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Question For MenGooseneckRoad/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:59 PM
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I don't think it's deceptive, and most importantly I don't think it's often used with that purpose in mind. For the vast majority of women, it's neither sustainable nor safe to try to deceive men about their looks, except MAYBE in the case of a very brief hookup. Men are going to see what we look like, and we know that. If you try to hide your natural looks through extraordinary measures over an extended period, you're just risking the guy flipping out on you when he sees the "real" you. This ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:38 AM
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On paper a solely fault-based system seems equal, but practically, it wouldn't be in many cases. Almost 20% of married women in the US are housewives who don't make money independently (which is the type of marriage a lot of people who dislike no fault divorce advocate for the most), so if they had to prove in court a reason why they need to leave their marriage, how would they do that without funds? They wouldn't have the resources, and they could be in danger which takes even more resources to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:55 PM
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I don't know much about the Red Pill, but aren't the popular strategies still a form of attracting/chasing women? Do red pill guys make a lot of money/improve their looks/etc. so that women approach them, or so women accept them when the guy approaches?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:36 PM
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No, just a hypothetical example of legislation that would make it harder for women to leave a marriage than men. But historically, divorce law has been pretty unequal- like in 19th century England, men could divorce on the grounds of adultery while women couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:24 PM
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Other than empirical evidence of happiness, it also depends on one's belief in equal human rights, which women haven't always had in most countries and still don't in many. If someone doesn't believe there should be no-fault divorce for women for example, they don't believe women should have the same rights as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:18 PM
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I agree, I always thought the same thing about the "alpha widow" concept because it just doesn't ring true about me or the women I know. Not that that's an objective sample, but I just don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:11 AM
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If you don't love your partner, maybe. If you do, it probably just feels like you're betraying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:59 PM
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Men Yes I'd consider an overweight guy Yes I'd consider an obese guy The reason being, it's very difficult to find someone I'm compatible with, and compatibility is the major thing I care about. I'm not slim either, so who am I to judge? Why would I squander a chance with a really good person just because he's not in shape? Also I don't find heavier people unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:14 PM
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I think a lot of people are in the same boat, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's easy for people who are fulfilled by their hobbies/work/pets/etc. to say you should follow that path too, but that's not everyone's purpose. I'd say, if being in a relationship and whatever comes with that is your purpose, you have to keep pursuing it. AND of course, don't hang your hat on anything in life bringing you happiness without you working on cultivating happiness within yourself (regardless of anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:05 PM
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I think it's generally true that men are more accepting of neurodivergence than women. But neurodivergent men and women are socialized SO differently, one can compare mildly autistic men and women and realize they have very little in common and can't communicate with each other (a lot of the time). Parents do their neurodivergent sons a huge disservice by not socializing them enough and not challenging them. Usually, girls have to adapt, to a certain extent, because it's required of them by thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:54 AM
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I've ghosted a lot of people, so I'd probably just stick to that and skip the form.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:55 AM
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Just as manipulative? No. There's only so far you can get with trying to look different before the guy figures it out. You can wear a bunch of makeup and Spanx to look good for a date, but once all of that comes off (because it has to eventually), he's going to see the truth. A man can act like someone else, totally pull the wool over everyone's eyes, and walk a woman down the aisle before the mask slips. They can be married for a while before the mask slips. Yeah a woman can do that too, but wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:46 PM
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Yes, without knowing him, I'm positive that I can't tell what any given man is looking for. You can't even say he wants to find someone who's nice, what if he's exclusively attracted to jerks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:54 AM
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I don't really know other than I looked older and may have had my guard up more by that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:16 AM
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At 10 the public harassment started which was mostly guys shouting at me, following me if I was walking down the street (it didn't matter who I was with) and making creepy comments. It stopped by the time I was about 16 or 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:17 AM
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Being emotionally responsive and empathetic is a good thing to most people. I'd say anger issues, narcissism (like the actual disorder, not hyperbole), and violence are the biggest weaknesses a man could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:08 AM
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Literally no one would ever have a reason to be afraid of me- I look like a jolly midwestern kindergarten teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:12 PM
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Insecurity isn't unattractive per se, but it does demonstrate that a guy has unresolved issues with his self-image, which could then imply even more important unresolved issues. It's not a red flag, but it can be a signal of disharmony depending on how much it bothers the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:40 AM
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5/10 all day, I'd NEVER choose a risky guy and could not give less of a shit that he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:39 PM
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Many people are fine being unpartnered and get their fulfillment from friends & family. Community is necessary for humans- I think no matter how much of an introvert you are, complete solitude will drive you crazy and kill you. But I can identify with the many people (frequently women) who don't really care about a romantic or sexual partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:50 PM
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a mid woman like Margot Robbie eeehwhat?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:46 PM
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Well, I think there's not nearly enough info to know, and his appearance doesn't really explain anything because like you said, he's a normal, good-looking guy. One prominent reason for a wife to lose attraction (not necessarily permanently) is resentment- a lot of the time, it could be something like she's feeling parentified, he's not pulling his weight with house chores, she wants more conversation between them, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:48 PM
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Mostly agree- the rich having undue power is the biggest problem. I don't think it changes the fact that men (in general) have more power and economic leverage than women, currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:54 AM
