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Red Pill TheoryGr4nd45/r/TheRedPill06/07/19 04:12 PM
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I probably should clarify, that when I said "if we are together", I meant marriage. Not just that, my first post was also talking about a partner in marriage (wife). That's how I understood OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:33 PM
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Most women of this age are in school and/or living with their parents. And if, in this hypothetical scenario, we are together, then I am the provider and she doesn't have to worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:50 PM
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What is "unrealistic"? And why do you call them "European beauty standards"? Beauty is biological. We like symmetry, we like signs of fertility and health (and strength, when referring to men).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:47 PM
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TBH, more important than your mentioned traits, is that she'd be family-oriented, loyal, respectful and loving. Looks aren't so much of a concern for me, I think most women who take care of their weight and diet are pretty. Blonde or ginger Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Slender, not skinny (within healthy BMI). As long as she doesn't work full-time, doesn't matter. No full-time job. None None Christian Straight (obviously) 20 - 25 Leaning more right, doesn't have to necessarily identify with any…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:25 PM
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Of course, some were. Generally, though, it was a taboo and people actually did save themselves for marriage. And even for the few odd ones... "shot-gun" wedding, "bastards", etc. there were consequences. Weren't nearly as many birth-control measures, as there are today. Religion played a bigger role in society, too. You may call that oppressive, but birth-rates were a whole lot better than today. And marriages actually lasted. Interesting, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:38 PM
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Point disproven by the fact that, not so long ago, sex outside of wedlock was considered a big taboo. Really, "free sex" is a novel concept, that gained traction back in the 60s (sexual revolution).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:20 PM
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As I said, I know this is inconceivable to western societies. Sex with your husband is fine, not birth control though. The fact is, the purpose of the act is pro-creation. The only reason it's enjoyable is to encourage pro-creation. By focusing on the "enjoyment" part, you are twisting the very concept. It's hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:17 PM
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It's twisted, because the focus became the act of sex itself. And this got twisted so far, that children are now seen as an unwanted side-effect, that should be avoided at all costs, even if it means eating self-damaging pills, or committing murder on your own flesh and blood. If you don't want to/can't afford to have children, don't have sex. Period. EDIT: yes, I realize this is inconceivable to modern western hedonistic society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:07 PM
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Of course not. Especially if you are married. You gave your vows to always remain faithful. Does your word actually mean anything? You'd break it just because you couldn't wait 1-2 months to get your wiener wet? What kind of a man are you? What will you do when she gets pregnant? It could be many months without sex. Relationship is a whole lot more than just sex, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:40 PM
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The main problem of the modern western society, in terms of relationships between men and women, is that you guys twisted the focus from family & children to sex. Cue insanity of modern dating in the west, and abysmal birth-rates. That's what's skewing the standards. Men go for max sex-appeal, even if the girl is a giant red-flag, and women have way too many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:33 PM
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"Pick me" is a term used by ran-through, crazy chicks to shame feminine, gentle, family-oriented women. Why? Jealousy and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:05 PM
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Yeah, because: Personality matters. Consider it cliche to say it, but it's true. Communication in person creates a connection. To all the RPers, who might wanna call this BS - get outside of your home, for once, and look at all the conventionally-at-first-look-unattractive guys, who are hanging out with beauties. And when that makes your bubble burst, rejoice. Reality isn't as grim as you guys thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:27 PM
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Yeah, they care about it too much. They are in-love with themselves. And that's unattractive. In general, caring about your looks too much is unmanly. It's feminine behaviour. And also, most women should not be dressing men at all. They're clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:36 PM
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I can believe it, that polygyny is more widespread than polyandry, but polygamy itself was never widespread. Certain rulers practiced it for their dynasty, but beyond that, it just wasn't practiced. Monogamy is ultimately better for child-raising, and for the mental health of everyone involved. And no, men don't really go for polygyny. Guys just want to fk around, without any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:34 PM
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In practice, it's both men and women, who have the choice. It's just many guys are too desperate and/or lack game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:36 PM
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lol no You have to take care of all the children, and women, later on. Even supposing you had the resources, you'd hardly want the hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:34 PM
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As a guy, I can only make assumptions, but I'd say: It's not that he's unattractive physically, it's his photos themselves. They imply a level of narcissism, as if he's in-love with himself. It's kind of... feminine. It's possible, that these girls just think they aren't good enough for him. They are insecure, and so they get defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:52 AM
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You should prove "hypergamy" is even real, first of all. Because the definition simply sounds like preference to me. Men do the same thing - if they have an option, they'll go for a younger, more attractive female. So, are men "hypergamous" too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:07 AM
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Because what is a "kind", submissive and docile "man" good for? If he's completely harmless, can he protect her? Stand up for her? Stand up for himself even? Take charge in a stressful situation? It's a natural turn-off. It's biology dude. Also, kindness can be manipulative. Plenty of nice guys, who are nice cuz they expect something for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:23 AM
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Well, what do these term mean? In short?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:16 PM
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What is intelligence even? Artistic, memory, mathematical, logical, spatial, common sense, speech, street smarts, musical, rational, aesthetic, intuitive Pretty much all of this is knowledge, learned skills. But knowledge =/= intelligence, supposedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:12 PM
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Maybe they just realize how self-demeaning catering to others is? And self-control (emotional control) is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:11 PM
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The goal of this improvement is to ultimately grow from a boy to a man. No, you don't become a Man just because you turned 18... or 20... or whatever. Way I see it, you must develop your own character, become independent from other people, society, government. AND you must find, retain, marry a woman and raise a family. Take care of that family. Raise your kids proper. Why is family needed? Because a selfish, self-absorbed male is not a man. It's a boy masquerading as one. You have to learn resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:46 AM
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Are you living under a rock? Look up any "grind-set", "relationship", "improvement" gurus online. It's like they all use the same blueprint for their videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:37 AM
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Posting pictures of yachts, expensive cars, etc. you are going to attract the very gold-diggers you guys complain about. And then you are going to come back here and whine about women's "hypergamy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:34 AM
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I think TRP don't really give good advice for anybody, as they seem to straight up hate women, and blame everything on them. A reflection of feminists. Also, they promote shallow, selfish and too-sex-oriented outlook on relationships. And sorry if I offended you, wasn't my intention. I was never diagnosed with anything, cuz I couldn't be bothered to do it, but for a large portion of my life, I too had severe difficulty socializing with people, especially women. I said what I said based on my exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:29 AM
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just exist just happen So, you agree with the quote? That men shouldn't improve themselves? If a woman is smart, why would she settle for a guy with no motivation, no drive? Especially if that guy doesn't have his own place and cannot support a family? If YOU were a father, would you want your daughter to settle for a man like that? As a man, you show your worth by displaying an ability to lead and provide. Having your life in order is an easy sign of that. Talking about your condition... I find…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:12 AM
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Because RPers are hypocrites. Their entire philosophy comes down to "rules for thee, but not for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:01 AM
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The terms honestly are amusing, but let's humour it. For beta buxing (BB), the man would actually have to be a beta. Being a provider doesn't mean you are one. The only time I'd call a man that is if he got c*cked, or settled for some ran-through woman who doesn't love or respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:58 AM
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He asked her out and they had fun together. But when time came to decide whether to continue, they turned out incompatible. What's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:07 AM
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So, "protecting yourself" = screwing over other people? Mate, the best way to "protect yourself" is to start thinking with the head that's on your shoulders, and look for a woman, who'd make a good wife, rather than one who looks the most fuckable you can get. It's bizarre, that you guys think anyone other than yourselves is to blame for shit like this. TBH, I think most dudes on this sub should spend some good time touching grass and doing some DEEP introspection. And only once they ditch the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:31 AM
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Met plenty of girls with self-esteem, who liked such behaviour quite a bit. But if you prefer a doormat for a guy, power to you girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:30 PM
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Again, there's not any force or control. he has a right to decide who he dates . He's simply saying, that they are incompatible. EDIT: By the way, how do you "apply boundaries to oneself"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:10 PM
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The "don't give a fk" attitude. Be honest, no matter even if you think you'll offend her. Don't be afraid to walk away, don't be afraid of her walking away. If she's talking stupid sh*t, don't be afraid to call her out on it. Don't be afraid to tease as well. Challenge. Don't immediately jump at an opportunity she gives you. Say no (delay). Make her work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:16 AM
