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This place gets very angry when people (rightfully) question just how left wing it really is. I do think there are plenty of genuinely left wing ppl here who post good faith discussion. But it's very obviously a lot of right wingers invade this sub to grievance post. There is a lot of concerning hand-waving of the current state of American politics for one that boils down to "yea trump facism bad but feminists amirite!?" A lot of people chop of their nose here to spite their faces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/26 02:10 PM
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« Misandry doesn’t kill unlike misogyny. Besides you’re a gay man you shouldn’t feel targeted ». But that’s the thing, as a gay man misandry affects me too. This right here sums up the hypocrisy of feminism as a whole. How long have they campaigned about giving voice to the maginalized, the voiceless, the othered? Of taking the spotlight off of the heteronormative ideal of "cis white male patriarchy" and yadda yadda yadda? Exactly. But what do they do when one of those marginalized people says s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 04:19 PM
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Appreciate the level headed discussion! And well, yea, you'll see more blind hated for Bear cuz...Bear is the villain. Nikki may not have been presented as all that great, but she's still a victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 05:27 PM
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Fair. But ah, you're making the mistake of not looking at Nikki pre-possession. She's not particularly painted in some angelic light. The little we see of her, she comes off a passive aggressive and a bit of a game player. That's the nuance everybody is missing because they're too hyper-focused on Bear. I see this film as far more about how younger people can't communicate due to their hang-ups more than I see it as anything gendered. The concered friends? What do they do but voice tepid "is Nik…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 04:48 PM
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I'm being downvoted because people here as ass-mad this film has caused yet another round of gendered discourse where people generalize men and male behavior. And people feel some kind of way about it. So instead of using their own mental faculties to come to their own conclusions, they take all of the discourse baggage with them into the film. If you go into the film looking for it to be a "men bad" movie, you'll find it. It's no different than feminists who complain about everything and anythi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 04:16 PM
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I'm convinced you people are choosing to be as bad faith about this as possible. Comparing it to HP makes no sense. "This other fictional thing in a totally different genre has different rules for magical wishing objects!" Yeah....no shit? Also the accusation of cowardice for not confessing is big when women generally have no such obligation to confess their feelings. If it was mutual 'being an adult' thing, sure, but its 'be a man' thing, gendered. What even is this point? "But women!" Ok...?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 04:11 PM
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This is pretty basic character work stuff, man. Yes, he was always bad. It just took the events of the film to reveal how bad he was deep down. Having relatable elements, even for villains, isn't some new concept. You can relate to aspects of Bear while still acknowledging he's a bad person. We, culturally, have been relating to villains for decades, lol. That's kinda why people love a good villain. Bear is shown to be a coward totally incapable of taking responsibilty from the very beginning. H…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 03:22 PM
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The discourse around Obsession is so obnoxious. Bear is not a stand-in for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 02:38 PM
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What?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/26 12:59 PM
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What a shit take.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 12:20 AM
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Can't take anyone seriously who voted for Trump in 2024.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 09:47 PM
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The pettiness of these people is the real kicker for me. Instead of pontificating on the insanity of theist writings...people are so up their own ass, ALL THE TIME, about their grievance-based existence they take every opportunity they can to also make it everyone else's problem.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/26 04:09 PM
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It will never not blow my mind that these people don't see their blindingly bright hypocrisy. "Breaking free of gender norms for me, not for thee." For some many feminists, having "positive masculinity" is literally just traditional masculinity wearing a feminist ally t-shirt. On a macro scale I like to think we live in a world where we help each other. But sadly, that's just not reality. Is is cynical, jaded? Maybe. But most people aren't going to risk danger to themselves, either physically or…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/26 04:04 PM
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The problem is that the narrative has been so overwhelminingly defined as "women abused, men abusers" that trying to advocate for more balanced, fair discussion around this topic is pushing against a tide of cosmic proportions. Because the numbers and facts are actively hidden and not reported. Male victims of rape? Not reported. Not acknowledged. Women who lie about being raped and the stats that back it up? Ignore. Not reported. And it's not just a problem with libs and the left. Society as a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 03:55 PM
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Ummm, Bear is the villain lol wtf are we even doing? This has to be rage bait. He outright ignores the distressed and bizarre behavor of Nikki and still proceeds to rape her. Not to mention knowing some weird dark magic is at play later on and STILL saying "what's wrong with being with me?" to the real Nikki pleading to be killed. Ya'll ain't doing yourselves any favors here with this bullshit.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/26 07:44 PM
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The idea the media is "leftist controlled" is laughable on its face. Ditto universities. At worst they towed the mainstream corporate lib line. They all instantly rolled over to trump. The Ellison's and Disney control virtually all media, lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 06:58 PM
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Sorry, I just can't take anyone seriously if they genuinely think the left is "as bad/almost as bad" as the right. There are so ugly, disgusting things self-identified leftists spew online. But these people have no power. They are annoying people online. That's it. The threat of right wing fascism was ALWAYS the wolf at the door in America (speaking from an American perspective). And here we are, we let the wolf in. As angry and dejected as left wing/feminist misandry makes me, I have to be inte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 02:45 PM
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I have my own criticisms of this sub, but as your very first sentence - we don't conflate left wing politics with feminism. Feminism itself has done that. Feminism has injected itself into left wing politics so forcfully and completely that to many, feminism is just a synonym for left wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 02:39 PM
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Sadly, this open dismissal and bigotry against gay men is becoming more and more common among feminists. They have been for some time now openly throwing gay men under the bus as "upholders of patriarchy" and "sexists as well...cuz reasons." I've seen more than a fair share of takes that "because gay men aren't sexually attracted to women, they can get away with misogyny more easily." This is such an L for intersectionality - something that I can get behind in theory. But in practice these peopl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/26 04:51 PM
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You're just pulling a basic no true scotsman fallacy. Come on, man...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 03:39 PM
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Yes, exactly. You get it. "We're fascists because feminists are mean" isn't the gotcha you think it is. And these conversations would go farther if you people didn't knee-jerk into passive aggressive bullshit (kinda like a feminist) anytime somebody even slightly contradicts your worldview.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 03:39 PM
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Its wild how both redpiller types and feminists/femcels both adhere to this nonsense of "men and women can't be just friends."