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Age and goals should play a factor. Yeah a dinner date is mostly expected if you're 30 and planning on finding a husband within a couple of years. But a coffee date is very appropriate for two 21 year olds making the time between college classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:51 AM
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The US is still a patriarchy. Men hold the most power in society and control most of the economy. Things are becoming more equal in many ways for women in the US, and I think phenomenon like abortion bans and growing misogyny online are just a death knell for the old way of thinking (it is significant, and does effect women negatively, but I think it's fleeting).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:38 AM
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Even if you knew all the physics and science you could grasp, it probably wouldn't answer many questions about one's place in the world, purpose, or the philosophy of existence and humanity. Religion does extrapolate on those sorts of questions- it's also a familial and cultural anchor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:39 PM
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I don't think the will to stay in love or stay bonded often lasts. Convictions and beliefs are stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:58 AM
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Ok yes, all of these things are good, but religious and/or Christian men need to first and most importantly SUBMIT to God. Some prop themselves up, or prop treacherous men up as pseudo gods and prophets. Man is not the "alpha", women aren't beneath them- humans are just dirt to God.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:37 AM
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Yes, and here sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:42 PM
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I agree. Marriage is 3 things in society, some of which go together- a religious institution, sometimes even a sacrament (in some beliefs) ; a legal institution where couples benefit from tying their assets etc together ; and an expression of love & commitment. What could make each reason fall apart? The emotional expression- just falling out of love or no longer being willing to commit. The legal institution- the lack of perceived gain from being legally married. And the religious institution- …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:40 PM
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I usually don't think about men being attractive/unattractive unless they interact with me for a time. They're just neutral, fellow people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:26 PM
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I agree. I think for the most part Autistic men need community, ideally one that isn't on the internet. Most people could benefit from an actual irl support system, but that's so hard to find right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:42 PM
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Slightly unrelated and kind of irrelevant since I'm a straight woman, but my hot take is 4 is more attractive than 3. They both have probably about the same BMI, same frame, same athletic ability, one just had a lot more plastic surgery and the lipo/tummy tuck looks pretty shoddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:48 PM
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Yeah I've experienced this a ton with random men- usually those middle aged and older. They believe they're entitled to women's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:59 PM
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At least women don't mass murder because they aren't getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:10 AM
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Lmao but that's the point- guys seem to think that this type of man is undateable and he's just not. A not insignificant amount of women would go out with him if he had just a few good qualities. Not undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:44 PM
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Maybe, but I'd go out with a 5'2", bald, recessed-jaw, autistic guy if he was really nice and made a good amount of money. Throw in a little bit funny, just for good measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:24 PM
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No, I'm pretty reserved, but maybe someday
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:37 PM
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I've never had any male interest, never even been asked on a date, and I'm not freaking out and crying about it. *ncels can just chill out lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:23 PM
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I agree with the other commenters, I assume the phrase means "sex you don't really want that doesn't benefit you in any way". It's a transactional application probably used by women who aren't that into sex (which is some women).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:01 AM
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Andrew Tate's just a dude with a public record of degenerate behavior. I feel for the guys that follow him. I don't know how advisable atheism is, but if it leaves some young men vulnerable to follow people like him, that seems rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:01 AM
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You should work on your judgement and humble yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:50 AM
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Return to religion/reject atheism/don't blaspheme
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:46 AM
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I feel horrible for the guys who believe that AT is anything but an awkward man with a lot of personal flaws. This is who men in modern times turn to when religion starts to decline, and it's seriously degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:31 AM
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Ey based.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:50 PM
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Prefer bi guys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:45 PM
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Yeah I suppose a lot of plus size women are pretty. Usually the same standard as thin women- they're pretty if they're well-dressed and have striking hair/face/makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:56 AM
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All I know is -Coercion is NOT consent -Any party is free to say "no" at any time -If someone doesn't respect "no" at any time, they're committing rape
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:48 AM
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It's strange because all of those girls are insanely pretty and have a very specific uncommon body type that other women their size might not have. If they lost a little weight, they would probably lose it proportionally given the way they look as heavier women. The guys dissing them or saying they are not attractive just read as fully delusional. I get you can't control what you're attracted to...but like check your hormone levels or something, guys, because something may be wrong with you, phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:44 AM
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I suppose height? but can't really say I care about either if I'm honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:44 AM
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More men should express themselves however they want- just carry some pepper spray like women do if anybody tries to mess with you. Society shouldn't tell you how to be, it's your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:51 AM
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I agree, just on Reddit (for example) I see men say the most horrible shit about fat women, and I see next to nothing coming from women deriding fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:41 AM
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What actions (just curious)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:24 PM
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I don't know, I think that a man not responding to words is a man who doesn't respect his SO enough to listen. That type of guy is not worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:34 AM
