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This also highlights how poorly a fight can go even if one feels ready for it. I haven't known anyone killed yet, but I've known a few who sustained grievous injuries that were quite let's say altering to their life plans. I think a lot of people underestimate the unpredictability of fights. Do it for someone who is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:53 AM
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I like this and just want to add that, as anyone who's been in a fight will tell you, if you can get away safely, especially if you're responsible for other people in your party, that is far and away the better option. Obviously, you can't always do that. But people who are strong but haven't been in a fight can often underestimate how devastating it can be to your physical person. Even if you win.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:47 AM
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Honestly I even find myself annoyed at the term "young adult literature" myself. We didn't have it when I was a kid and I think it adds needless confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:12 AM
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I split my time between different countries throughout the year but no, this isn't a thing (the one or two sentences thing). Never heard it suggested anywhere in any language or culture online or off in almost 40 years. Though, admittedly, I couldn't tell you most of what is "trending" online if I had to. I 'd say the overlap between "only say two sentences at a time" and "young adult books have too many words on the page" is a circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:14 AM
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It happened a lot when I was younger (actively asking me what was the issue). Moreso from kids of course but a surprising number of adults. Now that I'm older it is, thankfully, less an issue. But I still look young for a person with this sort of problem so it comes up from time to time. The worst is restaurants if I happen to encounter a table that suddenly makes it their whole evening to stare (which frankly seems like a waste of a good evening to me)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:45 AM
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I think this is one of the soundest replies. People stare at me all the time in public because I have a mobility and gait issue and look odd when I walk around. That's just how it is. I could get offended over it but that would then be a daily thing. Of course, that's a bit different as we're talking about something innate to me and not a choice, albeit negatively innate. But I do cover up even in weather I'd prefer not to in order to minimize the more obvious defects and potential for more star…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:32 AM
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I haven't gotten "you must be Chad" as far as I can remember, but there have been a few harumphs when I share my story of navigating dating as a disabled dude and being successful at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:05 AM
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You’re acting like women only spaces are some kind of attack on men OP legit feels this way as evidenced by comments elsewhere. He hates the idea of any space that excludes men because it makes him, personally, feel bad. I can't imagine being so up in my feelings like that, and I think being in touch with one's feelings is generally a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:15 PM
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It's a "main character" type of thing where they want some kind of instant obsession, up to and including being the supporting character in their story arc, in order to feel like the main character of the story. The funny part about that is that you can find someone who makes you feel that way and has a solid career and ambitions and their own life goals. Then you both go through life as a partnership where you make money and make each other feel like the main character all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:34 PM
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Yes, people treat people who are different from other people differently. This really isn't that revolutionary. And as pretty much everyone will universally acknowledge, these things tend to be easier for hot people. That's just how it is. The stuff you put in the "average guy" category just sounds like looking for reasons to complain because the person/relationship isn't what you want. This is solved by not dating/screwing people to whom you have no attraction. If you're attracted to someone, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:57 PM
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This user has spammed this comment throughout the thread for some reason and it makes less sense each time. As if someone too shy to even hold hands in public and who has a low sex drive is the best/only choice when put up against someone who enjoys sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:30 PM
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It's honestly kind of surprising it hasn't come up more considering some of the stuff that gets posted here. I dunno why but your posting the last part twice to reinforce it really got me chuckling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:43 AM
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Of course it does. My comment you replied to originally was talking about women. This whole thread is about women approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:06 AM
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Sure, but this is just a reframing of what I already said. If you're getting no interest from the people you want, you have to change it up and approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:02 AM
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A person only needs to approach if they would like to be in a relationship (or hookup) and are, for whatever reason, getting no interest from other parties. This is not typically an issue for women. So it seems silly to say that they should do it more. If you're a foreveralone woman (just an example) then yeah, sure, you probably "should" approach assuming you want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:05 PM
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Honestly hard to say. I don't get the sense that they are outliers in many ways other than the fact that they are single, frankly. I can think of maybe two or three people like this across the whole of my friend network, so they're pretty outside the norm in this sense. In all other respects they are put together and generally nice to be around. The one acquaintance is very religious with very high religious standards and religion takes a very front-and-center part in her life, so I know she's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:29 PM
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Yep. I'm a guy who is a few years older and it was exactly the same then too. (As a side note, most of my friends both men and women are now married these days, have been for a long time, most have kids, and there's only a couple of divorces in the whole wide circle). I only mention this because even if teens are very much unserious about dating, it tends to still turn out okay and they get serious later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:56 PM
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This depends on what precisely is meant by these statements. For example, what is meant by "content" online? Sexual content in lieu of actual relationships or sexual experiences? I only ever met a single guy who ever fit that description and he was way out there and had actual brain issues (not dunking on him, just a fact). This guy thought cam girl stuff was the equilvalent of "having sex", that's how out there he was. In fairness to him, though, no one was trying to date him and he wasn't tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:52 PM

You know what I was wrong--fully expected them to nuke this by now but it's up and with mod engagement so. I don't even think it's a bad post, it's par for this place, just that every "rebuttal" is basically "no you" which typically they'd remove for bad faith. That said I'm somewhat conflating this with posts that have zero OP engagement too, and those are removed more quickly I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:46 PM

Also a man but with a healthy mix of friends between the sexes. It's doubtful that men who are only able to be kinda sorta friends with half the population due to only sexual tension is capable of any kind of deep relationship with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:42 PM

You're making the assumption that such men can be friends with men, though. What leads you to believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:49 PM

But they aren't getting the poon from their dude friends either. In the case of your hypothetical about death, why wouldn't they care the same amount regardless? Or, put another way, why wouldn't they not care at all regardless if it was a man or woman friend who died?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:37 PM

OP's replies indicate it's one huge troll and not interested in "debate" at all. Pretty sure they'll nuke it soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:26 PM

What an absolutely bizarre question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:25 PM
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I think you're a little older than me, but I definitely recall only getting maybe 5 channels max on a tiny tube TV. Such a different time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:30 PM
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I can't say with certainty for the women since I'm a man, but I think it'll always include looks at the start for women too. As in, I think they can and do size up the "looks threshold" pretty similarly to how men can also do this within seconds/minutes of meeting someone. Then they move on to whether it might be worth it to pursue a relationship after that. But it's late here and I might be misunderstanding what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:34 AM
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This is really the best way to go about it for both parties. If a person accepts a date from someone who doesn't meet the threshold, somewhere along the way their will be negative feelings, no matter how much of a "chance" they give.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:25 AM
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I do think people lean a little hard on "escapism" as too literal a term sometimes, yeah. Sure, someone might dive really deep into a thing at the expense of other things to escape a crappy situation as much as possible. But here with the latter I think is what is really meant by "escapism"--needing that thing in order to avoid unpleasant parts of life rather than just actively enjoying the thing itself. For example when I first graduated uni it took longer than I would've liked to find employme…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:21 PM
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Not who you asked but I think so most of the time. I say that as a someone who enjoys both of those activities a lot. I think really only "hard nonfiction" in either medium could be classified as "not escapism" because you're typically trying to learn something about something. (What hard nonfiction is will be slightly different depending on whom you ask, and admittedly some people probably can engage with this material as escapism). I do think we can still learn or at least analyze many importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:39 PM
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I don't know if my standards are high or low, but I agree with your general point here. "Good" for me is not just "following the law". It's much more than that. Most people are "fine", but I question whether most are "good".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:15 PM
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They are bizarre misunderstandings of common phrases. It's happening more and more here and not just with phrases but with singular words too. Not sure what it is. I'd say general lack of knowledge of just the meaning of words but that's a bit disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:27 PM
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I think this is a good way to put it. "I want it now" when someone else doesn't already speaks to a mismatch from the beginning. There's probably some nuance there, but in general I think this is how it is too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:54 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the verbiage or in waiting, personally. But, I do agree about the spirit of the Asian romcom. So many 30-somethings with dating experience (and sometimes kids) acting like teenagers. (I complain, but I keep watching, so I know it's a trope I just have to accept)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:51 PM

One of the things I say relatively often is that, indeed, you really can do everything "right" with regard to looking for a relationship and still fail. It does rely on the other person (and circumstances for meeting one of the ones who are right for you) There is definitely more at play than just only working on yourself. In short yeah I don't think being single is all anyone's own fault unless I know more about them (there was some recent thread about this and some of the dudes chiming in list…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:57 PM

I do think "understanding" is much better than "sympathy" here yeah. OP mentions both of course and I focused mostly on sympathy, but the understanding part has merit too and you bring up some fair examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:37 PM

I appreciate that, genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:17 PM

I can't control who downvotes you man. I can't even see how many votes any of these posts get unless I'm looking at stuff that's at least a day old. I don't use the system at all even for replies that are not only unhelpful but actively hostile toward me and meant to be insulting. Just doesn't make sense to take the time. (Which is one of the reasons that I think it doesn't make sense to actively draw attention to downvotes--it always makes it seem weird).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:12 PM

That's very kind of you. I'll be honest with you I just try to put my best self forward when I talk about my life. I'm not brave at all; I'd definitely fix my physical problems if there was a way to do that rather than to keep enduring them. Super tangientially, this attitude is what helped me to have more grace for people who want plastic surgery to fix cosmetic issues for which they are bullied or which might otherwise cause insecurity. I used to be a bit of a Judgy McJudgepants about it if it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:11 PM

Okay yeah I get you. I wasn't suggesting you had a concrete answer for what it would look like--just that we have to draw on some kind of agreed-upon hypothetical to make the sympathy "meaningful" outside of just "exisiting". And here we may come to how we think about the issue differently. For the record I don't think there's anything wrong with just valuing sympathy by itself, even if that's not something I do. I actually mentioned at least once or twice here that I think a change in the pursu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:05 PM

To answer your first question, I mean of course "the demonstrable effect of increased sympathy to men's dating struggles." Sympathy with regard to said struggles is your OP yes? If I'm misunderstanding that please correct me. "At one point" when? In the future if they started being more sympathetic now? I'm not sure if you're proposing this as a hypothetical demonstrable effect of sympathy but if so I'll engage with it in a bit when I have time. I'm not suggesting that you suggested the answer w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:30 PM

What is the demonstrable effect on dating dynamics? I have to know what that is in order to be sympathetic. Because unless that effect is active, my sympathy is meaningless. I could say "yeah that sucks" (or insert whatever genuinely sympathetic response works for you). But if there is no effect, what is it but virtue-signalling by another name?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:02 PM

I used to do it to myself as a lad, but about my being disabled rather than dating (the disabled thing fed into fears about not finding anyone too, but it was still different). I won't go too much into that as this is not the place, but eventually I just had to ask myself some tough questions. What did I really want? What would any kind of "acknowledgement" or "understanding" change about my situation? How would it improve my life or my situation? And the truth of the matter was that, well, it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:59 PM
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Yeah I won't kid you it is definitely much harder now that I'm past uni age and can also use the partner as some excuse to not socialize outside of a relationship. And tbh we both are guilty of this sometimes but we also want to keep those social skills relatively sharp. Sometimes you really do have to force yourself, at least for getting the motivation to get up and go meet some people after you're say tired from work and whatnot. But, like you said, most of the time it's a good time and you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:47 PM
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That or just go to everything. It's what I did at uni after being undersocialized and very rural as a kid. I just went to everything. I wasn't thinking about whether the type of people there would even be "my people" or not. If there were on- or off-campus events and I had time I just went to everything with the goal of working on social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:33 PM

Dude here but just for the sake of discussion, let's say it's 100%. Let's imagine all the women "understand" men's "dating struggles." What would that look like and what would the demonstrable effect of it be as it relates to how dating dynamics would change? Because that's really all that matters here. Posts like this that women (and opposing posts talking about men) not "understanding" another demo's dating struggles come up here often, but they rarely seem to go anywhere because no one ever p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:29 PM

I did appreciate little details like "Ukrainian escort ring", honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:13 AM
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Admittedly I too haven't heard of that one; I shall add it to the list. Many thanks. That's all awesome btw it's so nice you connected with a person like that. Love those stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:54 PM
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Aw yeah. Which books and do you share similar tastes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:02 PM
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There's quite a bit of that. I felt the same way when I first starting lurking here and people would make posts about some of the literature they'd read on sexual dynamics and the phrasing always made it kinda obvious that they thought most people were unaware of these books that were big like 30-40 years ago. Not quite the same thing but it always gave the same vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:20 PM
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"Double standard" is possibly the most misused term around these parts. It does have me thinking what other terms are misused, but this one is probably at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:10 PM
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Despite growing up answering business calls from around aged eight or so the phone one is the worst for me. Not in the anxiety way that it appears to be with kids today who are legit scared to talk on the phone. More that without the nuance of facial expression and such for me the phone stuff just becomes more awkward than I'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:30 PM
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I'm always interested in those mixes since mine very much wasn't a mix, just super duper conservative. I met a lot of less conservative friends later on but it didn't seem like their upbringings were all that mixed (beyond some of the basic conservatism that is endemic and not a matter of politics). So when I find someone who had a pretty mixed one it intrigues me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:25 PM
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Just knowing about your growing up years makes this like 20x times funnier to me thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:07 PM
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Yeah it's definitely a thing. I won't point fingers at any specific group, but my wife used to work with three dudes all from the same country/background. All of them somewhat weirdly openly expressed that their girlfriends were for the things they could not imagine their wives doing. I'll grant that three is not a large sample size, but it's interesting that they all came from the same place, worked for the same company, and were very open about their girlfriends vs. their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:53 PM
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Posts like this OP are probably why I'll never really take a long break from this sub anytime soon. Anytime I give it serious consideration something like this pops up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:54 AM
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Some people's brains are... something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:43 AM
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I really wish we could get a second English translation of The Witcher series to be honest. My partner has read it in a couple of languages and says they both hold up well to the spirit and intent of the original, whereas the English translation loses a lot in her opinion. Of course, I didn't know what I was missing at first, but she's pointed out the relative drabness of the English translation in a lot of places, so it's kinda disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:09 PM
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I confess to now having a curiosity as to how many dicks equate a single mile. But I'm not curious enough to go looking for the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:02 PM
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I want to make a joke here about curiosity and tigers since they're cats. But I'll just take your word that this is horrible and not click.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:54 PM
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I think friendship and community are very important things that one should try to develop regardless of being in a relationship or not. That said... I think I could only compare a close, intimate relationship with a special person who understands me more than anyone to that of a good friend if the relationship was just... meh. Or okay. Which itself begs the question of whether they are that close, if they provide nothing I don't get from friends. When you find a good relationship with a person w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:09 PM
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Yeah, I have to wonder if most of them actually go out and do any of this or if they just see stuff online. It's like you said, socially aware people in a social setting where drinks and convo are both flowing... well you'd have to be very much not aware at all to think it odd that someone might approach you, let alone get angry about it. There are a few stories here where guys have shared what sounded like harsh rejections and, in the spirit of this being a debate sub I try to take those at fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:06 PM
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Yeah but that takes work and time and effort and such. A whole convo about it? /s In all seriousness this is the kind of nuance that is relatively useful as far as online advice between strangers goes. Hopefully some people who need it will see it. There are a lot of complaints about too much generic advice (such as this OP) but, really, there's only so much you can do when online strangers ask other strangers for tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:39 PM
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"Rural" really has more to do with how a geographical area outside of a city is set up, but it's also true that low population density is one of the factors typically. It's funny how different people view what is a rural place or small town vs. a big city. There was a discussion recently in my home state about one of the best cities to visit and, indeed, it has a population of not much more than 50,000. It's "big" by our standards but small by many other metrics, and people in the comments were …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:52 PM
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The presumption happens a lot here when you start talking about relationships or family ties and whatnot. Not necessarily directing this at the poster you're responding to but I've mentioned for example certain family dynamics and people will come in and be like "yeah but actually you're probably wrong and here's the real reason your family member is like this" discounting that I've known them and their behaviors for many decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:33 PM

I'm not single so most people don't really compare to my partner. There are occasions when I might notice someone briefly I guess. Most people look fine. Not amazing, not ugly. Most people are background noise unless I actually need to interact with them regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:05 AM
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Same for my missus. I don't generally talk to strangers anyway, but when I started visiting her country many years ago, she had to tell me to stop smiling at people so much. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:49 PM
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Sure, I would take a medical procedure to fix my issues too. But there isn't one (even an unsafe one). You're much better off with a body that functions normally and does what you want it to do when you want, even if it doesn't look how you'd like. I don't even know what that's like, really since I was born this way, but it seems like most people enjoy their normal access to the world. Don't give that up for anything man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:12 PM
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Keep doing you man. I was born with a leg disability. That stuff affects every aspect of your QoL and although I like my life just fine, it would be nice not to have any of these issues. Anyone who suggests this kind of radical surgery is not a long-term thinker.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:00 PM
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I think for a lot of them it can stem from a similar place and they (probably) say it because they want a similar result.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:58 PM
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Yeah this could be a possibility, but I'm not sure it works differently from men. Like in your example in the second paragraph, I think the guy in that scenario would lose some social currency after a while as well. But I'm not sure, I could be misunderstanding your point here. That said I do agree that it tends to be, in part, a rejection response. It's sort of the same for at least some of the complaints young people with dating woes bring up--birth rates and the subsuming of cultures and othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:12 PM
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I have a brain similar to a lesbian in matters of sexual attraction already, but the body is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:04 PM
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I dunno if I'd call it homophobia. I'm a dude and I still think it's true about some dudes. But I'd be willing to change my mind on it being purely homophobia if there was a good argument for that. Some dudes would honestly be happier dating dudes more than women (which doesn't necessarily mean there is a sexual component). That said, I'll say that I'm really only saying this about the dudes who straight up actually wish they were gay and say so. It's a small subset.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:54 PM
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Unironically I think this is true for a lot of men. I'm not making a judgment about it either way, but I think you're right. The guys who want to sex women but are also annoyed by their very presence, for some reason, would probably benefit from this the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:29 PM
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While I agree it is not a case of "just world fallacy" I do think that because of how interpersonal dynamics work, you can "do everything correctly" and still lose. I guess I don't specifically disagree with your assertion so this might end up under automod (or I might need to put it there not sure) But I post here because oftentimes people do tend to assert that if someone is chronically alone despite trying that they can "personality" their way out of it eventually. But sometimes you can't, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:19 PM
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Wasn't in the BB but a similar upbringing as you know. My sister wasn't raised in this fantasy way either. The absolute closest thing is "not going to school" but even that is different from "failing out of school to find a beta guy" later in life. My parents wouldn't have cared if none of us went on to higher education as long as we were responsible and had good prospects. I moved to go to a much more "liberal" type of city and school and it was still much the same there. I'm still in touch wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:23 PM
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Dang it now I can't decide is "sexual nihilism" or "sexual socialists" is the better band name. The music would suck, but it would be the kind of music you sort of like in spite of yourself and you admit that it sucks but like it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:13 PM
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As someone a bit older who often has to work around younger guys... people not "accurately" estimating their looks is not a gendered thing. Of course, I put that in quotes because the closest thing you can get to any accuracy for one's looks is who you're pulling or who finds you attractive. Keep in mind that, especially in this space, people confuse "average" and "below-average" a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:10 PM
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I think what you said earlier is accurate; this is fine for the US but it wouldn't be top-tier elsewhere. My missus is from Central Europe and he's at best mid there... but standards are pretty high in the parts I've been to, for men and women, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:52 PM
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This is a good point as well. Tons of the women I'm friends with are really awesome people and I can see that, but I know they are not compatible with me specifically. It's not entirely dissimilar to people who think their friends are "perfectly great" people and can't understand why those friends don't get many dates or relationships. They probably are great friends, but that doesn't make them great intimate partners (perhaps not even to the people who think they are great friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:48 PM
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I don't disagree that many guys are like this. However, as much as I call out whiners and people who don't want to put the work in to find a relationship, part of this specific thing probably isn't entirely their fault. Depending on their specific age group, a lot of them saw this modeled in their parents and what worked for them. (I'm not suggesting no couple had to put in extra work for each other, but I am saying that a lot of people coasted by in life just by being "decent" and little else).…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:41 PM
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I've never found "be attractive" to be missing. Implied, but not missing. There are a few outliers who openly admit they are with people they aren't attracted to, but those are desperate people who would absolutely trade up if they could. No one's out here looking for unattractive people. It's just not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:57 PM
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This was a bit confusing but I don't think so is my answer. My current partner is basically this if I understood the assignment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:55 PM
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Yeah it's a combo of body/face. Reynolds is not the average dude at Subway. That would be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:49 PM
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Oh dang WMTD was one of my favorites. But I'm a huge Poe fan and loved the retelling and the main character and all that jazz. (I know next to nothing about mycology beyond what a basic mushroom hunter would know, so I can't speak to any of that except that I thought it was a neat device for the plot). Twisted Ones was pretty cool with the bug info as well but, again, it's not my field so I can't speak to its veracity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:26 AM
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Yeah I'm not sure why it goes so hard in one direction with an official ideology of blackpill running a dang government and all that. I mean, it doesn't even sound happy, that's really what it comes down to. It doesn't even sound like misogynist woman-haters would like it there, frankly. Like you say if people wanna go off and do a thing that's great. Mini communities of brotherhood can be great. But this just seems joyless, which means it has no benefit in getting away from the supposed joyless…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:23 AM
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my own insecurities and feelings of self-loathing. Yes resolving those issues has definitely contributed to the quality of my current relationship. Not hating yourself is a great reward in and of itself. By that point whether or not I actually found a romantic partner was secondary. Mirrors a lot of the journey I had to take as well, I gotta co-sign this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:11 AM
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I do think a lot of people see a romantic connection as a reward, but as good as my partner is for me, no I wasn't "healed" by getting into a relationship with her. In fact, I think if I hadn't worked on very deep-seated feelings of self-loathing (part of which was indeed around feelings of not being lovable due to being disabled) I might not have been able to have a successful relationship. It would have been selfish of me to put that on her and expect her emotional support to "fix" my issues, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:10 AM
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I do indeed, ha. She describes such communities in at least a couple of the books I've read (I haven't read her entire body of work). I think in one called The Twisted Ones there is a community that is at least similar to what you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:54 AM
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It's funny you mention NC. There's an author I read quite a bit of and several of her stories are set there and in at least one there was commune like this. In most of the others there were some queer characters. I thought she was just worldbuilding but maybe there's more to it than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:14 AM

Yes, people find certain traits more attractive in people who meet their baseline attraction. I'm beginning to think there is a massive subset of younger dudes who desperately want all men to receive the exact same treatment from women. This just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:48 AM
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There's very little chance I'd want to live in an all-male society, but other posters do provide some decent hypotheticals of such that are built on much better foundations than what is posited in the OP. I have no desire to live in a place surrounded by blackpillers and people "just tired of women." That said if some dudes want to make some kind of dude commune to be dudes with each other, have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:34 AM
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You're probably right--I guess I did hear about that. I'm fortunate enough to miss almost all of these fad things, although it does sometimes mean I look pretty clueless since most people seem to know about them. I'm always late to stuff like "office siren" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:31 PM
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Okay yes that's even weirder. Hmm. How odd. Whenever I invite someone to check stuff out with me we do it together lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:27 AM
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That's me as well as a man. Attractive or not (but "not" doesn't mean "ugly" even though I know some people interpret it that way). For me it just means "not attractive" but they probably look fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:25 AM
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Someone who used to live in my apartment block unfortunately took their life and it also wasn't discovered right away. It's definitely sad when it happens--makes you think. Frankly even at some of my most social points in life before meeting my partner the whole not knowing thing right away could have applied to me... just because it was also somewhat normal for me not to really talk to anyone for a couple days at a time at least. My parents used to put some pressure on me to find someone but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:24 AM
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That is odd. Was it his idea to go to the stationery shop? I'm assuming not because then it would be extra weird but... sometimes people are extra weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:18 AM
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Supplemental materials on good dick, you say? Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:16 PM
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Part of me knows this but then you start thinking about all this in terms of numbers and it feels odd. Though, granted, out of the over 100k members here we're mostly seeing maybe 100-200 of the same posters tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:05 PM
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Dang now I wonder what was surprising about that Home Depot trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:55 PM
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It is a bit funny people don't seem to think the same of men in a similar position. I wonder if there is some prevailing sentiment that the old man at the end is just "living his independent life" rather than someone who is "alone with no love". Like you, I think most people have at least a few people who are going to miss them when they're gone... and just the having of kids doesn't necessarily mean they'll miss you. (I mean, hopefully they do, but it's not the foregone conclusion some people m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:52 PM
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I consider myself sort of dull but I'm meeting these benchmarks. Sometimes this place makes me feel above-average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:57 PM
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I've often wondered about people like this, but it's because I don't consider myself particularly interesting. I assume most people would find me boring as well, but I can't imagine being quite this boring. Did this guy not have passions, or things he liked to discuss or anything? Again I would say from the outside looking in my life is probably pretty dull to most people, but if it was as you describe for this guy that level of monotony would get to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:55 PM
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Very true. Doesn't even need to be nude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:10 AM
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Somehow that's better but I don't know why. Maybe because it doesn't evoke the beefy tenderness or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:14 PM
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I love this and hate it in equal measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:00 PM
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It sounds like there's a handful of women who have drenched themselves in some pretty specific pheromones it's activating some primal lust or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:37 PM
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Bed against the wall can be rough yeah. If you change positions relatively often in the night it's tough because you wanna turn over but you don't wanna disturb your partner but you've got limited space to do both those things. Been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:58 PM
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There's a lot of that (online at least) and I think part of it comes from the increased ways younger people are engaging in social media and related things. Attention, even from strangers, is more valued than it ever has been and it's easier than it has ever been to see others getting a lot of it when one might feel lack. So no attention (the default state in my opinion) is twisted into "I must be subhuman for not getting the thing I see other people getting". And yeah much of this perceived and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:56 PM
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I'll post here due to lack of flair. I think you're overthinking it. It's a simple reframing of the (lack of) interaction that paints the man in question as the aggrieved party of some sleight. Disinterest is much more neutral. If you can reframe disinterest as something that is actively hostile you have a grievance that can lend some credibility to your struggle or negative views or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:33 PM
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I wonder, does it have to be Montreal steak seasoning specifically? I was going to guess it's called "spicy corndog" but the presence of "genitalia" assumes that either sex can perform the seasoning, so that name wouldn't work for both. Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:31 PM
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Just so I also don't have to check it out--what is it called?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:23 PM
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I don't think I move around a lot as a whole but I do get restless legs at night. Unfortunately it tends to start up even in the pre-bedtime reading stage of the night. Apparently I also wind up in weird positions though; maybe I move around more than I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:30 PM
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I know you might not mean this completely literally but your sharing a bed bit reminded me of a video I saw of a dude who was pointing out reasons why you're competing with a good single life rather than other men. One of them was "she's been sleeping diagonally on her bed for the past three years". The whole video was funny but I particularly enjoyed that bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:12 PM
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Every time I'm almost ready to take a long hiatus, a straight-up banger appears.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:16 PM

