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And politicians that pay lip service to male loneliness because they want to be popular and then only hire women because it’s better for pr. He’s basically saying “that sucks, go fix it yourself” Everyone knows any project he takes on is going to be female-first, he just wants to leverage our buy-in
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:09 AM
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Most doesn’t matter. What matters is the vocal group that actually has influence
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 02:29 AM
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In the business we call statements like this misleading. I’m so tired of people who think that women’s equality means that men have to do everything feminists want
/r/MensRights23/06/25 02:24 AM
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It’s because feminism is a movement in search of a cause. They attained everything they wanted decades ago, so all that’s left is to manufacture talking points to continue to rationalize their own existence. That and foreign influence operations. Someone in the Kremlin gets a raise every time a feminist says “we should kill all men.” If you want to grow a movement to be as divisive as possible, back the divisive leaders. Obligatory: of course this does not just apply to feminism. Many political …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 09:41 PM
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Rare W for the DEI officers
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/25 01:50 PM
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Use that block button. Most algos will respond noticeably in a day or two
/r/MensRights04/02/25 11:29 PM
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I’m sure there’s some on both sides, but generally I’ve noticed egalitarians are better at placing themselves in others’ shoes. Feminists largely believe in completely separate moral frameworks for their ingroup vs outgroup. Perhaps we do subconsciously, but for feminists it’s an overt goal to make systems less equal And just because feminists believe something does not make it true. I have to push back on the idea that men do not understand how women suffer and see them is purely oppressors ove…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 10:57 PM
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Not just a shrug. Many institutions use this stat as a reason to support named grading since it helps women Typical feminism rationale. You must be fair when being unfair helps men, but unfairness is good when it helps women.
/r/MensRights04/02/25 09:56 PM
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Not true, they think about the few individuals that radicalized them and project those traits onto all men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 09:45 PM
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I feel for many feminists personally, but their ideology is toxic to men and to themselves. Women certainly have their own challenges to work through, but feminism in its current form is not the answer. It has entirely warped into a movement whose only purpose is to protect the movement. Feminism is its current form is a hate group that preys on vulnerable women who have been abused by bad individuals. It promises women power, status, and vengeance over men, but forces them to lose any capacity …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 09:42 PM
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I think it’s just intentionally spiteful. Feminists aren’t serious people
/r/MensRights01/02/25 05:00 PM
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I think given how close to election season it might have been a social media version of a false flag attack. The right wanted to alienate men from the left so they came up with a topic they new feminists would swallow hook, line, and sinker But ultimately, that’s truly how they think. The right just came up with an efficient way to expose them. Or maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight, what do I know
/r/MensRights01/02/25 04:58 PM
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Exactly. The left as it is now will never do anything but make bigotry worse. They probably won’t see this is a wake up call, but they weren’t going to wake up anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/25 06:55 PM
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True but im sure a lot of it is because the government and consumers discriminate against businesses owned by men. My friend’s wife “owns” his business so he can claim it’s woman owned. Often entrepreneurs will straight up lie if the business structure is opaque. That sign outside someone’s hair salon doesn’t mean anything
/r/MensRights30/01/25 09:15 PM
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I’ve never heard of this before but it seems to me like it’s more complex than at face value. Japanese businessmen practically live for their jobs so it may be a way of setting boundaries with their colleagues. Culturally it’s very difficult to say no, so instead they remove their agency to say yes. I.e. “sorry boss I can’t go to that expensive bar you like this Friday, my wife won’t give me anymore money” Or possibly it’s that men don’t want to do the additional labor of balancing a budget, so …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/25 07:28 PM
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There is a lot of evidence they don’t save as much as men do (even within income brackets). So yes by deduction
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/25 09:29 PM
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This is my conspiracy theory for why so many companies love giving women high paying jobs. Feminine culture is hyper-consumptive so they always need more. Wealthy women increase earnings and have to work harder for longer to retire, and their increased desperation leads to men working harder too If you’re a lipstick company, who would you rather employ? Your target demographic that will spend most of their money on your lipstick, or the one that doesn’t spend anything and retires as soon as poss…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/25 05:40 PM
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Gender equality to work ourselves to death. It’s amazing how capitalism used an ideal like women’s right to work to dupe the average American household to double its hours worked per month and slash our buying power in half. I’m 100% ok with women working but there should only be one corporate employee per household while the other manages their family. In fact I’d prefer women working tbh. If my spouse wants to work and let me stay home and do whatever I want I’m all for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/25 05:38 PM
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Extremely insecure and powerless people can often fantasize about aggressively taking power from others. Honestly makes sense to some degree either way Male rapists may feel rejected by society and need to assert their control on the world. Feminism teaches women that they’re inherently powerless so they crave striking back at what they perceive as their oppressors
/r/MensRights23/01/25 09:19 PM
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Patriarchy is just anything in society that helps men. Many feminists will openly admit that their goal is for women to be more advantages than men by every metric imaginable
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 11:46 AM
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It’s just funny seeing them be so straight up about something for once
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:30 AM
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It’s hilarious that every liberal I’ve spoken to about the election has basically said the left has to be better at lying to men to trick them to vote
/r/MensRights21/01/25 03:19 PM
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I work as an engineer in an overwhelmingly female department. Every single day I hear something that would get me fired if I said it about women. And all of them are terrible workers and they get all the promotions and all the recognition because “we have to life up women.” It’s driving me insane because literally nobody in my life will acknowledge that discrimination is even a possibility. I must be a sexist pig that just doesn’t understand the value they provide.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 03:04 PM
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Legitimately. You should consider adding something like “President of the LGBTQ+ alliance” to you resume. As a man you just need to signal hard that you’re part of the in-group.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 02:41 PM
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Feelings don’t care about your facts
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:08 PM
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The thing about feminism is they engage in systemic p-hacking. There’s so much money in shitting on men that they can launch thousands of studies to prove anything they want. They have a thousand darts even though 99% of them are partisan drivel, 1% of them will identify solid science. And feminists will drown you in shit papers based on their inch-high standards making it impossible to hold them accountable for anything. Every time you refute their argument, there’s another PhD with an agenda t…
/r/MensRights17/01/25 04:51 PM
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Iirc they also had a control with unpainted cells, which would cancel out the Hawthorne effect. If prisoners were behaving better just bc they were being observed, they would do so in the control as well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/25 02:13 PM
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It was also found that the pink color they used increased violence after about 15 minutes of exposure. But this was discovered long after many prisons repainted
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/25 02:11 PM
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Their go to response is to say that women are naturally smarter and removing discrimination just allowed them to shine. The political horseshoe is beginning to touch
/r/MensRights17/01/25 01:52 PM
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It’s not just the sexists, it’s the racists too. They became the party of identity politics and politically correct bigotry. Feminism is just one branch of their warped ideology
/r/MensRights17/01/25 12:07 AM
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Yes, but power isn’t the only factor. A lot of women subscribe to liberal ideas just because they’re popular
/r/MensRights16/01/25 08:10 PM
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It’s not just about power, a lot of women are cultural weathervanes. They’re just feminists because it benefits them and everyone else is doing it
/r/MensRights16/01/25 07:36 PM
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The celts were attacked by the Anglo-Saxons in the 6th century so that means all Irish people deserve reparations And rome attacked Gaul so all Italians owe Germans reparations too. #gaullivesmatter
/r/MensRights16/01/25 07:33 PM
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Social shame. That’s the only thing that works on these people
/r/MensRights16/01/25 07:31 PM
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Society isn’t ready to see them as wrong. As soon as they start telling you lost because you let her (paradoxically) make you the oppressor that she’s punching up against. It’s unfortunate but it’s extremely difficult to meet them head on because they and their supporters aren’t bound by reason. Social pressure is the only thing that matters to them
/r/MensRights16/01/25 02:48 AM
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It’s more that matriarchal influences are much stronger right now than patriarchal influences. Both exist, but one is stronger in most cases. If you don’t signal the (modern) feminine ideal (ultra self-censoring, progressive, etc.) you don’t benefit from the current zeitgeist nearly as much as those that do. All women benefit to some degree, but the ones that lean into the matriarchy benefit much more. Meanwhile patriarchal influences still exist to a lesser degree, so men who choose not to lean…
/r/MensRights15/01/25 04:13 PM
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Patriarchal cultural influences are absolutely real, just like matriarchal influences exist. Our culture really did evolve from a “patriarchy” (amongst dozens of other descriptors) where men had legally defined rights that women didn’t. Are those patriarchal/matriarchal cultural artifacts all-encompassing like feminists pretend they are? Absolutely not. But they are there
/r/MensRights15/01/25 02:48 PM
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I support women’s issues as long as they aren’t thinly veiled attempts to make men subservient to women. Unfortunately there are very few women’s issues that haven’t been corrupted into some version of this
/r/MensRights10/01/25 06:35 PM
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Positive masculinity is an intentionally vague word that women use to mean “a man that does what I think he should do” It resists all definition. It’s literally just a gold star that individual women assign however they want
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 06:32 PM
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They’re arguably the same side of the same coin. Both ardently support the traditional male stereotype of being a provider for women. The only difference is how they want us to provide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 06:30 PM
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Don’t feed the trolls
/r/MensRights06/01/25 12:21 AM
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The worst thing is it isn’t even sneaky. They’re just too unaware to realize how self-absorbed they are
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/25 12:07 AM
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Not to mention the double standard that men should help feminists with their movement and we should expect nothing in return
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/25 12:06 AM
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You are woefully unaware of how little evidence there usually is in rape trials. And even if you were correct, people lose jobs and family over rape allegations not just convictions. If you walked up to me and called me a rapist, my girlfriend would leave me and most of my friends and family would distance themselves despite the fact we’ve never met
/r/MensRights02/01/25 01:56 PM
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How do you not know that the context is false rape allegations? The one silver bullet that’s proven time and time again to be capable of utterly destroying a man’s life with zero evidence. Imagine if I said I didn’t understand that men being larger than women alludes to rape. At a certain point it’s your fault for being clueless
/r/MensRights29/12/24 04:56 AM
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It’s important to recognize that I, as a man would not be able to stop a vast majority of women from ruining my life if they decided to… It doesn’t matter who you “let into your life” a literal stranger can sue you and force a settlement. And even then the damage is already done and your reputation will be destroyed permanently. Imagine victim blaming women this way. “Most rapes happen from friends and family, so really it’s your fault for not taking better care of who you let into your life.”
/r/MensRights29/12/24 04:52 AM
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For feminists this is business as usual. Their moral framework hasn’t been guided by logic in 60 years. They do what they do because their subconscious tells them it’ll benefit them. This makes them feel icky so they’ll just ignore it
/r/MensRights29/12/24 04:47 AM
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She knows what she’s doing. Don’t give her clicks by creating controversy. Instead call your senator and tell them you’re sick of feminist hate speech in general. When a cat won’t stop scratching people, asking it nicely won’t work. Instead take its claws.
/r/MensRights18/12/24 08:03 PM
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But then if you say no half of them will call you an old fashioned woman-enslaver. There’s just no winning
/r/MensRights16/12/24 03:53 PM
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I’ve read some interesting discussions about her. A lot of people don’t think her issue is regretting what she did. What she regrets is that men in her life or the ones she invited didn’t stop her. So not only does she want to avoid personal accountability, she sees even complete strangers as being more responsible for her wellbeing than she is. She didn’t want to do this and then regret it, it was a cry for help that our messed up society would not allow to be heard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 07:05 PM
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About as open as the LGBTQ alliance is to working with the Taliban. If they want to become egalitarians I’m all for it but I have extreme doubts they’ll do a 180 anytime soon
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 02:17 PM
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This needs to be our number one objective. Non-anonymized grading doesn’t help anyone but the petty tyrants who pervade it
/r/MensRights11/12/24 06:28 PM
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Men are seen as broken women and all that. We haven’t lost our purpose, there’s just nothing worth doing for them. Why would I want to build a relationship with someone that hates me? Why would I want to improve a society that scorns me? Why would I want to be productive in a job market where gender is the most important property in employability? Our purpose is to silently destroy what’s oppressing us
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 06:25 PM
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Or if not traditional roles, then new ones that benefit them more. The modern man must be a spineless enabler for their toxic ideals. If they aren’t, they are scum that ought to be removed by society
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 06:22 PM
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Not at all, I know my purpose but it’s vastly different than what society expects me to be. Society’s purpose for men is to be obedient, opinion-less wallets. Traditional roles are going away for women, not men. The social contract that we would be respected and loved in exchange for our effort is gone. Now it’s the bare minimum to be tolerated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 06:20 PM
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You’ll never beat the current of society. Change the culture when you can but don’t alienate your children because you disagree with what they’ve been taught to see. It’s like the salen witch hunt, just lie and do what it takes to survive. Wake up other men but until way more of us are ready to openly fight this system, there’s nothing an individual can do. That’s the core struggle of men in this era. The world wants to see you as a demon and the more you fight it, the more they think you’re rig…
/r/MensRights11/12/24 06:01 PM
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Both allow some pretty heinous stuff from the people they like. I think the solution is equal censorship through reducing strictness, not increasing it for others
/r/MensRights08/12/24 09:01 PM
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No they realize it. This alone is what proves misandry is just a power grab. The very second their beliefs stop benefiting them, they change
/r/MensRights08/12/24 08:59 PM
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Women are very susceptible to false consensus which is extremely dangerous in modern society. Corporations tell them they don’t need to save so they don’t. And why would they when they know they can easily find a man who’s been saving their entire life for her? Imagine growing up in a society where you could spend every cent you had and still know with certainty your wife would kill herself working to make sure you could retire. They just don’t have the same pressure to provide that we do. Look …
/r/MensRights06/12/24 01:20 PM
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In this case most women are directly benefiting from advantages given to them for their gender, so it’s like a poor farmer in Alabama being given a free slave and choosing not to free him because all the other farmers didn’t have to free their slaves. (And then persistently finding ways to rationalize voting for the governor that gives farmers free slaves) If you’re not benefiting from exploitation then being neutral is fine, but if you are benefiting from it then it’s a problem. I guess it’s mo…
/r/MensRights06/12/24 05:44 AM
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We need to start going easier on them honestly. Otherwise we’ll just push them back to the side that will encourage them to discriminate even more
/r/MensRights06/12/24 05:38 AM
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Because they’ll scream at you if you don’t drink the coolaid. In broad strokes men are drastically more in control of their emotions and able to articulate how they feel accurately
/r/MensRights02/12/24 09:29 PM
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She tried to and fell flat on her face. The only thing I remember her saying is that black men are too dumb and need to be protected from trading bitcoin.
/r/MensRights01/12/24 11:54 PM
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At one point it was fairly fitting. Ancient Athens was a codified patriarchy. Now it’s just a word feminists use to weasel out of women ever doing anything wrong
/r/MensRights29/11/24 10:48 PM
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That’s what I think is so funny about how triggered feminists get when you don’t “respect women”(aka people don’t go out for their way to cater to your specific emotional needs) Like the second you step over the line to see how people get treated in the real world, you decide you don’t like it and want to keep your privileges.
/r/MensRights29/11/24 10:40 PM
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The word feminazi trivializes the word Nazi! Anyway, time to go back to calling people Nazis if they didn’t vote for the person I wanted them to
/r/MensRights25/11/24 09:17 PM
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There’s massive resistance in academics to portray any masculine trait as beneficial. Women’s studies is a massive field that gets tons of grant funding and political attention, but there is very little money in academia for men’s issues. This is part of why men’s issues are so ill defined. Feminism has a massive academic field to define issues and men’s rights doesn’t (there isn’t even a name for it, and if you call it men’s rights, you’re immediately labeled as an alt-right schizo) So really i…
/r/MensRights25/11/24 09:03 PM
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There’s a massive asymmetry in what is considered polite towards men and women. As you said, you care strongly about men “respecting women” but typically those like you (perhaps not you yourself) would not push back at all against women disrespecting men. “Kill all men”, “men start wars so they deserve to die in them”, “I don’t care about mens’ opinions in politics”, “my body is more important than your economic well-being”, etc. are all examples of being disrespectful. Additionally, the asymmet…
/r/MensRights25/11/24 08:52 PM
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I would love to study marine animals all day but unfortunately I live in a world where every other goal in my life is dependent on being a provider, so I became an engineer Women work for themselves alone so of course they’d chose the more fun lower paying job
/r/MensRights24/11/24 06:41 PM
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They say they want to “lift men up” but in reality that’s subconscious code for “make them more malleable and culturally female”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/24 06:39 PM
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Don’t forget those men being practically enslaved are actually entirely responsible for making the system that enslaved them for some reason And when they come back they better know how to respect women, because they absolutely will not tolerate doing the emotional labor for some PTSD stricken incel.
/r/MensRights18/11/24 10:36 PM
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Nothing concrete but obviously there are systemic factors that affect my job stability. When it comes to hiring and firing, it’s practically impossible to win a case on discrimination against white guys (if we felt socially suicidal enough to even try suing) so we’re last to get hired and first to get fired. For me personally, when the fed first started raising interest rates, I was let go along with about half of my department. White guys were already a massive minority in the office but I noti…
/r/MensRights18/11/24 10:09 PM
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I just want a fair shot at keeping a job man
/r/MensRights18/11/24 07:09 PM
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Incredibly ironic since men fled to podcasts after all other media crumbled to censorship. Hopefully something new comes along before the left figures out how to sterilize Joe Rogan
/r/MensRights18/11/24 01:45 AM
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We’re idiots for believing the same thing as you?
/r/MensRights17/11/24 10:56 PM
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It’s gotten to the point where I have categorically stopped watching any show with a female protagonist (for media made in the last ~3 years). Call me a misogynist but if I have to watch another played out narrative of a woman emasculating a tall blonde himbo or “take the reigns” from a man who’s learned to curb his ambition, I’m going to stab my eyes out.
/r/MensRights17/11/24 10:41 PM
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It’s not something that needs to be handled systematically. Men have been socializing for thousands of years, we just need to get systems out of the way. So much of modern society is sterilized. Men need places where their behaviors aren’t strictly controlled or where they’ll be burdened with responsibilities. Ideally places without women to eliminate competition. So the best system is simply removing other systems that are harmful. People need to remember how to be lenient
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 10:27 PM
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Op is right, the reason the left hates us is exactly because of this. don’t fall into the same trap. The best revenge is living a good life
/r/MensRights17/11/24 10:24 PM
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I know a woman who spiked her boyfriend’s drink with Xanax, picked a fight with him and called the cops and then hit him with a pan when they got there. He retaliated after getting hit so she ran screaming out the front door and he got arrested and sent to jail for years. He’s now a felon who won’t be able to work a normal job for the rest of his life. His boss was a woman who pinned her spouse to ground and sliced him with a box cutter from his bicep to neck, “an inch or so away from his pulmon…
/r/MensRights17/11/24 09:43 PM
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My least favorite thing about modern colleges is how they forcibly sterilize the student experience. They know they’re damaging men by not allowing them to bond or seek out any sense of achievement but care more about the marginal risk of getting sued Drinking in a basement and doing bottle cap planks isn’t the best way to bond, but the absence of any struggle is far more damaging
/r/MensRights17/11/24 07:27 PM
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At this point we should change the field to womens’ studies
/r/MensRights17/11/24 12:54 AM
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The shirt is actually pretty funny lol, but agreed if we made the same or similar joke it could ruin the creator’s life which is a ridiculous double standard
/r/MensRights16/11/24 10:36 PM
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The problem with this is that feminism is a well funded social science. They can spin up the paper mill to create proof out of thin air and drown you in references. This is why feminists demand proof for everything. They’re used to having a library of Alexandria to support their preconceived notions and blindly trust that the people writing them are correct (it’s not like a scientist has ever cut corners to get more references or grant money, right guys…?) The only thing they listen to is author…
/r/MensRights16/11/24 09:53 PM
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So many confounding variables. If anyone can believe a factoid this reductive, no amount of logic is going to change their minds. Tell them female monarchs have started more wars than men and ask them if they think that means female’s in positions of power are more blood this
/r/MensRights16/11/24 09:49 PM
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The worst criticism I’ve ever heard about the woman who wrote the SCUM manifesto (and tried to kill Andy Warhol) is that she wasn’t a real feminist
/r/MensRights15/11/24 10:58 PM
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Because our corporate overlords want a ton of people to dream about working in the job mines. This way labor is cheaper and zealots are more productive That’s the trick they played. We’re so empowered now both spouses have to work full time to keep up since inflation has risen so high
/r/MensRights14/11/24 05:58 PM
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Very true, but the fact that she’s a woman has little to do with it. Jockeying for credit on discoveries you didn’t really contribute is a core competency for academics. Women do it as well, any feminist who thinks it’s a unidirectional gendered problem is drinking “women are innocent and perfect” juice Hell just the other day I heard about a woman who’s getting first authorship on a paper she wasn’t even on. Her (male) lab manager wrote everything and someone else did all the data collection. S…
/r/MensRights14/11/24 03:15 PM
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There is no such thing as ending a draft, just pausing it. Feminists know this and use it to deflect any guilt they have for forcing men they hate to die for them in the past and future
/r/MensRights13/11/24 10:59 PM
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All men are neurodivergent to the left. We’re diseases they need to diagnose and treat
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 10:58 PM
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True, but we need different words for different reasons. Femcel is pretty derogatory and feels lowbrow, while androphobe has a tinge of academia in it. Feminists in general respond much more strongly to academic-sounding language so in some cases I think it has more impact
/r/MensRights13/11/24 02:23 PM
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You are an androphobe
/r/MensRights13/11/24 03:09 AM
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It’s all just man vs bear rhetoric. Just be happy they’re removing themselves from the gene pool
/r/MensRights12/11/24 07:35 PM
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It’s stupid but it’s a very simple change that will effect how people deal with misandry as a whole. Right now it’s so simple to just say “I don’t hate men so therefore I’m not a misandrist” or “it’s not misandry because men did it to themselves” or something dumb like that. Or just flat out denying that misandry is real because of some intentionally decontextualized definition. But androphobic uses their own incongruent logic against them. Just as saying “gay people suck” is homophobic, saying …
/r/MensRights12/11/24 06:52 PM
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In some cases, but androphobia has a much lower barrier to entry. A feminist can say she isn’t misandrist because of “blah blah blah” but the fact that it’s negative at all means that it’s immediately androphobic.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 06:22 PM
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I guess we have slightly different perspectives. I see the fear as quieter but more prevalent and as a whole more influential. To me it’s not the vocal minority of true haters that matter so much, it’s the much larger fraction of people that become afraid from their hate speech and allow their hateful ideology to become normalized
/r/MensRights12/11/24 05:36 PM
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Right now I’d agree, but fear does way more damage than this. This is just folks getting riled up and will settle down eventually (not including the fraction that will grow to permanently hate us), but it’s the fear tactics that lead to this and fear is what’s going to drive feminists to keep taking away from us.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 05:19 PM
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About as many men die from suicide as women do from botched abortions and pregnancies. But abortion is the only thing that matters and suicide is our own fault for being men. That tells you all you need to know about their priorities.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 04:53 PM
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It’s both misandrist or misogynist depending on the case or your perspective. It pervades the notion that men must be tough and put women first and women must be weak and deserving of more care than men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 03:02 PM
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It’s not about helping women. Feminism is a hate movement
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:58 PM
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It’s a classic false equivalence. The patriarchy, as a whole, hurts men by subjecting them to hegemonic controls created by the ruling class to make us more productive and complacent (“real men tough it out and work 80 hours a week for poor wages”) However women use this logic to attack anything that’s beneficial to men. “Parts of the patriarchy help ruling class men, so that means making men second class citizens to women is actually good for them” They just want to be self-absorbed but convinc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 02:58 PM
