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It's also important that people understand that the Yanomamo were extreme outliers, not the "norm."
/r/MensRights21/10/17 08:27 AM
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Have you read R. Brian Ferguson on the Yanomamo? Just out of curiosity? And do you think men want to "oppress" women? That's a really important question.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 07:28 AM
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Indeed.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 05:55 AM
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It bothers me that this post only got 46 upvotes. Whereas posts about bathrooms on R/MensRights get thousands of upvotes and appear on R/all. I'm not trying to blame MRA's; I think bathroom politics are just much more relatable to the majority of posters. Though on the other hand, many MRA's don't even realize that boys in the West also suffer horrific injuries and in some cases even death due to MGM. Perhaps some men would rather not talk about it, since they themselves have been mutilated. I w…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 05:09 AM
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The number of boys maimed or killed by MGM must be vast. Strange that no authorities seem concerned about mountains of dead children.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 04:51 AM
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but it won't be MGTOW, that community is just insane, bitter, woman-hating, horribly angry or obsessed kids who will never see any kind of social acceptance for the shit they're saying now. That may well be true for the MGTOW's who post online, and I agree that they are often misogynistic (though fairly tame compared to the many celebrated feminist academics who advocated genocide against men and boys). But you have to remember that (I'm guessing) about 70 percent of "MGTOWs" have never even hea…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 04:50 AM
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Hey, I'm no fan of Clinton. She is human slime as far as I'm concerned -- an utterly degenerate war criminal and psychopath. Plus she's not even charming. I think more people should vote third party, and I literally don't care what that party is, even if it's the "Transcendental Yoga party". ;) Voting in the US and indeed most (all?) nations is basically "Who is going to harm me the least", not "who is going to improve things." The sickness of the system comes into stark relief when a politician…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 04:23 AM
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Again, agree entirely :)
/r/MensRights21/10/17 03:54 AM
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I'm more inclined to the view expressed by Camille Paglia in her discussion with Jordan Peterson. There is no "left" on modern college campuses. It's just spoiled brats competing for status via faux victimhood. The traditional "left" focus on class has been almost entirely eliminated, to the point where wealthy gender studies professors are lecturing poor white males who live in trailer parks about their alleged "privilege." This began in earnest when the left started to focus on feminism and id…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 03:45 AM
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Even within the confines of recent history what was categorized as abuse has changed exponentially. Absolutely and not always for the better (though sometimes for the better -- I think the Monognais-Naskapi tribe were right about not hitting children, it's unnecessary and teaches them the wrong lessons -- though I don't think a parent should be arrested if they flip their lid and spank their child in a fit of frustration; and obviously domestic violence in general should be opposed). But yeah, t…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 03:08 AM
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I was expecting hoverboards, flying cars, the end of poverty and war. Instead we have feminism and Donald Trump :(
/r/MensRights21/10/17 03:01 AM
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Many people are aware of second wave feminist misandry. I mean the founder of the first gender studies department (then called women's studies) literally advocated genocide against men. Comparatively few are aware of first wave feminist misandry. Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who organized the first feminist convention in the US, wrote in her diary that "we are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." That's in addition to literally blaming all of society's problems on men. So the problem was there fro…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:59 AM
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Ha!
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:53 AM
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Who cut down the trees? ;)
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:50 AM
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Good answer. I think the problem is that too many women have forgotten about the male contribution to society. They just view males as "oppressors" rather than "essential contributors." Camille Paglia talked about this in her discussion with Jordan Peterson: how surreal it is to see feminist professors constantly trashing men while living in buildings built entirely by men (often at the expense of their very lives: construction used to be extremely dangerous and still is to a certain extent), us…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:38 AM
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That's true and a good point. It's also interesting to note that different hunter-gatherer bands had very different ideas about the same issue. For example among the Inuit it was considered acceptable (though not encouraged) in certain circumstances for a man to hit his partner, whereas among the Apache such violence was prohibited. Similarly, among the Mbuti pygmies in the Congo corporal punishment of children was routine, whereas among the Monagnais-Naskapi in Ontario corporal punishment was n…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:21 AM
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There's a term for this in psychology, apart from the obvious one (raging hypocrite). Moral disengagement is a term from social psychology for the process of convincing the self that ethical standards do not apply to oneself in a particular context.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 01:17 AM
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A structure? Yes. Structure: anything composed of parts arranged together in some way. A building? All of its parts from raw materials to nails? I feel confident in saying no.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 12:45 AM
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There was an obese lesbian woman in the UK who accused 15 men of rape. She was only imprisoned after the 15th case. Beale’s first victim, Mahad Cassim, served two years and nine months in jail, while she received £11,000 in criminal injuries compensation following the alleged rape. The court heard that she went on to make a string of false allegations that took up 6,400 hours of police time and cost at least £250,000. Most lies began “impulsively” following drunken rows with girlfriends as she s…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 12:35 AM
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In the late 19th century feminists declared war on men*. The chickens are now coming home to roost. The only surprising thing is that it took so long. Since, in contrast to feminist theory, men have no desire to compete with (let alone "oppress") women, it took quite some time for men to start standing up for themselves. There were a few exceptions; the socialist Earnest Belford Bax wrote "The Fraud of Feminism" and "The Legal Subjugation of Men" in the early 20th century, but men have a much ha…