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Physical attractiveness suggests good health and genetics - I'd definitely take that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:05 AM
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Having boundaries is "a sign of an abuser"? Really? And in this case, Jonah didn't even demand anything from her. He simply said "these are my boundaries, if they don't appeal to you, we can separate". He was being perfectly polite and chill about it. What is there to "vet" here? He did nothing wrong. Sarah just vetted herself. If she's gonna make public hit-pieces over such small things, she's not just a red flag. She's a psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:03 AM
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What is AFBB exactly? How is it tied to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:59 PM
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LTR = long-term relationship Obviously, the criteria are different for women you just want a quick hook up with, and women you want actual LTR (marriage) with. If you are smart as a man, you won't pick someone ran-through for marriage. Not in these times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:52 PM
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By being "friends" with another man, she's by definition being emotionally intimate with him. Not to mention, that she's being half-naked while doing it. 90+% of people, men included, aren't going to have an issue Considering the amount of religious people out there, plus the fact, that most of the world is quite a bit more conservative than US, you are definitely wrong in your numbers m8. You are the minority. And even if you weren't - I'd still hold these standards. Because I've got self-respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:47 AM
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Who's trying to change their partners? Jonah simply broke up with her, because they are incompatible. Lol,you think is fine for people to isolate their partners from the opposite sex? Isolate? It's impossible to isolate yourself, when you live in a society. But yeah, a woman shouldn't be looking for other guys' attention, shouldn't be hanging out with other men, if she's taken. You can call this "cOnTroLliNg" all you want. It's what commitment is. You give up certain freedoms for the sake of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:40 AM
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Trying to change your partner's career,life and friendships isn't "wanting loyalty" Even if she doesn't technically cheat, if she's hanging out with other men, posting semi-naked images to get attention from other men... How can she call herself loyal? That's what's absurd. Its absurd to demand from a swimsuit model not to be one Depends on what is more important to her. In this case, their values obviously didn't match.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:27 AM
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You had bad experiences. Sorry about that. But not every guy just wants to smash, like the guys you described. And experienced woman might be better in bed, but it's not what matters for long-term relationships (+ growing and learning together is part of the relationship). Things that do matter, like loyalty and respect, are more present in virgins/low "body count" women. The guys you met just happened to be selfish AHs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:36 AM
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Jonah handled it perfectly from the looks of it. He didn't once insult her, didn't even really demand anything. He just said something along the lines of "these are my standards, if that's not ok for you, we should go our separate ways". People are outraged, because apparently in the west the concept of woman's loyalty is inconceivable. And don't even try the "wHy DoN't yOu TrUsT hEr?!" bs. Trust needs to be earned. If you are committed, if you respect and value your man, you won't even put your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:50 AM
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For LTRs, a woman being a virgin is a big plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:45 AM
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Relax your tatas, I was also mostly talking about men here. And who ever threatened you like that hun?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:31 PM
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Everyone has standards bro. If you shame other for theirs, you are the hypocrite. Either step up, or move on. Don't be a beggar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:40 PM
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By shaming someone for their standards, you just admit you are below those standards. And that you want that person to drop those standards out of pity for you. It's such a pathetic stance to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:04 PM
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Trust comes with proof: A man proves himself by stepping up and taking responsibility for himself and his woman. By providing stability and direction - financially, emotionally. A woman proves herself by proving her loyalty and unwavering support. Some (not all) men today are quite weak, they refuse to do anything around the house, they let their anger out on their family, they are crybabies, etc. I categorically disagree, that a man should be emotionally vulnerable. An emotional man is a weak m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:54 PM
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I am argumentative, because it's ridiculous to claim everyone thinks the way you do. "cultural norms" your views aren't a "cultural norm". Get out of here with that bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:46 PM
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Go on and show me studies, that prove the statement: "vast majority of Swedish women" have "same values as [you]" If you can't find it, don't make such statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:34 AM
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And you talked to the "vast majority of Swedish women" and got their view on this? Don't be ridiculous. We all can only speak for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:15 AM
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You can really only speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:03 AM
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You can't really speak for all Swedish women, but if this were true, then all you guys would be a hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:56 AM
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No, not really. Atheism didn't exist on a wide scale anywhere before modern era, particularly until around the 1900s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:44 PM
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Hoarding wealth? Churches need to sustain themselves, and the money people give is completely voluntary. Widespread SA? I wonder what are your sources for that. Encouraging "tribalism and sectarianism"? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:35 PM
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Modern society inverted what relationships are all about. Instead of life-long partnership and raising kids, it's now quick and easy sex. Instant gratification. Sex sex sex. All people think about in the modern day. So twisted is the outlook, that people forget the real function of sex. Yeah, let's give ourselves birth control pills, that fk up our bodies severely, or go even further and commit murder (abortion). All for the side-effect of the act. Sex is only pleasurable to encourage reproducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:47 PM
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Desperation is sad. And it comes in the way of what you want to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:54 PM
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Gotta take your time dude, and don't settle for "tolerance". Look for a woman who actually wants to be with you. Value yourself a little dude. You ain't a bargain. Don't take charities. If she offers you some out of pity, or because "meh why not", say NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:43 PM
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Men have plenty of options too, it's just most of you guys are so desperate you cling to the first chick who... tolerates you. Too desperate, too eager. It's a turn off. TRP keeps whining about "looks, status, money"... My dudes, fix your attitude and your game first. You get into relationships as a bargain, and then complain it ain't going so well... SMH
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:16 AM
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I mean, he chose her. And he has her around even when she disrespects him, c**ks him, etc. He's a doormat. He's the opposite of an HVM. It's hilarious to call him that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:33 PM
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Mate Lauren Sanchez is a 5 at best. For all his money, this "HVM" only managed to pull that? There are 70-80 year old grandpas pulling young supermodels. And this guy settles for that? "HVM" my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:18 PM
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I utterly disagree, but whatever floats your boat man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:59 PM
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At the right time, and with the right woman - yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:54 PM
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Think of him what you will, it's a fact he has a massive following, and those people do respect him for, in their perception, going against the establishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:50 PM
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So it's still the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:48 PM
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Having a business =/= having a public following. The general public opinion on Bezos seems to be a negative one. He doesn't have a following.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:47 PM
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Does he? Unlike someone like Trump, he doesn't really have a following, or much political influence. Much like Zuckerberg, he has a generally unfavourable image.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:04 AM
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He actually does. Bezos doesn't really have a following. Tate has massive following and devoted fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:59 AM
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What makes Bezos HVM? His money? Is that the only requirement to be an HVM? Also, do you think Lauren is living a happy and fulfilling life? At 50+ still trying to live like a 18-20 year old, with a fake body and everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:56 AM
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So, HVM is someone who conforms to the "polite society"? Huh. Also, I could bet Tate garners more respect from the public than Bezos.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:51 AM
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I don't know what the middle ones are, but the 1st and the last are valid arguments against most of what TRP around here tend to speak. But maybe most TRP here are just bad at formulating arguments. Why don't you try to make them: What are women not taking accountability for? What is the reality "most men live in"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:11 PM
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I am not asking you to convert me, nor could you. My question is - what is the hypocrisy? Any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:44 PM
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What hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:19 PM
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You are the one, who should do a bit of reading. Which Christian values endorse such things? And when did Christians kill non-Christians "for fun"? Please tell me you aren't referring to the Crusades...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:03 PM
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Sure, it's not the only religion. But it is the religion, that was dominant in the western world for many centuries, and pretty much shaped our morality. At least until the last 2 - 3 decades, when edgy contrarians decided to to reject these values in favour of depravity. Atheism, in fact, is a pretty novel concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:55 PM
