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Question For MenGraceOfTheNorth/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:42 PM
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I was surprised to see that I have been unbanned from this community because I had rightfully pointed to a study that showed similarities between men who get redpilled and men who get radicalized in other political ways (incl. religion). I cannot quickly find the exact study but you'll see a lot of material supporting this if you google "study low emotional intelligence red pill" Lower emotional intelligence and lower cognitive abilities are linked to increased authoritarian views, inability to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:08 AM
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You date a man who can function as an adult. This whole thread is so depressing, women/girls dating men who could not care less about them or doing the bare minimums of adulting.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/25 01:57 AM
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Why are you dating a man who cannot function as an adult? You'll end up paying for the food as well as cooking the food that he eats and get nothing but disrespect in kind.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/25 01:55 AM
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Who pays for the food when you go shopping? You or him? If you pay do you take the food with you or eat it while at his place or does he eat the food? It sounds like you are dating a loser, sorry for speaking so bluntly.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/25 01:52 AM
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No, but I'd say it was a red flag if he had no savings in case of emergency, let alone debt. A lot of people fail at this and it depresses me to no end to see women go into debt because of consumerism. IMO they're undatable while those spending habits are ongoing, let alone accruing. I know Americans see this differently from the rest of the world but I would never date someone who had gone into debt on a new car and that was his/her only 'asset'. That's one of those massively bad financial deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:16 PM
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I don't care why they're assholes. I just know that they leave a trail of victims. I really don't give a fuck about their boo-hoos. I care about their victims who did nothing to deserve this kind of treatment. Shows where your compassions lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:07 PM
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Bring the facts then. You have not done that, all you're doing is "Notallmen" and that is no argument. Not all men but sure as heck those who cannot accept other people's rights to their own opinions. You will not wear me down, all you're doing here is show me that this sub is full of dysfunctional redpiller audistic men. What a glowing recommendation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:06 PM
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And? That doesn't excuse this level of ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:02 PM
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JFC, y'all are a living testament to the pressures women are under to cater to men. I just read research that confirmed that Red Pill men have lower emotional intelligence than other man and you guys are proving that right over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:18 PM
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Women are counted in numbers, not amounts. While there are plenty of people with shitty partners still trying to make it work the number of women choosing to be single has never been higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:54 PM
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Feminism exalts women doing what best for a woman to the exclusion of what’s best for society. This is incorrect. Look at countries like the Nordics with high equality, prosperity and quality of life. Those are countries where both parents work and the state has been used to create a framework that benefits FAMILIES with children being the focal point, then the adults. You speak as if women aren't making great sacrifices to make that happen. Women are not only working almost equal hours outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:50 PM
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It is also really telling when guys speak of "women's rights" as something different than their own human rights. We ALL benefit from other people having fundamental rights - my right to self-determination over my own body and ownership of the fruits of my labor, that shouldn't be a threat to anyone... except if they don't see me as a full human equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:36 PM
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As long as you treated them with respect and both were adult parties free to make their own decisions, I have absolutely no problem with that. The problem people have with prostitution is mostly that there is so much coercion involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:33 PM
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how you can't ever tell when a hot asshole is deceitful but you can all of the sudden tell when an ugly asshole is deceitful? Where are you getting this from? Your assumptions about the 'gratitude' of ugly men is simply incorrect, any woman will tell you that. Surprise surprise, most women are also average to ugly looking so an ugly man will abuse an ugly woman if he's unhappy with his own situation in life. You cannot both expect women to be walking lie-detectors and also blame them for choosin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:23 PM
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Women expect respect and equal partnership. And to be attracted to their man. This should be the absolute minimum in a relationship, but the respect part, the equal contribution part, being a partner - this seems to be more than a lot of men can handle. Which is why women are increasingly choosing to remain single since they're no longer deprived of resources to survive. You shouldn't have to starve someone to be with you because they're not allowed economic agency and the same right to property…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:17 PM
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Where are you getting that this behavior is an outlier? Ugly guys are even more likely to abuse women because of their insecurities. They think they need to break the woman into thinking she's worthless or she'll leave him. You cannot both tell women to choose better and then complain about higher standards. And blame women for choosing men who are deceitful assholes when these dudes are deliberately hiding who they are, putting on an act to hook her only to then reveal how toxic they are. Stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:07 PM
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There are plenty of echo chambers like that here on Reddit. I see you really dislike it when women have a different point of view and dare take the debate, let alone win it. It is fair to assume you take this very same approach when you date a woman and she has a mind of her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:01 PM
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I have never ever seen women here use that kind of straw-men arguments here, conversely I see the men/boys here assume that this is what women are looking for. They are not, they are looking for respect and partnerships, as is evident in all the medium to meh looking men in successful relationships. Women are choosing better partners and when they can't be found they choose to be alone - only to be told to lower their standards. No, we should ABSOLUTELY NOT LOWER OUR STANDARDS. Because it is way…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:57 AM
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tl;dr "This is how I justify abuse"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:47 AM
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Classic abuser justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:46 AM
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Did your dad prove his love to your mom by beating her up. Some people are so twisted in their head they think love is proven by the amount of abuse they accept from the other person. Utterly sickening abuser mentality. This is precisely how abusers justify being sadistic little fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:45 AM
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What you're showing here is an abuser's mentality. You're literally saying that you should abuse a woman to test if she really likes you. That is some seriously fucked up mentality. How many women have you treated like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:43 AM
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Well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 11:39 PM
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Straw man ad-hominem, how expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:45 PM
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So you're generalizing about women based on some obscure kink site without even citing the source. ed. also, it is very likely a good portion of those comments were made by professionals looking for customers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:37 PM
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Cite your sources. You are cherry picking 'evidence' for your delusional opinions without providing any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:58 PM
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Where is he getting that from? Cite your sources. This guy sounds like he's a danger to women. Walking around with assumptions like that literally gets women killed by guys who think "she wants it" and then don't believe her when she doesn't want it. Way too many men think a woman's no is just something to steamroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:28 PM
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Cite your sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:25 PM
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You are delusional and frankly a danger to women. STAY AWAY FROM WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:23 PM
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It's one of those cat = female, dog = male kind of assumptions. Probably because cats protected the food from rodents and insects, while dogs help in farming and hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:22 PM
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It works for women, you have to have milk glands for it so this was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion for a man. But women can do it without having a baby, this wonder of nature has saved many babies throughout the centuries. Most mammals can do this, it happens quite frequently with cats and dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:28 PM
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I know, I just want to get pictures of you guys trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:26 PM
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Yes, get a friend to start sucking and you'll start lactating within two weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:22 PM
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In what social corner is it not controversial? Amongst teenagers and swingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:34 PM
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True, which is why the male-female ratio at nude beaches is 80-20. Most women aren't interested in either nude beaches or flashing their boobs at parties. I don't know a single woman who would do that, but some couples I know might briefly visit a nude or topless beach for a day. America especially is really into sexualizing bodies, like all these dudes thinking nursing a baby is somehow sexual and not the most basic nurturing thing a mammal can do. Breasts were literally made for feeding babies…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:33 PM
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No. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:20 PM