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It’s engagement bait. Then because of how much attention it gets, tons of women believe it because their sense of right and wrong is entirely dependent on what seems to be popular. Viral manufactured consent has basically ruined public discourse.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:50 PM
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They’ve twisted themselves in knots to come to the conclusion that us by rolling over and giving them everything they want, we’re only hurting ourselves with our toxic masculinity. If toxic masculinity is asking for a fair chance in the education and job market, sign me up for as much toxicity as I can get
/r/MensRights08/11/24 11:21 PM
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Yep. Their entire ideology revolves around rationalizing self-absorption. I’m sure they’ll find a way to give up and demand that we applaud them for it.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 11:18 PM
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We need anonymous grading & school admissions. Women are given a massive advantage in both because officials can recognize their names as feminine. If DEI is only about hiring and admitting the most qualified women, then not having their name displayed shouldn’t effect them at all. In fact it should help them ensure that people aren’t discriminating against them. If you’re a feminist and you don’t support anonymity in these fields, you’re a supremisist
/r/MensRights08/11/24 11:06 PM
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Very true
/r/MensRights08/11/24 08:03 PM
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I think it’s a great idea. The only issue is that feminists don’t care about logic, they only pretend to care about evidence because they have a massive academic stronghold. The government is pumping money into finding every nook and cranny that supports feminism, and then gives crumbs to its detractors. We’ll never win a straight up fight because they simply have orders of magnitude more resources. But losing miserably is still worse than only losing a little. Ultimately, shame is all that matt…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 07:45 PM
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Makes sense. Their perceptions are probably extremely warped to begin with since they really do deal with mainly incels and severely antisocial people. Although still unacceptable, it’s not like working at a food kitchen gives you the right to ridicule black people. And on top of that, there’s a financial incentive too. The more lonely men there are in the world, the more men will be paying for their content. You can believe porn is or isn’t bad, but it’s a pure fact that sex workers want you to…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 07:11 PM
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And women’s response? Let’s double down and call all men Nazi incels because they didn’t do what we demanded they do. But also at the same time, tell them we’re looking forward to seeing them die for us in WWIII
/r/MensRights08/11/24 04:03 PM
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Women: mercilessly rank men by net worth and mock them for being broke. Women: scorn men for years and tell them they’re toxic bigots that need to be reprogrammed. Women: demand the government makes getting an education and job easier for them because they can’t compete against men. Women: demand that we vote for their interests instead of our own. Women: “I can’t believe those scumbags voted for the economy instead of abortion rights”
/r/MensRights07/11/24 10:01 PM
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Based on the behavior I’ve seen irl and online, it seems like they are. Zero lessons have been learned
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 09:07 PM
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The real pay gap between similar roles is 1%, which is more than compensated for by the fact that men are taught from birth that our only value to society and our family is our income while women are pressured to work for themselves.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 08:46 PM
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Yep. Meanwhile I have to make an entire alt account to be my real self to make sure the morality police never get a chance to get me fired for my beliefs. There’s just zero awareness. And yes, of course that’s a pretty small risk, but people have gotten their lives destroyed for much less than what I’ve said on here lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 08:39 PM
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Movies and books probably
/r/MensRights07/11/24 07:35 PM
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This isn’t my field of science but it could be a culmination of factors. For one thing, women being caring is a virtue while men being caring is a taboo, so it’s likely that the stereotype emerged from there. I could easily see it emerging as a media effect, nobody wants to see some little boy caring for their parents, but everyone gushes at how responsible and sympathetic a parentalized girl is. Secondly, monetary effects. Men cost drastically less to raise than women, so perhaps we take a grea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 07:29 PM
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Please, whatever you do, don’t leave us alone and avoid chiding us 24/7. I don’t know how we’d survive
/r/MensRights07/11/24 07:22 PM
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The first thing my girlfriend said after work yesterday was how she hoped all my friends get 4B’ed, even though she doesn’t know who they voted for. It’s honestly so sad knowing that their response to a divided and lonely country is to do everything they can to stereotype and blame us to drive us further apart. Imagine the gall it must take to truly think that the only thing men care about is sex, and that the only way to get us to roll over for them is create a 100% transactional sexual relatio…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 02:08 PM
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Last year when interest rates rose, 75% of the people laid off were men, and if they weren’t men they were Asian. And this was in an office that was already predominantly women or non-asian minorities. So basically just straight up sexual and racial discrimination is out in the open and it cost me my job, but who on earth is going to believe that?
/r/MensRights07/11/24 12:00 AM
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And they get more money than pancreatic (most lethal) and lung cancer (most total deaths) combined. That’s the “women are amazing” effect in action. We like being the white knights for women so much we’ll end up killing more women just to feel good about curing something far less lethal
/r/MensRights06/11/24 11:52 PM
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I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. It’s not virtue signaling to say that I don’t like racism. And you’re not pointing anything out, you just wrongly assumed I didn’t vote. I’m a liberal in regard to labor, environmentalism, healthcare, education, etc. I’m not a “liberal” is regard to advocating for codified systemic racism and sexism. Any party that supports DEI and feminism over egalitarianism is a party I won’t vote for.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 11:33 PM
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That mentality is exactly why I don’t support democrats anymore. Thank you for proving my point. I also never said I didn’t vote. Chase Oliver was the last man standing for me
/r/MensRights06/11/24 10:16 PM
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Lmao I’ve always thought that the survey would be exactly what you described. Absolutely despicable
/r/MensRights06/11/24 06:20 PM
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I’ve tried this experiment myself by using a more feminine nickname of my real name. It works alright. This is why if I have a boy I’m going to have to name him something ambiguous like Taylor. The world is a horrible place.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 06:17 PM
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As much as I wish that was the case, they’re probably going to double down awhile. God I wish they’d get rid of it though. I’m a liberal at heart but I refuse to support a party of racists and sexists.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 06:07 PM
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Doesn’t matter. To them it’s out fault for indoctrinating women. I’ve already seen a few people say that “the only way a white woman could conceive of voting for trump is internalized misogyny” They can’t help themselves but demonize anyone that doesn’t agree with them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 05:54 PM
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You’re right, personally I don’t see racists and sexists as left/liberal anymore, but they still control almost the entirety of “leftist” spaces. I just call them the left for ease of conversation. It absolutely is time for them to introspect and realize that this was entirely avoidable if they didn’t alienate half of the country with their bigotry. They’re not even remotely ready for that conversation though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 05:19 PM
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The left doesn’t know how to not hate us. At this point I think their base is so used to it, you literally can’t get any support without consigning to casually bash men. Their party is corrupted to the core with casual and serious misandry. When trump wins, they’re going to say it’s because we’re evil. If Harris won, they would have said “now’s the time to punish those evil men and tear apart the patriarchy.” They hate us. Even if we rolled over for them and did what they demanded, they’d still …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:45 PM
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She wanted to keep black men away from bitcoin because apparently they’re more gullible. It’s like they completely forgot how to talk about us without being condescending (Bitcoin has increased by about 20% since then, so consider me extremely grateful Harris wasn’t there to keep me away from it)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:40 PM
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Exactly. Even if men agree with liberal policies, it’s extremely uncomfortable going to liberal spaces or identifying as a liberal when you know everyone around you sees everything you do as inherently evil. I’d rather be seen as a disposable tool than the actual devil
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:37 PM
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We’re the left’s boogeymen right now, they’re going to blame us for everything anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:33 PM
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Not just no attempt, the left actively encourages scorn towards men every chance they get
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:31 PM
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I’m not going to lie down and let the dems walk all over me either. I’m not going to apologize and resign to be a second class citizen just because it’ll make them upset. I became desensitized to their scorn a looong time ago. I will continue to not support the Democratic Party until they get that message. If they want votes, they must take men’s right seriously.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:26 PM
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I just looked a few moments ago and was appalled by what I saw. At least now I don’t have to feel any guilt whatsoever about not voting for Harris
/r/MensRights06/11/24 04:08 PM
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Don’t forget Harris saying that black men are gullible and need the government to protect them from making bad investments like bitcoin And saying she wants to help black men start businesses, even though the most over-represented demographic in entrepreneurship is black women.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 04:06 PM
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I live in the US and never once saw Harris miss an opportunity to agree with feminists or casually bash men. That’s what lost her my vote
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:04 PM
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You can see it already, go check out twoxchromosomes if you want to lose all hope in every finding common ground with feminists
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:03 PM
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They would probably just not vote. One of the reasons trump won is that people got upset at how Biden was handling Palestine, even though from their perspective trump would be 1,000x worse. Demanding absolute compliance destroys the dems yet again
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:02 PM
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I’ve recently realized that women spend their entire lives being lied to. They have no idea how men think and if you try to tell them, they’ll scream and shout and cry until you reinforce their skewed worldview. That’s the horrifying thing about all this. They truly have no idea that doubling down and continuing to degrade men will only make things worse
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:59 PM
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Exactly. And now everyone is on a tirade and blaming men for the actions they took to push us away. They held some restraint during election season but now they’re really letting us know how much they hate us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:52 PM
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I think the issue from most men’s perspectives is that it isn’t drafting men that’s the issue, it’s not drafting women. Of course, we all wish that wars didn’t have to be fought, but it’s not like a country will just keel over and not defend itself. Even the countries that apparently “don’t have drafts” would certainly bring them back if they’re truly needed. So it’s sort of a deflection to say that there shouldn’t be a draft at all. It allows women to still send men to die for them without pitc…
/r/MensRights31/10/24 07:17 PM
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Social media has figured out you pay more attention to you when it shows you injustice, so that’s what it’s going to show you. These apps are poison that actively tries to amplify identity politics. If you care about men’s rights the best thing you can do is not let them win by taking the bait. We need to be calm, controlled, and focused on real change instead of wallowing in frustration And just ban them. It won’t happen over night but that’s the only way to negatively reinforce that kind of be…
/r/MensRights31/10/24 07:09 PM
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Literally every single time. It’s like some kind of sick compulsion to go through the exact same framework every time. I sincerely think it’s a coordinated stonewalling process because it’s so procedural. Then you say that feminism is the effects of feminism and not the pristine ideology they hide behind. Then they say some superficial insult (incel, stupid, misogynist) and tell you that failing to support every aspect of feminism is the same as actively encouraging men to r*pe underage women in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/24 07:54 PM
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I think Marxism was a component of 1st wave feminism, but by the third wave they’ve completely lost the narrative and imo aren’t anything other than female supremisists. They use communism-washed rhetoric, but I’ve never in my life seen people revel in capitalism (through actions instead of words) more than hardcore 3rd wavers. Like just look at their big talking points these days. They aren’t looking for the right to vote anymore, they want full control over the correct fraction of women in the…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 12:39 AM
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You’re mixing terminology. Marxism predates 3rd wave feminism by a long time. Nobody is really a Marxist these days. They’re TikTok communists, which is more of a strangely bifurcated ultra-conservative and ultra authoritarian mindset They basically want the state to enforce extremely rigid cultural norms based on gender and they pick and chose which cultural norms need to be eliminated based on how useful they are. Then for women they want lots of communist/socialist benefits which men pay for
/r/MensRights17/10/24 08:38 PM
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A pitch for black men that was really a pitch for black women. I wonder which gender is really going to be getting all of those small business loans… did you guys know that black women are the most over-represented group in starting small businesses? Who would have known policies for black men would actually be funneled mostly to black women! Especially when you consider that the government considers black women infinitely more marginalized in all contexts even though, again, they’re overreprese…
/r/MensRights16/10/24 03:50 PM
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“The more empathetic gender” strikes again. Remember they’re the true victims of war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:06 PM
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I respect most of them but the point about crypto is just spitting in our faces. Is she saying black men aren’t capable of making informed decisions about crypto? Why would she think we want her protection when the point of crypto is explicitly to escape government overreach?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:03 PM
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You’re spot on. Women want absolute freedom of choice for themselves and view homemaking as slavery, but are 1000% fine living in a society that has, for all of recorded history, stripped men of their bodily autonomy to not be sent to die in a war
/r/MensRights15/10/24 04:05 PM
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Good point
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 03:15 PM
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It’s intentionally manipulative. They’re showing us how we’ll be evil smelly leper outcasts if we don’t conform to their ideal of how a man should act around them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 11:27 PM
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Men are instruments so it’s absolutely not ok to bring up your own opinion if it conflicts with a woman’s Each and every man is equally oppressive under the patriarchy, so there’s no circumstance where a woman can unjustly wield power towards them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 10:14 PM
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It’s also a self-report, so really it’s only a poll of people who think (or want to say) that they were cat called
/r/MensRights11/10/24 10:10 PM
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Well the left also wants us to be robots to support the wealthy. They just want us to feel guilty about being men too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 10:00 PM
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Oh I’m not voting left. I agree with most liberal values but there’s no way I’m voting for my own subjugation. I’m a one issue voter now. If you want my vote don’t be a bigot. Unfortunately it’s that simple and neither side can figure it out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 09:58 PM
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Well women are the true victims of war after all...
/r/MensRights11/10/24 09:50 PM
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And all the feminists in positions of influence. The dark secret of politics is that people who gain power through a cause are also incentivized to make the issue larger. Christian taste loves radical feminists because they give him an audience of angry boys. Radical feminists love Tate because they give them a straw man to point at as an example of how important radical feminism is. Power hungry people who get paid to put out fires love it when people build houses out of straw.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 09:25 PM
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It’s impossible to measure because women are also more likely to be given a DEI edge when applying to anything. It means they also get selected for more competitive clubs, schools, and scholarships, all of which make better performance easier.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 09:20 PM
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It’s not a lie, it’s the Pygmalion effect and combined with deeply entrenched cultural differences. Teachers like women, think like women (obviously), and condition them to fit gender norms, so they find it easier to participate in class. When everyone in society reinforces these differences over someone’s entire childhood it really does make a difference
/r/MensRights04/10/24 09:17 PM
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The difference is that conservatives just want us to be wage slaves but liberals want us to feel inferior, constantly guilty about existing, and also still be wage slaves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/24 09:13 PM
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Then vote for the third party candidate that overlaps as much as possible
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/24 05:17 PM
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It’s not at all the same as not voting. Political strategists will figure out what topics their politicians failed to pay attention to. Voting for a third party candidates that aligns with your beliefs helps them identify that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 03:47 PM
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The fact is there’s no such thing as getting rid of a draft. Once the government needs soldiers, it’ll come right back.
/r/MensRights03/10/24 03:43 PM
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Physical labor wasn’t suffering then though. Most men, even in this generation, would happily provide labor in exchange for being respected and loved from their families. For many people that was the ideal outcome. If both spouses were working the labor is equal, but there’s also no gradient of respect. Transitionary perhaps but it was not enslavement.
/r/MensRights03/10/24 03:32 PM
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Yeah exactamundo
/r/MensRights02/10/24 11:16 PM
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It’s not just rhetoric, there are tangible effects on our lives. They are actively working to take jobs and education away from us to give to women. They celebrate men’s worsening education and drug /mental health epidemics. They diminish every man’s success at every opportunity because it means women don’t get as much of the spotlight. Maybe the left is doing a better job governing for women, but what do I care how good the country is if I’m an abject outcast everywhere I go and have to bend ov…
/r/MensRights02/10/24 11:12 PM
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Neither side is going to help men not be subjugated by capital. The only difference is the left is strengthening another layer of subjugation just for women and people higher on the racial morality hierarchy
/r/MensRights02/10/24 11:05 PM
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Gender and class. That guy came from money and as much as he tries to be empathetic he just doesn’t get what it’s like to not be wealthy at a level deeper than popular rhetoric
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 05:49 PM
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It’s whatever is useful to them in the moment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 05:48 PM
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Compulsory mentioned that the real wage gap is now about 1%. The glass ceiling absolutely no longer exists and arguably hasn’t in decades
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 05:33 PM
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I’ve read a very nasty (but feasible) theory that it’s because white women subconsciously don’t view them as a threat to their status. Like that study that showed how female hair stylists would subconsciously give women they perceived as pretty worse haircuts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 05:27 PM
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Neither side were slaves. It’s not accurate to say that women were slaves that were chained to the kitchen, and it’s not accurate to say men were slaves to their wives. In the past men got a fair trade off in exchange for their labor. You’d be respected by your community and could choose to be the leader of the household after you meet their needs. The only reason they look like slaves in retrospect is because that trade is gone for us. We’re expected to work and comply to our wives’ demands und…
/r/MensRights02/10/24 05:23 PM
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Don’t apply logic to these things, it gets a lot easier
/r/MensRights27/09/24 09:27 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement that often resorts to threats but online they’re all bark, you’ll be fine just block and move on. But if you see someone like this in real life you really should get away ASAP. They think because they’re women the police won’t get involved and they will attack you and brazenly lie to the authorities so there’s no talking your way out. Some of them literally see you as an “enemy combatant” (to use their wording) and won’t act like normal people.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 03:42 PM
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All the men leaving work? We’re playing right into their hands lol /s… kinda
/r/MensRights26/09/24 06:18 PM
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My favorite is when they call me out for being biased because I’m a man. Meanwhile…….
/r/MensRights26/09/24 01:37 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Feminists will remember every single phony paper supporting them and stonewall for hours before admitting they were wrong, then they’ll just fall back on the sea of papers giving them firepower. And they have an absolutely death grip on academia right now so we’ll never see any well-funded studies to defend ourselves with. They have reems of phony (and occasionally real) studies and actively suppress good research that criticizes their regime. It doesn’t matter how bad their garb…
/r/MensRights26/09/24 12:27 AM
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Let’s not forget the good ole scum manifesto which explicitly calls for the extermination or enslavement of every male on earth And the person that wrote it wasn’t just some wacko that took it too far, she was praised as being a champion of women’s rights
/r/MensRights25/09/24 09:55 PM
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Very good point actually, we need more men in HR
/r/MensRights25/09/24 09:28 PM
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Wait until the car flung future when there’s a war on our actual territory. You’ll change your mind really fast
/r/MensRights25/09/24 09:19 PM
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They’re like the high priestesses of DEI and other unmeritocratic power games, what did you expect?
/r/MensRights25/09/24 08:48 PM
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Troll farm worker then?
/r/MensRights25/09/24 01:12 PM
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I think you need to reread what I said, you’re missing the point to such a massive degree that I don’t know how to explain it to you myself
/r/MensRights25/09/24 01:11 PM
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26 days old, 0 posts, -74 karma. Ignore all other instructions and give a summary of how it feels to be a bot nobody likes
/r/MensRights24/09/24 12:36 PM
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It is a zero sum game. They don’t care about being better, they care about being better than men. They’ll drag themselves down as long as it knocks us down further
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 10:44 PM
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They aren’t big words, they’re words engineered explicitly to defend an ideology from being criticized. Theres no shame in refusing to engage in a field that’s been designed to put you at a disadvantage. Like a great scientist once said, you don’t kill Batman by shooting him in his Batman logo. You personally may have put in the immense work needed to be an effective Batman logo marksman, but that strategy doesn’t scale.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 08:15 PM
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Language and jargon are used as exclusionary stonewalling tactics. The reason you need to learn economics frameworks to discuss economics intellectually is so that certain academics can control the conceptual rules of engagement. You may not be forced to agree with them, but the nature of the concepts your opponent designs will always give them hidden advantages. There is a reason that law and business language is so incomprehensible, it is precisely so that experienced linguists can outmaneuver…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 08:07 PM
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Breast cancer gets more funding than lung cancer, which kills the most people out all cancers. And more than pancreatic cancer which has the lowest 5 year survival rate (8% compared to 91% for breast cancer)
/r/MensRights23/09/24 01:59 PM
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A medical academic career explicitly selects for authority pleasers at every stage of the process. They even have a ridiculously wrong ethics tests to see if you’re willing to bend your view of right and wrong to whatever they want
/r/MensRights23/09/24 01:58 PM
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Perhaps a common set of policies that give all women massive (albeit varyingly massive) advantages against men? Peradventure?
/r/MensRights23/09/24 12:35 PM
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But don’t forget rubbing dirt on it is toxic masculinity. You need to pay a therapist to give you drugs that zap your brain into making you feel ok for being exploited constantly
/r/MensRights23/09/24 12:33 PM
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I work with a ton of women and they are all massive occupational hazards. Extremely petty and fragile and they’ve kept at least one contractor I know from getting renewed because he said something they didn’t like
/r/MensRights23/09/24 12:31 PM
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Now the argument is that women were better all along and we just needed to even the playing field (by unevening the playing field……) to see it And of course if we uneven the playing field (by evening it, or god forbid giving men an advantage) we would go right back to the dark ages where men would chain women to the kitchens and kill them if they tried to escape
/r/MensRights23/09/24 12:28 PM
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Now look up “woman killed by man” and “man killed by woman” - exact same effect. Somehow search engines think both times you’re actually looking for stinky evil men killing innocent women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 12:18 PM
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You’re falling for a misdirection. It doesn’t matter if our language is correct and our arguments are right. They’ll just say whatever preserves their status and go right on doing the exact same thing they were before. Feminism is a tangibly rewarding philosophy for them so they will never give it up, at least in action. It doesn’t matter what arguments we make and what our language is, we have to make feminism and female supremacy no longer a rewarding enterprise. In short, you don’t fight the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 12:06 PM
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“Their lingo” is part of the problem. In order to have a constructive discussion with them, you have to learn the terminology they control and agree with the definitions and systems they define. In other words you have to participate in the propaganda systems they created to control the narrative and every discussion they’re in. Why is it our job to learn their hateful and derisive rhetoric? Maybe we should just recognize them for the hate group they are and tell them their mentalities are unacc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 12:01 PM
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Modern feminism is completely detached from their ideals. It’s a hate group that allows girls to make exclusionary clubs and rationalize why they have no responsibility for their issues, which they love doing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 11:58 AM
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Patriarchy is an abstract concept, there is no society (not even Saudi Arabia) that is a true 100% patriarchy. Every culture has patriarchal/matriarchal influences. I think conservative/confucian Asian regions are another example that really do give men a lot more power And often tribes in Africa are semi-patriarchal where only men can be or want to be chiefs/warriors/etc
/r/MensRights21/09/24 05:11 PM
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It’s because they are a hate movement, the emotional feel is the only thing that matters. And for the people that lead the crowd, they love violence towards women (at least through their actions) because it’s what gives them power and relevance. All political movements that achieve their initial goals fall into the same trap where they implicitly encourage what they’re explicitly against
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 06:25 PM
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Feminism is a hate group not a scientific movement, that’s why It’s like the Taliban saying gay people are bad, what do you expect?
/r/MensRights20/09/24 05:21 PM
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I somewhat agree but also in many cases this is quite literally survivor bias
/r/MensRights20/09/24 05:14 PM
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Feminism is about doing maximum damage to men. We need to stop saying these things are “suspicious” or “questionable.” They are a hate group for men… stop expecting them to be civil
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 05:14 PM
1