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Really now? Which Christian values, in particular, endorse such things?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:52 PM
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Real life proves different. With rejection of traditional Christian values, western morality took a nose-dive into oblivion. And with the decline of morality, western societies themselves are slowly disintegrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:40 PM
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Nope, specifically traditional Christian values upheld morality of the entire western world for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:38 PM
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we do have the luxury of enjoying the pleasure of sex. Birth control exists And this is exactly what's destroying relationships in the west. You yourself are complaining about "contemporary relationships", yet you are only thinking about sex as pleasure. You even refer to relationships as "sexual market". That's what's "wild" here. You call this "advanced"? Focus on instant gratification, carnal pleasure, shying away from responsibility and commitment - is this "advancement"?! We are acting more…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:22 AM
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I am not "defending" anything. You are the one not getting what I said. I mentioned at the very beginning, that one of the problems is over-fixation on sex (pleasure). Wanna speak scientific? The purpose of sex is reproduction. It's pleasurable only to encourage reproduction. Modern society has flipped the concept upside down. The most logical course of action, biologically, is to be in a monogamous relationship and only engage in sex with your husband/wife. And for you to accuse me of "white kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:47 AM
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On the contrary, it has everything to do with traditional Christian values. The very fact you refer to romantic relationships as "sexual market" says it all. THIS is the problem. Don't blame women. Look at what you speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:27 AM
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Disagree. Men of previous couple generations created the modern dating condition, while we are actively encouraging it. These are the reasons for modern dating situation: - Rejection of traditional Christian values, - too much focus on sex, - pedestalizing women. All of these are our own fault. So don't pretend to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:10 AM
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Not the 90s, yeah, but mostly couples still live in the man's house. Because the man is still expected to be the provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:08 PM
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Most? In most cases, women live in their husbands' houses. It's not theirs to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:03 PM
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Women are impacted more hmm? Yet they initiate divorce 70% of the time? Either way, the question stands - why would a man even marry in the current system?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:02 PM
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Pretty much nothing you said here applies to reality, my dude. Just scenarios in your own head. When was the last time you talked to one? And dude, it's a manly thing to take accountability, right? Who's fault is it if your girl treats you like a servant?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:42 PM
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It's got nothing to do with women. Forget them for a sec bro. You know ED bro? Porn takes away your drive, your motivation, your libido, and is also addictive. It can destroy not just your relationships and manhood, but your life too. There are more productive ways of spending your energy dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:34 PM
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Yes, desiring sex is natural. For both men and women (and yes, women do desire it). The desire is there to encourage reproduction. However, you aren't owed sex or relationships, unlike what many TRP people here seem to think. When you shame women for having standards, i.e. not choosing you, you are implying you are owed sex/relationships. It's pathetic. And dude. There's no more reasons needed to "hate porn". Porn is destructive. Physically and mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:27 PM
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The person I was speaking with provided a hypothetical. So did I, in response. And if laws make it legal to rob someone, yeah that's a loophole. A big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:20 PM
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I don't know about alimony, but I do know, that pretty much every divorce cuts through a man's finances deeply. Men in my close circle of people have been destroyed due to divorce (literally losing their home). Heard lots of stories too. As it is, why would a man even marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:07 PM
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That may be true, but there's another side to it. A freeloader woman marries a man purely for money, divorces him, takes part of his wealth by default, and then gets alimony on top. Not a day worked in her life. Just robbed a guy due to a loophole in the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:51 PM
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Yeah, men shaming women for their standards is pathetic... Instead, men should learn to not pedestalize a single woman, understand there's a lot out there, and move on from the unreasonable ones. And not to settle until they find reasonable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:34 PM
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Alimony made sense when women had limited, or no opportunity to make their own living. In modern society, it makes no sense. Not only that, it's one of the ways a marriage can be used as a legal way to rob a man. As much as I dislike sounding like a materialist, I do believe in justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:23 PM
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You get your definitions from fiction, OP? Watched too much of Fifty shades of grey? Quite simply, high value man = an above average man. And unlike what the usual TRP rethoric claims, it ain't so hard to become that. Sure, take care of yours look, work out, but you don't need supermodel physique with chiselled abs. What's more important is that you'd have goals in life, motivation, drive to move forward, instead of sitting at a PC, cooped up in your room. That you'd be active in your life. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:45 AM
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Of course, people are different. But for the most part - it's quite important. Even as a teen, I got approached by girls older than me, simply because I had a deep voice. I don't have an advantage of being very tall, but I do have a masculine physique, and, considering from the glances I get, it's an advantage... But I've gotta say - who cares if it's important to other people? I am the way I am, and it's important to me to stay true to myself. My world doesn't revolve around women, or any perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:58 PM
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Respect. No respect = no desire, no loyalty. She won't respect you, if you don't act like a man and take up higher position in the power dynamic of the relationship. Seen it time and time again, in every stage of the relationship. A man gives his woman higher position in the power dynamic, and she begins resenting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:06 PM
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Sure, despite the fact we are very different physically, we think and reason differently, etc. Otherwise, I guess we are the same :D Our roles were defined by nature. Come and argue this when men start birthing children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:05 PM
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Men and women are fundamentally different and these differences result in us having different roles in individual relationship, and in the society as a whole. So, what "equality" are you talking about here OP? We aren't interchangeable. Never will be. Take the early 1900s, for example [...] they also decided that women shouldn't vote or work corporate jobs and so on. Did men decide that? Do some research about anti-suffrage movements and how many women didn't want voting rights themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:57 AM
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I did, but I don't use twitter, so I don't know the context. And I won't stop :D, because some of the advice he gives is actually good. As I said before, he routinely teaches young men to be hard-working, disciplined, and to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:51 PM
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As I said Wouldn't call myself a Tate's fan, but I have watched some of his content. And while some things he says, I don't agree with, he also has some genuinely good advice for young men. Also, what was the context of him saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:40 PM
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Poor living conditions don’t negatively affect the birth rate. Partly because the culture is different, partly because they don't have (as much) access to birth control. And removing birth control takes away peoples choice. There’s no “want” without birth control, a baby is just a given. Haha is abstaining from premarital sex such an inconceivable option? You ALWAYS have a choice, birth control or no birth control. lol If a woman wanted to have a child, she would. Sperm banks, one night stands, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:15 PM
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How are men determining the birth rate. By using birth control or not having sex at all. The latter is happening more and more in Japan, from what I hear. Birth rate is determined by the entire society. Access to birth control, as well as poor living conditions will negatively affect birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:46 AM
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I mean, this ain't even RP, this is just facts. Since when is biology RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:29 AM
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That has a lot more to do with unfavourable living conditions, as well as abundance of birth control, than women's refusal to have children. Even though women are the ones, who bear children, they aren't the only ones determining the birth rates. Men can opt out of parenthood just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:26 AM
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Autism is a problem reaching a lot further than just relationships. You didn't even specify if it's a high-functioning autist. No thanks. Also, you admitted you are talking about global average height. So not really short perse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:51 AM
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We don't need to convince women to have babies. Most women (and men) at some point actually want a family. OP, if you are a man who wants a family, make it clear from the beginning of the relationship that this is what you are looking for. If a woman doesn't want that yet, let her go. There are plenty of family-oriented women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:27 AM
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You seem to talk with some sense, yet I don't get where does this irrational hatred towards Tate come from. Again, I wonder - did you actually watch his content? Back in those days taking steroids was actually the norm This is your excuse?... How about not using steroids at all? How about men being physically active, disciplined, and persistent, and naturally getting their body fit, instead of looking to cut corners and take unhealthy, self-destructive shortcuts? How about abolishing an industry…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:11 AM
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What is "TFR"? I think we will need to provide mothers a lot more, on multiple fronts, to balance out the costs of pregnancy and early infant care. We do. They get maternity leave. The husband fully takes care of her during that time. the vast majority of men no longer battle sabre-tooth tigers and enemy raiders regularly. Yet are still living shorter lives, are killed more often, get into fights more often, get into work-place accidents more often, suffer crippling injuries more often, etc. com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:39 AM