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One was a FWB for a few months, lifelong friend after that. None were rebounds, there was a genuine connection there. I would say I was the instigator of taking it to the next level with them admitting they didn't shoot their shot bc they assumed I was out of their league. Which would have held true if looks was all I cared about, but it was their character and qualities that was attractive to me. Out of all of the character traits I'd say most attractive are optimism and being able to find some…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:17 PM
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you pretty much did. And then you started hurling insults at your political opponents, revealing more of your 'charming' personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:40 AM
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Sure, now do Fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:16 AM
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I can't help that you're full of prejudice. That's a problem on your end, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:07 AM
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Who is advocating for Communism? That is some weird assumption-jumping based on criticism of Capitalism - there are other options than tyranny of the state vs. tyranny of the rich. I didn't recommend monarchy either, in case you want to jump there next.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:02 AM
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I'm not wasting intelligence on that poor attempt to deny the link between misogyny and violence against women. There is no discussion to have with people who deny reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:50 PM
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CAPITALISM, not society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:24 PM
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You really cannot connect the dots between violence against women by the hands of misogynistic men with misogyny. Don't act dumb. Misogyny is at the core of violence against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:19 PM
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Just look at Hank Green's view on knitting, how he mansplained knit-work as something trivial knitters had been doing 'on instinct' instead of it being at the core of practical science. Women's accomplishments and insights are labeled as "instinctive" whereas man use their big brain to make discoveries - because these dude truly cannot fathom that women could be intelligent and deliberate in their craft. In reality knitting heavily relies on the scientific method, from farming, wool-processing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:50 PM
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You clearly do not have a clue what is going on in women's lives. You as a man cannot decide for women whether misogyny is a problem or not. We have endless examples - from the murder stats to domestic violence, to unequal division of labor to limited legal rights over out own bodies. Women are literally dying because of an abortion ban in the US and you claim misogyny is not a problem. GMAFB, you are not tethered to reality. ICE-imposters have kidnapped DOZENS OF WOMEN AND SOLD INTO HUMAN TRAFF…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:44 PM
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Yes, I also dated very handsome men. I'm single but dating by choice. I've got stuff to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:39 PM
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A LOT of relationships start with friendship. It is one of the most solid foundations of a relationship. A man who doesn't immediately hit that attraction spot can become attractive really fast if his personality is attractive. I've been called beautiful my whole life and I've dated some barely mediocre looking guys, but they were smart, intelligent and funny and that made them become attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:28 PM
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We're not dealing with rationality here. We're dealing with dudes who are constantly in their feelings. They're pessimistic, deterministic and looking for excuses not to put any work into being a better version of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:39 PM
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Sadly the younger generation has weaponized the diagnosis where the older would suck it up and try to mask and act normal enough to function. People need to be internally motivated to overcome our challenges and it takes loads of work and courage to face oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:48 PM
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I stated my own experience. That is not ignorance. That is knowledge. I can't help that your feelings got hurt. You're going to have to move on and stop lashing out. You're not exactly proving my point wrong. Quite the opposite. Have the self-awareness and humility to accept that other people have different opinions and experiences. Nobody said all autistic men were bad fathers, I simply described my experience. And I know a lot of autistic men. If they are stubborn and pessimistic they are hell…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:41 PM
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But "random women" ARE being assaulted by random men. But mostly by the men in their lives, their boyfriends, husbands and exes. Men pose a threat to women for an array of reasons. You're here talking as if this violence is somehow justifiable because ShE ToOk HiS MoNeY. If that's not your point then your point is: she shouldn't have engaged with men. Which leads us to women avoiding men and the endless whining we see here and elsewhere over women doing exactly that. There is no way for women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:16 PM
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Also - most women are killed by their husband, boyfriend or ex-man, not a stranger or stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:13 PM
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Here we go again. Men are really salty about women suddenly having choices instead of being forced to raise a child while the man bails on responsibilities. Nobody is forcing men to be involved, just financially liable for his own actions. Instead of seeing that men benefit from women's choice it bothers many men that the power over the decision is not fully theirs. It irks them that women have gained a choice. Without women's access to abortions there would be WAAAAY more unwanted fathers. Be g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:07 PM
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Yes, be glad for that. Those fetuses are not missed by the sperm donor either. People who are forced to have kids that they don't want make HORRIBLE parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:49 PM
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I would expect this kind of behavior from them. Instead of accepting that people have different lived experiences you tried to berate me for telling the truth. This is a very common pattern: not allowing others to have an opinion that doesn't match your own. Minimizing my experiences and feelings based on your FEELINGS and unwillingness to hear anything that doesn't match your own opinion. I is so very telling that you cannot even see how inappropriate your responses are. Perfectly on brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:17 PM
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You don't know what ableism is. This is my experience based on several men over several decades. Defensive, self-centered, unwilling to compromise, moody, prone to paranoia and obsessive thinking. Physical punishments, zero emotional intelligence, zero ability to support others or even show up for your kids to anything. Their needs always taking priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:00 PM
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Women don't leave their kids, they leave their husbands. BIG difference. Men are WAAAAAY more likely to leave their families, but are slightly less likely to do so if they have boys than if they have girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:57 PM
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Shame on you for trying to invalidate my lived experience just because it hurts your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:54 PM
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From my experience they make horrible fathers. There are a few in my family and they always think of themselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:39 PM
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Not true, I've lived in the Nordics most of my life. They have a very high standard of living. Americans have been tricked into thinking economic numbers equal success, the Nordics value different measurables like education, public healthcare, happiness, housing, unemployment etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:09 PM
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Since I've lived in the Nordics for most of my life I can also confirm that our goal is not more people for the sake of becoming bigger and more powerful, the emphasis is on providing a quality of life for the people we already have. Most populations in the West are growing in numbers due to immigration. Africa is growing exponentially and it has created a system of food-donations and famine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:07 PM
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That's driven by immigrants. In 1-2 generations the birth rate drops.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:04 PM
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I hope you do realize that these are your assumptions, not mine. I'm used to red-pillers making heaps of negative assumptions about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:59 PM
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That is your assumption. I said "mother anyone", not step kids and not their man either. They're free from people who expect women to provide free adulting services. Men don't like free-loading women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:01 PM
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No, single women are happier because they're in charge of their lives. They own their own time, money and energy and aren't expected to mother anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:32 PM
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The thing is, most women do want kids, but they don't want the current system of having to do the baby-growing, baby-birthing, caretaking and raising, in addition to domestic work while being punished financially. In most countries that are trying to get people to have more kids the government responds with more help for families with kids, tax deductions, child support, cheap daycare, maternity and paternity leaves, public education etc. etc. But in the USA capitalism has burned through society…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:39 AM
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I'm curious what makes you identify as a red-piller. Because this is a very based neutral take. I've noticed that men who complain about women having too high standards are typically men who refuse to lower their own standards to women with lower status or standards. Most of us could get "someone" if we just dropped our standards, but most people don't just want 'someone' but a person we vibe with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:35 AM
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We are talking about a specific kind of man here, not all men. We're talking about a type that is way too common - men who don't realize that they cannot have both a working wife and a wife that does all the domestic work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:32 AM
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Sour grapes. You're telling on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:04 AM