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Although it's slightly older now, a Study from 2013 cited primarily family structure as the cause for the disparity in achievement between boys and girls. I don't see evidence for institutional discrimination in K-12 yet. However, there does seem to be a behavior gap based on disciplinary action and suspension data for boys that is widening- it could be due to many things, but it seems family structure and demographics are very much a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:50 PM
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Well according to PEW Reaserch women began enrolling in higher education at an increased rate because their new labor force participation benefitted from having a degree. It was only wise for women to invest in their educations as they became more independent (from about the 1960s on). But I'm wondering about why K-12 is supposedly designed for girls and hampers boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:31 PM
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A K-12 school system that is designed for girls and either attacks or ignores boys How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:18 PM
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I agree, there's some research from the past few years that indicates that unmarried women without kids are happier and healthier than married women, on average (mostly UK and US).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:52 AM
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Weirdly they want trad women but seem to have no interest in being trad men. Like the Steven Crowder thing- he's demanding that his pregnant wife do chores for him rather than caring for her or being reasonable. Manchild stuff, all women deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:02 AM
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Absolutely, the men in my life are some of the most inspiring people I can imagine and the best example of what being a man should be. My Dad, my brother, and my grandfather are my heroes each in a unique way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:15 AM
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Having a relationship or a family makes men seem prosocial and well-rounded. It's the same for women after, I don't know, like late 30s who have never been married- they're seen as uncooperative and potentially not integrated into society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:40 PM
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I don't know why men think women are getting complimented all the time. Best I get is occasional harassment, meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:34 PM
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That makes a lot of sense, thanks for clarifying and even though it's definitely not your responsibility to educate NT and/or non-Autistic people, I appreciate it because I don't want to misrepresent anybody!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:36 AM
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Admittedly, I don't know everything about Autism, but I don't see the connection between what women on PPD say and signs of Autism. If anything, I find Redpill men have more signs- like take Andrew Tate: he's got extremely black and white social thinking, he doesn't seem to understand subtlety when it comes to women (I'm sure most of that is just the undiluted misogyny), and he gamifies other people/social interactions like he's writing some kind of bizarre rulebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:13 AM
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I feel like talking to people in public could build confidence, which is good, but when men approach women, the dynamic is different than a man just talking to an unfamiliar man. Women often don't feel safe around unfamiliar men, so they may not feel safe to "reject" the conversation for fear that the man might retaliate (something a HUGE amount of women have experienced). And then, you're pretty much trapped until you can come up with an excuse, which is not a good feeling, especially if you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:54 AM
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I would encourage men not to cold approach- it's not welcome, I promise you. Mind your business, that goes for men and women. Side note, from a US perspective, nerdy/scared men have been stereotypically pretty dangerous, from serial killers to mass murderers. Not saying they are or that they should be, just that the reputation of that type of guy can be seen as sketchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:18 AM
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I mean, a lot of that sounds really relatable, as a woman. Especially the part about being somewhat repulsed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:00 AM
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Ok I agree about the procreation bit, but can't we just encourage queer people to have kids? I think many families with lgbtq+ parents have amazing values and can impart societally helpful qualities onto their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:40 PM
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I think it's a lot of things, but it could be because society hasn't prioritized teaching boys emotional intelligence. Girls are expected to understand how they impact other people from a very young age, and to change their behavior to make others feel at-ease. Boys have had the opposite situation in the past, where they're left to their own devices and forced to be emotionally independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:37 AM
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I would guess at least half. There are a lot of men who can't/won't consider that their personality or their attitude (towards women, but also just in general) is the main problem. There are so, so many socially awkward men out there who don't seem to realize how awkward they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:24 AM
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No person can make another act a certain way- we are only in control of ourselves. If a man is not happy in a relationship, he can choose to communicate or leave. There is no excuse for taking your feelings out on your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:50 AM
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That case was a huge mess, yeah. The evidence definitely suggested that both of them were physically/verbally abusive towards each other and had the complication of alcohol and drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:50 AM
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Yeah lot of marriages end for reasons that have nothing to do with abuse in which both people contributed to the dissolution of the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:46 AM
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Yup, it's unfortunate, but it's a reality a lot of women face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:40 AM
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Well, Hilary claimed that he had been emotionally and verbally abusing her for years, and the video does show his manipulative and abusive behavior, so I'm inclined to believe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:36 AM
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Seems OK, but what is it all for? What about when you're old/dying? What about your legacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:01 AM
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To be honest, I look like a taller, imo uglier version of the 2nd girl and I have severe PCOS so I have some horrible visual side effects from that, but I understand the point you're trying to make. It's that a few guys on the internet did try to get those women's attention, which is all well and good but it doesn't have a lot to do with the everyday experience of being that woman. Being this kind of woman means you get treated pretty badly, just like an ugly guy is treated, I would think. The h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:46 AM
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Lmao well I'm an unattractive woman and have been on 0 dates and 0 guys have expressed interest in me irl. Could I get more attractive if I tried? Yeah, maybe. But any truly unattractive person understands the politics between pretty people vs ugly people. The point is, if you don't look good, people will treat you like you're invisible (at best, usually).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:46 AM
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Sexuality is a spectrum that can change at various times in your life. You can be bi with a slight preference towards women when you're 20 and then not feel comfortable being with guys anymore when you're 50, for example. Some people are more fluid on the spectrum, and their sexuality can change a lot, as where some hit puberty and only liked women and continued to only like women until they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:15 AM