/r/MensRights21/10/17 12:10 AM
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If feminists have their way the entire Internet will become a safe space -- for feminists. Everyone else will be subject to censorship and persecution for "hate speech" (which will have an ever expanding definition, until feminists themselves are targeted in increasing numbers). This is already happening with the tech giants, though happily there seems to be a growing resistance to these authoritarian ideas. I just quoted the anarchist Bob Black in another thread. He made a chilling prediction b…
/r/MensRights20/10/17 11:41 PM
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"Gender studies" departments aka "irrational, propagandistic, revisionist history, anti-science, fake statistics, man-hating studies" should indeed be defunded. We wouldn't tolerate departments that blamed blacks or Jews for all of the world's problems. The fact that male tax payers are funding a lot of this garbage is obscene.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 11:27 PM
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The most disturbing part of the article is the conclusion: Boys being thought of as commodities The commercialisation of the practice was blamed for fostering licit schools. “Once we see our young people as money-making things that we can use and abuse in order for us to improve our bank accounts, the culture has stopped and something else has started,” Mkhwanazi-Xaluva told Health-e News. “Once people see this is as business, then it is like you are running a spaza shop – I open mine, you open …
/r/MensRights20/10/17 11:22 PM
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Of course it's possible. If I had to guess I'd say about ten percent of MRA's are either red pillers or incels. But as others have pointed out the only actual commonality between the three groups is a focus on men. It's a little like asking "Can you be a feminist and still read Cosmo?" Yes, yes you can. But I don't think "ten ways to get a great bikini body for summer!" has much to do with women's rights. The other issue is that the non-MRA portion of the manosphere -- in addition to often attac…
/r/MensRights20/10/17 08:34 PM
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They are spineless cowards and bigots.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 08:24 PM
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Pathetic.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 08:23 PM
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I think it's both, depending on the individual. Well educated feminists maliciously lie about the MRM, then the majority "coffee shop" feminists who have some wishy washy idea about "equality" assume they are telling the truth.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 08:23 PM
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I agree. First and second wave feminists had some legitimate complaints. However they failed to recognize that men also had legitimate complaints (Earnest Bax wrote about this in the early 20th century). From the very beginning they approached the issue of gender in entirely the wrong way -- painting women as helpless victims of male coercion and "oppression." Ironically, the reason they have been so successful is because men, far from wanting to oppress women, have a biological drive to protect…
/r/MensRights20/10/17 08:16 PM
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This needs to go viral.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 04:52 AM
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Apparently Schumaker inserted a scene where Haim would be naked in a bathtub.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 04:44 AM
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"Women's studies" was founded by a woman named Sailly Miller Gearhart who literally advocated genocide against men and boys. She coined the phrase "the future is female!" and thought that males should be reduced to ten percent of the population. As crazy as that sounds, it's true. Male tax payers fund a gargantuan, multi-billion dollar anti-male complex run by feminists who hate men and boys. Again, it sounds too bizarre and deranged to be true, but this is literally the society we're living in.…
/r/MensRights19/10/17 09:48 AM
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The director asked Haim to...well it's out there anyway.
/r/MensRights19/10/17 09:34 AM
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I dare you to watch the film "Lost Boys". It starts as a fun vampire film and quickly descends into pedophilia. Corey Haim was actually a really great actor imo. Check out the film "Lucas". He was abused and spat out by the Hollywood pedophile elite, and descended into drug abuse. Interesting that the annual ceremony at the Academy Awards neglected to mention Corey Haim and earlier River Phoenix. Those fucking assholes.
/r/MensRights19/10/17 07:40 AM
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Grow a pair. That's really all there is to it. Edit: you're suggesting that a mean comment should be enough to rob a man of his livelihood? Why didn't this bitch try talking to him? Are you really so flippant about reducing someone to poverty because he is uncouth? I used to work construction. We would say ten things ten times worse to each other every day before lunch. Most of it was ribbing, though it wasn't always. We didn't go run and tattle tale to the boss like a sniveling schoolgirl runni…
/r/MensRights19/10/17 05:35 AM
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Got that guys? "Stop being such pussies, man the fuck up and be vulnerable now." A deliciously ironic contradiction. I'm not sure it rises to the level of a paradox; paradoxes tend to be thought-provoking. The poor fools at MensLib cling to traditional gender roles like a drowning man to a lifeboat. Yet they simultaneously claim to be opposing gender roles (they are, to the extent that they oppose the idea of men receiving any respect or dignity; otherwise it's pretty much same old same old). It…
/r/MensRights19/10/17 05:31 AM
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I would encourage the feminist to watch some circumcision videos. Start with the mutilations in Africa where hundreds of boys are killed every year and move on to the "enlightened" west where boys sometimes have to have their penises removed after a botched procedure. And let's not forget the babies who develop STD's after some perverted Jewish extremist mohel licks blood from the baby's mutilated genitals. Mike Buchanan in the UK made the interesting argument that male MGM is already illegal be…
/r/MensRights19/10/17 05:19 AM
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This is a really interesting case. I'm married so obviously not a "MGTOW" but I sometimes peruse their boards to see just how (understandably) angry men are becoming under the gynocracy. Older MGTOW's often offer advice on dealing with women at work. The goal is to avoid conflict with women as well as romantic entanglements. In my twenties I had a female boss and she was best boss I ever had -- very flexible and understanding. However during the same decade I had the misfortune of working in all…
/r/MensRights19/10/17 04:59 AM
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Women could own property in the West. It was only when they decided to get married that property came under the ownership of the husband because he was responsible for her livelihood. If he failed to support her he could be imprisoned for abandonment. If she divorced him she could also own property (femme sole).