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You do realize men have arms and a brain and the capability to DO OTHER WORK INSTEAD, for example shoulder the burdens that a pregnant woman and a new mother simply cannot do because of their physical state. Way too many men act like women should be both growing and raising the kids while working full time and contributing 50-50 - but they also think the woman should do most of the work at home and that a man's role is just to 'help' and not do half the work. I've posted several links here to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:51 AM
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Nobody is blaming men for that. Don't act dumb. We're blaming men for being lazy and entitled. For not pulling their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:16 AM
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Clearly you know nothing. India and China literally prove the point wrong that women benefit from scarcity. Way too many men are evil to the core.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:14 AM
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Show me this research because there are literally dozens of reports who disprove that. It's official: women work nearly an hour longer than men every day https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/06/its-official-women-work-nearly-an-hour-longer-than-men-every-day/ Women work 39 days more than men a year report finds https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37767411 You are speaking against the evidence. Men work longer PAID hours, total work, women do a lot more. And divorced women know that men create a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:02 PM
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Women pull their own weight, they don't need a man, they WANT to have the right man. In exchange the man needs to be a partner, and that is often lacking. A lot of modern men seem to think that women should both work outside of the home, also carry the children and raise the kids AND do all the domestic work too. This is a leading reason for burnout and breakups. I'm not saying many men don't live in reverse situations, I'm saying that women are fed up with men who can't adapt to equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:35 PM
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Look at India and China. Do you think women are benefitting from scarcity there? The violence is unbelievable in India. Acid attacks, gang rapes, women raped and cut to pieces. It is cruelty on a different level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:30 PM
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That is a whole lot of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:13 PM
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I judge the men way harder because of all the violence and coercion involved in prostitution. So many women and little girls are trafficked to men who do not give a frick about abusing slaves for their own gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:55 AM
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Because 'loose' women aren't praying on weak people and doing unimaginably cruel things to them under the justification that they paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:53 AM
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Yes. And dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:11 PM
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There aren't even enough men who treat women as people to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:17 PM
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Wow, you're so edgy, what a rebel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:07 PM
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Russia is most certainly trying to light the match that set the whole powder keg ablaze. But the monetization of hateful speech and propaganda on social media provides plenty of incentives in itself. Big platforms provide the systems - and system failures - that extremists and adversaries take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:24 PM
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Two reasons: I saw research quoted some couple of years ago that had found out that when women feel they have to 'mother' their men they lose attraction to him. They go into a different 'box' in women's head so instead of feeling like a partner or even like the man is a protector, they feel like he's just another child. Second reason is that if you feel a burning sense of injustice over the division of labor or state of the relationship, that is a real ladyboner killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:34 PM
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It's deeper than just dating issues. Manufacturing jobs and the kind of work that men used to do has increasingly moved to Asia/the developing world. At the same time education has not been updated to meet the different needs of society or men, as women dominate the teaching profession and underestimate the needs of boys they feel more and more alienated. But instead of men banding together to solve the problem it seems they have a very hard time organizing around how to improve it. Probably bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:32 PM
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Russia runs elaborate campaigns to foster hostility between the sexes. The more chaos and harm they can create the more they drill on the issues. Making men hostile towards women is one of the most destabilizing things you can do to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:17 PM
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A lot of men fake romantic interest when they're only looking for sex. They're no better than a person who lies to get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:00 PM
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Sure, most men are unfit for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:27 AM
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Same story, the moment someone starts complimenting me is the moment I remove myself from the situation because it's always an entry into a come-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:07 PM
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roflmao, nice try kid No wait, most young men have lost the ability to even finish a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:12 AM
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An egg is not a chicken and a fetus is not a baby. Why are you here bullying women in women's spaces? Is it because you're an abusive little fuck you cannot leave women alone? It says a lot that you know you leave victims. That tells me a lot about your behavior towards women. You're so bitter you cannot even try to curb your nasty little personality. FOH
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 10:13 PM
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This is just more of men refusing to take responsibility for themselves. Instead of being the good guys you get offended... probably because you think they're talking about you. That says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:13 PM
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Women are feeling the brunt of men's violence. We are very well aware of men and their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:11 PM
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And I had to chew gum too!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:39 PM
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nobody is reading that, funny you thought anyone would
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:29 PM
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I know no women that fit OP's description.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:05 AM
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Funny how you spew misogyny so casually and don't realize that you are telling on yourself. Also hilarious to see men here endlessly complaining about women - but the moment we point out that physical domestic violence and murder is 95% men harming women, vs. 5% women women harming men. The logic "men also harm other men" has no bearing, it shouldn't be women's problem that some men are violent. That is not some natural law, that's men being unable to control their own feelings. Even though I se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:27 PM
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Not OP but I've had plenty of delusional men hit on me and be persistent after a polite rejection or deflection, usually the dumber the guy the more delusional he is. I see no reason to humiliate a man for shooting his shot, it takes guts to put yourself on the line, and I disagree when women go immediately to shaming. But often the polite hints and rejection is ignored so nothing seems to get through but being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:59 AM
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That was embarrassing for you. Men are endlessly emotional and irrational, for example in their anger. Just because YOU don't understand women that doesn't mean women are stupid or not logical, that just means that YOU don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:15 PM
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You just confirmed men are a threat to both men and women. Not the 'own' you thought it was. Your attempt to diss me with "nobody wants you anyway" is pathetic and factually wrong. It's just embarrassing for you to make such stupid assumptions. Your lack of knowledge about biology and history is very telling. Try reading a book. I recommend The Prehistory of Sex, but I doubt you'll understand it. You've lost this debate. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:00 PM
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We're not talking about quiet, introverted guys though. We're talking about men who cannot maintain a bare minimum standard of hygiene, keep down a job and are generally unfit partners. A lot of shitty men lie to women and they only find out about it later. You cannot blame women for not being human lie detectors and mistrust everything men say. The horrible men usually hide their horrible sides until the woman is emotionally hooked. For some reason both men and women tend to stay with horrible …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:22 PM
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You must be really uneducated because this is a simple fact of life. For men sex is high-reward because they're pretty much guaranteed an orgasm, but they usually don't get killed or become pregnant, ruining their bodies or even taking their life. This is why men seek sex. For women sex is low-reward because an orgasm is not guaranteed (and rarely shows up except in longer relationships) but they can easily catch something or become pregnant, which has great negative effects on the body on top o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 09:06 AM
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roflmao, I'm so over that. I get myself off better than they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:51 AM
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This sounds like arguments for maintaining low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:47 PM
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Most women are not thirsting over men, we get excessive offers for sex from the whole range of men. It is not a compliment, it is a nuisance. For men sex is high-reward and low cost, for women sex is high-risk with low reward. The motivation is totally different so you really need to stop taking it personally that women aren't lusting after men like men lust after women. Basic hygiene is a test of awareness and functionality. Nobody should have to tell another person to groom, exercise or take c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:45 PM
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I've seen at least 5 different guys at work be approached by HR because of their excessive body odor. Different workplaces, different industries, same bloody problem. There is always one or two guys who don't seem to shower or wash their clothes. Never had this problem with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:39 PM
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Men are constantly complaining that women won't date them and then turn around and show us exactly why we're better off on our own. I pay special attention when men warn me about other men, they know what men are all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:37 PM