That was gonna be my question. I can only speak to my own experience but my partners have been happy to tell me about the finer points of what they like. If this was a question of just not knowing anything and needing step-by-step guides, I'd imagine that could be an issue, but the OP doesn't appear to assert this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:53 PM
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Yeah man I agree with so much of this. My parents taught me a lot of good things, but they weren't the best at encouraging socialization (we were homeschooled K-12 in addition to being rural) nor was any kind of sex talk a thing. (I doubt I'd want to discuss any of that with my parents, but it also created a bit of a sex-negative atmosphere when I got older. I had to get past that along with growing the social skills). One common thread I see these days is a lot of dudes seem to want to be attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:20 PM
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Having been a former college dude myself and still keeping in touch with plenty of the woman who attended uni with me, can confirm. I am quite sure they are attracted to the guys they married but many of them are bang on average dudes at best. There is nothing wrong with that and I'm not a leagues guy (outside of who you can pull is your league) but in many cases yeah, these guys lucked out. I say lucked out but of course these guys surely have competency going for them as well. One or two of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:53 PM
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You don't know it yet but John Quiñones 'bout to jump out and ask you what you would do after you get involved in a somewhat believable but still suspicious situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:51 PM
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Right? And that's mostly what I've been interested in. I think a lot of problems could be solved by everyone sticking to what they really want/need out of a relationship. That's why I don't really buy any arguments that focus on which party is more "noble" in dating (outside of making sure it is two consenting adults of course). Because I don't buy this framing of one sex or other just being oh so much more noble and self-sacrificing. We all want the best we can get, especially in something like…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:57 PM
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I feel like you and me got some pretty similar messaging/expectations growing up the more I read your responses (could be wrong about that). I definitely had/have a looks threshold, no denying, and that's why I really dislike when I read responses here from dudes who "can't afford standards" in that department. But yes, like you, it was just the thing that started that baseline interest. Then we get into all the other stuff. Sometimes people would ask me, why it is that I don't seem bitter about…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:53 PM
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I used to think those things weren't part of high standards.., but over some years now I've begun to change my stance. It's why even as a man I do tell people I have high standards. Not just these things, there are a few more, but the more I observe the more I see that yeah... maybe what I used to think was just "average" actually are now "high" standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:16 PM
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Yeah. It's kinda insane just how often some people can delude themselves that their infatuation is more than that, really. Not just how often but how deeply it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:06 PM
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This reminds me of a post I once saw from a sad dude who made a whole book of lore and decided to post it on the internet for some reason. Big fantasy about an entire life that could have been because the chick he was crushing on got with someone other than him. And the way he wrote it did heavily imply they were pretty much strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:35 PM
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Honestly that's not bad for 6 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:18 PM
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I'm really glad it worked out. I'm quite familiar with the "I really want to hear your thoughts... oops no I don't actually" flip-flopping, myself. Had a strongly religious upbringing as well and it seems to be more common in that group than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:56 PM
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Ha I appreciate that thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:07 PM
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Glad to hear it's a nonissue now but oh man it's wild to think that was so great a problem it couldn't even be discussed (not knocking either of you for that--it's just wild).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:42 PM
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It almost makes you cringe internally somehow doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:16 PM
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I can believe this could matter in extreme outliers at either end of the patented penis spectrum. In those cases it is more likely that this aspect could affect enjoyment. That said, and I will try to get a little personal here without getting gross.... any time that it came time where someone else would see my member... all parties were already super fired up and it did not matter at all. All physical signs pointed to ready to go. The insult stuff you mention here does have merit, but insults a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:23 PM
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The dude really managed to hit that sweet spot with the "grizzled" look as he got older, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:08 PM
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I think it's what these days people call "out of pocket" and honestly sometimes it's hilarious when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:23 AM
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Right? It sounds like we've had very similar upbringings and some similar experiences from all that. (We mostly weren't even allowed to call names like "jerk" or "poopyhead" either to be honest; my parents were pretty strict lol) One thing that has seemed slightly weird as I get older is how many people apparently didn't have to call their aunts or uncles with the title. For us as kids this was pretty enforced and we got scolded if we forgot (most of my aunts and uncles didn't live nearby when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:21 AM
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To point 1 definitely not. It's nice to think that in some way we could go action-hero if we needed to, but against more than one person at a time your odds go down drastically. Even a single opponent armed with a sharp object will have improved odds against the other person. I follow quite a few people who have spent years training in fighting and a few of them once got together to test how easy it might be to defend oneself against a single opponent armed with a blade. It's been a few years bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:13 AM
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Obsessive language nerds are my jam and thank you so much for the recommendation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:04 AM
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I wasn't even allowed to slam doors or say things like "shut up" as a kid. This takes me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:03 AM
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Sorta what I was thinking yeah... but hey people can surprise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:43 PM
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I'm super glad to hear that things turned out in such a way that you're capable and not too limited by the injuries. I love that. As I'm getting through my late 30s I'm starting to feel things a bit more and taking a hard look at how things will probably be down the line into the 40s. Ironically the one thing I would do more of if my joints and ligaments allowed for it is heavy contact combat sports. I've always loved it despite not being able to be part of it. But nowadays even if I could, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:43 PM
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I would love to learn Chinese but the sheer number of characters required for basic literacy is daunting. I'm also concerned that it would take a while to learn to read since so many of the characters have so many lines that can look very similar from a distance or to the untrained eye. All round kind of intimidating. I love it but I'm not sure I'll ever get up the gumption to learn it. (That and most of my language-learning background is heavily classroom-focused and I don't think I'd be able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:40 PM
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Frankly no, I didn't discern it. I've fallen into the trap of sometimes feeling inadequate next to someone better. It can get to you, but it's valuable to learn how to control it and just be glad at others' good fortune or abilities. I won't say there are positivies to having a disability, but one thing it helped me learn early is that most people are going to be physically better than me at a lot of things--women included. It's just how it is. It was sobering when I was younger. Had to work thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:45 PM
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I mean she does mention the dress and heels specifically so she might also have a problem with a man doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:27 PM
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I had to reread your earlier post and the response because I couldn't figure out why he brought up the protector role at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:24 PM
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Yes, it's true I am fairly pale. Not ghost-like but quite pale I'd say. You're probably right and I didn't really consider that aspect of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:45 PM
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Yeah the fear part is the thing that gets me. I understand being nervous around people we're sometimes attracted to; been there myself. But I've never had some kind of intense fear surrounding this dynamic. Yet this is how a lot of the younger guys describe this--fear of interaction. And sometimes I'll be offering a perspective and the response is, "must be nice not to be afraid of anything!" Of course I have my own fears, but the trick is not letting it stop one from action. Or at least working…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:02 PM
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Thank you me as well and it really is kind of a funny story (I'm biased but I think it's a funny story). Her friend from middle school came to study at my uni and I became friends with her friend and I was into meeting people from different places especially if they spoke different languages I could learn. So one day I noticed her (my partner) in some old photos our now mutual friend posted and I just thought she looked really cool and had super awesome hair so I asked our friend if maybe she co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:20 PM
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Yeah it's kind of like this. Like if we're both watching the same KDrama she will differentiate between which of the male leads are attractive vs the ones who aren't. So she also has some kind of metric for "that's a nice-looking person" but that is still not the same metric as "I might like to get to know and date this person if I met them in real-life as a regular person." Because she still wouldn't, and she knows she can totally tell me if she sees some hot person, it's not a problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:16 PM
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Eyes are one of only maybe two things that strangers sometimes ask me about and I have yet to really get it, myself. It's usually some variation of "are your eyes really this black or do you wear tinted contacts for this?" But I swear they are not all that dark and don't seem any darker than usual (we might have similar colors based on how you're describing yours). But I guess there is something there I don't see because it has happened a few times and it's always about how black they are. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:12 PM
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"above my pay grade" I love this for some reason. I sometimes have "arguments" with my partner because her standards are super niche so it is not often she'll admit to finding some other people attractive. And sometimes I'm like, "c'mon, that is a nice-looking guy there" in so many words. But her tastes are very niche. Mathematically it's almost insane that we even found each other, and I think about that a lot sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:55 PM
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I did wonder about this because he had some kind of mishap on his bike when he was a kid. So he might actually have some sort of damage to that area, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:53 PM
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While I am not qualified to actually diagnose anything in his case and never asked, there was something going on there. If you actually had to talk to him he seemed fine (i.e. it did not seem like he suffered any overt signs of low intelligence, to put it one way). There were a lot of social norms that he just didn't get, but not in the way that made you think he was actually dumb or anything, y'know? Like if you asked about maybe controlling volume or whatever he just wouldn't understand why it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:30 PM
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I was going to say engineers too, but I didn't because I don't personally know any to my knowledge. Several people in adjacent fields but not engineering per se. That said, I was going to say it because I know lots of people who do interact with engineers a lot for their own work, and they say this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:18 PM
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Compartmentalization is a good way of thinking about it probably. I say this with a love of academia and no malice at all, but many Ph.D-holders have what I'd call "compartmentalized intelligence". And many of them would be the first to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:47 PM
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The people who like this are not mentally well by default, would be my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:28 PM
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When you don't match up to the version of you they built up in their head, they can see this as a sort of betrayal of the "love" and "devotion" they've given you. If they feel betrayed in this way, and you are "not who they thought you were" their obsession can morph into something dangerous or violent. In my case she became a stalker who started to threaten not just my wellbeing but some of the people close to me, which made the situation much worse. There is no such thing as a mentally healthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:22 PM
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Based on some of the behaviors you've listed here and extrapolating what you (probably) mean by "obsessed" from this, no. In general I would still say no, I'm just explaining here because one person's obsessed might not be another's. There was some thread here a few days ago from a dude who went into detail about how he was searching for a completely obsessed person and it sounded extremely unhealthy. To his credit it sounded like he was also obsessive and was looking for someone to match his en…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:17 PM
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Yes, as far as I know he really didn't bother anyone (except me due to proximity. But he almost certainly had at least one disorder if not multiple compounding ones. He would verbatim repeat things he heard in YT videos over and over and over for example and laugh each time, etc. This is why I say it would have been challenging for both him and anyone with him to maintain a relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:02 PM
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Dang it now I want this or some form of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:02 AM
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Yes, but in my case it has almost always been from women who were not very good at hiding that they were somewhat dysfunctional from the jump. Which is to say, sure, I found them to be attractive, but it was never just "generic interest during an evening out" or something. It was more "clearly dysfunctional person seems to be getting oddly attached/obsessed".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:54 AM
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No idea whether it was OF or not, but I had a neighbor who regularly paid for cam girls in general. Unfortunately he was quite noisy, which is how I know (but he was noisy about pretty much everything tbf, not just that stuff. If he was awake he was making noise constantly and did not seem to understand the concept of headphones or volume control). He was also very, very far outside the norm as a person in general, though. He had a lot of idiosyncrasies that would very likely have made relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:40 AM
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Married an ass man. I know you probably didn't mean this to be that deep, but I think it's honestly an excellent point really. I think sometimes more guys should take this into consideration. You found someone you liked who liked you, and part of that is that you found someone who appreciated the physical attributes you had. It's not some kind of magic answer, but I do think it is one part that could help some guys. Go for someone who appreciates something of what you have. I have a lot of attri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:19 PM
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Dude your examples are pretty spot-on for stuff that happened with this friend of mine too. Wanted to hang out (or so he said) wanted more connections (or so he said) felt like nobody liked him. People invited him places. Sometimes he went. In those cases where we were in teh same social circles, he kind of just stood around. Not necessarily off in a corner, but he never really bothered actively engaging. He'd just be sort of around while other people talked. And he still complained to me privat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:05 PM
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This was my role for one of my former friends in my uni days. The worst part was it wasn't just about friendship but he also relied on me for relationship advice and venting about his lack of success--which I really wasn't in any position to advise on at that time anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:50 PM
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Very true. We don't call this kind of thing out in adults nearly enough. It is dysfunction. It is disregulation. OF very basic things we need to control in order to be proper adults. You're right, it doesn't help the personal relationships either. They get stuck in reinforced cycles and you become exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:04 PM
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There is some truth to this, yeah. Many adults are soft and underprepared for the general difficulties of life. One of my greatest disillusionments after I started growing up was seeing how so many people didn't seem to have it together mentally or emotionally. This doesn't even have to be anything drastic. Having a standard of "don't generally be a sobbing mess who cannot regularly handle life" is a fairly low standard, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:06 PM
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There's a lot of all-or-nothing views here quite often and I think it's hard to explain to some people how these things are rarely the case. But, you've laid a lot of it out here simply. I see a lot of the younger guys say "I can't be vulnerable" and what they tend to mean when you start digging down is "I've been with women who changed after I was a sobbing mess who trauma dumped on them out of nowhere." (And before anyone sees this to rebutt, I know some guys have had the unfortunate experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:02 PM
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This is very simple yet very true. It's why the "double standards" argument tht pops up doesn't really work. Not treating different people who are different from each other the same is not a double standard. It is just how different standards for different people should work. (I say this as a below-average disabled dude myself, and I don't expect to get treated just like my abled friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:25 PM
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I suppose it's on me for rarely seeking out groups that share my interests, but I don't meet to many people in the wild who also like these films; very cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:41 PM
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For all I know that could indeed be it. I'm trying to think logically here which is sometimes a mistake in these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:35 PM
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Only thing I can think of is your flair... but that's also funny because the other user has "no pills" indicating that, no, pills are not in fact fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:31 PM
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So, this reminded me of a not so funny but weird story. Some years back, my MIL had an elderly neighbor who was a widower. One evening he stopped by because he needed to know how to cook a favorite dish that his wife always cooked but he didn't know how. My MIL knew how to do this so she explained it to him and showed him what to do. He sticks around for a bit making small talk and hemming and hawing and my MIL can't figure out why he didn't leave yet. Eventually she just had to ask him and he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:28 PM
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On a personal level I agree with you, but I think you'll find there is quite a bit of rhetoric around woman "acting masculine" that other men will describe as a "turn-off". Sometimes things like traits or mannerisms, but also in activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:19 PM
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But your example of yard work is, unless I misunderstand you, attempting to frame the yard work itself as something that makes the man more attractive by doing a "manly" thing. If this is so, a woman doing a "manly" thing would have the opposite effect, not make her more attractive. In this example (following your logic) the woman is only expressing gendered appearance, not behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:03 PM
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I became friends with my missus' friend who traveled abroad and happened to study at my uni. We were on similar tracks and became friends. Later I found her friend (the missus) through social media and thought she looked cool so I asked our friend if she could do an intro. She did, we chatted for several months and then started making visits to each other's countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:58 PM
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I'm a very flawed person with a lot of work to do, but I appreciate your words thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:08 PM
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I'm not sure that's true. I hate to use this as an example but consider the (I think first time) the male lead in Transformers sees the female lead. She's under the hood of a car checking things out and the camera goes to great lengths to focus on her for the audience, through Sam's POV, to also check her out. He's unquestionably interested and from a societal POV, we wouldn't view working on a car as "feminine" coded. Yet he was interested, and it wasn't because of the activity. And I would arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:04 PM
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I try hard to make sure I look at people individually, and this is doubly difficult on the faceless internet where you can group everyone in, say, the same forum into one ambiguous category. It's important to remember that different problems are still problems. And stuff that I might not see as a problem doesn't mean someone else doesn't. That can be hard to do sometimes, though. I could easily say, "I grew up undersocialized, in a non-traditional school, isolated, and disabled, and I had to wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:50 PM
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My parents made us all wash dishes on rotation because we didn't have a dishwasher growing up. Guess what they upgraded to the second we started moving out. I'm not salty about it or anything. In all seriousness it was probably good for us. We did the cleaning and mopping and whatnot on rotation as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:25 PM
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I sort of get your question, I just don't think I'd be able to answer it without first defining what I subjectively believe is feminine and answering from that. And for some other guy, what I define may not fit that at all. And it wouldn't really matter. But I do agree with you masculinity is more rigidly defined, probably. There are people who would look at how weirdly I walk and decide that is less masculine and that I am as a result, for example. It's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:19 PM
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Unless he has bread with him at the time and can do the idiot sandwich thing. I don't know if I've ever seen more than a couple of episodes of any of the shows he's done, but somehow that sticks with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:17 PM
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Bonus points if you can guess accurately what his response would be (there's so many possibilities.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:13 PM
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Yeah I didn't point this out in my post but I was also thinking it. Like, I know it was just an example from OP trying to come up with something, the other men I know wash dishes regularly. My FIL bakes his own bread and other things. I don't know anyone who would tell him he's not acting like one of the bros enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:09 PM
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Much like how we talk about the opression olympics in the disabled community, perhaps we should also do away with the olympics in the discussions of gender dynamics too, instead of going all in on both. (That said, I do think I have some privileges as a man. It doesn't mean I don't have problems, but I do think being a man specifically affords me some level of inherent comfort. Specifically with regard to my physical safety. Even as a disabled guy, I'm relatively secure in my ability to destroy …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:06 PM
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This question isn't all that clear. Unless you're asking each dude to answer based on what he defines as "feminine" vs "acting like one of the bros". I like women, and women are different from men, and I like women differently from how I like men because they are different from men. It is true that how a woman acts will either be a draw or a deterrent, but I'm hard-pressed to come up with some kind of specific signifier that tells me it's either "feminine" or "one of the bros" and base my attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:59 PM
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I don't completely disagree with your last point, but I think there's a difference between something like "it's not my favorite but oh well" and doing something you actively dislike doing. Your verbiage seems to suggest you actively don't like the thing--in this case giving oral. Which I think is on another level from being meh about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:50 PM
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Not the person you asked and I wouldn't call them weirdos, but they're very much outside the norm. Many people are in some way or another... but it's just factual that as far as intimate relations between humans go, an ace person is outside the norm for most people. I think an ace person would likely be happiest with someone who is also ace. The question assumes that the hypothetical person is ace but not aro (since they want to date) so this is probably the best match for them. I say that as so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:47 PM
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It doesn't, but that's only because I don't want other people to deal with being potentially out of sync with their body, either. ;) I mean I hope you're cool with it, but if it is tough I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:53 PM
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Unfortunately I already have the glasses :/ I've been fortunate that the people who usually express interest also for whatever reason regard glasses as "fashionable" (if you make sure they fit your face/look well). I don't think I would do botox myself. I have some crows lines around the eyes. I think my most aged feature now at 37 is that I think my hair especially at the sides has a lot more grey in it than it should at this age. But I promised myself I'd age gracefully and I'm trying to stick…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:27 AM
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I have this forehead problem despite my best efforts. It's like the concentration lines appear even when I'm not concentrating particularly hard. I didn't notice but some people pointed it out so I guess it's very noticeable--at least if it's happening when someone doesn't think you;re concentrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:07 AM
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Yeah I feel similarly about distant history in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:59 PM
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I'm judgmental of it but I haven't decided about whether it is straight-up immoral or not, personally. If that was my judgment, I'd have to think similarly about pretty much any media that is in any way inspired by a real death or a real war, as those things can also affect the people who went through them or had to deal with them for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:15 PM
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I wish there were also D and A tiers in this list. I feel it is incomplete.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:53 PM

I was actually thinking about Black Summer when I wrote that comment as it is one of the more recent examples of their gibberish. And I say that as someone who finds it a catchy tune. But if you listen to it, it really is just nonsense. Which is not bad, per se, as you say I think there is something to be said for it sounding very pleasant. It's just a bit funny how nonsensical it and so many of their songs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:53 PM
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You make a good point. RHCP wouldn't exist if music had to be logical (I say this with some degree of nostalgia).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:18 PM
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I don't really think their focus in on the victims as sexual rivals. It just so happens that very often, women are the victims of the types of crimes that become very popular podcast (or other medium) episodes. What people are after is the voyeuristic thrill of the salaciousness of the cases (the "crazier, twistier" cases will be more popular). That's the primary driver here--if there is a crazy case where the victims are men, it would also garner audience attention for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:16 PM
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I feel like you should've just described this from the hypothetical male POV, but otherwise yeah. Everyone out there is looking for the best deal they can get, including and perhaps especially in relationships. There's no moralizing to be had when it comes to adults dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:14 PM
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I should clarify that in that statement I was specifically focusing on parts of your argument, such as some sort of "desire to see their rivals eliminated." That did not seem to be a sound conclusion to me. When I say heavy commercialization, I'm comparing what true crime was perhaps 15-ish years ago with what it is now. It's much less niche and much more sensationalized and, if we're honest, the most popular stuff and the most salacious stuff tends to be the stories that have the worst outcomes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:08 AM
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Eh.... we're more likely to be put into positions where we have to, maybe. And guys who might envision doing it willingly--even me, to some extent--are definitely not thinking about doing it for the random on the street because we feel "unconditional love" for her. There are people I'd put much at risk for, but this is by no means an infinite number and I don't think it is for most of my fellow dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:26 PM
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I cannot stop laughing at how that came out at the end. I mean it was kinda perfect. It's honestly something I wish I'd thought of if I decided to troll about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:23 PM
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That's neither true nor the same as unconditional. Even if it was, that's more the nature of a certain type of naivete some men display, not the nature of man in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:03 PM
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One of my courses had required reading on how death and dying was/is perceived across various cultures. I do think it can be both an informative and interesting topic, to be sure. I just don't know if we're really doing that with current true crime, really. I'm not saying we aren't; I'm much more distant from it than I was so unless I go take a long hard look at it, it's not for me to say really. I do think it changed quite a bit say, in the last decade or so though. But that could just be subje…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:11 PM
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Good question. I don't have an objective definition, but my definition is treating my partner like she's the best person ever. Which comes out in various ways in different situations. But to me, it boils down to that. And in this way I also get princess treatment. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:16 PM
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Hey, I'm also interesting in how cults form and all that. I have to be careful with what I consume with that for much the same reason. Am I helping exploitation to thrive and profit? As an example, I really wanted to check out the minseries on Dahmer that hit Netflix a couple of years ago. (I think the same production studio made a Menendez Bros thing more recently). I couldn't do it, though, as all of it just seemed like it was creating a very weird MCU-esque serial killer thing. Did it actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:10 PM
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It depends on what kind of relationship you're talking about, for me. Is this someone I know very well and have been intimate with? Someone who I know is strong on their own and can pave her own way and handle life like an adult, but also has qualities that make her so incredible that I want to treat her this way? Or are we talking that this should be default behavior even when dating and I don't know any of that? Because that is different. The way I was raised emphasizes the former--for both me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:38 PM
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As a guy who used to be into some true crime stuff but stopped a few years ago due to what I felt was very heavy commercialization of it... You raise some interesting points I need to think about regarding whether the differences I see in fiction vs. "real crime" repackaged as entertainment are indeed all that different. Good food for thought thanks. (I don't think OP makes a sound argument in their post, but I've long felt somewhat uncomfortable with true crime as it has become more and more po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:26 PM
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It depends much on time and place. For example, my missus is from a place where there are at least half a dozen viable political parties along a spectrum of what Americans might broadly consider "left/right." What this means is that voting patterns can be much more varied without necessarily fracturing friendships or families. This is not to say that there are no hard dealbreakers there; of course there are. But it does mean many of the "differing opinions" don't rise to such a starkly contraste…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:08 PM
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That's possible but it's mostly just splitting hairs at that point. And it still pretty much describes a FWB situation at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:51 PM
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Most of the women I know tend to work out regularly. They mostly are not hitting the weight machines, but they're working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:24 AM

This could vary from person to person but in my circle I'd be talking about maybe putting an arm around shoulders or a person being very open to initiating a hug just from seeing you, etc. So, somewhat more let's say physically affectionate but nothing to do with grabbing your head/hair, grinding, trying to press against you (in a way that isn't a hug) or any of this other stuff. I would not read arm around shoulders or hug as anything sexual whereas in all the stuff that happened to you, all se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:59 PM

I was around a lot of the drama people in my circles and this would just be making excuses. Yeah they're a little more gregarious sometimes but not this. Definitely harrassment territory. This is very unambiguous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:49 PM
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I would say I am someone who doesn't always vibe with kids very well honestly, but it isn't because I dislike them or anything. For whatever reason kids tend to like to be around me so if that happens I try to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:25 PM
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Oof, that might be too much spice all at once honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:05 PM
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But the question becomes what happens if you draw a reverso card? Gotta put an item back on I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:55 PM
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We all played UNO and one thing led to another and my friend ended up having sex with her I'm sure the UNO itself is not central to the eventual sex, but in my heart I hope that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:34 PM
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Not a woman but curious as to what age groups are included here. There's a difference between a 16- or even 20-year-old never having done it and a person twice that age never having done it. (To be clear, I don't think anything in particular about either of those hypothetical people, but it's a given that one is going to seem more "acceptable" not having approached than the other). And while I see the point you're trying to make at the beginning, it's just true that ain't nobody meeting a whoppi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:07 PM
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I agree with all of this, which is why I think 20% is "good" in this context. I'm also with someone going on 15 years now, and before that I had a few relationships and some semi-regular interest/approaches from women (nothing major, but I'm told this is rare, I dunno). In short, I just think rejection from most people is completely normal. I think a lot of younger people feel if they aren't getting some form of attention from "many" (if not necessarily most) strangers in whom they are intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:34 PM
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Growing up, most people in my spheres seemed to have 3 or 4 at a minimum, but some did have 1 or 2. My parents adopted 4 and although it was just personal, anything more than 4 seemed like a "large" family to us. Two is pretty normal where my partner is from and beyond that I think they already consider 3 to be unusual and 4 to be large-ish. So to her I come from a "big" family, interestingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:50 PM
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My favorite part is that "attractive" women would be expected to jump on the "average" dick. Obviously they should be going for "attractive" dick to match. The audacity of these standards. (This is a joke, which I'll put here as a disclaimer because this place is this place)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:20 PM
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I dunno what you mean by "accepting", but I can assure you as a man familiar with women, every single woman already knows this. And mostly they learn about it before they're even women, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:13 PM
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Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:55 PM
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Not that I entirely agreew with them, but you're in a place where many dudes insist that all they experience is rejection all the time every time. If that is indeed their lived experience, 20% success rate is actually pretty good in this framing. People don't seem to realize how normal rejection is. It's normal for most strangers to not really be that interested in dating someone specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:37 PM
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This is mostly my experience as well... she's had occasion to use my name a handful of times of course, but it just feels off a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:07 PM
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Sometimes I think about how weird it is that we don't call each other by our names that much. I mean it's not weird really, but it kinda sounds almost weird when you have to do it, y'know? And she doesn't like her full name (I love it but she doesn't for some reason. I think because it's a super common name for her generation) so if I do use her name I have to use the diminuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:57 PM
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I thought about that too, but I'd put that kind of intimacy firmly in the "romantic" category myself. It isn't just that, but it is in part that, so when someone says "not romantic at all" I assume we're talking none of that level of intimacy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:49 PM
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Probably not. I say that even as someone whose partner really doesn't do some of this stuff by default because culturally she's just a bit "colder" than most people tend to think of when they think of a romantic partner. This woman sounds like she has a rather business-like roommate arrangement with whomever she's dating, which is not what I'd look for personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:41 PM
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My dad would rarely mention "war" stuff as well but he does it less so now. And even then it was always "far away" war stuff that he wouldn't actually ever have to worry about. He'd never admit this but he's deep down way too sensitive to ever actually do what he'd call "war stuff". (He's often "sensitive" in some of the wrong ways, as well, which he'd also never be able to admit).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:18 PM
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All you have to do is have a conversation. You don't even have to use words like "politics" or "values" or whatever nonsense. You just have a normal chat and people tell you about themselves and listen to you tell about yourself. This part is not about you specifically but it is wild to me how many sub-20 people genuinely don't seem to know how to start or keep a conversation going. You should be able to do this through any medium--text, voice chat, vid chat, and of course in person. To answer y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:15 PM
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When I was in the game, I didn't signal personally. I just went about doing my thing and if women approached and wanted to start chatting me up, all good. Mind you, the time when this happened most frequently was during my uni years, which is probably no surprise. I did some approaching myself, but mostly I just did my thing and if women wanted to show interest, I let them. It's not like it happened every day or anything, but often enough for my purposes I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:02 PM
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I think this is regional (I mean globally regional). There are places where this would be considered at least "heavy" for a shorter person (man or woman) and places where it isn't. I don't think there's anything wrong with the woman in the first photo for example. But my missus would say she's big. Her cultural standards for weight are just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:53 PM
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Yes Yes No Yes No Yes No Depends on the content I suppose but I don't know how much knitting goes on there No Yes Yes I might... but sexual compatibility is important. My parents find this to be the ideal, though. Yes Yes No (nothing wrong with it, just not for me) No No No Yes Yes Yes Yes This would depend on how she carries it Yes Yes Some of these are dependent on certain milestones in life, and I answered most of them as the person I am now in my late 30s. For example, the sorority thing wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:00 PM
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It's not scientific but I once read that as a gauge, a new couple should put a coin in a jar for every time they have sex in the first year. After that, take a coin out for every time after the first year and see if it empties as quickly as you filled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:57 PM
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That's true but "providing for family" is partially in one's self-interest. While you could say that "society" places this expectation on men, myself and many men I know also place it on ourselves. From this notion we could debate which is the chicken and which is the egg, but ultimately I think that is futile. Men who value traits like responsibility in themselves will hold themselves to a standard regardless. To be clear, I don't judge people who buck those roles if they find partners who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:48 PM
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Sort of, but it doesn't really have anything to do with expecting 110%. Our relationship was somewhat unusual as it was long-distance for several months right at the start so once we actually starting seeing each other in person we were already at a comfort stage and knew each other quite well. I'm not really talking trackies every day of the week (although she does like trackies) or anything like that. Just that we never had this "here's me trying extra hard in the dating phase which I wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:44 PM
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There's probably a component of that too yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:10 AM
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It possibly changed in the last few years, but back when the missus and I first got together she'd tell me about how the miners in her region were always railing against improved safety measures and better, newer equipment. Primarily because they knew if things were safer, their pay would be lower. At this time it had one of the highest pays you could get, so it was very lucrative but pretty dangerous of course. Especially with the use of antiquated equipment. Like I said that could've changed s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:56 AM
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Ach. People who have such a strong reaction to a joke are the worst. I'm sorry it made you a target for abuse. And while I won't make assumptions about that dude, the people I have met who are like that are often ones who love to tell jokes at others' expense and them claim "it's just a joke" if the other party takes (nonviolent) offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:06 PM
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That's true; it just means that they do a risk assessment and proceed from there. That sort of thing isn't for me personally, but I don't think I'll be changing any minds of strangers on the internet who are into it, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:02 PM
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As someone with this type of damage from this, I appreciate the point you're making but it's different with two consenting adults who are considerate of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:47 PM
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This bait is not convincing. You mention the US but you do not write like someone who lives there, for one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:57 PM
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I don't disagree but I think Thane deserves a mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:47 PM
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I think what you say at the end here is particularly important and something that is sometimes lost in the consideration when people read things like this. Find someone compatible with you who is generous toward you and to whom you feel like being generous in return. That's really the best match. My partner is super thoughtful with gifts and loves to buy gifts even though she conversely doesn't really buy things for herself much or like spending money just to spend it or acquire things. Yet she …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:49 PM
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Your doubts are correct. She did not--by her own admission--pass !00% of the time. It's hard to say how much or how often she passed, but there were a lot of time during this "experiment" that she did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:37 PM
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You can have confidence without any reason. People do this all the time. They almost always look silly, but they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:35 PM
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Hmm.. well to answer the question here and this is just me having a bit of a think about it... I don't really know if you can create this kind of mutual standard. What I mean is, at some point in the relationship you both know each other well enough (before it gets too serious) to see "this person is someone who, like me, has an expectation putting in the work and I can tell they expect similar from me". And so you both sort of see that and acknowledge that in each other (even if silently). So i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:07 PM
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And about money (a form of survival) of all things to boot. What I'm curious about is how many seemingly high-paying positions that afford a good lifestyle still include people living beyond their means. I mention this only because I've known a few people who had these kinds of jobs so their displays of wealth made sense to me. Later found out in some of those cases that a lot of that lifestyle was funded on credit and burned later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:09 PM
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Oh probably--by leaving immediately in an indignant huff. There's a good gif for that (I think it might be a James Franco one) but I'm awful at finding random gifs I've seen so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:11 PM
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I like your framing--figure out for oneself how they enhance your life--don't ask them to sell you a story. The question always struck me as odd because it is usually framed as a first/early date question so then it's basically a stranger's sales pitch. If a person knows what they want in a partner or life goals, they can see early on if another person meets the basic standards there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:00 PM
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This was an interesting read, but I have to wonder how often this is really happening in actual real life between actual real humans who are interested in each other enough to go on an actual date. From my own perspective nothing about "working hard" whether we define it by the metrics you've listed there above or any combination of others is offensive. I'm a bit older so it was instilled in me from an early age. That said, I was also taught to expect the same from my partners, which I can and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:51 PM
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I was also going to say that's insane. Although it isn't totally surprising when you consider the percentages of people who vastly overestimate things like how much of the budget goes to X program over Y program... things like that. Also fairly common (and not only in the US--people are really out here just making up whatever numbers suit the notions in their heads). This particular thing with overestimating wealth does sort of explain why so many people who will definitely never be wealthy migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:46 PM