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Uh, yes because I don't know him yet. If we'd been dating for a while, it might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:27 AM
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I second this!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:05 AM
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I definitely like men less in general and trust them much less after familiarizing myself with TRP and PPD. There's something so off about many men in the West these days, I wish I could help them, but it isn't in my interest to get involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:21 AM
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Yes, they're seriously disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:17 PM
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I don't want a guy with money, but what I do want is his money. It's not a turn on at all, but I am definitely going to act like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:14 AM
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Fat people in general face a lot of scorn in society from mockery and discrimination to more serious mistreatment like being offered fewer job opportunities compared to similarly qualified people who are average weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:58 PM
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I was figuring it was an asymmetrical pairing where the active guy tries to include his heavier girlfriend in his workouts/diet plan in order to encourage her to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:52 PM
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Seems fine to me as long as there would be no hard feelings if it didn't work out. I like that it comes from a place of encouragement rather than shaming because A. It's cruel, fat women have it hard enough and B. Fat shaming doesn't usually work and often causes further weight gain. I doubt most fat people would be offended if their SO encouraged them to get fit and healthy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 06:31 AM
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As far as what I want in a relationship- Wants: Empathetic, cares about me, is relatively self-sufficient and can support a family, preferably Christian, not judgemental Don't care: Height, weight, race, career, hobbies (as long as they're not really dangerous), & he probably won't be good looking because I'm certainly not. Deal breakers: Bigot, extremely Conservative, too high libido for me, criminality, drug/alcohol problems, signs of abusive personality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 06:05 AM
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See I think that's such a good start- breaking it down like that and starting with your family's beliefs. Then figuring out what things really mean on a factual basis. I learned that strategy of fact-checking when I first started Cognitive Behavioral Therapy which is a very proven method of helping with "cognitive dissonance" or thought processes that may not be helpful or logical. There's a lot about it online, too, which might be worth looking up!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:12 AM
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I think you could ask yourself some questions about what being a "slut" means in order to rationalize some things in your mind. Some starter questions might be something like: Who is considered a slut? What qualities do they have? What are the LITERAL implications of those qualities? What might be the personal agenda of others labeling another person a slut? I used to have a similar mindset about people who might be labeled "sluts". I used to think they were immoral or irreparably flawed, but wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:02 AM
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I don't want/care to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:30 PM
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Ok, whatever y'all need to tell yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:01 AM
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It's 0 and I would say 0
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:14 AM
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Yes! There are a lot of personal complications (physical/mental health, education, career) that I have to sort out before I have kids, though, so I'll probably be over 30 before I actually can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:40 AM
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Hey no I certainly get it- it's still not hard to make your own choices for yourself and discount whatever your hormones want you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:52 AM
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So humans kind of buck that by choosing whether or not it's beneficial for them to reproduce. If you choose not to reproduce and that has adverse health effects, I guess that would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:37 AM
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It causes health issues if you don't have sex? That's medically pretty interesting, I'll look into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:32 AM
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Why is being sexless unhealthy or personally harmful? No one's getting hurt, dying, or being emotionally abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:25 AM
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Maybe 1 or 2. You can be decently educated without a degree. I think common sense and good values are more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:45 AM
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This isn't 100% addressing the question so I'll put it here, but women don't take offense to being called "overly emotional" because emotionality is considered bad in society. It's because saying "you're just emotional" or "you're just on your period" is dismissive of women's experience/opinions/feelings. It's like if women said, "It's just the testosterone" when men get legitimately angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:33 PM
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I don't personally think menstrual leave should give women more paid or unpaid time off than anyone else who needs sick time for predictable health problems. If a man was similarly incapacitated like a woman who has severe period pain, he's owed that time. That's kind of how it works for any working person with a disability- some people need health accommodations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:27 AM
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This is a workers' rights issue. People are so brainwashed into thinking work has to be this cutthroat, productivity-at-all-costs thing- that's some Elon Musk fuckery. Employers should serve the employees as much as the employees serve the company- people sacrifice their precious time and agree to work for a company, it's a basic respect issue to give them the benefits they are owed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:42 AM
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If a woman is looking for a relationship and the guy she's dating doesn't want to commit, the standard thing to do is just move on. Nobody owes anyone anything and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:35 AM
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I think younger women who are attracted to older men usually like things about them other than looks- maturity, stability, status, more self-esteem, more money. I don't know how common it is for young women to be attracted to older men based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 11:41 PM
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There have been quite a few good on-the-ground reporters, mostly from mid 2022. NBC News was meh because I really don't like Richard Engel who seems like a major propagandist, bit there were BBC correspondents from Germany, Poland, and the UK who had some invaluable pieces. Also surprising was some really good coverage by CNN and Eastern European correspondents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:07 AM
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Yes that stat is only based on a survey of refugee intentions- the future circumstances could be completely different for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:57 AM
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Mmm could we call all countries with a free press "one side"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:51 AM
7