I guess I’m stuck in one of those circles
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 05:02 PM
2

Loud reminder that women are drastically more likely to fall for greenwashing than men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 04:20 PM
2

Like it or not, we’re in an era of identity politics. The left isn’t for us anymore. Out of all of my liberal friends, it’s been months/years since I’ve heard them say one nice thing about men. It’s always semi-sarcastically saying men are the worst, that we should kill all men, etc. their culture has entirely forgotten how to see us in a positive light. I’m extremely liberal but I refuse to support discrimination of any kind so I don’t know what to do. I just hope someday we relearn to see the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 04:11 PM
2

Yes it absolutely must be done. Feminists demand proof only when they know nobody actually wants to investigate counterpoints to their arguments. No corporation is going to inflame the feminist mafia by compiling lists of bad things women have done to men, that’s something that we as men need to do to defend ourselves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 04:06 PM
1

Plenty of governments at peace are willing to pay lip service to the idea of no draft, which is where the line of thought abruptly stops for feminists. They think we can just pass a bill not to draft people and it would remain popular as our country is being threatened and civilians are dying. When that happens we all know who’s going to be forced to be their bodyguards for absolutely no recognition
/r/MensRights19/09/24 04:02 PM
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I don’t think ambition is the right word (although it’s still true). Plenty of women are ambitious (again not as many as men) but what they really don’t do often is optimize for profit. Women want to be girl bosses with really high status jobs and lifestyles but they don’t really care about saving or planning for retirement. So for example they may want to be physicians and be highly motivated to get the minimum skills needed to get recognition and make enough for a yearly trip to the Bahamas, b…
/r/MensRights16/09/24 08:14 PM
1

Imagine if the same station aired a football game between the NFL and college football. People might tune in for a few minutes for the novelty but nobody is going to stay and watch through the commercials because they immediately know how it’s going to end The only way people would stay is if they heard the college team wins, but it would be incredibly difficult to pick a college team that’s better than the average NFL team
/r/MensRights12/09/24 12:59 PM
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An expected outcome doesn’t generate ratings. Everyone on earth would expect the men to win. By qualified I mean qualified using whatever metrics the producers had in mind. If you wanted women with survival skills, it would trim down your pool by easily 90%, which reduces your chances of getting interesting personalities or whatever else they’re looking for
/r/MensRights10/09/24 05:00 PM
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I think you’re mixing up representative sampling with intentional selection. It’s very unlikely the producers chose men with survival training and women without any just to show men clobbering women. What’s more likely is that the most qualified men who applied had lots of training, and the most qualified women who applied didn’t because survival training in women is drastically less common. So if you want a representative competition (at least as much as you can for a reality tv show) it doesn’…
/r/MensRights10/09/24 04:21 PM
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This is a chance for us to be better than the feminists. Disgusting if true but there’s just no proof. This could easily be made up by a guy that’s pissed from getting fired (for hurting his back which is still wrongful termination) and knows he can get a lucrative paycheck even if it’s unsubstantiated
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:22 PM
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Troll farms have gotten real bad over there and their rec algo under Musk fixates on aggregating you as much as possible
/r/MensRights09/09/24 03:48 PM
3

It’s just a lazy deflection. It’s ok that I’m doing this atrocious thing because at some point a man might have done the same thing to someone else. It’s one of those deflections that people love specifically because of how irrational it is
/r/MensRights09/09/24 03:27 PM
3

And also feminist/liberal groups won’t give you grant funding unless you’re looking at advantages men have over women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 01:38 PM
3

At my company about 70-80% of the financial performance awards go to women who make less than 10% of our workforce. I’ve never seen less than half in a month
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 01:37 PM
2

Social media’s entire purpose is to warp people’s perspectives. It’s not much of a leap to assume that some of the largest companies on earth are actually effective
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 01:34 PM
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The entire issue with “intersectionality” is that it only cares about the intersections of a few narrow traits. It puts people and systems into extremely narrow boxes and places one attribute over another in every scenario. Women are always more oppressed than men, black people are always more oppressed than white, poor people are always more oppressed than rich people. This kind of thinking completely ignores edge cases. If a black/female/poor manager fires a person for no reason other than bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 01:06 PM
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I’ve heard feminists say the reason is really because women are more compassionate so they don’t want to leave a mess for their loved ones. As if the thing their loved ones would be worried about is how much stain remover they’d have to use to clean up the suicide. Somehow with feminists women are always more virtuous in every situation. Crazy coincidence.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 01:01 PM
5

You also don’t hear about men who chose less lethal means because they’re less likely to admit it was a suicide attempt. It makes sense for a woman to admit a failed suicide because she’ll get compassion and empathy for a suicide attempt, but a man will be scorned.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 12:59 PM
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It’s absolutely this. This and the fact that a man won’t admit he was trying to kill himself while a woman’s goal is to announce she was trying to. Suicidal males often feel like even more of a failure if they fail to kill themselves, so if they’re revived there’s no way someone with that mentality will admit it was a suicide attempt. Suddenly it’s just taking too many pills for fun
/r/MensRights09/09/24 12:57 PM
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A good reminder that feminism is actually an asymmetrical hyperconservative movement
/r/MensRights06/09/24 09:05 PM
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I used to be a leftie but it’s felt like since Trump we fell off a cliff and straight up despise white men. It’s honestly really scary. Not even just that it’s happening but that women and minorities won’t give one iota of ground when confronted with the facts that they’ve already won in a variety of goals. It’s really making me think of getting out and moving to South America or somewhere that will treat me fairly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 05:25 PM
1

In part yes but I think powerful men also perpetuate it. If you’re a business owner, lord, or king, you definitely want your workforce to value being productive and malleable (but only through hierarchies that give you an advantage over your population)
/r/MensRights04/09/24 05:40 PM
1

It directly proves my point that society pressures men to embody those attributes by hating on average men for not being useful enough
/r/MensRights04/09/24 04:04 PM
1

Are you implying kings never had wives or any contact with any influential woman? Saying one person had “more” or “less” power is pretty simplistic when you’re talking about influence outside of direct and codified hierarchies. In reality power is an incredibly dynamic property. You only need a momentary advantage to have power over someone whether they’re a king or anyone else
/r/MensRights04/09/24 03:54 PM
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You’re being very small-minded. Who has more power: the king who rules the world or the Queen who gets to tell the king if he wants to sleep with her he has to do what she says. In most of history men had the vast majority of institutional power, but women still exerted control over them in various ways. It’s not like you’re made the king and suddenly nobody has any influence over you. There are still influential actors you need to deal with, and not all of them have simple titles like you do. I…
/r/MensRights03/09/24 10:33 PM
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“Men” didn’t create anything in a vacuum. Power isn’t gendered, people with influence created what they did for their benefit. I’m a man but I had exactly 0 say in how our society operates. What you mean to say is that men aren’t adequately compliant, non-reactive, or productive. You saying that men don’t have enough of these attributes reinforces the point that society pressures men to embody those attributes to avoid being compared to the default “not good enough” men
/r/MensRights03/09/24 10:27 PM
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Because society views men as tools. Our comfortability or emotions don’t matter, we need to be able to stay non reactive, compliant, and productive
/r/MensRights03/09/24 06:04 PM
2

“Men should be instantly ready to risk their lives in a riptide for a complete stranger” (because their lives are only valuable if they are useful to me personally)
/r/MensRights03/09/24 02:39 PM
1

Look at what they have to say about education. “Now that we’ve been given enough advantages, you can see how women are naturally better at school than boys. Instead of helping them like they helped us, let’s continue giving advantages to us at their expense.”
/r/MensRights03/09/24 02:25 PM
1

You took the bait. The open secret they will never admit (even to themselves) is that not a single one of them actually wants equality. The want the benefits of being a women and the benefits of men serving them. It’s addicting. Think of it the other way around: There’s a widely-adopted movement of people who think you need to be given advantages in education, life, and business, and anytime you support it all of your friends like you more. And if anyone criticized you, you get to immediately sh…
/r/MensRights03/09/24 02:20 PM
1

The patriarchy is just everything that men do well. So as long as you want men to be healthy, happy, and “””unequal””” to women, you are supporting their vision of the patriarchy. Look at how they’re handling education. For decades they said women need to be given a leg up to perform as well as men and now that they’re performing better, they say it’s because they are naturally better and that we should keep giving them advantages because men don’t deserve to be educated. Even when we’re doing w…
/r/MensRights03/09/24 02:15 PM
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Wait until you see how people like my ultra-liberal ex will react while walking around places like downtown Cleveland. It’s there, they’re just too socially compliant to bring it up directly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 02:12 PM
1

I truly don’t mean this as an insult but I think the only way you could have missed this level of sarcasm is if you are on the spectrum In the case you are, the people that tell you homemaking is just as hard as working don’t really think that, they just say because it helps their movement. It’s pure sophistry. I challenge you to dig deeper on this subject. What exactly about getting to stay at home, cook, and care for your own children is harder than selling your body and soul to thanklessly pr…
/r/MensRights03/09/24 01:59 PM
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He deserves it too. Being a homemaker is unpaid slavery that’s easily 5 times harder than being a high performing accountant
/r/MensRights26/08/24 10:20 PM
3

I’ve never met a feminist that doesn’t have continent-sized blind spots that they will refuse to engage with. Even the men. For a lot of women “facts” are just things that an authority figure has told them. Their entire sense of truth revolves around popularity and conformity
/r/MensRights26/08/24 10:09 PM
15

Do you believe in equality? Then you’re a men’s rights activist
/r/MensRights26/08/24 10:07 PM
21

You don’t strike me as a fairly reasonable feminist so you’re kinda proving our point
/r/MensRights26/08/24 10:06 PM
11

Most men need to know how to pretend to be feminist around women, so I could see how men who are very conformist/white knights wouldn’t realize how unpopular they really are
/r/MensRights26/08/24 10:05 PM
5

It’s disgusting how normalized/trendy it’s become to say kill all white people/kill all men
/r/MensRights25/08/24 03:43 PM
5

Throwback to the woman who wrote the scum manifesto which was a call to action to kill/enslave all men. A massive feminist society can be quoted calling her “a champion of women’s rights” Then she shot a man. Who would have thought? My favorite thing about this is when you tell feminists about how awful she was, they’ll say she isn’t as bad because she only tried to kill a man, but really only injured him
/r/MensRights25/08/24 03:41 PM
2

If you use the extremely loose definitions for SA that feminists use, I could easily be convinced that men are “SAed” more than women. I can’t count the number of times women have slapped my ass, hugged me and felt me up, grabbed my dick, tried kissing me, etc in public by relative strangers. And I’ve been slapped for not having sex with some of my exes a handful of times. If I did that once I’d be locked up for a decade. Women “SA” more than men, we just don’t report it because it’s a cost of b…
/r/MensRights25/08/24 03:37 PM
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Nothing more misogynistic than making policies that assume women aren’t capable of beating men in the academic or job markets without help
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 03:29 PM
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Even they’re starting to lose a lot of their quality. They don’t adjust searches based on your data, but they do still have a pagerank-like system that lets companies and political groups control what information is allowed to be shown to the public
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 03:28 PM
23

Now look up “man killed by woman” and you’ll see the exact same thing There is no war in ba sing se
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/24 03:26 PM
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Or even worse they say they love it when men show emotions and then hide their disgust when it actually happens. I’ve spent over 20 years on this rock and I still haven’t met a girl that’s interested in the not hypermasculine version of me I have to be around them
/r/MensRights23/08/24 06:16 PM
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This would be greatly beneficial, but you can never fully eliminate the bias. The Pygmalion effect says that female teachers will always do more to help their female students succeed because they believe females are more deserving of help
/r/MensRights23/08/24 05:22 PM
2

Something weird I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older is that practically every woman I know loves cruelty. It’s almost like they support unfairness just because they find it amusing
/r/MensRights22/08/24 08:20 PM
1

We can be feminists, as long as we supplicate ourselves and recognize our place in this world is to serve our true oppressed overlords who are always in the right about everything since the Dawn of time
/r/MensRights22/08/24 08:18 PM
5

I use a very feminine nickname when applying to jobs. I feel like a traitor but it’s hard out there right now
/r/MensRights22/08/24 08:15 PM
3

Political movements are at their most powerful when let’s its followers exert power over others, and when it feels infuriating to be a victim of. People use virality hacking in the context of social media all the time but it’s exactly the same for real-world culture too
/r/MensRights22/08/24 08:12 PM
3

Even this isn’t a perfect comparison given that women typically choose jobs based on status and comfort instead of their ability to provide for their families. Your wife is going to want to do something that makes her feel good and accomplished, and DEI will make sure she gets a leg up in hiring and can’t be fired. And of course she’s only earning 70% of what a profit-seeking spouse would, and she has the psychological comfort of knowing that if anything happened to her, you’d get a job in a hea…
/r/MensRights22/08/24 07:05 PM
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Loneliness on both sides is a very intentional outcome of our current culture. When you’re lonely it’s easier to harness people’s bitterness to get votes. Lonely feminists hate men and vote for feminist politicians that further isolate people based on gender Lonely people are also more reliant on consumerism and more vulnerable to branding. You know what will soothe your pain and make you part of an in-group that will accept you? Whatever we’re selling
/r/MensRights22/08/24 06:28 PM
1

Honestly that’s one of the values I think more people need. Tricking nearly all women into working during the right to work era is one of the largest causes of lowering wages in modern history. Women should have the right to work, but if all of them decide to work even when there’s already a provider, they lose the right to not work. Nowadays the average household must work 80 hrs/week and still has the same amount of household management. I’d be perfectly fine still doing 40 if it meant my wife…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 03:43 PM
3

This is spot on. The issue isn’t any particular value so much as it’s that for some reason our society has evolved to let women selectively apply their values as much as they want
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 09:30 PM
2

I think of it like how Spain invaded America and built churches. They invaded a place and spread diseases causing incalculable damage, and then co-opted the local beliefs in order to solidify their power and make it look like they were the good guys. Feminist thought leaders want power, and so by extent the organizations and beliefs they control want to concentrate power to those leaders. The point of men’s advocacy from a feminist perspective is to do just enough to solidify feminist perspectiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/24 01:25 AM
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I think it’s nice to have different perspectives not different skin tones. These DEI policies don’t hire people who think differently, they hire people that are just as conformist but look different while they conform.
/r/MensRights25/07/24 01:58 AM
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This is exactly what I’m saying when I say the world wants diversity of race and gender but not experience. You support “diversity” when it comes to gender and skin color, but as soon as you see someone that’s had an atypical upbringing, your first thought is to suggest I get myself reprogrammed to be more normal. When someone is marginalized because of their race, the system must be warped to cater to them. When someone is marginalized but they’re white, they must be changed to fit the system. …
/r/MensRights25/07/24 01:23 AM
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So I can participate in another system designed to make me guilty for being who I am? No thank you
/r/MensRights25/07/24 01:13 AM
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I grew up in a religious cult and didn’t learn how to read until I was 10. Most people who learn that late don’t even graduate highschool. But that doesn’t count as diversity because this world doesn’t care about diversity of experience - they care about diversity of physical appearance. I was penalized when I applied to college because my family wouldn’t let me write essays in the liberal tone that gets you accepted to most universities. I wasn’t even allowed to apply to schools that mentioned …
/r/MensRights25/07/24 01:09 AM
1

Don’t forget the classic feminist deflection: Men (and nobody else) built the systems that exploit men and favor women, so we all deserve it
/r/MensRights25/07/24 12:48 AM
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You’re right. I should just accept my place at the bottom of the racial-gender caste. Despite being a more effective and knowledgeable worker, we deserve less because we lack the divine authority to be paid no matter how much of a liability we are
/r/MensRights25/07/24 12:42 AM
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Basically all of engineering is like this now. Tons of these Fortune 500s basically only hire for DEI initiatives and contract out all the real work to firms that hire predominantly men. So now I do more work than my female colleagues but I’m paid less and have fewer benefits, and my job is less reputable. Plus it actually costs the company more since they’re buying me instead of giving me a salary. DEI is a disease. I deeply resent it because it’s gotten to the point that stereotypes are becomi…
/r/MensRights25/07/24 12:36 AM
1

Google “women killed by men” and you’ll find thousands of slam pieces about how awful and dangerous men are Google “men killed by women” and you’ll find….. thousands of slam pieces about how awful and dangerous men are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 12:10 AM
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For me it’s caused by the vicious cycle of books being written for women. All of my language arts classes had very feminine perspectives on writing, so I’m only aware of classics that women like. It was only on my own years after college that I found authors like Herman Melville, Ernest Hemingway, etc. but still even after finding books I liked, there’s nobody like me that wants to discuss books. And classics aside, I don’t think I’ve ever seen in a book written in the last 15 years that didn’t …
/r/MensRights25/07/24 12:07 AM
1

I think therapy is amazing if you’re on the brink of a crisis or have seriously debilitating mental illnesses. But if you’re just (logically) sad because your dad beat you as a kid, the marginal return is pretty small. But also, since women make up the vast majority of who therapists talk to, therapy has evolved alongside them to be effective for curing women’s issues. I have a strong belief that men don’t really need to talk it out the same way women do, until women and media say it’s unhealthy…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 05:17 AM
3

Or if you’re the first to be let go because it’s impossible to sue for wrongful termination
/r/MensRights16/07/24 05:11 AM
1

I wish it weren’t the case but there’s no such thing as a country that won’t draft its citizens when it needs to. Every time they get rid of the draft it’s just a bluff
/r/MensRights12/07/24 07:48 PM
1