Hey man, I promise you I read all of this, and I just wanted to show some solidarity. My situation isn't like yours because my disability is outward (though still physical) and I don't have the same issues that you do that limit me to the house nor stuff like the shyness. So I can't say we're the same or offer some grand solution or anything like that. I'm sorry for how people have treated you, though, and you often write thoughtful posts that despite everything are not full of bitterness. Thank…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:48 PM
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Your post mentions a "socioeconomic scenario" as part of the crux of your argument but goes on to seemingly talk just about dating dynamics. While I won't say the two are unrelated, it would be helpful if you as OP could flesh out what you mean specifically when you're talking about dating and the socioeconomics you're thinking of in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:24 PM
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Dang it it's almost time to replay the trilogy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:12 PM
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That is something I bring up here often when appropriate. I'm a guy with what might be considered high standards (I don't know really) and there is a subset of guys who will openly admit that they "can't afford" any standards (and by extension believe all average men also cannot). Coupled with any guy who does have standards somehow magically being "high-value" in their minds... I think there is just this massive disconnect between these two groups of guys. I still think more guys than not do ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:07 PM
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My bad I thought you had mentioned you have no luck. That's great to hear as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:56 PM
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I know you struggle with dating but honestly, congrats on that level of security/life-building in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:44 PM
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I sympathize as a fellow disabled (though a man). Disabled dating is quite the different experience from average dating, though, I think. A lot of additional components and nuances. All that said, I'm glad you found someone who accepted you for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:40 PM
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He's pretending that this is what you found attractive even though you explained the rest in the following sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:49 PM
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Both are still very fundamental parts of a being and doing a complete almost instantaneous 180 of that magnitude is, in my estimation, quite weird. That said, none of this really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:54 AM
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I get that this is tagged as a debate. But, honestly, if you're of a mind that something like this is just not worth it... I don't think you can be convinced. Particularly here, of all places. Which is fine as far as it goes... if you don't think it's worth it you don't think it's worth it and won't be pursuing those kinds of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:45 PM

It got better and better though... is "better" the right word here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:39 PM

It's the "if no one is with me I call them names" bit that gave me this expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:17 PM

I don't just get randomly aroused by people I see in public. And I don't have time to cook up any kind of fantasies about them even if I did. Much like ComfortableJeans, I have stuff to be doing when I'm out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:11 PM

That and, similarly, it's also something of a shower thought. One of the ones that should just be kinda private.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:08 PM
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Anything someone has as a standard that they can "get" (for purposes of discussion of relationship dynamics) within a partner is reasonable. Subjectively, reasonable or unreasonable standards are going to differ from one person or culture to the next. Otherwise, only standards they are unable to actually find in the people they attract are "unreasonable."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:04 PM
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No. I like my sexuality and am comfortable with it, including dealing with some of the supposed hardships of it and whatnot. I can't relate to most of the supposed reasons those dudes give for wishing they could change their orientation, I guess (referring here to the numbered points you've listed above). I just go for women who have relatively equal libidos to mine, share my sense of humor, give good fashion advice, join me in hobbies, allow me to open up, etc. I don't see why I'd want to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:13 AM
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Just to clarify, it's a single word: whereas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:48 AM
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I can only speak for myself, but I do more than the bare minimum for a few reasons (at least the conscious ones). Partially to improve what I consider a "decent" standard of living. Partially because it affords me more opportunities to have more experiences that I consider enriching, and partially because I was just taught that doing only the "bare minimum" (although to be fair this is somewhat subjective) is definitely "not good enough or acceptable." I do think it is fine to push back against …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:11 PM
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I'm not really sure these types of questions really fit the sub. Much like how the full-zip hoodies might fall off the shoulder, one could say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:05 PM
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All forms of forcible coercion or other situations which result in loss of bodily control and sense of self are severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:54 PM
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Not a woman but, "not exactly his type" and "not very attractive" are different things to me. I would not try to date anyone whom I found "not very attractive". It just wouldn't make sense to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:33 PM
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Did you mean to say "not exclusive either?" Otherwise I'm not sure what it is you're trying to say, or what is supposed to be "it" that is "not like anything"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:26 PM
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It's a somewhat deeper extension of how obsessed some dudes get over the size of their peen in relation to all the other dudes out there (which happens quite a bit here as well, though we're experiencing a bit of a lull on that topic for now)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:08 PM
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You ever get the feeling PPD doesn’t know how to people properly?! "squirting is a psyop"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:23 PM
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It's been a minute (and I don't even know what the tree thing is) but yeah quite a few other dudes seemed to take the bear thing as a personal sleight against them. I will grant you that they probably weren't well-adjusted in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:57 PM
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I mean I think everybody picks their best available option. But that's just normal behavior. To be clear, I don't take it seriously when other dudes say "be pleasant" is their minimum or whatever other stuff. Or, particularly, when anyone tries to moralize dating standards as more or less noble, which also happens quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:02 PM
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That's a fair point. I guess it's hard to say generally . There are quite a few guys on here who are by their own admission extremely desperate for any sort of relationship on any terms. Some who are even in relationships with people who they claim don't like them but they want to take what they can get. That said.... we're mostly not dealing with average guys here specifically, so what is true for the average doesn't necessarily apply. I don't know the what the cohort is of fellow dudes who, fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:18 PM
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Men's standards may be lower (something I as a man encourage them to raise), but that doesn't mean the hippie van chick is going to convince any type of man to change his lifestyle and live in a van with her. Only the extremely desperate would even consider this. The hippie chick would need to find a hippie dude--especially if her life plan is living out of a van. Most people are not built for that. Even people who love to travel aren't really built for that. ETA: When I say "desperate" I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:54 PM

I knew some of this but, dang, it's nice to see something so informative among the morass absolute insanity that is the usual for this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:26 PM

I wouldn't say "gentrified" but I do stratify people who use the term unironically into a sort of hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:58 PM

Much a W's growth is just down to being the only (main) game in town in a lot of places. Which is not a judgment call but more just statement of fact. Where my parents live, for example, there is one other place you can buy most food products (usually slightly better quality at a slightly higher price point.) For pretty much anything non-food-related, you have to go to W unless you want to get everything online (which could also include W). When I was a kid growing up in these same places it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:52 PM

You're in the wrong sub. Wait just a darn minute... are you Joe?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:48 PM
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There's a metric tonne I would change in education. That said, speaking only for myself, whenever I give an opinion on "lifting oneself up", I'm never talking about boys or girls. And even when I do, I do my best to emphasize that, yes, you can indeed be very industrious and still fail because that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:04 PM
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This, I think, is part of the crux of it. "Why don't strangers care about me." It was different in the past when we understood that on some level all the strangers made up "society" and broadly, society caring about itself was good. But a lot of it now is really, "why don't strangers care about me specifically" and I think a lot of that is the need for online validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:51 PM
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Most individuals are not in a position to cause what we might describe as massive suffering to the population. They could perhaps massively affect the lives of a few people in their orbit, but not populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:43 PM
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I feel like there's a story here which I want to know but also don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:00 PM
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Oh, interesting.. I was not aware of their profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:00 PM
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Yeah this kind of talk makes me feel like some kind of 10% man. That just can't be true. I'm not special in any of the good ways and am special in some of the not great ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:59 PM
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That's actually one of the main things Westerners don't seem to get about it when they discuss it--I don't meet too many people who understand that it isn't a movement the way we typically define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:48 AM
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As opposed to what, though? It's a pretty tame word in the UK (and other places). US puts a lot more weight on it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:40 PM
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I'm not suggesting nobody considers themselves such. Just that it behooves us to look at social media trends with a critical eye. A lot of stuff I'm into (not necessarily movements per se) can trend quite a bit but I'm also aware that they really aren't "popular" as we usually understand or apply the term. Using my own interests as an example, a lot of this stuff does seem popular in microcosm but really isn't outside of people who share the interest. Stuff like social media makes it look a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:36 PM
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I'm not gonna lie I'm a weirdo who enjoys at least some aspects of your usual weather there. That said, I "run a bit hot" usually, which most people probably don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:35 PM
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I know you didn't mean this to be funny, and I apologize for finding humor in the last sentence there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:23 PM
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In the full context of population of the country demographics and the relative attention it gets, it is very small. That's not really my talking point per se; that's info I get from my Korean mates--both men and women. I trust their take on it there on the ground more than Westerners who mostly just romanticize it. Redpill is also not popular. While there are certainly more spaces than just this one, there are fewer than 200k members here worldwide, and maybe about 300 of those could be said to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:09 PM
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Right? I love how those are the only two acronyms in her post and somehow it made the whole thing incomprehensible to this user. (I also had to think about SES but, only for a few seconds before context and thinking kicked in to tell me what it was) Critical thinking skills and attention spans really are getting absymal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:43 PM
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Yep. Not a woman, but my sister got a lot of this (some of it maybe slightly modified based on geography maybe but, still, very similar) and I think you are probably the generation after her so... the trend continues it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:39 AM
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It's also not super relevant in its country of origin. I just point that out because a lot of the talk in non-Asian spaces made it into a huge thing and warped it and made it seem like a big, concerted effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:48 PM
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True. The whole "having it thrust upon you" is a nice sentiment but it is also very noteworthy when that happens precisely because of how rare it is. There's a pretty famous example of this where my wife is from and it's the only one I can think of off the top of my head (I'm sure there are others but they don't easily come to mind).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:50 PM
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Heck even since I was a kid it changed quite a bit... the super dedicated younger people stay, the ones really connected to the community or their families. But quite a few of them do leave. It can be difficult to incentivize if you aren't from one of those groups. Last town my folks moved us to when I was a kid was mostly middle-aged and seniors--very few young people in the town at all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:08 PM
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You're not wrong, but there are quite a few people who insist they will die alone because they don't have an intimate partner regardless if they do have friends or family--those don't count apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:08 AM
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You point out one of the most glaring examples of how easy it is for us to delude ourselves when it comes to our own goodness (or, at the very least, our ability as humans to view ourselves with positive bias). Some of those murderers, really, truly convinced themselves that they had a pure, deep love for the person they brutally ended. Sometimes they seem so convinced that they're baffled no one else sees it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:06 PM
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They didn't read yesterday's thread on the topic. Or maybe it was the day before... or maybe both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:04 PM
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Yeah the title term doesn't match the one in the body--settling down has always been what you describe for as long as I've heard the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:30 PM
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I agree--and I think such articles bringing such attention to an obvious nonissue are silly, to put it mildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:29 PM
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Because no one wants "unwanted" people to try to approach them more. It's in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:49 PM
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Those articles, such as they are, aren't really talking about the passive, silent, unwanted men who go about their business, though. They're by definition unwanted (at least as far as the paradigm we're going with for the purposes of this discussion). When anyone is "concerned" that men aren't approaching as much, they don't mean those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:45 PM
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It depends on the city/town/village. Aside from the obvious examples of religious institutions--which I leave out because if the dude is not religious he won't be able to fake it well and shouldn't try--basically any event that is broadly labeled as a "community event." We had a lot of these when I was growing up, though most of them were based around small agricultural communities and the shared interests and work there. They're still present in today's said communities. Which brings me to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:09 PM
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To be perfectly honest... spaces most young men (myself included at the time) would find rather boring and unexciting. Spaces where sexual tension isn't simply ignored but in many cases frowned upon. I'm not suggesting all women who don't like or engage in promiscuity are like this--or that they themselves are boring if they are like this--but if you're a young man who wants this type of young woman, you have to go where they are. And where they are is typically in spaces that don't do sexual te…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:43 PM
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We seemed to have a decent mix as well. There were at least a few times during my tenure there that campus police visited my dorm specifically, which was kinda weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:01 PM
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Now that you mention that, I think I remember we conversed about this before. I'm just bad at remembering usernames here for the most part, ha. It's not very nice, these hierarchies... but it just is the way it is, and we just have to find our place in them. I think in rare cases with a lot of work you can even change your place in them (at least as far as you are concerned relative to where you were before, which is what counts). But, a lot of people aren't interested in doing that. Which is fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:57 PM
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It's hard for me to gauge just how serious the average student population was at the time, I guess. In terms of rankings, average GPAs and graduation rates everything pointed to "relatively serious" students I suppose. We did have dorm rules for "sharing one's space" at night but these appeared to be largely ignored whenever it was convenient. (not by the RAs, necessarily).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:49 PM
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I mean this is sort of weird but not really. Humans are masters of making themselves feel like special snowflakes, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:57 PM
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Yeah that can be an issue. I don't know where you moved to and it is somewhat dependent on country/continent, but mostly even those places have bastions of non-prog spaces where the less adventurous women gather. I moved to a more "progressive" for lack of a better word city for university studies but there were still plenty of places where women who were not interested in sex all that much gathered. The problem I saw was that many of my fellow dudes would say they liked that in a woman but did …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:37 PM
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As someone who grew up around the quiet, low-n women, I think the issue is that a lot of these guys do not frequent spaces where quiet, low-n women gather. (That, and if they're unlucky when they're younger that can be harder to find--the ones who are LTR or marriage-minded early in life get scooped rather early by the men who want the same. Generally speaking.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:25 PM
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And it's not even that I think particularly badly about these people on a personal level--I try not to. I know things can be out of sorts sometimes. I was born disabled myself and I had to work really hard (though I think most people do in fairness) to succeed. Ironically, driving a personal vehicle was one of the hardest things due to some neurological issues that made it difficult. To this day I'm not really jazzed about driving, ha. It's just something I have to do when I have to do it. So I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:57 PM
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You are not wrong, but part of this is (some) men's willingness to date and/or pair up long-term with people like this. Women with few to no job prospects living at home in their 30s, for example. As a guy constantly trying to encourage fellow guys to get standards--guys have to stop doing this kind of stuff. Outside of some extreme edge case, if she's at home at this age with few prospects, something is fundamentally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:28 PM

It sounds like you live somewhere where you can very much have a "regular" life without a personal vehicle. My missus is from a place like that. Last I checked my MIL in her 70s has never had a license or a personal vehicle--never was a hinderance to her career path. There are definitely more cars there now than when we met, but a lot of that is a "gotta keep up with the Joneses" effect rather than an actual need.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:23 PM
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I think your point would have more merit if your assertion was that both masculinity and femininity are abitrary. That said, I do think that in general sometimes young people overthink things like this. Are you a man? Great, you're masculine. But what about, say, when men make other men feel small or less "manly"? Surely this is some kind of attack on masculinity? Well, not specifically. It's usually an attack on perceived weakness, because weakness (not sensitivity, but lack of resolve) is inhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:18 PM
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While you're not entirely wrong, keep in mind that in many places in the world, there are artificial restraints placed on both men and women when it comes to defending themselves or achieving some sort of "safety equilibrium."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:11 PM
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ASL is one of those languages I really need to get off my butt and learn. I keep telling myself I will do it and I keep putting it off. I'm dealing with some slight stiffness in the fingers lately which I hope is not related to any of the neuropathy associated with my palsy stuff, and I really should start learning some of it now in case it's harder to sign later. Yeah I was born at in the latter half of the 80s and consider most of my formative years to be the 90s. Stuff was kind of a different…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:59 PM
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If I recall correctly, your parents pretty regularly raised fosters from the system in a near-continuous line at some point, is that right? I would say that is a pretty unique experience. We knew some foster families when we were coming up as kids, but it was pretty much always one or two foster kids at specific points in the family history. Nothing wrong with that, just that I think it is different from what I remember you saying your experience was. I have no stats at all, but it seems like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:55 PM
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I believe you when you say it feels deep to you. I cannot claim to know what that is like tbh, so I'm not really in a position to judge it from my perspective of not knowing. It sounds like it would not feel very nice, but again, this is something I haven't experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:48 PM
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Okay I see what your saying more. I sort of answer this with my reply above about something you say ascribing feelings of "love" to hobbies and things we enjoy. But, to be more clear, in general I agree that one can "love" for example being around (in this case) women and being at a party with them and interacting with them and getting a bit of a high just from that. That seems to be what you're describing as something that can still give you good vibes if the other people don't reciprocate. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:46 PM
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I don't think it's wrong to describe things we really like as "love", but I also think what you're trying to assert in your OP is supposed to be deeper. I've even said in the past that I just "really love women." But I don't actually mean that I have a deep, abiding affection for strange women I don't know well enough to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:39 PM
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Sorry I meant "put up" as in "put up for adoption". Admittedly I don't know if that's still the usual way people talk about adoption; that's just how people always phrased it when I was a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:52 PM
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Admittedly, I'm not sure I follow your response here. If you might clarify. I do tend to notice how people treat others, provided I'm in their presence long enough to notice, and these things can change my estimation of the person's character, indeed. I think it's reasonable to have an expectation of reciprocity from a person whom you feel you love and, importantly, would like to build a life with. I don't think love with zero expectation of reciprocity would give me a clear mind, personally. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:45 PM
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That's sort of true but notice you said "like" not "love". I'm very happy women exist generally but I'm not out here just loving a bunch of random women who exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:38 PM
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Not who you asked but as an adoptee you're not wrong; I just think the parent-child relationship is quite different. I assumed OP was really saying "[men] have to love women in the romatic sense unconditionally." I do assert somewhere in here that unconditional is not possible, but I also think a caveat is often (not always but often) is the parent-child relationship (including adoptees or fosters, etc). Parents often give their love to children regardless of how many times or how badly they mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:37 PM
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That is in my view a somewhat callous thing to say, but, it's not necessarily untrue. When I was a younger man, I took the second option you provide here "fully integrating the thought that no one else would care". It doesn't necessarily feel good, but I felt mostly neutral about it after a while. I came to realize that, for the most part, caring about strangers beyond the basic "don't actively make their lives worse (which itself would be a form of care/attention in itself anyway) was pretty mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:21 PM
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Your title doesn't appear to match the body of your thesis, unless I'm missing something. I think what you mean is "men need to love unconditionally" as the body of the post seems to indicate. The title heavily implies that men need to be the recipients of unconditional love (which I would argue many people here do seem to want, but I don't think that's what you're saying). Not only do I think humans cannot give this kind of love, I don't think it is a healthy kind of love to give even if we cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:04 PM
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Yeah I can see how that might be the case, responding to your last point here. As someone heavily undersocialized but, as far as I know, not divergent, eye contact was a big thing I had to work on a lot once I got older. It was one of the main "goals" I set for myself when I would attend university social events or similar gatherings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:54 PM
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Dang it--now I have to go check out this old trend to see if I can spot the expressions or if I too would similarly miss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:18 PM
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In our case I don't really see it happening (the asking) because we had to spend quite a bit of time apart early in the relationship as we lived on different continents for a while. So, we like to "catch up" on all that sharing that we missed. That said, we have similar sleep patterns and habits, and neither of us overly disturbs the other. I could see perhaps separate beds of a sort if that were to change as good sleep is important. My parents do this, but it's only now as they're older after d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:55 PM
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I'm trying to be more understanding because I always told myself that I don't want to be one of those adults who just "doesn't get" young people problems and doesn't care that I don't get it. I admit, though, I struggle sometimes. Talking on the phone is probably my least favorite communication method (unless it is to get one piece of information) and I much prefer either face-to-face or a message. I am not sure why. But that said, it's not hard or anxiety-inducing to do it. There's a few others…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:03 PM
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That's a good point. Even with public figures, though, it's kind of tough. I can think of one or two who present as what I'd define as "decent folk" and yet if I really wanted to emulate them in any substantive way, I think I'd be a little stuck. There's not a lot there to emulate beyond the surface. Which isn't bad, I don't expect public figures to give intimate details of their own inner workings, it would just make this process difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:09 PM
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Like others, I don't see why we should need to avoid people in our personal lives such as family members. Some of my family members have taught me many valuable, positive ways to behave as a man. In other cases, they've specifically modeled behaviors to avoid or behaviors I consider weak (non-gendered but still weak). In both cases, the modeling is highly valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:43 PM
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Yeah we're still kinda hopeful for some of these kids because she knows they're aren't even social shut-ins. But recently one of them was complaining about having to call and talk to someone about an internship (which is how we started discussing talking on the phone) and this person relayed to my partner that she was having a panic attack about it. I'm trying to understand it but I admit I struggle with it. When I was about eight I already had to sometimes answer phones for my dad's business an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:39 PM
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My missus has to work with quite a few young people of both sexes (mid-20s at most but occasionally younger) and it's crazy how many of them seem terrified of basic human interaction sometimes. We've recently been discussing talking on the phone because there is a bizarrely high number of young people who claim that is stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:32 PM
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I would prefer to choose something different for the sake of it but I have to be honest, it's "Don't Bring Me Down" for me as well. Dang I never thought I'd see a great ELO joke here of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:47 PM
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It's intriguing what makes certain kids set goals like that. On some level you can "get" most of the obvious dream jobs kids have... one thing in common those usually have is some level of obvious excitement that can appeal to kids or even adults. Accounting though... I mean to each their own and maybe there are some adrenaline-fueled assignments out there, but I just don't know. The missus' job isn't accounting but it is very much adjacent. She's good at the job but it wasn't a life goal or any…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:21 PM
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I think putting as much effort as you can into something that is important to you should be a baseline. While I can be critical of a lot of the very young guys here, I do have sympathy and respect for the ones who really, truly, are doing everything they can. That said, I also think it is important to acknowledge that you really can do everything right and fail. That's just how it is living as a human in society. And being able to accept that, and accept that not everything is a variable you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:03 PM
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I guess technically if it's hard it's not really flexing... I'll see myself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:57 PM
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Not a woman, but I suppose I can answer based on what my partner might consider "high-value". I don't consider myself all that valuable really, but I'm someone she seems to want in her life rather than needs for any reason, really. (I can't honestly think of any reason why she needs me in her life as opposed to anyone else). What "value" do I bring? She'd probably say something like humorous, fun, makes her feel at ease like she can be herself, doesn't need to perform or use social batteries jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:11 PM
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Thank you and I hope your child has no problems from the early birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:34 AM
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I was 28 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:32 PM
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That's one part. Accommodations are frowned upon for many reasons by society-at-large. Much of this attitude is from historical holdovers, but it doesn't make it any less insidious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:27 PM
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It's definitely a not insignificant number. Which is odd considering it's one of the simpler fallacies to understand, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:16 PM
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I hesitate to make a wholesale statement that it has gotten easier or harder. That's a little too broad and a little too easy. I think it got easier for some people but not necessarily for others. That said, the expansion of options thanks to advancements has been nice. While it's possible I would've still met the future missus and found opportunities to split time between the US and Europe without the ease of things like social media, it's much less likely that would've happened, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:27 PM
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Accommodations for the disabled aren't really seen as sheltering them--it's mostly seen as enabling the preconceived notions of their weakness. (I mention this because I am disabled from birth and this is/has been the prevailing public sentiment throughout my life).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:19 PM
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I was eight weeks premature with moderate issues and noticeable lifelong physical disabilities. Aside from getting me into physical therapy as early as possible I don't think my parents obsessed over any of that. Mind you, I was born in the 80s to very conservative bootstrap types, so it makes sense that they didn't bother too much about it. I was either going to learn how to deal with it and make my way in the world or not. It's not that they didn't care at all about it, they knew what they wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:10 PM
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I believe that you know these people, but I reject the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:02 PM
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Sure, people can accidentally make another person feel that way. And there are times in every relationship where one person might disrespect the other even with intent. But your question appears to ask which dynamic we would take if the behaviors (love or respect, in this case) are general, consistent behaviors throughout the relationship. I don't think the dynamic can exist because I don't think a generally loving person will consistently disrespect someone they love, and vice versa for the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:52 PM
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It depends on what you mean by "society". I've been to/lived in societies where it is much more normal to, say, ask someone what they might be making with their ingredients, like in your example. I've also been to/lived in places where it just isn't common to talk to strangers for no reason. I spend part of most years living in central Europe where my partner is from, and I act differently there because the people are much more standoffish or seemingly colder if they are strangers. I smile less,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:56 PM
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For some reason a lot of people here seem to believe they have to tell everyone they're a virgin because they believe the truth will out anyway. Although of course, that makes no sense. At the most, they might be somewhat unskilled for their first time, but there's quite a few possibilities the other person might ascribe that to, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:47 PM
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If she finds it cute, that's a completely different dynamic, even if the man isn't jazzed about it. To disrespect someone requires active intent and, typically, is something done repeatedly after the person expresses how they felt disrespected. That's why the question makes no sense. A person who actively disrespects their partner as a general behavior does not love their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:42 PM
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I heartily agree that they should separate the fantasy and sci-fi categories. They've always been radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:43 PM
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There used to be a dude here who topped even this. He repeatedly said that he'd rather get SAed in prison repeatedly than get cheated on. (And presumably held a lot of fears about partners' pasts as well). Some people here are not well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:24 PM
3

I appreciate that. I had to do a lot of work on myself in my 20s. And it really wasn't anyone's fault. I could say on some level "society" because of how pervasive the implicit messaging of society is through things like ads, media, etc. But we're all still responsible for sifting through that morass to make sure we're getting the right stuff. Harder to do when you're younger, but the potential is still there. I sometimes compare it to getting a little thorn when you're a kid. Like a splinter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:36 PM
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It's never wrong to do our best to help, but yep, when things are deep-rooted, we can't really be the ones to change it. Doesn't mean that our influence won't be influential, but if the roots go deep, it'll take way more in the way of mental rewiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:52 PM
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It's a somewhat different flavor of feeling inadequately endowed or whatever other insecurity. That being, while the reassurance of a partner is nice, and certainly better than the opposite... it still takes one's own mental push to really get through that. There was a time in my life that the reassurances of 1,000 women, both known and strangers, absolutely would not have changed the exceedingly low opinion I had of myself. As nice as support systems are, sometimes the real push just has to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:44 PM
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I think no matter what age we're in, a lot of it is down to parents, like many things are for kids. My parents gave me what I feel, on balance, was a good childhood. It was filled with a lot of social isolation due to their choices in how we were educated and where we lived, and there were some other things that stunted me that I had to sort of teach myself once I moved away. Even allowing for all of that, I would say it was a good, if strict, childhood. That said, when I was a little kid comput…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:03 PM
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The core of the problem is that it forces the single parent into a position of shadowboxing with a spectre they didn't create. Someone comes along and deems them as exactly the same as this complete other person and makes a judgment based on that. So on top of all the usual pressures of dating, the single parent has to either do battle with a ghost living in the other person's mind or somehow convince them the ghost isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:58 PM
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I'm definitely concerned about some of the young kids in my life, and not just with dating and interpersonal dynamics but a lot of stuff. I never used to understand why my parents were glad to be older. But as someone who is now the age they used to be when they said that stuff--I do get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:50 PM
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That's valid honestly. I don't know your story or anything but I can imagine that if you look back and see yourself as fairly lackadaisical toward the subject that you wish you'd gone about it with more intent. I get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:48 PM
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That's a pretty normal range for it to start. I can absolutely get why people in this age bracket, if they haven't gotten action by this point, will wonder if they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:24 PM
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That's true but I've seen enough kids' parents to seriously question whether they are in fact adopted, if you get what I mean (I'll have to add the /s here because of this place being this place)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:22 PM
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The sports one was always one I had a funny relationship with, myself. I grew up rural and isolated due to parental choices. Spent quite a bit of time outside because that's how a lot of rural life is, but the disability held me back from actually engaging in organized sports really. That said, when I grew up I developed an admiration for the work it takes to be really good at sports even though I wasn't able to participate. Nowadays I follow a lot of (mostly combat-related) sports out of genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:28 PM
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10 seems very young to already have that sort of finality going through your head, and I say that as someone who was pretty myoptic about the topic in my early teens. At 10 I wasn't really thinking about the whole dating and marriage thing at all outside of occasional fairytale stuff. But I know people are different. I don't know you of course, and I do say on here often enough that you can do everything right and still lose the game. Some people do believe there is someone for everyone. I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:25 PM
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That's why although I'm somewhat concerned, I know how dramatic teens can be and I know there's tons of room to grow up and, hopefully, be less dramatic. This does sort of remind me how many dramatic adults there are, too, but that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:22 PM
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One of the most concerning parts of all this, to me, is the fact that we've got self-admitted teens out here already adopting the "it's over; I give up" mindset. I can only hope it's something that is part of just being a teen these days and that they grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:55 PM