What about the journalism that's been done on the war? Yeah, there's sometimes spin, but what Ukraine has accomplished is nothing to sneeze at.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:44 AM
12

Uh voluntary or not, they are very heroic for defending their country. Men who evade conscription are just doing what they can to survive, which is an understandable choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:41 AM
7

The odds definitely seemed to be against them, regardless of aid. If Ukrainians didn't believe in their cause, wouldn't they have lost long ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:35 AM
9

It blows my mind that anyone would voluntarily enlist in the military, especially when they'll face combat. No one should be compelled to fight- that's crazy, the draft shouldn't be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:33 AM
2

I'm sure there are Ukrainian deserters, and it's not right that men can't legally leave Ukraine as refugees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:30 AM
13

Ukranian soldiers don't seem that misanthropic- they care about their ancestors and their history, they want to protect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:20 AM
21

Only 8% of Ukranian refugees don't plan to return to their country after the war, but nonetheless, heroically saving your country from a maniac who wants your culture destroyed is WAY more important than having possibly fewer women to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:11 AM
10

I don't know, even having more examples (which we don't know this hypothetical woman can't back up) also might not be a good sample size to make sweeping generalizations. It's not scientific either way, which I personally don't think is a bad thing- anecdotal is anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:57 AM
18

Yeah that pretty pervasive thing of men here accusing women of lying is so weird...somebody doesn't want their worldview challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:48 AM
21

Well it's definitely anecdotal, but disingenuous and bad faith? Anecdotal evidence is what most men go off of here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:40 AM
20

Ok, if a man says "women do x" as a generalization, then how is "I don't do x and I don't know any other women who do x" not a defense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:26 AM
3

I'll talk to whom I want to talk to, boy. Also, I want to fuck Buster Keaton and most of the Ru Paul's Drag Race contestants hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:17 AM
2

Seems like a good, balanced relationship! I prefer much more feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:18 PM
2

No. Not a very high drive though, admittedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:45 AM
27

You forgot the leerers, the stalkers, the dick pics, taking your tazer with you on a walk, constantly being on guard and looking over your shoulder, being harassed by strangers, people making snap judgements about you...etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:21 AM
17

I don't think any man or person has ever turned me on by sight alone lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:14 AM
2

I agree, and yes women feeling trapped or cultural pressure might color why arranged marriages are seemingly successful on paper. But, I don't think modern arranged marriages have to be that way- they could still be a good option if women have more agency and independence in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:50 AM
2

Maybe some were, maybe some weren't but the marriages usually seemed to work anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:10 PM
8

I love it, we should bring back marriages of convenience for family and social reasons. Fuck attraction, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:20 PM
6

Seems fine to me- if you have enough support in your life, I don't know why single motherhood is so bad. If I had the money, I'd be a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:14 PM
3

Nice, I appreciate this post. TRP is very often baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:14 PM
4

Being a female at a 70% male university sounds like hell. Guys don't know what a shit show that would be for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:09 PM
1