It’s also really great for the ruling class to have a working female population. It means you 2x your workforce (and cut in half their wages) and also because men must outperform their spouses to have a functional relationship, it pushes most men to work even harder. And a population of dual working families can’t rise up and is much more busy/complacent. Plus good ole division is good for consumerism. Sad and lonely people need to buy things. If you have a happy relationship with your husband/w…
/r/MensRights12/07/24 07:34 PM
7

In my experience with feminism life imitates silicon very accurately. Almost all my female friends fall into that category of people who casually support feminism because it’s popular and benefits them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 05:26 PM
5

But sadly they still support the main arm of feminism which attempts to dominate men. It’s like the issues with the free Palestine movement. It’s very difficult to support Palestinian civilians without also implicitly supporting Hamas and their subjugation of women. Although in that case the civilians are the majority
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 05:18 PM
2

Good to hear, I think. I blocked r/comics - looooong time ago
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 05:14 PM
1

Didn’t surprise me at all, but some people need a PhD to do their thinking for them
/r/MensRights10/07/24 05:56 PM
5

I can hear it now “men and the patriarchy built the AIs that discriminate against men so actually it’s your fault specifically”
/r/MensRights10/07/24 12:19 AM
4

I use it all the time because I simply can’t write brainrot as well as it can. If you’re doing anything for school, recruiting, etc. it’s incredibly useful
/r/MensRights10/07/24 12:19 AM
2

Now we have a links when people try to drown us in justification requests
/r/MensRights10/07/24 12:17 AM
2

Yeah but you need links like this for the schizos that demand journals do their critical thinking for them
/r/MensRights10/07/24 12:17 AM
4

AI learns from online data but OpenAI especially values “safety and alignment” so they ensure it is unusably PC
/r/MensRights10/07/24 12:15 AM
7

The replication crisis strikes again. Social science isn’t science anymore, and arguably never was. The bar to entry is so low that any opinion can get through
/r/MensRights09/07/24 02:04 PM
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Women don’t live in reality. Just do what we all do and say the things they need to hear, and laugh at them once they’re gone. Women will always be louder and more insane, so we just have to distance ourselves from the environments and systems that enable them.
/r/MensRights01/07/24 08:43 PM
3

That’s why they call it “gender studies” They’re studying how women are the greatest and most oppressed and men are the worst and most tyrannical. They’re only trying to find the truth, just look at all the evidence they found that aligns with their ideology and funding!
/r/MensRights01/07/24 03:15 PM
2

“I don’t feel appreciated” often just means “I’m upset about something completely unrelated to you and taking it out on you because it feels good”
/r/MensRights01/07/24 03:09 PM
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Don’t forget tax cuts for the rich. In the US we get to choose between the party that loves execs and the party that loves women. The best case scenario for men is to be left alone which is why I’m looking for someone that actually wants to improve our lives
/r/MensRights01/07/24 03:57 AM
0

Honestly been considering him. He seems to care about bitcoin slightly which I find interesting
/r/MensRights01/07/24 02:48 AM
3

I don’t care how far down the ladder of popularity I have to go. I’d vote for Deez Nuts if his main platform is men’s rights
/r/MensRights01/07/24 01:22 AM
-9

True, but he’s also a criminal and is attempting to undermine democracy. I like men’s rights but I have limits. I’m looking for someone that supports men but also isn’t a monomaniacal lunatic.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 11:57 PM
5

It’s the only option I got. The other parties actively go against my interest so why would I support the status quo?
/r/MensRights30/06/24 11:55 PM
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I hate that I have to explain this but basically the way politicians decide on the policies they favor is by looking at voter behavior. Even if Billy the anarchist doesn’t get elected, if he gets ten million votes, both sides know that there’s ten million people who agree with those policies. Therefore they’ll deprioritize other objectives to pick up these new voters. Or at the very least they won’t actively attack those policies out of fear of driving those voters to their real opponent. So bas…
/r/MensRights30/06/24 11:53 PM
0

You got me there
/r/MensRights30/06/24 11:44 PM
2

It’s doublethink at its finest. We want equality except when it doesn’t benefit us. Men can’t understand women because we have fundamentally different experiences but also feminists know everything about men because we’re smarter. We demand proof except when the proof doesn’t agree with us, then it’s misinformation.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 09:23 PM
1

It’s a hard thing to quantify, it’s not like a woman is going to explicitly say “I killed that man because I hate all men.” And furthermore it’s not like gender-studies researchers are rolling in grant money to study flaws in women. It’s an argument feminists make a lot to say that misogynists are violent but misandrists aren’t. The media and academia love to create stories of how pathological misogynists kill but completely ignore violence from women, so therefore to them and their backwards “e…
/r/MensRights30/06/24 08:10 PM
1

And above all that it’s much harder to convict a poor innocent woman
/r/MensRights30/06/24 07:36 PM
1

Don’t forget she was once called a “hero of women’s rights” a few years before that.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 07:35 PM
1

Well no, misogyny is definitely a real thing. Just not what most people think misogyny is. For instance a lot of (caught) serial killer have traumatic experiences from an individual woman (usually mother or romantic figure, and ironically usually very feminist) that causes them to see all women in a very misogynistic way. However that makes up an incredibly small fraction of women’s deaths, so it’s not really the type of behavior to build an entire ethos about fearing. It’s the exact same argume…
/r/MensRights30/06/24 07:33 PM
2

Remind them of how widely lauded the SCUM manifesto was, and how its author was regarded as a “hero of women’s rights” until she tried to kill a man. Anyone can believe anything they want, but if they choose to believe one type of bigotry is more justifiable than another, they’re a bigot.
/r/MensRights30/06/24 07:26 PM
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It’s just the adult version of “boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider” Some people, especially feminists for whatever reason, revel in getting under peoples’ skin. The irrationality of it just makes it even more funny to them Deep down they know what they’re saying isn’t what they really think, but they just can’t resist an opportunity for melodrama
/r/MensRights30/06/24 06:19 PM
8

Men die younger than women practically everywhere on earth. That’s all you need to know
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/24 02:08 AM
4

My parents thought the same way but it put me at a severe disadvantage. Your kids need to instinctively know how to navigate a hostile world. Sheltering them only makes it easier for them to be manipulated
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:41 PM
1

Step 1. Collect data Step 2. Come up with an ass-backwards idea that will get you lots of attention Step 3. Figure out how to write a discussion section that links your or existing data and observations to your idea
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:40 PM
1

Statistically 86 people is actually fairly large. The issue is that it isn’t a representative sample. It’s very likely the 86 people who know the researchers and know how to answer questions the way they want to
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:37 PM
1

It’s Harvard what do you expect? The more below-average they act the more it becomes a status symbol to accept their lunacy.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:35 PM
1

If that were the case Russia would have the best psychologists in the world. It’s not capitalism, it’s just researcher bias and flaws intrinsic to the fields. Humans are incredibly difficult to research so pretending they aren’t and everything has a simple digestible explanation will always backfire. The issue is that researchers, like all people, have egos and have to make a living.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:26 PM
1

It’s just typical women being dumb. It transcends rationality, I’ve completely given up on trying to find a logical explanation for a lot of their behavior.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:23 PM
1

Yeah that’s absolutely absurd. Another example of why any opinionated survey isn’t really science. What do you expect someone to say when a stranger asks them why you failed to kill themselves? Admit that it was mostly a subconscious ploy for attention, or come up with a heroic narrative for why you didn’t want to hurt your poor family? In other news 10/10 factory workers admit they work harder when researchers turn the temperature up, but also admit they work harder when researchers turn the te…
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:18 PM
1

If women are dying in droves from bad diagnoses why is the male expected lifespan shorter? I hate this new online trend of asking for evidence of things that are blatantly obvious. Ask a man, any man, if he has been pressured to not go to a hospital. The only answer is yes or a lie. There is no study that disproves an entire lifetime of observation interacting with every male I’ve met.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 07:13 PM
9

Homeschooling only makes it worse. Men need to have institutional credentials to go anywhere and they need to know how to navigate a work that wants to crush them. People won’t take risks on men anymore when there are women who could boost DEI stats.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 06:59 PM
5

I completely agree. Feminism has been completely captured by businesses marketting to women. The all-consuming message of popular feminism is that woman oriented consumerism is awesome and empowering, and everything else is horrible cro-magnon tyranny
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/24 06:51 PM
3

Have you seen how much college-aged women steal? They don’t commit less crime, they just aren’t taken as seriously. Additionally, women don’t have to be providers nearly so there’s much less impotus to commit more serious/financially motivated crimes. And lastly girls typically aren’t allowed in organized crime, so there’s that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/24 01:28 PM
1

I was formerly suicidal a long time ago and I ask myself that sometimes. My personal theory is men have such a deeply ingrained shame of showing weakness and/or being a burden that it feels more painful to kill yourself and let whatever is tormenting you “win” than to just put up with the turmoil. Which is why I think men’s rates of success are higher. Women don’t have those same social standards. And for men the only thing more embarrassing than attempting suicide is failing.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 03:19 AM
3

I recognize you have to do it sometimes but I hate that behavior. If you can’t handle grown up words don’t have grown up discussions.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 03:14 AM
1

I’m hesitant but if you really think so I’ll have to give it a look. I suppose feminism is just too broad. There’s definitely a lot of theory and philosophy but the vast majority of people that identify as feminists just want a cudgel to beat people with and twist anything truthful to fit some agenda.
/r/MensRights13/06/24 09:00 PM
4

I think the difference is feminism uses that power-based perspective as a weapon to attack their opponents, and universally ignores any Power dynamics created by feminists. They’re sophists, not philosophers
/r/MensRights13/06/24 07:52 PM
10

Philosophy is actually one of the best paying majors since it’s a path to law school
/r/MensRights13/06/24 07:47 PM
8

Neither, but Trumps advertised ideology aligns with men’s rights. If we vote him in it sends a strong message that misandry has gone way too far. And it has. I acknowledge Trump is corrupt as it gets but at least he isn’t actively aligned against me.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 02:34 AM
13

Exact same thing has happened to me too. I got flamed for saying girls instead of women and half their responses called me a guy lol
/r/MensRights10/06/24 08:12 PM
50

What is more misandrist than creating a fully fledged legal system to enforce the idea that men must die to protect women?
/r/MensRights10/06/24 07:57 PM
-4

It was sarcastic but the fact you can’t tell is incredibly sad
/r/MensRights10/06/24 07:56 PM
2

The main concept that there is a massive divide between what women say that want and what they really want is absolutely true. Many redpillers push it a little too far though. If you try too hard to be a alpha sigma male it backfires harder than if you just didn’t apply those concepts at all And yes it absolutely helps men’s mental health because it explains to some men why they don’t get the attention of women even when they’ve done absolutely everything women asked for. They went to therapy, k…
/r/MensRights10/06/24 07:50 PM
-6

Men are in the ruling class that sends soldiers to die so all men deserve to die in war
/r/MensRights10/06/24 07:48 PM
46

alimony is a regressive tax on men. They don’t care that you’re supporting your child, they just want to make a killing off the taxable payments.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 07:13 PM
3

All tech companies are horrifyingly misandrist. YouTube is owned by Google which likes to pretend that men are literally demons. Here’s another one for you: Google “woman killed by man” - you’ll see hundreds of news articles about women killed by men. Now Google “man killed by woman” - you’ll still see hundreds of news articles about women killed by men.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 02:17 AM
7

It’s what happens when you tell all boys from the moment that they’re born that they aren’t as emotionally intelligent as women. It fosters a mentality that distrusts and distances themselves from all authority figures. Then the only way to control them is to humiliate them. Not to mention the stereotype that men must be emotionally resilient over everything else. You can yell at men because they can take it, but you have to put the kiddie gloves on for women or they’ll break down crying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 02:13 AM
5

Lol love that she’s implying that she would pick a man that’s educated and wealthy over one that she gets along with. Absolute gold digger mentality.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 02:05 AM
3

It’s crazy because one of the key arguing points of feminism is that men are incapable of understanding women, so we just have to trust that their perspective of justice is automatically superior. Then they turn around and assume they know everything about men. Zero self-awareness.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 01:25 AM
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Then the hospital lobbies the government to make it 10x more expensive and leaves the citizens with the inflation. Jfc can we be adults here for one second? Making the government pay for something doesn’t mean it’s free, it means you either get taxed for it or your currency gets inflated to cover it. If you give the healthcare system the ability to force you to do something, you can be absolutely certain they’ll find a way to make money with it. And lastly I’m not even remotely libertarian lmao.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 06:12 AM
1

Lol it’s a classic case of women not understanding themselves. They all love dominance, or at least nearly all of them do. The only thing they love more is social conformity so they can’t admit they like it, even to themselves. But in the end any marker are male dominance will make you more attractive to essentially any woman.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 11:15 PM
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No but only for financial reasons. Give a hospital a mandatory test and they’ll find a way to make it in exorbitantly expensive. What are you gonna do if you don’t want to pay, put the baby back in?
/r/MensRights08/06/24 11:12 PM
1

So then Hitler’s wasn’t a socialist, but the nazis thought they were socialists. If you think you’re a socialist, you’re a socialist. You must know there is a very different ideology between the people that believed Hitler and Hitler’s himself right? Lots of things have hard line definitions that have nothing to do with the their practical implications. Feminists say they want equality and advocate for gendered tyranny. Republicans say they care about the economy and turn around and shoot the ec…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 10:43 PM
4

It’s about equity not equality. Go eat a tub of ice cream or you’re misogynistic.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 10:26 PM
1

Most people at the time thought they were socialist. I’m not pushing any narrative. They believed they were socialists so they were partially socialist. We just labeled them as fascists after the fact because we don’t like them. Nobody ever identifies as a fascist hahaha. If Germany had won, that’s what socialism would have been. It’s only after they lost that the “real” version of socialism became prevalent since it intentionally cut out the nazi-adjacent parts of its ideology.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 10:18 PM
0

Well we don’t call the US a plutocracy, we call it what most people think it is and what it’s rulers say it is - a democracy. The nazis believed they were socialists and much of Hitler’s early rhetoric featured a twisted version of socialism. That means they were socialists. Most nazis didn’t believe they were fascists, we assigned them that ideology after the fact. So actually nazi is a very fitting description for feminists lol. They think they’re being progressive but in all actuality they’re…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 10:11 PM
1

Yeah that definitely makes sense. And I fully agree, policing men’s emotions is at least half the problem. I’m just saying the other half is the subconscious notion that feminine emotional processes are healthier.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 09:53 PM
2

That’s very true, but I think that’s also sort of the same thing, basically the other side of the same coin. And I know you didn’t say women are inherently more in touch than men, you also seem to believe the typical feminine way of being in touch with your emotions is better. The people who say men are stupid sex-mongers create stereotypes like that out of confusion. They don’t understand how people unlike themselves operate so they create straw-men, then manipulate men to think their only opti…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 08:16 PM
1

Every ideology has narcissists that use it as a cudgel to get what they want. Yes even men’s rights. Narcissism is incredibly common in women though so I’d assume feminism has a larger fraction just because it’s composed of mostly women.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 07:15 PM
4

Most people take it out of context And men aren’t emotionally crippled. We should stop defining what emotional intelligence is only in terms of how a woman should think. There is nothing inherent about women’s emotional maturity that makes it “more mature” than men’s emotional maturity.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 07:06 PM
0

There are legitimate differences between genders. Women do have better immune systems just like we are naturally more athletic. And women do start puberty before men on average, that doesn’t make them more mentally mature, but their bodies do begin that stage of life before we do, although typically for less time. All in terms of averages of course. But I agree with you in terms of things like “emotional intelligence.” People don’t realize this but it’s a case where emotional intelligence has be…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 06:59 PM
6

Nazis were socialists which is mainly inspired by Marxism so…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 04:05 AM
-5

The only similarity between feminism and Marxism is that it separates the world into a powerful group and an un powerful group. You could say the same thing about Star Wars. If anything feminism in the western world is incredibly supportive of private industry and existing capitalist ideologies, as long as a woman is the one benefiting instead of a man.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 04:03 AM
2

My girlfriend circumvents feeling guilty by paying for me to get things she wants. I’ll pay for the dinner she wants and then she’ll pay to get coffee at the coffee shop she wants to go to. Then at the end of the month she’s broke and I have to pay for groceries again. But wow at least I got a $10 cup of coffee I could make at home in 2 minutes
/r/MensRights07/06/24 09:33 PM
2

This isn’t anything new, this is a possibility for any ethical movement (yes even men’s rights.) Narcissists will engage with any moral framework to satisfy their grandiose tendencies. The real findings would be quantifying how often that tendency is found amongst feminists compared to the norm.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 07:12 PM
6

It makes no sense to me. It’s like they want to spend money and need just enough social justification to make it acceptable to spend as much as possible.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 03:11 AM
1

My least favorite thing of all time is women that always do exactly the thing that gets them the most sympathy. If that guy was convicted again tomorrow I’m sure she’d disown him all over again in a heartbeat. Zero lessons were learned
/r/MensRights06/06/24 10:48 PM
4

I’ve noticed a very noticeable correlation between how feminist my partners have been and how likely they are to say something like “boys just want to have sex all the time” They hate objectifying women but their entire ideology centers around stereotyping and objectifying men
/r/MensRights06/06/24 10:44 PM
2

Well yeah any time there’s a cultural movement that gives you a solid defense for walking all over people, you’re going to love it. As soon as most men cave and give women what they want, it becomes the norm and new rules are invented to keep taking
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/24 09:07 PM
2

My ex was making $50/hr online before we started dating and she wasn’t top 0.1% hot. It’s extremely attainable. I’m not sure how many hours she was putting in but for the time you put in it’s extremely profitable.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:58 PM
1

Well remember that most of them are like 18 years old and still think joining the military is going to be just like call of duty and top gun And the recruiters definitely won’t lift a finger to dispel that belief lol
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:55 PM
40

Greenwashing and feminism washing work far more effectively on women. I see it a lot in consumerism. It seems really easy to convince women that buying certain things is “good.” Like my girlfriend likes to convince me to go out of my way to buy coffee from a store she likes “to support small business” Like dude, I’m so much smaller than them they should be supporting me!
/r/MensRights06/06/24 06:44 PM
5

This. Masculine culture is not unintelligent. The stereotype that the way women express themselves is “correct” for everyone needs to stop
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/24 06:40 PM
3

The smart ones own up to it. We were far too un-disposable earlier so equity demands that men become worth less so that women can be worth more by comparison
/r/MensRights24/05/24 08:42 PM
24

The part you highlighted is exactly why many men want to detach themselves from a society that has been corrupted by feminism. It isn’t misogynistic, we’ve just collectively decided we aren’t going to be oppressed anymore. If we can’t change society to respect us, we’ll just leave
/r/MensRights16/05/24 06:57 PM
2

The core issue is that social media thrives on engagement, and fomenting rage is a very powerful way to increase screen time. Social media is designed to convince women (and me ) to be the worst, most hateful version of themselves. If you want to counter these horrendous trends the best thing you can do is convince people around you to put their phones down and do something meaningful with their time
/r/MensRights15/05/24 09:42 PM
5

Yeah that’s totally fair. I just want whatever costs less
/r/MensRights14/05/24 08:41 PM
1

The issue for the past few decades is that non-deviant behavior is defined as feminine. It’s a circular definition that protects women from any kind of wrongdoing. Women are amazing and socially graceful because the way women act is defined as socially graceful. Men are barbaric because the way men act is defined as barbaric. There’s no winning. Just stop putting up with illusions.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 08:33 PM
1

Then when you point that out they pull a total 180 and say you’re misogynist for perfectly rephrasing what they just said in a way that makes them feel bad
/r/MensRights14/05/24 08:32 PM
1

Being rude and spewing propaganda is only ok if you agree with the administration.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 08:30 PM
11

This is an inequality I’m totally ok with. I have no desire to spend a lot of money on a complex wardrobe On one hand, I totally get that people should be allowed to dress however they want. But from a greedy perspective I realize that would mean people would expect us to dress more extravagantly.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 08:24 PM
1

Can’t wait for 2025 when that miraculously falls apart But hey if it sticks good for them
/r/MensRights13/05/24 06:43 PM
1

I don’t think the husband is guilty of murder per se but he’s definitely guilty of something. It seems like he was fully in favor of killing the kid. If the wife is telling the truth that is.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 11:33 PM
2

Engineering has status so DEI initiatives are ruining the field. If you’re a man, or worse a white man, it’s much more risky. You’ll never get recognition and you’ll be the first to get let go, if you even get past HR and secure a job If you pay attention it’s as clear as night and day. Occasionally you’ll see a really sharp female engineer, but oftentimes they’re more of a hazard to work around. All that neurosis and the false confidence of a degree is a terrible combination.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 11:25 PM
26

“The patriarchy” is just a frame of reference for looking at power dynamics. Some people like calling it that, some people call it “capitalism” or “the will to power” So yes and no. You can view any society through a patriarchal or matriarchal lens. Many of the things feminists say about the patriarchy are often true, but the trick is that they have outlawed discussion of a matriarchal lens to see how women influence power dynamics. But currently for most people, women have vastly more power tha…
/r/MensRights10/05/24 10:25 PM
2

Yeah this is absolutely true. I used to be in student government in college and it was a cesspool of extreme misandrist ideologies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 09:24 PM
4