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Wouldn't call myself a Tate's fan, but I have watched some of his content. And while some things he says, I don't agree with, he also has some genuinely good advice for young men. Arnold Schwarzenegger (The Body) You mean, juicing up with steroids? If you want to use a movie actor example, at least use Stalone. Even in his 70s he looks great. But then, Tate also has a great physique for a man. So what's the point lol? Keanu Reeves (The Heart) "Heart"? What? What does that have to do with masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:17 AM
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Except we're literally shaping this world into what we need it to be for our convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:32 AM
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I assume you are referring to the jargon RPers use - "damaged woman". They seem to refer that way to a woman, who's been through relationships and breakups, and now has mental baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:47 PM
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My comment implied no such thing. The context OP provided is "nonverbal consent", i.e. ability to read the mood and initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:30 PM
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Maybe if a guy can't read the mood at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:26 PM
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If "someone" isn't in the mood, you won't even get to these sort of questions in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:24 PM
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Yeah they are questions. Questions typically said when the action has already started lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:23 PM
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Well, if that's what you like, power to you, I guess. In my experience, it's a moodkiller
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:21 PM
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Dirty talk is dirty talk. It's when the mood and setup is already there. At that point, you've already gotten your "consent" haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:15 PM
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Really? Do you always expect your guy to ask you? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:11 PM
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What you describe isn't "asking" lmao. That's dirty talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:08 PM
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Because they don't want you to ask for it. They want you to take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:00 PM
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In other words, our standards are different, and instead being an adult and acknowledging that other people's opinions are just as valid, you throw anger tantrums like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:46 PM
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Oh I've met asian women. Not many I admit, but I did. And you should get out of your bubble. If you are looking for LTRs, family-oriented attitude and loyalty are the primary attributes you look for (unless you are a masochist/idiot). And show me a guy who doesn't want his woman to be feminine. And why are you so mad my guy? Why does men having standards trigger you lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:46 AM
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Depends. In my experience, a 20 year old man and a 40 year old man have so little in common, that generally, they just don't provide each other good enough company to be buddies. There's a power imbalance and the younger guy feels like he's talking to dad/uncle. As for dating... I've nothing against age gaps as long as they are not big enough, that you could be a parent/child to the other. I'd draw the line to about 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:25 AM
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I am not denying your experience, but I wonder - how much were those views influenced by TV and social media? I am not american myself, and yeah, internet and TV aren't painting a favourable image for american women. At the same time, I know that internet and TV often don't represent things accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:20 AM
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I mean, there's truth to that. Don't know about "sweet, submissive", but asian women do tend to be more loyal, family-oriented and more feminine in their manerisms. And while obviously there are many decent women in the west, there are also many promiscuous, disloyal and entitled women here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:51 AM
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The things listed in the OP are just preferences. OP strawmanned some "insults" into it, and couldn't actually find any real posts like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:54 AM
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We are so different from all the animals, that it's incorrect to call us as such. We are the only species so far, and maybe ever, that can control this world, rather than having the world control us. It's a completely different level of existence. we're slaves to biology Speak for yourself mate. Humans are routinely going mind over body route. If we were "slaves to biology", we'd never have created civilization and technology. We'd still be living caveman style.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:21 PM
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To begin with, I really dislike it when people compare humans to animals. Other than that, it has not much to do with the system itself (except for family courts and marriage). It has more to do with men's mindset. In essence, men pedestalize women, and that's what causes gynocentrism. Why do men do it? Desperation for some poon (exacerbated by overly-sexualized media), and lack of self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:23 AM
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I wouldn't reject real evidence. But now, you twisted random studies you find into whatever you want, drawing wild conclusions that the study doesn't prove. And you call this scientific. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:18 PM
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Not a theory. I am pointing out, that "black pill's" evidence isn't evidence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:09 PM
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Except there's no direct evidence for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:08 PM
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lol no it isn't. If gang members only get poon from criminal women, it means criminals love criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:50 PM
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There's a lot more to it as well. How do you know he's "scum" just because he's a gang member? Is it impossible to be a gang member, who doesn't murder and doesn't steal? Maybe gang members hang around areas like clubs, etc. more? What kind of women were included in this study? Are they gang members too? Are they criminals? Are they hookers? What country is this study from? What is the economic situation of the area of this study? Simply said, there's a lot of other circumstances and criteria yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:36 PM
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Correlation does not mean causation (or whatever it's phrased) They've got studies, ok. Do they even try to think about all the caveats? Male gang members have dramatically more female sexual partners Are women attracted to crime? Or to a man's assertiveness and strength? Also, what is the demographic and economic situation in those gang areas? Could it be those women simply have no other choice? Childhood bullies experience greater sexual success than non-bullies It's unclear what other desirab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:25 PM
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Because the people who regularly do that in this subreddit are men. I've seen around the same amount of men and women trashing each other on this sub :D Where did I do that? Literally in your OP - "Why can't they just say "I'm lonely"" Saying all women are money hungry gold diggers Which post said this? Also, if you disagree, discuss! That's what the sub is for!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:18 PM
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1) You are only using men's talking points 2) You are reducing the theories, opinions, and discussions to men supposedly simply being "lonely". You are ridiculing them. The bias is quite obvious. And I mean, these discussions are exactly what this sub is for. For RPers and BPers to meet and discuss things on civil grounds. Of course you are going to find pretty wild opinions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:04 PM
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Ok, a mild bait of a title. The chart is just facts, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:57 PM
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Why can't you use your own advise and just say "I don't like men's opinions and theories around here"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:53 PM
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but not wanting to be masculine themselves. And how are they showing that refusal to "be masculine"? When society actually expects men to behave in the way this subreddit claims men already behave as Interesting thing is, modern society expects men to act more feminine, to be more "in touch with their feelings". Also, I was confused about this part: when told to be more obedient, have self-control, and not let their emotions cloud their judgement, they cry gynocentricism. Who should my dudes be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:43 PM
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Out of all of those, only #6 was mildly rude. Even then, nothing explicit. #2 and #3 were actually written by women and directed at men. #4 and #5 are duplicates. (and both point out hypocrisy of Emma Watson) The rest aren't insulting whatsoever. They are more question types, and are perfectly civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:32 PM
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This is not a radical feminist page. and on certain forums and websites about women. You are being a hypocrite. I specifically said " And if we are reaching beyond this sub " Writing about how western women are awful and the only western women that you can attract are fat and ugly so you’re going to move to another country and find an 18 year old virgin is not “constructive criticism”. Saying “based” when a man says that he has a prenup that if his wife gains weight he will divorce her is not co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:59 PM
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Only disagree on the last point. What is "traditionalism"? Is it considered "traditionalism" to desire a loyal, humble and family-oriented woman ?(I think it's just general men's preference) What is considered "traditional" for men? And why do you think guys here don't want to be masculine? when told to be more obedient, have self-control, and not let their emotions cloud their judgement, they cry gynocentricism. Can you explain this more? Genuinely confused here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:51 PM
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Most people here are pretty constructive in their argumentation. Ones, that are not, are criticized by most men and women alike on here. And talking specifically about "men preferring women in their 20s" and "men preferring asian women", I've seen those threads. In both cases, there were legitimate arguments made, none of them had the kind of insults you list. And if we are reaching beyond this sub, I could point out the radical feminists and what colorful language they use for all men in genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:36 PM
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Fixed what? You are just mocking men's dating preferences with a whole bunch of strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:21 PM
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Yeah. He's "red pill" alright, but not that "red pill". He slammed youtube "pick-up artists/gurus" in his previous content too. I don't agree with everything he says, but he has some genuinely good points and advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:08 PM