In this situation, I wouldn't care about anything that went on in his past relationship. Seems to me he just got better at spending his money wisely and became more secure in himself. I don't want expensive gifts anyway, but that's not really the point. Fact is, people change and his behavior towards others has nothing to do with me. Now, if he was still in LOVE with his ex, that would obviously be a problem, but otherwise, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:03 PM
1

In that way, I guess no, a lot of women don't understand men. That's the problem with men and women- we each want the other to be something we're not (a lot of the time). Men who care mostly about appearance kind of make me sick, and that's often the nature of men. We can't impose traits into others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:42 PM
11

There are endless reasons to be moral! Better relationships, self-actualization, religious reasons, inner peace, helping others, being just ect. Much more functional state.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:31 AM
18

HAHAHAHAHAHA what a crock. Men just don't want to be held to any standard of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:52 AM
15

I'd never marry a non-virgin man for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:37 AM
24

Men don't seem very happy- they don't get sex/a relationship and they literally go insane instead of just handling it like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:14 AM
21

Agree for irl, but I just want to say that women on this particular sub are usually trying to be brutally honest and not sugarcoat things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:08 PM
13

Whoa. So the only thing holding back a lot of guys from committing violence is getting laid? Yikes that makes men seem completely out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:33 AM
1

None. I don't care for the "Chad" look- I don't care about height and I like regular sized guys without muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:23 PM
3

I can see a lot of reasons potentially hidden beneath the surface there, though. A lot of them have to do with the young woman being more impressionable, having less agency, and being more likely to see an older man as an authority figure. That stuff is very present and can mess young people up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:57 AM
5

Yeah that's what I meant- fiction definitely does sway some women into having unrealistic expectations, and so does porn for men (and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:52 AM
1

Bruh creepy old pervs with money and fame are still creepy old pervs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:35 AM
3

It seems like porn geared towards men (which a lot of women also consume) and romantic fiction geared towards women both have a chicken-or-the-egg thing going on. Porn might reflect what men want initially while at the same time informing them of what to look for. I think there are men who expect things about porn to be reality as much or more so than women who think Christian Grey is at all like a real guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:34 AM
-1

Do you even know what a patriarchy is? The US has never had a female president, almost 70% of CEOs are men, women earn 20% less than men in the same position...blahblahblah it's obvious that men are still the dominant power in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:15 AM
-1

Women don't like it because they remember all the creeps and pervert goblins who tried to prey on them when they were 19. You don't have good judgment at that age, your brain isn't fully formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:11 AM
4

The patriarchy is undeniable- that's like saying racism isn't real or something. You're just defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:05 AM
5

Agree x1000 Everybody needs to hear this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:12 PM
2

I'm a feminist and I endorse this message.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:54 PM
9

Well, I certainly wouldn't have kids with a man who didn't understand this. There are guys out there who wouldn't attempt to use me for free labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:32 AM
8

ITT: Men confused about 50/50. The gender who claims to be better at math, everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:08 AM
13

It's the norm for both parents to work for financial reasons now. If both parents split the household & children duties, it would be doable, but the majority of men either half-ass it or refuse to. Seems like men need to pick up the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:24 AM
13

Would you trade working a full-time job for working a full-time job AND working 24/7 to take care of children and a household?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:04 AM
4

Lmao you gotta do what you gotta do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:21 AM
10

You have to do and say things to make the guy feel like he is confident and in control. Other people in the thread are correct- laughing at jokes, touching on the arm, compliments, behaving like you admire him, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:16 AM
2

Yes that's true for a lot of relationships- people get involved just because they like the way someone looks. That sounds like awfully shaky ground. I am against divorce, personally, because of religious convictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:11 AM
2

Yeah I agree about the behavior part. If your personality changes over the course of a relationship, that could definitely mess things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:05 AM
3

You can't force attraction...what even is attraction? That's not what people say love is about in the long run. I don't think it's your fault for not being able to see past appearance, but it might be something to question, existentially, you never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:04 AM
8

It's just an opinion, but I don't think it's reasonable. SIDE NOTE, would it really be true love if someone considered ending things just because their partner gained weight or looked different? That sounds like a farce of a relationship if there ever was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:08 AM
–

Wait, how is that related to conservatives? Just because it seems like something they might advocate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:48 AM
2

Pfffft obviously take the money! I'd accept that offer for a lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:49 AM
13

Not saying she is, but I think a lot of guys would have no idea if a woman was playing them...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:35 AM
2

Hey sign me up, that sounds kinda great in every way!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:29 AM
1

Nah nah you've got to be fine with having sex with him because you're in love with him, it has to be real. Yeah it's getting married for money, but that can't be why the marriage actually lasts. And if you get divorced and take half his stuff, that's just being a swindler- not cool or responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:28 AM
1