Are you saying the part you quoted is bad, though? I'm a guy and I can see myself saying exactly this kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:37 PM
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So when a woman I don't consider to be wife material tells me "Real men should be like this and that" I don't even listen to her because, I don't give a fuck what kind of man she wants. This right here is a good example of what I mean, in a way. I think so many people today are obsessed with the opinions of strangers. Sometimes they'll say "we're social animals hardwired to care." This is true to an extent. But, it's not so true that we should be so inordinately concerned with strangers. What yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:15 PM
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This example is somewhat intriguing to me. I see what you're saying. I grew up in what would be a small town to most people. But if someone had started a rumor about me like that, no one would have believed it. (someone did actually start a similarly damaging rumor about me, but it was a different subject). And had I been in a large city, the traction of said rumor would have been low. But I feel a bit like you're talking about two different things. Or rather, applying the same thing to two diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:31 PM
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Then you should factor in the tip (unless you live somewhere that doesn't, but based on your post, you live somewhere that does). I also don't go out often. But when I do, I factor in a generous tip. I'm not wealthy, but I am able to do this because I usually don't go, thus saving up the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:23 PM
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I can sort of see your point, but this appears to make the case that basically "all men are at once equally fragile/resilient" as one another'-Schrödinger's masculinity or some such. Do correct me if I've misinterpreted you, though. My only contention being that I definitely see stark differences in confidently masculine vs. insecure when I view other men. To be clear, I don't judge them for this necessarily except whatever values I might make in my head as we all do, but I don't think every per…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:03 PM
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But there's tons of countries that do well and either don't expect tipping outright or consider a very low percentage tip to be a grand gesture. My own partner is from one such country. It's a place that doesn't have what I call "tip creep" that is slowly seeping into multiple industries where it wasn't a thing before, nor do any people in the service industries have expectations of a tip. They make good wages and are pleasantly surprised at any tip. Note that the above is also separate from pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:45 PM
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Meekness as a trait does tend to be something that isn't particularly attractive. As a quiet fellow myself, there is value in what I might describe as "a bit of coy shyness in small doses". But that's a different thing from "meek" as a defining trait. To be clear, I'm not judging the character of meek people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:28 PM
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It's the emojis that really sell this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:20 PM

I think statistically we're mostly dealing with people who are a combination of emotionally stunted and actual people who are barely adults. That leaves not a lot left for the normal adult category which kinda explains a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:08 PM
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I know this probably wasn't meant to be funny but you got me here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:58 PM
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Not who you asked, but yes, absolutely they should limit to whom they compare themselves. I for example admire the skills of many martial artists and stunt performers. Footwork is one of the most important things one can master if one wants to be the best at either of these things. My personal abilities with things like balance and speed are hampered in ways that no amount of training will overcome, so it would be detrimental for me to look at those people and compare myself. (I do still do this…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:45 PM
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I don't really go in for oppression olympics for various reasons. I do think a lot of younger people in the dating market today are more interested in complaining or not wanting to work at it, however. That said... I also think that someone can do everything right and still lose. A relationship is built on two people, and you can only control yourself. There could very well be circumstances that just mean that some people are alone despite effort. I say all of this as a disabled guy who has had …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:15 PM
1

That's when you get to bust out your caring side.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:56 PM
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I was also a fan of the low-key active dates even as someone with some mobility issues, ha. You're both engaged in an activity that can be fun, spark conversation, possibly even leading to more talks about values and shared interests, and nothing stops you from doing the same sort of chatting you'd do sitting there with coffee as well. We both very much enjoy a good cafe these days too, and we're now this odd mix of being comfortable at home but also very much still enjoying travel and seeing ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:30 PM

Why wouldn't they just also be genuinely agreeing with the phrase, as you do? Unless you mean that to genuinely agree with the phrase means you wouldn't respond at all. Which is valid, but anything posted on a forum is an invitation to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:15 PM
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A dick-size megathread you say? I think that alone would lead to some insecurities. Dick-size average thread might be safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:51 PM
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I think you mean girthy chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:57 PM
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I am almost begging my fellow presumably straight dudes to stop broadcasting how often they think about dicks, at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:48 PM
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This is an excellent gif choice in general and brings back muh childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:24 AM
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This has nothing to do with anything but it does remind me of a character in a TV episode who had this problem (scare-rousing) and he wasn't sure what to do because if a bunch of dudes stepped to him wanting to fight he'd be scared but also... y'know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:22 PM
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Problem is a lot of these younger people, sub-20ish at least and possibly even older than that--I'm starting to wonder if they ever got that kind of instruction or if they just ignored it. Random TikTok whatevers come up here shockingly often as points of discussion. That wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for how often those things are a. extrapolated and b. taken as genuine rather than a grift. I was talking with the missus about some of this stuff just the other day... the kids who aren't teenag…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:44 PM
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I would not. I was raised in a pretty strict environment and almost all of the chores were rotated between the kids once we were all old enough to do them. My parents both did do some household cleaning but they were mostly busy with work and farm labor and such so once we were old enough we did most of those kinds of chores. After we all moved out they of course upgraded to get things like a dishwasher and stuff we didn't have when we were kids because they could just use us for that, ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:43 PM
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One of the main things I wish more guys could realize. Don't bother with anyone not interested in you, and don't spend time trying to force that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:45 PM
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That seems to be exactly what happens here specifically most of the time when "average" is mentioned, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:49 PM
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I think both parties in a let's say one-nighter situation should probably have low expectations, personally. Two people meeting randomly for a what is probably a one-off, who don't know about each other's likes and dislikes can only expect so much. But as I dude I can acknowledge that, generally, it is going to be easier for me to finish with less preamble than it will be for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:20 PM
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My thoughts exactly. "Well I sent about a 100 messages and you replied so I chose to sleep with you but how dare you take advantage of me like this! I'm way above your league! I should've received several replies from women several points hotter than you! You're such a slut for sleeping with me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:07 PM
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There's something to be said for shared cultural norms here, possibly. I spend part of each year in Central Europe where my wife is from, and I'm friends with a fair few dudes who also clean up there whereas they (probably) would not where I am from. And I think a big part of that is shared culture, language, geography, and in general women just being used to/attracted to those guys having just been around them all their lives. I'm not saying that IS the reason either for those guys or your frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:53 PM
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Ah okay. Well I guess even I will wonder about it, but it would have to be an extreme case. And even then, we don't always know the battles someone else is fighting. Or choosing not to fight. There's probably reasons someone is alone, but sometimes the reason is, "just never met anyone who made the mutual spark." I say on here sometimes that you can do everything right and still lose, and that's true. But there are a minority of people who really are happy just left to their own devices forever,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:52 PM
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Well on the face of it I would say if not being in a relationship makes someone undateable that is a bit silly as an argument... everyone starts somewhere and at some point has their first relationship. I've seen "if they haven't had any relationships by X age", but I guess that one is a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:47 PM
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I'm not sure if this is precisely the sort of thing you are looking for, but I was friends with a guy who, at least at the time, was probably one of those guys. He has since been in relationships, though. But at the time, I was the person in our wider friend circle who was known for being good to talk to, so I got a lot of his angst as he came to me with it. Almost nightly (I worked in a library at nights and during down time he would message me on whatever thing was popular back then. It was pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:33 PM
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I'm a dude, but women who have been interested in me have not acted coldly, personally. Generally quite warm (beyond what I would expect from an acquiantance), talkative and nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:02 PM
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Hey man, I just wanted to say you seem to consistenly post extremely insightful stuff. You've been through a lot and probably 100x more than you ever say on here and it's clear that, as hard as all that is, you've really analyzed it a lot. I don't know what else to say just that, these sorts of comments don't go unnoticed and I hope that as hard as things might be that you're doing relatively okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:13 PM
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I would not. I'm disabled and the fetishizing of that can get ugly super fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:05 PM
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Older pre-internet people being chronically online is honestly rather fascinting to me. I have family in their 70s who are like this. It's harder to grasp because they were adults when the internet took off and, mostly, had little use for it. But I suppose get older and possibly more isolated as they aged contributed to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:50 PM
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I feel similarly except I might add that of course I also cared about the opinions of the person in whom I was interested, but that's probably implicit for everyone. I've said it before but I think we're in an age where people care an inordinate amount about the opinions of strangers, often to their detriment. We always have but... not to this degree. It's why some people get so worked up about one person's opinion on a random video these days, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:33 PM
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Yeah, I've heard the excuse that guys are "imagining they are the dude" before. As a man I've had zero desire to see another naked dude perform sex acts. If you think a woman who watches f/f porn is indicative of her attraction to women, you must implicitly believe that men who watches other naked men are at the very least bi. That is the only way the argument makes sense. Why are you on a quest to find straight women "on the internet"? I don't get how this is so difficult. Almost everyone I tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:21 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily look at adult content preferences as anything indicative of sexaulity per se. If that were the case all men who watch content involving a man and the woman have bi tendencies since they will definitely be looking at closeup shots of another dude's junk, listening to him grunt, and waiting for that money shot. Experimentation is perhaps a little more telling, unless she only does it once and decides it is definitely not for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:17 PM
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Yep; pretty much how I see it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:21 PM
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A lot of people here seem to think it's about options. No, it's about the quality of those options. It's better to have 2 good options than 100 mediocre ones. I think this is a big part of some of the disconnect that happens here, and it relates to this feeling people keep bringing up about not getting attention/feeling invisible as some dudes here seem to. I think some of them would prefer to have attention from women to the same or similar degree that some women have attention (wanted or not) …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:48 PM
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I perhaps wasn't clear. You're asserting that it is kind of hard to find apparently straight women as evidenced by some of the replies in this thread. My response was that for the most part, we tend to acknowledge that this place in particular (and reddit in general) doesn't really attract what you'd call the average person. I think in my various friend and acquaintance circles I know three homosexual women. The rest are happily dating, married to, or otherwise sexing various dudes on the regula…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:48 PM
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Most people here aren't what you'd call the average person, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:50 PM
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It's not really an either or. Many people just lack proper emotional regulation and emotional fortitude in general. It's a big part of why so many people only stick to in-groups that confirm their own biases or feelings, etc. In other words, emotional resilience is in short supply. Against my better judgment I watched the clip and it's a pretty bizarre and dumb example of emotional resilience or lack thereof. Also clearly staged, but it could have at least been staged more intelligently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:13 PM
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This seems to track. I've had a few experiences where "wanting to hang out" or "work together on projects" was definitely also an approach. I actually missed at least one of these in my school days and only recognized it for what it was in hindsight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:15 PM
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I don't know about a lot, but at least a fair few here specifically very much wish it. I think they mostly mean they would like whatever they define as the perks, but sometimes I wonder if they'd really go all in. I'm talking the ones who claim to wish they could "start over" as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:09 PM
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As someone who has to use a cane daily and has tried to make sure I have a few that can coordinate, I felt this deeply. I pretty much do it for myself because I figured I'm the only one who would ever care, but it's nice that maybe someone does notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:47 AM
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I can get how it would recur or try to worm its way back into your head--that does make sense. That said, now you have some proof that even the kind of relationship you couldn't imagine is at least possible. I know for me that helped a lot back in my younger, less confident days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:17 PM
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I spend about half the year most years in CE for the past 15 years or so; it's certainly a different experience mostly for the better. Sadly the auto industry in the US obliterated the idea of walkable cities by the time my parents were kids (along with some relatively poor planning of city expansion as the cities grew bigger). If you saw maps of my hometown you'd wonder if they got any city planning involved at all in that. There's more car traffic in the missus' hometown and surrounding areas …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:15 PM
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I also want to thank you for that. Very interesting perspective. I would've assumed you might have come from a somewhat sex-negative background but that obviously isn't the case. My own upbringing was very sex-negative and it was pretty much the same for the whole area I grew up in, so it's nice to see that it is not always a component of these sorts of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:25 PM
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For sure. I've seen it a few times and yeah the roleplay aspect fades fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:11 PM
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Man that's a roller-coaster of a tale and I just wanted to say that although I won't be able to respond to it in as meaningful a way as you've written it, I've read it and am thinking about it. You're final paragraph there is highly intriguing to me though and definitely something I need to have a think about. I wasn't unaware of coming together from shared out-group bias, but I hadn't previously considered it to be the stronger force. I think you may be on to something, though. When I'm in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:04 PM
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I've not heard the term before but I grew up in a community that had some people like this. Most managed to find partners that agreed with them strongly and put religion at the forefront, but some didn't. The sad thing about the latter group is that a lot of the cracks started forming early, pre-wedding, and many of them still did it even so. The rifts only seemed to get wider as time went on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:52 PM
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This matches with a lot of my own experiences and acquaintances growing up. It's not even so much the extreme views per se, it is a combination of that coupled with the political views they hold being absolutely central to their core identities. These are the people who seem to struggle the most. And it's usually not the people who, say, are very passionate about one or two big societal issues. It's people who, for various reasons, have made the party an extension of their own identities. This a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:12 PM
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I think regional differences do create more of a distinction here. Where my partner is from in Central Europe, it's much more common to see both parties at, say, what looks like a healthy weight (even into middle age), although I would say there tends to be a wide looks disparity between the men and women quite a bit. Stuff is not as much overpoliticized there as it is in the States either since there is a much wider sliding scale of what accounts for what we might define as "left" or "right" th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:07 PM
0

I'd say I have a below-average face and I have a physical disability that subtracts an extra few points as well. I will say that I practiced doing a metric ton of socialization after moving away for uni because I was raised very undersocialized. That helped me to look at doing social activities more neutrally, even if they wouldn't otherwise have been my first choice. So, this may have helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:13 PM
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I think it is a combo of different things. I'd hesitate to use the term "lazy" specifically, but there certainly seem to be recurring themes here of some wishing it were far easier than they feel it is. I'm not currently a teen or early-20-something navigating that space right now at that age, so my experience is probably different but I found dating/looking for a partner/meeting people to be, generally, quite enjoyable. Of course the rejection part sucks. But I never found it to be exhaustingly…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:28 PM
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That sounds great man. Just wanted to say glad you're living your best life--or even if not best, a life with which you are content. It's a fine goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:05 PM
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Yeesh, that's awful. I'm sorry they wanted to crap on you like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:40 PM
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Is it a stigma, or are you just meeting people and in most cases they are just that way? I think in the last couple of days there's been more than one thread from the same guy who wishes he could find way more numerous dominant women but he isn't. I'm not discounting that there is some stigma, but maybe most of the people you're meeting just aren't the way you'd like them to be. All that said I'm sorry that people jump on you for being you and assume you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 07:53 PM
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I think this is true too; it's often a more specific situation asking for more specific advice or dissecting a specific event or interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:18 PM
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I don't think you're going to see as great a preponderance of this sort of thing online. If you go and seek it out in more niche spaces, you'll certainly find it. But in that case you are likely dealing with women who both a. feel as ignored/invisible in the dating world as some men do and b. care about finding a way to solve this feeling as much as said men do. I am not sure if I have any women friends who meet both of those criteria. But, these are just my guesses as to why you may not be seei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:14 PM
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Abashed or downright indignant. It's great that the internet made it seem like everyone's opinion is important. But it also kinda sucks for the same reason. I think we're so accustomed, especially online, to being able to say anything that some of us forgot the contract they sign implicitly when they do post on public places like this. To contrast it, sometimes my friends vent to me. And it's all good. I offer a sounding board and it is, if they want it, a way for them to get some light construc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:37 PM
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There's nothing wrong with holding out for what you want. I did, and I think more men could use more than a few standards, frankly. And, if you meet someone who already naturally meets or wants to meet those criteria, there you go. That's what people do. Places like this, though, have this extremely weird hangup about "being judged". It's weird because when you say stuff to people, you implicitly invite responses. People I know are sometimes like this. They'll say something or post something and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:32 PM
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People need to internalize this hard. There is absolutely no need to say every single thing in one's head to people one is not dating or trying to live with. And even in the latter case.... baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:25 PM
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Dang you mastered it?! That's some dedication right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:07 PM
0

It's probably not an example I would use either, but to be honest I suppose I'm somewhat conflicted on the whole issue (while, admittedly, it is academic for me as I am simply a straight man). Since I'm a straight man, I wouldn't date a bi man anyway, so it is hard for me to "get" why that, specifically, all else being equal, is a dealbreaker, I admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:23 PM
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You're not wrong but dating is an inherently discriminatory practice. We all do it to one degree or another. People think that "discrimination" is wholly negative simply because of how it is usually used, but in a dating or finding a partner context we can't not be discriminatory, and sometimes that will involve immutable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:48 PM
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You are most likely wasting your effort. The people who peddle this don't know anything about her experiment, life, battles with mental illness or how long after the experiment she died. Even if they know the last part, they have made up a story in their heads that she sat around thinking "egads men have it so very rough" for 16 years and then eventually ending it all over it. They absolutely, desperately, need this to be true, even though her "experiment" was more failure than success and gives…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:37 PM
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It's a little light on the details of how the female magic system works, but it is a compelling start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:08 AM
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It would be like me constantly being envious of everyone who isn't disabled or something. Some aspects of this definitely cause me some grief, but I've got to be getting on with living life and getting things done, too. Can't just sit here being mad at people who got a better deal. And heck, I'm glad they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:05 AM
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I still think this is silly, but to address one point on that TikTok arbitrary divorce business whatever: People so easily swayed by other people are too flighty to make good relationship partners. And the same goes for men willing to be "slaves" to women in their social circles. (In this case I'm taking you at your word that this was the inciting incident to the divorce, although that seems dubious) You can only be "practically a slave" to people you cede control to. I consider that incredibly …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:47 AM
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Yeah it seems like that tracks. I think it might have been here that someone once said that a lot of these dudes will instantly chill once they get to second base, and it is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:04 AM
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It does feel kinda like a weird psy-op when you really think about the kind of content they showed especially when you think about target age demographics. To your last point, before I was a teen my parents moved us to a town with mostly older folks. It wasn't the most exciting for a kid, but as I grew up there I got to see older people married decades who genuinely liked each other and knew a lot about each other. Contrasted with some couples who clearly were not that and were together for othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:09 PM
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Part of the issue with what people call the "friendzone" is really that, in many cases, what it ends up being is a "girlfriend zone." (Or a boyfriend zone, I suppose). A person starts out liking someone but, for whatever reason or various reasons, takes a really long time to work up to what it is they are actually after. During that time, they often build up a fantasy in their heads about how life could be with the other person. Then, when they eventually do make a move, if it is a rejection, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:52 PM
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And random women would just sort of appear there in the wildest scenarios for pretty much no reason, remember? Like it didn't matter what the topic was at all they would find a way to put some women in there for the audiences to gawk at and such. It's all such a fever dream when you think about it with an adult brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:42 PM
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The edits you;re making serve to make the post a bit more confusing. Your post seems to only be asking "why would you agree or disagree with the statement in the title?" But your edits suggest you're also looking for actionable advice to, in your words "pick up beautiful women" as a self-professed not beautiful guy. These are different things. Are you looking for both or just a debate about the statement of fish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:36 PM
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Yeah kinda. That said a lot of that certainly is... an experience. Even with the internet as crazy as it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:31 PM
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It happened a metric ton like 20 years ago. You can probably find old videos on YouTube. I think they made at least one show about it. Back then we had basically "man channels" that tried really hard to appeal to edgy teens and just go all-in on "this is a man channel with man things" and at least one of the shows was on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:59 PM
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u/anewlookav among others answered it quite well but you seem not to have accepted that. There's nothing wrong with asking fishermen about how they fish. (provided they are actually successful fishermen. I would, for example, not bother asking most of the fishermen here because most of them are young and have either never fished or don't know how to fish even when they try to fish. Obviously there are exceptions here).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:35 PM
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A couple in a town near me went viral for deciding that because they didn't like whatever service they got at some restaurant they would cuss out the waitress and throw money on the ground instead of handing it to her; all of this with some impressionable little kid learning from the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:22 PM
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Given your flair I'm quite sure nothing will change your mind about yourself but I doubt you're truly ugly. Even the places I've lived where, very generally, the average couples on the street had what I would call fairly extreme looks imbalances, the one on the lower tier wasn't ugly and clearly had something going for them. Ugly is pretty memorable and few people are ugly. Average, possibly invisible, but ugly is rare, at least to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:19 PM
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It does seem like an "achievement unlocked" sort of moment for lots of people, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:14 PM
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A small part of the dumb kid I used to be still wishes this, sometimes. (I'm still dumb but I also used to be dumb too)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:07 PM
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There's so many recurring themes here that seem to include not seeing sex as mutually enjoyable act, I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:23 AM
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If you have to ask the question, it's already clear that they don't offer you specifically anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:21 AM
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I don't have any particular personal metric for "too much" or "too little" in any given frame of time, but the example you provided does seem extreme. I would think even most guys who get very little attention would probably be slightly weirded out or suspicious if someone they met once on the other side of the world wanted to fly out to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:38 AM
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My great-grandfather believed this hardcore about wrestling but the twist is that he for sure continued to believe it even after people kept trying to show him it was fake. He would not hear of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:47 PM
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It's like how an average-looking dude from the UK could probably get plenty of American women who are fascinated by the accent. A subplot of Love, Actually in fact, ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:31 PM
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While I'm not going to comment on whether the two people in this clip have any sort of real mutual interest, I think this is a very important consideration. Not only the gender norms, but in some cases extreme social pressure to date within one's culture. And even if dating is fine, many parents would not be at all thrilled if there was talk of marriage. Sometimes it works--one of my friends is happily married to a very nice Japanese woman and they appear to have parental approval and seem happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:17 PM
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Similarly, other experiences can bind people - growing up in a major city, vs. growing up in a small town. Frequent international or domestic vacations, or the experience of drinking Colt 45s down by docks with the crew as a 15 year old. The experience of competitively playing a sport through high school, or even college. The experience of being exposed to certain kinds of music or art. Parents enrolling them in programs outside of school for socialization. I think so, too. I grew up rural and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:14 PM
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I won't immediately jump to therapy or pretend that I have a grand solution for you, but the bit earlier about being incapable of feeling joy specifically due to wondering if something good might end badly is not really normal. Something good potentially not ending up good is really just... normal life. People start to learn it really early.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:43 PM
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I think a big part of that is related in part to the relative youth/inexperience of most of the dudes here coupled with an attempt at moralizing preferences. By which I mean, it could be seen as more "wholesome" that they don't care about job/career/ambition and just "like her for her" (setting aside that no one dates anyone who doesn't provide something in return) Even in my family full of what we might describe as "very traditional men" all of the spouses had jobs, and the men cared very much …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:48 PM
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I think u/AssPlay69420 makes a good point that it will probably take the edge off--mostly for those who are convinced that there really is no other way to take that edge off. Thank you, AssPlay69420.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:57 AM
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Oh man. I was a kid before ADA but have spent most of my life with it. I made a point to learn about as much of the before times as I could, although it's hard to take in large doses. And thank you much for the wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:36 AM
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Thank you; much appreciated. I feel like a lot of disability is just a continuous learning experience and one of those struggles you just have to keep trying to "win" every day. Or at least, I feel like I have to. Some days you win, some days are bad days and you lose, and you just gotta do it again the next day. I hope your mum is doing well. As I'm getting a bit older now (starting to enter late 30s) I'm concerned how things will look/be the more I age. That aspect didn't really concern me as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:05 AM
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You know, I was set to disagree because I felt the title was too vague and too broad. That said, the body of your post does go into much deeper detail. I'm a physically disabled guy who frequents a lot of disabled spaces trying in my small ways to help out younger disabled people looking to navigate the abled world. And I think you're right--it is ablist, but since interpersonal relationships rely on satisfying each person's preferences such as we might, things get trickier. I'll try to stick to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:44 PM
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Sadly very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:52 PM
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#1 is definitely some kind of abormal line of thinking at the very least. I mean even if you just look above, part of the premise becomes "continually having to convince her to stay" to the partner in the relationship. I can agree that each person in the relationship needs to "hold up their end" very broadly, but I can't say I've ever been in any intimate relationship where I had to "continually convince her to stay." I don't even know what that would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:11 PM
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The closest I can come to really understanding it from your perspective is as a disabled man. I have gait, balance, walking and speed issues that put me at significant disadvantages compared to the average man (and, in many ways, the average woman as well quite frankly). The strength thing isn't as much of an issue, but bad balance can often negate raw strength in a highly dangerous situation. All of which is to say, I do my best to understand it, and I have some factors that can help me be awar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:31 PM

That's probably the kind of dude who believes sex happens to women and they get sexed while he is the giver of sex, rather than it being a mutually enjoyable activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:43 PM

I don't think she's being dishonest. Just here alone is a place absolutely full of dudes who say they "can't afford to have standards/pick who I like" whatever. And that's just this place. One of the refrains I repeat often as a guy with what I consider relatively high standards is for my fellow dudes to also respect themselves more and get better standards. But so many guys punch themselves in the peen that they just... don't. None of this standards talk is meant as any reflection on u/Squirmin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:42 PM

I think by "extended empathy" she means something that goes further than what she put in her OP at the top: the acknowledgement that she sees men have a harder time dating (which is something a lot of dudes here want women to say I guess). That would be like, the default empathy for a mass of strangers. Or that is how I read it, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:36 PM

I know this wasn't meant to be funny, but you got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:09 PM
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All humans are vain to some extent; it's just part of human nature. Wanting to look good for your partner isn't entirely divorced from your own sense of personal pride in your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:51 AM
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There's a difference between vanity and basic self-respect, though. If we follow this logic then it's also a form of vanity to put effort into your appearance for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:46 AM
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As someone who grew up in the former, this is true too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:39 AM
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Very rarely am I thinking strangers are attractive. Personally, I think this is normal and the way it's supposed to be among strangers. I think it's also why there is sometimes this disconnect between this and guys who worry about being "invisible." In general, it's normal to find most strangers or people you interact with minimally as invisible, I think. (For purposes of creating a deeper relationship, of course, not as human beings).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:26 AM
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I have relatively high standards as a guy and I'm aware of that, but even so 90% seems excessively high to me in terms of how many people around me I'd find attractive. I only mention that becauser you say it seems typical to you and I'm wondering if most other dudes here would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:20 AM
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Yeah there's no insult there, dude. Regardless, whatever it was that caused you to have such a reaction to my original comment isn't really my problem to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:06 AM
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People tend to wonder why a person might be a virgin past a certain age. There are "milestones" your average person hits within a certain frame of time. There are many reasons why someone might not do that, and some of those may have nothing to do with them and everything to do with circumstances. But regardless, people are still going to wonder about it. It may not even be a turn-off, but people will wonder why a person past a certain age has had zero sexual (and usually also relationship) acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:04 AM