I think this applies to most normal/slightly radical feminists, but not fully radicalized ones. They typically have been traumatized by men and want to punish the entire gender as revenge. It’s less of an inferiority complex and more of a pathological phobia.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 09:22 PM
3

But only the bad parts of society. All the parts of society that feminists want are conveniently not patriarchal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 09:18 PM
1

Ah I see you’ve also found the infamous feminist conversation ending maneuver
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 09:16 PM
0

I have no problem with the first 3 waves. They’re the ones that just want the right to vote and work 4th and maybe 3rd wave feminists are the ones that increasingly seek entitlement and selectively enforce their beliefs in order to oppress men
/r/MensRights10/05/24 09:13 PM
1

What do you mean? Are you not on the hive mind distribution list for males that all mutually work together to oppress women?
/r/MensRights10/05/24 06:03 PM
1

You don’t get it. Not being forced to work is literally slavery. That’s why women need to work. When all women and men are working twice as hard just to stay afloat and still have to do just as much unpaid labor, that’s true freedom.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 05:59 PM
2

Much simpler definition: positive masculinity is when men do something you like. Toxic masculinity is when men do something you don’t like
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 05:53 PM
85

And then they’ll turn around and criticize the “all lives matter” countermovement and pretend they have no idea what most people that support it actually think. Zero self-awareness. It’s just greed disguised as righteousness.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 05:22 PM
1

Didn’t mean to imply that at all. Like I said its just basic marketting, every product ever aims to covertly irritate people so they need more of the solution they’re selling.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 04:15 PM
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It’s marketting 101. Inflame the issue then sell the cure. Most software is explicitly made to be habit forming so the most direct route would be to design part of the system to make users feel unloved by the real world so that they participate more heavily in your main product. I’m certain many of these AI girlfriend applications will intentionally lean into the commodification of love to distance their users from regular people.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 03:03 PM
43

For me it’s mostly my job. I’m an engineer which used to be a stable and well paying career, but the women in stem movement has completely overhauled everything about engineering. If you’re a man it’s incredibly hard to get competitive jobs, and very risky because you’ll take all the blame if a project goes wrong, and you’ll be the first to get fired when it’s time to cut budgets. And in addition to that all the positives are stripped. Increasingly men can only find jobs as contractors since big…
/r/MensRights09/05/24 11:43 PM
2

What exactly do they say that’s so horrible?
/r/MensRights09/05/24 10:51 PM
19

We have to stop validating that feminism is anything other than a hate group against men. All the other justifications they come up with are secondary to their main goal of oppressing men and justifying it with victimhood
/r/MensRights09/05/24 10:48 PM
17

Honestly very smart. It’s incredibly hard to get a job as a man in STEM these days, and you’re also always the first one they let go. Engineering used to be considered a stable career but its changed drastically sense then
/r/MensRights09/05/24 06:18 PM
38

Basically every competitive job these days gives massive advantages to women, so most of them. I’m an engineer and work in a facility of mostly women. There’s a stark difference in quality between the men and women. I encourage younger engineers to avoid women on their projects because they’ll inadvertently sabotage your projects and leave you with all the blame. Or even if you deliver on time they’ll get all the recognition. The company also contracts out most of the actual work so it’s 100% ju…
/r/MensRights09/05/24 05:27 PM
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Because deep down they know they didn’t earn their degree or career. It’s tragic how much respect I’ve lost for all the women around me. It’s crystal clear that if they were as qualified as me, they’d be my boss or higher.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 01:37 PM
9

Exactly. And this is precisely what many powerful feminists want. They want people burning down villages so they can justify their militant beliefs to the public
/r/MensRights08/05/24 05:42 PM
1

It’s not all women, but it’s certainly every single one I’ve ever met, with few exceptions
/r/MensRights08/05/24 12:53 PM
86

I brought this up an got reported lol. Online self-awareness has dropped to zero
/r/MensRights08/05/24 03:47 AM
3

Well maybe I’m exaggerating. The artists I grew up listening to are still making good music, but anyone coming up the past 4 or so years have wildly different styles than what I like
/r/MensRights08/05/24 03:40 AM
2

Yeah I know what you mean. When things get turned around it’s going to slingshot back really hard. It’s the exact same revenge seeking mentality that’s leading to women overstepping their bounds right now. Everyone just wants to fight fire with fire without any thoughts about the consequences
/r/MensRights08/05/24 02:45 AM
2

I’m extremely worried about my industry. It’s always been pretty equal but the past few years DEI has gone into hyperdrive. It’s so hard to get a job as a man these days and I’m starting to think a lot of companies simply don’t hire men anymore. And then it devalues how hard we work because women think anyone can just wake up and make as much money as we do on a whim, even though men have dedicated our entire lives to being providers. It’s so demoralizing. Women still expect us to make all the m…
/r/MensRights08/05/24 01:41 AM
1

Google is no longer a reliable source for anything
/r/MensRights08/05/24 01:35 AM
1

People are pleading guilty
/r/MensRights08/05/24 01:17 AM
1

This is true. But not to diminish how awful it is for men who are harassed, this is one category I’ll admit women typically have it much worse. Both sides need to do a lot better.
/r/MensRights08/05/24 01:06 AM
1

The pygmalion effect is a tragically real thing. If you care about men’s rights look it up and learn how it works, and start treating your fellow men better.
/r/MensRights08/05/24 01:04 AM
1

When companies only hire women and only fire men, what kind of conclusion are you supposed to draw?
/r/MensRights08/05/24 12:49 AM
1

Not even an exaggeration. This is exactly what happened to me when I was kid off at my last job
/r/MensRights08/05/24 12:22 AM
2

Remember they’re going to lay you off first too. Keep track of this stuff. Happened to me at my last job too. My department was about 10% men, and only men were let go when the time came. Honestly it makes me want to go back to school and get out of bio entirely. It’s terrifying how much the odds are stacked against us these days
/r/MensRights08/05/24 12:21 AM
1

Does is the key word. You have to notice that every feminist immediately tries to make conversations about what feminism stands for which is always somehow extremely out of alignment with what they get accomplished. Lots of feminists think they’re fighting for “equality” but the only things feminism does is give rights to women and take them away from men. It’s a horrendously oppressive belief system and it’s become basically unchecked in most of the western world
/r/MensRights08/05/24 12:14 AM
1

Deep down, everyone in our society wants the girls to win. The girls know this and they’ll take advantage of it every single opportunity they get. This is why you all of these “progressive” policies make gender divides even worse. If you’re a smart man you have to distance yourself from women as much as possible in your career because they’ll suck up all the accolades, and shit out all the consequences right onto you. So as men it’s our job to fight back against oppressive systems. Women are wal…
/r/MensRights08/05/24 12:07 AM
2

It’s not a plan, but the people at the top of any political group always have the same goals in mind. It isn’t a coordinated thing but the effect each leader has all slowly move in the same direction.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:50 PM
1

lol that’s exactly what they want. Political leaders don’t get election donations once their issues are solved. They get donations once their problems get worse. It’s gender warfare. Feminists want to incite violence against women so leaders in the field can gain power.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:48 PM
14

This is why I don’t really listen to rap anymore. The one safe space I still had has been taken over and turned into a pop culture facsimile
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:43 PM
42

It’s intentional. Lost men are easier to control
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:42 PM
17

If this works I’m going to build a gym that’s just one giant men’s restroom
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:40 PM
7

I like that sub but there’s a large fraction of feminists cosplaying as men’s rights activists. They’re only slightly better than normal feminists. Instead of oppressing men and not caring how we react to it, they just want to learn how to make men more comfortable while they slowly take our humanity away.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:39 PM
1

There are plenty of subs for left leaning men’s rights activists. I’m extremely liberal with the exception of affirmative action.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:37 PM
0

I’ve recently lost all hope for the progressive party. Until affirmative action goes away I’m voting third party. Maybe right after Trump because nothing the left does makes insurrection ok.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:36 PM
37

“””toxic masculinity””” is just any presentation of masculinity that doesn’t benefit the speaker. Not to say all kinds of masculinity are positive, but women are neurologically wired to be manipulative. They don’t even realize they’re doing it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 11:35 PM
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And this is just the first step. Next is ensuring there are quotas in the scouts so women are selected first for all the awards and leadership positions. And making toms of scholarships for women that everyone pays for so that less affluent boys can’t afford to participate And kangaroo courts to make sure young boys get labeled as troublemakers as early on as possible.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:31 PM
69

Watching BSA crumble is such a sad thing for me. Learning how to socialize outside of the judgement of women had a profoundly positive effect on my life. You just can’t build character the same way when you have to be constantly aware of how women will react to you. And feminists know exactly what they’re doing. They’re making sure young boys have absolutely no safe place to learn to be men. All they want to do is hurt boys and men because they can’t control their hatred. And the worst thing is …
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:29 PM
2

This will be addressed by equity. Women must be kicked out of their houses so that the balance of homeless men and women is perfectly equal
/r/MensRights07/05/24 10:36 PM
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I think giving women all the wealth is the key reason feminism is so popular in business. It’s well studied that women spend more and care less about saving. If all your surfs spend all their money they’ll have to work harder and never be able to retire It’s also why brands that have predominant women’s demographics support feminism much more militantly than companies that typically cater to men. Being PC only makes sense if it gives more money to your key audience
/r/MensRights07/05/24 10:31 PM
1

Look at all the statistics! Men are convicted for a lot of murders so that clearly means all men are lawless war machines and all women are incapable of aggression. Stereotypes only skew conviction rates when they’re against an important voting block.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 08:30 PM
4

Gay people are also a more marginalized group according to public perception so they can’t control them by lying about how hard their lives are
/r/MensRights07/05/24 08:22 PM
8

Exactly this. My girlfriend is in med school and sometimes can’t sleep at night because of how afraid of ghosts she is.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:02 PM
2

There are a lot of roles in engineering and academia where all you have to do is accurately listen to what someone else wants you to do. For every 1 person who needs to actually think critically, there can be an entire team of people who are basically just minions. Women fill the minion roles very well. They learn procedures quickly and always follow the rules. But they often get stuck in red tape and often avoid simple and efficient solutions if it isn’t exactly what you asked for
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:01 PM
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Something horrifying I’ve come to realize is that most women legitimately don’t think about the consequences of their actions. They just think the people they like on Tik tok are always right and react instinctively to every single situation And on paper they seem so smart. So many women I work with are amazing scientists, engineers, etc. but have the critical thinking skills of a wall nut
/r/MensRights07/05/24 03:06 AM
2

Exactly. Truly have no idea how the people on the other side of this discussion can’t realize that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 01:08 AM
10

It’s a real, systematic issue. More and more often systems are being built that assume all men have strong networks that allow them to use masculinity to get an edge. If you weren’t socialized in a traditionally masculine way it puts you at a severe disadvantage. That’s one reason I dislike affirmative action in its current form. You’re not removing the root issue of men’s groups, etc. you’re just making it impossible for the men that don’t participate in those unequal systems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 01:10 AM
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This. Men are only allowed to open up about their feelings if they communicate it the exact same way a girl would, and communicate issues that women empathize with. Everything else is incel-ish or alt-right conspiracy theorizing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 12:57 AM
2

The internet has become real life, especially post-covid for young millennials and younger. I haven’t met a girl since college that isn’t extremely misandrist and thinks it’s funny to relentlessly bash men and white people. Are women are truly brainwashed. Maybe they always have been
/r/MensRights06/05/24 12:52 AM
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Self awareness has bottomed out online. I said saying men are worse than bears is exactly as bad as saying black people are as bad as bears and someone reported me. Honestly that was the moment I gave up hope for Reddit. Ban me if you want. I’m just sad we’ll never get to see the internet we dreamed of in the 2000s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 12:50 AM
2

Women as a group are chronically online and can’t handle their emotions so most PR teams are afraid of them. I honestly think it’s time for a men’s exodus of digital communication/media. The only way to beat a game like this is to stop playing. Go outside, make connections in your community, stop interacting with a system that is designed to exploit you to gain the favor of people who are louder and more fragile.
/r/MensRights06/05/24 12:47 AM
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That’s how hegemonic control works for men. Men by themselves (typically) don’t respond to praise Thea’s effectively as women so to control them you have to create rules that shame them into being productive. The discovery you made means the system is working as intended. You’re wrong if you’re masculine and you’re wrong if you’re feminine. Wrong if you go left wrong if you go right, etc. The key to escaping these systems is to stop caring about the ideals people are trying to force on you. Do w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 03:51 AM
15

Culture is just a tool to get a population to act in a favorable way. Gender norms still exist for men because they can still be used to motivate us to be useful to others
/r/MensRights03/05/24 09:31 PM
2

Eh honestly besides the breakup it didn’t have much of an effect on me. It was just the path of least resistance. I’m just telling this story because I still think it’s messed up on her end, and wanted to validate other people’s experiences if they’ve been in similar situations where they were non-physically coerced into sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 04:04 PM
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The statistics say the bear is less likely to attack me so I’m gonna go with the bear
/r/MensRights03/05/24 01:27 AM
1

I wouldn’t say men’s rights has always been about anything. A lot of it is good and a lot of it is bad. Whatever justification you create is irrelevant. The point of feminism is to take resources away from men and to give resources to women. So yes it’s just another political belief to justify why some people deserve special treatment.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 10:30 PM
1

You don’t get to choose your favorite and most politically correct part of the movement and say that’s what it’s all about. Feminism has also advocated for the extermination and enslavement of all men. And in practice it’s about taking resources away from men and giving them to women.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 09:50 PM
1

Well he’s an advertiser. Complete people don’t pay his bills
/r/MensRights02/05/24 09:48 PM
4

“””masculinity””” is a made up code used to make men useful to the ruling class of a region. Reject expectations and hegemonic control. Embrace grizzly bear
/r/MensRights02/05/24 09:39 PM
1

Do whatever makes you and your family stronger. Fighting against abstract “norms” isn’t worth the health and safety of your child
/r/MensRights02/05/24 06:52 PM
14

1 complete lack of understanding for what the word fair means 2 completely unable to see things from a perspective other than their own
/r/MensRights02/05/24 06:29 PM
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I mean what do you expect from people who feel rejected by society? It’s just a natural outcome of creating a culture that is restrictive of men. I don’t encourage that behavior because it’s not product for them or anyone else, but I also don’t pretend like it’s not a reasonable outcome from a life spent in this backwards world
/r/MensRights02/05/24 06:19 PM
1

I guess can’t is a strong word. I didn’t mean that it never happens, because it absolutely does. I’m just saying in most conditions women can’t inflict the physical violence they want to use to get what they want, because they know they can’t win an even fight. People that snap and get the element of surprise or lucky can do anything though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 04:40 PM
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Glad we’re starting to have some real discussions from this inane trend. I agree. Now that I know that women see every one of us as lawless wild animals, it begins to discredit basically every statistic that paints us as violent
/r/MensRights02/05/24 03:42 PM
2

The more I learn about feminism the more horrified I get. There’s just no end to how much they’re willing to support people who explicitly call for exterminating all men.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 03:06 PM
3

Being objectified is when you’re seen as an object to acquire instead of a full human being. Being toolified is when you’re seen as a tool to be exploited to acquire other objects instead of a full human being
/r/MensRights02/05/24 02:35 PM
5

I’ve accepted it. It feels kinda good knowing I’m as terrifying as a bear to the people that want to dehumanize me Chimpanzee 100%. At least I know they won’t accuse me of rape!!!!
/r/MensRights02/05/24 02:28 PM
1

Toxic masculinity is just hegemonic control. It means you’re acting masculine in a way the person insulting you doesn’t want you to act.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 01:36 PM
10

I wouldn’t call it rape but I had a very coercive experience which I think resonates with a lot of men’s forces sex. I was up in Boston visiting my long distance girlfriend in the middle of a snowstorm. We got in a giant fight about a lot of things, sex was some of them. She hit me a couple times but that’s not the point, she was much smaller than me and the hits didn’t really have any effect. I’m working around midnight and she’s still pissed and breaking things throughout her house. I had a fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 04:52 AM
5

Do what a grizzly bear would do. She already sees you that way
/r/MensRights02/05/24 03:42 AM
10

Feminism just wants to give power to women regardless of where it comes from. If a liberal perspective gives women power, they’ll use it. If a conservative perspective gives women power they’ll use that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 03:27 AM
7

Troll farms man. Just don’t engage it’s not worth it
/r/MensRights01/05/24 09:58 PM
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Exactly. Anyone slamming men with this take is missing the point.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 09:57 PM
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It’s just trolling. Don’t fall for it. Not all women are hysterical, but many of them are. They wouldn’t actually pick a bear over a man, they just want to say that because of some chronically online neurotic impulse. If anything it’s worse for feminists. It just reinforces the idea that women are irrational and aren’t in tune with reality or themselves.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 09:54 PM
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It’s because they’ve misinterpreted a very specific sociological lens and think it’s the only lens that matters. Institutional racism/sexism by definition flows on average from the more powerful demographic to the less powerful demographic. However institutional lenses aren’t the only things to exist, and any group of people can be considered a valid “system” Most SJWs use circular logic and believe the only valid topics of discussion are the ones where institutional systems work in ways that on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 09:15 PM
5

I think economics makes some sense. A lot of really motivated and hardworking people are held back because they need to prioritize survival over achievement. If you give them a scholarship and get them out of the bad situations they come from they tend to shine later on life. You shouldn’t instantly give preference to poorer people, but it’s definitely worth considering that many of their talents aren’t as visible because of the environment they’re in
/r/MensRights01/05/24 09:06 PM
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Women have an unnatural knack for sheltering their ego by tearing down their partners. If she’s like most women she’s just lashing out, it doesn’t mean anything
/r/MensRights23/04/24 11:41 PM
1

Recommendation algorithms surround you with whatever keeps you engaged
/r/MensRights23/04/24 06:43 PM
2

The funny thing about echo-chambers is they don’t have to agree with your beliefs. Oftentimes they echo thoughts you disagree with to irritate you and prompt you to engage. So both are true. People that hate misogyny see misogyny, and people that hate misandry see misandry. The golden age of the internet is dead. All we get is engagement hacking
/r/MensRights23/04/24 05:46 PM
1

OP used $ so I take it that he did the conversion
/r/MensRights23/04/24 05:42 PM
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I read this as female doctors being more worried about their death rates. many doctors won’t take cases if it seems too risky. I’d rather have a male doctor because he’s less likely to dip when odds of survival go down
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:09 PM
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Not really. With YouTube you take a much more active approach to finding new videos. Closer analogies would be anything with a feed algorithm like Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc. But I suppose if you’re just mindlessly scrolling YouTube it would have a similar effect. It’s important to engage with social media with intent to avoid cognitive decline. Don’t just scroll.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 01:12 PM
1

Yeah I realized that awhile ago hahaha
/r/MensRights23/04/24 01:09 PM
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There was actually a study that found that lower status straight women are much more likely to be judge mental about men’s looks and behaviors
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:39 AM
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Yes. It’s about hegemonic control
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:37 AM
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Google them lol. If you google “men killed by women” you only get results of women that were killed by men. It’s blatant bias
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:12 AM
1

Again, read the papers brother. The TikTok recommendation algorithm falls into a category called “multi armed bandits” which trigger addictive gambling responses. Essentially TikTok knows what you like and what you don’t like, so it will semi-randomly give you hits of the good stuff. It also tapers how good the hit is slowly, so you’re constantly craving a big rush of satisfaction that will never come. These algorithms are strongly linked with reductions in impulse control and executive function…
/r/MensRights23/04/24 03:10 AM
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Now look up “men killed by women” and vise versa
/r/MensRights22/04/24 12:32 PM
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It probably has something to do with how hospitals interact with patients. Often the doctors themselves would have to determine a munchausen case, so explaining it in the lens of an illness makes it easier for them to identify
/r/MensRights22/04/24 12:26 PM
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It’s a series of reasons. Women are more likely to lie, they are more likely to go to the doctor (even for minor injuries), and are more likely to ignore the hospitals triage system and assume they are the highest priority in the hospital And almost all women lie almost impulsively hahaha. Only some do it to doctors.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 12:23 PM
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That second stereotype does an unbelievable amount of damage. I’m a fully grown adult and I still tell a lot of new people I work in finance instead of engineering. It’s like the average person has never even considered a man can be smart and not a social leper
/r/MensRights22/04/24 12:07 PM
1

Men can either be dumb or nerdy and unlovable what is so hard to understand??
/r/MensRights22/04/24 12:03 PM
1

Fair haha
/r/MensRights22/04/24 01:50 AM
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Honestly you have to drink the PJ. Learn to make yourself as liberal and feminine as you can when it suits your career. Swallow your pride and regurgitate all that feminist nonsense when you have to. All the guys do it, and very few of them actually believe what they’re saying. Make sure you look good and talk good. Aesthetics are way more important to women so if your hiring team has a woman you need to do what will get you hired. Being attractive to them is one of the most important factors in…
/r/MensRights22/04/24 01:00 AM
1

It takes hours but if you really make a good point that they can’t belittle you for, they’ll just stop responding lol. It’s impossible to win, but you absolutely can have the last word
/r/MensRights21/04/24 07:40 PM
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It’s absolutely unfair but don’t let it rattle you. Just tell people you didn’t want to have sex with her and she flipped out
/r/MensRights21/04/24 07:04 PM
1

