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| 10 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?You are absolutely right: If a man feels lonely, it's either the individual man's fault, or it's the patriarchy's fault, and what that man should be doing is putting in the effort to change masculinity, one man at a time. It's a similar argument to what conservatives say when you bring up DACA (children brought to the U.S. illegally as children): "He isn't owed citizenship. He can go back to his home country and work to make it better so that people like his parents won't have to immigrate illeg… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/23 08:37 PM |
| 9 | A lot of "left wing" people revert to "bootstraps" mentality when it comes to men and dating. Has anybody else noticed this?The feminist narrative is that misogyny = prejudice against women + power They believe that misandry doesn't exist because women who are prejudiced against men, including those who openly hate men, don't have power. While this may be true on a larger societal level, there are many cases where they do have power over helpless men, for example, if they are a boy's mother or older caregiver and abusing them out of hatred for men. Their belief that misandry doesn't exist necessarily implies that if … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/23 08:31 AM |
| 1 | I don’t know what’s leftFind a circle of friends to hang out with IRL. Who knows, you may also make some female friends who get it. Modern day apps and reddit are notoriously for feeding you a curated feed of bad news. The reality out there is actually better once you talk to people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/23 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Need Help With My Therapist (Sources if possible)Exactly, we can't stoop to the level of mainstream feminist / left wing mob. Some people are just ignorant. While the victim should not be the one doing the emotional labor of holding space for a person hurting them through ignorance, we as a society should strive to focus on compassionate education, rather than just doxxing. Because doxxing radicalizes, it is a form of "accountability" that does not cause introspection and change. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/23 10:04 PM |
| 1 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredSame, I've met some pretty reasonable feminists. They're just not as vocal as the man-hating ones in activist spaces. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/12/22 06:35 AM |
| -3 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredI may get downvoted for this, but come on, this subreddit is to advocate for males, not to deny the need for 20th century gender equality. Yes, women were mistreated terribly and treated like second-class citizens, basically like children. All of the benefits you listed were benefits that were also extended to children. They also had to have sex with their husbands and bear them children whenever he wanted. Like children, they could be beaten, weren't allowed to vote, or do most jobs other than … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/12/22 06:22 AM |
| 5 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredText game is hard. There are fewer social cues available through text to use to flirt successfully and maintain interest. The flip side to Feminists telling you "well, she doesn't owe you a reply to your texts, you entitled POS!" is that you can get better at Text Game through reading about it, practicing it with real women, and most importantly, always text while feeling your attraction toward her, rather than texting while *thinking* of the right thing to say to impress her. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/12/22 06:07 AM |
| 8 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredThe non-radical feminists are the quieter ones. They're ones who have actual straight male friends. They can see men as human beings. Capital F feminists are the ones who see ALL men as cogs in the patriarchy, it's synonymous with enlightened misandry, a misandry often sparked in childhood or adolescence by an abusive personal experience at the hands of man, and fueled over the years by radical feminist activists and philosophers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/12/22 06:00 AM |
| 31 | Why wouldn't people just assume a man is asexual?Yes, what Feminists ascribe to "evil entitled behavior that the patriarchy specifically teaches men as acceptable" is actually human behavior of inexperienced people asking for what they want, who have trouble with rejection. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/22 06:45 PM |
| 6 | What's missing from the incel conversation?Most of the time I hear "men can be victims of the patriarchy too", it's used to end the discussion. It's a true platitude. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/22 01:21 AM |
| 10 | What's missing from the incel conversation?Yes, the Feminist narrative is: "misogyny is real because women suffer for the mere fact of being a woman. Misandry doesn't exist because while men may suffer, it's never because they are a man" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 09:02 PM |
| 7 | What's missing from the incel conversation?A huge measure of men's value in our society is their sexual prowess. To call it "overdramatizing being a virgin" is really an utter lack of compassion and understanding for this pressure. The expectation on these women's minds is that the phrase "you are not entitled to sex!" somehow ends the discussion, and solves the man's issue. I think it would be similar to calling women who get plastic surgery (including lip injections) mentally ill for mutilating their own bodies for male attention. Some… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 09:10 AM |
| 8 | What's missing from the incel conversation?You're in luck. This kind of program exists. https://www.somaticainstitute.com/blog/category/sex-coaching-session/ I'm not exactly neurotypical: My autism quotient fluctuates from 27 to 32 out of 50 and yet this kind of coaching has helped me. Two of the four coaches I've seen weren't as helpful, but two of them directly led to me finding a girlfriend, including the person I'm now seeing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:59 AM |
| 4 | What's missing from the incel conversation?I was floored when I heard my gf use the phrase about a woman "hitting the wall". I thought that was exclusively Red Pill jargon! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:39 AM |
| 10 | What's missing from the incel conversation?Maybe I'm giving Feminists too much credit by thinking this, but perhaps Feminists look at the "invisible men" of our society: incels who can't find a partner, and then they look at the "invisible women": women who CAN get into relationships but only terribly physically violent ones where they are often trapped and die. They then get mad at incels, thinking "what do incels have to complain about? At least they have a voice and community on the Internet while most battered women suffer in silence… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:35 AM |
| 5 | What's missing from the incel conversation?It comes from this more modern stance of not looking for equality now but looking for some kind of “cosmic balance” equality. And it applies to everything. So if historically women’s perspectives were never heard and men’s were it needs to be completely reversed and men’s perspectives need to be completely removed / silenced. Because we had it good for so long you see… Exactly. These people believe that in order to center women, the only acceptable thing for men to do is "shut up and listen". No… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:27 AM |