/r/MensRights18/10/17 05:21 AM
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Pretty much. The apparent goal of feminism is to reduce women to passive objects with no agency while placing all responsibilities on men. Yet we're simultaneously supposed to regard these feminists as strong independent women. It's madness.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 04:54 AM
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Apparently they had a camera linked to a TV in the kitchen so they could watch the boys suffering while eating and drinking Tea. In a sane world these bitches would have been executed. This is the pussy pass taken to a horrifying extreme.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 04:37 AM
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I'm starting to wonder just how many patriarchal traditions (chaperones for example) were created because women effectively demanded them. Modern women and feminists seem to be obsessed with safety, was it different in the past? They also become hysterical over the slightest offenses. Perhaps it's time to bring back fainting couches. In Britain they're trying to make catcalling a "hate crime". In France they're trying to make "unwanted speech" toward a women a crime also. Feminists are demanding…
/r/MensRights18/10/17 04:35 AM
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Take it to the dorks at the Red Pill sub. Return of Kings is a scam/loony right wing site.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 03:12 AM
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No they couldn't. Read the paper. Women were not forced to marry. If they didn't marry they were able to own their property. Men were granted property rights in marriage since they were obligated by law to support their wives and children, whereas women had no such obligations. The richest landowners in Europe were often women. They were also typically in charge of a house's finances and -- if they were wealthy -- in hiring and firing the servants. If men didn't support their wives they were sen…
/r/MensRights18/10/17 01:10 AM
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Of course they were. Women have always been privileged relative to men. They had easier lives, worked less, reproduced more often, spent money they didn't earn, owned the majority of society's luxury goods, lived longer, weren't forced to fight and die in wars etc. Poor women were oppressed (like poor men) and all women had their share of disadvantages and unfair treatment, but relative to men? They had it pretty good. The feminist claim that powerful men tried to privilege poor and middle class…
/r/MensRights18/10/17 01:00 AM
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Not all schools of feminist theory blame men. Of course they do. It's right there in the name. The source of all sin is Patriarchy and the source of redemption is Feminism. Anyway it doesn't really matter how you fancy your particular obscure brand of feminism. It is entirely irrelevant and has zero effect on policy or society at large. The people who run the big feminist organizations, lobby the politicians and teach the gender studies courses are manhating bigots. Without exception.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 12:50 AM
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Good collection of stats here: www.realsexism.com The empathy gap is the reason no one cares.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 12:41 AM
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most shooters who aren't insane, are following leftist dogma lol what? Most shooters are right wing and it's not even close. And indeed most mass murderers aren't motivated by political ideology. The most common attribute of these men is fatherlessness.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 11:59 PM
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"You can never touch a person's body, or talk about a person's body, without asking. That's theirs, not yours." Literally no one has sex like that. If you feminists get your way every heterosexual encounter will be an act of rape. It doesn't surprise me that all of your friends have been "sexually assaulted." Feminists define sexual assault as everything from an unwanted kiss to a dirty joke. You guys make the Taliban and Christian puritans look sexually libertine. You should check out the work …
/r/MensRights17/10/17 11:56 PM
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Radfems aren't the problem. They are simply being honest and taking feminist theory (which blames men and masculinity for all of society's problems) to its logical conclusion. I have much more respect for people like Sally Miller Gearhart, who advocated genocide against men, than feminists who drone on about patriarchy and toxic masculinity but pretend to believe in equality. Feminism is a hate movement. At least have the balls to embrace it. The other problem with blaming "radfems" is that is t…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 11:41 PM
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I can't speak for AloysiusC, but it's not simply a question of women being "better" advocates for their cause. It's a question of how power responds. Females have in-group preference toward themselves, whereas males have out-group preference toward females. This means that patriarchy theory is, in a word -- horseshit. Not only do rich men not privilege other men (their class enemies and sexual competitors) they will generally favor women. It makes no difference whether it's a man or woman in pow…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 11:37 PM
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Hepeating. Just fucking shoot me. It's like these we're dealing with 11 year old girls. Where are the women with a mental age above that of a teenager to call out their "sisters"?
/r/MensRights17/10/17 11:13 PM
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I do. The problem is that feminists shame women who don't want to become wage slaves for corporations. One of their main goals is to destroy the "patriarchal family". They have largely succeeded. The result is record unhappiness rates for women and half of all children growing up without fathers. Feminists even oppose equal parenting rights and have blocked dozens of shared parenting bills, even though all studies show that shared parenting is in the best interests of the child and that fathers …
/r/MensRights17/10/17 07:30 PM
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If I had a shelter for men who have been abused by women, I would say no women allowed. Wait, didn't you just get through saying we shouldn't have sex segregation?