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This is why most of the guys on this sub are miserable. A lot of guys are assholes, a lot of guys hide that they are massive assholes and only pretend to be nice. It has been revealed here again and again that a lot of men are just ACTING nice when they are not nice people. I'm so glad women are getting wise to men's bullshit and sharing information online. It says a lot about men just how triggered they are that women are choosing themselves over shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:32 PM
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I don't think so, I think you are generalizing based on some weird pocket of women that I have absolutely no connection with and have never experienced myself except watching them on screen on some stupid reality tv show.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:31 PM
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The top three reasons are: Cheating, financial issues and she's burned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:30 PM
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You are the one confusing marriage with wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:28 PM
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This is not every woman's dream. You literally sound dangerous to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:12 AM
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I wish men would simply tell us this way sooner - because most women are actually nice because life is way better that way. Great to get it confirmed that men's 'niceness' is self-serving fakery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:02 AM
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See, there is the difference between some men and most women: you think being nice is being fake - because you are not a nice person. We are good people, that's why we have friends. You really need to think about what you're saying about yourself when you reveal your inner man like that. ed. and for the record: friendly interactions are the default norm, not fucking anyone in sight. The fuckzone is the abnorm, the friend zone is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:55 PM
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"game the system" - what system is that? are you talking about deceiving women for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:35 PM
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It is absolutely a common expectation nowadays - guys just SAY that they're all for equality but then they turn around and don't do their fair share. A lot of guys use weaponized incompetence and unreliability to get out of adulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:32 PM
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I'm seeing this on the relationship subs over and over again. Men who refuse to do anything around their own house and act like them going to work - just like she does too - is enough while she should be taking on loads of extra work. it is a guaranteed-divorce mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:27 PM
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Sorry, men don't grant me human rights. You do. not have that authority. Get the frick over yourself. You control yourself, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:15 AM
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I'm a liberal woman but I've seen enough of gay culture to not date a bi man. I would assume he was fucking guys on the dl behind my back. That is what the evidence points to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:06 AM
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Most have been in at least one relationship ever. But it went to shit somehow because of her 'disloyalty' or something... mostly women's refusal to mother their supposed partners. It is insane how many guys think women owe them services just because they're women. Peak entitlement and delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:47 PM
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I'm not the one constantly whining here about men. I address them as the need comes up, but my life would be pretty pathetic if I felt the need to make posts to shit talk men - y'all don't need any help with men's bad PR.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:21 PM
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You are assuming that autistic girls struggle less, that is your assumption based on pure ignorance about their condition and situations. But I see the victim complex shining through, because at the end of the day this is about narcissistic whining, always the hero and the victim, never taking accountability for oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:53 AM
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My father is autistic. His disability made him unfit as a father. Abusive, unkind and self-centered to the max, I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:03 PM
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No, autistic girls and women MASK their symptoms and are forced to adapt to society to a much greater degree. They receive less understanding and are less likely to get diagnosed than men. Nearly all of the research has focused on boys/men and their needs, only recently do we have studies on autistic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:01 PM
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As a woman I've never understood that one. And neither was I ever the kind of girl who imagined her future wedding, The whole bridal thing is a scam imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:28 PM
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That's what YOU want to talk about, cherry pick some crap to shit on women for. Like an incel bitchfest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:41 PM
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There would be missing people, missing husbands, sons etc. Like has been happening to women since forever. You cannot deny reality, men commit over 90% of murders and violent crime. All you did here is show limited capabilities for reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:09 PM
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This kind of mentality ensures you never reach personal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:51 PM
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Where are all those unfound and unreported murder victims if women are just as bad as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:12 PM
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Wrong! Women are more resource focused than dna focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 10:33 AM
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Oh yeah, let's blame women for the amount of men that turn out to be shitty humans. Can you even hear the nonsense as it flows out of you? Do you really believe that women are just choosing wrong and not that LOADS OF MEN ARE PIECES OF SHITS Which is why most women are selective. Which is another reason you guys whine on here. The endless covert narcissistic victim play, it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:22 PM
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Your assertions are just that - assertions. Back your claims up with some sort of evidence or data. Because what you're presenting is hogwash. Boys are not judged harsher, they've been systemically bumped up like they did in Japan where qualified women were bumped out of medical programs to make space for mediocre guys. Boys are not punished worse than girls, boys actually DO shit that is way worse than girls and while some are punished appropriately there is a lot of crime that boys get away wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:36 AM
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Nobody is generalizing to all men. We are talking about abusive men here - there is PLENTY OF THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:22 PM
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77000 guys were recently busted in a Telegram group where they were sharing pictures and videos of themselves raping their unconscious family members. Dudes who coordinate and share material about their depraved evil actions. Don't act like men don't organize around being horrible. There is evidence literally all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:40 AM
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It's like you don't want to understand that these men select women to prey on, women do not select these men. These dudes typically love-bomb and manipulate on a level that you clearly have never witnessed. Stop blaming the victims of sociopaths. Blame the fucking sociopaths and their friends who cover for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:08 PM
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No, men who hide who they are and are calculated abusers. Stop blaming the victims for something a lot of men do to women. Men are responsible for their own actions. And for covering for their evil friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:49 AM
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I'm often glad by how utterly delusional guys are about the sheer dangers of dating as a woman. Clearly you have no clue just how many men are dangerous and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:15 AM
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What study? I see this thrown around a lot and I'd love to see the citation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:20 PM
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Two things prove this: a) the relatively low numbers of sex workers out of the total population, which proves it is not seen as a viable money-making scheme. And b) poor dudes also get laid, meaning women can't be all that financially motivated to be throwing sex around to the poor masses like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:12 PM
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The more liberal and equality minded the woman is, the less likely she is to expect for a man to pay for the meal. I come from a very liberal background and my friends prefer to pay for themselves, not least because of just how many dudes think that they've made an investment claim for sex for the price of a $25 meal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:30 PM
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I'm not talking about grown women over 25, I'm talking about guys over 30 who go for girls around 20. We all know very well that immoral men go for young women because they are easier to manipulate. That does not mean all men do it, but it sure as fuck means that a very harmful type relishes in that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:43 AM
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The violence and murder stats speak for themselves. Men are not being killed en-masse by women, that is however the most common way for women to go, accidents or murdered by the man in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:59 AM
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roflmao, that's the honey men use to sweeten the pot. Men tend to forget the kind of harm they cause women, often very much deliberately and cruelly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:37 AM
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Wow, you clearly have never ran a household or raised people. Utterly clueless. I presume I'm speaking to a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:16 AM
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roflmao, no it has nothing to do with intrasexual competition THIS IS ABOUT OLDER WOMEN KNOWING HOW MANIPULATIVE GUYS WHO PRAY ON YOUNG WOMEN ARE AND WANTING TO PROTECT WOMEN FROM HARM. A LOT OF MEN ARE HARMFUL TO WOMEN - THIS IS A SECURITY ISSUE.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:47 AM
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This is a strawman take you're using there instead of accepting the broad point. I highly recommend the book The Prehistory of Sex and The Biology of Sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:59 PM