/r/EverydayMisandry01/07/26 03:00 PM
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You're engaging in the exact some logic fallacy as feminists do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 02:55 PM
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Far too simplistic. The political situation in the US was, in part, the result or redpill manosphere influence and rhetoric. To deny so is to deny reality. I really have a hard time with how this sub downplays the effects of certain manosphere influencers and content and ideology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 02:53 PM
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Both. If feminism (which has co-opted leftism) wasn't Like That, there wouldn't be a "red pill manosphere" and the right wouldn't have been able to successfully grift on disaffected men like they have. Or more accurately, it would be more niche. I think it's overly simplistic to say that a version of the red pill manosphere wouldn't ever have existed with toxic feminism, but I do think it wouldn't be the force it was and still is if feminism wasn't so atagonistic, hateful, and in some cases, out…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 02:45 PM
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These people can never not be upset and triggered about something. It's a fuckin' meme using a screenshot from a new, very popular horror film. Let it just be that! Not everything is some secrertly nuanced look into misogyny for fucksake. Goddamn I'm tired, ya'll.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/26 02:07 PM
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So vote for fascism. Makes sense. Comments like these, and the number of upvotes they receive, are why I often can't take this place seriously. "I don't like the way feminists online hate men, so I'll just vote for the party that kills citizens in the streets, tanks the economy, and starts useless foreign wars." I'm a leftist guy who is also fed up with not just the democratic party, but much of my fellow leftists as well for how they have normalized misandry. But I'm also an adult who needs to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 02:27 PM
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Funny how the people who spam "get therapy" the most don't know how it actually works. Therapy, like every other fuckin' type of healthcare in the US (speaking from a US perspective of course) is time consuming, expensive, filled with red tape, and expensive. These people know this, but they don't care. It's easier to be pithy and patronizing online for clout and validation. If getting therapy was easy, more men would do it. If getting therapy was HELPFUL, more men would do it. I'm a man who has…
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/26 04:11 PM
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She's always been a badass. So of course she can't advocate for equality in her words, in her own way, without drawing the ire of the feminists who need you to fall in line with them lock-stop. Or else. Twain has always been clear and concise in her advocacy. She's been something of queer icon for decades, has always had a cogent "girl power" message that has never felt bitter or jaded or hateful. But she isn't "saying the line, Bart" good enough for the online feminists, so she must be cast out…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/26 02:06 PM
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This always makes me roll my eyes out of my head. It's just a beyond stupid platitude on the face of it. For one, it ignores well known history of war, lol. But in a more modern context...are female politicians not beholden to the same interests and pressures as male politicians? Did they not come up through the same system? Gender has no basis in politiking. Idealogy does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/26 02:02 PM
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It's not an absolute. Its literally common sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 07:10 PM
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I think waaay to many male advocates do the entire movement disservice by using Vincent as a prop to wrongfully say "she killed herself after knowing what it was like to live as a man" - which is just, not the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 04:56 PM
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Well that's the thing - there is no political neutrality when discuss gendered issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/26 02:32 PM
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I can't take you seriously whatsoever if you think TLJ is misandrist. You aren't serious people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/26 03:11 AM
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I can't lie...I find the hand-wringing about misandry in films/TV as cringe and often as misguided as cries of misogyny from feminists. Does that mean I dont think it exists? Of course not, but I'm almost always disappointed in how "our side" as it were, reacts to it. It's the same kind of behavior as feminists calling everything under the sun misogynist. It's literally just flipped. Something we are constantly criticizing feminists of doing. As a film buff and lover of the arts in general my st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 04:29 PM
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No, hardly. The discourse is misandrist. The film is not. A film about a shitty dude abusing a woman is not misandrist, lol. And to imply otherwise (not saying you specifically are) is kind of a mask off moment. Calling Obsession default misandrist because it's about a manipulative, abusive man is like calling any/all films about toxic/crazy women default misogynist. Now, within the individual contexts of some of these films misandrist and misogynist ideas can be present. But the premises' thems…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 04:18 PM
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Such a good point about "locker room talk." Have I heard men be crass about their sexual exploits before? Sure. But I've heard it far more from women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/26 02:50 AM