I don't know- I don't feel sexual attraction at all. Maybe it's like if I enjoy someone's personality and want to get to know them better?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:17 AM
1

Before cultivating actual love, yes. But you've got to fall in love for real for it to work, which isn't that hard it just takes some time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:24 AM
1

Both men and women can learn to love someone they don't find attractive, but they have to have good enough motivating factors. On top of that, there need to be motivations to stay in the relationship for an extended period. I would marry an 80 year old paraplegic man without hesitation if he was a multimillionaire, but wouldn't go out of my way to fall in love with him if he didn't have the money vouching for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:10 AM
3

Just in general, no, I don't care for men very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:26 PM
2

I could tell someone to jump off a bridge, and it still wouldn't be my fault if they decided to do it. We all make our own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:01 AM
3

People aren't responsible for others' actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:45 PM
3

Uh but wearing whatever you want isn't doing anything "wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:33 PM
10

Do what you will with this information, but you are the terror. You specifically. If you can reconcile that within yourself, which it seems you can, that would be best for the stability of your psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:25 AM
14

The role of women before feminism, however important, was almost entirely defined by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:01 AM
17

This isn't true. A lot of negative experiences women have with men come from random interactions by strangers in public places. Even as kids, women are approached, harassed, and otherwise bothered by ill-behaved men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:57 PM
10

Men were the only leaders. Political leaders, bosses, heads of the household. They made all of the decisions while women had to go along with them on the sidelines. Things are beginning to even out in recent history- although equality is not guaranteed for women, it is the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:49 PM
18

I think it's kind of an outlook thing on the part of men- they used to be automatically the most important gender and had some level of control over women. Now they don't as much, and it feels like injustice when it's just society reaching equilibrium.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:44 PM
6

This actually does apply to me, I don't care about sex and I don't care about men. The brutally honest answer (for me) is: I like money and resources and men can give that to me with not that much effort on my part. I don't think this applies to all women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:20 PM
5

No, I think the reason some marriages are sexless is not usually because of those factors. I do agree that it's often the wife's decision, but it seems like issues like fluctuating hormones, lack of equity in the marriage, and emotional problems are more often the culprit. Women aren't nearly as interested in sex as men are, and also don't cheat as frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:57 AM
11

The society that supposedly oriented women "better" was one where women were more oppressed and had fewer rights. Women were never more traditional- feminism didn't change women's minds, It just opened new doors for women to be independent. That may feel pretty bad for men, but it's just because women and men are on more equal footing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:41 AM
16

Women are not a burden on men, studies have shown after getting married, men's happiness usually continues to increase and for women, their happiness trends downward. If men found women to be a burden, you wouldn't see so many incels losing their minds because women aren't interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:05 AM
21

Exactly, I totally agree with this. If women are doing more than men, how is a man beneficial if he just creates more work? That doesn't sound like a problem with women, that's a problem with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:45 AM
2

I think women get defensive when a guy asks them their n-count because that's a socially awkward question. They don't need to lie, they also don't really want to answer because that's super intrusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:27 AM
2

No that's my point- women will never need to lie about this because the men who care make no difference to their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:21 AM
2

Everyone is a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:04 AM
9

The day women start to give a shit about what random men care about will be the day we start to just lie to you about our n-count lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:00 AM
0

I don't think the majority of people would agree with this, but I kind of do. Is monogamy really how men are supposed to be, evolutionarily? I wouldn't care one bit if my partner wanted to be in an open relationship- he can have sexual flings if he wants, I'm not into it for myself, but he can do whatever as long as it doesn't affect me or my health.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:36 AM
5

Late 20s, rural PNW. I see a lot of couples that are matched, but many have a fit man and a heavier woman. I assume it's because a lot of the men out here are laborers and the women have more sedentary jobs. Appearance-wise and economically they still seem mostly matched in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 12:10 AM
4

I feel bad for other women who believe that the bar is in hell. I would never date anyone who isn't a functioning adult, and these stories are an admission of dating a childish loser, unfortunately. Do not date an incompetent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:41 PM
1

Well, no problem fella, I'm glad you found a better place to call home!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:03 AM
1

I don't really remember- I used to be on FDS a lot and must've seen some people posting here too. I don't subscribe to any of the blahblahblahwhateverpill thinking, I just find it interesting where some mens' heads are at. Frankly, I keep coming back because a lot of guys on here have opinions that are so bad and incorrect that I can't help but watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:42 AM
1

If a woman can prove a man is an active jerk, wouldn't it behoove her to warn others?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:36 PM
3

No I don't see why he isn't good looking as is- he's just a normal looking dude, and I'm normal looking, so that's what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:39 PM
5