This doesn't seem like it's relevant to the sub at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:08 PM
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Yeah honestly I get why some people downvote but frankly I never do it, even if I disagree with the person. I guess I just feel like if it's worth rebutting I'll just reply and rebutt it, otherwise I'll move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:32 PM
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Healthy self-image is sometimes harder for some to come by than others. It would be nice if we could both all feel confident and society (general people you meet, not potential partners with whom you'd like to be intimate, since appearances are part of the attraction) talked less about how people look. But, it is what it is, not what we'd like it to be. Some physical things are more obvious or considered more detrimental than others. I've got a whole host of that myself due to disability since b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:48 PM
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It sort of depends on specific examples in order to really define consistency I suppose, at least in its literal definition. There's also different forms of what people like to refer to as "canceling" (frankly an overused term, IMHO, but we gotta go with it since it's part of the jargon). Job loss vs. people deciding they don't like what you say and deciding to vote with their wallets, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:41 PM
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The funniest part about her boss is that it's actually a toss-up if he'll hold his meetings in-person in the conference room. Half the time he flies in, sets up in the conference room... and video chats with the people who are now in the same building he's in because he came to the branch office that day. So he just does the same thing he could've done without getting up early and going through airport security.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:48 PM
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The missus and I have a sneaking suspicion that her boss may be this guy... He's constantly flying in for meetings that can absolutely be vid calls and just chilling in the conference room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:03 PM
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I guess it's not completely unfounded (I"m not quite in the older folks category but I did see the birth of online chat and the early predecessors of today's internet forums). It's just that most of your average folks don't really have enough clout to even cancel. I've seen some cases of apparent job loss, but the person in question has to say some really out of pocket stuff for that. I think we live in an age where getting "reported" is more prevalent, but we also live in an age where most peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:00 PM
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First of all I'm sorry for the loss and I hope you're doing well these days. Secondly awesome Marcel Marceau reference. I got some pushback there asking for "as much as what" (though I was somewhat tongue-in-cheek) but you get it. It's a question with several possible answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:56 AM
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I'm so native I even know that it's "that hard to understand" and it's a capital "E" homie. I was also being somewhat tongue-in-cheek. He wrote it in a way I found humorous. That said, without the qualifier there are many possible answers one could insert there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:53 AM
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It's the "don't talk as much" for me, lol. Not even sure as much as what exactly. Well I guess the post has since been edited but it used to just say "don't talk as much"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:23 PM
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Creepy and with an extremely odd take on sexuality... hoo boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:51 PM
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Why, indeed, but I think somehow we're in an age where some people care far, far more about the opinions of strangers than ever before. It's odd to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:45 PM
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It certainly seems that way sometimes. The one thing that I think might be different is that maybe the generation after me really does have a tough time with dating. I'm on the fence about that because I see a lot of teens or early 20-somethings around and work with some. Of course, we're not besties or anything so I don't know every facet of their lives. But they appear to be doing at the very least, fine in the relationships and friends departments. Obviously my experiences are a tiny, tiny sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:58 PM
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Use your hivemind powers! Tap into the hivemind!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:40 PM
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As a dude, same. Sure, I've talked with my friends (men and women, frankly) about dating and interpersonal relationship dynamics. But I've never sat around with friends of either sex talking about what we are looking for in a partner. Doesn't seem much point to that unless you're talking to a potential partner, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:36 PM
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My mom does that too, but so does my dad. It's based on what the news tells them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:29 PM
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Don't forget the transgender mice!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:26 PM
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In a way, I can see how a the mangled corpse of evo psych could appeal to a certain segment. It offers a version of "science" that one can "study" to unlock the secrets of the universe. Unfortunately, humans are just part of the natural order; we don't behave the way other things do in nature--up to a point, anyway. I too would see a return to common sense, but I don't know how to get there en masse. I just read about a bizarre (tragic) murder case last year that involved a bunch of witchy stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:47 PM
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I kept seeing this law around and was like "well, I probably don't want to look that up given the context"... so much appreciation for providing it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:54 PM
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I think anyone who wants a partner and is noticing a complete lack of interest may need to indeed change up their tactics. If you're really not getting any interest, then yeah, it may be on you to be more forward in your approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:29 PM
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Exactly. Different people like different things, but sometimes I think some people here think that the charming, witty person who knows how to light the room or get a laugh was this way right from the cradle. It's something they learned over time. Some people might get there easier or faster than others, but it's still something people work on through exposure to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:44 PM
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No one is born whitty or charming or funny, though. One could say it is harder to learn or develop these things once you're older, but it's still something everyone who is funny, witty, or charming worked on, even if not always overtly or consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:42 PM
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I mean the world is full of inconsiderate people with me-first attitudes, mate. Even if you don't just mean "indifferent" (a natural state when dealing with strangers) but actively trying to be inconsiderate. I assume by "groyper" you mean groping and if so, I'll give you that there are many adults who need to keep their hands to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:22 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but I do my best to call it out when I am aware of it, though this is particular with people I know. If the problem persists then we likely become incompatible as friends. Admittedly I probably put less effort into this than perhaps is necessary, though I don't tend to surround myself with people who openly display what I consider lack of good moral fibre. I tend to focus on maintaining or improving my own standard of character as a flawed person in need of much impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:42 PM
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I remember reading about some kid who made absolute bank selling "used women's underwear" to dudes online. They were neither used nor had ever touched a woman and you're right, I think no one ever knew the difference. (I guess he made sure they didn't smell fresh, but I don't really wanna know how)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:05 PM
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Knowledge is both great and terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:33 PM
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Dang I forgot Spy Kids existed. I don't know if it counts as a controversial opinion these days but at least that first movie is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:03 PM
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The internet is such a weird place. Now I find myself wondering how it's even possible to trap such a thing in a jar--just logistically. I'm probably missing something but I don't want to think too much about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:58 PM
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I like this because it means that you get the kind of person you're looking for--and whoever that is puts in whatever level of authentic effort (or authentic anything else) that you're looking for as far as compatibility goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:23 AM
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Speaking frankly, although there is some nuance, I think if that is really someone's authentic self, they should just own that. If they're happy enough that way, fine. If they see that it has a negative impact on their social relations, they should take steps to improve that if such things matter to them. "If they wanted to, they would" actually does have some merit in some aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:20 AM
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Dang you can afford hella lattes--nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:35 PM
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I think there are several good answers here but what you describe as "intent to get something out of it" being key to the transaction is both crucial and easily understood. That's really the crux of it. "I'll do nice things for someone but I expect them to 1:1 recompense me in kind." The funny thing is that, in a healthy relationship, you don't have to keep that score because two people who care about each other will just do that. True partners know the one will take care of the other, like in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:08 PM
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lol I love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:24 AM
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Your game story reminds me of Dragon Age: Origins, ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:45 PM

Yep. Or at the very least the variation of, "I can't have standards."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:28 PM
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How many women do men give a chance to if they aren't attracted to them?? As a man... pretty much zero. You may actually get some replies from dudes here who say they do. And they may even be telling the truth. But... this is a special place full of very, very special people...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:42 PM
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This is the healthy thing to do, IMHO. I had a couple of short-lived relationships with some very clingy partners, and it just wasn't something that sparked joy or felt more fulfilling than not being in the relationships. I worked on myself a lot growing up due to the rural, isolated living, but part of that living did inspire an outlook of being fine on my own if necessary. More than that, it showed me how important a little bit of tranquil time to oneself is. People who have that might still l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:23 PM
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I thought it might be this after thinking about it a minute, but I'm glad someone asked. Also never heard it put like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:18 PM
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This is probably how my partner would feel. I have some physical issues, but she knows that I wouldn't be able to just not help a person under immediate threat. I think she'd feel good that I did the "good" thing, but I can also say that I'd probably get a stern talking to after, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:25 PM
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Firstly I'm so sorry to hear about that. It sucks not only that it didn't work out but that it failed so spectacularly through once again an easily avoidable case of someone just not being creepy but deciding to be creepy. I'm sorry about that. The literary equivalent to an unsolicited dick pic Is it bad that I think this might be both a brand new sentence and complete gold?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:22 PM
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Very true; I have some notions and I need to be more gracious, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:04 PM
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Hard agree; no reason to have shared this on a first date. Not judging OP but we see this a lot on the sub--people share a lot of stuff very early in the dating process. I don't know if it is more common now than it was 10-15 years ago, but it is odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:17 PM
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Not a woman, but although 26 is a little unusual for no relationships at all, I wouldn't say it's extremely odd. Particularly these days. Different people have different standards of course, but if it's under 30 I wouldn't say it's a giant red flag or anything. Just my take though. I do agree with others that "I don't know" is a bad answer to the question, for reasons stated elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:14 PM
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I'm now just imagining some rage-induced dude shoveling two extra portions into his face even though he's clearly full and doesn't actually want it just so she has to watch him eat it. Man, that's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:08 PM
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"Owe" is a poor term in the context of this entire discussion, frankly. But I'm using it here because OP uses it as a central theme to their argument. Doesn't really apply to relationships as being in a mutually beneficial relationship creates desire without the need for concepts like "owing" or "enforcement."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:01 PM
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In the broader context, I've known a couple of people who claim to believe they don't owe anyone anything. Maybe they even believe it. But they still pay taxes and they still expect services for the taxes they pay and they'll say that if asked. There are (or seem to be) vanishingly few people who both say "no one owes anyone anything" and actually put that into practice by acting like it and assuming both they and any other party owe each other literally nothing. In the context of dating, I've r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:58 PM
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The rules are pretty much defined on a sliding scale, though. I owe a relative stranger with whom I've been on three dates far less than I owe someone with whom I've been for years, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:53 PM
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There's an element of self-interest in every romantic relationship anyone ever has. Ain't nobody but nobody out here deciding "whelp, she ticks absolutely none of my boxes and doesn't even have much of a personality, but she's just so darned good and honest that, screw it, I'm going to give her a chance."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:40 AM
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I sometimes find myself thinking that both ends of the age range, that being the much older generations such as those of my parents and the generation currently doing the dating and hormone thing for the first time now as teens, seem like they are the most resentful of dating dynamics. Though, I suppose the older ones should care less on a personal level as they often are done with dating. All of which is to say, I know you're not a teen, but if you say that younger men are for the most part mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:05 AM
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I would fall short of a few of these but dang, I gotta respect this. These are some pretty good standards right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:34 PM
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Never seen that before so appreciate the respost. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:08 PM

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not irked. A little confused but not irked. I don't think it's foolish; I think a lot of people are just trying to parse it accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:01 PM

Those aren't really "values." That's just stuff one might be more likely to do if they live in an area that changes fashion relatively frequently, has a large number of businesses to try, or is in good with the types of groups who might frequent supper clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:34 AM

What do you mean by "metropolitan" values? What are metropolitan values? And what are you measuring them against? You also contrast "metropolitan" with "oaf" near the end of the post and I don't understand the framing of this. The opposite of metropolitan is oafish?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:01 AM
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I think this is true and speaks to a larger point that on an individual level, most people are invisible to most other people they'll meet in life. Further, I would say that this is entirely normal. Most people are not going to be noticeable to most other people. Some people here really wish the majority of people they came across in life noticed them in an attractive way and as a fellow who is quite invisible to all but a select few, I confess I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:16 AM
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Very much agree on a lot of this. There's a couple of things I try to reiterate from time to time here. One is that there is nothing virtuous or deep about standards or nefarious about differing standards. So many times people try to frame things in dating this way like someone is less noble for not being attracted to them and they are more noble for having wider parameters (if, indeed, they do).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:13 AM
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I knew about arms and shoulders fairly early in life but, I must admit, I was not aware of the hand thing until recently. I'd asked my partner about it and she was able to enlighten me. There are.... galleries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:36 PM
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I don't know about hard requirements, but my hands/arms/shoulders/eyes are the things that have helped me get in the door the most, I think. I'm sure there are women who place greater emphasis on things I don't have, and in such cases I'm not part of the consideration of their dating pool (as it should be). I've got some physical abnormalities that I'm sure remove me from quite a big portion of the dating pool in general. But, then again, I've always been of the opinion that most people on an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:41 PM
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No worries. Not a fan of headaches myself, though I will say burnt chicken is a new one for me (I believe it, it's just a new one for me).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:28 PM
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My reply was meant sarcastically. I do my best to make that obvious without adding that /s thing, but perhaps it is not always obvious. I have little room to complain as a guy with high standards myself, and I don't think anyone really owes anyone any kind of breakdown of why the standards are the standards, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:24 PM
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Probably best to ask women this, but I guess I'll indulge. Conditioned in what sense? There are various forms of conditioning; to which do you refer, and to what extent?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:20 PM
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You're supposed to do some self-reflection, realize that the preferences you have are completely influenced by external factors, then reject those preferences and adopt broader preferences that improve certain people's chances, silly!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:50 PM
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If you mean in general, it's because people, all people, want to believe the best about themselves and we are very good at lying to ourselves. It's for this reason that people moralize certain things, such as "my preferences are less narrow" to try to make it seem like that is somehow a moral success vs. a person who has admittedly more narrow or higher standards. If you mean here, well for at least the basic discussion to start you have to assume what another user says at face value or there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:42 PM

There was no reasonable expectation for you as a child to believe you were like the character in any of these movies, Precisely. Which is why sometimes people get just a little put out with grown adults who do use the "media lied to me as a kid" line. Because this part, right here, is true for everyone, not just kids who are noticeably different. Of course media is created to appeal to people and drive sales. But that is a different point that doesn't lend any credence to children believing thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:01 PM
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That's more higher-concept disability stuff that they really didn't know much about, honestly. I learned all that stuff on my own just through general experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:50 PM
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Kinda the same experiences. I won't pretend I never complained about my mobility issues when I was a kid. It wasn't often, but it wasn't never, either. My dad was relatively sympathetic, but he also made it clear that he expected me to make something of myself the same as any of his other three kids who weren't disabled. While I'm sure I didn't quite make it exactly as he might have liked, it probably turned out better than it would have if he'd just been a doomer about it never encouraging me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:02 AM
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It's funny because I probably turned out quite a bit differently than they would have liked in many ways... but that core stuff of how to be an adult, that was all them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:39 AM
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They're more or less old-school tell it like it is, yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:30 PM
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I was told that too, but really only by my grandmum. And tbf, I believe that she absolutely, 100% believes that. I believe she believes, truly, that I am on par with any highly thought-of celebrity. I just don't believe what she says is really true in this regard and she is heavily biased. I'm sure my siblings are also 10/10s to her. But that's just kind of how typical parents/grandparents are with their kids. If you mean even yet more people told you that quite a lot, I believe it, it's just no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:00 PM
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"scrawny mf from Atlantis" XD To your larger point I have to admit there have been female characters who have sparked something in me precisely because yeah, they seem very cold and like they might be incredibly dismissive of me in real life. I try not to think too deeply about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:02 PM
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I prefer raw and unfiltered honesty, myself. My parents sat me down and in so many words once told me, "now look here son, you're disabled and that sucks. But there aren't two ways about it; you're gonna have to put in a lot of work to find a good relationship, and it might seem like you have to work twice as hard as your friends. That's just how it is." Imagine if they'd told me something different with a lot of sugar and frosting on it. I might have been one of those guys who posts here about …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:43 PM
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Of course it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:33 PM
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This could be regional but I agree with you. My partner and I often joke around when we're living in her country because it's actually the norm to see pairings like this. From the cities to the villages. Nothing against those guys and I assume the women they are with love them and find them good-looking, etc (plus there is something to be said for shared culture, language, and proximity). But yeah, it does happen a lot depending on where you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:32 PM
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I agree, but they either do or did, strongly enough that they felt popular media lied. Seen that specific claim way too much on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:57 PM

Of course, I'll be rooting for both of you! I do understand his concern somewhat. I'm ambulatory but a cane-user and he's probably concerned not so much about just how active you are but not wanting to feel like he's holding you back from being as active as you want to be. I don't know the specifics, but he might be worried that you won't, say, go hiking or something when you otherwise would because of him (not saying he couldn't go hiking too, but I don't know what kind of chair he uses or how …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:50 PM

Dang, now I want to know what I missed that the poster deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:26 PM

I didn't date anyone from a different culture before my current partner, but we've been together 15 years and she's from Central Europe while I am from the US. I met her through a friend of hers from middle school who came to study at my university and then we're now mutual friends with that friend. She did the introduction and then we chatted for about 6 months before meeting in person. I'm not entirely sure as to your question about a success story, but I'm not sure exactly what is making you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:22 PM
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A lot of that is bias in stories told to children, and this sub has is overrepresented in people who felt "lied to" as kids because they believed those themes to reflect reality. In its simplest form, handsome/pretty looks good on the outside and keeps its ugly inside, and ugly/homely might look less good on the outside but conceal a heart of gold."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:00 PM
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Chosen family is always a nice addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:41 PM
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Doesn't mean much but, whew, sorry about dealing with all of that. And that was just your TL;DR.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:36 PM
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I would go into a date expecting to pay. However, if she wanted to split or perhaps even insisted on paying the whole thing herself, either of those options would be a pleasant surprise. That said, my partner has been someone who has often paid half or even all of many date nights. We started trading off one or the other since the very beginning. And we don't keep any kind of tally who has paid for more dates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:14 PM
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Ha well thank you that is much appreciated. Really I'm quite a flawed individual and would consider myself below average. I really appreciate the words though and I hope you have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:11 PM
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I think you've hit the nail on the head with the choosing too quickly among available choices. I totally would have done this as a younger person, I admit. It can be tricky to override that impulse when you find someone who seems interested in you for you. I don't consider myhself short at 5'7", but I'm aware that there are many people who would say that is short. I'm sure it's disqualified me in the past. But I'm also disabled and walk funny, so that was probably a much bigger factor if we're g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:44 PM
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I think that's most likely true, but your framing is careful to show that it is better in pretty much all aspects, so it makes sense that it is the correct choice. The sweet, kind, available, interested (and one assumes attractive to you) women are miles ahead of the aloof, emotionally unavailable, possibly emotionally stunted women you were choosing. A lot of the "choose better" stuff (at least around here) comes down to people wanting others to choose them based on some things being better but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:37 PM
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I don't personally have any issue with "choose better", it is pretty sound advice when framed as "don't go for people who are detrimental, and leave when they start showing repeated signs that they've hidden who they really are." I was more thinking of just how pervasive a lot of the doomer takes are here that want their "goodness" (however they define it) to override their attractiveness or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:29 PM
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This isn't entirely untrue but your premise still starts from the baseline of attraction itself. Whether it is cake or anything else. You ignored something you were "attracted" to for something you were attracted to more. So the attraction part is still necessary. You didn't choose something you were unattracted to rather than attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:03 PM
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It's been quite a day and "I mentor baby lawyers" kind of made it better a little bit; thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:05 PM
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It is pretty funny how they're all basically tied for worst person ever, just in slightly different ways. I am pretty sure Dennis even is the one who sets up the seminar, although I don't recall what his goal was.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:39 PM
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In real life he'd obviously be awful but honestly thinking back to that part of the seminar I can't say it wasn't hilarious. His absolutely sincerity in such an absurd scenario was just gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:10 PM
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The implications thing was the boat episode as you probably know, but you might be thinking of the harrassment seminar the whole gang attended. I think in that episode they do show that Dennis has a text chain from some women who literally write "I CONSENT" because he swiped their phones and sent those messages to himself thinking he was a legal genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:50 PM

It's crazy and there's definitely been industry creep--not everything that is tipped these days was when I was a kid and I'm not super old. just approaching middle age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:47 PM

It's funny because they were hit with inflation a few years back and when I was there you'd hear them talk about it a bit, mostly in the service-based industries. They'd sort of allude to it if patrons (like at a restaurant) asked but even then, a 5% tip went a long way toward helping them out. It took a long time for me not to feel weird about it because even a 25% tip back in the US would sometimes be seen as cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:11 PM

Out of curiosity, did you think you got a good deal price-wise? I use a barber much more rarely in the States than I do when I'm living in my wife's country due to price. I might pay around $5 for the same or better haircut in Europe that I pay at least $25 for in the States. When I started doing it years ago I asked the missus if this was really enough for a good haircut in terms of wages and if I should tip. Yes to the first, no to the second and that he would be weirded out if I tried to tip.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:39 PM
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Yeah in the context in which it is presented in OP, as some sort of plus for the non-app party it just doesn't make any sense. It seems like a regular text chain would provide as much of a paper trail if not more, and people already do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:30 AM
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That and like, why is this taking the place of a normal conversation about it? I understand the app is hypothetical but I don't really get the point. Does the other party have to sign it digitally or something? It's just a weird scenario all round.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:48 AM
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Right? "Please let me confirm with this app that you are not impaired, are of age, and specifically consent to this series of acts in writing. Y'know... because of the implications."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:41 AM
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Not a woman but dudes care/comment on the outfits of women they aren't attracted to all the time man. They just say different things about it than they would if it is a woman they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:31 AM
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I would be immediately suspicious of it and treat it as very much not a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:26 AM
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Just wanted to say that I'm glad you got through that and got to a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:33 PM
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I think my parents were decent role models, but my experience regarding getting good (or really any at all) advice from them about making friends or dating matches yours. At most I got the cliched "just be pleasant of course people will like you" stuff. I will admit that I may have some bias with just how messed up some of the younger kids have it because I really didn't factor in the lockdown stuff from a few years ago. I was chatting with the missus recently and relaying to her that some of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:50 PM
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I was such a person when I was a young lad (not super long ago but I will admit that people under 20 probably have some very different dating experiences compared to mine). This didn't bother me a ton during my teens simply because we lived rural, isolated, and as a physically disabled person I didn't expect to date like the normies, if at all. But that last part here is key, because a lot of it was based on my own view of my own self (which was very low) and I'll tell you right now, there wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:40 PM
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Funnily enough I was the homeschooled rural disabled kid growing up and I gotta say.... even I sometimes marvel at just how absolutely undersocialized some people are round these parts. I was heavily undersocialized due to the above and had to work a long time after moving away--and I can acknowledge there are some aspects of dating that are probably harder today but I'm not that old and it's like, dang.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:21 PM
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Oh it's a super clear flair--kinda funny because you had a different super non-confrontational interaction further upthread I think, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:11 PM
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Based on wording a couple of comments up, it would appear she mistook you for a man despite your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:05 PM
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I mean, yes. Technically we do use "virgin" in that context quite a bit in modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:15 PM
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I think it varies by region (speaking globally) but for the US it might be close to this? I wouldn't say 3% myself, that seems a lil extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:55 PM
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It's not that important, but I think you could argue that while, perhaps, JW wasn't a naturally violent person at some earlier point in his life, he's pretty naturally violent when we meet him. I don't think he's morally grey so much as dark, though. He knows what he is, and by his own admission doesn't think he deserves a typical, happy life. We just see him as grey because we typically see him fighting either people like him or worse than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:42 PM
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If one is dating for an LTR, proving oneself is a core component of the interaction for both men and women. I would suggest not framing it as degrading to do so. That said, even if one decides it is degrading, it is still a core component of why one bothers to go on dates. It does not make sense in any other context to invest in something before you even have some idea of whether that is worth investing in. While I don't (didn't) treat dating like some sort of socioeconomic game or analyze it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:36 PM
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I think you're probably not far off in some cases. I would not be shocked if a significant percentage of the regular posters here were under 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:08 PM
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I would never do any of these things to a strange woman. In very, very, very specific circumstances I might do some much less goofy version of point #1... but only if the reason I was doing it was going to be extremely obvious to the woman. Like if we both had the same niche band shirt on or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:37 PM
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She's pretty cool! When I told her I'd never went on any vacations as a kid I was just trying to tell her about some parts of my life. But not long after that she took me to a resort completely by surprise because she hated the idea that I'd never experienced a "chill vacation." I was totally not angling for that at all and never dreamed I'd ever visit a resort of any kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:36 PM
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Same. Neither myself or my partner are super into the day, but she loves giving gifts, including planning great, meaningful gifts, so she loves the opportunity to do it on a holiday like this. (I also like to get her things, but her planning is next-level compared to mine).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:13 PM

Lol ya got me there; good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:43 PM
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Your stories are great. I'm not currently dating around but when I was a lot of this applied. I doubt I was "the guy from the start" nearly as often as you are, but like you I had to recognize when I was off and how my performance affected the outing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:36 PM

I'm not going that far either but given this specific quote... there's only so charitable my benefit of the doubt can be. When my nephews on my wife's side were growing up they would sometimes run around naked in the woods on a hot summer day getting muddy or whatever, but that was only in the woods in the summer around family who basically wanted a way to clean them off with the hose easily and with them both being too young to even feel self-conscious about nakedness. That's what I think of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:11 PM

And apparently about 5 other things along with that, reading a bit between the lines... Sometimes a very small part of me wants to meet some of the people here irl for just a minute. Like, just to see lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:04 PM
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Your reaction is similar to my partner. If I'm sad about something and she can trace it back to a specific person she wants to challenge them to single combat... it's a bit endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:17 PM
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I think your point illustrates the key difference between sadness and bitterness. The former is understandable since almost everyone has been there. The latter is a defense that seeks both to find blame and then to apply it to some external factor. In truth, in some cases there just isn't any blame to go around. Interpersonal relationships that rely on two people meshing mean that sometimes you just might not find people who mesh with you, unfortunately. That's just how it is. And in such cases,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:22 PM
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I don't think it's special, but what is "special" to the human condition is almost entirely dependent upon perception. Which is to say, it is, apparently, special to the people who feel it is special. Very few things in life (if anything, really) are special outside of perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:10 PM

Do we actually know that his head isn't in a jar somewhere a la Futurama, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:36 PM
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Whether it's "normal" is likely highly dependent on place/culture. I don't really see it outside of some Asian cultures. And there are some that seem to make bank on dramatizations or stories with precisely these themes. (And others where such things would not only not make money but be shunned). That's just my take on it as someone who sees its prevalence in some cultures despite not really looking for it and its almost entire absence in other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:21 AM
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I dunno if I agree with all of these but even if not, dang it do I like your style.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:55 AM
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From what I understand from my friends and scant family from/living there, you're pretty much spot-on with them just not being as visible if it's harder to get around, yeah. There's nuance there of course, but a lot of the older folks prefer to keep out of the way if they feel like they'd need help. Funny contrast to when I was in Italy for a time--so many older folks out and about with canes, walkers, scooters and the like, doing their errands. Seemed like nothing would stop the old aunties fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:56 PM
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It's a very interesting place to me, in a lot of ways. I'd be hesitant to live there as a disabled person who would physically stick out (not to mention also being non-native) and given cultural attitudes around disability there, but overall I really do like a lot of aspects of the culture. (and, to be fair, they also develop a lot of interesting infrastructure for certain conditions such as visual impairment, etc). One of my aunts was from Okinawa and I always wished I could've learned more Jap…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:19 PM
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This is true of many Asian cultures, but they value extreme social conformity as well. Up to and including various niceties and very much not saying what they mean (except in specific contexts such as your boss telling you how much of a failure you are). The appearance of being correct matters far more than being correct itself, to put it mildly. Disability/being different is heavily criticized (though it is somewhat better than it used to be and is culture-dependent).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:33 PM
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It's neither inherently masculine nor is it even a "trait." It's a condition, one which may manifest various characteristics, idiosyncraties, and perhaps traits in people affected by the condition. Putting that aside, heavy media bias is responsible for a lot of people's preconceived notions about things related to disorders or disabilities. That's not the whole issue, but it is a massive part of the issue. And the ways in which media typically portrays autism is a sort of "all-or-nothing" scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:06 PM
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There are a lot of stupid people out there, Painfully true. I was trading stories with an acquaintance recently, and she was telling me how often at her job (support role) people would call her for help with the dumbest, most obvious things you can imagine. The real kicker there though was that this usually happened because people simply either could not or did not take the time to read very clear instructions sent to their email using bolded or red lettering to make it stand out. Then they'd cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:15 PM
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I gotta chime in just to say I like your flair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:53 AM
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I don't think it's made up and, unfortunately, you can see there are quite a few dudes here who think it's an unfair standard. It's whack. And I say that as a guy who's had quite a few periods where getting a half-decent wage was tough.... But I didn't expect anyone to want to seriously relationship me during those times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:09 PM
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I've never quite heard it put like this and admire your poetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:01 PM
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Agree with this. My parents moved around various rural, LCL places my whole childhood. The rural lifestyle taught me a lot and I have appreciation for it, but when I moved to a place with actual infrastructure it was a game-changer (and it wasn't even really a HCL area, just a somewhat more expensive area because it had at least the minimum infrastructure).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:03 PM

Nah. I'm already disabled which ups the "ugly" factor in the minds of most people whether I'd like it to or not. And I had to learn confidence and some version of charm for the same reason. I'm certainly below average, but I wouldn't want to handicap myself even further (a lil disabled humor there for ya) for a bit of extra charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:38 PM
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I'm gonna check this out thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:55 PM
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I love tea; what are some of your favorite teas?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:52 PM
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Part of this is actually a backhanded insult aimed at both parties--it's just that the guys who think like this don't even realize it. They attribute better character to the 5'7" guy because in their minds, he cannot afford to be like the 6'2" guy and therefore will value whatever woman gets with him more than the taller guy. The unspoken part of this is that the 5'7" guy would like to be seen just like the 6'2" guy and would act the same way if he could. (That's also nonsense, but this is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:17 PM

Please update on bread when you have a result, and good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:17 PM

Yeah this is a good point. My missus is from Central Europe and it's very easy to travel at least once per year if not a few times per year given her vacation days and the ease with which one can travel between countries on the continent. She also really loves staying at home too--she's just interested in exploring new places or cultures in which she is interested, so she is a healthy mix of A and B. But you're right that I think that is somewhat less common in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:15 PM
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Limerance even as a concept has been oddly and somewhat embarrassingly fascinating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:25 AM