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A lot of modern gay (in this case 2 men) romance novels are written by women for women. And many of these women are straight. It's a cottage industry. Can you imagine the uproar if straight male authors had a career writing essentially mainstream softcore lesbian porn?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 02:22 PM
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"Male gaze" is just another way to blanket demonize straight male sexuality as inherently predatory/bad/degenerate. Women "gaze" just as much. But of course "it's different" for "reasons." Anybody who has been remotely online in any kind of fandom space will know women thirst post and objectify as much as anyone else. Any considered attractive male celebrity has a legion of thirsty woman posting about him constantly. The way straight women utterly objectify gay men is horrendous and literally no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 02:16 PM
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Two reasons. 1) A lot of them understand this, but pretend otherwise for malicious purposes. 2) Feminism has done a great job of positioning itself as a synonym for "progressive/left wing/liberal" etc, so a lot of feminists truly can't compute that one could be a non-feminist without being a misgoynist right wing type.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/26 09:12 PM
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But does fascism keep you from voting right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 01:51 PM
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Oh gimme a break. There are tons of films and shows about crazy women. This kind of whinging is literally just flipped from online feminists calling every film, game, show, etc misogynistic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 03:28 PM
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It's a horror movie about a toxic obsessive dude. Just like there are tons of movies about toxic obsessive (and sometimes murderous) women. Play Misty For Me, Gone Girl, Fatal Attraction, Basic Instinct, Misery, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, Single White Female, The Crush, The Craft, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, May, The Loved Ones, American Mary, High Tension, Inside...I could go on. One can, and should, enjoy art they may not wholly agree with ideologically. My biggest issue with this pla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 03:27 PM
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You lost me at "I can't honestly say the right is more toxic than the left." Bruh. B R U H Yes, the left is extremely toxic. But this is in a strictly undisciplined, disorganized way. Assuming I'm speaking to an American, I honestly can't trust anyone who stills plays the "the left is just as bad" game in 2026.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 03:21 PM
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That's that thing, I already am misthanthropic! Not just in regards to how utterly hypocritical society is about men's issues - but tons of other things as well. But I still advocate for a better future, even if I'm feeling exceedingly hopeless of seeing one while I'm alive. I'm just keeping my loved ones close and letting that be my fuel. And really, my misantropy is more of a coping mechanism. I can have very nice, pleasant interactions with people that boost my spirits, but then all of the ot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 03:07 PM
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Eh. I really dislike Pop Culture Detective. I find him reactionary and often 2-dimenionsional in his "analysis." It often just starts and stops at "This thing in this movie is bad irl." When it comes to art and entertainment, I often find myself on the outs with how people analyze them even if I align with them politically. I hate how the right interprets art, and I (mostly) hate how the left interprets art. Because they basically mirrror each other. It's largely all just palette swapped "this o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/26 03:19 PM
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Rowling herself refuses to acknowledge Harry was abused. That doesn't change the fact he was, but knowing Rowling's own words and beliefs over the years, it's safe to say she's a genuine nutcase and any actual depth found in HP is a fluke.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 05:44 PM
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Every harmful subculture men fall into is just insta-mocked. "Lol losers. Lol why are men Like That. Lol blah blah would do anything than go to therapy. Lol if men weren't all just seething incel misogynist losers they'd be happy." Y'know, the usual.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/26 12:22 AM
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I grew seeing the special needs boys in my schools consistently bullied and ostracized. Shunned, made fun of to their face, verbally attacked, etc. In my schools there were no female special needs kids so I can't provide any anecodotal accounts of how autistic girls are treated - but I'm sure they are often ignored/bullied too. It's not about who has it worse. It's about shedding equal light. But all I can say is throughout my life I've seen austisitic boys and men be treated with open hostility…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/26 03:38 PM
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Just broadly speaking "she/he done me wrong" songs are just what most popular music is about - be it a male or female act. Songs about shitty men and shitty women fucking you over is about as common as the typical love song. Pop music, country, even rock... Trying to genderize it as one side doing it more than the other is just another example of hypocrisy and narrative pushing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/26 02:01 PM
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You sound like you watch a little too much critical drinker and nerdrotic...
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 04:29 PM
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It's benevolent misogyny.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/26 08:46 PM
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Yea. Sure thing buddy.
/r/MensRights12/05/26 07:37 PM
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Few men have the balls to grift online for money? Bruh... The internet is nothing BUT men and women grifting for money.