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Generalizations, generalizations... [men] see women as people and consider everything into account Let's be honest. As a man, I can tell you, that I would refuse to date an obese woman, regardless of how great a person she was. [women's] primary focus is the superficial - looks, status, money. Stop listening to RP, go out and socialize with women. You'll notice there's a lot more to attraction, than those things you mentioned. Heard of charisma? It's like magic. Honestly fascinating stuff, human…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:38 PM
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None. Stay away from drugs kids
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:21 PM
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Where does it say so? And where is this even taken from? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:05 PM
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Whether that is true or false, what I said about physical characteristics of asian men is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:04 PM
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How is this determining whether they are good or bad? Even if one of them turned around and socked that skinny tosser, they wouldn't be "bad". He deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:03 AM
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Lol it's not my problem if you present yourself as a "pleasure object".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:01 AM
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It's not women who are "obsessed" with height lol. It's you guys. Your insecurity shows like a fking beacon in the night. As a short guy myself, I never really had much of a problem with getting female attention. Fix your attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:59 AM
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Very simple: 1) Asian women generally have more attractive personality traits than white women - asian women are generally more feminine, more humble (and modest), more family-oriented, more loyal. Also, some guys prefer their appearance too. 2) On the other hand, asian men are generally not as attractive to women, because they generally are much less masculine than western men - feminine looks, high voice, small stature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:52 AM
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It's not "racism", it's true. An average asian male is shorter, has a more feminine look, and a higher voice than western men. There is nothing in our society, that would create this "image". It's simple reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:47 AM
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Wrong. 1) Popular boys are popular because they are charismatic, confident, and assertive. It has nothing to do with female validation. 2) Insisting that men need women's validation to be confident is exactly what's wrong with young guys today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:41 AM
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My post was only half-serious, and I was referring to military men, more so than Big H. Also, I wouldn't trust all these "studies" too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:31 PM
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Guy has utterly no idea what he's talking about. My guys. Don't get into any games. May seem cliche, but be yourself. No need to play some tought guy. Be comfortable in your own skin. Don't be needy. Don't be desperate. Don't be afraid to walk away if she plays games/disrespects you. Don't double text. Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:27 PM
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Men with no issues ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:21 PM
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You really don't understand how skimpy/open clothes "objectify" a woman? Or do we have different definitions for "objectification"? Isn't it "reducing" someone to a sexual object?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:13 PM
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Shhh everyone. Listen. Hear that? It's the sound of all the panties dropping for u/CapsuleCorpLogo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:59 PM
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Because of how you present yourself, how you draw attention to yourself. First impressions, you know. And some gals have the gal to complain about "being objectified" later on. I mean, you "objectify" yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:45 PM
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I mean, you are completely free to roam the streets with your melons hanging out, and your crack in full view for everybody. Do expect people to look at you, and treat you accordingly though. And if you ever wonder why all the men you meet do the ol' good pumpndump move on you, look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:32 PM
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I only know of torture methods, that keep you confined. I don't know any method, that tortures you by preventing socialization :D. And introverts, depending on dividual case, may not "need" social interactions at all. Also, let's not forget all the hermits and whatnot. And no, not everyone needs validation. YOU need it. Other people don't. And what I listed are still the source of the lack of confidence, as I said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:40 PM
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First of, that phrase "humans are social creatures" is overused, and it's such a generalization and oversimplification, that it becomes incorrect. All the introverts out there prove it wrong. And the reason you feel the need for validation from other people, is because you don't value yourself and your life. "Lack of confidence comes from inexperience"? Mostly wrong. Even experienced social-wise individuals tend to have the negative traits I listed, as thus, fail their relationships. Experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:24 PM
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(Repost) I noticed something similar in my experience, friends, family, etc. What's the deal here? I think women want their men to take up a higher position in the power dynamic of the relationship. To take charge, in other words. All these actions you do - being emotional and vulnerable, showing how much you desire her approval and affection, etc. They shift the relationship power dynamics in her favour. And they make you look weak. And despite all the popular media talks about how men supposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:49 PM
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It's the truth. There are a few physical characteristics, that are acknowledged as attractive by most people. But overall, what you find attractive is very subjective and differs from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:12 AM
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One man's average is another man's "hot", and an "ugly" to the third one. You are talking about subjective things as if there's some objective metric to them. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:57 AM
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Disagree. Lack of confidence comes from insecurity, lack of self-worth, and caring too much what other people think of you. You can fix all 3 of those problems, which will in turn build your confidence. Most importantly, you must find value in yourself and your life, and stay true to yourself. Things like "SMV", physical attractiveness, money, etc. don't matter one bit. YOU decide your worth, not other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:45 AM
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In what way would it make it healthier? You think women would choose men with less matches? For what reason? Out of pity? Even in real life, women are interested in men, who get attention from other women. Showing your number of matches would only increase the perceived "toxicity", that people see in dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:59 PM
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You are right. You are high. Obviously a man would look weird if he acted like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:31 AM
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Interpersonal relationships are the basis of society. If they degrade, the whole society degrades. Which you can clearly see all over the west today, with people turning on each other, families being ruined, etc. Worst of all, this also impacts the following generations, as kids have to grow up in broken households, while also being fed harmful ideologies from all over the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:16 AM
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Look at the divorce rates and unfaithfulness rates, and you'll see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:48 AM
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looking for a big titty waifu If you put it like that, you'll make women, men and animals too run for the woods. Sure. And no, men and women aren't disgusted by each other's sexuality lol. It's either insecurity, that causes them to be intimidated by standards, or you are outting yourself as... an unpleasant individual with the way you frame it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:13 PM
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Monogamy is the norm. Since ancient times. And if there ever were polygamous relationships, it was 1 man and multiple women (harem). Why? Because men are territorial by nature. Because in ancient times, you couldn't tell who the father was if the woman was promiscuous. And without a man in her life, a woman was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:47 PM
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If the young person is aware is that it’s mostly for their body- it’s fine. The older person should be upfront about that though. It's not always about that. Older women often have the looks too. Younger women, on the other hand, are more often unspoiled, don't have the attitude and are more willing to commit. Not to mention, that if a man wants children, it's better to date women in their early - mid 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:38 PM
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But I never was into redpill or Andrew Tate so I never developed a unhealthy mindset of women. Both of them get some things right. The push for men to actually value themselves is great, honestly. Because most men severely undervalue themselves and put women on a pedestal. Which ultimately leads to unsatisfactory relationship for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:35 AM
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I think, generally yeah. For one, most people don't look for someone "equivalent". They end up with someone they are somewhat attracted to and click with. For another, most men undervalue themselves, and as such, have low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:22 PM
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u/Stunning_Thing4208 is correct here. Those young girls specifically go for men in their 30s (sometimes older). Why? Because those men have resources, they have their lives in order, and they have experience and maturity. Women seem to be attracted to those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:01 PM
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A guy that believes that he doesn't have any chances Quite the contrary. Guys who undervalue themselves usually also have low standards for women. And I will let you in on a secret: most guys undervalue themselves. Which is why they put women on a pedestal and end up in toxic relationships. You attract the ones that share the same values as you For romantic relationships? Hard to say. Don't entirely agree with that. You know the saying "opposites attract"? It's another extreme. I believe, the tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:51 AM
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Which part of #2? There are two parts to that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:55 PM
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So, you acknowledge my #3 point as correct. Our biological differences are factual. Unless you know a guy, who can give birth or breast-feed. Also, it was a woman telling me about how sex = risking life for women. So, you acknowledge my #3 point as correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:07 PM
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Nobody forbids you from refusing to date guys with high "body count" either. Men and women are different biologically. There were actually some women on this very sub, who argued, that a woman "risks her life" every time she has sex, because there's always a risk of pregnancy and child-birth carries a risk for her health, or even life. Women seem to have a revulsion towards virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:26 PM