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Also add to this that not becoming pregnant used to be (and still is) a matter of life and death for the woman. One of the reasons for high mortality rate in women was for example that they were having babies too young, while their pelvis was not fully developed. Men seek sex w. mass 'sowing' in mind, women gatekeep sex with survival in mind. If babies have been made the urge goes away because having sex might also rob your existing children of their mother, leaving them as unwanted stepkids in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:01 PM
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Bingo. A whole lot of men do not have problems with women but rather see greater problems caused by men who hate on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:15 PM
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Underrated comment. The gender war is co-sponsored by those who have traditionally tried to split the masses, or their enemy nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:13 PM
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Because this is not reality, this is how a man sees things. Men really do not notice the work women put in, until of course women won't do the work, then they blame women for being bitches for staying away. Right now men are simply too much work for what they bring to women's lives. Any dude who thinks the burdens should not be equal is not fit for cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:02 AM
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Are men aware of how differently they treat women based on looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:20 AM
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Heck, it's perfectly like A LOT of dudes are lying for sex and all kinds of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:08 AM
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fall for "that type of man" - what kind of man? The kind who lies for sex. Well, that seems to be majority of men. The fact how many people want it to maintain punishment-free when people swindle sex out of others is testament enough. A lot of dudes seem to think it is their natural right to lie to get their way and it is not as rare as you seem to think. These dudes are everywhere and women are not human lie detectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:07 AM
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Utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:44 PM
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Is this the Upside down world? Right now men are killing women at a rate nearly 95% og 5% and you dare have the audacity to blame women. FOH
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:53 AM
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Men lust after everything, the sub dontputyourdickinthat confirmed it. One of those things that is not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:59 AM
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The problem here is that while we all want to feel desired we're not all well shaped to be desired. I seriously think the "fat-guy and hot-wife" sitcom trophe has ruined a lot of guys' idea about what kind of woman they can attract and will settle for them. It creates unrealistic expectations. Because at the end of the day most people have options to enter into relationships with somebody if they'd only lower their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:46 AM
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I think this is not a correct assessment that most men don't have any interested women. The fact is that a lot of women get rejected for their looks too, but when both people feel like they should be punching and pulling somebody out of their league, they'll end up single. A lot of people who are single could enter into a relationship if they lowered their standards re. looks or occupation. So what's stopping them is not lack of a mate but a lack of acceptable mates and the unwillingness to lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:41 AM
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In the words of Rolling Stone: "You can't always get what you want." But we all can maximize our success by putting in the right work. What's unhealthy is to look at other people and resent them for the success they've reached through their own hard work, while not being prepared to do that work themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:37 AM
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Who cheated on whom has nothing to do with division of assets except in rare cases. Which is a pity since men are more prone to cheat than women. How do we know? Men tell us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 10:55 AM
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No lies were told here. Just uncomfortable truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 10:53 AM
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Because he's pretending to be someone he is not in case they'd want to date him. He'd rather lie to them in chance of sex. Because the truth is hard: that if women knew just how often men lie, they wouldn't want to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:55 PM
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No you do not have the same problems as women - THIS IS ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH TO WOMEN. Men are the single biggest threat to young women's lives. So while you are not getting raped and killed while going about your life, YOUR PLIGHT DOES NOT EVEN REGISTER IN THE SAME CATEGORY. You are completely clueless about the dangers that face women from the hands of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:53 PM
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Narcissists are unable to take responsibility for their own actions. They are always pointing fingers and blaming someone else for their own misfortunes. This sub is overran by emotionally stunted men who are constantly pointing fingers so they don't have to do shit about their own situation. A lot of men are selfish lovers. Many men don't return any of the same energy they are given in bed and they don't give a shit about what the woman gets out of it as long as they get theirs. The generalizat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:03 PM
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No, YOU need to learn to read statistics and face facts because you clearly don't. Men commit 95% of violent crime. Men start wars. Men kill women 20x more often than women kill men. And then you have the audacity to hate on women and blame us for your problems and call us the problem when nearly all societal problems begin with male greed and aggression. The fact the lot of you are here agreeing that women aren't worthwhile people tells us everything we need to know about your limited brain dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:57 PM
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If they can dump that work onto a woman they will and not even be earnest about it. And in some societies cheating seems to be a rule rather than an exception. Your claim that "women are a pain in the ass" just shows us that you don't have the mental ability to connect with women as people. Women aren't committing crimes and violence to even close to the level men do. Women aren't starting wars, yet you claim women are the problem. Are you ok in the head?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:24 PM
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Ask women if they believe that women are paid less than men for the same work and for the same work schedule, see how many answer yes. So equal work for equal pay is so radical? Ir knowing about wage disparity and hidden comps and bonuses, paid overtime etc. GMAFB
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:45 AM
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onanist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:47 PM
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Where are you getting this information about what goes on inside a woman's head during sex? Sounds more like you're speaking from personal experience and anecdotes are not evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:30 AM
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The funny thing is, that we produce the best work once we've become old enough to be out of the sex market and out of the caretaker role. That's where you'll see women producing an insane amount of intelligent work because they finally have time to focus. So I guess not being fuckworthy has its perks. Not that I would know of course, I'm goes without saying that I'm hot and productive ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:56 PM
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incel dribble
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:15 AM
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Great setup! I think I might start dating someone next door just for convenience lol (an old flame moved into the building next door and I've been thinking about inviting him over but didn't want to 'shit where I eat', but I think you may have convinced me)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:22 AM
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It's crazy that men expect it to be women's problem that they are unfit for relationships. We get blamed when we get together with a shitty man because we should have chosen better, but when we choose better and leave men unfit for relationships alone, then we get blamed for them being lonely and radicalized too. When will men accept responsibility for not developing themselves. For not being pleasant to be around? For being shitty partners who expect women to be their personal servants? When do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:30 AM
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Take my upvote. I like people who socialize and are open to getting to know other people without placing them in boxes or 'zones'. Hello stranger, I hope you have a good day - with no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:25 PM
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sounded like you were talking to the ugly ultimatum guy's wife
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:24 PM
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I never hear this from women. And I'm well beautiful enough to date rich men, which I do, I just don't care for a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:44 AM
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Oh the delusion. Trying to neg women to make your chances better ain't going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:42 AM
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You contradict yourself. At the end of the day women don't leave OK marriages even when the man gets sick, they leave shitty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:39 PM
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You should take a look at the research before speaking against the evidence. Who is it that leaves whom when the spouse gets sick and needs care? Men leave women at a rate 7 to 1. Who leaves when the spouse is so sick they cannot have sex anymore. 90% of men leave. Pure love? GMAFB
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:09 PM
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Alrght Ödipus, you want to fuck someone who looks like your mom because you love your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:39 AM
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So his 'effort' is being tall? I don't get what point you're trying to make. It seems that you are basing generalizations based on your own selective attention and tinted lenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:11 AM
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I find this whole notion ridiculous. And very few men are sought after to begin with. I get the offer of dick thrown at me WAY more than I even care to remember and do not look at men with the eyes of lust like men constantly look at women through the lens of fuckability. I'm so tired of men's default horny setting being assumed the default setting for normal social interactions. Manage your obsessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:27 AM
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You are simply wrong. I am able to understand trends in behavior. You are the one denying reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:44 AM