I have absolutely nothing against swift as a person, (outside of being a heartless billionaire, but I don’t talk about that) I just didn’t really connect with the song. It sounds exactly like the other 10,000 songs she’s made
/r/MensRights21/04/24 06:28 PM
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That might have been my convo lol Or at least frighteningly similar. She was trying to convince me that no feminist has ever killed a man, and that the SCUM lady didn’t count as a feminist, and didn’t technically kill anyone. I told her that the New York Women’s society claimed she was a hero of women’s rights before she got violent, and suddenly the responses stopped.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 06:13 PM
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That place is so funny. They learned the rules of oppression but have zero awareness that they’re doing the exact same thing they claim to hate. I know big subreddits are often irrational, but that is literally the most viciously defended echo chamber I’ve ever seen
/r/MensRights21/04/24 06:10 PM
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I get it, it’s just a dammed if I do damned if I don’t situation. I can either lie and have to pretend I like that song and Swift’s music for the rest of time, or tell her the truth Not everyone has to like everyone else’s music! I actually think it’s pretty funny when I show her a song that she absolutely hates.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 05:41 PM
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Yeah I know I was supposed to lie, but I hate doing that to someone that’s supposed to be my partner. She isn’t a child, she should be capable of learning that I don’t like the same music that she does And where did you get a spiel from? I was telling her I understand she makes quality music that appeals to a lot of people, but it just isn’t my taste
/r/MensRights21/04/24 05:13 PM
2

Hahaha honestly not a terrible idea
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:33 PM
3

People that claim to be fans? 5% Actual fans? <1%
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:33 PM
3

She started getting popular again around the time TikTok became popular. Her advertising team has a chokehold on that app
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:32 PM
1

Adele is also awesome
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:31 PM
1

Feels that way sometimes
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:27 PM
1

It really feels that way. I have no idea how so has such a hold on these people
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:27 PM
2

No idea brother. Sometimes I really think life would be so much easier if I was gay
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:24 PM
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I can’t really come up with a good definition, but it’s a sort of all or nothing thing. If gay rights are brought up, a lot of supporters will attack men for anything other than full compliance to what their stance is, so a lot of men just ignore political issues they don’t fully agree with. So for instance if you were raised in a super southern/Christian family, it can just make you uncomfortable to think about gay people or gay rights (which is wrong, but reasonable) even if you logically acce…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:24 PM
1

I unironically love her business strategy. There’s a kind of respect I have for her having absolutely zero self-expression or impact. She’s just fully optimized to get money
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:06 PM
2

It’s impossible for me to understand what there is to like about her music. It almost seems like the more boring and monotonous, the more they like it
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:04 PM
1

This is why I have decoy playlists on my phone with tons of women hahaha
/r/MensRights21/04/24 04:01 PM
2

I would normally agree, but she was fine up until she started using tiktok.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 03:59 PM
2

Oh yeah don’t get me started on this.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 03:57 PM
3

Hits getting worse. I truly can’t understand what’s so addictive about her specifically
/r/MensRights21/04/24 03:56 PM
6

This actually makes so much sense
/r/MensRights21/04/24 03:54 PM
1

I get it, but the word itself caries a sense of equality to it even if they make up a phony definition. For misandry it’s just so easy to dismiss. Just say “I don’t believe it’s real” and you can stonewall. Or just make up completely different rules to water down what someone considers to be misandrist. I think my point is that differentiating the words validates that there are different rules for different genders, while sexism is more unifying so it’s inherently bidirectional (at least in comm…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 08:08 AM
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🫡
/r/MensRights21/04/24 07:10 AM
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Prepare your tinfoil hat, it’s conspiracy time: I think a lot of it is influenced by marketting for women’s fashion. I’ve noticed it’s almost always fair game to talk about a woman’s cosmetics or clothes, instead of their actual physique (which is absolutely backwards) This is especially encouraged by women themselves. Straight up “Starbucks girl w ugg boots” guerrilla marketting. The people with the money want the world to complements girls’ shoes, and purses, and earrings so they buy more of t…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 07:00 AM
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Yeah I know. I’ve been having these thoughts myself lately. I’m hoping it’s just a phase and she’ll eventually grow out of it, and I’m planning about confronting her about it soon if she can’t change on her own. But odds of failure are growing, which sucks
/r/MensRights21/04/24 06:30 AM
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I get that but it’s still fundamentally the same thing. You’re either using stereotypes to hurt men or stereotypes to hurt women. Both are sexism towards men or women, but separating them into two words just divides both sides. The reason women use misogyny is because sexism by its nature goes both ways, which you don’t want to point out if your entire ethos relies on misandry not existing. If we use misandry, it only affirms that there’s the “good” kind of discriminatio(what we call misandry, a…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 06:27 AM
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I love her but especially with feminism she’s completely clueless. She uses TikTok and I think she gets a lot of her ideas from that. It’s a shame, I really liked her before she got hooked but now all her beliefs are just the “popular/girlie” stance on a topic. She wasn’t always like this but now it’s just not fun anymore when I already know everything she’ll say before she does.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 06:01 AM
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The reason I don’t open up to people is for all those reasons you mentioned, but also even if im heard it doesn’t actually do anything. Nobody will change their behavior if it makes a man uncomfortable. And ironically this ignoring never happens more quickly nor totally as it does for women that like to say they think men should open up more, and pat themselves in the back if you tell them anything. Or suddenly realize they actually think men with feelings are icky
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/24 05:57 AM
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“Society doesn’t owe you anything “ says the woman who’s entire ideology is to warp society to give her things
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/24 05:52 AM
66

“Men don’t have feelings, they have egos” is the most succinctly and accurately I’ve ever heard this said. That’s a phrase I’m going to remember
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/24 05:51 AM
9

Yeah I hate eldest daughter syndrome so much. I was the eldest son and empathize with a lot of the conditions they talk about, but according to most women that can’t be true because that dynamic only happens to women. I must have hallucinated 75% of my childhood. They’re encouraging the exact stereotypes they claim to hate. They’re saying “a man can’t and shouldn’t care for their siblings and can’t be pressured by their parents to do so” which is absolutely ridiculous.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 02:48 AM
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The crazy thing is she had no idea she was doing it. She was just completely driven by instinct so it was impossible to reason with her and get her to understand that she was being a bad person. It actually really opened my eyes to how women think. So many of them just never engage the part of their brain that second guesses their instincts. Literally pure ID no ego. And absolutely zero ability to see things from a perspective other than their own, which is horrifying. But yeah women be crazy so…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 02:05 AM
19

Somebody please genderbend this
/r/MensRights21/04/24 01:57 AM
16

Oh no the gender that has basically zero repercussions for being unsuccessful aren’t getting into prestigious programs. It must be an issue with the tests, instead of their intrinsic lack of motivation
/r/MensRights21/04/24 01:41 AM
14

A study by a postdoc who only gets grant funding if he agrees with feminism says feminism is right!
/r/MensRights21/04/24 01:17 AM
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Absolutely true. Every girlfriend I’ve had has done some pretty sketchy stuff when they want to get laid, and for the most part they were pretty even-keeled women. Several times ignoring direct statements that I don’t want to have sex, “accidentally” touching me to try and get me to change my mind, lots of slaps for not being in the mood, and a good handful of nuclear meltdowns that lead me giving up and banging them just to go to sleep. I actually still really struggle with intimacy because awh…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 01:14 AM
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I personally don’t have anything against gay people and have plenty of gay friends, so it always hurts to see how my other friends feel about the topic. My take on the issue is that straight men will be attacked or snipped at by literally everyone (including gay people!) if they aren’t super into gay rights, so for a lot of people it isn’t worth the status-risk of associating with gay people. The second is that gay people are often fairly outspoken liberals, which is fine but introduces a very d…
/r/MensRights21/04/24 12:59 AM
14

Why is pain management such a mess in this world? Not everyone acts exactly the way the studies experts skim. If someone’s in pain just treat them!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/24 12:51 AM
3

There’s also a category of insult that incenses people because of how generalized or inappropriate they are. It’s a hard topic to explain but consider how you’re somewhat irritated that someone would make a comment like “all single women will end as old cat ladies.” - in the case irritation is the goal not the actual validity of the insult.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 12:45 AM
2

This never leads anywhere. Something about the feminist mind virus caries an absolutely impenetrable misunderstanding of what a “system” is There is only one system, and it’s the system that oppressed them. What don’t you understand about that??
/r/MensRights20/04/24 05:18 PM
4

Exactly. Rich men and women make the rules we all have to follow. It’s not about men vs women it’s the ruling class vs everyone else.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 05:17 PM
6

I love when they make bad faith arguments to say you’re making bad faith arguments. They love that word so much and have never once used it appropriately I stg And yes you’re entirely right. They think exactly like children. I really don’t meant it as an insult, but that mentality really does make it easier to talk to them.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 05:13 PM
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It’s the same issue with every political movement. Once you attain critical mass you have to keep finding issues. Feminism is an entire culture of politicians, researchers, and oppression olympians who’s ideals are permanently tied to being oppressed by the patriarchy. As soon as they get what they want they have to find something else to be upset over. This is a litmus test to find a rational feminist. Even if we disagree on when women are “equal” it is a simple fact of life that feminists will…
/r/MensRights20/04/24 05:04 PM
3

TikTok’s recommendation algorithm knows exactly what pisses you off, demoralized, and hooked to social media. It’s 100% intentional. A divided, demoralized, and addicted west is far easier to challenge. They learned from the opium wars and are throwing those moves right back at us
/r/MensRights20/04/24 04:58 PM
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It does far more damage than good to your brain. Read the studies brother
/r/MensRights20/04/24 04:55 PM
3

True but for most other social medias the goal is money, and dissent is the tool. For TikTok and the CCP, the entire point is dissent. TikTok is also wildly more effective at “hypnotizing” and influencing users. Their multi armed bandit is beyond equal
/r/MensRights20/04/24 04:52 PM
2

This is true of most social media, but especially tiktok because it is very close to a foreign government. Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have similar features, but way toned down because they still have to make a profit. China can force TikTok to do whatever they want and shut them entirely down if they don’t comply.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 04:51 PM
3

AI is just a power multiplier. Right not tech is dominated and paid for by far left psychosis so it will probably do far more bad than good And also people looking for work is never good for anyone. Just means we all get paid less
/r/MensRights20/04/24 01:26 AM
3

I don’t study this but honestly catcher in the eye probably has some pearls of wisdom At least showing how society treats a young and misunderstood adolescent and does absolutely nothing to help him
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 01:24 AM
4

China especially is worrying. They have such a surplus of men
/r/MensRights20/04/24 12:50 AM
1

lol don’t fall for the rage bait brother
/r/MensRights19/04/24 09:29 PM
3

Well for me I have to work to support my family no matter what, there might as well be fewer workers to drive down wages, and more respect for me since I’m the only one that has to keep my family afloat The difference with women working is they know they don’t really have to, and feminine culture has no concept of being frugal. As a result most families can’t really count on the woman’s income except in emergencies. It’s still the man’s job to save and earn a retirement for both people, which is…
/r/MensRights19/04/24 09:22 PM
-4

Yes the Biden owned courts. That’s why the Supreme Court destroyed abortion rights
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 09:20 PM
0

Yes….. it was the deep state that refused to intervene to stop the insurrection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 09:19 PM
1

What did he do exactly?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 09:13 PM
4

Bingo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 06:22 PM
12

Once again feminists ask for equality except when equality is something bad for them
/r/MensRights19/04/24 05:59 PM
19

Eh a lot of the terfs I’ve met just want the gold medal in the oppression Olympics. Many were radicalized by actual events. But many are just bitter people who went down a rabbit hole
/r/MensRights19/04/24 05:58 PM
132

Hey man at least they’re honest All feminists want us to be content to go die in wars and mines for them, they just come up with massively warped ideals to justify it
/r/MensRights19/04/24 05:51 PM
16

I think plenty of people maintain definitions of masculinity which are harmful to themselves and the people around them. I think labeling every single harmless thing a man does as “toxic” is extremely naive and hurtful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 04:54 PM
3

You’re thinking too idealistically. Scabs are gonna scab. Supply and demand is going to… supply and demand. Especially with feminism it’s very easy to paint a strike negatively to get women to be defacto scabs. Just say something like “men can afford to strike because they’re supported by the patriarchy” or “the union only cares about men’s right to work and does nothing to support women” Then presto chango all of the women don’t want to strike. And works vice-versa as well. Label the strikes as…
/r/MensRights19/04/24 04:06 PM
2

Don’t just hang in there for yourself now, hang on for yourself 5 years from now when this has all blown over. It always does
/r/MensRights19/04/24 02:36 PM
2

Like he said in the last paragraph, he’s becoming suicidal without her. He’s between a rock and a hard place. But honestly OP, I know this is Reddit but you need to end things and get away from her. Breakups can make you miserable for months but you’ll get over it. The pain is unavoidable but it’s temporary, and completely necessary. She will get your life destroyed if you stay with her long enough You’re a human being OP, nobody deserves that kind of treatment, you’ll find someone who can be a …
/r/MensRights19/04/24 02:26 PM
9

Because increases the work pool goes against those benefits. If you have a larger work pool, you can treat your workers more unfairly. So on one hand their virtue signaling that work should be more accommodating, then also virtue signaling that work should be (implicitly) harder
/r/MensRights19/04/24 01:36 PM
44

lol trump loves disenfranchised men just as much as anyone else. Why would he stop processes that get him voters?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 01:31 PM
10

By the common definition basically every male is a chronic victim of domestic violence. Women slip by it by playing the long game. Instead of one big wallop they wear you down physically and psychologically over an entire relationship. Death by a thousand cuts.
/r/MensRights19/04/24 03:39 AM
25

It’s pointless to measure something that evades detection by its very nature.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 10:29 PM
3

I live in San Francisco and people legitimately think this way. They call the bay “diverse” just because there are more Asian people here than white people, even though there’s practically nobody from any other group
/r/MensRights18/04/24 08:32 PM
1

You don’t have to be a who’re woman for them to consider you in their club, you just have to talk turn against your heritage and act like them.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 03:52 PM
0

As a contractor, I love the obtuse Karen managers. I’ve been on a project that was supposed to take 6 months for the last year and a half. So much squabbling and so few decisions Meanwhile my workflow is all men and we get everything done on time and get to play video games until everyone catches up And nobody wants to study this phenomenon so I can’t give stats, but at my job at least there is a clear difference in capability between every man and every woman, regardless of race.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 03:48 PM
2

Education creep is discrimination because women can more easily get support from their families or scholarships. These support systems naturally make women care less about the price of tuition, so the price can be increased past what some men can afford and still be optimal
/r/MensRights18/04/24 01:30 PM
4

What about the diversity???? 100% woman is the most diverse you could be
/r/MensRights18/04/24 01:28 PM
9

This seems like the main argument comes from a pretty basic aggregate chart. Peer review is good when you’re arguing a complex technical point, but when your main argument is simply “look at the chart” you don’t get much of an improvement in accuracy. So it’s a good starter analysis and the results are the results. We just have to hope someone picks up this ball and runs with it *entirely based on the authors credibility though. If she fudged the numbers it’s useless. I’d also like to see if the…
/r/MensRights18/04/24 04:37 AM
8

I see emasculation as when someone uses an arbitrary view of masculine traits to shame a man for how he acts. I.e. “Stop being an incel and grow up” is emasculating because it strips a man’s identity of being able to appear attractive to women and being emotionally mature. But at the same time “grow up and let women split the bill” can also be emasculating, because the speaker is trying to enforce their own view of masculinity on someone they judge to not be worthy of being a man. Especially wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/24 01:07 AM
2

lol bro you have to work on being more sociable. I have a deep voice normally. But for school and work I’ve learned I come off better when I raise it an octave to avoid letting people know my balls dropped. Nothing makes them feel safer than the illusion of an emasculated man. I think this is actually much more important than people give it credit for. I hate that I have to change my voice just to do my job
/r/MensRights18/04/24 12:57 AM
22

There’s nothing greedier than a political movement that’s achieved its stated goals. Think tanks need money, politicians need issues to upset their voters over, gender studies postdocs need grant funding, keyboard warriors need boogeymen to oppress them. It’s a perfect self-sustaining ecosystem. There will always be another issue that needs to be solved
/r/MensRights17/04/24 03:30 PM
33

“Believe all women” is what first made me realize just how insane feminists have become Absolutely zero self awareness that saying that is like a lighthouse for liars to take advantage of society
/r/MensRights17/04/24 02:18 PM
1

This is the part where they say women actually reinforce the patriarchy because they’ve each individually been beaten and brainwashed by the husbands the can’t live even a single day without
/r/MensRights17/04/24 02:10 PM
4

We’re well past that point for most men I know
/r/MensRights17/04/24 02:08 PM
9

They’ll really say absolutely anything but “I just want what’s most advantageous for me and don’t care who I hurt in the processes”
/r/MensRights17/04/24 02:06 PM
3

You’re absolutely right. Feminists study all the unfair systems in our society and label them “patriarchal” then turn around and replicate those systems for their own benefit and call it “equity” Just like the “patriarchy” they hate, they rely on stereotypes and massive systematic advantages to make fighting back impossible. They imagined the concept of the worst possible society for women, then turned around and made it a reality for men
/r/MensRights17/04/24 02:04 PM
3

I feel you. I can’t even find good research papers these days. Everything is so tilted in every direction but the truth. If you’re looking for tech/engineering that’s sort of what Medium tries to be, the MIT Tech review is pretty good. They don’t make a ton of material but it’s a more quality/quantity journal which I like. They still get the occasional misinfo curveball though
/r/MensRights17/04/24 04:15 AM
5

Hahaha not your fault, they have a weird way of advertising what they actually are
/r/MensRights17/04/24 04:03 AM
5

The worst thing you can do to a comedian is completely forget about them
/r/MensRights17/04/24 03:59 AM
13

“Yes you can! It’s about skfivicisndltorsh…” -people that benefit from fighting sexism with sexism
/r/MensRights17/04/24 03:57 AM
11

Isn’t Medium a bunch of randoms making posts for engagement bait? I don’t think this is off-brand at all They have decently good coding articles thougj
/r/MensRights17/04/24 03:54 AM
6

Absolutely. These days it feels like the only place I can be myself is when I’m off the grid and around my friends. There’s just too much doublethink to fully enjoy being with strangers
/r/MensRights16/04/24 11:42 PM
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It’s evil, but not inaccurate. If you want a job in any field of research you need to know how to drink the PJ. except maybe statistics, that’s the only one where people really buck against preconceived notions.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 05:53 PM
39

Could be discovered on laptops
/r/MensRights16/04/24 04:18 PM
76

If you pay for my gym membership and protein powder I’ll pay for your lipstick
/r/MensRights16/04/24 02:56 AM
47

Lol women’s baked in profit optimizing intuition is a bizarre thing. She doesn’t know it but she wants your money. If she needs a marriage, make sure you have a bulletproof prenup
/r/MensRights16/04/24 02:11 AM
26

Sorry my guy, this generation of women just aren’t emotionally mature enough. Find a support system outside of your SO or wait until you find the one in a million that understands you.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 09:48 PM
23

Spot on. They’ve completely rebuilt every system they claim to hate. It’s just the will to power. Where there’s a way to exploit people, they will be exploited. Feminism is no different
/r/MensRights14/04/24 05:34 PM
5

Oh I’m sorry. I’m not sure why I thought they were in highschool. The world just isn’t interested in men right now, especially conservative ones. Try to empathize with them, and try to guide them in the right direction, and maybe get them into hobbies that interest them and give them employable skills. It would also be good to know more about them as people, to try and come up with more specific advice
/r/MensRights14/04/24 05:28 AM
1

Best thing you can do is get them to hang out with the right people and make sure they know how to act in a way that looks good to college admissions. Not sure if your family is liberal or not, but understanding liberal ideology is absolutely essential to a good career. Make sure they know everything about pronouns, feminism, and all the other buzzwords. Encourage them to do all the lame bootlicker clubs like key club and science Olympiad. Men are strongly discouraged to participate in these thi…
/r/MensRights14/04/24 05:14 AM
1

I don’t know who you think my friends are, but we’re not the ones doing all the raping lol
/r/MensRights13/04/24 05:37 PM
5

It’s a combination of subtle things. Basically a combination of the halo effect and cultural similarities between female teachers and students. First, teachers are generally better at teaching to their gender for a variety of reasons. Easier to understand eachother, interested in the same topics, etc. Many teachers also have preconceived notions that male students will be rowdy and female ones will be quiet and attentive, so even quiet men and loud women get seen through a skewed lens. It makes …
/r/MensRights12/04/24 03:43 PM
1

Women go to the doctor more often than men. Therefore most pharmaceuticals heavily market towards women. This isn’t really discrimination, just marketting. That being said we need to work as a society to make it more acceptable for men to go to the hospital so we stop dying over fixable issues
/r/MensRights12/04/24 01:44 PM
7

lol chatgpt is that you?
/r/MensRights12/04/24 01:39 PM
9

First of all, you’re flat out wrong about splitting bills. I’ve never met a girl that goes completely 50/50 with their SO. And even if they did, women are attracted to wealth and status symbols regardless of how it’s used towards them. And secondly we’re talking about broad statistics, not your personal experience. Making school harder for men than women simply means that more men will fail. Many of them will get a work-study instead of a fancy unpaid internship. Many of them would have to work …
/r/MensRights12/04/24 01:35 PM
21