Some people really took yesterday's (admittedly bizarre) needs-based posting and absolutely decided to run a marathon with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:54 PM
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I know I'm late to this but if you're (possibly) referring to the recent book about peasant life my wife read that at book club and told me about it. Some sobering stories in there for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:29 AM
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Dang there's so much going on in this one; I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:35 PM
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Congrats on that. I can't say to what extent your ASD affects you, but getting a diagnosis is something we talk about a lot in disabled communities when it comes to various conditions. Getting the formal diagnosis answers a lot of things for people who spent years wondering what was wrong and how to deal with it. I hope your diagnosis helps you similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:54 AM
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You're right. What people call "beating round the bush" often is pleasantries, and part of civilized society is understanding these pleasantries. I would also say that point 3 appears to create a dichotomy between intro/extro people by essentially saying a more introverted person will somehow value honesty more than a less introverted person, which is just silly on the face of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:50 PM
0

"Harmless but weird" honestly I love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:44 PM
1

A good neck is nice! That said I wonder what it is which separates the average neck from the exceptional neck. As a self-professed obsessive of it, what are the markers for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:43 PM
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I've had a couple of people who I thought were quite intensely interested in me and, upon further study, turned out they were but a lot of that interest rested on my being disabled and they were attracted to various aspects of that. Kept them at a distance after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:50 AM
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Very fascinating, honestly. The hand thing I get (though to be fair I didn't know hands could be that much of a thing till a couple of years ago) but I never knew this about the midriff. Truly intriguing. Dang people are fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:46 AM
1

Thankfully we now appear to have a hookup if we ever need tips!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:33 PM
3

Honestly I also have to say I think AssPlay has a good take here. Thank you, AssPlay.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:23 PM
2

You know, I didn't notice this the last couple of years but now will be paying attention as the day approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:06 PM

I dunno.. I personally never felt lesser to women. I felt lesser to my abled peers, which included both men and women. But that's a slightly different kind of inferiority that comes from observing how you might be literally less capable (and thus less valuable) than your "average" person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:10 PM

Most of the farms my parents put us on were similar to this with a slight edge toward more working farm than hobby farm. Simply because farming wasn't my father's paying job and because we usually had multiple herds of animals to care for at once. Even with this somewhat reduced sort of farm, I think we went on perhaps three vacations totaling a weekend each when I was growing up. My partner was quite sad about this when I happened to mention it. (It affected her so greatly it resulted in a surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:07 PM

You made me laugh and it's been a pretty Mondayish Monday,I needed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:25 PM

Dude that umbrella idea sounds dope as heck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:06 PM

Oh you might be able to convince them, but I think it's a question of it being worth the effort. I think not, in most cases. Better to just keep enjoying your own stuff with someone happy to enjoy it with you--that's the ticket. I think there's something to be said for perhaps not waiting for a partner who exactly aligns on every interest at precisely the same level, but I think that is rare and most people of both sexes, if they do have this expectation, change it as they mature. The ones who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:54 PM

Exactly. I don't really remember where I came across it because I don't really follow many people but somehow a few years back I found a few videos of a couple basically roughing it and doing a lot of living/raising kids in the woods/off the land (minus at least some kind of internet since they were posting of course). A lot of people in the comments talking up the woman as she was one of the natural beauties who liked being outside and doing grunt work and not wearing makeup. Quite a few men in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:34 PM

My dude I grew up around farms and tons of my female peers wanted and sought out that life and now live it. Some of them didn't and traded that in for a different lifestyle, just like some women who grew up urban might switch to farm life... but tons of people still grow up that way and perpetuate it. The women who want the farm are not the same women who want to travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:09 PM
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As tragic as her depression was, the Vincent stuff is getting so tiresome at this point. I feel like a lot of it is coming from young people who just discovered her since her death and read a two-line blurb about her and ran with it. She was dealing with a lot of mental stuff all at once and even if her offing almost 20 years after the fact were due to her experiment--one in which she often failed to pass as a man anyway--it would prove nothing other than that her illness was extremely pronounce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:47 AM
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As a dude who has also been right there this is so on point man, and really clearly stated, thanks for that. I've often said other dudes need more standards, but this really articulates just why that is so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:40 PM
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That part about it putting a bad taste in your mouth with all the whinging on this relatively recent phenomenon--that's it for me too. I don't think I ever really thought of it precisely like that and thus never really got why I was seeing so many of my peers as fundamentally weak. But this is a big part of it, right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:36 PM
1

Tis a lemon-ginger mix!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:35 AM
2

Only if it's something she knows I wouldn't enjoy/like/need which would show a lack of thought or investment. And I wouldn't really be upset at the gift so much as that it would signal a change because she's quite thoughtful. Today for example I got a clothes drying rack and some tea, and I felt both were thoughtful gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:39 AM
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I think you've explained this dichotomy very well, just wanted to say much appreciated. It's how I feel I am--at least more or less-in my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:03 PM
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I don't think the act itself is a huge ask, particularly if one is in an intimate relationship. I'm talking mostly here about the frequency. This sort of thing can be exacerbated if one person is more open to sharing than the other. This was something I had to learn early in my relationship because my partner comes from a far less open culture and in addition has a much less open family. It took a really long time for me to get her to understand that not only can she open up to me, but I would l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:35 PM
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She may be saying that being the sole source can be very draining for the partner. This is actually pretty understandable. There was a time in my partner's life where she was that main source for me and two of her best friends. You could argue that having to be that for me and the friends was too much, but she is a very giving person who wants to be there for people so eventually, dealing with all three people's problems on the regular was just massively exhausting for her. Much of that has been…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:17 PM
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I think I mentioned recently somewhere else that we seem to be in a place where people are going after validation from strangers more and more. Not only going after it, but feeling like it is vital that they get it, leading to disappointment that is bigger than it should be when they fail to get it. I'm by no means unaffected by validation even from strangers, but I think it helps that, while I saw the birth of early internet forums and such, I wasn't born straight into the digital age like many…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:49 PM
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Also moved around a lot and was quite isolated as a kid--gotta say this is a sound take. When I wanted to hone the social skills I knew I was missing out on due to non-traditional schooling, I found and went to tons of events just with the goal of being more social and working on those skills. Making friends ultimately too, but without putting pressure on myself to make those friends. Ultimately helped with more intimate relations, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:50 PM

I don't think there's much left to add to the stuff already provided, but I'll write a short comment here under automod as I don't have a flair. A lot of your comments highlight the fact that deep down you see yourself as a lesser human being. Lots of people get into that line of thinking for many reasons. The trap is that once you think of yourself this way for a long time, it gets in so deep that it can be very hard to escape that even when you achieve whatever goal you set for yourself. In th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:59 PM
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I for one have some mistakes I'm still trying to learn from and improve on. Hoping you're in a better place now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:44 AM
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My favorite part is how you put several of those there and it was still a /whoosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:22 PM
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NGL I will miss your old flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:32 AM
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I could, at most, envision a short cooling off period where the person takes some time to do the crying or whatever other emotional stuff they have to work through when that initial feeling is strong right after the expression of disinterest. Then they'd find that balance and go back to being friends with the person who just wants friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:12 PM
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If life is more fulfilling for you that way, that's really what matters man. Enjoying your own company is important in or out of a relationship. There's people here who claim to be suicidal if they're not in some kind of exclusive relationship--dunno what that is like but it's probably a rough mental state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:37 PM
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Your skepticism is understandable. My partner is from Central Europe and has been to the US often enough to realize the stark contrast. Her home city is becoming more congested by vehicles as they are seen as a status symbol of sorts, but even there walking is much more prevalent than it is in most American cities. Of course a lot of this was by design many decades ago to increase reliance on cars, but even in places where you need them much less, yeah you'll still see people choosing to not wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:14 PM
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You've listed a ton of differences between rural or impoverished areas and their counterparts but nothing about, specifically, how the marriages in the former areas function better as a result of the impoverishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 04:01 AM
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I hate to say it but it's a real thing and you aren't far off. One of the families my family was acqauinted with when I was a kid, the mum brayed like a goat whenever she laughed. It's not her fault or anything but, like you said, imagine if this was daily because it's your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:15 AM
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I didn't quite think of it that way but you're right when you say it's like Who Wants To Be. I only sort of grew up in the social media era because it was just becoming a thing when I was an older teen, so I have to think that the generation after me who really did grow up with it probably view it differently and have a different relationship to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:39 PM
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I'll have to try that different browser idea; many thanks! I read quite a bit but I'm definitely distracted by a lot today whereas as a kid it was one of my main hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:21 PM
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As much as I like that my algorithm can and does show me a lot of the stuff I finally trained it to, it is also somewhat insidious. I click on one thing that is somewhat adjacent to my interests but turns out to be not like that at all and suddenly I now get a lot of similar stuff and have to retrain my algorithm. I'm into a lot of martial art and combat sport stuff and some traps are made to look like that stuff and reel you in. Save up the extra money and retire early to do something you love …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:01 AM
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Left out and in a weird way, sometimes misplaced feelings of being let in (which we are to some degree as some people encourage, implicitly or explicitly, feelings of a parasocial relationship) that are not really there. There's people, not really influencers, whom I admire sometimes for their stances or deeds, but in truth I know very little about them. And I think the old saying about meeting your heroes rings true in so many cases. How many times have we been burned by someone who fostered co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:46 AM
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I used to catch myself putting too much emphasis on my friends' lives and just how easy a bunch of stuff was for them (comparatively) growing up as pretty much the only disabled kid around. As I got older, though, I realized that I might sometimes wish I could change things for myself to make that part of my life easier, but that doesn't mean that I can't also be happy that my friends do have an easier time of it. You can wish you had an easier time at X thing without being bitter toward the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:09 PM
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It was once likened to a "girlfriend zone" where the guy puts a particular woman in the role of girlfriend in his head when she didn't ask for that. I think about that sometimes and it really puts the whole dynamic into perspective where it is easy to see just how self-imposed it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:58 PM
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There are some guys like this, but wouldn't most guys just be enjoying those activities with whichever friends happen to also enjoy them? They may end up being guys much of the time, but what I'm getting at is that I don't think it's so prevalent that so many guys need a space to be specifically "with bros" as opposed to just "with buds." I often like to see skilled people doing what they do best, and sometimes that happens to be men, but if I'm into something and like seeing people perform at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:10 AM
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It's been a few years since I saw that and it wasn't even brand new then for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:34 AM
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I gotta agree with you on the last point. Almost everything good I've seen in the last few years has been small indie studios or stuff produced in places other than Hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:15 AM
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I saw most of it and remember quite enjoying it (also has one of my favorite actors Stephen Lang show up later as a witch hunter). If you like this sort of premise do check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:13 AM
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I mean I very much enjoy action movies, but I don't take them seriously whether the protagonist is a man or a woman. In most of my favorite action movies the male hero would be dead about 15 minutes in if it was in any way realistic. Even the ones which I would defend as "more realistic" movies are still unrealistic because a realistic action movie would be short and boring. But to the rest of your point, it seems like you're not talking about witches really, because you're asking for depictions…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:11 AM
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The young boys of today have the same access to all of that media and can get the same messaging from it. Look if you wanna go create some modern witchy stuff to warn young boys about the women, go for it. Heck I'd probably check it out to see if it's any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:08 AM
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There's also Salem from a few years ago. They were sometimes sort of sympathetic to some of the witch characters, but often not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:05 AM
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There's a trend of young people claiming they can do some weird switcheroo and literally displace themselves into fictional fantasy settings. You don't have to take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:03 AM
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Some of the depictions paint them better, sure. There are tons of depictions produced regularly where they aren't, though. Sirens as well, and they're almost universally depicted as bad for obvious reasons. You're probably thinking of the more obvious stuff like Mayfair or A Discovery of Witches and stuff that is somewhat more mainstream. Fantasy creators write evil female characters all the time. Thriller creators as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:00 AM
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There are books, films, and other media about witches and other such things released yearly. Not every single one is an in-your-face blockbuster, but such things never went anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:39 AM
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Sounds similar to me. I think out of all the friendships I've had over the years I was interested in the possibility of pursuing maybe two of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 07:26 PM
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Were they into you, maybe? I've had only one or two cases where looking back I think a woman was into me and I was oblivious, but they didn't end the friendship over it. I'd say I also have more female than male friends and none of them cared that I never expressed any interest in them. I presume this is because they were not into me either and would not care that I didn't see them in a romantic light.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:58 PM
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Are these women you rejected, or women who were just bewildered that a straight man never made am move? They were so bewildered they decided to end the friendship over this? You're predominantly friends with women more so than men and continue to lose female friends over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:44 PM
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It’s a universal and timeless truism. Can’t remember if it was Shakespeare or a contemporary who wrote “Quickly! Go and see what she’s doing, and tell her she mustn’t”. Okay I somehow hadn't heard this one and I love it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:08 AM
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I think he's saying they want the opposite of that if their "SMV" is low. Inverse relationship. Which I guess technically means the more attractive women have much lower standards and it should be easy for average guys to approach and date them. Or even below-average guys. I guess we can close this place down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:01 PM
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Heck ya man Bob Ross reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:52 PM
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You see that quite a bit on here where it all eventually comes back to things like "birth rates" or economic problems as a way to moralize the personal. I've had that conversation a few times. Someone even tried to convince me that because national leaders might be worried about the workforce that this was a valid concern for individual, lonely people. It was and still is my contention that not a single person (here, at least) who brings up things like "birth rates" is actually, selflessly conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:09 PM
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I found the last part to be particularly intriguing as well. As if the prevailing thoughts in the heads of the enslaved women would be, "dearie me why oh why didn't me and my besties settle for a decent man? If only we'd done that we wouldn't be sitting here in chains!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:05 PM
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You would think. But we might be dealing with very inexperienced people here. And I only say that because the alternative is that every single partner they've had just barely tolerated a sexual encounter. I'd think even the "lowest-tier" guy could have one mutually-gratifying encounter, surely. Speaking of sex toys, about 10 years ago or so there was a British miniseries about a small group of women selling sex toys in some quaint hamlet in a time where such a thing was scandalous. I think it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:17 AM
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Well to read one of the comments above, at least some of the dudes think sex is simply not enjoyable for women ever--just tolerable at best. I'm starting to think that, perhaps, that's a bizarrely prevalent mindset here, at least among a lot of the dudes. So I think they don't see it as depriving simply because they think it doesn't exist. Which probably gives us a bit of insight into their relationship history.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:05 AM
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Yeah I'm not sure why one would think that a SAHP doesn't have increased opportunities. You can even just call the hookup to meet you at the house while everyone is away, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:23 PM
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Yes, I think this last part is key. It's really cool to see other people having fun. I literally can't dance but I will join friends at the clubs sometimes who do like to get on the dance floor. Or ice skating even. I'll chill and enjoy the vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:23 PM
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I think that still kinda works. Sure, you're not motivated to play softball or bowling by themselves, but you're motivated to be social and enjoy the company of cool people who enjoy your company too. Just so happens some of the ways to do that aren't your favorite, but the company makes it worth it. I dig it. I do this sometimes with karaoke. I'm terrible at karaoke and dread singing it but I sometimes go to be around cool people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:12 PM
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I kinda hate myself for liking how spot-on this is. I can remember times way back that I think on now and I'm like, "why did I randomly throw that into that conversation one time." Not Funko specifically but the sentiment is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:52 PM
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Whoa; very cool. It's nice the app is intuitive like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:05 PM
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The internet when I was growing up was nothing like today, and yes it was a pretty restrictive environment. Today there are of course fewer excuses, unless the young person is also growing up in a heavily restricted environment. Although even then I'd argue access is much harder to control than when I was a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:04 PM
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That's awesome. My missus has an irregular cycle so we can only kind of guess at when it might be and sometimes it's off by a few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:02 PM
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I don't disagree but, alas, depending on your age and school curriculum, it actually can be absymal. Even the so-called "basic" classes. It might be better now than when I was a kid (though in fairness I had a nonstandard education that was particularly iffy on bio and such). I had to take the initiative to fill in a lot of gaps once I got older--and sadly not just with biology. I like to think I'm well-versed in this stuff now, but it's only because I did a lot of the heavy lifting where the sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:42 PM
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You're too kind, really; I don't even know what to say except thank you. I don't have the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:03 AM
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That means a lot; thank you. I try not to place much stock here, even including my own words, but I'm glad if someone finds them in some way helpful or memorable. It's nice to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:52 AM
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Heck, all I can really do as a guy, myself. I suppose I can also offer advice from a guy perspective, but it'll only help some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:19 AM
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I want to say this might stem from having a very restrictive childhood, but I don't know if that's the case. I had that and I don't have expectations of absolutely needing to lead anyone. I do wonder what might be at the root of it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:10 PM
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I guess it doesn't matter much but if you don't comment they'll just close the thread for OP abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:58 PM
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As someone who enjoys games--there is no real success in video games. The feeling of "success" is hollow, particularly when measured against a person literally ignoring their family to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:48 PM

Mmm I do like some good cheese. Cheese was a bit of a sticking point with the missus early in our relationship because she's used to "good cheese" and had seen so much processed not-exactly-cheese that I had to assure that no, we do have some good actual cheese here too I promise!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:35 PM

It's originally Polish but has most likely been translated into more than just English. 365 is actually worse in some ways because the female character is actually kidnapped by the male lead who is a criminal. She eventually falls for him regardless. But even 50 didn't quite push the premise that far. Tbf though it's mostly just an author self-insert, as some of these books tend to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:32 PM

What kind of snacks? I'm always down for new snack options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:24 PM

That seems mostly to be the case. My unconventional childhood sort of helped bridge that gap as we played a lot of the games our sister wanted to play (house, general store, playing with dolls) but since we all lived on a farm she also did a lot of the more outdoorsy "boy" type of games as well. Not including farm work of course which we all had to do whether we felt like it or not. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:00 PM

I have to agree here in particular with regard to--at least in general--how we might project our own sexual preferences. My partner and I very rarely agree on which men are handsome (frankly this is good for me because the ones I choose don't look anything like me) and for the most part many of the stars you mentioned are "blocks of wood" to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:17 PM

It can be a bit of a struggle, right? My wife comes from a culture that is more closed off than mine, generally. And in her family in particular there was even more of that. I don't mean she was cold when we met, but rather that it took a really long time to get her to open up and be comfortable expressing opinions, even about things like my clothes. In my case I didn't get the sense that she didn't care, but that she somehow felt like she just couldn't be honest. For fear of what, I am not sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:06 PM
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In general I say good for you on your standards, man. I wish more fellow dudes had standards and stuck to them. I think somewhere else in this thread someone else was talking about how on balance men are more terrified of being alone and going for whatever in order to avoid that. It seems like there is truth to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:09 AM
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I'm not precisely like that but I do get it. Many of the times when I've decided to retire old garments and get replacements are when trips to visit the wife's folks in the old country are coming up, etc. I guess it just feels like a good reason to refresh the wardrobe. I try to make sure I'm ready to donate/recycle at least as many old pieces as new ones that come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:12 AM
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The shirt thing happened but my entire comment was completely tongue-in-cheek. I figured this was obvious. I didn't care about the shirt and it was not some grand sacrifice to no longer wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:08 AM
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I actually kind of enjoy it (but I shop mostly online except when I need a fitted garment) but I don't buy many new clothes. The missus has helped me dress better in some ways but she already liked my style when we met so I didn't have to do much except update it occasionally. The only part where we rub occasionally is that I would wear something that may have (very small) hole or two around the house and she would prefer I did not. I wouldn't wear it out of course, but I figure it is fine for j…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:06 AM
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That would certainly get stale. In fact I don't think I could eat donuts for dinner. I do wonder if maybe had things gone on longer if maybe that could have changed? My sister to this day is quite a picky eater, but she cooks a wide variety of things because she doesn't want her kids to be picky eaters or not have variety, for example. No kids in your scenario of course but there could be a similar compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:59 AM
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I can certainly understand why you might be doubting if you wanna keep trying this when that was your first one after a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:56 AM
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Tbf to my missus she was for some reason extremely worried about even bringing it up. She was stressed so I thought something serious was going on but it turns out that she just wanted to ask me to retire one of my shirts. Maybe she thought it would sound too controlling, I am not sure. In about 15 years it is so far the only time she's ever apparently felt so strongly about a garment that she felt she had to say something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:54 AM
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I would say she does most of the cooking about 70% of the time. By the time we met in our early 20s we were both so used to this kind of stuff that it wasn't much of a bother to cook for one extra person, etc. If she had a strong preference for a particular dish she'd cook it rather than expecting me to know how to cook it (if it is the case that I don't).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:47 AM
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My missus sometimes insists on what to have for dinner. One time she asked me to no longer wear a particular shirt. I still think about it sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:35 AM
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I wouldn't care, but she's not much into it. She prefers other sources of eroticism. We also quite often work apart/in different countries for long stretches so I think we both just understand that we each might need some kind of release from time to time. Though, we could help each other with that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:33 AM
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Twelve is a lot on a micro scale when just thinking about one's own position, particularly given how short all of yours were. But, it's still an incredibly small number of people to date. Which is to say, it's not that many relationships, but I'm of similar age and had my experiences been similar, it is possible I wouldn't bother much with dating <shrug> The men in my family tend to be pretty big shot-callers, but I won't necessarily try to weight that against how men in general might be in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:28 AM
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I can't speak to the hypothetical guy in the example. But I can sort of use myself as a kid who was extremely isolated K-12. My parents moved us from one super rural place to another and we were homeschooled, so we didn't have the built-in socialization systems most kids do. We did see friends, but this was probably on average once per month from ages 12-17. Sometimes less than that, so I won't say I started at absolute zero until I moved away for university, but it was close. Being pretty much …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:56 AM
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I started to think more about things like this when I ran into people who had a problem with the common phrase "we're pregnant." A few people I've met really didn't like it (I'm not even sure how the subject came up in most cases) just based on the fact that it's just the woman carrying. I think that might be a little extreme for what is probably just a harmless, common phrase, but I also try to get it from their perspective. More broadly, I think many people don't get this aspect that you can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:59 AM
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I'm very sorry to hear you've had to experience that. Many people in my family passed when I was a teen still learning about death. My great-grandparents outlived all but one of their children, and I always wondered how it affected them... it was never a subject I felt comfortable asking about. That makes sense to me, how you could view it as an ongoing label. To be clear just in case it isn't, regardless of my feelings on this, I would never tell anyone who lost a kid that they aren't technical…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:47 AM

The knowing what to say part just comes with more and more practice and socialization. I'm not saying it's a magic fix that will solve things quickly--it does take concentrated effort. I was heavily undersocialized as rural kid homeschooled in the middle of nowhere with only siblings for classmates. After I moved away for further education I just went to every single event on or near campus to work on social skills hardcore. I won't claim I'm exactly the life of the party, but I see a clear diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:51 AM

Don't sweat the whole academic thing too much. I say that as someone with admiration for academia in general. I know several Ph.D holders. They will be the first to tell you (usually) that they can be quite... special in the way their brains approach things. I have a degree, but I don't consider myself very smart. I might be even below the mean when it comes to intelligence; it really wouldn't surprise me. Asking questions is how we learn things. I've asked tons of "silly" questions in my life a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:42 AM
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It was also several years after she did the "experiment" before she offed herself. People frequently make tenuous links between her persistent mental health issues, her short-lived experiment, and her eventual suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:35 AM
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Both situations suck, but I think that one sucks even more. You're really just minding your business not even knowing a person and they decide you're meant to be together. This was similar to my first stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:02 PM
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It's the same as any other title or position you used to hold but no longer hold. My first job was a radio station DJ. I am not still in that job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:54 PM
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Sure, we say she is a mother who is mourning for what she lost. Part of what she lost though, is motherhood. Do former parents refer to themselves as current parents in any setting? I'm not sure about that. They have some experience based on a past role they played, and that counts for something, but they're still not parents by definition. They've had experience as a mother, and they've been a mother, but they aren't still a mother. Or father, if we're talking about dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:51 PM
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I've been stalked by a couple of women. As noted by another poster below, the statistical data shows both kinds can be equally as prone to violent reactions.... My bias as a man, albeit a physically disabled man, being stalked by women does mean that anecdotally I probably didn't feel as disturbed or worried as the reverse situation. Despite the whole disabled thing upping my chances of violent assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:48 PM
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None of my business so you can tell me to shove it, but I'm just curious if he tried to get to know you or was this a case of complete stranger imprinting feelings on you and obsessing from afar?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:46 PM
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This seems self-evident, no? A person who had children but does not is no longer a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:40 PM
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I didn't say they were objectively happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:22 PM
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That on balance women are happier alone than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:54 PM
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I don't think it is objective truth, but I do think a lot of low-esteem men, particularly here, have convinced themselves of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:30 PM
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Not necessarily. But it goes back to the "women can be happier alone than men can be" trope, to which there seems to be some truth. The man cares at least somewhat less in general whether the relationship is good because any relationship is better than no relationship. And with that comes the perception of ease relative to no relationship. I don't think it's necessarily a good mindset, at all, but this is the way it is for many, many dudes. They say it all the time, explicitly and implicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:22 PM
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I hate myself for it, but I can't deny that Mons Pubis has a somewhat humorous ring to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:16 AM
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Don't forget his good lady wife! And his mother! Some people would try to turn it into something crude, but Laszlo knows his worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:51 AM
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Now I wonder if there is a movement against Laszlo Cravensworth's vulva topiary garden.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:34 AM
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So you're starting to get it, whew. For a minute there I was worried. Does the asexual person have a strong innate desire to achieve this outcome? How many of them have you met who have expressed said desire? If they do not wish to achieve the goal, its lack of capacity is not a disabling condition. There's about 1,000 things you can do that I can't, because disabled. It is very, very different from literally not experiencing sexual drive. They don't care about it. It's a nonissue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:30 AM
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So your argument is that the hormones, receptors, and neurotransmitters which need to function in order to experience attraction are something other than physical? No. I am arguing that lack of the sex drive is not disabling. By definition, it cannot lower the QoL of the asexual person in any way unless they are somehow distressed by this lack. In which case it still doesn't necessarily meet the criteria of "disabled." By your logic people who can't get laid are disabled--you realize that right?…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:23 AM
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Their sexuality doesn't physically preclude them from engaging in this dimension. They are by no means disabled. I know it's fashionable to claim everyone is everything these days, but good grief. I'm disabled in a way that physically bars me from accessing the world the way ableds do. People with mental disabilities have gigantic disadvantages that hugely affect their QoL relative to their abled counterparts. Now, if a person had no sex drive and was incredibly distressed about that, it would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:12 AM
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Aw, that's awesome. My older brother is black so I think my parents just decided, "well, one kid definitely looks adopted anyway, might as well tell all of them."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:14 PM

I'm a dude but, yes, I've met (and been with) people like this. The problem is that you sound like you're on the extreme edge of introversion, based on what I'm reading in your comments. People have serious misconceptions about introversion and basically call anything that doesn't like partying or "being social" introversion. That isn't what it is, as I am sure you know. Introversion is just recharging the battery by yourself. That's it. As someone who has always been introverted, I still love t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:55 PM
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That's wild! Yet another reason I think it was a good idea my parents told us we were adopted early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:45 PM
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I remember reading that the actual percentage of genetic diversity we need in the population is much shockingly smaller than I'd assumed. I don't recall the exact number off the top, but quite low. I don't know if that was accurate, but I found it intriguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:32 PM
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That's already how I date but even if it wasn't, no. The people who can get/want casual can have that, and the people who prefer what you call more intentional dating can have that, too. The real problem is that most people who want this, want it because they think it means they will get to be less competitive with better results. They aren't competitive in the dating market now, so they're thinking a grand shift in dating dynamics will make things easier. We're all human, and it is somewhat nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:24 PM
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I completely forgot she was in that, but yeah she looked good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 04:08 PM
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Probably because a lot of the older users here remember when she was basically "the" hot girl. Sure, it's been a while, but again, many of us are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:55 PM
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I don't think it is so much that secular marriages are a modern invention (depending on how one defines modern) so much that it is a religious institution that, at some point, came with added secular benefits thanks to gov't endorsement of marriage as an institution. Just my take on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:39 AM

Dang that is rough--that last part. I'm not sure how I'd handle that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:38 PM

I see more dudes from there in media but whew, his wife has an extremely cute face there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:51 PM