| 7 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyYep, seeing women do things like this to really hot guys makes me believe that in a world where women have to initiate, they'd be just as creepy as creepy guys. The only difference is that because women are generally physically weaker, the creepiness wouldn't come off as physically threatening, more like "ew, get away from me" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:07 AM |
| 5 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyYou're talking from a woman's perspective in a way that highlights the topic of this post: "Men receive contradicting messages about dating", i.e. completely unhelpful to the point where I'm wondering whether you're trolling us. "Don't be aggressive, it's creepy. Think about the consequences. Getting friendzoned is good in the long term since women are more likely to date you. Don't be that guy. Don't come on too strong or to be too demanding." None of what you said is remotely practically helpf… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:03 AM |
| 8 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyyou're in a different demographic. Yes! This is why we need small-f feminism, bringing to light the systemic issues that women face that men are blind to, and that I believe all men should learn about and listen to. We need better messengers than radical feminists to teach men about this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 10:48 PM |
| 6 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyGood points. I think you're right in that it won't totally get rid of the problem. I think that it does offer hope to the "nice guys" and incels who are capable of some level of introspection, self-help, and responsibility. Sometimes feeling like there are people willing to help you and that there's a way out is good enough to get out of hopelessness. Certain people like hardcore MGTOWs, and so-called "blackpillers" are a lost cause if they can only focus on hating women and self-pity. My main p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 10:17 PM |
| 25 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyWhat she's experienced is a change from downhill to flat terrain. But that's not the reality straight men are dating in; they're experiencing uphill. Love this analogy. I agree, most women just can't empathize with what it's like to feel pressured to initiate things and perform masculinity for the sake of dating. It's rare, but there are women who do, they often have male friends and "get it". I remember a female acquaintance giving me advice on how I can create attraction by getting closer to a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 10:06 PM |
| 2 | Advice for someone who’s never had a romantic relationship?Unfortunately not. Rates are usually north of $200 / hour but you may find coaches who offer sliding scales as low as $100 / hour which I found. Intimacy coaches are different than sexologists, sex therapists, and sex surrogates, FYI. I do wonder if some sex surrogates offer intimacy coaching as well. Intimacy coaches sort of feel like a hybrid of sex therapy and sex surrogates: the self-improvement and introspection of sex therapy combined with the practical sexual intimacy of sex surrogates (b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 09:34 PM |
| 14 | Advice for someone who’s never had a romantic relationship?Don't follow cliche'd advice from people who don't have dating problems. Here's why: I was a virgin until age 25 and it was only because my first partner made the first move that I was able to get in a relationship with her. She ended up being controlling and we had a messy breakup where I made a lot of shitty mistakes that hurt her and myself. Men are human beings just like women. I say this because if you finally "luck out" and find someone by "being yourself" and "there's someone out there fo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 08:14 PM |
| 22 | Advice for someone who’s never had a romantic relationship?I agree, it usually comes in 4 forms: 1.) Vanilla PUA (pickup artistry) 2.) Red-Pill or more extreme PUA, 3.) Well-meaning but useless "Be Yourself" or 4.) Feminist "Women don't owe you anything, you POS!" There needs to be more resources for men looking for effective practical advice that is not hateful towards women yet acknowledges the social pressures that both genders face. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 08:03 PM |
| 11 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyAnna Akana talks about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4E8qEDi\_xg | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 07:38 PM |
| 23 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyAnyway, society and feminism was never about equality. There's a lack of honesty and self-awareness in a lot of feminist discourse because of the focus on women as angelic victims and men as evil cogs of the patriarchy. Specifically around how women, including feminists, perpetuate the patriarchy through unclear messaging to men. Stop giving advice to lonely men about how being nice and respecting women has ANY bearing on their attractiveness. No, those are nice things to have, AFTER the man has… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 07:26 PM |
| 6 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyTo be a little nuanced in this discussion, depending on how authentic the woman is, you can sometimes tell during your approach and first sentence of the conversation whether she thinks you're creepy, is confused, or thinks you're a sweet-talking salesperson, or potential partner. Some women, on the other hand, are so good at people-pleasing that you can't sense their discomfort. They may even say "yes" or go a long with things that they ultimately don't want to do, because they're afraid of say… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 07:15 PM |
| 5 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyYes, a lot of toxic misandrist feminists definitely seem like they're cluster B (BPD / NPD): because of possible abuse at the hands of a man, instead of seeing men as human beings, they see them all as the enemy and engage their Fight response. They need therapy but their narcissism is telling them that it's all men's fault. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Can we please talk about the rest of the Left "waking up" to Men's issues??I have no problem in the mainstream left appealing to rational self-interest (protecting women's safety) in order to bring men's issues to light. The main thing that matters in my opinion is: are we humanizing these vulnerable men and providing PRACTICAL ways and resources for them to heal their trauma and learn to emotionally connect and release their anger and increase their capacity to love? Or are we shutting down the conversation with angry feminist slogans ("Repeat after me: 👏 Men 👏 are 👏 … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/22 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Feminists hate lonely men the same way conservatives hate poor peopleI call it "trickle-down feminism": since men have been the center of the world for so long, we must now go 180 deg the other way and center women ONLY in gender issues, and when women gain their rights, the patriarchy will free men. But until then, men have to shut up about their needs, hold their breath, and listen. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/22 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Feminists hate lonely men the same way conservatives hate poor peopleWhen a feminist says "The patriarchy hurts men too", it's not to open up dialog on how we can reform society to help lonely men, but to end the conversation. It's an adage that every left-wing person can agree with but is a poison pill. Similar to how "all lives matter" IS a factually accurate statement, but it's used to shut down the conversation about race. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/22 07:37 PM |
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