/r/MensRights17/10/17 07:08 PM
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Are you familiar with the Israeli Kibbutz? It was an anarcho-socialist experiment in Israel that abolished gender roles. Within a generation it had become one of the most traditional societies in the world. The same thing has happened in Scandinavian nations. The more choice women have the more likely they are to gravitate to traditional gender roles and occupations. There's a great documentary on this called the gender equality paradox. Every society in history has had some degree of sex segreg…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 07:06 PM
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Socialist feminists believe that men and women are equally oppressed under our current social and economic system. We really aren't though. Maybe a hundred years ago, but feminists have succeeded in privileging females and disadvantaging males in every single sphere. Things like the "pink tax" and "manspreading" hardly compare to the issues men face. I'm not talking about poor women. Poor women suffer legitimate oppression. Interestingly poor women are the least likely to be feminists, probably …
/r/MensRights17/10/17 06:58 PM
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Feminism is lowering our culture to the level of "mean girls" gradeschool drama. They all act like fucking teenagers.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 05:06 PM
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You're asking for the state to act as your chaperone. You're no different than a woman in Victorian England. Stay home and lie on your fainting couch or act like an adult and accept that the government can't protect you from every inconvenience in life.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 05:59 AM
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That's irrelevant. When a post here makes it to r/all everyone comments. Not just MRA's. Go ahead and put your money where your mouth is: make a new post in R/all that will only be seen by MRA's and perhaps a troll or two.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 05:52 AM
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More likely you're just a troll/liar/feminist. Some of our best posters are gay. Put your money where your mouth is -- go ahead and make a post saying "I'm gay, do MRA's support gay rights?" Or "How do MRA's feel about the persecution of gays in Chechnya?" etc. See what kind of responses you get and which responses get upvoted.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 05:40 AM
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You're full of shit. I've been visiting this sub for years and gays are welcome here.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 05:31 AM
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I've read the other side. Stanton, Friedan, Steinem, McKinnon, Greer, Wolfe, Solanas, Gearhart, Fiorienza, Kimmel, Hooks, Federici. I disagree with practically all of feminist theory. It doesn't even rise to the level of semi-plausible hypothesis, and is in fact counter-predictive. Feminists thought feminism would make women happier; women are unhappier than ever. Feminists thought feminist societies would see a breakdown in gender roles; the most gender egalitarian societies have the strongest …
/r/MensRights17/10/17 02:04 AM
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Billionaires control both the "left" and the "right". This has been going on since at the least the 70's. Feminism and ID politics are designed to replace class analysis. The other function is to increase tension and hostility between the races/sexes etc. The inevitable result will be do drive white males into the far right. It used to be the right that would exacerbate/exploit racial tensions and the left would try to overcome them. Now it's practically the opposite: the quasi left blames white…
/r/MensRights16/10/17 09:20 PM
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A few academics have noticed. For example David Benetar ('The Second Sexism') and Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young. The latter duo have written five huge tomes on misandry. One of the books is titled legalizing misandry and explores the shocking ways that feminists (sometimes in league with the far right) have codified misandry into the legal system. I dare anyone to read all five books and declare that we don't live in a profoundly misandrist society. Feminists have a lot to answer for. My pe…
/r/MensRights16/10/17 09:04 PM
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Read "Hierarchy in the Forest". It does a good job of summarizing hundreds of ethnologies, from the Inuit to the Kung to the Aboriginees to the Mbuti pygmies of the Congo. Like I said, no exceptions. Or email literally any anthropologist. He or she will tell you the same thing.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 08:57 PM
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I'm not sure what you're looking for guy. Read literally any study of any nomadic hunter-gatherer tribe ever observed. Egalitarianism is their defining ethos. There are no exceptions. Not a single anthropologist disagrees.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 07:15 PM
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Read an introductory anthropology textbook and go from there. Nothing I'm saying is considered controversial by experts.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 05:23 PM
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What does Judaism have to do with this? It's another wacky religion. Why are you throwing the "West" under the bus? I'm not. I don't identify with the state or intelligence agencies like the CIA. These groups have been funding the most extreme backward Islamic sects since the 1950's and have effectively prevented modernization. The purpose was, in John Fuster Dulles' words, to prevent "Arab secular nationalism". This was opposed because it would entail Arabs being in control of their own resourc…
/r/MensRights16/10/17 01:42 AM
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Agree. Though not necessarily about single sex schools. It's not so much about the presence of females as the manner in which the children are taught. Boys excel with lots of hands on learning, physical activity, emphasis on solutions and creativity rather than rote memorization etc.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 01:33 AM
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I don't give a shit about Islam or Judaism or whatever. I DO think the West needs to stop funding, arming and training Islamic extremists. It's been going on for decades and needs to stop.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 01:31 AM
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Edit: The "I've read probably more than you" comment is a bit strange? You claimed that my observation that feminism is a hate movement was rooted in ignorance. I countered that I have read a great many feminist texts. Indeed I used to be a feminist before I started reading feminist literature and learning about the appalling history of the movement. Linking to a reddit post to support one's argument It contains numerous hyperlinks to news articles in mainstream publications. The point was to sh…
/r/MensRights16/10/17 01:28 AM
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I've read most of the major feminist texts. Probably more than you unless you majored in gender studies. I agree it's unfair to compare feminists to the KKK; it's unfair to the Klan. The Klan wanted to take away rights from blacks, but they never advocated genocide. A number of important feminist scholars (including the celebrated founder of the first gender studies course, Sally Miller Gearhart) have advocated reducing the population of males to ten percent. Feminism is one of the worst hate mo…
/r/MensRights16/10/17 12:54 AM
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That must be why I keep seeing women risking their lives to save people in danger. Oh wait that's men. They're probably mistaking agreeableness with niceness.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 12:43 AM
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No one's interested in feminist "solutions" to men's problems. That would be like a black person asking the KKK for help. Feminism is a hate movement that is itself responsible for many of the problems men and boys (and, ironically, women) are facing. Take your hate speech elsewhere.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 12:32 AM
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You're talking about war zones. Never mind education, half of the boys in those countries end up dead.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 12:27 AM
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Girls also do better in school in Muslim nations, including Saudi Arabia. Girls are simply better at school: sitting still, being docile, not rebelling, doing homework, and regurgitating facts. Doesn't matter what country. Obviously this has nothing to do with "education". It's about training obedient consumers and wage slaves.