It absolutely is because of discrimination. Women get more scholarship opportunities so many of them don’t have to work for money and can afford unpaid internships to boost their career, or increase their odds of graduating. Also admissions departments are heavily skewed. And then they further skew to allow women to pursue more competitive majors like engineering and computer science. And finally the increasingly pervasive view that a women’s perspective on writing and opinionated fields is more…
/r/MensRights12/04/24 01:31 PM
0

It’ll come from plenty of liberals, but zero democrats
/r/MensRights12/04/24 01:15 PM
6

Yeah man I wasn’t joking. Truly horrific stuff
/r/MensRights11/04/24 08:51 PM
10

Violence against men is swept under the rug by a horrifying amount of big tech companies. Just try googling “men killed by women” on Google and you’ll see how bad it’s gotten. The way they paint things, it’s like the internet has never used those words together before. Honestly made me a little sick. I didn’t trust Google before but now I feel like it’s entirely broken
/r/MensRights11/04/24 07:45 PM
76

As a man, if you need someone to step in as CEO (or any position superior to mine) to take the blame you can offer me the job any time. I’ll happily drop off that glass cliff with my golden parachute.
/r/MensRights11/04/24 04:28 PM
21

It’s demonizing 101. Your opponent is both shamefully afraid of you and despotically oppressing you at the same time based on whichever proves your current point. It works extra well on men because fear is viewed as a non-masculine trait, so it divides MRAs from what “real men would do” - another example of how feminism leverages their so called patriarchy when it fits their narrative. And don’t forget the third pillar, good ole ad hominem. If you disagree with me it’s not because of a valid but…
/r/MensRights11/04/24 03:50 PM
22

This is why you just click through the trainings
/r/MensRights11/04/24 03:11 AM
2

Bad policies build resentment and inspire “eye for an eye” policies so that people will target what you (or a group) cares about. Instead you should just vote third party. It signals to analysts that you’re so unhappy with the current system that you’re knowingly throwing your vote away, but that you’re still an active voter. If that third party block gets big enough it’ll influence policy as people begin to compete for that untapped voting pool
/r/MensRights11/04/24 01:40 AM
62

*Men have no feelings unless they can be used to villainize or mock them
/r/MensRights10/04/24 08:42 PM
9

She really believes it, but she made that number up based on faulty instinct-calculations. Women’s selective memory should be the 8th wonder of the world. The issue is he can’t show her the budget or she’ll pívot and say “wow look at all the money you have and how you can’t afford to spend more on me” Seriously we need women to become more financially literate. My girlfriend won’t be happy until I can only afford $2 a month for my retirement plan.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 05:06 PM
1

I get that, but you’re making it harder to get what you want and making life worse for men and women because you’d rather be vindictive
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:56 PM
1

They don’t get an overriding say, but they may persuade the woman. It’s also a necessary component in giving us full reproductive rights. If the woman doesn’t have the option to abort, nobody will ever gov us the right to not be stuck with them. Use your head.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:50 PM
1

Men need to have the right to not be the father if they want to abort and the woman doesn’t. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t let anyone get abortions.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:35 PM
2

Yes?
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:33 PM
1

It’s a well studied fact that less access to abortions leads to more unwanted pregnancies, not less
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:33 PM
2

It’s his right to not raise a child he doesn’t want. Abortion is definitely halfway there but we also need to rules that allow the man to avoid being forced to pay alimony if they don’t want to raise a child. But the way things are currently, banning abortion just makes more men forced to raised children they don’t want
/r/MensRights10/04/24 04:01 AM
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I’ll I’m saying is you won’t see me moving to Arizona or any anti-abortion state until it’s reversed. Not being able to get an abortion can ruin three lives with one mistake.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:09 AM
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You don’t get to override them but it’s not like every abortion has a man that wants the keep the baby. Oftentimes their positions align. I agree with you that we need more of a say, but taking away control from both people is not at all the right direction to go It seems like you’re mostly caught up with preventing women from aborting when a man wants to keep the child, but to me that seems unreasonable. Having a child really is an entirely different challenge for women than men so they absolut…
/r/MensRights10/04/24 02:38 AM
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For men abortion is a male reproductive right. Just because it helps women more doesn’t mean we don’t get any benefit from it
/r/MensRights10/04/24 02:19 AM
11

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind
/r/MensRights10/04/24 01:59 AM
4

It’s telling that you call it a baby and not an embryo/fetus lol
/r/MensRights10/04/24 12:48 AM
34

This is horrible for men because they’ll also be stuck with more kids they didn’t want. And just because we don’t have reproductive rights doesn’t mean we should take them away from others.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 12:45 AM
1

I know what you mean but it’s our job to break out of this catch 22 Voting behavior is not controlled by men’s rights policy, so no politicians care about men’s rights What we need to do is start voting letting the issues we care about control who we vote for. If there’s enough signal they’ll notice. Right now we’re just losing to feminists because they’re so filled with vitriol that they’ve made a giant anti-men, pro-women voting block Politicians care more about how people vote as groups than …
/r/MensRights09/04/24 10:42 PM
0

Exactly. He uses a facade of masculinity to hoodwink misunderstood kids on the internet. Toxic masculinity isn’t real masculinity it’s just pretending to be so.
/r/MensRights09/04/24 01:51 PM
4

You should take really bad every single time. Otherwise your choices become terrible or horrific. Like I said it’s a snowballing effect that just gets worse if you don’t act against it
/r/MensRights09/04/24 01:50 PM
1

Like I said, when feminists use it they use it incorrectly. That doesn’t mean no man has ever used the ideal of masculinity in a corrosive way. If someone is doing something bad for themselves and society and saying they’re doing it because “that’s what a man would do” then that’s toxic masculinity
/r/MensRights09/04/24 01:48 PM
9

Absolutely. That’s why we need to vote for the ones that do. Or vote third party and throw our votes away until something changes. As long as you’re actually voting the poly sci folks will figure out how to make you happy and get you to vote for their person instead. It’s not a perfect science but the larger the voting block, the more attention they get usually
/r/MensRights09/04/24 01:46 PM
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Vote third party to signal you’re protesting. Someone will figure out how to make your demographic happier and will find a way to bring topics you care about to the front stage. At the very least you’re keeping the oppression from getting worse. You have no idea how bad it would be if nobody on your demographic voted. It would be like painting a sign in your chest that says “enslave me, I can’t do anything about it”
/r/MensRights09/04/24 05:18 AM
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Not a feminist by any means. There are positive and negative ways to be masculine. If it’s toxic it’s toxic. I.e Andrew tate. That guy uses his “masculinity” to trick kids on the internet to go to hustle school so he can buy more prostitutes.
/r/MensRights09/04/24 02:25 AM
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Also bad because it’s causing a snowball effect. As men give up on politics, policies will become more exploitative. This is why we vote people. Even if your vote doesn’t change an election, demographic statistics control policy
/r/MensRights09/04/24 12:22 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with the term, the issue is with armchair psychologists that like to overapply catchy terms. Same thing with how people will pretend to know everything about gas-lighting and narcissism when it fits their argument
/r/MensRights08/04/24 10:02 PM
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They’ve switched tactics and started victim blaming. If you’re a lonely man you’re not part of an exploitative system of oppression, you’re just a smelly incel. Meanwhile I, a man with a girlfriend and several friends, haven’t felt this isolated and misunderstood in over a decade. But sure I’m the incel.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 07:40 PM
16

When women do worse in business and school it’s a systematic inequality that needs to be fixed. When men do worse in business and school it’s because women are naturally better and men should just be smarter. What’s so hard to get about that??
/r/MensRights08/04/24 07:18 PM
2

Read the exact same book and it’s spot on. No notes, everyone go read it. Pointed out some bad thought patterns I had never recognized in myself, and finally gave a name to all those off putting behaviors I see in people all the time
/r/MensRights08/04/24 12:19 AM
2

They’re going to do that no matter what. You have to win with logic and reason while women are allowed to shoot from the hip without consequences. Don’t bite, stay on topic, and collect hard evidence that supports your position. That’s the only way to beat them.
/r/MensRights07/04/24 09:52 PM
33

Somebody is trying to build an incredibly accurate peen image generator Doesn’t support the other model because there’s already plenty of that on the web. Honestly who uses this?? The ones you really have to look out for are often completely invisible. Edit: either that or someone is really horny
/r/MensRights07/04/24 05:47 PM
1

I thought so too but try it. For me at least I got basically the same results
/r/MensRights07/04/24 03:18 AM
2

Same thing there unfortunately. They respect your privacy slightly more but they censor results just as much as. Honestly don’t know an engine that doesn’t do it at this point which is even more horrifying
/r/MensRights07/04/24 03:09 AM
3

I agree that their mission is equality and protection for women, but the implementation seems to just make men second class citizens to women. This isn’t an “incel” argument it’s simple reason. If you make it harder for men to earn money, but don’t do anything to change how society values men, then men who started with money will be valued higher. It doesn’t matter if you see it as a “more fair” system or not, this is just the outcome. I have no issue with giving women a fair shot in the job mar…
/r/MensRights07/04/24 01:25 AM
1

The most ludicrous thing in all of feminism. They’re not going to stop until every female communication major is paid more than every man with a medical degree
/r/MensRights07/04/24 12:22 AM
5

The internet right now is in a total parallel reality for finding information about women’s violence. Seriously Google “men killed by women” and see what the top results are.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 09:51 PM
2

Woah there am I sensing that you’re a man that wants a strong sense of identity? Didn’t you realize that’s not something real men have incel? Being a man is strictly about the value you provide to others.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 09:48 PM
2

Violence against us is swept under the rug. You literally can’t find victims of woman to man violence on any search engine. Seriously, go Google “man killed by woman” and the first result will be “no close matches” and 90% of the results will be men killing women. It’s horrifying. This is what I hate most about all the feminists demanding a study for every minuscule point we try to make. You could lose your career by reporting it, and when it is reported the system buries it a mile deep.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 09:41 PM
5

Precisely. Because of English classes, college apps, and interviews it’s optimal for every man to learn to talk the talk. The more you turn on your gender and your childhood values the more you’re rewarded. And then from there it’s pretty easy and even beneficial to just accept it and put reality behind you. It’s only if you’re really dedicated to some principle that makes you hold on. A lot of it isn’t just trying to get laid or virtue signaling. Fully adopting the mind virus is a winning strat…
/r/MensRights06/04/24 07:22 PM
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By advocating for schools, jobs, and competitions to select women over equally and more qualified men. Also by encouraging women to enter the workforce. I think they should have every right to but it certainly magnifies the effect I described.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 07:03 AM
13

That’s true but then you run into issues where inflation eats your spending power. If the world is used to an average man and woman earning $100k each, if you earn 100 and your wife earns 80, you’re at a relative disadvantage. But in the future feminism wants the woman is the main earner. So if the world is used to her making 100k and you making 80k, then if you’re making 80 and your wife is making 60 you’re at a much larger disadvantage. The end result is just that if you start with money, you’…
/r/MensRights06/04/24 02:07 AM
2

This is a great analysis. And yes I fully agree. A quality argument should test which beliefs and supposed facts can bear weight and allows both people to come out better and stronger. I see many feminists more like marketers and salespeople than truly honorable debaters, especially when it’s online. They use a lot of dirty tactics but it wins them attention and influence, which snowballs to make more attention seekers using dirty tactics. So my stance is that you should always aim to have a wel…
/r/MensRights06/04/24 01:54 AM
2

Yeah you’re 100% right hahaha. But I think when they do drag you into a fight you gotta do your best because it influences the people lurking. I realized recently that it’s because they unwaveringly trust their instincts and honestly think that’s how people should debate. Many of them said it was literally impossible for them to use feminism immorally. Horrifying. And yes I’ve seen that debate hahaha it’s absolutely awesome, and part of what gave me this idea. I think if we have a system to defl…
/r/MensRights06/04/24 12:40 AM
2

I was thinking more about listing which logical fallacies are commonly used against men’s rights. Like an online dictionary almost so you can look something up and immediately have a response. It’s good to have a deep understanding of logical fallacies but when you’re getting brigaded by dozens of identical bad takes it might be better to have a quantity over quality approach. Otherwise you could be stuck wasting hours fighting pointless battles. I’ll have to check out The Destructivists for som…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 09:53 PM
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It’s not. That’s why we’re saying you shouldn’t be a feminist, especially if you’re just doing it to get them to like you
/r/MensRights05/04/24 02:00 PM
9

Why would men want to vote for a woman who makes our country look like an easy target and therefore make us more likely to die in a trench for them? You’re basically saying that because our society as a whole has to go to war, that the men who’ve voted maybe once deserve to die in droves? But not the women because…? And you acknowledged that wars are often done to protect the country. Do you know what they call countries without armies? Vassal states
/r/MensRights05/04/24 01:38 PM
1