Well now I wish I didn't want to see M. Night's take on this but I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:18 PM
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Sure, but the term is pretty specific. I won't even say no woman in history has ever had the complex. Billions of them exist and have existed, so maybe some did. But the entire motivation and internal struggle would have to have the woman pedestalizing the dude and feeling that seeing him sexually in any way somehow tarnished his noble, innate goodness and purity. Women don't tend to pedestalize dudes like that. Even women obsessed with the "bad guys" don't do it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:25 PM
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That's not what the Madonna-whore complex is, though. I'm responding specifically about the other poster's use of this term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:43 PM
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That's a one-sided complex though. I've never heard of women having Madonna-whore dichotomy when it comes to how they feel about dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:20 PM
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Yeah I don't like that either.... You're almost likely to get on there anyway even if you don't plan to film the public proposal yourself, I'd say. So many people with phones. I was at a resort a few years ago and the guy at the adjacent table did a proposal. I don't think they filmed it, but I still wouldn't be shocked if someone filmed it once they saw what was going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:05 PM
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I think you're both kind of right. My missus would not care if it was a ring pop. But I would definitely care. I think the healthiest approach is, "she may not care what kind of ring or proprosal it is, but she deserves effort that shows what I think of her."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:55 PM
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In terms of spectacle, I think public proposals of any kind are a bad idea unless you are absolutely certain beyond any shadow of a doubt that the answer is yes--no ambiguity at all. Any other percentage sets one up for huge failure. And I say that not as any kind of criticism of the people involved--I think public proposals generally are in poor taste. And, in some cases, are public precisely because there is an added element of pressure to say or secure the "yes."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:37 PM
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Not who you're asking but, yes, I think some people do end up spending their lives alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:43 PM
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I think some people assume that an asexual person also has no romantic attraction at all because we tend to link the two so closely. Of course, that's not really the case, but it probably explains why it's not uncommon that people assume this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:41 PM
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I've had better experiences IRL, fortunately, but some of this does bleed over into that as it becomes more pervasive. When I was a kid I never wanted to grow up thinking about the younger gens the way my parents did. It seems to be happening anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:21 PM
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On some level I get the frustration at rejection of the cold approach, but I think a lot of it comes from just not experiencing that kind of attention on a daily basis. I obviously can't say for certain, but I think if tomorrow most men suddenly started getting that kind of approach regularly, it would wear thin after a while. Could be wrong on that, though. I just have to say it is admirable how much you and your parents fostered so many children who sometimes needed some extra help. I know it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:58 PM
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Sometimes I struggle with this notion as I also believe everyone should keep their standards, but I think perhaps these two things actually do work in concert more than in opposition. Have standards for what you find attractive as a man or woman, but also be realistic in your approach. Some other thread comment chain mentioned average guys going after model-looking celebs. It's obviously unrealistic to go for actual celebrities as the odds of them wanting to date, let alone LTR someone outside t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:14 PM
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There are a couple of people here who seem to have interesting personalities or goals. But, I confess that I don't remember most usernames here half the time, and I often forget much of what I post here by the next day unless it was a fairly long conversation. All of which is to say... almost certainly not, with one or two possible exceptions were I single. I also wouldn't date sight unseen. And I know that might sound harsh, but I believe all men and women want to date people to whom they are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:54 PM
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I'm younger but less attractive than the missus... I'm not sure where we would fall on the scale of time here. Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:08 AM
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Sorry to hear about that man. I of course can't say anything for certain, but depending on the underlying causes, foot drop can improve significantly or in some cases go away entirely. We get some people with foot drop over on the disability sub. I'm hoping they can treat your cause. I get some syatic nerve pain for a few days every few months myself, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:25 PM
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For sure--if you accept the possibility it is different from a scenario you never agreed to. I would be a poor parent, so this also might be an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:23 PM
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You're not wrong but as a disabled guy, disability can be a big deal. Obviously for the disabled person, but so too for people around them. The big parts of it can affect many other small things in life, and I think most people don't really know how they'd handle a disabled partner. Most people never have to think about that--which is great for them. It is sad that people leave over that, but it can also change the whole landscape of a life and future together, and some people do stay of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:41 PM
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My parents adopted all of their children and chose to tell us early in life what adoption is and some of the reasons why it happens (though I learned later in life that they had considered just not telling us at all, and I'm glad they decided that it is better to talk about it). So I suppose you could say I'm a bit biased when it comes to adoption. All that said, I don't know if I'd have a particularly strong reaction. In this scenario, she had a life before she met me and made a life decision b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:17 PM

I know; not the word I was referring to. Unless this is a continuation of the joke in which case, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:35 PM

I know this is probably a typo, but I also support her dumbing this insecure twerp.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:25 PM
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Honestly it's such a weird rabbit hole to go down; and I say that as someone who enjoys various Korean exports including some of the music. The celeb culture is such another level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:56 PM
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For me that is basic, but I can see how it might not be for some other guys. I also mostly agree with that last bit about thinking that the upper tier is the average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:07 PM
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Bitterness was an example; the motivation is irrelevant to the people who aren't bothered. And someone fully avoiding someone else is not bothering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 02:10 AM
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I don't think anyone is really owed benefit of doubt here. But I think it isn't relevant even to the person whom one might doubt. To put it another way, when I say it's fine because they aren't treating them one way or another, I'm using the relatively high bar that they are pretty much avoiding any and all interactions with the subgroup. Obviously, for something like women, this is hard to do, just like the inverse would be hard to do. But if we assume the person who is being avoidant is really…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:41 PM
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Completely avoiding them wouldn't be harmful to them or treating them differently, though. If the guy is serious about it, he won't be treating them any way good or bad because he'll be avoiding them. That's pretty tough to do I think (although apparently possible as at least one person who has commented knew a guy like that).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:04 PM
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Same in Korea too. Some members have had to write apology letters to fans not for hiding their relationships but for being in them at all. Wild stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:00 PM
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I considered editing the post to say I don't mean only men feel this way, of course I think this could be true for a lot of women as well--assuming my theory is in any way correct and doesn't apply to just me. It's heartening to know that people are taking you up on the offer, though. I'm relatively a hugger but I'm not sure whether I could do it (I've never encountered a free hugs t-shirt in the wild yet, so I have no way to test it for myself). I also don't particularly enjoy Christmas shoppin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:15 PM
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I can't say for sure but perhaps it's a combination of various things we might call "end-of-the-year" blues. Even during relatively successful years, as we start to turn toward the next one I find myself a little melancholy. Usually not over one specific thing. I look back and wonder if I met all the milestones or goals, or I start to wonder if I'll do that next year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:05 PM

Now I find myself wondering how far back I'd need to go to find relatives among mine who did that. I was fortunate to know my great-grandparents who both lived to very ripe ages. Having visited them regularly as a lad I know they slept together. But now I wonder about their parents and forebears further back. (They were still fairly uptight about these subjects, as many people in my family were/are). That whole separate bed thing on TV was certainly wild, if I remember correctly it was I Love Lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:03 PM

Ward Cleaver probably made comparatively little money by today's standard even among entry-level jobs and it was enough for one car, suits every day, dresses for June, and two boys. And what appeared to be a fairly large house (it's been a while since I've seen any episodes but even Ward's study alone seemed massive). Very sanitized of course, but that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:55 PM
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I don't disagree, but part of that is that so many people are this (I usually stop at "pathetic" because that's more judgmental, but you can observe that a lot of people are stunted.) And this is coming from a homeschooled kid. I know what stunted looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:04 PM
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I believe they call this the duality of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:45 AM
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Not the one who asked but that's a very sweet answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:23 PM
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I was wondering that myself. If you decide that meeting/building a life with someone is a major goal you want to achieve, it makes sense to maximize those options. Often that can definitely include moving. Not always an easy thing to do, but that's why I say if it is a major goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:10 PM

Never stop never stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:24 PM
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It seems closer to 7 million but you ain't wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:38 PM
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Neither defending nor lambasting porn use here but you're not wrong, sadly. Some years back the whole true crime thing was one of my major interests. After a while I realized that even the act of consuming it was highly exploitative itself. And the craze has gotten a lot worse since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:13 PM
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I think some parents probably are. I've met my share of dumpster fire incompatible couples, as I'm sure you have. But I used mine as an example to illustrate why that isn't always the case. My parents would choose what they thought was best, but that would happen to align with what they think is best in general. To put it another way that may make it more clear, they would choose the same type of person for all of their children despite their children being wildly different people. If you went t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:45 PM
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I haven't looked at it through the lens of the age of consent, but I might be intrigued by your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:38 PM
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I'm nearly 40 and I know my parents very well. They would for sure choose someone they would see themselves marrying. That would be their primary criteria. Which is not a good criterion unless they in fact are marrying said person. Just got done talking to my partner about a sad case of child neglect in which two vegan parents had their kid taken off them because they felt milk and grapes for every meal were sufficient. Parents doing what they think is best for them and extrapolating it to the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:10 PM
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My parents are good people but for sure would choose someone who was not compatible with me in this way among others. And I'm quite sure the woman in this hypothetical wouldn't be thrilled with me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:07 PM
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It wouldn't be to my benefit--that was the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:01 PM
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Funnily enough I was thinking about arranged marriages the other day and what would be the outcome of mine, most likely. It's all well and good to say that no one looks out for you like your parents. And in most respects I think that is true. For marriage, though, I have a pretty strong feeling that my parents would choose someone who fulfilled their idea of ideals regardless of whether or not this woman would be compatible with me. They wouldn't necessarily choose someone wholly incompatible wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:46 PM

The beginnings of a wacky and unexpected buddy comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:22 PM

DQ reference; noice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:10 PM
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I suppose it's true that they can, but I wonder how common it is for them to do that unless they a. have little to no relationship with said male family member and thus literally do not care at all, or b. have an extremely bad relationship with said male family member which includes a history of behavior that makes the accusation seem plausible. Otherwise, I just don't see people siding with the random woman just because they're both women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:06 PM
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Ah okay. Well I can believe randos not believing the guy, and the state is very often lax in what we might call investigative skill, but it makes sense that his parents stood by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:28 PM
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Well I definitely wouldn't find it funny if it actually happened, even not to me personally, but it's just an oddly specific thing. So did no one believe the guy or what happened? Even the family of the friends of the family didn't take his side I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:23 PM
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Is this some kind of "would you believe your son even though he is a mens" type of gotcha? What a bizarre scenario. All three people are in the hospital after this encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:48 PM
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That's a cool shade of blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:57 PM
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Yeah I kinda agree with this as someone whose partner loves trying out different hair colors and styles. Currently she's going for the average blonde look but it's been other colors in the past. The only thing that for sure doesn't convey maternal qualities to me is the phrase "I don't like/want kids." That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:30 PM

Hey. You like what you like. And I'm with you on the thighs from a different angle--I get it. I'm also somewhat ashamed to say it is fully half the reason I like some of the spectator Olympic sports that I like, (track, pole vault). I searched "Faf de Klerk smile" as well and I can see from where you're coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:23 PM

Oh it's not just UFC but I totally get you. The only sport that ever even remotely made my dad talk to the TV ever in his life was college wrestling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:19 PM

And today I learned that Faf is a name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:18 PM
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I don't have a lot of context here but I love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:18 AM
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One of the main things I had to learn when I was younger as one of the few visibly disabled dudes in my circles was that if I looked at everything about relationships through that lens, I would never allow myself to get anywhere. And I learned that it was a mindset I would have to change on my own. I felt--and in many ways still feel--much less capable than average, to put it mildly. And I do sympathize with it being hard to change that because the focus really must be internal. It doesn't matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:49 PM
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Chronic pain is quite the kicker. I am fortunate that I don't deal with what I would call severe chronic pain. Mostly just constant dull ache in some joints and the lower back. After a while it is just how you feel all the time so that feeling is normal, you know what I mean? Like it would be strange to wake up with no pain? I only really feel hemmed in by it when I want to do some transatlantic travel or walk around a new city--then my body really kind of reminds me what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:31 PM
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As far as I know he's relatively good now, it just might be that he doesn't get back to a place where he can do manual labor anymore. If that's what you've known, I'm sure that takes a big adjustment. I think he's old enough to retire, but that doesn't necessarily make it easier, and some people just aren't in a position to retire. My biggest surgery also was when I was young. I had a couple as an infant and then the big one was as a teenager due to issues with cerebral palsy and wanting to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:28 PM
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OHS is a big deal; really glad you seem to be recovering well. The maintenance guy at our apartment complex had to have some stuff done last year due to heart issues and is still not back and may not be. I think of him often and hope he's finding a new balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:05 PM
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Sometimes I'm in this weird space where I want to appreciate life fully without worry of risk simply because I'm blessed to be here due to how my disability is birth-related. Yet other times I also worry about too much risk because this is the only body I have and it already doesn't work as well as I'd like.... weird stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:59 PM
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As a disabled guy, the disabling aspects of a fight are something that I think are lost on many people. They just have no idea how easy it would be to drastically alter their entire lives and bodily integrity with one mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:25 PM
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Heck not just lions; who the heck thinks they're going to win against a croc?! The only secondhand tale I know of that is even remotely similar is when some friends were in the Amazon, their guide had to kill some kind of caiman rather quickly. But we're talking about a dude who lived there his whole life and was familiar with the wildlife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:17 PM
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Whatever else might be said, it's clear that you're sure based on experience that this is the best path for you and you're sticking to it. That's admirable. I think lots of people know that these things aren't for them but go ahead and go for it anyway--to their own detriment and that of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:06 PM
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I would have jumped in for my male S/O; my female friends; my male friends; my family; my dog; other pets; and depending on the context possibly strangers. I think this is a key aspect; it has to do with whether you would generally come to someone's aid, particularly if as you mention the situation has now escalated. Someone starting a fight is a different sort of person than one who might defend someone already in a fight. I catch myself romanticizing the idea of "fighting" sometimes but things…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:03 AM
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I guess to paraphrase what I said in the previous thread, there tend to be no distinct differences in dress according to political views--based on the people I know from both groups of course, since I have no idea about anyone I don't know based on their manner of dress. I also agree with the above poster that personality plays a large role in this much more so than views. I know women who are not conservative who favor what people call "modest", and I know politically conservative girls who pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:56 AM
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I don't know what you mean by "the face of conservative women" really, but as someone who grew up in very conservative circles due to intense family pressure but later ran in more "liberal" circles, I don't find a ton of the women in either group dress all that differently from one another. Granted, this is just among the circles I'm in. The conservative women (I'm talking very, very conservative) weren't out there wearing ankle-length dresses or anything, but neither were they what people gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:13 AM

Didn't we just have a similar topic yesterday? And wasn't one of the top answers "they get with men who are/were also part of hookup culture?" I mean this seems obvious. They don't need every or even most men to "take them serious[ly]".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:32 AM
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I assume they have to meet some kind of standard for moving about the battlefield, though that's just a guess. I'm fit for my age but I can't run and don't walk quickly either. I suppose I could be conscripted into a combat role, but it would be a little bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:50 PM
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Would only be prepared in any non-combat role due to disability. Otherwise it wouldn't even make sense to use me as fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:10 PM
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That's very likely. I catch myself doing it sometimes because I often need a grocery service--particularly in winter when I'm stuck due to ice. But things would still change if I couldn't get the service and I'm still reliant on someone else to bring me the goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:00 PM
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Dang it now I want the scoop on the best bits of those projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:41 AM
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This is sort of true. I recently read a book in which the character describes his father as "from the old school of dry skin diseases and believing that moisturizing was only for women."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:34 AM
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That amount of money is so unknowable and would alter so many things that I couldn't say for sure. Depending on how I made the money, at what point I made it, etc, I might not even be the same person. Money doesn't necessarily change a person, but billions certainly puts things on an entirely different trajectory, and would do even more so if that is something you inherited or built early-ish in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:40 AM
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But that's clearly insane even just from a bio perspective to say nothing of a social or economic one. You'd have to be extremely gullible to place any stock in a take like that. Though, I will grant you that the world seems full of gullible people. Are they that gullible? I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:35 PM
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Hopefully. It can be dangerous work and as you might know, there's some people in the industry who actively work to keep it as dangerous as possible just to keep the pay as high as possible. A few years back there's was big issue with the miners in my partner's home country because they were vehemently against new equipment with better safety protocols because they didn't want to lose that sweet hazard pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:22 PM
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The argument has some merit, but it doesn't make sense as some kind of dichotomy because men need men as well. Anyone living in a halfway decent society needs society to keep functioning. It's why most people who think they are hyper-independent really aren't; they're just hyper-interdependent without realizing it. It's the same reason it is silly when you come across a modern-day dude who takes informal credit for things "men" did in the past that built up society just because modern dude happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:19 PM

I'm a dude but this is me precisely. I take a few more nowadays but mostly just for the missus and even when we're on a trip she takes almost all of the photos, which is a bit unfair of me I think. I just don't think about it much. I didn't have a phone with a camera in it until my early 20s, so I didn't grow up snapping pics and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:36 AM

The women you hang with sound a little controlling to a weird degree if they're telling you you can't touch your food until they take a photo. I don't really hang with people who are into food pics tbf, and the only times I can remember a scenario somewhat like this is when a group of us were together for some rare event at a very special place with special food. Then there was group pic and a food pic. I'm glad you're trying to advocate for yourself but it sounds like you might need to up it a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:39 AM
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As with the previous thread, I really don't see a whole lot of difference that can be put down to political leanings aside from the political leanings themselves. Grew up and lived in heavily red areas, went to school in bluer areas, traveled around and hung with a lot of bluer folk (both US and otherwise) and have a bunch of family and such who are red.... Like others have said, you can find all types among the two sides. I think part of the issue with your question is in what you're asking bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:10 AM
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Right? I do think it is good to see if you mesh with the other person based on this stuff fairly early, but there's no need to go at it quite so abruptly, in my opinion. I could see this being easier in places that have several major political parties, perhaps, because then things are not quite so divisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:58 PM
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Can't really comment on the looks part as I guess we're not supposed to do that outside of a dedicated weekly. Two and three are kind of in that same category. For all the rest of it, I have never noticed anything in pretty much anyone across the spectrum that leads me to believe one group skews as more attractive generally because a lot of it depends on how well you know a person, your interest in them, and what you are looking for or value in a partner. I can say that anyone who is primarily c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:48 PM

There is nothing you can quote in the comment you're replying to that indicates this. Not even remotely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:08 PM

Depends on a variety of factors. Since I can't run, it depends on things like the environment, their proximity, their intent, and to some extent their physicality relative to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:29 PM

Very true. My overall point though wasn't really a stranger-known dichotomy though. More so just an observation about how turned up fear is in some places more so than others. I would say part of that is marketing, but I haven't studied how or to what extent the other places I've lived do or don't try to profit from the general public being fearful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:50 PM

I think there would be less of what we might describe as neuroticism if more people were just generally more prepared. Not even physically but just mentally. The very idea that this sort of thing can occur in a stereotypically nice neighborhood--where the bad can live just as much as the good--is just so unbelievable to most people that when it happens, sometimes that fear gets out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:14 PM

I'm not saying it doesn't present itself elsewhere, but having lived in different places and with a partner from a different culture with different attitudes toward this sort of thing.... I think the US amps this up to 11. The neuroticism around "danger" is very high in certain places in the US. I witness this among my own social circles, and contrasting it with other places in the world I've been can be, interesting? There are just some areas where people get kind of obsessed with defense again…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:52 PM

Yeah this seems to match up in some ways with my relationship. We both have tons of down time doing our own thing that just involves kind of being in each other's presence and enjoying each other's company.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:44 PM

Oh the attempt is noble; I do it myself and not only for women. It's just wise to have a somewhat realistic idea of how that is going to play out if you're facing more than one foe, a bigger foe, an armed foe, a trained foe, or any combination thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:42 PM

Dang this pic takes me back to childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:38 PM

I suppose that's possible in very specific circumstances. In most cases the girl and the guy will exit the situation, which is the correct choice whenever that is possible. Take it from a disabled guy who can't run--running is the wiser choice. I had to learn how to handle people since I can't run, but it's not great. The kicker is that there are only a few contained scenarios in which a single, unarmed dude is going to come out on top, and they usually involve a single, unarmed foe. In pretty m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:35 PM

It sounds more so that most people understand (correctly) that a guy isn't necessarily a strong deterrent in today's world. Most dudes are woefully unprepared for sudden violence. Which is not to say women are any more prepared, just that it doesn't take much to deal with today's modern dude, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:26 PM

Obviously you're not wrong for embracing whatever works for your relationship. No one is. That's kind of the point. It's nice that your relationships feel fulfilling when you're cooking or cleaning. Different relationship dynamics work for different couples. It's important for adults to have basic life skills so personally I don't applaud either adult for having them, but it's also true that both partners need to support each other and that likely looks different and comes about in different way…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:21 PM
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I think you're really on to something with "curious about the world." I think that encapsulates a lot of things and can include several disparate things that different people or groups might peg as "interesting." And I think you're right that very few people are. It's an important thing, and I wish more people were. I'm not the most curious person, and whatever my level is doesn't make me smarter or better or more interesting or anything like that. But I wish I had more people around me who were…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:12 AM
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Definitely you could find some deals. I couldn't say precisely how common it is, but she's found some brand names for very inexpensive. We even looked up the hallmarks of how to spot the authenticity because we we're a bit suspicious. I think there are just some people who decide to pay it forward and let someone else get the chance to wear it for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:59 PM
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You are probably already tapped into this but my partner finds tons of "gently used almost like new" pieces for very reasonable prices on some auction sites and when we look up the values of the new pieces sometimes we are quite stunned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:30 PM
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My partner introduced me to a fashion guy on Twitter who posts daily about men's fashion not just currently but retro using photos and things from decades past and explained why/how fashion for men looked the way it did, what looked good (and still looks good) and what trends in his opinion do not look good or are trying but failing to emulate those styles. I'm not very stylish and could not look anything close to that good in those kinds of suits but it is certainly very intriguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:58 PM
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This is an absolutely huge trend right now--not that it even needs to be for you to do it if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:36 PM
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No, and not only because of that. My QoL as a disabled dude would be massively reduced. Not just medically but socially and economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:14 PM
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14 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:10 PM
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Hey, thanks for a take from someone on the ground (past or present) who can give some lived perspective on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:49 PM
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They kinda already do, it's one of the two biggest complaints I see from... a certain segment of society, let's say. (I'm joking a bit here of course, if you know you know.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:31 PM
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It does seem odd. I've never thought about trying to use that as some kind of selling point. (Granted, this doesn't necessarily mean people see me as a good fellow, for all I know they don't.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:47 PM
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I'm sure there were several live-action Disney channel originals that took place in high school settings so what do you say to that, huh?! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:40 AM

Dang it this was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:19 AM

You have a lot of strong feelings about these guys. I have to give you some credit for your general verbosity on this subject I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:53 PM
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That really does suck. Especially if you have a condition. Some of the performers my wife follows wear things like baggier clothing sizes specifically because they have skin conditions and it helps with not trapping sweat, etc. It really sucks you don't feel better about yourself and might have to put up with breakouts just because going with the flow is easier (which I get, totally. Sometimes I have to play a certain "role" as a disabled guy to make others feel more comfortable even though that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:07 PM
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I'm not particularly hirsute but even so, the lady does prefer me to shave under the arms as well. I did read something not long ago about how it's a shame that women can't seem to not shave without it being some sort of commentary even if they are not trying to make any kind of statement at all. It will still be taken as a statement. That sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:52 PM
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This works with more concrete things, sure. It doesn't work well with things like interpersonal relationships, emotions, or character traits. It can be true that someone is seeking someone else who is complementary and has things they lack. But it is definitely not a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:08 PM
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Never, ever apologize for the space you take up in the world. This was (frankly, is) so much me from a different angle. I spent a huge amount of time growing up thinking "how do I make myself the least inconvenient possible when I go out and about". Even to people who wouldn't notice or care. It's somewhat less of an issue nowadays but it was such a big part of my formative years that I'm not entirely sure I can fully change that pattern. This led to some minor conflicts early in my relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:31 AM
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and can never admit mistakes. This is really one of the biggest things, honestly. Without getting too personal, this right here has been at the crux of so many things I thought I knew about some of the people close to me. In the end, they chose this path rather than just owning it and saying "you know what, that was a mistake." Not just admitting it to someone, but even to themselves. It's absolutely bizarre watching/listening to something like that in real-time. You're certain they'll choose ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:26 AM
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It could have been your environment. I didn't grow up completely encapsulated by this viewpoint, but it was still somewhat prevalent even so, and I had to do some searching and growth out on my own away from family before I figured things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:13 AM
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I agree with this as a formerly young and still somewhat foolish person myself. It is quite grating when fully grown adults who should be mature are like this, though. And unfortunately I know quite a few who express this idea openly--that different choices are somehow a sleight against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:12 AM
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When I was younger, a lot. But this was mostly due to growing up disabled and not really seeing or being around any other disabled people/being the only disabled person in my friend groups, etc. It's a bit different from the more general/ubiquitous concerns around "being masculine." That coupled with worries about not getting chosen due to same we're big factors when I was younger. Less so now. And as I got older I realized that masculinity simply is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:07 PM
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I'll reply here due to lack of flair, but I think there is a lot of ground between what people interpret as "mind games" and straightforward answers that tell someone something step by step. Perhaps I am using it incorrectly, but I interpret "mind games" as deliberate vagueness designed to trip one up or frustrate one unnecessarily. Expecting a significant other to put some thought into a gift so that it seems thoughtful and so that you don't feel like you're telling someone to get you something…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:14 AM
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I mean if this is all it takes for it to feel unconditional to you and what you're chasing is just the feeling of unconditional love, it doesn't seem like it should be too hard for you to achieve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:52 AM
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Your partner hugging you after a tough day is just completely normal for most healthy couples, though. It doesn't even come close to the unconditional motherly love that you keep mentioning. It's very basic. Not that it isn't good or anything--but it is not unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:19 PM
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I agree unwanted touching is unacceptable. But you expand on your point by discussing grounds for sexual assault. It's certainly true that such unwanted touching could be grounds for that from a legal standpoint to say nothing of an ethical one. That said, I think in any healthy relationship, neither party is going to pursue this as a matter of course even if they are the recipient of unwanted touching even more than once. Which is to say, this is an issue mostly for already deeply unhealthy rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:07 PM
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I state this in previous comments to which you can refer at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:09 PM
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You're sort of expanding the definition of "expand" here. But, I guess "expand" is one way to look at it. Unlike many shorts the captions here make the intent of the video clear. You could have just found a short that actually matches your premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:52 PM
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It's just not a very good demonstration of a woman being uncomfortable being touched at that moment in my opinion. It is a better demonstration of either using a bad technique (which is the claim the video makes), bothering her when she is clearly busy, or both of those things. Early in our relationship, I once or twice also bothered my partner when she was busy and while she was not uncomfortable, she was exasperated and let me know that. So I don't bother when she is doing something like this …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:09 PM
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The captions which make the underlying point of the video clear do not match the premise you are attempting to ascribe to the video. Hence, bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:05 PM
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When I was in Italy there were so many dogs everywhere I wanted to pet but didn't because you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:02 PM
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Not looking uncomfortable does not mean comfortable, be careful about putting words in people's mouths. Regardless of her specific emotion, no one is entitled to violate someone's bodily autonomy. This clip just isn't a very good demonstration of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:01 PM
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The clip is clearly bait, but you're also sort of misconstruing what it is. The caption says it is a "bad initiation technique" and she clearly looks bored and exasperated rather than uncomfortable because the "petting technique" is either doing nothing for her or he's chosen to do it while she is clearly busy. All that said, people should read body language, in particular of partners be they men or women and learn from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:57 PM
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I really enjoy the internet but at the same time there are so many common apps I've never downloaded or tried, and so far I don't think I'm missing anything. I don't know if it is objectively harder for younger people, but I agree that it is pretty easy to put the phone down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:29 PM
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Yes, most things humankind has invented have pros and cons. And yes, the internet can distort your perceptions through various rabbit holes or grifts, which is why it is imperative to touch grass from time to time. Dating and relationships were actually made much easier for me personally thanks to the internet, but that may not be the case for most people, and in my case it was a mix of social media and friends in common rather than apps made for dating. (Or, apps made to keep one single, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:15 PM
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Ultimately, I think a lot of people tend to overthink this when it's rather simple: are you happier and more (or at least as) fulfilled enjoying your own company/other connections over finding a "the one?" That's really all it comes down to. If yes, go for it. If not, you'll probably keep looking for the other connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:58 PM
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I think it's good to not compromise on your standards, and, more specifically, your own sense of fulfillment. As a dude I want my fellows to keep to their standards, so ultimately this is a good thing. That said, "getting left out" is a little too passive here. Both parties are making choices they feel are best for them, as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:51 PM
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Yeah, that's my point. "Other Western European countries" while somewhat culturally similar do not look at conservative and progressive through the dogmatic dichotomy that Americans do. Only works for the US. Which is fine, but let's not pretend just because some other "culturally similar" countries are anywhere close to as dogmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:03 PM
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Yeah same. The lens we're asked to look at here is extremely narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:52 PM
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Most of what you listed only works through an extremely narrow lens regarding a specific version of what we might charitably define as "American conservatism". And even then only if you squint. Doesn't really work for conservatism/progressivism outside the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:52 PM
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Probably in other threads related to this topic, which has somehow become hot to Westerners recently. I addressed this myself in a now-deleted thread (not my own) that was apparently too focused on looks to remain up. But, anyway, the OG version of this movement is basically so small it is not even really a movement, and Westerners characterizing it as such almost always do so while framing it as a sort of sex strike. While it does involve a no-sex view, it's primarily for women who are not inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 11:18 PM
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In rare cases you get this even without the first part. My partner's mum once had an impromptu visit from a neighbor asking her how to cook some kind of meat. I guess his wife was not there at the moment. She explained to him in detail how she would do it but the dude just kind of stood there. It became apparent after some minor interrogation that what he meant was "can you cook this for me." Needless to say she was pretty surprised and explained to him why that wouldn't be happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:28 PM