/r/MensRights12/05/26 06:52 PM
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They hate autistic men. Hence why SO MUCH of the talk around "creepy" men and "incel" men is just thinly veiled attacks on autistic men. Anybody who is awkward, not great at social dynamics, shy, etc...is demonized.
/r/MensRights12/05/26 06:40 PM
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This is misandrist and misogynist at the same time, lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/05/26 06:33 PM
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Speaking from my own experience, it wasn't so much that I'm not "as traumatized" as a women would be, it's that I knew nobody would care. Or even believe me in the first place. And to be fair, women also fear not being believed. But women have a stronger support network for things like SA that men...simply do not have. But for me there was this deep seated understanding that I really couldn't go to anyone. So I just did what society trains men to do: buried it and pretend it didn't happen and th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 05:35 PM
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Kinda telling this is being downvoted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 06:30 PM
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Again, why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 06:30 PM
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Or, you shouldn't care about it unless you have a valid reason to?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 03:33 PM
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The redpills influence isn't nothing. The bigger names in the space like the Tates, Sneako, Fresh and Fit, etc had/still have a fairly big platform. I see a lot of posts here kinda trying to dismiss the influence of these spaces. Not accusing you of doing it here btw, just stating my impression. If we can speak on how misandry is prevelent and pervasive in online spaces, we can't hand-wave away the influence of the redpill types. Both "communities" exist and feed off each other. But two things c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 02:14 PM
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The "body count" (god I hate that term) thing is only pushed in redpilly spaces. Most guys truly don't care. If he likes you, you like him, and there is trust...it won't matter. Edit: There is also the double standard of how promiscuity is viewed between men and women. For decades a woman's sexual freedom has been pushed as empowering and as something to actively fight against restrictive gender norms that a woman's sexuality is somehow precious and sacred and she should be guarded and protectiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 01:59 PM
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I've pointed this out before, as have others. But its always downvoted and almost always deleted by mods. There ARE some genuinely leftist perspectives here from time to time...but a lot of this place is a just grievance posting that, in all honestly, would be right at home in a convservation sub. I can't help but feel this sub is a bit of a right wing op.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 04:21 PM
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The way I've seen, over and over, straight women utterly objectify gay men for their own pleasure and entertainment is wild. And they're so oblvious to it. They either treat gay men like accessories, one of the girls, or as objects to get off to. Sometimes all three.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/05/26 09:14 PM
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On paper, left wing. Pro-worker, pro socialized systems. Pro human rights for all identities, races, and ethnicities. As I identify right now? I don't like calling myself leftwing anymore, as the left can't get its head out of its to save its life. I agree with a lot of leftist-progressive ideas in principle, but in application...they've utterly shat the bed. So I just call myself a egalitarian.
/r/MensRights05/05/26 03:01 PM
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Centrists are just right wing...
/r/MensRights05/05/26 02:59 PM
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Intersectionality is yet another notch in the "feminism warps and destroys things to suit its agenda" belt. It's a concept I don't disagree with on face value. But it's been weaponized and used as a score-keeping tactic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 01:48 PM
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It really sucks to say, but the only option is to avoid these communities outright for the time being. It's better for your mental health in the long run, despite the desire for community. Hopefully you're lucky enough to have friends in real life you can connect with and talk to, but seeking out communal space on the internet just isn't worth it anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 03:11 PM
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Seriously. It's so absurd as to be immediately laughable. It really speaks to how zero critical thinking went into the discourse. Just INSTANT reactionary nonsense. Over a 3rd of the global male population training to be rapists is like...dystopian sci-fi novel shit. It's like....roving hordes of sexual predators in the streets kinda numbers. But they didn't blink before heading to tiktok and Twitter to perform.
/r/MensRights30/04/26 10:45 PM
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The reaction to this story is a PERFECT example of why actual leftism and feminism are incompatable, and why feminism successfully positioning itself as default leftism/progressivism will take a looooooong time to undo. To the wider discourse feminism and leftism are synonyms. The modern left, in a general sense, positions itself as an ideology/political movement that cuts through the propagandized BS of the status quo - that seeks the facts, the answers, that challenges narratives and pushes nu…
/r/MensRights30/04/26 02:54 PM
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You're right. My intent wasn't to entirely blame feminism, but that is exactly how this reads. Oligarchal politics and class warfare also share the blame.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 03:20 PM
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Yes, because he was supposed to see into the future... How is this logic any different than "he should just know" kinda shit?