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Complete horseshit. I have nothing against gay guys fucking each other, I just don't want to fuck them or get fucked by them. I think they should be happy together. I also don't have a problem with other people being bi and girlfriends being with men who sleep with other men, that's their choice. It is simply my choice not to be with a guy like that because I have already been with a man who cheated on me with other men while hiding it. So I would not do that again. You may call it homophobia or…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:07 PM
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No, I live in the real world where these things happen on the daily. I know gay guys who hook up with married men through Grindr and Tinder, I also see it here on Reddit. It seems that YOU don't know what goes on in other people's lives while I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:04 PM
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I guess you didn't see the news of how Grindr crashed when the Republican convention came to town. It wasn't because of gay men but because of married republican men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:03 PM
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It is simply backed up by data. Long before AIDS pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:02 PM
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I think he would cheat on me and possibly bring home disease. I've also seen a lot of misogyny come from this kind of man, they want to be with other men for sex and emotional relationships but are with women for the convenience of unapid domestic labor and emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:45 AM
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No you are not, thinking from the perspective of the people who claim women must be lying about being single and happy. These people are victims of at least two types of fallacy here, the first one by thinking that everyone shares their own sentiments, which is the premise for their just-world fallacy which makes them think that being single is unjust so it is just for single women to also be unhappy. Turns out the scale of grouped happiness is: single women > married men > single men > married …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:36 PM
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Ahh yes, women's rights are heavily under threat... but let's make this about the men again. Do you realize how women's rights are under threat? I realize that a lot of men's complaints aren't reflected in the data like men claiming they don't get custody - the data debunks this claim. So what other grievances do men have about the law discriminating against them? The justice system is built by men so all complaints about discrimination and cruelty need to be taken up with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:49 AM
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Why are these questions always so one directional? How are men doing on their empathy for women - why does having a daughter often mean that men suddenly realize that women deserve human rights just like men? And why is it that having girls doesn't even light that bulb? Women are generally way more empathetic than men, this is shown in research and this is shown in real life. So I reject the premise of this question as yet another attempt to make women feel like they should be empathizing with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:31 AM
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Yeah but my gender makes me the natural leader of this household. ed. sorry, forgot the /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:16 AM
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That is not what the research shows. Women are in general more flexible and adaptable to change than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:54 AM
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I've had to limit my participation here because I can't handle the negativity and constant finger-pointing blame game. And the monolithic talks as if a whole gender can be judged and generalized about based on a stereotype or some anecdotes. I have hope when we can talk our way towards understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:30 PM
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It's one of the most deranged questions I've seen here. As if people don't have a right to a past. Making someone's past an issue is a sign of massive control issues and twisted values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:19 AM
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Who the fuck is building up some illusion of people's past like that? That's hella creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:17 AM
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I can't with the endless sense of entitlement and blame on this sub towards women. Be better humans then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:32 AM
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I hope this is a joke. LOADS of short guys date successfully and are married. This sounds like an excuse guys tell themselves, focusing on something they can't change, in order to not do shit about all the things that they can change. It's the defeatist, negative guy's out. And that kind of mentality is about the most unattractive trait a man can have. Nobody wants to date someone who avoids the issue and doesn't do anything to improve himself or his chances, but instead gives up on a fake excus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:53 PM
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Not when they're not breaking up with the woman but she is breaking up with him. When women initiate most of the breakups and divorces then you cannot just blame women for being bad pickers when the fact is that a lot of men hide their bad behavior until after they move in together. Sure both genders do that to an extent, but clearly not to the point of men seeing it as a dealbreaker whereas women get so fed up that they end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:03 PM
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talk about missing the point of personal responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:00 PM
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No it is not, this is victim blaming. You cannot keep on blaming women for falling in love with guys who turn out to be leeches who refuse to pull their weight. They take responsibility by a) taking on the workload and then b) leaving - but at the end of the day the mooch needs to take responsibility for themselves. We cannot accept that most men are assholes and that it's just women's job to either be single or accept that men are shit. That would be conceding to the main grievance of this sub …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:12 PM
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I can't tell if you're being ironic or not. Because here I am talking about personal responsibility where everybody pulls their own weight - and then we have people blaming women for not seeing that these guys were actually lying misogynistic mooches when they deliberately hid who they were until they started living together. At some point we have to blame the mooches for being mooches instead of blaming women for falling in love with dudes who hid that they were misogynistic mooches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:10 PM
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Funny how freedom of speech only applies when it's the kind of speech you approve of. Turns out, people who think and talk like that are not liberal and don't actually tolerate freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:20 PM
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At what point does personal responsibility kick in? My social media feeds are full of people bettering themselves in all kinds of ways, I find it hard to believe that these guys see none of those ads and don't think "maybe I should start working out". It's like the bitter types have this crazy magical thinking that if they do nothing some magical pussy - attached to a woman who is also willing to be a domestic slave while she works full time and contributes equally to the bills - is going to app…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:01 AM
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great points
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:05 AM
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You are right. 'Certain forces' are supporting both ends of the spectrum i.e. the most radicalized content creators. For example Russia has trolls spewing nonsense both as feminists and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:40 PM
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Speak for your own country. A lot of us still live in civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:38 PM
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Relationships are the start of family-founding. When you move in with someone or marry someone they are your new family. The best relationships are founded in friendship, not transactional tit for tat. The worst relationships are the ones where one person thinks they're better than the other, and treat them accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:22 AM
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Compared to not raping, which should be the basic line here. Non-violence is the baseline, violence is the abnorm in a civil society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:20 AM
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Safety is the foundation of the social contract. We are all owed safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:19 AM
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This is very interesting and thank you for giving a science based answer instead of all the "I think"s here in the replies. The "I think" answers are utterly worthless against science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:21 AM
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It ends up being a husband problem that is solved with divorce in order to lessen the workload and force the man to take the kids at least part of the time. Usually it's the burning sense of inequality that ends up being a dealbreaker. Or a physical and mental breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:03 PM
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Capitalist societies doubled their workforce when women joined. That is of course an overstatement because women have always worked, especially young women and widows, while married women took care of the kids and homes. Nowadays married women feel overwhelmed and burned out because while they may have equality in the ability to earn money, the workload of the home still awaits at home along with the extra work of having a husband. This is what the research shows and most divorced women agree th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:05 PM
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Oh it couldn't be that 'older' women are looking out for young women based on their own experience, knowing that it's typically the utter reject predatory guys who go for much younger women. We must all be so desperate for those reject guys that we want them all to our selves. smdh Do guys really believe this fiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:31 PM
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Sounds like Red pill. Flair does not check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:39 AM
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The biological need to procreate doesn't go away. Nor the initial hope for companionship. It isn't until after women have had failed relationships and been burned out by work at work and at home that they prefer being single and free from the extra workload that a man adds to their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:17 PM
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Not an anecdote, reddit is literally full of stories from guys who 'never saw it coming' but then upon closer inspection ignored months or years of their woman complaining and trying to get them to therapy or to address the issues in their relationships. This is not something you deny away and try to gaslight yourself into thinking isn't really a problem. It is more likely to make me look at you sideways for either a) ignoring the signals or b) not being approachable enough for her to trust you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:46 PM