Personally, I think he's 100% attractive and if I had the chance, I'd marry someone exactly like him. He's understanding, calm, but still a capable person with common sense. I think he has a type of masculinity that's DESPERATELY in demand for a lot of women. What's not to be attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:08 PM
1

I think upbringing and parents have more of an impact on future attraction/relationships than most other factors. Like in my upbringing, both my parents and my grandparents showed zero romantic affection at all- no hugging, kissing, holding hands. They also would never be caught dead talking about anything romantic or heaven forbid sexual- all of that was deemed "inappropriate" and something to be avoided. So if you'd guess that me and my siblings are especially uncomfortable with sex and relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:33 AM
1

Yes and that might be why most RP men seem to be white. Having at least some adversity gives people more perspective on what it means to experience unfair treatment, not that discrimination is ever a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:30 AM
2

Creepy = pushy, awkward, vulgar
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:16 AM
19

The Gillette outlook is right- most women don't want to be approached when they're going about their business. When men don't flirt with me, I don't assume that they wouldn't be interested in me, I just figure they're normal. If a guy flirts with me in what feels like an actually welcome context and he isn't creepy, then that's all good whether or not I'm interested. And no, an unattractive guy coming on to me does not automatically make him threatening like that one meme implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:35 PM
4

Uhhh but what about women who aren't submissive? Why would they care about dominance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:05 PM
2

I used to have a friend group where the other girls did this to our 2 guy friends (gay and straight), and I really think it's a toxic dynamic. What kind of friend ditches another just because of their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:37 PM
3

So yeah, the sex is going to get better anyway over some time. Seems like a win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:30 AM
6

I don't see the problem with this- don't wanna be creepy but virgin guys are sexy 🤷🏼‍♀️ I guess a good chunk of women just feel like they have a better chance of getting off with an experienced man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:27 AM
33

Dude...that breaks my heart and although she probably means well, I think that's too much pressure from your Mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:02 AM
1

I kind of disagree, I think kindness and decency is the bare minimum for any guy (any person for that matter too). Sure a guy can be technically attractive, he has 0 points if he's not a good guy. He doesn't start with a higher baseline of consideration if he's a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:40 AM
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I think being a loner is okay. I'm a loner too, so who am I to judge? I can usually tell if a guy has acceptable social skills (despite maybe being shy) by the way he interacts with me and around family. Just being polite and mostly functional is perfectly alright- not having friends doesn't mean someone's not great to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:09 AM
1

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/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:05 AM
1

Ayy nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:11 AM
1

I really hate that this is the truth for a lot of men, that seriously sucks and can wreck anybody's mental health. As a woman on the outside looking in, it seems like for men to thrive, society at large needs to reframe the way men are valued. I wish the public could see men for their emotions and introspection rather than just the "use" they bring to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:36 PM
5

The difference is not that women on here lie and Instagram/Facebook/etc. women are more truthful, it's that (generally) women on Reddit & more specifically this subreddit have different interests than those platforms. Instagram is for a huge chunk of people- it's very broad as far as the user base. This place is extremely niche by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:25 AM
1

That may not be a very good negotiating technique because if those men actually left, no one would notice they're gone. Doesn't seem bad to marry someone from a different country though- I feel like it's generally better to bring the foreign fiancé back to your home country than moving to the developing one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:55 PM
9

A man with a high n count is not attractive at all to me. A virgin is preferable to a slut. Edit- It's interesting to me that a couple people said this is just a straight up lie lmao?? Why would I do that, it's just a personal preference. If women have an opinion that doesn't line up with redpill presuppositions, guys are like "but according to my calculations this can't be!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:14 AM
1

That's so interesting. Would've never thought things like historical family region and the status of your siblings would play a big part in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:07 PM
2

Very possible, tbh I don't really know how arranged marriage markets work in other countries besides a couple YouTube videos on it. Do they ever outright deny somebody? Like, is anyone ever so bottom of the barrel that they can't even get a match? I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:56 PM
6

I don't think a lot of people would believe me, but it's honestly more about the duty to stay together in my eyes than it is the innate attraction or personality. My grandparents have a relationship like that- they're both very practical, mature people from an old fashioned culture who have devoted themselves to each other even though they aren't at all a "perfect" match. Love that kinda dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:52 PM
11

A for sure. It's sad that in Western countries, arranged marriage is no longer a thing, because that arrangement is really my dream. It's probably just because I'm very insecure, but I love the idea of getting to know my husband after the commitment has already been made. Dating and advertising yourself are so draining and hollow these days, a relationship is built on more than just sexual attraction and chemistry- it's a decision to stick by someone no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:06 AM
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