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:48 PM
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I don't like framing it as "women did this, men are doing that." Maybe I'm being pedantic, but when we use gender terminology like this, we're kinda pushing the idea this kind of stuff is inherent to gender, and not behaviors adopted due to societal conditioning and propaganda. It may not be as easy to type, but I think we should make pains to say stuff like "feminism has conditioned women to do X, men to do Y." For decades feminism has taught women to be afraid of men, that men have taken thing…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:07 PM
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This kinda shit should not be allowed in this sub.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 01:56 PM
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Ya'll are falling for an obvious shitpost.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 09:55 PM
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It's become blatantly apparent that a lot of people online are more into having their fear-based misandry and overly online breadtubey ideology catered to than anything else. It's really quite soul melting to see and feel that all of these people who play at being advocates online for equality and for victims of SA don't ACTUALLY seem to care all that much about victims. Victims are their smokescreen. What they really care about is having their extreme grievance based mentality and ideology rein…
/r/EverydayMisandry22/04/26 07:02 PM
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Gotta love how these self-identified progressives resort to unambiguous homophobia just to the insult men as a group.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/04/26 04:32 PM
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Exactly. Ask 20 different feminists to define patriarchy you'll get 20 different answers. Most feminists will play the "patriarchy hurts men too" game. But then why gender the term at all? And a lot of feminists will concede women often engage in and benefit from patriarchy. So, again...why GENDER the term? If it hurts men, and woman can often benefit from it...how the FUCK is it a patriarchy!? But then again, these types will always let women off the hook and give them more grace, because women…
/r/EverydayMisandry22/04/26 04:29 PM
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No? She's an actor, not a director.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/04/26 03:58 PM
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Oh, for sure. I used to balk at the idea that the left can use the same type of reasoning and rhetorical arguments as the right - but that was my naivete talking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 05:25 PM
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These people are nothing but cultish idealogues. Simply saying "Oops, we jumped the gun here, our bad" and moving on...they would rather dig their heels in further and scream about how they are right anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 02:04 PM
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Math is hard for some women feminists. There is a difference. Not all feminists are women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 01:59 PM
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It makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills because so much of the left pretends at being the fact-based, nuanced ones that cut through the propaganda. But when it's propaganda they like and agree with - the goalposts shift like crazy. Either context and nuance matter or it doesn't. Fucking pick one. All these types are doing is further undermining the left and its broader goals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 01:56 PM
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The way I saw some people I genuinely like and respect online totally fall for this and freak out is...disappointing. And yea, so much of the reaction to this stuff, whether the information turns out to be accurate or not, is more like a righteous glee your hateful misandrist worldview is being validated and not, you know, abject horror at something terrible happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 07:51 PM
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There is nothing wrong with "wokeness." It's how its utilized that's the issue.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:32 PM
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To 98% of leftists/progressives online, feminism IS leftism. They are synonyms. And that's the whole problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:50 AM
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A few ridiculous chuds like Tate, F&F, and Sneako got together on streams and did collabs or whatever a few times and suddenly it's a "manosphere" - when in reality it's just a few assholes grifting. But because they spew sexism, and they peddle self-help, apparently a vast network of misogynist influence exists as the "manosphere." Funny, because these guys fight and bicker like grade schoolers. I'm not denying they've had a bad influence on people. But the way the manosphere is often framed ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 02:15 PM
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More and more this sub feels like a wolf in sheeps clothing. A community that cosplays with shallow leftist rhetoric, but is really just populated by aggrieved right wingers. Every so often some genuinely compelling stiff is posted. But most of it is reactionary knee-jerking bs. And you get absolutely dogpiled anytime you try and draw attention to it. I visit an alleged left wing sub about men's issues because...I'm a leftist who cares about men's issues. But the vibes here are often suss.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 08:23 PM
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This is why I feel a lot of people on this sub grievance post too much (and are largely just right wingers pretendingto be left) - behavior just like the reactionary feminists you rail against. Nobody is making fun of the kink itself. What people are having a field day with is the HYPOCRISY. Because with the right, it's always the hypocrisy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 06:59 PM
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Both movies are already unsung for how they write character dynamics. They aren't complex movies, but they don't need to be. And I find the backlash against them entirely performative and histrionic. There is room in children's/family entertainment for the deep Ghibli/ prime Pixar stuff as there is for more casual fluff. Fluff is (often) good! Fluff is comfort! There is not any less inherent value in entertainment that is more easily digestible! They're both good films in the way an old school S…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 01:58 PM
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LOL wtf is this shit? "The right's view on gender is more varied that the left." Come on ya'll, if this is an actual left wing sub, this kind of nonsense shouldn't go unchallenged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 09:46 PM
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Kinda suss you frame this entire thing as happening around "leftist circles" - trying to correlate the behavior of falsely accusing with a political identity. People who make false allegations don't follow political lines. If someone lacks the morality and character to stoop so low as to falsely accuse a man of sexual assault, they're just a terrible person. It has nothing to do with how they identify politically.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 02:00 PM