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The cosmopolitan pic is promoting delusion. It's easier to be in denial about your issues, rather than acknowledge them and treat them. That's what cosmopolitan is promoting. The second pic, though, is just selling big size clothing for fat people. It makes sense the model is fat too. She's there to show how the clothes look on a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:47 PM
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Men don’t care about who women are That's a ridiculous statement. Of course you care who she is. You need to know what kind of person she is, if you are going to have any kind of relationship, other than one night stands. If you are only interested in one night stands, maybe that's true. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:39 PM
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you know damn well that a term’s meaning is usually contextual I don't know. I know the actual meaning of the term. And while some word meanings shift, "patriarchy" is among those, that's used blatantly incorrectly. It implies a government system. Not the behaviour of individuals within a society. is a system run by a masculine social structure Ah. Well that's a loose definition. So, if the president/PM happens to be male, it's now "patriarchy"? Then all the countries with female presidents/PMs …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:52 PM
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patriarchy /ˈpeɪtrɪɑːki/ noun a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is reckoned through the male line. What you described, is a behaviour of some men. Not any sort of a system. And also, men opening up emotionally was still looked down upon How is that "patriarchy" lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:42 PM
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Some degrees pay very well, and many women have no student debt. A good chunk of men also have student debts, poor paying jobs, etc. Neither are women's issues exclusively. Of course, men don't have the option of being "sugar babies".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:37 PM
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How is any of this "patriarchy"? Do you know what that term actually means?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:36 PM
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How was it a "patriarchy" 30 years ago, and apparently isn't now? Intently listening. This should be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:29 PM
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Really now? A young, healthy woman (often with degrees) has no other choice, but to get into a loveless relationship with some rich older man? Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:28 PM
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Women are not motivated by money Tell that to all the young girls, who go after old guys with money. Men don't "use" their money in any other way, than displaying it. It's the women, who see it and get attracted. Women just want a nice guy who treats her right. Probably the oldest lie in the "dating books". Being a nice guy is a sure way of killing any sexual/romantic attraction there could have been. In my experience, what women actually want, is a guy who's not afraid to challenge them and tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:20 PM
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Well, with vague rejection, you at least state it's over. Don't leave the other person hanging. But overall, it doesn't matter. (speaking from a man's perspective) if she doesn't return your messages, doesn't communicate, you stop reaching out as well. If she gives you some bs like "don't want relationship now", "you are too good", etc., you don't torture yourself wondering why. It's over. Just move on. You've gotta value yourself and your attention. Respect yourself. Don't beg. Don't double tex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:12 PM
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Oh, I didn't mean your post. I meant the post article you linked. Will rename it for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:05 PM
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good ol’ days of the patriarchy Excuse me? What is that and when did it ever exist? If men need to use money/status to attract women Men don't "use it". Women are attracted to those things themselves. why should women be forced to remain loyal to a man she doesn’t love Why did she get together with a man she doesn't love? Why are you automatically blaming the man? And now she's somehow justified in cheating on him too? lol that's a scam for the man. Is the man also justified in cheating, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:03 PM
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The article is obviously heavily biased and doesn't provide any sources for any of this. And even then, it still implies, that the 0.1% of men is necessary :D What sort of genetic diversity with 0.1% men? How many women never get to have a partner? Would most women even want it? lol I mean, the article is most likely a troll anyways, but in reality no. Fully synthetic sperm isn't possible. You still need a man's DNA, from somewhere, and you are jumping through hoops to achieve pretty much the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:55 PM
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Could we take a longer walk/jog/bike ride? Could we go skiing, swimming, hiking? Or would she be a couch potato? Primarily, the latter is what I don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:03 AM
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Trustworthy and committed. That's the most important. Other things can be bargained. To an extent. Other traits: - physically active. - responsible and mature. - not too much of a complainer. - not an attention seeker. This is as much as I can get off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:04 AM
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Because I am active. Do various sports, do hiking, spend time outdoors. I want to share that with my girl. Do it together. I want someone, who can keep up, at least to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:58 AM
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It's highly situational. I think, as long as you read the situation well enough, almost anything can work. You succeeded both times (smooth bro, smooth). Though I'd say - don't pretend, don't look for some "cool" pickup lines. Be yourself. Don't be afraid to show your quirks. Some might not be into it, don't take it personally. Just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:12 AM
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I am talking about what's needed for healthy growth and development of boy into a man in general, not just in relation to how he treats women. Women aren't the important thing here. This doesn't concern them. Boy first needs to develop his own character, rather than have it suppressed from an young age and then grow up never really being himself. Respect has to be earned. It ain't a given. Most men more courteous towards women, and that's as much as you can give a person before you get to know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:59 AM
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Good boundaries - smart man. However, I think you've gotta apply this to yourself also. Even if you know you won't cross boundaries, still. It's not about trust. It's about respect and commitment. And being true to your principles. And I mean. If you aren't going clubbing that often anyways, why not take her with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:30 AM
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Ah that's the metaphor I was looking for and couldn't find! Thanks :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:18 AM
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The biggest mistake One of the biggest mistakes you can make, in relation to dating, is ask a woman on how to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:20 PM
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And my point is: If you truly were risking your lives every time you had sex, one would think you'd choose your sexual partners much more carefully. That you wouldn't be willing to even try, unless there's a promise of actual commitment. Sure aren't making it look like you are "risking your lives"...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:05 PM
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More simply put - men need to be themselves. Sadly, that isn't so easy, when they are conditioned to suppress who they are from a very young age, either for the sake of "fitting in", or because some psychos call their very nature "toxic".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:50 PM
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Highly disagree. What boys need, is an older example male figure in their lives. And they need to be taught to be themselves. To not try to "fit in", but rather, develop their unique personality. Oh and btw. People who satisfy themselves in public, or do those other things you mentioned - they are a tiny minority of weirdos. And no one is excusing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:48 PM
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Oh I know the risks of child-birth. Now, let's not dramatize. With modern medicine, the risk of death is quite low. And a chance of maternity-related death before, or after pregnancy is even lower. And if the danger was as high, as you make it out to be... One can't help but wonder - why are you guys having sex left and right, without a single worry, then? If you are literally risking your lives by having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:34 PM
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I think it's fair. A father needs to do A LOT during pregnancy, and for (at least) a couple of years after pregnancy. A woman is either helpless, or too preocupied with the newborn during that time to do anything. Not only that, but because of her hormones having gone haywire, a woman kinda heavily relies on her man as emotional support, during that time, too. Overall, even in these times IMHO a man does a lot more, than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:56 PM
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Which a man carries just as much of. During her hormone swings, a man will carry more of emotional "labor", actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:43 AM
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If we are talking about a married couple, what risks? If she gets pregnant, the man will be there to support her. He proved it by marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:42 AM
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As ridiculous as it is to talk about "contributions" in a marriage, or relationship in general, let's humor this: What, exactly, does a woman contribute in a relationship, that a man doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:31 AM
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Read my comment in it's entirety. It's realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:31 PM
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Tbh, I think that majority of men (like 99%) could get as much sex as they want, the problem isn't women. The problem is, that either guys are too scared, aren't going out, or have their standards WAY too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:23 AM
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Can I be blunt? Nothing below is meant as an offense to you. That guy gave you some half-arsed attention in an attempt to get into your pants. "I love you" when he doesn't even know you? And you are a foreigner to him too. If you believe those words, you are way too naive. Of course, understandable since you are so young. But for future reference, do not be so trusting of strangers, especially in another country. And as for your argument - in a way, yes. Women do like attention. And it is easy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:16 AM
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Well, there's difference between confidence and being an AH. If anything, AH behaviour (bullying, undeserved rudeness, etc) are signs of weakness or lack of manners. Despite what they may say, pretty much every woman wants a man, who takes charge, who's not afraid of them (or others), who's formidable, but doesn't needlessly mistreat others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:34 AM
