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0	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol This doesn't actually contradict anything I said, though. Nowhere did I imply that they don't hate trans women more than they hate trans men. It is largely that the average "TERF" doesn't actually hate trans women because they "see them as men," but because they see them as freaks or have this weird great replacement theory-esque belief about trans women. Seriously, TERFs absolutely hate trans women who pass because they see them as "fraudulent women" and have to actively force themselves to mis…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 07:36 PM
-5	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol We can generally tell that they don't hate men simply based on how they treat men differently than trans women. Again, these are mostly straight, mildly conservative married women who may distrust some men, but they certainly don't hate them as a class. Uou can especially see the difference in hatred in how they treat transfeminine people who don't claim womanhood and their overall opposition to medical transition in either direction as a concept. However, at least textually, part of it is just …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 04:15 AM
-6	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol The average "TERF" (as the amount of them who are actually radfems is very, very low) doesn't actually hate men. Most are older married straight women. There are a few holdouts who do hate men, but on average, they just really hate trans women and gladly call on men to serve as enforcers for their hatred. They hate trans women, specifically, because they think that trans women existing impedes on them as cis women. They are incredibly insecure in their status, and quite literally echo fears of s…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 03:01 AM
0	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol Please actually read what I'm saying. You're going completely off of the rails at individual sentences rather than actually bothering to engage with the totality of the material. If you fly into a tirade at a hair-trigger then there cannot be a productive conversation. Do you know what "benevolent misogyny" is? Do you think it's what happens when girls torment boys? It's not. Part of "Benevolent Misogyny" is when women and girls are unfairly given the benefit of the doubt because they're seen as…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 02:33 AM
0	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol You asserted that about radical feminism but didn't actually say why. I was very clear in the two contradictory definitions because one is a very clear counterpart to transmisogyny that outlines the catch-22 of being treated as either man or woman, whichever is worse at a given time, to be bad. Meanwhile, the other way people use the term is to complain that they're not seen as women when it becomes socially convenient. These two ideas are competing because they in fact want the opposite. One is…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 02:19 AM
-2	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol Traditional sexism is the keyword here. It's a specific phenomenon with a specific definition. You must be genuinely blind if you think that "women are inferior to men" isn't a more prevalent phenomenon than "men are inferior to women." This is not necessarily a matter of severity, but a matter of frequency. I'm not saying that men and boys who are victimized have it easier than women and girls who are victimized. I'm also not saying that traditional sexism levied at men doesn't exist. I'm not s…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 02:00 AM
-4	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol What about radical feminism, the idea that freedom is secured from uprooting patriarchy, is inherently transphobic? Please, tell me how transfeminist rhetoric, which is primarily structured around how bioessentialism is an oppressive force, is bioessentialist. "Transandrophobic" is used in ways that are awkwardly contradictory, so please be specific in which way you mean. Some people use it to refer to discrimination against trans men because they're men who are trans (akin to transmisogyny), wh…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 01:47 AM
-5	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol Patriarchy is the term I'm using because it's what's used colloquially, but we do live in a world where traditional sexism levied at women is worse than that levied at men, and that men hold the vast majority of positions of political and structural power even in the places where it is weakest. I don't think "patriarchy" is a fully accurate term, but it's the term that's used for a reason.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 01:40 AM
-2	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol I'm speaking as a trans woman who is very familiar with the history of both exclusive and inclusive radical feminism. Radical feminism isn't "feminism that's extreme" but feminism that seeks to dismantle patriarchy from the roots (radix). It's to remove the very structures of patriarchy and render the various victories of liberal feminism that are basically just carveouts obsolete. One of the most commonly proposed methods to do this was separatism, to deny patriarchy simply by establishing a co…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 12:31 AM
-6	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol That's literally not the case. Frankly I think most people here could benefit from reading some transfeminist literature, if just to adopt terms like oppositional sexism and traditional sexism to better articulate certain struggles. Seriously, if more people better differentiated between the two conversations could get so much more productive.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/06/26 04:00 PM
-7	‘It’s not about heroes and villains’: the triumphant return of long-lost indie I Shot Andy Warhol This is not entirely true. Plenty of radical feminists were explicitly trans-inclusive, and some forms of radical feminism (such as the theory of Shulamith Firestone) even argue that the only way to abolish patriarchy is to use technological advancements (including medical transition) to eliminate the concept of binary sex.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/06/26 03:23 PM
–	Objectification is a myth. You can quite literally reduce people to mere artifacts. You see this all of the time. Most forms of oppression are about stripping away the personhood of individuals. It's why in many examples, people are referred to by "it" to linguistically render them as non-person entities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 05:26 PM
6	Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to women If it wasn't about bodily autonomy then giving up custody, waiving parental rights, etc. would be the option. Even calling it "paper abortion" is a ridiculous misnomer because it would be a right available to either parent and is entirely unrelated to artificial miscarriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 05:24 PM
12	Paper abortion means giving all remaining advantage to men without leaving any to women Medical abortion is about bodily autonomy. Paper abortion is about economic autonomy. They're not really equivalent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 01:00 PM
3	Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny. There are many different varieties of femininity. While girlishness (like boyishness) is obviously neotonous, some of pillars of cultural femininity are rooted in motherliness and matronliness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 03:39 PM
3	Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny. I know this was meant to be sarcastic, but in actuality, feminine trans women who don't fully pass are often treated worse than very masculine-looking trans women. It's a commonly acknowledged phenomenon for trans women that, as one continues to transition, people, especially cis women, start to treat them worse as they go from being seen as crossdressers/"gay best friends" to being seen as uncanny imposters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:49 PM
1	Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny. Importantly, Khelif was competing within the rules of the competition at the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:43 PM
3	Artificial wombs will displace female hierarchy Artificial wombs and other technology that diminishes or even removes the difference between male and female as a means of dismantling patriarchy is actually one of the ideas proposed by transhumanist feminists like Shulamith Firestone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:39 PM
4	Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny. The phenomenon you're talking about is not necessarily either misandry or misogyny. It's oppositional sexism. Misogyny is the belief that women (and things associated with women) are inferior to men (and things associated with men). Oppositional sexism is the phenomenon where men and women are restricted through social pressures to only fulfill their socially designated roles. While under patriarchy, successful, conforming men are typically elevated above successful, conforming women, those who …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:28 PM
–	"Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocritical I didn't downvote you. Plenty of feminists support equality. Some like Firestone even support using technological progress to eliminate the material boundaries between male and female.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:24 PM
–	"Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocritical And those are just the liberal feminists who like to pretend to be radical feminists. See: TERFs. They're almost always just transphobic liberal feminists or conservatives. Only the female separatist vartiety of TERF could actually fit the radfem label.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 09:43 PM
3	"Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocritical I think there needs to be some clarification: "Liberal feminism" does not mean feminism that is liberal or moderate. It's just feminism that does not have the goal to overthrow patriarchy. Many feminist extremists, such as gender critical feminists, are liberal feminists (even if they like to call themselves radical feminists). This is opposed to "radical feminism," which seems to completely destroy patriarchy at the root (radical meaning "from the roots"). This typically requires significant ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 05:25 PM
1	Can anybody think of another "oppressed" group that has more rights and protections than their "oppressor" group? Protective legal rights are often there to try and offset social and economic oppression. For example, practices like alimony are common because jobs designated as "women's work" (ex: teaching) typically pay lower wages and women are also the designated "default parent" (due to both social expectations and the difficulties of pregnancy) so are often economically reliant on financial support due to needing to delay their careers. However, in most of these cases, men are also afforded these rights…	/r/MensRights	28/02/26 09:13 PM