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Hooks was the first feminist lit I read, because she was touted everywhere as what real, honest, empathetic feminism looks like for everybody. "Read Bell Hooks" being a common refrain that still gets tossed out casually online. A pit in my stomach grew and grew the more I read her work - thinking with not an insignificant amount of dejection: "If this is what empathetic feminism looks like, we're really screwed."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 03:29 PM
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Ya'll are hopeless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/26 02:24 AM
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Projetion at its finest. Ironically, the feminist tactics are what ya'll are doing to a T here - missing the forest for the trees to harp on petty grievances instead of focusing on the immediate, far more pressing issues. What is this thread but a literal gender swapped version of a 2014 era feminist rant about body shaming? Sure, AOC is one of the few elected officials actually fighing back right now...but she called the nazi shadow president short, so she's an unviable candidate for any future…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 05:17 PM
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Ya'll still on the AOC "short" thing? Imagine dedicating this much energy to fighting the fascist takeover of America. We'd actually get shit done. Edit: Ya'll got more smoke for AOC calling a nazi short than you do the actual nazi ripping fathers away from their children, brothers away from their siblings, sons away from their parents...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 02:17 PM
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Nah fam. I ain't about to let America slide even further down the fascist shithole to "make a point." That's some tankie "protest vote for Jill Stein" shit imo. Let's get some sanity back first and worry about everything else later.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/26 03:17 PM
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Expecting even a nominally liberal political figure to speak on men's issues in a way you'll find satisfying is foolhardy. It just ain't happening anytime soon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/26 01:07 PM
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I never liked nor trusted Elam.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:13 PM
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Hooks is trash, but tbh I can't really help but raise an eyebrow at endorsing Chloe Roma in the same breath as denouncing Hook. Roma is...not to be trusted. She attracts drama like a glue trap and has very odd blindspots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 10:16 PM
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It wasn't dumb. If anything it was mild.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 10:20 PM
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Her comment was explicitly about ICE and maga rhetoric about immigrants. It wasn't just some vague woowoo comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 07:07 PM
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Sure. Celebs are often empty and performative. But Eilish does practice what she preaches. So in this instance you're speaking from pure ignorant bias. She makes her tours as green as possible, she's raised millions for food equity, donated to Planned Parenthood, among other things. You don't have to like Eilish, but you kinda gotta be educated in your criticism. Edit: LOL, typical. Ya'll get called out and just downvote and run.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 05:10 PM
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You're kind of ignoring the context entirely here..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 04:53 PM
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Would you care about her stolen land comment if she didn't have her man-hating comments? I'm not a particularly big fan of Eillish. But I think we're well beyond this "oh, you criticize society yet you live in it" thing. I also think we're well beyond the "shut up and dance" mentality we have for celebrities. At this point, a celebrity NOT speaking up is far more telling to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 03:51 PM
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I don't particularly care about the content itself. I'm one of those people that will fight for art to exist despite my not agreeing with it. Does the way Carpenter's music video's gleefully showcase purposeful violence against men as humorous and nonchalant bother me? Yes, but it's art made by artists, and I would be a hypocrite if I stomped my feet and tried to "cancel" it. But I do feel the conversation needs to be had. And yesterday. Her videos don't just happen to feature violence against m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 03:29 PM
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LOL, your projection here is laugable. Peace, man. I'm out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 06:23 PM
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How are those key words? Sounds like you're dodging. I'm not looking for a slapfight, man. I just think this kind of thinking is stuff a lot of people on this sub fall into and it does nobody any favors. You've instantly read shallow and malacious intent into their motives. You're not providing any details, just what seems to be your biased read on things. You've had 4 women say you're quiet on dates. Why does that equate to them wanting a "fun narcissist," and not somone who, y'know, is a bit l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 06:02 PM
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Kind of a big jump to go from "people think I'm quiet on dates" to "Oh, they just want a loudmouth narcissist," don't you think?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 05:48 PM
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When you realize virtually all of the "self care" stuff that has taken over the internet is exlcusively female coded/targeted to women, you can't unsee it. Being "boring," being comfy in a routine, having "basic" hobbies and interests is all seen as empowering and being healthy and regulated for women. For men though...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 04:31 PM
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NGL this is some brittle, fragile shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/26 02:10 PM
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Being a centrist is a bad thing. Because that just means you're right wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/26 06:39 PM
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Going to therapy is now basically seen and spoken of as a shorthand for emotional intelligence and having your shit together. It's basically a flex. "Yea my routine: wake up, do yoga, go the therapy, go grocery shopping, lolz!" It's become so normalized to casually talk about therapy It's now obviously a unspoken privilege. Therapy isn't something anyone can just jump into easy-peasy. It, like fuckin' everything else, requires money, insurance, compatibility with the therapist themselves, etc. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/26 01:42 PM
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LOL, get your priorities straight jesus christ. "Not on board with woke stuff" Go back to watching chud grifters on YT if a Star Trek show being "woke" (Star Trek was always woke) is your top concern. You're supposed to be an adult? Are we supposed to take you seriously with this shit?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 08:57 PM
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Wild hill to die on when America is currently under fascist rule.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 08:55 PM