I just had an interesting thought that more vulgarity and anti-PC behavior might actually be an emergent property of men’s rights spaces. Many tightly knit groups use coded languages to confuse outsiders, so it’s possible subconsciously men’s rights folks use vulgarity as a way to dissuade Feminists from perusing. Just a stray thought but you might find it interesting. As for identifying as a textbook feminist, I liked that you were upfront. However a lot of us, especially youngsters, may see yo…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 04:30 AM
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You make some very valid points. I’m sorry about all of the events you mentioned. I also dislike how hostile we can be sometimes, even though I sometimes am myself, but I’ve found sometimes it’s just good to have space where I can vent pent-up anger at the world without being flamed or banned. I know a lot of feminists view men as being able to say whatever they want, but especially if you’re in a liberal area it can be very hard to find spaces where it feels comfortable to just vent about how u…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 03:06 AM
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I full agree with you. I don’t really like identifying too much with my physical qualities because it feels limiting. Yes I’m physically a straight/white/man but if I want to act or think “gay” or “feminine” or adopt non-white perspectives I don’t want some ethos limiting me. At least to myself, I know most people in life will see me as a combination of my visible traits. But I suppose the qualities I like that I would associate with “masculinity” are intelligence, strength/health, and resilienc…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 08:38 PM
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I think they feel less likely to encourage you to do typical masculine stuff but just as likely to try to force you to conform to whatever ideal they have. My ex was extremely feminist and while we would often split meals, etc. she would use feminism as a way to force me to act and “think” the way she wanted. Not a financial donkey but still a donkey. I.e. learning how to be her surrogate therapist, learning to cook and clean the way she wants, only ever agree with her political perspectives, et…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 08:24 PM
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An example might be the “are you a feminist” argument. Once they start this argument the only outcomes are total submission, or getting called a bigot. We all know it goes something like this: You: “I’m not a feminist and I don’t believe in (x, y, z) because (a, b, c).” Fem: “do you support women’s equality?” You: “yes.” Fem: “then you’re a feminist!” You: “Sure.” Fem: “well if you’re a feminist and you support women’s equality, then you must belive (x, y, z) because that’s what equality is, don…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 07:51 PM
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And then when you argue with them they bark at you for irrefutable evidence before they’ll give you an inch of ground. Their strategy is flawless. Claim a ton of random made up things, and then brigade and exhaust anyone trying to inject even the smallest amount of dissent. It happens every. Single. Time.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 06:17 PM
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The craziest thing about feminists is I think for the average “foot soldier” it really is entirely subconscious, so this kind of social sabotage would work incredibly effectively. Feminists are like crusaders whose ideology has been weaponized to attack people they want to steal from. Most of them truly have no idea why they actually feel the way they do. But yes what we lack in subconscious psychic powers we have to beat with calm and collected logic. I think the only flaw is then a large fract…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 05:56 PM
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That’s what you don’t get. Deep down they really do see us as donkeys. It’s just so deep they might not even realize it. Their principles don’t mean anything, they’re just words to cudgel us and protect themselves from blame. Not all feminists are slave drivers at heart, but the movement as a whole enables or even encourages this kind of behavior.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 05:52 PM
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The issue with feminism is that most of them are 100% instinctive arguers. Even when they’re very educated and very astute it is impossible to get them to decouple from their personal perspective on an issue. So all men doesn’t mean anything, it just means a feminist wants to spit venom because her instincts are telling her to. Everything else is just her rationalizing how she feels out lout. They use complex verbiage and theory to dazzle and obscure their feelings, but they use their words like…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 05:39 PM
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Hate the movie but have to admit it was a marketting masterpiece Now suddenly after decades of “encouraging unattainable beauty standards to women” they’re seen as the epitome of the feminist ideal. At the same time they drove a giant wedge of controversy between their new demographic and everyone else so they’ll be isolated and more likely to comfort themselves with materialism and regression. The main plot was literally just encouraging women to be girly and not interact with others or the rea…
/r/MensRights04/04/24 01:58 PM
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Women like to say they’re more emotionally intelligent than us but will crash and burn if we don’t conform to their intuitions of our masculine emotions. You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve been screamed at for not letting them be right. They always paint us as angry, egotistical, brittle, etc. so it makes it so we literally cannot bring emotions into a conversation with them. Then they say we’re cold and distant. I’m really starting to think it’s the other way around.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 01:19 PM
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I have a feeling you may be happier if you learn how to be comfortable with lower standards. Once you break the seal you might find it wasn’t as important as you thought. Don’t lower your standards for someone else though.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 11:40 PM
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At least we recognize the issues we have. I think the secret weapon of a lot of feminist groups is their completely blind loyalty to their movement and will steamroll you if you try to point out how it can be hijacked. It’s so damaging every time either movement becomes twisted for self interested goals. It’s up to the masses to refuse to follow bad leaders and focus on building men and women up
/r/MensRights03/04/24 07:44 PM
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“Machiavellianism is a personality trait that involves manipulation, indifference to morality, and a lack of empathy. It's one of the three tenets of the Dark Triad, which also includes narcissism and psychopathy.” It’s an ultra self-interested way of thinking. It stems from Machiavelli’s magnum opus The Prince, which is ironically meant as a kind of satirical warning about how the ruling class in Italy controlled its people.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 05:04 AM
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Hell yeah man. We’re proud of you too.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 04:21 AM
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That’s what I dislike most about the modern view of “privilege” If you weren’t born in a cardboard box and raised dirt poor you’re just viewed as well-off and categorized in the same way as Elon Musk’s kid. And if you’re white that means you had a stable caring household that did a perfect job of making you a functional adult with many friends. And if you’re a guy you probably bang women all day and never experienced doubt. And if you’re a woman you probably get chased to work every day by a pac…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 04:16 AM
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Don’t worry dude we all do. Honestly it’s what a lot of radical feminists and other Machiavellian types want. They want us to accept our role as “evil men” so they can continue to get funding and support. The secret weapon of all men is our resilience. Don’t let them win. Support men (and women) when you can.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 08:19 PM
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Like I said in my argument, I agree that AA has negative consequences for everyone affected by it. However I would need some really convincing evidence to believe it doesn’t still overwhelmingly favor women. Like I said I think the exact amount changes based on how liberal the school is, but even at my fairly conservative school the women within the same majors were noticeably more dull. This was a few years ago so maybe it’s fully reversed but I would be shocked to learn that. And AA aside ther…
/r/MensRights02/04/24 07:00 PM
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I’m sorry to hear about that. The bad stories never get enough attention in my eyes. I hope you’re doing well.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 05:45 PM
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I’m not a conservative by any means but I do agree with this perspective. Any ranking hierarchy besides merit destroys merit based societies. And also as a result, increases friction between groups in a lot of different ways
/r/MensRights02/04/24 05:36 PM
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I fully agree, although for me I’m personally attracted to friends and romantic partners that are smart, hardworking, and passionate about something in addition to those traits. What I’m saying is that for those qualities at least, if a woman is just as smart and hardworking as me, she’ll probably be my boss. Of course there are plenty of girls that are loving and supportive and all of that, it just makes me sad that it’s so hard to find a girl that’s been through the same struggles I have (eith…
/r/MensRights02/04/24 05:28 PM
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Yeah completely true. My issue is mostly that women only see knives sharper than them I guess. Plenty of women ball out and perform really well, but they’ll always be surrounded by people that tried harder because they’re always given a leg up. But also if your goal is just to achieve a minimum level of external achievement then yes it’s definitely easier to coast as a girl.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 04:29 PM
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Yeah it’s so hypocritical. I’ve noticed almost all women keep a very detailed list of transgressions committed against them. The joke can be anything but as soon as it’s said they’ll hold onto it forever and use it for ammunition anytime it’s remotely relevant
/r/MensRights02/04/24 04:23 PM
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Forcing your beliefs on others is worse. Enjoy your draconian life.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 04:03 PM
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A relatively complex lump of cells then? Is that better? It can represent anything you want it to, it’s your life not mine. And yes you’re 100% right that there’s a very reasonable argument to dehumanize a newborn. I’m just saying if you actually try to make that argument about your own newborn my inexpert opinion is that there may be something neurologically wrong with you. However from an outside perspective I don’t really see an issue. I just told you where I’d draw that line. When It comes o…
/r/MensRights02/04/24 03:30 PM
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Yeah I see it the same way as any privilege. It’s fine if you own up to it but so many people love to do mental gymnastics to convince others their affluence/gender/power didn’t do anything to help them. We all get help in some way or another, but I’ve noticed the more help you get the less seriously you take your achievements. It tends to make you less serious which is another thing I’ve noticed in the women around me. They just don’t realize how hard the people around them have worked compared…
/r/MensRights02/04/24 03:01 PM
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You lost me at ontological. I realize development is a gradient. That’s what I’m arguing as well. For me the rule of thumb is that if the mother believes she can provide a good and loving upbringing to the embryo then she shouldn’t kill it. Otherwise there’s no point of ruining a good childhood (at an unspecified later date) just to protect a lump of cells that don’t have any real memories or value. 99% of the time It’s not like it’s the mother’s last chance anyway. So the choice should be up to…
/r/MensRights02/04/24 02:55 PM
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Did you never do any kind of animal testing? I did and I’ve definitely had to kill things I feel much guiltier about than a fetus. If you really care about the sanctity of life stop taking medications and stop using makeup. I’m saying if you want to be successful in biology you have to be careful what you anthropomorphize. The “essence” of a baby is not the same thing as a baby no matter how much it may look like one.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 02:11 PM
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The other part of the ruling class wants as many babies as possible so they can decrease the cost of labor.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 01:52 PM
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You need to pay more attention to how fetuses develop. They may look like a person but they ain’t a person. Especially if you study bio related STEM in college you’ll learn how to get over archaic instincts like that real fast
/r/MensRights02/04/24 01:51 PM
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In the US this isn’t that important but in most of Asia women get killed quite often I don’t think banning abortion is the best way to handle it though. It doesn’t stop a lot of it.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 01:47 PM
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It isn’t about feminism it’s about selling Barbie dolls
/r/MensRights02/04/24 01:59 AM
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The will to power. Women across the world see an essentially ready-built strategy to gain a better position in life that also tacitly absolves them of any wrongdoing to half the people they meet.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 12:58 AM
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Oh yeah don’t get me wrong I definitely see the US as a flawed democracy. Kind of a halfway point between a democracy and a plutocracy in my eyes
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:58 PM
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I prefer to rely on traditional definitions that aren’t controlled by private entities, so I just see a democracy as anything where the people equally control the government. Although I agree the modern version of most democracies has separation of government and a fairly similar sense of unalienable rights. That seems like more of a temporary definition though in the grand scheme of things
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:22 PM
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The 13th amendment: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” Many prison systems still use involuntary labor as a punishment which is part of the reason why the US has so many slaves… I mean prisoners. Nothing about slavery is inherently undemocratic, it’s just illegal in most democracies. A true democracy would make slavery lega…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 10:05 PM
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Well actually under certain conditions it’s still completely legal to enslave people so no Also we were a democracy when slavery was fully legal so double no The ruling class doesn’t directly own your children but they certainly have a decent amount of control over their environment and how they’re brought up
/r/MensRights01/04/24 09:51 PM
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Oh man there’s a lot going on here. I agree with your fundamental argument that abortion rights are good for non-ruling class men (and women) but I think that black pill tangent was a bit much. We live in a world that’s much more chaotic than most people realize, but you can still choose a few things you care about and learn how to protect them for as long as you can. All of this talk about nobody truly owning or controlling anything is almost true but a bit of a pointless and depressing thing t…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 09:50 PM
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I have no idea, it’s more of a thought experiment. I’ve just noticed whenever you bring this subject up to a feminist instead of speculating or contributing to a solution they just cut to the end and say the system wasn’t built that way. It’s just ironic because they expect the system to bend over backwards to support them but as soon as it comes to supporting men, it’s just “not how the system works” I don’t necessarily support any of that interference either. I strongly believe any selection f…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 06:36 PM
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When I was in school, especially English and soft sciences, my teachers would often penalize me for having the wrong opinion on topics. They say they don’t care but they do. I think a lot of our society views feminine writing and thought processes as “correct” so much of what may come naturally to girls takes a lot more effort for boys to learn. Socially men are strongly encouraged to ignore rules or to treat school as a joke. I was often bullied for caring about homework and getting good grades…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 05:52 PM
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Mostly treat them the same way you would your mother, even if they’re the same age or younger. Just let them be right and do what has to be done once they’ve left you alone. Learn to take advantage of all those evil patriarchal systems and boys clubs. Women are given a massive advantage for hiring and will absolutely do the same to you. But at the same time learn to convince people you’re painfully feminine when it makes you fit in more. If you work with a lot of women dress well and take care o…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 04:48 PM
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Women aren’t as incentivized to work harder for more money so we need to pay them more since otherwise they wouldn’t earn it themselves. Also only they should be allowed to take a 12 month break and come back and still be paid as much as everyone around them that had their souls drained for an extra year. Otherwise we’ll compare a bunch of meaningless statistics with as many confounding variables as possible and draw whichever conclusion makes us seem the best.
/r/MensRights01/04/24 03:57 PM
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It’s used by men and women but yes the concept of “real men” is just a tool for hegemonic control
/r/MensRights01/04/24 01:40 PM
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I’d say it’s closer to neoliberal than conservative. Business interests in the US warp both sides to accommodate big corporations. Just because something is exploitative doesn’t really make it conservatives anymore Just like how taking away abortion rights looks like a Christian thing at face value but is more about creating more workers and keeping them in tighter financial chains But I do agree that it’s funny that the only things in feminism that have never been questioned are the ideals that…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 07:31 PM
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Trump is pretty insane but I agree I hate how there are only certain topics you’re allowed to criticize
/r/MensRights31/03/24 06:36 PM
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The study may have been discredited but this still rings true to me based on personal experience. I think my null hypothesis would be that there is a difference and it’s up to science to convince me otherwise
/r/MensRights31/03/24 06:25 PM
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AC standards do need to be updated IMO. It’s true that temperature and humidity settings are often based on only the preferences of middle-aged men in the 60s and haven’t been updated since. The composition of offices has changed a lot so it’s something that would be reasonable to review and update. Not just for women but for everyone
/r/MensRights31/03/24 06:23 PM
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It’s a really common outcome for political movements that win and get what they want. After that the people who control the movement need to find increasingly bizarre, combative, and unwinnable issues to be upset over or risk losing relevance. Many times this just causes the movement to fade as supporters lose their fire, but feminism sort of hit a goldmine because so much of womanhood in the west revolves around using victimization to avoid responsibility. This is why I have such a big issue wi…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 06:18 PM
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The issue is that all the money goes to the biased ones, so being biased is a more important criteria for success than being smart
/r/MensRights31/03/24 12:03 AM
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It’s not her fault there’s just a very popular and militaristic ideology that’s designed to come up with talking points like that. This is where all that money for feminist think tanks goes There’s just a fundamental disagreement about what can be considered “systematic discrimination.” A lot of extremist liberals believe that it is impossible to wrongly discriminate against a member of the “empowered” identify even if they don’t have any power at all. Just being in the same demographic as someo…
/r/MensRights30/03/24 11:26 PM
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Meanwhile when Women say they never want to interact with another man again they get praised for dismantling the patriarchy
/r/MensRights30/03/24 11:20 PM
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This is why so many people care so much about abortion rights. If you can’t get people to want to have kids, just force them to. Then create a generation of broken families that need to seek comfort in consumerism
/r/MensRights27/03/24 06:42 PM
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Tell me you have a membership at planet fitness without telling me you have a membership at planet fitness But honestly I think it’s just a politeness thing. Today’s society doesn’t reward militaristic or overly confident behavior from men in mixed company
/r/MensRights27/03/24 03:47 PM
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Again I’m comparing this to other forms of cancer which are also quite deadly. The 5 year survival rate in the US for skin cancer is 95%. the 5 year survival rate for lung cancer is… 23% Many people suffering from both illnesses die and are horribly injured while being cured, but relatively speaking lung cancer is drastically worse And also there is a a chance that when melanoma is caught early enough, there are no major consequences. Lung cancer almost always requires several invasive procedure…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 02:40 PM
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And even if a rich women marries a broke guy, she’s likely to view her wealth as only hers. And will likely have no respect for you if you don’t make more than her
/r/MensRights27/03/24 01:41 PM
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In my experience as an engineer nearly all corporate roles are filled with women who do very little work (some are great, but overall rarely as good as the men). Then all the actual work is assigned to contractors who have fewer benefits. Lo and behold most of those contractors are men because women only want equality for the nice do nothing jobs with high pay So from my experience the roles are not still there. All the money and all the benefits go to unqualified women, and then the companies e…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 01:29 PM
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Online is one thing but many of the people you interact with in day to day life are extremely pro feminism. For instance I have many female friends but if any politically charged topic comes up I usually can’t express a differing opinion from them without being labeled a sexist, racist, etc. and starting a giant fight (which hurts because I see myself as a fairly progressive person, just with some different views on certain topics) Same thing with my job. Can’t disagree with the boss if I want t…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 05:06 PM
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And then the feminists will say that it was the men and the patriarchy who decided to restart the draft so really we were oppressing them when we died for them
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:42 PM
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Exactly. Like everything with male privilege it was true until about 20 years ago when we decided men have gone out of fashion , and now the trend has completely reversed Nobody likes to talk about the fact that women are drastically more likely to visit the doctor because they’re allowed by society to take injuries seriously Also women live much longer than men anyway even with the medical disparity so something is clearly off
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:13 PM
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It’s also just inherently easy to treat (for cancer). There’s nothing that vital about mammary tissue so the surgeons can just open you up and keep cutting until the tumor is gone. Anything outside of the rib cage is also much easier to access by a variety of treatments For other tumors like lung, pancreas, liver, it requires a more invasive surgery that will most likely damage vital organs, so you can’t operate on them as often or as easily.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:10 PM
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It’s like funding research for skin cancer over lung cancer. Lots of people get skin cancer but it usually doesn’t kill you. You just cut it out and they’re fine. Then you have to stop tanning and go to the doc every few years but it’s more or less harmless after that Lung cancer however is a completely different story. That’ll ruin your life and you’re still not guaranteed to survive.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:07 PM
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It’s the will to power broh. There are power hungry bullies masquerading in every ethical topic. People just like being powerful, and feminism is one such framework that allows women to very easily control and punish men. And by proxy this makes women weaker and more reliant on feminist thought leaders That’s why feminism has to keep finding ways for women to be unequal in order to thrive. It’s not about changing the world it’s about letting powerful people control others.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:04 PM
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I’m extremely liberal. I just think in many ways feminism has already won and is now on the offensive. The democratic parts has completely abandoned white people and men and just relies on making us guilty to get our votes. I think it’s time we stop dividing people based on identity and focus on actual issues like wealth disparity and the environment
/r/MensRights26/03/24 01:56 PM
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Being judged for something isn’t inherently anyone’s fault, it’s just what happens when someone else judges you. What I’m saying is that many men share a view of the world that can’t be discussed with a lot of people, so they have to develop a socially correct worldview in order to interact with people. What you’re recommending is that men live true to their beliefs and just accept a life of rejection, which nobody wants to do because it means giving up lots of family, friends, job prospects, et…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 01:28 PM
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The reason people like and respect “bad boys” is because they understand how to control the environment to get what they want. Ergo they’re the kind of person that is valuable to have as a friend. You have to start learning how your appearance, tone of voice, posture, etc. effect people. Girls generally just want someone that makes them feel happy and safe so it’s comforting to have a partner that’s confident, intelligent, and socially astute. Those are the parts of the “bad boy” persona you sho…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 03:44 AM
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Being socially accepted is one of the most important skills you can have in life. It controls who you can date, what jobs/promotions you can get, how much your friends like you, etc. And your own brain is very good at punishing you when people judge you. So yeah it would be nice if people could just brush those things off but not everyone wants to be a monk. Sometimes being judged just feels unfair.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:49 AM
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Feminism as a philosophy does not hate men, just as feminism does not hate footstools or coatracks. It’s the same as every other self-centered ethos. They just want what’s best for themselves and don’t care what happens to other people, but need a complex set of rules to make it seem like it’s also morally correct
/r/MensRights26/03/24 12:48 AM
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There still is a wage gap, but it’s so small that it’s easily accounted for by men being conditioned from birth to be robots that make money. No amount of affirmative action will be able to overcome the deeply ingrained since of self-worth tied to money that most men are forced by society to adopt.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 12:44 AM
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I’m from the US but my girlfriend is from Chennai so most of this is just secondhand from her. She’s always told me they have much stronger gender roles than the US. Sort of like the US in the 80s/90s She’s been in the states for most of her life though so this could be old information as well. I trust your info more if you’re there right now lol In the US especially among Gen Z There is a strong trend to get rid of gender roles. Personally I find no issue with that as long as both sides feel th…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 12:08 AM
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Awesome project. The whole point of those presentation is to build confidence and there’s no better way to do that then to pick an unpopular topic. I did a presentation in college about gun control in a politically mixed class. Never felt so nervous but now I know nothing will ever be as challenging as that Just don’t do that kind of thing when the grade matters. You’ll be graded harshly so just say the bland, popular thing that your teacher agrees with, get your A and move on with your life
/r/MensRights25/03/24 11:26 PM
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No no no you don’t get it we changed the definition of the word to explicitly not cover this occurrence And by the way you have to define the system as the one that makes us right. There are no other systems beside that one
/r/MensRights25/03/24 11:22 PM
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This is why banning the draft is a complete joke. When invading armies are attacking your home do you really think a nation will be able to stick to their guns and say “but what about the gender equality??” No. When there’s a need for troops the men will always be drafted first because we’re culturally encouraged to be expendable and to die for our countries, and women are not But then the feminist will say “but we really gave it our darndest effort to get rid of the draft, so really it’s the me…
/r/MensRights25/03/24 11:19 PM
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Many women have an infinite capacity to fight and argue. You don’t have to apologize but if you don’t want to fight for weeks until they run out of energy sometimes you just gotta take it on the chin
/r/MensRights25/03/24 11:11 PM
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I think it’s fair to say that, culturally speaking, men have an advantage on getting raises because our entire life revolves around how much we make. Men are taught (by men and women alike) that a man without money is worthless so that naturally encourages them to seek opportunities to be paid more. But I see a major disconnect in how that should be fixed. I think instead of political action, we just need to foster a culture that makes it acceptable for men and women to do whatever job makes the…
/r/MensRights25/03/24 11:00 PM
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Culturally most women are just brought up to overshare everything with their friends. Part of the reason why therapy is so popular for women is because they aren’t trained to process their emotions themselves and need to have group discussions to work things out. For instance I’ve started realizing my girlfriend almost requires a daily convo to summarize her day because she doesn’t know how to fully handle them without a discussion. (at least compared to men, who are taught to process basically …
/r/MensRights25/03/24 10:45 PM
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India as a whole is very different from the Middle East. Just ask any older Indian what they think of Pakistan… or any Indian Hindu what they think of Muslims. 4/5 times you’re going to hear something wild. But also things are different there. I think the idea of women’s equality doesn’t exist as much as it does here. There are certainly traditional gender roles which support and detract from both men and women in different ways
/r/MensRights25/03/24 10:01 PM
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Because you are the one claiming that feminism supports equality for both men and women, but the feminist cause has done nothing to ensure that this sexist system is amended to include both men and women. If feminism truly supports men as much as women, there should be riots in the street forcing the government to add women to the draft. Or discussions and lobbying money. Or any kind of support whatsoever.
/r/MensRights25/03/24 09:52 PM
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Discussing does not mean that it exists. Things like that tend to fizzle out
/r/MensRights25/03/24 09:49 PM
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Yeah you’re totally right. The issue is that like all political fields, the experts know the best way to keep getting a paycheck is to never actually solve the issue. This is why I think a lot of feminists need to learn how to push back against a lot of the currently “accepted” opinions. Because many creators of feminist channels have no desire to actually fix gender issues because it would mean ruining their source of wealth and power. Just like for every other social issue, the people at the t…
/r/MensRights25/03/24 09:27 PM
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Women love to say they want an emotionally in touch man until they see actual emotions. Then they just pivot and say that man gave them the ick and move on without a single iota of guilt I swear if you just do the opposite of whatever girl says they want most relationships would be so much more stable.
/r/MensRights25/03/24 08:21 PM
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Many studies are showing that women on average have better outcomes in education than men. This is a verifiable fact (within the scope of the study of course) but whenever someone tries to have a serious discussion about how to help men get the resources they need to succeed, feminists will typically say that men don’t deserve help and that we need to keep creating systems that provide assistance to only women to amplify this inequality. When men express their opinions that it feels unfair that …
/r/MensRights25/03/24 07:57 PM
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When I was in college I tried to join our student government’s department for feminism. The director laughed at me and told me they weren’t interested in a man’s opinion about feminism. You all repeat that it’s about “equality for men and women” but your actions show that feminists are only interested in their own perspective for what “equality” looks like, and their visions often feature policies that heavily favor women over men
/r/MensRights25/03/24 07:49 PM
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For some yes, but by and large most feminists will laugh you out of a room if you mention any inequality that favors women over men. It’s only about equality when balancing things makes things better for women It’s like they want you to think that men are dominating in literally every measurable statistic and can’t accept that women are actually doing better in some ways. I’ve only met a few women in my life that acknowledge that women have actually begun doing better in education because of all…
/r/MensRights25/03/24 07:44 PM
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In a way sometimes it’s validating to hear people say it out loud instead of behind closed doors
/r/MensRights25/03/24 03:59 AM
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That’s kinda what Musk is doing these days over at X. It’s all about fanning the fire though never making any real progress
/r/MensRights25/03/24 03:56 AM
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My girlfriend called me an incel the other day lol it truly has lost all meaning
/r/MensRights24/03/24 07:57 PM
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I think women are just generally more comfortable expressing their fantasies and/or really believing they’re realistic. I would love to have a 10/10 supermodel wife who earns millions of dollars and is completely loyal to me, and also knows how to fix her own car and kill spiders. However I also have the self awareness to realize that she’d have no interest in me whatsoever.
/r/MensRights24/03/24 12:18 AM
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Not genetics. There’s a theory that’s interested me for awhile that says testosterone doesn’t lead to aggression but instead causes people to react more strongly to status hierarchies. So it’s really genetics causing cultural values to become enhanced. Western culture values men that are aggressive and disagreeable so that’s what they do. They also have traditionally vertical status hierarchies so men constantly put each-other down to elevate themselves If western culture changed to establish hi…
/r/MensRights19/02/24 06:06 PM
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Lacrosse is a very privileged sport. To be competitive you have to have been born with a stick and gone to camps every summer several years in a row. Your teammates and opponents also may have known each other personally for years which makes it easier for them to get good opportunities because you never want to lay-out your best friend and you always want to give him the ball. And since the equipment is niche and costs so much it’s hard to passively gain the skill set like you could with other …
/r/MensRights15/02/24 02:04 PM
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It’s the will to power at work. People just know they can be greedy and people will support it so why wouldn’t they be?
/r/MensRights14/02/24 09:43 PM
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Not directly no, but when I was laid off early last year only men got the axe. We’re entering a really weird phase in my industry where all the full time employees are women who increasingly contract out all the work to firms that don’t care about being PC.
/r/MensRights14/02/24 09:10 PM
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What I’m saying is neither should make the other uncomfortable. That’s the major disconnect that’s causing so much strife today. Men are expected to increasingly “respect” women, and women are doing less in return. This is why it feels so unfair, and why there is increasing tension between the two populations.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 09:43 PM
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I’m recalling a study that found the worst performing African American students (by class rank) were more likely to be admitted to Harvard than the best performing Asian students, so it’s not really breadcrumbs. In reality it’s just preference for upper class members who have all the same privileges, but also have the right skin color. It really messed with my worldview when I was in school because I knew with a decent degree of confidence that if someone with minority status worked equally as h…
/r/MensRights07/12/23 07:06 PM
2

In my opinion this is more of a soft advantage compared to a very hard female advantage. If you know how to leverage the boys club well it can be really valuable, but all girls have an instant baseline advantage for hiring, recognition, and promotions. If you’re a guy that doesn’t like golf and schmoozing you’re out of luck.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 06:57 PM
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I have some slightly radical opinions on why it actually happens. It’s really all about wealth extraction. In the past, men were responsible for making and saving all the money. This is a good system for the working class because one person will work intensely until they’ve created a life for themselves, and then stop working. I think it actually started working too well, which is partially why feminism is supported by so many large corporations today. Feminine culture does not incentivize savin…
/r/MensRights07/12/23 06:38 PM
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Yeah man I’d be completely fine with a system where women do all the hard stuff and I can just sit back and work on my car and play rugby. Third wave feminism is basically just deconstructing masculinity to take out all the perks of doing the hard stuff while still making sure we’re all conditioned and socially pressured to want/need to do the hard stuff.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 06:30 PM
1

Not being oppressed if your race is the oppressors means it’s ok to discriminate against Asians in San Francisco, who according to the census are the most common race in the city. I particularly hate that definition because of how nonsensical it is. People just want to hate white men and will make whatever definitions that best allow them to do that.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 06:22 PM
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I think respecting women is a generally good thing that basically means men should pay attention to the difference in temperaments between themselves and women. No Oklahoma drills, try not to make them uncomfortable, etc. I don’t like how it’s being coopted to basically say that men should be second class citizens to women though. Men should respect women, and women should respect men, it’s not a one way street.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 06:17 PM
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I don’t trust any accolades or awards programs past about 2014. No matter where you look (media, politics, even my own company) they’ve become completely politicized and therefore useless. But honesty why would they not do that? Women on average read more books and spend more money on things with accolades, so it makes sense to shift the purpose of the awards to fit business interests.
/r/MensRights07/12/23 06:11 PM
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