/r/MensRights15/10/17 10:26 PM
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Maybe I phrased it wrong? I've never heard the phrase used before but feminists 100% for sure address toxic behaviours of women. E.g. "tearing other women down". "Toxic masculinity" is defined as a behavior associated with the male gender role that harms oneself and others. Fascinating that when feminists describe toxic femininity they choose "harming other women" rather than eg harming men and children. A proper definition of toxic femininity would include things like: playing damsel in distres…
/r/MensRights15/10/17 08:46 PM
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You also have a political party that tried to pass a law requiring men to pee sitting down. I'll take the boring clothes thank you. Edit: I would also argue that Swedish males aren't really free. They're free to be feminine but not masculine.
/r/MensRights15/10/17 08:38 PM
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Well, feminists were the ones who destroyed the institution of marriage (tender years doctrine, primary custody laws, no fault divorce etc.), so that's certainly a causal factor. In any case your last sentence is apt. I would go further: under no circumstances should a man even date a feminist. Talk about playing with fire.
/r/MensRights15/10/17 07:45 PM
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Men have it worse than women in Saudi Arabia. A huge part of their workforce is made up of male slave labor. Males have their genitals mutilated. Men are subject to conscription. Males are imprisoned if they fail to provide for their wives. Males are subject to much more violence. About a hundred men are beheaded for every woman. Men have a much higher suicide rate. Not saying women have a great deal there, just that we tend to hyperfocus on areas where women are disadvantaged while ignoring the…
/r/MensRights15/10/17 07:38 PM
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You don't get to do both They do though. People have been saying for years that if feminists didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all. It doesn't bother them. They show no signs of cognitive dissonance. They continue on their merry way. Evidently they've convinced themselves that revenge is a good thing (and fun too!) even if the crimes they're avenging are largely imaginary. Their other excuse is that they are "oppressed" so it's "okay when we do it." No, you aren't oppresse…
/r/MensRights15/10/17 07:20 PM
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That sub is truly toxic. It's worse than useless, it actively harms vulnerable men. It also perpetuates the gender roles they claim to oppose by placing females on a pedestal and placing all of the responsibilities on males.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 11:31 PM
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No, we have ethnologies of thousands of nomadic foraging societies. We have never encountered a nomadic hunter-gatherer society that was non-egalitarian. So I mean, it's possible such a society has existed at some time, we just have zero evidence for it. If you could find such a society you would at least have an argument. As it is your argument amounts to "well, our ancestors may have all had green hair, who knows?" "The earliest humans, hunter-gatherers, were often remarkably egalitarian. But …
/r/MensRights14/10/17 10:43 PM
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It's an informed guess. We have archaeological records (see R. Brian Ferguson), we have oral histories, and we have the fact that every single nomadic forager band in every region of the world at every time in recorded human history was egalitarian. We have literally never observed otherwise. So yes, it's possible that pigs can fly, but it's rather unlikely.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 08:56 PM
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It's interesting how casual these women are in trying to ruin a man's reputation. Oliver Stone made Arquette feel "uncomfortable." Buuuuurn HIM!!!!! Being a "victim" of sexual harassment" has become "cool". Methinks MGTOW is about to explode.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 08:49 PM
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This is a poor argument. Exceptionally poor areas of the world are 'egalitarian' too because men and women must do all the same work. I was referring to nomadic foragers. They don't do the same work. The men hunt and the women gather. That doesn't mean there isn't a hierarchy. One could argue that there is a reverse-dominance hierarchy; that is, the majority band together to prevent the emergence of an alpha male/psychopath who would hoard resources and women. But there is certainly no hierarchy…
/r/MensRights14/10/17 08:22 PM
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Holy shit. Are you telling me you're unaware that civilization is relatively new in the human experience? Are you a creationist? "The earliest humans, hunter-gatherers, were often remarkably egalitarian. But our history as a species did not begin with this “Eden” (we will see how we need to qualify that analogy in a minute), but with primate ancestors who were anything but egalitarian: our nearest primate relatives, the chimpanzees, live in strongly hierarchal bands dominated by alpha males who …
/r/MensRights14/10/17 07:44 PM
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Basically human beings can adapt to both hierarchical and egalitarian societies. For 99% of our history we lived in egalitarian societies, so the notion that we "crave" the opposite is dubious at best. Hierarchies were introduced through violence. There is some evidence that people are happier and healthier in more equal societies -- which would certainly make sense given our history. It would also help to explain why people living in countries with great material abundance like the United State…
/r/MensRights14/10/17 07:28 PM
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treatment of women as property Property can become head of state? Property can become politicians? Boys as young as six have to go to work in dangerous conditions to protect and provide for property? Men -- in some areas as at least (MGM, conscription, sexual violence, domestic violence etc.) have less rights than property? Men -- in some areas at least -- have much worse lives than property? (males much more likely to commit suicide, work in slave like conditions). Males forced to support prope…
/r/MensRights14/10/17 07:16 PM
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We crave hierarchies as animals. False
/r/MensRights14/10/17 07:00 PM
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Women are not chimps. One can come up with an "evolutionary biology" reason for every behavior under the Sun.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 06:55 PM
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You appear to be confused. I'm not disputing the numbers. I'm suggesting that the common guess that said numbers reflect all of human history (rather than civilized history) is not supported by ethnologies of hunter-gatherer societies, wherein alpha male behavior is strictly proscribed. Any male who attempts to dominate resources or females is first marginalized, then, if necessary, killed.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 06:49 PM
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Who the hell stickied this? Has a feminist become a mod?