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Yea... I wonder how many of these people can even name a handful of the victims who have come forward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 04:25 PM
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It's a good show. Well written, well acted, genuinely erotic (speaking as a straight - I just appreciate a film or show that knows how to craft real desire and yearning and lust in its characters), and emotionally resonant in ways I wasn't expecting. But the way I've seen women go absolutely feral over it is...really gross. Like, it genuinely creeps me out. To play a cheap whataboutism, if men were acting this way about a sports drama with explicit sex scenes about young attractive lesbians...th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 04:23 PM
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Who is "everyone?" Last time I checked only fascists are called fascists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 04:00 PM
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The double standards - It's very simple logic the fem-left will not under any circumstances acknowledge. It's too dangerous to their narrative. That's why they've worked so hard to even make the attempt at discussing men's issues or even gasp issues with feminism default misogynist and "problematic." Merely bringing up the topic is evidence enough of a person's misogyny, inceldom, toxic masculinity, far right politics...what have you. They've effectively made it nuclear to approach on its own in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 01:26 PM
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Appreciate the thoughtful response. I've seriously looked into moving abroad recently myself. Moreso for a semblance of better healthcare and social safety nets over anything social, but that would be a boon too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 01:06 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but Japan's social construct is also under strife. Not to come at you, but you're kinda buying into conversative propaganda when it comes to Japan. It's been reported for years that the social constructs of Japan are causing all kinds of issues for them between generations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/26 11:19 PM
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Came here to say this. Many women are just as guilty of this horrendous shit. We all know about how women's roles as sex traffickers are a BIG reason why victims are more easily manipulated into falling into that web. Women trust women. We have 3 high profile cases that explicitly show us that women are not just integral to their operation, but they are WILLINGLY so. Epstein, NXM, and Tate. It's almost like criminals who do this kind of crime are broken in some other way that has nothing to do w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/26 03:19 PM
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Weird you assume you gave an asshole what for out of some gendered expectation and not, y'know, that people need to put bullies in their place?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/26 04:33 PM
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Respectfully, that was not my path. I've always enjoyed what I've enjoyed and didn't care about what others deemed to be "our space" being co-opted. It's that kind of mindset that creates bitter, jaded right wing mentality in the first place. Imo fandom spaces, nerdom spaces and hobbies, should be inclusive to all who want to join in good faith. With that said, is there something to the arguement that "cultural critics" who don't actually care about this thing or that thing, suddenly deciding to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 02:44 PM
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Same here. And it wasn't that long ago. I got taunted and pushed around for reading books in class after my work. One kid smacked the book out of my hand and kicked it across the room. Friends and I got called homophobic slurs constantly for being Star Wars nerds when the prequels were coming out. Ditto Lord of the Rings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 02:58 AM
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I mean, he's a criminal by his own admission. So...no? And the fact you seem to think by "harm he caused" is one specific thing, kinda tells me where your head is at.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 07:06 PM
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It's pretty endless, the hypocrisy. All kinds of thinkpieces on "why men and boys don't read anymore" and then same people (at least the same kind of people, ideologically speaking) instantly turn it into a meme of men being fake and performative when seen reading in public.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 06:52 PM
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OH God the GG days. I just had a 'Nam flashback. It's wild, I went back to some of Saarkesian's videos from that period and...they're garbage. Pure, unfiltered, garbage with the most basic and generic cherrypicked "analysis" of all time. It was often easily debunked by tons of people, not all of them chuds or right wingers. But the discourse got so heated so fast, it didn't matter that her arguements were the dribbling shits, she was harrassed (which I can fully admit happened and was totally un…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:16 PM
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Tate has done real harm and I don't ever want to downplay that. But, sadly, I think it's beyond clear at this point that the left has, in all their infinite wisdom, artificially given him a boost in relevance he would not have had if they didn't make him the biggest enemy in the world a few years ago. He's already faded from relevancy, but the left still keeps tabs on him like gossip columnists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:08 PM
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This is one of the many hypocrisies. One of the go-to talking points from feminists is how women aren't allowed to be into anything or have any interests without it being insulted or policed by men or the wider culture et etc. They usually focus on nerd/geek culture. I don't deny that this DOES happen to women...but like...hello!?!? Have men and boys not been the butt of endless jokes about being lonely ugly fat pathetic awkwards losers for being into "nerd" shit for literal decades now? Being a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:06 PM
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LOL I had the EXACT same situation with someone in my life. Very casually misandrist, tows a lot of the typical lines...but was hooking up with a cop. I was like....What the literal fuck is wrong with you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:03 PM
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This is absolute Q-type hogwash, jesus christ...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 04:21 PM
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I'm a very casual listener of rap, but I have to ask - how much of this music you're describing is actually GLORIFYING said violence vs merely representing it in the art itself? I'm asking sincerely, because anyone can take lyrics out of any song or any genre to craft a narrative. And I overall don't and will never subscribe to "this kind of art/entertainment is a bad influence" because it's just old school conservative fear mongering repackaged with a pearl clutching lib coat painted on it. The…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 04:15 PM