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Almost correct. Just not getting the whole picture. Fear of rejection is unappealing, yes. But where does it stem from? Lack of confidence/self-value. When you lack confidence, you tend to undervalue yourself. Inferiority complex. And so, when you approach women, you come from a humble, pleading position. Like a beggar. Which immediately tells them all they need to know about you. For a man, that pretty much kills any chance of getting that woman's attraction. snaps fingers just like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:23 AM
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Disagree that it's "not a gendered thing". Men and women are attracted by slightly different things, and for woman, a little bit of shyness and humility is a plus. Movie tropes are (mostly) bs, because they rarely apply to real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:11 AM
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How is it a good thing? If you don't care, do what you will. I care. Most people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:48 PM
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Yes, you will get attached to your "sugar baby", but she will only be attached to what you can give her. That doesn't inspire loyalty either, if she's not attracted to you. If she is, that is kinda no longer "sugar" relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah, I've heard estimations, that our population would, at most, reach ~10bn until it started to drop. But as things go, it will probably never reach even that high. Good thing is, that our society will adjust as needed. Despite what you see on the media, "trad" lifestyle is on the rise in the west, and most of Europe always remained more conservative to begin with. Even now, you shouldn't generalize all women like that. Yes, there are the rotten ones, but there are also many decent ones out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:50 PM
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It is often boring (YOU have to be her entertainer) at best And this is your problem, my friend. You sell yourself short, and that's why you think being an "orbiter" is acceptable. It's self-demeaning. Find value in yourself, and begin respecting yourself. And let them entertain you. If she's clearly not into you, stop giving her attention. Move on. Hell, in some cases, that will attract a woman and make her chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:41 PM
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If men would've "turned off" their sex drive at any time in history, our species would've died out. Same applies to modern day. This already proves your statement about male sexuality being "a burden" wrong. Easy sexual access No thanks, not into it. We can drink beers, be bros, but that's it. Gay marriages last much longer Source? Men are easier to deal with Except, no healthy man wants to take the role of a submissive female (which I assume still needs to happen in gay relationships). imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:32 PM
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No thanks, I'd rather just hire an escort. Cheaper, no attachment ambiguity, safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:22 PM
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A few things to unpack here. Your title is what doesn't make sense to me. Of course a straight guy won't be into gay relationships. That's what the term means. What are "LGBT rights"? What rights do LGBT folk not get in your opinion? What is "homophobia"? If, as a straight guy, I say I am repulsed by gay relationships, is that considered homophobic? EDIT: also, the reason you give for straight guys to promote LGBT isn't viable, either. If some guy is "closeted", he's probably not interested in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:15 PM
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1) Most beautiful women I met in my life were 28 - 37. For real. 2) How do you think all the older couples stay together for 30, 40, 50 or more years? Just for the kids? No. They are partners in life. The relationship goes much deeper than just physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:46 AM
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Why would either men or women stay with one another for lifetime? Because they love each other as people. This whole outlook - "what can you bring to the table", sounds so bizarre to me. Relationships aren't business transactions. If you treat them as such, expect failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:28 PM
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Men and women can be deceitful. Personally, I tend to not trust people, who virtue signal a lot. You know that person is compensating for something, or trying too much to appear a "good guy/girl". It's a big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:50 AM
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Problem with such generalized statements, is that most people can quickly disprove them simply with personal experience. How many dudes among my family and friends, who aren't looking remarkable (or even below average) have gotten together with pretty women... I myself am far from being Brad Pitt, yet didn't have problems with getting female attention. I'd say your attitude matters as much, if not more, than your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:46 AM
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How can you "enjoy" food? Food is food. It's not entertainment. If people ditched this mindset of "enjoying" food, they'd have easier time keeping their weight in check. So it's not really a positive trait at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:41 AM
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Exactly BECAUSE weight is a "changeable characteristic", I expect them to keep it within healthy boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:39 AM
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Possibly. Not sure if it was there from the beginning, but in modern time, it seems feminists think it's "empowering" for a woman to be promiscuous. Though in reality, I have a suspicion that (some) feminists just feel self-conscious when they see a woman, who respects herself and made better choices in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:40 PM
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Conception requires both a man and a woman. A baby doesn't magically spawn in your womb. And the bit about "patriarchy" holding women down... Care to explain how, in your opinion, was that done? And when? I wonder how queen Victoria was "held down" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:30 PM
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Hookup culture came as a result of the sexual revolution, started around mid 20th century by Alfred Kinsey (spicy fellow) and his ilk of depraved individuals. It's one of the reasons for the abysmal state of relationships in the west today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:23 PM
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Is this satire? Why in the world would men "serve the feminine"? When did men ever "serve the feminine" in history? Men and women always worked together, each to their strengths, with men being better protectors, leaders and providers, and women being better nurturers. There never was some "patriarchy" or "matriarchy". There was society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:18 PM
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Not in a sexual way, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:06 PM
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You should ask WHAT is responsible. And that's biology. Beauty "standards" isn't some artificial concept, maybe asides from SOME hairstyles and clothes fashion. And talking about cosmetics, plastic surgeries, etc. - probably big corporations and their advertising (including popular media). If you were to ask men, a lot would tell you they prefer no-makeup. A lot of people would also tell you, that plastic surgeries only make you look weirder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:13 AM
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Most guys will accept most women, as long as those women aren't obese. Hell, some guys are actually into that as well. So yeah. Men's standards are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:07 AM
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Succesful is a weird term, but it's pretty straight forward - if you are in a relationship, that fulfills you, you are succesful. This applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:55 AM
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Worked for millennia, regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:42 AM
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Nah, people in the 90s were excited about internet, and the ability to instantly talk to someone far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:41 AM
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No one will be abandoning human relationships for some piece of electronics. Majority of people aren't crazy enough to unironically be into toasters and chatbots. And never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:28 PM
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Personally I think, that the "no sex before marriage" rule is rather smart, and ultimately beneficial to society. Thinking about it, it's kinda hilarious how much is tied to it. Just imagine, for example, how different young men would act if women weren't willing to sleep with them until proper commitment? Suddenly, a young chap gains a remarkable amount of motivation to get his life in order, because that's the only way he'd get any woman actually willing to commit to him! And promiscuity would…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:10 PM
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Your source isn't very reliable, though. Not only is it just a comment, without any real sources, but it uses the words "estimate". Wrigley's research methods are also questionable, according to a comment below (since we use comments as sources anyways), and it does in fact provide a source! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:01 PM
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That is tyrannical control, that you are proposing. And you are misidentifying the problem I believe. As long as people's choices only hurt those people alone, who cares what they do? The few problems I CAN acknowledge, are: - unfair family courts; - false SA accusations. But the point is, that to solve these problems, you need to change our justice system, instead of going full dictator on all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:18 PM
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Now, let's be reasonable. There are both men and women, who act like kids. Hell, every one of us act like kids every once in a while. Also, I am curious - what, exactly, does your solution entail, OP? Do we, men, just treat them differently, or are you proposing to have the government limit women's rights and freedoms? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:47 PM
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Yeah, some people around here use those terms, thinking they are so smart. In reality, these terms are mostly meaningless, because they are inaccurate. I've seen way too many people get with other people, that SUPPOSEDLY should be way out of their "league". I've personally gotten hit on by women, that according to these guys, should have utterly no interest in me, in my life. There's a hell of a lot more to attraction and relationships, than the typical criteria of SMV. This is not to say, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:55 AM
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Men consider muscular dudes attractive, because it's respectable. You know how much effort and dedication it took to get that. Other than that, this is a hugely subjective topic, yet you are acting like you have some sort of authority over judging men's attractiveness. Even going as far as calling other guys "delusional". You are the delusional one, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:07 PM
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I'd rather think you have it backwards. You can interpret the stories how you want, and granted, there were always promiscuous people, but they were never the rule. People were actually very "conservative" prior to the fall of Berlin's wall, with a belief of "no sex before marriage". Women, who weren't working in brothels, were often shamed for sleeping around out of wedlock, and "bastard" was an actual term, that carried weight. Around the middle of the 20th century a change happened, whether g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:54 PM
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And you immediately jump to the conclusion it's about the jews :D Oh the sweet irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:42 PM