/r/MensRights14/10/17 03:05 AM
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Irrelevant, since the vast majority of people who have ever been born and died did so in civilized societies. I'm not saying the numbers themselves are controversial. Only that they don't tell us anything about 99% of human history.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 02:32 AM
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I understand your sentiments but I think you're missing the point. If feminists were talking about any other group in their literature we would have no problem calling them a hate movement. They meet all of the criteria to a T, as Tom Golden noted. The only only reason we don't accurately condemn them as hate-mongers is due to some combination of the "women are wonderful" effect and male gynocentric/protective instincts. There's are also a certain degree of male chauvinism, ironically. "Oh look,…
/r/MensRights13/10/17 10:09 PM
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The 80% number came from the fact that 80% of females have descendants vs 40% of males. There's quite a bit of controversy about these numbers. The vast majority of people who have ever lived have lived under civilization. Civilizations are warlike (= tons of dead men), and under civilization females are hypergamous. Yet hunter-gatherer bands (how we lived for 99% of our history) are egalitarian; individual men are strictly prohibited from dominating sexual access to females and "alpha" male beh…
/r/MensRights13/10/17 09:54 PM
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The 80% number came from the fact that 80% of females have descendants vs 40% of males. There's quite a bit of controversy about these numbers. The vast majority of people who have ever lived have lived under civilization. Civilizations are warlike (= tons of dead men), and under civilization females are hypergamous. Yet hunter-gatherer bands (how we lived for 99% of our history) are egalitarian; individual men are strictly prohibited from dominating sexual access to females and "alpha" male beh…
/r/MensRights13/10/17 09:53 PM
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I'm not entirely sure how essentially gender-exclusive spaces are to either gender Well, every single "primitve" society observed had male and female specific spaces/rituals. The same has been true of every civilized society up until third wave feminism -- and feminists still demand female only spaces. So either every other society in history got it wrong or we're finally getting it right.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 09:29 PM
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Edit: wrong post
/r/MensRights12/10/17 09:28 PM
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most people aren't so needy and delicate to require elaborate explanations. stop obsessing and let it go.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 09:19 PM
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The goal of feminism is to remove all responsibility from women and girls. They should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want and suffer no consequences even if their behavior harms others. It's the female id run wild.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 07:04 PM
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I didn't dispute your correction.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 06:10 PM
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Doesn't really matter at this point if the original intention was benign, as the term has been appropriated by feminists.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 05:40 PM
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The great poverty reduction myth: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/08/exposing-great-poverty-reductio-201481211590729809.html See also: The black book of capitalism: counting the bodies: http://www.spectrezine.org/global/chomsky.htm That doesn't even get into the tens of millions killed by capitalist wars.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 04:57 PM
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The term "bromance" was created by women to demean and cheapen male friendships. Feminists add the prefix "bro" to things they dislike.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 04:50 PM
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If an organization wants to create a co-ed scout program they should do so. Boys should be allowed to have their own group just like the girls. You claim their behavior doesn't change much; that wasn't my experience at all. Boys become much more competitive when girls are around.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 07:41 PM
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They definitely don't want equal outcome. I'm not sure how this myth became so popular. If they wanted equality of outcome they'd be demanding equal numbers of work fatalities and equal prison sentencing for women.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 07:36 PM
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Just read this sub my friend. There are daily stories about women abusing little boys. When it comes to Hollywood, women typically act as the procurers; they groom the kids (both male and female) and guide them into the lion's den. Revoltingly, sometimes the mothers themselves pimp out their own children. It's a nasty, nasty business. This "sexual harassment" stuff is pretty tame in comparison to the rampant pedophilia in Hollywood. Check out the doc "An Open Secret."
/r/MensRights10/10/17 08:28 AM
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I don't know what happened with Weinstein. There have been rumors about him being a colossal prick and sexual harasser for years. But I find it extremely unlikely that he is some sort of bad apple in an otherwise pure bunch, or that figures like Streep were unaware of his exploits. I'd go so far as to say that the casting couch is the norm in Hollywood rather than the exception. It's interesting that we are outraged over some goon like Weinstein getting a blowjob in exchange for granting fame an…
/r/MensRights09/10/17 10:19 PM
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40% is way low imo.
/r/MensRights09/10/17 10:12 PM
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Women who behave this way are the real sickos. They have pedophilia on the brain and are projecting their own demented hangups or perhaps even desires.