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Culture war garbage that I'm always annoyed to see this sub fall for. Not only does it misrepresent some of the very work it's critiquing in the article - it ignores the wide range of sheer content that is out there. There is no shortage of competent men on TV and in film. The culture war is just convincing you there is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 07:02 PM
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Both Ana and Pearl are terrible people. Pearl is a genuinely stupid person. I mean that sincerely - like genuinely unintelligent. And her rise in popularity is indicative of just how bankrupt the whole side of the isle is. Ana has slowly been cozying up to maga for years, where you can basically call her maga now with a thin, thin paint of generic liberalism tossed in when it suits her. Who would even want to watch this in the first place?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/26 04:11 PM
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This kind of bitter redpill nonsense doesn't help people take men's rights more seriously, bud.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 04:22 PM
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Ya'll are fragile AF it's hilarious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 05:18 PM
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MMMM, no?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 10:23 PM
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I think clarification in these times is kinda essential...no?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 10:13 PM
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Being a leftist and being a democrat are not mutually exclusive. Also, "not going back" implies you went the other way. So you're ok with what the right now or....cuz let me tell you, yikes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 09:42 PM
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All that flowery pedantry to defend a nazi getting called short by a woman and no smoke for the nazi himself harming men by the thousands, if not millions, in America.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 09:38 PM
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Nah, not really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 08:45 PM
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The post is about stephen miller - a literal white supremacist all but confirmed to be our shadow president, not trump. Do better before you clutch your pearls. How many men has Miller ripped from their families? Sent to foreign gulags, and altogether disappeared off American streets? But not a peep from this sub allegedly about "men's rights." But a post about an old dig a female politician said about a nazi being short, well this MUST be litigated. If you cared about men, maybe focus on how th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 04:42 PM
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If you honestly frame use this as the totality of her assessment of miller than you're too stupid to have these conversations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 04:35 PM
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Imagine defending the literal nazi running the US government because a women politician called him short. Yea, this sub is totally serious about "men's rights" when something like THIS gets over 100 upvotes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 04:14 PM
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Yea, true. But you're forgetting important nuance here, no? ICE does not cooperate at any level. They are a rogue agency. Kind of a different situation when they murder someone out in the open and them purposefully keeping their abuses they commit behind closed doors, well, behind closed doors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/26 03:22 PM
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You say you don't want to make everything about gender, but you immediately run to do it anyway. She wasn't an immigrant. She was a citizen. Not that it would matter, because she was still murdered in cold blood by the trump gestapo. IDK, I find it really fucking gross and unsavory your first thought after The State murders a citizen is "Pfft, if it was a man nobody would care!!!" For one, this is just flat out wrong. Were there not mass protests after the cops murder George Floyd? Maybe get you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/26 03:16 PM
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Being vulnerable as a man in conservative spaces can only go so far. Sympathy and empathy start and stops at attacking feminism. Once you show yourself to be a unique individual who doesnt buy into male gender roles the right wants you to fill, they'll mock you too. The right, AT BEST, just wants to air their (often misogynist) grievances. Nothing more. And it doesn't take long for them to reveal their misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 09:53 PM
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"I'll allow fascism because a lady politician didn't say Men's Rights!" And some of ya'll wonder why the wider left dismisses male advocacy as a whole...maybe it's stupid shit like this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/26 01:36 PM
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Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/26 01:32 PM
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Don't speak on what you don't know. If you're gonna come in here an try and run some "moderate" defense of the ICE gestapo, you're not welcome here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 04:36 PM
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Can't speak on Britain, but in America we're stuck in a cycle of the right pretending to care about men and men's issues while just forcing us into the stereotypical retrograde gender roles as inseminator, provider, stoic, etc. And on the left they're too busy fighting the dragon of the right because they see any and all male advocacy as inherently right wing and fasc, because the right are the only ones who speak on it. Fake concern will win people over 100% of the time over being ignored or ac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 04:29 PM
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This is it. And always has been it. Feminism has been and always will be for the white bourgeoisie. Intersectional feminism will never gain ground over typical libbed out corpo-feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 06:57 PM
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Wow, a supposedly left wing sub openly shilling for a fascist. Ok...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/25 04:28 PM
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It's simply not going to happen anytime soon. Maga 2.0 has made sure of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 05:28 PM
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The interviewer who asked him the question framed it that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 04:20 PM
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No way in hell any left of center politician, no matter how good they are on other issues, DARES utter the word "misandry" or criticizes feminist rhetoric in any capacity. That is IMMEDIATE grounds for ruining their career. It just ain't gonna happen. I know we don't want to accept scraps, but I think someone blasted into the spotlight like Mamdani speaking SOME truth to the matter is bigger than people in this thread are suggesting. Does it encompass the whole issue? Of course not. But what he …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 04:18 PM
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Do you expect any politician to have an MRA-approved blurb about the nuances of men's rights?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 04:15 PM
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