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That seems to be the main purpose of this sub. It's full of posts complaining about women from some weird basement-dwelling perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:07 AM
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I absolutely agree, but I also think that the love and loyalty of a man is the stupidest survival plan EVER.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:46 PM
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Of course it is responsible if the kid would be born into horrible circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:43 PM
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We're talking about why so many guys refuse to pay for their children or see them just as financial burdens. Let's get back on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:42 PM
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This is only an option for someone who hasn't carried a child to term and doesn't have a clue to the emotional damage that does to both mother and child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:42 PM
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No, you just conflated the two. It is sickening to see just how many dudes see their kids as financial burdens that they shouldn't have to carry - that is the topic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:41 PM
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Since women don't have that choice in many places men shouldn't have that choice either. And they should have thought about the repercussions of biology when they did the deed. It's like in modernity everyone has forgotten the biological reason for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:40 PM
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Not true. My dad had my half-sister first and complained endlessly that she tried to baby-trap him and he shouldn't have to pay for her. Needless to say he was a complete deadbeat dad to her, and an immensely cruel dad to me. I know SO MANY examples of guys who complained ENDLESSLY about how "she's taking my money" even though they were just paying the bare minimum, not even what it costs to raise a child. We all know these guys and they are really common. So I take offense here when guys argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:39 PM
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Deliberately ill-faith and pedantic. It is simply a natural selection process. Those who don't get picked simply don't get picked. There needs to be a reckoning amongst those who don't get picked that this is the way it has always been and that there is no 'women distribution center' that condemns women to have offspring with sub-par partners. Using your logic I could claim that you wanted such a state service, but it is a very unproductive way to speak and a prime example of someone you wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:16 PM
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It's a natural selection. Those who don't get picked, don't get picked. There is no guidebook other than individual choices and acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:12 PM
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I do not have any reservations about prioritizing the wellbeing of children over the wellbeing of dysfunctional fathers. Dead beat dads for example should not be having kids, no more than dead beat mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:27 PM
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A good portion of men have never and should never procreate. I wish more guys on this sub would keep this in mind. It is not beneficial for the species, it is not beneficial to women and it is not beneficial to the kids to have a father who is in active competition for the mothers care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:00 AM
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Yupp, there are way more conservative men and liberal women. And men are more prone to authoritarian-colonizing opinions whereas women are more democratic and egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:12 AM
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It is not an ideological framework. It is simply democratic theory and liberalism i.e. "all people are created equal" and should have equal opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:11 AM
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Equating a lie with an assault. Always the victim I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:36 PM
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"Helping women" ? Do you mean not treating women like servants?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:36 AM
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Both ends of the scale act like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:29 PM
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what a weird strawman you built there from manipulation, almost like you knew him already
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:05 PM
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I care and I want people to stop dating people with less maturity in order to maintain control over them. Because it is just another form of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:53 AM
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Loads of guys want to fuck you up the ass. Aren't you privileged? Don't you feel lucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:41 PM
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How about you could have all the sex with men you want? Will you then start to get that we don't see it as a privilege any more than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:40 PM
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What if a manicure left you disappointed every single time? And you didn't like the manicurist? And you were in no need of a manicure? But were still being pestered and forced into a manicure? I bet you wouldn't be in the mood for a manicure nearly as often as you think you are. When will men here start to realize that women aren't nearly as sex driven as they are? And that the ability to be able to have sex "at will" is not a privilege but an annoyance. We. Donn't. Want. It.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:39 PM
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Nobody is entitled sex. And women are frequently left VERY unfulfilled by sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:21 AM
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It is not a privilege to be subjected to that harassment. Why is it so hard to understand that women aren't as sex driven as men are? Women are constantly looking for good men while excessively approached and harassed by shit men. And you think that is privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:56 AM
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What delusion! This whole post is yet another proof of men being utterly unable to empathize and put themselves in women's shoes. Women are constantly looking for good men, women go on dating apps to find men. Women go to bars and clubs to find men, seek marriage brokers etc. etc. etc. Men's problem is that women won't accept shit treatment from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:50 PM
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All that shows is that men are more prone to use violence on themselves just like they do with their wives and kids. All that stats show is that men are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:48 PM
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This is such a guy view at looking at things. Women do not feel lucky to be constantly objectified for sex. It is not 'luck' to be harassed and assaulted by horny, possessive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:47 PM
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huh? Both genders are building themselves, most people, or at least intelligent people are developing themselves throughout life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:21 AM
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Aww, that's cute. Trying to portray the facts as if they're somehow my bias lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:23 PM
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you have not debunked anything in the research and are just going off on feelings. Less emotions and more science is the answer here. It seems to really hurt men's ego when they don't feel like they're smarter than women. I know this from personal experience too, I only have to exist in meetings or my position for some guys to feel the need to try to test me and not the guys working under me or guys in similar positions. Who knew men felt the need to dominate? Literally everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:13 AM
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Interesting though the gender difference between who leaves whom when people get sick. Women are WAY more likely to stay with sick men than men are to stay with their wives when they get sick. The difference is sevenfold.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:10 AM
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You refuted nothing. All you did was show emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:29 AM
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Did you bother look this up before you started trying to justify what you want to believe while disregarding the research we have into these issues. Just knowing that a woman out-earns a man makes a man feel salty. I've seen research where it was crystal clear that men feel the need to feel superior to women and that's why they can't handle dating women who are either smarter or out-earn men. I'm so tired of the friggin misogyny in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:28 AM
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You are moving the goalpost here. OP made a claim that has been proven wrong by science. Men DO feel like they need to constantly FEEL like they are smarter than women even when they clearly are not. It is not my job to go into the male psyche to find out the reasons for men's need for that delusion, that is the job of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:26 AM
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Given the number of shit men who hide they are shit men and the number of overall shit men, it is impossible to date men and not have dated assholes. Date men = date assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:39 PM
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Everyone does that. We've all seen men with absolutely crazy women because they were beautiful or good in bed. I'm so tired of guys who blame women for the very same behavior that they themselves are guilty of. Women do not like bad boys any more than good men. Women like men and a lot of men are assholes, thus women date assholes. The guys who miss out on dating women keep harping on "women prefer assholes and not me" when they'd do better examining their own behavior that makes women reject th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:38 PM
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It is amazing that you had the evidence right in front of you yet managed to miss the point. The truth is that being murdered by the father of their unborn child IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR PREGNANT WOMEN. Above complications, above accidents, above any other cause. And for women in general the odds of getting killed by their husband IS a leading cause of death, WAAAAAY above the murder rate for women killing their husband. You can try to twist reality all you want, but that won't change i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:57 PM
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This is wrong. A leading cause of death for women is getting killed by their spouse. For pregnant women it is the leading cause of death, being killed by the father of their unborn child. That's not counting physical violence and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:56 AM
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Have you taken a look at the advice subs here on Reddit? Have you examined the research and surveys into who does what work at home? You are literally speaking against reality here. YOU may not have that kind of a relationship but that doesn't mean a majority of people do the same. Don't generalize based on yourself, look at the data and the stereotypes there. A leading cause of divorce is now that women are being burned out from both working outside of the home AND expected (by their husbands a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:52 AM