/r/MensRights09/10/17 10:08 PM
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Men may have evolved better making up skills: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36969103 Men's historical dominance of the workplace may, in part, be because of their ability to reconcile with enemies after conflict, a new study suggests
/r/MensRights09/10/17 02:59 AM
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But all men had the opportunity to. Women did not, as you mentioned. No I didn't mention that. I'm not aware that if a woman wanted to be an artist and could match the talents of a Van Gogh that...I don't know her work would have been burned or something? I mean the very fact that we have those books written by women kinda disproves your point. women did not have the same opportunities as men They had a better opportunity of mating, which is sort of the whole point of evolution. They had a bette…
/r/MensRights08/10/17 05:24 AM
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So basically, all men could become famous for their art No. Only a tiny, tiny percentage of men ever became famous for their art. Again, men are over-represented at the extreme high end of achievement. They are also over-represented at the bottom rungs of society. women don't achieve as much as men is because they have lower IQs You're grossly misinterpreting what I'm saying. I said men are over-represented at the extremes (genius and idiocy). The great majority of men and women cluster around t…
/r/MensRights08/10/17 05:05 AM
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First of all, there's no proof that the best musicians and artists had a high IQ score. Okay. But we were talking about Mozart. I didn't say "there's never been a female Frank Sinatra" or "there's never been a female Jay-Z". Mozart's IQ has been estimated at upwards of 200. people thought women's art and music was worse because of the fact that they were women? You're apparently unaware of the fact that 99 percent of women hadn't the time to pursue careers in art and music. Men hadn't yet invent…
/r/MensRights08/10/17 04:06 AM
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There are a vocal minority of far right wing libertarians on this sub who care more about opposing anything "left" than fighting for men's rights. Don't worry about the downvotes.
/r/MensRights08/10/17 02:47 AM
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hahaha.
/r/MensRights08/10/17 02:40 AM
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People think that men are more talented just for being male, even today, let alone back in the day. Blind orchestra auditions result in a much higher proportion of women being hired because it removes the bias of thinking that women can't be good at things. The blind orchestra study is one of the more notorious feminist fake studies. See here However let's pretend you're correct. That literally has no bearing on my argument. The science shows that the vast majority of geniuses (and idiots) are m…
/r/MensRights08/10/17 02:37 AM
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RooshV Dude is a little fraud who lives in his mother's basement. He was totally busted on a Ukranian TV show when a woman he claims to have banged said she shot him down in a bar.
/r/MensRights08/10/17 01:36 AM
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To be fair, Shapiro is a staunch advocate of war crimes. He recommends "carpet bombing" Gaza, which consists of 40 percent children, and forcibly transferring the civilian population from the West Bank, which is characterized as a "crime against humanity" under the Geneva conventions.
/r/MensRights08/10/17 01:32 AM
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Women weren't even allowed to perform as composers back in Mozart's day lol. Sure they were. There were just no female composers that had anywhere near the same ability as Mozart. Ditto 99.9 percent of men. Women who showed exceptional talent (eg a Jane Austen or Madam Curie) were celebrated. It's just that they were exceedingly rare and most women had no interest in working obsessively to pursue careers. I mean just look at the history of jazz. 99% of the great jazz musicians and composers were…
/r/MensRights08/10/17 01:10 AM
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There's never been a female Mozart or Einstein because of sexism. That's a comforting thought but sadly no. "As you go from mild to moderate to extreme, there are fewer and fewer girls relative to the number of boys. Super-genius and severely retarded are both mostly boys’ clubs, though a few exceptional girls do show up too." (Baumeister) Don't feel bad. The vast majority of men aren't geniuses either. So women are incapable of being engineers? There are plenty of female engineers though. I nev…
/r/MensRights08/10/17 12:27 AM
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That was exactly what you were saying. I'm not going to explain things to you like you're a six year old. Read it again. Men would quickly correct the problems? How? By, um, training other men to do the job. Also, why did you ignore me when I asked you what jobs women are mentally incapable of performing? That was a different post. I just answered it.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 11:12 PM
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What jobs are women mentally incapable of performing? You do realize that men and women both have the same average IQ, right? Men comprise the vast majority of people with extremely high IQs (and extremely low IQs). That's why there's never been female Mozart or Einstein, and that's why men continue to create the vast majority (almost all) of new inventions. There is also a question of whether any but a small number of women are inclined toward fields like engineering (men have better spatial re…
/r/MensRights07/10/17 11:10 PM
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Are you claiming that men choose to be electricians because it helps others and not because of the paycheck with little education required? LOL. No, that wasn't what I was saying. "Lol" Nursing usually requires years of education, so no. Like I said, there would be some major headaches if women stopped working. However men would quickly correct the problems. If men stopped working it's back to the stone age. The fact that you're unwilling to admit this shows you're arguing from a place of emotio…
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:58 PM
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You seem to be missing the point. Men can perform all of those jobs while women are physically (and possibly mentally) incapable of performing many of the jobs that men perform. You should be thanking men for keeping you safe and comfortable, and you should also thank fate for making you the privileged sex.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:55 PM
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So women are okay with taking lower pay if it means helping others. Men aren't. Men are more motivated by money. That is because (a) females are hypergamous -- if men want to find a mate they have to work harder and earn more money became women demand it and (b) women have the luxury of "marrying up" to a far greater extent than men. Also, lol at the idea that men who provide your electricity and keep a roof over your head aren't "helping others." You're completely out of touch with reality. You…
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:50 PM
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Then why don't men choose to go into these fields? Because the pay sucks and they don't want to be accused of being pedophiles. women are also essential for maintaining and advancing civilization When it comes to breast feeding and early child rearing, yes. edit: word
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:42 PM
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The point is that men (of which there are huge numbers of unemployed) could easily do those jobs. Women simply aren't capable of doing many of the jobs that men perform. If you limited your argument to "have babies and nurture very young babies" you would actually be right, but the idea that females are equally necessary in the workplace is just completely delusional.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:39 PM
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And who are the ones taking care of the kids in school and daycare? Not their mothers, that's for sure. Men? Men would certainly have no problem doing so. Women might have a hard time working on oil rigs. Women are essential for reproduction and breast feeding. Men are essential for maintaining and advancing civilization.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:34 PM
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Put it this way: if women took a week it would cause a major headache. If men took a week off civilization would collapse. I agree that nursing is essential. The other point, as mentioned, is that men are responsible for 99 percent of innovation. It's been decades since women started entering STEM fields in large numbers and men still file the vast majority of patents. The vast majority of geniuses are men. I would agree that traditional women's work (raising children in the home) is just as imp…
/r/MensRights07/10/17 10:27 PM
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The real tragedy here is that these women won't be able to find mates that earn more than they do. ;) I suppose a MGTOW type wouldn't really care about these stats. Let women be the breadwinners. Men can simply do the bare minimum of work and enjoy life for once instead of being disposable workhorses. It will suck for society (and women) since men are responsible for almost all innovation and essential labor, but perhaps a culture this deranged doesn't deserve to survive.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 07:12 PM
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You're being downvoted but you speak the truth. Although I'm not sure if a majority of men oppose public health care. It's both cheaper and more efficient so there isn't really any reason to oppose it except ideology or hatred toward the poor.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 07:03 PM
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Dude, just because you're a boot-licking bitch who thinks the government is your daddy doesn't mean the rest of us should be forced to follow in your footsteps. Have some self respect for God's sake.
