuts up about it regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:20 AM
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I don't think he's a douche-bag BECAUSE he enjoys those things. Those things are often just incidental to being a douche-bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 05:23 AM
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You don't earn rights. They're the fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of or owed to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:50 AM
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Nah. I'd do right by my kid, regardless of a "get out of jail free" card. That's my flesh and blood, for fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:44 AM
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No, not by definition. But, as an addendum to that statement, I don't think she ought to be ashamed about that fact. The idea of virginity and maidenhood is kinda overrated. Most normal guys that I know don't go after virgins, and I've dated girls who have history with sexual assault. The "damaged goods" concept is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 11:04 PM
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I knew a guy with Tourette Syndrome, and he had no problem with ladies. He did have to explain what his tic was to potential partners though, but beyond it, he was a very charming and insightful guy. He was also a spectacular actor though, and worked a lot in live theater. When he got into the zone, he could keep his tic at bay. That might have helped. I'd date someone with a disability, as long as the learning curve for taking care of them isn't too steep. But, that would depend on how much I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 02:07 AM
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As benign as it sounds, the things you say should at least have social consequences. The excuse that "it's just mean internet words" doesn't sound very strong when you're sending pictures of your genitals to a non-consenting party, or calling someone a cunt just for not being interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 11:35 PM
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A dude tossed a bowling ball at a woman's head. That's pretty brutal if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:54 PM
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I really hope these guys are mentally ill or something, and that normal men aren't this prone to brutality when faced with rejection. I've gotten a little upset over rejection in the past, back in high school. I never got dangerous or anything, but I clearly made the girl uncomfortable, and frankly I regret it a lot. As a man, you've gotta have a thicker skin when it comes to putting yourself out there, or things can take a real turn for the worst. EDIT: To respond to the question, I think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 07:04 PM
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I'm with you on that one. Just lie. Fuck it. You said no already and they kept hounding you over it. At a certain point they have it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 04:24 PM
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No fat chicks. Like the samurai of old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 10:14 PM
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There are toxic elements to it. The idea that heroism must fall to a man, the idea that men are disposable and must lay down their lives, the idea that if you shy from danger you're a "pussy," etc. But, having said that, I subscribe to the belief that everyone, male or female, should try to be a hero in their own way. Do all the good you can, and don't expect compensation. Help a stranger, mentor a kid, give blood. Heroism isn't necessarily bound to crashing through burning buildings (while that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 10:12 PM
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No. Nothing against them, but it is a bit weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 10:42 AM
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I honestly don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:40 AM
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This has been super informative, and I'm all out of questions. For what it's worth, and I know you don't need my approval, I'm glad you have a good setup. I wish you and your girlfriend the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:36 AM
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That's not what I meant, yo. I mean the idea of a person being treated like a piece of property to be shunted into an unhappy life, purely for monetary gain or as a trophy. Monogamy, between two consenting adults on the basis of mutual attraction and emotional attachment, is a beautiful thing. The idea of people being "redistributed," and the return of the olden days, is rightfully appalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:28 AM
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That's interesting. Is it ever women, or is it solely men? And does race factor into it? Most of the things I've read or seen on the subject (fear-mongering man-o-sphere ramblings) tend to cast a big dicked black guy as the "perpetrator," and a white guy as the cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:25 AM
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Why should TerPers feel bad about bringing back the patriarchy to redistribute women from alphas to betas? Because it was abominable then, and it'd be abominable now. How would you like to be "distributed" to some needy weird lady who you're not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:14 AM
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Can confirm. I view 'em as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:12 AM
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So, what is it you enjoy about it? I always assumed it was like a live action porn thing, where it turns you on to see your S/O have sex from a third person perspective. Or is it a power thing, where you're using your wife to gratify another man, while you watch like some sort of pimp? No judgement either way. I'm just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:07 AM
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What exactly are you on about? What people? Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:05 AM
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I have to admit, as a man it would be very odd to be proposed to by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:46 PM
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Is this really a free speech issue? It certainly does not seem like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 04:31 PM
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No. Skip. Skip. No. If there's a spectrum of racism, I'd say this is very low functioning racism. I certainly wouldn't begrudge someone for having a preference. It is a little creepy when a bro talks about how he's only into a certain racial group. Yes. I wouldn't begrudge someone for it if they told me in confidence. But when you start broadcasting "I'm not attracted to _______ people they're ugly to me" then you're actively being racist. What can come of that other than negativity?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:10 PM
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In the past, for me, life was full of inadequacies and false hope. In a more abstract sense, the past for my people was full of inequality and humiliation and pain and uphill struggles. I say fuck the past. Things are getting better, and barring the fall of the States or a natural disaster, or my straight up death, I aim to make my future better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 04:05 AM
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Absolutely. You gotta know how to grow and evolve, and where you fell short.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:04 PM
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It's like being a comedian. If you don't know how to take bombing, then you won't get far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:48 PM
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That Tinder dude looks weird buff. He should go for a toned look, like John Krasinski in 13 Hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 08:50 AM
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He's referencing the above post regarding new laws making it "illegal to be alpha" (paraphrasing). I found it pretty funny. Edit: Wait, he's the one who made the post. I thought it was someone else, but I guess he's making fun of himself. Still funny, but it is now much more mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 08:40 AM
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Yikes. Let's see how bad this one gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:28 AM
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Because when an insecure person is rejected, they have to reconcile it with a reason. Usually a reason that justifies anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:39 AM
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Nah. Powerful women are kinda hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:36 AM
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There's this idea of an SJW boogeyman that's pervasive in a lot of circles. The ideas of traditional masculinity or "boys clubs" are often haunted by the specter of inclusive behavior and progressive values. Frankly I think it's dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:35 AM
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breathe into my balls That's not what I wanted to hear today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:47 PM
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I just think it's alienating and unwarranted, and I have no sympathy for the guy. I think the punishment is fine at 6 months. I honestly would have been iffy on two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:05 PM
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I say fuck 'em. Have a preference? Cool. Keep it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:31 PM
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Weird example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 05:53 AM
0

Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 05:34 AM
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That's nice for him. It's good that they share an interest. But to wear a top-hat with goggles in public, all the time, for no reason? I can tell you this; it didn't work for this particular dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:41 AM
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That's fair. It can be good to discuss mutual interests, but a lot of socially awkward folks will push someone into a conversation that they don't want to have, and if it's politics, it can be even more awkward. Especially if the person doesn't share the same view. Light religious talk can be fascinating, if you're willing to open your mind and explore the other person's faith with respect. However, if you're a militant atheist browbeating a religious person, or a devout catholic telling someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:31 AM
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Example from real life. A guy I knew wore a hat with steampunk goggles on it for months. Dude was twenty at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:27 AM
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Well, I guess I'm an exception. Not sure what to say other than that. Like I said, I don't speak for every other man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:37 AM
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No. Cheating can be purely for sexual gratification, or worse, out of spite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 11:08 PM
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No. While a cheater has shown a clear predilection for disloyal behavior, or at least poor decision making in that instance, I don't think that a cheater is impossible to reform. Given the complexity of the human mind, or the infinite possibilities in the world, it's entirely possible for a person to cheat once, then never again. It all depends on the person and the circumstance. That isn't to say you should trust them implicitly after they cheated on you, just because they apologize and promise…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:55 PM
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Maybe. That seems like a world so different that I have no concept for it. Would there be a comparable form of release or validation with other people? Would we not have genitals, replaced by some sort of sexless cloaca? To me, the question asks more than it answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:14 PM
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This. Also, thanks for making me realize I misspelled "damning." Boy is my face metaphorically red.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:11 PM
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Don't enter conversations with agendas. Learn to follow the natural flow of chatting with people, and don't muscle them into what you're interested in. And don't use forced affectations to be quirky. It comes off as weird. And don't talk politics, religion, or videogames. The first two are touchy subjects, and if you come on strongly about what you believe, it can be alienating. The third one is just something that not very many people care about. And listen to people. What they say and how they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:07 PM
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Oooooh. Forgot about that detail. Well, that considered, I'd probably go with the higher N count. She's tested the waters, been around the block, and knows what she likes. I'm not particularly jealous or insecure in terms of past experiences ladies have had. My current partner has a supposedly high N count (haven't asked, and don't know specifics), and it doesn't bother me. Outside discussions like this, it doesn't even come to mind. Experience > Purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:13 PM
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I can't speak for every other man, but for me it would come down to other factors. If you gave me empirical, unimpeachable data on their N counts, I'd gloss over it and see who I actually like more. As long as they don't have anything. It only really takes one strange dick to get a disease. And just five? That doesn't seem like much of an N count to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 07:56 PM
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Both are bad, but I'd have to say emotional cheating would probably be more damning. If it were physical cheating, I might forgive. If it was emotional cheating, I'd start formulating an exit strategy tout-suite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 07:51 PM
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N count doesn't particularly matter to me, as long as she's clean. So, history of cheating by a country mile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 05:53 PM
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Nope. If anything I've learned to value individuals more. I see so much generalization here that I kinda tell myself not to be that way in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:56 AM
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Yeah, but wouldn't you want a better life for yourself than scraping by on a chafing budget, buying clothes from garage sales and eating fast food? Hell, I know I'd want a better life for my kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 06:47 AM
2

As overdone as that joke tends to be, that was actually kinda funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 12:55 AM
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Yeah, I think paid parental leave should be standardized for male and female parents. It's more pressing for women, since there's a whole medical angle, and breast feeding and whatnot, but a Dad ought to get time off as well. Being a parent is heavy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:41 PM
2

How? Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:39 AM
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How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:27 AM
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How come Bluepill Men don't get one? It's always either Redpill Men or Women. Makes me feel left out. But, to answer anyway, I met a girl a while ago who perfectly summed it up. She was the kind of girl who raised red flags because she would fake pregnancies for attention. After being rejected by some other guy, she came on to me at a party. Probably as a rebound. I don't know why she singled me out. I said "nah" over and over jokingly, then told her I wasn't interested seriously, but she laughe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 05:17 AM
1

I agree. I don't mind tall tall or short women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:16 PM
1

Sounds like a drug dealer. So...maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:31 AM
2

Well, probably not. I have nothing against heavy women, but 400lbs isn't in the acceptable realm of attraction for me. Besides, I don't want ten children. Three tops. Unless she's some sort of reasonably proportioned amazon giant, and stands two stories tall or something. That'd be pretty dope. We'd need a big house, or to live among her people, where there are colossal tent cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:29 AM
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Visit r/menslib. They're really doing it right over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:56 AM
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So, your suggestion is that men only ever have children with virgins? Good luck finding your unspoiled waifu in this day and age. I consider targeting women with little experience kinda weird, especially for a man in his twenties. I like women who have lived life, and know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:54 AM
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Either you phrased that wrong, or that was astoundingly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:09 PM
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Never really understood this deep seated horror of women who have been around the block a few times. I'd rather have a woman who's lived her own life and tested the waters with people before picking me as the last, than some mythical unspoiled virgin waifu. My gf's had sex with other men. Some of them were hotter than I am. Some are bigger and stronger, some are smarter, some were more "alpha." If she wanted them, she'd still be with them. Edit: I guess I earned that downvote for cavorting with …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:03 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say Danny paid those women to be in that shot. Anyway, oftentimes people who base their whole self image around being a "nerd" tend to be kinda awkward when it comes to women. Socially awkward people tend to be repellent to potential partners. But, this is a vast, unfair generalization, as is the idea that "nerds" never find someone. Gus Sorola from Roosterteeth is a nerd, and he's been happily married for years. Plenty of nerds get the girl in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:37 PM
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I don't think it's necessarily offensive to say that a woman would sleep with an attractive guy. A man would sleep with an attractive woman, given the opportunity. I do think it's weird that it's considered a bad thing. What's wrong with a woman having sex with someone solely because they're attractive and willing? Edit: I'm not saying all women would do it. Some probably wouldn't. Some men probably wouldn't either. Not everybody's the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:37 AM
2

I think anyone, male or female, ought to take some basic self defense classes, and learn to fend off an attacker. Or, at very least, if you're travelling alone you should carry a weapon that you know how to use. Between rapists and muggers who prey on people travelling alone, it never hurts to stay wary and know how to defend yourself. Having said that, I don't think it's a potential victim's express responsibility to behave as if an attack is constantly imminent. Within the law, you should be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:14 AM
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Yep. I'm a black male from the south, and I've had sex with women who hold racist viewpoints. Would I date them? No. Their personalities were replant, and their fathers would probably murder me with a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:25 PM
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It'd probably be horrible. It's essentially giving a perpetrator a safe zone. "I raped him/her, but I was on base, so you can't prosecute me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:59 PM
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I'm male, blue pill. I have a decent amount of friends. I guess I'm relatively introverted. I like to be alone, but I don't have problems chatting with people. About 40% of my close male friends are male. I have a huge amount of male acquaintances that I get along with, but am not close to. 60% of my close friends are female, but I'm sexually attracted to very few of them. They're pretty for the most part, but I've never felt like going down that road with the majority of 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:01 PM
1

Yeah. Classmate, died of cancer. He was around 16, if memory serves. I don't think he was happy about dying, and I didn't go to the funeral. We didn't know each-other well, but he was a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:16 AM
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Yeah. Classmate, died of cancer. He was around 16, if memory serves. I don't think he was happy about dying, and I didn't go to the funeral. We didn't know each-other well, but he was a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:16 AM
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I'm not referring to evangelizing the Red Pill. It's certainly a kind thing to tell a friend that their drug habit is damaging them, or their behavior is fucked up, or they should take better care of themselves. I'm talking about running dread game, or making someone financial dependent on you, or any number of the abusive tactics that TRP is into.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:21 PM
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Because getting what you want from someone by damaging their sense of security or self esteem is morally fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:51 PM
1

It's not as simple as "maximize pleasure." Purely utilitarian methods are often socially obtuse. The ends in TRP, in terms of social interaction, often don't justify the means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:42 PM
1

I think about it, but we've never talked about it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:29 AM
1

They say a team is only as strong as the weakest members. If that applies to nation and intelligence, then we're boned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:51 AM
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Well we've been together for about seven years, and we're both 24. I was born three months earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:48 AM
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Not at all. I thought of us as friends, and she approached me for a relationship. Edit: Forgot to answer the questions. We were exclusive fairly immediately. We did not have sex beforehand. Commitment was implied from the start. I find her rather attractive, and I guess I'm average/passable. We're both 24. I think it's probably harder to get commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:42 AM
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