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I think so, yeah. For a few reasons. 1) You are becoming too reliant on him, too early. Makes the relationship unbalanced and puts pressure on you to stay together. And take in mind, that you don't even know him at that point. 2) You are rushing the relationship. You don't even know the guy, yet you are giving your all to him. Relationships should be taken slower. There should be a proper courting phase. That would automatically rule out guys, who only want to sleep with you, and it would make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:19 AM
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I don't know about TRP, but for me, it has nothing to do with that. Rather, if a woman has had LOTS of sexual partners, I don't consider her a good potential long-term partner. For quick flings, it doesn't matter one bit. For long-term relationship? I need to trust a woman for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:36 PM
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you seem like some delusional boomer Nah, I am from a younger generation. And funny you should talk about delusions, because you are clinging to yours really hard, dude :D I am not speaking out of my rear. I am speaking from experience. My own experience (below average height), my friends, relatives. Granted, maybe you are an american, maybe things are different there. But I'll tell you dude - I'd not have wanted to be born a female. No offense to women, but I wouldn't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:13 PM
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Mate. Your problem is not your looks, but your defeatist, self-demeaning attitude. That's your most unattractive trait. And you've gotta realize - your attitude also influences your looks. Lack of confidence and self-worth is physically visible. I am only of average height - women don't "drool" over average men Utterly not true. If you have a nice body, you can be below average height, and you'll still be attractive. men without supermodel bodies are seen as sexually worthless Haha, tell that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:52 PM
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Men are sexually worthless Dude. Hit the gym, groom yourself up. When you see girls borderline drooling at you, you won't say this again. And you don't necessarily need supermodel body, either. There's a lot of things, that influence attraction. Point is, that your statement here is very ignorant. Women can do everything men can Talking about physical activities, that's not true. And even talking about more technical works, vast majority of people getting into them are men. Women are much better…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:25 PM
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If that's what you want to think about yourself, I won't try to stop you, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:10 PM
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What, exactly, counts as "attention-seeking behaviour"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:58 PM
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No, I said I don't see a problem with more men approaching women, than the other way around. If a woman is exclusive with me, she won't act like she's single. If she does, means she doesn't respect me. If she doesn't respect me, I leave. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:48 PM
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That's possible. Though I think, that it has more to do with guys simply being more bold in this, rather than anything else. And, ultimately, I don't see much of a problem with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:59 PM
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"Cap"? If you are trying to say I'm lying, I'm not. I've no reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:33 PM
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Women don't approach men, they put themselves in a position to be approached. AKA the club. They don't DM men, they put themselves in a position to get DMs from men, AKA Instagram. Even as a not-overly-attractive guy, I got approached plenty. That alone disproves broad, generalized statements like this. And this isn't some anomaly, either. I highly suggest getting off internet, getting over your resentment, and talking to people outside. Internet and dating apps really do skew your perception. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:04 PM
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Why is this an invalid concern? My words, that you quoted, answer this question: "Unless there's someone camping your trashcans 24/7" You literally have minutes to take it, and move it somewhere, that will keep it alive. It's an unrealistic scenario and ridiculous to even consider. And I've never heard this thing about celebrity men, but if they really do that, they are either paranoid, or it's some sort of a sick publicity stunt. EDIT: it's 15 to 30 minutes in wet, warm environment, i.e. perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:15 PM
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within the female reproductive tract We were exploring the scenario, where you didn't have sex with the woman. Did you forget? You can get pregnant from stealing someone's sperm without having sex Outside a human body, sperm will die within minutes. So, my point stands: Unless there's someone camping your trashcans 24/7, this is an invalid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:07 PM
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Sperm dies within minutes outside human body. Thus, invalid question. Unless you have a very persistent stalker, who's camping your trash cans all the time. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:00 PM
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Sorry, but you are talking nonsense. If you don't intend to have kids with a person, the best action is to not have sex with them. That's the ONLY 100% birth-control measure. The mindless animal solution would be to throw your hands up and say “should’ve suppressed your nature” Acting with intelligence and responsibility is "mindless animal solution"? I am an "animal" for suggesting you should keep it in your pants? Dude lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:58 PM
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Newsflash: the natural consequence of sex is pregnancy. Breaking news, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:23 PM
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Yeah, probably... but such questions just make modern society seem so ridiculous to me. If you are that afraid of the natural consequences of this action, WHY are you "sticking it" in that woman, in the first place? Can we no longer act responsibly, with self-restraint? Have we regressed back to mindless animals? All of these problems just because it's inconceivable to people, that you could simply abstain from hooking up with strangers/untrustworthy individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:16 PM
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Whole point of this advice, is that men are looking for something more, than just casual hookups. To build real connections, to meet people with common interests. There's nothing "creepy" about it. Seems to me, like you are projecting some personal problems, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:30 AM
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I think, traditional people shouldn't look at what their potential partner can give them, but rather, what kind of person he/she is. Traditional people accept the responsibility of a committed relationship. Your partner is your priority. Cheating is out of the question. And the couple actually works on communicating and fixing their issues, rather than running off at the first sign of trouble. Traditional people don't immediately expect to have a perfect partner, and a perfect married life. Espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:42 PM
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Without commitment and reliability, relationships would be pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:27 PM
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Maybe stop trying to dictate men (or women, for that matter) what they should, or shouldn't be like? We are individuals, and we are what we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:49 PM
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I've met dudes, who basically had no strong opinion of their own. Any time I, or anyone else, would challenge them, they'd cave instantly and start backpedaling, instead of defending their point. Which is, honestly, annoying and pathetic. Also, some people act in a way, that just puts you in a situation, where you owe them. It's uncomfortable, especially if you aren't that close to those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:37 PM
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Dudes who bitch about body count always construct these types of scenarios where women are fucking dudes in the most extreme way possible. "Most extreme way possible"? That's your words. My "football team" analogy was, again, to say it's a lot. That was my point from the beginning. And I explained why I don't find people with lots of past partners reliable twice over, by now. You have yet to explain how this is "ego" or "insecurity", but I doubt you will, at this point. At the end of the day, le…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:12 PM
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The number was just hypothetical. I simply meant, a lot. And alright, it's not a big deal to you. That's your opinion. In my opinion, though, you can call it "casual" all you want. Whether you used protection, or not, doesn't matter. Just such outlook on relationships seems irresponsible to me. Oh, you F'd around with entire football teams before, but now you are ready to settle down for good? Those past hook-ups meant nothing to you? It's so easy to discard people you were intimate with? How wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:27 PM
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The only measure I accept is condom. Virtually no side-effects and the protection is sufficient. Firmly against pills, for either men or women. Firmly against surgical intervention. Ultimately, I think responsibility and self-restraint should be practiced (don't have sex unless you are ready for kids), but if you must have it, use a rubber.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:33 PM
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I think there is some ego involved, but not in this way. And, mind you, women have this ego, as well. Think about it, what are the reasons, that you go for the most attractive women, even if they may have a dozen red-flags? Trophy. You want a trophy woman. Women do the same thing. Go after most attractive (looks and finance wise) men to parade them around. Trophy partners. That's pure ego, yes. That usually leads to unhealthy relationship, too. Now, talking about men refusing to date women, who …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:49 AM
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Not that I endorse this, but I can see where you are coming from. There's a different power dynamic between this case, and, say, if the genders were reversed. It's very unlikely, that the boy was forced into intercourse against his will. At the same time, the boy's just a hormonal teenager, at the beginning of his teens. It's a question if he understood all the ramifications of what they were doing, and the possible consequences. Because of this, I do think, that this should not be excused. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:12 AM
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Not quite. Owner doesn't just sit on his rear and do nothing. He has lots of responsibilities, including managing the manager :D. The manager has lower level responsibilities. A marriage is not a business. The man is not the owner of his family. Rather, him and his wife are partners in life. Freeloading is not dominance. Being an AH is not dominance. If anything, failing to take up responsibility, is a sign of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:09 PM
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I think, both men and women want a reliable, trustworthy partner. First of all. Before going further, I'll also point out, that this matters immensely on the region we are talking about. East/North-East Europe (minus Scandinavia) is much more "traditional". Having said that: Most men want the woman to pay half Some? yes. Most? probably not. Many guys out there would feel uncomfortable with having the woman pay, like it's rude, or shameful. ​ traditional man is the one doing all the work like a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:43 PM
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