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Dating is dangerous for women and women get blamed for not 'choosing better' if they fall for a guy who lies about who he is until he flips a switch and turns abusive. Women NEED to be selective because not doing so has a much higher price for a woman than it does for a man. And fortunately for women, they usually have enough social connections so they're not lonely while single, as opposed to men who are more likely to rely on their woman for that. Nowadays there is very little upside for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:04 AM
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Of course, because if she takes the plunge on a man who turns out to be an asshole she'll be blamed for not choosing better instead of him being blamed for being a shit human being. Women bear the cost of bad selection which is why they need to be selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:59 AM
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roflmao, it is clear you know very little about women. Try to contain your prejudiced, ill-thought-out generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:42 AM
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No, I will say it as long as you generalize about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:37 AM
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blablabla women are not a monolith. And how bad does it have to be that a lot of guys still get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:01 PM
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Nope, most people are medium attractive and research has shown that grooming matters more. Both in dating and in the job market the good looking people get taken first, but for the rest it all boils down to grooming habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:55 PM
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My dude, we told you dingleberries for sport were going to affect your popularity, but did you listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:53 PM
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Lower your standards then. Most guys who complain about not having women are also guys who are unwilling to lower their standards to date the morbidly obese, snoozefest boring or unlucky in the genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:52 PM
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It has absolutely nothing to do with the current guy and it is exceptionally immature for anyone to take it personally that people lived a life before they met them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:25 PM
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Ahh yes, the guy who takes it personally if she did other things with other men or slept with someone faster than him. A sure sign of narcissim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:24 PM
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This is the truth. We see loads of women try to enter into relationships with men who behave alright in the beginning but soon the mask slips and they're disrespectful, entitled and jealous to the max. Of course nobody can work with that or live with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:06 PM
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Ahh yes, of course it's women's fault for choosing bad guys and not bad guy's fault for pretending to be nice until they show us that they aren't. Why is it so hard to understand that a lot of guys are liars who hide their true motives? I see a lot of men on here who don't believe in basic kindness within a relationship so we all know these dudes are a dime a dozen. IT IS NORMAL THAT THERE ISN'T SOMEBODY FOR EVERYONE. That is how it's been throughout the centuries. That's why we had wars with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:04 PM
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Dude, you're just making up stuff in your head to fit your own twisted narrative. Good partner means respectful, means equality and respect but somehow you decided to turn that into "boundaries" which tells me your "boundaries" are to not clean up after yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:05 PM
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This has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with being a respectful, good partner. Those who cannot be good partners or show their SO respect, they deserve to be alone. Because nobody should be forced to be with a disrespectful, selfish 'partner'. I have no sympathy for people who have been shit partners but now cry over loneliness. They had their shot at love and effed it up, typically more than once and more than twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:44 PM
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Often that loneliness is the price a person pays for being a bad partner. We all like when assholes get their come-uppance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:57 PM
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Everybody does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:05 PM
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Here is another typical male logical fallacy: You think that because YOU are miserable alone that women are miserable alone. WE ARE NOT. Surveys show that the single most happy group of people is single women, followed by married men, followed by married women, followed by single men who are miserable. I like my own company and hopefully someday I'll have a cat. But I have loads of friends too and we do have game nights with fabulous dinners ending in a drunken sleepover. It is a blast to be a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:53 PM
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Women are blamed for getting rufied on the first date. Women get blamed when they reject a guy and he turns violent or hostile. Women get blamed when a guy commits crime against them. It seems that men always think that what men do is somehow a woman's fault. This sub has endless confirmations on that. Why is it on women to 'choose better' and not on men to BE better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:51 PM
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your whole input was a rant without any logic. Women reject entitled men. Men who don't pull their weight in a relationship. That's why women would rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:49 PM
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So many 'arguments' on this sub are based on baseless assumptions and strawomen. It's a whine-fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:47 PM
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No, this is about hygiene way more than looks. Research shows that women care more about if a man 'grooms himself' than his physical beauty. Because most people are of average attractiveness it all boils down to whether men shave, shower, dress clean and smell nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:46 PM
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A lot of men seem to see compliments like currency and they're not giving them freely or genuinely but as tokens at a slot machine, thinking that if they insert enough compliments tokens sex is going to fall out. This is also why guys generally don't compliment each other, they immediately think that the other guy has sexual motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:38 PM
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I get complimented for my intelligence and accomplishments all the time. If you have something you excel at people will notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:36 PM
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This sub is still so on trend. Nothing but bitter guys whining over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:34 PM
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You do understand that it is not about the gift but about the token of appreciation and celebration of a person you care about? I hope you read the other responses from men here where they explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:47 PM
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a) a good part of abusers do indeed give other people the "ick" and set of warning bells b) a good part of abusers are sneaky abusers who use psychological manipulations that make the victim put their guard down and fall in love before they start the cycle of abuse. It is freakily uncommon for abuse to start during pregnancy or right after birth when the woman is in her most vulnerable state. By being inconsistent in their behavior abusers try to convince their victim that it is somehow normal t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:32 PM
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See, this is a very valid reason not to date someone career oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:15 PM
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So we agree on the point that men can't be happy for women's success. Your ad-hominems are pathetic at best. The moment you go there you've lost any debate and credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:54 PM
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ahh, getting verbally abusive the moment somebody disagrees with you. Must be a total mystery why you're single. You seemed to be unable to understand my point which is that men aren't happy for their women being successful because they consider themselves as the main character and think that it is women's job to support the man instead of having a mutually supportive partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:58 AM
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I rarely comment here because the mental loops are always at a level that I think "there is no fixing this". There used to be a lot of rejected men back in the day who would not marry. Those men went into the army, into sailing or other male dominated fields where they lived out their lives. Either you are hitting on women out of your league or you have traits that are a dealbreaker to most women. Do you typically get rejected before the first date or after?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:23 AM
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yes, because we all know the male dentist would be marrying the pizza girl to take care of him as the main character whereas the female dentist would not expect that from a minimum wage guy. Men tend to think it's the woman's role to be their support network but not the other way around. I recently read research that showed that most men feel bad about themselves if their woman has any kind of success in her life and that's effed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:13 AM
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Because women want stability and security to raise children and a job is an indicator of both
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:09 AM
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I said 'logic' because that was not logic. That was a poor man's straw man argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:50 AM
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People who view relationships as a power-play and not partnership rarely have good relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:59 AM
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Because women don't want to throw good time after bad. There is literally no reason to stay with someone who is not only emotionally cruel but also lazy, disrespectful and entitled. No sane person would live with that. He can be miserable on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:58 AM
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Aren't you too old to be using that kind of 'logic'?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:56 AM
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So because of what you think you've witnessed around you then all the studies must not be true. smdh, this sub maaan. And then you guys wonder why women can't stand you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:54 AM
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