It only shifts "in favor" of people who don't actually want the effort a relationship with another human takes and would prefer a softer alternative. Nothing particularly wrong with that, more power to 'em. But it doesn't shift this "balance of power" in any meaningful way in general for the people who are seeking the human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:09 PM
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I spent a lot of time in gyms and the one thing I hear from every single trained fighter is that if the other guy has a knife, turn around and sprint away. If there's more than one of them, turn around and sprint away. I follow content from quite a few fighters out of general interest as a cripple who can't really fight myself. There was one vid where about half a dozen of them who had trained for years did a test one-on-one unarmed against an attacker with a knife (large marker). As far as I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:01 AM
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I'm always checking corners and things pretty much first thing when I get back. Usually nothing lurking... I do occasionally find one or two of the house centipedes dead somewhere after a while. Not exactly sure why unless it's just a reaction to any lingering chemicals on my floors or counters after cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:20 PM
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They are so quick. I can leave for a minute and they are just nowhere in the room when I just saw them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:49 PM

probably some sort of weird collection of shit they call a hobby Even though I'm a dude I felt this hard. I used to be way more into collecting stuff. Ending up giving a ton of stuff away because I didn't like what it was turning into.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:03 PM
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Oh don't sell yourself too short on articulation--I think it's a fine and sometimes lost art. There's this nebulous line between good articulation and waxing too eloquent, do you think? I used to get marks on some of my papers at university by profs (literature and related subjects, mind you) for "ten-cent words where five will do" and I've tried to balance that kind of thing ever since. On another note I have to admit there's definitely some bugs that take getting used to for me. I've had quite…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:01 PM
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I'll reply here for lack of flair, There's no need to "feel masculine" if you are a man. It just is. For all the talk of masculinity you can find down YouTube or other rabbit holes of choice, the people selling the idea of masculinity as some nebulous concept want you to overthink it so they can make the grift work. I used to not "feel masculine" when I was younger due to being the only disabled guy in my friend group and, usually, even among my wider circle of acquaintances. But I realized late…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:24 PM
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Lol no I don't, this is not some nebulous concept "Does this action or situation lead to the outcome I desire" Ooh so confusing I wish I could say I wasn't surprised that this sort of thing still has to be spelled out here.... That and obviously "serving interests" is doing to differ from one person or relationship to the next, so defining it personally is not necessary in the context of a general debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:07 PM
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Hard flashback to the Ms. Cleo infomercials. "You're not listening to me because I see ya goin'. I see ya goin' back to im."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:45 PM
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Whew I don't know, but I've let two ltrs move in, and both became slobs immediately, I just don't get it. I will grant you that my partner and I spent a lot of time together but apart before being fully together. So we often traded weeks at a time at each other's places. Comfortable around one another but still a certain atmosphere of being a guest in one another's place. I wonder if that plays any role in how a person is once they commit to moving in. I don't know. When we stay at her bff and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:21 PM

This is no mean feat, congrats. Growing up I wrote a lot of drivel and very occasionally was published in fan sites (but it was not professional) but I wasn't published by any actual mags or journals. My background is Literature but a lot of the writing I do professionally is technical rather than creative. I think I have more talent as an editor than an actual writer to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:51 PM
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I appreciate your kindness, thank you. We really don't need to discuss it much, you're right. But it's less me and more that both sets of parents taught us to clean up as soon as we were old enough to understand it. And they modeled that behavior whether they were the dad or the mum. Cooking if necessary, cleaning up messes, what have you. And in my case we had the addition of farm work but the boys also needed to dust, vacuum, wash the dishes, etc. I wonder if it's just not as much of a thing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:49 PM

Honestly I think I might need you to start a blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:40 PM
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I think strengths and weaknesses is an excellent part of the conversation that doesn't seem discussed enough when these things come up here (with bizarre frequency). I think the heart of this question is personal and depends on the agreement of each couple, but the baseline should be "pulling one's weight" however said couple chooses to define it. Mostly, I think this is solvable when two adults living together just sort of clean up after themselves, you know? And maybe there's one day a week wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:27 PM

You kind of made my day with the use of "poxy" here and I just wanted to say thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:52 PM

Not only that, but a lot of them seem to come from accounts who wanted this outcome. That's fair enough, but it's pretty weird to get what you want and complain some more. But anyway, I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:24 PM
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Hey. at least your dog tries to give financial advice. Unlike some dogs I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:19 PM
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Edit here got me laughing, thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:11 PM
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It's another way in which bad actors can damage the perception of the whole, this is true. Which I mention only to point to a secondary effect that impacts trust and relations within the very demographic from which PPBs come.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:38 PM
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That's very cool that you've reached out. It is probably somewhat disheartened to be viewed with skepticism like that, but you clearly get why that is and don't take it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:10 PM
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It's a dynamic I really can't empathize with, and I've honestly tried. I try to imagine myself in that role and it just doesn't sound enjoyable even slightly. Especially if I was after any kind of intimacy. I don't think I could enjoy any of that. It would be like spending every day with a stranger, even after years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:03 PM
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I was a bit hasty in my response mostly because of the title I guess, which just says Western men and foreign women. The body seems to go into more detail that in this case foreign is lower-economic cases from places we don't consider globally "Western" in the economic growth sense, so yeah it doesn't really apply to me I reckon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:55 PM
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I dunno if I ever told this story on here but I probably have somewhere since ppbs come up quite a bit. My father used to work with a guy exactly like this. I don't know why the man was so open about it, but he told everyone how often he traveled to the eastern parts of Europe to meet up with women put in touch with him via a "matchmaking" service. As you might guess this was mostly a fleecing operation, and I'm flabbergasted that the guy either never figured it out or ignored the signs. He must…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:50 PM
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I have some fun engaging with your posts sometimes, but c'mon. For this to be relevant you would have to believe we should treat adults and children exactly the same under the law. We treat children with kid gloves and a greater degree of protection with less autonomy for good reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:39 PM
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I can't say myself since my wife is Western, just not from the same country as me. Your title just says "foreign" but the body of the post appears to describe just "non-Western" poor women with significantly different cultural values or ideas. If it's the latter, then yes I suppose it would probably be a bad idea, but I don't really have the passport bro mindset, so that's only a guess on my part. Many people who go elsewhere actually don't acclimate all that well. My partner's aunt came to my c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:22 PM
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Not the most important part but it's nice to see a proper use of "whomever", and thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:16 PM
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It varies on a case-by-case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:12 PM
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It's not actually pitting anyone against anyone. That may be a secondary effect (if true) but the onus is still on the adults in the situation to not pit themselves against each other. This proposal would affect basically anyone who met a foreigner and fell in love, not only the stereotypical passport bro/brodette. It doesn't make sense. I didn't actually set out to be with someone not from my country, it just worked out that way when we met, and there are quite a few people like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:08 PM

Some people outside of Europe have a skewed concept of "race." My partner from Central Europe was extremely confused when she learned that in the US, Italian immigrants were treated differently along racial lines. Which is totally understandable as Italians are completely white to her and the rest of the region. There's an old B&W "educational" video about Spain and it's hilarious because the narrator talks about this strange place where "few white people have ever set foot" or something. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:06 PM
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I can't really imagine it fully but I'm sure it is mentally taxing. I've had a few women stalk me but they didn't get violent or try to frame me, so even that wasn't as bad. Hoping your healing continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:16 AM
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Glad no injury or worse, of course, but sorry for the fallout after.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:48 PM
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Quite interesting, and I do mean that. Those familial expectations can carry a lot of weight sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:22 PM
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I get this standard as a dude myself, and I confess I do find it intriguing that you constantly had to adjust your speech despite his education. I grant that a high level of education does not necessarily mean a person will understand more concepts by default nor be more able to parse language, but still, I find this intriguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:53 PM
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Nothing is really unfair so long as the individual in question accepts how the standard may influence the choices or results, be they positive or negative (but this goes for men too). You can't really apply something like "fairness" to the search for interpersonal connections because that would rely on a moralistic framework that is absent from the paradigm itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:14 PM
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Sometimes you get the trifecta of neglect/infantilization and outright dislike--it can be rough out there. But at least there are quite a few genuinely good people to offset that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:49 AM
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I fully appreciate that. I like to think I can hold my own but in truth we need allies like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:32 AM
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I would just help someone in need if I could, be they man or woman. If the need is physical defense this becomes way more difficult for me due to disability issues. But if it's physical defense in a narrow hallway or an elevator--I'm your guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:54 PM
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Honestly made me lol for real as a disabled guy, props for that and thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:52 PM
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What about if you fight a disabled man tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:48 PM

Yeah that seems to be one of the typical lines from the "I am sure I'll just change their mind later" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:07 AM
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Frankly I need to go back and read more Faulkner--I mostly read him at uni and that was a while ago. I enjoy him but after graduating I really didn't keep up with reading more of his work. And that sounds like a great library. I'm sure by now you've read some of Lem's sci-fi work but, if not, do get your hands on some of that--doubtless you'll enjoy it. Wind River is such a great film. It's one of those I went into with no positive or negative expectations and it turned out great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:44 AM
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If you're at all into Poe-esque spooky in addition to sci-fi I'd also recommend What Moves the Dead. It's a short-ish and quick read that is pretty much a retelling of The Fall of the House of Usher. Funny you mention Faulkner as I heard recently that there are talks of updating/getting some new non-English translations of at least some of his works, although I'm not sure which ones. Translation is a pretty interesting field and I've always liked the idea of different translators coming along an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:29 AM
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If you have any kind of e-reader or similar way to read when you're out and about and forgot to pack something... I can recommend The Ministry of Time. It's my latest read and it was quite entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:08 AM
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I hope all the best for his sister as well--it's important to know what is reasonably in your wheelhouse to deal with, so I hope you don't have any negative feelings toward yourself not being able to help both as they might need it simultaneously. I'm sure you're probably still dealing with a lot from the weather damage up your way along with everything else too. My chat is always open whenever you might need. I appreciate your words--I try to present my best self but in truth I'm a deeply flawe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:03 AM
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Sometimes I feel like people in general say things that are much more helpful to the other party than they might realize, and that appears to be the case here. I'm glad to know that my words have helped you in some way. It sounds like there's a new chapter opening up for you and someone else too, and I really hope that all goes well. I'm sure it'll have a few rough edges like most interpersonal relations, but you seem heavily invested in making sure this person gets an excellent home life. I fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:52 PM

Maybe I'm out of touch but I don't think most people would consider this a "kink" unless the person couldn't shut up or was otherwise bizarrely fixated on it. While not the same, one of my friends at uni often got attention from much older guys and she was mostly fine with it. The times when she wasn't was when they just could not stop bringing up how much younger she was, like they were obsessed or something. The weirdest part was how much they brought up her youthful facial features. She had o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:36 PM
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I should've tried to buy something 10-15 years ago, honestly, even if I didn't have plans to make that my own home specifically. Nowadays I assume I won't own, but things do change and markets do change... I'm just prepared not to own (a bit like how I feel about social security as well, to be honest.) I can't really do anything major to the place we're in now, and I have always like the idea of renovating my own place--I'm sure it is especially nice to do that in farmhouse country. Before they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:52 PM
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Same with the old farmhouse I grew up in. I don't know if it was 5x the value by the time my parents sold it, but they got way more for it than I ever expected given its age, condition, the area it was in, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:26 PM
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People are not typically self-reflective in a way that makes them question themselves It saddens me how true this has become (always been) as I've gotten older and noticed it more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:07 PM
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Hey man, not sure what your disability is or in what aspects it affects you but, solidarity. It can be tough to deal with that in dating let alone life in general. I know you've listed some issues here and all but, I hope you're doing relatively okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:55 AM
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It isn't my claim, and I am not invested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:13 PM
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Plot twist: they aren't made up and OP is both dudes in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:06 PM
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You think scams happen to most people? I find that claim to be dubious. Regardless, though, if I am scammed I will think myself a fool--as I should.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:04 PM
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They're definitely victims as well, but one doesn't preclude the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:52 PM
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Not untrue and IMO a far better topic for actual predatory exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:40 PM
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"Leading on" and "acting like they're into you" are both different things though. The dudes who pay for OF absolutely want the chick to act like she's into them. That is what they pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:39 PM
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Given how much we know about the dangers of both of the above (though the latter is mostly for children, not dumb adults) I personally don't think we need the labels. That said, if you have some idea of a special warning label for adult men who want to spend their money how they like, have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:36 PM
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Pig butchering is a more general term. And elderly people are often (rightly) criticized for being idiots. Just recently my partner told me about a case where some gran who didn't trust banks kept all of her savings in the house. Scammers figured this out and called her posing as the police and told her that someone was after her money. Their advice? Throw it all off the balcony and we "the police" will safeguard it until we catch those dirty scammers. Eldery gran trusted this implicitly and tos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:54 PM
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People either don't care until they suddenly do, or they don't discuss anything beforehand (which is one of the primary drivers for incompatibility down the line in so many other things with dating), or they've discussed it but one partner thinks they can change the other, similar to how someone who wants kids knowingly gets into a relationship with someone who does not. Then they get a shocked pikachu face when, big surprise, the person they are dating has sticks with their particular view on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:50 PM
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All I can think about are George Bluth Sr.'s "boyfight" videos from Arrested Development.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:31 AM
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There are so many implicit and explicit societal constraints. I say constraint rather than restraint because people can and do shrug those off, but I think it can be challenging for both men and women. I think what you say there about feeling stifled makes sense, and it would probably go the same way in my own relationship. She's very used to getting done what needs doing, and if I insisted for some reason on being the only person who does X, Y, and Z even though she also could, I think she woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:17 PM
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In terms of sheer survival? No. In terms of general QoL for most people? Yes. You don't need to be able to walk to survive in this world. But you QoL will suffer a drastic dip if you can't. While I think we should be careful about how we use the word "need", relationships and intimacy are extremely important for most people at some stage of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:10 PM
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I as well, but I also get how that can be a tough sell. The idea of being "useful" is very strong and sold to us very early in life. And, to be fair, she would absolutely say I'm useful to her and be able to list a variety of ways, even if I can't or don't see it like she does. But that's interpersonal relations for you. People see us differently than we do ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:32 PM
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I don't have this dynamic personally (see above or below or wherever my other post in the thread ends up) but as a guy, what I think you're asking about comes down to feeling needed. For better or worse, a lot of guys like that feeling, and it is one that can be intensified the more the partner relies on you. I hesitate to ascribe anything overly negative to this although it can be very harmful because the man who doesn't feel needed may end up feeling bitter about it and turn that resentment ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:07 PM
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I don't think example 1 is directly contradictory; just somewhat oppositional. She's independent and successful and you like buying her gifts (there's a similar dynamic in my relationship). Anyway, I like being helpful to my partner, but in truth she needs me for very little. In fact I might go as far as to say she doesn't need me for anything, really. Even emotional things, which tend to be one of my strengths, can be hard to help her with because of her culture and how she was raised. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:02 PM
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The last part is particularly true. Fictional stories set in 19th-century England tend to be some of my favorites--I would absolutely not do well living in that time period. And I don't even mean that I wouldn't like it, I mean that society wouldn't like me, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:50 PM
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That's going to be different for everyone. But this is basically something each person in their own relationship can tell pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:27 PM
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Protecting yourself in vulnerability is oftentimes very pragmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:09 PM
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No, At that point the only emotion I would be feeling is very upset that someone was trying to hurt her. As to the why of it, well because I care about her and I don't want anything to hurt her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:06 AM
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Honestly very good question, ha. Glad you are living your best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:05 AM
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I was the rural homeschooled disabled kid so until uni I really didn't have a good way to get out there and hang with my peers the way most kids my age did. While I wouldn't say I'm very extroverted (owing to needing some of my own time and space to recharge) I can be very social and extro at parties and social gatherings. Also quite down for a lot of spontaneous things (less so now maybe, but during my college years I made sure to be plenty spontaneous when it came to going out, again partially…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:45 PM
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I think it's always easier to learn this stuff when younger, and as someone who grew up very isolated and undersocialized due to how I was raised, it is very true that these can be tremendously hard to work on when you get older. I had nonstandard school and living situations and that didn't really change till university years. To be clear, I wasn't completely unsocialized, but it was much less than peers of the same age. And yes, if one does choose to go to university, it can be one of the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:29 PM
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Reply here as no flair. I don't think there is really a "good guy" archetype. By which I mean, I don't think (beyond a few basic things that should apply to most humans) there is a "good guy" who exhibits a narrow set of behaviors we might define as "good." That said, what is "good" can vary based on the perception of the one doing the judging. I have no way of even beginning to guess what percentage of younger guys today might be both "good" and struggling with dating. It would just be a comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:04 PM
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"Have" doesn't really apply to kids as you helped to "have" it by default. At this point we disagree on too fundamental a level to continue the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:27 PM
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Dude didn't even bother to pay for his own extra meats?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:22 PM
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Feeling secure in a relationship is important. If you feel insecure or that her level of interest is too low, ending it for your mental health is the probably the best option, so good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:34 PM
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Agreed. I didn't read the books as they were published, only started close to when the final one came out, so I had no idea that everyone in the films (at least everyone from the past) was aged up in order to make Snape's former classmates the same age as Rickman. I.e. Potter's parents clearly not being 20ish when you see their ghosts in the films.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:06 PM
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I just learned about them a few months ago. Well after they were a thing of course. I sometimes wonder if Alan Rickman had an opinion on that. I think they wouldn't exist had it not been Rickman in the role.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:00 PM
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why would a kid I don’t want and forced upon me hold value to me? It wouldn't. That is my point. Your argument explains how the child has no value to you, which I already said above is a fair assessment. It doesn't explain the abandonment part, which would be separate from whether or not the kid holds value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:58 PM
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I think the issue is that a lot of those dudes don't have such an aversion. Not all, but a lot. It's something they feel very strongly about but they also still want to date the woman in such cases but are just salty about it. As much at their own feelings perhaps, as they are at the woman. Frankly if they didn't want to date such women and avoided them it wouldn't really be such an issue or recurring topic here. But it is a recurring topic, and it's because the guy a. doesn't like the standard,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:55 PM
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Not a woman but why would anyone be with someone who currently dumps money into female streamers while in a relationship with you? This part of the hypothetical really kind of shreds all the rest of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:45 PM
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This explains that the kid holds no value to you, which is a fair assessment. It doesn't explain that it is "not abandonment." If I see you in the midst of a life-threatening scenario and decide to do nothing to help you but could, I have left you to fend for yourself. You hold no value to me over my time in this scenario, but it doesn't mean that I didn't leave/abandon you to your fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:43 PM
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No, I consider myself below-average, but I also think I should accept looking how I look, aging gracefully, and all of that. Aside from which my biggest physical issue is leg disability, which would sort of negate any of the common procedures available today and their gains. If we lived in a magical world where medical science could address more serious issues.... I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:01 PM
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Probably not. But I agree with u/krackedy that it would be a bit odd unless you just want to date someone exactly like yourself. Which, some people probably do and that's fine too, but I don't think most people want this. There are still many basic standards that overlap even with couples who aren't looking for carbon copies. Things like resilience, honesty, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:52 PM
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Whether an adult wants to have the kid is irrelevant to the judgment of whether or not they abandon said kid. Yes, both adults are responsible for the kid... obviously. If you would like to make an actual argument re how not wanting the kid means it is impossible to abandon it, I'm prepared to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:47 PM
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I was going to say I appreciate your faith in my intelligence, but how you've explained it here I do get the basic idea. So perhaps I could. I'll definitely have to read up more to form a more concrete opinion that could be useful for debate purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:26 PM
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Awesome, that's good enough for me. This reminds me that there are also some books I've been trying to read that don't have great translations so I just get an idea of what is going on sadly, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:24 PM
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I'm sorry to say I do not. I watch a lot of Spanish/Scandi/SEA/ stuff, but my only claim to a foreign language is Russian and a smattering of other stuff that could hardly be called fluent. My partner did her Masters in Spanish philology and it's one of about half dozen languages she knows, maybe she even knows this movie but her Spanish training was all Spanish from Spain and mostly focused on Spain's culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:20 PM
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That's actually one of the more succint points against this whole thing (aside from the obvious ones). If they're willing to come live in a much less traditional country, their opinions on that country's lack of "tradition" can't be wholly negative. And if they don't prefer more progressive environments... why would they leave? You could just go live somewhere else but only in a very tiny, insular bubble, I guess. My partner's aunt did this. Came here from central Europe decades ago but doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:16 PM
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This is hilarious and amazing and matches the stuff I've seen when I spend time in my partner's country.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:07 PM
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Thanks for this, will check it out. Hidden gem info of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:02 PM
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For sure. I would be almost entirely lost in any discussion of metaphysics, myself, but could contribute re many of the broader issues raised in the OP as they are indeed more accessible. While we could certainly shoehorn in some connections to dating dynamics, I just think the overall scope of many of them doesn't match the themes we discuss in this space. But, others may feel differently of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:33 AM
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At this point I'm unsure about reading more, tbh. But to address the points there at the end, I think many people still find something bigger than the self in today's modern world. Many don't, of course, but that is as it has always been. While I do have opinions on things like tech, boundaries and globalization, I think discussing those points in particular is beyond the scope of this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:14 AM
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Now nothing--you hang around in circles in which every couple is matched evenly and I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:51 PM
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There are "conventional" standards, but that isn't the same as "objective" standards. I see too many mismatched couples for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:40 PM
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What is unfair about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:38 PM
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This does seem to line up with what I've observed living in that area for parts of the year for the past several years as my missus is from there. I will say that a lot of looks-based standards seem lower, and for better or worse a lot of guys here would prefer that, even if they have to rise to meet the criteria you list here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:34 PM
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I don't disagree with that, I just think point 1 in particular is either poorly-phrased or a bad argument. Regardless who the single parent is, or even if it's both parents, I don't think "lifestyle" is a compelling argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:40 PM
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You may be right. There's nothing noble (or ignoble) about wanting a tall guy though, and I think any woman with even a modicum of a brain actually knows this deep down. I would actually be highly entertained if anyone tried to debate with me that their is any inherent nobility in going after the tall guy or the D-Cups. All that said, although change is harder than status quo, I have sometimes been surprised at the changes I've seen in my life, so it is possible. Even if not, I think strong, ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:21 PM
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I don't agree with people abandoning their kids, but the first point in particular is a poor one. It is not necessarily a bad thing for the parent(s) to take a "lifestyle" hit while they are raising children. It's about the kids primarily, and if mum or dad need to tone things down for a few years, that is not a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:46 PM
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My point throughout the entire thread is that this is negative behavior that should not be reinforced. It's not only leads to negative behavior, it's just a false premise on the face of it. If the guy is really into large breasts and it is an important feature to him, I think it's all good. I don't know how he could screen for that in his profile without coming off as a bit of a twat, but I think he should be able to. And perhaps the only way to do that is just to own that and accept that, at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:41 PM
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I assume when people say this what they mean is they don't love even the people with whom they are involved. It's an extra layer designed to add more nuance and weight to the discussion or premise. I don't agree with the premise but I assume they are not talking about just most people who go about their lives. If they actually do mean "most" up to and including complete strangers, admittedly that does make the argument weirder and if I'm wrong in my assumption, I'll take that. You're right that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:13 PM
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I'd say it is reasonable as well, but my point is using myself as an example was to show that line's abitrariness. Both disabled men and women have a much harder time finding compatible partners compared to their abled counterparts, and most people, including most disabled people, understand why that is. My point in asking the question to the other user was to illustrate how arbitrary the line is if one is so convinced that there is or could be a moralistic framework to dating preferences or sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:52 PM
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I know this wasn't meant to be a humorous response but you got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:20 AM
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Can you elaborate on this validity? The women who rejected me, for example, on the basis of disability were less moral than the ones who did not? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:42 AM
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That's sort of what I get at in my response. The direction is usually "you not dating me for my immutable characteristic is less noble and more shallow than my reasons which involve mutable things." Since OP didn't really go that way explicitly I didn't go there either, but it does seem to be the heavy implication in a lot of these topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:29 AM
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I mean I dunno how old you guys are but as a guy who used to be not as old as he is now, it was extremely common in all of my friend groups past the age of 15 to lament amongst ourselves that the ladies were not selecting us. I think it's absolutely normal and your friends are probably fine. As you say, everyone is young and they might be complaining but such is the lot of the young person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:25 AM
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I mean sure, the debate could just be a contest of "no we don't" and "yes you do," but my point is that it has no real meaning unless one is trying to apply a moralistic framework, as in someone is "right" or "wrong" for their judgments. I don't say that because I think such a framework should be applied, I actually think it is a mistake to do that. But typically that is kind of how the premise sets itself up in the minds of the people debating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:22 AM
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They'll adjust perhaps as they get older or heck their tastes could even change. Or not. And all of that is fine. As long as it isn't a serious problem that causes some kind of depression or something even complaining and whatnot is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:18 AM
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Well, I really can't say how well they estimate themselves or not because I don't know them. But in general, I've always felt that you pull who you can pull. I think men can and should have at the very least "decent" standards for themselves, and how each dude defines that is up to him. If you were to ask me, I'd say my own standards are fairly high. If your friends are going after specific types they are clearly not getting, it may behoove them to possibly rethink their strategies or desires ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:14 AM
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I don't really see the point of a debate about this unless we're trying to apply a moralistic framework to the two categories. I.e. one set of judgments is more or less noble than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:10 AM
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I mean, people have different standards on what is below, average, or above based on their personal tastes for what is attractive. An above-average person to me might not be to you. Similarly, your friends may think the women you find above average aren't. It is what it is. But, it's also true tons of dudes chase the same kind of top-tier women. All that said, I disagree with the framing of the title a bit. If your friends have what we might define as extremely high standards they also intrinsic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:07 AM
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Oh I completely agree that it is, generally, easier for women to just be single in the sense that it is generally easier for them to be genuinely content. And I don't disagree that for a lot of guys "existing" is good enough. I just wish it wasn't that way and I think it's just better for everyone in general to have better standards. I get why that is not easy, but as a fellow dude I want my dudes to find people that add to their lives. This baseline of "exist" being the minimum just feels like …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:51 PM
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Ah, a fellow "I'm intrigued but don't want to mess up my algorithm" traveler. I see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:48 PM
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I like the specificity of "Kindle erotica". I recently read one of those Vella things just to get the monthly bookmark achievement even though I don't usually. It was.... something. And after some perusal that seems to be the entirety of the category they call "Vella".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:14 PM
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Alright that actually is worse, IMHO. I used to think about this when I was younger as a hormonal and confused disabled teen. Before I started getting into relationships, my brain kept telling me that even if I did, they'd never want to be seen with me publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:20 AM
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Encouraging words from strangers can be the difference between a bad and somewhat less bad day for a lot of people--I think it's great that you do that. To answer your question, I think it's really hard to say and different factors come into play for different dudes from different upbringings. But I think a lot of it really is just general cultural influences. Not all of it, but a lot of it. I say that because I've known people who grew up a certain way and then had quite a shift in views or val…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:18 AM
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This is true, and I say that as a dude and without any judgment on them as people. People we're not attracted to generally don't make it to our radars, men or women. This place does try to frame that in some kind of moralistic sense, but it's just normal human behavior. There's no malice on the part of the person who isn't going for/noticing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:13 AM
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Personally, I've occasionally told people they have a cool outfit or something, if the style looks interesting. I don't know that I've ever outright told any person I don't know anything unsolicited about their actual physical, non-sartorial apperance. Always felt a bit too invasive and is something that happened to me a lot as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:45 PM
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It also includes source material that contradicts the very premise, all by itself. It really is gold standard for this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:26 PM
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It is definitely closer to torturous mutilation than a corset for sure--good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:18 PM
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I think looking at current trends and then trying to apply them as a possible reason for why something else may have been done centuries ago is probably not the best approach. Particularly when all you're really going on here is very weak correlation. Tbf, I'd ask for at least some standard of proof going the other way about it being a measure for making women less mobile, though I'd be lying if I said it would surprise me to find that was the case given how not only restrictive but painful it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:30 PM
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I'm a bit biased as someone who likes this but I do think it is powerful for a lot of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:11 AM
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This is nice. My partner also does this kind of thing a lot because she's just quicker than me due to some mobility issues of mine, so she's always jumping up to make the tea or get a snack or do some other menial or nice thing. It does have it's own sort of romance to it. I have to be almost sneaky about it if I want to be the one to bring her the tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:52 AM
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I don't really have a good personal definition of "romance." I just know it when I see it. I think a lot of what romance is in the view of the receiver more so than the person who is "trying to be romantic." For example, If my partner is cuddly or says something nice or plans an event or outing with me in mind, she may not necessarily see that as some kind of romantic gesture but I could very well interpret that as her being romantic. I think romance can be big or small, and my definition, if I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:42 AM
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I think (or at least hope) that the average man has at least average standards. What precisely that means can differ from one person to another. Your list strikes me as a dude personally as "extremely basic" standards, to put it mildly. There are a lot of guys here who are convinced that average men cannot afford standards. I disagree with this and think what they are describing, whether they will admit it or not, are below-average dudes. This does not in any way mean that I think you will be fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:59 PM
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