/r/MensRights07/10/17 06:56 PM
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To be fair the dude came off like a huge douche bag.
/r/MensRights06/10/17 07:04 PM
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Here is the correct answer. She's not offended at being asked out. She's offended at a person of significantly lower social status asking her out. It makes her feel icky -- how dare that peasant think he is in my league! This is also why feminists obsess over catcalling. Most feminists are middle and upper class, and catcalling is an exclusively working class behavior. It's all reminiscent of the traditional unwritten law that peasants not look royalty in the eye.
/r/MensRights06/10/17 07:01 PM
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Your argument was rational. Their's was hysterical. Yes it's true that men choose to work dangerous jobs (some of them anyway; the majority of the world's slaves are men). It's also true that some women are sloppy with birth control, choose not to take day after pills, choose not to have abortions, and choose not to give the child up for adoption. Men have no such choices. We're dealing here with logic vs hysterical irrationality or feelz before realz. You can't "win" the argument because you an…
/r/MensRights06/10/17 08:33 AM
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Some psychopaths can actually become relatively well adjusted productive citizens. There was a surgeon writing a book on psychopathy who decided to scan his own brain and discovered he was a psychopath. Yet he had never harmed anyone, at least not significantly. He had saved many lives and had a loving family. He didn't see the utility of becoming some sort of crazed killer. There are also examples of highly peaceful societies (see eg the work of anthropologist Douglas Fry). If psychopathy is ge…
/r/MensRights06/10/17 07:45 AM
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"Diversity" is almost entirely irrelevant. It's 99% public relations and distraction. Rich people (eg politicians) look out for the interests of the other rich people. They defend their class interests. Doesn't matter whether they are white, black, red or yellow; it's all about the green baby. Poverty in the black community actually increased under Obama. What about sexual diversity? Surely that matters? Nope. That doesn't matter either. Why? Because numerous studies reveal that males have out-g…
/r/MensRights06/10/17 07:29 AM
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It was a racist, sexist, bigoted statement. Full stop.
/r/MensRights06/10/17 07:17 AM
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Yeah, his father was on the FBI's most wanted list at one point.
/r/MensRights06/10/17 06:47 AM
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lmao
/r/MensRights06/10/17 04:39 AM
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Women initiate 80 percent of divorces. Also, in those cases where a women sexually selects for an irresponsible "bad boy" thug she is partially responsible for the probable outcome of such a pairing, ie the flight of the father. In most cases, however, the father is more than happy to stick around. See "The myth of the deadbeat dead" from 60 minutes. Mothers often bar fathers from being able to see their own children or severely limit contact after divorce. This has devastating effects on childr…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 11:29 PM
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(a) I'm married. (b) Who has more power and status and therefore means of violence/protection? The boxer or the rockstar? Brute violence is simply the bottom rung of power. A meathead bouncer is less attractive than a skinny but successful actor/rock star; but a meathead millionaire is more attractive than some skinny musician playing guitar in his mother's basement. To the extent that person A has more power and wealth than person B that is indeed a form of violence, or at least that it is how …
/r/MensRights05/10/17 11:25 PM
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I'm not trying to "excuse" anything. I don't blame males for common negative behaviors any more than I blame females for common negative behaviors. It's not like I'm some retarded feminist who views sex-specific behaviors in a vacuum without reference to the opposite sex. Mass murderers are of course exceptionally rare, but I think it's reasonable to assume that males engage in more overt physical violence than females, and mass murder is an extreme example of overt physical violence. One of the…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 11:00 PM
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Try to speak coherently and I'd be happy to reply.
/r/MensRights05/10/17 10:05 PM
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I can think of a few reasons: Female risk-aversion. Females value their own lives more than males, and are therefore less likely to put themselves in danger (whether in a positive or negative sense). Thus women are more likely to abuse children and the elderly, whereas men are more likely to engage in more risky forms of violence. Put a woman in a position of power where she is not personally at risk and she will be just as violent as a man, if not more so. Indeed historically Queens were more l…
/r/MensRights05/10/17 09:18 PM
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